Trump Tariffs On 'All Countries'; DOGE Sinking Musk's Wealth

Bloomberg Daybreak: US Edition

On today's podcast:

1) President Trump says he plans to start his reciprocal tariff push with all countries. Trump's tariffs are set to be unveiled on April 2 and will aim to rebalance global trade and boost US manufacturing. The Trump administration has not yet outlined what tariffs are coming, how they'll be calculated, or what countries will need to do to secure exemptions.

2) The president threatens Russian oil penalties if Vladimir Putin refuses a ceasefire with Ukraine. Trump said he was "very angry" at Vladimir Putin and threatened "secondary tariffs" on buyers of Russian oil if Putin refuses a ceasefire with Ukraine. Trump also threatened to punish Tehran with unspecified "secondary tariffs" and raised the threat of bombing Iran until it signs a deal that renounces nuclear weapons.

3) Elon Musk says his role at DOGE is costing him a lot in terms of his job as CEO of Tesla. Musk's political activities have led to a 45% drop in Tesla shares since their peak last year, causing his personal wealth to decline by over $100 billion this year.

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Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio news. 0:00:10.360 --> 0:00:13.159 Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager and I'm John Tucker. Here 0:00:13.200 --> 0:00:14.760 are these stories we're following today. 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:15.080 John. 0:00:15.120 --> 0:00:17.319 The drop in stocks we're seeing around the world comes 0:00:17.360 --> 0:00:21.360 ahead of President Donald Trump's planned announcement of tariffs on Wednesday. 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:24.360 White House officials had insisted earlier this month the levies 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:27.479 would be more targeted, with some nations being excluded, but 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:30.360 on Air Force One last night, the President pushed back 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:31.000 on that idea. 0:00:32.440 --> 0:00:35.360 You'd start with all countries, so let's see what happens. 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:39.680 There are many countries. I haven't heard a rumor about 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:40.839 fifteen countries, ten. 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:42.839 Or fifteen those countries. 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:47.160 Essentially all of the countries that we're talking about wouldn't 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:49.360 be talking about all countries and. 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:50.120 Not a cutoff. 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:54.080 President Trump's indicated the plan will go beyond matching tariffs 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:57.000 that other countries slap on US imports to include things 0:00:57.040 --> 0:01:00.240 like value added taxes and regulations. At the White how 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:01.720 caes is unfair. 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:05.280 And President Trump also threatening secondary terraces on buyers of 0:01:05.360 --> 0:01:08.920 Russian oil if Vladimir Putin doesn't agree to a ceasefire 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:12.040 with Ukraine. In an interview with NBC News, the President 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:15.040 said he was very angry with Putin for questioning Ukrainian 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:19.000 President Filadimir Zelenski as a negotiating partner, but he's softened 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:21.760 his tone with Putin on Air Force One. 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:23.839 I don't think he's going to go back in this squad. 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:26.920 I've known him for a long time. We've always gotten 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:31.960 along well. He considered Zliski not credible. He's supposed to 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:33.800 be making a deal with him, whether you like him, 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:35.680 where you don't like him, So I wasn't. 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:36.039 Happy with that. 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:39.080 At the same time, President Trump pressuring Zelenski to agree 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:42.360 to a deal on critical resource access, saying if Ukraine 0:01:42.480 --> 0:01:45.959 backs out of the Rare Earth's deal, he's got quote big, 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:47.440 big problems and John. 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:50.600 President Trump's push for a ceasefire in Ukraine's drawing praise 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:53.920 from his allies on Capitol Hill. Republican Senator Mark Wayne 0:01:54.000 --> 0:01:56.480 Mullen reacted on NBC's Meet the Press. 0:01:56.360 --> 0:02:00.520 President Trump makes very clear where his positions are on 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:03.840 all situations, but he's wanted to go through diplomacy first 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:07.160 before anything else takes place. So him having a friendship 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:10.079 or trying to have a relationship with Russia before this 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:12.799 goes to this place was a right move. Now he's 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:13.720 saying he's done. 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:16.600 That was Republican Senator Mark Wayne Mullen of Oklahoma on 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:18.920 NBC's Meet the Press, which you can hear every Sunday 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:20.000 on Bloomberg Radio. 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:23.000 And President Trump also were refusing to rule out running 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:26.480 for a third term. He told the NBC there are 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:29.120 methods that would allow him to rug in. When I 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:31.560 asked about it on Air Force One, the President had 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:33.679 this to say, you want to talk about. 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:35.760 It, I'm just telling you I have had more people 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:39.600 say please run again. I said, we have a long 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:41.400 way to go before we even think about that. 