#503 - Dylan Scott on Manifesting His Career at 10 Years Old + Not Getting to Play or Present at Award Shows + How He Met His Wife When They Were Kids + Growing up Next to Lainey Wilson

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Speaker 1: I mean after my Girl, I just had my first song. I mean, I'm starting my life really and I have a number one song. The money's going up a little bit, the shows are good.

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Speaker 2: Everything guarantees are getting bigger on them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like everything's great. Like I'm supporting my family doing music now.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to lose.

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Speaker 3: That episode fiveh three with Dylan Scott. Dylan has five number one songs. He is that's my Girl on the pastor seat. He has Nobody, Nobody, Nobody, Nobody, Nobody, Nobody.

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Speaker 2: I think there's more words than that, but I love that song.

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Speaker 3: I really feel like Dylan Scott is, i will say, undervalued by the people that really don't matter, which is the industry. We talk about that, so I'm gonna I'm gonna save that for the podcast, but I'm not even gonna act like that. Dylan Scott and I are like great personal friends because we're not. We've worked together a couple times and done show stuff, and I really like him. But it's one of those stories. I would compare it to parm Lee, where so much success on such a level, but for some reason, Nope, I'm not gonna do that here. What did I just say I'm not gonna do that here, because we do that there now. His current song, this Town's Been Too Good to Us, which is probably number one everybody's point. We recorded this like the day before the chart came out. He had a number one earlier a couple months ago with Boys Back Home with Dylan Marlowe. He's currently the fourth most played artist a country radio so far this year. Born in Louisiana, moved to Nashville. He's a teenager. He talks about his influences. It's a fitness fanatic. I would say, I mean he's ripped. I really like him, I really like his story, and I really hope that light gets shined on him a little more. Ann you'll hear why so here he is episode five three. Follow him on Instagram at Dylan Scott Country d y La n Scott Country. Here we Go with Dylan Scott without giving any specific details, how far do you.

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Speaker 2: Live from here? I lived forty five minutes. Oh you're out of town huh oh yeah, purposefully. I used to live downtown. Oh so you went from downtown.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking like three blocks off Broadway downtown When I first moved here for a couple of years.

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Speaker 3: Why why'd you live downtown because you wanted to do the Nashville.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to That's what I thought, experience it, you know, which I was way too young to even like go do anything.

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Speaker 2: But how old were you? I was nineteen when I moved to town. So I had a place downtown.

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Speaker 3: It was like Church and Fourth Okay, so it was like two blocks off of Broadway.

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Speaker 2: Bought the top.

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Speaker 3: It was when I first started to make money, So I always wanted to live downtown. Yeah, like the dream was like live downtown and like be in it. I was touring so much like doing stand up and so we went and looked at this place.

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Speaker 2: Did you live in a condo? It was, but it was like a high rise condo. That was the dream.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't I rise, No, see mine was like a sixth Mine wasn't high rise either, but it was like a.

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Speaker 2: Mid to low raise, but it was like six stories. Yeah. I was on the third floor of like a four story similar.

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Speaker 3: It was nice and so we uh, I bought it, and I remember going to look for it and look at it and they were like, oh, look out, it's great because it was right over Printer's alley, like you look down Printer's Alley's right there, and I don't even go out. I just thought it'd be like the romantic idea of living near downtown. Yeah, and so looked at it, loved it, bought it.

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Speaker 2: Significant for me, a significant purchase for me.

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Speaker 3: And I remember the first time that I was home at night, because I wasn't home on weekends a lot because I would just be on the road. I was like, oh my god, I never toured to look at this place in the evening on a weekend.

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Speaker 2: The music, dude, it was a disaster. Had a train you did right outside of the window. What time would it run?

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Speaker 1: Oh, just random times like middle of the night or early morning.

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Speaker 2: I kind of got used to it, yeah after a while.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I lived downtown and then moved over like off of West End, and then moved out of town right before I got married. My wife and I did long distance like six years.

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Speaker 2: Wow. So we bought this little high or we rented this little house and then we were going to.

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Speaker 1: Buy a house or we had no kids yet, and I was like, let's just let's go back downtown.

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Speaker 2: Because she never got to experience that. Where'd she moved from what state, Louisiana. We're from the same town. We grew up ten minutes support, got it. So you did long distance.

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Speaker 3: But did you have some sort of relationship even just knowing each other from back.

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Speaker 2: In the day as far as lie, did you know where before you moved here? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we started dating. It was fifteen.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so you moved here and she stayed back. Yes, So you didn't meet long distance? No? No, no, yeah, yeah we met.

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Speaker 1: We met in seventh grade, never talked to each other, eighth grade, never talked to each other, went to two separate high schools, and then our sophomore year.

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Speaker 2: Just got that.

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Speaker 3: That long distance makes sense. Yeah, it wasn't like you met her on the road and oh yeah it worked out with a girl in Michigan.

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Speaker 1: No, okay, no, no, no, yeah, it was kind of the deal, like we knew that's what was going to happen.

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Speaker 2: And then did she not want to move downtown? No, she wanted to.

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Speaker 1: We were looking at places, and then as soon as we were about to, like, all right, let's let's go downtown for like a year or so, let you experience it, she found out she was pregnant. With our first Beckett and Live, I said, we're not doing that, and I'm so glad we didn't, because I mean, I was over it.

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Speaker 2: Really.

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Speaker 1: I just kind of wanted to do it for her, what her experience it. But yeah, it worked out. You have land, I do now.

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Speaker 2: That was the dream.

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Speaker 3: Do you take care of your own land or do you take care of but a little bit of your own land and then the rest either just lives and it's you don't have to take care of r somebody else does.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I mean right now, it's look, we bought this property and I rented an excavator and a dozer and off road truck and basically developed it with a buddy of mine, Like spent every day for almost a year when I wasn't on the roads, some trees over and burning and making ponds and house paths and all that stuff. So I mean, I do take care of my property. I remember when we bought our first house, I was the house we're still in right now. I was so excited to mow my yard. I love doing yard work, and I bought this John Deere zero turn. I was so proud of it, and then never even got to use it. Because I was going so much and the grass would get so high, so I had to hire somebody, which made me feel less of a man. But at least my yard guy he's a buddy of mine.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: He came to my show this past weekend and brought his girlfriend and they hung out on the bus and stuff. But my wife had a garage cell shortly after why she had a garage sell. I have no idea, and she's like, do you want to get rid of your lawnmower. I was like, I don't want to, but I probably should because I'm never going to use it again. I mean, I got the guy now and I don't have time. And guy pulls up. He's like, what do you want for the lawnmower. She's like, I don't know. Thousand dollars. He's like, I'll be right back for four thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: It was only like it was only like three months old.

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Speaker 3: So she didn't talk to you about what probably not on it. No, that's funny, yeah, and a little bit that's on you.

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Speaker 2: You know she's doing a groad soe, well it was kind of random. Well, no, I didn't know the lawnmower was going to go.

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Speaker 1: She texts me, Hey, would you want to sell your lawnmower? I just said, yeah, that's fine, we can probably do that.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to use it.

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Speaker 1: And before we could even get into it, I guess she was right there next to the guy he was going She texted.

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Speaker 2: You why he was there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we have a few acres behind here that we don't have to keep up with. Like that's the purpose of it, right, Yeah. Do you have any jobs where you were excavating? Did you learn that on the fly?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, on the fly.

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Speaker 1: So one of my best friends is from Louisiana and Southwesia and his dad on a huge land development company, and uh, he pretty much taught me everything. I mean, I've done some stuff on like a little small skid steer, but we're talking like huge excavator track. Oh, big dozer D six. I mean it's a big deal. I was like, all right, I got this on my help. He's like, man, it's not that easy. But I picked it up pretty quick. I feel like I could. I feel like I could go do some work if I needed to.

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Speaker 2: Do you have any jobs while you were here that weren't music related? No? Not. Since I moved to Nashville.

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Speaker 3: How did you make money? Did you get a publishing deal?

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Speaker 2: Quick?

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Speaker 1: Got a publishing deal? Wasn't enough money to really survive? So how to go in and negotiate some stuff to make a little extra more money?

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Speaker 2: But I just had to hit the road.

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Speaker 3: That sounds like prostitution whatever that means, Like, it wasn't enough to negotia more.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, basically, so I was like, hey, it's not to live on.

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Speaker 1: So can we you know, we can redo some stuff on the contract that's better for y'all and worse for me if I can get a little more and more money up front, which bit me in the long run a little bit, but hey, helped you get through that time, helped me get through it in this part of business.

