Hour 3 - Reggie Miller

The Dan Patrick Show

Dan looks at Aaron Rodgers' legacy and debates if Rodgers can truly go out with this sort of performance. Basketball Hall of Famer Reggie Miller praises James Harden for moving to 9th on the all-time NBA scoring list,and sees Spurs-Thunder trending towards a real rivalry. 

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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Final Hour in this Tuesday Dan and the Dan Huts Dan Patrick Show, Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock, thank you downloading the app. Also are radio affiliates over four hundred cities that carry this award nominated program. Paulie is out for the final hour under the weather. Dylan to the rescue out of the back room and he'll be in Pauli's chair. If you're not able to watch on Peacock, if you hear the voice that's thank you, Dylan, thank you, or it could be seton doing his impersonation of Dylan. I mean it's kind of tough to tell.

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Speaker 3: Really.

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Speaker 2: Fritzy has his Houston Astros bright orange.

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Speaker 4: Yeah for Cuetown, for you town. They had a nice win against the Steelers. Not a Texans fan, certainly not in the conference of the team that I like. But I'll give a little up to a cut town.

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Speaker 2: And why are you wearing sweatbands?

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Speaker 5: I just hadn't.

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Speaker 4: I would put on the jersey and it felt like I had navy blue wrist bands around.

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Speaker 5: So I'm like a match. So I'm like, let me be a little kid.

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Speaker 4: You know, I like to dress up like a little seven year old, so I put the wristbands because they matched my hat in my jersey nicely.

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Speaker 2: Todd is here, Seaton's here, Marv and Dylan and yours truly. Reggie Miller will stop by it about twenty minutes from now. Phone calls always welcome. Dylan is not in the back helping out Tyler. Tyler will have to do it himself. He'll answer your phone calls. Eight seven seven to three DP Show stat of the Day brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the Dan Patrick Show Seaton Poll question for the final hour of the.

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Speaker 6: Program, we got up there right now, has Aaron Rodgers played his last game? Eighty two percent of the audience say yes, And has Mike Tomlin coached his last game with the Steelers right now?

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Speaker 2: That is at fifty three percent.

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Speaker 7: No.

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Speaker 6: That one keeps going back and forth. There's about a what do they call that? A five point margin? Five point swinging like that. Yeah, I'm going to.

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Speaker 2: Take Troy Aikman's eyes on Aaron Rodgers' future because he said he thought that Aaron had played or is playing his last game. So from one one quarterback to another quarterback. I'm going to go with uh Troy Aikman's assessment of Aaron Rodgers that I think he's played his last game, because if you come back to Pittsburgh, you're going to be maybe an average or better better than average team. I don't think any seismic shift is going to happen with that team. Can you come back? Do you want to come back? You know, if you do, and they want to have you, great good content for me. But Mike Tomlin is different. You know, maybe Mike sees that he's taken this team and he did. I thought they overachieved this year. Maybe he's taken them as far as he can and maybe he needs a break. Maybe, you know, spend a year or two in TV, and maybe it'll be like Bill Kauer where he's fifty years of age. I think Mike Tomlin is fifty three. And you might say, I like this, like I got my legacy, I'll be a Hall of Fame coach, and now I could spend ten fifteen years doing TV. And oh, by the way, Matt Ryan's not there on the NFL today, and there's a seat right there. And if you could put Mike Tomlin in there with Bill Cower. All right, we got something going on here. Yes, Barvin, do you.

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Speaker 5: Think Toma would be more likely to stay if it was a deeper quarterback class in this year's draft, because.

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Speaker 2: You don't even know what you're getting out of a rookie quarterback. I think if he had see I don't know, and I don't know Mike Tomlin. So I mean, if he had someone like Jackson Dart, more than likely to come back to a situation like that, I guess, but I don't know. I just bet Pittsburgh is not threatening. Defense played well, kept you in the game, and the Texans played about as bad as you could on offense. And that final score is deceptive because you had the too late touchdowns in the fourth quarter. But yeah, with Aaron Rodgers and you know, people will say, well, he can't go out this way, Yes you can. You can't check Dan Marino's last game against the Jacksonville Jaguars. He lost I think sixty two to seven. Don't check his last Yes, you can go out this way. It's okay to go out this way. You're going to come back for an entire season to try to prove that that was a fluke. What happened this past year. Same thing with Travis Kelcey. Hey can't go out this way. It might not be better next year for that kind of commitment. And those are two guys that can go into the media right away. And even Mike Tomlin, you know, I think Aaron Rodgers will do something like that. I don't see him doing studio or doing games, but I could see him being a part of a podcast network and making a lot of money. But for Mike Tomlin, you're fifty three. You know, sometimes you need to step away to realize what you want to go back to, and then you might find that you don't want to go back to that.

