Zack Wheeler kept his rib?! Getz forgets Acuña the RHH, José Berríos apologizes + Corey Knebel joins FT

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Zack Wheeler has his rib that was removed after surgery in his closet?! (top of pod)

(03:35) White Sox general manager Chris Getz forgot that Luisangel Acuña is not a switch-hitter. Why didn’t anyone correct him?

(16:56) AJ gives us his take on there being no ABS challenge system in the WBC.

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(19:38) José Berríos apologized to the Blue Jays and his teammates for going home during the postseason.

(24:25) He is one of the hosts of the newest shows on the FT Network and it's called Brewer Territory. Former All-Star pitcher Corey Knebel joins FT to discuss the state of the Brew Crew after trading away some notable names. Who will play third base following Caleb Durbin’s departure, and which players will step up in the rotation after the Freddy Peralta trade with the Mets?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what he said.

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Speaker 2: That's what he said.

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Speaker 1: That's what he said.

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Speaker 2: That's what he said. For all you sickos out there. Zach Wheeler had a rim moved and he's keeping it.

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Speaker 3: What do we want to take it out the first ripe? Yeah? Uh, Paul preserved it for me. Uh, you have to like do a bunch of stuff to it. So I guess, I don't know something to guess it doesn't decay, I don't know. But he did that for me, and I just have it sitting.

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Speaker 4: At the house. We're in the house.

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Speaker 3: That's in my closet. No, it's just like in Uh, it's like a little case.

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Speaker 4: Why'd you want to keep it?

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Speaker 3: I think probably everybody they give it to you after the surgery. And so the doctor walked in. He was like, usually I give these two people like a month or a month later, like a week eight or something. I forget what exactly you said, but he's like, I wanted to give it to you personally. So he just walked in and gave it to me like in a bag. That's pretty great.

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Speaker 2: Zach Whaler has his rib and if his house ever gets searched, they're gonna be like, wait, a second.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, Okay. What's weird about this is we talked about the hamdmates yesterday and I talked about handmade surgery.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, did you get your bone?

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Speaker 1: No, that's the story I'm gonna tell. So when they did my surgery, they didn't put me under well, they just kind of you lay on a table in your arms. They just numb your arm. So you can't why it was. It was early. I had like seven in the morning, so I just went to sleep. Well, I woke up in the middle of the surgery and I'm talking to the doctor. He's like, oh, you're awake. I'm like yeah. He's like, you know it's going well, We're almost done. There's not a long surgery. And I was like, oh, yeah, I know. Hopefully you know, everything goes good. I said, hey, by the way, what do you do with the bone you take out? Because they take the little hook out and he goes, do you want it? And I'm like, well, it's mine. It came out of me, so it's mine. Yeah, I want it. He goes, it's against the law, you can't have it, you know. I was like, but that song, bitch came out of me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe it was the state you're in.

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Speaker 1: I was in Florida.

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Speaker 2: No anything goes. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but I was like, what do you mean? I can't have it? And this is all happening while he was taking it out. So maybe I don't know, but he's like, no, you can't have it. It's against the law.

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Speaker 2: Maybe ribs are okay, but or not.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but I wanted to like get it, and I would have put on like a necklace or something would have been like a cool maybe hearing like Barry Bond's ear ring and the dangling while I'm hitting to Timiday Pictures. I don't have a hamdmate. I can do whatever I want.

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Speaker 2: Crat's Artepend ninety eight, Section d four in the Constitution, thou shall not keep thy hammet bone that top ribs are okay, that's fine.

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Speaker 5: And they'll always say Zach Wheeler's got skeletons in his closet.

00:02:46
Speaker 1: That was like the what was the movie Chris Rock when he was like the homeless guy and he goes into this store and he's like how much for some ribs? He's like, how much with just one rib? Have you never seen that, and he's like, how much for pepsi? Which, gosh, it was like the O g the O G one or the guy over gold. You've never seen that. I'm gonna get you over gold. Yeah, but I'm gonna get you stuck her and he's like the homeless guy and he's like, how much for a rib? How much for just one rib? How much for the pepsi? Pepsi? He's like, how about if I just licked the dispenser? You never seen that? It's a great I don't know s I have?

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Speaker 5: But he said, oh he got over goolded under under change.

00:03:27
Speaker 1: Maybe that was a new Jack City. I don't know. You never seen that either, have you?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah? Anyway, well, if you want to be confused, this next one is taking the social media world by storm lately. I honestly kind of feel bad, but let's run it.

