Joe and Jada - BEST OF MAY: Tupac & Biggie stories, Jada's iconic Verzuz, Joe's courtside Knicks seats

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Speaker 1: In the comments, people want to know how we got to this, how we how we how this show came about?

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Speaker 2: Well, if we do, we want to tell the truth. Of course we wanted to tell the truth well before any other rappers was doing sports shows or whatever the thing be. And Jada, it's true, it was we were supposed to do a sports show. Also do a sports show long time ago, a couple of years ago. So this idea came up five years of record. I don't know if it's before every other one. You're taking it, you take it, you're taking it.

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Speaker 1: So were that No, no, all right, I don't know if somebody gonna say.

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Speaker 2: Have you got to stand? Yeah? Did you could come the show? Listen?

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Speaker 3: Listen.

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Speaker 2: What I'm saying is this show has been talked about were supposed to get?

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Speaker 1: Do you know it's a guy since we're talking about that as a guy who think what's my man name?

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Speaker 2: And somebody that think we stole this already? Don't do that. It's not a hit if you don't get somebody. If somebody know I'm upping my lawsuit ship up, like you know they got lawsuit light insurance. Well, it's so much the time I need lawsuit insurance. You know you need lawsuit insurance. I'm not bullshitting you. I'm upping my ship up because it's just lawsuit mania. Like you're right, this ship out of control right now. Like you know, somebody thinks we stole their idea. We might as well not answer that question, right because this ship out of control. Tell me about lawyer. Let me tell you something. I've been watching, you know, everybody to do what they want to do, right, But I've been watching even Joe Schmoe shows with twenty four views and things like that, and they just all like they mad that we get into the bag and they're like, oh, Joe Jaya, they I'm looking at him, Joe Schmoe. These guys they got two cousins watching them. Ye, no, they got two cousins in the aren't watching them. And they over here like that Yo, this that they trying to get clickbait off of us. We came out to get. You knew we was coming right anywhere in this business of entertainment, music, art movie. If it's a bag there, we're coming. If it's if it's rubber duckies, we're coming for the bag. And so you gotta know we got we done? Did this? I asked Jada. He said, authenticity. We're gonna talk about our perspective and what's going on in life, and some people seem to like it. We went number two in the country the first time off of one EP. I'm walking around hall them, I'm walking around the Bronx. They coming up to me. They loving the show. They love what we do. You know, it's room for everybody, right, It's room for everybody, even to Joe Schmoes. One day you might be the biggest in the game. As of right now. Trains coming, Train is coming, baby. That's what I was trying to tell you what I was playing you that saw the train is coming. Favoring the trade, I said, y'all's there's nowhere else to look. I always think about the late great DJ Clark Kit super produced. That's the piece some of King just God's favorite. You know, this guy was the best in the world. He passed away, But I always think about what he said, cause you know, he did it like he was cool with Biggie jay Z, like he put them on and so started with cool. Hurk. He's seen his own ship. He wasn't that old man. He wasn't.

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Speaker 1: He's one of the cool Herks. Original DJ Superman Clarking was down with cool Urk. That's how fall ego about.

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Speaker 2: I met DJ Callen and DJ Nasty at a cool at a clock him battle. He had a battle and we came up. That's how I meant call it online around flow Joe time. And so he said that Biggie and jay Z both his mans and Biggie would be like, yo, why you say jay Z? But he used to tell Biggie that jay Z is better than right, and Biggie would be like, how you think he nicer than me? He'd be like, yo, because you're a rapper. He's in them C He's like a poet. He could you know this early jay Z before all the hits. He's a poet, whatever the case may be. And so to me, the difference of an m C and a rapper is is an m C is and you have huge hits two but you more. You got your hand on the third rail. Tayli Kwali, Jada Kiss Common. These these are m KR res MC's rappers. What he's referring to is the guys on Billboard that crossed over and we think they commercial What do you think about that argument right there that he was having between Big and jay Z, where Big was like, Yo, I'm nicer than Son, but he was like, nah, J nicer than you. He's an MC. Of course this is before success. What do you think the difference between MC and a rapper is? I think a MC is just what it means. You know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: You're controlling the maestro. You can do anything. You have diversity, you have you know, you can do different. Uh, you can do a big commercial, you can do an R and B feature, you can do it all rappers just playing with words, oh, you know, the ability to put words together. MC can control the crowd, he can, he can. He can have the crowd in his hands. He can engage with the crowd.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but Nelly just the crowd was just Hey, it's all about the funny.

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Speaker 1: Now you're going into being an entertainer, you know what I mean? Is it entertainer, is it rapper?

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Speaker 2: Is it MC? Or is it?

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Speaker 1: So?

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Speaker 2: Right? Now?

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Speaker 1: You got you know, you got people that wrote the song that you might even see here, mama. Yeah. Pack was everything that's bad, raped all the.

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Speaker 2: Dues of everything. He was everything new drama. So you can make music because I'm trying to find out who's the perfect one. Like, so you say pop that's what castle. Yeah, it's like it's the best song right in the game. You got guys like whole with I Love the Dog was talking about you know, we capt the hottest v's then there we played Monopo Leave with Real Cash and that Big come on as Ship. Like, was you ever there for any of them? Like Big Song? I was there for Hypnotized. I was there when he woke with Hypnotize? Was you there for I Love anything like that?

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Speaker 1: I was there for I Love It though, No, he was actually in the.

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Speaker 2: We was in the MIDI room, you know what I mean? They both was there. Yeah, it was none of it was no fucking emails and none of that. There. You had to be there so you seen them both going at it right there.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't battling and none of that. They was trying to make a hit song, which they did. Did you see they we was mad.

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Speaker 2: You see the paper and moms. No, it was at the top. No, listen like I didn't see listen you.

