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Speaker 1: You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio. Made it to a Friday. It's a meat Friday at that. Everybody's here, everybody's in the deep end of the pool. Fritzy's here, Marvin's here, Dylan's here, Paul yours truly, and of course the back room guys. Jimmy Tura, wagu Ribbi tacos, We got pork Carnita's tacos, lobster tostados. It's Sinko de Myo theme, Spicy Miller.

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Speaker 3: Okay, thank you, You're welcome.

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Speaker 2: All right, We're ready to go here eight seven seven three DP show email address Dpatdanpatrick dot Com Twitter handle at DP show. Speaking of meat Friday, we of course cooking on the Rectech grills for my birthday. Rectech is giving away a grill and you go to rectech dot com search the Dan Patrick Show for details and then you tune in on May fifteenth. That'll be a Friday Chef Greg will be here to give away the grill. He'll come in and cook for my birthday. Eight seven seven three DP Show email address Dpatdanpatrick dot com, Twitter handle it DP Show. We say good morning if you're watching the show Peacock and also NBC Sports Network, and we say good morning to our radio affiliates around the country. Sometimes we'll watch a game and it'll be a bad game, it'll be a blowout, and then you try to find something else. So I'm watching the Knicks in the Hawks last night, and actually I'm tuning in in the first quarter and I usually, you know, I'm looking at the scores just to see, okay, you know, where are we And then I go, wait a minute, that's not right. If it's forty to fifteen, why can't I'm not going to tune away from this. It was a car accident that I kept driving by over and over and over and over and over, and I'm like, I want to see how bad this gets. And I watched far more than I thought I was going to, and I thought at one point I think they were up sixty one points, and I thought, gosh, how about we get up to seventy five. Can you beat him by one hundred? Atlanta wanted to play the Knicks. Atlanta lost in a game against Miami at the end of the year, so they didn't face the Cleveland Cavaliers, so you wanted to face the Knicks. And of course we thought, maybe the Hawks can pull off a surprise here ce J McCollum.

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Speaker 3: He's the new.

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Speaker 2: Villain, he's the new Tray Young. And then all of a sudden, Hawks acted like the Hawks, and the Knicks acted like the Knicks. That was one of those games where it was one for the ages, as they liked to say, And for the New York Knicks, everything they did they did right. Atlanta everything they did they did wrong. The Knicks shot thirty six percent from three point range, out rebounded Atlanta by eleven, forced sixteen steals, thirty five fast break points to Atlanta's eight, outscored Atlanta by twenty eight points in the paint. Their largest lead was sixty one. I could hop stat of the Day brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the Dan Patrick Show. I couldn't turn away. I kept watching because I thought, let's see how bad this can possibly get. And when you have a halftime deficit, the largest halftime deficited NBA playoff history. Who here was something I thought of during the game. You probably didn't, But odd things come into my head when I'm watching sporting events. The number one overall pick for the Atlanta Hawks, Zachariah Reshache, played three games in the postseason, averaging three point seven points per game. Now, the reason why I bring that up is he was the number one overall pick. If you look at the other number one overall picks since twenty twenty, Cooper Flag, Victor Wemben, Yama, Polo Ben, Carrol, Caid Cunningham, Anthony Edwards. Ouch, wait a minute, we got the number one pick. Wait, we didn't even get the right French guy. We missed out on Wemby. They also had the trade that allowed Luca to go to Dallas. They ended up with Trey Young, who's now in Washington. So I'm thinking, what happened to this guy? Now, it's at I had a basketball, so nobody really cares. If he was in a major market, then maybe we'd be looking at him and talking about how much of a bust he is. And it looks like my all accounts, he's probably that did watch The Joker last night? That's embarrassing. They don't have their top three or four guards and you guys put up a performance like that. Jamal Murray and Nikola Jokicic were bad. Murray was bad. That's a game you gotta win. That was embarrassing.

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Speaker 3: That was.

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Speaker 2: In Minnesota. Look, Minnesota and Denver has become a real rivalry, and I like that. I like that there's some fire there. Although the head coach of Minnesota, Chad Finch, said after the game, he was like, hey, they wanted us. Well, I don't think Denver, because they won what their last eleven games of the regular season, wanted Minnesota. If you lost a game so you faced Minnesota, kind of like Atlanta did against Miami. Miami sat their starters. Atlanta lost that game so they wouldn't have to face the Cavaliers.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Martin, Also, do we owe Rudy Gobert an apology of some sort?

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Speaker 2: I do? I do.

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Speaker 4: I'm with you, because look we've been killing him. But you know what two years ago, when the Timberwolves eliminated the Nuggets. The first time Rudy Gobert was playing like a Hall of Famer against Joker. He's the one guy that really makes him work, play in and play out, for sure.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and you know, I would say I think the problem I had with Rudy Gobert is he wasn't one of the top five players in basketball. But this is when we had positions for first team, second team, third team, So that's not his fault. I'm blaming the NBA for kind of you know, putting him up on a platform that he doesn't belong. It's a good player, he's a good defensive player, and he did really well against Joker. But then they got rid of the you know, positions. Now we have position lists, and then he'll never make an All NBA team, you know, certainly first team. But he did play well in this series against Joker. And if this was Lebron, three time MVP, winner of one you know NBA title bowing out the way Joker did, we'd be crushing Lebron. Here is a Joker. After the loss the elimination against Minnesota. How far away or not far away you feel like you guys are from being you know, a Championship.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you're just lost in the first round, so I think we are far a Definitely you're to Serbia, who will get fired.

