#545 - Bobby Has a ‘Bee In His Bonnet’ and Explains How Bots Manipulate Us + Bobby Answers Baby Questions + His Mount Rushmore of 90’s Songs + Would You Pay to See a Band Perform Without All Their Original Members?

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Speaker 1: Welcome to episode five point forty five of the Bobbycast, in which we will do a couple of things. I have a B in my bonnet. We'll talk about that. It has to do with super Bowl halftime show. Then I'll do some Q and as the questions I was asked the most in a Q and A on social media. I'll answer a lot of those. All of those are baby questions too. And then we will talk about bands that don't have their full original lineup if they're still touring, would you even want to see them? And we give examples. And I'll be joined by Eddie and Brandon Ray for that. So we appreciate you being here. Let's get started with this week's Bobbycast. I do want to start with something I'm gonna call there's a B in my bonnet before we get to the questions that I was asked this week, and the B and my bonnet is mostly about Bad Bunny. There's a lot of alliteration there, and so there's been a lot of controversy, a lot of manufactured controversy with Bad Bunny being the super Bowl halftime show. And I've talked about it where I'm like, hey, you don't have to be upset about it just because other people online are upset about it. And it doesn't cost you anything the bad money's performing, you're not even paying for a streaming service and disagreeing with it, like, it's absolutely free for people to be upsets crazy. But the big story that came out, and this is why there's a b in my bonnet. The big story that came out this week is that the Cracker Barrel controversy, which was also very manufactured, was so manufactured by foreign adversaries that fifty percent of the social media that happened about Cracker Barrel was by bots. And so the be and my bonnet this week is that we are letting bots manipulate us so much now. I do think there were a few people early on that said, I can't believe cracker Barrel removed the old man from the art. And whomever these adversaries are could be Russia, could be North Korea, could be China. We can go through the list of people that are really good technology wise, they find a crack of division and invest in it so heavily that it becomes a culture war. And that's what happened with Cracker Barrel. It's what's happening with bad Bunny. Nobody really cares. The super Bowl halftime show does not affect anybody's life in the least. As a matter of fact, when it is somebody that everybody goes, okay, that's pretty cool, everybody still hates on it. So there isn't a lot of positive that comes out of the super Bowl halftime show according to the Internet. And so I do want to move this over to bad Bunny because I think that's what's happening now, is that you have a lot of people that are upset about bad Bunny only because they're taking a cueue from the Internet to be upset about bad Bunny. And that Internet is mostly bots that are bought by foreign adversaries. So yes, we're people like I don't know bad Bunny. That sucks, yep, And that would have happened with anybody. But because it's somebody who basically only sings in Spanish, we can use that as a culture war. And when you're Russia, what do you do. Let's invest a million bucks in bots and get America fighting with each other. There's not one person that's actually been talking about hating on bad bunny that knows enough about bad Bunny to hate on bad Bunny. I don't know anything about bad Bunny. I'm too old, forty five years old. Well, isn't a bad Bunny. I don't know Spanish. I know some. I was the only white guy in my group in Texas. My friend group, only white guy. All Hispanics are Mexicans. Depending on what you asked them, they were, they were all Hispanics, but they're like, nope, I'm Mexican. Also, when people say we don't want or we want an American to do the halftime show, bad Bunny's American? Did you know Puerto Rico is a US territory. Do you know people that weren't American that did the halftime show? Rihanna Barbados, Shakira, Columbia, Coleplay, UK, the who I was at that one? UK? The Rolling Stones, Paul McCartney, you two bad Bunny US citizen. You guys weren't crying about that, were you?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: So two things I suggest before I let the b out of my bonnet. Number one, don't let the Internet affect you. You're seeing something on social media. You're seeing these memes that are made and you're going I agree because the people that I follow are telling me to agree because I'm supposed to align with them on everything culturally. But they're being affected by bots because the people that are making money off social media, what they do is they lick their finger and they put it up and the wind blows it in whichever way that wind blows. They go, oh, I should attach myself to this because I'm I going to get more engagement, and if I get more engagement, I make more money. So they're creating culture war based over the money that they're making, which by the way, is based on the money that's being spent on bots. With Cracker Barrel, with bad Bunny, you don't care, you don't care, You literally don't care. How long does the halftime show? Nine minutes? It's nine minutes of your life. What I've liked to have seen the Counting Crows do halftime? Absolutely, maybe I'll go buy some bots. Get everybody pissed off. The Counting Crows aren't doing halftime around here. That's the halftime show I want to see, and I'll be there, all right. I'll let the be out of my bonnet. I got a bunch of questions and I'm going to answer them one by one. I'm going to do a little bit of baby talk here, who'd you with you? Budy each Bubby bby? Not that kind of baby talk. I'm going to talk about having a baby. My wife and I we're having a baby. Question number one that I got will the baby be a Sooner or a Razorbacks fan? The problem for me now is that college sports are dictated mostly by college football, and because of that, right now, Arkansas is not good, and so I think my wife is thinking that the baby will be a Sooners fan because they win more. What sucks for me is to think that it would be anything other than an Arkansas fan, because I am one hundred percent. I'm