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:45.880 The twenty second Amendment to the Constitution limits presidents to 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:48.320 just two terms. It was an act at after Franklin 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:51.519 Delano Roosevelt was elected to a fourth term in nineteen 0:02:51.600 --> 0:02:52.160 forty four. 0:02:52.520 --> 0:02:55.200 Turned back to markets now, John, As we said, futures 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:57.799 and stocks around the world are sliding as we begin 0:02:57.840 --> 0:03:01.360 a new trading week. In Japan, the nik correction territory, 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:03.720 and as you mentioned, gold once again is trading at 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:06.560 a record heading into today's session, the S and P 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:09.560 five hundred is down more than five percent. That's in 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:12.880 contrast to stocks in Europe. They are higher by twelve 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:16.520 percent for the quarter. Bloomberg Intelligence Diructor of Equity Research, 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:19.200 Tim craighead has more on the divergence. 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:25.760 After years clearly of a tech driven tech lad rally 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:29.720 in the US outperforming basically everything, this has been a 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:34.320 three month period where we've had deep seek meet a 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:41.400 German bazouka in terms of spending, meets Donald Trump tariffs, 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:45.320 and it's those three factors that have turned tech on 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:50.720 its head, have ignited optimism that we're not going to 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:53.480 let this crisis in Europe go to waste, and we're 0:03:53.520 --> 0:03:58.320 actually going to get some collaboration and integration and movement. 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:02.640 That's Tim Craig of Bloomberg Intelligence. The risk of tarifflink 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:04.960 damage has propelled the S and P five hundred to 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:08.480 its worst quarter since twenty twenty two, wiping five trillion 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:11.280 dollars off its value from a record high in. 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:14.480 February, and Nathan Goldman Sachs is cutting its S and 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:17.000 P five hundred target for a second time this month. 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:21.120 They're citing higher recession risk and towerf related to uncertainty. 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:24.000 The team, led by David Costin now sees the benchmark 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:28.160 to ending the year around five seven hundred points versus 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:31.360 their previous estimate of sixty two hundred. The new target 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:34.360 implies gains of just two percent from Friday's clothes. It's 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:37.440 among the lowest on Wall Straight, according to data compiled 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:38.039 by Bloomberg. 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:39.960 Of course, John one of the hardest hits stocks during 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:42.719 the recent selloff has been Tesla, and at a town 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:46.200 hall event in Wisconsin, the CEO Elon Musk acknowledged his 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:48.719 job as head of President Trump's effort to cut the 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:51.160 size of government is having an impact. 0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:53.920 It's costing me a lot to be in this job. 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:57.640 What they're trying to do is put massive pressure on me, 0:04:57.800 --> 0:05:01.520 and I has I guess to to you know, I 0:05:01.560 --> 0:05:04.600 don't stop doing this. Well, you know, my Tesla stock 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:06.920 and the stock of everyone who hostess has gone went 0:05:07.000 --> 0:05:08.800 roughly in half. I mean it's a big deal. 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:11.800 Elon Musk's personal wealth has dropped by more than one 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:14.679 hundred billion dollars this year as Tesla shares have slumped 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:18.280 forty five percent from last year's peak. Musk spoken Wisconsin 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:20.680 ahead of a state Supreme Court election tomorrow. 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:25.440 And finally, the head of France's National Rally Party, Marie Leapin, 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:29.200 has been convicted of embezzlement by a Poaris court and 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:32.039 it threatens the far right leaders possible twenty twenty seven 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:34.920 bid for president. She and her party are found guilty 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:38.520 of diverting millions of euros in EU funds to finance 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:43.120 activities related to their domestic agenda. Lapan denys wrongdoing, claims 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:47.080 the prosecution is seeking her political death. As she puts it, 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:50.520 the judges still reading out their decision this morning. If 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:53.120 she enters the race, Lapen would currently be the leading 0:05:53.160 --> 0:06:01.720 candidate to replace Emmanuel mccron in twenty twenty seven, five 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:03.760 h seven Right now at Wall Street, and it's time 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:05.680 for a look at some of the other stories making 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:07.960 news in New York and around the world. And for 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:11.320 that we're joined by Bloomberg's Michael Barr. Michael, good morning, 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:12.200 Good morning John. 