Blue Jays Manager John Schneider joins FT: Epic run, Big adds, Berrios controversy, Bieber’s health

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Speaker 1: Managers meeting.

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Speaker 2: Blue Jays manager John Schneider sitting next to us right now in Orlando live at the Winter meetings.

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Speaker 1: Schnid's good to see you, man.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, good to be here. Good seeing you guys as always.

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Speaker 4: You see they put in the middle of the manager's meeting. Do you see they put the like the last one right in the middle, Big Tony. Yeah, like the best looking manager.

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Speaker 3: Look, it's tough.

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Speaker 5: To be in the same room with that guy. Just had him for the first time. I was kind of like, you know, cowered away quickly. It just didn't want to look at him too long.

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Speaker 1: Did you say, hey, Rookie, like a third of the room.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what's up, brook Welcome to the big leagues.

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Speaker 6: No, well, you could get that with Terry.

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Speaker 5: And there's a lot of a lot of new guys. I feel like not the new guy now kind of a little bit. So it's nice to get to know these guys too. I think Tony's doing obviously cool stuff with with Tennessee and you know, really well respected, so I just kind of get to know him a little bit.

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Speaker 1: How are you feeling after your October tie?

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Speaker 5: I mean it was I think I'm at the point now where you kind of past the obsession of looking at everything and being disappointed and you kind of look back at all the good that we did, do you know, ninety four wins compared to seventy four of the year before, you know, winning the Al, winning the division, so many cool stories, and I think just you know, being really really proud of how we kind of raise the level of expectation and standards with the Blue Jays and on to twenty twenty six and how we can get back there.

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Speaker 6: All right.

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Speaker 4: So that's that's gonna lead me right to my question. We had Hinch on yesterday and yeah, they lost an epic series to the Mariners. So you guys went on to beat When did you get over it? Because I asked him, I said, are you are? When do you get over it? He goes, You're thinking I'm over it?

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Speaker 3: Right right?

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Speaker 4: And he didn't even get as far as I mean you The guys were like, I mean, inches inches away from having everything.

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Speaker 5: I got asked that yesterday, and I don't think I'll ever get over it, you know. I think that the only thing that gets you over it is getting back there and winning it, you know. But I think just you're going to all think about that he's in that team and so many crazy plays forever, you know, So you kind of take a lot of pride in being part of it and being able to manage that. I tried to really take in the days and the moments before the game started and just appreciate where you are. So in terms of getting over it, I think it'll just be with me kind of forever.

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Speaker 7: What moment is it for you? Because in fourteen we lost Game seven with Alex Gordon on third. For me, it's the Joe panic moment where he dove back up the middle to stop a ground or to start a groundball double play. Like I think about that as much as I think about Gordo hitting a triple in the left center field gap. What's the moment for you when you think about the loss, because that's what it is, it's a loss.

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Speaker 3: Right What you think about?

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Speaker 5: The one I always go back to is bases loaded and varsh in the ground ball to Rojas.

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Speaker 3: That's what I always go back to.

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Speaker 5: Like would be lying if I didn't say, you know, you wake up in the middle of the night thinking about that play. You know I still do not. You know, every week, but maybe every couple of weeks at this point. But there were so many other things. It was so weird to have that play not go your way, you know, by a matter of inches, and then twenty seconds later, kind of the same thing happens when Ernie hits the ball to left and Pages and Kik, you know, are brought into each other. So you in your mind, you're expecting a different outcome. You're expecting that ball to drop or you're expecting, you know, a wide throw home, and none of them really happened. So you just find yourself in this in this moment of wow, and then you kind of got you have three minutes to readjust and get back to the next inning. But those obviously because they were the last you know, images really for us that we had a chance. And so many things though, going back to Game six with the ball getting stuck in the wall and you know, the eighteen inning game in game three, There's just so many, but I think the ones that just were the last ones is what sticks out to you, all.

