Club 520 - Shelvin Mack on playing with Jeff Teague on Hawks, facing LeBron’s Cavs, Kobe scoring 60

The volume. 0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:08.920 All right, we're back another episode of Club five twenty Podcasts. 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:11.119 I'm the host of My name is DJ Wells. Special 0:00:11.119 --> 0:00:12.960 guests in the bill to return the guests. If you know, 0:00:13.039 --> 0:00:14.360 you know, you know what I'm saying. Back then, O 0:00:14.440 --> 0:00:16.880 O G. Five twenty days. We're gonna introduce my man's 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:18.880 last my far I left my dog BI should be 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:19.680 hearing out the priles. 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:23.160 How you nasty? Nasty? Let's get to a baby, right, tig? 0:00:23.160 --> 0:00:24.040 It's crazy? You know what I'm saying. 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:25.960 We started this podcast my boy was in the Black 0:00:26.000 --> 0:00:26.960 Forest's White license. 0:00:27.320 --> 0:00:27.840 You know what I'm saying. 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:29.720 I hate this taking finds every week and got show 0:00:29.920 --> 0:00:30.800 today in the home Whites. 0:00:30.840 --> 0:00:34.600 Man, I don't care, man, you don't care, man, you 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:35.959 don't care the fuck that. 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:40.559 Chick man introduced that nigga door Dash chick came in. 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:45.760 How finally that's a quick return. It wasn't that quick 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:49.440 to my writing. My dog young not show your tig? 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:51.559 How you what? Man? Chilling? Bro? You know what I mean? 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:54.880 Got Homie in the bill, one of my closest teammates, 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:57.920 one of my favorite teammates. But I gotta say something 0:00:57.920 --> 0:00:59.920 before we start. Oh buddy had y'all messed up in LExEN. 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:02.000 Yeah, Homie. 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:06.640 Uh, it was on Diamond Mitchell's coach, coach whoever he is, 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:09.759 don't ever disrespect You're. 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:12.120 Watching a lot of basketball. Then jash with Johns. That's 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:14.520 the young kid. He's top top ten in the country. 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:18.000 Yeah, and he tried to disrespect Lexington like that and saying, 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:21.160 who shoven Max. We're gonna're gonna find out what are 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:23.040 you talking about? What he was about it? Though, I 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:23.640 hold you. 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:28.320 That's crazy. It was about it. I don't know. Hard 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:30.200 today with the off white and you with it with 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:34.640 the te Scotts. He's like paper. I hoping he Man, 0:01:35.640 --> 0:01:40.880 we got nigga died next week. 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:49.120 Man, but till my left, like I said, Return against 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:52.200 Family had the show. One of the coldest college basketball 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:56.120 players of all time. Man from the les going crazy, 0:01:56.200 --> 0:01:57.320 shoving Man, big Dog. 0:01:57.360 --> 0:01:59.280 Appreciate you slide once again, Homie. 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:01.800 Yes, sir, Man appreciated you have me. I love your podcast, 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:02.440 which I doing. 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:06.280 Uh. Listen to all the stories. You know, all of 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:08.239 them true. A lot of people think they're not true. 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:11.520 Most of them true. And I lived it, been around and. 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:12.040 Seeing it all. 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:13.639 You've been a part of the stories. You know what 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:15.440 I'm saying, they ain't made it. That's why we got 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:18.760 this episode. The crazy part is met the sixth agrees 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:21.080 of separation with you in this episode, and the whole 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:23.440 gang is funny, Like y'all got to talk here about 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:28.000 how you first met chill Man. It's a reason why 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:30.120 because that's how he met Tig and vice versa. 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:34.840 Well, yeah, this one right here, I met him. He 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:37.840 had on a black shirt, some football jeans. 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:43.160 I was flexing it times out right felt jeans. John, 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:47.240 This is two thousand and a and this is two 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:48.120 thousand and eight. 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:50.440 You know, my dude Berry shoutut to my dog Barry 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:52.560 was cutting bro here and then you know she'll just 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:55.240 wants to link up with the black people. So I 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:57.400 didn't know he was going to the NBA. I had 0:02:57.480 --> 0:02:59.160 him in the trenches getting his haircut. 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:03.760 Yeah, was at the Dice Games at the trap got 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:04.440 I got put. 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:05.360 In office plenty of times. 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:08.320 Everyone thinking I think it's something different of him be 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:09.960 hand on Butler's campus all the time. 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:13.600 Shout out to Brad Steve. They thought I was trapping. 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:17.480 I had the twenty six on the three hundred, so 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:24.600 you look like ice Cube broo. My ship was white 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:27.880 than cue. But yeah, I had you know, I took 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:30.239 care of my dog wife's here. I wouldn't have had 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:32.840 he in them type of situations if I knew he 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:35.320 was going to the league. But he was always good 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:37.040 with me, and he a Trimmor's legend. 0:03:37.440 --> 0:03:40.840 He had me, what's Keith shine? What's it due? If 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:43.040 we went to go see he was already getting to it. 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:44.920 Uh No, I took you to walk a flakka. 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:48.200 Yeah, yeah, you did not want my boy to go 0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:48.760 to the draft. 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:53.640 Get you put you in the city in that but 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:56.120 Butler is right in my in my ghetto, so you 0:03:56.200 --> 0:03:58.360 know it was right there a street. Yeah. 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:00.280 Man, that was so funny about it because when we 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:02.600 was at Butler, like, it was like funny to see 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:04.680 people come to the school and you know, the panthers 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:07.160 at Buller don't tell you anything south of forty second Street. 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:09.160 They didn't show you that Butler bubble, which is a 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:11.000 for real bubble out the ways. You didn't know. You 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:11.480 wouldn't know. 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:14.080 But when my roommate taught me, he walked to that 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:19.640 gas station on thirty eighth Illinois with Donald Yes, true. 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:22.360 Yeah, he was trying to get it. He was trying 0:04:22.400 --> 0:04:31.320 to get put yeah, be his last chicken. I don't 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:33.960 know what he was alter friantship, but it's so funny. 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:36.120 Like you said that, Butler, Bubble, you're safe over there, 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:37.520 but outside of that, get smoky. 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:39.360 So y'all linking up over there was funny. And I 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:40.320 was okamps at the time. 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:43.039 And I remember hearing pulling up Butler pet He knew 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:45.880 this nigga bo hard about with the cars man. 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:47.640 That was crazy. He said, they really thought you was 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:48.840 trapping out there. Butler. 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:50.840 People telling on me. He said, I was giving them 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:53.520 liquor and all kind of stuff like it was crazy. 