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Speaker 1: Glory, You're not everything I tell is real. You don't got a hood for a reason. Listen, we was in the MIDI room. We was the young locks and Hole Hope kept coming in our room like giving us an update of what's going on, like yo, I'm about to go first this that, and he's like, no, you go in there and kill that ship, you know what I mean. And that's what he was probably going to the bathroom, didn't He's stopping the MIDI kicking with us, you know what I mean. And we actually seen Angela Winbush. That's not a sample. That's hers singing I Love the Dough. We've seen We've seen her laying. We've seen Damn Max laying. Pray and pray for my damn fall. That ain't a sample either. We've seen him record that lot. We wanted a fortunate artist to be featured on Life after Death. There's only a couple of features on there. So he loved big forever, you know what I mean. We thankful to being around for the process of life after death and slightly before that. It was a beautiful thing. But hey, we was in the studio to day they made.

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Speaker 2: I was in the stow for love it Dough.

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Speaker 1: I think I was in the stool even I was dead for a lot of them, or when we would come for our session and we would head what he just did, go on, Kiss good Night a lot of them. Of course we was there for Last Days because we featured on Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But you know, when I think about when we were talking about the perfect MC, the perfect rapper, perfect performer, entertainer came up a lot today. I think DMX shows which one of them you was there every song? Shut him down, open up shot.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he wanted to do that when Swiss first brought it to him, he didn't. He didn't want to do it.

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Speaker 2: He didn't want to do that.

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Speaker 1: I don't think at first. I don't think he was happy to do it into it when it was done.

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Speaker 2: When I tell you, and at this time, I was still halfway in the BRONX. So I'm at the car wash and when I tell you, every single car I don't care it was a Spanish dude that would be playing salsa. They was playing that ship like that song had me the dizziest. You know how you go for them? Bro where you going y'all? Because when you want to see if your record was popping, like Benjamin, you see who's playing?

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Speaker 1: My eye?

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Speaker 2: Man? I have never witness in the history of the Bronx. Start shut him down. Your I was dizzy. It was everywhere Like that was the craziest to me of standing outside trying to hear your song. That was that ship. You the King of New York. You the king everywhere. Let me tell you something, bro, they Fashion Week, everything come down here, everything touch hit. So you know last night you go to the Nick game, they got the car. Dad is all front like this is like, let me tell you something. New York got a lot of stars, like celebrities, big time stars. Like it's like they they putting them up a deck. Now they ain't just court side. Too many. There's too many superstars in New York City. If you look at it, the car Dashers is there, the Bad Bunnies is there, the Cardi Beans, the step Farons, the disc one down that on, the Sopranos, the Dish, the Tina Phase, the disc It's just too many stars in New York City. Now, if we were somewhere else in the b Market or Sea market, that shit opened all day. The court side is open. There's a hard ticket to get, hard to get a ticket, hard to get a ticket. I heard that what was the most expensive ticket for the game with five hundred thousand and thirty thousand. I don't know what it was fifty four thousand to seat the game I went, I was tempted to sell or something like that. I would have never caught a ticket again. You know that ship was fifty four thousand. That's crazy. I never do that. I ain't gonna lie to you. What I ain't fifty four ticket? Why not? Huh? Why not? Well, I've done it. I can do a lot with fifty man.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, New York nick a game, a nick floor sheet experiences like a bucket list of life that you know you can.

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Speaker 2: Cross that off. That kind of did it for free. So I mean, I tell you, man, you know that's why I would never pay for the ticket. Let me tell you something, man, I've paid that much, even more for boxing matches. You know this ship is crazy because your man aga blanga a little man aga bolanga fight Canelo. I'm out there with my family in Vegas. His manager they gave me some suspect. Suspect for me is I'm not going tenth bro, I'm not going five bro. I gotta be front row because somebody you don't like your enemy gonna come. Sit right, you know what saying? We call that the Joe Button seats. You know what, I'm second row, hoodie, y'all listen them second third row. That ain't I can't do it. I gotta sit it front row. I'll give you my experience. Will you call them seats the Joe Button seats them ship second row? You know, perfect example, him and fifty got some ship and I'm sitting courtside of fifty comes behind, y'all okay, but he's behind.

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Speaker 1: Those were still considered floor seats. Anything list aa and b B.

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Speaker 2: I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but the man had a little something going on with fifty and why God put fifty cent front row and he's in like third row? Like that would bother me if I was Joe Buttons. It happened to me before. That happened to me before, when I just would we just call in the fifth would he have a nice experience a good seat. But the problem is you gotta always expect the enemy might come from ro Yo. No you take tell you the truth. The enemy will come front row. Look what happened to Joe Barton. I'm gonna get you another one. Okay, I went to a Babyface concert. Hold up, I gotta hear, I gotta hear. I'm going to a baby Face concert once again. Fifty cent is the culprit. We just squashed the beef for fifty cent. Everybody's cool. I'm in the second row and the teen ha got me the tickets. I'm second row. The man come and sit in the front row right in front of me. Yo, crack, what's up? Yo? I missus crack this. I was like, oh, never again, Fifth. Yes, it's just Fifth, didn't you No, No, he's just like it's him. I'm telling you he might be like Yo with Jay Dad the her row three C, he'll come to one C. I'm telling you this guy is notorious for this. I learned my lesson that night I was at the baby Face concept. I said, you're on the team that don't ever your I don't care if it's Patty Labelle's Stephanie Mills. I'm front row. I won't go. I feel you call. I feel it that I am not giving the person the opportunity to sit in front of me. It's just I don't know, It's just I won't happen to me, that is what I'm trying to tell you. Like that, man, I went to the let me tell you, I went to the Bologa fight. Thee of cost me. Let's just say close to one hundred thousand or something, right. But the problem was, you know, usually when you get them tickets, somebody sells them tickets. Obviously the person who sold me these sickets I don't know because we buy them online, was Canelo's family. So I'm sitting down against what like this, my wife and my daughter with a hundred Canelo Mexicans. They all had sweatsuits, and I'm like, you got Canelo this, and I'm there like belong God, for sure, I was getting my ass beat that for sure. The cartown was in that motherfucker. I'm sitting there like that. I'm like, how the my line, Chris, I'm like, how the fuck I get these seats? Obviously it was somebody in his crew or his family who sold these seats. But YO, don't go in there. They're like, YO, you gotta be very I told my daughter, I said, YO, be very respectful in here. We might not get out of here. No, I'm talking about saying they got one hundred Canelo front rows were the three seats going for Belonga was surrounded. The wife is here that this this. I'm like, oh, we're gonna get Thank god I wasn't with my friends because we'd got panned it out, you know back in the hip hop news. I'm just telling it crazy Joe, No, no, crazy, Yeah, this is crazy Joe. But the Birdman said he was with Tony Braxon for eighteen years. She convinced him to get married. He did no paperwork, She got a divorce in two weeks and caught him for mega millions. He said the fix was in this birdman saying that he's saying he was with him, no prenup eighteen years.

