TGI – Episode 313 “New Friends and Old”

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Speaker 1: I have a story about my mug.

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Speaker 2: Oh it's a very big it's very very loud.

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Speaker 1: Gorgo about rushmore mug. So this is this is it. This is one of the camper van stories from the summer.

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Speaker 2: The summer of twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: Oh, the summer of twenty twenty three, which was man, guys had some eyes, that had some lows. Was our our family was put to the test and one of the you know, it was great, it was ultimately really worth it. We're all in therapy.

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Speaker 3: It's fine.

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Speaker 1: But the one one of the best worst moments is we're camping. We okay, let me just say you guys will be not shocked to discover I don't really like touristy things.

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Speaker 2: No, no, that's impossible. You love that, right, So it a lot.

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Speaker 1: Of character that I have a right okay. So and you know, and while we were traveling, I started to realize, like I get stressed out by very specific things, and I realized a lot of it goes back to my dad when we used to travel as kids. He just we were always getting screwed, like money was just like you know, he grew up with with nothing.

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Speaker 2: So taken advantage of everybody.

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Speaker 1: We were taking being taken advantage of by everything. So if you have to pay for this, you have to hire somebody to take you something, you know, And so he never wanted to buy anything, never wanted to pay for anything, and so traveling was always this like crazy stressful time of like, oh my god, everyone's out to get us. We're not gonna you know, we have to save money. So we would always be like, you know, camping in like the worst situation on the side of the road.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I just want to clarify, because you weren't.

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Speaker 4: You don't think you were actually being taken advantage of all the time. Your dad's perception was that anytime you needed to pay for something, that person was trying to screw you.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely never, you don't have to pay for hotel rooms, you don't have to pay for anything. So we would always be like in London in a rain storm, like doing great trips, like we were very adventurous, but we would always be stuck without a place to sleep because my dad to do with it. And it's taken a lot of time for me to realize this and be like why am I so stressed out about like traveling it's like it's okay if you budget correctly, you know. But it's just my dad thing.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 1: He grew up with nothing, like no money, and it's just, you know, it's hard to get over that. He's gotten a lot better now. Now he enjoys himself. And I tell him all the time, like, you it's okay, you know, you can buy the plane ticket and enjoy yourself. It's fun. So he's and he's gotten very good at it. But I so here. So we we're camping and we find out that we're where we're camping is like right next to Amount rush And like it was like we see all the signs everywhere, and Alex is like, oh, tomorrow morning and when you know we wake up, we should you know, we'll see Mount Rushmore. And I'm like, oh yeah, well, we're definitely it's on our path. And we're driving and we're you know, waiting for it's a beautiful part of the country South Dakota, and then like, you know, you see it. It was like, no, there it is on that hill and you look, there's Mount Rushmore and it's like, oh, is it as big as we thought?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 1: And then we're driving and then Alex is like what are you doing? And I'm like, oh, we saw it, and she's like, no, we're going. I thought we were going. We're gonna park. I'm like, do you know how much they charge you to park? Like, no, we're not. That's that's like, but what you want to park at?

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Speaker 2: And then what then when we can drive by it?

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Speaker 3: We just saw it?

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Speaker 1: What do you want to do? We're to spend fifteen dollars? This is how they get you. This is who's getting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're getting my father.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sitting I'm like screaming at my wife like no, there's no way I am paying money to go to my and she's like, what is wrong with you? I'm like, oh god, oh my god, you know, and poor Indies in the back like what's happening? And and then pulling in of angrily paying for the thing, and.

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Speaker 6: Then unbelievable sighteen dollars to see a national monumental Oh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to celebrate the presidents. What's next? Right? And and then we get out and of course you know, by now we're laughing, and then Indy has like the best time, and then Alex is like, well, let's go to the gift shop. I'm like, oh, of course we're going to the gift shop. So I bought the biggest.

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Speaker 3: Mug I could for you, Indy.

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Speaker 1: We got India Glue in the dark Mount Rushmore T shirt and like he loves it. And now it's like we come home and all we do is just laugh. We're like, oh, this was that's amazing.

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Speaker 3: Writer.

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Speaker 2: How much was the mug? I guarantee you it is more than the parking.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sure it was more. That's how they get you.

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Speaker 3: They get you. They get you.

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Speaker 2: In with the marketing and then then they charge all the stuff.

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Speaker 1: Capitalists people trying to make money off and make money. That's why you don't want to have fun. You have to save your money.

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Speaker 5: Don't let at least Danielle doesn't want to have fun because she's just not a fun person.

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Speaker 3: You don't want to pay for fun. That's the strange part.

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Speaker 4: If I know other people are going to have a good time, I'm more than willing to pay for it. I want other people to have fun, and I'll give you a ton of money to make the fun easy for me.

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Speaker 2: I have no bride. I'm going to a concert. Oh the parking right next to the place I'm going is seventy five dollars. That's reasonable. It'll get me out of here faster. I'm in for it from.

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Speaker 4: The fun fastest. When the fun is over, when how can I get out of here?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just the opposite, by the way, meaning like if I'm in a gift shop and it's like it's an eighty dollars Viking helmet, I'm like.

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Speaker 3: I have to have this, And Sue's like, for.

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Speaker 5: What what do you need a plastic Viking helmet for?

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, because I have to be a Viking today.

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Speaker 1: Like it was just one giant storage unit, Like where.

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Speaker 5: Is no And that's the thing is we don't we don't have a whole bunch of jobs.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a storage do you have multiple storage.

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Speaker 3: In I don't have any storage in it. And we just keep all this filled.

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Speaker 5: We just filled a full size I'm so forty by seven foot dumpster with junk and now.

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Speaker 3: It was magical.

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Speaker 5: It was truly did you like paid for a dumpster to come and like we had it for a week. We had a dumpster in front of our house for a week and we fill it was five hundred bucks for the entire week, and it was the best money I think I spent water.

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Speaker 2: It's five hundred dollars to park a dumpster.

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Speaker 3: Dumpster in front of your house, but you get a moment dumpster mode. It was the great thing. It was the great well.

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Speaker 5: By the way, while you're at Mount Rushmore, did you find Sibyla?

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Speaker 3: No, you didn't find the City of Gold. Have you not seen National Treasure too?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 1: No. It was funny because there is a plague that says National Treasure too, and we're like, you should probably.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Poor Ed Harris died Abla.

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Speaker 4: My thing with your story is that I'm with you. Drive by and see it. You've seen it. There's nothing else to see. I went and saw the Grand Canyon. I took a road trip from California to Oklahoma and stopped at a bunch of different places on the way. We took Root sixty six as much as we could and stayed in all the cool places and got to the Grand Canyon, got.

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Speaker 2: Out and I was like, oh my gosh, this is gorgeous. Stood there for maybe two minutes and then was like, let's go see.

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Speaker 1: That's a problem. It's a parking lot. I mean it's still it's you have to. Yeah, we actually did the Grand Canyon really well. We found a tour where you are in a private car with somebody who lives on the Navajo property that and they take you onto the Navajo land where no one else is. And it was literally us on the edge of the Grand Canyon in like three different spots, like a four hour tour. It was amazing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's I did something I should not have done at the Grand Canyon. And to this day, it's one of those things when I'm a kid. Like as a kid, I look back.

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Speaker 1: And go, you threw something over the edge.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 5: I My friend and I waited till dark and snuck under all the security things and literally hung our legs off of the edge and laid back and just.

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Speaker 3: Looked at all the stars for like four hours.

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Speaker 2: It was that sounds pretty awesome.

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Speaker 3: Unbelievable, But you look back and it's like one slip and you're done. It's the hitch black. I so it.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't handle like like Indie. Walking towards the edge of things freaks me out more than anything in the world. I'm like, no, dude, I can't be with you. Around the edge of something like I'm just too stressed. It's like, I don't especially.

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Speaker 5: If you paid for to be around that thing, you actually paid, how they.

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Speaker 1: Get you, You're gonna you get screwed. Man.

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Speaker 3: See Danielle and I rider.

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Speaker 5: This is why we missed you on our part of the road trip, because even though the r part of the road trip was small, we still ended up in some pretty marvelous places, like Danielle, where was the one place where it was just all the wind chimes.

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Speaker 3: For some reason, that.

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Speaker 2: Was the place with all the chocolate.

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Speaker 5: Yes, it had chocolate wind chimes and puzzles, lots of puzzles and kids toys from like the eighteen hundreds, where it's.

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Speaker 2: Like it was pretty cool.

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Speaker 3: It was cool, it was really cool. I can't remember where we were though.

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Speaker 4: I don't remember where we were either, because I actually don't remember the names of the places we went at all either.

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Speaker 1: I don't. You have to keep a road journal. That's what we started doing because we realized, like we don't remember anything from previous trips, they all blend together. So now we keep a road journal and we go through it every night together as a family, and we all write notes and then we left it out in the rain and it got soaked and a lot of the pages bled together, So that will be interesting.

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Speaker 2: But that's how they get to a road journal.

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Speaker 3: They get you.

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Speaker 4: And now it is your chance. Go to Podmeets Worldshow dot com now for your tickets and we will see you soon. So today we are recapping season three, episode thirteen, New Friends and Old. It originally air January nineteenth, nineteen ninety six. The synopsis Frankie becomes friends with Corey and Sewan in hopes of turning over a new leaf, but ends up hurt when he discovers the guy's had ulterior motives. It was directed by John Tracy. It was written by Matthew Nelson. Rest in Peace and Uh guest starring Ethan Sipplea is Frankie Stacchino. Now worth noting we have now seen the end of Blake's Joey the Rat.

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Speaker 2: He did not.

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Speaker 3: I was wondering about that.

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Speaker 1: It's ever comes back.

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Speaker 2: He never comes back.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes he does, Yes he does. The graduation we.

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Speaker 1: Have like thanksgiving his house.

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Speaker 4: Yes, there are still more solo episodes of Ethan Is, but Blake is done. So we have now seen the end of blake Joey the Rat. They do come back for the reunion or the graduation episode where there's a little reunion, but such a bummer because I was man just so thoroughly enjoying all of that.

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Speaker 2: We have the return of Leon Vader White.