in all Arkansas all the time. But I also know a little bit of me is gonna have to give, and it is going to pain me to see that baby wearing anything Sooner related, not because it's Sooner, because it's not Arkansas. So I don't have an answer to that right now. I really am praying there's some kind of agreement we can reach where it's one hundred percent of Arkansas. But I'm out numbered because I'm the only one. And then all of her family. They're all hardcore Sooner fans. So yeah, that's something I actually spend too much time thinking about. Next question, what are you looking forward to the most? About the baby coming? I don't know. I do not know what to look forward to because I've never had a kid before, and also like my relationship with thinking about children comes from me being a kid, and like it wasn't the greatest, So I don't know. I don't know the positives of having a kid. And also nobody really tells you all the good stuff that's coming. Everybody's like, oh boy, you're not gonna sleep. They're just gonna poop all over the place. Lionel Richie did tell me the poop doesn't stink for the first year because all they're drinking is breast milk. So what am I looking forward to? I don't know. I think I'm looking forward to maybe myself, maybe feeling things that I've yet to feel. But it's hard to look forward to something that you don't really know what you're looking forward to. So that is a question I get asked the most, like what are you looking forward to? I don't know, because everybody really only piles on all the hard things that are coming, like they're warning you you need this, you gotta pay for this, You're not going to sleep. I don't know what I'm looking forward to. I'm looking forward to figuring out what's going to be awesome about having a family. How about that? That's my answer for now. Number three, what is the sex of the baby. There are only five people that know the sex of our baby, Me, my wife, my wife's parents, Stanley the dog. We actually slipped in front of him. I didn't want to do the not know because I would be going crazy leading up to it. So I do know, but we have not shared it with anybody because we don't want it said or acts spread. We may tell a few people as we get closer to it, but right now we are not sharing the sex of the baby. So Razorback, that's the sex of it. It's Arkansas, Razorback, my wife. I don't know if pregnancy like makes you think and act a little different. She's been acting a little different, and at times she says stuff that's kind of dumb, and she says, that's because you're in me now, like my DNA is in her, which makes her dumber. And I don't think that's very nice. I'm being honest. Next question, when does Caitlin do also something that we are purposefully not sharing because of the judgment that comes with it. For example, we posted pictures of her and the whole pregnancy picture was kind of a weird thing to do for both of us because A had some funny ideas and she was like, well, we have to do it because I don't want to like hide and I want people to pictures of me and posting and be like, I think she's pregnant, so let's just get ahead of it. But we definitely waited. We took the pictures and then we waited. We definitely didn't live post, meaning take them that day and post them. So there is a bit of a time difference from the pictures we took and then when we posted them. But what I have learned about people that are pregnant or trying to have kids, like there's a lot of judgment that surrounds all of it, like talking about trying to get pregnant, talking about conceiving, talking about the different methods that you go through, like people were online talking about I know you had IVF. We didn't, And I hope if you are going through that that process that's very difficult and very expensive, and I hope you're able to like crush it and I hope it works for you. We didn't do that, but there's already judgment about what we supposedly did that we didn't do. That was weird. And so even with I can see someone in the public eye being pregnant and going, look, this is how pregnant I am, people are like, well, you don't. You look way bigger than a month and a half pregnant, while you're way skinnier than eight months pregnant. You must not be feeding yourself right or doing something that is not good for the baby. Like there's so much judgment from the internet when it comes to that. My wife had the decision of we're just not gonna say My original plan, if I'm being honest, was to say nothing about her even being pregnant and just present the baby as is. And maybe a year later, I thought that was the greatest bit ever. She gets pregnant, she has her pregnancy, we have the baby. We don't post any of it, even as we have the baby for six months, and then one day I come online and I'm like here's the baby, and people be like, what is this a bit? Like that's the greatest bit to me is when people have to wonder if it's a bit. So that's why we're not really sharing when she's due, because there's this odd judgment that comes from it, and my wife likes to have some stuff that's just hers, which is just our I think I would share because it's not me, it's my body. So there is no answer to that. And some of this I'm answering, so I can answer it because people are asking it a lot, and my answer is right now, we're not sharing when the babies do. Next one up? And now I asked this question so many times, but I actually have a a better answer to this one. How can I come and work for you and your team? We oddly have an opening, and so I need somebody who's great digitally, that has editing skills. This is almost like I'm doing a job, I guess, not an interview, but I'm just gonna let you know it's open. If you can edit video and you can make great thumbnails, like you have a little editing experience like pictures and video and little audio like I would hire you, like if you're good and you're nice to be around. So we have a rare opening. Because we're doing so much work, we need somebody else. So that's how right now, something we need. If you got to pick your nursery decoration theme, what would it be. Well, it'd be a lot of razorback helmets, be a lot of pigs on the wall. The idea of a nursery thoughs a little odd to me because the baby doesn't know. So why can't we