Ty Dolla $ign on 'Tycoon' album, Kanye West & 'Vultures,' Lady Gaga & R&B eras

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm a little bit off the weird ship now you know what I'm saying, Little artists acting with like and all that ship.

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Speaker 2: Ship. Can you give us an example, what.

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Speaker 3: Up artist is Joe Crack your boy, Jada kiss know what it is that Joe and Jadens show every show legendary, every show iconic and we keep our word to you with just that today. You gotta give it up our guests. He's the hook master, he's the song master. He could talk your lady out of draws if you let him.

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Speaker 2: He can give you. He can bring you back if you.

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Speaker 3: Searching for a hit, if you need some help, just getting help, get your career off the ground or back off the ground, or whatever you need musically, he's the go to guy.

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Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen. Make some noise for our brother Todd dollars sign.

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Speaker 1: How do you like that?

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Speaker 2: I love that love.

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Speaker 1: That's actually the best intro So fun, yo, let me tell you something. That was a hell of a fucking intro right there.

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Speaker 2: Like it was all facts as well.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes he leaves off a little. It's all facts your time. Sometimes he you know, he tries to go to humble. I'm like, yo, bro, we just had hit Boy. There alchemists in my world that's like fucking baked Hoven and most sart there. I'm like, yo, hold on, let's just call it baked over. The boats off for these guys are phenomenal, But we have Todd Dollars sign who could have been a member of Boys to Bend, could have been a could have been a member of Guy, would have been a member of Jodasy. I think you're the only artist because, believe it or not, you've been in the game in a while, but you're still the relevant youth artists. Yeah, nobody looks at you like yo. You know, you're the only one that I could just mention and say, yo, he could have been in one of these legendary groups. What's that like it Did you come up listening to these guys?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely came up listening to them guys. And even further back, my pops was in the group Lake Side, so fantastic for you exactly exactly from from there, and even before that.

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Speaker 2: God Slipping Side, the Father was in that group. Yeah, that's so.

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Speaker 4: I've been like studying all the different R and B styles, the rock styles, the hip hop styles, and all that applies to what I'm doing today.

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Speaker 3: When you was young, you was able to meet Prince Earth winning fire.

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Speaker 2: Yeah what did that spark? What did that do for you? Musical DNA?

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Speaker 4: I mean they put me onto the greatest music possible, you know what I mean? So, like I said, all that still applies to what I'm doing today.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: You could just reach back into the files and be like, oh yeah, let's use that center, let's use that that wrist or whatever case.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: You want to know what's crazy is you know what I'm type with cooling Dray and I remember, you know Dre makes hooks, and one day Dre made a hook that nobody could say No, he did.

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Speaker 2: That Brown babeer bag.

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Speaker 1: And we try to get every top singer and the user universe at the time for call it. Nobody could nobody could have hit didn't want to.

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Speaker 2: It was no.

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Speaker 1: It was like a reference. But we used whoever was the hottest guys at the time. It was Callis Single. We was trying to get him on there and they couldn't hit that note. Pause, right, I feel like you there's nothing you can't do like you could, like nobody could give you a reference that you.

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Speaker 2: Can't do that. Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy because some people be like, yo, I can't for sure for sure?

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Speaker 4: Like I said, if it wasn't for Pops for real man and all that put me onto all that old stuff. It's like I always tried to mimic every single thing, starting back from what you said Prince Earth Went and Fire. That's some very high notes, you know what I'm saying. I may not be able to get way up there, but I'll figure it out. You get it, like, yeah, I'll turn my voice into a chipmunk if I have to.

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Speaker 1: That's really crazy.

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Speaker 3: The first solo project in nearly four years, Tykoon, Yeah, what made you want to.

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Speaker 2: Pull a trigger? Right now? What was? What told you? I'm always doing music.

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Speaker 4: I was gonna put out a solo project before I started The Vultures are Era, you know what I'm saying, And now it's time for the solo project. So Tycoon ten seventeen. There's fifteen tracks on there. If you buy the album, then you get to extra bonus tracks banger after banger after banger or something for everybody. Man, I look at my ship My album's like a restaurant. You know what I'm saying. It's like I got something on the menu for everybody exactly.

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Speaker 1: You gotta have. Every restaurant I go to, I'm like, Yo, what's the Big Mac?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Now you're going to McDonald's. You need the Big the Big Mac. Been the Big Mac been paying the rent for a long time. You go to Burger King, It's a whopper, right, something pays the bills all the time. So I go to a restaurant, I say, listen, man, it's my first time here. What's your big I need the Big Mac? What's the best ship that? Everybody? Somebody is coming in there every night. They want that fish, they want that. It's always something. Yeah, you know he's saying he got fifteen big Max on that album and two free if you purchase the album right now.

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Speaker 3: Look, we got featureds of Mean on Kodak Black YG I meanyg always make fire join question? Well Leon Thomas, that's take your that's him okay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Leon Thomas also signed in my label. He was our first artist we signed to Easy Money Record. Shout out to my brother Sean.

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Speaker 2: The money over there.

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Speaker 1: They don't start bragging about no money. Jay to get real fucking mad.

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Speaker 2: You're getting a lot of money over that.

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Speaker 1: Even start racking about money, that motherfucker be like, yo, man, y'all get too much money.

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Speaker 2: He's the first artist on your leg. He was the first artist on the label.

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Speaker 1: What's the song? What's the song again?

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Speaker 2: Ship number one?

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Speaker 4: That number one, rhythmic game on one all type of other ship. He got a new record that just reached number eleven or Hot one hundred. So wow, moving man. Shout out to the other four artists that we just signed.

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Speaker 1: Who's off before artists? Lets give me a shot.

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Speaker 2: You got r J.

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Speaker 4: The Widow, you got Keith Turner, you got Busy Crook Major, and you got saves from Texas Man.

