BIG FACTS feat. Gucci Mane

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00:00:00 Speaker 1: Big Bank, DJ Screen and Baby J with the number one podcast in the streets, Big Big. 00:00:06 Speaker 2: Facts live from Rerose Studios. 00:00:09 Speaker 3: You know what it is, It's time for Big Facts, Big Bankers here, Baby J, your truly, DJ Screen and our family, Gucci Man, don't pull it up. 00:00:18 Speaker 4: Thank you all for having me. It's a pleasure to be here. 00:00:20 Speaker 2: What's what's up, Guccie. How you're feeling? How you feeling, brother? 00:00:23 Speaker 4: I feel real good. I feel really good. 00:00:26 Speaker 2: Really good. 00:00:27 Speaker 3: Yeah, I appreciate that. I think it's I think it's easy to say that everybody is proud of you, brother, We are proud of you. 00:00:33 Speaker 4: You know. 00:00:34 Speaker 3: I appreciate that for handling your business from top to bottom. Let me ask you all, like, so, how do you feel about the game? How do you feel about the game when you look at it as a person that came up in the game, influenced so many people, put so many people on. Like, how does Gucci Man feel about the current state of the game. 00:00:50 Speaker 4: I love the current state of the game. 00:00:51 Speaker 5: I think it's still giving our opportunities to people who would have no opportunity. You know what I'm saying, Like people who have been doing something else might be hustling or you know it and turn them to me. 00:01:00 Speaker 4: And now you don't even got to do nothing illegal. So the game is still thriving. 00:01:04 Speaker 2: Think the rules don't change or the game. 00:01:06 Speaker 5: I think it's a new generation and they probably ain't grow up with the same like you know what I'm saying, the stuff that we grew up with. So they just doing things different in their way from what they from what they know. 00:01:15 Speaker 4: It's smart, you know, for real. 00:01:18 Speaker 5: Look even because you know I be signing artists and I see that, like from my age to their age, I got to meet them where they at. I can't expect them to be mature and grown like me. If I do that, we ain't gonna never communicate. I had to kind of dam it down and see things from not saying damn it down, from just so you know, a different perspective. 00:01:35 Speaker 6: And then like, how do you feel, Like, how do you feel when people call you a curator of the culture, being that a lot of the people that are like mega superstars now came up under your wing and you actually like discovered and cultivated them. 00:01:52 Speaker 4: I'm proud of that. That's my legacy. 00:01:54 Speaker 5: I'm proud to be at I'm probably have my hands in all these different artists, especially like in the beginning before anybody even knew that was big. Like that's my claim. Yeah, I'm super proud of it. I can't even lie n you. 00:02:05 Speaker 4: The better pay you charged anynigga bake you. 00:02:11 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's what my like, that's my biggest thing I did, Like I give people that confidence. I sit next to him, staying with them, like through tough times, make him start feeling like their stuff before anybody, you know what I'm saying. I'm feeling them like, bro you with you with you know what I'm saying, Before they even get popping to get the money, I'm always already acting like. 00:02:29 Speaker 1: Their stuff and don't mind jumping on the song with you whatever they do it all black guy. 00:02:34 Speaker 4: I remember that. I remember me coming up on that feature for somebody. You know what I'm saying. 00:02:37 Speaker 5: I never forgot that, Like how people used to be acting funny, didn't want me in the studio, didn't want me around. So me, I'm like open door policy, everybody come in. And I get that from I got that from Zay two. I used to be going over the house a lot, right, and they ain't gonna lie. I used to be like, damn, every time I come over here, like I don't want all these different people here. 00:02:53 Speaker 4: I want to be caught by myself. He might have fresh over there, he might. 00:02:57 Speaker 5: Have young La, but back then I'm on a little bit more no on the nails, something like, Bro, when I come over here, I want all your time making beasts for me. But I've seen how he had the open door policy, and all of them already started blowing up. Yeah, and that's I said, damn, when I you know what I'm saying, get my studio, do jed lights. 00:03:13 Speaker 1: It's like it was basically a bunch of what you call it the in it, what you call it when the nigga make his art, what you call it energy in the room, because you might got a nigga might just be listening. No, Bro, you probably need to say this right there. 00:03:28 Speaker 4: You know, help especially the bride fatter. 00:03:30 Speaker 5: You know how we do it takes one person in the boot, but it's fifteen people trying to help you on something. 00:03:34 Speaker 4: You say this, say that, don't say that. 00:03:37 Speaker 6: And then you got like maybe you might have like five ten producers to choose from. You might have a nigga in there taking pictures. You might have a nigga in there showing you how to box, like all kind. 00:03:46 Speaker 5: Of We got the train and there, we got cam Kirking. Now we got everybody in there. You got c Fox, Metro, see no my like you said that. That's how I are. 00:03:56 Speaker 4: Like four five rooms in them. We put the room in the every day. 00:03:59 Speaker 5: Every day I got people doing construction. You got to step old people doing construction. And I got Mexican how. 00:04:06 Speaker 4: You feel good? They don't want to ask you like how you feel? 00:04:08 Speaker 1: I know we asked you how you feel about how you feel like looking at yourself. 00:04:11 Speaker 5: I feel the best I ever felt, you know what I'm saying, Like everything worked out for me to be honest, Like I can't even describe, like yesterday idea of the book signing in Miami, right, there was so many people coming to like sign a book man, Like I feel that love that you ain't gonna lit needed. 00:04:27 Speaker 4: To see that, you know what I feel the love, That's what I can say. 00:04:29 Speaker 5: I feel the love of people telling me like I can't like these grown people right, they look almost my age, but they're saying they was in middle school when they first they started listening to me or they was in high school, like it's crazy, like I got them through all that. 00:04:42 Speaker 4: I'm like, damn, y'all grow up. I can't. I know. 00:04:44 Speaker 5: It made me feel like old a little bit, but at the same time I feel the love. 00:04:47 Speaker 1: Yeah, nah, really shit, you're looking like it. You're looking like you feel king Like what's your regiment to stay like? 00:04:54 Speaker 4: Just stay out? Stay around people like stay off around. 00:04:56 Speaker 5: I work out every day, six days a week, like, and I'm all, you know, I got them two little babies, so that consumed me. By the time it gets sound eight o'clock, I'm tired. I go to sleep. I got like a simple life. I wake up early, I work out. 00:05:09 Speaker 2: Man. 00:05:09 Speaker 4: By the time something eight o'clock, I'm tired. I want to lay down. 00:05:12 Speaker 1: Sleep you ain't never had since you been home. You ain't never had like the thoughts of the old Gucci thoughts. 00:05:17 Speaker 4: When I first got out. 00:05:18 Speaker 5: When I first got out, it was kind of uncomfortable, a little bit like, Damn, this ain't what I usually do. 00:05:22 Speaker 4: I usually when I go to the studio used to dragon lean and smoking. 00:05:25 Speaker 5: I used to have my boars with me, So I almost felt like it was challenged because I couldn't be as created. 00:05:30 Speaker 4: I thought I couldn't be as creative as I was. I thought I needed that stuff. But yeah, it was so it kind of made me feel uncomfortable. 00:05:37 Speaker 5: But I grew up like I just had to like cold turkey until I could understand it and deal with it. But at first it was tough, But it ain't tough no more. Now it's like it's almost like this is what it was when I first got out. I'm like, I'm gonna do the scrade and narrow because I know them people, my probation people there by watching me. 00:05:52 Speaker 4: You see what I'm saying. But once I got our probation, I'm like, damn, this ship. 00:05:55 Speaker 5: He was so smooth. I kept so many folks out of my being. It's like this, I'm just gonna keep it going. I've been keeping it going. 00:06:01 Speaker 4: So do you ever do you ever like miss the city? I do miss the city. I love the city. 00:06:06 Speaker 5: It's still my favorite place to be in Atlanta, But I don't miss Alana PD And I felt like they got it out for me. Yeah, so I'm out of the here, I see y'all. Let I'm just a tourist here and. 00:06:20 Speaker 1: A nigga don't need to be in those spots that we're gonna get to it like create episodes. You know what I'm saying, because you could be around certain ship and trigger your energy no matter how you feel. 00:06:29 Speaker 4: Bro East Alanta definitely trigger episode for me. What you think? Do you think your memory is your worst enemy? Damn black. 00:06:37 Speaker 5: That's a good question because every time I ever had a real episode, I know, we ain't talked about it like I have an episode. I can't forget a lot. I can't remember a lot of things, but I can remember. I can remember Easter Alanda like the back of my hand. I always go there, even if they sound walking down the street or whatever. I ain't never walking down to I'm always walking down Moreland, down Vouler, Chris down Grisch because I know that. I know I can walk into the studio BA Go and be like, hey, that's Gucci. It's almost like I go with my default mechanism, right back to that what I know, to the car. 00:07:01 Speaker 4: This shit crazy. I'm talking to the root of the talk. 00:07:03 Speaker 5: You go right back to the root. It don't go nowhere else. It's like I don't even need a car. I just go down and it's just what I want to go to. That se it crazy though, but like you go, if I started the Texaco, it's like I got five different places I can. 00:07:15 Speaker 4: Go and I can get a ride from anybody, like whatever. They can't come up there and get me. 00:07:19 Speaker 7: Yeah, do you think do you think that it's like that? 00:07:22 Speaker 6: Because subconsciously that's what made you feel comfortable. 