Guns N' Roses: Use Your Illusion II (1991): Track by Track!

<v Speaker 1>Hey, everybody, welcome back to the Surely you Can't Be
<v Speaker 1>Serious podcast D. Today we are going to continue this
<v Speaker 1>three parter and we're going to go track by track
<v Speaker 1>through Usual Illusion two.
<v Speaker 2>We okay, everybody, we are recording on the thirtieth anniversary
<v Speaker 2>of the day that User Illusion one and two were released.
<v Speaker 2>How mind blowing is that. I realized that you guys
<v Speaker 2>aren't going to hear it for a few days. But
<v Speaker 2>mind blown. We are recording thirty years to the day
<v Speaker 2>that people went out and bought these things in swarms.
<v Speaker 1>There's no way these albums are thirty years old.
<v Speaker 2>Thirty years old, I'm afraid.
<v Speaker 1>Today is September seventeenth, twenty twenty one.
<v Speaker 2>I am really pumped. I hesitate to say since we
<v Speaker 2>haven't given final judgment yet, but I am not surprised
<v Speaker 2>by the fact that this album outsold Use Your Illusion
<v Speaker 2>one whenever they were first released.
<v Speaker 1>Well, and it's not just because of the Terminator song.
<v Speaker 2>Right, Well, No, there are a ton of great songs
<v Speaker 2>on this one. I can't wait to get into it.
<v Speaker 1>It's amazing that we got these two albums based on
<v Speaker 1>where the band was. I mean, they were in drug
<v Speaker 1>problems and reab trouble and Steven Adler's fired and axles
<v Speaker 1>off the rails.
<v Speaker 2>Well, and this kind of brings something else up. You know.
<v Speaker 2>Dayton Johnson is one of the guys who is on
<v Speaker 2>a Film by podcast. If you guys haven't checked out
<v Speaker 2>the Film By podcast, go check those guys out. Dayton
<v Speaker 2>helps them out. They're doing a all the movies of
<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty six basically, and he's on those episodes. That's
<v Speaker 2>a lot fun. And he's just gotten a new podcast himself.
<v Speaker 2>It's called Docking Base seventy seven. Go check that one out.
<v Speaker 2>But he hit us up after he listened to our
<v Speaker 2>Metallica episode and we're comparing Metallica and Guns N' Roses
<v Speaker 2>ninety one albums here, and he said, just finished with Metallica.
<v Speaker 2>He told me some stuff I did know, which is
<v Speaker 2>that they were in that little roach motel that they
<v Speaker 2>were staying in when they were recording. They were staying
<v Speaker 2>with Anthrax. But something I didn't know, the band Anthraxx, Yes,
<v Speaker 2>the band Anthracs, not the disease. He said that they
<v Speaker 2>actually had contemplated firing Lars right around the time that
<v Speaker 2>Cliff Burton died and had Cliff not died, Lars might
<v Speaker 2>not have been a member of the band. That's past
<v Speaker 2>that point.
<v Speaker 1>What are you talking about.
<v Speaker 2>I know I had no idea, but that is fantastic.
<v Speaker 2>Before we get going, I just have to say I
<v Speaker 2>was listening to our last episode and I heard our
<v Speaker 2>Manskate dad, and I was thinking, Okay, this is getting
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<v Speaker 1>The yard of the.
<v Speaker 2>Summer is winding down, and my yard needs to be mode.
<v Speaker 2>We're getting a little out of control in some areas.
<v Speaker 2>Some bushes need to be hedged back, some lawnmowing needs
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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you what. I like my lawn mode and trim.
<v Speaker 2>My tree always looks taller. Whenever I cut my grass shorter.
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<v Speaker 2>Okay. Another guy who is a big supporter of ours
<v Speaker 2>is David Wright. He's an author and an outstanding source
<v Speaker 2>of suggestions and information on some of the episodes that
<v Speaker 2>we've done. He encouraged us to watch Southern Comfort, which
<v Speaker 2>we brought up in the Aliens episodes, which I'm guessing
<v Speaker 2>he's going through right now Aliens Versus Terminator, versus Alien
<v Speaker 2>Versus Terminator two. All that good stuff.
<v Speaker 1>That sounds like a great episode.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you guys should go check that out. But then
<v Speaker 2>he gave us a ton of suggestions. Let me just
<v Speaker 2>throw some of these out here. War Games versus Tron
<v Speaker 2>Great Love It Last, Starfighter versus Flight to the Navigator.
<v Speaker 2>I think that was one of our original matchups that
<v Speaker 2>we still haven't done it together yet. Dead Poets Society
<v Speaker 2>versus School Ties, Rob Stoker's Dragula versus Mary Shelley's Frankenstein.
<v Speaker 2>But one of the best ones we were supposed to
<v Speaker 2>do this year is Hoosier's versus Rudy, both of them
<v Speaker 2>by the same writing directing team. Hoosier is going to
<v Speaker 2>be thirty five this year, and so it would have
<v Speaker 2>been a great year to do it, but we'll just
<v Speaker 2>have to take it up whenever, you know, whenever Rudy
<v Speaker 2>has an anniversary. And then he had one which we've
<v Speaker 2>talked about doing. Fight Club versus Seven. Yes, he suggested
<v Speaker 2>fight Club versus the Sixth Sense, which twist ending great
<v Speaker 2>idea great man there. I don't know which of those
<v Speaker 2>two matchups would be better.
<v Speaker 1>Ninety nine, I think, yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Exactly, So that's a really good one as well. So
<v Speaker 2>let me just say to our Shirley fans out there,
<v Speaker 2>if you are interested in proposing some matchups for us,
<v Speaker 2>do a review for our podcast on Apple Podcasts or
<v Speaker 2>whatever podcast app you use, and on the review put in, Hey,
<v Speaker 2>you guys should do you know secretive nim versus Watership Down,
<v Speaker 2>which is another one of David Wright's suggestions. But do that,
<v Speaker 2>or if you've got a question, if you're like, man,
<v Speaker 2>I really wish I knew this about some eighties or
<v Speaker 2>nineties or seventies or whatever. You got any question at all,
<v Speaker 2>just go ahead and put that in the review, and
<v Speaker 2>I promise we will take up your question on the
<v Speaker 2>next episode that we have. We forgot to say, everybody,
<v Speaker 2>right now, choose your illusion, right, this is the time
<v Speaker 2>as we go through this album, think about use your
<v Speaker 2>illusion one, use your illusion two. And this is I
<v Speaker 2>took quote. I shouldn't do that, No, terrible, That was
<v Speaker 2>Jason's baby right there. Choose your allusion.
<v Speaker 1>Choose your illusion one or two. Yeah, all right, it's
<v Speaker 1>time to go track by track through Use your allusion two.
<v Speaker 2>Song number one, Civil War.
<v Speaker 1>What we've got here is failure Milk. That line right there,
<v Speaker 1>that's from the movie Cool Hand, Luke.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, fantastic movie. The imagery continues. He's whistling the tune
<v Speaker 2>of when Johnny comes marching home again, and it's all
<v Speaker 2>steeped in this kind of political comment on the fact
<v Speaker 2>that all war is civil war and there isn't any
<v Speaker 2>war that's civil.
<v Speaker 1>What's so civil about war anyway?
<v Speaker 2>Right? So part of this did you know that Chicago
<v Speaker 2>helped write this song? What I just wanted to say
<v Speaker 2>that I just want to say that, No, not Chicago,
<v Speaker 2>the band. Okay, Chicago, the town. So this one of
<v Speaker 2>the quotes in this song is from this Peruvian gorilla
<v Speaker 2>and the only place that you can find that quote
<v Speaker 2>is in this article that was in the Chicago Tribune
<v Speaker 2>back in nineteen ninety And the band we know was
<v Speaker 2>they did some recording and some songwriting out there. So
<v Speaker 2>I have to say Chicago Tribune at least helped them
<v Speaker 2>come up with some of the lyrics for the song.
<v Speaker 1>That is interesting and that is interesting. So this song
<v Speaker 1>actually appears in nineteen ninety on a compilation album called
<v Speaker 1>Nobody's Child The Romanian Angel Appeal.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so real quick on this song. Part of the
<v Speaker 2>inspiration from this song came from back when Axel was
<v Speaker 2>still married to Aaron Everley. He had a brother in law.
<v Speaker 2>This is what this is. These are his words he
<v Speaker 2>had a brother in law who was an arms dealer
<v Speaker 2>who was talking about how stupid all these countries were
<v Speaker 2>because he could sell them all these machines to kill
<v Speaker 2>each other with. And so I'm just thinking brother in law.
<v Speaker 2>So I started looking, and her brother, Aaron Everley's brother
<v Speaker 2>is a musician. I don't think it was him. And
<v Speaker 2>she had a sister named Stacy Everly, who if she
<v Speaker 2>was married, that would have been her brother in law
<v Speaker 2>and his brother, right, So I'm thinking it's got to
<v Speaker 2>be that guy, but I could not find anything about it.
<v Speaker 2>So shout out to anybody who knows who the brother
<v Speaker 2>in law arms dealer of Axel was back in the eighties.