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Speaker 2: Everybody on the labels crazy for sure.

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Speaker 1: I know you know so much, you know music so much, and with them being talented, y'all just sitting together plotting on music, it's gonna be incredible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. You know, le Jada, what area you went?

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Speaker 1: Because you know, I jump all over the place asking.

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Speaker 2: How is it having your own label? Like what's the do you like it? So far?

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Speaker 4: I like it because I basically get to bless back and everything that happened to us as artists when we saw mistakes. I get to make sure that them same mistakes don't happen this way ways that I feel like we should have been getting paid and somebody was fucking us Ober, I ain't gonna do that to the next people. Like certain people will be like, oh, this happened to me, so that's what you're supposed to do, And I'm like, nah, man, like, let's clean this shit up.

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Speaker 3: You know that's just right? Yeah, somebody rated and they said somebody rating on me. Then it turned.

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Speaker 1: It turned into a dem How we just get on the rats that fast? Nah, we just But what he's trying to say is that's my vision. But you know people always used to say artist ship signed the artist. My vision was always we got who can help you better than the artists. We made all those mistakes, so we're trying to guide you so you don't make the mistakes. I mean, I'm all in with that.

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Speaker 2: Easy money is the name of the label.

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Speaker 4: Easy Money, the name of the label, lebon Ar John the name of the champagne.

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Speaker 2: I mean, good money.

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Speaker 1: Signs the money to the champagne. It sound like it's from France and order it is. It can't be Champagne for them from Frances, right right, Jady, you got you got? I mean, you know it is what it is. We got the documentary coming soon. It's called Still Free TC.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 4: Sure, you get to see the whole lifespan and tied out a sign from the beginning until now, the ups and downs. I mean, people only get to see the good ship. But it's it's time. You get to see the family. You get to see everything I went through coming up, growing up in South Central and making it to the levels that we're at now.

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Speaker 2: And and even it's you know, it's still struggle now.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying that you got to go through to to get to the next level, because there's always a level I'm trying to reach.

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Speaker 2: I ain't comfortable. You know.

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Speaker 1: The elephant in the room is what's it like doing a project with Kanye West?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in the middle.

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Speaker 1: Because I feel like you stood tall with them when people ain't want to stand next to them at the time. Yeah, And you was in Crazy Kanye tr like you was in that there. Yeah, like at the ship, the what and in the flames of the Flames What's it? What made you say I'm a stand with this man, we're gonna make music, because we know how that shit be with somebody be into some hot shit, everybody run away? Yeah, what made you say, Nah, this is the time, I'm gonna hold my man down and I'm gonna make music with him. And what is that whole ship? Like that whole time when it.

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Speaker 4: Come to making music, you already know what what to do with him, you know what I'm saying, Like just from the track record and then y'all see what happened with us. The music is the music vocals were number one, you know what I'm saying. So it was a a success. A lot of people say whatever they say, but I stick to my guns. I made one of the best musical projects ever. Like you say that at the intro when you want, when it comes to music, you come to me.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. And I did that over there, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: All the bullshit six seven you know what I'm saying, it's not even worth talking about.

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Speaker 2: Get you with the sixth sellers?

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Speaker 1: You know that shit. Yeah, But what I'm trying to say is, you know when I recorded I recorded one song with Kanye. He made me do my first with four hundred people on the hook. But you and there you bless me on that hug man, but it ain't about the bunny. I don't really care what you said. Four hundred people on the hook.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So we did a joint Friday, fifty people on the hook, A fifty It was you, it was bust. The most death was mad people, mad people before it came out or.

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Speaker 2: No, he made the hook.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he had some genius idea that he heard different vocals and he made mad people say.

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Speaker 2: It came out hard or not.

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Speaker 1: Came out great, but it was already a hit, right, so it was like, I'm coming right off of the Chris Brown another round. You know when you on fire, you got that extra that your ears like. Okay, So we had a joint that we did with Bink and Rico Love and then Kanye was like, yo, y'all want to work with you now he's one of my favorite artists of all. Sorry, it's a genius. So I said great. He said, what you thinking? You dropped it and then I play it for me. He says, I got Somebodyea. He turned the whole song around, right, So it was like, just think another round part too. We already had the dope hook. This this he turned the hip hop and he was like, even if none of by the money, he put everybody in their mother on the hook. So it was like ten of us, fifteen of us on the hook. But the point I'm saying is I was in the studio. Man, he saved my sir. He made me say my verse maybe a hundred times in the world, be like colder sack, colder shack, colder shack. I'm like, look, yeah, you know, I'm like, y'all, I got the Kanye Wiz. At the time, I might have been the only dude that ever lost with the nigga.

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Speaker 2: Like you know what I'm saying because.

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking everything he does wins. He's over there. That was a good show. Yeah, but you know, I want the supremacy, you know what it is. And then he goes on I want to be number one. You know how that ship go. And then I go to man go, he make me take off. I'm independent, by the way, I've been independent for fifteen years. So I pay for my videos, my samples, my songs, my everything. I pay for everything. The man won a fucking Hype William video. We shoot a Hype William video. Hype William. I swear to god. He came with a flashlight. Hype William came with like a regular camera and I paid hundreds of thousands and he had the flashlight on us while we was like, you talk about getting jerked in your face.

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Speaker 2: Like you do.

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Speaker 1: Pass yo, You know how money I pay for? This ship came with a flashlight. Yeah, you think of Hype Williams. You're gonna float now and.

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Speaker 2: All that shit. Man came with the flashlight. I'm looking.

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Speaker 1: Then I go and then the only thing trying to remember this video. Oh yeah, pride to drug we got you.

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Speaker 2: Stop you sty.

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Speaker 1: Oh y're listen your tie. That man made me use Hype Williams. All right, so I'm just saying I'm independent. Right, it's a lot of money. But not only that. The only thing he ever charged me for was his wardrobe. I walked by the fucking his wardrobe. He got seven thousand dollars tank tops and ship man I used to rob supermarkets. Be my fucking problem.