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Speaker 1: Talking about the guy that don't pay. The producers did the last minute up. Let me stop, I love bird.

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Speaker 2: It's it's almost somebody told me when I when we discussed this story in my house, people, I'm not standing on this. I'm not at the divorce bro. I'm telling you what the streets is saying. And the Birdman said. The Birdman said he was with her for eighteen years, married her. He had no paperwork. She got him. I don't even want to tell you the number. The number is the price of this building? You ain't no regular number. She caught him. Two weeks divorce. He had to give her that check price of this building, like a serious you know the price of the build? No, they're serious, the price of a high rise in New York City. He gave him money like that for two weeks marriage. I don't know what. I don't really have a comment on that because I don't, you know, outside of my pay grade. Right, I'll tell you a crazy story, right, this is crazy, Joe, but this is real reality. I don't want to say no names, but people could pick up on this. He's so, I have a neighbor very successful, like my next door neighbor, very successful. So he wakes me up, says, yo Yo, come over to my house. Were having a celebration. So I go to his house and it's a bunch of people in his house. It almost looked like the movie US. It was just they were very upscale and they were off color. But they were like Phoebe Wallaf of the black community, this badest community. They was out of control. I've never seen people like this, right, And so I'm up in there and everybody looked like they got a master's degree or some everybody smart whatever this that, And so I go up in there and the man's wife he had just sold his company for like four hundred million, everybody knew was everywhere. And his wife does the kinking kinking with the cup and she gives the most beautiful speech. I love this man, this man is the greatest ever my husband. I'm so proud, and just like my Norse, my my next door neighbor, We're all the way up and I was like, wow, this is great. Seven in the morning on Instagram. The wife fous for divorce. The next day after the speech, we meditated murder. M hmm. Now you know they're gonna say I lie, right, they always say I lie. No, I'm keeping it red. They're gonna say I'm capping. This is going over. Now you're going I'm just telling we going all the way up. They saying they gonna say this, but it's the truth. This really happened in my life, Like I really was a part of this, and I couldn't understand seven in the morning. I was like, after this speech, but that four hundred you know, I guess that's a version of sleeping with the enemy. Definitely, you know what I'm saying. That's like that, that's hard though, that's hard to deal with. Ever signed up for a phone plan thinking Wow, great price, and then a few months later it's like surprise, your bill is higher. With boosts Mobile. You pay twenty five dollars a month forever. That's unlimited talk, texts and data starting adjust twenty five dollars a month, no price hikes, no contract forever. Plus. Boost Mobile is now legit nationwide five G network.

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Speaker 1: Did I agree with before you going to you? Because he got something to tell you. But the only thing that I did see that I don't think I'm prepared for is that when they take they taking stuff and switching it around and making the.

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Speaker 2: Own you know, so you mean like.

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Speaker 1: To listen he arling men interviewing Snoop and if we did pull up. Did you ever say Kendrick surpassed Dre and Snoop.

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Speaker 2: And Cube and all of this. I was talking about radio play exactly in the last The King, he's the king of hip hop. Like you could pull up a fa million interviews where I said, the most famous rapper in the universe of rap music, it's Snoop Doggy dog Won. Then why did he do that to us? Nah? You know we in that space now, Jay, That's what I'm trying to tell you. They trying to stick the knife in us. Yo, Joe bidden, Let me tell you something. You're all my friend. I know you twenty years you've been doing this thing. You ain't send us no edible send us he didn't send us no edible store, have to send us no flying once. He ain't sent us no champagne. Where did you get for one?

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Speaker 1: Shut up than Joe? Why do you think he's gonna sit us anything? After you name the seats behind the seats, let's sit to him seeing all of this crazy Joe, but we do you think he's gonna send us any.

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Speaker 2: Eight hundred episodes? And I gotta salute the brother and just we the new guys on the block. We ain't got no disrespect for Joe. But now bird man, I read that I came into the studio with them talking about that on the on the radio. Maybe he's he's been my friend twenty years. He don't like me talking about him getting divorced. But I got nothing but respect and love for the burnment. I'm telling you my phone was shaken. I'm not you. We got Joe. We're still active. You gotta we got love out of it. You gotta keep the love. We gotta keep the love. And yoo, I did get love. Prime Time called us. You know what I'm saying this. He loves, Yes, he loves how we talked about his family, his son and all that. He appreciate us. And yeah, we grew up violent. But that hurt me because I was like, these was the guys putting on for our neighborhood. And couldn't believe somebody killed him senseless murder, which was the one that had all that hip hop, which is the one that got you and you was like wow, like I can't believe this happened. By far.

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Speaker 1: For me, it's Big, my first time, the Locks, it was our first time in l A.

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Speaker 2: The Big got killed. So that was out there.

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Speaker 1: He was at the party. We was with them before the day before. We you know, we was in his like, did you have time at one DA?

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Speaker 2: Did you not feel like it was dangerous being in LA and he had the East Coast West Coast beef and I felt.

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Speaker 1: It was dangerous. But we really didn't know how to we know what I'm saying. We we didn't know what was really going on. We knew that ship was going on, but we didn't we never been there. We thought we was heavily protected. We thought we was good, you know what I mean. We thought we was the same way. I mean, we kind of was because we was with We had bad Boy and we had D in them. We had a different kind of arm even gage with us, we had extra Actually shout out.