<v Speaker 2>Who he would have been inspired? Right? Part of Civil War?
<v Speaker 1>Wow, that is fascinating.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so good. I think I'm just gonna go ahead
<v Speaker 2>and carefully spike the football. I think this is the
<v Speaker 2>best song on both albums.
<v Speaker 1>Then my first member, Kennedy, I when no when I
<v Speaker 1>know so wow? Wow, Okay, I know our buddy James Buckley.
<v Speaker 1>This is his favorite song.
<v Speaker 2>Oh of course, of course he told me beforehand.
<v Speaker 1>He's like, okay, I'm prepping for the pot, and he
<v Speaker 1>said I listened to it all the way through us
<v Speaker 1>your lusion one, use your alusion two. He said there
<v Speaker 1>were some skippers, and there are, and he said, but
<v Speaker 1>I listened to Civil War four times.
<v Speaker 2>You know how I know that this is because when
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing searches for this, instead of saying use your Illusion,
<v Speaker 2>I'm like Civil War two, I'm like, oh wait, no wait,
<v Speaker 2>it's not that the album isn't called Civil War, It's
<v Speaker 2>called use your Illusion.
<v Speaker 1>All right. So the birth of this song is really cool.
<v Speaker 1>So they this was an instrumental song at one point
<v Speaker 1>that they would do during sound checks and Slash would
<v Speaker 1>play it actually came up with some stuff. Duth McKagan
<v Speaker 1>went to a like protest as a little kid because
<v Speaker 1>mom took him to a protest. Yeah, and he's like,
<v Speaker 1>you know, oh yeah, I remember all that. So it's
<v Speaker 1>kind of a war protest song. The line is did
<v Speaker 1>you wear the black armband when they shot the man
<v Speaker 1>who said peace could last forever? And that's in a
<v Speaker 1>reference to Martin Luther King. I think it's interesting that
<v Speaker 1>George Harrison and Tom Petty personally called Axel and asked
<v Speaker 1>him for a song. That's how we get this song
<v Speaker 1>on that compilation. Of Yeah, this song was first played
<v Speaker 1>farm Aid in nineteen ninety and it was the first
<v Speaker 1>and last song that was played with Steven Adler.
<v Speaker 2>I was going to say, this is the only song
<v Speaker 2>on this album that has Steven Adler on the drums,
<v Speaker 2>and from what I understand.
<v Speaker 1>They pulled him off of it.
<v Speaker 2>Well, they it's him on the drums, but it's about
<v Speaker 2>sixty different takes where they would just piece together what
<v Speaker 2>he had done because he could not make it through
<v Speaker 2>the song from beginning to end and have a quality piece.
<v Speaker 1>This was the song where they realized, this guy's not
<v Speaker 1>functioning right, he can't be our drummer anymore.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, farm Aid was the last. Was that the last?
<v Speaker 2>That's the last one?
<v Speaker 1>So here's the funny part. They say that they fired
<v Speaker 1>him because of his drug use, right, which is laughable
<v Speaker 1>because Axel was using, as he was using, Slash was using,
<v Speaker 1>Duff was using, and they bring in Matt Sorom as
<v Speaker 1>his replacement.
<v Speaker 2>Who immediately starts doing grogs with Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's not that he was a drug user,
<v Speaker 1>it's the fact he couldn't play his drums anymore.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was so bad that he couldn't play and
<v Speaker 2>I think on that farm aid when if you watch
<v Speaker 2>the video on that, you'll see him trip and fall
<v Speaker 2>as he's going up to his drum set.
<v Speaker 1>It's really too bad. This was the one that didn't.
<v Speaker 1>Civil War reached number four on the mainstream rock chart
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen nine.
<v Speaker 2>So it quotes the speech by this Peruvian shining Path Gorilla.
<v Speaker 2>He says, we've practiced selective annihilation of mayors and government officials,
<v Speaker 2>for example, to create a vacuum. Then we filled that
<v Speaker 2>vacuum as popular war advances peace. It's closer creepy.
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna to think about that.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, get rid of people and then put our
<v Speaker 2>own people in yep.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, civil War love it? I agree with you. One
<v Speaker 1>of the best songs on the album for sure, maybe
<v Speaker 1>best on both albums.
<v Speaker 2>So this one was written by slash Stuff and Axel,
<v Speaker 2>and like we said, it still had Steven Adler on it,
<v Speaker 2>but it did not have Izzy on this No is
<v Speaker 2>he on this one? No is he on this one.
<v Speaker 2>We've got piano by Dizzy Reid, and we've got background
<v Speaker 2>vocals by Duff and Dizzy.
<v Speaker 1>But I know Izzy is already working his way toward
<v Speaker 1>the exit at night.
<v Speaker 2>To night right, And so speaking of Izzy, I think
<v Speaker 2>it's time to jump into song number two. Song number two,
<v Speaker 2>fourteen years.
<v Speaker 3>Shine are you? You chime down the complain?
<v Speaker 4>You try?
<v Speaker 2>All right? Real bluesy right out of the gate. And
<v Speaker 2>this is is he singing?
<v Speaker 1>Is he on lead vocals?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Izzy is playing the rhythm guitar and singing the
<v Speaker 2>lead vocals and way bluesier than our standard guns n' roses.
<v Speaker 1>Fair let's keep going, all right?
<v Speaker 2>So this song is this song is fourteen years. This
<v Speaker 2>is about how they were not an overnight success, right,
<v Speaker 2>this is their idea is we've been doing this for
<v Speaker 2>fourteen years before all of the fame happened to is anyway,
<v Speaker 2>Izzy and Axel both had a song called fourteen years
<v Speaker 2>that they just kind of like were like, wait what
<v Speaker 2>And they're the two that started together right way back
<v Speaker 2>in Indiana, So.
<v Speaker 1>They were friends in Indiana. This song they think was
<v Speaker 1>written in nineteen eighty nine because at that point they
<v Speaker 1>had been friends for about fourteen years.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they stopped playing it when is he left the
<v Speaker 1>band because not really friends anymore? Right' not really going
<v Speaker 1>to celebrate my friendship with Izzy on stage?
<v Speaker 2>It is crazy though. I mean, how many of these
<v Speaker 2>songs they don't play after the album comes out.
<v Speaker 1>You have to wait until the Not in this Lifetime
<v Speaker 1>tour to hear some of these songs.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you really like this one?
<v Speaker 1>I love this song.
<v Speaker 2>This is not one of my favorites. It is, okay,
<v Speaker 2>but it's just not not It's just.
<v Speaker 1>It's so diverse. It's different than Guns of Roses.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So moving on on usual illusion one. We had
<v Speaker 2>a song by Paul McCartney when it was with Wings,
<v Speaker 2>and now we've got a song when he was with
<v Speaker 2>the Beatles Yesterday.
<v Speaker 1>No, it's not a cup, it's not the same. No,
<v Speaker 1>it's different.
<v Speaker 2>Oh, yesterday's yesterday. There's an as in the.
<v Speaker 6>End Today the man was not anything.
<v Speaker 1>This song's beautiful right out of the gate man, It's
<v Speaker 1>just smooth.
<v Speaker 2>I love it. I love the simple, consistent drum beat.
<v Speaker 2>It's great.
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of poppy.
<v Speaker 2>It's poppy. It's it's got a country feel to it.
<v Speaker 2>It's not appetite for destruction at all.
<v Speaker 1>I think it's it's like a pop song with Axel's
<v Speaker 1>voice and slash guitar, which for me really works.
<v Speaker 2>This makes me think of the guy from Infectious Grooves Russ,
<v Speaker 2>who was talking to us on our last episode about
<v Speaker 2>the variety that you see in this album. This is
<v Speaker 2>so different and so good. It's just showing that this
<v Speaker 2>band can do more than just rock your balls off.
<v Speaker 2>They can also make you groove, man. They can also
<v Speaker 2>like make you feel like hanging out.
<v Speaker 4>That's right.
<v Speaker 1>This is a song that you can make out with
<v Speaker 1>your girlfriend. This song. We talked last week how they
<v Speaker 1>filmed the video for Garden of Eden the same day
<v Speaker 1>that they filmed the video for Yesterday's. Yeah, because they
<v Speaker 1>had the camera set up and well, crap, why not
<v Speaker 1>just film two videos and one?
<v Speaker 2>Why not, let's just get it all done.
<v Speaker 1>So this is a song that was written by Axl Rose,
<v Speaker 1>west Arkeen, Del James, and a guy named Billy McCleod.
<v Speaker 1>We've talked about del James before. He's the guy who
<v Speaker 1>wrote the short stories that November Rain was based on.
<v Speaker 1>West Arkeen, He's written all kinds of songs with them. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>he was like, yeah, stuff on Appetite for Destruction. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, they were good friends and he helped with
<v Speaker 1>the writing of this song. Okay. Yesterday's was released as
<v Speaker 1>a single November ninth of ninety two, beautiful song. Love
<v Speaker 1>it three for three out of the gate for me.
