The Great Outdoors (1988) vs. Vacation (1983): Part 2

<v Speaker 1>We went Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Shirtley
<v Speaker 1>You Can't Be Serious podcast. We are back with part
<v Speaker 1>two of our comparison of the movie National Lampoon Vacation
<v Speaker 1>and the movie The Great Outdoors.
<v Speaker 2>Hey, do you guess what what? My podcasts and I
<v Speaker 2>French kiss?
<v Speaker 1>So everybody does that.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but Daddy says I'm the best at it.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, guys, we are here. I've got the waste paper
<v Speaker 1>basket over my head, I've got some tennis rackets in
<v Speaker 1>my hands, and Jason is over here. Bear ass, I
<v Speaker 1>mean bear, bear ass bear, it's a bear bear ass.
<v Speaker 2>You're a bop, You're balooney. How do you use a magazine?
<v Speaker 1>Do you know what you do when you get in trouble?
<v Speaker 1>You let go of the rope, Let go of the row.
<v Speaker 2>That's right. That ski jumping scene went on for about
<v Speaker 2>twelve minutes.
<v Speaker 1>It was great, It was funny. It was funny. Whoever
<v Speaker 1>the stuntman was being John Candy for that one there
<v Speaker 1>deserves all of the money that he got on that deal.
<v Speaker 1>That was good.
<v Speaker 2>I'm dead, I'm dead, I'm alive. I'm alive.
<v Speaker 1>Guys, can't wait to talk a little bit more about
<v Speaker 1>these two movies. We're going to talk today about the music.
<v Speaker 1>We're going to talk today about the cars. We're gonna
<v Speaker 1>talk today about maybe some boats, and we are going
<v Speaker 1>to talk about our final judgment as to which of
<v Speaker 1>these two movies are the best.
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be awesome. I've got some funny scenes I
<v Speaker 2>want to talk about with you. Yeah, and we're just
<v Speaker 2>kind of we're just gonna kind of road trip it
<v Speaker 2>through this episode.
<v Speaker 1>Man, Listen, guys, this is going to be a good time.
<v Speaker 1>You may not know a good time even if it
<v Speaker 1>fell out of the sky and landed on your face
<v Speaker 1>and started a wiggle. I'm just telling you right now,
<v Speaker 1>this is a.
<v Speaker 2>Good time, all right, all right? So do you remind
<v Speaker 2>us when did you see these movies for the first time?
<v Speaker 1>Both of these in the theater seven years old, nineteen
<v Speaker 1>eighty three. I'm watching Beverly DeAngelo take a shower, monumental moment.
<v Speaker 1>And then yeah, I remember going and watching The Great
<v Speaker 1>Outdoors in eighty eight and just absolutely loving it.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so we are going through our summer of nineteen
<v Speaker 2>eighty eight. Now this doesn't fit perfectly, but nineteen eighty
<v Speaker 2>three was national Timepoon's Vacation that's turning forty this summer,
<v Speaker 2>and The Great Outdoors was June seventeenth of nineteen eighty eight.
<v Speaker 2>It's turning thirty five or just last week turned thirty five. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>and so this will be one of our nineteen eighty
<v Speaker 2>eight summer movies.
<v Speaker 1>So both of these movies have some very memorable vehicles
<v Speaker 1>in them. The memorable vehicle, I mean number one he had.
<v Speaker 1>I believe it was a Cherokee, a jeep Cherokee wagoneer
<v Speaker 1>that they were driving, you remember, Hey bear, Yeah, zagnutt
<v Speaker 1>and then climbs. So that was okay, right right, But
<v Speaker 1>you got the boat, you got the Suck My Wake boat.
<v Speaker 1>Suck My Wake. Oh man, I can't tell you how
<v Speaker 1>many boats that have come by that. I'm like, if
<v Speaker 1>I had that boat, I'd name it suck my Wake.
<v Speaker 2>Hey. You know, dan Aykroyd does something in that scene
<v Speaker 2>that it didn't appreciate as a kid, but I do
<v Speaker 2>as a dad. Right. So they're talking about which boat
<v Speaker 2>they're going to take out there, and John Candy's got
<v Speaker 2>this perfect vacation for his kids already mapped out, already planned.
<v Speaker 2>He's got a couple of intruders on his vacation and
<v Speaker 2>he's like, no, no, no, no, We're getting a pontoon boat.
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna gonna, you know, just put around the lake
<v Speaker 2>and have a good time. We're gonna fish and eat
<v Speaker 2>and relax. Yeah, and Dan across No, no, no, we
<v Speaker 2>want to you want, you know, suck my wake, you know,
<v Speaker 2>and ask the kid what do you want? You want
<v Speaker 2>a rocket or do you want to The kids like, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I want to rocket.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>As a dad, now I'm like, you know what I mean.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, the memorable vehicle from vacation though, yes, is the
<v Speaker 1>wagon Queen Family Truckster metallic pee, metallic pee, I'm sorry,
<v Speaker 1>metallic peace.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it was supposed to be Antarctic glue, the super
<v Speaker 2>sports wagon with the optional relic comeback.
<v Speaker 1>You think you hate it, now wait till you drive.
<v Speaker 1>So I mentioned last episode that I was going to
<v Speaker 1>give you a little bit of a story there. I
<v Speaker 1>may have built it up too much. This may this
<v Speaker 1>may be a letdown, but here you go. Are okay? Ready? Ready?
<v Speaker 1>So this car was actually a modified version of a
<v Speaker 1>real car? Was the Ford Ltd Country Squire? Right?
<v Speaker 2>Okay?
<v Speaker 1>So they hired a guy whose specialty was modifying cars,
<v Speaker 1>and his name was George Barris. He designed the Munster
<v Speaker 1>coach and the Dragula from the TV series The Munsters.
<v Speaker 2>Okay.
<v Speaker 1>He designed the original nineteen sixty six Batmobile. Get out
<v Speaker 1>of here, I am not kidding. He designed Kit from
<v Speaker 1>Night Writer. He designed the convertible version and the super
<v Speaker 1>pursuit version.
<v Speaker 2>Okay.
<v Speaker 1>This guy was known in Hollywood as if you need
<v Speaker 1>a car modified, this is the guy you go to.
<v Speaker 1>George Barris, right, yeah, and he's got a whole company
<v Speaker 1>that does this. Well. You have mentioned to me watching
<v Speaker 1>about the Doloreans in this new series that's out called
<v Speaker 1>Expedition Unknown Fantastic Man, and this is the guy in
<v Speaker 1>that series is trying to find all of the original
<v Speaker 1>with like eight seven seven original Deloreans that they used
<v Speaker 1>in the movie Back to the Future one, two, and three.
<v Speaker 1>And so George Barris, ten years after number three comes out,
<v Speaker 1>he restores one of those originals, right. And then a
<v Speaker 1>little while later he makes his own replica DeLorean time
<v Speaker 1>machine from like a stock DeLorean, right, and he starts
<v Speaker 1>to use that to promote himself and his company, and
<v Speaker 1>for like the next seven years has got posters with
<v Speaker 1>this thing where he's saying I modified cars until Universal
<v Speaker 1>sends him a cease and desist letter because he's making
<v Speaker 1>it look like he was the guy that designed the
<v Speaker 1>original DeLorean time machine. I don't know why. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>you designed the original Batmobile. Go with that. You don't
<v Speaker 1>need to have the DeLorean time machine. That's but yeah,
<v Speaker 1>they they had to say, hey, you get a cut
<v Speaker 1>that out. But turns out, I mean, this is eleven
<v Speaker 1>years ago. He had the number one Batmobile. He owned it,
<v Speaker 1>owned that number one Batmobile. Wow. Sold it in twenty
<v Speaker 1>twelve for four point six million dollars.
