Mafia: The Old Country Review Round-Up

<v Speaker 1>Hey, everybody, welcome to Game Mess Mornings with Me Jeff Grub,
<v Speaker 1>your host from giant bomb dot com.
<v Speaker 2>Thank you for tuning in. In this episode, we're.
<v Speaker 1>Gonna be talking about Mafia, the Old Country reviews, and
<v Speaker 1>East PlayStation really gonna keep making live service games.
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be a good one because we have jan
<v Speaker 2>A Choa on the show. Jan how are you doing?
<v Speaker 3>The thing I forgot, Grub is that migrain medication at
<v Speaker 3>least etc. Has caffeine in it, so it probably shouldn't
<v Speaker 3>take it past five pm?
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So it.
<v Speaker 1>Helps the migraines and then keeps you awake and then
<v Speaker 1>you're sleepy the next day.
<v Speaker 2>How are you feeling? You know, the kids are worried
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<v Speaker 3>Generally broken already, Grub. But you know, it's like someone
<v Speaker 3>had stepped on the broken glass and then forgot to
<v Speaker 3>take their shoes off. I'm not sure which part of
<v Speaker 3>me I am in the metaphor here of it, but
<v Speaker 3>we're we're hanging and clanging, Grub. We're we're here, We're
<v Speaker 3>out here, We're getting back into the swing of things. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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<v Speaker 3>a good thing.
<v Speaker 2>How are you doing otherwise?
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<v Speaker 1>All right, we have a lot to get into, so
<v Speaker 1>let's start the morning mess with those Mafia the Old
<v Speaker 1>Country reviews are in. Not a lot of them actually
<v Speaker 1>checked out Open Critics, like sixteen reviews worldwide so far
<v Speaker 1>tract there's probably gonna be more coming soon, and a
<v Speaker 1>lot of those were from European sites.
<v Speaker 2>Things I had heard of a bunch before.
<v Speaker 1>Not that that means anything, but it has a seventy
<v Speaker 1>nine on Open Critic right now, or at least at
<v Speaker 1>the time that I put this here into the dock
<v Speaker 1>and Jake Decker over a game spot.
<v Speaker 2>Hey, I love you, Jakie.
<v Speaker 1>Six out of ten from Jake, and he said Mafia
<v Speaker 1>the Old Country uses its stunning setting to tell a
<v Speaker 1>familiar story about loyalty and family that's propped up by
<v Speaker 1>its cast of characters. WCCF tex Lesio Palumba a plumbog
<v Speaker 1>excuse me, gave it an eight out of ten and said,
<v Speaker 1>Mafia the Old Country aims squarely at being a narrative
<v Speaker 1>experience and largely succeeds in that while also providing solid gameplay.
<v Speaker 1>It is a bit of a shame that we don't
<v Speaker 1>get a get to truly explore sicily in this game.
<v Speaker 1>But if you're into Mafia narratives, this is among the
<v Speaker 1>best you can find in games, and the entry price
<v Speaker 1>isn't that high either. Amikoulos at Checkpoint Gaming give it
<v Speaker 1>an eight point five out of ten and said, at
<v Speaker 1>first Mafia the Old Country swept me up straight away.
<v Speaker 1>It's stunning world, compelling story and rich sense of place.
<v Speaker 1>Felt like an Italian holiday as I played on the
<v Speaker 1>simplicity of its combat and stealth stood out more, but
<v Speaker 1>that's not what I valued most. Not the most inventive
<v Speaker 1>action game, but one of the most immersive Yule play
<v Speaker 1>this year. This is a leaner and more focused Mafia
<v Speaker 1>game that trades scale for storytelling and world building, and
<v Speaker 1>in doing so delivers something quietly special.
<v Speaker 2>You know what this sounds like to me, Jane.
<v Speaker 1>It sounds like a game that was made with a
<v Speaker 1>reduced scope, and that was like a marching order, like
<v Speaker 1>make get a game that we can put out in
<v Speaker 1>a handful of years.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And so it was an open world.
<v Speaker 1>They focused on the nerve, they focused on the characters,
<v Speaker 1>and it sounds like it's good for what it was
<v Speaker 1>going for. It sounds like they nailed exactly what they
<v Speaker 1>were going for. Now, maybe the gameplay is a bit
<v Speaker 1>too simple. I saw that echo to maybe some other reviews,
<v Speaker 1>even that the gameplay is mediocre at best. In some cases,
<v Speaker 1>some people like it more. But hearing that, you know,
<v Speaker 1>the story, the setting, the visuals all hit real hard.
<v Speaker 1>I think it's going to go a long way for
<v Speaker 1>a game like this.
<v Speaker 2>What do you think?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I unfortunately have this association with Mafia. I've never
<v Speaker 3>really explored any of those games, but I have this
<v Speaker 3>association with Mafia kind of hovering around this review range, right,
<v Speaker 3>not quite a B game, not quite an A game,
<v Speaker 3>kind of like B plus to a minus tier of
<v Speaker 3>like budget and scope. And you know, for all all
<v Speaker 3>intents and purposes, we don't have a GTA six coming
<v Speaker 3>out in like the next couple weeks or whatever. So
<v Speaker 3>this is this game doesn't really quite have too much
<v Speaker 3>competition in the style of game that it's aiming to do.
<v Speaker 3>Mind's Eye didn't eat Mafia's lunch. So it's it's great
<v Speaker 3>to hear that it is completely okay in folks that
<v Speaker 3>are looking to get back into Mafia or folks that
<v Speaker 3>just I don't know, I want to explore this crime genre,
<v Speaker 3>have something to tie them over until GTA.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and uh, you know, there's definitely plenty of mob
<v Speaker 1>media out there, and it's I think, you know, there
<v Speaker 1>is one thing to be said for trying to build
<v Speaker 1>an open world where people can explore a time setting.
<v Speaker 1>That is what the previous Mafia games did, but I
<v Speaker 1>never loved that.
<v Speaker 2>It was never great. The fact these games have.
<v Speaker 1>Always been mid they've always been pretty mediocre. So them
<v Speaker 1>could being like, you know what, let's reduce the amount
<v Speaker 1>of exposure we have to that stuff that we can
<v Speaker 1>never really pull off, and maybe and maybe by ratio,
<v Speaker 1>increased the amount of stuff that we have that was good,
<v Speaker 1>which is the setting and the characters and apparently in
<v Speaker 1>this game the way it looks. Then, yeah, that that
<v Speaker 1>sounds like a good recipe for getting a slightly better
<v Speaker 1>version of Mafia. This is not gonna I don't think
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna win any awards. I don't think it's going
<v Speaker 1>to be maybe anyone's Game of the Year, but I
<v Speaker 1>bet it's going to surprise a handful of people who
<v Speaker 1>like pick it up because they hear maybe this is
<v Speaker 1>for me, And I bet I bet quite a few
<v Speaker 1>people be like, we'll be really happy.
<v Speaker 2>With the game.
<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen any want to say. Anyone say how
<v Speaker 1>long it is? If it's like ten to twelve hours,
<v Speaker 1>I might try to play this jan longer than that.
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I could justify it, but I might
<v Speaker 1>start it up if it's around that that long.
<v Speaker 3>I have funny enough grub. I think everything about this
<v Speaker 3>game really is in the title Mafia the Old Country.
<v Speaker 3>Instead of focusing on a giant open world, it's just
<v Speaker 3>like a little bit of sicily, a little bit.
<v Speaker 1>It's just a bit, a bit of sicily. Yeah it's okay, Yeah, mechanized.
<v Speaker 1>It could win a it could win a BAFTA. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I guess it could. But I don't know how far. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>medi either. I think Ben Starr just gets them. I
<v Speaker 1>think at this point, good for him. Yeah, he deserves it,
<v Speaker 1>all right, Let's keep moving right along here. PS five
<v Speaker 1>sales reach eighty million worldwide in latest milestone. This is
<v Speaker 1>from Darren Bonthus at GameSpot. Business is once again booming
<v Speaker 1>for Sony, as the company announced that lifetime sales of
<v Speaker 1>the PS five console have reached eighty point three million
<v Speaker 1>units shipped as of June thirty. This new figure comes
<v Speaker 1>from Sony's quarterly results for its current financial year, with
<v Speaker 1>the company adding that two point five million consoles were
<v Speaker 1>shipped during the three month period, an increase of one
<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand when compared to the same period during the
<v Speaker 1>previous financial year.
<v Speaker 2>That's good news.
<v Speaker 1>I think for them to be like that they can
<v Speaker 1>you know, this is shipped, not sold, but still that
<v Speaker 1>those numbers are related. Hearing that, it's like, oh, it's
<v Speaker 1>actually going up a little bit from last year. There
<v Speaker 1>was a I think last year it was kind of
<v Speaker 1>down year over yere if I'm remembering correctly. If not,
<v Speaker 1>it was pretty flat. So then being able to get
<v Speaker 1>more in the channel and have the confidence that they're
<v Speaker 1>going to be able to sell them, I think that
<v Speaker 1>makes it sound like, oh, you know what, PS five
<v Speaker 1>in a very good place.
<v Speaker 2>Let's continue along here.