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Speaker 7: Right, So in spring training you go over things that are going to help you guys win the world too. That play you just talked about, the Dalton varshow play. Is there anything in spring training that's going Obviously it's gonna be brought up. People are gonna be like that are still there? Is there anything that will change as far as the like approach to that play, how you guys will approach it and from the Isaiah Kiner FILEFFA base.

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Speaker 5: Running Yeah, you know, I think you're always trying to learn to get better, right, That's like the corporate answer, and that's kind of how we operate. But it gives you a chance to kind of drill down a little bit more. Looking back, I think we could have done a better job of getting Izzy off a little bit. You know, the it wasn't you know runner at third on contact, You're just going he's reading the play, He's understanding that Will Smith likes to pick the third with the left handed hitter up Izz. He's a smart baseball player, so all those things are going through his head. If anything, just kind of drilling down a little bit more. And the odds of Varsh I think lining out to third are very very slim, so giving himself a little bit more room off the bag and maybe that's the difference, you know, So I think all those things you as bad as it was in real time and as it will be forever. You know, you say, what could you do different? I think that's the one thing, you know, that we could have done a better job for him, to give him the freedom to get off a little bit. But I know he's gotten the brunt of it, man, and I hate that he's wearing it. You know, I think the world of him as a player, and he's a smart, smart baseball player.

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Speaker 3: So that's it.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 5: If we can prepare a little bit more and just say, hey, if this situation comes up and it is Dalton varshow against the right handed pitcher, you can give yourself a little bit more room.

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Speaker 4: I got two things, and I hate to bring this up, but it was such a big thing. There was so much back and forth. You get it right, he didn't do it right.

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Speaker 6: Carlos Feblys, I've known forever at their base coach. You know, there's the did he tell him where to stand and where to start?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 4: Fine, that's neither here nor there. My thing is, you're a catchman. I was a catcher. I played in the World Series, I played in huge games. There's not a chance in holy hell that he Ain's picking a third base with the World Series on the line, because all he's got to do is if IKF doesn't go in, it hits him in the back, it lose the word ain't happening, right, And we had Max Munsey and he.

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Speaker 6: Said, oh, we had talked about it.

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Speaker 3: Bullshit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no chance that he is. There's no chance that that pick is happening. And then so that's fine. I get you know, all these things are going through your head and it's happening fast. But have you seen the new thing that teams are doing. The Tigers do what the Rays do it. Or there's a right handed hitter, they take their guy on third and they put him in fair territory and they have the runner actually take his lead in fair territory. And I asked why they do this and Hinch, Hinch, Hinch drew me a diagram. But if Joey Kora had already told me why they do it, and it's to get the third basement off the line, because the chances of get Dalton VARs show hitting a line drive to the third base and are like almost zero, okay, but it makes the third baseman get off the line. It takes away the pick because the third basement's too far away. And plus when the third is a sure when you look down there and the guy's are got no lane to throw it. Yeah, so and then it it eliminates let's say, bar just a ground ball to third, they're already you're kind of aurady in his lane to throw it home.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: So have you seen that play?

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Speaker 7: Now?

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Speaker 6: We think talk about that, like kratsaid in spring training.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there's always things that are just kind of counter counter moves to a move, you know what I mean, that stuff that we have to kind of you know, take into consideration for sure, and it's really hard. Like I agree with you, I would. I would have been shocked if we'll try to pick him off at third.

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Speaker 4: I will if Will Smith it picks him off at third, I mean, you know what you say, You're like, you.

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Speaker 3: Know what, right, you got it?

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Speaker 5: So it's like there's all these advanced reports and it's like, okay, he does do that. I think just removing yourself from just the information and just saying where am I right now? Is that gonna happen? Probably not, you know, I think it's just how is he checks down? You know, what I mean, his his his checkpoint, just like here's where I'm at, Here's where this guy is. But yeah, I've seen that play. I know the Tigers are really good at those things. We've seen guys do that. I saw guys they year even scoring from second and they were just cutting so close they are in the grass to try to make you know, a tough throw, even tougher going into home plates. So those are because of that play. Yeah, we've we've definitely tried to dive into some of that stuff.