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Speaker 6: You know, he's got he's got a lot of potential. He can play all over the diamond. He's a strong defender, base runner, switch hitter. He can do a lot of different things to to help you win.

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Speaker 7: I want to bring someone in that that you're excited about, right, and and our evaluations on Akunya are very strong you know, for the reasons you stated, very strong defensively switch hitter.

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Speaker 1: He can run.

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Speaker 7: He's got great instincts to bring in a.

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Speaker 6: Player that is young, who's got pedigree, he's got blood lines with his brother, can play all over the field. He's a switch hitter. He's one of the top base runners.

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Speaker 2: All right. So that's Chris Gatz talking about Louis hend Halocunya, who was acquired recently via trade from the Mets and the Luis Robert deal. He is, in fact not a switch hitter. And that clip was put together. I want to make sure I shout him out Sam Falen on Twitter, right, he put all the clips together and then gets put out a quote today. So I probably have been getting carried away describing his versatility. He can play every position on the field. Why does it have to stop there? I called Louis en Helen told him that even though he's just right handed, we still love him. So he made light of it. It's embarrassing. No comment, you got nothing.

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Speaker 1: I'll comment.

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Speaker 2: It's a talk show. It's a talk show. I actually, legitimately, I don't know. Should I not feel bad? Should I feel bad for who? Chris? It's embarrassing.

00:05:17
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean you can feel bad for him? Why would you feel bad for him?

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Speaker 2: It's taking over the internet today.

00:05:23
Speaker 1: Did you feel bad for him? I mean that he didn't know the guy he just traded for didn't switch hit, So you feel bad you feel bad for him? Kind of Okay, that's fair.

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Speaker 2: Clearly you should know that he's not a switch hitter.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know, you know what I feel bad for? Oh, crash, you go, and then I'm gonna say my piece.

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Speaker 5: Earlier in the show, a j accidentally said Wilson Contreres. Two names later, Scott you corrected him and said William Contreres. Why is that because we feel like we.

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Speaker 1: Should be held accountable.

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Speaker 5: We feel like we want people to listen to what we have to say, because we really do a freaking lot of work behind the scenes to create a good product. If your general manager is calling one of the pieces that they got in a big quote air quotes big trade a switch hitter, somebody that may or may not get significant time for your team, and you keep calling him a switch hitter? What kind of what kind of look does that give your organization? I'm sorry, I really like Chris Getz as a person. We had a teammate, but like you do the little things really well, he made a mistake. He has since said, you know what, I shoot, I shouldn't have I shouldn't.

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Speaker 1: Have done that.

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Speaker 5: Like, I get it, But what kind of message does that send? Like it's just like you do the little things great, You're gonna do the big things great too, And it's a mistake. But to me, I just feel like it's one of those things that where were the other Hey, I just saw you did that. You did that spot on the Chicago network whatever he did it on.

00:07:07
Speaker 1: Hey, you called him a switch hitter.

00:07:09
Speaker 2: Don't do that again.

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Speaker 4: He's like, oh, shoot, he did it four times.

00:07:15
Speaker 2: Nobody's corrected him.

00:07:18
Speaker 5: So where are the other people around him?

00:07:22
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00:08:25
Speaker 1: That's why that was my thing is where are the people after he says it the first time that say hey Chris, he's not a switch hitter. Where the media people that should say, hey Chris, you made a mistake, like Wilson William Conturras, Yo, I'm sorry. They're brothers. I apologize, but it happened. I also thought maybe Chris gets they had unlocked a new skill and they were and just hadn't told anybody since he hasn't gotten a camp yet, and maybe he has actually switched hitting this year because he's a Ray handed hitter. Maybe he actually is a left handed hitter and we just didn't know about it. I don't know. I'm just throwing things out there.

00:09:00
Speaker 5: That's the new value. That's the new value, like pictures unlocked, different pitches, Like I used.

00:09:06
Speaker 1: To throw a curveball, Now I throw a sweeper.

00:09:07
Speaker 5: Whenever I got to this team, they were like, we've watched you hit right handed. I'm pretty sure you're left handed. I think somebody said that about me in my career. They're like, we've watched you hit right handed. You actually might be left handed. We don't know, do you guys?

00:09:24
Speaker 2: Ever hear the story about the Diamondbacks trading for the wrong Yes.