<v Speaker 1>The PlayStation network has also grown, with Sony reporting that
<v Speaker 1>the subscriber number has increased to one hundred and twenty
<v Speaker 1>three million users. I don't know if I think that's okay, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>PlayStation network. I don't know if that's subscribers a subscriber number.
<v Speaker 1>I think that's people who are actively us PlayStation network
<v Speaker 1>in one way or another, and that would include people
<v Speaker 1>signing into PSN to play a game on Steam or
<v Speaker 1>something like that. But it's one hundred and twenty three
<v Speaker 1>million active users compared to last year's number. During the
<v Speaker 1>same quarter, that number has grown by seven million. They're
<v Speaker 1>saying subscribers. Maybe the subscribers, but that's I think that
<v Speaker 1>seems pretty high to me. And the game's department. PS
<v Speaker 1>five and PS four software reached a combined total of
<v Speaker 1>sixty five point nine million copies sold, an increase of
<v Speaker 1>twelve point.
<v Speaker 2>Three million units year on year.
<v Speaker 1>First party games counted for six point nine million and
<v Speaker 1>raised an increase arise of nine hundred thousand compared to
<v Speaker 1>last year. The future of game sales is also looking
<v Speaker 1>increasingly digital, as Sony says that eighty three percent of
<v Speaker 1>software sales were digital downloads. Okay, yeah, so the overall,
<v Speaker 1>and I read some more on the PlayStation results, it's
<v Speaker 1>doing very well. They are their operating income was up
<v Speaker 1>like something like one hundred percent or something like doubled
<v Speaker 1>or operating income from last year.
<v Speaker 2>So profits our way up. Growth is up.
<v Speaker 1>They're kind of they're just kind of hitting on all
<v Speaker 1>cylinders and a lot of some of these numbers are
<v Speaker 1>from when the Switch too launched, not that I think
<v Speaker 1>anyone was really expecting the Switch two to come in there.
<v Speaker 2>And butt heads with PlayStation.
<v Speaker 1>They are kind of on parallel paths, not necessarily intersecting
<v Speaker 1>with one another too much.
<v Speaker 2>But hey, no, the system's doing very well. It does
<v Speaker 2>make me wonder, like.
<v Speaker 1>We go back a lot to PlayStation is making choices
<v Speaker 1>because they're worried about growth. They are seeing growth, and
<v Speaker 1>I don't feel like that growth is because they've made
<v Speaker 1>desperate decisions to go in the direction of live service games.
<v Speaker 1>Although we'll talk about that in a second. It just
<v Speaker 1>seems like people are happy with their PlayStation and are
<v Speaker 1>buying them to play video games.
<v Speaker 2>Does that sound right to you?
<v Speaker 3>I think greub if I was not in this field
<v Speaker 3>and I was just kind of doing some increased amount
<v Speaker 3>of research from like the normis parentheses not derogatory, I
<v Speaker 3>think the PlayStation side of things. With consoles. This is
<v Speaker 3>also barring looking at a switch to because switch one
<v Speaker 3>switch two always feels like such a specific case. But
<v Speaker 3>if you're going to decide between a console right now,
<v Speaker 3>between a PlayStation five or an Xbox, I'd probably go
<v Speaker 3>for a PlayStation five. Sometimes that's where friend groups are
<v Speaker 3>skewing towards the exclusives are going to And now, you know,
<v Speaker 3>with Xbox games, and we've talked about it either last
<v Speaker 3>week or two weeks ago, where the top selling PS
<v Speaker 3>five games are all Xbox games, Why bother getting an
<v Speaker 3>Xbox at this point, especially if you just have to
<v Speaker 3>wait a little bit for that exclusivity window to close up,
<v Speaker 3>and then you can get Indiana Jones, you can get forts,
<v Speaker 3>so you can get grounded to Grounded one. It seems
<v Speaker 3>like why not get a PlayStation five if you were
<v Speaker 3>itching to get a console or upgrade to get a console.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean a couple things. Chat's helping us out here.
<v Speaker 1>That one hundred and twenty three million number, one hundred
<v Speaker 1>twenty fo ye, one hundre on three million number. That
<v Speaker 1>does sound like monthly active users. So just people who
<v Speaker 1>are touching PlayStation network in any way.
<v Speaker 2>As far as far as what you were.
<v Speaker 1>Saying, Jan, yeah, you know what, maybe that's what this is.
<v Speaker 1>Maybe this growth that PlayStations is seen is a little
<v Speaker 1>bit of the effect of people.
<v Speaker 2>Being like, oh man, I like my Xbox.
<v Speaker 1>I was an Xbox person, but I'm kind of not
<v Speaker 1>seeing the point of continuing to invest in that platform
<v Speaker 1>long term. Maybe I should just make the tough choice.
<v Speaker 1>And now even more people are defaulting to PlayStation as
<v Speaker 1>their home for games. Someone yes, someone else chat says
<v Speaker 1>getting to PlayStation five as a you know, quote unquote
<v Speaker 1>casual not you know, not a pejorative, is a it's
<v Speaker 1>going to be a system that will get you most
<v Speaker 1>good games eventually one way or the other, whether they
<v Speaker 1>are PlayStation games, third party games that are going to
<v Speaker 1>be their day one or now Xbox games that will
<v Speaker 1>be there within six months in some cases three months,
<v Speaker 1>in some cases less than that. So it does feel
<v Speaker 1>like that is having an effect on PlayStation sales in
<v Speaker 1>a positive way. So maybe once again, yes, the overall
<v Speaker 1>pool of people playing console games is not blowing up
<v Speaker 1>and growing and that's and so Sony's still concerned about that. Maybe,
<v Speaker 1>and at the same time, they are taking a bigger
<v Speaker 1>piece of the existing pot and that's doing really well
<v Speaker 1>for them. That is probably the correct assummation of what's happening, right.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's my assumption as well. I mean, even talking
<v Speaker 3>to my friend, my min normy friends. Again not derogatory,
<v Speaker 3>they have all gotten and upgraded to like a PS
<v Speaker 3>five pro just because like that is. Yeah, it was
<v Speaker 3>astounding to me, and they had assumed I had made
<v Speaker 3>that jump a long time ago, but I had to
<v Speaker 3>break the news that up I myself barely turn on
<v Speaker 3>my PS five But that's because I have a PC
<v Speaker 3>that I used to write games, right, But.
<v Speaker 1>I guess that makes sense if you're not playing PC,
<v Speaker 1>A PS five Pro suddenly becomes like, yeah, that's why
<v Speaker 1>I'm playing games all.
<v Speaker 3>It makes some sense to me, sure exactly. And you
<v Speaker 3>know they're folks that have said this in the chat.
<v Speaker 3>There are people that will never touch a PC, no
<v Speaker 3>matter how easier it has gotten over the last couple
<v Speaker 3>of years. You have something like a Steam deck, you
<v Speaker 3>have so many gaming PCs, gaming laptops readily available now,
<v Speaker 3>even at costcos pre builts, people will still never touch them.
<v Speaker 3>They just prefer the plug and play aspect of a console,
<v Speaker 3>and some stuff is scary on a PC.
<v Speaker 2>Still.
<v Speaker 4>I don't know what a biosy is.
<v Speaker 2>I am setting up.
<v Speaker 1>One of my old PCs for Emmy because she's reached
<v Speaker 1>the point of Minecraft where now she'll play Minecraft, she'll
<v Speaker 1>go watch a Minecraft video. Minecraft YouTuber will be like, hey,
<v Speaker 1>I'm installing this mod and I'm doing all these things.
<v Speaker 1>Then she goes to me, how do I do this?
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, oh, I don't know if Bedrock can
<v Speaker 1>do that, we might have to be playing Java. And
<v Speaker 1>then she said, well what is that? And now it's like, okay,
<v Speaker 1>well let's go get a PC. So I got one
<v Speaker 1>of my older desktops, is actually the nct n cXt
<v Speaker 1>H one, the one that.
<v Speaker 4>Was on fire.
<v Speaker 1>Don't worry everybody, I did the fix for it, so
<v Speaker 1>it's not going to catch on fire. So I put
<v Speaker 1>that in her room and we're setting it up and
<v Speaker 1>we're installing Windows and I'm like, I gotta update Windows.
<v Speaker 1>She's like Windows, I doesn't that suck because she always
<v Speaker 1>hears me complaining about it. So yeah, Like I'm like, oh, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>this is gonna be She's gonna be like one of
<v Speaker 1>the kids in her class with a gaming PC.
<v Speaker 2>That is still going to be a pretty rare thing.
<v Speaker 1>I think it's aspirational for like young kids, but I
<v Speaker 1>think of anyone who's older who did not get into
<v Speaker 1>PC gaming at some point in their life. Yeah, it's
<v Speaker 1>it's just a hassle in a lot of cases, so
<v Speaker 1>PlayStation five sols.
<v Speaker 4>A lot of that, Yeah, one hundred percent.
<v Speaker 3>There are so many aspects of like my friends growing
<v Speaker 3>up that had so much friction to getting a PC
<v Speaker 3>that they completely skipped going down that pipeline and wound
<v Speaker 3>up getting like a Mac because of how I don't
<v Speaker 3>want to say console ish it is, but like how
<v Speaker 3>very closed garden.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, closed garden.