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Speaker 2: So you moved here at nineteen, Yeah, yeah, you drive up with a bunch of stuff.

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Speaker 1: I mean no, not really, I got stuff when I got here. I mean luckily my parents were awesome and they didn't have my I grew up in just the record, we're middle class family. You know, my dad went to work every day, and I mean my mom scratching pennies out of the ash tray of the car just to get sonic cheeseburger on the you know, a regular day. But they helped me get some stuff from my apartment and then it was kind of on me from there. I remember calling my dad though, one day, and my dad put me to work.

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Speaker 2: When I was I was fifteen years old, I was.

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Speaker 1: Cleaning boat carborators and mowing the grass at a marine place.

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Speaker 2: I worked at a marina forever dude.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, people think that I didn't have the good job, like to meet the girls.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't that. I wasn't like the doc boy. Yeah, yeah, no, I was. You were. I was a grease boy. Yeah, that's what I was. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Me and I worked at a golf course too, And I wasn't the guy that did the golf carts.

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Speaker 2: I was the one that was weed eating. You didn't get the cool stuff.

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Speaker 3: I didn't have a rich dad that was a member of the country club. And so as you can tell, I'm still resentful.

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Speaker 2: So you worked for your dad?

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Speaker 1: Well, my dad no, he just found he had a buddy at worked there and asked him if I could work. I try to get a job at walm which I had to be sixteen, I guess at that time. But when did that and I mean, I've been paying for my stuff ever since. So to call my dad and ask him, like, Dad, I'm I'm out of money, like I got bills and stuff, was like that was a big deal for me.

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Speaker 2: And I remember the truck.

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Speaker 1: I was driving at the time was a It was an F one fifty, like an early two thousands model that I went and bought and I was paying the note on it. But what I didn't know was my granddad, his dad bought it and so it was paid for I didn't know. So every month I was making a payment for my truck, I was just it was just going to a savings account. And so my dad goes, well, I figured this day would come blah blah blah, and he told me about it, and it's like I had several thousands of dollars that helped me get through that as well. So pretty cool. I thought that was one of the coolest things.

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Speaker 3: Had I gave me chills a little bit like that's love. Yeah, years in advance, looking out for a time that he knew you would probably need it, but you were getting what you needed by earning it.

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Speaker 2: At the same time, I didn't know was still paying the.

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Speaker 3: No earning responsibility. Yeah, learning how to be disciplined. Yeah, that's a good one. What they think about you doing music.

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Speaker 1: So my dad did music in what capacity, moved to town, moved to Nashville in his early twenties to pursue a you know, a country music singer whole deal, you know, and slept on people's couches and did the whole thing. And you know, it's just a tough business, you know, my dad. I mean, I've heard old stuff that my dad's recorded and whatnot. My dad was a great singer.

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Speaker 2: Sounded like you deep boys, not as deep.

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Speaker 1: But just a great singer. Just a real nice, rich voice and it was on pitch and it was great. I've seen old videos and performing on stage. I was like, dang, dad had it.

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Speaker 2: You know. It was really cool.

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Speaker 1: But ended up playing on the road with older guys like Freddie Fender back in.

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Speaker 2: The day, wasted days and wasted So.

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Speaker 1: Did that for a while, and man just gave it all up when he met my mom and moved back home and started doing regular blue collar work. My mom had two kids prior, and they were you know, five, six, seven years old, so he had to go to work immediately.

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Speaker 2: How do you meet your mom? Uh, just through some friends.

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Speaker 1: So they're from she's from Louisiana as well, same little place, little town over and just mutual friends put them together on a blind date and was together ever since.

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Speaker 2: What's your hometown like now or then?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 2: Now it's run down, it's run down pretty good. How many peoples are assigned? That says pop?

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Speaker 1: I know there used to be like maybe like eleven thousand in the town. But we had a we had a paper mill, International paper company.

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Speaker 2: We had a saw mill.

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Speaker 3: Paper mill stunk that we played ball, oh, but anywhere we went, went to Ashdown and they had a paper mill.

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Speaker 2: We had to hold our nose playing.

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Speaker 1: The whole smell like home to me though, really, yeah, you got used to it.

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Speaker 3: I smell like that to other people when you would go away, No, they'd be like, what's wrong?

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Speaker 2: No, so you weren't like stained by the paper mills.

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Speaker 1: Now, I will say I ended up through the year's summer job working at those paper mills.

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Speaker 2: And you do smell like it when you work there. That's awful.

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Speaker 3: But I just remember going into Ashdown which had the paper mill, and there the outfield wall was against the back of the paper mill, and mostly I played first base. I was left handed, but if we played tournaments, I played outfield. It was already miserable. You could just smell it when you got to town. Yeah, but then not they couldn't because they lived in it. Yeah, and that's it's a distinct memory.

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Speaker 1: We lived in it too, and we did smell it, no doubt. But and it did stink, don't get me wrong. But it was also like that's home, you know, what we grew.

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Speaker 2: Up with is what it is. But that's an advantage too. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Meals shut down and everybody kind of moved out. Some people stayed, and it just the economy went down. I mean it's still home.

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Speaker 2: I love it. I love the town.

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Speaker 1: It's called Bastrip, Louisiana.

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Speaker 3: All mill collapsed in Mountain Pine as well, and that's what gave everybody jobs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean population seven hundred. That was my hometown.

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Speaker 3: And I would say eighty percent of this at any city, eighty percent of the town worked at Warehouser.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And when it went down, everything got bad, school got bad.

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Speaker 2: Everybody left. Same here.

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Speaker 4: What's on the property now, nothing, that's nothing at all. It's weird driving back and I've heard of people coming in like wanting to do what are they doing now? They're like mining for.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. It's a way over my head. It's like bitcoin, something crazy like digitally. Yeah, like they want to use the property for that. But nothing's there at all. Short down everything you work at the mill. Did I ever think I would, Oh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like after high school? Oh no, because you always had you knew you were going to do.

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Speaker 1: Dude, I told I remember being on the playground as a kid in elementary school telling my buddies, I'm moving to Nashville to be a country singer.

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Speaker 2: Now, when you're that young, I didn't know what Nashville was.

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Speaker 1: I knew it was a city and where you go to be a country music singer.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I was trying to be my dad. You know.

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Speaker 1: In fourth grade, I wrote a book called My Future Life. And looking back now, I mean it was stories that I've heard of my dad and whatnot that he would tell me about. But if you go open that book right now. I saw it the other day. My wife had it in our closet and I ran into it and I look at that book. I've pretty much done everything in that book, and I was just always a believer of just man manifested. Tell yourself you're going to do it, And I think you can do anything in life like that. You know, now if I was a terrible singer, maybe not. But I don't know. Man, I just never I never told myself I was going to go to college or go work at the meal or do something like that. It's like, I'm going to go to Nashville. Know where it works out, We'll see.

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Speaker 3: But my grandma adopted me for a lot of my life, and so she kept this thing in kindergarten where it was like, what do you want to be? Classic right kindergarten? Yeah, And I wanted to be a be on the radio, be a stand up comedian, and be on TV. And so it's wild that I'm five, right and already wanted that. There was no one around me that did that. So it's like where did that even come from? But you know, you talk about manifesting, I feel like I just like subconsciously and even consciously committed to it at five years old.

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Speaker 2: So it was like I said it, I'm doing it. But it's crazy you.

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Speaker 3: Have the same story, like you knew it and you're looking at it now, isn't it kind of weird that kid, even though your dad did it, even though it was in the blood, even though it was in the house. But still from fourth grade you knew and here you are now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean even before fourth grade I knew. But I mean I think about it all the time. And I don't believe in coincidences either.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: I think and I try to tell people as like, even young kids. I try to tell like, man, just whatever you want to be you you can do what you want to do.

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Speaker 2: Got to work hard.

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Speaker 1: It's not gonna be given to you. You can do whatever you want to do. Just tell yourself you're going to do it, and don't listen to anybody else because they're the first people that'll talk you out of it, or you know, make some negative comment. I'm in my buddies like, ah, you ain't going to Nashville, Like, oh, you're not going to do this. You're not gonna do that.

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Speaker 3: People that can't or are scared to do it are often the ones to tell other people they can't do it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And as soon as you tell yourself you're not going to do it, you're not gonna do it.

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Speaker 3: I have a very similar feeling about life.

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Speaker 2: I think the world is completely bendable. Yep.