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Speaker 2: If it was Serbia, everybody gets fired. They are far away. At least it felt that way. You didn't have Aaron Gordon healthy, Murray did not play well. Joker did not play well either. But this this is one of those where Joker has one more year with Denver and then he has a player option after that, and then you wonder, and I do wonder this when he gets to that last year player option, does he want to play elsewhere? Does he want to play, you know, after that in the NBA? I mean with him, it's a wild card. You're not quite sure. It's like he might just get up one day after a season and say, see you not coming back? Yes, yes, Dylan.

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Speaker 6: Do you think he's even upset that they lost last night? He didn't sound like I'm devastated.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I want to be fair too. I'm sure that this bothers him because he's a great player. MVPs. He's gonna and I said he'll end up with one title, and I obviously still believe that he not winning the title this year, he's got the MVPs. He probably won't win another MVP, but he might look at this team and go, this might be a Yannis situation, although they're better than Milwaukee is, but you might look around and you go, do I want to stay here? Now? He said, I want to be a Nugget for life. Okay, I mean that's the right thing to say. You don't say, well, I don't know because we're in that I don't know situation with Giannis. With Milwaukee. Denver is a title contending team if it all goes right, Yes, Marv, you know I.

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Speaker 3: Spoke too soon.

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Speaker 4: When the Nugget won their championship a couple of years ago. I thought he was in a dirt category where he was on scholarship for the rest of his career. Right, But Dirk was never considered to be far and away the best player in the game. Jason Kidd on the show yesterday said, Joker's gonna end up as a top five player. But you can't be a top five player fair or unfairly judged. You can't have it with just one title.

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Speaker 2: And I think we have to judge him that way if we're going to look at him as one of the top ten players of all time, then we have to treat him the way we did other players, and that is are you producing, Are you winning? Are you saying, hey, they didn't have their backcourt, they didn't have their starting guards, and you're losing. No excuse, but I think you got it. He warrants criticism. I don't think he's saying he doesn't warrant criticism. He didn't play well, But that's one of those If you said, now the seventy six ers against the Celtics, I said, you just can't let them sort of figure this out. And Paul George Man come on down. He looked awesome, awesome, and then you know, you get Embiid in there, who now is kind of figuring out he's a seven foot shooting guard who just kind of dancing around the foul line. Maxi Edgecombe, I mean, they've got talent here, and if Boston doesn't hit threes, Boston is not going to beat you. And that happened again last night, and now you go to a game seven. Boston should not be in this situation. Yes, marm the Sixers, they're looking like the team we thought they'd have. Yeah, with a healthy Paul George and a healthy joelmb In, Edgecomb and MAXI you're looking. They look formidable. Philadelphia never trailed and now tied at three games apiece. They'll be in Boston on Saturday. Saturday. I'm looking at the betting lines here for these upcoming games. Pistons are favored by three and a half against Orlando. I said yesterday, I still think Detroit wins this series. Cavaliers minus three and a half against the Raptors. The Lakers are getting three and a half against the Rockets on Saturday. The seventy six ers are eight and a half point underdogs against Boston, and Minnesota's a fourteen and a half point underdog against the Spurs on Monday. As far as your title odds, Thunder is still the big favorites. The Spurs were plus five hundred now they're plus four hundred. Boston is third on the list. Then it drops down to the Cabs, the Knicks, and then the Lakers. The Knicks were plus twenty five hundred yesterday after the win there plus nineteen hundred. Dylan, what do you have for me for the first hour of the program? By the way, the first hour of the program brought to you by tire rack dot Com. The way tire buying should be ship fast and free, back by free, road hazard protection, convenient installation options like mobile tire installation tirerac dot com. The way tire buying should be all right, what do you have for me? First hour?

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Speaker 6: We got a couple Dan. This one's from Paul. Would you rather lose by fifty.

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Speaker 2: Or lose by one? I'd rather lose by one. I want to be competitive. I mean I want to have a chance you lose by fifty. Knicks fans had their shirts off after the first quarter that standard though on the road, but I think they spilled out on to the streets last night in New York after the Knicks and six, and they got their shirt soft.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Marvin was last at a road game because they sure sounded like MSG South last night.

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Speaker 2: You're right about that, You're right, yeah, paulin.

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Speaker 7: You know when you're watching that game, there is that play?

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Speaker 3: Is it?

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Speaker 7: Dyson Daniels, number five, the guard for Atlanta. He's up at the free throw line and it's Mitchell Robinson, the big man for New York. He starts hooking him. Then a teammate starts hooking Robinson, and then Robinson's kind of defending himself, like doing the get off me stuff, and then there's almost a brawl. I don't know why you could get thrown out of a game when you don't take a swing. You're just telling people to get off you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I wonder if the NBA will reassess that if they're looking at that, because Mitchell Robinson wasn't the aggressor in a situation like that. But I mean Atlanta should have put up more of a fight than just that. Yeah, polm you'll like this stat. Fifteen New York Knicks scored last night. I didn't know there's fifteen active guys on a round. Your scored last night? He had Bourn, Yes, he did four and too. Mike Breen might have scored last night. Bang yeah bag that hang.

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Speaker 7: That was like thirteen people eligible.

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Speaker 2: I think that they had guys in street clothes who came in and, you know, just stressed. Just come on, yeah on, yeah, they're shooting around a little bit, all right, Well, come up with the poll question. Your phone calls are always welcome. We'll check in with Austin Rivers, NBA on NBC analyst Fritzy. Is Fritzy's gonna do?