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Speaker 4: As Frankie Stacchino Senior, so obviously they thoroughly were impressed with him during that last because.

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Speaker 2: And then we have Eliza Coyle as Melanie.

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Speaker 4: She's still appearing on TV, most recently heals, and she is married to actor director Joel Murray, the brother of Bill Murray. And we have Adam Wiley as Robert. He's best known as Zachary on Picket Fences and tons of other things.

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Speaker 1: So no memory of this episode. And like I would, I I know Adam like I've run into him over the years, and I knew him, but I never knew he was on our show. I did not know.

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Speaker 3: I remember Adam was. I think he might have even done more than one.

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Speaker 1: He might.

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Speaker 5: You know him, but I didn't remember that he was on our show. But we're just about the Magic Castle. He was a magician also working at the Magic Castle. He was a very good magician.

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Speaker 1: And then his brother was the host of Grinders in Line.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, no, his.

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Speaker 1: Older brother was right. He was like he was the guy. He was like an actor MC host dude guy. And we I think through Adam we knew him or somehow or maybe just Angel and Vicky we knew him. So he's the his brother, Adam's older brother was the host of Grinders Inline. All these people out there clutching in their vages.

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Speaker 2: Yes, everyone just watched it last night.

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Speaker 3: I still mine, still can't stop, but I still.

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Speaker 4: So let's hop into our recab. Well, I mean, do you guys want to You didn't remember it. I didn't remember it either.

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Speaker 3: I remember it.

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Speaker 2: I fly the first scenes. I enjoyed it too.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I liked watching Ethan, Yeah you know, he's so good, and watching the kind of depth of of what they did with the Frankie character in this episode.

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Speaker 3: I've thoroughly enjoyed it.

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Speaker 4: I really I was a little on the fence about some of that. We'll talk about it as we get to it.

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Speaker 2: But there's like this overall idea that like, Frankie is a Frankie is more than what you know of him to be, and it's your fault you haven't noticed it, And yet I'm like, is it though.

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Speaker 3: He's also a bully. Yeah, he's also a boy.

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Speaker 4: He's he's they've never seen him as anything else.

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Speaker 1: And he we had the love We had the love episode where.

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Speaker 4: The guys have, right, Corey and Sean have. It was more about when Sean gets on his soapbox about you guys, have you even bothered to look past him?

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Speaker 2: Have you ever really looked at him?

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Speaker 4: And you know, the poor Robert characters like yeah, upside down. I'm like, so when he's been holding you upside down?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you're supposed to be like, maybe there's more to this born.

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Speaker 3: It was certainly interesting, but I just I liked watching him.

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Speaker 5: And by the way, and we'll get into this too, another no Rusty episode, get vials again.

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Speaker 1: He must have been busy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he had to have been working on something.

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Speaker 3: He must have.

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Speaker 5: He must have gone out to do something, because it's too many now in season three that he.

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Speaker 3: Hasn't been in.

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Speaker 4: I know, I agree, he must have been doing a feature. Yeah, all right, so let's hop into our recap. We're in Phoene's office. Phoene, sitting at his desk, says, all right, I have enough information, and then we pull out to see Sean and Corey sitting in his office dressed in cheerleader outfits. Corey says, mister Feoenie, we didn't do anything to provoke Frankie and Joey. Phoene then thanks them and tells them they can go.

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Speaker 1: Now. I didn't remember this at all, but we had people come to our live show dressed ere cheerleader outfits and they were like, you know, it's the time, and then I was like, oh right, and I had the memory. But what I have a memory of is a photo that was taken on the set this day and someone has it. I don't know who.

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Speaker 2: I think I have it. I have a holoid of you guys in this.

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Speaker 1: Hour, which I never remembered what that was from. I was like, is that from chick like me? Why were we in?

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Speaker 2: That's what I always thought.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But it's funny because the reason I wouldn't remember this is because we only did it one day. Right. It's a costume gag, so it's.

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Speaker 4: Not really Sphoene's office, so it wasn't filmed in front of the audience.

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Speaker 1: No, so we did we do the hallway too, so we could have Like but it's just funny because like it was obviously like, you know, an hour of my life. It was not like like chick like me. We were in makeup. It's a whole thing.

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Speaker 2: So I remember that week you're talking about it.

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Speaker 1: This is just one, you know, in one hour of our lives in so I totally didn't remember it. It's funny, though. It's a funny gag, so a surprise.

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Speaker 4: Scory asks like this, referring to their outfits. Sean asks, how are we supposed to get home? Phoene tells them to wait until it's dark and then run very quickly. Corey gives him a week's and they walked toward the door. Their heads poke out of the office to check if anyone's around in the hallway. Corey says, everyone's in class. We couldn't have picked a better time, and then it's a non cutting optical flip.

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Speaker 2: They walk into the school hallway and as they exit the office.

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Speaker 4: The bell rings. Cory says, that's bad, and kids start to flood the hallways. Everyone looks at Corey and Sean. People are whistling and owing, and one guy even comes up to Corey to try to touch his butt.

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Speaker 1: That was so weird, bizarre.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought the same thing.

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Speaker 5: I was like, Oh, they really and they obviously told that guy to do that. That's not that's not a choice that that a background actor is going to make.

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Speaker 3: Somebody came up and said, go try Ton't.

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Speaker 1: You took us? Is this John Tracy? Yeah, that's that's on on on character, okay, yep on brand.

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Speaker 4: Eric and Topanga are now in the crowd and Eric says, check out the new competition.

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Speaker 2: Pretty hot. Huh. Tapanga responds, look at them. They must starve themselves.

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Speaker 3: Eric sits together. I know, can you believed together since.

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Speaker 2: The last to Panga.

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Speaker 5: I think I had your face in my hand the last time we actually acted together. And as I watched it last time, I was like, hey, kind of a scene with the two of us, a little bit of a scene.

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Speaker 2: Sure, we don't look at each other, bro ever seen together.

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Speaker 3: That's okay, we know each other.

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Speaker 4: Apparently that's exactly Eric pats Sean's cheek and says, I get nervous around such beauties. Eric and Topanga walk off, and I say, no, wonder I never made the squad.

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Speaker 2: To Panga tried out for the cheerleading squad, I doubt not. It's I don't think so. She's just yeah, it.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't seem jarring to you guys that were just not acknowledging Cordy' to Panga after after that montage, Like I mean that was it was. It was like the like at least a longing looker.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, man, you're just well, I'm telling you there, you're just supporting. This is the problem I had that everybody that you guys were like, no, I'm in now, it's I they You're just supposed to buy it now.

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Speaker 1: I was waiting for the joke. I was waiting for the joke of like this is why we're not dating anymore, or something about like to a just reference and just acknowledge that it's like now we're or we're gonna be okay. But it's like nothing. I was like, oh, maybe it was out of order. But then if it was out of order, then they would have been together.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, gosh's you know what.

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Speaker 4: By the way, it would have seemed more reasonable that they were still together in this episode because we've had other episodes when they were together where they you know, just kind of passed each other and she was just like, oh, sorry, that's happening bye.

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Speaker 2: And then she walks away.

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Speaker 4: That part did bump me as much as I enjoyed the overall episode.

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Speaker 2: I did.

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Speaker 4: Then after this scene, say, wait a minute, wasn't the last time we saw them this montage breakup? And and it was supposed to be hard. So yeah, the the.

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Speaker 2: Non continuity of a sitcom, I know.

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Speaker 5: Also, this is a this is an episode with so they're trying to put everybody in. I mean, Rusty's not there, but you've got Eli, You've got Tony, You've got that whole storyline there, You've got Blake, you are are Ethan, You've got I mean, there's there's a lot going on, uh in this episode with with with with different actors, different characters. I mean, the entire episode, the focus is different characters than we normally do.

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Speaker 3: So that's true. What's so strange?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Sean looks at Corey and tells him those Buns of Steel videos must have paid off.

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Speaker 2: I remember those Buns of Steel videos.

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Speaker 3: They were great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then we're back in Phoene's office.

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Speaker 4: Phoene is thinking Frankie and his father, who is Vader now in his great suit, He's coming down to discuss this matter. Feenie addresses mister Stakino and Frankie and Frankie's father both say yes, I mean.

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Speaker 2: He is just so great.

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Speaker 3: I love this whole scene me too, This whole bit is amazing.

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Speaker 1: I was sitting there going like, why is the blocking so awkward? And I was like to criticize the blocking, and then the reveal of her is like perfect, but was like, why would you possibly stand the actors like that up there right? And I was like, this is really poorly directed. I was like, no, it's perfectly directed. It's just so good.

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Speaker 4: So Phoene clarifies he was talking to Frankie and his father says yes.

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Speaker 2: Again.

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Speaker 4: He tries clarifying he was talking to little Frankie and both of them look at each other and they shrug. Phoene walks over to Frankie Junior, saying he was talking to this lad right here. As he pats Ethan on the shoulder. Phoene asks whose idea was to burn students clothes and make them dress up and cheerleader outfits. Frankie tells him he cannot say. He must protect his friend Joey the Rat. Phoene tells him it's too late, Joey's already been suspended. This meeting is to try and save Frankie from a similar fate. Frankie's father cuts Phenie off and tells him that won't happen to his boy, and then he cuts an excellent promo and explaining that it won't happen again.

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Speaker 1: My boy, he's gonna straighten up and he's gonna fly ride. It's an eleven times heavyweight. Can't read out the world.

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Speaker 2: It's so good, he guarantees, and then he barks over and over again.

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Speaker 4: He guarantees his boy is gonna toe the line and starts barking at Phoene. We actually see Bill's hair, yes, blow in the.

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Speaker 1: Breath a second.

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Speaker 3: I could watch that all day.

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Speaker 1: Him just like shaking his head is like the.

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Speaker 2: Wind, the wind of his blatch.

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Speaker 3: He almost like he almost fumbles his next line.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's why I thought he was gonna But he's not. He's just dealing with the dude in front of him.

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Speaker 4: So good, so good, beautiful. Phoene assures mister Staquino. He appreciates his passion, but he doesn't have to bark. Frankie looks upset as he says, poor Joey, poor me.

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Speaker 2: What will I ever do without my best friend? Phoene tells him.