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Speaker 3: Weird to say and feel, but I think everything is negotiable. Everything, And like you know, you me or from tiny towns, Oh yeah, nobody gets out of those towns to do where I come from, nobody did.

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Speaker 2: It.

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Speaker 3: Was like Disney Disneyland was like the stuff on TV to move to Nashville to I want to do TV again.

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Speaker 2: That was Disneyland.

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Speaker 3: That was like crazy big bunnies and like that wasn't real yep. And there wasn't anybody there to say you can't do it. But there definitely wasn't anybody to say you could because nobody.

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Speaker 2: Did it right there.

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Speaker 3: How influential was your dad on either way on I just want you to do what you want to do, or if you want to do music, like let me guide you a little bit.

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Speaker 1: So, I mean, my dad took pride in the fact that I wanted to go do music right But my dad was and my mom both were also the type it didn't matter what I wanted to do, they were behind it. If I was to say I'm gonna go to college, then okay, you go to if I didn't want to go to college, which I didn't. They weren't the parents like, no, you need to do this, you need to do that, right, They were just they pretty much let me decide what I wanted to do in life and never I mean, the only thing my dad told me, like this is probably of the best advice I ever got. I didn't realize it at the time, was it's not an overnight success.

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Speaker 2: You know, it can be for some people.

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Speaker 3: Well, it also looks like it for everybody whenever you're from far away. Yeah, it looks like everybody just got famous one day. Yeah, but as your dad knew and as you know now, God dang, it is so the opposite. Even for people that have overnight success, it ain't overnight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's not overnight. And I mean sometimes I'm really bad about this. It's like I get so caught up and looking in the future. What's next? What am I gonna do? How am I gonna do this? How am I going to keep this thing going? You know that I forget to sit back and go Yeah, it may have. It took some time for me. You know, I was twenty five twenty six before I have my first hit and has it moved as quickly since then as I would want?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, I have to sit back and go, Man, but look what everything that's happened, Look what's happened so far. You know, look where I'm at. I'm exactly where I wanted to be living in Nashville. I'm more a bus We're playing music to a bunch of fans, sold out shows, and we've had number ones, and you know, you forget that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes.

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Speaker 2: Good perspective. I think myself included.

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Speaker 3: And I bet if we got ten creatives in whatever way at different levels of success, and we said, how do you feel about it? I just don't feel like I'm doing it fast enough. I don't feel like I don't. It drives me crazy. Yeah, Like I'm like, I'm not where I want to be.

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Speaker 2: I'm not moving at the rate I think I should be moving.

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Speaker 3: Like there's places where progression has completely stalled.

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Speaker 2: I'm really bad about the stalling part.

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Speaker 1: Like I feel like I'm just like sitting in limbo when really there's a lot going on right. It's just I feel like I'm sitting in limbo. And what I used to be really bad about in my twenties, really all through life until my late.

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Speaker 2: Twenties early thirties, when I figured it out.

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Speaker 1: I used to sit back and look at everybody else and try to compare situations, Well, why is this happening for them?

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Speaker 2: And why is this not happening blah blah blah blah.

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Speaker 1: And I used to wear myself out over it, you know, and then one day, I don't know if it's just getting older. I don't know if it's having three kids now that keep my mind somewhere else, or my wife.

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Speaker 2: But I don't feel that way anymore. You know.

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Speaker 1: It's just like, hey, I'm having fun. It is what it is. I don't care what anybody else is doing. I'm super happy for everybody. I just got to worry about what's going on in my life, and that's when I got really happy.

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Speaker 2: Does your dad keep playing music a little bit at home?

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Speaker 1: Like did he play for fun or met in church, played in church and keep a guitar in the house, kept a guitar in the house together, but not a ton man?

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Speaker 2: Did he teach you how to play. Yeah, he taught me guitar.

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Speaker 1: He taught me the cores I needed to learn, and after that, I mean it was pretty much kind of on my own in a way. I mean I'd be in my bedroom playing guitar singing, and he'd walk in and open the door and he'd look at me and go, you're over singing and just shut the door all back out, you know, But it's really it. I mean, most everything I've done by ear. I learned piano when I was super young. Try to take lessons and piano teacher calls my dad. She's like, I really can't teach him. Like if I play anything, he'll just learn it by ear without reading it. Like, I don't know what I can do here, So I've just kind of all picked it up on my own. I mean, my dad has taught me a lot, don't get me wrong.

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Speaker 2: But I picture you like screaming out of the womb like this.

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Speaker 1: I remember playing basketball like outside in the neighborhood as a kid.

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Speaker 2: Buddies be like, man, your voice is deep? Was it always deep? I mean I guess for a kid it was, yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you're a was there a like a puberty where it just kind of did that or was it always just deep and it just got a little deeper.

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Speaker 1: I think it was just deep as a kid and got deeper. I mean I remember going through obviously puberty and he had the little but it wasn't nothing crazy. It wouldn't like all of a sudden, whoa, what just happened? I don't remember that anyway away.

00:23:28
Speaker 3: For my boys get deeper, like my puberty hits me. I'm gonna be so cool. I'ma have a good voice.

00:23:33
Speaker 2: Your kids, are they all boys?

00:23:37
Speaker 1: Or two boys and a girl? So the oldest is seven Beckett, he's a boy, and then it's my little girl, Findley, she's five. And then we have a year and a half year old boy, Baron, and we're done anymore.

00:23:50
Speaker 2: Is there any connection to the names? No?

00:23:53
Speaker 1: Just whatever whatever my wife wanting. Yeah, i'd say whatever, not whatever. She throws some stuff out that I turned down, really quo.

00:24:00
Speaker 2: But so you had veto, but you let her for the most part. Yeah. And a lawnmower got me, She got you, She got me. She better be last. She's pretty man.

00:24:11
Speaker 3: On the side on the Lawnmore. When did you sing in public and not just in front of your parents. But when did you ever sing in front of people that didn't know you?

00:24:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I've sing in church my whole life. I was in a gospel trio with two other girls. We traveled around for a couple of years when I was a teenager, like fourteen, fifteen years old.

00:24:32
Speaker 2: What was her name?

00:24:33
Speaker 1: It's called eleventh Hour, which eleventh Hour is still around.

00:24:36
Speaker 2: They're still doing their thing that.

00:24:37
Speaker 3: It's actually a pretty cool name. A lot of times when people go, I was in at something at fifteen, it's kind of like, that's a good name.

00:24:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, eleventh Hour man.

00:24:43
Speaker 1: So we were you know, Southern gospel music, and they've i mean they've had hits on Southern gospel radio and stuff, so it's really cool.

00:24:52
Speaker 2: But I mean I used to play a little I don't know what you call them.

00:24:56
Speaker 1: That's a thing called the Louisiana hay Ride background from which is kind of iconic.

00:25:01
Speaker 2: Elvis used to play. A bunch of guys used to play it.

00:25:03
Speaker 1: But we'd played the little small town theater shows with the house Bam. That's where I met Laney Wilson. She's from the town over from a and we were sup from basketing fourteen basketin ye yeah, we were fourteen, fifteen years old and met her at one of those one.

00:25:19
Speaker 2: Of those shows.

00:25:20
Speaker 1: I was about to walk on stage, had gum on my misle. She puts her hand out, she goes, give me your gum, So, are you serious? She's like, give me your gum. So I put my gum in her hand and been buddies ever since. So we've been doing that a long time. That's pretty cool. Yeah, the two people from two small towns.

00:25:35
Speaker 2: Yep, right there together playing the same little shows and now here, Yeah, playing basically same shows. Yep. Yeah's that's a good one. Yep.

00:25:45
Speaker 3: When you moved here, you say you were nineteen. I think you said you were twenty five twenty six before you had a hit.

00:25:51
Speaker 2: What were those years?

00:25:52
Speaker 6: Like?

00:25:53
Speaker 2: What were you doing nineteen to twenty five twenty six?

00:25:55
Speaker 1: Just a lot of a lot of writing here in town, meeting a lot of songwriters.

00:25:59
Speaker 2: And then I hit the road.

00:26:01
Speaker 1: I bought a nineteen ninety nine black Ford van from some bluegrass group in Kentucky and they converted it into like a little that's some little bunks in it.

00:26:12
Speaker 2: You know.

00:26:12
Speaker 1: I thought I was thought I had it going on, you know, But we hit the road, playing shows for five hundred dollars a night for nobody, you know, around the whole country.