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Speaker 3: I think?

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Speaker 2: Is Doc Rivers impression to Austin Rivers And we'll see if Austin realizes that it's Fritzi and not his dad.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna We're gonna pretend it his dad called it. It's a surprise.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Oh, hold on, your dad's on the phone.

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Speaker 5: Hey, Biden, how's it going. I was just on the show and that I got fired right after I went on with Dan. I don't know what's gonna happen to your career after doing the show today.

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Speaker 2: Hour two on this meat Friday, everybody's here. The rectech grills are fired up, and so are we. Dylan doing double duty here sitting in the back row with Fritzy and also trying to monitor the rectech grills. The beauty of it is you can have it on your app and you can change the temperature. If you need to set in and forget it then. So there's Jimmy Tura, Jimmy Churi, wagu Ribbi, tacos, pork carnitas, tacos, lobster tostados, and spicy Miller Lighter ritas. So a margarita with Miller Lite.

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Speaker 2: All of the meat provided by Heartland Steak Co. Go to the website. There got great deals for you. Taste the Heartland Difference. We'll pick our Kentucky Derby winner coming up. We know absolutely nothing about horse racing. Nothing Now. I used to cover the Preakness in the Belmont, I think three or four years in a row that I would go to those races when I was working in New York at CNN, when I was a reporter, I'd go to those and of course you're going in there and there are certain sports where you know who knows that sport and who's just coming in. And I was one of those guys just coming in because I you know terminology. You got to make sure you get everything right. You're just I remember talking to the legendary trainer Woodie Stevens. Oh, I think that I'm I'm doing well. You know, I'm kind of holding holding my own with him horse racing lexicon language. We get done, and a PR person for the New York Racing Association came up and he goes up, hey, next time, you made a couple of mistakes here, you know, referring to like the Big A aqueduct. And I was saying that like, oh, man, you know out there the Big A. Well, Woody Stevens wasn't out at the Big A, and like just I was in over my head. And then I realized, you know what, just talk about what you know and then let people tell you what you need to know instead of me trying to act like, oh yeah, you know, he comes out of the four hole. Then I find out that there was a horse who was blind in one eye okay, and his name was Patch. So they had a horse who ran in the derby. And this was brought up on the Gambling Podcast yesterday Sammy P, who joined us. Oh by the way, controversy on the Gambling Podcast yesterday because bad Larry Quit and Irving It's Dylan Big Day. Ray produces that Sammy P came in, he's a professional gambler and we have bad Larry Well, bad Larry Well. This is how it sounded yesterday on DP takes a gamble, Bad Larry Quit. Why don't you take my place? Rights there? Wait? Did you just did you just quit? I offered it to Ray last week. What this is news to me.

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Speaker 1: I'll take it, Sammy take my spot please.

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Speaker 2: So bad Larry please take it. The rest of the way.

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Speaker 3: Now he's better than us. Wow you think it was fun?

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Speaker 9: Wow?

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, why don't we just keep Larry? I'm sorry we were a burden to you, but.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, if you want us at our football Larry, then you have to have us at our palantier offseason.

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Speaker 2: Why don't we just hang up on Larry. Why don't we just say goodbye? That would be great. Okay, that's it, Larry's done. That was it. After three hundred episodes, Bad Larry battles out.

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Speaker 6: Yesterday he did the uh, yeah, I'm you don't fire me?

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Speaker 3: I quit?

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I did call him later and uh, I said, what's going on?

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Speaker 3: He goes, I'm just.

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Speaker 2: I can't do it. You know, I can do football, but you know, I don't want to talk about Taylor Swift's next boyfriend and bet on that, you know. And I said, okay, because I'm just busy, you know, traveling, and I'm not there in studio.

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Speaker 3: I said, okay.

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Speaker 2: I said, all right, you you're done. We're going to treat you as if you're done, and then if you want to join us during football season at any point, you can come in for a little cameo. And he goes, that'd be great. So he did quit yesterday, yes, deal, Yeah.

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Speaker 6: And that was not rehearsed. That was everyone's first time hearing Larry quit.

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Speaker 2: Yes, because I didn't. I didn't realize. I'm like, come on, I didn't know that he was planning, you know, this palace coup the previous week where he told Big Ray, the Big Ray, Big Day Ray, the producer. And so we'll see, we'll see if we can get somebody to come in and sit in the seat where Larry should have been. Yes, deil, there's an empty chair waiting for someone. Yeah, yes, bo.

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Speaker 7: And that horse you mentioned Patch, Yeah, that was the twenty eighteen Kentucky Derby, a one eyed horse. He had an eye, both eyes for a long time, but then he had an illness and had an eye removed. In twenty sixteen, he was thirty to one to win the eighteen race and he finished fourteenth with one eye.

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Speaker 2: Well, the problem is those who bet him didn't realize that his good eye was his outside on his right eye, he was just seeing the grand stand and no other horses. He thinks he's doing really well and if he had been in on the rail he would have seen all the horses that would have helped him kind of navigate. So Patch can't see any of the other horses. He thinks he's doing great. Where is everyone? It feels like he's Usain Bolt. I'm doing this with one eye. Yes, yes, Tom, do we know?

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Speaker 3: I don't know what kind of studies are shown.

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Speaker 7: Do horses just run as fast as they can?

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Speaker 3: Or do they?

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Speaker 2: Are they really aware of the other horses.

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Speaker 4: Obviously you don't want to step on another horse, but do they really understand that?