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:55.840 I wasn't even twenty one yet for real, but I 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:57.760 was over there party, you know, make sure my guy 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:01.360 was straight. Trying to my dog Emerson Grant. I just 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:04.159 saw Ryan Ron coaching for Atlanta. Shout out to Ron, 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:08.360 coach right, shout out to Gordon. Oh gosh, my boy, 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:11.440 every Jukes too, that's my dad to me. Every Jukes 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:13.919 used to well, I can't speak too much on that, but. 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:22.279 Like what's going on, No madded to have him going 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:23.080 on for regions. 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:28.280 Shout to my dog jukester Man. 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:30.080 Before we talk about the college days. Man, we gotta 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:32.080 talk about high school. You know what I'm saying. You 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:34.560 from Lexing went crazy in high school all time me 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:37.320 score your high school he the high school coach. How 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:39.640 would you feel having to play your team that scored 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:41.279 the most buckets and program history? 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:45.240 Here a gun, I'm lay with sh I know you're 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:48.400 a gun. I ain't playing with you, you know. On 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:51.640 he had eight minutes to get out of see Jeff 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:54.840 walking out of sideline. Put this thing out coming out 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:55.240 the game. 0:05:56.760 --> 0:05:59.000 But no, just being very aggressive going out there trying 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:01.600 to score. I knew, uh, something I just had to 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:03.360 do to get to the next level. But then playing 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:05.719 in the NBA, like with Jeff, other good point guards, 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:07.760 being a backup from the majority of the time, you 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:11.760 gotta gotta get it in where you get And I 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:14.040 love Jeff, you know, being the starting point guard one 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:16.599 of my good friends. They tell me every time shoot 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:16.960 that thing. 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:20.960 Facts. So we gotta talk about that. 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:22.600 We're gonna go back to the college days, of course, 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:24.800 because you wanted the coldest college place of all time. 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:27.080 But how did y'all meet. 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:28.839 Men? 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:32.440 Sure? Yeah, because of be hen so be hen Uh. 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:34.320 He used to come to Atlanta when I played for 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:37.000 the Hawk Shell was still in college and be here 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:38.960 a coming like my nigga, shall will kill you? 0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:43.800 Who is shall like sholar Man play for Butler. That 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:48.760 coach was like, no, he's in college. Coach grade saw 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:50.880 that the past few weeks. 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:51.560 It was like. 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:55.800 That's what your Yeah, but you was trying to tell 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:58.920 me that, Like Butler was good and all this ship 0:06:58.960 --> 0:06:59.400 and I'm. 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:01.360 Not it's better than wake for us. 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:05.120 Just had played in the Horizon lost to Cleveland. Y'all 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:08.480 lost to a Horizon League team. Serious, That's that was 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:17.480 our problem. Finish taking serious finish story still interesting. It 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:21.480 was like shout out the Norse. I with but so 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:25.520 he talking crazy, were about to was getting drafted. We 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:29.760 having a pickup game. It was a lockou year baby. 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:32.240 So I see shoven mc name on the list of 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:33.640 opposite was about to play. 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:35.400 I marked that. 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:39.240 Yeah he's getting killed today. We in Indianapolis. He don't 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:42.680 even know, Yeah, he don't know nothing, but he's marked. 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:44.560 As soon as he got on the court, I go 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:45.840 at him full speed. 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:50.200 Donkey did man, I'm put in there be here like 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:53.360 every time like this, she don't know what he what's 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:53.720 going on. 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:56.320 I'm not talking to I'm not trying to be his 0:07:56.440 --> 0:08:01.640 friend in the charity game. I'm not players you all 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:03.679 day right there. But some cont. 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:08.160 This program was like one of the bigger matchups Indianapolis 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:12.720 was what the DC proram you had, John Wall, the 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:15.520 Marcus Cousins, they all came to tell it was all 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:16.680 Indiana seam put together. 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:17.760 It was a really big deal. 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:20.120 If you ever see the highlights, as crazy as I'm 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:22.440 sure they clip it up, but for being a line 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:23.960 you up like that and that's serious of a game 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:24.600 is crazy. 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:27.200 It's very it's a lockout. I never played in the NBA. 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:29.280 I don't know what's going on. 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:36.480 On the court. I should watching the shot like everybody 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:39.520 you know at that time. But you you cooked me 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:39.960 that time. 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:42.480 I was just it wouldn't even you Browns playing behre. 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:45.679 I got you back though before because when you got 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:47.360 the league chased you down. 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:57.480 You got that flock you got was like bro never 0:08:57.600 --> 0:08:59.360 stopping till you got on the team. When when I 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:03.400 got traded Utah, I gave y'all at work in Utah. 0:09:03.960 --> 0:09:08.079 Okay, are you sure about you stumbled? We can pull 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:09.520 up the clips he talking about your stumbled. 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:13.079 I remember that out. 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:16.520 I remember we got somebody that I'm gonna pull it out, 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:23.000 stumble it hit the three in the corner. It's crazy. 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:27.880 I don't remember that. Okay, what's you mad at? Game? Ship? 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:32.480 I know, I guess when I first got traded from Atlanta. Uh, 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:35.480 I was just going hard, same things. I'm not sure 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:37.240 what I have, but I know I played well when 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:38.840 I guess my former team. 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:42.240 I just remember when you I know that's gonna be 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:45.120 a drop when you were starting and I came back 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:48.079 maybe the next year because after I killed you, I 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:48.920 went to your house and beat you. 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:58.800 The man this boy, because get on the crazy. It 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:05.800 is crazy. But the first time we played all you 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:07.400 did hoop though, I remember, I was hyped. 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:11.120 I was like, damn shure hooping. That's the second time 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:17.160 we played in Utah because but was mad. He's like, 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:20.800 you know, are you gonna play for real tonight? Because 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:21.680 your friends on the team. 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:22.559 Here we go. 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:25.640 But he did it to my little brothers. All that 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:28.600 to say, I'm the reason why they friends today. 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:31.920 He the reason me and Shill started hanging out. I brought. 