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Speaker 7: You've seen, Vladdie. Since you guys were both babies, you kind of came up through the minor leagues with him. The run he put together in the playoffs, is that the hottest streak? I'm even talking fisher Cat, Dunedin Blue Jay, Vladdie, Like, is that the hottest streak or the most locked in you've ever seen? And do you feel like maybe a little bit. If it had been his free agent year, it would have been a little bit tougher for him to lock in. But since he had security, you know what, that's where he was at.

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Speaker 3: Starting with the security part.

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Speaker 5: I think that when he did sign the extension, that kind of freed him up a little bit and freed up everyone a little bit, like, hey, here's what we're doing right now, and here's what we're doing for the long term. So yes, I have seen him as hot as that before. I've never seen him as locked in, you know, And I noticed it. Even we win the division, we got four or five days off and we're doing workouts at the stadium, we're doing sim games and things like that. There was just a different way about him even in those days leading up to the to the DS, and he carried it right on through the World Series. It was really cool for the world to kind of see him for the player. He is not just a hitter. Everyone thinks about the hitter. But what he did, you know, running the base is what he did defensively. He was just in the zone.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 5: He's in that spot where elite athletes, elite performers can get to. So now it's just how do you maintain that? You know, That's that's the next conversation with Ladd is just how do you keep yourself there as much as you can? Almost impossible to do it one sixty two, but he's shown he can do it. He was just on a different level I think at one point, I don't know if you finished the postseason, but he had more home runs and strikeouts, which is which is pretty remarkable. So it was fun to be in the du i watching him do his thing.

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Speaker 4: Okay, well, then how'd you carry this over to twenty twenty six? You know, I know people say it's a different year, and I'm not talking about just flat, I'm talking about the team in general. Because you guys were humble, your pitching was unbelievable, your bullpen was locked in. You guys are getting huge hits from one through nine in the lineup. As a manager, how do you carry this over to twenty twenty six? I know every year is different, but now you bringing Dylan Ceas and you're in, You're there's all kinds of rumors about, you know, Toronto's kind of almost becoming like a little bit of a destination place where people when to go after seeing what you guys did last year? So how do you as the manager carry this over to the next year?

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Speaker 5: So I wish I knew, you know what I mean, I know a lot good problem that had though, right, it's a good problem to have a lot of people have been through this and we actually met last week, brought the staff down here. We talked about that. It's like, how do you latch onto the good things we did? And it's easy to think about just the postseason, right, it just happened, but it wasn't always great. You know, back in April and May, we're grinding a little bit and Okay, what did we do differently to get on this role?

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Speaker 3: So I think I've said this a lot.

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Speaker 5: I feel like this year we've been very aligned top to about him front office, to coaches, to players, and down to the minor league system. So I think everyone's doing their part. And you know, Ross is going out and he's added to really good starting pitchers already. He's going to continue to try to make our team better. But I think my job and the staff's job is to just really stay on these guys. These guys that kind of turned into household names, Ernie Clement, Madison Barger, you know, Alejandra Kirk, they kind of I don't want them, Nathan Lucas. I don't want them to feel like they have to be anything different. That's my big I don't want to say concern, but that's my focus with these guys going into next year. It's just you have to continue to be who you are and be good at what you're good at. So that part we'll have to, I think drill down on a little bit, and then just what did the how did the culture get to where it got to and what everyone saw, you know, throughout the postseason was legit and real. The guys loved each other, they loved coming to the park, They pulled for one another, they didn't care who got the credit. So from that standpoint, we've raised that expectation. You can kind of say, Okay, this is how we do things. And I do think it helped, you know, teams kind of took notice, and players kind of took notice. You know, the feedback that I was getting in the outreach I was getting during the postseason from other managers and other players was phenomenal. So how do we just bottle that up and say, what were we doing when it was really good?

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Speaker 3: And let's continue to do it all? Right?