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Speaker 4: Someone who drags you down is not your best friend. I suggest you find a better crowd, or you'll end up like your friend Joey. Frankie's dad yells at him, telling him to do what Phoene says. Phoene butts in and tells him he doesn't have to yell, and Frankie Junior says he's not yelling as his dad puts his arm around him in smiles. Phoene shakes his father's hand and thanks him for stopping by.

00:21:39
Speaker 2: As Frankie and his dad walk away, we see there's been a woman standing behind Frankie this whole time, completely blocked until this moment.

00:21:48
Speaker 1: She just looks so sad. Yeah, she's just a trod upon woman's her poor life.

00:21:54
Speaker 4: Is just she obviously was a background actor and so probably somebody d d picked, right, I mean yeah.

00:22:02
Speaker 1: Her look on her face is just so.

00:22:04
Speaker 5: Really it's such a good clever joke though, I mean it just you don't need a single word.

00:22:10
Speaker 3: It's just the reveal. Oh missus, Oh my god.

00:22:14
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, And she nods at him and shrugs, are you gonna do just no good.

00:22:18
Speaker 3: Also one thing that it's so funny.

00:22:21
Speaker 5: We've talked about this a little bit, but everybody always comes up to me, especially well I'm sure they do it to you as well, but they come up to us and they say, you're a lot smaller than I thought you're gonna be.

00:22:31
Speaker 3: Like, you're a lot shorter than I thought you're gonna be. You're a lot smaller than I thought you're gonna be.

00:22:35
Speaker 5: The the opposite is also true. When you're a really big person, you look smaller on camera.

00:22:41
Speaker 3: Being next to Leon.

00:22:44
Speaker 8: He was a mountain of a man, and you got that sense in this episode from the size of his suit. Yeah, Like, if you look at that suit he's wearing, you forget how big this guy really was in person.

00:22:58
Speaker 5: I mean he was a mountain of a man. And this actually, when I watched it was like.

00:23:01
Speaker 3: Oh that's right. I forgot how big he was because you see the suit. It's like it's huge, huge man. Such a nice guy too. We always talk about it, what a guy.

00:23:08
Speaker 2: Was, What a man.

00:23:09
Speaker 4: So then we're in the school hallway, Corey and Sean are wearing new John Adams hoodies.

00:23:14
Speaker 2: I love these hoodies. I still have on one, Julia, really I still have that's I wish we had that.

00:23:21
Speaker 1: I want Penbrook. I want a whole Penbrooke outfit.

00:23:23
Speaker 5: And I know, and just make that merch have the one that Ben's wearing, the dark the dark gray one.

00:23:29
Speaker 3: It's I use it to work out.

00:23:30
Speaker 2: Rider's wearing the gray one.

00:23:31
Speaker 3: I think I think gray and dark has whatever the darker one is.

00:23:35
Speaker 2: I think it's green, is it? I think it was green. I don't know, Okay.

00:23:39
Speaker 4: Rider also has a sweater tied around his waist, So he's wearing a hoodie and a sweater tight around his waist.

00:23:44
Speaker 2: He must get very cold. Sean says, well, it sure feels better than those skirts, and Corey says he doesn't know.

00:23:51
Speaker 4: There's something to be said for the freedom they gave. Sean looks at Corey and degrees Yeah you thought that too. They both look at each other quickly and laugh as they say, No, No, maybe you guys just are gonna wear kilts.

00:24:02
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was gonna say, kilt spread around for hundreds of years for a reason.

00:24:05
Speaker 3: There's obviously a comfort to that. My god.

00:24:07
Speaker 1: Absolutely, the insanity of a guy wearing a dress.

00:24:10
Speaker 4: No, you would it Sean says they better get out of there before Frankie comes looking for them, and Frankie has quickly become the boy's main op here. He is just number one. Corey says, there's no need to worry. If he Nee just read him the Riot Act, even Frankie wouldn't be stupid enough to mess with them. After that, Frankie walks up to Sean and Corey and puts his arms around them, saying, Oh, you'd be pained at how stupid I could be, And he pushes them into a classroom. And then we're in the school classroom and Frankie tells Sean and Corey you ratted me out and Joey, and as Joey used to say, live by the rat, Die by.

00:24:40
Speaker 2: The rat, he does a very cute little impression by the ract die bidies so cute.

00:24:46
Speaker 4: Corey asks what that means, and Frankie says, why don't we ask him? Oh wait, we cannot. My one and only friend, Joey has been suspended. I walk alone in this world except for the grilled cheese sandwich in my pocket. Famous quote alert, Isn't that the the quote Ethan told us? People come up and quote to him all the time, and he likes it and he didn't really remember.

00:25:06
Speaker 2: The context of it. I think that's the one people always say to him.

00:25:09
Speaker 1: It's a really funny one.

00:25:10
Speaker 2: It is funny.

00:25:11
Speaker 1: This whole scene, though, kind of bumped me in that it's like a repeat of the other episode where he did this touch in the cafeteria.

00:25:20
Speaker 2: For the post Yeah, for the when he loves somebody.

00:25:22
Speaker 1: Almost down to the lines where I'm like doing the what wo thing? Like almost it's it's the same beat, and which is fine, Like obviously it's a repeating but why why don't we acknowledge it? Like I feel like we act like we've never had any relationship or connection with Frankie. But the truth is, at this point we've had so many interactions. It's like it wouldn't be that hard for us to be like, we know you're a sensitive guy, likes poetry, and we've been a poetry readings with him, Like why are we acting like we have no idea who he is? Besides, you know, it's weird.

00:25:52
Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, that is, You're right that they're they're they kind of I think they when they love something, they want to find a way to read do it with a new spin on it because they loved it and it worked well. So they loved the dynamic of Ethan with the two of you, so they were like, how do we do that? Well, we can't have Ethan go to the boys again and say would you guys be my new friends, because that's kind of what he did he asked for your advice the first time. So in this one, you guys are offering yourselves to him. But we're going to just forget that we know anything about each other. So you know, when you binge a show like we are, we're realizing how many things get regurgitated. Yep, But I think when you're watching it a week at a time, within a long break in the summer, people may not even remember that that ever.

00:26:36
Speaker 1: Even in fact, it's like it's beholden on the writers to declare, like to re re establish who characters are everyone. Yeah, you know what I mean. Like, in other words, if Ethan were if we were too friendly and relaxed with him too early in this episode, there'd be no story, right, So you have to like make it more extreme, which just makes everything more cartoony and less realistic.

00:26:58
Speaker 4: Yes's yeah, yeah, So Frankie raises his fist, asking who dies first, and Corey says, whoa, whoa, Frankie.

00:27:04
Speaker 2: What I'm getting here is that friendship is very important to you. So how about this? You let us live.

00:27:08
Speaker 4: You got two new friends, and just like writer said, he turns to Corey in surprise and says who Corey tells him us.

00:27:14
Speaker 2: Think about it.

00:27:15
Speaker 4: We can hang out, go to movies, ballgames, whatever. Frankie, now interested, asks if they could go to poetry readings, and Corey says, we're there. Sean turns to him and says, I hate poetry. Corey reassured that if their friend this.

00:27:26
Speaker 1: Is like the defining characteristic of Sean within that yet a year, I already wrote poems. Remember, we're like we discovered that that was established earlier. I mean there.

00:27:35
Speaker 5: Was FROs and all that kind I mean, it's like, obviously you've got that kind of poetic soul.

00:27:40
Speaker 1: Why and like like we're surprised that he likes poetry. We've sweeped into a poetry reading with him. I know this was throwing this was throwing Sean under the bus.

00:27:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was throwing Sean under the bus. Just making Sean a bit of a you know, uh dumb dumb a dumb dumb here and the liver joke is really weird. I thought it was very funny that it's I.

00:28:02
Speaker 4: I just like that it's something that couldn't sound anything less like poetry reading. Sean turns to Frankie and says, oh, poetry, How you said liver?

00:28:16
Speaker 2: Cory asks what do you say? Frankie?

00:28:18
Speaker 4: Friends, and he sticks out his hand to shake on it. Frankie asks him if this is a sincere effort and not just a phony move to avoid agonizing pain and suffering. Sean and Corey say it's sincere, absolutely heartfelt. So this is where he says, the agonizing pain and suffering. This is one of those moments where I was like, you want everyone to see you as something more than this bully. But in both of the times, like in this time, he's the only reason they're agreeing to be his friend is because he's threatening to kill agonizing, Yeah, I'm going to beat you, and then they say okay, let's be friends. And then later in the hallway too, he says when you get on, and then he goes, are you doing this just to avoid agonizing pain and suffering? It's like, so you are still you're not actually trying to turn over a new leave.

00:29:02
Speaker 3: No, this is also all right.

00:29:04
Speaker 5: After he helds up his fist and says, which one of you dies first? Right, So it's like, yeah, you're he's a bully.

00:29:10
Speaker 4: I mean, Frankie starts to cheer up and tells them it makes him very happy. He grabs them and pulls them into a hug. Shawn and Corey yell out in pain as Frankie grabs tighter, and Corey says, we never do anything right, and then we're in Turner's apartment the phone rings.

00:29:23
Speaker 1: Well, lay this scene, there's this there was this look in my eyes like like like I'm I'm, I'm like I feel sorry for him, Like there's this really intense it was. It was like, wow, Sean is like pitying and then also kind of like worried that he's it's it's it's it was like and it's almost like Sean is not sure yet if how do I put this? I almost feel like like like Sean is is thinking that he might be joking the whole time, like that Frankie at any point is going to be like no, no, no, I'm really not you of like, and it's it adds like this level of tension. I was like, Oh, that's that's funny. But I also don't know if I was planning it or if I just was actually sitting there, going, what is Ethan gonna do?

00:30:11
Speaker 2: The scene in the classroom, I mean, yeah, in this scene, like.

00:30:13
Speaker 1: If you look at the way I'm looking at him, it's like I am so weirded out, like it's almost like I'm pitying him. But then I'm also like, is this gonna work? Is this gonna And it's so real, Like I was watching I was like, I like, did I not know what Ethan was going to say or do from moment to moment? Like it's it's really intense and it's funny. No, I think something was going on. I think either like Even was, because Even was a very intense actor, Like I feel like he might have been changing up the performance on the night of the show or like been messing with us in some way to get that look out of me because it is intense, and I'm like, that's not me acting. That is me like actually not sure what's going to happen next, or maybe I was just trying not to laugh, which we know good.