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:39.439 Had a lot of great time. Spright, dirty dirty sprite. No, 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:44.719 it was just it was just tequila and Spry. We 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:47.880 used to talk over the game. For sure, Team Dennis 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:50.960 was lit. Team Dennis was lit over team. 0:10:51.600 --> 0:10:53.680 But before we get to the NBA Draft, we gotta 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:55.400 talk about what you did in college, Bro, Like I said, 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:57.520 one of the most underrated college players of all time. 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:00.760 I was on campus when y'all went to two back 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:04.360 to back national championship games, and you was a very 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:05.160 big part of that. 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:05.400 Bro. 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:08.480 That's one of the best runs in college basketball history. 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:11.000 For sure, wish world was crazy the first one or 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:11.559 the second one? 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:12.439 Uh? 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:14.880 To me, I'll say the second one. The first one 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:17.920 was actually like really really good. You know, with Gordon 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:19.640 on the team, I think we want like twenty games 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:23.480 in a row. The second one snuck in like a 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:27.920 c stug it out how to win close Howard, and uh, 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:30.840 we want every game. The second one by like last 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:33.240 second play. Remember the foul I had against Picksburgh the 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:35.920 half court. It was like one of the worst fouls 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:38.280 and n c A facts. 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:42.200 I'll tell you that boy if it was drafts back then. 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:48.920 He was trying to cut off. After that, the Rock 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:54.040 fo him. So we won that game because mac mharald 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:58.480 got fouled. Then also B c u mm hmmm not 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:00.600 bc old the men you play against Bay meet them 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:03.520 on the last second shot. K We just kept winning 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:05.679 at the at the end, just squeaking by, and then 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:07.160 we got to the championship. 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:10.400 It was kind of kind of as you know, that 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:11.600 was tired, bro. Yeah. 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:14.480 Yeah, went up against a really good team though. It 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:16.440 was a bad game. So I went to the game. 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:20.120 It was. It was horrid. It was a very ugly game. 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:22.960 But and to be fair, like y'all were in into 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:25.559 one of the best runs in basketball here history, Kimba 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:29.920 Walker's run through the Big East National That was one 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:31.920 of the best runs you will ever see in basketball. 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:34.880 Six games and six days in the Big East and 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:37.800 then ruin his team in the tournament. 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:39.440 It was. It was special. 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:44.400 It was definitely old boy named white Skin, the other 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:49.600 one Jeremy Jeremy German. Yeah, it was special for sure. 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:54.040 That's the reason why y'all lost. It was cold run 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:54.800 the Butler though. 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:58.880 It was really unbelievable though, bring that little school from 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:00.600 Indianapolis to the nation. 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:05.040 Wow. But the most fine was like playing her at 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:07.239 Lucas All for the championship. 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:11.439 It's crazy that I was there that dude game. Was 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:13.959 one of the craziest games ever. I said, next to 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:16.520 all de fens, and they didn't say a fucking word 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:19.199 until that shot missed off the bank, off the rim. 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:19.400 Bro. 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:21.600 Yeah, that was a really good game and I still 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:23.280 hate Kyle Single to this day because of that game. 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:25.400 Kyle Singer has never played. I mean, Coy Single was 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:27.600 colding get the fucked up. Obviously made to the league, 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:29.400 but that was the best time I've seen him playing 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:31.600 in his life. He hit every elbow jump shot that game. 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:31.760 Bro. 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:33.360 Yeah, they had a great game plan. 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:36.640 I don't know if you like game planning like that, 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:38.679 but they're the only team that forced Gordon to go 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:40.400 right and took the heir to go right for that 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:41.480 last shot and missed it. 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:44.880 Uh No, this did a good job. But that was 0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:46.480 a hell of a run. Hell of the game. 0:13:46.880 --> 0:13:50.679 One thing I do remember, Coach Stevens had us going 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:53.520 to class championship Monday at ten am. 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:57.360 Wow, put out of pockety coach, Coach, talk to him, man, 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:04.000 that's why I lost Class Wake Force. Wouldn't that we 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:08.760 didn't go to class on Monday. We just had Monday. 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:14.920 You ain't going for show? What that was a class 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:17.480 that that's crazy. He went to class. Everyone did. 0:14:17.600 --> 0:14:19.880 We had a shuttle going back and forth, and y'all 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:22.200 was downtown at the hotel. Y'all, we wasn't even on campus. 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:26.320 I remember that. That's crazy. I would definitely not went 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:29.960 to class. What I'm sure brand learned from that? Yeah, 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:33.240 learn from that. Did y'all do anything the next year? 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:36.800 We wasn't on what's name was in Houston? I mean, 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:40.800 did y'all have like study hall and stuff? Nah? Butler, 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:45.520 I learned. I also hope you ain't taking study out 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:47.640 and we recruited the right people. You don't have to 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:49.440 do all that stuff. Take care of your business. 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:53.200 Y' didn't have study hard Butler? Noah, Oh yeah, you 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:54.160 didn't go to school for real. 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:55.320 We did our work. 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:55.560 Man. 0:14:56.440 --> 0:15:00.080 They didn't have to have study study hall because I 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:02.320 had three point two in college. I still have study hall. 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:05.640 You had to get enough hours that's like eight hours 0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:08.400 a week, like mandatory. I don't care if you have 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:11.600 straight a's or not know that should degree? 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:12.280 Boy? 0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:19.880 Now, I went to the NBA now somewhere. 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:23.080 Yeah, I just finished mine up. That's why I said. 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:25.520 It took me ten years to do it, but I 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:27.600 got it done. Butler back for free. 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:29.880 Uh n b p A. 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:32.480 Oh yeah, I should have did that route too, because 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:36.440 Butler charge, Yeah, that's what I right, that's what wait for. 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:45.880 Bro waiting on him. Nothing but a lot of as. 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:49.640 I was a student there, and I remember tuition going 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:52.320 up ten grand each year that we went to national championship. 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:55.680 That's about right. I should have did the NB. I 0:15:55.720 --> 0:16:00.400 can still do that route. But the podcast set up school. 