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Speaker 2: To D A nice pick. J. You know what, I saved my life? I speak, Jay, you saved my life. When I heard that story, that's a real story. It was gonna get me. And you know, I had a lot of beef with the West Coast. I'm probably and we're not stirring nothing up, but I'm probably the only rapper from New York that had physical beef with the West Coast like real physical war. It went down right. So when I go over there, me and pun out there for the Grammys, there's a million cop cars in the street, and you know, it was like gang beef. So they had a guy with Jerry Carls a bubble goose. It was hot as hell and the gun was to his Ay. I don't know how there's one million cops out here. They don't see the guy old dog from the fucking menace to society, like the man in the middle of the street dripping the fucking Jerry Carle juice with a machine gun with a bubble goose on in the summer, and we don't rat. But I'm looking like geez, he says, christ, don't nobody see it? And he looked at me like he could not go back to the hood without clapping. Fat Joe not clapping killing me. He had a machine gun. And so it's a million cops out there. I fucked up because we had the man saying we had stripp We knew whatever was gonna happen, you know, don't go out over there, and we still like dummies, went out shout out. My brother tone Patron held it down, all of us, and so I'm sitting out there and the guy's dead. There's a girl standing next to me, and she sees what's going on, and she looks at me and says, a girl from New York. She said, now, I'm sorry. She was like, Joe, I'm sorry, I'm sorry this is happening to you, Like she could probably see like deaf in my face. Like the guy was. He was trying to figure out how to shoot me and get away from the one thousand cops, but he couldn't go back to his food without shooting me. So he was like he looked like a dog in rage. And then out of nowhere, the door opens and Deep comes out, and D comes out. He's like, yo, Crack, what's up this and that? And I looked at him. I said, yo, just D from the rough Riders. He looks over there, and General looks over there. He looks back and he said, that's for you, Crack. I said, yeah, it's for me. He said, yo, ice pick is gonna turn this corner in a white van. Y'all better just get in there, get out of here, right, So the van pull up. Ice pick A didn't even know he was saving us, right. He was coming around to get d the van pull up. We got in that bitch like the fucking painting from Good Times. You remember Good Times, they have to sit where everybody was dancing sideways and shit like that good time. Like yo, we slid in that motherfucker. Yo. God was with us. Was crazy. It was like six to seven of us. We got in that bitch and left in the van and look back. That guy was so confuse. He ain't know where the fuck we went because it was like two crowded. We got an the van. I was like, yo, I think, thank you saved my life. You don't understand this. He was like, what happened? I said, you old nigger had the machine gun. They ready to clap us this. He told us to get in there. So he took us to the mansion, which a couple of blocks away. After that, we would say we went to the Grammys with guns on us, Me and Big Pun. That picture that you see us looking like superheroes. We actually had hammers on us in the Grammys because that was too much. You know, I'm from Florida too, I've been in Miami for twenty two years. But you know, Jadad the versus see, I thought he just shot him. This is the real New York, not the gods that moved down to Florida. I was my mouth side with it, not those guys. I'm in the crowd like, yo, Jay, you know, like, what's going on, guys, Dude, I got to run out this building like he's shooting down to God. The migrators is snow bunnies. We moved down there for the winter, Yo, Taya. Man, what you were staking? You was getting that camera? Like what you was thinking when you was taking shots? What? What you was out of my mind that day.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't on anything, but the zone I was in was adderall war mode. It was just it was it was a very different space I was in that day. You know, I never been there before.

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Speaker 2: You know, I always wanted to ask you about that versus. Was it personal? No?

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Speaker 1: Not really wasn't those is our brothers. It's just you know, it was a moment. You know, I feel it's like a sports moment. It is it hip hop facts. Let me tell you something.

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Speaker 2: When I sparred with Ja Rule, I was standing in the building in Jersey, Uncle Dan's building. When I hit the first floor, the man, the doorman was like, get him cracked. I jumped in the car. The FedEx truck pulled up, take him to wall, cracked, drag him. By the time I got a Madison Square gun, I heard so much war like I was possessed. Like I walked up, isn't there? I was like, yo, I gotta kill him. I got like they hype that must feel like Balanga feels like that going to a fight or something like that. Like, no, it's the closest thing to fighting. You don't go into like a that's what you're said. You was like fucking possessed. It's just a lot. It was a lot. Man this week, get hit by the history, y'all.

00:32:49
Speaker 1: May nineteenth man DMX drop in nineteen ninety eight The Dog.

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Speaker 2: Always Love for the Dog.

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Speaker 1: Nineteen ninety eight, he dropped his debut album, It's Dark and Hell Is Eye. The importance of that album to me is that, you know, he put us on, He came and got us, put us, bought us with rough riders, told him this is we're starting it off, like you know, this is who I want to represent with me, and the rest was history. To see where we came from, to see where he came from. He was already then there like Bruce Springsteen and Yo, we already looked at him as like a rock star. Then fast forward him being the only one of the only rappers that ever do Woodstock.

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Speaker 2: That shit is crazy, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: That video a lot well forever mean the world to me because you know what I mean, he gave me a chance to.

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Speaker 2: Change my family's financial situation. You know, DMX stuck a guy up right in front of me. Yeah, Max stuck a lot of niggas, yeah Max. No, but he was already a star. Yes, just met him and pun in the gas station in Brooklyn after a show, thousands of people. After the show, we in the gas stations. Dude comes with some chains. The DMX was like, y'all, hold up, y'all. He went and took his chains, came back and started talking to us in the gas station. Yo, DMX, you can't even he did so no, no, no, he's done.

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Speaker 1: He did.

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Speaker 2: I'm just telling you a true story. Like I got so many kids, we might have we gotta filter some of these stories. I'm telling you you might have got incredible I'm not telling you none of them.

00:34:39
Speaker 1: Cut the crazy. Since we gonna I gotta give him story. Look, when we shot the John Blade.