<v Speaker 3>And how less they have to worry about out the
<v Speaker 3>miscellaneous things on the internet other than what they partake in. Yep,
<v Speaker 3>that's super cool about the gimmick getting into Java Minecraft.
<v Speaker 3>That's the least stuff.
<v Speaker 2>The real stuff.
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna probably be subscribing to some patreons to get
<v Speaker 1>some cool mods for that game or something. Yeah, it's
<v Speaker 1>it's it's fun to see and it's like I was like,
<v Speaker 1>you know, the kids, they're gonna be too young for
<v Speaker 1>phones really in any real way for a long time.
<v Speaker 1>But a desktop PC, now, that's that's real shit. I
<v Speaker 1>do want my kids to be the ones that grow
<v Speaker 1>up with desktop PCs.
<v Speaker 2>So fun to set that up.
<v Speaker 3>Grub, how long you think it's gonna take for the
<v Speaker 3>gimmick to go from Java Minecraft to Valorant yeah.
<v Speaker 1>See, I I'm worried, like, uh, is she gonna need
<v Speaker 1>to get into those Well, she is asking about among
<v Speaker 1>us a lot, and so I'm like, I'm like, I
<v Speaker 1>need to like set up a playdate where the community comes,
<v Speaker 1>hangs out and like plays nice with my kids and
<v Speaker 1>we all play among us or something, because I don't
<v Speaker 1>know how, like I can try to get our cousins
<v Speaker 1>to do it, but that would be me running you know,
<v Speaker 1>support to get everybody in the same room and on
<v Speaker 1>the like in the you know, we'll get all their
<v Speaker 1>devices connected together remotely for their cousins that are in
<v Speaker 1>another state. And I'm like, that's such a hass. So
<v Speaker 1>I need people that just know what they're doing. So
<v Speaker 1>I think we are on the pathway. But I think
<v Speaker 1>by the time, like she's eight now, I think by
<v Speaker 1>the time she's eleven or twelve will be in Valorant
<v Speaker 1>or Counterstrike or something not long after that. So three
<v Speaker 1>to four years we go, all right, let's stick with
<v Speaker 1>these PlayStation results. Sony CFO says its live service shift
<v Speaker 1>is quote not entirely going smoothly, but pledges to carry
<v Speaker 1>on and learn from mistakes. This is from Chris Scully
<v Speaker 1>and at VGC, and I think this is like interesting
<v Speaker 1>to see how they to hear how they break this down.
<v Speaker 1>Sony's chief financial officer says the company will learn from
<v Speaker 1>its live service failures and a Q and A session
<v Speaker 1>following the company's latest financial results, One Color asked its
<v Speaker 1>panel of executives for an update on the current status
<v Speaker 1>of PlayStation's live service plan and where it sees the
<v Speaker 1>issues when it comes to improving its live service games.
<v Speaker 1>Sony cf CFO Lynn Taw replied that despite the negativity
<v Speaker 1>surrounding Sony's live service offerings thanks to the issues with
<v Speaker 1>thanks to the issues with Concord and Marathon, Concord came
<v Speaker 1>and went and they had to pull the plug on
<v Speaker 1>it big like two hundred million dollar loss, and then
<v Speaker 1>Marathon got delayed, she still believes and we'll have more
<v Speaker 1>to sale Marathon here in a second as well. She
<v Speaker 1>still believes that live service games are worthwhile because they've
<v Speaker 1>added a revenue stream that didn't exist for the company
<v Speaker 1>five years ago. Last year Concord shutdown and this year
<v Speaker 1>Marathon was postponed, So somewhat negative news has been coming out,
<v Speaker 1>Tao said, but if we look at the past five years.
<v Speaker 1>Five years ago, live service games were almost non existent
<v Speaker 1>for PlayStation studios. We now have hell Divers two MLB,
<v Speaker 1>The Show and Grant Tresmos seven and Bungee's Destiny too,
<v Speaker 1>So we have these four live services contributing to and
<v Speaker 1>profits in a stable manner. Tao had earlier noted that
<v Speaker 1>during Sony's results presentation that live service games accounted for
<v Speaker 1>around forty percent of first party software revenue for the
<v Speaker 1>past quarter, and cited this again in her reply for
<v Speaker 1>Q one. The live service ratio was about forty percent
<v Speaker 1>for the full year. It's a little less, probably between
<v Speaker 1>twenty to thirty percent, she said, So in terms of
<v Speaker 1>the transformation, it's not entirely going smoothly. But from a
<v Speaker 1>longer term perspective, if you look at the changes over
<v Speaker 1>five years, you see that there's definitely been a change,
<v Speaker 1>and there's a couple things here. Chan yeah, that I
<v Speaker 1>think that number is undeniable. Forty percent of the revenue
<v Speaker 1>from the last quarter undeniable. At the same time, this
<v Speaker 1>whole thing has always felt like them looking at a
<v Speaker 1>number and working backward and being like, oh, okay, this
<v Speaker 1>is what the live service is doing for someone else.
<v Speaker 1>Look at that big number. Here's what it's starting to
<v Speaker 1>do for us. We need more of that, so everyone,
<v Speaker 1>we need this number to grow. Go make games that way.
<v Speaker 1>And that's why I developed, like Benz Studios and Bluepoint
<v Speaker 1>and all these other ones internally, when they're pitching internally
<v Speaker 1>to try to get their games green lighted, they were
<v Speaker 1>pitching live service games thinking that's the way to get
<v Speaker 1>money inside of Sony and they were right.
<v Speaker 2>And now that has led them into this mess.
<v Speaker 1>Where those games I mentioned, the Benz Studio game was canceled.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the Bluepoint game.
<v Speaker 1>Which was supposedly a God of War game, that was
<v Speaker 1>also canceled. Right, So there's been more issues than just
<v Speaker 1>Marathon and Concord. And at the same time, you can't
<v Speaker 1>deny the number. So where does this all leave your
<v Speaker 1>feelings about PlayStation and their live service efforts?
<v Speaker 3>Grub this still feels very delulu Yes.
<v Speaker 4>Where.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, on the spreadsheet and you look at a specific column,
<v Speaker 3>it is undeniable the amount of profit that is coming
<v Speaker 3>from live service games. But as you mentioned, Concord cost
<v Speaker 3>how much and now that's all these other projects.
<v Speaker 2>A million I guess around there, yeah, two.
<v Speaker 3>Hundred million, and all these other projects that may never
<v Speaker 3>ever see the light of day or we may never
<v Speaker 3>ever hear of that are getting canceled. Those cost money,
<v Speaker 3>Those cost time, those cost labor, and that has to
<v Speaker 3>tick away at the positive number on that spreadsheet as well.
<v Speaker 3>Like I I'm not a numbers guy, I'm not a
<v Speaker 3>money guy, but I have to assume that if you.
<v Speaker 4>Are earning X, but why is really bad?
<v Speaker 2>Uh?
<v Speaker 3>That takes away from X being in the green or
<v Speaker 3>the black or whatever. And I just none of this,
<v Speaker 3>None of this feels sustainable at all. It is one
<v Speaker 3>hundred percent like what you said, greb of they see
<v Speaker 3>this number and they want to work backwards from it,
<v Speaker 3>not thinking about any sustainable practices in terms of labor,
<v Speaker 3>in terms of even an audience perspective, like now, anytime
<v Speaker 3>a multiplayer game comes out of Sony or has Sony
<v Speaker 3>published attack to it, it's going to have that Concord
<v Speaker 3>stink on it. There's no way. Like and also with
<v Speaker 3>We're gonna get to Marathon in a second, but I
<v Speaker 3>can't help but think now with Marathon, is this going
<v Speaker 3>to be canceled in two three weeks just like Concord was?
<v Speaker 3>Or what is the next thing? What it feels possible, right,
<v Speaker 3>It feels very possible. Like nothing feels like a safe
<v Speaker 3>bet from Sony if it is like a multiplayer focused
<v Speaker 3>live service thing. Even I'm not super tuned into Destiny
<v Speaker 3>Too right now, but I feel like Destiny two has
<v Speaker 3>had its major ups and downs from like being on
<v Speaker 3>the outside of that audience. It feels like the downs
<v Speaker 3>have kind of been like lower and lower lately versus
<v Speaker 3>up yep, yeah, yeah.
<v Speaker 1>And it's, uh, I think that that's all relative because
<v Speaker 1>it's like it seems like that Destiny two needed to
<v Speaker 1>kind of keep going way up even as they were
<v Speaker 1>changing the way that they were doing updates, and it's
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of just like it's doing all right. I
<v Speaker 1>think people like Destiny Too still for sure. But you know,
<v Speaker 1>the Destiny Too freaks that were in my life high
<v Speaker 1>Christian they're not like talking about Destiny to the way
<v Speaker 1>they ever once were, for sure. You know, we mentioned
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of stuff there, didn't even mention. Fair Games
<v Speaker 1>was another one that got delayed, right and Jade Raymond
<v Speaker 1>left and there's problems across the board now, you know,
<v Speaker 1>the second half of that headline was they pledged to
<v Speaker 1>carry on and learn from their mistakes. They are saying
<v Speaker 1>they're going to keep doing this and that they want
<v Speaker 1>to learn from all these mishaps. I just, Jane, I
<v Speaker 1>think the issue with that is that we no one
<v Speaker 1>ever fucking learns from these things, right, at least not
<v Speaker 1>until they go through it themselves, and we're like, well,
<v Speaker 1>this is all Sony, right, So they are going through
<v Speaker 1>it themselves, not like that the specific team, the specific
<v Speaker 1>people on these teams have to go through the experience.