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:05.080 I don't really know, man, I add up really. 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:07.200 On they bolo out of pocket, Bro, y'all brought a 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:08.200 lot to their program. 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:10.920 Bro, all of y'all, No, for real, that's what that 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:14.320 look hoary degrees, but grant the new ADG grand line 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:16.000 dot line decker Man help me out. 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:17.280 Okay, that's my dollar. 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:21.240 You go the Nbrigge NBA Cup is here and you 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:23.560 can win big getting in on the action at Draft 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:26.640 Kings Sportsbook and official sports betting partner of the NBA. 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:30.280 All thirty teen split into six groups every Tuesday and Friday, 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:32.520 playing for the right to advance in a single elimination 0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:36.240 in season tourney culminated the NBA Cup Championship in Vegas. 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:39.440 Score big with the Draft Kings Sports Book. Every point counts. 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:41.880 New customers download the Draft Kings sportsbook app and use 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:44.680 promo code Club five to twenty. That's right, Club five 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:46.600 to twenty, c ol u B five two oero and 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:48.960 bet five dollars to get two hundred dollars in bonus 0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:51.280 bets all the young Draft Kings. The crown is yours 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:56.760 tap in the right way. That is crazy, though, that 0:16:56.880 --> 0:16:58.240 make you go pay to go back to school. When 0:16:58.240 --> 0:16:59.880 my first summer they told me to pay away for 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:04.600 it was seventeen thousand. I said, yeah, I'm just not 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:14.520 going back to I try to transfer, to try to 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:17.640 transfer the They probably treated him like every Scholarge brother. 0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:20.720 It was like some of my credits wouldn' transfer there. 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:27.159 It was like, you're gonna be a freshman because it 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:30.720 was I taking. That's crazy, but obviously, man, your college 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:34.199 screw was insane. Declared for the drive. How was that process? 0:17:34.200 --> 0:17:35.880 I know you probably had to do a lot of workouts. 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:40.080 How was that? Yeah, Mom is completely different than man, Jeff, 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:43.720 Jeff going lottery? Uh, lottery. I had to work out. 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:47.560 Damn there, it's better than me. I had had to 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:51.280 work out for twenty teams and my class was like loaded. 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:54.400 I would say he who was your clubs. 0:17:55.119 --> 0:18:05.040 Kyrie Clay Kawhi, Jimmy Butler, Doors, Uh yeah, Kimber Kimber, Cardiac. 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:07.680 Yeah, it was the Morris Twins. 0:18:08.000 --> 0:18:08.520 It was it was. 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:14.920 It was stacked Isaiah Thomas. So like we all just 0:18:15.000 --> 0:18:17.360 had a baller out throughout the no on the come, 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:19.400 especially coming from Butler. Uh. 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:22.240 You know, we went to the National Championship, but we 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:24.399 didn't play a lot of proggestions and played a certain styles, 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:26.399 so people couldn't really see how it was. 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:29.480 And you know everybody was fat too. Better go in 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:34.320 and show my body off. That's crazy, Paul, that sounds 0:18:34.320 --> 0:18:36.280 like a sluck. That's it did workout. 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:44.480 You know we had the Beggy the Beggy clothes. I 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:48.240 mean when Nike Elite wake Forest, well that stuff was 0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:48.840 a little bagging. 0:18:49.000 --> 0:18:54.040 So yeah, I was better nice school than us. I 0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:56.320 mean it was a test Nike, so I apologize. 0:18:56.920 --> 0:19:00.479 You remember I got the Butler jersey, the my neck 0:19:00.560 --> 0:19:03.800 being down here, like, yes, it was nasty. That's crazy. 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:06.560 Y'all didn't Mike green Wood them jersey. That's not right. 0:19:06.680 --> 0:19:10.200 Yeah, y'all had the same I remember, yeah, I remember, Yeah, 0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:14.119 but you get drafted about d C and you was 0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:15.800 at DC had at a really good time. 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:21.080 I mean, so you had what good time for d C. 0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:24.520 It's a good time. D has a rebuild, moget into it. 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:29.000 It was, it was born in a rebuild mode. My 0:19:29.920 --> 0:19:33.440 first year lockout year started off on eighteen. 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:40.240 Yeah, rough, So I don't know what to say. A 0:19:40.280 --> 0:19:40.680 good time. 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:42.800 You should tell people how to lock out work though, 0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:45.159 Like as a young guy that was getting drafted, you 0:19:45.600 --> 0:19:49.399 got no money and you get drafted the NBA and 0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:51.640 now you got to figure it out for what three 0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:52.359 four months? 0:19:52.880 --> 0:19:53.680 Like four five months. 0:19:53.680 --> 0:19:56.080 I was still here in Andy working out, trying to 0:19:56.280 --> 0:19:58.840 my degree and got thrown at a bought you with him. 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:02.720 In the league. But it's real tough. 0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:04.879 You gotta stay ready to never know what's gonna happen, 0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:07.840 and you know he's got to be up and ready 0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:11.080 to move in a second. But when I got there, uh, 0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:13.920 the team was kind of wasn't the best team ever 0:20:14.000 --> 0:20:14.520 put together. 0:20:15.200 --> 0:20:18.919 I can say that. And I just kind of had 0:20:18.920 --> 0:20:20.720 to figure out on fly some great vests to help me. 0:20:20.760 --> 0:20:23.320 Together because the team I'm telling the team was like wow, 0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:27.439 started off eighteen and then we're playing Philly. 0:20:27.920 --> 0:20:29.320 Because lock I was very close. 0:20:29.480 --> 0:20:32.040 I was playing Philly like every other week, three times 0:20:32.080 --> 0:20:35.960 when they had lou Ellen, Drew Dre It was just 0:20:36.160 --> 0:20:36.960 it wasn't a good. 0:20:36.840 --> 0:20:37.520 Match up for us. 0:20:38.880 --> 0:20:41.840 You have some good Knights in DC, definitely had some 0:20:41.920 --> 0:20:45.199 good nights and it was a rookie going in. I'm 0:20:45.240 --> 0:20:47.720 pretty sure y'all heard some stories, especially about that team. 0:20:50.720 --> 0:20:53.600 I'll leave it at that, that team on that team, 0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:59.359 so Roger Mason and also with Sean Lewis and Evans 0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:03.000 you played with play with MoMA so they know took 0:21:03.040 --> 0:21:04.440 me oneaf they win and let me and let me 0:21:04.560 --> 0:21:07.920 understand this at how the NBA works, Like, continue to work, 0:21:08.040 --> 0:21:11.159 be a good pro crazy thing album, second round picks too, 0:21:11.400 --> 0:21:14.439 like we shot it. I'm gonna say Mace wasn't just grinded. 0:21:14.600 --> 0:21:16.560 So it was there to help me out a lot 0:21:18.160 --> 0:21:18.520 for sure. 0:21:18.880 --> 0:21:22.480 Now, obviously did you like that team, what that Washington 0:21:22.480 --> 0:21:25.040 team let's put together? No, yeah, y'all definitely needed a 0:21:25.080 --> 0:21:26.240 lot of work. You know what I'm saying. But it 0:21:26.359 --> 0:21:28.000 was just a crazy I just wanted you to bring 0:21:28.000 --> 0:21:29.760 it up because I remember I had a crazy streak. 0:21:29.840 --> 0:21:31.800 Man, that's a crazy way to get into the NBA. 0:21:32.160 --> 0:21:33.119 Yeah, it was. 0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:36.119 It was only eighteen flip songs as a coach. He 0:21:36.200 --> 0:21:39.720 got fired. Tell a lot of young guys try and 0:21:39.760 --> 0:21:40.360 figure it out. 0:21:40.760 --> 0:21:41.200 Mm hmm. 0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:43.680 Now you go from the first benture to Washington, what's 0:21:43.680 --> 0:21:45.320 the next team you want to or after that and 0:21:45.400 --> 0:21:45.800 went to the. 0:21:45.880 --> 0:21:49.920 Main red Claus go back to the G League drawing board. 0:21:50.119 --> 0:21:54.160 Work it out killed there though, Yeah, crazy. 0:21:54.200 --> 0:21:56.680 I was putting up, putting up some good numbers, planning 0:21:56.760 --> 0:21:59.959 on Doc River system. That's when he was in Boston. 0:22:00.480 --> 0:22:02.119 So I was basically putting up the same numbers like 0:22:02.200 --> 0:22:06.080 Rondo was on like twenty fifteen and eighteen. I was 0:22:06.160 --> 0:22:07.639 more of a score so I was in like thirty 0:22:07.760 --> 0:22:12.199 ten and twelve. I mean I like, I actually did 0:22:12.320 --> 0:22:15.160 two ten days with Philly. Then I ended up going 0:22:15.200 --> 0:22:19.240 to Atlanta nigging up with this guy. Yes, sir, we 0:22:19.400 --> 0:22:20.920 have for the next three four years. 