<v Speaker 2>Yep.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I want to say something about the music video. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>we talked about how it was filmed the same day
<v Speaker 1>as Garden of Eden. This music video there's two different versions.
<v Speaker 1>There's a black and white and then there's another version
<v Speaker 1>that shows clips and photos of the band, including Izzy
<v Speaker 1>who had left the band and Steven Eddlert.
<v Speaker 2>Fired who again fired, but still they were a part
<v Speaker 2>of the process. Put the song again.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. Okay, We done with this one, yep? All right?
<v Speaker 1>Moving on to Knocking on Heaven's Store.
<v Speaker 2>You recognize it right off the bat, you know it's
<v Speaker 2>Bob Dylan, but then they come in with that smashing,
<v Speaker 2>crashing guitar. This is one they had been covering for
<v Speaker 2>a long time, Like I think even pre Appetite days
<v Speaker 2>they were covering this song.
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I mean there's video of them, like in nineteen eighty
<v Speaker 1>seven at the Ritz I think, playing Knocking on Heaven's
<v Speaker 1>Star and it's one of those things where they interact
<v Speaker 1>with the crowd, right. Axel would sing Knock Knock, Knocking
<v Speaker 1>on Heaven's Door and then the crowd.
<v Speaker 2>Would they do the echo, they would do.
<v Speaker 1>The kN knocking on, that's go off.
<v Speaker 2>Awesome song. I would have loved to have seen them
<v Speaker 2>perform this live. The backing chorus that they have toward
<v Speaker 2>the end of the.
<v Speaker 1>Song, I love the gospel chorus is amazing.
<v Speaker 2>It's you know what it is like man in the
<v Speaker 2>mirror is what it is?
<v Speaker 1>Guilty? What can I say?
<v Speaker 2>Right? That's why you love this song so much so.
<v Speaker 2>This song was originally written by Bob Dylan for a movie,
<v Speaker 2>and that movie.
<v Speaker 1>Was called Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, had James Coburn, had Chris Christockerson, had Bob Dylan
<v Speaker 2>in it, and it had Slim Pickens in it. And
<v Speaker 2>Slim Pickens. As he was dying, says the lines that
<v Speaker 2>inspire the song to his wife, who he called Mama,
<v Speaker 2>get out, Yeah, and why do we have this song?
<v Speaker 1>Axel said he wanted to introduce this song to the
<v Speaker 1>next generation, and.
<v Speaker 2>He totally did right, Like I knew this song. I
<v Speaker 2>mean I in ninety one, I was listening to classic
<v Speaker 2>rock like I wasn't. I had given up on modern rock.
<v Speaker 2>So I think I actually of the two I owned
<v Speaker 2>us your illusion too. I did not get user illusion one,
<v Speaker 2>but there's a lot of classic rock feel to use
<v Speaker 2>your illusion to which I was vibing on at the time,
<v Speaker 2>and so I was familiar with the Bob Dylan version.
<v Speaker 2>I was also familiar with the Eric Clapton version, which
<v Speaker 2>is in another movie.
<v Speaker 1>That's how I know it. It's in the last scene
<v Speaker 1>of leitha Weapon two, right, like Riggs's shot Murtaz down there.
<v Speaker 1>Don't you die, Riggs, right, you understand you can't die?
<v Speaker 2>Right? And then in true form, the Guns and Roses
<v Speaker 2>version is also in a movie. It was in Days
<v Speaker 2>of Thunder, and that is the first release of this
<v Speaker 2>song was on the soundtrack to that movie.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, let me just say the summer of nineteen ninety,
<v Speaker 1>I wore out the Days of Thunder soundtrack because I
<v Speaker 1>love this song so much.
<v Speaker 2>That's the first time you see Nicole Kidman and Tom
<v Speaker 2>Cruise in a movie together. Of course, they you know,
<v Speaker 2>ultimately get married and have kids that had to get
<v Speaker 2>returned with Ropshot whenever they got divorced.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, so here you go. They started playing this June
<v Speaker 1>nineteenth of nineteen eighty seven. Slash Loves the guitar solo
<v Speaker 1>is he loved playing this, called it special. Now listen,
<v Speaker 1>there is a phone. There's like a sound effect in
<v Speaker 1>the middle of this song where there there's like a phone,
<v Speaker 1>like an old style dialing of the phone. Right, Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>there's a speaking part, yes, right, right, So here's the deal.
<v Speaker 1>The phone number, the uh huh that's six five nine
<v Speaker 1>eight eight nine zero.
<v Speaker 2>Does that lead anywhere?
<v Speaker 1>I don't know the area code? Okay, I've listened to
<v Speaker 1>this song ten thousand times, right, Okay, what does he say?
<v Speaker 1>Right there?
<v Speaker 2>So this is by Josh Rickman, and he says, you
<v Speaker 2>just better start sniffing your own rank subjugation Jack, because
<v Speaker 2>it's just you against your tattered libido, the bank, and
<v Speaker 2>the mortician forever man. And it wouldn't be luck if
<v Speaker 2>you could get out of life alive your own.
<v Speaker 1>That's a lot. They spit that out. He spits it
<v Speaker 1>out pretty quick, knocking on Heaven's door.
<v Speaker 6>Listen.
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to overstate this. It's one of my
<v Speaker 1>favorite songs of the nights. It's one that I keep
<v Speaker 1>coming back to. I can play this a million times
<v Speaker 1>in a row and continue to love it. It's my
<v Speaker 1>favorite song on this album. Wow, I mean it's a cover,
<v Speaker 1>but it's still the one I keep coming back to.
<v Speaker 7>Nice.
<v Speaker 2>Nice.
<v Speaker 1>You know you mentioned that this They had played this
<v Speaker 1>song a lot and it had kind of been around.
<v Speaker 1>On the B side of Welcome to the Jungle, there
<v Speaker 1>is a live version of Knocking on Heaven's Store. Oh nice,
<v Speaker 1>if you were lucky enough to have that Maxie cassette.
<v Speaker 2>I just like the word Maxie.
<v Speaker 1>So somebody asked Bob Dylan. They're like, hey, Guns and
<v Speaker 1>Roses did a song knocking on Heaven's Doore. What do
<v Speaker 1>you think. He's like, it was okay, but it's kind
<v Speaker 1>of like being an invasion of the Body Snatchers. I
<v Speaker 1>don't really know what that means, but that's what he said.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So invasion the Body Snatchers is when the people
<v Speaker 2>are replaced with soulless robots. So I don't think it
<v Speaker 2>was a compliment.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he and Slash had actually done a song together,
<v Speaker 1>so he's kind of friends with Slash.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure he's a huge fan of this.
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it doesn't sound like it.
<v Speaker 1>This reached number sixteen on the Hot Rock charts in
<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety and Adam Sandler does a great impression of
<v Speaker 1>this song.
<v Speaker 6>GoGet out and yo.
<v Speaker 1>Hurt right there, right.
<v Speaker 2>There, right, I can see that.
<v Speaker 1>We done with this one in the gospel car Yeah, okay.
<v Speaker 2>I think he stand for you me get in the
<v Speaker 2>ring Okay. And it sounds like this is a live song,
<v Speaker 2>but it's not. This chant that you have is from
<v Speaker 2>one of their live shows.
<v Speaker 1>It's really cool the Guns Spin Roses. It's not live,
<v Speaker 1>but it still sounds really neat the Guns.
<v Speaker 2>So you know the story behind the song, right, you
<v Speaker 2>tell me the story behind the song.
<v Speaker 1>Well, so Axel takes out his anger on all the
<v Speaker 1>journalists who he perceived as sliding the band. So one
<v Speaker 1>of the particular people that he calls out is Bob
<v Speaker 1>Guccioni Jr.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, from Spin magazine.
<v Speaker 1>From Spin magazine whose dad is the founder of Penthouse magazine.
<v Speaker 2>Right. Spin was kind of like this more edgy version
<v Speaker 2>of Rolling Stone Magazine. They had even said the future
<v Speaker 2>of music and they listed off three bands, one of
<v Speaker 2>which was Guns N' Roses, so like they're promoting them
<v Speaker 2>to a degree. But then after a while they did
<v Speaker 2>kind of a dirt like a mud smear thing on them,
<v Speaker 2>and to sum it all down to two words axle
<v Speaker 2>as asshole.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah he is three words.
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, Yes, I think that's pretty clear. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>So Bob Guccio and Junior in Spin magazine, they actually
<v Speaker 1>went back to Indiana and they started interviewing people in
<v Speaker 1>his past. Yeah, which he didn't appreciate.
<v Speaker 6>No.
<v Speaker 1>He also called him Bill, which is a no no
<v Speaker 1>when you're talking to right.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so do you know the rest of the story. No,
<v Speaker 2>So he actually challenged, like Bob Guccioni was like, do
<v Speaker 2>you want to actually have a fighter? And Axel was
<v Speaker 2>like yeah, yeah, yeah, until he realized that Bob Guccioni
<v Speaker 2>had been trained as a fighter for like nine years.
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh.
<v Speaker 2>Maybe not.
<v Speaker 1>I don't have time for your stupid fights anymore.
