Hour 3 – Fritzy Getting Crushed, Dan Hurley

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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: I love audience participation, audience engagement, but this fight would be over. Todd is gonna die on this hill if he's gonna stay in the left lane. He's not moving over, even though it's called the passing lane, and social media is not being kind to Todd.

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Speaker 3: Start losing followers. I'm gonna be like non existed in the world. What am I gonna do? I gotta get more likes. I'm gonna change my opinion.

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Speaker 4: You're only gonna lose five. You know that's all my brand.

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Speaker 3: Topic to my brand.

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Speaker 4: Okay, why can't you admit, all right, maybe I need to change my driving style.

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Speaker 3: I'll give it some thought. I just did. I'm gonna stay in the left lay to let them go out.

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Speaker 5: Yes, Paul Todd does not believe that it's more dangerous when a fast car passes on the right on a three lane highway and goes into the middle lane.

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Speaker 3: It's a problem right there.

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Speaker 6: A fast car, if you're going at normal speech, should be that dangerous.

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Speaker 3: To move around.

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Speaker 5: I wish a policeman or someone who knows about your traffic rules would call and explain this shit.

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Speaker 2: I don't even think we need a police officer to call in. I think it's just common sense. Let's just get out of the passing lane.

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Speaker 3: Let's move over.

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Speaker 6: I like to go one hundred, too bad, Get out of my will now, it's one hundred. If I'm going seventy five and they're on my tail, to me, they're going at.

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Speaker 3: Least eighty five.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, see that's too fast.

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Speaker 7: It's one. Someone just said on social media, fire him immediately. That seemed a little harsh my livelihood. I had a friend too that just said I actually hate him.

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Speaker 6: For this, so passionate, God bless him and pass good or bed if even if that not taking myself with the passion, that's what we like.

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Speaker 2: Like. This has made me dislike Fritzi forever. He's the worst type of driver out there. There is little I love more than when Fritzie argues for himself when he's clearly wrong.

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Speaker 3: I just blocked him on Instagram.

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Speaker 2: Todd stop impeding traffic. Exclamation point Todd is incorrect. Uh, just like the sign John Elway's dad and Vince Lombardi had on their desk, lead follow or get the f out of the way.

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Speaker 6: How am I going to be a social media influencer? Now what's going to become of me?

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Speaker 4: I don't think you ever were.

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Speaker 3: So that's like, how will I ever become one?

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Speaker 7: This is a funny turn to take. It's like this weird influencer defense. Now, yeah, I don't know just or or he could just move from the left lane to the middle lane.

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Speaker 2: How about or that? Yeah, when it comes to discussing something, can you just pick a lane? Todd Like, pick a lane that's where they need to go. You've been all over the highway here, all over the highway? How fast somebody's going? Next thing? You know, you're racing through plowing through a CBS. There's a grandma going thirty miles an hour now with social media?

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Speaker 6: Like, how was going seventy five left lane? Blocking the person behind me? How am I inconvenicing them? How is why is that such a horrible thing? I'm going faster than I'm supposed to be going already, by like double digits.

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Speaker 3: I could get a ticket for that.

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Speaker 4: Should you be going ten miles over the speed limit to begin But.

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Speaker 6: Now I'm forced to go even faster because it's probably your crash into my bucket.

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Speaker 3: And now I got to go to Todd. You can get in the right lane and he can go to the middle lane from the left lane too. Oh my god.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: See That's the thing that I can't put my finger on just yet. Is why if Todd is upset that that person is in such a rush that they you know, they want to get by him, then just go around me or whatever. But why is Todd's Todd is so important that he gets to stay in that lane, but that other person is less important than Todd. Whatever they have going on can't be as important as whatever Todd has going on because he gets to stay in that one lane.

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Speaker 4: I don't understand that part of it.

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Speaker 6: I don't look at as an important thing. It's more of it. If anything, it's a stubborn thing. It's like I'm already going plenty fast and maybe I shouldn't be arbitrary deciding what's fast.

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Speaker 3: I understand that argument, But.

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Speaker 6: I'm already going what I would consider very fast in the left lane and it's still not fasten up for this person behind me.

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Speaker 3: Are you not trying to hold anybody up? Or like I'm better than you to be?

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Speaker 6: Haha, I'm making your You're stuck behind me because there's no way for you to get around me.

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Speaker 3: For the next several months of you literally stuck, there's nothing you do.

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Speaker 2: There's this psychology attached to this with you, there really is. You don't want to be told. Just like whenever we bring up something and we can be one hundred percent right, you'll never go you know what, you're right, You'll you'll change the argument.

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Speaker 3: I'll say I appreciate your point.

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Speaker 4: I'll go that fine, I know, but you never stay on the topic. You move it. Now all of a sudden, we're talking about other things.