just put and I didn't know there's a difference on a crib in a basinet. Why can't we just put the basinette and then the crib in the room as is? Like just take the bed out, Like why don't we need to make a nursery out out of anything? Baby doesn't know what text going on. Also, baby doesn't know what sugar is, so it's all broccoli, never going to touch sugar, all broccoli. And if you don't know what sugar is, you don't want sugar. That's my theory. Ask me again in a year, we'll see if I feel the same way. But right now, all that I have done and all that we have done, because we do have a room that we are turning into we're calling it the nursery. I don't know if my wife has any plans on having any decorating, like baby decorating in there is. I've cleaned out a closet completely, We've removed a lot of the bedroom stuff, like a bed, and now I guess we're gonna start filling it with baby stuff. We have bought two car seats and we bought a stroller and they're still in the box right now. But I feel like, why make little clouds in the sky and why make little pink and little blue things if the baby doesn't even know what that is. It's like a waste of me. But I'm not making a lot of the decisions here, and I'm okay with that. But if I got to pick the nursery theme, it'd be all read and it'd be all Arkansas razorbacks. What's the most common trait with successful people that you've seen? Right, we'll move off the baby stuff now. I think the most common trait with successful people I've seen is delusion. Kind of a weird answer, but the most successful people that I've ever seen that I've been able to be around are people that are delusional about their abilities, because you have to be delusional to think that you can do something that most other people can't or won't do like you have. There has to be something inside of you that's a little crazy to think that you can do it better than what other people have done it and maybe not even the greatest of all time. But I think you have to be delusional about either how good you are or how good you can be. I think another thing is consistency. You have to believe you can do it, but you also have to be so consistent in showing up at the right time every time. And I think that's the difference in inspiration slash motivation and discipline, and that I'm inspired to do crap all the time. The inspiration is the easy part. I can just lay in the bed and watch a TikTok, read a book and be so inspired. Inspiration takes almost no energy. Then I could be motivated to do something where I start it, Like a lot of people get motivated to get healthy and work out, and they do a day or two. Like, motivation is a little harder than inspiration because motivation takes a little bit of effort, but inspiration's easy. Motivation is pretty easy, but discipline is hard because that's you showing up all the time that you really concerning yourself with the rewards of the goal, but just being there enough to make the goal happen. So the one thing that I see that is a very common trait with highly successful people, people that are a bit delusional about how good they are and how good they can be, people that are very consistent, and people that know the difference in inspiration, motivation, and discipline. A lot of people have won. Everybody gets inspired, most people get motivated, few people stay disciplined. Fewer people are wildly successful. And there's a reason because it gets harder as you kind of climb up that ladder of those words. But I believe you can do it. I believe anybody can do it, because the hardest part about being great is not the inateability you have or being born with it. It's just showing up over and over again. It's just showing up and knowing that it might not work out. And when it doesn't work out, you can kind of repack the bag and go, I'm going to pack this bag a little different because I've learned something and I'm going to start over that repack in the bag is the most important part about being successful, and then you have to start over and be consistent again. And that's the hardest part, consistency and discipline. It's the easiest part because you know that it's cliche, but cliches are for a reason. And if you want to be successful, and by the way, I don't just mean career, any sort of success, you're going to have to have a bit of sacrifice. If you want to be a great parent, the absolute greatest parent. Do you know what? You can have to sacrifice your career, or at least some of it. If you want to be the greatest of your career, you can have to sacrifice your personal life. And I think a lot of my life has been that up to this point. There is a happy medium where you can do a lot of sacrifice of your career to be a parent. You can be a really good parent, but to have anything, even to have perfect balance, is sacrifice. To have anything great, to have anything really good, you're going to have to sacrifice something because you can't have it all. There's only so many hours in the day. And I think the most common trait is people that are disciplined and believe they can do it to a level that nobody else believes they can do it. And again that is back to being delusional. I am very delusional. I've always been very delusional. I believe I can do anything. I believe the world is absolutely bendable. And now I've seen it enough times that I know it. But I believed it way before too. Like where I come from, nobody did anything in the arts. It was you worked at the mill, you worked at somewhere near and you got a good job being like in the management part of it. That's it. Some people went to college, and if they did, most of them went to Garland County Community College. That was awesome. Yeah, two year degree and then they worked like a you know, a glass plant or the walm and that was awesome and you had a great life. And for some reason, I was so delusional to think that I, with a limited Mountain Pine education could go to Hollywood and be a star, to New York City be a star. It definitely didn't happen in the way I thought it was. But I still was able to go to Hollywood and do stuff, and go to New York and do stuff, and you know, have a national radio show, where millions of people listen in a podcast where millions of people listen. But yeah, you gotta add delusion.

