Surprise Episode: Marc's QB Index Haikus

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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast. That's a great point, Mark Surprice. Welcome to the Around the NFL Podcast. I'm Greg Rosenthal alongside QB Index guru Mark Sessler, and yeah, this is a surprise drop. This is your favorite, uh musical artist just releasing an album like a mix tape on a Friday, and you're just happy to get the extra content. Hopefully. Mark, we hinted at it on our Tuesday show and now we are doing more than hinting at it, and we thought that we would just take a breeze through a trip through the QB Index where we stand. Of course, I'm uh doing this with the creator of the QB Index, so it's sort of like there's an interesting dynamic at there. Well, I do miss it. I have to admit I do miss watching the quarterbacks extra close and then ranking them. And that's why this week we thought it would be fun just get give a little extra episode would try something different, largely because Mark's concept for this week's article, which I implore everyone to check out at NFL dot com slash QB Index is amazing. You wrote high coups for all thirty two players. So we're gonna go through a good junk of them. We're gonna hear your high coups and um, and I'm also gonna maybe push around about these rankings and see see what I would expect you to. How how have you enjoyed it? We you're now six seven weeks in. It's a lot of work. The thing I love about it is we are already taking game notes and what, trying to watch everything for our Thursday preview show and just overall gaining ideas of who these teams are. And it marries right away on Monday writing it um with the project that's due essentially to say that's fair. Now hands this is looking for us. He was like Mark, Mark and Greg show that could be spicy. He wants us to have a confrontation. I think that Dan often um uh silently, not even maybe intentionally creates um the environment where you and I get into the conflict. I feel like we're pretty polite with each other, but we'll try to we'll try to. Yeah, we're pretty into it in this in format. I think you're ranking of two A Togo volo is terrible. Mark. Now uh, let's start near someone near the top. Um, Let's start with Justin Herbert I don't know why, just because I find him interesting. Right now you have him number five the top five right now, Josh Allen moved up to one. Patrick Mahomes is at too. I feel like those have to be the top two in some order. You could argue either way. You got Hurts in Lamar three and four. I don't have any argument there, although it's interesting that Lamar struggled the last few weeks and yet there's not anyone logical to pass them. And then Herbert here at five. Go for your high coup, my high coup for justin Herbert human tornado trapped inside hyper Milk Toast Bolts offensive scheme sit. I would point to Monday Night Football as a kind of case in point I, just because I so Herbert is I want to sit with that haiku a little more. There's a certain amount of syllables each time. Yes, it's gotta be um five seven five, And I would say, like the reading of the hikup is important too, so don't don't rush through it. Okay, That's all I'm saying, because that was great. Trapped inside hyper Milk Toast Bolts. I mean I was in the newsroom, like counting on my fingers one through five and then one through five and seven, and there are various like television executives looking at me like I would just done a bag of cocaine, so you know, after the pilocybin. It feels like, yeah, Joe Lombardi could use some psilocybin maybe to live in up this uh mind going yes, it's story, Vanilla, It's it's weird. It's almost like they've got this the stallion of a of a horse here, but they're just they're they're just uh, you know, letting kids ride them for birthday parties instead of taking them out into the field. I was trying to really know. I love what you said though, you and Grave Digger on the Monday Night recap that he's sort of a deodorant for the rest of that operation on some level. And it's like they're not using him even. I mean, they already had unlocked him in years prior, and it's like we're getting a lesser version of him now, a safer version. The whole offense doesn't seem to be uh equipped with any daring do I know, we hit Brady hard on the Tuesday show so we can keep it quick, But I just love the hiku so much that I want you to go, well, this highko has been asked to um this is a this is an Easter eggor because this high coo will not be appearing in print, but um it is two Seltzer's at the wedding of Robert Kraft and people freaking out. I I love that we're giving an exclusive hiku to our podcast listeners because you guys deserve it. Like too hot for NFL, I guess hot com. I hope that doesn't make you uncomfortable, but yeah, I just I have a hard time feeling that him him going out on and I had much to do with. So I think that's why I pointed to it, because it's I feel like