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Speaker 2: I know, how about we just stay in our lane here?

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Speaker 3: This is a serious question.

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Speaker 7: Do I understand that this is a competition and a lot of money's it's taken.

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Speaker 4: I got to beat these other horses, I got to get there.

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Speaker 2: First, stay and just let's just stay in our lane when it comes to this horse racing, they're just waiting to get to the stud fee portion of their career. I guess yes, but yes they do know. And there are horses who have had great rivalries affirmed in aliy dr It felt like, you know, they they were competing with each other.

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Speaker 7: A trash talking the barn and all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: What'd you call me?

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Speaker 3: Thank you? Todd?

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Speaker 2: Uh So that happened yesterday. That was big news on the Gambling podcast that Bad Larry has stepped down. Probably not the craziest thing that was said yesterday. Draymond Green has a podcast, The Draymond Green Show, and he talked about Steve Kerr's role in his career.

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Speaker 10: As much as he's done for me in basketball, a part of me think he's hindered me in my career and what I could have become o KD came from twenty sixteen. Oh, I have not had to play in our playbook, not a single play that we run.

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Speaker 3: For me in our playbook since twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 10: But if you're going to take one gripe and not be able to move past it for all the other things, I think you're shallow as a person. That says more about you as a person than it does about Steve or whoever else than that is that you gotta take the good with the bad man.

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Speaker 2: So Draymond thinks he's a thirty point scorer, that Steve held him back, that he didn't run plays for him. All I know is if I got Kevin Durant, Steph Curry and Klay Thompson, I'm not running any play for you. I'm sorry. I could make a case that Draymond hindered Steve Kerr's career, certainly in one playoff series. I give if we want to talk about all these things. You know, Draymon is a wonderful player. He was the right player at the right time for the right team. If he played in Atlanta, no one would care. I mean, Robert or told us that Rockets never ran a play for him. Big Shot Bob, a guy that you would run plays for because he is a knockdown, cold blooded killer at the end of the game. And he said they never ran a play for him. What play are you running for Draymon? And once again, if I look at my first three options, I'm not getting to my fourth option. Yes, Marvin, there's no way.

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Speaker 4: I have maybe the most unstoppable offensive force ever.

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Speaker 2: In Kevin Durant.

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Speaker 4: Wait wait, Katie, we're going to run this pick and role play for Draymond Green? Absolutely not. No, you set the offense up, that's what you're great at. Like he was basically the point guard on that team. Yes, I don't ever like when people say, oh, Stepherr is a great point guard. No, No, he's a shooting guard and Draymond Green was the guy that ran that offense, and you did what you were great at and Steve Kerr put you in a great position to get paid three hundred million dollars in be a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and he will be a Hall of Famer. He was a great defender, and he was a point forward. He was their best passer. Well that's Steve putting you in your best position to be a point forward, to run the offense, to get the ball to the scores, and be a great defender. So I would argue to the contrary, Steve Kerr understood. Look, Draymond was I think two time Big Ten Player of the Year at Michigan State. I think what he did in the NBA to become a Hall of Famer is a surprise to most people. But understanding your role too is key, and Draymond did understand his role. Now, he may not like it that he didn't get plays run for him, But I don't know if I would say to Steve Kerr, you know you kind of hindered me, you held me back.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Paulin, Yeah, if you go back to when Draymond was talking in that clip twenty sixteen was his best season. He averaged fourteen points a game, then went to ten, seven, eight, seven and so on. But that's when he really hit his stride as a player that frustrated people. No one was scared of his scoring.

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Speaker 2: Now because he could be a dangerous three point shooter, but he wasn't an offensive threat the way I mean, once again, I've got Durant. Even if I don't have Durant, I have Stephen Clay, and chances are I'm not getting to my third option. So but look, I don't know if Draymond, I want to be fair to the context of this, I don't know if he sounds mad other than what could have been. Maybe I could have been an eighteen point score per game, maybe something like that. But it feels like he thinks he could have been like a go to guy.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Pauling, Yeah, you could easily make the case if he's playing for Washington or Atlanta, he's twenty one to ten if he's the focal point at some point in his career, but he'd be missing the playoffs every year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's going to the Hall of Fame because he won championship. Yeah, not because you could have averaged twenty one a game, Yes, Martin.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, at best he would have been somebody like Paul Millsap. Ooh and weird, He's not on the tip of our tongues. I'm only saying that because I'm an NBA geek, but most people don't know who Paul Millsap is, even though he had a really good career. That's what Draymond may have ended.

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Speaker 2: Up being, all right recapping basketball last night. By the way, Golden State is not in the playoffs. The Nicks embarrassed the Hawks and they win the series. The Timberwolves close out the Nuggets. Seventy six Ers alive, live in Kicking now. I don't think the seventy six Ers have eliminated the Celtics in the NBA playoffs. Since nineteen eighty two. The Celtics have knocked the seventy six Ers out of the playoffs six consecutive meetings. The last time Philly eliminated Boston was nineteen eighty two.

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Speaker 3: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: If you're watching on Peacock, our streaming partner, download the app if you haven't done so. The Timberwolves knocking out the Nuggets, and boy, that's the walk of shame if you're Denver that there was no excuse for that. Give credit to Minnesota. Minnesota matched the bravado in then some of Denver stood up to Joker and Jamal Murray, and they did so without their top three guards. But you imagine if you're the Knicks and there's a chance the seventy six Ers knocking off the Celtics on Saturday, Wow, you'll be big Philadelphia seventy sixer fans. This is where a team kind of figured it out a little bit. You didn't know if you're having embiid all right. People even questioned if he was actually hurt. Yes, Marv.