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Speaker 1: Next question, what is your Mount Rushmore of ninety songs? Any genre? So I'm gonna do four songs from the nineties. Now, these aren't the nineties songs that I feel like made the nineties. These are songs that are most important to me, like my personal nineties mount Rushmore number one. I referenced it earlier. Counting Crows around here, around here, not as big of a song as Mister Jones, but from the same album August and Everything After. I am a massive Counting Crows fans. Counting Crows fan, I guess I'm enough to be two fans thought about a Long December. I don't think a Long December came out to like later ninety seven or so, if I'm guessing. But I'm still gonna go with round here because I love slow, sad music, and I love that album August and Everything After, and I'm a massive Counting Crows fan, So I'm putting Counting Crows round here up there. I'm putting Weezer from the Blue album my Name is Jonas up there. Now I could go Buddy Holly, but that's right down the middle, and that's a song I think most people know from Weezer because that was their most popular song from the album that even at the pop charts a little bit. The video was awesome, but I'm gonna go my Name's Jonas. I loved that song. I loved Weezer. It's part of the reason that my glasses are like this because Rivers Cuomo was a nerd. Buddy Holly was a nerd, and they were super cool to me. So I thought, man, if they can be cool as a nerd, then I'm going to do what they're doing without the talent or musical ability, I just wore the glasses. Basically, there's a whole story about Rivers Cuomo from Weezer is the lead singer, and Weezer had been popular and they had started started touring the world, and he was like, man, I've kind of had it for a while, and he wrote a letter to Harvard, an admissions letter, and his letter was all about how lonely it is on the road, and he's like, you get to a point where you're just bouncing around, You're just seeing the backs of buildings, You're in a tour bus, you're eating Fredo's and going to the next place. I'm going crazy. I'm going insane. And so he stopped doing music, went to Harvard, back to Harvard and got a degree. It's crazy. I'm putting Brooks and Done nee on moon. I think that's my favorite Brooks and Dune song of all time. Again. Also, I love slow songs. That was saying in my wedding, like Ronnie Done sang that in my wedding, which was pretty crazy for sure. But I'm gonna go Brooks and Done knee on and then I'm gonna go the Verve Bittersweet Symphony because it's a bitter sweet sym funny love the song. I'm not even a big cruel intentions guy. I just love that song. And the verve is different from the verve pipe, although out at the same time very confusing the verve pipe when I was young and knew everything because we were merely freshman that song. But I'm going the Verve Bittersweet Symphony. Counting crows around here, we'se are. My name is Jonas Brooks and Dunn, Neon Moon, the Verve Bittersweet Symphony, those four songs in a row on a playlist boom crushed. Next question, you were just in Vegas. What did you think of Las Vegas? What do you think of our city? I hate Vegas Vegas. I like Las Vegas. I like the part where the people live, and I've done shows that are in like theaters off the strip. I like that. I like the people that live in Vegas. The Strip is not for me anymore. One I'm too old, there's too much cigarette smoke, it's too flashy. You gotta walk too far to get to the next building. I don't ever want to leave my room, So it's not even so much about that. I don't like to gamble as much as I used to. But I was thinking when I was leaving the airport in Las Vegas that leaving the Las Vegas airport to me, feels a lot like probably when you're dying, because I imagine when I'm dying, I'm tired and you're exhausted. When you're leaving Vegas, I don't care what you did there. You're exhausted and you're thinking back, and there was there was some good and there was some bad. Like if I lost some money, probably did some stuff you regret, but you had fun with your boys. Can't wait to get home, Like I feel like that's what you're doing when you're ying, too, Like you think about the good times, man, some stuff I regret, can't wait to get home, get out of this body, and you know, get up, get up there to the pearly gates. And the pearly gates is kind of like your bed in real life when you're at the airport in Vegas. But I think when you're dying, you're glad you came because the memories you made. And I feel that way about Vegas. I feel like you have regrets. I feel like you're little dehydrated. I feel like when you're y, you're proably dehydrated too, Like I live my life dehydrated. When I leave Vegas, I am wildly dehydrated. So I think the feeling of leaving Las Vegas headed back home is the same feeling I'm going to have when I'm dying and heading back home, happy about some stuff, regret a few things. Maybe I should have made that bet, Maybe I should have sit the crafts table for two hours, longer than I should have. Overall happy with the experience, little dehydrated, can't wait to get home. That's what I think of Las Vegas. What do I feel like my obligations are in life? Now, that's the question. I have a couple. Number One, I feel like my obligation is when I fly to sit. If I sit on the inside by the window, I only have one time I can go to the bathroom. Like part of the role you take as the person on the inside is not to constantly get up, especially if you're like on a Southwest flight, and I'll do this on Southwest because you pick your seat. If I'm on a Southwest flight, I feel like it's my obligation as the flyer and I'm flying by the window to not make everybody stand up during the flight. Over and over again. I feel like that's an obligation, so I give myself one trip. There other obligations I feel like now I have an obligation to be present for my wife. I try to not be on my phone when we talk a lot of times. That's hard because I keep my phone in my hand all the time, and when my wife talks to me. Now, she's like, hey, let's talk about this. I try to put my phone down out of my hand and show that I'm doing that something else that I do and I see online that people are like, no, this is shady when a guy does this. I always have my phone turned upside down when I'm with somebody that I care to talk to, because I don't want to be bothered by the screen lighting up and me look down to go I wonder what this text message is, because I'll do that naturally without even thinking about it, Like somebody text me, or I get a some sort of alert, I'll look down at my phone to see what it is. So my screen is always down. I am not cheating on anybody. I never have cheated on anybody. But my screen is always down. And so when I see those if your man does this, he's cheating on you, or he wants to focus on you, he's probably cheating on you. Like seriously, I think I'm the rare one and that he's probably cheating on you. That's why I want to say he's probably cheating, but I'm not because I keep mine down. And I think a big part of me keeping it down to is from the radio show, because if I look down on my phone every time I get an alert while I'm doing the radio show, I'll always be looking down on my phone. Also, the sound on my phone is never on. I don't know that my ringer has gone off for a phone call in five years because of that, mostly, which is I don't want the ringer going off while I'm on the show, so I just leave it off. And those are the questions that I got asked the most. Yeah, I like to be in my bonnet thing. I'm upset about stuff. Mostly I find reasons to be upset about things, And sometimes I think I've trained myself to do it for content reasons, like what can I what can I really go on and go to town on? So I think I'm gonna do there's a b in my bonnet every week? Is that even a real that's a saying, right, Mike, Yeah, that's a thing. Should I wear a bonnet for that segment? Though? Should I find a bondet online and wear it? You get the bonnet, I'll get to bee. See, I don't think we need a real bee. That's a problem. Is a bondet the thing that goes down with the straps on the side. Yeah, I gotta get a bonnet and every week I got to come and do There's a b in My Bonnet and put the bonnet on for There's a be in My Bonnet segment because I'm the be in my bonnet? Now? Is people being upset that bad Bunny's doing the super Bowl and they don't give a crap by the super Bowl halftime perform it anyway like they wouldn't. They don't care if they don't care, and it's free. When do we get mad about free stuff? When do we get mad about free stuff given to us that we feel like we deserve more because it's free? How many free things have we felt like I deserve more? It's free and you didn't give me enough? Can you name one? And I think that's why I'm so irritated. I'm not even a Bad Bunny defender. I don't know enough about them. I would be defending anybody here. So what in my life has been presented us free? And I'm like, no, I need more or I'm gonna be upset.