00:30:57
Speaker 4: Yes, well, and later in the cafeteria you fully break.

00:31:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I thought it was in Turner's apartment I broke, But whenever.

00:31:05
Speaker 4: I breaks, all the I mean maybe you also broke in Turner's apartment. But with with Joey you fully break and it's great. I'm sorry, not Joey with Ethan, with yeah, with Frankie. As he leaves and says, I have I have to go and have time to reflect, and you just talk through your laughing, and it's it's it's just unbelievable. So we're in Turner's apartment. The phone rings. It's right next to a CD tower. Do you guys remember CD towers?

00:31:32
Speaker 3: Of course? Of course.

00:31:34
Speaker 2: Oh I still have a well that's not surprising.

00:31:37
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I have them all. They're all upstairs. Yes, thank you very much.

00:31:42
Speaker 4: As Turner cooks in the kitchen, Sean and Eli are nearby, sitting on the couch. Eli walks over to the ringing phone and asks Turner, are you going to get that? Turner looks up and says no. Sean responds, you think it's her again. The machine beeps and a woman's voice says hi, it's me again, Sean says, and we have an answer. The voicemail continues and the woman says, John, I'm not saying you're a void me. Maybe you're standing right in front of the phone and doing that thing with your hand covering your mouth. Turner moves his hand immediately, and Ei tells him she always did give him the willies. The voicemail continues, Anyway, I'm in town until Sunday. I just think we owe it to each other to sit down and talk. Everyone's silent, and Sean says, man gets a call. Lots of calls from remember very attractively.

00:32:19
Speaker 5: The only part of the entire episode I remember is writer doing this, writer doing the manner table read or from the show.

00:32:27
Speaker 3: It's great.

00:32:28
Speaker 1: I remember the dude payoff. Remember this episode with Indian. He loved this.

00:32:33
Speaker 3: By I remembered this whole thing, Remember this entire thing.

00:32:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is all very funny, and I love that you call yourself his little buddy Sean.

00:32:41
Speaker 4: He doesn't say a word of it to his little buddy, Sean. Huh interesting. Turner looks at him and says, there's nothing to tell. Sean responds responds with man gets all squirrely. Every time this girl calls makes a guy think man's keeping secrets from him. Turner tells Sean to stop what the whole man thing, and Sean says, man seems.

00:32:55
Speaker 2: A little irritated lately. Turner says, it's no big deal.

00:32:58
Speaker 4: It's a girl he dated a long time ago, and it's own over, and then looking at Sean, he says, don't you dare start the next sentence with man.

00:33:03
Speaker 2: Sean responds with, dude's got a problem with the word many very right.

00:33:10
Speaker 5: Yeah, there were several times in this scene where it was, especially with you writer, you were completely out of focus.

00:33:19
Speaker 3: Really, yes, it was just bizarre. It was like, oh, that's jarring. It was just all it was whoever is doing your coverage?

00:33:27
Speaker 2: Especially right who was on camera X? They were just.

00:33:31
Speaker 3: Really out of focus.

00:33:32
Speaker 1: It was it was weird.

00:33:34
Speaker 2: It was weird. I thought he was I thought Ray was a But do.

00:33:40
Speaker 1: We really remember our camera? I saw them.

00:33:46
Speaker 3: We would know them in a heart, heavy, heavy smoker.

00:33:50
Speaker 4: Brian mackenzie was one of our camera coordinators and he's now my associate director on two different shows I directed. Yeah, he's great. He's a director too. He's fantastic. He was nominated for an Emmy with me last year.

00:34:05
Speaker 2: So yeah, we still see each other all the time.

00:34:09
Speaker 4: So as Turners chopping stops chopping his vegetables, Eli encouraged Turner to share something with Sean, and Turner says, okay, you know those three little words that are very difficult to say to a woman unless you really mean them, And Sean asks, is father home?

00:34:22
Speaker 3: Father is?

00:34:25
Speaker 4: Turner says no, Sean, I love you. Sean smiles at him and says, oh, you're just a little vulnerable right now. Turner says, man needs to take a little walk and he leaves. I love him, turning that on you. Sean, now alone with Eli, asks who this girl is and Eli says, you ever hear of the one that got away? Eli tells Sean she left him, but he thinks John's the one that got away. Sean asks away from what? And Eli says you know everything about John right. Sean laughs and says, are you kidding me? I live with the guy. I'm his little buddy. We have no secrets. Eli says, so you know his parents are real rich and Sean's surprised.

00:34:57
Speaker 2: And says he has parents rich? Is this is brilliant.

00:35:00
Speaker 3: This is a great scene. I see.

00:35:02
Speaker 1: I loved this scene, and I guess it was a bummer to me that that Sean wasn't involved in the rest of the storyline, like I wanted aunt Eli for that matter, like the fact that it just kind of becomes a Turner in a new character of the week. Who's fine, but it's it just like it doesn't really And I also was waiting for the fact that Turner comes from money to affect Sean in some like real way, like right, because that's a really interesting and version of Sean's character, right, Like Seawn comes from nothing and is now in this situation. If Turner came from a lot of money and is in this situation like that, that's so cool. But it doesn't. I mean, besides, there was a couple jokes of Sean you know, Oh, I guess we're just gonna be poor forever whatever, like that's funny. But like, I don't know, like this was such a cool dynamic.

00:35:49
Speaker 2: I want to I know, maybe it does in future episodes. I don't, I don't know.

00:35:54
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it is one of those things, like Will said, there there are a lot of characters in this and a lot of storylines and we have very little time, so I think.

00:36:03
Speaker 1: They just you know, it's one of those things, like the rioting staff, I think would intentionally pull away from our main storylines with the little you know, these sort of like one offs of like let's do a bully storyline, you know, because I had the Harley last season, that whole Harley with his girlfriend episode kind of out of nowhere, and then and and and always. Corey gets completely lost in these situations, right like where is boy break up? Yeah?

00:36:30
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is another one of those standalone episodes though, where if you were to turn on the show and you'd never seen it before, you would have no idea that Ben was the start.

00:36:37
Speaker 3: So it's that's where Yeah, this was one of those.

00:36:43
Speaker 5: And this was also, I mean one of those weeks where you could tell I did the tag and I did that first scene in the hallway, but I think we probably pre shot the tag.

00:36:51
Speaker 3: Maybe I was not.

00:36:55
Speaker 5: I'm sure we did that one scene and I was out, so yeah, I didn't see. Yeah, we were gone by eight fifteen.

00:37:01
Speaker 4: Yeah, so Eli explains all John had to do was stay in the family business, and he would have been set for the rest of his life. Sean, taking a glimpse at their apartment, says, clearly he chose a different route. Eli continues, Yeah, but before he chose this route, he had a girlfriend, Melanie, and Melanie's family grew up in a big, old house too, so everyone figured they'd get married and have rich little kids.

00:37:19
Speaker 2: Sean asks why they are skipping.

00:37:21
Speaker 3: You're you're not going to give any shout out to where he's actually from. I get, I get you know snap about this?

00:37:27
Speaker 5: Is that?

00:37:27
Speaker 3: What I get your snap? I don't know what it is? What is it? What's when?

00:37:30
Speaker 1: You might still be the part of what is the term that I want to say about it?

00:37:36
Speaker 3: But he can't say that.

00:37:37
Speaker 5: About being from Connecticut. We find out Jonathan Turner's from Connecticut, and you're going to blow right past it like most people are driving through Connecticut.

00:37:44
Speaker 3: So it just wow, he's from Connecticut, My.

00:37:47
Speaker 2: Boy from Connecticut. You're right, You're right.

00:37:49
Speaker 3: You should shout out to the Nutmeg state.

00:37:52
Speaker 2: There we go.

00:38:04
Speaker 4: So Sean asks why they didn't, and Eli tells him Jonathan wanted his own life, which caused disagreements between him and Melanie. You understand, Sean questions that he gave up the good life and all that money to be a school teacher and teach kids like him. Eli laughs and asks, so what do you think of your roommate now, And Sean mutters that is one sad, twisted man. And then we're in the Matthew's backyard. Corey and Frankie are walking home and right into the backyard sideyard, Frankie tells Corey he had a wonderful day in school today.

00:38:30
Speaker 2: He thinks he's going to.

00:38:31
Speaker 4: Be like being a regular guy and having regular friends like him. Corey says, that's really great, Frankie, so thanks for walking me home. Frankie says, you're welcome, and he just blindly walks in the door and goes inside the hat and we're in Matthew's kitchen.

00:38:44
Speaker 2: So funny.

00:38:44
Speaker 4: Amy's in the kitchen and Frankie says, hello, missus Matthews. Is it okay if Corey sleeps over at my house this Friday night? And I do think there is nothing cuter than seeing Ethan ask permission in the house for his friend to spend the night.

00:38:59
Speaker 2: There's just something.

00:39:00
Speaker 1: So Ethan was in the house and we were like, whoa Ethan was in the living room? It was such a good deal. It never happened, but it happened.

00:39:06
Speaker 2: It happened, happened a few times.

00:39:08
Speaker 4: Apparently, uh Corey runs up behind Frankie shaking his head and telling his mom to say no. Amy tells Frankie Sure. Corey says he needs to talk to his mom real quick and asks, or what part of this didn't he understand? Didn't she understand? And I guess we're just supposed to assume that Frankie's walked out. We didn't ever go to a master where we could see him walk out into.

00:39:27
Speaker 3: The living room left.

00:39:28
Speaker 4: I think he's supposed to have left, but not seeing it, it was a little jarring to see him just loudly did he go?

00:39:35
Speaker 5: He went to the living room, living room, because then he comes back in with Eric, So I was gonna say, I do I did actually stay here longer than I thought. Oh. And the other thing is we need to start making little check marks by certain jokes, because.

00:39:46
Speaker 3: I think that this what part of this, don't you?