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Speaker 3: But here's the thing.

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Speaker 4: If you're the Knicks, do you really want to see tyrees MAXI for maybe seven games?

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Speaker 2: I would rather see him than I would Tatum and Brown in a really balanced Celtic lineup.

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Speaker 4: Jalen Brnston, those guys had a hard time with CJ mccollin.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Dylan.

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Speaker 6: From like a viewership standpoint, would you rather see the next play the Sixers or the Celtics the kind of the storyline.

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Speaker 2: I would say the Celtics, right, you know, I mean that's a rivalry Philly though Philly New York. Eh, yeah, I don't know. I like watching Philly because I like Tyrese Maxin, and I do have great appreciation for Joel Embiid because he's been through an awful lot and he's still playing. Like we talk about Anthony Davis being through a lot, he's not playing Joel Embiid it. He is always trying to play and he said, when I'm out there, I am playing hard. Yeah, Paulie.

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Speaker 7: You know, if we criticize load management, but if you look at the seventy six ers this year, that's all they did. Paul George had less than four forty starts. Embiid had fewer than forty starts, and Embiid had a policy no back to backs. And look where he is right now.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, deyl I think it was the first time you guys had him beat on the show and he told the story about like killing a lion.

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Speaker 3: Did we ever find out that was true? I thought that was minute Bold too. Maybe they bumped in.

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Speaker 2: I think Maup Bull might have killed a lion, but I think Embiid was having fun with us. Yeah, yeah, can you check. I think Manuuon Bull killed a lion.

00:31:12
Speaker 4: Yes one, it was Embiid, but he did say it was not true.

00:31:15
Speaker 2: Okay, but I thought Manut Bowl actually killed a lion. Embiid was joking about that. I got to believe that lion probably didn't look at Manoup Bull and say there's not enough meat on the bone there. I'm not worried about that guy.

00:31:33
Speaker 3: Like it's just the skewer.

00:31:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, we'll get phone calls coming up. It is a meet Friday here and uh we'll talk some basketball coming up eight seven, seven to three DP show. I got to play this Draymond Green sound for Austin Rivers. See what he thinks of that. Uh, we'll take a break. We're back after this Dan Patrick show.

00:31:57
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00:32:10
Speaker 2: We had joe El Embiid on a while ago, maybe when he was first going into the NBA and he told us the story about killing a lion, and I brought up and it wasn't true. But I brought up the Minute Bowls story because I remember having Minute Bowl on the show and he talked about killing a lion as well. He made it up as well. So I just want to set the record straight for those thinking that these two centers may have killed a lion. Yes, Dylan, that is disappointed.

00:32:38
Speaker 3: Sorry.

00:32:40
Speaker 2: Sorry Austin Rivers, NBC Sports Analyst, and tune into the NBA Playoffs and NBC Peacock NBC Sports Network throughout the postseason, including exclusive coverage of the Western Conference Finals. Where do you want to start? Where do I want to start?

00:32:58
Speaker 9: Yeah?

00:33:00
Speaker 2: Like you want to start with Atlanta against the Knicks. Seventy six are still alive? The Nuggets no showing?

00:33:07
Speaker 9: Well, yeah we could start with uh, we can start with I think the most interesting series I think right now would be Boston Boston failure, or Detroit, perhaps Orlando, especially me being in Orlando, an Orlando kid. I have to call the games and be biased, but there's a part of me that's cure no team very hard. I'd be lying.

00:33:33
Speaker 2: Have you ever been involved in a game like the Atlanta Hawks played last night.

00:33:39
Speaker 9: Yes, yes, uh, not that bad. Nobody's been that bad. Yeah, not in the playoff game. In a regular season game, yes, I remember playing the Kevin Durant Westbrook Thunder.

00:33:54
Speaker 3: That's when they had Harden and all those guys.

00:33:57
Speaker 9: And unfortunately I was playing for the New Orleans Hornets at the time, which is no fun ever, and.

00:34:08
Speaker 3: We lost by like forty eight.

00:34:11
Speaker 9: And I remember thinking this is the most humiliating thing. But then I watched last night's game and I felt much better because that happened in a playoff game, which is just egregious.

00:34:21
Speaker 2: What's the locker room like when you lose by forty eight? There's nothing really to say.

00:34:27
Speaker 9: There's like, I don't know what you know, Quinn Snyder says at that halftime, you know, because they were down fifty at halftime, forty at halftime, so you know at that point the game's out of reach.

00:34:38
Speaker 3: You're not gonna have a forty point deficit be wiped away.

00:34:42
Speaker 9: So you've lost the seasons over, but you still have two quarters left.

00:34:48
Speaker 3: It's a very awkward situ question.

00:34:50
Speaker 9: Shouldn't be in like down twenty there's like a there's hope, like you can you get to erase it twenty point quarter, you know what I mean? In a quarter? But forty is it's just not happening. Yeah, it's just there's nothing to say. I would love to be a fly on the wall in that locker room. And it has nothing to do with Quinn.

00:35:10
Speaker 3: You know.

00:35:10
Speaker 9: I love how people always make the you know, the loss about the coach, but he's not out there shooting and playing, and he can't force guys to play a certain way. So it's like, I don't I don't know what you say.

00:35:22
Speaker 2: How did Boston get into this position?