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Speaker 4: I guess when we all got that U two album, we got that for free?

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Speaker 1: That was forced upon us. Yeah, it's pretty mad about that. That was forced up in something I already owned. That was more invasion than just here. Yes, free, you can change the channel from Bad Bunny. And you know what, I should be upset because I'm gonna be at the super Bowl and I'm not gonna know any of the songs to sing. I should be the one that's mad. But I'm an adult. And also I'm not gonna let the Internet divide me and anybody else because that's what they're trying to do. For the record, I love Bad Bunny and this is for me. This is awesome.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna understand every single word, although even knowing Spanish sometimes it's hard to understand Bad Buddy.

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Speaker 1: Even knowing English, it's hard to understand a Matthew's band. Yeah, all right, by the Times Pearl Jam you know again? Yes, that's it that that is perfect? All right. I think that's all we have for this this edition. I can't wait to do There's a bee in my bonnet. Don't let stuff affect you, man. I was reading this story from the like the nineteen forties in Pasca Lula, Mississippi, and I know that town because there's a racet even song the day the squirrel went berserk in the old town Baptist church and that sleepy little town up Basket. I think it's Pastalula Pasca Gula. Yeah. And so they had this guy there in the forties called the Phantom Barber, and I feel like a superhero. But it's not a superhero. But it was a real person who would break into people's houses and he wouldn't still money, he went still jewels. He would just cut a piece of their hair, like a lock of their hair, while they were asleep. That's it. That's all he did was cut a piece of their hair off, and so he crept in. He would snip the hair, and then he would leave. And so people would wake up the next morning and there'd be like a lock of their hair that was gone. And he as creepy to realize that some stranger was standing over you in the dark. I mean scissors in hand too, because he's one move away from slashing your neck. Except that's not what he did. Yeah, I get it. I get nervous. I'm taking a nap and my dog is just staring at me when I wake up, much less thinking about somebody with scissors just standing over me. But this happened multiple times. Nothing was ever stolen, nobody was ever hurt, and he would clip a little lock of hair. The town went nuts over it. People panicked. They started buying extra locks, not of hair, but for their doors. They started locking up the doors in crazy ways. And this happened like five times total. This wasn't like forty times, but enough to concern people. People started to create narratives. There were rumors going around. Some even claim to see them when they probably didn't see them. And I think a lot of life is kind of like that that Sometimes it's not the actual danger that wrecks us, because he'd never ended up stabbing anybody, but it's what we kind of form with our minds of what could the danger be, and so like that can actually affect you more than what the actual danger is. I mean, I feel like that if it's fears about money, if it's fears about life, if it's fears about being a dad, if it's fears about my career, which I always have, those fears always end up way bigger than actually what happens, even worst case scenario, Like as I've really freaked out over stuff, I've been super stressed about stuff, or I've sid stuff that I'm like, well, I'm fired out, And to this point, one hundred times later, it's never been worst case scenario, but we always go worst case scenario with that. So maybe the lesson is that sometimes what we're worried about that monster really isn't a monster. That our brains make us a monster. In bots, brains and bots, you can control your brain. Don't let the bots affect your brain.

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Speaker 2: The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the Bobby Cast.

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Speaker 1: I do want to talk about musically, I think Rush is touring.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Rush is touring. They announced their tour, but they're gonna do it without neil Pert. Obviously he's dead, and I don't I don't think about Rush. So neil Pert was a drummer, and it's almost like Van Halen, where like, yes, Rush is known for Getty Lee, who's the lead singer and all that, but neil Pert was a big part of the band because his drumming style was so extravagant, Like he was such a good drummer that he was kind of the star of the band.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so what's your point. So he's no longer with the band. Obviously he's the drummer's the star of the band. No way, dude, Neil Pert, I mean Neil part I'm sure he's an instrumental part of the sound, but there's no way he's He was the double basser. You know what. I want to let hey, I want to listen with mators. Go ahead, hear me out.

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Speaker 5: So he's not touring because he's dead. So they go on tour without him. They've got a new drummer. I think it's a girl, which is cool, but it's not the original band. Is that okay with you? If your favorite band is touring again without a major member of the band, not the basis, not anyone like that, a major member of the band, would you still want to go see him?

00:33:29
Speaker 1: I literally don't care. As long as the lead singer is the same, That's all I care about. If Counting Crows were like, we're going back on tour and it was just Adam Durtz, cool, you can have seven people and just call him the new Crows. Who cares? You wouldn't know the difference. I wouldn't know the difference. Well, even if they change lead singers, Like we've talked about this the Fray, You know how to save alive. Way did I go wrong? They have a new lead singer. It's not the ball old white guy anymore. It's the guitar player who was always in the band, but now he sings. I don't like that. I need the lead singer to be consistent. Yeah, I get that. As long as it's the lead singer, I think I'm good because that's what I associate the band with, are the songs and the lyrics and the vocals. So I don't think a drummer. If the Beatles were like, we're all together, We're still alive, but no Ringo, I don't care, Like go watch it. That's awesome, but just an example, or its like we're all no George Harrison, but it's all it's Ringo, John and Paul. Yeah, I'm going that's the Beatles because the lead singers there. That's probably not fun to hear if you're a significant part of the band and your guitar player and songwriter, but really all you need is a lead singer. I use Van Halen as an example. What about them? I mean, Eddie van Helen was the star of Van Halen. Don't care and then Halen to me, as long as and we could not Gary Schrouan, but because for a while wasn't ye he was like one of the maybe the third singer for five minute David Lee Roth. I don't need anybody else. It can be davidly Roth. You can lie to me and say it's to me. No, I won't know the difference. No way. Yeah, I need. All I need is a lead singer. That's interesting, and I think that's good enough for me. Okay, black Crows, it's not full band. It's two people. It's the two brothers. Sure, but they're not touring like half of the Black Crows. No, here's the Black Crows. Well I got another example. What about Sublime with his son? Not the same? His son is a little it's like seventy five percent, but one of it like Sublime with Rome. For me, it's not the same. If I'm going to go, it's not because I want to go see Sublime, it's because I'm going to go watch some songs kind of be sung like Sublime. But that's not the band. Yeah, that's not the band to meet. Uh, it's all lead singer based to me.

00:35:51
Speaker 5: Yeah, I see what you're saying. I think you're right about that, because my my go to his Pearl Jam. I mean I would if Eddie Vedder was not there, I would not go see pro jam.

00:35:58
Speaker 1: But what if everybody was. What if Eddie was the only one but the other instrumentalists and they're like, it's pearl Jam, I've gone you. I mean, they didn't label it as pearl Jam, but I went anyway to go see Eddie Veder. But if they said it's hey on tour Pearl Jam, but it was only Eddie Vedder with a bunch of other people playing the songs, yeah I go. I'd go.

00:36:14
Speaker 5: Yeah, because it's still going to sound the same band members, guitarists.

00:36:18
Speaker 1: They can they can make that sound. Is it controversy although that they're going on tour without the drummer.

00:36:25
Speaker 5: I think it's just kind of a big deal, like because they thought that they would never tour again since Neil Purton died.

00:36:31
Speaker 1: I think it also matters that he's dead. If they were touring and he was alive and he was like, hey guys, let me let me tour, well that's like journey right yoh yeah, he jumps out and they went and found tour. The only thing that makes that almost real is the guy sounds exactly like him. That's the hard part.

00:36:47
Speaker 5: You got to find someone that sounds like the lead singer to somehow make it happen for half of the people that want to go to that.