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Speaker 2: Video, DMX showed up.

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Speaker 1: No listen, this is how long ago it was, and this how crazy this was. Stash boxes first got invented. He wanted to test his ship.

00:34:58
Speaker 2: That was more before that. Forget it was in the ages we had stash.

00:35:02
Speaker 1: It wasn't They wasn't doing what the ships was doing as the as a technology. He wanted to test his own ship out. He drove somebody was driving. He was in the passenger, let off a four I don't know what it was and wanted to get pulled over. Ain't got pulled over. I said, this nigga is nuts.

00:35:31
Speaker 2: Though he is nuts. That was the crazy.

00:35:35
Speaker 3: Yeah.

00:35:36
Speaker 1: Let he had in the con front of the cots. Let it off, pull a block of through, pull over. Know what you talk about this and they ain't have the ship to make it pop out yet, so he was.

00:35:47
Speaker 2: I said, this nigga pun is crazy. I just had the bends. The way to explain the way to explain it to you, bay is you know how somebody could be a genius in something and then in just common sense, he just don't know what he's like. I would go to his house right and he would have about thirty forty guns in his house. If you sat and the pillow was a gun, you put your hand on the chicken, it was a gun. You hit it. It was just And I would sit there because I really came from the streets. I know what Rico and Dykesman saw indictments are. I know what all this is. I don't came from them and be like, They're gonna make a jail just for you, buddy. Nah, they don't lock rappers up like that. They got swimming pools for rappers and all that tennis courts. I'm like, yo, he's think about the futuristic feds what And I would tell him, like, you'll plun your crazy broke. Then I go around his hood and the cops pulled me over like this. Prom one of the only rappers who never moved out the hood even til he died. He refused to move out the hood. I was already in Jersey, Like, yo, come in Jersey, birds of chirping, you know, he naw, I'm in the hood. I'm the realistic pun at the crib in the hood. Ten benzes, exotic twenty thousand dollars dogs and the all types of shit like he was big pun double platinum in the house. He didn't care, and so I would go to his hood and as a respected elder brother, the police pulled me over. So I'm like, your officer, while you putting yo Joe man, you know that you gotta stop throwing eggs at the old ladies in front of the supermarket. You know, we know he's the only guy with the bends with the water gun shooting the old ladies. I'm like, Yo, I go in this house, I start arguing with everybody in the house, like your punt, They're gonna put you in jail. You shooting the water guns at the old ladies. They know, the only guy with a five hundred bends in the fucking sound view. It's your punt. You're going now. He just didn't he he uh. He would go real from genius to common sense, no sense. Like I had a real struggle with him and Nori because Nory's also my little brother. Oh. They used to see me and be like, yo, Joe's the fun killer. He's the fun killer. No, I don't want you to go to jail and not get to the back, like I know what's going on out here. You guys are too crazy. Thank god we ain't have I g back then I'll tell you a quick story. We had this joint like this two days ago. It was hot in New York. I'm outside of uh which players the Demodesty Dynasty commanded the wise sponser right, dispensary cock diesel. Little Spanish dude is walking through with the tank top like this, right, I try to look away already know he makes a U turn, Yo, Joe, you got me through my I did twenty six years this. This that one thing I could tell you before. I was a tough guy. When I was five years old, I always knew the guys who just came home from yail No. Five. You know, these guys got tank tops and they walking like you know, they strutting around the thing. I knew this guy just came out of jail. They had to be the same way, y'all. Five years old, I knew that man came ran home from jail, and it's preferably just before the summer. They coming out with a tank top and all like, well, anyway he did it. I grabbed him so fast, hugged him. Yo, thank you, I say. You see that is a camera in this store. I walked through them two more steps. You see that it's a camera. I walked through them two more steps. You see that it's a camera. I'm not exaggerated. When you come to richest joint, I'm gonna show you. I'm gonna show you how I walked them. Maybe halfway to the corner, we passed ten cameras. Brother, can't do nothing no more. You're going to jail. Look at this, we're on camera. That's what Fat Joe's gonna tell you after twenty six years. You take that with you if you want. You're not getting away because he walking down and now he's in the black Aubumn. He's Puerto Rican. Did he ride? He just wanted to smoke. I'm just trying to let him know you on camera. Bee, I don't give a hell what what what hand skills you learned in jail? You're going back to Jude fifty two men. Yeah, he coming through with us, Say yo, bro, really politely, Look, look, look, look, look it's crazy because Remmy came to the thing and I told her that story before, and I said, let me show you this story me. She said, what you mean? She came the other day to Rich's joint. I walked her four stores down and there was ten cameras. This sauce. I say, y'all, you can't do nothing. You can't do.

00:40:55
Speaker 1: Nothing, cat, somebody is still try.

00:41:00
Speaker 2: Kids, just shoot the place you're on camera. You're not getting away with it. You're done gone twenty years. Your light in a very vine speacet to it. But with we're counseling when you're doing it. We're counseling though. So I'm trying to do some positive ship here. The king of this podcast ship to me. It's my brother Noriega left Racks. When I tell you I don't drink any show I got in Miami, his Puerto Rican cousins come and no, no, listen, Nigga, listen, you do not really have black halted Puerto Rican. But the Puerto Ricans come, I mean, Victor, let me say something to you. They literally step child me and take over my section, grab the bottles and be like, yo, you ain't drinking this. They know I don't drink. They just house my ship. It's thirty of them and I'm sitting I'm performing live, sitting on the corner. If I'm lucky to have this inch of the couch to myself. I love them they come, but they just come and take over my ship, like yo, yo, five move move. You know they saw grabbing the champagne and that ain't suspending all. You don't drink, you know you don't care this yo. I'm like the entourage ship? Is the Entourage ever gonna be dead? Like the nentarage, Like you're gonna need some people to travel. You gotta you need some people to travel with you. The people that they fun fun God to a festival going somewhere, four or five people. But back in the days, Deeople come with forty to fifty Fat Joe Turble Squad come forty fifty is the entage days over over or dodel because after you first.