everything around the Tom Brady experienced this season, because we can tell he's a little unsettled emotionally. I mean, he was just going off on his lineman in the Steeler's loss, and it's like, oh, what can we blame it on his personal life? The fact that he went to a wedding, which he's like, these guys do all sorts of things all the time. I mean, I just didn't find that to be a factor in his play. He's throwing the ball really well. I think it's gotten underrated. He had three or four great throws in that game. The problem is everything in between. Yeah, he's had a few more misses, I would say than normal, But I think it's more he's just getting rid of the ball quickly because he doesn't trust what's going to happen, and it makes them a little boring to watch two. But he's still got that arm. All of these KOs are so good, Mark that I actually feel like we're losing I'm losing something by not having all of them. Like I didn't even want to discuss Jaylon Nerds, but I just want you. I do want to hear that, yeah is so good. They built a statue for owls four months away from a jail in Carving. That would be great, and it's Super Bowl they that is it was your super Bowl runner up picks, so we could both be feeling great during Super Bowl Week and then you just root for the other team, and then you would be right and root for the Eagles, and I will be right. They've set a precedent here, like if if they win the Super Bowl, Sirianni and Hurts have to have one next year. They have to also run a Philly special in that game if they get there. He's very steady. He's not um, gonna kill you from the pocket all the time. But I think his improvement as a passer has been notable, Like he makes some really nice throws where he buys time in the pocket to throw instead of running. It's certainly not all R P O stuff. And he's a good decision maker. Like how many times does he have been like, oh, why did you do that? Jail hurts? No? I mean it's it's it's on a inn full like the bad thros he's made too, And like I I I feel like I can't find another quarterback on this list that made a bigger leap from where we ended with him last year and what that offense was to what it can do now. And I mean he's at three, and I guess in another season maybe he wouldn't be be at three. But it's been a tough year to be like, oh, this guy's coming from the wilderness and sweeping up the list. There aren't a lot of guys doing that right now. It's a great point, justin Graver, who's here with us, Hey, just then, and how many times have we um that's how you do. I thought I could get away with it without Dan No. I mean I like this. I like the whole bit, and you know, feel free to do do drops in here all of your normal stuff. You just looked like a man who had something to say. Well, I was gonna bring it up, and Mark just mentioned it. The leap that Jalen Hurts has made. I feel like it's underrated and often not talked about. Like everyone talks about Josh Allen being this guy who improved so much and that it's so rare to see someone do that. But Jalen Hurts, I mean his last year at Alabama before he went to Oklahoma, he was a terrible passer of the football and he's just improved so much. And I think people kind of mocked Nick Sirianni for some press conference things that he said when he first got hired, but he deserves a lot of credit for under the radar as a coach. I feel like there should be more like Nick Sirianni think pieces out there. That's a good point. I mean, the people have just sort of accepted them as a superpower, awfully quick, and you're right, like what I did you know, that's a badman own back here. But I did a sandwich prop He's gonna make the Pro Bowl team. Jalen Hurts as like the first time in a in a pretty loaded NFC for quarterbacks that he would be one of the top three, And I and everyone at least took the sandwich on that. It's it's been really impressive. I remember moved the sticks. Our friend Daniel Jeremiah, who I'm excited to announce is going to start a podcast. Daniel, Yeah, yeah, like talk about the draft. Have read Bucky Brooks. I think it's gonna be good. It's got a lot of knowledge. I remember during the draft process him wrestling with Jalen Hurts because he said he clearly isn't there as a passer. But we're seeing these sort of athletes do well at quarterback. And there's something that everyone who's ever met Jalen Hurts says is so special about him that I just have to put him in my top fifty, which was higher than most people had him. I just have to put him there just because even if it doesn't make sense, he hasn't shown it on tape. He's just like such an amazing individual. And wants it so bad that he thinks like there's a good he could get there some day. I mean there's there's locker room clips of him weekly talking to the team. That's sort of been the unanimous thing. You know, we're a year removed from It's like this whole thing Jalen Hurts is simply on a tryout to see if the Eagles can't find something better. Now it's