00:09:29
Speaker 1: I thought we did that. I told this story before. Phillies have released castianos. Here you go, boom so but breaking news. But when we when the Twins traded for David Ortiz, he was originally known as David Arias when I played against him in a ball the year before, when he was still with the Mariners and they and they traded for him, and they're like, oh, they traded I think it was Dave Hollins. Dave Hollins maybe for David Ortiz, David Arius. But when it came across the wire, it was for David Ortiz. So we all we all called Terry Ryan and we're like, hey, we traded for the wrong David. And he's like, what do you mean. We're like, no, no, no, we wanted David Aria's not David Ortiz's like, it's the same guy. Changed his name that offseason and he lost seven years of age. I'm just kidding little. That was the joke. Say no, he actually did it, but everything changed. That was the joke we used to make with him because he switched Froim, like his dad's name to his mom's name or something whatever it was. But we used to be like, oh, David, and he lost seven years on your age because that was kind of right about when all the age stuff was happening. Yes, but it wasn't true with David. So but it was just we're like, Terry Ryan, you traded for the wrong dude.

00:10:31
Speaker 2: The Diamondbacks had Brad Ziggler and many teams wanted him, and they ended up trading him to Boston. This was about ten years ago. Yeah, I think it was when it was Dave Stewart and some of his guys running the front office. I believe, I don't know. I shouldn't say that. I don't know who it was. And then some front office people were like, hey, we offered better than they did. We feel like we offered significantly better than they did. And then they go, wait a second, did they know they traded for the wrong Basabe. There were two Bassames, so.

00:11:10
Speaker 1: Red Sox were like, sure, we'll do that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because they said, I'm pulling this from from a Jeff Passon article back when he was working for Yahoo said, before Zigler was traded to Boston, the Diamondbacks were asking teams for front line prospects, all top one hundred type guys, some top fifty even higher. Cleveland, Toronto, the cups. They all wanted Ziggler, and all were gobsmacked by what the Diamondbacks ended up taking from Boston Luis Alejandro bisab and right hander Jose Almonte, and one GM in the story said, I wonder if they know they got the wrong Basabe, referencing Luis Alejandro's twin, Luis Alexander Bissabe, who was considered by scouts the better player of the two, ever make neither of them had made anything.

00:11:57
Speaker 1: His brother made.

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Speaker 5: His brother at fourteen bets Alexander.

00:12:03
Speaker 2: So even if they had gotten that, imagine.

00:12:07
Speaker 1: There's no bread. Brad Ziegler, he's in the book.

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Speaker 2: No I thought.

00:12:14
Speaker 1: I booked him. I can call him whatever I want.

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Speaker 2: When you book someone anytime, home off you, all right, That's why the book In conclusion, people make mistakes. People should try and remind people when they're making mistakes.

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Speaker 1: And yes, this is a big deal because one it's the White Sox and they've had a rough go of it lately. Yes, And also if it would have happened one time, then I think people would have been like, oh, he made a mistake. But when it repeatedly happens, that's when I think someone needs to step up to the play, whoever that person is, and say, hey, Chris, sorry, but now that it got called out on the internet because I got a bunch of textiles is kind of funny. He knew he was going to get asked about it. So then they had to put out this statement, which was clearly a PR let's jump ahead of this, yeah, which statement, which is fine, which is what the PR departments, these teams do. They did a good job of this to kind of make a joke out of it and the whole thing. But that's the thing is like once it became more than But again it goes back to he did one of these at the socks Fest, the fan fest, right, so you don't think there was a fan that was like, wait, what can And then and then when he did the one with Dave Kaplan who's a Cubs fan, so he doesn't know which side of the plate Luisa Kunya it's from and Eluna it's from right. So that was the one who did that I saw.

00:13:37
Speaker 2: Can I throw a theory out there? A GM might do many interviews and then and I mean players are victim of this sometimes too. Anybody that does many interviews sometimes they get an autopilot.

00:13:51
Speaker 1: But again that's where the PR person has to step up and say.

00:13:53
Speaker 2: Hey, you're auto pilot's off, like fix this because they say the same things over and over.

00:13:57
Speaker 1: Of course, they all have their talk. They're talking pot Yeah. If you listen to those inn the four that we showed, they're the exact same quotes for like, yeah, he can play anywhere in the field, he has good speed, he's a switch hitter, he's versus traded for me.