<v Speaker 3>Wow.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that is really cool. That's a great story, man,
<v Speaker 2>I like it.
<v Speaker 1>I like it.
<v Speaker 2>So he does all these cool cars, and then he's
<v Speaker 2>got the one single ugliest car you've ever seen your
<v Speaker 2>entire life.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the truckster.
<v Speaker 2>You know, Harold Ramis when they brought it to him,
<v Speaker 2>made it metallic pe with brown paddling and stuff. He thought,
<v Speaker 2>we may have gone too far.
<v Speaker 1>They literally killed the station wagon industry. I mean, the
<v Speaker 1>station wagon sales plummeted after this movie, really plummeted.
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, that's hilarious. Yeah, my buddy Chris Alexander
<v Speaker 2>Patreon member Chris Alexander. I can't tell you how many
<v Speaker 2>times I've ridden in the back of his blue station wagon.
<v Speaker 2>We called it the dragon wagon. And it went right
<v Speaker 2>through his family, like mom had it. Then it went
<v Speaker 2>to older brother. Then when's younger brother? You know, so
<v Speaker 2>he had to take dates and stuff out in.
<v Speaker 1>The did you put gas in through the hood? I
<v Speaker 1>can remember having a car, one of the cars we
<v Speaker 1>had growing up, you had to pull down the license
<v Speaker 1>plate in the back to be able to get to
<v Speaker 1>the I think it was a Chevy Caprice. Interesting nineteen
<v Speaker 1>seventy six Chevy Caprice.
<v Speaker 2>Hey, you know that scene with Chevy Chase where he
<v Speaker 2>grabs the license plate and like flings it over his head.
<v Speaker 2>He almost drills that lady and she was not expecting
<v Speaker 2>that that came way closer than he intended it to be. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>you want to talk music, let's talk music.
<v Speaker 1>There's some Both of these movies have some incredible songs
<v Speaker 1>in the movies, and number one out of the gate,
<v Speaker 1>we got to talk about the vacation song Holiday rep.
<v Speaker 1>If this doesn't put you in a happy mood, then
<v Speaker 1>you're you're a lost cause.
<v Speaker 2>Right, This is a perfect song for this movie.
<v Speaker 1>It is. And what's great is that Lindsay Buckingham had
<v Speaker 1>no idea about what the movie was really about other
<v Speaker 1>than a family going on vacation, right, and he writes
<v Speaker 1>this song and it fits so perfectly with the events
<v Speaker 1>of the movie that it was like he telepathically knew
<v Speaker 1>how things were gonna go.
<v Speaker 2>Well, he had seen some Harold Ramis movies, so he knew. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>it's lighthearted, it's whimsical, it's funny. Yeah, it's fun it's
<v Speaker 2>a road trip.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Harold Ramis approached him specifically for this. He's like,
<v Speaker 1>I need you. They had just finished Mirage Fleetwood Mac
<v Speaker 1>in case, in case you guys aren't familiar, the song
<v Speaker 1>Holiday Road is by Lindsay Buckingham, who is one of
<v Speaker 1>the original members of Fleetwood Mac. Fleetwood Mac had just
<v Speaker 1>finished with Mirage, and Harold Ramis comes up and says, hey,
<v Speaker 1>I need I would love for you to do a
<v Speaker 1>couple of songs for this movie, and he does. He
<v Speaker 1>does too. The other one is the Dance Across the USA,
<v Speaker 1>great song. Another great song.
<v Speaker 2>Hey let me back you up, though, go ahead. He
<v Speaker 2>didn't go to Lindsay Buckingham and say, I want you
<v Speaker 2>to write two songs for me. He went to Fleetwood
<v Speaker 2>Mac through Lindsey Buckingham, oh okay, and said, hey, Fleetwood
<v Speaker 2>Mac very popular right now. They just came out with
<v Speaker 2>this incredible album that had hold Me and Gypsy, I
<v Speaker 2>mean well known stuff from the eighties, and Lindsay Buckingham's like, well,
<v Speaker 2>we're not really speaking right now.
<v Speaker 1>They were in a bit of a turmoil at that point.
<v Speaker 2>Well gosh, I mean they all had relationships within the band.
<v Speaker 2>I mean yeah, Christy McVie and John McVie and Lindsay
<v Speaker 2>Buckingham and Stevie Nicks and then Stevie Nicks with Mick
<v Speaker 2>you know. I mean there's a lot of intermingling. And
<v Speaker 2>so Lindsay Buckingham's like, how about I do the two
<v Speaker 2>songs right?
<v Speaker 1>Well then, and he nailed it right absolutely. I didn't
<v Speaker 1>realize this. I was looking at personnel on Holiday Road.
<v Speaker 1>It is Lindsey Buckingham singing, listening Lindsey Buckingham, guitars, Lindsey
<v Speaker 1>Buckingham bass, a fairlight drum machine and that's the end.
<v Speaker 1>Like he did everything except for the drum machine.
<v Speaker 2>Does he do the dog at the end of it, barking.
<v Speaker 1>So that was the part. That was the part. They
<v Speaker 1>were like, how did you know about the dog? And
<v Speaker 1>he's like, I don't. I just thought a dog would
<v Speaker 1>be funny.
<v Speaker 2>Deacoms Deacoms is in the song.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, just he had no idea. He just was like, well,
<v Speaker 1>it's supposed to be funny. So a dog barking is funny. Yes,
<v Speaker 1>it's crazy, perfect, it is crazy.
<v Speaker 2>Hey, I'll tell you this. That song is one of
<v Speaker 2>his most well known songs. Yeah, it screams eighties to me, Like,
<v Speaker 2>I associated it tremendously with this movie. Peaked out at
<v Speaker 2>number eighty two on the Hot One.
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe that that's as high as it guy,
<v Speaker 1>and it was. I think it like would get these
<v Speaker 1>resurgents in popularity as because they would use it in
<v Speaker 1>the subsequent vacation movies, right yeah, And then they used
<v Speaker 1>it in the closing credits on National Lampoon's Drunk Stone
<v Speaker 1>Brilliant Dead The Story of Doug Kenney. Oh yeah, that's right.
<v Speaker 1>We talked about quite a bit when we did our
<v Speaker 1>catch checkup episode.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, hey, there's one more song I want to talk about.
<v Speaker 2>First of all, before I Leave this Dancing across the
<v Speaker 2>USA is the song they play at the end of
<v Speaker 2>the movie when they're riding roller coasters with Roy Wally
<v Speaker 2>and they're having a great time and then they're showing
<v Speaker 2>I think they show postcards at the end of the movie,
<v Speaker 2>and it's the culmination of this road trip and absolute fun,
<v Speaker 2>wacky zaniness. The song fits perfectly there as well. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>so two home Runs by Lindsay Buckingham. But the one
<v Speaker 2>song I want to bring up to you is a
<v Speaker 2>song called little Boy Sweet by June Pointer.
<v Speaker 3>On my.