00:07:26 Speaker 5: I think it's a comfort level. Then I get a comfort lever and you still learn like it can be a bad thing too because you get too comfortable, you. 00:07:34 Speaker 4: Know what I'm saying. But I definitely got a comfort level them. That's right. 00:07:37 Speaker 3: Why was not the time to do episodes and put out the project in the book? Why was not the time to just open it up and let it all out there? 00:07:44 Speaker 4: To be honest? 00:07:44 Speaker 5: The episode things started with my wife. I had an episode and my wife was like after the episode, she was like, I wish I would have taped you so I didn't show you how you was acting. She's like, you know, I want to you need to a move about it. She's been home since I've been home to have an episode, right, and she was telling me that. 00:07:58 Speaker 4: I'm like, damn. 00:07:59 Speaker 5: She was like you just see how you you know what I'm saying. She's like, I didn't want to do it because it's kind of embarrassing. I didn't even want to tape you. You see what I'm saying. So she was like, you need to do a move about that. That was maybe like twenty nineteen, right, So I'm like, damn, I always kept talking about thinking about it. I'm like, we should do a move about it. Then I end up my artist Scot was going through something like yeah, and I'm like, after I talked to him and was talking to him through it, I'm like, I'm gonna write a book about it. You know what I'm saying. I ain't gonna even wait on no moving all that. I'm like, this stuff can help somebody, and that's what made me start doing it. But she the one who like sparked it and it was off for episode. She said, you need to do a movie called Episodes about about you going through episode because you just don't know how you be acting because I don't remember everything. And she's just telling me like, you were doing this, you were doing that, you were doing this, you were tripping. I'm like, damn, She's like, you need to make a move upbout that it'll it'll blow up. 00:08:45 Speaker 1: I remember in the book you was saying, God damn, she was telling you how to coach Scars through it. 00:08:51 Speaker 4: Right, she did. 00:08:51 Speaker 1: And then when you got out the phone, you asked her like how you knew all that? And she still start tearing. 00:08:55 Speaker 5: Up, like this is real movie though that was real life. She said, she like, I learned that from dealing with you. She tell she did it, she got me, And I'm telling him when I'm talking to scr she I got, she she got she she whispering. So Scart don't even know, but she telling me like asking him how many pos he took? Asks him, is he do he want to hurt hisself? Ask him this and that, and that's what I did, And he calmed down all the way till you got talk him all the way to the to the. 00:09:18 Speaker 4: Trauma. Soenter, well he went to yep, do you feel do you feel like? 00:09:22 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this Guca man the fleir goog, what mister David like, remember you said in the book, like you created all these people? 00:09:31 Speaker 4: How many of them still here? How many of them had to go? Mmm? How many are still here? I think all of them still here. I had to go. I don't think none of them had to go. 00:09:42 Speaker 5: But I got him on the control because I like all of them. The fly was when I first started two thousand and five, like that's like, okay, you're gonna be my dad. 00:09:52 Speaker 4: Ain't Guca man. 00:09:53 Speaker 5: So the flower was like, I don't want to just take his name and just be another person. I'm I'm Guccia man in the flir They're gonna make me like it's not it's mine personalized. 00:10:02 Speaker 7: I'm like two point oh yeah, but go. 00:10:05 Speaker 5: I love go Wa because East Atlanta name, I ain't make that name like I'm like this they called. They started saying when I start getting money, got the family, They're like, but that guap, so I can't. 00:10:14 Speaker 4: I always want to keep that. You know what I'm saying. All the nigga's different. 00:10:18 Speaker 1: That's inside you because you saying in the book, like they were saying, like how you text your text? 00:10:23 Speaker 4: I do see that when you walk whichever one that's what I mean him say. She was like I don't like walk. 00:10:30 Speaker 2: She's like what do you be doing? 00:10:33 Speaker 4: When it was when I was having an episode, like man, it's like it's so bad. But it's so embarrassing. It's It's like, that's why I can. 00:10:40 Speaker 5: See other artists when they going through something and know they' spiring, because when I'm walking like I say that the most cruel stuff, like I might talk about your kids, like I say stuff that when I when it's over with, I'm so embarrassed that I said that. It ain't a good thing. You feel me. I might say I put your baby in the microwave, but in that moment you meant I meant that it's scary. And then you be like, damn, I can't believe I said that out of my mouth. 00:11:03 Speaker 4: You can't even believe you said that. 00:11:04 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like you want to be you want to just tell about you sorry, because you're in the world were living in and you kind of got to stand on. 00:11:10 Speaker 4: It, you kind of kind of. 00:11:11 Speaker 5: But this thing is I don't be wan to stand on it. Yeah, because I really I'm going through something. 00:11:16 Speaker 4: I'm not well when I did that, So that be eating you up. 00:11:18 Speaker 1: Like when you when you when you when you snap out of your episodes or whatever and you see it and you go to ceiling. 00:11:23 Speaker 4: That's a whole nother that's thing. That's a whole another trouble. So that's fucking with you too. 00:11:27 Speaker 5: All the same time what you're gonna did because it's embarrassing. You don't want to be like, damn, I can't even control what I was saying, what I was thinking, what I was doing. You had no control over that. That's like, that's worse than a child. But you're looking at it this embarrasment. But the people outside, the fans, they embracing it from you, like you wouldn't be good if you weren't doing this. But this keep getting me locked up though, Yeah, yeah, you feel what I'm saying. So I had to, like I had to see a therapist. I had to get prescribed medicine. I had to take my shit seriously. So I don't never have non episode again because like once I had my little boy and my little girl, Like, I don't want to never go through no episode while I got these two kids. 00:12:00 Speaker 4: They need I need to be there for them, right, you know what I'm saying. 00:12:03 Speaker 1: So you never had an episode before that Waffe House before taking this. 00:12:07 Speaker 4: Episode before that, that's my first time. So you so you triggered some inside of your brig or something in my brain. Damn dragging that shit straight. 00:12:14 Speaker 3: You think you think, you think the darkest maybe space you ever was in was when that Twitter episode happened. 00:12:20 Speaker 4: I think that was the darkest. 00:12:21 Speaker 5: That was September thirteen, Friday to thirteen, twenty sixteen thirteen. 00:12:26 Speaker 1: All that whole moment led you to jail, right, Yeah, yeah, Like it was a whole that was like a week of ship. 00:12:31 Speaker 4: It was a build up. It was a build up. 00:12:33 Speaker 5: It's like a gatting worst words, worst words, like some of the stuff I remember then this part I don't remember cause star getting bad. 00:12:38 Speaker 4: Bro. I had to stand down with the police. I got locked up. 00:12:42 Speaker 5: You read your crashed brid had a gun on me, and I'm telling the police he I ain't, I ain't, I ain't cutting up. Put your down, Put your down first. You ain't no police set you up here. Not saying they did, but I'm just that's what my mind was telling me, y'all. Ain't y'all ain't. 00:12:56 Speaker 4: We ain't need no police. That my mind telling me, I don't even trust you. You got a call. You gotta call the sergeant for me to put the gun down. So, looking back on that, do you feel like yeah, don't want the one, and God sent me. 00:13:07 Speaker 5: I do feel like, you know, like I'm proud of myself because like, okay, all this stuff and I still conquered, like the goals I had when I first wanted to be repped, Like I want to say this amount of money, I want to be this type of person. I want to help these many people. I did it that surpassed and surpassed. 00:13:21 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. But I went surpassed it when I went to prison, know for sure. 00:13:24 Speaker 5: So I'm like, damn, I ain't gonna even get to conquer my goals. I went in thirty three, got out thirty six. So I'm like, damn, I'm not gonna help another chance. God gave me another chance, and I ain't play with it. 00:13:35 Speaker 6: So let me ask you this, going back to like what Black was saying and how you were saying that you wanted to keep everything in check so that you didn't have an episode in front of your kids, and then when you did have an episode and come out of it, it was kind of like another weight on an added weight on you because of the regret that you had for the stuff that you did while you were going through the episode. How did you manage to kind of put that anxiety that came from that remorse in check so that it didn't eat you up like the episodes were eating you. 00:14:07 Speaker 5: Because, like I'm saying, like, now, Jay, everybody know. And first I wasn't like feel honest with myself. If I wouldn't, I wouldn't even I was like, ain't nothing wrong with me. 00:14:21 Speaker 4: I'm in denial. 