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Speaker 6: It's take for me to change my opinion. And then I will throw things that have nothing to do with the argument. I know that'll somehow get through.

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Speaker 4: I know, and then I always bring it back to what the argument.

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Speaker 3: But again it doesn't.

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Speaker 6: I'm not it's not meant to be an arrogant thing. And if it's preceding.

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Speaker 4: It is it is. You don't want to be told what to do.

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Speaker 6: This person's trying to tell me what to do. He's trying to make me go even faster. So I'm been he's telling me what to do.

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Speaker 2: By driving, somebody's not driving safely. I'm going to move out of the way and let them do what they.

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Speaker 3: How is that person not telling me what to do?

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Speaker 6: If he's on my bum he or she's on my bumper, that's they're telling me you better go faster or get out of my way.

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Speaker 3: So they're telling me what to do.

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Speaker 4: Do you want to fight or be safe?

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Speaker 3: I would like to be saved.

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Speaker 4: Okay, then move over.

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Speaker 6: But I think both people are in the right or wrong in that situation. Yeah, they can go faster than ever to keep up with the sweet that this person wants me to go, or they can just go around me for something, risk everyone's lives going to the middle lane.

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Speaker 7: We just got our first muck headline assing Lane.

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Speaker 6: Yes, Marvin and Fritzie, you want headlines against me like Lane.

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Speaker 9: And Fritzie wants people to explain why they're going so fast, like oh, if somebody's having a baby, or if you know there's an ambulance, they have to explain who in the rudy blue hell or you that they need to explain why they're going so fast, and you're in the It's called the passing lane for a reason.

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Speaker 3: It's not the dragstrip lane.

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Speaker 10: Right.

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Speaker 3: I just I just I don't know. I just I find it.

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Speaker 6: You know, this person is also trying to dictate how fast I go by almost crash it by riding my bumper. God, well, how is that person absolved from everything? How do you not just fold your tent?

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Speaker 3: I can't because I'm I'm not.

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Speaker 6: If I was going forty to fifty whatever, then I could see, like, what are you holding everybody up? This is the lane where everyone goes faster than the middle in and right lane. I'm going beyond the speed limit and still not good enough. This person's on my tail like I'm holding everybody up? So how that person's being the arrogant.

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Speaker 4: A hour of the program, we'll talk to Dan Hurley. He will join us.

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Speaker 6: Got a memoir, fire him, walk them, throw them to the wolves for crying out out.

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Speaker 4: Just move over, it's all. Just move over. It's okay. You can get back in the left lane if you want.

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Speaker 3: I want them to move over so I can see what this idiot looks like. That's in a big hurry.

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Speaker 4: Well, if you move over to the right, then you can see them as they go by it here.

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Speaker 3: But I want to get that win.

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Speaker 11: Ah.

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Speaker 3: The game of a Chick and I you how to move. You thought I was gonna move, but you change.

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Speaker 2: Sunday night, it'll be Micah Parsons going back to Dallas to face the Cowboys. Packers Cowboys a rivalry renewed Sunday seven Eastern on NBC and Peacock Dante and San Diego.

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Speaker 4: Hi Dante.

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Speaker 12: They call me Padre Dante H five five nine a California Brito one seventy two. Hey, just wanna circle back to the base or role Fritty.

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Speaker 13: I'm gonna get to you.

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Speaker 8: Hey.

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Speaker 13: Uh for the playoffs, I've always thought about this, Why don't they turn off the pitch clock to start the seventh inning? Because we love the excitement, the anticipation between a pitcher and a batter when it's the post Lina game, the crowds gaining wild. So that's just my proposal, Like to hear what you think, Dan Fritty, Mama Mia, you are the problem. Just get over you, blockhead. You're probably the guy that still have the ism sort that's still request to try the play favor of Vanilla.

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Speaker 6: So me and this person behind me, we're absolved from any kind of speeding ticket, I would think, because it's all about you know, the safety and the passing lane of it. So if I'm going eighty and the person behind me is going ninety, the police would just wink at that.

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Speaker 2: They can't go ninety behind you if you're going eighty, Todd, they can't.

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Speaker 3: If football going over the speed limit.

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Speaker 6: I would think based in this scenario, like neither one of us is doing anything wrong. This person is just trying to get past me, and I'm camping in the lane, So like, you know, just just let them go. One's going eighty, one's going ninety, and that's the way it goes.

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Speaker 7: Or you could just move on and go about your day and drive exactly as fast as you want.

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Speaker 6: Someone said the same thing that that seems that explicitly prohibits left lane camping and requires drivers to use the left lane only for passing, preparing for a left lane exitor when necessary due to obstructions or traffic congestion. The goal is to reduce crashes, yes, and improve traffic.

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Speaker 7: That's what we've been saying for twenty minutes. Reduce crashes and improve traffic.