00:36:54
Speaker 1: For some reason, I googled this to see bands who toured without their full lineup type things. So the J Giles Band mm hmm freeze frame, freeze frame. I think that's J Giles. Man, J Giles, where's the hat backwards plays bass? I don't know, man with dreads? We used to it J Giles? What song that is? Oh? Yeah, And twenty twelve they went on tour without J Giles himself. Yeah, that's a weird. Man. You're the J Giles Band, but with no J Giles. That's weird.

00:37:20
Speaker 6: Centerfold.

00:37:21
Speaker 1: Oh that's what it is, the centerfold. Yeah, not freeze frank centerfold. Yeah yeah yeah, uh, Leonard Skinner. Really it's what one cousin or something? Right.

00:37:30
Speaker 6: Actually J Giles Band did do freeze frame, so you're right in centerfold.

00:37:35
Speaker 1: Oh they did freeze frame.

00:37:36
Speaker 6: Yeah, Hey, you got it.

00:37:38
Speaker 1: I love being accidentally right when I'm not even sure. In the centerfold, oh, they had two songs. Good for them. Yeah, it's weird though the J. Giles band is touring without J Giles. That's like going, hey, we're gonna go watch Dave Matthew's band.

00:37:50
Speaker 6: No, no, Dames, you can't do that.

00:37:53
Speaker 1: Can't that part. You can't do the name of the band. But was he the lead singer because I just assumed him A hearty was see, but van Halen wasn't the lead singer. He was not. I mean Zach Brown band. You imagine, just go, it's not Zach Brown band. If Zach Brown's not there. Now there are some bands like what do you say?

00:38:12
Speaker 6: J Giles was the guitarist and name namesake leader, not the lead singer. The lead singer was Peter Wolf.

00:38:19
Speaker 1: But you know what, here's the thing. Then if the lead singer is still there band, Yeah, yeah, I'm not gonna know the difference. True. I mean, that's why they did it. And I love Freeze, Frame and Centerfold mostly free Freeze, Frame, Freeze Skinnered Foreigner. Sometimes Foreigner tours with no original members okay we had didn't we have Foreigner and it was just one guy with a keyboard. He was the singer. I think he's the original singer. Okay, but they will tour now as Foreigner with no no members of the original band at all. It was like I believe it was once they started to have new members come in, Like let's say they got a new basis and guitar player, touring with a couple of the originals. They toured with Foreigner for a while, and then the other originals went out, so now it's just the two that kind of fell in late. So they added to more and it's still Foreigner and it's no original members. Wow.

00:39:03
Speaker 6: Here here's a question. What about like one of your favorite bands, like Wheezer, would it if Rivers was just there? Would you be cool?

00:39:13
Speaker 1: Yes?

00:39:13
Speaker 6: Okay, because I think about I'm a big Metallica fan, and I'm like, if.

00:39:21
Speaker 1: I wasn't there, I mean annoying, he's so annoyed you think's annoying. Annoying, just making sure. But he is a big part of the band. He is I think he's the band. I think he's the one that formed the band. Right, Yeah, yeah, go ahead. I didn't be interrupted by going nobody.

00:39:36
Speaker 6: It would be difficult for me to see like, oh, they're not a they're not a unit. It's like in sync going out without justin but he wasn't.

00:39:44
Speaker 1: But he's the lead singer.

00:39:45
Speaker 6: But was he the main lead? Yes, yes he was, that's true.

00:39:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, But if it was just James Hatfield, he's the lead singer Metallica.

00:39:52
Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, would be weird. Yeah, if it was just.

00:39:55
Speaker 1: James Hedfeld and other guys rocking, that'd be so.

00:39:57
Speaker 6: Weird, weird.

00:39:58
Speaker 1: You need you need all those dudes Metallica. I'm not saying it wouldn't be weird, but I'm saying Metallica on tour, James Hetfield other guys that are equally as good instrum? Would you still go and watch Metallica?

00:40:09
Speaker 6: Bubba from Nebraska would not care?

00:40:12
Speaker 1: Right, And that's cousin both. Would you go? I don't know.

00:40:20
Speaker 6: I don't I don't know.

00:40:21
Speaker 1: You got it. You got to make a decision.

00:40:22
Speaker 6: No, you wouldn't go. I don't think i'd go.

00:40:26
Speaker 1: I'm not a big Metallica guy, but if it were, like, hey, it doesn't make a difference to me. If Jen Sadfield's there, doesn't make a difference. But I'm also not a diehard Metallica fan.

00:40:34
Speaker 6: Yeah, I see what you're saying with others, But somebody a band that I'm like really into and I've seen so many times. I'm like, I don't know, that'd be kind of weird, but who cares. Really?

00:40:43
Speaker 1: You know, when they switch late singers and they don't sound exactly the same, for example, like the Fray, that's weird to me, and I get it you've always been in the band, but to sing the same songs. Let's go to Genesis, right, Sometimes somebody we've talked about, like Phil Collins was the drummer who wasn't the singer. Peter Gabriel was the singer. Peter Gabriel leaves Phil Collins then has his own hits. Though he has his own hits as the lead singer of Genesis, it's not like the guy in the Fray just singing all the hits of the guy that was the lead singer. Uh. The Eagles do a good job, but they pass it around so much you don't even really know, right, And they all sing different songs, so they all can sing the other songs. Because your attentions all over the place anyway, I don't think you really even notice as much. Maybe like Don Henley those songs, probably because I think he has he has the most most states voice.

00:41:37
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's the thing. If Don Henley wasn't there, I don't.

00:41:40
Speaker 1: You couldn't do the Eagles. Well, you're right because because Glenn Fry Glenn fryes his name, he's gone. So yeah, if you lost him and Don Henley, what would you have. What's his name? Uh, Peter Tork. He's a monkey. Who's the guitar guy that you watch? Joe Wash Joe Watsh had some good songs.

00:42:03
Speaker 6: Joe Wash is awesome. I'd see Joe Watsh my mis.

00:42:06
Speaker 5: Rity, but he can't do like correcting. Hotel California ran on a ducking as allway.