<v Speaker 2>I'm above it. Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Right.
<v Speaker 1>So, just a few guys that he mentions by name
<v Speaker 1>in the song are Andy Setcher, Hit Parator, Mick Wall
<v Speaker 1>of Kerrang, and then of course Bob Gucchann and Jane
<v Speaker 1>from Spin.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And you would think that this was an actual
<v Speaker 2>like Axuals the White Jumping, This was actually Duff that
<v Speaker 2>was like, hey, we need to write a song to
<v Speaker 2>address these problems. The song was originally called why do
<v Speaker 2>You Look at me when you hate me, which I
<v Speaker 2>can understand, like the meaning of you know, you guys
<v Speaker 2>are getting all of this business from us, so why
<v Speaker 2>are you suddenly trashing us? That doesn't make sense. But
<v Speaker 2>then it changed to get in the Ring, mf or,
<v Speaker 2>and then it just changed to get in the ring.
<v Speaker 1>Right, So this is the song like when my friends
<v Speaker 1>and I first got this album, this is the one
<v Speaker 1>we played for each other, like, oh my gosh, check
<v Speaker 1>it out. He's calling these guys out by name. It's
<v Speaker 1>calling everybody you know, f you, mf or get in
<v Speaker 1>the f and ring. But thirty years later, this, to
<v Speaker 1>me is the biggest crime on the album save one.
<v Speaker 1>And we'll talk about that at the end.
<v Speaker 2>You're saying you don't like the song.
<v Speaker 1>I like it. I think the music's good. I think
<v Speaker 1>it's got sort of fun tones to it.
<v Speaker 2>Uh huh.
<v Speaker 1>But I just find it classless, you know.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's yeah, it's petty. It is. It is definitely petty.
<v Speaker 2>But why are we surprised that guns we would be petty?
<v Speaker 2>So Mick Wall had a book called Guns N' Roses
<v Speaker 2>the Most Dangerous Band in the World, and that was
<v Speaker 2>where he did the interviews and stories about the band.
<v Speaker 2>There were claims that the real reason was an interview
<v Speaker 2>he had conducted back in nineteen ninety for Kerrang that
<v Speaker 2>included Actual's threat of harm to Vince Neil of Miley Crue.
<v Speaker 2>But the full story on that one is on our
<v Speaker 2>next song. So that song is Shotgun Blues. Okay, although
<v Speaker 2>the story behind the song is pretty interesting, I would
<v Speaker 2>get rid of this song.
<v Speaker 1>The song sucks.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but we've established you and I are not punk fans, right.
<v Speaker 2>This is the punkiest of the Guns N' Roses songs.
<v Speaker 2>I think that you can get. If you love punk,
<v Speaker 2>you probably like this song. It's not for me.
<v Speaker 1>It's not for me either. You know who does love
<v Speaker 1>this song? No Duff, and Duff is like the most
<v Speaker 1>punky of the group.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, absolutely absolutely, And we'll talk a little bit later
<v Speaker 2>about one of his idols that from the punk days
<v Speaker 2>and his inspiration behind another song. But let's talk about
<v Speaker 2>the story behind.
<v Speaker 1>This one, okay, which got.
<v Speaker 2>So Apparently vince Neil's wife met up with Izzy Stradlin
<v Speaker 2>at some point is he made some remarks to her
<v Speaker 2>that vince Neil did not like.
<v Speaker 1>That's true, Yeah, And so backstage at the video Music
<v Speaker 1>Awards in ninth ninety nine. We talked about this a
<v Speaker 1>little bit two weeks ago.
<v Speaker 2>I think yeah, we may have even mentioned it. I'm
<v Speaker 2>not sure if we did. We may have mentioned it
<v Speaker 2>on our Motley Crue episode as well.
<v Speaker 1>I think we did, Yeah, I think we did. It's
<v Speaker 1>interesting because that Video Music Awards, Don Henley had to
<v Speaker 1>play drums for Steven Adler, who was in rehab is
<v Speaker 1>he said something that Vince didn't like to his wife.
<v Speaker 1>So Vince punched is he backstage? And of course Axel
<v Speaker 1>jumps in.
<v Speaker 2>And Molly Cruz, the one that presented the award that
<v Speaker 2>Guns N' Roses won, He's like, Okay, here's your award,
<v Speaker 2>see you backstage.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And so Vince knocked him out, and then Axel said,
<v Speaker 1>let's go Vince anytime, and so Vince is like, kind
<v Speaker 1>of like Bob gets you in a junior. He's like,
<v Speaker 1>name the time, name the place, we'll put it on
<v Speaker 1>pay per view and we'll duke it out.
<v Speaker 2>I would have paid the pay per view money to
<v Speaker 2>watch that fight for Shore, I know, right. So anyway,
<v Speaker 2>so anyway, great story, not a great song.
<v Speaker 1>Great story not a great song. So this song needs
<v Speaker 1>to go like, this album is better if this song
<v Speaker 1>goes next song break down. Okay, Dan, this is the
<v Speaker 1>hidden gem on this album.
<v Speaker 2>You like this. I love this song and like, I
<v Speaker 2>didn't really know it before we started diving into this.
<v Speaker 1>This is like climbing the Guns n' Roses ladder for me.
<v Speaker 1>On best songs, their catalog come in from the cone,
<v Speaker 1>we come down from the way.
<v Speaker 6>They have a mana wong. They don't know what you mean.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I totally agree with you. Hidden gym on
<v Speaker 2>this album that I was not familiar with before we
<v Speaker 2>started doing this. I love it. I love the banjo
<v Speaker 2>which Slash didn't know how to play the banjo, so
<v Speaker 2>he just strung a banjo like guitar and it plays
<v Speaker 2>that way. This is the second song that we have
<v Speaker 2>with Whistling. It's the second song that's got that kind
<v Speaker 2>of rat tat tat like the like the Soldier march
<v Speaker 2>in it, and it's when you listen to this piano
<v Speaker 2>come in, it totally makes me think of a swinging
<v Speaker 2>country version of the piano that's in the second part
<v Speaker 2>of November Ring.
<v Speaker 1>I totally agree.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>And then at about a minute in when the guitars
<v Speaker 2>come in. I'm like, oh my gosh, this is like
<v Speaker 2>Leonard Skinner Freebird. This is fantastic. Love it, Love what
<v Speaker 2>they did with it. Great song.
<v Speaker 1>It's like southern rock. Here's the thing. You could play
<v Speaker 1>this song. You and I like to go to Silverdoff
<v Speaker 1>City and Branson. If they played this at several dollars city,
<v Speaker 1>You like to go there.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that I would like to.
<v Speaker 1>He's too cool for city.
<v Speaker 2>Oh I just.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, we've got some We got some friends
<v Speaker 1>down south now Van Allen Plexico and David Riot. These
<v Speaker 1>guys are like Alabama guys. Yeah, so down there. I
<v Speaker 1>think they have Dollywood. I went there this summer. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>they could play this at Dollywood.
<v Speaker 7>Oh yeah.
<v Speaker 1>This is a great Guns n' Roses countryfied swing. The song.
<v Speaker 5>I love it.
<v Speaker 1>The lyrics are about our relationship gone bad, which is
<v Speaker 1>almost every song Guns and Roses makes. But the guitar
<v Speaker 1>work on this, the whistling, it's it makes me happy
<v Speaker 1>to listen to this one.
<v Speaker 2>And you mentioned fan Allen Plexico, be sure and check
<v Speaker 2>out his podcast. It's on Well, he.
<v Speaker 1>Has a Van Allen Plexicode does a podcast called White
<v Speaker 1>Rocket and it's on it they cover Battle on five,
<v Speaker 1>but they also dip into the movie thing. But he's
<v Speaker 1>written some books on Auburn football. I mean, he's like
<v Speaker 1>an expert on Auburn football, A great fan.
<v Speaker 2>Love all of the interactions and the bits of wisdom
<v Speaker 2>that he gives this. I love it.
<v Speaker 4>Yes.
<v Speaker 1>Slash said that this was the most difficult song on
<v Speaker 1>the entire album to record.
<v Speaker 2>I can see that.
<v Speaker 1>I guess it's because he didn't really know how to
<v Speaker 1>play the banjo.
<v Speaker 2>Probably.
<v Speaker 1>And here's the other thing, Spin Magazine. Yeah, you know
<v Speaker 1>Bob guccien and JR. I love how they describe this song. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>this song is like Elton John singing Wanted Dead or
<v Speaker 1>Our Lives.
<v Speaker 2>Love it, love it cool, perfect captures it absolutely all right.
<v Speaker 1>This is the hidden gem for me.
<v Speaker 2>Totally agree, me too. All Right. The next song we have.
<v Speaker 1>Is called pretty Tied Up the Perils of Rock and
<v Speaker 1>Roll Decadentes.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, this is a great bit of music with some
<v Speaker 2>truly horrifying lyric.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, guys, we're gonna try and keep this one. Pg. Thirteen.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is Yeah. I don't know what to say
<v Speaker 2>about this. Great to listen to. If you don't listen
<v Speaker 2>to what the words saying.