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Speaker 3: So why is there a speed limit?

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Speaker 14: Then?

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Speaker 6: If it's all about like why limit? Hey, how fast as you want? Would you move to Germany and you got the auto. We're all basically saying, go as fast as you want in the left lane. That's that's what the left plane is for. Go one hundred, go to one hundred and fifty, go as fast.

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Speaker 4: As you This is this is where you sound real.

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Speaker 3: If I'm going one hundred and thirty behind me once to go one hundred and fifty, I'm supposed to get out of there.

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Speaker 6: Line now it's one hundred and fifty, whatever, it's above the speeding It doesn't matter what the number is. It could be sixty six, it could be one hundred and two. We're breaking the law. We're both speeding.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, point in our state. It's different in all states. But it's actually illegal to pass in the right lane or on the right and you'd be charge at reckless driving. So Todd's forcing a situation. Todd won't admit that there's an etiquette during driving that we all somewhat you know, subscribe to, and by doing this, he's messing up the etiquette for everyone else and putting others in danger. While knowing this, he told us in the break, he's not changing how he drives.

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Speaker 6: I would ask the congressman that would refer to the congressman, what is the camping speed?

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Speaker 3: And can you go pretty much as fast as you want in the left lane?

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Speaker 4: Do you do you realize you're putting people in danger?

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Speaker 6: That's not the intention, But it doesn't feel like it's not like the person behind me is putting a danger.

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Speaker 4: I'm asking you, do you realize you're putting.

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Speaker 3: I guess I don't realize. I know that this person behind me is about to cause an.

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Speaker 4: APIs Are you putting people in danger camping in the left light?

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Speaker 15: Yes?

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Speaker 16: Or no?

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Speaker 6: I don't feel like I want to say no. I don't feel like I'm putting anybody in danger. And I want to know what camping means. That's a very convenient, vague term that leagues get away with their rules, and so does I guess the Department of Transportation camping?

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Speaker 4: What that camp is?

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Speaker 17: That?

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Speaker 3: What is the camping?

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Speaker 7: Like?

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Speaker 3: Like I parked and I set up a tent trying to get duke tickets that's on come. That's ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: Once again, let's change you move the goal line. Gold post camping.

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Speaker 6: Makes it sound like you just you know you're gonna make some take out your marshmallows out and you just gotta pulled over and blocking.

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Speaker 4: Everything again, we gotta change terrible terms.

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Speaker 3: Camping. Left ling camping, what a ridiculous phrase.

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Speaker 4: You're gonna lead me to an early grave.

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Speaker 3: I'm not trying to aggravate everybody.

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Speaker 4: Know what your main character syndrome is off the charts.

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Speaker 3: Guy behind me is an extra.

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Speaker 2: Once again, when you show up at my way, can you run into my wife? I want you to say, I'm sorry I did this. Okay, you gotta.

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Speaker 3: Be running into left lane. Are you gonna have like lane setups so you can get the point across?

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Speaker 4: Okay? So now I don't want to be camping My death is funny.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to be camping out during the service.

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Speaker 6: Other people trying to get to their seats and pay respect, and there I'm camping out, not running fast enough to my seat.

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Speaker 3: I'd be terrible to do that.

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Speaker 4: You can't run, I can't.

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Speaker 3: I have to plant the fashions.

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Speaker 4: Once again, you're gonna make fun of me dying.

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Speaker 6: So someone needs to call in, like Paulie said, and set the straight. And I urged them to explain what left lane camping means, what.

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Speaker 4: That's Paulie, would you just find something, you find.

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Speaker 5: An expert who knows more of that?

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Speaker 6: And is it safe to ride someone's bumper in the left lane because they're not going that many miles past.

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Speaker 2: The sah' is the pole question for the final hour over the program scene as I'll just rip up everything. It's I mean, I feel bad for Dan Hurley coming on to talk about his memoir.

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Speaker 7: You know, I gotta tell you, that's a guy. I want to know exactly what his driving habits are. If there was ever road rage personified, I feel like it might be. Coach, how do you feel about somebody who won't move over? Is that my first question?

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Speaker 3: Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's exactly right.

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Speaker 2: Coach, how do you feel about somebody camping in the left lane on the highway.

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Speaker 7: He's got he's got the Jersey part of it, He's got Connecticut. He's that's a fellow who understands frustrated.

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Speaker 4: The driving Aaron and Fort Wayne Hiern Hey, Dan, thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 18: My grandpa drove like this and uh all the way from Fort Wayne to New Simberna Beach. You know you're talking about the subtle middle finger you get a lot of really aggressive middle fingers when you're going seventy two in the left lane all the way to New Summerna Beach.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Todd's not changing. George and Arizona.