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Speaker 2: With this ship.

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Speaker 1: You hear me, like a tank top seven thousand dollars. I'm walking through it from France. Just right, what's the hostage, Dade.

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Speaker 3: That's a lot of charge, just expensive and the expenses is fun.

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Speaker 1: Who bro, I went through that wardrobe. I was walking out that shit twitch and like, yo, who's paying for this?

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Speaker 2: You are?

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Speaker 1: This is the wardrobe, the separate wardrobe on this man boy hit me with a fucking ham on my I.

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Speaker 2: Said, he come over there. You remember what the bill was.

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Speaker 1: He was about forty nine fifty thousand. But the problem is this wardrobe. If a man came with some boat tager, he toll he was tank tops. Bro, I'm not exaggerating, Like, who the fuck want to pay seven thousand and fourteen. Time I'm looking at the show, I said, this shit unreal. It's gonna be number one Joe even I even lost, because you know, you gotta put down a radio budget. Look, I'm a radio like I go for the home run. I don't play right. So I put down the radio budget. Couple one hundred thousand out my pocket, and the ship the work, and I doubled down on the radio. It's the only record in the world I ever paid twice for the radio. But I move down on the bitch. I was like, no, this ship gotta go stick with the program. I was like, no, what yo, bro, I took that. I took a big albu but I was happy I got to work with him. But you know, yeah, nobody ever made me shoot say the verse one hundred times.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy.

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Speaker 1: So I know what that was like you working with the men.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I never had to say it verse one hundred times. But bang, I heard other people say the same story.

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Speaker 2: For sure. He did that.

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Speaker 4: That's that producer ship though. You know, it's like to he here's what he's looking for. Yeah, he's doing. I'm a producer as well though, so it's like play every instro right, yeah, correct, Yeah, so your father torture. The only thing I don't play is like brass and woodwinds and shit like that. But bass, guitar, keys, drums, make the beats, write the song, produce the song, engineered a song.

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Speaker 2: Whatever you want to do, promote the movie, promote all that emotions. That's all. That's all the extra ship. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: That's like, you know, which we creatives, we want to make the ship, see it going. And then they're like, all right, now you gotta go promote the show. You gotta kiss babies and fucking like nobody promoted a.

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Speaker 4: Few people just think it's just going to the studio and make a song and that's it.

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Speaker 3: It's way way bigger than that. But show with the joint with Kodak. How how was it making that?

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Speaker 2: Uh? It was easy.

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Speaker 4: Me and Kodak had another song on my album. He was like, yo, man, I really want to use this song for my album like that. At the last fucking minute, I'm like, all right. He was like, don't ship. I got you in another one, and he sent me that that might be better than the other one. But we're gonna see. It's a'm about to drive next him. You're gonna have another one on there. But uh yeah, man, shout out to Kodak. As soon as I did my part, I'm like, okay, this gotta be the one that because I didn't have YG on the album, but I was looking for one. But I'm like, all right, it's perfect because it feel west it feel west side, but you know, it's still got all all the other elements and shit, So why g hopped on the here and here we are a small body, pretty face.

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Speaker 1: It's all right now, I mean, let me tell you something, brother. Man, you don't work with some characters. Man, you just you're just a safe place. They see you as a safe place. But man, I've just been a big fan.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: I love when you bless me with the me and Reny with the money showers.

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Speaker 2: That's a classic right there, money showers, Rain, Rain, Rain, a whole lot of money shows.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for having me on that joint too. What Yeah, that shit fire right there.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, Man, you never let me down. Man, you always come through.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 1: You're you're You're a really great guy, man, a great great person.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: But I want to make sure you get your flowers. I'm sure your fans know that too, because you you managed to stay out of controversy and all that bull shaite. You know what I'm saying. Everybody feel like they got to be But here on this podcast, we just celebrate, you know, we preserve the culture, you.

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Speaker 2: Know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: You know a lot of other people like to just deal with the controversy. She had what what's the shit to say? To be fucked up or whatever the case may be.

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Speaker 2: But we don't do that. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: The documentary, Oh you showed it at the Tribeca Film festival. Yeah, I showed it by the time the lights came on. Man, you've seen tears, You've seen just everybody ready to Free TC. Like what can I do? So in the documentary it shows my whole life coming up. Some of y'all know if you're a real Tire Dollar Sign fan. My first album was called Free TC because my little brother locked up for a murder that everyone in the city knows he didn't do, and the witness that said he did it originally came back and said she was coerced. Nothing has happened since then, and he's just been in that situation.

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Speaker 2: We all know that he's not the only one. That this is happening too.

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Speaker 4: Is people all over and I use that first album to bring awareness to that situation, and we're still in this situation. So I wanted to give you more of a visual than just songs, so people could really fuck with it and really feel it, and maybe that would give me to who I need to get to, because I feel like in this life, like what really matters is who you know, You know what I mean, That's like a lot of people out here that it's going to tell you whatever to get your money, keep.

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Speaker 2: It real with you.

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Speaker 1: You my brother, and you've been ten thousand with me here. We don't do the politics. You need to get next to somebody who knows Donald Trump. Yeah, you might be right next to Kodak Black. He know who to talk to. You know what I'm saying. Right there, he got he got to be for me, Collins, Robbie Drafts all somebody. I'm telling you the truth, like Bill Taul. If your brothers really are innocent, you got these people right around you, like Kodak Black, know who the fuck to talk to? You should ask him who you talk to? Who is your lawyer? Who represented you? And that's where you go, and you are correct. It's all about time, brother in the stick.

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Speaker 4: No, that's it, that's it. I don't know why I didn't think of that. I consider myself a very smart person, but I didn't. I don't know how the fuck I didn't think of that. So you know, Black, no who to talk to? No, that's it for sure. Definitely gonna make that after you.