<v Speaker 1>I was like, what the heck happen? Because It's been
<v Speaker 1>a long long time since I've seen this movie, right, Like,
<v Speaker 1>I probably I saw it in nineteen eighty three. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>and I probably have seen it maybe once or twice
<v Speaker 1>since then. Oh really, okay, and I watched this last time.
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I thought this was I'm so excited that
<v Speaker 1>played in this park. Yeah, and it's not.
<v Speaker 2>And then I was like, oh, but it was, Okay,
<v Speaker 2>tell me that story.
<v Speaker 1>So I'm so excited by the Pointer sisters. Yes, the scene,
<v Speaker 1>I mean the scene where Christy Brinkley is dancing around
<v Speaker 1>drinking her pop or whatever it is that she's drinking.
<v Speaker 2>And Clark is making dancing moves with the sandwiches with.
<v Speaker 1>The bread, yes, making love motions with the peed the
<v Speaker 1>dog pee.
<v Speaker 2>Bread, singing the bread.
<v Speaker 1>Yes. Yeah. So originally that was I'm So Excited by
<v Speaker 1>the Pointer Sisters. What happened, I don't know just when.
<v Speaker 1>I guess when the DVD came out or the Blu
<v Speaker 1>ray or something somewhere in the line of things. Really
<v Speaker 1>they changed that song, Oh.
<v Speaker 2>You're blowing my mind. So in the original, like theatrical version,
<v Speaker 2>it's I'm so excited.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yes, yeah, okay, which is by the Pointer Sisters,
<v Speaker 1>and then they replace it with this song that you're
<v Speaker 1>talking about called Little Boy Sweet, which has a similar
<v Speaker 1>beat to it.
<v Speaker 2>It's very nearly the same song.
<v Speaker 1>It's by June Pointer. He is one of the Pointer sisters. Yes,
<v Speaker 1>it's crazy.
<v Speaker 2>See whenevery time I hear that song, I'm looking for
<v Speaker 2>a Beautiful Woman in a red Ferrari. Yeah, I love it.
<v Speaker 2>I think they nailed the music in vacation.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So A couple of the other ones that you
<v Speaker 1>might know is Mister Blue by the Fleetwoods. No relation
<v Speaker 1>to Fleetwood Mac. Just an odd coincidence there, Okay, and
<v Speaker 1>then you've got the Ramones singing the Blitzkrieg Bop, which
<v Speaker 1>is the hey oh, let's go that. I love it,
<v Speaker 1>I love it right.
<v Speaker 2>That's the part where Clark and Ellen are singing Jimmy
<v Speaker 2>Cragclorn and I don't care. Yes, the kids are like
<v Speaker 2>their headphones on, forget this, I'm out.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah. So the composer for this movie is a
<v Speaker 1>guy named Ralph Burns who had done other movies. He
<v Speaker 1>did the music for Lenny with Dustin Hoffman in it
<v Speaker 1>and Valerie pH yep, and he did the music for
<v Speaker 1>All That Jazz, And he did the music for Urban Cowboy,
<v Speaker 1>which we've had a guy who said this is the
<v Speaker 1>best movie soundtrack.
<v Speaker 2>Shout out to my high school buddy Jay Reid, who
<v Speaker 2>hit us back when we were talking about greatest soundtracks
<v Speaker 2>of all time. He's like, no, no, no, you guys
<v Speaker 2>have got it all wrong.
<v Speaker 1>It's Urban Cowboy THETA and be made for sure, especially
<v Speaker 1>that time in history. I mean, yeah, knocked it out
<v Speaker 1>of the park.
<v Speaker 2>It is Hall of Fame country artist after Hall of
<v Speaker 2>Fame country artist plus the Eagles, right.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So switching gears back over to the great outdoors,
<v Speaker 1>our composer on this one is a guy named Thomas
<v Speaker 1>Newman who we have talked about before. He was the
<v Speaker 1>composer on The Lost Boys. Really, yes, brother of Randy Newman.
<v Speaker 1>What you got a friend of me? Baby, I'm just
<v Speaker 1>this dude is I mean, he's huge. He did the
<v Speaker 1>shash Ank Redemption if I can bring it back again,
<v Speaker 1>another crossover, the shosh Ank Redemption. But he's he's done
<v Speaker 1>a ton of stuff. He's done less than zero Lost Boys.
<v Speaker 1>As I mentioned, Jumpin' Jack Flash Gung Ho, real genius.
<v Speaker 1>I mean the Man with One Red shoe Hanks right early. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>not the best Tom Hanks movie, but I mean, hey.
<v Speaker 2>I guess it's definitely not the best Tom Hanks movie.
<v Speaker 1>But again, the kind of just loose background music, not
<v Speaker 1>really a score that you're listening to. But we've got
<v Speaker 1>all kinds of fantastic stuff in the soundtrack as far
<v Speaker 1>as songs go. Like we mentioned last Time you Got
<v Speaker 1>Them Coming in Singing yakat y Act two nineteen eighty
<v Speaker 1>eight movies where Yakayyac plays a major part. In the
<v Speaker 1>early scenes of the movie, we had twins and then
<v Speaker 1>we've got the family singing Yaktyact by the Coasters, and
<v Speaker 1>then we had a Land of a Thousand Dances. Everybody
<v Speaker 1>remembers that Part's where they're all dancing around singing the
<v Speaker 1>song by Wilson Pickett. Great scene. But what's interesting about
<v Speaker 1>this is they pulled in some songs by the l
<v Speaker 1>Wood Blues Review Elwood Blues, Ellwood Blues. You got it
<v Speaker 1>so literally dan Aykroyd's character from the Blues Brothers, that
<v Speaker 1>band that was the original Saturday Night Live band. For
<v Speaker 1>the most part. They come in, they've made their their
<v Speaker 1>spinoff band from the Blues Brothers, and they have several
<v Speaker 1>songs on this eric at least a couple of songs
<v Speaker 1>on this soundtrack as well.
<v Speaker 2>That's fun, that's really cool.
<v Speaker 1>You got drag Boat where dan Aykroyd is singing as
<v Speaker 1>Elwood Blues. And then you've also got a song called
<v Speaker 1>Hip hug Her, Hip hug Her right. This one is
<v Speaker 1>by the Elwood Blues Review as well. But you've really
<v Speaker 1>just got the members of the band. You don't have
<v Speaker 1>Elwood Blues singing. You've got Steve Cropper, You've got Booker T. Jones,
<v Speaker 1>You've got Donald duck Dunn, which if you've seen the
<v Speaker 1>Blues Brothers. He's his only line is if the fit
<v Speaker 1>to swear it.
<v Speaker 2>But we're getting the band back together.
<v Speaker 1>We're on a mission from gut So again another great
<v Speaker 1>soundtrack of songs.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay. I wanted to bring up just a few
<v Speaker 2>of the funniest scenes in both of these movies that
<v Speaker 2>we can talk about, and then I've got a few tidbits,
<v Speaker 2>and then what final judgment.
<v Speaker 1>I guess, right, yeah, for sure.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Okay, let's stay with the great outdoors for.
<v Speaker 1>Just a second. Okay, Okay.
<v Speaker 2>Some of the funniest scenes I think are You've got
<v Speaker 2>the part where the guy is struck by lightning is.
<v Speaker 1>Six times is it's sixty six to guys.
<v Speaker 2>In the head.