00:39:49
Speaker 5: I think that comes back and I don't know if it's another character that does it, but this was kind of ringing in my ears that this is a reoccurring joke that happens more often on the show.

00:39:59
Speaker 4: We'll see so Amy asks Cory what's going on, and Corey says, it's Frankie.

00:40:03
Speaker 2: Suddenly, the guy's like my new best friend. He's not leaving me alone.

00:40:05
Speaker 4: Amy tells Corey that he may be lonely, he just needs people to hang with. Corey says he doesn't need friends. He's Frankie the enforcer. Amy tells him everybody needs friend needs friends. Deep down inside, He's probably has some good qualities and Corey should try to find them. Corey tells her Frankie's a thug. He scares people. He's made Corey's life miserable ever since his first day at John Adams, and Amy questions that sweet polite boy. She motions behind Corey and we see Eric with his arm around Frankie walking into the kitchen. Eric says, oh, yeah, Corey loves sleepovers, you know. In fact, with Monday being a holiday, why don't you keep him all weekend. Frankie asks if he can do that, and Eric tells him, you wouldn't be a friend if you didn't. Corey, of course, looks panicked as Eric pulls Corey in for a hug and says, right, little bro. So then we're back in Turner's apartment. Sean is walking down the stairs and Turner appears from his room, patting coloone on his neck.

00:40:52
Speaker 3: It's kind of bitwa it is, but this is the start.

00:40:56
Speaker 5: I had two sweaters in this episode, was the first, and so that's how I knew that Sarah mark Witz by this point was also dressing me.

00:41:06
Speaker 4: Right, because I was like, I was so happy with your clothes. You were like, can you get two of these please for me?

00:41:12
Speaker 5: That black sweater with the red stripe, and then in the next scene that green sweater that Ben's wearing with the diamonds.

00:41:18
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had that until the argyle.

00:41:21
Speaker 5: Four months ago, and so insisted I throw it out because it was so had so many holes from moths.

00:41:26
Speaker 3: She's like, this has to go.

00:41:28
Speaker 5: So I would put it on over a white shirt and you would just see my white shirt all the way through it.

00:41:32
Speaker 3: So it's been for twenty some odd years. Yeah. I literally just got rid of that a couple months ago.

00:41:37
Speaker 2: Oh that's so funny.

00:41:39
Speaker 4: Sean says, whoa, You've been doing some heavy cleaning today as he fans the air, but he follows it up with oops, that's your cologne. Turn Her fake laughs and responds with oops, you've got no place to live?

00:41:49
Speaker 2: A little harsh, pretty quick escalations.

00:41:54
Speaker 1: Okay, he and the kid who's been kicked out of every home and abandoned my parents.

00:41:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, make any jokes, kid. Sean asks Turner if he called Melanie and if they're all going to move into a big house in Connecticut.

00:42:06
Speaker 4: Turner realizes he's been talking to Eli. Turner clarifies that's only who she thought I was, Sean. That's not who I am, and Sean asks, why do you think she called you? Turner says, she just wants to find out how he turned out, how unhappy he is, how she made the right choice and he made the wrong one.

00:42:20
Speaker 2: The doorbell buzzes, and Turner says, get.

00:42:21
Speaker 4: Ready, Sean, You're about to meet Melanie Clifton, the richest girl in Westport, Connecticut.

00:42:26
Speaker 2: West real place.

00:42:27
Speaker 3: Westport is a real place, and Westport has lots of money. Yep.

00:42:30
Speaker 4: Okay, So she's going to walk through that door with a big fur coat, jewelry. She's going to take one look around this apartment and criticize my lifestyle.

00:42:37
Speaker 2: Then she's going to go on back and Money door opens.

00:42:46
Speaker 1: She's got a leather jacket off.

00:42:51
Speaker 5: Email surprised he didn't hear the motorcycle roll up outside.

00:43:01
Speaker 1: You know they debated it, you know, they talked about it, and its too much. They too much.

00:43:06
Speaker 7: They Hey, Matthew, Hey, how you doing you doing?

00:43:18
Speaker 3: Read?

00:43:20
Speaker 1: Then? Why does he have a New York accent?

00:43:21
Speaker 5: We'll never find there's just the New York accents for in Philly.

00:43:25
Speaker 1: But he's definitely like he came in with a fake New York accent.

00:43:29
Speaker 5: And it's like, especially when you're from Westport, trust me, if you have any accent, you know, it's like.

00:43:40
Speaker 2: So when Turner opens the door, Melanie appears, She's wearing very normal clothing.

00:43:45
Speaker 4: She says it's been way too long, and Turner is in shock. She even says his apartment is a nice place, reminds her of her own apartment. She she sees Sean and says, Hi, you must be Sean. Sean sticks his hand out to shake hers and says, Hi, you must be Money Melanie, and she smiles, and Turner is still shook.

00:44:02
Speaker 5: I have to say something so he's because he's such a good friend of mine, I think I can I can say this, his reaction when she walks in is the first false beat I've seen from Tony since.

00:44:16
Speaker 2: What do you mean make fake surprise?

00:44:17
Speaker 5: It was the first one where I was like, oh that, like he just it just wasn't on his face. And it's the only time I've seen it in that the so long he's been on the show. The only time I've seen I was like, oh that. There was one quick moment of Tony where I was like, that.

00:44:30
Speaker 3: Wasn't that wasn't perfect. Oh my god, it wasn't ming so so funny.

00:44:34
Speaker 4: It's so not him, you know when I when you see those moments for any of us, it always makes me wonder what the notes were we were getting about about whether or not they wanted a bigger reaction from Tony. You know, it was like, yeah, get bigger, bigger, yeah, because remember remember how every now and then we would get those notes of like I need to I need to see it more, open the door and it should be a whoo, and you're like, it feels very false. But this, for some reason in that week or in that moment, they didn't want any sort of subtlety. So how much of a note he was getting of like and really play up the shop, big, big, big ye.

00:45:15
Speaker 3: I easily could have been that. It was so funny, so funny.

00:45:18
Speaker 4: So then we're in Chubby's. Corey walks in and Sean asks if he's alone. Corey says no, he tried to get away on his bike, but Frankie jog behind him the entire way. Pound for pound, he's the fastest man on earth. Frankie jogs in and thanks Corey for their little workout. He excuses himself to go replenish fluids. Sean says to Corey, the guy invited me to his house for a slumber party, and in a very funny beat, Corey says, oh, you're gonna be there too, Yes, yes, correct.

00:45:41
Speaker 1: Ben's performance in that moment, Oh my god, it's so.

00:45:47
Speaker 2: Yes, you're gonna be there too. Yes, this is the best. I love it.

00:45:52
Speaker 1: And you know Ben loved that joke. You can tell that he was just like, yes, into it, Yes.

00:45:57
Speaker 2: So funny.

00:45:58
Speaker 4: Sean tells him he's not helping. Gory says, my mom told me everyone has good qualities. Sean laughs and says, Frankie doesn't have any good qualities.

00:46:05
Speaker 2: He's a thug.

00:46:05
Speaker 4: Cory says, well, now he's our thug. Let's just find the good. Frankie walks back toward them, and all the kids and Chubbies run away when they see him. Sean asks Cory, how is Frankie good? Wherever he goes? People scatter. A very small boy walks up to Frankie to hand him as burger and says, from your humble servant, turkey, I hope that's not a problem.

00:46:21
Speaker 1: And why are there all these kids? So it was just that gang at the end. So because I was like, we would never have a like under eighteen unless it's like a big thing. And then of course he is a big thing.

00:46:36
Speaker 2: It's a big thing.

00:46:36
Speaker 5: All of a sudden, everyone at Chubby's. It was ten and under night at Chubby's exactly, and why I.

00:46:41
Speaker 1: Didn't understand it. I was like, why isn't this taking place in the cafeteria. It makes a lot more sense. And then of course the next scene or two scenes later, we are in the so they just had to like diversify locations. But it really doesn't make much sense that there's all these kids.

00:46:54
Speaker 4: Just met children everywhere. It looked like it was like take your kid to work week at born.

00:47:00
Speaker 2: So Frankie goes to sit down at the nearest table and everyone gets up and runs away to let him have it.

00:47:05
Speaker 4: Corey admits they bow down to him like he's the king of the school. Sean smiles as he figures it out. He and Corey have found the good. Corey says, let us be sure. Corey yells to everyone in Chubby's if anyone needs me or Sean, We'll be sitting right here with our new best friends.

00:47:18
Speaker 2: Stanky Stankyanky.

00:47:25
Speaker 1: You ever met stanky Stinky? Oh my god, I love that stankyin family. Yeah, you know, don't mess with you.

00:47:38
Speaker 2: Just call me, thank you.

00:47:42
Speaker 1: This is where I was just like, I just you know, it's one thing to not acknowledge that we don't remember that he is this poetry loving, sensitive person, which we've known since the moment we write, but then we don't remember he's a bully?

00:47:56
Speaker 2: What bully? You just don't remember how that helps you?

00:48:01
Speaker 1: Which is like like what we like? I don't know is I was like, what it? No, none of this is all false on such a I don't know. I guess it's cute whatever, fine, who.

00:48:11
Speaker 2: Can no, I know I agree with you.

00:48:13
Speaker 1: It's trying to be heartful, and the fact that at lands somewhere with a message that I do like, which is, don't judge a book by its cover, you know, like people are more than just what they seem to be. It could have been a way to say that and do that without having to go this far, you know, to me, it was just like so forced on our on our character, you know, like our assessment of his character is just okay, yeah, predictable.

00:48:34
Speaker 2: So Sean smiles as he walks over to the table, saying, Frankie, buddy, where you've been all our lives? Frankie shrugs and says around. Does Corey and Sean sit down to join him? And then we are at a new restaurant exterior very fancy, fancy, fancy, Yeah, just like it. Turner admits this is a different look for Melanie. Jeans and a T shirt.

00:48:56
Speaker 4: He asks, if Daddy cut off the credit cards again, little John settle down, just no reason to.

00:49:03
Speaker 2: Come in so hot?

00:49:04
Speaker 3: Well she broke up with him.