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Speaker 1: Know that he ain't that crazy crazy he's smalling up behind that wall. He said, Yo, go get Roger Watson Thorpe, that motherfucker, get.

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Speaker 2: Me out of jail.

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Speaker 1: Hell yeah, ship, Hell yeah, that's what you gotta get.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 1: I'm just telling you that you free game.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, TC man free TC that's crazy.

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Speaker 1: And the documentary you know, like me, I don't have people filming me and ship like that. I don't really trust nobody. So how hard is that for you to have people filming you? I purposely, I think I would have some fire content if I had a camera man with you all day. But I be and y'all step and shit on the times.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Try to keep them makes away from me.

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Speaker 2: Bro, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: But you did it in purpose of a documentary one day.

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Speaker 4: It's just been I've been getting filled my whole life for real, and I'm sure you have as well. And it was just like getting all that footage, you know, from the kids shit all the way till now. And then two thousand and thirteen fourteen, I really had a guy like following me on certain shit and put all that footage together, made a timeline, put in story form, did some narration, and now you got a documentary. You know, got my mom in there, got my pops in there. Of course, got the calls with my brother, got the lawyers, got the whole story, you know what I mean. I still got to come back right now and put my sister in there, because once I watched the whole thing, then.

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Speaker 2: She called like, oh I'm not a documentary. I'm like, oh fuck, I can't leave nobody else. You can't leave nobody else prety happy.

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Speaker 1: It don't work that way.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it don't work that way. But I got to put my sister. I know you said, got to.

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Speaker 2: Put it in there. I'm just trying to say.

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Speaker 1: We talk all the time, we be like yo, you just in life, you just can't make everybody happy.

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Speaker 2: You can't. And she was in here too, but she just didn't get it. It wasn't enough she got it it. She needed to get it, get it.

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Speaker 1: I remember I did something big, like an award show, and I got one of my brothers in there, and just I thought, it felt like you are keeping it real with his day one is day one is there. I got the phone calls from people so mad that I have my man front row, like because they wasn't there this and you don't you know that. I was like, it is some scandalous ship. But I'm like, yo, all I try to do was show love and let you know yo. Fat Joe might be on this level, but he didn't forget the day once and that turned into all other They on as tight as a fuck.

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Speaker 2: No, that's how it goes.

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Speaker 4: Can't make nobody happy, That's how it goes. From homies to family, all that shit. It'd be crazy, bro in this.

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Speaker 6: Music ship if you do, damn if you know, I just want to take all my money and move to a island and change my number and leave me the fuck alone.

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Speaker 1: Let me eat a mango on the beach.

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Speaker 4: I thought about doing that. A couple of targets. Bro, they got a castles and motherfuckings. I heard they got two million dollar castles and ship. You're a nigga, could be a duke. You could be for yourself a castle.

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Speaker 1: Gonna mind your business man, because it's like, get up out of here, like the motherfuckers. You ever felt like they're trying to bust your like I be feeling like they're trying to like dead ass bust my brain open, like with all the bullshit that come at you and everybody's insensitive and you going through this you're going through that. They don't give a fuck you.

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Speaker 2: And make that I don't care about us.

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Speaker 1: They don't give a fuck. If you're high pressure, your blood pressure high, they they want to crack your ship.

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Speaker 7: Jack.

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Speaker 2: You know what, you know what we care about us.

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Speaker 1: I'm ready to make my will and all my money go to the fucking the kids choir of Memphis, Tennessee. Some ship I never even met.

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Speaker 2: They're not the right.

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Speaker 1: Set the whole family around and be like a to the animal preservation of Congo. Found Joe left. All the money they gonna.

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Speaker 2: Pay, They're gonna go crazy, man, they gonna go crazy.

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Speaker 1: Shit gonna click up. It's gonna be somebody out of even fucking don't to the Scandon Navy and kids in the Catholics all the fucking money.

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00:27:45
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00:27:45
Speaker 4: I like it, man, I love it when I ain't gonna lie. When I knew I was about to have a daughter, I was scared of shit. Of course, house I figure out twenty years are doing at nineteen, I know.

00:28:03
Speaker 2: You know exactly how it is.

00:28:04
Speaker 4: So look twenty She just started at Pepperdine University twenty one and ten pepper Done University.

00:28:11
Speaker 2: To get her master's degree. So yeah, you did the math.

00:28:14
Speaker 4: She already got her BA at Sea Son, and uh when she graduated high school. The same week she graduated high school, she graduated from Pierce Community College as well, because she was already taking classes during high school the.

00:28:27
Speaker 2: Same week, same week. Bro wow.

00:28:29
Speaker 4: So she went and did the two years at a Sea Son, graduated from there a couple months back, and I started at Pepperdine to get her masters. So I'm super proud of her, and I've been talking about her every day, man, just like doing what we do and to be able to have your daughter like go all the way to that level and have that focus around you know what I'm saying, fucking big did. Because I've seen a lot of kids in her position with parents like us that just lean on the parents.

00:29:01
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

00:29:02
Speaker 4: I know most of the yeah, most of them, and that's like, that's not it.

00:29:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, y'all hear us. Motherfuckers.