00:35:26
Speaker 9: They were a lot heavily on tough shot making, and to have a steady diet of that all the time, it's very difficult. They take a lot of threes. They shoot more threes than just about anybody. They take a lot of jump shots. They're two best players, honestly, their top three scorers on the team, if you're putting Pritchard are all ISO ISO players, and when they tap into that it can get dangerous. I think the Boston's at their best when the ball is popping and that thing is swinging, and when Tatum has twenty two and Brown has twenty five instead of Tatum has thirty and Brown has tries to have thirty, And then the rest of the team tries to figure out what they can muster because they don't have a rhythm.

00:36:12
Speaker 3: When they're all hooping, that's when they're dangerous.

00:36:16
Speaker 9: And then late game you can tap into that ISO because by that time your team has a rhythm and a feel, and your best players feel good and everyone's feeling good.

00:36:24
Speaker 3: But when you're just playing this style throughout a game, it's tough.

00:36:29
Speaker 9: And then also they don't have anybody to guard jojo There's just you know, Joel Embiide has come out of nowhere and is looking like a shimmer of his healthy self, and they don't have anybody to deal with him.

00:36:41
Speaker 3: And this is a this is a problem.

00:36:44
Speaker 9: I mean, this isn't like something where Philly's just played well and Boss is just going to go get it done in seven. They have legitimately no one to guard Philly's best player, and that's going to be an issue for game seven unless they just make shots. I mean, they got to make a lone out of them, you know, otherwise Philly could win this.

00:37:04
Speaker 2: I'd love to give credit to Minnesota, but we usually don't do that in a situation like that. We got to blame the team that lost. But I have credited what Minnesota did. They don't have their top three guards. I thought that they stood up to Denver Joker Murray. But that's an embarrassment for the Nuggets, like bowling out like this in a game you know that you're favored to win, you're supposed to win, they don't have their guards, and then you know show, Yeah, I wonder what the future. And I know it's overreaction, but Joker's got to be looking at this. But when I got one more year than a player option, is he any closer to a title than Yiannis has been in Milwaukee?

00:37:52
Speaker 3: Yes.

00:37:53
Speaker 9: The only reason I say that is because they have much more in terms of trade assets. Like you have Aaron Gordon, you have have Jamal Murray, you have Christian Brawn, you have Peyton Watson, you have you know a handful of guys that have.

00:38:10
Speaker 3: You know, trade value.

00:38:12
Speaker 9: Whereas you look at Milwaukee, they're they're they're going that that team is not gonna be winning anything anytime soon. So you know, if you have Aaron Gordon, Peyton Watson healthy. It's a different team. Now to your argument or to your point, well, it's like, well they just lost the team that didn't have, you know, their three best players. Yes, I think Denver should have won this series. After Anthony Edwards goes down, you're supposed to win this. The problem is they're already in a whole three one and then they're looking at this like, guys, really have to win one game. We don't have to replay this team at a seven times. It's like you watching March Bedness. Anybody can meet anybody in one game, especially for talking about pros.

00:38:52
Speaker 3: You know.

00:38:52
Speaker 9: So you get a big game from Jada McDaniels and Julius Randall and then some other guys, Terrence Shan and some of these other dudes come in and give you something. Then you can beat them, especially a team that has zero and tier defense. And for whatever reason, this is the best we've ever seen Rudy Gobert guard Nicola And again, Nicole's bad numbers are my and everybody else's good numbers. So let me just put that out there. He's one of the greatest centers of all time. But this is the and I hate saying the worst I've ever seen him play, because he's still put up good numbers, but this is the most challenged I've ever seen Nicola play. I'm just so used to him having his way with everyone, including Rudy. I've seen him have his way. I've been on the team with Rudy and seen him have his way. I've been on the other team and seen Nicole. I've played in Nicola. I'm just I've never seen Rudy have an effect on him like this series. So it starts with Rudy. I gotta give him credit. Yeah, but yeah, it is disappointing. Got that Dever was going to come back, and I thought they were the team best fit to be able to compete in the West with some of these other teams left.

00:39:57
Speaker 2: Talking to Austin Rivers NBC Sports. Who's on the phone, Oh, I think I think.

00:40:04
Speaker 3: A special someone. I think Austin's dad just checked in.

00:40:07
Speaker 2: Oh okay, Doc Rivers joining us. Hey, Doc, how's it going son?

00:40:13
Speaker 5: I'm just so proud of you. I just want to let you know. Playing it too. Tenth overall pick by the Hornets in the twenty twelve draft. Eleven year NBA career the Clippers. You've played for me, your father and son. How wonderful is that that you could play for your dad and I could coach my son, and now NBC and Peacock. I just wanted to call and say, I'm just so proud of you.

00:40:31
Speaker 2: Thank you, Doc. I appreciate that.

00:40:33
Speaker 9: That was a pretty pretty damn good impression. Yeah, you had me in the first half too. Really, you and Jamie Fox stand alone?

00:40:45
Speaker 3: My friend?

00:40:47
Speaker 2: Have you heard Frenchy's Frenchy does Kevin Harlan? How about that Todd the Nuggets.

00:40:53
Speaker 5: Her in a nine to four run here in the third quarter and Phoenix wants to talk about it?

00:40:57
Speaker 3: This sus the NBA on TMG. That's pretty good.

00:41:02
Speaker 9: And I've never heard anybody imitate Kevin Harlan, So you definitely got that one in the bag.

00:41:07
Speaker 3: That's pretty solid.

00:41:08
Speaker 2: So you got the Lakers are underdogs against the Rockets, and I don't know what Kd's status is, but this gets really dangerous if Houston wins like they're supposed to.