00:14:22 Speaker 5: So when something happened, it's like we never really address what just been saying. 00:14:26 Speaker 4: Even if I said something bad about you. 00:14:28 Speaker 5: Now it's like, as soon as that would have happened, I'm coming back like, hey, I'm sorry, and they gonna know that I'm sorry because they already know that I got an issue. 00:14:34 Speaker 4: You see what I'm saying. 00:14:35 Speaker 5: When you got like when you shame of it and you embarrassed about it, it keeps you from from progressing past facts, you know what I'm saying. So that's why I kind of had to do the book too, because like, I'm not ashamed of that no more. 00:14:44 Speaker 6: I address the fact that, first, hey, I have a problem, Like this isn't something I'm doing on purpose, It's something that I have any control over, Like I can't control this ship like this is going. 00:14:55 Speaker 1: On, but that you gotta do that though, because that's your purpose, bro, Your purpose is all this shit you went through is to let other motherfuckers know had the courage to know you something. 00:15:04 Speaker 4: Wrong with you and figure this shit out, bro, Like that's why Nigga help. 00:15:07 Speaker 5: Brou It took me a long time to say, like, I went to a therapist, I took some medicine because hey, I had I'm bipolar. 00:15:13 Speaker 4: Man. I couldn't. I would never say it that. I'd be like, ain't nothing wrong with me. 00:15:17 Speaker 5: I don't know what the hell going on or why I flipped out. I don't know why, but I ain't even trying to see why. It's like, but and then you kind of be like, damn, why the shit? Why this shit got to happen to me? 00:15:26 Speaker 4: You kind of like a blind thing like everybody else normal? What the fuck? I gotta go through this far? You see what I'm saying. 00:15:30 Speaker 6: But but I feel like you changed the world with that shit because you let niggas, people, women, kids, catch dog whoever know that, Hey, it's okay to have a problem that you have no control over. It's you're not like a weirdo, and it's nothing wrong with that. And you can get help for this, and you know, get people to try to get you under control. But there's nothing wrong with you for some shit that you can't. 00:15:53 Speaker 1: We all got undiagnosed issues. Brou don't give a fuck. This is not normal. Like you saying said something about in the Book of Life, if it was a spot back in Alabama, where a stadium what the name of what stadium? 00:16:08 Speaker 2: Ria? 00:16:08 Speaker 1: Black people had to eat in the back, still do so you gotta eat in the back by the trash can How you not gonna feel like yours? 00:16:15 Speaker 4: How it's a stadium grill? I ain't gonna even lie. 00:16:18 Speaker 5: My grandmama, my mama, like all of them used to love that stadium grill. And then it started like I start getting old. I'm like, why the fuck we can't go to the front. I knew why it was, but it's just like, while we still even spend our money with these people, but the food so good, people. 00:16:32 Speaker 4: Still gonna go to the back. That's what I'm trying to tay. 00:16:33 Speaker 5: They got the black folk down, are so messed up that it ain't even no issue. Let's just go to the back. You call it stuck mentality. It is a stuff mentality. But listen, I ain't gonna lie. They used to send me up there to get it for them, like go to the stadium grill and get me to two chicken sandwiches, and then me and my. 00:16:48 Speaker 4: Buddies were in the back. We live them. We bound stuff for our mama. That's just crazy. But you know we know we can't go. 00:16:54 Speaker 7: No. 00:16:54 Speaker 5: I never ever seen nobody go to the Shaton Grill in the front, not a black person. 00:16:58 Speaker 4: Damn you just seeing them in there playing pool. You see all that stuff. But you just in the back way might have trash can for yourself. In twenty twenty five here, Yeah, if. 00:17:08 Speaker 5: It's still open, they doing it. I'm telling you I'm gonna play. And Hobo Joe's you can even going now. I ain't no no back, ain't no front, no nothing. Just black people just don't go to Hobo Joe. But this this ship walking distance just like right by my church, right by my house and Alabama by ten something team. 00:17:22 Speaker 4: They should traumatize you. 00:17:24 Speaker 1: You say, uh, by the time you were ten about your brother, he was down there curious about the street. 00:17:29 Speaker 4: He've ben enjoining, You've been joining the game the g Yeah he finla get it? 00:17:32 Speaker 5: Yeah, jomping in, you know, jumping. Yeah, you got to get out of here that I now for real. Games had took over. Yeah, they had took over like like a bad in our little town. Like everybody was just getting in games. Especially I wasn't in it because I was like nine to ten. But I'm walking, I'm seeing it. 00:17:51 Speaker 4: You were next after Brugget. I'm looking at it like what this do? What they're doing? 00:17:57 Speaker 5: I remember they had they had some crew that O t H call on them holes. I remember that if you remember that, I remember that. I remember the name of the crew called ot H. 00:18:08 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:18:09 Speaker 3: Da are you in a place where like anybody that you had like issues within the past. 00:18:15 Speaker 2: Like you completely clean your heart and you. 00:18:17 Speaker 4: Fish like that. I don't got no issue with nobody. I might don't talk to them. 00:18:22 Speaker 5: It might be different circumstances why they don't talk to me, But I ain't mad at them. I don't even care. Back then be back back. It's so long, you know how to sit outside out of mind. It been nine years. 00:18:33 Speaker 4: I ain't talk to nobody who ain't had no like issues. Just leave it alone. It doesn't heal, you can heal. I'm past. 00:18:39 Speaker 1: It's gonna reopen if you try to see Nigga don't understand. Nigga asks me like, bro, why you you so hard to why you be like fucking you cousin? When I started trying to talk about it again with you, I don't gotta relive it. 00:18:48 Speaker 2: You gotta go back to that. 00:18:49 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:18:49 Speaker 1: So now it's like Nigga mad all over again that I ain't thinking about it. 00:18:53 Speaker 4: Just that what that is, That's what it is. Just that you know, not saying an't even like you stay your way. Man. 00:18:58 Speaker 5: We're so old now like that. It ain't even not in the cities twenty years later, ten years later. 00:19:04 Speaker 4: Yeah, come on, man. 00:19:06 Speaker 1: Nah, I was saying another thing about the book, Like when you was going through a lot of your episodes or whatever, people was looking at it as normal because all of us, like I said, all of us fucked though. So you was basically influencing niggas to be to take drugs and your music to be unhealthy. You know what I'm saying, because Nigga won't working out nothing that shit. But now that you're doing that, do you see people kind of following like I. 00:19:33 Speaker 5: See them following. People be telling me all the time like I inspire them. 00:19:36 Speaker 4: They proud of me. 00:19:37 Speaker 5: They see what I'm doing and they following my steps. So you know, I know the first time I was telling them to drink lane because that's what I was doing. 00:19:46 Speaker 8: Destruction, murder, buy like they want the old I'll be like, man, let him stay. 00:20:06 Speaker 2: With you right right right. 00:20:09 Speaker 3: B. 00:20:12 Speaker 4: Don't bring him back watching. 00:20:16 Speaker 3: They said an else when I get big, do you ever deal with any survivors remorse? Survivors remorse just kind of looking at old pictures like some of your partners might be going in the industry in the streets. You know what I'm saying, that you still. 00:20:33 Speaker 5: Even if they're not there, Like I don't got really no survivors rem because I feel like I started a family, you know what I'm saying. 00:20:40 Speaker 4: That's what I wanted to do. This just about my family. 00:20:42 Speaker 5: That's all I'm about, Like raising my family, being with my wife, raising my kids, trying to make some money, stay healthy, stay living. 00:20:50 Speaker 4: That's it. And like they take all my energy. What presented? What percentage do you give tish one hundred percent? I give hundred You got to give yourself so not give myself. 00:21:02 Speaker 5: I give myself one hundred percent too, But I give her Black because she a good example and she a good role model. Like a lot of stuff that I picked up from her, It's almost like I could have picked it up. 00:21:12 Speaker 4: From a friend. It wasn't even no girlfriend wife thing. It's just a friend thing. 00:21:16 Speaker 5: Like her business sense, the way she like saved money thanks, just a lot of stuff about business and money. 00:21:22 Speaker 4: Ain't gonna lie. I learned from her. She hold you accountable too. She held me account the super accounting. You know what I'm saying. And she good, she said a good example. She everything, your therapist, your wife, everything, she everything. 00:21:33 Speaker 5: I couldn't even do it. I couldn't even like, I wouldn't even want to go through life without them. 00:21:37 Speaker 7: Yeah, So that's what I want to ask you. 00:21:39 Speaker 6: Like, how like how Black was saying, how like when you were influencing people to do drugs and stuff like that, and then you changed your life around for the better with the working out, with the stop doing the drugs, and you were people were following that lead. How does it feel to know that on the flip side and on the other hand, people are also following your lead as far as how to be a man and how to be a husband, and how to be a father, and how to be like a role model in life for your family. 00:22:08 Speaker 5: It made me feel really good. I usually don't want to be a role model, but not embraced being a role model. I used to want to be no role model because I felt like I wasn't a good role model. 