<v Speaker 1>Sixty six times? God, that's got hurt.
<v Speaker 2>Okay. And then you also have the bat scene where
<v Speaker 2>the bat gets into the cabin. John Candy goes in there.
<v Speaker 2>He's like, no, no, I've got this. Everybody calm down.
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna take care of this problem. And then it
<v Speaker 2>comes out He's like, it buzzed me. Hey, I'm telling you.
<v Speaker 2>This scene reappears in Christmas Vacation with the Squirrel.
<v Speaker 1>It is the same scene and.
<v Speaker 2>You know what, it's not the only scene that we
<v Speaker 2>duplicate for one of these movies. Yeah, we'll talk about
<v Speaker 2>that here in just a second. Okay, the scene with
<v Speaker 2>the old ninety sixer.
<v Speaker 1>What's the old ninety sixer?
<v Speaker 4>Oh, that's our world famous Paul Bunyan's blue ox tick.
<v Speaker 4>It is a ninety six OUNSD prime aged beef steak
<v Speaker 4>and you or any member of your party orders the
<v Speaker 4>old ninety six or a finishes everybody eats for.
<v Speaker 2>Free is like my favorite, right.
<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's absolutely the most memorable scene. And it became
<v Speaker 1>a thing, like I don't know that it was anywhere,
<v Speaker 1>like having these kind of outrageous things to eat and
<v Speaker 1>then you get a free meal, T shirt whatever. I
<v Speaker 1>don't think it became as much of a thing until
<v Speaker 1>this movie. Yeah, and then, oh god, I mean, all
<v Speaker 1>that's left is fat in the gristle. Yep.
<v Speaker 2>Have you ever been to the Big Texan in Amarilla? No?
<v Speaker 2>I have eaten there, and they've got it on dis
<v Speaker 2>when you walk in, it's actually seventy two ounces and
<v Speaker 2>it looks like a cow's left butt cheek. Wow, it's
<v Speaker 2>it's massive.
<v Speaker 1>Okay.
<v Speaker 2>Another one of my favorite scenes from the great outdoors.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how they got this bear to do
<v Speaker 2>this thing. But when he's jumping up and down on
<v Speaker 2>the door with John Candy underneath, that is a scream man. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>and he is just ragging that door, and of course
<v Speaker 2>John Candy is is so funny. You faster, yeah fast?
<v Speaker 1>I think he said go faster, go fast, Go faster, dude.
<v Speaker 2>That was funny.
<v Speaker 1>That's hilarious.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, the water skiing scene is.
<v Speaker 1>Funny because he's just finished saying, what do you do
<v Speaker 1>in your job? You let go of the rope and
<v Speaker 1>not once, right, not once? And then he waves and
<v Speaker 1>faints in the water. Oh my gosh, I was dying.
<v Speaker 2>Hey. First of all, I know it's a joke, but
<v Speaker 2>nobody ever starts on the dock holding the rope while
<v Speaker 2>your stupid idiot brother is at the controls of the
<v Speaker 2>my weight. Yeah, and then the fun the part that
<v Speaker 2>I may have laughed at the hardest. And it's a
<v Speaker 2>cheap thrill, I get it. But the first time I
<v Speaker 2>saw this when they shoot that bear in the butt
<v Speaker 2>with a shotgun and it blows his button bear, I laughed.
<v Speaker 2>I laughed hard. The first time I saw this, I
<v Speaker 2>thought that was hilarious. And then the closing dance scene
<v Speaker 2>is a great fun It's like the end of Footloose, right, Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>it's all about having fun and dancing and all that stuff.
<v Speaker 1>That one is very very Blues Brothers, Like would they
<v Speaker 1>just break into song and everybody's just singing and dancing
<v Speaker 1>and having fun. I love it.
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of closing credit scenes John Hughes movies
<v Speaker 2>that are a lot of fun.
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, I gotta run your bathroom real quick. I'm gonna
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna introduce mister thick Dick to mister Urine. Okay, sorry,
<v Speaker 1>we could not leave figure it outdoors saying that. I'm sorry,
<v Speaker 1>it's bad, bad, inappropriate. I apologize, Please forgive me. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>all right, we're going back to vacation now we are.
<v Speaker 2>But before we do, I just want to say, the
<v Speaker 2>raccoons in the trash.
<v Speaker 1>Scene you hate, I don't.
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's funny at all. I think that's dumb.
<v Speaker 1>You have had an issue with chipmunks since episode one
<v Speaker 1>of this show. I don't know what your deal is, dude.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you need to find some Alvin love.
<v Speaker 2>The Chipmunks singing backup for Michael Jackson have just tainted
<v Speaker 2>it for me. Okay, so let's talk about the funniest
<v Speaker 2>stuff from the movie National Lampoon's Vacation.
<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you something, this is no longer a vacation.
<v Speaker 1>It's a quest.
<v Speaker 3>It's a quest for fun.
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have fun and you're gonna have fun. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>this is gonna be hard for National Lampoon Vacation. There
<v Speaker 1>are so many funny scenes.
<v Speaker 2>Like literally they string it together from the opening scene
<v Speaker 2>all the way to the end, exactly funny scene after
<v Speaker 2>funny scene after funny scene. Yeah, so you start with
<v Speaker 2>the first one where Clark pulls up to pick up
<v Speaker 2>the Antarctic Glues super sports wagon and you know what,
<v Speaker 2>it didn't come in.
<v Speaker 1>This is not the car you ordered. Take it easy, Russy,
<v Speaker 1>this is not the car I ordered.
<v Speaker 2>And you have the sleaziest car salesman of all time.
<v Speaker 2>Eugene Levy. I thought this was interesting. Eugene Levy thought, Hey,
<v Speaker 2>I was in this movie. It's doing really, really well.
<v Speaker 1>It's fun.
<v Speaker 2>And David Letterman brought it up when he was talking
<v Speaker 2>to Chevy Chase about the movie. He said, David Letterman's like,
<v Speaker 2>how about that car salesman at the beginning. That was
<v Speaker 2>so funny. Eugene Levy almost fell out of his chair.
<v Speaker 2>He's like, he's talking about me.
<v Speaker 1>Nice.
<v Speaker 2>I thought that was really cool. So that's a funny scene.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Eugene Levy had been in with John Candy, had
<v Speaker 1>been in setv C TV.
<v Speaker 2>With John Kenny.
<v Speaker 1>That's correct.
<v Speaker 2>Yep, the scene went early on Clark is trying to
<v Speaker 2>talk Ellen into performing a sexual act in the car
<v Speaker 2>with the kids.
<v Speaker 1>Right, it had stuck.
<v Speaker 2>It's so frigging funny. And then and that's why one
<v Speaker 2>of the reason I'm showing my cards here a little bit.
<v Speaker 2>Vacation is just a little bit naughty, a little harder edged, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>which makes it that much more hilarious with the payoffs
<v Speaker 2>and stuff.
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean when they go into what south side
<v Speaker 1>of Chicago? Where the where do they go off the.
<v Speaker 2>Road in the wrong is a Detroit Saint Louis?
<v Speaker 1>Oh Saint Louis's right, Okay, so they go off honky lips.
<v Speaker 1>There is no way. I mean, you're not getting away
<v Speaker 1>with that in a movie today. That is not I know,
<v Speaker 1>but I mean, you know, excuse me, could you please
<v Speaker 1>tell me how to get back on the Expressway. Oh,
<v Speaker 1>thank you very much.