00:41:20
Speaker 3: You.

00:41:20
Speaker 2: Reeves is back but didn't play well. So what do you expect to happen in this series the rest of it?

00:41:26
Speaker 3: I think I think the Lakers can finish it out. You know.

00:41:29
Speaker 9: Again, they got one game to win, Yeah, you know, and it's there. Obviously they're without Luca, their best player, but you know, on Houston side, they're confident right now. I don't think the Kevin Durant thing is an issue as long as he doesn't play. And I know that sounds crazy, but they're they're winning without him. It seemed like when he plays, they're so reliant on his offensive greatness that guys just sit around and they don't play like themselves, especially Thompson, who's a non shooting guard. So to play with the guy who's heavy iso, it's really hard for him to help space the floor.

00:42:07
Speaker 3: He's just kind of stuck out there in the mud.

00:42:10
Speaker 9: Some of these other dudes feel like they're more unlocked and more free. I think playing without Kevin. To remember, this team was one of the most promising up and coming young teams in the NBA. They go get Kevin and then they've kind of been in this murky water similar to what Phoenix was in, similar to what Brooklyn was in, you know what I mean.

00:42:25
Speaker 3: So it's tough.

00:42:27
Speaker 9: Kevin's so good sometimes you just rely on him to beat teams with his ISO, but that's not gonna win in the playoffs consistently, especially at his age.

00:42:33
Speaker 3: Now we're not talking about Prome Kevin Durant.

00:42:35
Speaker 9: So I think without Kevin they're a better team for now, just because of where that seemed to be when he played.

00:42:44
Speaker 3: It didn't seem like it was. I don't know.

00:42:47
Speaker 9: I'm not gonna sit here and say they have problems in the locker room and stuff.

00:42:50
Speaker 3: I'm not over there. I don't like to speculate.

00:42:53
Speaker 9: I care about what I see in front of me on the court, black and white. They're playing styles different when he plays. So unless he's gonna come back and the ball is gonna move again and pop, and then he's gonna pick his his spots to have ISO and pick his his points to where he wants to do that and play a little bit more without the ball in his hands, then I would say, great, come on, come back, you know what I mean, because he's Kevin Durant. But it seems like when he plays, his offensive ability sometimes hinders them just because of how good he is. I know it sounds crazy, but that's what we've seen. And then he plays one game, doesn't play another game, plays one game. It's really hard for a team to go into the game not knowing what's happening, you know what I mean, Like that, what's our identity tonight? Is Kevin playing or not? Because he's not just some role player. So it's it's tough. But I have the Lakers finishing it.

00:43:42
Speaker 2: Out, have the Magic figured out the Pistons.

00:43:48
Speaker 3: I think the Magic are a better team, I really do.

00:43:54
Speaker 9: I think Detroit has hung their hat on playing hard and physical all year, and that can get you a lot of wins in the regular season. Effort, effort steels wins in the regular season. The problem with that being your hard hat or being something you hang your hat on rather is in the playoffs, everyone plays hard, everyone gives their best effort when everyone's diving on the floor and going all out one hundred.

00:44:15
Speaker 3: So now it has to be more than effort, you know what I mean.

00:44:18
Speaker 9: You have to be somebody that can that can really put the ball in the basket and make plays. They only have a few of those guys that can do that, you know what I mean. So Kate is the best player in the series, He's the best player between the two teams. Everyone knows that, But who's Kate's second best player. You'd say Jalen Durant. Okay, well, Jayalen Durant's not a great offensive player. He's he's more of a defensive player, does things on both sides of the floor. Who's your third guy to Bias Harris?

00:44:45
Speaker 3: After that?

00:44:45
Speaker 9: Who are you reaching for? There are a lot of guys who do things well. Jenkins is a good, hardworking player, two way guy converted Ducan Robinson very a good three point shooter. But you have to create sets for him and get him his own shot. He can't create his own shot. The magic can run that list. You got Paul ben Carroll, he actually has a Robin to his batman, just Franz Wagner, all right. Then they have Desmond Bane a twenty point per game score. Then you have Anthony Black, another guy can create his own offense. So you know, you see what I'm saying when you talk about depth and playmaking ability and shot making ability. I think Orlando has the edge. I think this is a bad matchup. Orlando's not supposed to be an eight seed.

00:45:24
Speaker 3: This this is a team.

00:45:25
Speaker 9: Preseason people had being a two, three, four seed in the East and due to injuries and them just not playing well because they're a very hot and cold team.

00:45:33
Speaker 3: They've had an underwhelming season.

00:45:34
Speaker 9: So now they find themselves as an eighth seed playing the one seed, and everyone's like shocked, but like Orlando's really good.

00:45:41
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. So we'll see tonight's gonna be a blood bath.

00:45:45
Speaker 2: I'll leave you with this. Draymond Green on his podcast had this to say that is head coach Steve come Man.

00:45:52
Speaker 3: I knew this was comed.

00:45:54
Speaker 10: As much as he's done for me in basketball, A part of me think he's hindered me in my career and what I could have become.

00:46:00
Speaker 3: KD came from twenty sixteen.

00:46:01
Speaker 10: Oh, I have not had a play in our playbook, Not a single play that we run for me in our playbook is twenty sixteen. But if you're going to take one gripe and not be able to move past it for all the other things, I think you're shallow as a person. That says more about you as a person than it does about Steve or whoever else than that is you gotta take the good with the bad man?