00:29:15
Speaker 1: Give me with my son, he's way more mature now, graduated college to thank god. But I remember he showed me one day, he said, Dad, you know who this is? And look, I really didn't know. He's a kid walking on the G four was doctor Dreson. He was like, real boss, his sons are moving. I said, man, if you don't get the fuck up off my face, nigga, we are not Doctor dre You are fat Joe on a fat Joe's salary, motherfucker. Get out of here, like yo, like nigga man. Even now, so even now I'm I'm a little older. So when they booked me for after party or something, the crowd in the club, yo, my man, a fly as soldier you ever seen in your life. I don't have it dough that sea. So I'm redefining the spectrum of Lloyd's London. Don't get this shit fucked up. I know what I'm doing to him. I'm putting belt to that ass. The youth staated like damn oh gee he Anyway, sometimes I do the after party or whatever, and it's mad young kids, mad young kids. Yeah, nineteen twenty twenty one, this and that, and they jumping on the couch a hundred bottles. They just paring spending their parents money. There's just no fucking way they earn't that money hopping a hundred buck, yo, bro. I was in Dubai like two three weeks in a whow ship. You know what for sure when I said my money kicks, Yeah yeah, it was Elsa Salamaka my brothers, mister Ali Kashani, I am Ali ka Shani. You know out there, I got a whole nother name shining.

00:31:01
Speaker 2: You know. I go to the mall.

00:31:03
Speaker 1: I drink me a little cup of you know, I don't really drink, so I drink a cup of coffee and Chippyanni and I just people watch and I tell a lot of jokes in my head. I don't tell people. But anyway, I'm performing. I'm performing. They put you upstairs and you look down and the type of ship they.

00:31:27
Speaker 2: Yo, bro.

00:31:30
Speaker 1: Yo, they popping so many bottles. It's just not there's no way they could drink it, even if you got a group of ten guys, ten girls, two hundred bottles of crystal laces spade.

00:31:41
Speaker 2: This the ship is.

00:31:43
Speaker 1: And I'm looking over the thing because you know, I like the ball.

00:31:47
Speaker 2: But I'm like, I'm you know, puss plus no no, I let you know. I spend money.

00:31:55
Speaker 1: It's my problem. But I have the problem. I spend money. But I'm looking at this ship the like from u K. They bring flags out bidgits with fucking bottles, this big old type of shit. I'm looking at this ship. I'm like, your way, the fuck is this is this big coin?

00:32:12
Speaker 2: Big?

00:32:13
Speaker 1: It's this big coin? Is this fucking What the fuck are they doing out here?

00:32:19
Speaker 2: Right on? Some shit?

00:32:20
Speaker 3: Man?

00:32:21
Speaker 4: Ma hommy Destructo here DJ in the house world or whatever. His son nineteen years old. This nigga just brought his first Porsche Nigga all that off of crypto. Before that, he was selling sneakers and shit. Now legit everything fully like balling on these niggas. I don't even take it. I don't even like let people try to like make this Jueses Bros. Because I say, the nineteen year old do it. It's like levels, Yeah, the level. They looking like BMF in the club right now and this shit. You look at them as little kids, and I'm just like, they doing a lot. They're doing too much.

00:32:57
Speaker 1: I hope they don't. I hope they save a dollar one day because the ship they doing and they got this thing where they go on the thing right they got they got like a no no, they got like a teleprompter right and they'd be like the UK boys is in the building, fuck you broke mother, like they could text. Theyre having bottle wars in Dubai Club Blue. I swear shut out to see it. And they like a guy who just bought the forty bottles. He's like, fuck the other side the UK. And then they come back Afghanistans say suck Mike Dick one hundred bottles like yo, I'm looking at this ship.

00:33:36
Speaker 2: I'm sitting there. I'm trying to yo, bro I'm trying to go. I'm trying out here, nigga, stop drinking champagne out here for a bottle.

00:33:45
Speaker 1: My family doesn't understand I'm trying to go home with a dollar when I crossed the border to a different territory. I'm trying to actually come back to pay the morgin. If I bring them, they gonna blow the whole bag in the like immediately. The minute it goes like this, I've been say, were in the assless hotel. The minute wife is a bunk Atlantis, sweet of a lifetime for seasons, the whole floor, the whole ship. Change what restaurant I could go to a fucking charge Lama's place to go get some fucking shor Lama. Now it turns into me loos, give me the table by the fucking water.

00:34:29
Speaker 2: Yo.

00:34:29
Speaker 1: Look, look how about you guys don't come and I bring home the money right then you can shop the whatever you want to do. How about please don't come because I spend more than I'm going to make.

00:34:43
Speaker 2: Does this makes sense?

00:34:46
Speaker 1: It's shit crazy out.

00:34:47
Speaker 2: There right now. They going they're doing a big and duba for sure.

00:34:52
Speaker 1: And so your daughter she got the she got the diplomas, and there that's the pepa.

00:34:56
Speaker 2: Do listen, that's all we get.

00:34:59
Speaker 1: Pray for it's kids to be successful and do good in life. I mean, that's the American dream. And you blessed man. It's good she level headed because she's going for the masters.

00:35:10
Speaker 2: Ye, she's she's shocked. No, she's it.

00:35:14
Speaker 1: And the guys, the guys is like they want to date TI dollars daughter. No, we ain't even getting Yeah, we ain't doing.

00:35:25
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, yeah we want. I'll try to touch. Got to stay focused.

00:35:30
Speaker 1: I got to tell you, boy, I kill these motherfuckers out here. Man, they got we got the track of One day my daughter in the summer, she was a little bit too much in hall them. I was like, oh, what's going on? This ship was like three in the morning and SI, I'm ready to put my clothes on. I'm like, yo, the trackers just hall of them? Since Washington, what the fuck is going all over? You remember that set of calling it going to Washington nights, going to hall and call it.

00:35:57
Speaker 4: She definitely had a long time boyfriend though, and like how I looked at it because people would be like, oh, so what do you think about this?

00:36:04
Speaker 2: Da? I was always like bringing, always like I'm not gonna like reject it.

00:36:10
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna like make her feel like she can't talk to me about it, or make her feel like weird about you know what I'm saying.

00:36:16
Speaker 2: So I was always like I didn't understand it was doing.

00:36:21
Speaker 3: You always gotta they always gotta be able to talk to you.

00:36:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, they see somebody else to talk to.