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Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, I mean Aaron Rodgers seems to be putting off a whole nother if he wants it, a whole second career, not involving that traditional, you know, play by play color guy kind of thing. Yeah, it seems like he has the opportunity to do a ton of things.

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Speaker 8: Yes, Dylan, he could become like a wellness salesman on Instagram or something. I feel like he's sort of trending in that direction.

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Speaker 2: Well, he could host a podcast and do that sell supplements you know, he could do all of that, get his opinions out there, have guests on that he wants to have on. I could see him doing that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that's the thing, right. He's made more than enough money to never do anything ever again. If he wants, he could go surfing for the rest of his life whatever. But he does see like a dude who has opinions and likes to get them out there. And I think he could command an immediate following if he wanted to install all kinds of stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Todd, I want to know what.

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Speaker 4: Everyone said to Rogers, you know, when they all came over to him, just like they did with Kelsey, If this is your last.

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Speaker 7: Game, no, ye, have a great career. Congratulation.

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Speaker 4: You'd be hearing that like a thousand times as all the players on the other team and the coaches. Everybody wants to give him that last hug.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you come over and you assume that's his last game.

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Speaker 4: A lot a lot of guys went over to him, but it seemed like it was some of them were more extended. It was a little more than just a week eleven game where it was like this could be this guy's last game. Ever, I feel a need to go put my arm around him and say, a great career if this is your last game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but even then, I wouldn't I wouldn't be so bold to think that was his last game, like walk up and say, hey, man, if this is it, a great career, because it feels like Rogers would be bothered by that that Aaron would be like, wait a minute, who said I'm retiring.

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Speaker 4: That's supposed to be a nice suggestion because this could be his last time.

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Speaker 7: On the field.

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Speaker 4: Ever, you'd like to be one of the guys on the opposing team to say something nice to him if you have, well, you have that opportunity right there to go over across the field to say.

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Speaker 2: But what would you say to him? Okay, I'm Aaron Rodgers. Game's over. You played for the Texans, and you walk over and you know you're Danielle Hunter. What are you saying? Ay man, you're a CJ.

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Speaker 5: Stroud.

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Speaker 4: Amen, I don't know what your future plans are. I just wanted to say I've looked up to your awesome career. Whether you you know, I'd say something along the lines of, I don't know what you're doing what your plans are next year. But I just want to say, well, I have the opportunity in person, you know, amazing career. I don't like that just to say that, just I just it's an opportunity that I feel like I would definitely want to come over to and say something like that.

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Speaker 2: Well, you are full of minimum kindness. So that's very nice gesture on your part after.

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Speaker 4: Everything he accomplished, and you happen to be the team playing against him and what could be his last game. Ever, I think it's warranted. Even if he doesn't really know me that well and I don't have a particular relationship with the guy, I'd go over there for a second.

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Speaker 2: Michael and fort Wayne, Good morning, Michael. What's on your mind today?

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Speaker 3: Hey Dan, thanks for taking my call. Quick question for you. Who's more sick to their stomach this morning?

00:08:07
Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin or Paulie. I say Paulie. I'd say Paulie. He's not doing well, but thank you for the phone call. Yeah, I don't know how Mike Tomlin feels. I mean, he may feel like, Okay, we got to the playoffs, Yes we lost again. This isn't going to go over well. Locally nationally, You're probably going to have a little bit more sentiment to just like I said, you know, maybe they overachieved this year and he's going to have options. But that would be an interesting meeting between front office and Mike Tomlin of what do you say? Who says it first? Hey, I want to come back? Hey, we want you back? Because right now, you know, this audience is probably the same thing where I am. It's like, I don't know, it's like fifty to fifty of does he want to come back? If he wants to, it seems like he's got a job. Aaron Rodgers was not pleased when he was asked about this. They it starts with a reporter question, but it's asking about uh, oh, well that's is that for Aaron's future? The one with Mike Tomlin on the hot seat? That doesn't start with the question, does it? Mark? Okay, here's Aaron Rodgers after the game.