00:22:15 Speaker 4: So I'm like, I don't follow me. 00:22:17 Speaker 5: But now that I'm doing right, I'm like, I hope people following the I'm like even my artists, I hope. I'm like, I hope I lead by example. Yeah, I ain't just telling them what to do. I'm showing them, Like, do what I'm doing. You have the results I have, get our probation, you get on with your life. 00:22:31 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. So, yeah, I try to be I like, I like being a leader now. 00:22:36 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that looking back, like writing a book and just looking back reflecting on it. 00:22:41 Speaker 4: Do that sometimes fuck with you? They do. 00:22:43 Speaker 5: When I was like one time I read the bull that shit down and made me cry. My new book and my autobiographer just thinking about my old Alabama rules. How you know like that ship My mom was like, you know, I got a screened relationship with my mom. So just when I be talking about it and reading, when I read it, that ship down to make me cry. I don't even lie, and I don't I can say like I probably I don't cry. Funerals never cry. You know what I used to want to cry, like try to get tattoos, to feel pain because the episode should make you numb. But when you when I start, you start thinking about your granddaddy and all that they don't pass away, your grandmama, like that ship like it do make me emotional? 00:23:19 Speaker 1: Oh so so now you feel like this the real true meaning of growing up. Now you can feel empathy, You feel certain. 00:23:25 Speaker 4: Shit like I probably too hard on my moment. You know what I'm saying. 00:23:28 Speaker 5: Now that I'm a parent, I see like this ship ain't easy, you know what I'm saying, Like people, Yeah, I spend her to be perfect and beat up for me, and she can't do nothing. 00:23:36 Speaker 4: But what she can do, that's two she got dam When you. 00:23:40 Speaker 3: Start having like any type of moments where you know what I'm saying, your past call you. How do you deal with that trauma? 00:23:45 Speaker 2: Like? How do you stay on that straight and arrow? 00:23:47 Speaker 4: I don't never do it. I don't never have nothing to pull me back. It really don't. You're not even in space. Even in space, even. 00:23:53 Speaker 5: If somebody was to say something disrespectful, like it don't even hit hard. 00:23:57 Speaker 4: It don't even hit like water on the dunk back. It's just like it's a difference. 00:24:01 Speaker 1: It's like it's a difference in trying me now, like you can't try me with no word. You try me in my face and you prop that line. 00:24:07 Speaker 4: That's trying me. 00:24:08 Speaker 1: See, that's what I think. So many wars and so much bullshit because a nigga hears some niggas say shit online and feel like everybody, I gotta do something to this nigga, I gotta say something. 00:24:17 Speaker 4: But sometimes you do have to say something. But you really don't, you really don't. 00:24:21 Speaker 5: You really like you got to think about who you give me your time, your attention to, Like if they ain't worth it, don't give it to them. And somebody who just like either they like if you don't see me successful, you either got to be delusion them or you're jealous. 00:24:35 Speaker 4: I ain't got no words for you. Yeah, that's how a nigga like, you know what I mean? And if you can't see that I'm a different person. 00:24:41 Speaker 1: Do you feel like we know our roots and and the mars and shit that's in us ain't gonna never go to work, like you say, walk in them. But but do you feel as if though you're a totally different person? 00:24:53 Speaker 4: I do. 00:24:53 Speaker 5: I feel like I can grow the mature like the person I was that ten years ago, I'm not the same person, you know what I'm say, Like the person I used to be, I'm nowhere near that. Like, I'm way more mature, I'm way nicer, I'm way like I'm just not the same just mean person. 00:25:08 Speaker 4: That I used to be. 00:25:09 Speaker 5: Used to be just always like kind of like pessimistic, you know what I'm saying. Now I ain't pussing me. Now'm optimistic, you know what I'm saying. Now, I'm like total opposite. Now I can see good and stuff like I used to always see bad. I ain't like I used to be clothed like a closed book. Now I'm an open book. 00:25:23 Speaker 1: But nigga still knowledgeable that bullshit can happen, but I ain't expecting. 00:25:27 Speaker 4: It to happen. Basically, you know, I'm prevented. 00:25:30 Speaker 5: Yeah, if I know that the police don't like me that in the city I'm moving, You know what I mean. I ain't trying to force it. I ain't if the entooids get me in trouble, if like, Okay, maybe y'all might do something that y'all ain't even mean to doing it get me in trouble with no entourage. 00:25:44 Speaker 1: Do you feel as if though the reason why you don't try to mean relationships or talk to people because they. 00:25:50 Speaker 4: Don't even know y'all ain't even met me yet. 00:25:52 Speaker 1: Because I always say this, like, man, you gotta re meet me, Like there's a lot of niggas somewhere mad at the nigga that I ain't even that nigga no more. 00:25:58 Speaker 4: You get what I'm saying. 00:25:59 Speaker 5: I can't get like that. I can't gamble on what you own. I know what I'm on. Yeah, they say you might still be you know, some bullshit. So I'm just not gonna even deal with you. I ain't gonna give that chance to come around. Facts like you gotta watch you let come around. Everybody can't come around. Fact like that's a that's a privilege to let people come around you and see what you You know what I'm saying exactly, they come and seeing everything about you. 00:26:21 Speaker 4: Exactly. Not really. Ship, it ain't broke, don't fix it. This ship working, it's working. Don't work. It doesn't work. It didn't work. It didn't work. 00:26:30 Speaker 1: So how day to day life in Miami for you? You say you go to work, I mean you work out and need to be with the kids. 00:26:37 Speaker 5: But outside that, what you do, like you know, talking to the to my team for like looking for artists or you know, seeing what's going on with my artists, stuff with the label, and just that's it. 00:26:48 Speaker 1: You think niggas get like signed, because you might wake up and be like, you know what, I just looking at my books. 00:26:56 Speaker 4: What I know you have. I think people may that may that may be affect some people. 00:27:01 Speaker 5: But at the same time, like when I did that, that was just me saying like I'm gonna be more selective about who I signed and who I let be around me, you know what I'm saying. Some people, like they say, be around you for a season, Some people be around you for a couple of months, some people. 00:27:13 Speaker 4: Be around you for for years. 00:27:15 Speaker 5: You never know that, but once you see what it is, you kind of you got to make that decision. 00:27:18 Speaker 4: You know what I mean, I don't want to hold nobody. 00:27:20 Speaker 5: I don't want to drag it out, and I don't want to hold nobody base Like I'm making quick decisions about my business. If it didn't work in the year and we losing money, hey man, we don't got it. 00:27:29 Speaker 4: I'm gonna keep going. You can keep going, but why would I. 00:27:32 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna hear you while I keep losing money for in a minute, then my business is gonna be outside down, So I can't do that. 00:27:38 Speaker 4: What is it that you think? I think that that that should be niggas? 00:27:41 Speaker 5: You feel like that's a blessing, right it is, because most labor gonna hold yeah, figure it out, do something, But business. 00:27:49 Speaker 6: I think I think the problem with like a lot of niggas is, especially like in the music and like with rap, they feel. 00:27:57 Speaker 4: Entitled or embarrassed. 00:27:58 Speaker 6: It's like they feel like, Okay, well, this niggas supposed to do everything, and this niggas supposed to make me successful, like and not taking into accountability like the fact that you can't be where he's at if you haven't put in the work. 00:28:13 Speaker 4: That he's maid. A lot of successful of this, the ones. 00:28:18 Speaker 6: That didn't reach that same level. Yeah, I have to find somebody to blame for their shortcomings. And I think that that's what it is when they like try to strike back at him online or you know, try to strike back at him and try to say that this wasn't right or that wasn't right, or he didn't do this, he didn't do that, like god damn, like he did. 00:28:39 Speaker 4: Everything else and none of it. 00:28:42 Speaker 5: You know, I'm glad you said that Jay about the entitlement and none of these white executives doing the stuff that I be doing by and doing stuff which you put you on their platform doing songs like me and you where you at? 00:28:55 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, giving you cash. They ain't doing that. 00:28:57 Speaker 5: But so it's like you got a whole different like uh scoreboard, what you gotta do if you're a black executive as opposed to a white executive with these same artists, you know what I'm saying. So that's what said. I know, I did what I supposed to do. If it didn't work out, you know what I'm saying, ain't it ain't nobody fault. You ain't got to blame me, an got to blame you. We just move on. 00:29:15 Speaker 4: Roll of the day. 00:29:16 Speaker 5: Yeah, shisty home, he's still he's still on the label one hundred percent. I got big plans for shysting Man. That's that's that's who I've been waiting on. 00:29:24 Speaker 4: Shh. 00:29:24 Speaker 5: Yeah, so you go up now and food Fin to come out too, And I got big plans for him too. I got just executed these right on time. Bru It's it's various, same times now, I've been waiting on them. I can't lie. 00:29:36 Speaker 4: Who would play the young Guca in your movie? I like, Uh, what's the dude plays? You know? Far oh yo? 00:29:43 Speaker 5: I think I think he can pull it out. You think he'll pull it out? That's who I wanted to play it. 00:29:49 Speaker 7: That's hard now that that's out there. 