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I really have studied the lyrics. I
<v Speaker 1>like the song, Yeah, yeah, I like the music.
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>This is written by.
<v Speaker 2>Isy Yeah, Izzy wrote this one. And this is one
<v Speaker 2>if you've got the CD or the liner notes that
<v Speaker 2>write in the middle of it. There's this very weird
<v Speaker 2>thing that's almost like a skull and crossbones, where you've
<v Speaker 2>got the crossbones, but instead of a skull, you have
<v Speaker 2>like a dismembered female, naked body with her hair being pulled.
<v Speaker 1>So Izzy tells a story. Here we go. I'm gonna
<v Speaker 1>try and keep this PG.
<v Speaker 2>Thirteen.
<v Speaker 1>All right, yeah, I go, okay, is he tells a story.
<v Speaker 1>He had a buddy named Tony and they went over
<v Speaker 1>to this girl's house. Her name is Margo, and she
<v Speaker 1>was just hanging out with him, and she said, hey,
<v Speaker 1>you guys wanted tequila? Sure, And they walked into the
<v Speaker 1>next room and they saw a man tied up like
<v Speaker 1>duct taped to the wall, wearing women's underwear with an
<v Speaker 1>onion in his mouth, and they're like, what is what
<v Speaker 1>is going on here?
<v Speaker 2>I don't think I even would have gotten the words
<v Speaker 2>out of my mouth. Oh, I'm sorry, this is the
<v Speaker 2>wrong house.
<v Speaker 1>Goodbye, see later. I have no interest in this. I
<v Speaker 1>will be leaving now.
<v Speaker 4>Wow.
<v Speaker 1>She said that's a client and that's all I'm going
<v Speaker 1>to say about that.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>The interesting thing about this song, slash has stated that
<v Speaker 1>this song was written at at Izzy's house okay, before
<v Speaker 1>the band went to Chicago in eighty nine. According to
<v Speaker 1>slash Is, he was so high in Heroin that night
<v Speaker 1>he made a sitar out of a symbol, a broomstick
<v Speaker 1>and some strings.
<v Speaker 4>Wow.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So it's interesting though. This one has a gitar too.
<v Speaker 2>Remember in the black album we Have Wherever I May Roam? Right,
<v Speaker 2>You've got two albums that were comparing both with this
<v Speaker 2>random citar in the in the middle of the album.
<v Speaker 1>Good Call, Good Call. That's awesome. Yeah, how do you
<v Speaker 1>like this one? Mixed feelings?
<v Speaker 2>Good music? I don't. I could believe it because the
<v Speaker 2>rest of it's too creepy for me.
<v Speaker 1>You got me all interested?
<v Speaker 2>Now do you want any what the lyrics aren't She's
<v Speaker 2>pretty tied up, hanging upside down. She's pretty tied up.
<v Speaker 2>You can ride her. She's pretty tied up, hanging upside down.
<v Speaker 2>I can't tell you she's the right one. Okay, moving
<v Speaker 2>on already to a song called Locomotive.
<v Speaker 1>A great musical intro to this one that's kind of
<v Speaker 1>funky metal, right, Yeah, I love the bassline guitar comes in.
<v Speaker 2>It's strong. So this one was one that Slash had
<v Speaker 2>written the music for, and Axel has some trouble coming
<v Speaker 2>up with lyrics.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Did you hear what he said to his manager about this?
<v Speaker 1>He calls and complaints. He's like, how am I supposed
<v Speaker 1>to write lyrics to songs like this mean? And he
<v Speaker 1>named this one specifically it's musically intricate, but where did
<v Speaker 1>the words go?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? This was Doug Goldstein, and Doug Goldstein's response to
<v Speaker 2>him was, well, that's your job. Actual I managed the band.
<v Speaker 1>Can't help you.
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, you're the singer of Guns N' Roses. Let me
<v Speaker 2>let me check my job listing here song song right, Nope,
<v Speaker 2>not on, are not gonna help you.
<v Speaker 1>Slash writes music, you write the words. That's how it works. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>So for me. The interesting thing about this Slash recalls
<v Speaker 1>writing this song and coma kind of working on them
<v Speaker 1>both at the same time, around the time that they
<v Speaker 1>filmed the video for Patients. Okay, and I looked it
<v Speaker 1>up and the date that they filmed the video for
<v Speaker 1>Patients Valentine's Day nineteen eighty nine. Pretty cool.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what were you doing on Valentine's Day nineteen eighty
<v Speaker 2>nine try and solve the mysteries of the Broadclast? Probably
<v Speaker 2>probably listen to a little fifty one to fifty.
<v Speaker 1>Maybe my go to at that time was I'll be
<v Speaker 1>there for you a bunch of.
<v Speaker 2>I love it all right.
<v Speaker 1>So there's some interesting lyrics in this song. This is
<v Speaker 1>the only song that mentions the words use your illusion.
<v Speaker 2>What does that mean, Jason?
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't mean anything, right. It just says you can
<v Speaker 1>use your illusion, let it take you where it may.
<v Speaker 1>We live and learn, and then sometimes it's best to
<v Speaker 1>walk away. It's deep, not really, no, no, this is
<v Speaker 1>about a relationship going bad. Some people thought that this
<v Speaker 1>was directed at Stephanie Seymour.
<v Speaker 2>Down great and.
<v Speaker 6>Look them out?
<v Speaker 2>Okay.
<v Speaker 1>You know we talked in the previous song about is
<v Speaker 1>he walking into a room and discovering a naked man?
<v Speaker 1>Doug Goldstein, the manager for guns Roast, we talked about
<v Speaker 1>last week how the first time he met Stephanie Seymour,
<v Speaker 1>he opened the door and she was standing there.
<v Speaker 2>Buck naked.
<v Speaker 1>That's a little more pleasant than the than the guy to.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, a little hair hair more pleasant.
<v Speaker 1>So Locomotive is one of those songs that comes up
<v Speaker 1>when people talk about use allusion to like the off
<v Speaker 1>the beaten track songs, and I get it.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's definitely a quality song. Great.
<v Speaker 1>The guitar work on this is really strong. It's funky,
<v Speaker 1>it's upbeat. I like it. I know. Our buddy Russ
<v Speaker 1>from the Infectious Grooves podcast mentioned this one specifically as
<v Speaker 1>one that he loves.
<v Speaker 2>From this album.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, moving on to a song called so Fine.
<v Speaker 2>So when I mentioned punk earlier, this is the song
<v Speaker 2>I was referring to. Surprised.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, because.
<v Speaker 2>It's not punk at all, right, it's not remotely punk,
<v Speaker 2>but in the liner notes and the lyrics that are
<v Speaker 2>on the paper here on this album, this is written
<v Speaker 2>by Duff and it is dedicated to Johnny Thunders. So
<v Speaker 2>Johnny Thunders was a guy who was a leader in
<v Speaker 2>the punk movement back in the early seventies. He was
<v Speaker 2>with New York Dolls and then he went on to
<v Speaker 2>another group called the Heartbreakers, not Tom Petty, different Heartbreakers,
<v Speaker 2>and it was sometimes called Johnny Thunders and the Heartbreakers,
<v Speaker 2>but Duff has dedicated this song to him. He died
<v Speaker 2>April twenty third, nineteen ninety one. Most people would guess
<v Speaker 2>it was probably drug related, but there's a lot of
<v Speaker 2>mystery surrounding his death, like d d ramone of the Ramones,
<v Speaker 2>talks about in his book, calling and saying he got
<v Speaker 2>involved with some bastards who ripped him off for his
<v Speaker 2>methodonie support and gave him LSD and then murdered him.
<v Speaker 2>And so I mean, it's this thing that nobody's looked into, like,
<v Speaker 2>it's very, very strange. He had a neighbor called Willie
<v Speaker 2>Deville who when the people started calling him because he
<v Speaker 2>lived next door, he made up story. He said, well,
<v Speaker 2>he died with his guitar in his hand, but he
<v Speaker 2>said that was completely not true. He came out in
<v Speaker 2>the shape of a you like he was.
<v Speaker 8>He was a bad shape, like the rigamortis made his
<v Speaker 8>body as you. Yeah, not a good picture, not with
<v Speaker 8>the guitar, not with his guitar in his hand. Okay,
<v Speaker 8>So that's what this song is about.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how he looks so fine when he's
<v Speaker 2>in the shape of a you riga mortis, But I
<v Speaker 2>think it's really about when he was alive and the
<v Speaker 2>inspiration that he was to deaf in his punk days.
<v Speaker 1>That's nice. I've got a funny story about this song.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's go with that.
<v Speaker 1>Let's you want to on air funny story? Yeah, okay.
<v Speaker 1>So one of the crew members, this guy's name was
<v Speaker 1>Craig Duswald, right, yes, and his job was to put
<v Speaker 1>the words on the monitors for Axel in case he
<v Speaker 1>forgot the words or got lost or whatever.
<v Speaker 2>I loved this story.