like, uh, that tryout worked right, And also, can we hold off on the like Jalen Hurts contract extension talk, Just let's just enjoy the season. Just just let this season play out and then we can get to that. The defect ball is more interesting and the rest of this season will greatly in form the contract, you know, So just we don't need to talk about it now. It's just it's just like, enjoy it. There you go, Sean Kelly, I love it. He's in the back cheering our resident Eagles fan. We've got so many Eagles fans everywhere, it's it's ridiculous. The rest of the top ten Gino Smith, Joe Burrow, Aaron Rodgers at nine and to a who Yeah, it's tough to know what to do with injured guys, I might add him a little tough to know what to do with a Rogers. Yeah, I think you're I would say, you're being generous. But it comes back to what we're dealing with in the NFL, which Justin and I talked about on Monday night, to of like just offenses are down yards per attempt is way down in terms of quarterbacks, and so once you go through the rest of the list, Actually, I don't have anyone that like screams they have to be ahead of Aaron Rodgers. I personally would have Tanno Hire, but we'll we'll get to have a question for Mark. Yes, what does Gino Smith have to do to climb higher than he is? He's seventh? Um, I mean that he's seventh. The guys he's behind, other than Hurts might all be Hall of Famers. Yeah, I think it's I think it's that. I think it's just like we're you're getting closer and closer where it should be. Based almost entirely on this season. I think you're there after four or five weeks, I would say, but I also like, look at the last game he had, it's like he's been good, he's been great. I mean, I guess I could go put him at three or four, but I and I see that, you know, also like I'll go check like pff or something after I do it. And I mean all season long, he's been riding the top. PFF. He's he's doing, he's qbr darling. But it's like I just don't I look at the overall person and body of work to some degree, still here in week six and and he's seven. Is fine for MEAs like is he a better quarterback than Tom Brady? I guess, But part of it is like Tom Brady has been in a rough environment, but he but he has been he If you didn't know their names, you could you could make a case for Gino Smith being high. I think you gotta go purely on this year. And uh, I don't think it's crazy to have him, That's what I mean. I don't think it's crazy to have him at seven purely on this year. Yes, all the numbers, UH would say higher, They would say yeah, fourth, probably behind Hurts Mahomes. And I did, at least in the high coup for Geno Smith take a shot here myself, let's hear it. The author of this column giggled at me in August. Now he's hushed. M hmm. I mean, I'm taking a huge dirt nap on the Geno front, and I've accepted it, you and many others. I mean, it's Ryan Dan, Dan, a lot of a lot of a lot of Geno daughters, a lot of Jets fans out there. It is outrageous. I weirdly liked last week as a Geno fan because the heights he was reaching, we're getting a little outrageous. And what I liked was the defense won them a game and that he just had like a normal mediocre game. Because if that's his baseline of like his lower games, that's it. Yeah, you like the floor because he reminds me a little bit of a more athletic now Dalton. And I know that's a weird thing to say, but it prime Dalton. Whereas I just think he makes the right decisions, and I think he's ahead of the Dalton scale certainly right now. He's certainly flasher, he makes better at throws. I just mean that he kind of gives what the defense, He takes what the defense gives him, and he doesn't make a lot of bad decisions. And maybe he holds the ball a little too long, so that all reminds me, and he's accurate, and that reminds me of Andy Dalton, but like a better version of it. I think it's an incredible case study because I remember like watching football when I was young and was like, oh, Phil Simms finally turns a corner in his career in year five, or like Joe thiseman had like years in a row where he wasn't even a starter. It's like, you didn't just give up on these guys and draft someone new right away. And she knows a case where like I'm not saying he created a lot of his own issues. He wasn't. It wasn't excellent on tape when he was playing back in the day. But it's like these careers go through such bi rhythms and like give up on these dudes. It's like who else is sitting out there? That could be this version of Gino where you've just learned to bathe in the league for long enough, you feel more comfortable and your skill set takes over. I think that's that's a great point. Mark, And Uh, it reminds me a little bit of Fitzpatrick because people think of Ryan Fitzpatrick in a certain way now, but until he got that chance in Tampa, really, I don't think they, like anyone would have thought he could have had a late career renaissance like he did, and he just got it through