00:29:51 Speaker 4: Who what you want to shoot it with? So we need to go into plan see No, you're right, I want to do this ship for real? Say who would I shoot it with? I'm not sure? 00:30:00 Speaker 1: Would you see it be in an episode or a series like Power of BMF. 00:30:04 Speaker 4: He can be a series or could be a movie either. Whish want to work? 00:30:07 Speaker 2: I want to see a serious Yes serious. 00:30:09 Speaker 5: Somebody just told me my body, God told me about I need to do a serious today. That's crazy, Like, want you turn that into a serious because at the end of the day, you can you can really reenact there? 00:30:20 Speaker 4: Can you do that? But I person to do it? Yeah? Yeah, can you re enact it? Because I know, like I asked you earlier when we're like, why you need to read the whole book? 00:30:28 Speaker 1: Because when you first started off he and your voice, it's crazy read like saying that ship and you were like that should take too long. 00:30:33 Speaker 4: It's too too long? So can you would you do that? 00:30:35 Speaker 2: Though? 00:30:36 Speaker 4: I would act? I would love to. I think I can. I think I can put it off. I think I can do it. You know what I'm saying. They give me the chant, give me. 00:30:42 Speaker 1: The shot, the tyler, who we ever got the bad whoever? 00:30:48 Speaker 5: Like really passionate about it and like they want to do it. Yeah, I understand my story. Okay, you know what I'm saying. 00:30:54 Speaker 4: I like it. 00:30:54 Speaker 5: It'll be doing a lot of good stuff. We talked, We talked about it on the phone. 00:30:57 Speaker 4: That's her. He can too, Yeah, that's should be. That should be crazy. I'm I'm oh wait, I'm a country to know. I was saying, you got pull up Black Black, one of my heart artists. 00:31:22 Speaker 1: But you like this man, call you your heart but coach through your brother's side. 00:31:27 Speaker 5: Yeah you, I think you're gonna come in and give me want to try it out? 00:31:33 Speaker 8: Try? 00:31:34 Speaker 4: Yeah? We did. 00:31:36 Speaker 2: It's a good rugs we got. We gotta talk about this Gucci tree. 00:31:40 Speaker 5: Man. 00:31:40 Speaker 3: When you talk about everything you don't put your hands on that don't turn the gold or more, there's the Gucci tree and everybody that you put on and help get there make you feel like you're the goat because we talk about the gold all the time. 00:31:54 Speaker 4: I ain't gonna lie I do. 00:31:55 Speaker 5: I feel like you know that, but I can see what everybody say about different people everybody. 00:32:01 Speaker 4: You know. 00:32:02 Speaker 5: That's just my opinion, but I'd be adding in, like, damn, how many artists I hadn't helped, You know what I'm saying. 00:32:07 Speaker 4: And then what I did when I got out of jail too. 00:32:09 Speaker 5: You got to take that into account too, because I had my first part of my career and then I had the second part of my career, like I got out in twenty sixteen, I did. This is my nineteenth album since I got out. This is my third book, and after nineteen albums, five of them like went platinum four on went Goal nineteen. Ever since you've been out, since I been out of twenty sixteen, it's gonna be Episode is gonna be my nineteenth album five almost five arm platinum, four of them Goal, the other ten probably still did. 00:32:38 Speaker 4: Okay. 00:32:39 Speaker 5: I feel like before I was dropping mistakes and mistakes and mistakes. I've still been prolific since I got out. But now I never went going platinum and shit like that before. Now I'm going platinum platinum. My artists went double platinum. 00:32:50 Speaker 4: I ain't had that. 00:32:51 Speaker 1: Success before, like this, Yeah, out of all the niggas you had hand in hipping, who shocked you? 00:32:57 Speaker 4: Like? Damn A know, there'n gonna be that though? Who shot me? I say who you didn't? Who you? Who? You saw it on it? They was gonna be that big the migo. 00:33:14 Speaker 5: You remember how I told like but even Hard, but you didn't say that about everybody. 00:33:18 Speaker 4: Give who it is the. 00:33:20 Speaker 1: Studio because Hard it ain't gonna be no rapper, bro hard producers, A lot of producers up to. 00:33:28 Speaker 4: Now I did and DJ J. Yeah, that on happened. Man. That's why I feel like I'm to go. 00:33:40 Speaker 2: We haven't had debate on big facts. 00:33:46 Speaker 5: Like that Now, I see y'all have that, and I appreciate y'all. Y'all can put me up that high. I remember y'all talking about that. 00:33:51 Speaker 4: You know, I'm gonna save Pluto is the goat, like far as as an artist. Now, you gotta go Pluto the truth, That's what I'm saying. 00:33:57 Speaker 1: But as far as god damn cultural after slash, niggas want to be this nigga and all that ship and what you called and during all the bullshit and but it's. 00:34:11 Speaker 2: Just like real ship. 00:34:12 Speaker 6: Like if it wasn't for him, Oh, we wouldn't A lot of these a lot of man damn near all of this ship would be unheard of. All of these niggas that are out now would be unheard of if it wasn't for his watering of their seeds and their plants. 00:34:28 Speaker 4: Interview cam Cam just said the same ship. Yeah yet Cam just said the same ship. So you got to start up there, you know he did right there? 00:34:40 Speaker 7: Another branch. 00:34:41 Speaker 1: But how make you feel like when you go places outside of like out the. 00:34:46 Speaker 5: Country and ship, No, that's crazy. I ain't gonna I love going out the country. That should be really surprising to see how they know the music like that and know the like they're bigger fans than over here, like serious, they know every word, they go harder. I don't got no shame of the show. They ain't trying to be cool. They merg Yeah, they got to merge. They got the CD. They standing in front of the hotel. Yes, yeah, yep. 00:35:11 Speaker 6: Solid question because we were talking about this earlier or whatever. But I was having some of my homeboys were having a debate in the discussion, and they called me to get my opinions. So the question was who is the biggest artist in their prime? 00:35:25 Speaker 7: Bow Wow or why B And my thing hold on. 00:35:29 Speaker 6: My thing that I said was, I said, it's an unfair comparison because at the end of the day, you got bow Wow over here, who's been rapping since he was a kid. He never had any hiccups, He's had numerous endorsements, you know, like he had the kiddy shit, he had the females, you know, whatever, whatever, But you got y B over here, who for the majority of his teenage and adult life has been incarcerated. So no, that's what I'm saying. He hadn't even reached his prime. But at the end of the day, his reach is a more total reach than bow Wow was, because why be touches grown men? Why be touches grandmis? Why be touches kids? Why be touches security guards? Why be touches police officers? 00:36:20 Speaker 2: Palms? 00:36:29 Speaker 6: But like if you like, he's selling out sixteen seventeen thousand sitars by hisself with not even a mention of a friend or an artist or no ship like that, and he got grown men, old women, kids, fucking the police officers that are securing the ship. All these people in real life tears because they feel his pain and no offense to what bow Wow has gone on, because that's my nigga. 00:36:54 Speaker 7: And you know what I'm saying. 00:36:55 Speaker 6: I respect to the fullest everything that he's accomplished, but. 00:37:00 Speaker 7: It's not it's not it's not that same type of touch. 00:37:04 Speaker 2: Like I feel like they're in different lanes though. 00:37:08 Speaker 4: You know that's what I said. You can't compare. 00:37:10 Speaker 6: But it's like you, it's it's two different it's two different standards. 00:37:15 Speaker 7: But I wanted to get y'all's opinion on what y'all thought about that pause. 00:37:20 Speaker 1: I don't know. 00:37:21 Speaker 5: I remember the the JD and bow Wow era, Yeah, and I ain't gonna like jd Is Demne is somebody who I usually look up to, like for being a CEO and putting on artists. So it's kind of hard when you compared like a parent Joined in COVID, I mean Joining and lebron By being different times. It's just hit different, you know what I'm saying. It seemed like the mania that's going with young boys just super duper manium. But you'll forget about the mania that going on with Bow and how he had that. Yeah, so I say it's like it's like almost parallel. 00:37:50 Speaker 7: Like Apples and Origins type ship. 00:37:52 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is what I want to know, what the people want to know. Gucci as a person who did probably the most legendary versus cash money or no living. 00:38:02 Speaker 2: When this versus go down, what you think? 00:38:03 Speaker 5: Whoa by? That's serious? I like both of them a lot. I ain't gonna lie. I love No Limit and I love cash Money. 00:38:10 Speaker 2: Who inspired you more? 00:38:13 Speaker 5: When I used to be going to school in high school, like we used to get everything that people put out. We listen to Peeple, We can't wait to pe Verse. Come on, he had a million were listening. Ain't on p Verse. So I'm really a super duper No Limit fan. But I got and I got a relationship with Pete, with with Pee, but I got a relationship with Bird and Slam too, and I have a lot of respect for them and they inspired me too. I ain't gonna lie. Both of them inspired me a lot, both of them, super Dog. I can't really pick with you. 00:38:40 Speaker 1: Fair, that's fair, But the verses inside, Now, you're right, I agree with that one I'm saying, But the verses inside of twenty twenty five, it's a lot of these people don't know nothing about No No Limit. 00:38:49 Speaker 4: They know about this new cash money. Yeah, now you're right. 00:38:51 Speaker 7: Yeah, but that's what I was telling you. 00:38:53 Speaker 6: That's what I was saying the screen because No Limit, what were the pioneers that us? 00:38:59 Speaker 4: I got respect on the Limit. You're not looking at the back of the. 00:39:06 Speaker 7: That pen and pixel cover. 