00:14:10
Speaker 2: Pliticians do that yeah, say the same things over and over again. You come up with your talking points. So they just had.

00:14:16
Speaker 1: The I looked it up.

00:14:21
Speaker 2: I'm literally just showing compassion, saying I feel bad for him.

00:14:26
Speaker 5: Oh, you're embarrassed for him, like you're like you're you're cringing for I looked it up to see if their other brother, who was actually born when I played with their dad, if he was if he was a switch hitter. He's also right handed, so their dad, their cousins, all of them right handed. So there was no switch hitters in the Acuna family that I'm aware of.

00:14:50
Speaker 2: He was just thinking, you know, he plays a lot of positions and he can just do it all on the field. You get him from the left side the right side.

00:14:58
Speaker 4: Oops.

00:14:59
Speaker 5: I've I think it's a little bit bigger a deal than what you guys said.

00:15:02
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm just saying it's not a big deal. All I said, who whoa, whoa. Don't misquote me.

00:15:06
Speaker 1: No, I said it wasn't a big deal.

00:15:08
Speaker 2: It's a big deal. You need to know your players and who you're trading for. I'm making fun of the Diamondbacks trading for a player that they did not know was the wrong player. What I'm saying is I also feel bad. It's like when my dog barks and goes crazy and thinks there's someone in the hallway and I opened the door and I'm like, you were freaking out, there's nothing here. I'm embarrassed for them, that's all.

00:15:28
Speaker 1: It is. What it is. It'll go away in one day. But it's just you know what it is. It's just funny. It's just funny because obviously people know I'm a white Sox fan, so people just text me this all the time, yeah, and say, what is your GAM doing? I'm like, ya, there's no answer, Like you made a mistake.

00:15:45
Speaker 2: Let's just see what the results look like. Is the team gonna be better, the team gonna be good or not?

00:15:50
Speaker 1: Well, it's probably not gonna be good, but the better I'll.

00:15:53
Speaker 2: Tell you one more thing. Folks, back in when the Winter Meetings were really fun, a bunch of gms would just sit at the bar, get drunk and make trades. That's what the GM or the Winter Meetings was about. And I think there's a little bit of the GM meetings. They might have like a cocktail and play pickleball or whatever. They don't really get much done. But you know, the real winter meetings back in the day.

00:16:15
Speaker 1: Back in the day was great. Everything happened.

00:16:20
Speaker 2: Drunk trades, real, real drunk trades. Not in nineteen twenty four. I'm talking in when do you think that ended? Yeah?

00:16:31
Speaker 5: Now they just take an edible and they don't trade anybody because everything's terrible. Bro, we don't have any money. That guy sucks in bass mall. What did your algorithm say, careful.

00:16:44
Speaker 2: Don't do that. It's WBC season. We can't talk about that stuff. They'll suspend you.

00:16:49
Speaker 1: That's Jobby Bias.

00:16:50
Speaker 2: You missed that.

00:16:51
Speaker 5: There's gonna be nobody left.

00:16:54
Speaker 2: This is so fun.

00:16:56
Speaker 1: I know we're gonna get into WBC's it gets closer and I have to do the games. Yeah, why do they have different drug rules when it's the same.

00:17:03
Speaker 2: Oh, so you're bringing up the topic from Priday?

00:17:05
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00:17:17
Speaker 2: Would you not?

00:17:18
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00:17:20
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00:18:28
Speaker 5: FM no, No. The other stadiums just don't have it's not installed. Hawkeye is not installed in Puerto Rico. It's not installed in I forget what the other location is, but Tokyo Dome, the Tokyo Dome.

00:18:43
Speaker 2: They probably have that, don't They can't.

00:18:44
Speaker 4: I don't ship one.

00:18:45
Speaker 1: They can't ship one over there to get this done. That's why they played a Big League game last year in the Tokyo Dome. They can't. They didn't put it. They didn't have all this stuff in. It's going to be part of it.

00:18:57
Speaker 5: It's gonna be part of They're gonna have to set up Hawkeye for the children of the corn game.

00:19:03
Speaker 1: Or I think can do that at Fields of Dreams.

00:19:06
Speaker 5: That's what I mean.

00:19:06
Speaker 1: Like this is you're gonna have a guy dressed up. You're gonna have one of the bad bunny people that was dressed up like the planting to be the howt guy guy it's a corn.

00:19:15
Speaker 2: And hold up on the weeds in the weeds.