<v Speaker 1>So normally Slash would yell out the song title to
<v Speaker 1>him off stage. So the night that they played this,
<v Speaker 1>Slash yelled.
<v Speaker 2>Used to lover Right.
<v Speaker 1>So he puts the words to use to lover up
<v Speaker 1>on the screen. But when the song starts, he doesn't
<v Speaker 1>recognize it as used to lover right. So he's scanning
<v Speaker 1>his song list in his brain, like what is this song?
<v Speaker 1>I don't understand it. And he's like, oh crap, oh
<v Speaker 1>my gosh, this is not used to.
<v Speaker 2>Love right, but used to love her still on the teleprompter, right,
<v Speaker 2>And so he's like, actually, is gonna freaking kill me
<v Speaker 2>if I don't get the words up here? Yeah, he
<v Speaker 2>hears him start singing, and he's like, wait, he's not
<v Speaker 2>singing these words.
<v Speaker 1>And so he's like, well, that's okay, I'll just wait
<v Speaker 1>for the chorus. There's no chorus in the song, so
<v Speaker 1>he starts to panic and Slash is cracking up.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, all Craig can think is okay, when they
<v Speaker 2>fire me after this, are they gonna fly me home?
<v Speaker 2>Or do I have to fly my own dollar?
<v Speaker 1>I like this song. It's it's got a sweet feel
<v Speaker 1>to it. It's nice. It's not my favorite, but I
<v Speaker 1>like it.
<v Speaker 2>It's it's good. Okay.
<v Speaker 1>Moving on to maybe the masterpiece of this album. HM,
<v Speaker 1>this song is called stretched.
<v Speaker 6>I don't nobody have a dollar by how now?
<v Speaker 2>Okay?
<v Speaker 1>So d this is a musical symphony to the ears.
<v Speaker 1>This is like a Guns n' Roses November Rain like masterpiece.
<v Speaker 2>I could see this as like a song in a
<v Speaker 2>musical theater like on Broadway, like this is this is
<v Speaker 2>not anything like any not only Guns n' Roses song,
<v Speaker 2>but anything anybody else was doing at the time. It
<v Speaker 2>is more melodic, there's no chorus. There is so much
<v Speaker 2>emotion that he's got going on in this song, right,
<v Speaker 2>I could totally see it being you know part of
<v Speaker 2>Les miz or something. You know? This is this. This
<v Speaker 2>is an emotional, powerful, musically complex song.
<v Speaker 1>There's multiple piano solos, there's multiple guitar solos. Axel wrote
<v Speaker 1>this song when he and Aaron Everley were getting their
<v Speaker 1>marriage annulled. Oh I mean you get the title Estranged.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's where you get this emotional subtext to all
<v Speaker 2>of these fronts and moans even in this song. It's
<v Speaker 2>truly amazing. Okay, I'm gonna tell you something that's gonna
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna it's gonna blow your mind. You're ready. Yeah, Okay,
<v Speaker 2>I told you I wasn't really listening to this kind
<v Speaker 2>of music in ninety ninety one. Right, I've never seen
<v Speaker 2>this video.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So the video is the real story here, Okay, Okay, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I mean I say that the video is a major
<v Speaker 1>part of the story.
<v Speaker 2>Okay.
<v Speaker 1>So you have this beautiful, complex, masterfully done song and
<v Speaker 1>then you match it up with a video. Remember we
<v Speaker 1>said last November, Rain's budget was one point four million,
<v Speaker 1>which made it one of the most expensive videos ever made.
<v Speaker 1>Estrange costs four million dollars. Holy crap to make the video. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>I need to watch this let's we're gonna take a moment.
<v Speaker 1>He's gonna watch this video and then we're gonna come
<v Speaker 1>back and talk about it. While I'm looking this updep
<v Speaker 1>Chris Cornell of Soundguard. Keep in mind, Soundgarden actually opened
<v Speaker 1>for Guns N' Roses on the Usual Lusion tour, So
<v Speaker 1>this is not somebody who's not familiar with these guys.
<v Speaker 1>They're not friends with them.
<v Speaker 2>Right.
<v Speaker 1>He took issue with the level of decadence on display
<v Speaker 1>in this video. Okay, with actual in particular. He's like,
<v Speaker 1>who does he think he's appealing to other than Donald Trump? Right?
<v Speaker 1>So there's there's scenes of him at his house. It's
<v Speaker 1>his actual house showing off as wealth. They rented a
<v Speaker 1>freaking tanker, like an oil tanker, and there's dolphins and
<v Speaker 1>all this stuff. He said, I was offended by it.
<v Speaker 1>It takes a lot for me to get offended when
<v Speaker 1>who gives a crap about all this stuff and yet
<v Speaker 1>Axel puts it on display.
<v Speaker 2>So it's interesting that you bring up Chris Cornell because
<v Speaker 2>I didn't realize the close connection. Soundgarden opened up for
<v Speaker 2>Guns N' Roses for a large part of their tour, right, right,
<v Speaker 2>And he formed a friendship with basically everybody in the
<v Speaker 2>band except Axel. He said, you never saw him, He said,
<v Speaker 2>he only remembers actually seeing him like in the hallway
<v Speaker 2>one time, and it was this weird like he's dressed
<v Speaker 2>in like this spandex short short spandex and he's like
<v Speaker 2>hey man and goes by and he's like, I felt
<v Speaker 2>like I was in a comic book. It was so bizarre. Wow.
<v Speaker 2>And so I watched, you know, I learned this literally,
<v Speaker 2>you know, listening to this as I'm driving I go
<v Speaker 2>to academy to buy some sports stuff for my kids.
<v Speaker 2>And as I walk in the door, the song that's
<v Speaker 2>playing is Patience, as covered by Chris Cornell, and I
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh wow, this is altol. So if you
<v Speaker 2>haven't heard that version of Patients, Chris Cornell's beautiful voice
<v Speaker 2>and does something different with the melody. It's truly a
<v Speaker 2>beautiful song. You have to check out. Let's listen to that.
<v Speaker 1>A little clip of that right here.
<v Speaker 9>So take it so little work itself fine only it's
<v Speaker 9>just a little paces.
<v Speaker 7>Searching out.
<v Speaker 6>Make it so we will come again, Finn.
<v Speaker 7>Only little place.
<v Speaker 2>Let's see.
<v Speaker 1>I love it all right. The check out the video,
<v Speaker 1>The strange here.
<v Speaker 4>The way the day.
<v Speaker 1>All right, you've seen the video, now what do you think?
<v Speaker 2>Okay, favorite part was when the dolphin came swimming out
<v Speaker 2>of the back of the jumbo jets. What the heck
<v Speaker 2>was that?
<v Speaker 10>Dude?
<v Speaker 1>It's just excess, you know, it's just rock and roll excess.
<v Speaker 2>James Cameron did not direct that video. You know how.
<v Speaker 2>I know how's that because I could not see four
<v Speaker 2>million dollars on the screen, That's right, I could. I
<v Speaker 2>couldn't see a book fifty on the screen. That was terrible.
<v Speaker 1>I think they rented that tanker, which costs like one
<v Speaker 1>hundred grand an hour, yes, and then that they had
<v Speaker 1>the like the Coastguard helicopter.
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, and what was the beginning with the
<v Speaker 2>ambulance coming in at the same time as the swat.
<v Speaker 1>Team in standard two by two formation and the quarterback.
<v Speaker 2>What was that? That was terrible. As much as I
<v Speaker 2>love this song, that video was a steaming pile of
<v Speaker 2>doo doo.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just rock and roll Lexis, you know,
<v Speaker 1>it's terrible.
<v Speaker 2>This song, though, Terror.
<v Speaker 1>Is incredible, Slash really doing his part to make this
<v Speaker 1>song epic.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the guitar is good. Slash on a dolly going
<v Speaker 2>down the sidewalk next to the rainbow bar is a
<v Speaker 2>bit odd, but whatever.
<v Speaker 1>Hey, by the way, that beautiful house in Malibu, but
<v Speaker 1>you see that's Axel Rose's actual house.
<v Speaker 2>Or was right?
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?
<v Speaker 2>I like this Converse shoe.
<v Speaker 1>They were cool. They actually had an axle on the
<v Speaker 1>on the rear of this of the shoot. This is
<v Speaker 1>the best song on the album.
<v Speaker 2>I disagree, but it's good.
<v Speaker 1>My favorite is still Knocking on Heaven's Door, but this
<v Speaker 1>is the best one. Okay, all right, we're done with
<v Speaker 1>the Strange.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we can move on. Oh but we need to
<v Speaker 2>know that this is part of a trilogy, right, thank you.
<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about that.
<v Speaker 2>So we have November Rain, Don't Cry, which both are
<v Speaker 2>on usually one one, and then we have this one,
<v Speaker 2>which comes along and usually your illusion to Now, both
<v Speaker 2>albums came out at the same time. Videos were not
<v Speaker 2>done at the same time, right, And you noted that
<v Speaker 2>there's a notable missing character in a Strange studio.