00:36:26
Speaker 1: Then hated me. She brings boys to the house. I had a bat right there, Like, really, I see you with my sister. This is how I was like. I always scared off all of her boyfriends. Yes, but then when my daughter git there with the bat, chase them home all type of one, sister, I don't think she was happy with me.

00:36:45
Speaker 2: Recipeace, I know my sister. I don't think my.

00:36:47
Speaker 1: Sister was happy with me because I did too much. Man, we was chasing all type of shit. Yo, you ever talk to my sister again, beef. I'm telling you, like right and literally with the bat by the dude is sitting there, she said in there, and I'm like they playing happy Days and shit like that, and I'm like Sunday, Monday, Happy Days and I got the baseball ball Like boy, I'm gonna tell you, but the thing is my daughter, I've been very.

00:37:14
Speaker 2: Respectful happy day.

00:37:17
Speaker 1: I've been very respectful of whatever she's doing, very supportive, and it's hard sometimes every now and then when I get into it with the family, I just be like, look, guys, I'm doing some shit I never dreamed in my life that I would do. I'm being so understanding. Yeah, like you know what I mean, Like as a dad, you're just like, yo, I'm really being understanding. Like please don't start with me because I'm you know, but it's you know, it is they say. Once the communication goes, yeah, it's over.

00:37:51
Speaker 4: And I feel like back then it was a different way we was, the world was, and we was being taught.

00:37:56
Speaker 2: We was taught to be that way.

00:37:58
Speaker 4: And then now the way the world is is like he's supposed to have this is we will be more not so judging.

00:38:04
Speaker 2: Not so.

00:38:05
Speaker 7: They switched it from this ship instilled in the uninstilled it in the new genuine. Yeah, we gotta give him around the applause for being a Billboard power player.

00:38:19
Speaker 2: I mean, he's doing ship.

00:38:21
Speaker 1: He is the biggest we're not talking about.

00:38:23
Speaker 2: Dang, right, that's it, that's new, that's a new thing. Billbore problem recognize.

00:38:28
Speaker 4: Yeah, they recognized us, gave us award me, my brother, Sean Baron and Leon Thomas for our Labelzy everything we've done this year.

00:38:39
Speaker 3: He's doing Ship he deserves it, doing Ship Corner October seventeenth when it's free. He's documentary going up that's coming out right after that. Okay, make sure y'all check out everything he drops.

00:38:55
Speaker 2: Ye see documentaries. If you are feeling we're talking before, you used to keep going on, I'm.

00:39:02
Speaker 1: Promote you cutting them off too quick?

00:39:06
Speaker 2: Man, You ain't letting them promote, you know.

00:39:09
Speaker 1: Man, I'm a dog.

00:39:13
Speaker 2: I'm a dog, got my mutt.

00:39:15
Speaker 1: Leon Thomas Man, come y'all, Todd Dollar, who you work with that you possibly could, But because like I said, you hear so many generations with your style of music. Right now, you just did vultures with the young kids, just they losing their sneakers, jumping up and down to that ship. But at the same time, I told you, I hear Jo Tosy, I hear Aaron Hall, I hear who you worked with that. You was like, yo, like, oh, this is unbelievable. I got don't believe I got the chance to work in the studio with somebody like that.

00:39:51
Speaker 4: Oh it's a younger people. I made a song with Mariah Carry before MC. I made a song with Fat Show before no who else like a Ganga but Leon like when it like when it comes to now. Meeting Leon and working with him was like Wow. That was the first time I said wow in a long time because it was it just felt like me again, but on a whole other level, Like he's fucking engineering, he's producing, he's writing, he's making beats for everybody else, he's writing, writing songs for everybody else. Uh, just doing so much for everybody else, but at the same time being incredible himself. And nobody liked, really, oh that shit's too soul fullest to this, this to that, I'm like, nah, this is it, you know what I mean? And Sean Baron agreed. We started the Easy Money label and look uh. We put out the first album that had this song featured me, called Love Jones, and the album was cool. He was starting to get recognition, but there was no real hit off of that. And then you start getting the calls, well, baby Tyd, you could give them one of those club songs, and you could give them one of them or something like that, and I actually hit them with it, and then like an hour later. It might have been a shorter time, but I called them back immediately, like my nigga, no, no, no, no, no, fuck that stick to you.

00:41:18
Speaker 2: You know what the fuck you're doing. You don't need to try nothing else. Just do your shit.

00:41:22
Speaker 4: And look, man, we got a smash record with no sequencer, all live music, live drums, live bass, live guitar, live streams, live everything.

00:41:31
Speaker 2: So shout out to that, man. Stick to yourself. That's all you gotta do.

00:41:36
Speaker 1: Some of the artists you respect, because we definitely have a different sound in R and B today, yeah, than we have in the nineties. I feel like the nineties was the greatest time for R and B with one of the gritties something, we're.

00:41:51
Speaker 2: Going all the way. You got that in your age bracket. But yeah, because I'll be looking at like the seventies is the best R and B? Might be right, might beat?

00:42:03
Speaker 4: I got a Lowrider and all that shit. So I'm always like listening to the older ship and.

00:42:07
Speaker 1: That's like your dad's a yeah. But my point is, now, yeah, who's what artists?

00:42:14
Speaker 2: You don't make it R and B Right now? I feel like it's about to do that again. When I went to the Be and My Awards.

00:42:22
Speaker 4: Recently, they had a whole bunch of new artists performing, and everybody that performer at that motherfucker was incredible. Sounded like this time like young Motherfucker's up there playing guitars, singing, going crazy, hitting all the crazy notes, captivating the crowd, making everybody stand up. I'm like, oh, it's time again, you know, and people take care. Anybody you haven't worked with that, you want to work with?

00:42:46
Speaker 2: Shit, I want to work with Lady Goga. I never just own Lady Goga.