0:22:21.040 --> 0:22:24.240 I would say, yeah, I remember the first day you came. 0:22:24.400 --> 0:22:27.800 I was like, okay, like I don't fuck with him, 0:22:29.080 --> 0:22:30.600 like you know what I mean in my head, he 0:22:30.720 --> 0:22:33.880 coming to still like about to play, about to play, 0:22:34.440 --> 0:22:37.200 like that's my mindset. Well, then when I got annoying, 0:22:37.359 --> 0:22:40.200 it was like he cool as hell, and then I 0:22:40.280 --> 0:22:42.639 wanted to do everything I could to help him. I 0:22:42.720 --> 0:22:44.639 wanted to see him kill. And we had like a 0:22:46.040 --> 0:22:54.000 group hate. Like we just we just bonded over some things. 0:22:54.200 --> 0:22:56.760 It was like cool. It was me and a lot 0:22:56.800 --> 0:23:01.600 of other people the same way. It just bonded. We 0:23:01.680 --> 0:23:04.360 had a group eight. So it's all right, what's hold 0:23:04.359 --> 0:23:10.520 on with that little giants run? Yeah? Okay, what do 0:23:10.560 --> 0:23:12.679 you call it? The little giants run that you had 0:23:13.880 --> 0:23:17.280 in the league? What you got games in a row? 0:23:17.400 --> 0:23:17.560 Yeah? 0:23:18.800 --> 0:23:20.960 I was on that team. It's fine. 0:23:21.000 --> 0:23:23.280 We had a lot of fun, too much fun. I 0:23:23.359 --> 0:23:25.520 remember when she I was like about to get paid. 0:23:25.560 --> 0:23:28.240 We played in the playoffs against the Pacers and I 0:23:28.280 --> 0:23:30.320 didn't get the set back in the game because Sheill. 0:23:30.160 --> 0:23:34.479 And Michael was hooping. I was like, damn they killing. 0:23:35.280 --> 0:23:37.720 We went back home for game six and I smoked it, 0:23:40.400 --> 0:23:42.880 bro let you down, b y'all one Game. 0:23:42.800 --> 0:23:45.880 Five for us home and smoked the eight one match 0:23:45.960 --> 0:23:47.680 up we're supposed to win that ye were supposed to 0:23:47.720 --> 0:23:48.080 win down. 0:23:48.080 --> 0:23:51.920 I smoked that. I did job, bro, You and Michael 0:23:51.960 --> 0:23:52.840 was clowning that game. 0:23:53.359 --> 0:23:55.359 But that team was so special just because everyone like 0:23:56.200 --> 0:23:58.960 got along off the court. Yeah, you know, we had 0:23:59.000 --> 0:24:01.119 the real ones in the front playing bou Ray the 0:24:01.240 --> 0:24:02.720 other the other ones in the back playing. 0:24:04.640 --> 0:24:11.359 What would you at? Joe Cars? When I was a 0:24:11.400 --> 0:24:12.560 great team to hang out with. 0:24:12.640 --> 0:24:14.719 Everybody you went to the Atlanta I mean, you went 0:24:14.760 --> 0:24:17.159 to Atlanta, got settled for real. That's your crib and 0:24:17.200 --> 0:24:19.600 everything I knew he was. Once you brought the crib, 0:24:19.640 --> 0:24:22.240 I'm like, yeah, he like he loved He ain't going nowhere. 0:24:22.359 --> 0:24:25.200 He like, I'm still there to this day, tapped in 0:24:25.320 --> 0:24:28.200 with the city. Now, I get a lot of love there, 0:24:28.320 --> 0:24:33.520 like a special place in my heart. Sure too, for 0:24:33.680 --> 0:24:34.359 different reasons. 0:24:35.000 --> 0:24:36.959 But I grew up there. 0:24:36.960 --> 0:24:40.639 I went from a little kids man in Atlanta, so 0:24:40.800 --> 0:24:42.680 that's all. It got a special place for me. I 0:24:42.840 --> 0:24:45.240 made some long lasting friendships there. 0:24:45.800 --> 0:24:47.240 Ship. Do you think that team could have won the 0:24:47.320 --> 0:24:50.840 championship if Lebron wasn't in the East? Hell? 0:24:50.960 --> 0:24:53.840 Yeah yeah, if Lebron w wasn't playing, Yeah, yeah, could 0:24:53.880 --> 0:24:56.280 have won the ship. Yeah we beat everybody else. Who 0:24:56.280 --> 0:25:00.040 would y'all facing the finals Golden State, Now. 0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:05.960 They wouldn't like that. They were like that. They weren't 0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:10.360 like that yet. Yeah, they wasn't yet. 0:25:10.600 --> 0:25:13.600 That's the first year they wanted y'all beating that team 0:25:14.560 --> 0:25:16.760 that wouldn't know that what they wouldn't them yet they. 0:25:16.680 --> 0:25:18.639 Were still like I never wanted the year they beat 0:25:18.720 --> 0:25:21.520 us though they love to go on state. Remember everybody 0:25:21.640 --> 0:25:24.639 was hurt. Bron Kyrie hurt his knee, all right, So 0:25:24.720 --> 0:25:26.560 what makes you think y'all was going? What do you 0:25:26.560 --> 0:25:29.600 need to say that everybody was hurt when they fourteen 0:25:29.640 --> 0:25:32.400 the full roster? I know, but that's Lebron and them, 0:25:32.520 --> 0:25:38.840 not y'all. What what what? Let's mash it up. I 0:25:38.920 --> 0:25:40.760 got fur a star. That's have fun. That's what we're 0:25:40.760 --> 0:25:44.160 here for. They just wasn't they wasn't they wasn't them yet? 0:25:44.400 --> 0:25:47.800 Like Jeff definitely supposed to be an All Star, Al 0:25:48.359 --> 0:25:50.000 for sure, supposed to be an All Star. 0:25:50.920 --> 0:25:55.000 H p M for sure. Now who else who you likeing? Now? 0:25:55.680 --> 0:25:59.680 Freaky Cow? I ain't mad at it. He went on 0:25:59.720 --> 0:25:59.960 the run. 0:26:00.320 --> 0:26:02.920 You helped them? Just say you the real VP of 0:26:02.960 --> 0:26:05.639 the team. I didn't play in the NBA Take him 0:26:05.680 --> 0:26:08.359 twenty six All Star Jersey round with it, bro? 0:26:08.560 --> 0:26:10.320 I get it. But when we get to the. 0:26:10.359 --> 0:26:20.399 Finals for one, bro, that's nasty work, right, Sean List 0:26:20.560 --> 0:26:24.960 and Harrison Barnes Andrea. 0:26:25.840 --> 0:26:31.560 Was he Yeah? He was. He was yeah, Draymond Green Christmas. Yeah, 0:26:31.840 --> 0:26:34.480 but ship we played them, We went one even. We 0:26:34.480 --> 0:26:36.240 beat them in a lot of they beat us, and say. 0:26:36.119 --> 0:26:38.359 Fair enough, bro, y'all beat a lot of teams in 0:26:38.720 --> 0:26:41.480 great memory. Man, y'all want sixty one game? 0:26:43.720 --> 0:26:50.880 I remember getting reports he definitely had like thirty five. 0:26:51.440 --> 0:26:52.120 But we beat them. 0:26:53.080 --> 0:26:55.320 Y'all had a y'all had a good team, bro, y'all, 0:26:55.440 --> 0:26:58.359 y'all really did, Bro. I just matched up because we 0:26:58.640 --> 0:26:59.680 switched one through five. 0:27:00.480 --> 0:27:02.280 Do you think we'll get to the finals if Lebron 0:27:02.359 --> 0:27:05.560 wasn't playing. I mean, look, that run was magical, bro, 0:27:06.359 --> 0:27:11.080 that German run getting there for sure. The thing about 0:27:11.160 --> 0:27:13.439 Lebron he we just didn't have nobody to match up 0:27:13.480 --> 0:27:14.879 with Lebron. No facts. 0:27:15.040 --> 0:27:19.200 So Golden State, this was before they found all their superpowers, 0:27:19.520 --> 0:27:21.040 like only they got there. 0:27:21.080 --> 0:27:25.080 They did it as all only only the whole level. 0:27:25.280 --> 0:27:29.040 Yeah, Steph had superpowers, Clay was coming into this, everybody 0:27:29.080 --> 0:27:31.760 else was still they wouldn't all the way there yet, 0:27:32.680 --> 0:27:34.480 we ain't. We matched up cool with him because we 0:27:34.520 --> 0:27:36.720 could switch one through five with them. We couldn't switch 0:27:36.800 --> 0:27:40.520 Lebron like I can't switch on bron Man it's sucking Christmas. 0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:43.680 I just think Sean Liveson would have been an X Factor. 0:27:43.760 --> 0:27:51.119 Bro were smooth straight, you couldn't post that big. This 0:27:51.320 --> 0:27:54.639 is six seven. We shooting right over living with the ring. 0:27:54.720 --> 0:27:55.679 He got knock the man too. 0:27:55.960 --> 0:28:00.760 Yeah, we shooting three. We started three point ship, oh ship, 0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:02.680 the five man shooting threes. 0:28:02.840 --> 0:28:05.280 That was us that was on the on the pocket and. 0:28:07.640 --> 0:28:10.520 Him and Pero started that three point shooting Green Bro 0:28:11.640 --> 0:28:13.280 shout out to that Lanta Hawks bros. 0:28:13.320 --> 0:28:17.640 At fourteen, out to my god, man, give it a lot. 0:28:18.080 --> 0:28:20.520 That was That was actually a really fun time because 0:28:20.520 --> 0:28:23.520 also music was just popping crazy at that time. 0:28:23.920 --> 0:28:25.000 That's what I wanted to ask y'all. 0:28:25.040 --> 0:28:26.800 I mean that Roe was crazy, but at the same 0:28:26.840 --> 0:28:29.440 time where y'all was in Atlanta, like the new wave 0:28:29.480 --> 0:28:31.639 of Atlanta artists is going crazy. You got a future 0:28:31.760 --> 0:28:34.560 reaching his pinnacle, You got migos coming out like y'all 0:28:34.600 --> 0:28:35.680 got to see them early on. 0:28:35.840 --> 0:28:36.240 How was that? 0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:39.520 Because I imagine we already know how lantand what off 0:28:39.560 --> 0:28:41.640 the course probably way better than the corner at that time, 0:28:41.680 --> 0:28:44.040 Perreo because the Bakero Fresh everybody was getting the run 0:28:44.080 --> 0:28:44.520 at the time. 0:28:44.920 --> 0:28:51.200 Shild was really outside. I was outside. I'm on ten 0:28:51.320 --> 0:29:00.880 days and not guarantee I was outside. Uh, crazy thing 0:29:01.080 --> 0:29:02.960 is I'm real good friends with two chains. 0:29:03.680 --> 0:29:07.640 Okay, dude does why so the first day Budd got 0:29:07.680 --> 0:29:10.080 the job, Me and changes in the in the prey 0:29:10.120 --> 0:29:11.480 in the back working out. 0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:12.840 Bud come in. 0:29:13.000 --> 0:29:14.960 He don't know anything about like the hip hop scene, 0:29:15.040 --> 0:29:18.320 musical change, hit her down like I'm still on my 0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:20.120 ten day, not guaranteeing. 0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:20.640 Like hey man, you gotta do this. 0:29:20.800 --> 0:29:23.400 Cut all these people up, and like it's like my 0:29:23.520 --> 0:29:25.360 home He thinks it's like my homeboy telling it. 0:29:25.440 --> 0:29:27.320 It's like, who is this show? 0:29:27.640 --> 0:29:28.840 Like you to be out of here? 0:29:31.120 --> 0:29:34.880 Who's just telling me all of this? Good chancey, bro, 0:29:35.000 --> 0:29:37.400 you got you got Ship. You don't know who you 0:29:37.520 --> 0:29:39.320 are my stuff. 0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:42.240 I know you're on the college park sky trying to 0:29:42.680 --> 0:29:54.200 right now, and I'm just it's funny because I can imagine, 0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:56.000 but it's like not giving it to you. 0:29:56.800 --> 0:29:58.800 You probably had some marker right here. Ship. 0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:03.760 Let him cut people Rookie and Rookie did I want 0:30:03.760 --> 0:30:07.080 to that? I wish I could see his face though, imagine, 0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:08.640 come down. You don't know who his due is and 0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:11.120 you know we just walk in. We're just hanging out 0:30:11.240 --> 0:30:16.880 like Shawn's homeboy. Serious but funny as hell. 0:30:18.520 --> 0:30:23.880 He probably had that. Definitely have that. What the fuck 0:30:24.440 --> 0:30:29.800 who he just got the funk out of here, But 0:30:29.920 --> 0:30:32.280 sure had sure was that birthday Bass and Ship. He 0:30:32.400 --> 0:30:33.480 wasn't all the way inside. 