00:26:23
Speaker 2: We were driving this van.

00:26:25
Speaker 3: Tell me about a small show, Like what comes to mind if I say, tell me about a small show?

00:26:30
Speaker 1: Six people in Montana at a bar. That's a small show. And I mean, you got to understand, we had no hits at the time, but we were putting music out and I didn't know how I was going to do it. I had no I mean, six people, full band show.

00:26:49
Speaker 2: That's tough, Like, how do you maintain an appropriate energy? Yeah, for six people? And I don't know. I mean.

00:26:58
Speaker 1: Who I was back then to now is just night and day. A buddy of mine from from that same band that from the very beginning sent me a video the other day of us on stage, and I said, man, I said, who is that kid?

00:27:12
Speaker 2: And why would anybody give him a record deal? Why do you say that? What was different about that.

00:27:16
Speaker 1: Hid The body, mannerisms of how I performed, the way I sung was totally different, just everything.

00:27:24
Speaker 2: It was just like I just if that kid would have if I'm at.

00:27:28
Speaker 1: A record label today, and that kid myself early on walk into the room. I've been like, I don't know, that's my opinion anyway.

00:27:38
Speaker 3: But didn't that kid try? And they said, I don't know until you got better.

00:27:44
Speaker 2: I mean, I got a record deal before I graduated high school? Wait what? Yeah? Like what how started coming to town at sixteen? What the crap? You got a record? I had two offers.

00:27:57
Speaker 1: I had two record deal offers before I graduated high school, one from Curb Records and one from Warner Brothers.

00:28:02
Speaker 2: Those are real labels.

00:28:03
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was going to be like from Westland Dixie Record Company, like a guy that worked.

00:28:08
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

00:28:09
Speaker 1: Man, It's like getting back to what we were talking about earlier, manifesting stuff and no coincidence and believing that.

00:28:14
Speaker 2: It's like, I don't know how. I just knew that. That's why I was gonna do it.

00:28:18
Speaker 3: What they hear, what they hear from you at seventeen, you obviously like had a CD or something, right.

00:28:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean I'm not saying I was terrible, you know, It's just the way I sung and the way I carried myself.

00:28:30
Speaker 2: I was just like, man, what do these people see? But I don't know, dude.

00:28:35
Speaker 1: I was I was doing, like the really old school country stuff like I grew up a huge Keith Whitley fan, and obviously my dad with his past, like I grew up on the old stuff, and so when I moved to town like I was, I guess what I was trying to do was be something that I wasn't.

00:28:51
Speaker 2: As far as the way I sung, I was gonna say, did you try to sing like Keith Whitley?

00:28:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, pure Whitley, pure, Yeah, not that you're not.

00:29:00
Speaker 2: It's a different textually.

00:29:03
Speaker 1: And completely different, completely different, in my opinion, just one of the best voices there will ever be. But yeah, And I think I just had to find myself as all it was. And I think those little shows for six people in that van and going and doing it every weekend is what got me better. Being in the studio and singing made me find who I was as not only a person, but as a singer.

00:29:27
Speaker 3: I did a show at the Rhyman last night, and it doesn't matter who the artist is, but they're super successful now. But I think what you're saying lends to what I was explaining to some of my friends after the show, is that there are certain artists they get famous so fast because of technology, right, but they do not have the skills to actually sing because they haven't had to do it in tiny places, in small places.

00:30:00
Speaker 2: How to do it?

00:30:00
Speaker 3: Sick, learn how to do it three nights in a row, learn how to and so they can have massive songs. They can have success in that way, but they haven't been given the time or the ability to actually learn how to one do it to find themselves and they are who they are and there's almost nowhere for them to go in a weird way, they're kind of trapped. It's a great place to be trapped at first, but they're kind of trapped but they don't have that skill. And then at times it can end up because everybody records everything, it can end up on social media and people like this person sucks when really they don't suck. They just haven't learned how to sing. And I don't mean how to sing, but I mean how to sing as a career, good days, bad days, when you're sad. How much can you drink before like all the stuff that you talk about that you did, like finding yourself. I think that's so important for people to hear because you're in the middle of it.

00:30:58
Speaker 2: You're going, man, it's kind of was.

00:31:00
Speaker 3: I got eleven people here and all you know, and all I got is an apple, like the writers, an apple and an old warm mad dog.

00:31:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, but I think that's so it's so valuable.

00:31:14
Speaker 1: For you and in finding myself what I mean for me anyway, it was actually literally finding myself because I was trying to be something I wasn't and again I was trying to be part of it, what my dad wanted me to be, or what these labels thought they wanted me to be, or whoever else was in my ear. You know, it was like finding the true me.

00:31:33
Speaker 3: But I think if you had like one American Idol, for example, and you didn't know who you were as a vocalist as what you wanted to say, you would have been Dylan who won American Idol, and that's what everybody would have known you for. Yeah, that's your stamp.

00:31:52
Speaker 1: So getting back to what we was talking about while ago, as far as it's taken me a long time to get to where I'm at, I'm grateful for that because I really think if I would have had success early on, I might not be around anymore, or I might be something that I'm not today right. My wife said the other day was talking about something and whatnot, and maybe the same conversation. She's like, it's just all in God's playing, you.

00:32:16
Speaker 2: Know, just do you.

00:32:18
Speaker 1: It's gonna whatever's going to happen is going to happen, you know. So just keep pushing along doing your thing, and it'll happen when it's supposed to happen. And that's the same way with my music careers. Like it happened when it was supposed to happen and how it was supposed to happen.

00:32:32
Speaker 6: The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the Bobby Cast.

00:32:46
Speaker 2: What labeled you sayn with it? Seventeen curb breakers? Like you're still on the same level. Yeah, I been there almost fifteen years. That's crazy. That's an anomaly.

00:32:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean not the fifteen years, the fact that took you ever many years seventeen to hold you and you had to.

00:33:03
Speaker 1: Hit I'm thirty when I had to hit Yeah, Oh I was like twenty six.

00:33:07
Speaker 2: Maybe nine years out of label.

00:33:08
Speaker 3: Yeah, no commercial success. I'm sure they saw a lot in you. But to have you for nine years and you're still there nine years of We'll call it nothing. It's not nothing, but it's growing and they kept you yeah, not common.

00:33:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's that's another That's why I'm grateful for all that. You know, look back and you know record labels or record labels, you know, everybody can say anything they want about them.

00:33:35
Speaker 2: And it's with any business too. There's always good and there's always bad.

00:33:38
Speaker 1: But in my situation, it's like, man, I don't really have anything bad to say. They've stuck with me from the time I was a kid trying to find hisself, and you know, it's and it was a tough road too, because like when I signed with Curb Records, they opened up a subsidiary label called Sidewalk Records, and I was nobody at the time.

00:33:57
Speaker 2: They still had Tim mcgrawl guys like that, and so.

00:34:00
Speaker 1: They were putting all of their I would call them c X and maybe BX over on Sidewalk just to spread it out a little bit. So I got moved over, and it was tough. I hit radio tour with nobody explaining to me what radio tour was, and so I walked into the first station I went to, not knowing what I was supposed to do. There was you know, it's just so much stuff to it back then. I look back now and go, man, if I just had somebody to tell me, hey, you need to do here's what we're going to do, you know, maybe learn how to do this or do that or and so I was like this shy kid that And I really wasn't shy, but I came across that way because I had no idea what was going.

00:34:42
Speaker 2: On, you know. And so we had failed singles and this, this and that, and.

00:34:46
Speaker 1: Honestly, what really got me back over to the curb side where I needed to be was just YouTube, social media.

00:34:57
Speaker 2: We wouldn't really release some music.

00:34:58
Speaker 1: And so I told myself, I'm not going to sit here and wait for somebody to make me make my career for me.

00:35:05
Speaker 2: He's like, I want to do it myself. And so I started writing.

00:35:08
Speaker 1: Songs and making little homemade videos with buddies and throwing them on YouTube, and it started gaining success and that led to other things, and they're like, oh, we need to do something.

00:35:18
Speaker 2: So got back over on curb. And that's for their hand a little bit. I had to. Yeah.

00:35:23
Speaker 1: Not that not that they didn't believe, it's just that they had other things to go, and they had bigger fish to fry.

00:35:28
Speaker 3: Well, they had money that they had. They had to cover their own butts and make money so they didn't lose their job. Yeah, and with an unproven entity, if they continue to invest in it and it doesn't make money back, they lose their job. Like I understand the logic and why they wouldn't. I'm surprised, and not because it's you that after failed singles, they were like, we still believe in you.