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Speaker 7: Well, part of that culture was one of the reasons that Shane Bieber said, I'm going to pick up my player option now from an outsider's view, and you can tell me which of these options is the case he's either hurt and wants to guarantee this one next year, and so he might start a little start a little later in the season. To this clubhouse culture is something that's never been seen before. And he would turn down thirty plus million in the off season or three. You have pictures of him and so it's blackmail and you brought him back, So Witches.

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Speaker 5: It's definitely not three. He's pretty, he's got it. He's pretty button up. I think, you know, he's it's a weird thing coming off of Tommy John, you.

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Speaker 3: Know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: And he he did everything we could have hoped for and more. He really fit in really well, really quickly with our group. And when I say that too, it was players, it was staff, and it was you know, their wives and kids too. I feel like we do a phenomenal job of that. So everyone kind of felt at home. And as of now, I mean, Beebs is on track for opening day. You know, it's anyone coming off that surgery and then pitching as deep into the World Series as he did coming out of the bullpen in Game seven, We're going to be mindful of his workload, you know.

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Speaker 3: So whether there was some doubt in his mind.

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Speaker 5: You know, I'm not really sure, you know, but in terms of talking to him now and getting ready for spring, we're just going to be mindful and kind of take it week to week on how he's feeling. But the expectation is that he's going to be ready for opening day. So I think it's a combination maybe of the first two, you know, him taking care of him self physically, but at the same time being really comfortable in this surroundings.

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Speaker 3: He was in how real before we move on?

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Speaker 4: Because I I kind of hit on this and when we were doing our postseason stuff with Tommy John. Guys, especially when they first come back, it's almost every other start, right, they had a really good start and they kind of and they lose it. And we asked him because we had him on and he kind of it. He kind of admitted it in a weird way, like, yes, when you have one really good start and the next one it's not the same, and then the next one's really good again, and then you is that a real thing for guys that you've noticed with Tommy John?

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Speaker 3: Kind of yeah, it's it's up and down.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 5: His first start to Mammy was like I think six score lists punched out nine no walks, and everyone says command comes last. You know, stuff is there, but command comes last. He had his command throughout the whole time he was back with us, and there were some ups and downs, and I think it's just you spend so much time on a routine, on a schedule. Here's where I'm throwing, here's my side day, here's my game day. You don't really have time to deload a little bit. You're just going, going, going, So that probably plays into it. We tried to give him, him and everyone extra rest as we got down later in the season, went to a six man at one point for a turn or two through and you kind of never know, you know what I mean to me, it's always.

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Speaker 3: The next year.

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Speaker 5: Then guys are really feeling like themselves and you know they have a regular offseason, not a rehab off season, and hopefully kind of hit the ground run and get back to the cy young caliber picture that he has been.

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Speaker 4: Okay, then let's talk about another one of your pictures. There's a big story that came out not too long ago. A guy missed the World Series. Yes, did you know?

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Speaker 6: Did you understand? Because I know he was mad and but how weird is that?

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Speaker 4: And then then you have a whole conversation about his teammates and what do they do? So how do you handle that going into spring training?

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Speaker 5: You know, I think you handle it in the off season. For one, I mean, Posey's been so good for us, you know, and he was not happy moving out of the rotation. That was well documented and he probably took a day to be pissed, and then you know, said, Okay, this is what's best for the team, and unfortunately, you know, goes on the il. He had been battling that all year and he's such a prideful guy and making his starts, so he was feeling he was feeling it a little bit. And then when we were traveling back and forth to Seattle, you know, some guys stay back. He was one of those guys that stay back. And then with the World Series, it was, Hey, I need to spend time with my family. That's what we were told. We're obviously gonna, you know, respect that, and he's a he's a big time family man. And right now, you handle it the best you can. You say, hey, Hosey, we're here to help you get better. If he feels bad about it, or if his teammates have certain feelings about it. You just got to get in front of it and make sure that when everyone arrives in February that everyone's kind of understanding what happened and on the same page and give him a little bit of forgiveness.

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Speaker 3: But you know, Jose is a great teammate.

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Speaker 5: He's done so much in his career, and I think that, you know, when the dust settles, I think he'll be viewed, you know, the exact same way as he has been his entire career.