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Speaker 16: Hi George, Hi Dan, Dan, that's good morning. I think what Todd also fails to realize if he not only puts people in das he want right, he wants himself a great risk of serious injury or death because allans, I've been rear ended by a person driving mattey miles an hour in the left lane that could force him into the middle barrier. There's nothing much to his car. I've seen that happen there. I was on too many times. He's really really retinct. That's best position with his riding with his family. Walk with your family at risk of that?

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Speaker 4: All right, thank you, George. Have we exhausted this topic?

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Speaker 14: We good?

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Speaker 3: I think we're just scratching the off.

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Speaker 4: No we're not. No, No, we're not.

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Speaker 7: I feel like we really have to get coaches thoughts on.

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Speaker 4: All right, I will, I will.

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Speaker 7: I see, I see why we may have exhausted.

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Speaker 6: My problem, I guess is one of them of many is I never realized how danger it is to go from the left lane to the middle end.

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Speaker 4: But now that you do, are you changing?

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Speaker 6: No, because I don't believe that that is such a crazy dangerous move to go around me, because I'm not going as fast as you'd like me to go.

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Speaker 3: That that can't be that horribly complicated.

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Speaker 6: And dangerous of a move to go from the left lane to the middle land. Then was just stuck in the left lane forever until there's a left exit to get up.

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Speaker 3: I just gotta stuck there, like you're on.

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Speaker 4: A good morning.

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Speaker 2: If you're watching on Peacock, I apologize, or you're listening on our radio affiliates around the country, I apologize as well. The tweets are coming in fast and free and uh. For the most part, Todd's doesn't have any friends. Although here's somebody that Todd just sent me. Yeah, of course, I said, funny you. Yeah, I'm totally with Fritzy one with him the ass tailgating ask him to go around one hundred bucks. Say they drive a truck going ten miles over the speed limit x campaign.

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Speaker 6: Oh the pickup truck, very busy getting the logs and I gotta go, I gotta go, I gotta.

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Speaker 2: Get if I'm already going above the speed limit, and you want to go even faster than go around me.

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Speaker 4: These unwritten rules or lame so.

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Speaker 7: Sor was the example. Todd just gave a logging truck tailghitting him.

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Speaker 3: He just said, oh, yes, a truck. I have to get these logs in truck.

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Speaker 7: I think of logging log So it's a logging truck that's going an hour in Connecticut of all places, and you're small.

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Speaker 3: In the bottom half of your body, and I got to get the pickup truck.

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Speaker 7: It's amazing.

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Speaker 3: Got a compensation compensation somewhere?

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Speaker 4: What size of logs are you going to put in a pickup truck?

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Speaker 3: You're talking about macho.

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Speaker 6: Logging, gotta go really fast in the left lane all he drives a truck.

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Speaker 3: I'm not naming names.

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Speaker 10: I'm just saying that. Also a huge logger. Yeah, everybody knows that. No, No, it's a logger drinking. I got logger in the back here. Pickup truck, yeah, blogging, what are we?

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Speaker 7: I would concur the pickup truck guy is the most uh terrifying driver currently.

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Speaker 3: That's why I.

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Speaker 6: Move over the motorcycle tattoo guy with a big lady friend with the tattoos on the back seat.

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Speaker 3: Motorcycle guy, let's go meet up and hang out and get some bs.

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Speaker 5: Paul or the guys with the fast and the furious cars like the Honda Civic with the twelve dollars muffler.

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Speaker 4: All right, let's take a break here.

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Speaker 3: It's exhausted.

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Speaker 4: Let's rally. All right, what a world?

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Speaker 3: No boy?

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Speaker 4: Shout out to public transportation.

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Speaker 3: Hey, let the bus drives in the county, deal with it.

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Speaker 4: I'm a light rail people, shout got a light rail person?

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Speaker 7: All right, Yeah, we're gonna take a break here, empt a yeah on the subway.

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Speaker 3: Youn't got to worry about the left wing.

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Speaker 4: We'll talk to Connecticut.

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Speaker 2: It's head basketball coach Dan Hurley is new memoir Never Stop Life Leadership and what it takes to be great and we'll talk to him. Coming up momentarily, Scott in California. Good morning, Scott, what's on your mind?

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Speaker 1: How you doing?

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Speaker 15: Good morning, Dan, Dan ed pleasure talking to you guys, First time caller, longtime listener, coming in six three five. I'm one thousand percent back of Frity in this argument. This is one of those tell me you've never driven in California without telling me you've never driven in California. If you're already doing ten miles over the speed limit and somebody's in such a hurry, then they can race around me. I don't care by your time. It's way more dangerous to be speeding fifteen twenty miles an hour over the speed limit and pass somebody. Plus, we call those people paysetters. The cops are going to catch them before they catch us, and that's better them than us when they get pulled over.

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Speaker 4: For all right, Scott, you and Fritzy in the same lane there.