injury. And then you have this three or four years where actually he played at a higher level for those three or four years than really any other point except for that one Buffalo. This happens to quarterbacks throughout their career. I mean, quarterbacks hit their prime in their thirties. Matt Ryan didn't win his first m v p N till he was in that range. Matthew Stafford got so much better than Ryan Tannehill. I mean that was that wasn't he didn't go into the wilderness for four years, but I mean he was ridden out of town and then comeback Player of the Year and looking like it. And I think it's for similar reasons to Gino, because I think you look at the way Gina wins and his experience is his most valuable asset right now. I think he's just like a smart he He always showed an ability to go through his reads and stay calm, and that was the thing I liked about him. Was like he was a real quarterback, quarterback like and that usually means success. But I think the fact that when your mind catches up to your physical skills, and I think that happened with Tannehill. I think that happened with Ben Roethlisberger late in his career and that's why he got better. And now I'm struggling to find your list again. Uh give me, uh give me Rogers is hiku just because it's good. Sorry, I'm just like commanding you. Like no, I I like how this is operated. Give me a hiku. Aaron Rodgers? Uh agitated peeved? Wait is that New York Jet skuy wearing a cheesehead? Just the way that game ended, just you know, so bizarre. Oh that's amazing. Uh to a like you said his temper and that's a tough one. He I, I didn't count. You can't please anyone. I don't mean you, but anyone with wherever you put to a, you're gonna anyone's going an off on something. To me, i'd have him a little slightly lower, maybe based off his play, but not because he was hurt. I do how I thought of it was after about five weeks, it was just like, what is the average start from this guy? Like and then whatever that and then rank it that way. That's a good with my own little head, good way to do it. Cousins eleventh. You know he's he's been eleventh forever. Uh. Kyler twelfth actually higher than I would expect. Uh do you sort? We did talk about him a lot Tuesday. I think we part of the reason is we put a little more on maybe his coach than than him. And then Tannehill thirteen, let's hear Tannehills. Uh, Ryan Tannehills high cup is for those thinking he'd be bounced by now from Leak Willis Tanny lives. I don't know if many people thought he would be by now, but it was got kind of dark there when they drafted him, and it was like he talked about his offseason and how disconnected he felt. They trade A. J. Brown away. It was like they were starting over. See sometimes the line breaks um are surprising and and I like that. And so this is my reading of Guyan Tan Hills for those thinking he'd be bounced by now. For Malik Willis Tanny, I think are more of the visual when you read it on page Okay, that's just my t I thought there was like a whole I could be wrong with the culture of like how people read would wink the listener there by not having them not know what I mean. It does have that element to it, but sometimes you get the musicality for those thinking he'd I like that pause be bounced by now for maleik, I like that pause, and then willis Tanny lives. I don't know, it's just like erratic and fun. I would have him higher, and I know he doesn't probably rate incredibly high in the advanced metrics. Actually he has been. He has been ranking high in the completion percentage over expectation plus e p A per pass attempt there just don't throw the ball. I think he was second US and I saw the Titans just don't throw the ball very much. And yeah in QBR and I think PFF, he's mediocre this year, and he had like a two year run where they were on top of the world, where he would always rank like third in PFF and they'd have to defend it. I just watched him every week and kind of like Gino, I think he just makes good decisions, like he's a guy that you know what you're gonna get and there's a lot to that, and he makes more big throws than people realize. It's one of my favorite quarterbacks to watch, and I felt away for a couple of years, but I think there's a toughness to his game. He's willing to take a shot and fire it down field. I could see his teammates love him for all that business and like that's my kind of dude. Okay, Yeah, that the raw numbers are are weird, Like he has thrown half as many passes as Joe Burrow, so yeah, he doesn't miss the ball. Yeah. They also had a bye week, but heading into last week when Titans didn't play, Tannehill was tied for the league leading games with a QB rating over one hundred for this season with five out of They've had like the streak of good halfs in a good way, and he's been sent sational for like chunks of time in a row. Here here's why I think he deserves to be even higher. I would probably have him eight or nine. I just think all the reasons that