00:42:18
Speaker 1: That's a great point. A CDC switch lead singers and Brian Johnson does sing the Bond Scott songs, but to be fair, they did have hits with him as the singer. He wasn't just a replacement singer to sing the old songs. I think that gives you a little liberty too, when you're the new lead singer and you have hits, I think it's okay to sing the old hits as part of the band. I think it's weird if you don't have new hits and you're just singing songs, unless you sound exactly like them, like the like for example what you mentioned earlier, when they get on YouTube and not foreigner, just a small tabl like that is an such an outlier because they found a singer that is exactly like it, a Lincoln Park Mike. Yep, that's a tough one for me, a tough one for a lot of people because he died. What about Queen Well Lincoln Park? Though she doesn't sound anything like Chester, but she doesn't try to. He doesn't try to. And they do have another one of the co lead singers because Mike Schanoda was definitely the rapper version. Yeah, some people have a hard time with that, with her singing, I've grown to like it a little more.

00:43:27
Speaker 4: I just happed it is. It's a different band now. I don't think it ruins their legacy, but I could see if you're a diehard fan and don't want to see that band without them, how you would not want to go to their concert?

00:43:36
Speaker 1: They kept the name.

00:43:38
Speaker 6: Yeah, here's something interesting. I don't know if you guys know the band three Days Grace of course, ay.

00:43:44
Speaker 1: Hate everything about you.

00:43:48
Speaker 6: So that lead singer left two or three albums in they got a new lead singer, they had some hits. Then the original lead singer joined the band and they're co lead singers. Now there's two leads lead singers. They have two dads.

00:44:04
Speaker 1: Two dads better than one.

00:44:06
Speaker 6: Wow, Dad's two Christmases?

00:44:08
Speaker 1: How about that power dynamic? Like, I'm just curious as to what it is.

00:44:11
Speaker 6: Well, they they came together because they you know, the original lead singer stayed friends with everybody, and they they work together, they sing together.

00:44:20
Speaker 1: They right, But if I'm the new lead singer we have hits, why don't want the old aid singer to come back and like take what I've just reworked and came into an awkward situation to that's crazy. Yeah, dysfunctional genesis. Queen Queen not the same. I would I don't. I don't care to go watch Queen with Adam Lambert or anybody else. I would not go to that. That I mean that, that's just a personal preference. I wouldn't go to Queen with Adam Lambert's lead singers. Don't tell a pilots they'd tried some crap, did they? Yeah? I just got Wiland died. It never worked. Who sang in his place? Do you remember Freddy Mercury. Yeah, Jay Giles Giles joined, I don't remember that. Uh what them trying to stunt stp trying to go out without.

00:45:06
Speaker 6: Him and same with Alice in Chains.

00:45:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Jerry can truck it, actually, well he can, but like him.

00:45:13
Speaker 6: They had to bring Elaine Staley to Ish like ish voice.

00:45:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, Fleetwood Mac they switched out people.

00:45:24
Speaker 5: Yeah, they all kind of sang right. Well, even the keyboard lady would sing sometimes I think it's not.

00:45:31
Speaker 1: The right f right. Yeah. Yeah, I think as long as they can, I would go watch Fleetwood Mac, as long as Stevie Nicks was there. If Lindsay Buckingham's not there, that's okay. If I think Christie would be, that's a good's okay. Yeah, she's such a big part of it. To me, she's the part, and I know I'm wrong, I'm the other people are so much a part of the band and the creation of it and the success of it and singing big songs. If she's not there, I don't want to go. If she's there with Randoms, I still might go. If they're going, Yep, Playwood Mac in concert and it's only her and some Randoms, I'm like ah it sounds good. Yeah, I still might go to that. Man.

00:46:15
Speaker 5: When we were at iHeart and Sammy Higar played with the like Van Halen, he only played with the original bassist. Oh yeah, and he's sang like a Van Halen song, which I would think if you're gonna do that, you would if you do a tour, you would do more Van Helen songs.

00:46:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I didn't mind it. It was cool it.

00:46:33
Speaker 5: Eddie wasn't there, but Joe Satriani was the guitarist, which is another amazing guitarist.

00:46:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, if they said van Halen it was just those two with randoms, I would go to that. I would too. Smashing Pumpkins so Billy Corgan always stayed, but they switched out the band members the whole time. Yeah, nobody cared. Billy Corgan is the Smashing Pumpkins. Doobie Brothers. Michael McDonald, you know, wasn't always the lead singer, right, so they switched lead singers. The original Hoodie wasn't Hoodio is Booty. He got him Booty Booty the Yeah, yeah, I don't know if there are any other ones. What about when blank one ad too change Mike that kind of sucked.

00:47:13
Speaker 4: Yeah, because Tom DeLong left he was my favorite member, and they brought in Matt Scuba what was he from Al Glen Trio? And they had success with him.

00:47:20
Speaker 6: They did pretty well.

00:47:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, as a I won't say casual because I think I like them a little more than casual, but not a hardcore. I wouldn't have gone to that.

00:47:29
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't go see him. Then whenever Tom DeLong came back, I went to that show.

00:47:32
Speaker 1: Would he sing Tom's parts? Yeah? And did you try to sing him like Tom? Now? I sing it like him, but did he naturally sound like Tom a little bit? No?

00:47:40
Speaker 4: It kind of just felt like somebody covering the blank.

00:47:43
Speaker 6: Yeah.

00:47:43
Speaker 4: I don't like The benefit with them is Mark also sings a lot of their hits too, so it's like, okay, you're still getting Mark Hoppus singing like what's My age again? And then you have Matt Scuba singing.

00:47:53
Speaker 6: Where are You?

00:47:55
Speaker 1: Yeah? I want Mark Coppas and Glenn Fry we need mixing on them together.

00:47:59
Speaker 6: Joe.

00:48:00
Speaker 1: Yes. So in the end, I don't mind Rush doing this. I'd still go watch it as a full Rush. I think that's Rush just the lead singer. Yeah, I think.

00:48:09
Speaker 6: It's great, and it's a it's a it's a girl in her thirties playing those parts that are like impossible, they're so hard.