00:35:49
Speaker 2: Let's keep going, even if it's a movie. To sidewalk, who was it? Who?

00:35:53
Speaker 3: Like, who do you look at at that time? That was like the one that believed in you.

00:36:00
Speaker 1: Def Turf is a guy over there who from day one has just always been there for me. He's on the marketing side of things, creative side of things. But I don't it's a hard question because I don't know if there's I don't know if there's anybody that just didn't believe in me.

00:36:14
Speaker 3: But somebody had to be like, that's our dude. Yeah, And maybe you don't know who they are or were.

00:36:21
Speaker 1: I mean, I really, I really don't know how that all happened collectively, you know, I don't know what really went on there, but I did once I got back to Curb, So I had probably two I think I had two felt singles at Sidewalk.

00:36:33
Speaker 2: What were they?

00:36:34
Speaker 1: My first single was a song called making This Boy Go Crazy. And when I say failed single, like it didn't obviously.

00:36:41
Speaker 2: Thirty two twenty sevenths.

00:36:42
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, didn't make top forty, you know, but it's streamed well. And then we put out another song. I think it was a song called Lay It on Me. It didn't really do much stream decently, and it was at that point that were like, man, these streaming numbers look pretty decent for a note body.

00:37:01
Speaker 2: And so that's when.

00:37:01
Speaker 1: They moved me back over to Curb and we put out a song called Crazy over Me, which did go to like thirty two, thirty one. And then it was the next single, which was my Girl was my first number one?

00:37:13
Speaker 2: Uh, crazy over Me? So he said, crazy over Me?

00:37:16
Speaker 3: When that goes to thirty one or thirty two after your moved back to the big label, is that a success to you? Or because it wasn't a top ten and you just got put back on we'll call it.

00:37:25
Speaker 2: The big leagues? Or was does it feel like a man failed again. Yeah, failed again.

00:37:29
Speaker 1: It wasn't the success, even though it was your highest. I mean, in my eyes, not failings. Number one, you know, I mean, not number two, not number three. I want to be number I will have the number one song. That's what that's what we're what we're here for have a number one song. And so when we went to thirty two, thirty one something like that, I mean I was, I was fired up right and with top forty single, this is cool. We're getting played on quite a few stations, and I was, uh, I remember them.

00:37:59
Speaker 2: Calling me and just like we lost it.

00:38:01
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that was devastating, because it's like, man, am I ever going to have a number one at that point? And then once you do have a number one, you're still like, God, am I gonna be a one hit wonder?

00:38:13
Speaker 2: It never ends, never ends. That's so funny. He said that, I.

00:38:19
Speaker 3: Have a very close friend who had a number one hit this last year and he spent forever trying to just get on the charts, gets a number one if he had another one, Yeah, but then he's like.

00:38:32
Speaker 2: What am I gonna do? I'm like, what do you mean when you do?

00:38:34
Speaker 3: I want to be a failure if I don't like, dude, four months ago, you were begging for a top ten just so you'd have another shot to have a song. But I do that too, right, It's like we got it and then we start hyper focusing in an unhealthy way.

00:38:49
Speaker 2: Very unhealthy. But you gotta be that way. Well, yes, not unhealthy, but you got to have that drive.

00:38:56
Speaker 3: Drive is different than an unhealthy expectation. I have full I'm full of unhealthy expectations, and I also have drive. I try to balance them. Most of mine is very unhealthy. I'm mentally very unhealthy. You get no men more mentally unhealthy than me. I'm so competitive. I want to kill everybody and everything all the time. So you're talking, we're talking out of the same mouth here. Yeah, But when it's somebody else, you have a bit more perspective, which is what's odd. And I have a couple of friends that will lend me perspective in the same situation and like, you're out of your mind, here's why.

00:39:26
Speaker 2: And with my friend, I'm like, you're out of your mind, here's why.

00:39:28
Speaker 3: Before you start to not sleep at night because you're worried about being a one hit wonder, how about when you didn't sleep, worrying if you're ever going to get a hit or be able to keep doing music full time to pay the bills.

00:39:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's that's where I was, and I'm sure that's where he was as well.

00:39:44
Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm talking about?

00:39:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, I mean after my girl. I just had my first son, so I've got my wife, I've got a kid. I mean, I'm starting my life really and I have a number one song.

00:39:58
Speaker 2: The money's going up a little bit, the shows are good. Everything, guarantees are getting bigger on them.

00:40:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, like everything's great. Like I'm supporting my family doing music now. I don't want to lose that.

00:40:09
Speaker 2: You know.

00:40:10
Speaker 1: It's like that's why you don't want to be a one hit wonder and you start stressing about it, like okay, I got to keep this going.

00:40:14
Speaker 2: Because this is how I pay the bills. Hey, how fast did my girl move? Like?

00:40:19
Speaker 1: Oh, none of my stuff's moves quick. See so revision you see something weak? Okay, that's crazy revision. But that's every in my head is like that was a quick one because it's because it's lasted.

00:40:31
Speaker 3: Because now it's still what they would call like a recurrent, like it still gets played because it's still one.

00:40:36
Speaker 2: Of our biggest songs. That's which is crazy to me.

00:40:38
Speaker 3: So in my mind, I didn't live in the forest, which you did. In my mind, I was like, yeah, dude, dump with that song out. Twenty weeks later, number one went on to the next one.

00:40:48
Speaker 2: That ain't what happened.

00:40:49
Speaker 1: No, every one of my singles are they're slow, but there's here's what.

00:40:54
Speaker 2: Happens with with my stuff.

00:40:56
Speaker 1: It's every single, every single one of them.

00:41:00
Speaker 2: It takes forever to get.

00:41:03
Speaker 1: To the twenties top thirty, forever, but once it gets to top thirty in the twenties super quick.

00:41:13
Speaker 3: There's a real marsh about forty five to thirty. It's hard to fight through that marsh. Yes, because there's a lot of songs, a lot from a lot of artists that are just trying to, like you say, break into that because then you get what they would call research.

00:41:29
Speaker 2: And I'm not a music director. I'm not a music guy.

00:41:31
Speaker 3: Every once in while I play something I like, but I got out of that world and I just do content at this point. But when I was in that space, like if you could get to what you're talking about, I'm glad you said that, because then they would have research, and then once you got some good research, they freaking shoot you like a rocket ship. It was just so hard to get from that forty five to twenty eight area. Yep, when you hit top twenty five, I did feel like the horse was moving a little bit. Oh it was flying, yeah every time, Like every week it was like bullet moving.

00:42:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, every time.

00:42:10
Speaker 1: And it's just blowing up and they're coming back like, oh, research is showing number one song on our market or number top five or whatever, like yeah, you know, And but I mean, knock on wood. I mean, hopefully we're fixing. We're fixing our six number one. And I mean it's been the same way and nothing's changed, and I don't hold I mean, at this point, I understand the business a lot better and I don't stress about that anymore either, Like it just is what it is. Like we're having fun. Everything else is good. And you've got other avenues now too. You know, it's it's radio and it's streaming and it's out playing your shows and building a fan base.

00:42:49
Speaker 2: Like everything is good.

00:42:50
Speaker 1: So I mean, don't get me wrong, I would love to have a single that moved twenty five.

00:42:54
Speaker 2: You way healthier. You're way healthier than I have.

00:42:56
Speaker 3: And hear you talk and I like, I wish I had a little bit of that, Like, because here's why I be frustrated.

00:43:02
Speaker 2: I don't want to trigger you. Here's why I be frustrated.

00:43:04
Speaker 3: And I feel like there are two artists that suffer and let me go ahead and spoiler, you're one of them that suffer from not getting the benefit of having big success because other people have two or three songs, and all of a sudden, it's like, we'll get him to the marsh pretty quick.

00:43:22
Speaker 2: We'll get the research a lot quicker because we just know that.

00:43:25
Speaker 3: So there have been artists with less that have been given bigger benefits. And the two artists that I go, they make hits. It's crazy they don't get that, is you for sure? Because again, you're about to do You're about to do six after three. They got to be like, why don't we just you know, look at the past, and Dylan's been able to crush it and then let's okay, let's listen to the song doesn't suck, no, okay, and he's able to crush it and all the other things I've researched well, So I get frustrated, not for you personally, because it's not like you and I hang out, so I don't like his friends, know, but as somebody who is a creative himself. I get frustrated for you in that way. And there's one other person. Can you name the other person? Not person, a group, A group, Yeah, I don't know, parmly, parmally, Yeah, it's and nobody nobody goes let's just they've done it four or five times.