we give as excuses for all these other quarterbacks, he's got those in spades, and people don't think of Ryan Tannell as a guy who improves his teammates, like lifts them. But I think he's at that level now. He's no longer close to the Dalton line to meet his offensive line in the past. Protection has been terrible the last two years, and he like makes it work. And his receivers aren't really that good and he makes it work like that. I I give him a lot of credit. Car and Stafford are next Garoppolo goff. Wow. That to me, those are all like in the from the same generation of players too. I guess Stafford's a little older. Let's do Stafford at a T and t ads should be fewer. Pick sixes should be fewer too. Oh that's it. That might be the winner so far. That's a good one. What about uh little Caesar's ads? Well, you know, when you're dealing with a five seven five syllable count like there's limited space to uh, It's like it's like a less um open field tweet. I think he's getting a little bit of credit for what he did a year ago. Uh. And the situation is tough because he struggled. He has not looked good. I think it's with some of these guys like the floor is about to fall out. If if what we see is what we're gonna get, we'll talk about them when they come off the by. But they were under center a lot more against the Panthers, and it really worked well. The numbers were great for Stafford under center. That was sort of more of the old basic Jared Goff offense. Our friend Maurice Jones Drew who does their broadcast, was saying mcveigh's gotta stop being stubborn and realized like, kind of go back to use that trope again, simplify, go back to the basics. But he said, but they were doing that, I think against the Panthers, and it worked all right. Jared Goff, Daniel Jones, Mariota and Dalton. I've really cracked up checking the PFUH numbers the last couple of weeks because Andy Dalton is fourth right now among their qualifying quartotas. That it's funny because I think it's because they look they grade in such a way that made me like Tannehill and Gino two in that they just grade like pluses and minuses, and like he just has so few minuses that you're just like, oh, he pretty much does the right thing, and he doesn't hurt you. It's been a good version of Daltons. I also I think that you know, but he's not not a lot of flash, not a flash. I mean. Also the most exciting um performance uh in the backfield came from Taysom Hill. Recently he's sort of like got a sidecar doing stuff he could do and throwing a touchdown in that game. But Dalton's been really clean. But like I do think there's an human element where it's like I can't put Dalton at number four or five, like come on, I mean that's preposterous and there's no way he's even played at that level anyway. So if you wanted to give him some love, you could maybe put him ahead of Daniel Jones. I know he hasn't won mini games. I don't know. I think you've got him in just the right spot. And I was too hard on you last week with your Jimmy g at sixteen. He's been steady too, he played well. I had him higher last week because he had had to I thought promising performances in a row, but then he came back to earth a little bit. The start of the show here though, is your high Cuz, let's go with you're gonna rip him off in a row. We're gonna do something different. Three quarterbacks in a row, Jared Goff, Daniel Jones, and Mariota. Okay, Jared Goff off adequate golf. Lucky there aren't thirty other Belichicks just because Belichick just owns them. Daniel Jones operating as a s Quan handoff robot who does just enough. It doesn't maybe a little harsh on Daniel Jones handoff robot is just a very uh poetic image. You know that's what Pops? Do you want me to do? Mariota? Was that the third one here? Um? I flung a t D to Kyle Pitts. Time to chill fantasy nimrods. Although I think from a real football angle that was a nice development too, I mean it was, But you're right, I am getting I've gotten annoyed by the whole like fantasy community because I follow enough of them on Twitter. Are like really mad at the Falcons and the Jets. They're just like really mad at Arthur Smith and uh Mike la Fleur for running efficient offenses that are back in there. They're not. It's not resulting in good fantasy numbers for anyone, but get over yourself. They're actually good offenses for what they need to be. Did you see Elijah Moore's tweet after the game one that was unfortunate? Yeah? He said, like if I said what I really wanted to say, It's like if you say that, you might as well just say it because you've already said it. But he's like, I'm happy we're winning, but yeah, this sucks. Uh you might want to say, like, uh, yeah that Flacco we were throwing it for like three d and sixty yards and like three inter se is a different of it. Can we get some like music or sound accompaniment to when Mark reads this? I, uh, I'm gonna read Andy Dalton's How about that? Andy Dalton glowing red ginger Man average skills, a