00:42:50
Speaker 1: She wanted the greats, she wanted a great So, you know, I'm a little bit off the weird ship now, you know what I'm saying what you said, I'm not saying she's a little weird. She is definitely very, very talented. I'm not reframing off music, you know, like and all that ship. I'm like, yo, you know what, I'm a little off that.

00:43:13
Speaker 2: What's you what.

00:43:19
Speaker 1: Artists acting with like and all that ship?

00:43:24
Speaker 2: That ship? Can you give us an example? Who what is that?

00:43:32
Speaker 1: Oht know, you're trying to jam me up. I can't say that it's one of the biggest artists of today. But I've watched her perform recently and I was just like, yo, you know what, I'm kind of off trying to act like all that ship like that was cute maybe when Nicki Minaj started that, But just stop act trying to act crazy like this. Just you're very talented. Your music could speak for itself, you know what I'm saying. And so, you know, some artists get caught up in that, just like fashion, like just could you dress weird? Don't mean you fly?

00:44:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been.

00:44:06
Speaker 1: Seeing motherfuckers now just walking looking weird and they think they fly. It's like, no, dude, you're fucking weird. Though that's not a goal. You understand what I'm saying. So I just feel like just doing too much necessary. Somebody I respect very much in R and B right now was Kaylney. I feel like she could have did it in the Brandy Monica errow. You know what I'm saying. That's what I'm looking for. I'm looking for real music.

00:44:36
Speaker 2: Kate been doing her ship for a long time, and I'm happy to see her.

00:44:40
Speaker 4: Well, she got a number one record now right or it's almost number one, it's top five for sure.

00:44:45
Speaker 1: I don't want to Charles no more. I'm old school.

00:44:47
Speaker 4: I feel you on that, But like you said in the beginning, you're looking for that supremacy, Rightmacy.

00:44:54
Speaker 1: Voice, her tone, that music that folded that this this, that's that's Brandy.

00:45:00
Speaker 2: We had Brandy and Monica.

00:45:03
Speaker 4: It's like the locks of mall d Yeah.

00:45:08
Speaker 1: Brandy, Monica. You know, we had all fucking one twelve. What is this numbers in the fucking I don't have a reason, like we had some ship. And the problem I have is and it's the same problem with young hip hop too. It's like everybody is.

00:45:30
Speaker 2: He's off.

00:45:32
Speaker 1: Everybody just wanted one to hit. Everybody wanted one to hit. They don't want that that real ship the last ten twenty years and all that.

00:45:41
Speaker 4: And that's been the problem with music lately, especially with rap music. I feel like, take a wave. Yeah, somebody said it the other day. It's like it used to be. It was like it was Sahai the Prince he was talking about back in the day. He used to be the real rap niggas, and he used to be the street niggas, and then now the street niggas want to be the rap niggas and ship you mean that.

00:46:01
Speaker 1: In the street niggas like the street. Niggas from the street want a rape. Man, I've seen fifty y old rap talk off the cliff, fifty yells. Real niggas bust. They gun put out a single. Nigga case slave used to call me, be like Yo, get your man's and now I'm talking about gangs. Got twenty years in jail. Real dudes. This this that, all of a sudden put out a single or something. I'm like, Yo, my man. They used to call me like the gangs, the police like they would call me and be like, yo, Joe, talk to them. They don't want to lose the whole legacy. Like imagine the scariest dude in Yon, because all of a sudden, fifty four years old, he wanted to drop a song. Bro, you should have did that shit at twenty. No, no, no, no, this man said, I am I think it was Alchemist said, Yo, there is no age limit. True when you've been doing it a while, don't come bright new fifty four. It's gonna be playing your ship. They're not playing your ship.

00:47:03
Speaker 2: Don't do that. Oh got it? Have not the profession for you and thr time, Pa, you can't enter this shit. Oh no, not fifty years old and all I'm like, yo, you know what I mean?

00:47:15
Speaker 1: I swear to come my phone with ring recipes?

00:47:18
Speaker 2: What is the latest age? You can enter it? You can't do it. I can't do it. I believe, not for me.

00:47:23
Speaker 4: Right, say you started, it didn't boom until I was twenty seven. That's cool now, that's that's a lot of niggas. That's like, I don't care. I think anyway. Nah, it's some rappers.

00:47:35
Speaker 3: I think two change j Rick one of the two changes. But he started and he just came back and popped later.

00:47:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bross.

00:47:45
Speaker 1: I watched Rick Ross walking around the club ten years straight trying to light I used to see boys get it white before. You understand what I'm saying. But I'm not saying that. When I'm saying is it's two different things we're talking about. You don't know exactly when you said street niggas want to rap? My thing is alright A twenty two, twenty four, twenty five, thirty one year old street nigga. Do not come with og Bobby wantson?

00:48:09
Speaker 2: Wants Bobby come with a nigga?

00:48:12
Speaker 1: O G Bobby Johnson, don't do it case he used to call me and be like, Yo, Joe to God such and such. Some queens got to talk to your mess Joe such and such some brook and.

00:48:25
Speaker 2: He's forty, he's fifty.

00:48:27
Speaker 1: Old guys trying to act like the who is going to buy your music? Who is going to support that music? Please stop being delusional. It's one thing if you are O G you mob deep fat Yo, you Jay to kiss, you did this this, You've been doing this. Whatever you drop a project, we actually appreciate that. Yeah, right, every other John here could do it. They don't stop at a certain age.

00:48:56
Speaker 2: We could do it.

00:48:56
Speaker 1: Slick Rick drop the album. I'm buying everybody I'm buying, but don't come brand new sixty two.

00:49:02
Speaker 2: Nah. And they do it.

00:49:05
Speaker 1: The problem is I'm bringing it to attention because they do it. They come out and they be like, yo is somebody's I don't give you. Another thing is if you're sleeping on your girlfriend's couch.

00:49:20
Speaker 2: That you can't make it hit.