00:44:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, they would.

00:44:25
Speaker 3: They should be able to get that that benefit of the doubt to at least get up into like the twenties without having some massive research because everything else has research.

00:44:34
Speaker 2: It's like, you're crap, you're healthy. Good for you. I'd be going freaking crazy.

00:44:38
Speaker 1: Well, I mean I still do I want to trigger you, See, I don't know.

00:44:41
Speaker 2: I don't want to trigger. You're not trigger going to look.

00:44:44
Speaker 1: I guess I've just, like I said earlier, having kids. Now maybe it's just getting older. It's uh, other things going on in my life as well. I mean, we can get to this, but I mean I've I've got a trash business in Louisiana that I deal with every day with a body of mine, my business partner. It's like I just have other things in life or worry about. But I reached a point of life where there's a lot of things that's just out of my control.

00:45:09
Speaker 2: Like I can't control that. I can't.

00:45:12
Speaker 1: I can be the nicest dude, I can be the most outgoing person I could. There's so much I could do that's still it's not gonna matter. I can't control how quick something moves or you know whatever. The only thing I can control is writing the music, putting out the best music I can my social media and showing my life and gaining and gaining fans and playing shows and playing the best show I can. That's all I really can do. I can't make a single move faster.

00:45:41
Speaker 3: Well, I get a little pis for you if you want to know, well, I appreciate that. And mostly, and I say this in the most complimentary way, it's not even about you. It's about you and what this data has shown. Because it's always a gadagadaganna.

00:45:55
Speaker 2: Well, numbers don't lie.

00:45:57
Speaker 3: Sure, then since they don't lie, then why don't we you those numbers? And there's a couple people that aren't getting the benefit of the numbers, and you're to me, you're one of those who if we're going to use data, if we're going to say A, B and C, get it because of this. Well here's d who's done more than that, has better data, and you guys are just like holding holding them back waiting again anyway. No, we're moving off because I get but.

00:46:23
Speaker 2: It's more to it than even trash business. I need trash business. Yeah, I'm not talking about ready on all of it. Yeah. Award shows, man, that's right. What my freaking head is playing them being a presenter. I know you can get back. I don't want to put you nominated. You know. That's why.

00:46:40
Speaker 1: Once again it's like, do I still get aggravated about that stuff? No doubt you think I want to sit at home on the couch with I mean, because I do this my little boy right here watching the award show and not being there, Like no, I want to be there. But I promise you I'm not fixing a go just walk a red carpet because I want people to go look at me, look at me, like that's not who I am.

00:46:59
Speaker 2: So I just don't Oh.

00:47:00
Speaker 3: Dude, same now, I don't. I want no offense to the color red or carpets.

00:47:08
Speaker 2: Love them both. Yeah, I don't do them anymore. I want to host.

00:47:14
Speaker 3: I have every credential to host these shows, meaning I just had a comedy special on CMT, I've been touring stand up.

00:47:20
Speaker 2: I have massive platform.

00:47:22
Speaker 3: I have had four TV shows, Like everything about it right has been. There is no way that I shouldn't have hosted one of these award shows, the one the I won't say which one one. I tend to get triggered quickly with you don't I need a trash business?

00:47:41
Speaker 2: Uh.

00:47:42
Speaker 3: I got a call a couple of years ago like hey, we want you to host the big, big one, and I'm like, finally, Like there's nothing more that I could do, data wise, and I've trained in every way, like on the road doing stand up all the time. It doesn't matter. I even wrote jokes for one of the award shows. No credit wrote jokes. I swear to god, they stole them and used them and never credit to me. But I was like, so anyway, they call them, they go, hey, I want you to host.

00:48:13
Speaker 2: The show, and I'm like, finally, let's go.

00:48:17
Speaker 3: And like three days before they were announcing it, they call and go, hey, we've had some we'll call them political issues.

00:48:24
Speaker 2: You can't we can't let you host it. Devastated and from.

00:48:28
Speaker 3: Then I'm like, I'm not going. I'm not presenting anymore. I'm not doing red carpets because I don't want to do that. I want to do that, and I try to not get angry. But I don't have a son to put on my lap, so I put a bulldog on my lap.

00:48:41
Speaker 2: But he don't care. Didn't know award show is, so it's worse. But you're yeah, I'm sure, yeah. I mean he doesn't know what the TV is. He just thinks a box of color. Because as an artist, man, it's like you see all these.

00:48:51
Speaker 1: Other once again you get back to looking at other people, which I don't really get into that anymore, but you do a little bit and you see and it's like, man, why why can't I Why can't I walk out on the stage and go in the winter is or whatever?

00:49:04
Speaker 2: You know, just something.

00:49:05
Speaker 3: It's funny we said at war shows at the same time, because I think about that with you. Yeah, that's how you know I'm not lying, because right when you said that, I was also talking about a ward shows for you, because I'm like, how do you not play a ward shows?

00:49:14
Speaker 2: You know?

00:49:16
Speaker 1: But you know it all boils down to a lot of things. That's the way it's political show. Yeah, I mean just you know, could it be well, I'm not going to.

00:49:24
Speaker 2: Get into that. I don't want you to do. I'm moving off. It's all good.

00:49:28
Speaker 3: What's your favorite candy tag? There you go, New Truck, different kind of energy to the song.

00:49:36
Speaker 2: You know, a lot of your stuff is super personal. Feels like that way to me.

00:49:39
Speaker 3: Maybe I just see your social media you and that's very personal. So a lot of what you do feels personal. New Truck feels I don't know, like up fun. Not that it's not personal, but I feel like it doesn't try to be as personal on purpose.

00:49:50
Speaker 2: Is that true or no?

00:49:51
Speaker 1: New Truck was I guess the point of me going, man, I got a lot of love songs here, and they work.

00:49:59
Speaker 2: The love songs work for me.

00:50:01
Speaker 1: Just because of my life and how I live it and what I do.

00:50:04
Speaker 2: Show on social media.

00:50:05
Speaker 1: And I was like, I don't want to back myself into the love song corner where I'm just out playing a bunch of love songs. So I had to do something different which New Truck. That's when I kind of shifted that corner.

00:50:17
Speaker 2: A little bit. Yeah, it just felt good. It was up tempo, up tempo breakup song. It was kind of cool.

00:50:25
Speaker 1: And so since then, since New Truck, I mean we did have can't have mine, but even like this town's been too good to us.

00:50:32
Speaker 2: Our single now.

00:50:33
Speaker 1: It's you know, the songs crushing, Yeah, I mean yeah, it's doing well.

00:50:39
Speaker 2: You know what, how do we strategize this?

00:50:42
Speaker 3: I want you to present an award shope, I want you to play on an award show. But okay, if you want to crawl before you walk? Fine, what do we do? Not even by me about you?

00:50:50
Speaker 2: What do we do? Who's your who's your agent? Like, don't say a person? Who's your company? As far as my booking management?

00:50:57
Speaker 3: No? Not an agent first, like I'm a uta William Moore's okay, who's your management?

00:51:02
Speaker 2: Kpe? Oh yeah sure she'll cut somebody's throat, oh no doubt. Yeah.

00:51:07
Speaker 3: I need to call Carrie and be like, what do you want? How do you want me to plaster this? Because I'll get annoyed with something and I will just beat it to oblivion where people want to kill me and then I know I've done it right. Yeah, Like even just hanging out with you, I'm re annoyed for you.

00:51:22
Speaker 2: You don't have to be re annoyed.

00:51:23
Speaker 3: No, I know I don't have to be, but I think I am because I maybe because I'm so selfish. I see me and you and you and me, and that we're both like, what the crap, man, We've done everything freaking possible. But like I'm kind of just working on it. Like after today, I'm working on it.

00:51:39
Speaker 2: You know.

00:51:39
Speaker 1: You hear people going, oh, we're bitter or we're jaded to the business.

00:51:43
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm not bitter or jaded. I'm not bitter one bit.

00:51:46
Speaker 1: Like I love everything about everybody. What's going on, this is great, you know, so, but I don't know, man, I just once again got to.

00:51:56
Speaker 2: The point where it's like I'm texting carry.