00:49:06
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess, Melanie corrects him and says she has her own credit cards now, she started her own little business. Turner says, so you just dressed this way to make me feel comfortable. Melanie says, no, this is what she wears to make herself comfortable. This is what she wears to work. She started her own little bookstore. Turner is shocked as he says, so you don't work for your father anymore? She says no, not for a few years now. John touches his heart like feigning shock again. John settle down.

00:49:32
Speaker 3: We don't know the whole backstory, Danielle.

00:49:34
Speaker 5: This this person could have really hurt him, and now he's in the driver's seat.

00:49:39
Speaker 2: So it's like, I'm sure she did, but.

00:49:42
Speaker 1: This scene is just it's not it's it's just not it.

00:49:46
Speaker 2: It doesn't have it.

00:49:47
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

00:49:48
Speaker 5: The things the thing that bothered me the most was how cheap the wine looked that they ordered.

00:49:52
Speaker 3: I mean it was like.

00:49:53
Speaker 5: It's red drink in the next scene, the.

00:50:00
Speaker 1: Which I was like, oh, the return of the red drink, because I actually had the thought just yesterday I was going, know that I haven't been eating as much on this show, Like I was like, finally Sean stopped eating like seasons.

00:50:10
Speaker 3: Now you get regular meals, right, yeah it's at home, Yeah, at home, you get regular meals with We used to.

00:50:15
Speaker 1: On Girl Meets World. I had the line about when Shawn shows up on Girlmy's World. I had the line like, I don't get a lot of home cooked meals. I remember this and that Sabrina just thought it was the funniest thing in the world. So like that's still something Sabrina and I say to each other. I don't get a lot of It's like the puppy dog home cooked me Anyway, I guess you're right, But yeah, see here I am in this episode. I was drinking the red drink. But no, my problem with this scene is she's a very good actress, so I feel bad because it's not her fault. But this is the most expositional dialogue and like this is like that classic thing of like we don't have enough time, so let's just have characters talk about themselves basically in third person, like yeh, here's the way I feel about my life and what I went through from stage this to this stage and now I found myself and I'm this and now I feel that it's a bone mine.

00:51:00
Speaker 5: It is just to get you to all this scene is is to get you to wait a second. I need to see Frankie for who he isn't because a person is who they are.

00:51:11
Speaker 3: So that's what you're learning.

00:51:13
Speaker 5: Jonathan's learning that she didn't he didn't see her for what's and that's bothted b It's like I got it, but it just was not done well it's not.

00:51:20
Speaker 1: And then the fact that it's that I have the realization of the episode, yes, and then Corey piggybacks onto my realization and the weirdest way. So it's like the thematics and like the character arcs are completely out of wrack and they're not tracking, and so it's a weird like, yeah, I wish that she has just been more of a yeah yeah, but like this scenems like is trying to be heartfelt and trying to develop Turner and it's a bummer that it's just it's telling, not showing, right, that's the writing rule. It's like you show, don't tell, and instead these are characters just telling at each other what their characters are like, which is a trap that I feel Boy Mets World falls into. It's a bummer, you know it is.

00:51:57
Speaker 2: It's it is because we don't have enough time. I wrote at the end of the scene.

00:52:01
Speaker 4: This is a perfect representation of how only TV characters talk never do this, would never This is not a realistic conversation between two people who are seeing each other for the first time.

00:52:12
Speaker 2: In a long time.

00:52:13
Speaker 1: So much backstory, but you have to.

00:52:15
Speaker 4: Get out everything in probably what a two minute scene.

00:52:18
Speaker 3: You have to have meals like this all the time. We still this is still conversation between.

00:52:24
Speaker 4: What are you wearing? Are you just wearing that to make me comfortable?

00:52:26
Speaker 2: You know it's not.

00:52:27
Speaker 1: I have my own life past interactions with each other. Will is that when you first asked me to marry you, I was, and now I've this type of person.

00:52:35
Speaker 5: That's the things these things about Jesus, Like okay, that's how people from Connecticut talk from Westport.

00:52:41
Speaker 2: Yeah. But basically we find out she's no longer a rich kid.

00:52:44
Speaker 4: She went out and found her own life because John went out and found his own life, and that's ultimately why she ended up being upset with him when he went and found his own life.

00:52:51
Speaker 2: She says, So, I guess the reason I called on I wanted.

00:52:54
Speaker 1: Him for a second, like like I like why did and her give up money? Like why not like go into teaching and use money for good? Like why not?

00:53:05
Speaker 3: Like do you know, why do you want.

00:53:07
Speaker 1: To be poor to be a better person? Like both of.

00:53:09
Speaker 4: Them, the idea is that the idea is that his parents cut him off, Yes, because in the family business, because he wouldn't go into the family business.

00:53:19
Speaker 3: Which is what we didn't ever talk about it. Yeah, we don't building.

00:53:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't know.

00:53:23
Speaker 1: What it was kind of important, right, like like if it's something really like what if the family business is great for the world.

00:53:29
Speaker 5: Like, yeah, my guess is it's something it's something that wouldn't be considered altruistic.

00:53:34
Speaker 3: It's it's you know.

00:53:35
Speaker 5: Pharmaceutical capitalist, capitalist, their their venture capitalist, whatever it is.

00:53:39
Speaker 3: And he's like, no, I want to go and help people.

00:53:41
Speaker 5: Well, if you don't mean, miss John, we're cutting you off, and so I don't care. I'm getting on my very expensive motorcycle that you probably bought me anyway and leaving. And I think that's probably what happened. So yeah, I think that's what they were.

00:53:53
Speaker 1: They're eluding to her own bookstore.

00:53:56
Speaker 4: She saw John that she was when he left her and left the life because he wanted his own life. What she realized was that deep down she knew that was now going to force her to do the same thing. And she knew that that was going to be hard, and so but she did it, and now here she is and she's come through the other side of it, and she just now wants.

00:54:16
Speaker 2: Him to think of a leather dish. I mean, they're meant to be guys.

00:54:21
Speaker 3: On it's leather.

00:54:24
Speaker 2: You don't know if you're wealthy. So then Seohn lifts up his wineglasses and says, you still have that beamer And she says, hey, a girl's got to get around, you know, real quickly. Yeah, red drink.

00:54:40
Speaker 3: Hey you still got that? Oh I've got coolie, Yeah.

00:54:43
Speaker 4: Exactly, so yeah, yeah. Then we're in the cafeteria. Corey, Frankie, and Sean are walking into the lunch room. As Cory says, ah, the lunchtime rush, nowhere to sit. Sewan chimes in asking what shall they do? Frankie, everyone at the table runs away, and Corey says, well, look a convenient opening.

00:54:57
Speaker 2: Again. This is where we see these kids are very very young.

00:55:01
Speaker 4: We at one point had forty five year old background actors as in the cafeteria, and now we have nine year olds.

00:55:09
Speaker 3: It's amazing.

00:55:11
Speaker 4: So they sit down at the table and Sean says, yeah, you see that, Frankie, you hang with us. The seat's just open. Frankie says he sees it differently. He's been thinking about their friendships and asks what kind of friends they are. Sean says they're best friends. Corey tells him they value his friendship very much, and then Corey yells out drag cleaning. Frankie questions dry cleaning, and a small boy, the same one who served Frankie as burger at Chubby's, runs up with a freshly pressed sweater and says they got the stain out. Sean thanks him and says he's too kind. He asks what the kid's name is, and the kid says Robert. Sean tells him not anymore. From now on, his name is Dances with Sweaters.

00:55:43
Speaker 1: A funny bit. I thought this funny, So I think what happened in the writing of this episode is like the choice for Frankie, like the voice of Frankie on the page, is that he has no subtext, that he just says expositional dialogue around himself. He has no filter. And that's what's so funny, right, is that he's just like I like poetry. I am also going to beat you up. I walk alone in this world, and it's like that declarative expositional language like voice is very funny. Yeah, it doesn't work with Turner and Melanie right like. But the problem is, I think they got trapped in this idea of like you can have expositional dialogue because somebody like Ethan, you know, Frankie is doing that. But it doesn't work, like and so it's like, in a weird way, the whole episode lost all of its subtext because I think it was built around Frankie's voice. Yeah, because Frankie.

00:56:39
Speaker 3: Is Mango from Blazing Saddles.

00:56:42
Speaker 1: I don't remember playing, so I mean.

00:56:44
Speaker 5: It's you know, it's if you go back and you watch it, that's what that's. I think what it even based the character on is that same kind of thing. And you're right, it works. It's it makes things different when it's driving the story right as opposed to it's just another great character that's there right know when but I see what you're saying.

00:57:01
Speaker 3: It's like, now all the characters are kind of talking like that, which you have.

00:57:07
Speaker 2: So many storylines imagine this, Imagine how long the episode would have to be totally you know, it's so it is. It makes it really difficult.

00:57:16
Speaker 4: But you know, I also would like to point out that I I love that Will is now the Michael Jacobs of this podcast, and he he points out things like, yeah, like Daniel's.

00:57:25
Speaker 2: Red Daniels from Blaze, but.

00:57:35
Speaker 1: You know who actually when you said that was the character from Galaxy?

00:57:40
Speaker 2: Are talking to you again?

00:57:42
Speaker 5: Just what my serious for some reasons popped out of it. I'm sorry, I do not know Daniel's red Lap. Can you please try again?

00:57:53
Speaker 1: Even doesn't know.

00:57:57
Speaker 3: No idea what Daniel I was gonn.

00:58:00
Speaker 1: To say that there's a character, what's the character from Gardens of the Galaxy who takes everything literally drack and just right. It's similar to that, right, and you have like a big guy who just declares his fumings and you know, yeah.

00:58:22
Speaker 2: So Seawan's just told him his new name is of dances with Sweaters, Dances with sweaters, which is what Harley does.

00:58:30
Speaker 5: By the way, the first time Harley meets Corey changes his name to Baboons, So.

00:58:34
Speaker 3: It's you know, Sean.

00:58:38
Speaker 5: Harley of the Trap of like, oh this is now, I got the enforcer next to me.

00:58:43
Speaker 2: Let's see, well, no, that's not your name, changing your nice parallels.

00:58:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, good catch.