00:42:55
Speaker 1: Get out of the game, anybody, look, I think it's the thing. When you first get in, you feel I'm bringing the whole block. When you start seeing how I go, now, I'm just the hatchet comes out. You're paying for bails, You're doing dumb ship, you start asking them off.

00:43:15
Speaker 2: Nowadays, my circle is so small. It's a period only God can fin I've been trying to find the cast. I'm a trucking the relationship you said, I'm trying to find the past code to get in my own so swell you forgot. I forgot the past. I still ain't get the privilege of the past. It's only God in the period. But I can't fuck with circle so small as old enough with some guy period. Only God is in there. I've been trying to crack the past cold, so I have to hop up in that ship. That's how small that ship is.

00:43:58
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00:44:18
Speaker 2: Travis Hunters just got married.

00:44:20
Speaker 1: I don't really like to talk about that kind of stuff, but you gave us a story from your neighbor how something happened.

00:44:27
Speaker 2: He had a nice you know, one hundreds of million dollars lick.

00:44:31
Speaker 1: They they invited the neighbors over toasting, and the thinking they next day gets the slip.

00:44:38
Speaker 2: So you don't like to talk about it, which I agree with you. But you want to line me up to talk about no, no, no, I just want wait till you think about trying to shunt to and his babe, you know, getting mad? What do you? What does Jadakiss think about that?

00:44:51
Speaker 1: I wish of the best. I my success in the NFL, and must success and marriage. I just don't believe these days in true love.

00:45:02
Speaker 2: No more so I don't.

00:45:03
Speaker 4: I don't believe believe in true love no more like that meaning that back in the days, the love our parents had, or the love we at least the last sprinkle love we had, is different now.

00:45:18
Speaker 1: So now everything's Mike awake, No, everything's a business agreement.

00:45:21
Speaker 2: Instance, they get married, you gotta sit down. I watched and this is on the thing. I watched this thing on Netflix. O Cho Sinko and this girl who I always thought they loved each other to death, and they brought the lawyers before the wedding, and the wedding was called off because they was like, I want a piece of your show, you want a piece of my show. I want to just it just turned straight business. And so what I'm saying to you is that, unfortunately, especially a young athlete, this stigma is not true. Because John Beson is my brother. He's a real smart guy. But the stigma around young athletes is they know how to play the fuck out the sport. They ain't that bright and so the girls zero in on them.

00:46:06
Speaker 1: You know it's not they're not that bright. They book smart and they athletic when it comes in. They not love y'all because they gym rats. They've been in the gym or the field or the classroom. They haven't been on.

00:46:20
Speaker 2: Brood with the census is God bless Travis Hunter. But my common sense say this won't end right. He's gonna end no prenup, no prenupt, This ain't gonna end right. And so that's the point where if that's your son, that's your nephew, real love though no prenup. Mean, what's the last time we saw real love in this generation? Like you could say real love unless unfortunately, unless you both is broke and you're coming up together. She get a good job and you get a job and we by have crib together and we do it together. Other than that, if you're a guy with a hundred m's and all that chance to say, you fucked and big time, and let me tell you something, somebody should have jumped in front of the battle. Do anybody got something to say somebody should somebody should have jumped in front of the barrel early, like an uncle or nephew. We hate those people, but at least let it be know. I got a friend right which I can't really talk him too much detail, but I got a friend who was once married, and you know they got him. You know what I'm saying. They got him for his paper and all that. You know, his ex wife got him. She took most of the bread. He was back fucked up. This that crawled out the dungeons, crawled out out the dungeon. When I say dungeons, look when you gonna pick up your man. And he got the Hitler mustache, the big shit like this, he don't even look like he did, like you know, he all fucked up. When you go out there, he got water feel and now you know the big ship when when you come pull up and you're like, you're like, damn bro, like that happened sneaking of them up.

00:48:10
Speaker 1: I don't like how what you call him from the Indian and somebody on the paces that look like Ron different.

00:48:16
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was like Benjamin Shepherd. He got a rifle though by he looks like Ron from the different wood out of you.

00:48:29
Speaker 2: I don't like a bunch of them Indiana guys by him right there, the guy who come up in there to rough different. That's what I mean. That mustache, that mustache, you know how you thought? You don't know? But my man was fucked up. So we encourage him. Sure enough, he gets back on his feet, he starts making a bunch of money again, and he's ready to kindle no flame. Oh he went back. Yes, listen, listen. But my thing is I had because everybody talking to me on his back. You got your cow, I got mine. Everybody yo yo yo, yo yo yo. I had the balls to pull over on the West Side Highway. He gonna know I'm talking about him, And I said, Yo, they left you fucked up already. Are you sure you want to do that? Nah? Joe want to know what I'm doing this? And this? I said, Bro, I picked you up with the quarter shield. Nah, you know the mustache, the shit, you know, the shit like Shepherd from Indiana, that big the fucking free cheese your stage. Do you remember them block cheese shits? That nigga got that ship right there right So I'm like, yo, check this out. I said, you should. I wouldn't have been a real one. I wouldn't want to have kept the real with myself with my DNA, so I had to be He said, Nah, I got this, this and this and now, so right you sure. I just want you to know I'm bringing this up at this time just so that you know that you know I'm not just going with I'm just trying to be Nah, Joe, I got this. Everybody's happy. It's cool, you know what I'm saying. But these guys they want to spend that, they want to rekmble that that old flame. I don't know what to tell you. It just ain't safe. No more man to get married and shit like that. That shit all music in the background. Here, where's the love? No, No, that's what I'm saying, love, because once you coming in the game. You know what I'm saying. It's just a dunkin cup. But it's kiss cafe and hand baby. That's right, baby. Ks got fake coffee dot fcoffee dot com. We got rewinded ten wife fight the time while you can rewind the time, Why look fifty three while you can look forty three? Why look forty three while you can look thirty three? If your wife says she likes you with that great bed. She's lying. Guys, get in the game, get your stride back, rewind the tad Sally's beauty CBS. Yo, look, Sen Kyson Knot right, he must have a Travis should have called Kyle. Oh yo.