00:39:08 Speaker 6: Every album was like a fucking It was a staple in our times. But it's just like in comparison to the Cash Money and no disrespect to anybody, it's just the stretch over the years to keep the name in the face relevant has been a little bit greater for Cash Money because they've they've they've stretched it out from then to now. 00:39:33 Speaker 4: He know you said about the verses. 00:39:34 Speaker 1: Do you feel like when you know Matthew did that and then he did a Jesus did I mean, did his part you felt tell. 00:39:41 Speaker 4: Of like, damn, you need to got over there. Now. 00:39:44 Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you some I ain't never said this, dude, after I did what I did. 00:39:49 Speaker 4: What's song I did? 00:39:51 Speaker 3: Uh? 00:39:52 Speaker 4: The truth? 00:39:52 Speaker 6: The truth. 00:39:53 Speaker 5: I'm glad that he stopped and did what he did because if he would have played state scrapped, I don't think I could have taken. 00:40:02 Speaker 4: I'm telling you that's what. 00:40:04 Speaker 5: Like he I guess he's saying the situation said, let's just calming down, because it would have just it would been like a voutcan you was. 00:40:10 Speaker 4: Already ready to go there. I seen you moving, I seen I was ready. 00:40:13 Speaker 5: I was ready to go down. I really I remember was in the heat of the moment. I didn't intend for it to be like that. I ain't intend to go there like that. But then it's like once you get that, like it's just man, it's just clubs off. 00:40:26 Speaker 1: That why you can't say She was saying, you can't revisit situations because you don't know how you like. 00:40:32 Speaker 5: I don't know how I know how, I ain't even know like the stuff I said and all that, like none of that was playing that Jonas you know you just it was just yeah, it was just whole. 00:40:41 Speaker 3: Like oh. 00:40:48 Speaker 1: Jesuss kind of for the grown folk, you know what brushed in all the brinds did all that he did. 00:40:54 Speaker 4: Then that ship kind of was hard too. Yeah, I respected it. Yeah, come stas. I thought that I'm the level headed one. 00:41:05 Speaker 5: You know, I'm like mature now, so like de side of me don't come out no more. So That's how I came and going into the verses. But once I started the verses, it seemed like he was more level headed and calm than I was. You feel me because I'm dropping dishrugs. He didn't drop no disrug you feel me. But that's how I looked at it, like damn. So it kind of made me with you with you I had I had, I had, I had it with me. 00:41:27 Speaker 4: What they were saying when you the. 00:41:30 Speaker 5: Players, they rap, they ready, they ready, they with it, they want to go. I gotta stop until hell, look, don't do that way like the energy probably made like my do energy? 00:41:42 Speaker 4: They ready? Oh so he had to figure out a way to be Like I. 00:41:45 Speaker 5: Ain't saying he had to, but you know what I'm saying. I feel like it was smart. That was smart, and like it brought everything to like a respect level. Like from then on we kind of like we ain't been no disrespect since then. 00:41:56 Speaker 4: I said, I seen that. You know, I'm having them back and forth with my. 00:41:59 Speaker 1: Kids, like no, man was really Jesus did some grown man. That's just how I felt when I seen it. It don't matter what I know what shout on. I know he back his own seat, right though. 00:42:13 Speaker 5: I couldn't do that, but respect it because it's like if I dish you and you don't disc back and you go there. 00:42:19 Speaker 4: I respect that. 00:42:20 Speaker 5: Yeah, I respect that because you could have to you so at that moment you do thinking about the bigger picture. 00:42:26 Speaker 4: You ain't crash out. You been That's smart. 00:42:31 Speaker 2: They said. Else when I got big fat, did he call you the Swiss of Temple? Like who calls you? What was your reaction when you got that call? 00:42:41 Speaker 5: I think I think they said it like on internet he said like he did an interview and was like if I do do a versus he had to be against Gucci and then from now, I think Swiss beat calming legendary. 00:42:52 Speaker 4: Though who else with you? With you? They probably they trying to get you to do somebody Rick Ross or somebody who they trying. I said I would have did it with I too. 00:43:02 Speaker 1: Yeah, one tip show now I for tip. 00:43:07 Speaker 5: Now men tip. We put our differences besides this and shot hands. Everything all good, that's what's up. 00:43:15 Speaker 2: That's great to see you in this space. Man. 00:43:16 Speaker 3: Do you feel like when you start letting all that ship though the blessed is just flowing? 00:43:21 Speaker 5: Yeah, y'are like, man that ship like it's we're too old for that. We're too grown for that, and we need to say the example. We need to say an example for the other. I was just like, okay, y'all can be at it. Y'all, y'all got to kill each other, you know what I'm saying. If y'all got it, like, yeah, y'all agree to disagree. Y'alln't got to be friends, but y'all ain't got to be disrespectful. Hey, when you see some ship online, how you keep from like not coming on ship? 00:43:42 Speaker 4: Like? You know what I'm saying? 00:43:44 Speaker 7: The old do you even look online? 00:43:46 Speaker 4: I look online? 00:43:47 Speaker 5: Look I see everything everything. 00:43:52 Speaker 4: I just don't come in on it. Yeah, I see it. How you saying? What do you ever be wanting to? Though? 00:43:58 Speaker 5: Sometimes I might vent my buddy and just vent. I don't know, like like you know what I'm saying, You just vent, but I don't don't take it to the next I feel like you you take it to even though I know how Twitter do I say, I'm going through episode. I feel like you laying when you take ship to the internet and you come in and all that, I feel like that's the laming ship you can do. 00:44:17 Speaker 4: I got caught from this ship. What happened black? You know on the internet? Oh yeah, yeah, that happened sometimes. 00:44:24 Speaker 5: Yeah, but sometimes like when somebody like I didn't did that before too, Like I made that mistaken you know what I'm saying, clear some stuff up on the online because I felt like something I was like subliminately this in me. 00:44:35 Speaker 1: I don't fuck with you you're doing you know. 00:44:41 Speaker 4: You looking back on that ship. What you laughing at this ship? It be fine And I ain't gonna lie be cause that ship was it was in the moment. 00:44:50 Speaker 1: No, you can't aqu you gotta quiet that day. 00:44:57 Speaker 2: Man's nothing funny than when him and rock Over be kicking it, man. 00:45:01 Speaker 4: About I went hard on. I regretted that nothing, but I regretted that. 00:45:09 Speaker 5: I was like damn and he and then he told it like he still wanted to fuck with me, Like, man, you said some wild stuff about me, but I still want to do a song, he told Mike, And I'm like, yeah, I do it with because I do respect him. 00:45:20 Speaker 4: But at that moment, I was high and just talking. You know what I'm saying. 00:45:23 Speaker 1: But interview, I'm trying to keep the straight face that they created the internet. Don't forget so ship you trying to put behind your ship? 00:45:32 Speaker 4: It goes ral again. 00:45:33 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, right, And I like to say this too, like far as. Like with the episodes I know we were talking about earlier, I felt good there. Like after I had them episodes and got out a lot of them people, I reached out to it and say, hey, I'm sorry, I'm going through something went well then them folks like I forgive you. You know what I'm saying, Like I said some bullshit about Drake, text them some crazy jump but once I was going through episode so I can't had to hit him back and be like I'm sorry, about that. 00:45:56 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 00:45:57 Speaker 5: I was going through something and he was like, man, you know we're gonna get past. Their brothers go through stuff. Brad felt so good that like people in like understood because I'm straight, like I'm sorry, I'm sorry to everybody said anything. Come just tweet. I'm just texting people and I might diet that the thirty people. Some people like don't want to hear you said something that was so officive. They just don't fuck with me no more. But a lot of people like, man, we're gonna get past that. It ain't no big deal. 00:46:19 Speaker 4: And I'm like appreciative for. 00:46:22 Speaker 1: Yeah, but do you do you appreciate it so much because you know, like I probably want to forgive you. 00:46:28 Speaker 5: No, I'm like that too, for real. It's like that, like I probably want to forgive. It's people who I won't forgive. They won't they don't get no comeback, they can't come around me no more. But somebody forgave me. 00:46:39 Speaker 1: Though, So that makes you be like, damn, I really take that to heart because I know how I am, Like I really hold a grill to you. 00:46:44 Speaker 3: Go. 00:46:44 Speaker 5: But let me say for an instant, like Stull said, some stuff about me and whatever, right, and they came on the internet. But then he made a song say I missed my Dogs about me. I immediately accept the policy because I've been there and I wanted somebody to forgive me. I know how that It's like it's like a wait on you. You know what I'm saying. You want somebody like brother, It's okay, you know what I mean. I ain't talk to him, Yeah, but like I do forgive Yeah, I forgive him. 00:47:09 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:47:10 Speaker 2: At this point, man, you know what I'm saying for Gucci, Like, what is the future? 00:47:14 Speaker 4: Man? 00:47:15 Speaker 2: What are the next wins for Gucci? You know what I'm saying, because you got so much in your super. 