<v Speaker 2>I saw I saw Harold Ramus talk about this. He said,
<v Speaker 2>every scene that had a cussword in it, they had
<v Speaker 2>to do an alternate scene without cusswords. Right, okay, So
<v Speaker 2>the alternate scene to that very word right there, the
<v Speaker 2>guy says, what do I look like? Christopher Clobo? And
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, no, the F word is much better there.
<v Speaker 2>But the scene I wanted to bring up to you
<v Speaker 2>is when he is trying to romance her panties off
<v Speaker 2>with the vibrating bed and the champagne, and of course
<v Speaker 2>the bed goes haywire, like the entire trip is going haywire.
<v Speaker 2>But Ellen, being a good wife, is still up for
<v Speaker 2>you know whatever. Let's just pull the you know, the
<v Speaker 2>bed spread off and put it on the floor, all right.
<v Speaker 2>The kids come in because of the racket that's happening,
<v Speaker 2>and they're like, where's mom And he goes to the
<v Speaker 2>like thumb like she's in the other room.
<v Speaker 1>I'm down here, I'm down here.
<v Speaker 2>Kids go back to bed. Huh. Hilarious.
<v Speaker 1>Hilarious.
<v Speaker 2>Also, he's got her panties on his on his thumb
<v Speaker 2>and she rips it off. The scene when they go
<v Speaker 2>to Dodge City. Hey, Underpants, move your chicken wings, turkey.
<v Speaker 2>All that's improv All that's Chevy Chase gold great.
<v Speaker 3>Hey, tander Foot, give your chicken wings, Turkey Clark.
<v Speaker 2>That's not nice part of the act.
<v Speaker 3>Huh, Hey underban, Hey, okay, I'm okay, I'm all right.
<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna throw back to this is a personal story, right.
<v Speaker 1>You got me into running back in two thousand and eight,
<v Speaker 1>I mean a long time ago, right, And so I
<v Speaker 1>kind of ramped up suddenly and did a marathon within
<v Speaker 1>a few months after we started running together, that's true.
<v Speaker 1>And at mile fifteen of the run, we go off
<v Speaker 1>off road onto what I can just describe as a
<v Speaker 1>walking trail. It goes by this lake. And at some point,
<v Speaker 1>you know, my kids and my wife would drive to
<v Speaker 1>different spots and they would wave and be filming and
<v Speaker 1>all this other stuff. And at that point they had
<v Speaker 1>arrived at this place again, and they're like yay, Dad,
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like proud of you, honey, And I start
<v Speaker 1>doing these like big kisses, like I'm totally hamming it
<v Speaker 1>up and I'm not paying attention to what I'm doing.
<v Speaker 1>At mile fifteen, my ankle goes off the edge of
<v Speaker 1>this trail and I face first plant onto the gravel.
<v Speaker 1>I remember that, yes, and I totally I had it
<v Speaker 1>going through my head. I jump up like Chevy Chase
<v Speaker 1>after the shotgun and I'm like, okay, I'm okay, I'm okay,
<v Speaker 1>I left.
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna say? Casey was like, maybe you're chicken wings turkey.
<v Speaker 2>That's hilarious. We've we've already talked about Dinky versus the
<v Speaker 2>bumper with the highway patrolman and Chevy Chase jas son
<v Speaker 2>of a Bitch, the single greatest line ever delivered in
<v Speaker 2>any Chevy Chase movie. But the scene where he's making
<v Speaker 2>all the loving blow of kisses to Christy Brinkley while
<v Speaker 2>they're playing Little Boy Sweet and bever Delangelo is like
<v Speaker 2>the dog wet on the picnic basket and he's like
<v Speaker 2>spitting it out and at end is like, who cares whatever,
<v Speaker 2>I'm hungry. I'll tell you a line that we still
<v Speaker 2>My wife and I use this all the time. We
<v Speaker 2>were in air on a we went to the Grand
<v Speaker 2>Canyon not too many years ago, and we're driving around
<v Speaker 2>looking for the road to the Grand Canyon, and we
<v Speaker 2>could not help ourselves. We're like don't think you're gonna
<v Speaker 2>find the Grand Canyon on this road. And I'm like,
<v Speaker 2>it's only the biggest gd hole in the world.
<v Speaker 4>I honestly don't think you're gonna find the Grand Canyon
<v Speaker 4>on this road.
<v Speaker 3>It's only the biggest goddamn hole in the world. Wark
<v Speaker 3>watch your language, like that the second biggest one.
<v Speaker 2>And that scene where he jumps the family truckster, yeah, Dad,
<v Speaker 2>you must have jun this thing.
<v Speaker 1>Love fifty yard.
<v Speaker 2>That's something to be proud of. Russie Yarns. So the
<v Speaker 2>interesting thing is that was filmed in Monument Valley, which
<v Speaker 2>I was there in December, and it's another strange coincidence.
<v Speaker 2>I keep saying this, I don't go to movie locations,
<v Speaker 2>but with any which way you can and every which
<v Speaker 2>way it lose and vacation. Of course, they shoot a
<v Speaker 2>lot of it in Colorado, which I go there a
<v Speaker 2>lot in Arizona. The scene where they jumped the family's truckster,
<v Speaker 2>they had an the old eighties style stunt man who
<v Speaker 2>was like, I'm just gonna put some knee pads on
<v Speaker 2>and jump this sucker. And they were talking about how
<v Speaker 2>far he's gonna jump it, and he's like, put your
<v Speaker 2>money where your mouth is. I'm gonna show you how
<v Speaker 2>far I can freaking jump this truckster and he jumped
<v Speaker 2>it exactly where he drew the line. Wow, Like everybody
<v Speaker 2>was like, there's no way you're gonna jump that far.
<v Speaker 2>Let's see your cash.
<v Speaker 1>Well, and you've got after that scene, of course, you
<v Speaker 1>have him walking through the desert, which is classic, a
<v Speaker 1>classic moment, right, right, But then the mechanics.
<v Speaker 2>Passive gas station, every hundred brains. Okay, so the manure
<v Speaker 2>for brain mechanics right where Clark's like, how much is it?
<v Speaker 2>And they're like, how much you got?
<v Speaker 3>Boy?
<v Speaker 2>All of it?
<v Speaker 1>What does your sheriff think about your business practices?
<v Speaker 2>He pulls out his badge, right, Okay, So one of
<v Speaker 2>those guys looks like Dermott mulroney. But that's not him, right.
<v Speaker 2>The other guy, the guy who's the sheriff, that's Mickey Jones.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, do you know who that is? I mean, I've
<v Speaker 1>seen him in a bajillion things.
<v Speaker 2>Right, he's been an actor and he's been a lot
<v Speaker 2>of stuff.
<v Speaker 1>Right.
<v Speaker 2>He played drums for Bob Dylan, Okay, what he is
<v Speaker 2>a founding member of the First Edition with singer Kenny Rogers.
<v Speaker 1>Well, throw back to our freaking big labouts at episode Wow.
<v Speaker 2>That's right, that's awesome overall, Mickey Jones has played on
<v Speaker 2>seventeen Gold records in two decades of a musical Wow Wow.
<v Speaker 2>And then he's playing the freaking sheriff in Invacation.
<v Speaker 1>He was he was with Jeff Bridges in Starman too.