<v Speaker 1>This is just me speculating, but it feels this way
<v Speaker 1>because we've seen it repeated over and over again that
<v Speaker 1>the specific people making these games have to go through
<v Speaker 1>the experience of making a live service game to like
<v Speaker 1>learn what it requires from them. And even when you
<v Speaker 1>do that, you have a studio like Bungee. That's like
<v Speaker 1>they did it with Destiny one, and then Destiny two
<v Speaker 1>came out and they had some of the same problems,
<v Speaker 1>a lot of new problems they couldn't predict, and they've
<v Speaker 1>been working on working those out for years and years
<v Speaker 1>and years and finding new ones all the time. So
<v Speaker 1>just live service just seems like such a hurting of cats,
<v Speaker 1>Like because you have this this subscriber base or this
<v Speaker 1>player base that is just coming in and spending money regularly,
<v Speaker 1>and they have a relationship with the game, and you
<v Speaker 1>have to sort of like figure out how to contain
<v Speaker 1>those emotions and funnel funnel them towards spending money on
<v Speaker 1>your game. And that's so complicated that you can't help
<v Speaker 1>but make mistakes every single time. So learn from the
<v Speaker 1>ones you've made, for sure, But that I don't think
<v Speaker 1>that they're gonna suddenly start making fewer of them.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, grub.
<v Speaker 3>And also like these mistakes, they're not gonna hurt these
<v Speaker 3>sea level people. It's going to hurt everyone lower on
<v Speaker 3>the ladder, unfortunately, and we've already seen that happen. One
<v Speaker 3>of the peculiar things in this interview is is that
<v Speaker 3>Lin Tao mentions that Grand Tarrismo is a live service
<v Speaker 3>game and an MLB the show is a live service game,
<v Speaker 3>when I don't.
<v Speaker 2>So the show. The show is going to have that
<v Speaker 2>ultimate team stuff, right.
<v Speaker 1>The ultimate team stuff is e every sports game, and
<v Speaker 1>the show has a big one of those, and it's
<v Speaker 1>like the baseball game. So I think it does pretty
<v Speaker 1>well Grand Trismo. I bet they saw a lot of skins.
<v Speaker 2>I guess.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know I have not paid attention to that,
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, sure, all right. Sticking with the Sony cfo's comments,
<v Speaker 1>the Sony CFO promises Marathon will launch this fiscal year.
<v Speaker 2>This from Ben Lyons at Game Reactor.
<v Speaker 1>Bungie has had a rough go of it with Marathon,
<v Speaker 1>as the live project was expected to arrive as soon
<v Speaker 1>as this September, but early fan and community impressions were
<v Speaker 1>particularly poor, leading the Destiny creator to delay the game
<v Speaker 1>indefinitely the time being. It has been a couple of
<v Speaker 1>months since the delay announcement came about an update that
<v Speaker 1>even surprised the devs, and while there has been no
<v Speaker 1>firm information about what we can or when we can
<v Speaker 1>expect Marathon, Sony's chief financial officer has commented on the
<v Speaker 1>game in a Q and A call following the unveiling
<v Speaker 1>of the recent financial report, which affirmed that eighty million
<v Speaker 1>piece fives have been sold. After translation via interpreter, CFO
<v Speaker 1>Lynn Tao touched on Marathon by promising that the game
<v Speaker 1>will launch in this fiscal year, meaning we can expect
<v Speaker 1>to be playing the title before the end of March
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty six. So okay, I mean the thing felt
<v Speaker 1>like it got delayed, or maybe they explicitly said it
<v Speaker 1>but felt like it got delayed because.
<v Speaker 2>Those reactions were so poor. It just wasn't It was kind.
<v Speaker 1>Of creating at best, like even buzz, kind of negative
<v Speaker 1>buzz in a lot of ways coming out of those
<v Speaker 1>those play tests, and the idea would be like, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>they got to rework a lot of this. I mean, boo,
<v Speaker 1>They're not gonna be able to rework anything in that
<v Speaker 1>amount of time.
<v Speaker 2>It's just going to be some polish here or there.
<v Speaker 1>What are your what are your hopes and dreams for
<v Speaker 1>the possibilities of Marathon being a success?
<v Speaker 3>Ah grab. I just I feel bad for the folks
<v Speaker 3>working on Marathon, just because it seems like they're stepping
<v Speaker 3>on rakes that other people threw out into the yard
<v Speaker 3>left and right. On top of all of the woes
<v Speaker 3>of it being poorly received in terms of like playing
<v Speaker 3>the game, there's also all the AI art theft happening
<v Speaker 3>or just general art plagiarizing happening surrounding Marathon as well.
<v Speaker 3>So if Marathon wasn't already facing an uphill battle after
<v Speaker 3>the launch and failure of Concord, now they're just climbing
<v Speaker 3>up a greasy ladder at this point. Yeah, and I
<v Speaker 3>want to see them pull it off. I just don't
<v Speaker 3>think I I had any real interest in playing the game,
<v Speaker 3>just because I don't feel the need or the draw
<v Speaker 3>to play an extraction shooter. This definitely would have been
<v Speaker 3>a game that we'd play on a stream and I think, Wow,
<v Speaker 3>that was really fun.
<v Speaker 4>It looked really cool. Never gonna touch this again.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, yeah, I you know this is an extraction shooter.
<v Speaker 1>There are other options out there, more established ones that
<v Speaker 1>I know will stick around, and and I think, you
<v Speaker 1>know again, we're we're talking about having relationships with these games.
<v Speaker 1>You kind of want to like, Okay, I'm going to
<v Speaker 1>begin investing my time probably money, you know, and maybe
<v Speaker 1>try to invest my friends times time into these games.
<v Speaker 1>I might start convincing them to want to play with me.
<v Speaker 1>Am I gonna want to do that for a game
<v Speaker 1>that I'm not certain is going to be a going
<v Speaker 1>concern for an extended period of time.
<v Speaker 2>Probably not.
<v Speaker 1>So It's like these games start to get into these
<v Speaker 1>death spirals where the taint and the stank gets on
<v Speaker 1>them and you can't scrub them off, and really that
<v Speaker 1>just helps it grow faster and faster.
<v Speaker 2>Can Marathon overcome that?
<v Speaker 1>Sure, if it comes out and it's just ball are awesome,
<v Speaker 1>fun to play, it stands it stands up Puncher's chance, right,
<v Speaker 1>it could come out and just knock us out and
<v Speaker 1>that's it, and the game is a Game of the
<v Speaker 1>Year contender and all this stuff. It just doesn't feel
<v Speaker 1>like we're anywhere close to that right now.
<v Speaker 4>No, not at all.
<v Speaker 3>And I see folks in the chat talking about how
<v Speaker 3>Halo Infinite was able to pull it off after getting delayed,
<v Speaker 3>and that delay being massive. But I think where Halo
<v Speaker 3>Infinite and Marathon are different is that Halo is like
<v Speaker 3>a household name versus Marathon. And sure Marathon is like
<v Speaker 3>an older game and older than Halo, But how many
<v Speaker 3>people are have been clamoring for another Marathon versus have
<v Speaker 3>the familiarity of exploring or checking out another Halo title.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's.
<v Speaker 1>Well again, we'll see, Well, you know, this game coming
<v Speaker 1>out before the end of March. They're going to have
<v Speaker 1>to re enter do sit here in the next several
<v Speaker 1>months and try to change the story, so they also
<v Speaker 1>have to figure that out.
<v Speaker 2>I just don't look forward.
<v Speaker 1>I don't envy them the position that they're in and
<v Speaker 1>having to figure that all out.
<v Speaker 3>I also, you know, we will say that folks that
<v Speaker 3>check out extraction shooters are a very niche audience, but
<v Speaker 3>that niche audience still is very big, but they tend
<v Speaker 3>to find the game that works and stick with that
<v Speaker 3>versus Yeah, and for whatever reason, most of those extraction
<v Speaker 3>shooters aren't the triple A kind. They are like the
<v Speaker 3>Double A or like completely India out of left field,
<v Speaker 3>or games that have been around for like ten.
<v Speaker 1>Years, yep, exactly. And it's you know, it feels like
<v Speaker 1>that space solidified very fast. You know, there's there's a
<v Speaker 1>spectrum of the way that these genres solidify, where like
<v Speaker 1>auto chests, you were in the heart of that, I
<v Speaker 1>think a little bit. And it was and that was
<v Speaker 1>like a gold rush that was never a real gold rush.
<v Speaker 1>There was three that got made very fast, and then
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of others from a bunch of other studios.