key back tastes them to start. Not that was it was a bad reading. I mean, have it changed that too? Because I think we're getting closer to Dalton starting. It looks like he's gonna start on Thursday night. All right, your next uh five, we'll we'll say. Trevor, Lawrence Russell, Wilson, Matt Ryan moving up this week, Carson Wentz moving down he has that injury four? Can he pickets at five? I gotta say the single most surprising ranking you had to me was Russell Wilson. I thought he would be even lower. Let's hear that sad music for the for the Russell WILSONI depressing yards after halftime is not what Denver paid for. I think that was good because it's stripped away the artifice, like the poetry, you know what I mean, Like something needs to be flowery, have that image. In this case, everything is dark and you just gave us like the simple plain words of darkness. Yeah, I mean, so you're you would like to see him? Well, you mentioned on our other show that you felt he was at the very bottom of the league. Who has played worse at quarterback than and then Russell Wilson this year. I'm gonna go through your list. P J. Walker is on the list right now. And whoever is the Panthers guy? Yes, Davis Mills. I think I'd put Mills ahead of him. Cooper Rush. I'd put Cooper Rush ahead him. I would say Cooper Russia's average game was better. Justin field. We love Akholder back. I put dustin fields behind him. So that's thirty. So that's two. Bailey's Appy, I got it. Bailey's Appy's definitely had a rustle. Well I just want but just right now, Bailey Zappy's average game has absolutely been better. Zack Wilson I put ahead of him, not by a ton and then yeah, so yeah, I think i'd have him thirty. Wow. I mean, I just I guess with Russell will I mean, he's looked terrible. He's seen yards after it's the whole thing seems so broken that I don't hate what you're saying. I um, I mean, he's gonna sink like a stone if this is what is what he is right now, because I don't know how you go through another off season if this is Russell Wilson all season saying we're gonna roll this whole thing out again. Now. Uh. You know, some of the numbers are closer to you. The e p A completion percentage over expected composite has him twenty six out of thirty three, so a little closer to you. Completion percentage over expected similar, He's ahead of about five or six guys QB are similar, and just the eye test in PFF, which to me is sometimes kind of similar has him about. Yeah, I had a five or six guys. So either way though, it's somewhere between our two. Right, it's surprising, no matter what I mean, it's crazy. I can you think of any example, And this is tough. It's putting you on the spot. I couldn't come up with anything in the history, at least in the last twenty years when we're covering the NFL, like, has there ever been like something like this, a dramatic fall off for a great you know, potentially Hall of Fame quarterback this fast? Certainly not while changing teams, because that like has hasn't really happened. That hasn't happened. I can't come up with anything. I mean not not if you look at Russell Wilson's age, because he's not forty two. Um, I would point to like a startling fall off. A cliff was Brett Farve in two thousand and ten, but not surprising. It just was hard to watch. I mean maybe even then he had kind of fallen. He had declined pretty hard before that two thousand nine season, and that was like his resurgence. So it's sort of made sense. I mean, I guess, like you know, it was to pressing to watch another Bronco Peyton Manning during that Super Bowl season. His exit like you know, be replaced by Brocks. That was like a neck injury and age too true, but it was truly shocking because he had shown no signs the year before he was still like that's also I would say that there was natural age going on there, and Roethlisberger is a guy who age was like purely the reason he fell off a claiming if anybody Wilson's still young, Wilson's not not in that group where he was at the age. Raethlisberger was a guy everyone said would age poorly, and the reality was he didn't. That didn't happen until he was thirty eight thirty nine. He was maybe playing the best football of his career at Russell Wilson's age. And they're pretty similar players. I think if you had to come up with I know that the size is so different, but in the in the running ability, but I think in some ways they're they're about as similar as anyone I can come up with for Ben, and but it's like it's a unique case. And I also think this season, especially like it's been if they had been tucked away at one pm Eastern, six games in a row, A lot less people would be talking about it, but like it's been so visual and so island gaming and so in our face. Yeah, I'm not sure what to do with Trevor Lawrence. I think you have him in in the exact right spot at I don't know if he's hot and cold so much as just um, not there yet, and that's fine. He's in the second year, some progress this