<v Speaker 1>He was the trucker in Starman.
<v Speaker 2>There you go, Okay. The scene that I really want
<v Speaker 2>to talk to you about, though, is the scene after Edna,
<v Speaker 2>of course has died. Huh. They drop her off at
<v Speaker 2>her son's house in Phoenix in the Porn Range.
<v Speaker 1>She can't be more than one hundred pounds. You are
<v Speaker 1>not going to put her on the roof.
<v Speaker 2>And then they go in the backyard and he's like.
<v Speaker 1>You think he'll be upset. Why would he be upset
<v Speaker 1>to come home from vacation to find his dead mother
<v Speaker 1>on the porch.
<v Speaker 2>And he's given that prayer. He's like, yay, though, they
<v Speaker 2>walk to the valley of the Canaanites, give her a break, lord. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>And so he's given this total half butt prayer that
<v Speaker 2>he's trying to get on the road and get to
<v Speaker 2>Wally World, and of course, bevery angel is like, Lord,
<v Speaker 2>we love this woman with all our hearts, Like, let's
<v Speaker 2>not overdo it mom. So that scene is hilarious. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>But when they drive off, they're in the car and
<v Speaker 2>all this bad crap has happened the entire trip, and
<v Speaker 2>the family is basically like, we want to bail out, right,
<v Speaker 2>I've had it, we can't take any more. And he
<v Speaker 2>slams on the brakes and he turns to him and
<v Speaker 2>he's like, I think you're all left.
<v Speaker 1>In the head.
<v Speaker 2>Right, We're gonna have so much f and fun. You're
<v Speaker 2>gonna be whistling zippity dude out of your a holes. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>we're ten hours from the F and Fun park. You
<v Speaker 2>want to bail out? Well, this is no longer a vacation,
<v Speaker 2>it's a quest, right, it's a question fun.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're gonna have fun. I'm gonna have fun.
<v Speaker 2>So that meltdown with the f worts is hilarious. Now,
<v Speaker 2>like I said before, they had to film an alternate
<v Speaker 2>version for TV. I've seen that version. It is not
<v Speaker 2>as funny shocking. Right, Here's the thing. John Hughes stole
<v Speaker 2>that exact scene and used it in another John Hughes movie.
<v Speaker 2>Can you name that movie.
<v Speaker 1>Christmas Vacation.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'll go with you on that, but that's
<v Speaker 2>not what I was talking about.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, what you got.
<v Speaker 2>It's the f bomb tirade that Steve Martin does.
<v Speaker 1>At the end of Plants, Trains and Nomobiles, the the
<v Speaker 1>rented car not being there, that one tirade.
<v Speaker 2>Poor effing Wheels in a seat.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, you're ft right, Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>So it just as I'm going through these, I'm like, man,
<v Speaker 2>John Hughes keeps stealing from himself.
<v Speaker 1>But it's it every time.
<v Speaker 2>It's good every time.
<v Speaker 1>Right, you see the character completely lose his mind.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's my assertion that The Great Outdoors is a
<v Speaker 2>complete thievery of vacation and it's a reboot.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>So we'll talk about final judgment here in a second. Okay.
<v Speaker 2>And then one scene I wanted to talk about, Clark
<v Speaker 2>has had enough of villain and he goes to the
<v Speaker 2>bar with the white shoes.
<v Speaker 1>So glad that you said. I was waiting for them, Like,
<v Speaker 1>we cannot, we cannot leave this movie behind without talking
<v Speaker 1>about this is crazy. This is crazy.
<v Speaker 2>He meets up with Christy Brinkley.
<v Speaker 1>He I mean, dude, one little fight and he is
<v Speaker 1>out trolling.
<v Speaker 2>He is trolling the water, the second in the bar.
<v Speaker 1>Third or fourth, he's checking every single one of them out.
<v Speaker 1>One's not interested, the other one has a boyfriend. And
<v Speaker 1>finally he bumps into Christy Brinkley, who he's seen this
<v Speaker 1>whole time. Creates the story about the being the hotel.
<v Speaker 2>Owner when you're in the CIA.
<v Speaker 1>No, I was, but I don't like to talk about it.
<v Speaker 2>So they go to the pool. Now. Then here's the
<v Speaker 2>thing with Christy Brinkley. She had been in glamour magazines,
<v Speaker 2>she had been in sports illuspirated swimsuit issues. I don't
<v Speaker 2>know if she'd been in music videos up to that point,
<v Speaker 2>but she was the it girl every magazine in a
<v Speaker 2>bikini known to man. Harold Raymis is like, you got
<v Speaker 2>to be topless, and she's like, Nope, not happen. And
<v Speaker 2>they're like, what are you talking about? You are half
<v Speaker 2>naked all the time. She's like, I have made a
<v Speaker 2>fantastic living by making people wonder what is underneath my
<v Speaker 2>bikini and I am not showing it. And I thought
<v Speaker 2>that's a shrewd business.
<v Speaker 1>Move by a good job. Yeah, I mean you're you're
<v Speaker 1>you're trying to stare into the water the whole time
<v Speaker 1>she's in the pool when you think she's naked, right,
<v Speaker 1>and you never see a thing. I mean, I still
<v Speaker 1>don't have a problem with brother Angelo going crazy a
<v Speaker 1>little bit later on exactly. I mean, she was just
<v Speaker 1>a shoos a pool waitress, a waitress in the pool.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's ordering some fish for you and Audrey.
<v Speaker 1>He believe that, don't you rest Oh yeah, you think
<v Speaker 1>mom's gonna buy it?
<v Speaker 2>Can tuck rs. But here's the interesting thing. So for
<v Speaker 2>that scene, they compromise, Okay, we'll find no no topless.
<v Speaker 2>You gotta wear lingerie though, and she's like, okay, fine whatever.
<v Speaker 1>Sure.
<v Speaker 2>So one day Harold raimis, he's working, he's dealing with problems,
<v Speaker 2>he's directing people, he's dealing with, you know, bursts of
<v Speaker 2>anger from Chevy Chase. And he gets a phone call
<v Speaker 2>and they're like, hey, you need to get down to wardrobe.
<v Speaker 2>And he's like, what's going on in wardrobe? Like what's
<v Speaker 2>the problem, Like, well, we're working with Christy to help
<v Speaker 2>her pick her laingerie. He's like, yeah, I can do that.
<v Speaker 2>I'll be down there in a seconds.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>So I thought it was interesting. She would not take
<v Speaker 2>her clothes off.
<v Speaker 1>I'm been good for her.
<v Speaker 2>Yep. Okay, I've got just a couple of tidbits I
<v Speaker 2>want to talk to you about from both of these movies. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>let's do tidbits from The Great Outdoors First, money choice, Biche.
<v Speaker 4>What did he say?
<v Speaker 2>What When John Candy showed up on set, he thought, Hey,
<v Speaker 2>this is an outdoorsy movie. You know we're gonna be camping.
<v Speaker 2>So he had a beard. Oh okay, And they showed
<v Speaker 2>up and they're like, I'm not really sure about the beard,
<v Speaker 2>so they made him shave it right.
<v Speaker 1>So same thing with John Travolta and Urban Cowboy. He
<v Speaker 1>thought Cowboy supposed to have a beard, showed up with
<v Speaker 1>the beard, They're like, nope, nope. That's why at the
<v Speaker 1>beginning of the movie you see him with the beard
<v Speaker 1>and then he shaves it all off.