<v Speaker 1>Those three kind of battled it out and then at
<v Speaker 1>the end it seemed like team fight tactics ended up
<v Speaker 1>taking the crown there. Yeah, And now that that gold
<v Speaker 1>rush was over in a blink of an eye. And
<v Speaker 1>then there's you know MMOs where it's like, oh, you know,
<v Speaker 1>people are gonna keep trying it and slowly realize it's
<v Speaker 1>just going to be a World of Warcraft, Final Fantasy
<v Speaker 1>fourteen a handful of others. It does feel like for
<v Speaker 1>Extraction Shooters it's somewhere in between those two where you
<v Speaker 1>could try to chase a trend, maybe you could make
<v Speaker 1>some money doing this, but the reality is it feels
<v Speaker 1>like the choices have already been made. Yeah, and it's
<v Speaker 1>not gonna be like batter or. I don't think it's
<v Speaker 1>gonna be like Battle Royale, where it's like we think
<v Speaker 1>this is done and then Apex Legends comes along and
<v Speaker 1>it was able to get fifty million players in.
<v Speaker 2>A couple of weeks.
<v Speaker 1>It's like that was a very different time, very different thing. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>and I don't expect that to be repeated by Extraction Shooters.
<v Speaker 3>It's also so hard grub for these bigger publishers and
<v Speaker 3>bigger developers to be as agile as like a one
<v Speaker 3>to twenty person team like it is. It was wild
<v Speaker 3>to see Slay the Spire blow up, and then to
<v Speaker 3>see so many Slay the Spire clones come out, and
<v Speaker 3>then we're seeing the same exact thing happening with Blatro
<v Speaker 3>right now. I was playing like a demo for a
<v Speaker 3>Dice game last night, where like the background was that
<v Speaker 3>same like wobbly Warbly use background as Blatro, but now
<v Speaker 3>with Dice, and you know what. I was all in
<v Speaker 3>on it, of course, but it is easier for those
<v Speaker 3>smaller teams to take that idea and spin it into
<v Speaker 3>something else versus a gigantic behemoth or unless you're not,
<v Speaker 3>unless you're Fortnite, Fortnite could pull it off whatever.
<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, Fortnite is gonna have Bilottro here pretty soon.
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure. Yeah, you're right that they're like, because that's
<v Speaker 2>just old school game development.
<v Speaker 1>That's just you know, ladies and gentlemen in their garages
<v Speaker 1>making making a game because they were inspired by another game,
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, can I do this? Can I make
<v Speaker 1>can I try to? You know, take these ideas. I
<v Speaker 1>just want to play around with these ideas. I'm so inspired,
<v Speaker 1>And then they end up making something that builds off
<v Speaker 1>of that. Slightly different, but clearly you could see the
<v Speaker 1>inspiration and we all just go like, Yeah, that's that's
<v Speaker 1>Doom Clones, that's Maze games based off pac Man, that's
<v Speaker 1>Pong games going back to that, and then going all
<v Speaker 1>the way back to a Space War and Computer Space
<v Speaker 1>and all those games.
<v Speaker 2>The very beginning.
<v Speaker 1>It's you know, when we start talking about two hundred
<v Speaker 1>million dollar games chasing trends, it's like, oh no, that's
<v Speaker 1>that's too much money to put into something that is
<v Speaker 1>going to be following someone else. They already have all
<v Speaker 1>that money. If you want to do this for two
<v Speaker 1>million dollars, maybe you can make that work. I don't
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know if that's possible. All right, let's
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<v Speaker 2>Jeff Grubb, Janetchoa, there was.
<v Speaker 1>A Nintendo Indie World showcase this morning at six am
<v Speaker 1>your time. I'm sure you were up and I just
<v Speaker 1>didn't let you in the room.
<v Speaker 2>To do it with us. Jan I was like, now,
<v Speaker 2>go back to bed.
<v Speaker 1>This is for Michael krip at Ign who has a
<v Speaker 1>roundup of the announcements.
<v Speaker 2>Yea, let's hit him. There was eighteen of them.
<v Speaker 1>Mina the Hollower on Earth's new Switch and Switch To demo.
<v Speaker 1>The demo is out today for Switch To and Switch
<v Speaker 1>one game, as we know, was coming October thirty first,
<v Speaker 1>that includes the Nintendo Switch versions. Well Dweller, Well Dweller,
<v Speaker 1>Whaler Well Twey reveals crypt Custodian, a dev's next adventure.
<v Speaker 1>You'll fire a slingshot, jump through hordes of bees, and
<v Speaker 1>battle a giant, nightmarish creature in Well Dweller, the next
<v Speaker 1>game from Custodian developer Kyle Thompson.
<v Speaker 2>It's out in twenty twenty six.
<v Speaker 1>Never Way is a gorgeous pixel art kind of life
<v Speaker 1>sim farming game that's also out in twenty twenty six.
<v Speaker 2>That's one that really got Mike.
<v Speaker 1>You really liked the way that looked Hurdling, which I'm
<v Speaker 1>qualifying as a farming game even though it's a herding game.
<v Speaker 2>You are.
<v Speaker 1>It's coming out August twenty first, and you play as
<v Speaker 1>a person with a staff and you got to herd
<v Speaker 1>some mystical beasts across the land and I was like,
<v Speaker 1>oh something, this is doing something to my primal urges.
<v Speaker 1>I want to go herd some shit. Is this Seat
<v Speaker 1>Taken is coming to Switch as well?
<v Speaker 2>This is one.
<v Speaker 1>This is one of the game you talked about on
<v Speaker 1>the BombCast this week, right, Jan Is this Seat Taken?
<v Speaker 4>No?
<v Speaker 1>Was this not you? Someone brought this up and Mike
<v Speaker 1>mentioned it was you. I'm like, I heard about it
<v Speaker 1>somewhere and I can't remember where.
<v Speaker 4>The guys are just attributing all sorts of games to me.
<v Speaker 1>Now, yeah, well with most games that I don't understand
<v Speaker 1>are jam games. Now the trailer reveals Wholesome Puzzler is
<v Speaker 1>out on Nintendo Switch today, so you can get is
<v Speaker 1>the Seat Taken today? It's that game where you're telling
<v Speaker 1>ship shapes where they could sit on a bus, which
<v Speaker 1>isn't I don't think is problematic. That's little kiddie. Big
<v Speaker 1>Cities City is getting even bigger. There's gonna be an
<v Speaker 1>update later this year. I actually forgot it was later
<v Speaker 1>this year and told my kids it's out now, so
<v Speaker 1>they were trying to play it, like where is it dead?
<v Speaker 1>Where's I going to customize my cat? Which is one
<v Speaker 1>of the things you could do in this update.
<v Speaker 2>It's not out yet. Kids are gonna have to wait
<v Speaker 2>till later this year.
<v Speaker 1>Let's see Content Warning is coming to Switch and Switch
<v Speaker 1>to Landfall Games, viral co op centered horror game. Content
<v Speaker 1>Warning will finally make the jump to console when it
<v Speaker 1>comes to Nintendo Switch and Switch to Sometimes twenty twenty six,
<v Speaker 1>A first look trailer was shown during the Nintendo Indie
<v Speaker 1>World Showcase, and Mike made the really good point of
<v Speaker 1>you know, content Warning is the one with the circles
<v Speaker 1>for faces, and you sort of put a emotes or
<v Speaker 1>emoticons on there to make your face.
<v Speaker 2>What if you just replaced that with the game chat
<v Speaker 2>camera and.
<v Speaker 1>We can see our faces on those things at I mean,
<v Speaker 1>I listen, I don't know if I'm going to play
<v Speaker 1>content warning on the switch.
<v Speaker 2>If they did that, I'm playing content warning on the switch.
<v Speaker 2>That sounds awesome.
<v Speaker 1>I hope they're able to do that, but they did
<v Speaker 1>not show off anything along that Along those lines, Ballpit
<v Speaker 1>is a brick breaking game for the Switch and Switch To.
<v Speaker 1>It's from Devolver Digital and Kenny Sun and Friends. It's
<v Speaker 1>a survival roguelike is the underlying genre there. That's out
<v Speaker 1>October fifteenth, with a switch To version set to come
<v Speaker 1>out this fall.
<v Speaker 2>Oh Ultimate Sheep, Oh yeah, go ahead. Oh no.
<v Speaker 3>I just remember seeing this and being very hyped about it.
<v Speaker 2>It looks really cool, so does Ultimate Sheep Raccoon, which
<v Speaker 2>do you know what that is? Jans that sound familiar.
<v Speaker 3>The combination of words feels like something I'd be into.
<v Speaker 3>Oh wait a minute, it's a chicken Horse.
<v Speaker 2>It's a follow up to Ultimate Chicken Horse.
<v Speaker 1>The athlete named Ultimate Sheep Raccoon is coming to Switch
<v Speaker 1>and Switch To this holiday. It's a blink and You'll
<v Speaker 1>It has a blink and You'll miss it trailer, but
<v Speaker 1>basically it just showed it off. Instead of just being
<v Speaker 1>a running platform, you're on bikes. It's a Trials, Trials,
<v Speaker 1>but Ultimate Chicken Horse.
<v Speaker 2>I'm so excited. It looks so good.
<v Speaker 4>Oh, I'm so ingrub Yeah, we're.