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Speaker 3: That was two hundred and twelve to three.

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Speaker 2: Dan Hurley, he's got a new memoir, Never Stop Life, Leadership and What it Takes to be Great.

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Speaker 4: Before we get to the book.

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Speaker 2: Do you want to weigh on the on this topic of driving in the fast lank What kind of driver are you?

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Speaker 11: I mean, it would probably you know, surprise people. But I'm actually a pretty calm driver. You know, my wife drives like a Jersey person. You know, I listen, I'm you should not be driving, you know, five or ten miles per hour below the speed limit in the left lane, like left left furthest lane.

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Speaker 14: Slow drivers, I you know, they're very frustrating.

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Speaker 11: I would say my biggest frustration is like when you're getting off an exit and there's a backup, when you're getting off on an exit and.

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Speaker 14: People you.

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Speaker 11: Know, where you've waited in traffic to get off an exit and people drive, you know, drive past that congestion and then cross over at the last second and don't sit and wait the ten minutes to get off the exit.

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Speaker 4: Have you been flipped off a lot?

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Speaker 14: Yeah? Yeah, a lot I'm more of But I'm not a flip off person.

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Speaker 11: Well, I think it aggravates people more when you kind of when you give them a thumbs up, like, hey, great job, you're good.

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Speaker 2: Like all right, so you're writing a memoir here and by the way, next Wednesday, October first, you can celebrate the publication of the new book. It'll be on campus the Jorgensen Center for Performing Arts. Forty dollars for adults, thirty five for Yukon students. All tickets general admission. What was the biggest challenge of being vulnerable in this book?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I would say, you know, for you know, for me, Dan, it was probably like reliving, like reliving some of the tougher parts of your life. You know, you end up reading the manuscript, you know, eight or nine times, and you make some subtle changes or some bigger changes with wording or what have you. But when you're reading those tough parts of your life, whether it's uh, you know, just my experience as a player in college, dealing with you know, some severe you know, mental health issues, serious depression, you know, the tough parts of your career and your family life, like being you know, being a young husband and a young father and dealing with uh, you know, career adversity and financial struggles. I think, like, you know, when you're when you're working on the project and you're like reading those tough parts about your life and re reading them and rereading them and rereading them, you know, it became a little bit uncomfortable. It was almost like I was re experiencing that.

00:22:09
Speaker 2: Again, your brother's one of the great point guards in college basketball history, but you felt the brunt of that. It felt like because you weren't Bobby Hurley. How do you address that that stress level being mocked and you know how that factored in with depression.

00:22:29
Speaker 14: Yeah.

00:22:30
Speaker 11: I think for me, you know that this book was you know, an opportunity, you know, to to reach people that you know suffer. You know, for me, you know, I've had an unhealthy relationship you know, with perfectionism. A lot of you know, I'm obviously I'm filled with insecurity, which is at times really a positive thing you know, to keep you striving, but at times like fear of failure. Insecurity, Uh, an unhealthy relationship with perfectionism. And I think the thing that costed me the most suffering, you know, really throughout my life, my playing career and then when I became a coach, was.

00:23:15
Speaker 14: You know, the comparison trap.

00:23:17
Speaker 11: You know that that that comparison you know, game that you play with yourself, you know, relative to others, is something that uh, you know became tortures for me as a player, you know, with with my brother, and then as a young coach, you know, with with with my dad.

00:23:35
Speaker 4: Are you satisfied? Can you be satisfied?

00:23:39
Speaker 11: Now?

00:23:41
Speaker 14: Never? Uh?

00:23:42
Speaker 12: You know.

00:23:45
Speaker 11: I don't think so, not not the way I'm wired. I think, you know, for you know, for me, it's uh, it's embedded. You know, the standard, the drive, you know, just the you know, the household you grow up in and you know, your your own competitive fire. You know that's a byproduct of where you grew up, how you were raised, Uh, the mentality you've developed, the place that you coach at, Like when you choose to coach at a place like Yukon uh and coach the basketball team here, you know, there's a constant pressure to uh, you know, to deliver you know, externally.

00:24:24
Speaker 14: But you know when that internal drive, uh, you know.

00:24:29
Speaker 11: Begins when when I start accepting losing or when I'm not devastated by a season like last year, that then you know it'll be time for me to get out.

00:24:39
Speaker 4: How close did you come to leaving college basketball recently?

00:24:44
Speaker 11: I would say for two or three days, like I was, you know, I had pretty extensive conversations you know with my guy Jordan Bizant, you know, over at Vox for a couple of days. And yeah, I mean it was it was It was like the perfect storm of things, you know, the the sport itself, not not having any idea what the rules of your game are going to be, you know, relative to you know, we're here in rumors that there's going to be potentially a fifty year for players. You know, so you've got you know, nil where you have no idea what the market is right now you have this the player is going to now be getting five years, you know, potentially five years to play five you know, there's been no restrictions relative to the portal.