year, certainly. I think you've got him in the perfect spot, which would be it's weird because he'd be a Dalton right now at twenty is kind of the Dalton scale. He's the Dalton. Is the Dalton line right now? Maybe on this list, and Lawrence, I would say, is like right at it, right at it. Maybe he's one above it, maybe he's one below. Uh. You want to do matt Ryan's hiku where they all said sad autumn brighter after Mattie ice flings and third throws. We'll get to it on Thursday, but Mattie I showed something that was a great game. It was a nice change for them. This just feels like poetry music to me. And yeah, not necessarily sad. I mean it is sad, But yeah, I think you're a little hard on, uh, your guy, Jacoby Brissette. I think you're showing some of your yeah, some of your feelings there. It's like you're you're harder on him. I think he played so great until last week. I know, I know he had some big time misses and that's why, a big time mistakes and key spots, and that's why you couldn't put him in the top ten where all the advanced stats would have had him before last week. But to me, he would He would have been closer to like fifteen going into last week and six and it was a bad game out of him, there was no question about. I just kind of think that might be like what we just saw is like more the Jacoby Brissette we're going to see um, But he also had three killer miss stakes that prevented them from winning games. It kind of bothers me. But can we get the haiku for him to Jacoby passes times? Chubb carries twelve, Pat's a bomb Browns. That's amazing. Trying out some new music there. I like that. I like that fit. You know, I was very basic. I don't know if Dan would have you know, spiced it up. I just went straight through the list. We're hitting the bottom five Zack Wilson. Pretty low for Zack, but I guess it makes sense. Hasn't played that much and hasn't done that much. Bailey Zappy, he's gotten better each week. Justin Fields, Cooper Rush, Davis Mills, and then P. J. Walker, who believe only completed one pass past the line of scrimmage, which is like sixty yards when he was taken out of the game. That was a tough situation. I think of his completions were behind the line of scrimmage. Um, all right, our final two high coups we're gonna do for the day. Let's end. Uh strong love these two. Cooper Rush at thirty and Davis Mills at third. All right, here's Cooper Rush, Cooper Rush. Time for Jara to leave a suitcase full of green bills in my locker. Davis Mills, Mills wondering if Easter but will return his R. E. M C D. That's another Easter Egg, one that's been exclusive to the pods, been asked to be edited. I don't even want to go deeper into that joke. Um, I just love uh that image just strange. Team Jack borrow that reckoning c D. He's like, yeah, they have that reckon, you have reckoning love that hour from Davis Mills, who's like very little of an r M fan. I'm an Davis will has been uh like a little disappointing to me this year. He's just not accurate, uh deeper down the field and you just haven't seen the flash plays. He's played like a perfectly competent backup at worst, but he hasn't. He's I think shown less than a year. He hasn't been bad. It has been bad, but he's not good. I was expecting him to kind of be Um a favorite of mine, in a nice surprise, and it's not really held true. The ball just doesn't go where he intended to go, which is like the number one thing um that bothers me when you're watching them each and every week, because you you can never overcome that unless you're Josh Allen and then you become the greatest chord back in the world. Uh. And yeah, Cooper Rush was on the practice squad and it's only making a million dollars. Give me a break for all the overpaid cowboys that they have over the year, they better give him like an assistant vice president, uh job to like you know, charity and in the off season, and like I I went to are the Cap to look at where he ranked, and it's like there are some absurd human beings making more than he is from what he's done this year. But right, some of them probably are not playing football. They're they're out of the league and they have guaranteed money. Uh yeah, Cooper, rusty of their season. And I think we've saved um this podcast and not that it needed it. Um, I mean the the hole around the NFL, this individual spinoff show, I mean the whole enterprise. We needed an injection of surprise and um daring do and haiku. And we've done it. We've done it this Wednesday. We've done it. Thank you, Grave Digger. We credit you for that. Oh no, don't do that. Yes, fabulous, fabulous uh producing and just a little something extra for the listeners. I hope you guys liked it. Uh, let us know. And if you don't like it, don't let us know. That's how I don't get into our headspace with complaints. We will be back on Thursday and Friday with our regularly scheduled preview show and uh Friday Fun Show. It's fun Mark. I had fun for Mark Sassler, grave digger. He'd the call M