<v Speaker 2>Interesting, there you go. Okay, this movie took three weeks
<v Speaker 2>to film in late October and November of eighty seven. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>so it's supposed to be summer, but really it's set
<v Speaker 2>in the fall. This was shot at bass Lake Lodge
<v Speaker 2>in California.
<v Speaker 1>You know what else was shot? No, The Star Trek,
<v Speaker 1>where Kirk is climbing up the side of the cliff
<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden, Spock is like levitating
<v Speaker 1>next to him Star Trek five and they sing, row
<v Speaker 1>row your boat around the campig same, same, Like.
<v Speaker 2>That was the worst of the Star Trek movies, but
<v Speaker 2>it came out in the summer of eighty nine, of
<v Speaker 2>which I'm plenting my flag as the best here for
<v Speaker 2>movies in the eighties. Oh wow, So okay, all right, now,
<v Speaker 2>I noticed this the other day when I was watching
<v Speaker 2>The Great Outdoors, the scene where John Candy's character in
<v Speaker 2>Dan Arkward's character, Chet and Roman are sitting there and
<v Speaker 2>they're talking about, you know, what do you see out there?
<v Speaker 2>He's like, I see a business investment and millions of
<v Speaker 2>acres of you know, blah blah blah. And he's like,
<v Speaker 2>what do you see? He's like, I see trees. I
<v Speaker 2>see nothing but trees. Right, they're sitting there. They both
<v Speaker 2>have Star Wars glasses from Burger King back in the day.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, although I think and looking at it, we decided
<v Speaker 1>maybe it was Empire Striking.
<v Speaker 2>One was Empres Strikes Back, and one was Return of
<v Speaker 2>the Jedi.
<v Speaker 1>So there you go. So you noticed Star Wars cups. Yes,
<v Speaker 1>I noticed the beer in the Great Outdoors. There are
<v Speaker 1>a ton of people drinking this beer called Point beer,
<v Speaker 1>and you don't see it around here. This is a
<v Speaker 1>Wisconsin beer. It is made by Stevens Point Brewery, which
<v Speaker 1>is the fifth oldest continuously operating brewery literally started in
<v Speaker 1>eighteen sixty four and sold beer to the Civil War troops. Wow,
<v Speaker 1>that's how it is, and the third oldest privately owned
<v Speaker 1>brewery in the nation as well.
<v Speaker 2>Interesting, there you go. Okay, do you know the name
<v Speaker 2>of the bear in the Great Outdoors? No? Bear's name
<v Speaker 2>is Jody.
<v Speaker 1>That is the worst name for a bear I've ever
<v Speaker 1>heard of.
<v Speaker 2>Why you know why I know that? No, because the
<v Speaker 2>effing raccoons told me that at the end in the
<v Speaker 2>closing credits.
<v Speaker 1>What, Yes, they said, the bears is Jody Jody.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, okay, let's blip over vacation.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, this is crazy.
<v Speaker 2>This is crazy.
<v Speaker 1>It's crazy.
<v Speaker 2>Now then, I've already told you about the alternate cussing scenes, right,
<v Speaker 2>They always had to have something for television, and almost
<v Speaker 2>always those cussing scenes don't work. Right now, then, do
<v Speaker 2>you know who Clark and Ellen rent the Tints from
<v Speaker 2>when they're in South Fork, Colorado. No, Brian Doyle Murray.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah right, eating the watermelons and flower seeds.
<v Speaker 1>What does heat spitting something out?
<v Speaker 2>He's spitting watermelon seeds out. Yeah, so they rent the
<v Speaker 2>tints from him. Yeah, you know where. He shows up
<v Speaker 2>again in the vacation movies.
<v Speaker 1>He is the boss in Christmas Vacation who gets kidnapped
<v Speaker 1>by cousins, the.
<v Speaker 2>Mister Shirley from Christmas Vacation.
<v Speaker 1>Surely you can't be serious.
<v Speaker 2>I am serious, and don't call me Shirley. Chevy Chase
<v Speaker 2>actually adopted Dinky the dog after the filming of this movie.
<v Speaker 1>What, yes, that's that is awesome?
<v Speaker 2>How about that?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a good one. So you're touching on a
<v Speaker 1>subject that I just wanted to cover real quick. We've
<v Speaker 1>got several vacation movies that come after this vacation. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>you've got European Vacation. Yes, you've got Christmas Vacation, You've
<v Speaker 1>got Vegas Vacation. You've got some others that we don't
<v Speaker 1>probably even need to talk about. And then you kind
<v Speaker 1>of have this soft reboot where it's vacation but with
<v Speaker 1>Rusty as a dad. Right, So going back to let's
<v Speaker 1>say the original four, yes, you've got vacation, European Christmas,
<v Speaker 1>and Vegas. Yes, give me your how they rank for you?
<v Speaker 2>Okay, vacation number one, Christmas vacation number two. Although I
<v Speaker 2>am a strong apologist for my number three of European vacation.
<v Speaker 2>I think it's very funny, Okay, I don't hate it
<v Speaker 2>like most people hate it.
<v Speaker 1>Okay.
<v Speaker 2>And then Vegas vacation is a distant fourth, but I
<v Speaker 2>still think it's very funny. Yeah, I love them all.
<v Speaker 2>I think they're all great.
<v Speaker 1>So Christmas Vacation, as I said when we did our episode,
<v Speaker 1>I didn't even really like it that much the first
<v Speaker 1>time I saw it, but grown to love it so
<v Speaker 1>much it is now my number one. Okay. Number two
<v Speaker 1>for me is the original National Lampoon vacation. Okay. Number
<v Speaker 1>three is gonna be European Vacation, which I've seen maybe
<v Speaker 1>once or twice, if that really okay, and it's it's
<v Speaker 1>definitely a distant third. And then Vegas Vacation. I hate it.
<v Speaker 1>I saw it in the theater. I thought it was terrible,
<v Speaker 1>and I have not seen it again since. Now I
<v Speaker 1>was talking to Arlin, our buddy Arlind about this, and
<v Speaker 1>he was like, No, Vegas Vacation was hilarious, and it's
<v Speaker 1>like Rusty meets the Mobsters and it's like Jerry Wintraub
<v Speaker 1>is the mobster and it's and I'm like, I don't
<v Speaker 1>remember any of that, So I may need to go
<v Speaker 1>back and give Vegas Vacation a try to see if
<v Speaker 1>it's warmed up any for me.
<v Speaker 2>I think it's great. I think there are some real
<v Speaker 2>funny moments when they're at the damn and cousin he's like,
<v Speaker 2>where's the damn bathroom that takes care of tidbits for
<v Speaker 2>me from vacation?
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so one last tidbit for me. Yeah. John Hughes'
<v Speaker 1>last directed movie was Curly Sue. He didn't do I mean,
<v Speaker 1>he didn't really do anything for the rest of his life.
<v Speaker 1>He tragically died at the tender age of fifty nine,
<v Speaker 1>I think in two thousand and eighty.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I have to wonder if that hadn't happened, if he
<v Speaker 1>would have ever come back and started doing stuff. I
<v Speaker 1>don't know what it is that led him to stop
<v Speaker 1>doing movies altogether, but he did write some stuff, but
<v Speaker 1>used a different name. Did you know this? No, so
<v Speaker 1>you know of the movie Beethoven with the Big Saint Bernard.