00:58:49
Speaker 4: So Robert smiles and shrugs, says he likes it. Frankie shakes his head at Sean and Corey and he stands up to walk away. Corey asks him where he's going, and he says he needs to be alone to reflect, and Sean.

00:58:58
Speaker 2: Says, what's the matter with him?

00:59:00
Speaker 4: While you're just laughing, You're just you're just so desperately trying to hold it back, but it is terrible.

00:59:06
Speaker 2: You're like, what's the matter with whom?

00:59:09
Speaker 4: Just oh my gosh. And Corey throws his arms up in shrugs. And then I think, you guys must have really found the way he was delivering the time to reflect, like he must have been doing it in a way that was really funny to you guys, Because I also I rewatched it a few times when I saw writer breaking, I realized when Ben turns around to ask him, where are you going? Ben is also starting to break, of course, so there was something between the three of you that was very funny, or maybe.

00:59:35
Speaker 1: Just I remember that when I said the line, and the next scene in the in the hallway, I say dances. I remember Ben, and I could not could not get through that. Every time I called him dances he lost it. So the idea of like the two of us being bullied was clearly cracking us up.

00:59:52
Speaker 5: It's also there is nothing as contagious as the giggles on show night. I mean, it would just sweep through you like a blaze, and you just couldn't you.

01:00:02
Speaker 3: Couldn't hold it together. It was some of the.

01:00:05
Speaker 5: Hardest laughing I've ever done in my entire life. Will always be when you're breaking on a set. It's just it's amazing.

01:00:10
Speaker 1: It's all the nervous energy and it's all the excitement. But then it's also the sense of community underneath, you know, like the performance that you're doing, you're like aware of each other as actors and friends. So you're sitting there like if you have any in jokes or anything between the two of you, that's it. And then it's just like you and you have to you know you shouldn't, but you you. Also it's so funny to act.

01:00:31
Speaker 4: Remember I remember there being an added element when you were doing things like a promo, Like remember those holiday promos where we'd all have to stand around behind the house and we'd be like from our family, yours may Christmas, and we'd all have to say it at the same time, and somebody would be like, somebody would have a weird voice or would be a little bit late, and then you start giggling about that. And the added element with that is the fact that deep down this feels so ridiculous, but it's very pressurized because you of you're cramming having to do this additional promo into what would be your normal workday, so now there's less time for everything else, and.

01:01:06
Speaker 2: We have to get this promo, and so deep down your lilts.

01:01:10
Speaker 6: We've got this very serious Merry Christmas message. It's like and now you're just laughing because also like I can't believe we're making such a big deal about this, and like, oh, you're right, we definitely shouldn't be having any fun while we're telling people Marry Christmas, and we should definitely look like we're the hostage lay with it.

01:01:26
Speaker 5: Too, because they, like you said, like everyone you hear Marry Christmas, and then you just hear what Personsthmus like after everybody else, It's like, okay, now you're doing that on purpose.

01:01:34
Speaker 2: It was exactly so much fun. Good times. Sullivan We're in the school hallway.

01:01:38
Speaker 4: Frankie goes up to the bench where students are sitting down. He asks if he can join them. They don't answer, They just run away. Frankie looks discouraged and walks in circles with his head down. And here is where again, I was like, right, but why would you ever expect anything else just because suddenly you like, could I join you? These people are supposed to who are normally terrified of you are supposed to think, Oh, he must mean he.

01:01:58
Speaker 2: Wants to actually hang out with us like a friend. But okay, this.

01:02:02
Speaker 1: Lack of Joey really right? I mean, he misses Joey and that seems to be like what he should be expressed, Oh I miss my friend.

01:02:09
Speaker 5: But it could also be his self realization of Wow, I've done this to myself because I'm a bully.

01:02:16
Speaker 3: No one wants to be with me, No one wants to sit with me. No, that's not what happens at all.

01:02:21
Speaker 4: It's not what happened. People start taking stop taking advantage of me. And I wanted to be like, sir, there's a little bit of owners ownership here you have to.

01:02:30
Speaker 3: Take You've been a bad guy.

01:02:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, you you you shouldn't have children. Yeah. If he said to those kids.

01:02:37
Speaker 4: I really miss my friend, could I sit with you guys, and they still all ran away. I could see him feeling like, no one will give me a chance. But throughout this whole episode, he hasn't been trying to turn over a new leave. He's actually still been a massive bully. So there was a little bit of that element missing. That's what I was getting this episode.

01:02:55
Speaker 5: I don't know, because that's what I was so hoping was gonna happen in the Feene episode Phoene scene, this scene now, because I so wanted to love this scene, and I thought it was going to be Bill being mister Feenie in that. Hey, I'm gonna give you some advice, but you also need to take ownership of who you are and who you've been.

01:03:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can make choices.

01:03:14
Speaker 5: Yes, and some of the choices you've made so far have been terrible. And why do you think people look at you this way? But it wasn't that at all.

01:03:21
Speaker 1: No, it becomes Corey and Shawn's realization.

01:03:23
Speaker 5: Right, and it's we've all everybody's been looking at Frankie the wrong way. Not wait, you've cultivated this reputation of being a bad guy. You need to change who you are and accept that, and none of that happened. So it was a little strange for me. I so is hoping because I love the scene between the two of them as actors, right, I just wish it hit.

01:03:44
Speaker 3: More of what I was hoping.

01:03:45
Speaker 1: Which is funny because the Harley episode, what it did turn on Harley's realization about like the way his romantic life was and he needed to change. So there's precedent for you know, giving the episode to Ethan, you know, and letting his character grow in a way. Yep, Yeah, yeah. I think this episode just it feels off in that it probably should have just been a farce. It probably shouldn't have taken itself so seriously by the end, because that's where I'm kind of like.

01:04:08
Speaker 4: What or they should have just leaned fully into the idea of Frankie saying I am alone in this world. I will forge a new path and lean into him him doing making every a real valiant effort to show other sides of him, and no matter what he shows, people still keep closing doors in his face and him saying, will I ever have a chance to be.

01:04:31
Speaker 5: Someone else trying to change, and now no one wants me to change, and maybe I needed to change that, but none of that was there.

01:04:36
Speaker 2: When will pep, Yeah, like that I could everyone.

01:04:39
Speaker 5: Else's problem because they hadn't seen Frankie in the right light.

01:04:42
Speaker 3: And it's like, no, that's not accurate.

01:04:45
Speaker 4: Well, Feene appears and he asks, lost your way, mister Stakino. Frankie responds metaphorically, speaking, yes, mister Feoene, I found some new friends, as yourself suggested. Phoenie in rejects and says yes, mister Hunter and mister Matthews, well done. Frankie says, I'm not so sure you told me hanging out with a better crowd would make me a better person. Yet here I wander like the Israelites in the days of Yule Brenner. And this is a joe clearly for the young children. You yeah, so.

01:05:09
Speaker 3: Far as to say it's a great Yule Brenner joke.

01:05:11
Speaker 2: Okay.

01:05:12
Speaker 4: Phoenie tells him, you're over my head, mister Sikino, which I loved.

01:05:16
Speaker 2: I love that.

01:05:17
Speaker 4: Bill is like, I'm not following. Uh, Frankie says, I'm still Frankie the enforcer, and Phoenie understands, Ah, so your new friends are not what you'd hope they'd be. He tells Phoenie it's always the same Harley, Joey, Corey, Sean. They just see this big guy who everybody is afraid of, and they use his power for evil. Phoene asks Frankie why he lets them, and Frankie says, I want him to like me.

01:05:36
Speaker 2: Is that so wrong?

01:05:37
Speaker 4: Phoene assures him everyone wants to be liked. Phoene wants Frankie wants to know, even you, mister Phoenie, and Phoene shakes his head yes, but he tells him not to tell the students. It would only create chaos. Frankie asks when his new friends will stop taking advantage of him, and Phoene says, as soon as you stand up to them, let them know how you feel. Phoene tells him that is the test of a real friendship, and Frankie asks what will happen to Corey and if they fail that test?

01:05:59
Speaker 2: And he laughs and says, welcome to my life.

01:06:04
Speaker 4: So then we're back in Turner's apartment. A voicemail from Frankie is playing for sewn on the answering machine from earlier, we hear Sean, this is Frankie Stacchino. I feel that you and Corey and me need to talk if we're really going to be friends, because it occurs to me that you do not know who I really am. Please call me at your earliest convenience. Frankie's dad starts barking and growling in the background, and we hear Frankie say, please, Dad, I'm on the phone.

01:06:25
Speaker 2: I want to know more about that household.

01:06:27
Speaker 3: Yeah.

01:06:28
Speaker 2: So Turner and Eli walked through the door.

01:06:30
Speaker 4: As Eli is clarifying that Melanie is actually apologizing for the way the relationship ended, Turner says, yeah, she did, but I got to tell you, man, we had a great time last night. Sean smiles and asks when they're moving to Connecticut. Turner says they're not. They're staying right here. Sewn says that's probably better. All the money would spoil him. Then he adds, by the way, would a pillow be too much to ask for?

01:06:47
Speaker 3: I thought that was cute.

01:06:50
Speaker 4: Turner tells them she was the most sorry that she knew him as this rich man's kid. She never really knew who he was or tried to know him for real. Eli adds that they spent all that time together and they were never really friends. Turner tells them, when you're young, first impressions are everything. Sometimes you completely miss who someone really is, you know. Sean looks around, realizing that he did that to Frankie, and it looks like this hits you very harsh.

01:07:12
Speaker 1: You got to hit that moment, beggar, No, I want to see it on your face, begar.

01:07:18
Speaker 2: No camera zoom in, jo music swelling.

01:07:23
Speaker 5: It's so yeah, this is just so often really because as I wanted to, as he's punching you in the face, you should realize that.

01:07:30
Speaker 2: The insensitive man likes poetry.

01:07:32
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not seeing you for who you are through the blood in my eyes.

01:07:37
Speaker 4: And then we're in this school hallway. As they meet at the locker, Sean asks Cory what he wants. Cory says he didn't call for this meeting. He got a message that Sean wanted to talk. Seawan is confused. That makes no sense. Then Robert, that little seventh grader dances with sweaters, pops up from behind the trash can and says, makes a lot of sense to me.