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Speaker 6: Good answer, do.

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Speaker 7: You anticipate anticipate anybody in the clubhouse, like from uprisings that was happening, because we talked about it that guys in the clubhouse maybe would be pissed in spring training, But in the World Series, No, we gotta play on the field, Like we're not like, oh, who's not here? Oh?

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Speaker 5: No, Like, yeah, it's in World Series. It's kind of like, hey, when does the game start? You know what I mean, You're not worrying about all these other things. How are we going to win tonight? I mean, really, it already has started to be handled. It will be handled before we get to spring training, So it's not a thing in spring training. You know, it's just you know, him and myself and the other guys and the team just sorting through some things kind of you know, airing some things out a little bit and saying, hey.

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Speaker 3: Hosie, you are You're part of our rotation.

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Speaker 5: You know, it wasn't that we wanted to take you out of the rotation when we did when trade came up. But you know, this is what we're doing right now to try to win. Doesn't mean it's going to be like that in twenty twenty six. So I think just squaring that away with him and man, I mean, if we're going to get back to where we want to get to, he's going to be a huge part of it.

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Speaker 3: So that'll be handled before we even get going to camp.

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Speaker 4: All right, twenty twenty six defending American League champions. You already brought Dylan seas biggest, one of the biggest signings so far of the off season.

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Speaker 6: What's next for the Blue Jays? Do you have any say or you like, Hey, I want I want to do it.

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Speaker 7: I can't.

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Speaker 6: I'm not going to name names, you know, you know, the.

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Speaker 5: Nation though the visitation document to visit our complex and I said, no, it's only for free agents, but I'm a free agent, said, I'm still a free agent.

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Speaker 4: I've actually been to it because my son played for the Blue Jay scout team, so they used to do all kinds of stuff there.

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Speaker 5: It's incredible, pretty nice. It's unbelieva. Yah, it's the best one I've seen. I think it's one of one, I really do. I think I hate though, and this is me being nitpicky as hell. The stadium's not there.

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Speaker 4: You got to get on the bus, you know, if you got the double decker bus, you guys have to get on the.

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Speaker 5: Grid to build the whole complex by the stadium. There wasn't enough land, so we kind of had to do what we got to do. But in terms of what's next, I think you get cees, you know, you get ponds in the rotation. And we're still looking to add We're still looking to add a bat. We're talking with Bo, We've met with Tucker. We'd love to have Bo back, you know what I mean. I think that what he does for our lineup in our clubhouse is kind of underrated and undervalued. When you have guy like Vlad who signed long term, but I think that's an area we want to address, you know, make sure we have another bat there and then looking for some high leverage relief options, you know, at the back.

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Speaker 3: End of the pen.

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Speaker 5: So it's it's cool right now because we're we're hitting that part. You know, this has been building for a few years in Toronto in terms of ownership, support, payroll, players, facilities, and it's it's shown on the field. So I think having this success we've had makes it a little bit more desirable to come here. We've definitely heard that from players and agents and comfortable to say that we will continue to try to get better as this month unfolds.

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Speaker 7: Can you put an over under on the amount of starts that your organization feels Trey us average is going to make. Obviously, just coming up last year now has more playoff starts than regular season starts. We heard all the stories, just like you hitting a home run and then hanging up your cleats. They told the story like a yeah, they told it though, Joe Davis told that story probably seven times, sick of it.

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Speaker 5: So that was when the Dodgers were losing. He just wanted to fill the air because when they were winning, he was going crazy. Stop it, I got I got a bone to pick with Joe.

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Speaker 6: Stop.

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Speaker 3: Okay, to stop broadcast anyway, stop anyway?

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Speaker 4: Okay, hold on, no, no, now we're going to have a bone to pick because I do these games. Yes, what you understand is whoever's winning is who they're who we talk about, because what am I going to talk about if you're losing?

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Speaker 5: True, maybe me hanging up my spikes as a bad player at spring training. But anyway, that's a cool story. That's cool story for like one second, you know what I mean. But I think Bobashid didn't the three on Homer off Otani's look cooler, and you know fly ball to center that Boll's gone.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, that's not Wait.