<v Speaker 1>That's pretty awful, like a John Ritter movie, right, pretty
<v Speaker 1>well known.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>He wrote that under the pseudonym Edmund Dantes.
<v Speaker 2>Dantes from Freaking the Count of Money Christo.
<v Speaker 1>Very good. That was my I was going to say,
<v Speaker 1>do you know? And there you go? Wow, that's the character.
<v Speaker 1>He took the characters from the Count of Monte Cristo
<v Speaker 1>and that was his pseudonym. Whenever he would write, you
<v Speaker 1>are blowing my mind. There you go. Okay, you're ready
<v Speaker 1>for final judge, Ready for final judgment. Okay, let's go.
<v Speaker 1>You go first, to me, go first, You go first.
<v Speaker 1>We know what you're gonna do already, so you go ahead.
<v Speaker 2>And this is the biggest mismatch we've ever had here.
<v Speaker 2>The Shirley can't be serious, okay. National Lampoon's Vacation has
<v Speaker 2>hilarious scene after hilarious scene after memorable line.
<v Speaker 1>After I'm not gonna sneeze. I'm over here trying to
<v Speaker 1>restrain myself from talking while you make a statement like that,
<v Speaker 1>but go ahead.
<v Speaker 2>Literally one of the funniest comedies of the nineteen eighties,
<v Speaker 2>and then you have The Great Outdoors that is inferior
<v Speaker 2>in every way. It's way less funny, the characters are
<v Speaker 2>way less funny. The story has already been told. I
<v Speaker 2>don't like to rain on my man John Hughes, because
<v Speaker 2>I love John Hughes. But it's a forgettable comedy, and
<v Speaker 2>The Lampoon's Vacation is one of the greatest comedies of
<v Speaker 2>the landslide for vacation.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, are you finished?
<v Speaker 3>Yes?
<v Speaker 1>Go? Okay. We did Groundhog Day versus Multiplicity, and you're
<v Speaker 1>telling me that this is the biggest, biggest landslide, biggest.
<v Speaker 2>Gap between the two movies.
<v Speaker 1>You're out of your freaking mind. Okay, you're out of
<v Speaker 1>your freeman. I am not going to I mean, I'm
<v Speaker 1>gonna I'm gonna share it right off. I Am not
<v Speaker 1>going to come out here and say that The Great
<v Speaker 1>Outdoors is better the National Lampoon Vacation. But I'm gonna
<v Speaker 1>say it's freaking close. This is a good matchup. This.
<v Speaker 1>The Great Outdoors is a hysterical movie. It's one of
<v Speaker 1>John Candy's best, It's one of Dan Ackroid's best. You've
<v Speaker 1>got suck my wake, You've got the old ninety six er.
<v Speaker 1>You've got all of these iconic scenes. You've got great acting,
<v Speaker 1>Annette Benning's debut, You've got the skiing scene, you've got
<v Speaker 1>the bear scenes. This is a fantastic movie. For you
<v Speaker 1>to say that it is the biggest landslide, the biggest
<v Speaker 1>Mitch mismatch we've ever had, is outrageous. Okay, you are
<v Speaker 1>not wrong about your pick. Vacation is a better movie,
<v Speaker 1>but it is close. And there would be days that
<v Speaker 1>I would say, if you said pick one of these,
<v Speaker 1>I would pick the Great Outdoors. There would be days
<v Speaker 1>there would be days that I picked Vacation. There would
<v Speaker 1>be days that I picked the Great Outdoors. They are
<v Speaker 1>both fantastic movies, both worthy. You saying that there's this
<v Speaker 1>is the biggest Mitch match we've ever had is ridiculous.
<v Speaker 1>But I don't disagree with your pick. It is Vacation
<v Speaker 1>that is the better.
<v Speaker 2>Interesting. Yeah, Okay, let me ask you this. Yeah, rank
<v Speaker 2>the three herald raymis movies that we've covered so far,
<v Speaker 2>National Lamdfid's Vacation, Ye, Groundhog Day, Multiplicity, Caddie Shack.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Four. So Multiplicity is by far the worst, right,
<v Speaker 1>It's it's it's it was not good. It is a
<v Speaker 1>bad movie. I'm standing on that. It's a bad movie.
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna you're hearing my feelings.
<v Speaker 1>Now, well you got it coming, misters. So then you've
<v Speaker 1>got uh, Harold Ramis, You've got uh, you.
<v Speaker 2>Got Caddy Shack, you got vacation, You've got groundhog Day,
<v Speaker 2>you got multiplicity.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so it's gonna go. So multiplicity is the worst.
<v Speaker 1>Then you've got vacation number three. Vacation is number three, okay,
<v Speaker 1>Caddy Shack. I'm gonna watch before I watch vacation Oak.
<v Speaker 1>And number one is groundhog Day. I love groundhog Day.
<v Speaker 1>Top of the list for me for sure.
<v Speaker 2>Wow.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, how about you?
<v Speaker 2>Number one? Vacation best Harold Raymis movie ever.
<v Speaker 1>Wow?
<v Speaker 2>Then groundhog Day, Then Caddy Shack, Okay, then multiplicity, and
<v Speaker 2>I love Caddy Shack. But vacation is the best. Man,
<v Speaker 2>It's so funny.
<v Speaker 1>So let's I mean, just because you've said this absolute nonsense,
<v Speaker 1>I'm go got I gotta ask this question. What multiplicity
<v Speaker 1>or the great outdoors?
<v Speaker 2>Which one is multiplicity?
<v Speaker 1>Every day of the week, you are out of your
<v Speaker 1>frigging mind and such out of your mind.
<v Speaker 2>No, Michael Keener or dan Aykroyd.
<v Speaker 1>People, you you should come and denounce Jason right now
<v Speaker 1>for what he is saying about the great outdoors. It
<v Speaker 1>is terrible.
<v Speaker 2>Well, we want to hear from you, guys. How did
<v Speaker 2>we do? Where do you? Where do you weigh these two?
<v Speaker 2>I love the Summer of eighty eight. This one just
<v Speaker 2>didn't quite hit me. I think it's a sweet movie,
<v Speaker 2>and it does give me nostalgic feelings. My family used
<v Speaker 2>to go to the lake. It's just not not even
<v Speaker 2>close to as good as vacation. But if I'm wrong,
<v Speaker 2>I want you to come after me.
<v Speaker 1>You wouldn't know a good movie if it fell out
<v Speaker 1>of a sky, landed on your face and started a
<v Speaker 1>wigle my friend, how about a zagnut oh man?
<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, that wraps up this matchup. Hit us
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<v Speaker 2>are covering Cinderella's Long Cold Winter again, another album from
<v Speaker 2>the summer of nineteen eighty eight. It's unbelievable. And then
<v Speaker 2>the week after that we're gonna compare it to Van
<v Speaker 2>Halen's Oh You eight one two? Uh Hey, Gar, We'll
<v Speaker 2>get to that. We'll get to that from the summer
<v Speaker 2>of nineteen eighty eight. That's gonna be a great matchup.
<v Speaker 2>We've got some friends joining us for that. Come back
<v Speaker 2>next week, that great matchup.
<v Speaker 1>See you guys then, thank you so much. We can't
<v Speaker 1>do it without you. See you next week, Thy guys,