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:15.600 The death toll from the seven point seven magnitude earthquake 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:18.880 that hit me and mar has passed seventeen hundred as 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:21.719 more bodies have been pulled from the rubble. A government 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:24.560 spokesman says that another thirty four hundred have been injured 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:28.800 and more than three hundred are missing. The earthquake occurred 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:32.960 Friday near the country's second largest city. The World Food 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:36.760 Programs Director in me and Mar Michael Dunford is calling 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:40.880 on the world to help with urgent and immediate humanitarian services. 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:44.320 This isn't a country that already was experienced a humanitarian 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:49.160 catastrophe because of an ongoing civil conflict, a civil war 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:53.839 that has been raging now for four years. Muslim organization 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:57.479 says seven hundred worshipers who were in mosques for Friday's 0:06:57.480 --> 0:07:00.800 prayers during the holy month of Ramadan killed and some 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:05.440 sixty mocks collapsed or were damaged. A tragic car crash 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:07.520 in Brooklyn, New York, over the weekend is throwing the 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:12.000 spotlight on habitual speeders, with multiple states now considering ways 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:15.440 to crack down that includes installing devices and cars that 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:19.520 prevent them from exceeding the speed limit. Police say thirty 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:23.320 two year old Miriam Uremi was behind the wheel when 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:25.600 she rear into a car and then struck and killed 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:29.160 thirty four year old Natasa Sodra and her two daughters, 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:32.520 ages five and eight. Sadra's son is in critical condition. 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:36.520 Police say Uremi was driving with a suspended license, and 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:40.360 records show she racked up more than ninety tickets in 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:44.320 the past, and that includes fifteen school zone speeding tickets 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:47.119 and red light tickets. In just the last year, loane 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:51.680 storms brought freezing rain and down trees and snapped power 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:55.880 lines in Indiana, Michigan, Minnesota, and Ontario, Canada. More than 0:07:56.000 --> 0:08:00.640 nine hundred thousand electricity customers lost power on Sunday. Utah 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:04.080 is now the first date demand fluoride in drinking water. 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:08.040 A recent foreign study brings the debate that claims too 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:13.240 much fluoride could be harmful to children's cognitive development. Toxicologist 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:15.040 doctor Stephanie Whitmer, the. 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:18.200 CDC has conducted high quality research that tells us fluoride 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:21.080 is really great for our dental health. Dental hygiene. It 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:25.160 strengthens enamel, It remineralizes our teeth, prevents de kay, it 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:29.200 combats cavities, it fights bacterial growth. We know fluoride is 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:29.960 good for our teeth. 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:33.920 Doctor Whitmer says matting fluoride and drinking water may impact 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:36.839 low income families who may not have access to high 0:08:36.960 --> 0:08:40.360 quality dental care. Global News twenty four hours a day 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:43.120 and whenever you want it with Bloomberg News Now Michael 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:44.480 Barr and this is Bloomberg. 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:50.920 John All right, Michael, thanks very much. Yeah, that brings 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:53.800 us to find ten all springtime. Now for the Bloomberg 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:57.280 Sports Update and for that, Good morning, Dan Schwartzman. 0:08:56.960 --> 0:08:58.960 Good morning, John and Nathan. For the first time since 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:00.880 two thousand and eight, and for just a second time 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:04.040 since the NCAA tournament expanded to sixty four teams back 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:07.080 in nineteen eighty five, all four number one seeds reaching 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:10.880 the final four. Yesterday, Houston dominated Tennessee sixty nine to 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:13.960 fifty to win the Midwest Region, while Auburn outlasted Michigan 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:15.520 State seventy to sixty four. 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:17.319 We shall talk at fifteen. 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:22.600 Thanker listens straight music on a three ref You called 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:25.880 it right there. That's courtesy of CBS. Auburn winning the 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:28.480 South Region. Both teams joined Florida and Duke, who both 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:31.920 advanced On Saturday. Yankees improved to three and oh. Yankee 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:34.719 bats continue to slug home runs in another dominated and 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:35.840 win over the Brewers. 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:39.600 Free to count on arn Judge. One man out, driven 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:43.160 deep to leftfield. He's done it again, see ya, A 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:47.160 monster two run home run. Can't keep him in the park. 