<v Speaker 1>Going to play a ton of this, and honestly we
<v Speaker 1>should go play some more Ultimate Chicken Horse to get
<v Speaker 1>ready for it. But yeah, they're saying holiday twenty twenty five.
<v Speaker 1>I think they might have said winter twenty twenty five,
<v Speaker 1>but twenty twenty five, so later this year. A couple
<v Speaker 1>board things Glaciered was a It said it's an it's
<v Speaker 1>an action RPG where you play as a bird species
<v Speaker 1>that has evolved to go back into the water and
<v Speaker 1>swimming under this glacier. And it's also you know RPG,
<v Speaker 1>so you're upgrading your character and as you do, you're
<v Speaker 1>doing your attacks. Numbers are popping off. It looked really interesting.
<v Speaker 1>They also said it's like JRPG inspired in some ways,
<v Speaker 1>although we didn't quite see that either way. I thought
<v Speaker 1>the game looked very interesting. It feels like one of
<v Speaker 1>those ones that was trying to get out in the
<v Speaker 1>first year of the switch to to get on to
<v Speaker 1>glom onto the excitement, and I think it might be
<v Speaker 1>able to do that. I'm looking forward to it. They
<v Speaker 1>finished the Indie World with a sizzle reel of a
<v Speaker 1>bunch of other games. Noodle Cake and Pine Creek Games
<v Speaker 1>have a Winter twenty twenty five game called Winter Burrow
<v Speaker 1>Undusted Letters from the Past. It's from ToJ Productions and
<v Speaker 1>Five Minute Labs. It's coming in October. Tiny Bookshop which
<v Speaker 1>looked like a puzzle game where you get boxes of
<v Speaker 1>books and then you have to like place them on
<v Speaker 1>the shelf in a correct way to maximize your bookstore value.
<v Speaker 2>Didn't quite understand it.
<v Speaker 1>But it looked it looked good. I'm like, I want
<v Speaker 1>to figure this game now. Caves of Cud is coming
<v Speaker 1>to Switch this winter. That's from kit Fox Games in
<v Speaker 1>Freehold Games. Strange Antiquities is from Iceberg Interactive and Bad Viking.
<v Speaker 1>It's coming out September seventeenth. Pre Orders are available now.
<v Speaker 1>Opus prison Break is coming in the fall. Go Go Town,
<v Speaker 1>which just looked like straight up animal crossing with more farming.
<v Speaker 1>That is from Cult Games. In Prideful Sloth is coming
<v Speaker 1>in the spring, and then UFO fifty is out later
<v Speaker 1>today on the Switches.
<v Speaker 2>Whoah, Yeah, so it's happening.
<v Speaker 1>And that felt like, you know, we had a couple
<v Speaker 1>that we were like UFO fifty, Haities two maybe, and
<v Speaker 1>then of course Holow Night's Silk Song, those last two
<v Speaker 1>which we you know, we were going back and forth.
<v Speaker 2>It's like they probably won't be there, but they could.
<v Speaker 2>Well they weren't.
<v Speaker 1>UFO fifty however was there and it's out now basically
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, so okay, people are saying, yes, it is
<v Speaker 1>already out, so there you can go and go out
<v Speaker 1>and get it. Jennet was a decent Indie World showcase.
<v Speaker 1>Some games that I'm ready to go play as soon
<v Speaker 1>as they're available for sure.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, any other like highlights for you personally, Grub.
<v Speaker 1>I think for me it was like Hurdling was one
<v Speaker 1>that definitely stuck stuck out. I'm like, I just like
<v Speaker 1>the idea of these mystical like beast They kind of
<v Speaker 1>look like wooly mammoths a little bit, but with the
<v Speaker 1>weird legs. I just like the idea of being a
<v Speaker 1>character that has to kind of maneuver yourself around to
<v Speaker 1>make sure these other creatures on the screen move in
<v Speaker 1>a certain way, Like oh that kind of has that
<v Speaker 1>it's like human fung shway, Like I want to, you know,
<v Speaker 1>make my energy move in a certain direction to get
<v Speaker 1>ther energy to move in a certain direction. Yes, it's
<v Speaker 1>Tamber and then Little Kittie Big City Update.
<v Speaker 2>I want to go back to that. We I always
<v Speaker 2>enjoy playing that with the kids.
<v Speaker 3>There's a there's like a couple of indie titles that
<v Speaker 3>I wish I personally got an update on that. I'm
<v Speaker 3>surprised didn't make it onto the Indie World Showcase. Oh
<v Speaker 3>but hey, okay, yeah, and.
<v Speaker 1>Then of course Ultimate Sheep Raccoon. We will play the
<v Speaker 1>hell out of that one that's available.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's move along here.
<v Speaker 1>Red Octan Games is a new rhythm game developer working
<v Speaker 1>on something that isn't Guitar Hero, but sure sounds like it.
<v Speaker 1>This is from Ben Lyons at Game Reactor. The rhythm
<v Speaker 1>game scene has been quiet for years, largely as players
<v Speaker 1>have shifted away from owning and using physical peripherals that
<v Speaker 1>take these titles to the next level. It has been
<v Speaker 1>years since a Guitar Hero or rock band arrived, and
<v Speaker 1>we're desperate for more, which is what makes the founding
<v Speaker 1>of Red Octan Games all the more exciting. This is
<v Speaker 1>a developer that is made up of excuse me, of
<v Speaker 1>several rhythm game veterans from the Guitar Hero franchise. The
<v Speaker 1>studio is being headed up a former Never Soft production director,
<v Speaker 1>Simon Ebager, while it's supported by Charles and Kai Huang,
<v Speaker 1>two of the original Guitar Hero founders. Otherwise, we can
<v Speaker 1>expect a melting pot of developers that include exceptional new
<v Speaker 1>generation developers, creators, and community leaders from the global rhythm
<v Speaker 1>gaming scene, all while the studio takes a community built
<v Speaker 1>a development approach as well. In terms of the game
<v Speaker 1>that Red Octane is making, they don't have anything to
<v Speaker 1>say yet. In an accompanying blog post, they said this
<v Speaker 1>game won't be Guitar Hero, DJ Hero, Guitar Freaks, or
<v Speaker 1>rock Band. This is something new, a rhythm game built
<v Speaker 1>with love by people who care, with the community at
<v Speaker 1>its core.
<v Speaker 2>In this fast changing modern world we all live in.
<v Speaker 1>We firmly believe that the expert here is the community
<v Speaker 1>and a new generation of development talent, the folks that
<v Speaker 1>have kept the lights on these last few years. So
<v Speaker 1>cool to hear that these people are back at it
<v Speaker 1>and focus on rhythm games.
<v Speaker 2>What would you what do you want from this right now?
<v Speaker 1>Because I'm like it has been a minute, So if
<v Speaker 1>they just want to say it's not guitar Hero.
<v Speaker 2>But it's guitar Hero. I would probably be interested in that.
<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to think, Grub, We're what what kind of
<v Speaker 3>rhythm game do do we get into if we are
<v Speaker 3>not getting a big honkin chunk of plastic just because
<v Speaker 3>of you know, production costs of that and and space
<v Speaker 3>issues with that.
<v Speaker 4>But maybe people.
<v Speaker 3>Want that again, maybe maybe people are totally into that.
<v Speaker 3>I was jokingly thinking of moroccas just because like moroccas
<v Speaker 3>are fun and small, but I know I wouldn't mind
<v Speaker 3>like like a drum pad and just like mashing away
<v Speaker 3>at one of those.
<v Speaker 4>That'd be cool.
<v Speaker 3>I think we need more rhythm games, Grub, and I
<v Speaker 3>do enjoy that it is not just you know, seasoned
<v Speaker 3>veterans of the genre, but also they're they're bringing in
<v Speaker 3>newer talent because rhythm games are still around, they're just
<v Speaker 3>mostly in the arcade scene these days.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, at awesome games done quick, Like we
<v Speaker 1>went to the arcade and played a bunch of those
<v Speaker 1>rhythm games that I've had only seen in like Instagram
<v Speaker 1>reels or whatever and TikTok and being able to go
<v Speaker 1>in there and try that stuff. Out' say, oh yeah,
<v Speaker 1>this stuff rules. The big you know, spinny thing where
<v Speaker 1>you can move your hands around.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the washing machine looking one, yeah.
<v Speaker 2>The washing machine one.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was great. It's like, yeah, if they could
<v Speaker 1>take ideas like that. I do think there maybe should
<v Speaker 1>be bespoke controllers though, moroccos, whatever, sambas as I sometimes
<v Speaker 1>call them, just give us something along those lines, because
<v Speaker 1>I think that's one of the things about rhythm is
<v Speaker 1>you want to feel like you can do something with
<v Speaker 1>your body, and creating a bespoke controller for that helps
<v Speaker 1>facilitate those feelings. But I guess they don't necessarily have
<v Speaker 1>to do that. I would like I would like just
<v Speaker 1>a new DDR game with a new pad or.
<v Speaker 4>Something like that.
<v Speaker 2>That would be cool as well. But we'll see. They're
<v Speaker 2>they're trying.