0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:36.120 When I say inside, I mean like sure when he 0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:38.600 when he got established in Atlanta. You know he had 0:30:38.600 --> 0:30:41.360 a family, so he wouldn't go out with us, like 0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:42.360 I'm sure you're coming out. 0:30:42.360 --> 0:30:46.480 He's like, nah, player, i'd be. I'd be going back 0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:49.960 to the arena every time I go back to the arena. 0:30:50.320 --> 0:30:52.560 We kind of live in the same spot, same area. 0:30:53.320 --> 0:31:04.480 Me driving, I keep I ain't gonna say. 0:31:07.440 --> 0:31:19.360 That's a wow boy, it's crazy. 0:31:19.480 --> 0:31:24.160 After Chicken Wings, bro. 0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:27.320 You know, like sometimes you don't play a lot, like 0:31:27.400 --> 0:31:29.720 in the league, you go upstairs and work out game. 0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:32.920 So I'll go up and work out in He didn't play. 0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:36.120 Thirty minutes he out, He's gone. I'm traving just. 0:31:36.240 --> 0:31:43.640 At the light the Chicken Wings on the street. Fun. 0:31:46.480 --> 0:31:51.040 That's funny, hell man, that was my spot though I 0:31:51.080 --> 0:31:52.720 don't see what I'm saying. Atlanta was very well for 0:31:52.800 --> 0:31:55.520 you established yourself as a as a player in this league. 0:31:55.960 --> 0:31:57.160 Then you get a chance to go to you know 0:31:57.160 --> 0:31:59.040 what I'm saying, a different situation to get some more minutes. 0:31:59.040 --> 0:32:00.960 How was that going to Utah for you? Career wise? 0:32:01.800 --> 0:32:04.800 It was great. I was just having a relationship with Claim. 0:32:04.960 --> 0:32:07.200 He was part of the staff in Atlanta, so he 0:32:07.360 --> 0:32:10.280 kind of uh knew my skill sets and know what 0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:12.440 I was capable of doing. Then it's also just have 0:32:12.480 --> 0:32:14.720 an opportunity to go in just like play right away 0:32:15.160 --> 0:32:18.320 and start. There's been a great team in Atlanta. You 0:32:18.360 --> 0:32:20.320 always have a lot of good players. You know Jeff's 0:32:20.320 --> 0:32:22.640 a good player. Then say that then the shoulder at 0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:25.040 the time. So it's kind of tough to get minutes 0:32:25.040 --> 0:32:27.440 consistently and it's got to be a pro be ready. 0:32:29.080 --> 0:32:31.840 But also want to appreciate the lining. But allowing me 0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:35.120 to go could be selfish, know just have me sitting 0:32:35.120 --> 0:32:36.760 there because you just never know somebody can get hurt 0:32:36.840 --> 0:32:37.560 or any situation. 0:32:37.680 --> 0:32:40.760 But they allowed me to move on and develop my game. 0:32:41.400 --> 0:32:44.720 That's far and it's not too you don't see, it's 0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:46.680 not too common to sy organizations do right by people, 0:32:47.280 --> 0:32:49.320 and when they do sometimes it may they may be 0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:51.200 handpicking with that, but for them to show you love 0:32:51.280 --> 0:32:53.000 like that to put your situation, you can actually play 0:32:53.000 --> 0:32:55.440 as far. Like you said, a first all was going 0:32:55.440 --> 0:32:56.680 back at each other. You know what I'm saying was 0:32:56.720 --> 0:32:58.640 he got the Utah the first game. 0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:00.800 I was so happy for w Man to see him 0:33:00.840 --> 0:33:03.400 get a chance to be the starter do his thing. 0:33:04.160 --> 0:33:06.920 Oh he had a good game against us, but I 0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:09.120 think we probably won though we won. 0:33:09.960 --> 0:33:14.160 Uh. I can't remember, man, when you kill you your 0:33:14.440 --> 0:33:16.480 you want to little something. I don't hold you. But 0:33:18.640 --> 0:33:20.680 I killed you all though, So he probably had a 0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:22.920 good game. I can't remember. If I get eight, I'm killing. 0:33:23.520 --> 0:33:32.480 Oh yeah, we want killing transition. I can't start. On 0:33:32.560 --> 0:33:35.000 the first day of getting there, we played all like 0:33:35.080 --> 0:33:37.200 right away, right you did? Oh yeah you did get 0:33:37.200 --> 0:33:39.360 traded and play right away. Yeah you're right you did. 0:33:39.920 --> 0:33:41.480 It was a crazy part. I was in practice. I 0:33:41.480 --> 0:33:44.120 couldn't get no wraps to day the day before. You 0:33:44.240 --> 0:33:50.080 know that. Don't like practice, get me not Let me listen, kids, 0:33:50.120 --> 0:33:55.720 I love practice, but but that was a good way. Jeff. 0:33:55.920 --> 0:33:58.600 Let me let me get out there and like play. Yeah, 0:33:59.040 --> 0:34:04.680 like work and work on the kill them give me 0:34:04.960 --> 0:34:10.239 bro ain't let me out there. M damn it. What's 0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:10.719 your head? 0:34:13.000 --> 0:34:13.200 Yeah? 0:34:13.280 --> 0:34:16.839 He came off the bench. It was starting and man 0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:22.120 asking all the questions, was the foreigner, white skinned buddy Dante? 0:34:22.800 --> 0:34:28.919 Oh have been Dante? Yeah, thirty one minutes the whole game. Sure, 0:34:30.160 --> 0:34:32.400 he let me. I got was my was my shooting percent? 0:34:32.840 --> 0:34:35.520 He had to be three for sixteen. Damn. 0:34:35.640 --> 0:34:42.560 I gave myself a chance. I go ahead, give myself 0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:48.960 a chance. Assists Nah, Yeah, Rudy damn. 0:34:51.680 --> 0:34:52.680 When he was weak too. 0:34:53.120 --> 0:34:58.759 Yeah, while you was in Utah, you probably one of 0:34:58.800 --> 0:35:02.359 the most important games about bsketball history, man, Kobe's final game. 0:35:02.800 --> 0:35:04.880 How was that atmosphere building up to that and how 0:35:05.040 --> 0:35:06.800 was it to play in that game? Because everybody in 0:35:06.880 --> 0:35:09.080 the world wanted y'all to lose that game, and y'all 0:35:09.200 --> 0:35:10.719 was feel like, I know y'all was right out of 0:35:10.719 --> 0:35:12.840 playoff implications, but y'a wouldn't try to let Kobe in. 0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:13.399 That game either. 0:35:13.840 --> 0:35:15.160 Yeah, it was like we had to wait till like 0:35:15.239 --> 0:35:17.040 half time to see it was gonna make the playoffs. 0:35:18.160 --> 0:35:19.839 We were we were trying to win a lot of people, 0:35:19.880 --> 0:35:22.239 get it, Get it confused that like we just letting 0:35:22.280 --> 0:35:25.640 Kobe do all that. Like Kobe also shot fifty times, 0:35:25.960 --> 0:35:27.320 not hard to shoot fifty shots. 0:35:27.120 --> 0:35:29.400 In one basketball game. That's nuts for it's anybody I 0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:33.040 know who would do it. But uh, it was. 0:35:33.160 --> 0:35:35.680 Atmosphere was crazy, like the President was there, like we 0:35:35.800 --> 0:35:37.719 come in, you know, just go down the tunnel state 0:35:38.200 --> 0:35:42.520 like everybody out there with a K forty seven secret service. 0:35:42.560 --> 0:35:44.200 It was, it was, it was. It was amazing. 0:35:44.600 --> 0:35:47.560 Kanye Jay, all these people sitting like second row for 0:35:48.719 --> 0:35:51.000 if you go back and watch the take had zero, 0:35:51.239 --> 0:35:51.720 that's sixty. 0:35:52.800 --> 0:35:54.920 We get scored on it though, like pull it up, 0:35:55.760 --> 0:35:59.560 you you living? That's the first I don't get I 0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:01.040 ain't get it. Part of that ship. 0:36:01.320 --> 0:36:03.279 No, that's one of my favorite players. Coach is my 0:36:03.320 --> 0:36:06.439 favorite playss. I didn't get any of that. You switch 0:36:06.480 --> 0:36:12.719 on him, but Louise, they're gonna pull it out. But 0:36:12.960 --> 0:36:16.800 the way is letting Julius ran to set them screens outrageous. 0:36:17.600 --> 0:36:20.640 I had to get Kobe open, bro, but Kobe it was. 0:36:20.719 --> 0:36:20.920 It was. 0:36:21.040 --> 0:36:23.080 It was just different, like no matter what he did, 0:36:23.760 --> 0:36:26.920 everybody cry like, oh who this turn is? This it's 0:36:26.920 --> 0:36:30.279 the word game kind of playing. It was the last 0:36:30.640 --> 0:36:35.360 what he ended with sixty two? Yeah on fifty shots. 0:36:36.280 --> 0:36:39.359 That's the way to go out, bull, I swear for sure, 0:36:40.719 --> 0:36:41.480 fifty shots. 0:36:41.840 --> 0:36:44.080 Yeah, I don't see nobody else shooting in my life. 0:36:48.480 --> 0:36:52.560 My last game, Yeah, I didn't touch the floor one 0:36:52.680 --> 0:36:56.600 about you, I say the fifty piece though, you know 0:36:56.600 --> 0:36:57.000 what I'm saying. 0:36:57.280 --> 0:36:59.239 Christ Like pre game Lou was on the team, it 0:36:59.320 --> 0:37:00.920 was like he about to shoot fifty times. I'm like, 0:37:01.000 --> 0:37:04.120 he ain't bot shooting fifty shots. Came out there and 0:37:04.239 --> 0:37:04.520 did it. 0:37:04.600 --> 0:37:05.120 Like every time. 0:37:05.400 --> 0:37:07.920 Somebody wide open just swinging at him. Let him go 0:37:08.120 --> 0:37:10.359 and the crazy party. He started off super super slow 0:37:11.000 --> 0:37:13.600 and then like start making like eight baskets in the 0:37:13.719 --> 0:37:16.360 road and the whole stadium, just this room for. 0:37:16.920 --> 0:37:18.759 You found him, if you found him, like take the 0:37:18.800 --> 0:37:20.360 side out of everybody, boing boom. 0:37:21.719 --> 0:37:23.719 So it was. It's a little different. It had to 0:37:23.800 --> 0:37:26.880 be an amazing atmosphere. Though. I couldn't imagine playing in 0:37:26.920 --> 0:37:28.239 the game. But I would have loved to have been 0:37:28.280 --> 0:37:30.319 in that game. What were you doing? 0:37:30.360 --> 0:37:32.120 I would have been trying to go at him. Yeah, 0:37:32.320 --> 0:37:34.799 I would have been trying to guard him. I would 0:37:34.840 --> 0:37:39.480 have been extra as hell your name too. I would 0:37:39.480 --> 0:37:42.440 have been talking ship. That wouldn't have worked. Man was 0:37:42.480 --> 0:37:45.440 gonna work, but he was gonna get them points whatever. 