00:19:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like seriously, that was kind of cool, though. I did like the people that were plants that if you see the videos and the running out there. Yeah, and you're like, what the hell was on there too?

00:19:29
Speaker 2: Ronald Cerney was there. All right, Shall we try to get back on track for a second. No, No, you don't want to.

00:19:35
Speaker 1: What's the point this point?

00:19:38
Speaker 2: Jose Burrios apologized for kind of ditching the team in the World Series last year. He wasn't going to pitch unless they needed him. He wasn't on the roster. He was frustrated about it. He is a really good dude, nice guy. I know I say that a lot, but if you can do the math, often we don't say that about someone, so maybe you can and for something. But with Jose, well like apologize to his teammates, bad decision, went home during the World Series, wanted to rehab with his family. Blue Jays players had been treating me amazing. They understand me. According to Brios, here's another case. I'm going to say, good guy. I don't think this is a testament to his character the whole way through. But that's a pretty big mistake. And if you go back to when we talked about this during the winter meetings, what if they needed him and he's not there.

00:20:24
Speaker 1: Well, my thing is like, I get you want to be with your family, but you want to rehab with your family. Like it's a week, dude, like ten days and most like you can have your family fly with you around. You have ton of money.

00:20:36
Speaker 2: It's the World Series, the World Series.

00:20:37
Speaker 1: You might never get back to one.

00:20:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I get it.

00:20:40
Speaker 1: He apologized. So he did do the right thing. I'll give him credit.

00:20:43
Speaker 2: That's the right thing.

00:20:43
Speaker 1: He did the right thing. He apologized. And listen, as we all know and Kratz knows this too, when you're in a clubhouse and a guy apologizes, you always are like, it's cool, man. But there's always right, There's always you know, crotch, there's always like that little bit of you that's like, okay, because we all we all screw up. We all screwed up, right, But there there are certain things as teammates. And I'm not saying jose Bris is a bad teammate, but there's a there's there's always that little bit in the back of your mind. It's like, damn, we were in the World Series and he chose not to be here because again, because he wanted to go with this, because he wanted to go rehab with his family.

00:21:30
Speaker 2: Because he was pissed that he wasn't on the roster.

00:21:32
Speaker 5: There, that's that's what AJ's saying is in his mind, he was pissed in that moment. Are you going to choose yourself over the team in another situation? Is what AJ was inferring right there. I'm not saying I think he did the right thing. I think the dudes know him because a week of a mistake is way different than an entire year of a mistake. But it's just like when somebody lies to you. If you're gonna lie about something, are you gonna lie about something? Big Jose Burrios is on this team. He has been a very He's been a huge piece to this team. He makes his starts, and he was pissed. Every single dude in that locker room would have been pissed unless they weren't worth their weren't worth their weight and salt like everybody gets that part of it.

00:22:21
Speaker 1: But you did leave. Do you forgive him?

00:22:25
Speaker 5: Yes? Do you remember it? Absolutely? Another thing? Cool stat? Look up how many earned runs he has given up in the last three years. It's one of those cool stats. He's given up seventy seven earned runs exactly in twenty twenty three, twenty four and twenty five anyway, completely off top.

00:22:47
Speaker 1: It's no Chris Davis a hit at two forty nine for like seven years in a rown. Oh my gosh, every year he get the same yeah a bunch. But so I mean, listen, this happened to me into my carew twenty fourteen. When I was at the Cardinals, right, they called me and say, hey, you're not going to be on the DS roster and I was like okay, Like I kind of knew it was coming, which is fine. Like I was like, okay, you know, why not and they're like, oh, we need an extra pitch or whatever. I was like okay. And the Mike Atheni when he called me, he was like, hey, you can go home and then just come back for the you know, if we win for the LCS, you know, da da da da or whatever. And I was like no, I'm like why would I go home? And he's like, I don't know, if you just want to go hang out with your family or no. He goes, you can go home for a couple of days and then you can come meet us in La or whatever, and I'm like no, He's like you don't have to come to the workouts or anything. I'm like, no, dude, like I'm there. He's like, what do you mean. I go, I'm part of it. I'm still part of the team, right, He's like, yeah, I go, then I'm going to be part of the team.

00:23:40
Speaker 2: Yeah.