<v Speaker 1>They're trying to get us the idea that they are
<v Speaker 1>going to have new ideas because they have these younger
<v Speaker 1>developers in the letting the community drive the way. So
<v Speaker 1>maybe it'll be something we can't even predict, and I
<v Speaker 1>will welcome that. It's just cool to hear that they're
<v Speaker 1>getting back to the rhythm games.
<v Speaker 3>Give me Guitar Hero for the DS somehow, again.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, bring that back ye solo controller for our phones. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I never actually played that. I should, I should say,
<v Speaker 1>if I could track that down all right. Battlefield six
<v Speaker 1>Open Beta is off to a very hot start amidst
<v Speaker 1>some server hiccups.
<v Speaker 2>This is from Eddie McCoo at game Spot.
<v Speaker 1>Battlefield six Open Beta went live today and it's putting
<v Speaker 1>up big numbers in its early access stage before the
<v Speaker 1>beta becomes more widely available this weekend and next. On
<v Speaker 1>Steam alone, the Battlefield six Open Beta reached more than
<v Speaker 1>three hundred and fourteen thousand peak concurrent players. The open
<v Speaker 1>beta is also available on PS five and Xbox Series
<v Speaker 1>X and S, along with the EA app for PC,
<v Speaker 1>so the Steam numbers reflect just a portion of the
<v Speaker 1>beta's total audience. Given the huge amount of people trying
<v Speaker 1>to play PlayStation or the Battlefield six is open beta,
<v Speaker 1>the servers are struggling somewhat. Some players have reported matchmaking issues,
<v Speaker 1>and the developers say players can restart the game client
<v Speaker 1>to help improve things. Battlefield six's open beta is using
<v Speaker 1>server cues to help mitigate demand, with Battlefield Studios announcing
<v Speaker 1>it is working on a substantial increase in server capacity
<v Speaker 1>to help meet the demand.
<v Speaker 2>Open beta is our biggest validation yet.
<v Speaker 1>We want to see at grand scale how this holds
<v Speaker 1>up well, then assess the outcome and hear the feedback
<v Speaker 1>and iterate as we always do and we have have
<v Speaker 1>always been doing. Producer David Serlin said. Players have also
<v Speaker 1>reported weapon balancing issues, with many saying shotguns are too
<v Speaker 1>powerful powerful right now. But that's just a bunch of
<v Speaker 1>people whining. We'll see what actually happens with that game.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, early demand is there, for sure.
<v Speaker 1>It does seem like that, you know, that weekend where
<v Speaker 1>they're like, here's the details about Battlefield six, here's a
<v Speaker 1>bunch of people playing it. Did the trick and did
<v Speaker 1>get a lot of people excited. I want to play there.
<v Speaker 1>I want to get in there and check it out
<v Speaker 1>myself and see what's what all the hypes about this
<v Speaker 1>is just nothing but good news though, right, yeah, great.
<v Speaker 4>News, grub you know.
<v Speaker 3>Unfortunately Battlefield in the last couple of years has not
<v Speaker 3>been the most positive in any regard, whether it's single
<v Speaker 3>player or multiplayer or lack thereof of single player. But hey,
<v Speaker 3>great that they were getting this validation with the audience.
<v Speaker 3>I just hope that audience lightens up if Battlefield six
<v Speaker 3>has to introduce miscellaneous ip as skins and that they're
<v Speaker 3>okay if it's not just.
<v Speaker 4>Generic John Thurgood Marshall.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're a good marshal on the battlefield.
<v Speaker 2>Everybody watch out. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I think that even if they try to like keep
<v Speaker 1>it grounded, they are still gonna want to bring in
<v Speaker 1>and we're talking about the skin packs where they promised
<v Speaker 1>they would keep things grounded. Even if they do that,
<v Speaker 1>I think they're still gonna want to use IP so,
<v Speaker 1>like military ip probably will pop up in there. Arnold
<v Speaker 1>Schwarzenegger out in the jungle hunting down the predator.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, he could show up.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't Yeah, it doesn't sound like the fans
<v Speaker 1>are or that.
<v Speaker 4>Would they be okay with? I don't know, Uh, Colombo.
<v Speaker 1>Everyone's okay with Colombo. Colombo could show up and they
<v Speaker 1>would they would be excited about that.
<v Speaker 4>Dice.
<v Speaker 3>If you put a monk skin, a Tony Shaloub monk
<v Speaker 3>skin and Battlefield six, I will think about getting the game.
<v Speaker 1>Put a Pikachu in there. I want to see Pikachu
<v Speaker 1>with a with a machine gun.
<v Speaker 4>That'd be great.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like I said, nothing but good news so far,
<v Speaker 1>for the game, and honestly, you know, having this many
<v Speaker 1>players and the servers being like, okay, we can't quite
<v Speaker 1>keep up with this. There was a time when Battlefield
<v Speaker 1>had like some of the worst online problems of any
<v Speaker 1>game ever. I think it was Battlefield four. We don't
<v Speaker 1>like talk about this ever anymore, but Battlefield four, for
<v Speaker 1>like a year straight was just unplayable online for a
<v Speaker 1>lot of people. I covered that non stop, like writing
<v Speaker 1>about it, and it took them forever to fix it.
<v Speaker 1>So it's like the fact that they're not anywhere near
<v Speaker 1>something like that. Obviously they've learned from those issues. It's like, okay, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it just sounds like everything is working in Battlefield six
<v Speaker 1>is favor. We'll see how this turns out. Okay, let's
<v Speaker 1>see here. We got, yeah, a couple more stories here.
<v Speaker 1>Bikinis are good business for street fighters. This is from
<v Speaker 1>Chris Melchin. It's dual shockers.
<v Speaker 4>Probably.
<v Speaker 3>All I'm hearing is that we have to now make
<v Speaker 3>a calendar calendar for GB.
<v Speaker 2>And this is how the GB bikini calendar.
<v Speaker 3>We The business doesn't need to be saved right now
<v Speaker 3>at least, but this is how we save the business.
<v Speaker 1>Secott and the Bikini Pack launched at the same time,
<v Speaker 1>and the current player count concurrent player count on Steam
<v Speaker 1>almost doubled into twenty four hour period basically. And I'm
<v Speaker 1>sure Scott helped, but I bet the tan Lines on
<v Speaker 1>CAMMI helped even more. Yeah, that was People were very
<v Speaker 1>excited for this again. Good Business day Z passes one
<v Speaker 1>million players on PlayStation Plus day one.
<v Speaker 2>This from alex Co at Dual Shockers.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the game popped up on PlayStation Plus and they
<v Speaker 1>said one point three million people downloaded it and or
<v Speaker 1>activated it on their PlayStation Plus account in one day,
<v Speaker 1>and they said three hundred thousand people were already playing
<v Speaker 1>it on day one, like three hundred thousand new people
<v Speaker 1>from PlayStation So I really do want to check back
<v Speaker 1>in on Daisy. Have you ever played that?
<v Speaker 4>I want to say that I have.
<v Speaker 3>I think I've downloaded at one point because of morbid curiosity,
<v Speaker 3>but I've never been brave enough to check it out
<v Speaker 3>for an extended period of time. But I would check
<v Speaker 3>it out with us.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it'd be worth it for us to
<v Speaker 1>like do a couple of streams there and see what
<v Speaker 1>it's like. There's That's one of those games where emergent
<v Speaker 1>storytelling can just be so much fun and I want
<v Speaker 1>to see what antics we can get up to. Finally,
<v Speaker 1>the Roger Xbox ally we get we have the release
<v Speaker 1>date thanks to Bill bil Kuhn. As a reminder, Microsoft
<v Speaker 1>is under a BDS movement, potential boycott and do without
<v Speaker 1>what you will. They are are responsible for death allegedly
<v Speaker 1>in Gaza. They are contributed to that and making money
<v Speaker 1>from it, So do with that information what you will.
<v Speaker 1>We are still going to cover the news here or
<v Speaker 1>there when we can. A few days ago, we revealed
<v Speaker 1>the opening date for pre orders for the Roger Xbox
<v Speaker 1>ally handheld consoles. Sales will begin on Wednesday, August twentieth,
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five, on Yes See on the sidelines of
<v Speaker 1>Games Comp twenty twenty five, which will be held in Cologne, Germany.
<v Speaker 1>We also confirmed the price, which will be five hundred
<v Speaker 1>and ninety nine euro for the base model and eight.
<v Speaker 2>Ninety nine euro for the top of the line. Xbox
<v Speaker 2>Ally x SO.
<v Speaker 1>Sales will begin August twentieth, and the thing will be
<v Speaker 1>out in October, so let's see here. October sixteenth is
<v Speaker 1>the confirmed release date for the Xbox Roger Ally. You
<v Speaker 1>know this is going to be the probably their big
<v Speaker 1>thing that they do have at Gamescom. I'm going to
<v Speaker 1>be interested to see how they come out and tell
<v Speaker 1>the story of why this thing is going to be
<v Speaker 1>worth around it thousand US dollars.
<v Speaker 2>Oh boy, Grubb, Yeah, it's that's gonna be tough.