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:48.439 Two to one, Yanks. 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:51.839 That's courtesy of Yes Yanks. Knock off the Brewers twelve 0:09:51.920 --> 0:09:54.000 to three. Yankee bats hit four more home runs in 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:56.640 the game. They now have fifteen on the season. Aaron 0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:58.960 Judge another big game, hitting that three run homer, his 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:01.320 fourth homer in the past two games. Match with an 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:03.200 off day, they open up a three game set versus 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:06.680 the Marlins tonight Miami. Elsewhere, Nationals beat the Phillies five 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:09.040 to one, Red Sox lose at the Rangers three to two. 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:11.360 Orioles fall to the Blue Jays three to one. While 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:14.040 padre startered Nick Pavetta gives up just one hit in 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:17.280 seven innings in San Diego's five nothing win over the Braves. 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:21.040 NBA Action Nick's Pete Portland one ten to ninety three Warriors. 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:23.679 They've now gone eighteen and five since acquiring Jimmy Butler. 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:26.120 Golden State dominates the Spurs one hundred and forty eight 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:29.719 to one oh six, and the NHL Alexevechkin scoring is 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:32.040 eight hundred and ninetieth goal in the Capital's eight to 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:34.920 five loss to the Sabers. Ovi's now just five goals 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:37.520 away from passing Wayne Gretzky as a league's all time 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:41.120 leading goal scorer. That's your Bloomberg Sports Update. I'm Dan Schwartzman, 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:42.199 John and Nathan. 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:48.280 Coast to coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on Sirius Exam 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:51.240 and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:54.360 Bloomberg Business app. This is Bloomberg Day Break. 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:57.280 Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. With two days to go 0:10:57.400 --> 0:11:01.840 until President Trump's promised Liberation Day of reciprocal tariffs, he 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:04.800 is now saying all countries need to be unnoticed, tamping 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:07.360 down some of the speculation that the tariffs WI announced 0:11:07.360 --> 0:11:10.079 on April second could be limited in scope. 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:13.360 They ripped us off like no countries ever been ripped 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:18.160 off in history, and we're going to be much nicer 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:21.160 than they were to us. But it's substantial money for 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:22.440 the country, NEVERTHELEDS. 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:24.680 And that was the President speaking of Board Air Force 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:27.439 one last night. For the very latest, we are joined 0:11:27.440 --> 0:11:30.480 by Bloomberg's Kevin Whitelaw. Kevin, of course, there has been 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:34.160 so much messaging around whatever the President is going to 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:37.680 announce on Wednesday, This talk from Treasury Secretary Scott Besson 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:39.520 that there might be a focus on what he's called 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:43.360 the Dirty fifteen. Now it seems the President is kind 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:45.480 of walking even that back a little bit. Good morning, 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:46.800 Good morning. 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:47.440 Yeah. 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:50.760 Obviously, this is something where I think there are two 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:54.080 different dynamics going on. One is there is a tussle 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:57.960 within the administration itself over exactly how to proceed. There's 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:01.320 a clamp within the Trump orbit that wants to go 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:03.800 super hard, super big on tariffs, and then there are 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:06.280 others that are very worried about the market impacts and 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:12.600 want to do a more gradual and incremental kind of approach. Obviously, 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:15.880 Trump's instincts seem to be to go big, but you know, 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:18.360 look until we actually see it, until we understand it, 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:20.720 until we see the numbers and exclusions and everything else, 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:22.559 you know, we're not going to really know. I think 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:24.880 the other dynamic is, frankly, the market just wants to 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:26.840 believe it isn't going to be too big, and so 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:28.520 I do think there's just a sort of a sense 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:30.960 of people out there that just want to believe that 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:33.840 this isn't going to be as dramatic and disruptive a 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:36.040 shift as Trump seems to be promising. 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:40.080 How much is the president watching the market reaction based 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:45.560 on what he's been saying in his public commentary, Yeah, 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:46.360 I don't think we. 