00:23:41
Speaker 1: Like yeah, like I'm going. And I ended up having to play in the LCS because yeah, he got hurt, right, But I'm like, yeah, like, I'm not just commuting. It was my last chance to go to the playoffs. I'm like, I'm riding this bitch out and you can like I'm enjoying this.

00:23:53
Speaker 2: What if you say that one thing that changes everything?

00:23:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought I did. After Adams sit that home er off kershot, I thought, man, that was we're doing it here so long hit a walk off homer in Game two of the LCS.

00:24:04
Speaker 2: Are you say something to them?

00:24:06
Speaker 1: No, No, the.

00:24:09
Speaker 5: Game I was what you weren't You weren't on the roster. You were drunk half the game. You add skills if you drink a little bit of Kolu in your coffee.

00:24:19
Speaker 1: But no, you guys would have won it.

00:24:21
Speaker 5: You guys would have wanted it, except Travis Chikawa got you.

00:24:24
Speaker 2: True true Beautiful Brewer Territory and their host Corey Knabel, joining us right now on FT. Corey, it's awesome to have you a part of the FT fam. We're excited. I listened to the show yesterday with you and Kurt Hoag and it was really good, really good energy, great insight. So thanks for joining us, but also welcome.

00:24:44
Speaker 4: Hey, good to be here.

00:24:45
Speaker 1: Man.

00:24:46
Speaker 4: Thanks learning, and I'm really enjoying this opportunity.

00:24:50
Speaker 2: So it's.

00:24:56
Speaker 4: Uh, yeah, we're in the mountains right now. We're in Colorado.

00:25:00
Speaker 5: I was gonna say either that or you're dressed up is like blue super Mario Brothers.

00:25:05
Speaker 4: Hey you retired, man, I get to go. Yeah, I'm snowboarding now.

00:25:09
Speaker 2: So oh I love it. I love it. Are we fresh off the mountain right now? Sure?

00:25:15
Speaker 4: I am?

00:25:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's yeah.

00:25:17
Speaker 4: Let's I don't know if I can turn it. No, I got no clue how to do that.

00:25:22
Speaker 2: That's okay, y, we'll get yelled that.

00:25:27
Speaker 1: I just before we get into the baseball. So, so you're one of those people that's a snowboarder. Huh, you're one of those people that I am.

00:25:33
Speaker 4: Now. I didn't know I was until after baseball, and I I like snowboarding. I'm one of those guys. I'm not a skier, Is that what you're implying.

00:25:41
Speaker 1: Yes, because skiers, I don't like snowboarders because when you're a skier and you actually have skill and you actually just going down the mountain, then a snowboarder runs by and like take your knee on, Like I'm on the rail, bro, I got out on the edge.

00:25:57
Speaker 4: B I'm shredding the gnarl right, yeah, exactly, punk rock and their headphones.

00:26:04
Speaker 1: Oh they got their beats by dres Yeah, their crazy hat helmet with like the slowhawk.

00:26:13
Speaker 2: And then you're just like you just to close games for the Brewers.

00:26:17
Speaker 4: Yeah exactly, you have no idea.

00:26:20
Speaker 2: All right, that's good. All right. So anyway, what do you think about the Brewers this year?

00:26:27
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, there's been a lot of moves recently. I'm still excited to watch you. I'm excited to be a part of this, but man, you know, losing Freddy, I completely understand the moves, but you know, also and then you go in and losing Durban. So it's just, you know, Matt Arnold's got something up to sleep from sugar, and I think there's a lot of opportunities for a lot of young guys to come and I prove themselves.

00:26:52
Speaker 5: Wait, wait, do you work for our fould Territory network or do you work for the Brewers? I mean, you don't have to drink the whole kool aid like they got rid of everybody for like they got rid of their ace a year after having the most wins, I know, rid of the number three and number four rookies of the year.

00:27:11
Speaker 1: Are they gonna be MVPs this year? No, that's not what I'm saying.

00:27:15
Speaker 4: No, but you still have what he You still haven't seen him to get up his to his full potential.

00:27:21
Speaker 2: You know.

00:27:21
Speaker 4: I think that's what they're trying to get him into is maybe let him step into his ACE role that he's familiar with being in. And you got miss who's you know, obviously going to be your perfect one two punch. And then yeah, obviously we just got Henderson in the trade. So I'm excited to see a couple of these guys. But I mean, I can't be too optimistic about it. You know, we had a lot of young guys in twenty eighteen, and look what we did. I guess we had crats, but there's a little different.