00:25:33
Speaker 14: It's still free agency at the end of every year.

00:25:36
Speaker 11: And then you put on top of that, for me, you know, you go back to back, those seasons are longer, so there's a little bit of a you know, success fatigue, you know, the Lakers things happens, so your ego is at an all time high. Then you have a horrible season, and then you take the criticism throughout the year that you know, and and and a lot of times it's it's justified.

00:25:59
Speaker 14: And and so it's like the perfect storm with stuff.

00:26:03
Speaker 2: You Stan Hurley the book is never Stop, like leadership and what it takes to be great and he co wrote this with great writer Io O'Connor.

00:26:13
Speaker 4: Do you have imposter syndrome?

00:26:19
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean imposter syndrome insecurity? Absolutely, insecurity. You know, there's definitely a feeling that's been pretty embedded in me, you know, that that I'm never quite good enough.

00:26:33
Speaker 14: But it's not just relative to basketball.

00:26:36
Speaker 11: You know, I also feel that way, you know, as as a husband, as a father, in other aspects of my life. You know, I just have this, you know, mindset where I feel like like I can always I can always do more, I can always be better.

00:26:52
Speaker 14: And one of the first things that coach Calhoun told me when I got.

00:26:55
Speaker 11: The job here, you know, besides get your ass and gear, uh get this program fixed, was like, you know, the best coaches have a have a have a level of insecurity about them. That's a that's a real driver to continue to get better and and always be prepared.

00:27:13
Speaker 2: What's the difference between coaching intent or coaching angry?

00:27:22
Speaker 11: Well, I think I coached intents and in twenty twenty four and I coached angry.

00:27:29
Speaker 14: You know, like it's for me. I think in my life I've done probably.

00:27:36
Speaker 11: You know, and you know, two or three things could be true about any any any one thing. But I would say for me, I got really I got really good at handling you know, failure or struggle in my in my career and in my life in basketball. And I would say that what I've reflected a lot during the course of the season and the off season was just how I handled the success and how I didn't have the season as a coach in twenty five, you know, And I think that, you know, I'll be a much better coach in twenty six because I don't. Yeah, I don't think I handled the success, you know, and where we were as a program very well last season.

00:28:17
Speaker 2: How dark did the days get for you, whether it's when you were playing, when you left.

00:28:24
Speaker 11: Playing, Yeah, you know, dark to the point where you know you give serious consideration, you know, to doing something to harm yourself, you know, potentially do something to uh, you know, to end things, to take your life, just feeling like you know, back then it was not there was a stigma around around mental health and being vulnerable and opening up especially for men, especially for men with other men about your feelings, so with your fathers, with your coaches back then, you know, you didn't feel like there was anyone that you could talk to about how you're feeling, your struggles or your difficulties you're suffering. And you know, for me, it was you know, getting into therapy, meeting sister Katherine Waters at seat in the hall, you know, really.

00:29:22
Speaker 14: Changed my life.

00:29:24
Speaker 4: Are you built for this?

00:29:28
Speaker 14: For going on the show, I'm definitely built for I've watched you.

00:29:32
Speaker 4: For coaching ten more years, Danny?

00:29:35
Speaker 3: Are you?

00:29:36
Speaker 4: Are you built for ten more years?

00:29:38
Speaker 11: I don't know about ten I don't really you know, I think that sometimes I'll say I'm gonna coach so I'm sixty, or you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna coach, you know, just my fifty ninth year. I mean, I would like to enjoy, you know, a part of my life where I have some vitality, some health because I love my wife. I want to and I want my wife and my family to experience life outside of basketball, where you could travel and and be more of a civilian, live a more normal life, have a normal Christmas holiday in.

00:30:15
Speaker 14: A new year. So I'm like, i feel like I'm always playing.

00:30:18
Speaker 11: On New Year's or New Year's Eve, and I feel like I was going to pit my stomach on Christmas Eve or what have you. But then the other aspect of it for me is like when you're in a sports world, whether you're a player or you're a coach, and you're making the type of money that we're making, you know, I just feel like you have an obligation to literally push yourself to the point of burnout for the seven or eight million dollars a year that they pay me to coach Yukon. I should work myself close to death for that to make that type of living to be a basketball coach. Or if you're an NBA player or an NFL player making twenty thirty forty million dollars a year, you should last thing you should be thinking about as longevity. What you should be thinking about it For me, for the way I look at it, is pushing yourself to the absolute max until burnout hits and then you obviously at that point then you could retire. You know, I grew up the coaches like Dickford Meal, you know, were the coaches that that I idolized.

00:31:23
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you've got to have quality that has to be balanced.

00:31:28
Speaker 14: I've got that ahead of me.