00:47:19 Speaker 5: Duper focused on Pooh and the plans I got for him, super duper focused on foot on he get out. I ain't really super like into making music like I used to be trying to make a If I make an album every once every two years for the rest of you know what I'm saying, the duration of my career, that probably what I'm. 00:47:35 Speaker 4: Gonna be at with it. Like I ain't gonna be putting. 00:47:37 Speaker 5: Out music the way I used to put out I'm still be looking for artists and trying to help artists. So I guess I'm about like transition more in my executive side. And you know what I'm saying, But movies, I'm down with the movie. I love I like doing books. I want to do another book. I want to do a like a a wife having a good wife, and like what you called a marriage book, couples books something like that. Come and my wife will be married to years in twenty twenty seven. So I'm already got in my mind like when I five ten year anniversary, we need to do a boat and show covers, like how to what y'all got to do this? 00:48:10 Speaker 4: Stay together? 00:48:11 Speaker 1: It's crazy how I know that you were gonna be with this later all of the time, because even at your lord's point of your episode, whatever, my girl, we got go miam some my girl. 00:48:20 Speaker 4: Yeah that my girl, My girl. Don't play about her girl. My girl, she did. I ain't doing a thing to god. Damn you got my girl, my girl, My girl gotta have somebody to have your back. 00:48:31 Speaker 5: At least I got somebody who got my back one hundred percent. 00:48:35 Speaker 4: You're not like black you married. 00:48:36 Speaker 5: I remember back then, it's just like damn black married he got structure that marriage, like, give you structured. 00:48:42 Speaker 4: Hey. 00:48:42 Speaker 1: So so the next episode we're gonna be down well episode big for the episode, we're gonna. 00:48:48 Speaker 4: Be on the boat in Miami. I'm with Pool, I'm with it you and in food. 00:48:53 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean we're gonna do that. Yeah, I mean we're gonna do that. Locked in, that's locked down a hundred percent. I can't wait to do it. 00:49:01 Speaker 4: So so you just got poor food. That's it, that's it, that's all you need. That's all I need to heavy hitters. You know what about these girls? You liking what the girls been knowing? 00:49:08 Speaker 7: Man? 00:49:08 Speaker 5: I love what these girls doing. I wish I could have signed one of them. I tried to sign Buna be, I tried to sign Pluto. 00:49:15 Speaker 4: Why can't so hard? She the hard? God? I see you with the girl ever since? Huh that shot the giant you know that? Yeah? Y yeah, she hard. Take me through that, you know, do that? Getro got there right there with you. I say that, he do it again, But you gotta said it like I do want a girl though, I want a girl artist. I want a girl artist. That's what I'm looking for. And then you be you'll be uh be done complete, I'll be complete. 00:49:53 Speaker 5: I'm still looking for other artists who though I'm looking m it just ain't really been nothing that I like, you know, besides the girl else, it ain't really been there. 00:50:00 Speaker 4: And I've been like. 00:50:01 Speaker 5: Super like excited about group ship. Don't never work out trying to sound a group. It ain't worked out for me, ain't worked out yet. But the Migos Migo probably the dopest group we had in a long time. And if you think about it, only group group. 00:50:17 Speaker 4: Nah, Yeah, shout out to the Migo. So who who? 00:50:20 Speaker 2: Who? 00:50:21 Speaker 4: Who you're listening to? 00:50:22 Speaker 5: Who I'm listening to right now? Man, I've been listening to louther Vandrad. I've been listening to Michael Jackson, Al Green, I love Dolf. I listened to Dolph ill work out just to get inspired. Who else I've been listening to? Uh, I've been listened to some Tupac. I ain't be listened to a lot of like that's what I've been listening to. Like I be listening, you know, when I work out and stuff like that. I try to put on some music that I can just ride through the whole album. So that's why I name them people right there, because that's what I've been like, wake up in the morning, that's what I put on. 00:50:55 Speaker 4: I love I've been listened to a lot of dolt though. 00:50:57 Speaker 2: I love sweet Ship, but I stay away. 00:51:05 Speaker 4: The club. 00:51:05 Speaker 1: I was so geeked up. They telling me I need to do this right quicker. While I got him, you didn't got there. 00:51:11 Speaker 4: I get to record a bagered to bring everybody's the house. Uh two chains scrapping Jodie Breath. I'm talking about you see them at the club, brain want to go over here go the gambling. They cooled the motherfuckers up in three minutes or less, and they be all hard y'all his hands blessed man facts. 00:51:35 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, do you ever do a podcast? 00:51:39 Speaker 4: Hell no, hell I ain't saying like that. I feel like when Robert start doing the podcast, they falling off. Yeah all over. 00:51:49 Speaker 5: Robber started doing the it's like it started. I ain't saying that everybody, everybody, He's just trying to make some ships. 00:51:56 Speaker 4: It's done. It's done. I ain't saying no bad thing I call. But you asked me what I do? Hell no, no, you said you said that like they're like going on love hip hop. 00:52:09 Speaker 5: I love y'all podcast. But I said for rappers who do I don't like rappers podcasts. R don't like the rapper podcasts. 00:52:19 Speaker 4: A little bit. 00:52:20 Speaker 5: Ye's too much. I seem too much. You know what it is, man, it is everybody don't got to state their opinion. Like everybody don't. I don't care what everybody says something that just because you're aist. 00:52:32 Speaker 4: I don't know. 00:52:33 Speaker 2: I want to hear you take away, take take a little bit away from like start them to because. 00:52:39 Speaker 4: Every week and man, come on stopping. 00:52:42 Speaker 1: So I be trying to be so opinionated on it because I just you know, we just state the fact, you know, because I be wanting to say a lot of ship, you know, like how people be talking about in the news. 00:52:52 Speaker 2: Ship. 00:52:52 Speaker 4: We won't do that. We just have like. 00:52:56 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like the topics, like you know, the hot everybody. Yeah, I can't like you said, I can't take a this back. 00:53:04 Speaker 5: Yeah you got to be able to if you know you can't take this back, then you said something about yourself, like at least you honest with yourself. 00:53:10 Speaker 4: Yeah. I just I don't gonna stop them say something else something, So I just stay out nigga. 00:53:20 Speaker 1: You know, if somebody bring it up or something, I ain't got no trouble to say something like just being a nigga that hey man, y'all heard about this today, such and such such as like this, nah man, because people are sensible about their ship saying niggas be talking about niggas whis and ship like y'all niggas is crazy. 00:53:34 Speaker 5: And you're gonna alienate all your future guests. People don't see that and be like, I don't even want to go up there for. 00:53:39 Speaker 4: Real, but now that you want to come up here sometimes and then used to be like. 00:53:44 Speaker 5: Like you go get interviewed, people trying at the interview say something disrespectful to you and be like, I ain't. 00:53:49 Speaker 4: Meanny boy, I just wanted to go vie can't virus the simple batterer here. I ain't known another thing. 00:54:07 Speaker 6: That you got coming up on New Year's Eve, your second annual Symphony Orchestra and what is it called? 00:54:15 Speaker 5: I stuff in masses. I would love for y'all to come and interview me from now. 00:54:20 Speaker 2: Seriously in Atlanta, and it's gonna be suited. 00:54:25 Speaker 5: And man, I thought about that. I thought about that. I swear to god Like Damn. I remember we did I did a show and dad is someone y'all. Y'all was interviewing people outside the show, was like, man, I want blacken them to come to my shop. 00:54:36 Speaker 4: I want my ship to be kind of spin to be big and a lot of stuff on. You gotta have it on me too, me too. 00:54:45 Speaker 6: Shout out together. 00:54:49 Speaker 4: No, that's dope. 00:54:50 Speaker 1: Like everything you're doing is just super inspired because of nigga for a nigga that know you you know what I'm saying, And I know how fan probably look at it too, because they you know, they they them you more than nigga. 00:55:00 Speaker 4: Around because they be in detail. 00:55:03 Speaker 1: But you said on there like you looked in the mirror and looked in your eyes and you saw like basically back in the days when you're looking in the mirror, look in your eyes, you know what do you see? 00:55:12 Speaker 5: I see my father, I see a husband, and then I see an artist last you know what I mean. So it's like my what I care more about is like my kids and my family, you know what I'm saying. So I mostly see a family. 00:55:25 Speaker 4: Man at this age, my like I look at me, it's just like that's where I'm at right now. 00:55:30 Speaker 2: So you so. 00:55:32 Speaker 1: There's no other joy you get outside of Like, can't nothing else make you as happy as your kids and your wife. 00:55:38 Speaker 4: And making money. I still get geeked up by making money and and getting my goals about the Ice. I love Ice now, I love you. Don't want you don't want the ice you. 00:55:52 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? 00:55:53 Speaker 4: I just got different, fizzy new picking ring from fizzing. 00:55:58 Speaker 7: Corey. 00:55:58 Speaker 4: Everybody over there, look understanding, round it out of the big fat understand Forever Rocky Ice. 00:56:14 Speaker 5: I'm forever Ice. Take a motherfucker a million dollars my wife bottle. You never see nobody gonna come big fast with his watch on, nobody thinking about him? 00:56:24 Speaker 4: No million. 00:56:30 Speaker 2: What we're talking about? What we're talking about? What back then? What what inspired that Bart Simpsons? 