00:51:58
Speaker 1: I don't need only an award. I don't need a trophy, you know. I mean, dude, we are selling shows out across this country, you know, every night, tons of fans showing up, people know the music, everything's going well. You know, It's just we know how the business works sometimes and we know by winning an award is a good look and it can move the needle on things, but it ain't. I guess what I'm trying to say. I'm just look, I've never had the industry just go hey, let's go do this. You know, like I'm not on all the big what do you call it, like social media platforms. They're not talking about me, they're not doing this, they're not doing that.

00:52:41
Speaker 3: But you also have a big social media falling. So it's like you've built a base, a massive base. It's a it's a it's a dichotomy for sure, because you're like, I don't have ever been like he's the coolest, he's the trendy, yes something, Yet you have a massive following that you have built your own.

00:52:58
Speaker 1: Sometimes I just wonder if my life's just not as interesting as others, you know, like I'm not the guy that's out man, I'm not out there partying making a scene.

00:53:07
Speaker 3: I think that question is wrong. I think it's not. Am I not as interesting? Because I think you are very interesting because again, just look at data, look at your numbers, look your follow it, look at your white look at what you guys do. Right, You're consistently interesting to a lot of people. I think some of that quick flash that doesn't last, that's not there, but that's not what you're trying to do. But you can't say, am I not interesting? Because dude, people talk more about what you're doing on social media because that stuff always changes, like a song exists for like you said, it took a year for a song to be number one, Like people talk about your social media. I hear people to talking about it randomly, So wrong question to ask.

00:53:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what the question is, Like I don't know what. I don't know what it.

00:53:55
Speaker 3: Is, but yeah, I just text your manager and I'm like, tell me what to do, tell me what to do because that's no.

00:54:04
Speaker 2: But when I ask her, I mean business, Yeah she knows. I mean business. I just wonder.

00:54:09
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's like, man, like our stream, like my next single I'm putting out at radio, you know yet what it's called, what I'll never have? I mean, it's got over two hundred million streams already and it's not even it's a year this month it's been out. I mean it's one hundred and fifty of those on me and on just Spotify, you know. So it's like, man, Sometimes I go, dude, if we if we had some of the industry push, like the award shows, and we's in that light a little bit or on these platforms on social media. Wonder what it be then, you know, because there's a huge fan base we haven't tapped into yet. I've been on one major tour, one major tour the whole time I've been in town, which one was that Luke Bryn.

00:54:52
Speaker 3: And you know what is awesome but also sucks about that awesome because I love Luke. Luke and I are friends. We worked together four years outside of this place, worked in idle for four years, and so I know Carrie. So Carrie once got in a fight for me against a big Hollywood person once and it was the most legit thing I've ever seen where I was like, she'll take a box cutter to some And Carrie's is not my manager. But I love Carrie and she has like she I could tell you off air, she went hard at somebody.

00:55:17
Speaker 2: For me, what's awesome is Luke's awesome. But what is I hate doing this?

00:55:22
Speaker 3: I hate I don't know, I'm drigging, but I'm mad for you. But Luke is Carrie's your manager and she has the ability to go.

00:55:29
Speaker 2: So yeah, or tray of cereal.

00:55:34
Speaker 1: I had frosted flakes this morning, probably Cinnemente's crunch.

00:55:38
Speaker 3: Let's let's do some I don't want to be frustrated for you anymore.

00:55:41
Speaker 5: Okay, so let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor, and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

00:55:58
Speaker 3: This town's been uhe you had two good. I was doing the countdown this morning and it's five, I believe you. Yeah, has that one? That one feels like it's moved a little faster? Or is it that one was moving with the other one with you and the other Dylan, And it just feels like you've, like you biquitous Dylan?

00:56:16
Speaker 2: Is that Do you think that's what that one is? Yeah? Okay, yeah, this.

00:56:19
Speaker 3: One feels like you've been around more. But it's because you had two at once.

00:56:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all it is. It's still just as long. What how did you guys do? The moment? Was up with that song Boys back Home? Yeah? Yeah, Dylan.

00:56:33
Speaker 1: I took Dylan out on his first tour a couple of years ago and we just hit it off. He's just he's a good one. He's just a good old boy and he's a good performer. He's a good singer. And he was playing me that song, played me Boys back Home, and I just told him, I said, man, and he played me. He played me like five or six and boys wasn't like the one he was fired up about. It was another one was like a slower song, and it was great. But in my mind, I was like the wheels already turning, like I never had anybody go hey, dude, come on, let's let's do something together. Let's let's do a song. Let's blah blah blah blah. And I told myself early on, I was like, I will if I believe in somebody, and I like somebody, I'm going to help them, whether they've had a single, whether they're on a record label, I don't care. Like, if I can help somebody, like, I'm all for it.

00:57:23
Speaker 2: Do you think a part of that is? One?

00:57:25
Speaker 3: I think your solid, dude, but two, because it'd been nice if somebody would have jumped in with you like that.

00:57:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it'd been cool.

00:57:32
Speaker 1: You know, a young kid in town, like I go back to that kid and I'm like, man, it would have been so cool if and it's nobody's fault.

00:57:39
Speaker 2: It's just the way it played out.

00:57:41
Speaker 1: But I just told myself, like, man, I want to I want to be that guy if I can, you know, like be a bigger brother to somebody. And he played me Boys back Home and it was up tempo, and I just loved how it felt and it felt like a great collab and I went in and put my vocal on it. The next week, he'd have a record deal, and I remember taking it, yeah, and I remember taking it to Curb and I said, uh, said, hey, listen to this, like we need we need to put this out, and they were like they were playing the whole game of like, guys, you don't have a record deal. Well, as soon as he gets a record deal, I took it back to him and they were on board to do and whatnot. But yeah, man, I'm just glad it worked out the way.

00:58:17
Speaker 2: Dude.

00:58:18
Speaker 3: Let me use another piece of data here. As far as like getting radio player, there were only three artists that had more than you over the last year. It was Jelly Rowl, Morgan Wallen, don't tell me the other one post line that's it, and you fourth.

00:58:39
Speaker 1: I've been hearing some stats like this. I don't keep up with the stats stuff. But I've been hearing a couple of stats here lately, and I'm just like, it's kind of interesting, you know.

00:58:48
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I feel like at times like my podcast numbers are monster, right, I mean not as in you know, but like they're monster. And I feel at times, and I'll put it on me that maybe I don't educate people enough.

00:59:09
Speaker 2: To know.

00:59:13
Speaker 3: The capabilities that I have and the platform that I've created in it. I will put some of it on me as well, meaning everyone's like, we need to find this person pot this podcast, and it's like your radio show is big, and I'm like, you have no idea, you should look at the podcast numbers, and so a bit I do put it on me too, where it's like I think I could educate people. It's tough, though, to educate and not sound freaking cocky as crap. Sure, there's a difference in confidence and arrogance, and I bounce back and forth. There's no real way to walk that and that it's a tough thing to do. But if you were to, you can't really wear a shirt that says that, hey, yeah, only three people are beating me and it's post malone jelly. But yeah, it's that's the that's the trick, Like, how do you educate folks so they understand exactly what they're not seeing?

01:00:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, like you said, I don't know how I do it, you know, without being cocky.

01:00:12
Speaker 2: And that's that's unluckily too.

01:00:13
Speaker 1: You know I have a great accounts Yeah, I have a great team around me as far as label and management and my agents. Like I just it's kind of their their job and they're laying to go make that happen. You know, I can't. I mean, I don't even know where I who would even who would I even talk to? Hey man, I was the or girl, I was the fourth blah blah blah blah without, like you said, sounding cocky, I just started it.

01:00:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did a little bit right there. Uh.

01:00:43
Speaker 3: This podcast is a rather large podcast, and I know there are a lot of industry people that listen to this podcast would just like to say it's like a political add The guy's killing it. It's not even that I need to convince you he's good. Be like, trust me, if you don't have to dig, if you just just go to his page, just go to one of the streaming sites page, go to Spotify to look at the numbers beside him.

01:01:10
Speaker 2: Look at the number of hits that are radio hits.

01:01:13
Speaker 3: Look at a social media the fact that he's not even presenting on an award show. You guys messing up. So I'm encouraging you vote. Vote for Dylan Scott.

01:01:26
Speaker 2: And this ad is brought to you by box Water is better. Well, I wish you I had to deal with them, that would be nice. Oh. I have a deal with the environment though, that's why we use this. There you go.

01:01:34
Speaker 3: They don't pay me though, and I'll never actually see it. I'll be dead before it actually pays off. Yeah, that show biz though part of it. Yeah. Uh, man, good job hanging there. I'm talking to me and you at the same time. I'm talking to me, but you're here too. A good job, man, hanging there.