00:51:12
Speaker 6: He ain't go to the school of Ky. No, he ain't go to the school of But you know what. Also that tells me about Travis. He ain't got real People rather him as much as a dude. Somebody has Prime.

00:51:22
Speaker 1: He got you, They definitely they told dude.

00:51:26
Speaker 2: But in the I think Prime shot them down and gave him all the games that one shout out to coach. You know, I love he treated him like a son. I know he gave him. I know he gave him all the tools and the resource move forward any need. So I could talk about the funniest shit I've seen since, Like Dave Chappelle, this guy Kyson Knot has a class for athletes, the audience's athletes making one hundred million, fifty million, this and this and that and what not to four four with like bad chicks and baddies and all that. So they got a girl acting like she you know, and then you got a guy, so she calling him like, hey, babe, shoot, you're not in front of the classroom. Hey babe, you know I'm at the mall and you know I've seen this watch, you know, and I cannot leave them all without this watch. This is mine. It's just speaks to me this, this, that, And then she goes, you know, I need to see if you can wire over sixty thousand, just sixty thousand, babe, this, So they jump out, wha whah, Wait a minute, Wait a minute, wait a minute, hold up, let her talk some more. She goes. He goes, what kind of did you ask her? What kind of watch? She says, what kind of watch? And she says AP. He says, this is your out. You absolutely hey, aps. You can't see it with aps. This. So he's teaching the guy and the girl's like, yeah, well but I need I like AP this and this and that, and they start telling him, yo, telling your shit is maxed out, like you know, you're respect this week's money. It's done, and she said, damn, some guys got me like that before this this that. I mean, they've given classes on how not to get got. I think by a chick. I think that we need to oh, no, I should be man. I thought it was brilliant. Like I'm watching the shit. I'm dying laughing. I'm like, Yo, this shit is brilliant because you know, guys out here they're getting gotten. Tupac should call one of the most prolific rappers in the world. I think the realest rap in the world ever. Just my opinion, right. Every time I seen Tupacs, if we talk of violence and we're talking that, he was in some shit. Every single time I laid the eyes on him, I look at him, Yo, you've seen such and such pulling up the ham in the middle of the club. You over here, they was bootlegging tapes. He beat up like twenty five Africans on one twenty fifth. I'm watching them broad daylight, putting him work every where I go. When I met him, he had a rad bandann him with two guns. I didn't even know who it was. I'm in Atlanta. He come up your crack. I don't know who he is. I'm looking met the man is dead. We in the cipher is one of them conferences. He pulled at Yo's pot. That's how I met two pots of cord. The first time I ever seen him. Was in Atlanta too, Jack the rapp Did he have two guns? That's where I was at Jack To rapping. He didn't do that to you. Hit it to me. He was at that Jack was there the same one. It had to be the same. When the girl was like, I seen your age on the cake, I thought you was way younger. You was at the Jack To rappings save that he was at the same one. I thought you was like ten years behind me.

00:54:47
Speaker 1: Man, he was at He was at the Yount.

00:54:53
Speaker 2: You was there. Listen. We was at the motherfucking the hotel. And the girl kept going death frozen, the oh long bees call damn. The girl that was in the arm in the chronic she was singing that shit out their left rows in the huse Long Beach and I was like, yeah, you know, we just kept making the scene that but Tupac pull up. My point is he gets locked up. Let's just say the white people in the record label, no matter how much he was selling, no matter how much we see them on TV, no matter what, they did not go in that bag to bail him out. This is the number one rapper at the time. You couldn't escape. Tubac was on the news. He was on everything. He was selling so many millions of records. They did not bail this man out. It took Sugar Knight to come from LA to bail out Tupac. That's how he got signed to death Row. Right, So if you think the record label's coming to bail you out, you know, I know they support you at the beginning or whatever. You got Little Dirk right now, Little Dirk has faced in life. Right. If you think he's thinking, I don't know, man, God bless him. If he's thinking the record.

00:56:07
Speaker 1: I don't know about none of that ship. But fast forward the times from Pock to dirt Dirt got. He's making mad off. He got mad. He's trying to put up mad M's buildings. All he's still they.

00:56:18
Speaker 2: Denying his bell does fall Pack didn't have that? They'll put up.

00:56:22
Speaker 1: So man listens like a It goes you feel about that with the as big as Pack was, look, he should have had You don't think he should have been able to get listen without shit back.

00:56:35
Speaker 2: He ain't have it. No, but you just said he was everywhere on the news on us, but he didn't have that bag. He didn't have that bag, or he would have bailed himself out. He didn't have the money to bail himself out. Sometimes we living day by day, We just living by different That's what I'm saying.

00:56:53
Speaker 1: Euation, because Dirt got the money and he can't get tracked.

00:56:57
Speaker 2: You think you checked the check, you working every day, checked the check. We checked the check if we buying three hundred thousand dollars, watches, house homes and everywhere. We checked to keep working. That's why you gotta keep working.

00:57:09
Speaker 1: Everybody, everybody is so rich, and why they ain't fucking still working.

00:57:14
Speaker 2: Gotta work. When I see Smoky Robinson and all the motherfuckers still at Vegas and line will do it. I'm just seeing Rod Stewart about to do something, all right, So what does that mean? Does that mean that they love to do it? But does it mean like we gotta pay the bill? He got kids in college, you got all type of shit going on mortgages, you got car notes, you got ship Like I mean, guys eighty years old still performing touring. I mean just two days ago was Patty LaBelle something I would have went. I was in Vegas stuff, I had a show Patty LaBelle, my girl Stephanie.

00:57:52
Speaker 1: Bell Gladys night shot and counk hm on.