<v Speaker 1>Right, if you've seen part one of the trilogy, Don't Cry,
<v Speaker 1>you have Stephanie Seymour all over that part two November Rain,
<v Speaker 1>she's all over that actually attend her funeral, and then
<v Speaker 1>she is supposed to be in part three estranged, but
<v Speaker 1>they had broken up, and so she was absolutely.
<v Speaker 2>Ironic that they had become estranged at that point. Yes, yes,
<v Speaker 2>I also really like the dictionary notes that we would get.
<v Speaker 2>It's like a pop up video, that's right.
<v Speaker 1>And I think at the very end of the song
<v Speaker 1>it says lose your illusions.
<v Speaker 2>Right, And I was distracted by the dolphin sitting next
<v Speaker 2>to actual in the back rope. What a weird.
<v Speaker 10>Wow.
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's move on to a more fun song.
<v Speaker 1>The next song.
<v Speaker 10>Yeah you could be mine?
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm thinking about Brad Moore in the back of
<v Speaker 2>the theater rocking out to this song and just waiting
<v Speaker 2>to pull the last hand off. This is such a
<v Speaker 2>good song and I just a all want to throw
<v Speaker 2>this out there. Brad mentioned that his fifteen year old
<v Speaker 2>son is also listening to us, which we deliberately make
<v Speaker 2>ourselves family friendly so that you can listen with your
<v Speaker 2>teenage kid. But Brad Moore says his fifteen year olds
<v Speaker 2>listened to us, and he's friends with James Buckley's daughter
<v Speaker 2>who is also in that age range. And I saw
<v Speaker 2>on Facebook that she went as her favorite decade to school,
<v Speaker 2>and she was decked out.
<v Speaker 1>In eighties year she wore a purple Raine shirt to school.
<v Speaker 2>Love It, Love It.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if we can take credit for that,
<v Speaker 1>but we did run the Purple Raine episodes this summer.
<v Speaker 11>Right, Okay, let's talk about you Could Be Mine.
<v Speaker 1>This was in the Terminator Too movie. Arnold Schwarzenegger actively
<v Speaker 1>campaigned for these guys personally to contribute a song Terminator two.
<v Speaker 2>He invited them to his house to finalize the deal.
<v Speaker 2>Let's we want this song to be a part of
<v Speaker 2>the movie.
<v Speaker 1>The Governator called them up. He gave them each leather
<v Speaker 1>jackets that had bullet holes in them, just like you
<v Speaker 1>see in the movie. Ah sweet, And he actually personally
<v Speaker 1>selected this song. Now, I wish I knew more about
<v Speaker 1>the selection process. I don't know whether they gave him. Hey,
<v Speaker 1>here's ten songs, what do you think is the best?
<v Speaker 1>But he chose you could be Mine. This song was
<v Speaker 1>written in nineteen eighty seven during the Appetite for Destruction Days.
<v Speaker 1>So this was originally written by Izzy about a woman
<v Speaker 1>named Angela Nicoletti. She was a girlfriend who ended up
<v Speaker 1>marrying the lead guitarist for Hanoi rocks.
<v Speaker 2>Oh right, that we talked about before.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, the song as it was originally written was called
<v Speaker 1>Cocaine Talking. Okay, Okay. Now Douve gave an interview like
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen eighty eight talking about this song Cocaine Talking.
<v Speaker 1>He's like, people think we're druggies, but we don't do drugs. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>the only thing were cocaine users. Because there's a song
<v Speaker 1>called cocaine Talking. Well, that song became you could be mine.
<v Speaker 2>So the lyric with your bitch slap rapping and your
<v Speaker 2>cocaine tongue you get nothing done that appears in the
<v Speaker 2>inner sleeve of Appetite for Destruction.
<v Speaker 1>I was hoping to blow your mind with that.
<v Speaker 2>I am sorry. I know it's it's tragic, but if
<v Speaker 2>you look at the liner notes for use your Illusion,
<v Speaker 2>it's got ain't hit.
<v Speaker 1>Fun, which they later play on the Spaghetti Incident.
<v Speaker 2>Yep, this one in the In the lyrics, they do
<v Speaker 2>a special thanks to Bernie Topin and Elton John, and
<v Speaker 2>then they have a lie in the song that says
<v Speaker 2>we've seen that movie too. This is a reference to
<v Speaker 2>the Elton John song I've seen that movie Too from
<v Speaker 2>the album Goodbye yellbrick ro.
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, okay, cool. So you mentioned that line bitschlap
<v Speaker 1>rabbin and cocaine tongue and get nothing done was in
<v Speaker 1>the liner notes for Guns n' Roses first album, Appetite
<v Speaker 1>for Destruction.
<v Speaker 4>Huh.
<v Speaker 1>You should have seen my friend's eyes fall out of
<v Speaker 1>his head when I pointed that out back in ninety one.
<v Speaker 1>So we're sitting around as people used to do, right,
<v Speaker 1>and we'd pop in our CDs and we were listening
<v Speaker 1>to it. He's like, what is he saying? There? As
<v Speaker 1>soon as I spelled it out what he was saying,
<v Speaker 1>his eyes got big. He's like, that's in the line
<v Speaker 1>or rose for appetite.
<v Speaker 2>There you go, yeah, that's awesome. So you want to
<v Speaker 2>talk about the video on this one? Sure, So we
<v Speaker 2>of course get Terminator all over the place, right, But
<v Speaker 2>in the video, the terminator is after Guns and Roses.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, he's terminating excellent.
<v Speaker 2>So shows him. It shows a bunch of clips from
<v Speaker 2>the movie, of course, and then it shows him at
<v Speaker 2>the concert and he's in the front row, and then
<v Speaker 2>he goes backstage and he's doing his little you know,
<v Speaker 2>computer analysis on everybody and basically ends up with a
<v Speaker 2>decision waste of Ammo.
<v Speaker 1>You know what song this replaced in the Terminator. The
<v Speaker 1>song that was originally in that spot was I Want
<v Speaker 1>to be Sedated by the remotes, and when Arnold was
<v Speaker 1>able to recruit guns n' Roses and get them to
<v Speaker 1>produce something quickly enough to put in the movie, they
<v Speaker 1>replaced it with you Could Be Mine. Good cool, Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>great song, fun song. I associated a lot with Terminator two.
<v Speaker 1>Flashback to our Terminator two episode that we did this
<v Speaker 1>summer versus Terminator one on Let's move on. Okay, okay,
<v Speaker 1>So this brings us to Don't Cry, the alternate.
<v Speaker 4>Version yet.
<v Speaker 2>Now, Russ mentioned that he liked the lyrics better in
<v Speaker 2>this version than in the version from usual Earls.
<v Speaker 1>One right, what do you think? I don't really care
<v Speaker 1>because I listened to music. It is different. It does
<v Speaker 1>strike my ear differently. I think I got to stick
<v Speaker 1>with the one I'm more familiar with, So I'm I'm
<v Speaker 1>going to take the one off USUALLYS one. But I
<v Speaker 1>do think it's fascinating how Axel came up with this.
<v Speaker 1>He said, Hey, guys, there's something happening in my brain
<v Speaker 1>when you play Don't Cry. I've got these words appearing
<v Speaker 1>in my head so roll tape, and he just riffed
<v Speaker 1>these lyrics and the music is the same from this
<v Speaker 1>beautiful songs. I love them both. It's the same song.
<v Speaker 1>It's just different lyrics. What do you think?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm with you. I like the one that I'm
<v Speaker 2>used to, which is off of usually Illusion one, but
<v Speaker 2>this is still scrat It's a beautiful song. Beautiful song
<v Speaker 2>is a beautiful song on there twice this one.
<v Speaker 6>That's right.
<v Speaker 1>I'm waiting for the alternate to h November Ring. Okay.
<v Speaker 1>The last song on Usual Lusion two HU is called
<v Speaker 1>my World you want to seven.
<v Speaker 5>And five World.
<v Speaker 10>It's just stay up the place in the real world.
<v Speaker 6>How many songs.
<v Speaker 1>Can't show what the crap I want to?
<v Speaker 2>Is this? This is their attempt at rap? Gangster rap?
<v Speaker 2>Is that what this is?
<v Speaker 1>The story is is that Axel was into nine inch
<v Speaker 1>Nails and progressive rock and it sounds like rap. And
<v Speaker 1>you know, n w A and body Count had been
<v Speaker 1>on the tour with them, so maybe they had some influence.
<v Speaker 1>I don't really know. It's just he's weird, dude.
<v Speaker 2>It it doesn't belong on this album, right.
<v Speaker 1>Axel finished this in three hours he was on mushrooms
<v Speaker 1>when he did it, so you know that could be
<v Speaker 1>a factor. Sure, sure, so listen to this. This is
<v Speaker 1>so how crazy ac is?
<v Speaker 4>Right?
<v Speaker 1>Axel believes that Duff actually likes the song. Duff has
<v Speaker 1>said I like the song. He thinks that Slash just
<v Speaker 1>said that, so Axel would put it on the album
<v Speaker 1>and then people would hate it. It's the double secret
<v Speaker 1>probation thing. Okay, is he hated this and in fact,
<v Speaker 1>he didn't even know it was going to be on
<v Speaker 1>the album until the albums were like printed and handed
<v Speaker 1>to him. And when he listened, he's like, what the
<v Speaker 1>F is this? How did this get on there?