01:01:49
Speaker 2: You can do it. You're killing it. You're killing it. Oh, it's all good on this end, man, how and everybody Holme's good.

01:01:54
Speaker 1: Family's good, family's great kids, great Beckett starting baseball practicing right now, he's killing it.

01:02:02
Speaker 2: I didn't play baseball growing up. I wish I did. My dad was the type. He was like, sure, you want to waste your whole summer.

01:02:08
Speaker 1: In other words, I really don't want you to play played basketball. So I'm loving the baseball phase with Beacon. He's really good. I'm not saying it because he's my kid. Like he's really gravitating towards it and it's fun.

01:02:21
Speaker 2: You put a little weights in their hands. No, what does that do? I don't know. You're jacked.

01:02:26
Speaker 1: Oh no, I haven't worked out since July. I haven't lifted a weight since July. If this is residual, come me in.

01:02:35
Speaker 2: I'd like some. I lost like ten pounds. Why would you get sick?

01:02:39
Speaker 1: No, I just I've worked out my whole life almost like you know, like eighteen almost every day religiously. I did the deal, and I just kind of got burnt out. And so it was a busy summer. Was on the road a lot. I'm always a wake up after a couple hours. He I'll go to a gym somewhere randomly. And I just had a lot going on. Stressed, not stressed about like I'm stressed out because something happened, just a lot going on. Your body stressed, and it's like I need to take a break. And I wanted to take a break just to see what my body would do because I'm thirty four now, like my metabolism slowing down? I am I gonna get fat? Like what's gonna happen? And it's been great honestly.

01:03:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, not too. U don't to worry of bragging about that, are you? Yeah? Yeah, it's still good. Yeah.

01:03:27
Speaker 3: I'm like, I went and got a fit full physical like all panels.

01:03:32
Speaker 2: All the blood, all had that done last week. Did you your results back? I did. I got them met a block age of twenty eight year old. Come on now, they didn't tell me all that because you don't.

01:03:41
Speaker 1: That's why they said everything is excellent.

01:03:45
Speaker 2: I said, okay. They said, but you're cholesterol and I'm like, uh oh, I got a little colesterol too.

01:03:50
Speaker 3: But you know what I didn't do. I didn't know not to eat before I did it.

01:03:53
Speaker 2: My crystal cholesterol is low. Oh really yeah, not high, it's low. They told me that. How do is it too low? I don't.

01:04:00
Speaker 1: They said, eat more red meat, more fat, They said, eat worse, eat more, eat worse.

01:04:05
Speaker 2: I need your doctor. He's a good one. I need your doctor. He ain't just your doctor. You down the road.

01:04:10
Speaker 1: That's just like okay, yeah.

01:04:13
Speaker 2: He's out of Dallas. You have a concert. Oh okay, you stay up a concierge doctor. I don't know what that is, dude, I don't either, until so they come to you.

01:04:20
Speaker 3: So I'll be traveling so much. Right, come go to the office, you wait and whatever.

01:04:26
Speaker 2: Yeah.

01:04:27
Speaker 3: And so my friend Brett was he's an art traveling artist. He's like, you should get concierge doctor one. You can call him anytime you're on the road. You're sick, you god forbid, I have to take a steroid shot and my voice is gone. But sometimes you have to. He's like, they got you. And then yeah, anytime they come to you. And yeah, it's a little expensive, but like for jobs job like I have, it's convenience.

01:04:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. It pays for itself.

01:04:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, and maybe he just told me I was twenty because I pay extra. I and thinking about that till right now, like you know, but uh he my cholesterol was high and.

01:05:01
Speaker 2: I just a little bit. And I was like, why do you think that is? He said, before you came in to do your work, when was the last time you ate?

01:05:09
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't know. An hour before some eggs. He goes, you got a fast for twelve hours? He goes you're eating chocolate whenever. Before we started, I was like.

01:05:16
Speaker 2: That's a good point.

01:05:16
Speaker 3: It's a good point, and so I think mine could be normal. Probably is, but it definitely ain't low. Uh, dude, it's been so good to talk with you.

01:05:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, same here, Thanks for having me.

01:05:26
Speaker 3: Just a couple of things. I know we mentioned some of this early on. So the Country Till I Die tour, it's a lot of shows.

01:05:34
Speaker 2: It threw abel. Oh, George is out with you. Yeah, George's direct support. He got good.

01:05:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's weird, Yeah, because he was always he was always good, and he was and I take him out and he'd opened shows and George is good, but like he he had and you know this, you know I work on't you get some confidence? It opens new doors to you. He's like freaking good. Now it's weird. Like I found him a pickleball and then I watch him play and I'm like, dude, you like.

01:06:02
Speaker 2: You got a couple of hit confidence there.

01:06:05
Speaker 1: He's been doing a long time though he hasn't been doing a long was the group before Oh this Daughterloo Waterloo Revival and so what's wild about this?

01:06:14
Speaker 2: I knew George.

01:06:15
Speaker 1: I forget the other guy's name. I knew them back in those days. He's doing radio tour stuff together. And then I didn't see George for a while, and then I ran into him and I almost didn't recognize him without the group, you know, And when it clicked finally, I was like, this is really cool. He's doing what he's doing and it's working and quit is that what happened?

01:06:36
Speaker 2: He was just writing.

01:06:37
Speaker 3: He was like, I'm just gonna write, and then you put a song. Clay Walker was like, hey, you should put that song on TikTok and he's like, I want to be a TikTok guy, and which is what everybody says before they realize if you do it right, it's not corny.

01:06:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a difference. There's corny, there's.

01:06:52
Speaker 1: Corny and then there and you gotta be corny sometimes, but.

01:06:56
Speaker 3: There's also not corny. And so we put it up, started to get a little little heat. Next thing, you know, he's like, I guess I'll try it. And it's been awesome.

01:07:05
Speaker 1: And there's a fine line of being an influencer as well.

01:07:10
Speaker 2: Wait for somebody tell me to you right now?

01:07:11
Speaker 3: What no use my promo code?

01:07:16
Speaker 1: I think Amy called me an influencer. I'm like, I'm not an influencer, man, Like, we ain't got to. I walked out of a Slim Chickens the other day and this girl was walking in and she goes, you're that TikTok guy. I said, no, I'm not. I just kept walking. I never told her anything else, never spoken other words like no, I'm not.

01:07:35
Speaker 2: My TikTok, but I'm not the TikTok guy. Yes, fine line.

01:07:38
Speaker 3: Dylanscott Country dot Com and April through you know, mid May, doing a bunch of affairs and festivals and yeah, man, congrats on another song that's about to be a number one. I looked at some research. Yeah, I'm sure you've seen it's it's there. You guys probably potting it out at this point, right, it's pretty planned. We're just in line here.

01:07:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all.

01:08:01
Speaker 6: That.

01:08:02
Speaker 2: When this comes out, I Hate Whiskey will be out. Yes, it comes out then the March. Yeah yeah, So what's what are you doing with that? You're just is it existing? Yeah? I mean I Hate Whiskey?

01:08:13
Speaker 1: Was that it's one of those songs I've had for a while and it's it's such a great song, Like.

01:08:21
Speaker 2: I wanted to be the single, but then again, what will Never Have?

01:08:24
Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't write I Hate Whiskey. I did write what Will Never Happen. I was like, I don't know about what I'll Never Have because it's been out for a year. But I just can't really deny the numbers on it. But that's a fine line, man. You take somebody's song that you didn't write and it's not a radio single, it's just a DSP, just a streaming release, and you know, there's not a lot of money being made there, but it could also really help me as an artist. But it doesn't make the writers any money. It's like, that's a super I don't know, man, that's a that's a topic on my mind every day as far as when I'm looking at music, you know, because I'm a boy.

01:08:59
Speaker 2: I just, man, it's such a great song.

01:09:01
Speaker 1: It deserves to be a single, you know, it deserves to make these writers money. And like, you know, if it goes and does one hundred and fifty million streams, two hundred million streams, whatever, it does not add up to what it is a single, and you just gotta feel bad about it.

01:09:15
Speaker 3: But well, but y'all hit one, this one hits in three and a half years, when your next one comes out, well that's.

01:09:23
Speaker 2: That's another thing. You're still gonna be a single. You never know, all right at Dylan Scott Country. Dylan, good to talk to you about it.

01:09:29
Speaker 5: You too, Thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production