0:37:45.680 --> 0:37:48.719 But but it was that was that was special. I 0:37:48.719 --> 0:37:50.200 would have been dealing bro It's like I said, my 0:37:50.239 --> 0:37:54.560 favorite player all time, I would have been dealing Brooks. 0:37:54.560 --> 0:37:57.560 I've been like, Kobe's not that good. Wow. 0:37:58.600 --> 0:38:00.440 He wanted people to do that though he didn't want 0:38:00.480 --> 0:38:03.200 people to you know, yeah, let him do nothing, go 0:38:03.320 --> 0:38:04.400 crazy like it's a regular. 0:38:04.719 --> 0:38:06.479 He worked for it. That wasn't not easy. 0:38:06.560 --> 0:38:08.680 I know what I'm saying, Like talk talk ship, Like 0:38:10.360 --> 0:38:12.279 you got the Kobe from that day? Yeah, I got 0:38:12.600 --> 0:38:15.160 mama day. I actually got him. He was able to 0:38:15.160 --> 0:38:15.759 sign him for me. 0:38:16.120 --> 0:38:21.200 He signed him. Yeah, damn I should have played. I 0:38:21.440 --> 0:38:23.960 should have played him, but I didn't. I got him. 0:38:23.960 --> 0:38:27.840 The only thing I got signed from Kobe was he 0:38:27.960 --> 0:38:31.920 signed a card. I always did it work Kobe's all time. 0:38:31.960 --> 0:38:34.279 Whatever we played him, I wouldn't wear a shoot. But 0:38:34.520 --> 0:38:36.600 I can't be on the court looking like that. Yeah, 0:38:37.000 --> 0:38:39.839 what about you. I ain't hooping Kobe to the end? 0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:44.319 DA data, So I ain't hooping to Kobe's to the end. Really, 0:38:44.680 --> 0:38:47.400 I was hooping in Jordan, Tans. I was trying to 0:38:47.440 --> 0:38:51.239 get signed by Tiam Jordan. It ain't work, Damn, Joe. 0:38:51.360 --> 0:38:53.360 Joe didn't put in the cowboy Joe ain't with me 0:38:55.480 --> 0:39:01.160 at the club. Off the court, you got the I 0:39:01.280 --> 0:39:08.480 go play role. That's crazy because she was almost seen 0:39:08.560 --> 0:39:12.560 Lebron too. I used to wear Lebron's too. He won 0:39:12.920 --> 0:39:15.520 with me. You go time with Rich. I was like, damn, 0:39:15.560 --> 0:39:16.000 I can't do it. 0:39:16.000 --> 0:39:21.200 It's quiet, all right, I should have m hmm, fuck 0:39:21.280 --> 0:39:21.560 that up. 0:39:21.920 --> 0:39:23.640 Shout with Jar, shout to the guy. 0:39:26.280 --> 0:39:32.480 Oh yeah, we love Jr. So obviously, man, you know 0:39:32.520 --> 0:39:34.560 what I'm saying. Head this time in the leg transition 0:39:34.600 --> 0:39:36.279 to different things. What you got going on right now? 0:39:36.360 --> 0:39:41.480 Man? Right now? Do college basketball CBS sports analysts. 0:39:41.560 --> 0:39:44.680 Yes, working in the front office with with the NBA team, 0:39:44.719 --> 0:39:46.680 doing some pro scout and trying to find some talent. 0:39:48.320 --> 0:39:51.279 No, hanging out with the family and kids. So got 0:39:51.320 --> 0:39:52.439 a good life, blessed life. 0:39:53.000 --> 0:39:56.480 The crazy part that's playing multiple teams, you know, meet 0:39:56.480 --> 0:39:58.000 a lot of people, have a lot of connections, and 0:39:58.080 --> 0:40:00.080 it's no pending from me now and that make this 0:40:00.200 --> 0:40:03.520 transition of being a retired player. I was gonna ask 0:40:03.560 --> 0:40:05.600 about that even with Jeff, Like you, guys always have 0:40:05.680 --> 0:40:08.120 good rapport with different people, and people don't understand that 0:40:08.280 --> 0:40:09.600 the NBA fraternity is different. 0:40:09.640 --> 0:40:11.279 Once you're in you can really be that for life. 0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:13.840 You've got good rapport and it's dope to see the 0:40:13.920 --> 0:40:15.879 network and the stuff and how it works. But now 0:40:15.920 --> 0:40:19.960 it's interesting because, like we said, Butler, definitely all you reparations, 0:40:20.120 --> 0:40:23.000 but the nil shit going on back to back championships. 0:40:23.040 --> 0:40:23.160 Bro. 0:40:23.360 --> 0:40:26.239 Yeah, I had dinner with bad last night. I told him. 0:40:26.280 --> 0:40:28.160 At the same time, with not being in Butler the 0:40:28.200 --> 0:40:34.799 following year out transfer, for sure that. 0:40:34.880 --> 0:40:36.840 Bag would have been retarded. I got a mial some 0:40:37.840 --> 0:40:41.440 at one point five. It's definitely different around here. How 0:40:41.600 --> 0:40:42.840 was it? How was that taking in? 0:40:43.280 --> 0:40:45.120 I wonder like, as you're scouting, you know what I'm saying, 0:40:45.120 --> 0:40:46.800 you look at different kids and stuff going on that 0:40:46.920 --> 0:40:47.919 could potentially pros. 0:40:48.320 --> 0:40:50.000 Is that play a factor in it? Like how they 0:40:50.080 --> 0:40:51.239 handle the nil at all? 0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:53.360 I mean, I don't know if that's not being cocker watching, 0:40:53.440 --> 0:40:55.600 but just like the mannerisms, right, because that does need 0:40:55.640 --> 0:40:59.080 a different aspect of recruiting with people for me, not 0:40:59.360 --> 0:41:01.600 not really uh, you know, at this side, you're not 0:41:01.680 --> 0:41:04.080 really dealing with that's more like an agent of somebody 0:41:04.160 --> 0:41:06.920 else got you. But you know, it's a lot of 0:41:06.960 --> 0:41:10.400 people who's very good, you know, playing basketball, So a 0:41:10.440 --> 0:41:12.200 lot of stuff like off the court that stops them 0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:15.000 from getting to the next level, Like until they you know, 0:41:15.120 --> 0:41:17.359 they might be hanging out with an A B hend 0:41:17.560 --> 0:41:20.839 all the time. Yeah, being a wrong spy, wrong time, 0:41:21.680 --> 0:41:24.279 red flag right there, right there, Now that's my guy. 0:41:25.000 --> 0:41:26.480 But look look for stuff like that because you know, 0:41:26.560 --> 0:41:28.759 once you're able to get somebody a lot of money, 0:41:28.760 --> 0:41:30.600 a lot of access, you doesn't know how they're gonna act. 0:41:31.640 --> 0:41:34.000 No basketball, Basketball is like a small piece. There's no 0:41:34.160 --> 0:41:37.120 more about your character and no man have to be 0:41:37.160 --> 0:41:40.160 a great teammate. It's the hardest thing the NBA. Everyone 0:41:40.239 --> 0:41:42.759 evers twenty points at some point in time, gonna go there, 0:41:43.320 --> 0:41:44.960 and you might have to be a cheerleader for a 0:41:45.000 --> 0:41:47.160 few for a few games, and to see how you respond. 0:41:47.200 --> 0:41:49.040 Are you gonna be mad at the coach or the 0:41:49.080 --> 0:41:51.080 assistant coach of the ball boy who has nothing to 0:41:51.160 --> 0:41:52.560 do with this, Like you're gonna take it out on 0:41:52.680 --> 0:41:55.000 now you know it's not the kind of people that 0:41:55.040 --> 0:41:56.800 you want to work with on a day to day basis. 0:41:57.640 --> 0:42:01.520 Sure you like commentating, though, see yourself doing that For 0:42:01.600 --> 0:42:05.120 a long time. I enjoyed doing it. Get to watch 0:42:05.520 --> 0:42:07.200 a lot of basketball, stay around the game. 0:42:07.560 --> 0:42:11.080 Yeah, it's a little different doing college instead of pros 0:42:11.320 --> 0:42:11.960 because you're. 0:42:13.360 --> 0:42:14.400 Not trying to talk bad. 0:42:14.280 --> 0:42:18.560 About anyone's like sign, everyone's trying to work and continue 0:42:18.600 --> 0:42:19.399 to get better. 0:42:20.200 --> 0:42:21.400 We'd love to call some games. 0:42:21.920 --> 0:42:25.520 See I'll sound at the arena, but a good Just 0:42:25.560 --> 0:42:30.359 give me all around and stay in touch with everybody. Cool, sure, man, 0:42:30.480 --> 0:42:33.440 marsh Maddis is still one of the craziest fucking basketball 0:42:33.560 --> 0:42:34.680 situations of all time. 0:42:35.120 --> 0:42:36.560 Obviously with you haven't experience in that. 0:42:37.040 --> 0:42:39.880 Do you think it's different now with the game as 0:42:39.920 --> 0:42:42.120 far as like, like Marshmallow, because we don't even have 0:42:42.200 --> 0:42:44.280 too many college players we get excited about it anymore. 0:42:44.760 --> 0:42:46.120 It's like we skip every so often. 0:42:46.200 --> 0:42:48.839 But back in y'all's days, it was every year every team, 0:42:49.080 --> 0:42:51.320 like not every team, but you have marquee teams and 0:42:51.360 --> 0:42:55.080 matchups every single year. Yeah, it's like totally different now. 0:42:55.160 --> 0:42:56.560 How do you stay in tech with them? Like, do 0:42:56.600 --> 0:42:58.000 you even get excited for that type of stuff? I 0:42:58.040 --> 0:42:59.920 know obviously what you're working you liked in with it, 0:43:00.120 --> 0:43:02.040 but is it even the same atmosphere? 0:43:02.200 --> 0:43:03.440 Like being removed from. 0:43:03.320 --> 0:43:05.839 It when you when you're able to go to the game, 0:43:05.880 --> 0:43:08.640 you're still able to feel it because it's like say 0:43:08.640 --> 0:43:10.440 here Indiana, like I you Purdue. 0:43:10.200 --> 0:43:12.080 No matter who's playing, you can just go to gaming 0:43:12.239 --> 0:43:15.200 and kind of feel it, feel the energy. Yeah, it's 0:43:15.239 --> 0:43:17.000 hard to keep up with it. With the transfer portal, 0:43:17.120 --> 0:43:18.200 people just been able to go. 0:43:18.400 --> 0:43:20.640 It makes sense school for school, so you know, sometimes 0:43:20.680 --> 0:43:24.360 I get lost on it with the players transferring. 0:43:24.440 --> 0:43:26.080 Then also the sixth. 0:43:25.960 --> 0:43:28.279 Year kind of through everything off that cover year. Yeah, 0:43:28.360 --> 0:43:30.719 so once all of that stuff settled in, people can 0:43:30.760 --> 0:43:33.680 start no turning back in with their favorite players. 0:43:33.719 --> 0:43:35.680 And I hope we get some loalty coming in soon 0:43:36.360 --> 0:43:38.200 with all this, but I don't see how long how 0:43:38.280 --> 0:43:39.960 much longer n IL stuff can work. 0:43:40.320 --> 0:43:42.280 How do you feel about Butler moving to the Big East. 0:43:43.280 --> 0:43:46.040 I think it's a great move. You have some good 0:43:46.120 --> 0:43:49.520 years well Coastal Valves coach in the top ten in 0:43:49.560 --> 0:43:54.320 the country. All that right now from downtime, but can 0:43:54.400 --> 0:43:57.640 says downtime when they got the two national champs over 0:43:57.680 --> 0:44:00.840 the past few years back to back. Knowing the conference 0:44:01.080 --> 0:44:02.920 to conference, I think it's one of the best conference, 0:44:03.400 --> 0:44:04.320 better than the a c C. 0:44:04.680 --> 0:44:10.200 You ask me, CAPTI each a c C. I don't know. 0:44:12.760 --> 0:44:14.320 You like who you liking the a c C and 0:44:14.400 --> 0:44:17.360 buying some CC. But if you're going to Ukon against 0:44:17.360 --> 0:44:20.520 the board that you didn't gotta go Yuka. But like consistently, 0:44:20.600 --> 0:44:24.080 like Mark Quat, Billanova been good. 0:44:25.640 --> 0:44:31.680 They've been crazy talking about like twenty win teams for sure. 0:44:31.960 --> 0:44:35.080 Yeah they got an overall better conference. Yeah they gotta 0:44:35.400 --> 0:44:37.719 right now. But in the tournament I fear a couple 0:44:37.760 --> 0:44:40.000 of ACC teams a little bit more. I like Duke. 0:44:40.160 --> 0:44:45.640 I like Carolina all right, I like wait Flo way yeah, 0:44:45.680 --> 0:44:50.719 I like Florida State. I like Miami a lot. 0:44:51.880 --> 0:44:57.560 Quiet good Miami good shout okay, but they're not better. 