00:57:56
Speaker 2: It's a musty TV. But even they doing it for the love and the passion, or they still got to get the money to pay these bills, because these bills just keep it stop. The bills don't stop. The bills keep coming. I don't care. That's the bills is coming. Now the train is coming. And so what happens is I don't care how much money we make. It's almost like shampoo, the shit just slipped through your fingers. I'm not safe. No, I'm keeping it real with you. I am not safe with no amount of money. You don't know how many times I made a million dollars and this shit was gone in like a month or two. And it's just regular shit. Yo, Pay the lawyer, pay your insurance, pay this, repeat the process, just this that, and then you turn around and it's like, yo, where's the brad Yo, bro you do Louis Vuitton ain't cheap. Bro. All that shit you're doing out here looking cute, it ain't cheap. And so there's always a check to check. I don't care how much money you make. It blows my mind when I'm sitting down, I'm like Yo, I just made a million dollars last month. How the fuck are you telling me the amex mill? This, this, this, this, the washed up two quarters of the shit, like real quick like and you're thinking you in the fucking When I was in the projects, I thought I could buy a fucking cloud with a million dollars a cloud. I'd be like, yo, I could buy me a cloud a million dollars. You looking at the fucking car too, They going a million dollars. They was acting like you could buy the whole Bronx to that shit like this up there, you know. D Ray Davis raise man, I love you. He posted a video on him and coach. It said it's the first time of twelve years he been in coach. He feels like he got flewed out or something like, what do you feel about flying coach?

01:00:00
Speaker 1: Period of jet I ain't really happen on the Spirit. I hop on the Jet Blue, hop on the coach for a short flight. You do a quick one, yeah you know what I mean, a short hour or two. Let me tell you I ain't you know, I said I got I'd rather go Jet Blue than like a coach eleven like thirty one E get a stay right in the front.

01:00:21
Speaker 2: See TV.

01:00:23
Speaker 1: I watch a few on orders on there, but I can't go to Cali or nowhere. I'm not doing no real hours on coach.

01:00:30
Speaker 2: I can't do it right. I'm not no, no, no, definitely pray. I literally, this is part of my prayer. God, please don't put me in coach. It's a whole different atmosphere back there. I'm not telling you that for the first class. I got no roule lo. I pray. It's part of my prayers every day. God, please keep me in first class. I went coach one time. Some first. I'm telling you the truth. What you want me to do, I gotta expect to find the things in life we got. It's hard being number one, but somebody gotta do it. So what I'm trying to tell you the one time I had to fly coach, I sat next to the hill Billy Gems, that Beverly hillbilly. When I tell you, these kids was climbing over my shoulder. Some kid threw another kid a back of potato to smack me. In my faith, they will dipping. It's a different type of atmosphere back there. These was white people. This is the Beverly Hills, Billy Hey John shit hit my shits climbing over my shit. Yo. I was praying so much in that seat, and that was the Vegas Oh see, Yo, I was praying. It was the only flight I was praying. I said, God, please, Lord Jesus, I do never want to be on this again. And let me tell you something. I also believe that like the cheaper airlines like Spirit Southwest and all, they pay for fucked up routes out there. They pay for the bottom. Yeah, because they shit always like this. You ever got on a Spirit or they ship like this? Or I think they paid all right, what's the wackets level thirty four thousand feet? It's cheaper. Yes, they buy that route and your ship be like this all the time. You get there safe, but you shit be like this. You how come out? You pay? Listen, you pay for a private They'll tell YO, were going over all. I watched Calid maneuver like y'all. I don't want no bumps. I want you to be like, yes, sir, don't worry, We're gonna go to the west to right. There's no weather in forty seven thousand like you pay for that, heir. There's a reason why Spirit Airline and all them bullshit airlines got that shit going like this, We can forget about getting a sponsorship for Spirit. No, no, no, well we could take the bullshit out right, but just lower level headline, all right. I like that. I like that shit crazy out here, man. But you gotta take care of yourself, man, because it's hard. It's a horror show if you don't. And so we see shit out here sometimes where it just it don't make sense to me. You know, when I see legends looking fucked up, I see people looking fucked up, I see people not taking care of themselves. Man, it's just too much shit. And at certain age you neat that just to take care of you. You can't sniff a mountain of cocaine at fifty something years old. You know you over there thinking you Tony Montana at thirty. I'm not advising that you sniff a mountain of cocaine at fifty because your ass is done.

01:03:58
Speaker 1: I'm not advising stifferent about the cocaine at any age.

01:04:02
Speaker 2: I'm in my crib Miami, and I'm always early, right. I think you beat me here today, right, first time he beat me here, But I'm always early, So I'm ready. I'm up, ready to shoot the ship from the house. They're like, yo, Jada is a little lady. I said, why, he said he's in the gym. I had to respect that. I said, damn, this guy's in the gym, and for fifty years old, you could do all that. Ship. I see you up there, push ups and some assaults and ship you doing some shit on it one arm like that ship? What the fuck? What's your pops cock diesel? What? No, I'm asking you so whether you get this ship from doing the ball work? The this that I'm looking at you, Jim Jones, it's cock digel. It's a snowstorm and the snow is doing push ups anyway? Is that something special or something like? He's doing push ups in the snow with fucking the change knowing him as ship, like my thing is this thing is yo? No, I'll be looking at y'all working out. I'm like, Yo, this ship crazy medicine to give it up to you.

01:05:13
Speaker 1: Man, fist move a little, just do a little move.

01:05:16
Speaker 2: No move, I'm good. I'm just not cack diesel. I don't believe my body. My body is like Tyson Fury was a good yoh ship. That was the second best thing he ever said. Let me tell you something, he's not he'll knocked you what hell. But he looked flabby and sick, like you're looking at that, Tyson Fury. Now I don't look flabby man. The man looked like he was the chair. He retired. Man can't get a six pack. He knocked.

01:05:49
Speaker 3: Right.

01:05:49
Speaker 2: So I'm like that. You know, I'm not diesel, I'm not hanging. Make sure that's the clip, lest I got it be a clip. I'm like Tyson Fury. That was dog trying to keep crazing the surf sun that was saying that that is it's just rack. It just got siding. M hm hm