00:27:55
Speaker 1: It is different.

00:27:56
Speaker 5: But as as a Brewers fan, do you want to see this team make it to the playoffs with Freddie Peralta or without Freddie Parolta Because the overarching and I think it's what you're saying, is well, it doesn't really matter because Matt Arnold's got something up his sleeve and it's gonna be these young prospects and they're gonna make it back to the playoffs. But wouldn't it be awesome if miz takes that next step, if Big.

00:28:20
Speaker 1: Wu returns to his number one form, to.

00:28:23
Speaker 5: Have a number three because last year they were going into Game three with a spot starter as a team with the most wins in baseball, Like, that's not what I assume Brewers fans won.

00:28:38
Speaker 4: I would agree. I think this surprised a lot of people. And obviously, like you said, there's a lot of ifs, a lot of ifs in that situation, so you know, a lot of things have to kind of fall into place here. But man, it's who knows what else is left though, you know, there's a lot of big trades, a lot of prospects coming in, and there could still be some was made obviously, you know, seeing Hamilton come over, I think that third base is still up for grabs. Bullpen at the end of the end of the game looks solid. Still, I don't know. I mean, there's still they need to get some bats. Obviously, there's still a lot of this. I know it's.

00:29:24
Speaker 1: Wait, but hold on in a second. You were just talking about him winning the World Series. Now sudden there's I like, wait a second.

00:29:30
Speaker 2: There's no bats.

00:29:31
Speaker 1: Stop, I'll stop.

00:29:33
Speaker 4: There's if there's if there I mean, you're hopeful, you know, you hope, you hope you can make a good run.

00:29:41
Speaker 1: You sound like a Brewers fan that we'd be talking to, like on the side of the street. That's like, well, if if Wilson Contreras hits sixty like cal Rawly did, If Bryce Terraang hits forty, if Christian Yeax plays one hundred and sixty two, if Jackson Tario doesn't get hurt and hits forty, if Woody doesn't get hurt, if miss can figure out how to throw it over the played for thirty starts. If yeah, I mean, if everything goes perfect. Yeah, if but didn't we just sign Gary Sanchez too. Okay, there's another bat do what el Gary? Yeah? Yeah, Gary.

00:30:17
Speaker 4: So there's I mean there's another bat hopefully get back to his his all star form as well. There's a lot of this, but it's still it's still the Al Central. There's still Brewers trying to think of who you got in there. I mean, there there's gonna be some competition obviously with the Cubs and the Reds are always going to have their bats. So I think that there's still a good opportunity that they win. They can at least win the division, get get into the wild Card. There's a lot of opportunities now with baseball, but there is also a lot of this. Let's just let's how it is, man. I mean, yo, if everyone can stay healthy the Dodgers, right, if everyone can stay healthy every year with the Dodgers, they're gonna they're gonna have a chance to win it every year. And last year everything fell into place.

00:31:14
Speaker 5: So all right, listen, listen, you blue your blue smurf. I'm gonna go to an area that you can't give me an ifs or butts. You know, you know Hooky, you know Chris the pitching coach for the Brewers, can he help Kyle Harrison learn to throw strikes, be more consistent, be that like super high ceiling pitcher that everybody in baseball has always ranked.

00:31:41
Speaker 1: Him hat as.

00:31:43
Speaker 5: And if he can do it, how does he do that?

00:31:48
Speaker 4: I couldn't tell you how he's gonna do it, obviously, that's what Hookey knows and only Hooky knows. But I do have faith in Hookie obviously, seeing what he's done over the years in his career in the minor league level and the major league level. I think Hookie knows exactly how to work with these guys. He sees the spin rate of these guys, he knows where these guys need to throw to be successful. And I mean they've done a really good job obviously the past couple of years, past few years of having a very strong starting rotation and bullpen getting ahead throwing strikes, knowing that what you have is enough. Yeah, of course, I think Hookie knows exactly what he's doing with this guy, and he's gonna he's gonna do everything that he can possibly so high spin rate, good change up. Like you said, I mean, if he can just learn to throw strikes just what twenty thirty percent more of the time, then he's going to be very successful.

00:32:50
Speaker 1: Wow, that's a big jump. But it's another if just saying twenty to thirty, there's another that's a giant jump. By the way, I thought you said like five percent maybe, but twenty to thirty Damn, that's a lot of Man. If I was twenty twenty to thirty percent more homers, I'd be at the.