00:09:24
Speaker 9: I mean this, this league has changed a lot in my twenty one years. You know, when you hear conversation about the the Mike Tomlins of the world, Matt Lafleor's of the world, those just two that kind of have played for and when I first got in the league, they wouldn't be conversation about whether those guys were on the hot seat, you know. But the way that the league has covered now and the way that there's snap decisions and validity given to the you know, the Twitter experts and all the experts on TV now you make it seem like they know what the hell they're talking about. To me, that's an absolute joke.

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Speaker 2: Well, Aaron was involved in the Mike McCarthy situation, a coach who was on the hot seat and then got fired. Yes, Marvin, but.

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Speaker 5: Air's talking like this hot this hot seat thing is new, you know, like it's always been a thing. Coaches get fired, Yes, after winning Super Bowls?

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Speaker 2: Might I add, yes, there are some great coaches who have been fired. I mean Pete Carroll got fired after one year with the Raiders. Are we quick to pull the trigger? We are? Are we quick to change quarterbacks? We are? That's but that's on the front office. That has nothing to do with people who were on Twitter or insiders or any of that. That's the front office. So blame them. They're the ones that make these decisions. It's not like somebody is listening to the show going what did Dan Patrick say today? He said that they should keep Mike Tomlin. Well, then we'll keep him.

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Speaker 5: Yes, Marvin, this is always been the case in the NFL. Marti Setanheimer didn't go like fourteen and two with the Chargers and then he got fired right after. Yeah, like oh in this era. No, no, no, in the NFL period, because it's always been this way. This is a production business.

00:11:13
Speaker 2: Aaron taking a sean at the media.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Todd, perhaps I'm biased because I'm too close to the situation, but I bet there's at least one owner andre GM that finds out that somebody Dan Patrick said might make them decide whether to keep a fire or coach.

00:11:24
Speaker 5: No, I'm just gonna put it out.

00:11:25
Speaker 2: Thank you, Todd.

00:11:26
Speaker 5: If they're on the fence, your opinion could.

00:11:27
Speaker 2: Mount, Thank you, Todd. Let me see David Oregon, Hi, Dave, what's on your mind today?

00:11:35
Speaker 3: Hey Dan? Thanks for calling me back. Yep. I'm following up on christ and Syracuse's call about Harbaugh and Tomlins swapping teams. And there's only one comp in the history of sports that's appropriate. Would you like to guess what it is? Or should I just tell you?

00:11:52
Speaker 2: You should tell me.

00:11:55
Speaker 3: In nineteen seventy three, New York Yankees pitchers Fritz Peter and Mike Keckicch famously traded families, swapping wives, children, and even dogs in a shopping life swap in involved moving houses and becoming involved with each other's spouses after becoming close friends and attending parties together.

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Speaker 2: Yep, they I thought they were going to make a movie. I've talked to Matt Damon about this that I thought that Matt and Ben Affleck were going to make a movie about Fritz Peterson and Mike Keckage teammates swapping families. Yes, tod I heard they're doing a.

00:12:33
Speaker 4: Creepy for creepy on that I don't know where. Yes, band's got something that that works.

00:12:38
Speaker 2: See I know.

00:12:40
Speaker 5: But what I thought that was clever creepy.

00:12:42
Speaker 2: That's the problem. You thought it was clever.

00:12:44
Speaker 5: Don't you find that beyond bizarre? I can't even say it. That's how bizarre and creepy it is that you can exchange families.

00:12:51
Speaker 2: Okay, the dogs Paul is not here. Let's not take advantage of that.

00:12:56
Speaker 5: Okay, they would have turned his head and gave me some kind of luck.

00:12:58
Speaker 2: See what have Lee did that?

00:13:02
Speaker 5: Need to be said out loud.

00:13:04
Speaker 2: Mike and Wisconsin. Hey Mike, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 7: Hey?

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Speaker 10: Well fellas, So I agree with what you said, Dan about not all coordinators being head coaches, but I think also not all head coaches want to become head coaches should be coordinators. So like Matt Lafleur, he's the play caller for the Packers.

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Speaker 3: It seemed like every time.

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Speaker 10: They had a lead, they were the offense with Stall. And maybe it's a coincidence, but he was on the sideline with the Falcons for twenty eighty three.

00:13:34
Speaker 2: So wow, thank you Mike too soon? Uh? Drew and Nashville, Hi, Drew? Yeah?