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Speaker 1: So is it because he's a Dodgers guy?

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Speaker 6: Well, you know you sound like right now every Blue Jays fan on the planet.

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Speaker 3: I had to get it out.

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Speaker 5: I was actually and he covered us the entire postseason. Him and Smulti, they're awesome and he's got one of the best voices in the game. I love his energy. He reached out to me before it even started. If we saw him for three days in l a and he told me Hey, if you hit to the postseason, I'm going to cover you. I got all the respect in the world for him. He's really cool. I think he's great at what he does. But I had to get that out there. It's a little subtle.

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Speaker 4: I can't put my phone will be as soon as this airs, my phone will be ringing and it'll be Joe and he's gonna be like, you need to.

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Speaker 3: I should like text him, And I'm done with this.

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Speaker 4: Because we have this conversation all the time, Like when I do games and I don't care honestly, Now Joe's a little different because he I really don't care who wins, right, I just want a good game. Right.

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Speaker 6: But as you're doing the game, if you look on Twitter and you go to social media, why do you like this team? Why do you like the Blue Jays? Why do you hate the Dodgers?

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Speaker 4: Right? And then two seconds later somebody be like, why do you love the Dodgers? Why do you hate And it's the same within a minute of each other. That was just depending on how you look at it.

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Speaker 3: That wasn't me.

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Speaker 5: We didn't hear the broadcast. That was some complaints from some family and some friends and some other people around because they're rotten for us, you know. So, But going back to Trey, going back to Trey, Uh, there's going to be no restrictions, really, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: I think that we were really deliberate and careful with.

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Speaker 5: His innings this year, his first full season, and there wasn't an innings limit this year, and it's going to be a normal workload for him next year. I think just being very mindful of his offseason work. We've already been in touch with him numerous times about when he's starting to throw, and I think, look, looking ahead, man, you pencil him in to make pretty regular starts for us. If that means thirty two, great, you know, if it means twenty seven, great, But we're looking for him to just lot right into the rotation.

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Speaker 6: Did you keep him hidden a whole year on purpose?

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Speaker 4: Because there's this big conspiracy theory that you guys didn't want to bring him up too early because we knew what we had and we don't want to show anybody.

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Speaker 5: There was maybe a little bit of gamesmanship, but at the same time, you're not trying to call a guy up in and disrupt everything he's been. He's been doing, you know, just a transition to the big leagues.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 5: He came up and I think there was like two weeks left in our season and he pitched against Tampa, pitched against Kansas City, and then pitched against Tampa again.

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Speaker 6: You know, all non playoff teams, you know, but all.

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Speaker 5: I kind of must win games to try to win the division, you know, So we the one time we thought about, Okay, Boston was in there. We were playing Boston at home and possible playoff opponent. Do we want them to see him because it's a unique look, like it's it's tough to game plan for unless you've seen it, So that that played into it a little bit. That was kind of the appeal to have him pitch against the Yankees as well, against a veteran team that can game plan really well.

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Speaker 3: But no, we didn't. We didn't hide him.

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Speaker 5: I think we wanted to wait for the right time that we were really comfortable that he could contribute when he.

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Speaker 3: To come up.

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Speaker 2: I have aim more something really grinding my gears that I think you're gonna like. It's about Dylan's pace. We had him on yesterday. He signs with you guys, and then of course, if you're a fan of say the Padres are gonna miss him and you're pissed that he's going somewhere else whatever. Right, so we see a lot on social media and you just get the endless like, oh, if Reuben Nablin, the Padres pitching program couldn't get him to be a number one, then like this is such a bad signing whatever. I basically told this to him, Yeah, yesterday, Okay, So I just wanted to get your take on how you guys had conversations with him and this is zero knock on prior teams. Let's also remember Dylan has had cy young high level voting periods right and finishes in his lifetime. So I just want to get your take on that, because part of his answer was about, you know, his slider shape, and it seemed like he was giving us a little taste of Hey, you can grate a pitch, but then what if I open up a little more and then you can see that pitch better? Is the pitch really grading well in terms of the shape, but they're seeing it out of my hand? So I just thought he got really granular, and it sounded like he did that with your team.