00:56:37 Speaker 4: Because that had to be the artist I wanted to Christian snow Man. 00:56:41 Speaker 2: Gotch say lest so you were fueled off of that man? 00:56:46 Speaker 4: What's your set up here right now? Though? Like right now, I got a million right here, I got a million dollar necklace on. 00:56:52 Speaker 5: Okay, and probably got like we're from niggas and one of them just want big nigga's like over a million dollars and all one ain't don't cost so much as the big one, so it ain't even still say about one hundred yeah, but in't a million. 00:57:07 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you got on us. I want us years years to fifty. Who like Birdlezzy the bracelet. 00:57:23 Speaker 5: This bracelet came with this necklace, so I about that that that was over me. And then this breaslet came with this necklace. I say about centy five grand. It's about three years old, like one two on the low end, yeah, three million light that don't like that? And I ain't even breaking. I ain't want to be too much. I started saying like, damn, I need to be my seven bring all my year about it, bro, I said, man, I should be my See I'm doing on the. 00:57:50 Speaker 4: Boat, Yes, on the boat. Got interview. 00:57:53 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, we really appreciate you putting up. I don't think we're done, but we really appreciate you putting. 00:58:00 Speaker 4: Talking with y'all. 00:58:01 Speaker 5: You know that there was like this like talking to family. This this ain't no being just like personal. You see, I told y'all coming up here to y'all, I'm the one who bought this interview. 00:58:10 Speaker 2: Always Gucci always keep his word. He would say, what do you hear me? 00:58:13 Speaker 1: He said, don't do it, And y'all need to don't be scared to as me ship, bro, don't be the table because it ain't really nothing else to ask you about. 00:58:21 Speaker 4: Now, y'all did goody damn good. 00:58:23 Speaker 1: I enjoyed this, said, but y'alligga be like will I'll be going to interview people like they're scared to talk to me. 00:58:30 Speaker 5: You know why, asked a good question. But you know why, Gucci, I know why. But yeah, you come different. Ask me about that ship because I ain't scared to talk about it. 00:58:40 Speaker 4: It was the ship that's going on with you that people might not know that Geen shared in the world yet some stuff that's going on with me that I haven't shared to the world. 00:58:50 Speaker 7: And also when you get done with that, some ship that you like to do in your spare time, that people might not know some things. 00:58:55 Speaker 4: Okay, I haven't bought a car since twenty twenty. 00:58:59 Speaker 5: People wouldn't believe that I used to buy I haven't about a car since I got I got one and I got one car. 00:59:05 Speaker 4: I used to have seven eight cars. Now for the last five years I had one. I got one car. Just a founder because you know you won't be driving me. Let me drive. I take the kids to school and the family. Though your wife got them call now she got more cars, and. 00:59:16 Speaker 5: She got a Lamber again, and she got rose Rush, she got two two rods Russ and lambaginning. 00:59:23 Speaker 6: So do you think that came with that also came with you growing up and with you maturing and understanding that the necessity is not really like the ship. 00:59:32 Speaker 7: That you overally think that you need. 00:59:34 Speaker 5: Yep, I can grow it up to the point where I don't even be like a fascinated with the cars like I used to be. I used to want it like now that it don't even make it. Don't even like cite me like I used to. It's like, who need all them cars? I can't drive them? 00:59:47 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I mean. 00:59:48 Speaker 5: The ice just so different the ice because I'm still performing all the time. I'm still on the stage and I like to come on, you know that's my look. It's the ice, man. Yeah, you feel I got a cold the ice in the game. Ain't nobody fuck with me with the ji and my ship, my ship, because don't be that bullshit be cause call listen everything I buy be a million dollars. Now, why it's gonna be a million dollars. Chain got to be a million dollars. The rings gotta be a million dollar. If I would brought my other rings on here, y'all, I coudn't even see. 01:00:20 Speaker 2: Yeah, like what you think about everybody in all these Lab Diamonds, the. 01:00:28 Speaker 4: Lab diamond Ship. 01:00:29 Speaker 5: By the time they came out with the Lab Diamonds, I had stopped really buying ji like that, Like when I just about this ring, but behind it, like all this stuff I bought that, Like, I ain't be buying. 01:00:38 Speaker 4: Ship like that. You don't know if a nigga got to do that for a kid. I don't think I'm with the Lab diamond Ship, you, says another nigga, Like, I don't know nobody for now. 01:00:46 Speaker 5: I don't being nobody business like that, But I feel like that's faking though. 01:00:50 Speaker 4: Hey, hey man, that's what I think. 01:00:51 Speaker 6: I'm no, And it's nothing wrong with that, but gives it's more of an internal thing to feel like you. 01:01:00 Speaker 4: Have to do that, to put on somebody do that for your That wouldn't do nothing for yourself. 01:01:04 Speaker 5: It wouldn't do like they're like saying, Okay, ship to Washington. Just be fake, then you don't got to be the real one. But we said earlier, man, you got it like I'm gonna know it's fake. 01:01:12 Speaker 4: I can't be I'm not. 01:01:16 Speaker 2: People like na we said earlier. Some of the rules changed though for the young, for. 01:01:22 Speaker 4: The young people. But I'm not young. I'm not. 01:01:26 Speaker 5: Sug my ways in that right now. I feel stuck my ways on that because this is my thing. IM not saying I ever would be in that position. But what if you did want to reset it, if you needed the money, you can. 01:01:37 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. You can't resell that ship because it ain't worth them. But that's the different. 01:01:41 Speaker 1: When niggas got the money to buy the ship, that don't lose exactly when you But when you when you only got the money. 01:01:46 Speaker 4: To buy some ship they're gonna lose. You might well buy the fake ship. Well, you don't got to. You don't got to buy it at all. 01:01:53 Speaker 1: And I'm just saying, niggas costumes you feel like they need on them. Y'all set a standard bro that niggas knowing like Brodie, folks ain't gonna. 01:02:02 Speaker 4: Want to hit it. You can. 01:02:03 Speaker 6: That's my whole thing to feel like, to feel like you need no worry about it, to fund that phone, to feel like you need to have a costume. 01:02:10 Speaker 4: One is a character flaws, that is, that is I believe that too. 01:02:14 Speaker 5: It's like if it's like, okay, if you a big timeed dope, I don't want to like a big timeed upe dealer with the juror. But she ain't, you know, big timeed up. You don't got the money. You want to be looking like a big time rapper, but you ain't got the money. You don't don't buy, don't buy nothing. 01:02:25 Speaker 4: But y'all come from a different era when an age of attention. Right now though. 01:02:31 Speaker 1: Evenna get no pussy, bro nigga, I don't want to put I'm just telling you, bro, I'm just playing the devil advocation. 01:02:46 Speaker 2: He ain't saying he agreed. 01:02:50 Speaker 4: I'm just saying, but it's like the gror waste. 01:02:55 Speaker 1: Your race has been wing niggas like this and Floyd and all you gonna spend. I can't spend no motherfucker, Jerry, So why the funk I look like pulling up with a would the god damn now I was playing. It ain't like you went playing You know what I'm saying, trying to put on I gotta downon. 01:03:08 Speaker 4: Watch and then you got a meeting. I was down watch something. But you gotta stay your lane is not you know what I'm saying. 01:03:14 Speaker 5: You gotta stand in your line if your if your lane is an Apple Watch, go Apple. 01:03:19 Speaker 4: That's me, you know what I'm saying. Apple Watch. 01:03:23 Speaker 5: Ain't nothing like even me like I'll be doing. I'm so like with the Jewy Ship, I be coming around with no jer and I feel the same. 01:03:30 Speaker 4: Way y'all missing artists trying to get a game. 01:03:35 Speaker 5: You gotta you gotta recognize where you're at, like you gotta save your money. You can't start at the top and try to do this. You can't come in game trying to look at like Floyd Mayweather and you just started rapping. That's that's not even that's not realistic. And if you try to put on a bunch of face that we can see through it. 01:03:49 Speaker 7: You can't walk in the room with a million dollars worth of Jeordy and you ain't even got no car. 01:03:52 Speaker 4: We knowing that you were knowing that five. 01:03:57 Speaker 7: Million thousands. 01:03:59 Speaker 2: I say, I don't see more. Richard Billy's about life. Like everybody got a rich ability. 01:04:05 Speaker 4: I don't know Richard somebody else that I bought the book, but I need anyone with with with the uh need that man. I got you, I got you. See if we have one, we got another interview out there, I would have came to you and put up Yeah, I got you. I sent it back, appreciated. Yeah. 01:04:28 Speaker 3: Any words for the people, man, anything you want the people to know, man, the Gucci supporters, the Big Fact. 01:04:33 Speaker 4: I want to tell everybody, please get my book. It's out. 01:04:35 Speaker 5: It came out on the fourteenth, and make sure y'all check my album out come out ten seventeen, and uh just be on the lookout for Posh Auston and be on the lookout for Pool gent One and that female artist yep. And if y'all an any though female artist hit my dim, I'll be checking my DALs. 01:04:51 Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm looking Yeah, wow, man, I appreciate you putting up. I appreciate y'all's motivation. Thank you, doll. 01:05:01 Speaker 3: It's Darry Gucci Man on Big Facts. 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