00:48:16
Speaker 1: I mean, he was such a good drummer. Yeah, there's another. Oh it was John Fogerty when he plays gredients. Now it's his sons.

00:48:23
Speaker 6: That's awesome. That's really cool.

00:48:25
Speaker 1: Everybodys dead so oh that's not but but he's the no, that is not cool. But he's the voice. He's the voice of Yeah. Yeah, I want to look out Rush real quick before we jump.

00:48:35
Speaker 5: Let's see how many before you look at it? How many songs you think you know? I know you know one for sure.

00:48:40
Speaker 1: But even that, I don't know what that one is. But I would bet you I know.

00:48:44
Speaker 6: Uh four, four.

00:48:47
Speaker 1: I don't know if I know four. I don't know if I know one. But let's see. Yeah, today's Tom saw you with the Okay Spirit, the Spirit, Oh, I know that one, the Spirit Radio, hold on. They all sound kind of the same. Yeah, Well, his voice is very distinct.

00:49:12
Speaker 6: It's like progue rock. Is that what it's called rock math? That's a that's a good one.

00:49:17
Speaker 1: Because they're smart people.

00:49:18
Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's like ninety nine percent of their fan base are nerds men.

00:49:22
Speaker 1: You know, oh Man, closer to the Heart, Nudes, Oh, you know this one closer to Oh I do know this one, and Geddy Lee plays the bass. While these things are just cool too, I know this song close to the Okay, there's two. What's this called fly by night?

00:49:46
Speaker 6: You know this one?

00:49:47
Speaker 1: By night? Oh Man? I do know? Yeah, that's three. That's three. That's three, that's three. Let me get one more out of this line? I Light. I also love it, and I mean this when you guys go, you know this one before I even have a chance. You know that you know this one? Lime Light. I don't know this one.

00:50:17
Speaker 6: I thought he would know about the guitar.

00:50:19
Speaker 1: They all sound the same, they really do. And I hate to be that guy because being in music a little bit myself that they never they don't sound the same, but the tone is exactly the same, so it feels like it's the same. But that's cool as a band. That thing that's really cool for sure. Oh I don't know this one subdivisions iron man, working Man. We are Oh, we are the working man? Do I know this one? Come on, keep listening when you are the working man? I literally am skimming through it. It's also you know, there's more, there's more. They'll start singing here in a minute.

00:50:56
Speaker 6: No, I'm more like three minutes.

00:50:59
Speaker 1: I don't know.

00:51:01
Speaker 6: Was it the movie I Love You Man? That they were big rough Rush fans. You remember that.

00:51:07
Speaker 1: He's wait, well, don't give up on it. All the way through it. Twice all I heard was guitar solo. Is that what Rush is know for proficiency and instruments? Yeah, they're all all yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:51:21
Speaker 6: Three it's a it's a trio.

00:51:23
Speaker 1: And all three are like super good, like Greg guitar.

00:51:26
Speaker 6: They can make this whole sound with just three people.

00:51:29
Speaker 1: Yeah. I gotta say, as much as I love music, I'm a nerd. I never was a Rush guy.

00:51:34
Speaker 5: That was mostly my older brother. Yeah, and he was listening to all of it. I never bought an album.

00:51:40
Speaker 1: I didn't know.

00:51:44
Speaker 6: It's not working, man, I'm trying. I'm trying to listen, like this is the only different one that's like a different tempo.

00:51:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it feels like tone feel a little dirty or two.

00:52:05
Speaker 2: Call me working.

00:52:07
Speaker 1: I think I know this song by the Rush. Oh that's not Rush, you know that is definitely? Yeah? What is it? Don't stand so close to now just by that note, I got to sing the whole long. Can you play that part again? It's a race braindon no, well, I can't play it close to the micael for long we got We're gonna podcast jail. Here we go again. Don't stand so close to message in. I think that because I know the song. But is this onth thing goes? There's a little black dozens sound. Yeah, yes, but the chorus is so different than that. Yeah, it king of Pain, King of Pain. I would have never gotten that. I was gonna say, desert ran Yeah, desert Yeah. Do you want one more? That's just thing? Yeah, just name that tune. I'll give you the first few seconds and then. But it's a race random. It's not gonna be the police though. I was just going through my stuff. Okay, here here you go, Eddie, Eddie. That's a fat boy Slim together any song. Yeah, it's a treat me right, I got it.

00:53:40
Speaker 6: I just wan fat boy Slim. I don't know the name of the song. It's Praise You, Praise You. Was he in that one or no?

00:53:51
Speaker 1: He was in the what was the other one? Not the fighter? The dude he's walking amazing hold on weapon or choice. That's it. There you go, that's it.

00:54:05
Speaker 6: Fat Boys was awesome, so good.

00:54:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had a couple, a couple. I mean that album right here, right now, right here, right now. I always kind of liked and I'm not really into dance music or electronic, but I kind of like the LCD sound system. What did they have? I probably know without I got so many songs in my head. Let me go first. It's cleared out, clear out, clear dot, cleared out, cleared out. Oh, I got clear everything else out at my Daft Punk is playing at my house, my house. I can just pull it up, but it's hard to You don't know that song. I don't know why, but I'm picturing the Prodigy. Guy Prodigy is smack. Yeah, okay, let me do this real quick then we'll get out of here. Is that not even the one of his biggest songs? Seventy four million? Now? Oh yeah, I remember this. Daft Punk is playing at my house, my house. You ever see this guy's life? It's one guy. Oh, he's just a DJ. You may have people with them, but I think I saw him acl Fest dance your stuff clean? What are you laughing at over there?

00:55:19
Speaker 6: I was, I was trying to listen to dance stelf clean.

00:55:21
Speaker 1: All right, we're done, Aaddie, Thank you. That was fun, Man Brandon, thank you for being here. Everybody, Thank you for listening. We got Clint Black next week, right yep, all right, Clint Black coming up Tuesday.

00:55:31
Speaker 3: Goodbye, everybody, thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production