00:24:59
Speaker 5: He did, Yeah, he's he's a he's a sharp guy, you know. And I think that when you're presenting yourself to these players on a zoom call with the agent and all this, you didn't get a yeah. I mean that might have been next if you didn't sign, might have just tried to show some bells and whistles off. But it was weird, Like I think, it was an hour and a half conversation and we all on the call kind of hit it off, you know, Pete Walker, Graham, Johnson, Sam Green, bullpen coach and assistant pitching coach. They you know, kind of had some ideas, you know, on a power point to say, here's where we think obviously respecting his stuff and his swing and miss stuff is profile of all of his pitches. Dylan was pretty adamant about, Hey, how can you help maximize my potential?

00:25:42
Speaker 3: And that kind of opened a door for us.

00:25:43
Speaker 5: And I think what we've been we've been a really good job of hiring coaches that have good content, but they can coach it, you know. So when you get into that little presentation some biomechanical stuff, some pitch design stuff with Sam and Graham, and then you kind of finish off the pitching thought as a whole with Pete Walker was going into year fifteen with the Blue Jays. It's a pretty inviting thing to have for a picture who's very well aware of how his stuff works. So we felt when we hung up the phone that it was a really good match. He had some really cool feedback in that in that call, and you know, Scott Morris followed up with Ross and said he was really impressed with what we had to offer. So it happened quick really. I mean we signed him maybe like a week later after that call. And so everyone's different. You know, some guys they don't want all that information. We have it all, and he was a guy that really seemed like he wanted to hear it all, so that I think played into it.

00:26:36
Speaker 3: And Dylan's an easy guy to.

00:26:38
Speaker 7: Like, right. Last one. First of all, Trey needs somebody to throw with. I'm just twenty minutes south of him, so give him my phone number. If he needs somebody a long toss I'll go, Ye are you.

00:26:50
Speaker 3: Still long, Austin? Are you still long?

00:26:51
Speaker 1: Toosson?

00:26:52
Speaker 6: Yeah?

00:26:53
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm high school coach. I got to show these kids, I'm pretty sure. By ucl Is gone though. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's the days are numbered. But my last comment is during the World Series, we have a group thread that you're not on called the Round Up Slayers. It's it's Brad Hasse, drag Yesovich and we were all going, I mean, it's it's the Crew, Veto Chaer Belati, everybody, Carlo Coda. We were all going to come up if you guys won the World Series, we were going to come up and surprise you at the parade. So just remember that when you're pushing the rest of the year.

00:27:29
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, all right, Well that is a carrot at the end of the stick that is like no other. To try to win it next year, joining the parade and if I do see you guys, there'll be some beers involved and drinks and beyond me.

00:27:43
Speaker 1: That was it that pushes you over the top.

00:27:45
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all that's all I need. Right, So I want to know.

00:27:47
Speaker 6: Where your cleats are They still hanging somewhere?

00:27:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's some backfield in Saint Pete, you know, somewhere.

00:27:52
Speaker 4: Three Carlos Klado he got them put them on.

00:27:58
Speaker 8: What was his name, Kretzi who you said Carlos was one of the guys car are a ball double Carlow Coda, Yeah.

00:28:10
Speaker 6: He took that.

00:28:11
Speaker 1: Plus Carlos Colaso from.

00:28:13
Speaker 7: Uh Jose, Ambria took him because he was.

00:28:20
Speaker 3: He was standard standard. Yeah, I'll make it work.

00:28:25
Speaker 1: You give it to me, I'll fit. It's good to see you man, Thanks for your guy.

00:28:29
Speaker 2: Appreciate to catch up and see you After all that, it was a freaking hell of a bride to watch.

00:28:33
Speaker 3: Thanks man. It's fun to be part of and hopefully we get bactors