00:49:21
Speaker 5: You got four kids, she's working, you kids get hit. She got four kids, she's working. You're sleeping on your girl's couch. You got four kids, she's working every day? You playing two k You got four kids, bro, this is what I'm trying to tell. These guys are telling these girls they're rappers. They're telling them they rappers. They don't have a show.

00:49:46
Speaker 1: Look, if you don't have somebody downloading your shit besides your family and friends, if you don't have a show, if no one even knows you exist but yourself and your crew, you, my friend, are not a rapper.

00:50:00
Speaker 2: You are not a success. This is not your profession. A job and then seek the.

00:50:07
Speaker 1: Kingdom, get a job, do something because the girl knowboy, now there's some ladies here. What you know if the guys swore he too, sleeping on your couch playing two k talking about he's some sort of rapper, you know why not?

00:50:20
Speaker 2: He full of ship? Right?

00:50:22
Speaker 1: You might love him because you love him, but he's not for real.

00:50:26
Speaker 4: Everything with thirty year old models, they ain't never been on no cover Lincoln the Bible.

00:50:31
Speaker 2: But they might. They might be bad. They might be bad. They might be bad a year and a half.

00:50:43
Speaker 1: Let that head drop down the ass. Listen, let me tell you something. I disagree with that one. You could be any kind of bottle. The guy on the couch that doesn't have a job, who's using the fact that he's some type of rapper because he snuck in the Who you gonna cut a demo? You're not really a rapper. I also have a problem. Damn this turned into what's your problem?

00:51:08
Speaker 2: Fat Yoe?

00:51:09
Speaker 1: My problem is everybody who even shoots or gets killed on the news somehow they're rapper. Rapper Johnny Z shot the place just like, yo, bro, where did he rap longer? Your man? Jay Cole put it in the verse. He was like, yo, every time I little buddy rap. I listen to a ship after he got killed on the like, yo, bro, Like what is the quality?

00:51:37
Speaker 2: Nothing?

00:51:37
Speaker 1: Everything? Man, I don't know what to tell you.

00:51:39
Speaker 2: Man.

00:51:39
Speaker 1: Everything is like you don't have to be qualified no more. It used to be you had to give respect. You know, somebody came to you and say, yo, Todd Dollar, you nice, and then you started it's a big boss you wrap.

00:51:52
Speaker 8: You just upload your own music and celebrate your own life. I'm looking it is dumb down for sure. You wanted to be a singer a little bit. I wanted to be a singer.

00:52:03
Speaker 1: If I could have traded my rap career to be like heavy Nuther Vangiels, No, he was a.

00:52:10
Speaker 2: Who would have been your R and B name.

00:52:14
Speaker 1: What I would have been, yo, listen, I'd have been on some bullshit though I'd have been giving the whole audious roses and shit, all type of shit like I'd have been on sports. I mean, you know, you know, singing to me is uh is just different. I guess rap is rap, But to be singing to me is more beautiful. You know, whether it's in English or Spanish. Spanish think I sell some music one of the most beautiful musics in the world, you know what I'm saying. So it's the same thing with English, like man, I love that shit.

00:52:44
Speaker 2: Cool Man ten seventeen free TC.

00:52:48
Speaker 3: Slightly after that, let's make some noise for brother Todd dollars Son.

00:52:54
Speaker 2: We like so Dallas toasted up.

00:52:59
Speaker 3: You could have said that way this that line, that's spot your body. This ain't that, that ain't this, it's cracking. It's another one.

00:53:12
Speaker 2: Baby, Yes the time.

00:53:17
Speaker 1: Hold on one thing. I gotta ask you. I know we wrap but your relationship with hip Maker, Yeah, tell us a little something about that, because I mean I feel like, yo, he could get Todd Dollar, he could wake you up in your sleep, Like, how did that relationship become so tight between you and him.

00:53:34
Speaker 4: It took a long time because he's my eskimo brother. Uh, it took a long It took a long time to start because we used to. I used to not fuck with him at first because that nigga was hitting one of my bitches. But that's yeah, yeah, yeah, like y'all know the same young ladies.

00:53:55
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.

00:53:57
Speaker 4: But then once I grew up, I'm mature, I realized that, especially in this industry, that happens so much. You know what I'm saying, right, I mean, you play sweet go and then uh, it was just like damn nigga, we would have been working since back then, we would have so many hits.

00:54:15
Speaker 2: You feel me that niggas like talented. He really like knows he knows how to get to the hits. So we work.

00:54:22
Speaker 4: We work all the time. Every time I stopping, Uh Miami, I'm pulling up on him.

00:54:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I had to ask you that because that's my goal to for Todd do with Todd dollar. He disappears sometimes I can't believe.

00:54:35
Speaker 2: People with you.

00:54:36
Speaker 1: I ain't know twelve people number to get it touch at you. I got a call hitman, him making a man ain't calling me back man showed me might be sleeping Joe. Don't worry. I'll go get him. I'm gonna find him. But shout out to the him maker. We need him on it.

00:54:50
Speaker 2: You just called me. He want to come next week? Yo, Jada? Who you talking to? Like? Did you talking to me? Wilt you? Yo? What I want to speak to? This morning?

00:55:07
Speaker 1: I put on the TV and I see Alans, Bubba Chuck all over. He's promoting some book. I called Jada, I said, Yo, Jada, he called, I'm watching.

00:55:20
Speaker 2: Yeah. Got off the phone with him last night, called me over man doing Yo. What the fuck? Why he ain't on the couch? Like, Yo, what do you say? He ain't on the couch? And you found out he was in New York. He's ducking us.

00:55:34
Speaker 1: He's ducking on. But you know we need head make on there. You know what I'm saying. But we appreciate you, Todd Dollar. I personally appreciate you for everything you've done for me. You really really uh.

00:55:46
Speaker 2: Helped me out. So free TC man CTC Free TC