<v Speaker 2>Right? I'll see you guys later.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this has never been performed live and this is
<v Speaker 1>considered a completely Axel song and scene. Okay, this song
<v Speaker 1>is awful. Needs to go.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I did slease you that. I love. I love
<v Speaker 2>bands who are smart enough to tempole their songs put
<v Speaker 2>a great finish on it, and they totally watched this one.
<v Speaker 1>I'm a Rocket Queen is a great finish to appetite.
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So let's talk black versus. Use your allusion to
<v Speaker 1>one versus, use your allusion two. Rank them one, two, three,
<v Speaker 1>Race st Go.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm a lot more torn than I thought I
<v Speaker 2>would be, right, I like it's coming into this. I'm like,
<v Speaker 2>without hesitation, black love it. Okay, I can't. You can't
<v Speaker 2>beat it. Okay. I listened to it over and over
<v Speaker 2>and over again. I had forgotten how good use your
<v Speaker 2>Allusion two is. It's really really good, and so I
<v Speaker 2>got to look at it here and I got to say, Okay,
<v Speaker 2>civil War huge winner, Yesterday's really dang good. Knocking on
<v Speaker 2>Heaven's door huge. It doesn't make it. It's close, it's
<v Speaker 2>a lot closer than I thought. But I've got to say,
<v Speaker 2>top album of the three has to be Black. User
<v Speaker 2>Allusion two is a close second. User Allusion one is
<v Speaker 2>a distant third.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's fair. I think I think that's fair. And
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad that you that we move the needle for
<v Speaker 1>you a little bit, for sure. Okay, So here's how
<v Speaker 1>I rank them.
<v Speaker 2>If I'm walking out the door, I'm going on a
<v Speaker 2>road trip, I can grab one of these.
<v Speaker 1>My first choice is Usual Lusion two.
<v Speaker 4>Okay.
<v Speaker 1>It's diverse, it's beautiful, it rocks, there's so many great
<v Speaker 1>songs on it. It's just it really works for me.
<v Speaker 1>Next one is the Black album. Side one of the
<v Speaker 1>Black album is all Killer, no Filler. There are some
<v Speaker 1>songs on the backside that aren't as good to me,
<v Speaker 1>but there's so many wonderful, beautiful, heavy melodic metallica songs.
<v Speaker 1>And then, like you usual Illusion one is kind of
<v Speaker 1>a distant third.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>We reached out to our buddy Brando who runs the
<v Speaker 1>Appetite for Distortion podcast and it's just a guns and
<v Speaker 1>Roses podcast, and so we asked him to weigh in
<v Speaker 1>what he thinks about the User Illusion albums, and here's
<v Speaker 1>what he had to say.
<v Speaker 12>September seventeenth, nineteen ninety one. Where was I when User
<v Speaker 12>Illusion one and two came out? Was I at Tower
<v Speaker 12>Records midnight ready to buy them? Well, if I was
<v Speaker 12>old enough, I would have. I was eight, so probably
<v Speaker 12>seeing Secret of the Ooze and Nature Turtles two movie
<v Speaker 12>for the lyteenth time, asking my parents to take me
<v Speaker 12>to that. So I was too young. But as soon
<v Speaker 12>as I was cognizant of Guns and Roses and I
<v Speaker 12>saw especially November Rain, specifically November Rain an MTV, it
<v Speaker 12>changed my life forever. And as soon as I can
<v Speaker 12>buy my own CDs. You bet I bought User Illusion
<v Speaker 12>one first. I couldn't afford too right away because one
<v Speaker 12>had November Rain. These are albums I listened to well
<v Speaker 12>thirty years later, and it bothers me when people say
<v Speaker 12>it should have been one record. No way, for a
<v Speaker 12>variety of reasons. If you chip away at anything that
<v Speaker 12>these records had, it takes away from the exact reason
<v Speaker 12>why we're still talking about it thirty years later. Even
<v Speaker 12>My World, yes, even My World. My world is a
<v Speaker 12>precursor to Chinese democracy. Think about that one. But it's
<v Speaker 12>a it's a perfect road trip soundtrack. It has aged beautifully,
<v Speaker 12>it really has. From the artwork, each song could mean
<v Speaker 12>something to you different at different times of your life.
<v Speaker 12>Guns of Rosies, Use Your Illusion too. There are no
<v Speaker 12>other records that we're going to talk about in another
<v Speaker 12>thirty years.
<v Speaker 2>Think about that.
<v Speaker 12>If you're like me thirty eight years old, I'll be
<v Speaker 12>talking about Use Your Illusion one and two when I'm
<v Speaker 12>sixty eight old. That huh, But I'm only sixty eight,
<v Speaker 12>you know what I mean, young and hard only twenty eight.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 12>If you if you know the records, you know what
<v Speaker 12>my terrible joke is about. Because brilliant albums, and Axel
<v Speaker 12>famously said in one of his interviews to Kurt Loder
<v Speaker 12>that he wanted to bury Appetite, that he wanted to
<v Speaker 12>go through use your Illusion one and two with a
<v Speaker 12>fine tooth comb. I think he did that. He went
<v Speaker 12>through it with a fine tooth comb. And I think
<v Speaker 12>as a whole, use your illusion one and two, whatever
<v Speaker 12>you prefer, as a whole, I think he buried Appetite.
<v Speaker 2>And Mike Drop. He came strong with that, didn't he?
<v Speaker 2>It was strong. Yeah, I want to kill Appetite for
<v Speaker 2>destruction and it did. There you go, I mean he
<v Speaker 2>mentioned and a few things in there. I mean he
<v Speaker 2>called it life changing, you know, November Rain one of
<v Speaker 2>his favorite songs of all time, and that my world
<v Speaker 2>is something that should be cherished and included. It's pretty strong. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I love it. I love the strong take. I don't
<v Speaker 2>know that I agree with everything that he said, but
<v Speaker 2>I surely liked the way that he said. It's pretty awesome.
<v Speaker 1>Brando, Thank you very much. If you guys like guns
<v Speaker 1>n' Roses, you need to check out his podcast, Appetite
<v Speaker 1>for Distortion. He's a big guns n' Roses guy, and
<v Speaker 1>we asked him on as a g n R expert, Brando,
<v Speaker 1>thank you very much.
<v Speaker 2>Here's the one thing that I will say that I
<v Speaker 2>totally agree with. This will be an album that we're
<v Speaker 2>still listening to thirty years from now.
<v Speaker 1>I think you're right too.
<v Speaker 2>I think you're lute.
<v Speaker 1>November Rain is time less.
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, Thanks very much man. That was great.
<v Speaker 1>Thanks Brando. Now, we would definitely want to hear from
<v Speaker 1>our listeners. Where do you guys rank these three?
<v Speaker 2>Right? And you mentioned this. You mentioned this, so if
<v Speaker 2>you took the twelve best on user Illusion one and
<v Speaker 2>two and put that against the black album, so I think,
<v Speaker 2>I mean this is I don't want to delve too
<v Speaker 2>deeply into this, but we've got to have dust and Bones, right,
<v Speaker 2>We've got to have Live and Let Die. We've got
<v Speaker 2>to have probably both versions of Don't Cry. I would
<v Speaker 2>pick Double Talking Jive certainly November Rain. A lot of
<v Speaker 2>people would say The Garden, and then of course you've
<v Speaker 2>got Civil War Yesterday is knocking to Heaven's door, Locomotive Estranged,
<v Speaker 2>and you've got to finish the album with you could
<v Speaker 2>be mine. Yeah, absolutely, that's a really strong album. If
<v Speaker 2>you took the greatest hits. Of these two, I would
<v Speaker 2>have to say that Guns N' Roses beats out Black Album.
<v Speaker 1>Slam Donk, I'm spiking the football on that one. The
<v Speaker 1>twelve best songs from Use Your Illusion that album is
<v Speaker 1>better than the Black Album.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree. Tell us what you think, guys. Check
<v Speaker 2>us out on Twitter at Shirley Podcast. Check out our
<v Speaker 2>Facebook page. We're constantly putting stuff up there just to
<v Speaker 2>be silly, but also some good questions and don't forget
<v Speaker 2>to leave a review. Ask us any question you want
<v Speaker 2>if we will answer it on our next episode. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>another great take. There's so much smart stuff going on here.
<v Speaker 1>Branda, thank you for taking the time to do that
<v Speaker 1>for us. They run a great podcast over there, Appetite
<v Speaker 1>for Distortion For you Denzi Roses fans.
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<v Speaker 2>be hitting m versus Silence of the Lamps. M is
<v Speaker 2>a movie from nineteen thirty one. This is definitely the
<v Speaker 2>oldest movie we've ever covered, right, but it's fantastic. It's
<v Speaker 2>part of a Ozzy Osbourne video Mister Tinkertrain, which we covered.
<v Speaker 2>That's how we came across it. Yeah, we think it
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