00:31:29
Speaker 7: You know.

00:31:30
Speaker 4: No, No, you need it you need.

00:31:31
Speaker 2: Trust me, I did not have balance when I did Sports Center, and it was less stressful by far than what you're going through. And until I found some kind of balance, I didn't enjoy it. And I don't know if you enjoy those two championships as much as you probably should have, you know, the highest of highs. You're probably you know, fixated on what happened last season, and you know that's you gotta have balance, man, you.

00:31:57
Speaker 11: Gotta it's you a joy, I mean, the the like when you realize you've won the championship. There there's an uh, there's an annihilation and an indescribable feeling of joy and love. You know that that reaches you, like the deepest parts of your soul. And this this this incredible realization of this of climbing Mount Everest and being at the top, it does, it dissipates so quickly. But you know, Dan, I think with just a way that I'm wired, and I think a lot of I think you know a lot of the best coaches and the people like my dad that I've modeled. It's like the season feels a lot like suffering and relief, suffering and relief, suffering and relief and then it either ends in elation or or it ends the way.

00:32:51
Speaker 14: It ended for me in Florida versus Florida.

00:32:54
Speaker 11: And then there's the tunnel and there's the sore loser Dan.

00:33:03
Speaker 4: Yeah, do you think back on that at all? What you know? Sore loser Dan?

00:33:08
Speaker 14: I do?

00:33:09
Speaker 4: I know you address it, but you know where did that come from? Where?

00:33:13
Speaker 6: You know?

00:33:15
Speaker 4: Well, maybe it's just the competitor in you?

00:33:17
Speaker 14: It is.

00:33:18
Speaker 11: And I think again, like, you know, I think a couple of things could be true. I got to get better that way, you know, like that's something that trusts me when it's over, you know, and you know I lack that that that that self control and and and awareness to be able to just walk away, you know, Like, yeah, I mean that's disappointing. You know, I end up, you know, tarnishing my reputation and you know, like, you know, it's embarrassing and it's it's not a positive thing, but it's also too a lot of you know, my superpower that I bring to the organization is this relentless competitive drive that that my team's embody.

00:34:05
Speaker 6: Uh.

00:34:05
Speaker 11: And I do think in sports you do need more more of the characters that go I think kind of uh life or death urgency with with winning and losing.

00:34:16
Speaker 14: I think is what makes sports great.

00:34:18
Speaker 11: So I think you you know, not having characters that that look at games that you know, I don't look at it like a game. I look at it like a battle, a fight. It's not a game for me.

00:34:34
Speaker 4: Your voice sounds like it's in mid season form?

00:34:36
Speaker 14: Does it?

00:34:37
Speaker 4: Does it ever sound good?

00:34:40
Speaker 11: I mean, yesterday it was day one and uh, you know, and and I'm ready to go. And this is winter Dan. I think summer Dan, you know, is late, a little more laid back. Uh, you know, but this is the time of year where we all turn it up. I'm excited about this team. I think that this team, you know, you don't go into the year like last year. I think you have enough time with your team in the summer and in the preseason where I think going into last year there was a feeling amongst the staff that maybe we didn't have enough relative to what we put together to be able to.

00:35:20
Speaker 14: Go for the three p That will not be this team story.

00:35:24
Speaker 11: This team has enough if we give absolutely everything and if our pursuit is honorable, if it's an honorable pursuit of championships. With the way that we approach things, this team will have a chance to compete for all the championships.

00:35:41
Speaker 2: I hope the book is cathartic for you because you're visiting a lot of different places. Hopefully you don't have to revisit them anymore. But you know, when you write a memoir, you've got to dig deep down, and you certainly did in this book with the help of Ian.

00:35:58
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think Dan for me when I when I read it, you know, I always walked away from it saying, you know, like you know, your your life is kind of it's it's a little bit like a movie, you know, like you're you know, you've got this kind of a little bit not that I'm a hero, but you got this kind of a little bit of a hero's journey, and it's got all the elements.

00:36:21
Speaker 14: Of of you know, you.

00:36:23
Speaker 11: Know, your struggles becoming you know, your strength and the end and just it's a real human story of like you know, personal struggle, family struggle, career struggle.

00:36:36
Speaker 14: You know, you've got this.

00:36:36
Speaker 11: Coach, you know, with dragon underwear laying under his desk before games because.

00:36:42
Speaker 14: Of his anxiety. You know, I don't know who would play me.

00:36:46
Speaker 11: I guess I've been told like maybe a Billie Bob Thornton because of the cursing, but I don't know who would play me.

00:36:55
Speaker 4: We can work on that.

00:36:57
Speaker 2: Hopefully it's a happy ending when that movie comes out, a happy ending.

00:37:02
Speaker 4: Great to talk to you again, Thanks, thanks for sharing.