00:46:24
Speaker 2: Can he be right in both cases that he wasn't featured at all, But I mean, how do you feature Draymond Green if finish him doing what I don't know I think I'm doing. I'm trying, I'm trying to be fair to the context of this ridiculous.

00:46:45
Speaker 3: It's ridiculous.

00:46:46
Speaker 9: It's uto ridiculus, and you know, it's shocking because Draymond has such a basketball he has such a high IQ. That's what that's a big part of his game is how smart of a basketball player he is. So it's it bewilders me that he even things like this, because it's like Draymond, them taking a chance on you and them playing you, and Steve putting you at the forefront of that offense, making you be the point forward and kind of the you know, letting you allow you to have that voice and the freedom to have your you know, whether it's you know, spasms or what he loses it, or to be the emotional leader of that team.

00:47:24
Speaker 3: Steve let him be who he was, so to hear he was hindered.

00:47:27
Speaker 9: Especially drey Ball has never been an offensive score jug or not.

00:47:32
Speaker 3: He's left open eighty percent of the game. No one guards him.

00:47:35
Speaker 9: And because he's such a high IQ player, he's been able to take that and be a free screener for Steph Clay, he's been this enforcer.

00:47:43
Speaker 3: He does all these things defensively to dominate.

00:47:46
Speaker 9: I don't know what way he was hindered and why they would ever draw a place for you to score.

00:47:50
Speaker 3: You were never a scorer. In fact, the teams would have loved it.

00:47:53
Speaker 9: If you were shooting, it'd be much better than step Knot or Clay or Kevin Not. It's like, it's just look, Chris, I don't. I don't even know where he got this from. If Draymond was on another team in the NBA, I don't know what his career would have looked like. No, No, And that's not a slight to Draymond because he is in the Hall of Fame. So it's like, take the fact that the guy that helped you get there is the guy you're saying hindered you is.

00:48:20
Speaker 3: I don't understand the point. I don't.

00:48:21
Speaker 9: I did it, And I love Dre. I love his competitive I love everything about Dre. We got drafted the same class. I just he's too smart of a basketball player to genuinely think this. There's no way. He's just too good and too smart of a basketball player.

00:48:37
Speaker 2: Oh I know Robert or was with us a couple of weeks ago. He said that he never had a play run for him. Now, that's one of the great clutch shooters in NBA history, and he said when he was with the Rockets, they never ran a play for him. He would have a legitimate gripe, Yeah, Traymond, because he's offensively more forward. Draymond was a facilitator.

00:49:01
Speaker 9: And a guy that just affects the game in ways half of which don't even show up on the stat sheet. Robert Horry was a guy who facts the game by putting the ball to basket, Yeah, and hit big shots. So he has a legitimate, like you said, argument to be like, man, can I get a play call for me?

00:49:16
Speaker 3: Can I get like a pick and pop? Can I get some type of play quick action where I can get a three off?

00:49:21
Speaker 9: Draymond is a guy that you would never draw up a play to get a post up because he's not a post up big player. He doesn't have post skills to score, and he's not a get a player you would draw up a play to hit a three or get a shot because he's never been a high shooting percentage street point shoot or score, So I'm confused on what he wants to drawn up for him. Maybe he wants to play drawn up for him to make a play because he can do that. He's one of the best point forwards of all time. But I don't know what he meant by that. It just seems so weird because Stephen him and I feel like Steve's really embraced dre the whole experience of dray Bond and let him be him and be even though he's never been the first option. Think about this, the second option, the third option, fourth option. When you talk about the leader of the team, he's been the number one option. To allow that and let that be in fester and grow. You have to get Steve credit for that, and it's worked. They got four rings out of it. So it's just weird. I don't know that was a weird comment to hear because Draymond is such a high AQ person.

00:50:16
Speaker 2: What's it like to get switched out to Steph Curry.

00:50:21
Speaker 9: It's not fun. I'll be honest on an island. On an island, I'm okay. It's like, you know, if he drives by me and hits a lamp and I've done my job. You know, you when you get shipped, you know, switched out to him because I did most of the guarding on him. I predominantly guarded Stephan playoff series. He's more he's more dangerous without the ball. I hate chasing him. Draymond sets illegal screens. Uh but Matulia Igodala, Livingston, Festus, the zeal Lee, these guys set illegal, hard ass screens. And that's what was so hard to guard him when you when you were guarding him on the ball as a guard, I was.

00:51:01
Speaker 3: I was okay with that, you know.

00:51:02
Speaker 9: And if you hit me with something a cool bull versus a tap on the back, and do it again, you know, that's kind of mindset you have to You have to have to do it again.

00:51:10
Speaker 3: Mindset guard and stuff you.

00:51:11
Speaker 9: Cat you can't get otherwise your your spirit will dwindle.

00:51:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, great appearance. Thanks for joining us, Austin. We appreciate it.

00:51:22
Speaker 3: John. I'm so proud of you all the time.

00:51:24
Speaker 5: I'm so proud of you.

00:51:25
Speaker 3: You're having a great broadcast careers.

00:51:27
Speaker 5: Dad. Very nice you to come on. We did keep up the good work. You got to give me forty eight though, you got to give me forty eight.

00:51:33
Speaker 2: Thank you.

00:51:34
Speaker 3: Thank you. Johns, appreciate you.

00:51:37
Speaker 2: Thank you. Austin, NBC Sports analyst, tenth overall pick back in twenty twelve, the Hornets the exclusive coverage of the Western Conference Finals on NBC Peacock NBC Sports Network