<v Speaker 1>I'm just not I'm just not interested in it really
<v Speaker 1>that really at any price, but especially at that price.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>I was entertaining the idea of a PlayStation portal last
<v Speaker 3>night for no real good reason, and then I remember
<v Speaker 3>how much they cost, and then I remember, and then
<v Speaker 3>I saw this new story and remembered it's the Xbox
<v Speaker 3>Roger Ally is gonna cost like a thousand plus.
<v Speaker 4>No, thank you, Grub, I'm sorry.
<v Speaker 2>I just saw it.
<v Speaker 1>I just saw the super chat from Tim Nicholas, one
<v Speaker 1>of our RS friends.
<v Speaker 2>Just give me a style. I got you on the calendar.
<v Speaker 4>Oh Tim, uh what was that? What is that? Grub?
<v Speaker 4>What was that video game magazine that had.
<v Speaker 1>Like Ultra Game Players Issue one eleven. I was just
<v Speaker 1>looking at this the other day. I did not realize
<v Speaker 1>that that was the last issue of Ultra Game Players.
<v Speaker 1>The last issue of Ultra Game Players is their bikini
<v Speaker 1>magazine issue where they had characters from not even like
<v Speaker 1>B level games, like C level games dressed up in bikinis.
<v Speaker 1>And then there was a few there was like Laura
<v Speaker 1>Croft and the girl from uh Pandemonium or whatever it
<v Speaker 1>was called. Yes, so let's let's do it in that style.
<v Speaker 3>Was there a KSM or was it game Fan that
<v Speaker 3>had like a swimsuit issue?
<v Speaker 1>No, Ultra game Players had the had a had a
<v Speaker 1>swim suit issue. Look it up Ultra game Players one eleven.
<v Speaker 1>Those other ones might have as well. PSM was also
<v Speaker 1>the same company, so I would be surprised if they
<v Speaker 1>had one as well. Yeah, people were saying PSM it
<v Speaker 1>was the same creative team for both magazines. But the
<v Speaker 1>girl from Daikitana I think it was the cover model
<v Speaker 1>for Ultra Game Players one eleven. There you go, so, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>that's the style we wanted in. Just go do me
<v Speaker 1>in the same pose that that she's in on the cover.
<v Speaker 4>Oh I I am one of PSM.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, okay, what?
<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, let me do I'm gonna google PSM bikini issue.
<v Speaker 2>Take a look there. Oh yeah, I remember this one.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, okay, Gods the two thousand and five swimsuits, special.
<v Speaker 2>Video games.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that does it for the headlines. We got a
<v Speaker 1>poll question that we got to get to.
<v Speaker 2>Let's do that right now.
<v Speaker 1>I have the results of poll questions right over here
<v Speaker 1>on this tab from yesterday. Do you want a new
<v Speaker 1>Super Mario Brothers collection on switch that's a capital N.
<v Speaker 1>Forty nine percent said yes, fifty one percent said no. Listen,
<v Speaker 1>these games get a lot of guff I think, you know,
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that's maybe lower than some other collections would be,
<v Speaker 1>but that's still a lot of people being like, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I want that those games would.
<v Speaker 2>Do just fine on the Switch if they put them
<v Speaker 2>into a collection.
<v Speaker 1>That's based on the rumor from yesterday that for Mario's
<v Speaker 1>fortieth anniversary Nintendo's going to gather up the new Super
<v Speaker 1>Mario Brothers games that are not already on the Switch
<v Speaker 1>and put them into a new collection, which I would welcome.
<v Speaker 2>That'd be fine. All right.
<v Speaker 1>We have a new pole question that we should just
<v Speaker 1>get to right now.
<v Speaker 2>Have you ever played day zis jan that now? I'm
<v Speaker 2>asking you yes or no? Tell us have you played? Daisy?
<v Speaker 2>Very curious about that.
<v Speaker 1>We'll get the results of that talk about it on
<v Speaker 1>Game mess Mornings here on Giant Bomb tomorrow to end
<v Speaker 1>out the week, like trying to keep the days.
<v Speaker 2>It is Thursday, tomorrows Friday.
<v Speaker 4>Shouldn't tomorrow be the Bomb twelve?
<v Speaker 2>So this is the way we do it. Yes, I've
<v Speaker 2>been like working this out.
<v Speaker 1>Jan We'll wrap up the poll question for Thursday on
<v Speaker 1>that show. We won't ask a new poll question, so
<v Speaker 1>there won't be a pole question to get to on Monday.
<v Speaker 1>And then the last thing we do on Games Mornings
<v Speaker 1>on Friday is the Bomb twelve.
<v Speaker 2>So that's the way this is gonna work.
<v Speaker 1>Poppy, all right, Yeah, I think that means we got
<v Speaker 1>to talk about what's happening on Giant Bomb. I'm gonna
<v Speaker 1>bring up the calendar jam. But let's wait, that's a
<v Speaker 1>different calendar. What else do we have happening? Oh, we
<v Speaker 1>got the voicemail dump truck not too long from now right.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, voicemail.
<v Speaker 3>A lot of moving around and shaking of the schedule
<v Speaker 3>this week, folks, boy smail dumb truck is popping off
<v Speaker 3>in thirty minutes.
<v Speaker 4>Oh, I gotta go collect calls.
<v Speaker 3>But also later today we are hopefully wrapping up Pip
<v Speaker 3>my record.
<v Speaker 2>We definitely are. Yeah, he's got to stop, although maybe
<v Speaker 2>he shouldn't extend. My game is up next.
<v Speaker 1>Apparently Steff saw the costume and she told me that
<v Speaker 1>I should have saw it because apparently I brought it
<v Speaker 1>into the house and it wasn't in a box. But
<v Speaker 1>I just like, she gets a lot of packages, you
<v Speaker 1>like a lot of things delivered. She gets some deals
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. Often she gets gifts for the
<v Speaker 1>kids that we're gonna give them a Christmas and we
<v Speaker 1>hold on to them because she finds a good deal
<v Speaker 1>on them and we kind of just set them aside.
<v Speaker 2>She saves a lot of money. It's great.
<v Speaker 1>So I don't even pay attention now to the stuff
<v Speaker 1>that's coming. I just bring them in, put them in
<v Speaker 1>a pile, and set them down. And she's like, you
<v Speaker 1>must have assumed it was something for me. I'm like,
<v Speaker 1>I don't even remember anything about any of the packages,
<v Speaker 1>so apparently I'm seeing it.
<v Speaker 2>She's laughing at it again.
<v Speaker 1>So and then Mike also pointed out that I'm not
<v Speaker 1>gonna look cool.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, damn got the look cool. Mike got the
<v Speaker 2>look cool. Have you seen the costume?
<v Speaker 3>I've seen what I think they're sending you. Grub I
<v Speaker 3>think it's impossible for you to not look cool.
<v Speaker 2>Okay.
<v Speaker 3>If anything, I'm looking forward to the Jerem upload or
<v Speaker 3>updating the lineup of everyone.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, yes, fair enough, all right, super chat here
<v Speaker 1>from a grant. Grant NP says, look at that first
<v Speaker 1>page of that Ultra Game Players one eleven. Uh, we'll
<v Speaker 1>do I'll do that on We'll do that on our
<v Speaker 1>own time. Everyone go do that right now. Go to
<v Speaker 1>Google Ultra Gameplayers one eleven. I think it's on archive
<v Speaker 1>dot org. If you can't find it on a on
<v Speaker 1>which you might call it on the Video Game History
<v Speaker 1>Foundation's archive.
<v Speaker 2>All right, Jim, we talked about the schedule.
<v Speaker 1>Tomorrow, we'll be back. We'll be back with UPF. We're
<v Speaker 1>gonna play Sunderfolk. I might try to play some Mafia
<v Speaker 1>as well. Before Sunderfolk. Maybe just play that for an
<v Speaker 1>hour or.
<v Speaker 3>So, maybe in my own time or on this web site.
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna go play the new season of Fortnight.
<v Speaker 2>It did it did like update today, right. Power Rangers
<v Speaker 2>are in there.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, if you want to play, if you want
<v Speaker 1>to get in there, you're gonna get the battle pass
<v Speaker 1>to make sure you can unlock all the power ranger stuff. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>you get put on your switch to play it in
<v Speaker 1>your your free time.
<v Speaker 2>We're on it that way.
<v Speaker 3>I don't like playing uh shooters that aren't Splatoon on
<v Speaker 3>a switch.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, fair enough. I don't try. They probably have the
<v Speaker 2>motion controls in there. Try that. Try Splatoon controls. All right,
<v Speaker 2>more happening on Giant Bottom.
<v Speaker 3>Sorry to ruin the outro, but someone had outed me
<v Speaker 3>on Blue Sky saying that the dragon dagger emote is
<v Speaker 3>indeed there.
<v Speaker 1>All right, well we gotta let Jan get to it
<v Speaker 1>right away. Everybody, so let's wrap the show up. We
<v Speaker 1>did the pull question, we did everything else. So Jan,
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say thank you so much for talking with me.
<v Speaker 2>About video games.
<v Speaker 1>Man.
<v Speaker 2>I really appreciate it.
<v Speaker 1>Thank you all for watching and listening. You are the
<v Speaker 1>best audience in gaming. Until next time, have a good one,
<v Speaker 1>take care of yourself, and goodbye.