0:44:58.040 --> 0:44:59.960 But like Miami was good because like you're talking about 0:45:00.120 --> 0:45:01.560 your pack, get the transfer and. 0:45:03.239 --> 0:45:05.520 You need that to be like at that at that 0:45:05.640 --> 0:45:08.200 high level in c State, I meant to see, how 0:45:08.320 --> 0:45:10.319 do it's gonna be this ship that's having all those 0:45:10.400 --> 0:45:11.400 freshmen coming in playing. 0:45:11.880 --> 0:45:14.600 Oh they're gonna I think they're gonna smack smack ship. 0:45:15.239 --> 0:45:16.680 So Cooper is the one. 0:45:17.800 --> 0:45:20.439 He's the one they let him cook the right, He's 0:45:20.440 --> 0:45:22.880 the one BROAI. 0:45:21.960 --> 0:45:25.000 That is pretty good too. No, they got a whip 0:45:25.040 --> 0:45:26.879 to they not. He ain't a woman man by any means. 0:45:26.920 --> 0:45:27.520 They got a whip. 0:45:27.560 --> 0:45:29.080 That's why I didn't understand why he was talking about 0:45:29.080 --> 0:45:32.680 them transfer. Everybody who transferred was with I'm like, that's crazy, bro. 0:45:33.000 --> 0:45:37.719 He the best player in college basketball Cooper. Yeah, nah, 0:45:38.280 --> 0:45:40.920 I gotta see right now. Even though even though it's 0:45:40.920 --> 0:45:43.560 people are aging there right now, he's still all them. 0:45:43.960 --> 0:45:48.440 He's the best prospects. Prospect playing college basketball is like different. 0:45:48.520 --> 0:45:52.680 Like we see Oscar she Way twenty and twenty and 0:45:52.760 --> 0:45:53.799 then go to the next step. 0:45:53.840 --> 0:45:55.680 He played for the Pacers. It's kind of hard for 0:45:55.760 --> 0:45:57.600 him to get out there and contribute and play at. 0:45:57.480 --> 0:45:57.960 A high level. 0:45:58.000 --> 0:46:01.439 But Cooper, Cooper Flag's path is different. Yeah, he's gonna 0:46:01.440 --> 0:46:04.799 be the best prot It's definitely different. But what I'm 0:46:04.800 --> 0:46:07.680 saying like it's different. But also also she was the 0:46:07.680 --> 0:46:09.879 player of the year. Like I don't think Cooper gonna 0:46:09.880 --> 0:46:10.520 get Player of the year. 0:46:10.880 --> 0:46:13.759 Yeah, noah, he probably won't get the acts. He's gonna 0:46:13.760 --> 0:46:17.400 get the more paper, gonna average like nine. Hell no, 0:46:20.640 --> 0:46:24.000 you know how I say between like nine and fourteen. 0:46:24.719 --> 0:46:26.360 It's not a big guy. He's not. 0:46:26.560 --> 0:46:30.160 It's not gonna be twenty twenty, It'll be thirteen fourteen, 0:46:30.280 --> 0:46:31.880 And he going in there with a whole bunch of 0:46:31.960 --> 0:46:32.919 other fresh going over. 0:46:32.800 --> 0:46:33.160 With a whip. 0:46:33.520 --> 0:46:35.760 They all trying to get I don't think they about 0:46:35.800 --> 0:46:39.160 the number two pick? Are you what I knowing about 0:46:39.160 --> 0:46:39.480 to be too? 0:46:39.640 --> 0:46:44.479 We had this culip it's okay Cooper player of the year, dude, 0:46:44.960 --> 0:46:46.040 national chair thinking. 0:46:45.840 --> 0:46:49.279 About old dude? Was that Carolina what's his name? Badcock back? 0:46:50.320 --> 0:46:55.800 For sure? Other players out they they're not going they're. 0:46:55.640 --> 0:46:59.000 Twenty four And for him on boy from from Kansas 0:47:00.200 --> 0:47:01.200 actually westling Fhace. 0:47:01.239 --> 0:47:03.960 You see play the here the kid from Notre Dame, 0:47:04.239 --> 0:47:06.520 the guard. Oh he nice, market. 0:47:07.760 --> 0:47:11.400 Shouts Indiana great great basketball player. 0:47:11.640 --> 0:47:19.600 Yeah cold, I'm cool. The great White Hope is on 0:47:19.680 --> 0:47:22.640 the way. Man. I gotta ask man what I'm saying 0:47:22.640 --> 0:47:23.160 off the court? 0:47:23.719 --> 0:47:26.080 I know how y'all went. How was like y'all kicking 0:47:26.120 --> 0:47:28.279 it off the court? Y'all talk about them tequila and sprites. Man, 0:47:28.600 --> 0:47:29.880 how y'all get like it in like that? 0:47:30.920 --> 0:47:33.120 I think it was more just like us loving the game. 0:47:33.520 --> 0:47:35.640 Like we had talk about basketball off the court, so 0:47:35.719 --> 0:47:38.120 we'd be like, man, how can we get better looking 0:47:38.160 --> 0:47:38.800 at stats? 0:47:38.880 --> 0:47:42.040 Watching games like this is all I gotta do to that. 0:47:42.560 --> 0:47:46.120 Minchell was really by the numbers. I can average twelve 0:47:46.200 --> 0:47:49.680 points the game, right, here, That'll give me six million years. 0:47:49.880 --> 0:47:51.919 Like we was like that, Like we were just trying 0:47:51.960 --> 0:47:54.600 to map the game out, but we enjoyed playing, so 0:47:54.719 --> 0:47:55.960 we had talk about the game. 0:47:57.160 --> 0:47:58.200 Then we just kick it. 0:47:58.280 --> 0:47:58.400 Bro. 0:47:58.480 --> 0:47:59.239 He was just cool. 0:47:59.280 --> 0:48:01.600 We talk about We still talk about playing Madden and 0:48:01.719 --> 0:48:04.399 stuff like that. N C Double A Football just came out. 0:48:04.800 --> 0:48:07.040 He never was really that good at video games, but 0:48:07.120 --> 0:48:08.200 he always wanted to play. 0:48:08.680 --> 0:48:14.479 I'm top top of the country. He hate Shell the game. 0:48:17.200 --> 0:48:21.080 I'm trying to tell you. Also, I think I was 0:48:21.160 --> 0:48:24.680 forced to go to team dinner all the time. Not 0:48:24.920 --> 0:48:27.200 every every road game. We go to team dinner. 0:48:27.239 --> 0:48:28.879 We're sitting there for three or four hours, just sitting 0:48:28.880 --> 0:48:31.640 there and hanging out and talking. No. 0:48:31.760 --> 0:48:34.000 Obviously having Hendrick is a connection. He was able to 0:48:34.120 --> 0:48:38.120 relate on a lot of different different things. Do people 0:48:38.239 --> 0:48:40.440 know anything about your your wrestling fetish? 0:48:40.719 --> 0:48:43.960 Yeah, everybody know. I love fall fetish is crazy. 0:48:44.360 --> 0:48:47.280 Everybody know I love when my man watching nineteen seventy 0:48:47.320 --> 0:48:51.600 six wrestling Man, I guess that's a finish. 0:48:58.160 --> 0:49:09.960 Wrestling. All the whites said finished. But likes you got 0:49:10.040 --> 0:49:17.360 him backage quiet. He was a dead cat in nineteen 0:49:17.440 --> 0:49:20.239 seventy six. Though. On the iPad. I'm like, Bro, what 0:49:20.320 --> 0:49:24.800 you got charging bro? Bro? Just like wrestling Bro. But 0:49:25.000 --> 0:49:29.640 you know what something else we relate to. We cheat? Whoa, No, 0:49:30.400 --> 0:49:34.680 we cheat because that's what we was going to so long. 0:49:35.520 --> 0:49:44.640 We cheat cheap. No, we're both cheap, bro. We use 0:49:44.920 --> 0:49:47.560 we don't want to spend money. Pay Bro from Chicago. 0:49:48.360 --> 0:49:48.480 Man. 0:49:48.560 --> 0:49:50.680 Look at him. He trying to get you caught up 0:49:50.760 --> 0:49:51.040 or something. 0:49:51.200 --> 0:49:54.880 I know I got always well Bro, he was confused, 0:49:55.520 --> 0:49:58.200 not cheap, like we all use the money. 0:49:58.320 --> 0:50:02.640 We were cheap, frugal. We got friend because that's how 0:50:02.680 --> 0:50:04.160 we used to go to them. Team Dinners were like 0:50:04.239 --> 0:50:06.879 here about to pay for us? Say eat again free? 0:50:07.040 --> 0:50:07.239 Yeah? 0:50:07.320 --> 0:50:11.279 What to kill on him? Oh ship wow? Getting out 0:50:11.320 --> 0:50:13.800 in nineteen forty two, we can get for sure. I 0:50:13.880 --> 0:50:16.399 used to My bill used to be fifteen hundred long. 0:50:16.960 --> 0:50:19.200 Damn who's fit for the scene. 0:50:19.560 --> 0:50:24.319 But damn I was racking up. I was taking stuff 0:50:24.360 --> 0:50:26.400 back to the room. I was like, be hearing on 0:50:26.480 --> 0:50:27.160 the valuum tab. 0:50:31.680 --> 0:50:35.719 That's how you're doing. Yes, everywhere you go to get 0:50:35.800 --> 0:50:38.560 to to go to to go. I know we're going 0:50:39.719 --> 0:50:44.120 I want to buy you. Look at the bill. He 0:50:44.280 --> 0:50:49.080 just take his bag to lead might be like Mike 0:50:49.200 --> 0:50:53.800 left too. He Mike left them wipe the American Express, 0:50:55.480 --> 0:50:58.880 funk out of here. Let's roll with him. Man, they 0:50:58.960 --> 0:51:03.520 try to get people jail. Were definitely cheap. I would say, 0:51:03.719 --> 0:51:06.040 we're cheap. We're going. We're trying to go to get 0:51:06.160 --> 0:51:13.200 Saxon for a thousand. Who's coming? I got to fifty 0:51:14.200 --> 0:51:17.200 straight up, like Paul, you're going. 0:51:18.560 --> 0:51:18.840 Be like what. 0:51:20.520 --> 0:51:23.640 You to make the most money? Man? And everything want 0:51:23.680 --> 0:51:27.480 told the right. So they was, Bro, you're getting a 0:51:27.520 --> 0:51:32.200 bottle bottle three hundred, I got twenty five. Met him tomorrow. 0:51:32.560 --> 0:51:34.879 We all bring it up, bathe and bring it all little. 0:51:35.160 --> 0:51:39.080 We were smart man trying to be that's funny man. 0:51:39.560 --> 0:51:47.120 He's a whole that big over there. Wrap it up. 0:51:49.760 --> 0:51:53.040 Oh man, Man, it's been real shells family at the park. Man. 0:51:53.080 --> 0:51:55.439 We got to have back. Man, it's always a good time. 0:51:55.480 --> 0:51:56.200 We went the building. 0:51:56.280 --> 0:51:59.479 Man, you know what we need him for. He gotta 0:51:59.520 --> 0:52:02.839 be our cow ed basketball host for the morning show. 0:52:03.000 --> 0:52:06.600 Come on, man show. We got a morning show, white Broway. 0:52:06.680 --> 0:52:11.160 We need to morning updates. Man, I'm definitely I'm definitely 0:52:11.200 --> 0:52:14.719 with that. We need that. Man. Come to five twenty 0:52:14.719 --> 0:52:15.799 you are you already game? 0:52:15.840 --> 0:52:15.920 Bro? 0:52:16.920 --> 0:52:19.319 You know you feel you got represented butler a little 0:52:19.320 --> 0:52:24.920 bit more. No, man, I didn't graduate shout from the 0:52:28.400 --> 0:52:31.319 flag him, he claimed a little We got to burn 0:52:31.440 --> 0:52:39.920 on it. Not the burn man respected your car, your 0:52:40.000 --> 0:52:40.440 love of car. 0:52:40.600 --> 0:52:42.879 Yeah, my family off from there, so yeah we locked 0:52:42.920 --> 0:52:45.880 in for show deeper rap. But look, man, you're not 0:52:45.920 --> 0:52:48.719 going to see his face. Did you graduate from her? 0:52:48.960 --> 0:52:51.200 I didn't go there. F from there. 0:52:51.280 --> 0:52:54.719 My family like a little bit. You got one time 0:52:54.760 --> 0:52:56.960 for the one time. Hey man, you'll see show back soon. 0:52:57.080 --> 0:52:59.080 We set it on wax. He's gonna be our basketball, 0:52:59.280 --> 0:53:02.000 college basketball for five to twenty in the morning, coming soon. 0:53:02.160 --> 0:53:04.440 Lock into that. 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