00:33:04
Speaker 4: All thing exactly. If I'm throwing eight percent over my fifty percent, I'd probably still be playing right now. So you're right, You're.

00:33:14
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, what I just want to know, you were a Brewer guy, you were a bullpen guy. You were on a couple of teams before you got to the Brewers. What are the Brewers telling you? Said, I don't know what Hooky tells them. What did he tell you? And what do they tell their bullpen that makes them so successful at finding guys off waivers, finding guys other teams dump and make them so great, especially the bullpen guys they have, Uh I mean, and.

00:33:38
Speaker 4: From my experience in Milwaukee was, look, they want to find guys that are coming in that are gonna throw strikes. Obviously they love guys that throw hard. You see it, You've got plenty of guys in the bullpen that are flame throwers. And you can always work with flame throwers, right, but guys that come in that are I spin rate or they've got you know, your sinker, slider, chain jump. Now, the sweepers, anybody that knows they're coming in and they're gonna throw strikes, they're not gonna come in and be timid, be afraid. They're coming in. And look, Milwaukee's always had, right, some really good starting pitchers who are gonna get you five to six innings, and so you know that the bullpen's probably coming in for three to four innings to find two to three innings to finish out the game. So, I mean, I don't know how they find them, but they do.

00:34:39
Speaker 1: They find They found you.

00:34:41
Speaker 4: They found me the hours before Hooky, but I worked with Hookey in Double A and the spring training. But look, that's where I think Matt Arnold has a great relationship with Murphy and Hooky, and they know what they're looking for. They know the guys they are looking for. I don't know who that who those guys are, but they have found those guys right the past. What is it we're in twenty twenty six season now, So they have found those guys since really twenty eighteen. I mean they've been making playoff runs since then.

00:35:14
Speaker 1: So who's the guy.

00:35:17
Speaker 5: Who's the guy that you're watching, Somebody you haven't mentioned yet that you're like, if this guy can take the next step, if this guy can come Obviously A's gonna give you a hard time because it's ifs, but there's always somebody that you're like, this guy takes that next step, the Brewers are going to be, oh okay.

00:35:37
Speaker 4: Honestly, man, I mean, it's not a taking the next step for me. I want to see Woodriff. I want to see Woodroff get back to his Obviously, these injuries, the surgeries that he's been having, you know, it's it's part of the business, but I want to see him get back. You know, he he started looking really good last year and then he had some you know, inflammation build up and he was out all postseason, you know. So I think I want to see him get back to his his form, his all star form, his the numbers that he has in the playoffs. I want to see him back. And if if wood he can come back, I think that having that ace is going to be a very solid start for the Brewers.

00:36:25
Speaker 1: It's fair. Yeah, help all the f's work out for the Brewers. Big fan of a big fan of the Brewers, big fan of a sala hurts my heart.

00:36:33
Speaker 2: They won ninety seven games last year. They got beat by the World Champs. They had a really nice season last year. Now are they weaker on paper this year? Yes?

00:36:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you can make that argument.

00:36:45
Speaker 2: But it's I do you think they went from ninety seven to what?

00:36:51
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot of young guys. Yeah, we don't know how that would be. Oh yeah, did you say sorry?

00:36:58
Speaker 1: Yeah? So yeah, I said I'd like to sell as much as it pains me to say that.

00:37:04
Speaker 2: Oh superstar he is. He's good people. Well so are you, Corey. It's good catching up. I want you to hop back on the mountain for us. Okay, blast the punk rock, run into everyone, tell them you don't even know what my freaking closer entrance song was, and enjoy the day. But we're happy to have it as part of the team. Right, we'll be listening to Brewer Territory all right.

00:37:26
Speaker 4: I appreciate it, guys, Thanks for having me on.

00:37:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, great to talk to you. Corey Canabel with us on FT and check out Brewer territory. There it is scenes from the first episode. Kurt Hogue and Corey Cannabel part of the FT Network. Kurt has been a frequent guest on the show over the years, giving us the goods on the Brewers, following the team on a daily basis. Corey obviously look them up kids, if you want to know what it is, Corey, Oh yeah, strikeout machine.

00:37:56
Speaker 1: One day.

00:37:56
Speaker 5: One day I got a good Corey Cabel wasn't doing real well story, and they put him on the IL got him back and he ended up being the best pitcher in baseball for the last two months of the eighteen season

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