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:48.160 Know for sure, but we do know that he does 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:52.360 frequently gauge you know, his you know, sort of his 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:55.000 the market does matter to him as a benchmark, and 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:57.640 there are times where he's very concerned about it. So 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:00.319 you know, you could see something where if so, if 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:03.200 he goes big in the market really really does tank, 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:05.319 he could end up adjusting it. I mean, keep in mind, 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:08.000 we have seen this before. He announces big things, he 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:11.000 does big things and then walks them back and adds 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:14.280 exclusions and everything else, or you know, does a temporary 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:17.240 suspension or so you know. Again, I think there are 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:18.960 still a set of people that are hoping this is 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:21.920 a negotiation or are hoping that if there really is 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:24.800 a big negative reaction that Trump will recalibrate. Both of 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:27.840 those things are possible. But you know, Trump has shown 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:31.959 that he's really does seem to believe broadly and deeply 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:34.920 in the idea of tariffs, and you know, he could 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:38.199 be trying to do something that's sort of a longer 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:40.880 term shift than I think maybe the market is fully 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:41.360 prepared for. 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:45.360 And does that idea that the president sees tariffs as 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:48.520 a negotiating tactic play into some of the comments that 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:52.520 we've been hearing from him around the Russia Ukraine ceasefire, 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:56.560 talking about secondary tariffs on Russian oil buyers if Vladimir 0:13:56.600 --> 0:14:00.160 Putin doesn't come to a deal with Vladimir's Lenska. 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:02.200 Well, you know, it is interesting you are getting a 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:05.840 sense that that suddenly his frustration is building with Moscow 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:08.880 in a way we really haven't seen that much yet. 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:11.200 Most of his ire up to now has been directed 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:15.760 towards towards Ukraine's Vladimir Zelensky. But this time, you know, 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:18.679 he's I think feeling tested by by Putin, and I 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:21.800 think he's realizing that that his ambitions of a quick 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:24.840 cease fire i e. You know, in the next few 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:28.720 weeks are slipping away. Is as Putin just doesn't seem 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:30.960 to be all that interested in it. And obviously I 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:33.800 think that a lot of other people watching this say that, 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:36.760 you know, the the you know, Trump has done so 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:41.320 many things that essentially encourage Putin to take a hard 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:43.520 line that it is going to be very difficult for 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:45.640 him to move him off of that. 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:50.800 And in our last minute, Kevin, what's the political consequence 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:55.120 potentially of some of this latest commentary from President Trump 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:58.360 that he's not ruling out the idea of seeking out 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:01.000 a third term, which in the the least the twenty 0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:04.760 second Amendment of the Constitution seems to be a non starter. 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:08.400 Yeah, I think the Constitution is really quite clear on this, 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:11.080 and I think everyone has gone back at various points 0:15:11.120 --> 0:15:12.840 in the past couple of months to look at it 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:17.240 to understand it. So it's very, very hard to understand 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:20.280 what he's saying, other than you know, perhaps the constitutional amendment, 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:23.080 which you know is clearly not going to happen. That 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:25.920 is something Democrats have the easy ability to block and 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:29.840 the Congress, let alone in the States, So it's not 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:33.000 you know, I don't think he's ever explained what he's 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:35.240 meant by this. He has toyed with this before, and 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:37.680 you know, I don't think we know. It's hard to 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:43.400 tell whether he's just enjoying sort of gaslighting the news 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:46.680 media and Democrats on this one, or if there's something 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:48.240 that he just hasn't explained anybody. 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:51.520 This is Bloomberg Daybreak here morning podcast on the stories 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:54.440 making news from Wall Street to Washington and beyond. 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:57.160 Look for us on your podcast feed by six am 0:15:57.200 --> 0:16:00.560 Eastern each morning, on Apple, Spotify or manywhere else you listen. 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:03.120 You can also listen live each morning starting at five 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:05.640 am Wall Street Time. 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