01:07:52
Speaker 2: Sean says, dancing dances. Robert says, twas I who called you both?

01:07:57
Speaker 4: We seventh graders aren't going to take it anymore, and no we're giving up our food or doing your errands. Cory asks what about my dry cleaning and Robert Yell's finished. Sean responds, yeah you and what army and Robert snaps his fingers and all the seventh graders.

01:08:08
Speaker 1: Walking attention to the background. For the rest of the previous five scenes. They might have had an idea of what's about to happen.

01:08:16
Speaker 2: They were coming. They come out of the lockers around and.

01:08:20
Speaker 1: The exact number that you are allowed to have with one studio teacher right right.

01:08:25
Speaker 4: So probably I was going to say I was to say eighteen, but maybe maybe it was only twelve.

01:08:30
Speaker 2: Corey laughs and says, we're kidding.

01:08:31
Speaker 4: We love you guys. Robert questions changing your tune tune changers. Corey tells Robert, we can work this out. Robert responds, not so tough without your enforcer.

01:08:39
Speaker 2: Boys.

01:08:40
Speaker 1: Frank Weird thought that this is the size we were in first season.

01:08:44
Speaker 5: So I thought that the entire time, and then I thought maybe they specific I mean, Adam was a small kid. And it still was kind of grew up to us be a small man. So maybe they specifically cast you know, even smaller.

01:08:57
Speaker 1: But I know it definitely like you know, like we talked about, I was already pretty tall. But yeah, it's it's just like we look like.

01:09:06
Speaker 4: Well, it'd be no, he looks like it would be interesting to know how old Adam was, how much younger Adam is than you.

01:09:12
Speaker 3: Because Adam was thirty two when he shot that.

01:09:16
Speaker 2: I would not be surprised if he was.

01:09:19
Speaker 4: But yeah, but I wouldn't be surprised if these kids are like ten and not twelve.

01:09:25
Speaker 3: Okay, maybe, but again that's he was like sixty thirty nine.

01:09:29
Speaker 1: Now, don't we sold them six three?

01:09:31
Speaker 2: How old are you?

01:09:31
Speaker 3: Right?

01:09:32
Speaker 1: Forty three?

01:09:33
Speaker 2: Forty three? He's thirty nine, so he is four years younger than you.

01:09:35
Speaker 1: So if you were, he's twelve, I was sixteen.

01:09:38
Speaker 2: You were sixteen, Okay, so he was you were.

01:09:40
Speaker 3: You were sixteen already in season three.

01:09:42
Speaker 1: No, we're ninety five, right, the end of ninety five is when this episode aired, So I turned sixteen.

01:09:51
Speaker 2: Were nineteenth? Ninety six is when it aired, So yeah, of end of ninety five.

01:09:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're sixteen so I was I turned sixteen. I turned sixteen that December.

01:10:02
Speaker 3: December eleven eleven.

01:10:03
Speaker 2: Don't forget to say the Magical.

01:10:05
Speaker 1: Run even repeated again eleventh eleven eleventh.

01:10:22
Speaker 4: Frankie walks into the hallway and Corey eels Frankie. Robert turns to see him and screams to all the seventh graders run. They start to run away when Sean yells, wait, what are you running from? Robert says Frankie the Enforcer. Sean corrects him, saying that's only what you think of him as.

01:10:37
Speaker 2: No, that's not true. He is really Frankie the.

01:10:41
Speaker 4: Enforcer, yell at the television. Corey asks Sean what he's doing. Sean has something to say. Sean asks, I mean, have any of you really looked at Frankie Stacchino. Robert scoffs and says yeah, upside down. Sean says, no, I mean really looked at him. I bet nobody here knows that this man has a very poetic soul. Corey smiles and says, yeah, you know he does. And now and then of a sudden, he just gets it.

01:11:01
Speaker 1: Why does Corey have this transition? It's and then he takes over the speech speechifying, and I was like, no, this is Sean's moment. Sean is the only one that this makes any sense that he would have this kind of leap, And I can see Corey just being like but then Corey like immediately gets it, immediately understands Turner's speech that he wasn't there for right, And but.

01:11:20
Speaker 4: It's because it's it's even weirder because it's almost like he goes, oh, yeah, I remember that episode from season two where we hung out with him exactly like we're hanging out with him this week and learn the lesson that he is multifaceted.

01:11:33
Speaker 5: Yes, I think you're supposed to remember that. He kind of got the same speech from his mom, which is you're not looking at him the right way, You're not seeing enough.

01:11:44
Speaker 3: I mean tried to try the kitchen, but it was like twenty pages ago.

01:11:48
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think the problem is that it's yeah, it's it's not connected enough. So that's that's the point is that Corey and Seawan each independently get advice from their parental figures, right, which then pays off he and Frankie gets his advice from Feeney to then test us.

01:12:05
Speaker 4: And test you by Then what he says next is all that stuff you said, did you mean it? Or once again, were you just trying to avoid an indescribable pain? So he says it while also threatening you still, so I'm not really sure how it was too much of a of him standing up to you to say, listen, I no longer want to be that person.

01:12:24
Speaker 2: Stop trying to force me.

01:12:25
Speaker 1: To be it.

01:12:26
Speaker 4: No, Sean asks, what do you think? Frankie looks at Corey and then back at Shawn. He smiles, I think I want to grab a burger with my two new friends. And then Corey says that sounds good to me. Frankie brings them both in for a hug, and they all start walking together. Cory says, yeah, we can get to know each other. No punchline, just sweet little no button no button. Walking out Roll really feels like, well, the three of these guys are now going to be inseparable friends.

01:12:54
Speaker 2: They're like starting a new thing. So then we're in the Matthew's kitchen.

01:12:57
Speaker 4: Sean and Frankie are sitting at the table as Corey comes over with what looks like Midnight Pie's.

01:13:02
Speaker 2: The first thing I.

01:13:03
Speaker 4: Thought of was midnight pie in the afternoon. He says, you know, Frankie, We're lucky to have a friend like you. Frankie smiles and says right back at you. Sean says he can't wait to watch Frankie's dad tonight. He asks what time the matches, and then Frankie's dad walks in in is full WWE wrestling costume, yelling Vader time starts barking. Frankie looks at him and says, Pa, Paul, you don't have to be in character all the time. His dad says, sorry, son, I just get so worked up when I'm defending my belt and no one, I mean no one's gonna take it from me, and that includes you, little man, and he yells and points at Corey. He says to a terrified Corey, try it, go ahead, try it. Corey says it's too much metal for me. Really, I'd never make it through airport security. I'm sorry, and he runs away in fear. Amy comes down the stairs who's barking in the kitchen. Frankie's dad walks up to her and says, I.

01:13:46
Speaker 2: Am little lady. You got a problem with Vader.

01:13:48
Speaker 4: Bring it on, and I love what happens next, She looks at him and pushes back, Oh, knock it off, Francis, you know you don't act this way at the PTA meetings.

01:13:57
Speaker 2: So cute.

01:13:58
Speaker 1: Andy lost it at that point. I think that like the confrontation between this crazy big guy and then the mom he was. He loved that she like you know.

01:14:11
Speaker 2: Him, and I thought that was so funny. It's so so funny. And I love that it isn't like you know not.

01:14:17
Speaker 4: I love that she didn't meet him by doing the same thing back and that that that's the big laugh that I can do it too.

01:14:22
Speaker 2: And I love also that she's like, I know the real you.

01:14:26
Speaker 4: I see you at PTA meetings, which I also love imagining him at PTA.

01:14:30
Speaker 2: Meetings school and what's going on?

01:14:33
Speaker 1: I just could be a tag to the tag. It would be a PTA.

01:14:36
Speaker 2: Meeting correctly, great, right, you're right? And he francis sitting.

01:14:39
Speaker 1: There with like little classes going okay, so who's next on the agenda?

01:14:43
Speaker 3: What's uh?

01:14:46
Speaker 2: So?

01:14:47
Speaker 4: Eric walks into the kitchen and says, so, Frankie, word around the halls is you've gone softy and not seeing the giants.

01:14:54
Speaker 1: That's what this is one of those so between yeah, Cory doing this, like, what a part of this? Do you not spin like this? I was like, oh, we need some visual, some eyelines work.

01:15:04
Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't quite make sense. I always like to think Eric is laser focused. He's known for us focused.

01:15:13
Speaker 4: Corey tells Eric to leave him alone, and Eric says, after all he's done to me over the years, give me.

01:15:17
Speaker 2: One good reason.

01:15:17
Speaker 4: Frankie's dad grabs Eric and says, I'm going to give you three as he chokes Eric and lifts his body up over his head to sling him around his shoulder.

01:15:26
Speaker 2: Eric yells, somebody get him a bone.

01:15:28
Speaker 4: And I could totally see in one of the close ups Vader how he was all oiled up yep, And I thought of you telling us that story.

01:15:34
Speaker 5: About how he's all he's always oiled click, yep guy.

01:15:38
Speaker 1: And he always smells like gold bondpowder.

01:15:40
Speaker 3: He did gold bond powder, slick guy.

01:15:42
Speaker 5: And he by that point he told me, I mean his shoulders were shot, so he's like, before we would do any of the things, he's sitting with the rubber bands, like warming up even just to pick me up. I mean, this poor man was his body was broken by this point, but even that was tough.

01:15:55
Speaker 3: But yeah it was. He did it. He did it every time.

01:15:58
Speaker 4: Well that's the end of our episode. That's really where I noticed too. No Rusty again. Not a single moment of Alan Matthews. He's just gone.

01:16:06
Speaker 3: Maybe it's not finals.

01:16:07
Speaker 1: Maybe he's off on a fishing trip for months at a time.

01:16:12
Speaker 5: Yeah, Morgan are traveling Europe.

01:16:17
Speaker 3: Situation, grocer's convention. That's what yerks. Bring your daughter to work month.

01:16:27
Speaker 4: Well, thank you for joining us for this episode of Pod Meets World. Join us for our next episode, which will be season three episode fourteen, A Kiss Is More Than a Kiss. It originally aired January twenty sixth, nineteen ninety six. As always, you can follow us on Instagram pod Meets World Show. You can send us your emails pod meets World Show at gmail dot com and we have.

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