00:37:05
Speaker 14: Thanks Bro.

00:37:06
Speaker 4: That's Dan Hurley.

00:37:07
Speaker 2: The book is called Never Stop Life Leadership and What it Takes to Be Great, and he co wrote it with Ian O'Connor, who's had a couple of New York Times best sellers. It's available online September thirtieth, and once again if you're on campus at Yukon, that'll be next Wednesday and you can get more details with this. He will be at the Jorgensen Center for Performing Arts and tickets are general admission. Well take a break, Last call for phone calls, What we learn? What's in store tomorrow?

00:37:38
Speaker 4: After this?

00:37:39
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. Last call for phone calls?

00:37:52
Speaker 4: What we learn? What's in store tomorrow?

00:37:54
Speaker 2: When people talk about what's a good interview, A good interview is somebody who's willing to be interviewed, and Dan Hurley is willing to be interviewed. He's willing to be have a conversation with and talk about topics that might be uncomfortable, but you know now that they're in a book, and I appreciate his openness.

00:38:16
Speaker 4: All right.

00:38:17
Speaker 2: I have a friend who said that I take my blood pressure reading every morning. Thirty minutes ago, I was at one thirty five over seventy five. I took it again after listening to Todd's idiotic take, and now I'm at one eighty over ninety five.

00:38:32
Speaker 3: That's not a healthy number.

00:38:33
Speaker 2: You are putting people in danger. Paulie reached out to somebody during the Dan Hurley interview.

00:38:39
Speaker 5: Yeah, we found an expert, Professor Wesley Marshall, PhD and Civil Engineering at UC Denver. He is an expert and written in detail and road safety. I explained the entire situation. Professor Marshall actually listened to the segment and he said, quote, tell Fritzy to move over. He's putting others in danger, and by odds, he's putting himself in great danger by doing this.

00:39:03
Speaker 4: Okay, it's an expert, but I don't know allegedly, John, but it's.

00:39:08
Speaker 6: So dangerous to go for make the move from the left lane to the middle lane. That means if once you're in the left lane, you're.

00:39:12
Speaker 3: A staff alone, you know more than the expert. I'm saying that.

00:39:15
Speaker 6: If you have to stay in the left lane, I guess until your ride is over somehow forever until you get there.

00:39:20
Speaker 2: Stephen in Utah, Hi Stephen, Thanks Chaz Patrick?

00:39:24
Speaker 4: How are you today? Good? What do you have for me?

00:39:27
Speaker 8: I have a long time first time I'm gonna say six seven, two thirty five with my kevlar oh twenty five year uhp in Utah And Fritzy is one hundred percent in violation of code if he wants it because he is kind of that way forty one dash six. The left lane on an interstate highway is designated as a passing lane, whether it's two lanes or three lanes, that lane is only to be used to pass, And if you are driving in the left lane, you can and will be pulled over over if the cop is so inclined to get a ticket. I don't usually do it because I don't usually pull people over for going three miles over the speed limit. But if he has someone behind him and he's not merging, I will gladly pull him over and give him a ticket one hundred percent of the time.

00:40:16
Speaker 2: But Steven, if the person, let's say Todd, is going ten miles over the speed limit and the guy behind him is going to be going faster, how do you adjudicate that.

00:40:28
Speaker 8: I would, Well, when the guy's behind him, he would be doing ten. Otherwise he'd be hitting him. I would pull him over and give him a ticket and let the.

00:40:36
Speaker 3: Guy behind him go on his merry way.

00:40:38
Speaker 8: And by the way, there's one listener that ows not getting a ticket today to Fritzy because I'm sitting out here gunning people and I let someone go because I was waiting to talk to Damp.

00:40:48
Speaker 16: So there's one.

00:40:51
Speaker 8: A ticket to.

00:40:52
Speaker 4: The VP show.

00:40:54
Speaker 3: That's a quick question.

00:40:55
Speaker 4: No, we don't have time.

00:40:56
Speaker 3: I don't know what the camping speed is. What is the speed?

00:40:59
Speaker 2: I don't have time time. You've had forty five minutes on the Thank you officer. Now you want to ask.

00:41:06
Speaker 4: Got somebody out of a ticket? Though? Yeah, I know somebody got lucky Todd.

00:41:09
Speaker 6: Did you learn anything that did regardless now past you may be driving the left lane. If someone's riding your buppets, impartive to get out of their way and yield to their reckless behavior and excessive s.

00:41:17
Speaker 4: You did not learn anything today, Seaton. I think my ride home today might be more interesting.

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00:41:41
Speaker 4: I'm tired. I need a nap uh.

00:41:45
Speaker 2: For Fritz Seaton Marv PAULI yours truly in the back room. Guys, we'll talk to you tomorrow. Have a great day.

00:41:52
Speaker 4: Drive safely,