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Speaker 11: Hey Dan, Hey love me some Dirry bar and I did in the seat there and Marvin five eleven two spins?

00:13:53
Speaker 3: Hey quickly, Dan, Hey, we know that you're a jumper's.

00:13:56
Speaker 11: Wet, but do you have any advice I can impart to my son slighting into base you being that baseball player that you are.

00:14:04
Speaker 2: Don't go head first. Don't go head first. That's what I would say the long story baseball career. The older I get, the better I was. Let me take a break. We're gonna talk to Regg Miller. He'll join us next here on The Dan Patrick Show.

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00:15:38
Speaker 12: And they play one more time after this February fourth in San Antonio, and I'm here for it. Look, I know they've played well three games over the last two to three weeks, but it has been much watch TV between these two and if you are listening to both sides, they like to kind of downplay and say, look, it's not a rivalry, because I agree with them. A rivalry really starts in the playoffs, like they have to face one another in the playoffs and then continue to play multiple times. But it feels like it's a playoff type series because they've gone against each other three times over the last two and a half weeks, with the Spurs winning all three.

00:16:25
Speaker 7: So tonight, again, I think.

00:16:29
Speaker 12: Even though they're the champs, this means more to OKC and they've had the best record all season. They got off to the unbelievable start twenty four and one, but since then, since the Spurs, they haven't played championship like basketball, So tonight is, to me, in my opinion, a bigger game for the champs because they kind of want to send a message.

00:16:54
Speaker 2: It's probably an obvious answer, but I'll ask it just to get you on record. If you were buying these two star san Antonio or OKC, which one.

00:17:06
Speaker 12: I'm still going with OKAC because they're approven commodity. I've seen what they've done under duress. I've seen what they've done over a long stretch. I've seen what they've done in game sevens, both against Denver and my beloved Pacers. So I think there's more of a track record with the Thunder. As much as I love what the Spurs have done, it's unproven.

00:17:31
Speaker 7: In case in point, just.

00:17:32
Speaker 12: Their last time out on the road in Minnesota. You're up eighteen plus, you're up thirteen with about three to four minutes ago, and you lose the ballgame.

00:17:42
Speaker 7: Those are games that you have to win, you should win.

00:17:46
Speaker 12: You're the second best team in the Western Conference behind these Thunder.

00:17:51
Speaker 7: You've got to win games like that.

00:17:53
Speaker 12: So if you want to be taken serious, you can't let up on the gas, and you got to finish games like that.

00:18:00
Speaker 2: The Lakers put a patch on their jerseys commemorating Lebron's twenty third season.

00:18:06
Speaker 7: Why, I have no idea. That's odd.

00:18:12
Speaker 12: I mean, maybe it's a pat on the back, or maybe they're signifying.

00:18:19
Speaker 7: This is it? King?

00:18:21
Speaker 2: Do you think it is?

00:18:22
Speaker 7: I don't think so.

00:18:25
Speaker 12: I don't the way he plays again, he's not the same Lebron that we've seen four years ago, eight years ago, ten years ago.

00:18:33
Speaker 7: I get that.

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Speaker 12: But he is still a top thirty player perhaps, and he can still help your team win. He's just not the unquestioned number one or maybe number two on that team if Austin Reeves is healthy. But I mean, that's a nice paddle on the back by the Lakers to put a patch on their jersey.

00:19:00
Speaker 2: I know what they put it on the back, then it'll be a patch on the back. Okay, Todd, are you kidding me?

00:19:08
Speaker 5: I like that a lot. I was quietly got it in my head.

00:19:11
Speaker 2: That was very clever, Reggie patch on the back. Yeah, it was just kind of like, Okay, we're commemorating twenty three years. But does he want to continue to play this way? Like we always talk about do you want to go out a certain way like Aaron Rodgers last night or Travis Kelsey? How does Lebron want to go out look.

00:19:34
Speaker 12: I will say it like this, The greatest last game that I ever saw was Kobe Bryant's when he dropped.

00:19:42
Speaker 7: I believe it was sixty one versus the Utah Jazz. That was the best closing game I may have ever seen.

00:19:49
Speaker 12: And every aging superstar wants to have a go out game like that.

00:19:55
Speaker 7: Not that's saying that this is Lebron's last season.

00:19:59
Speaker 12: But I think he wants to have an opportunity, a shot at competing at one more championship.

00:20:07
Speaker 7: Is this Lakers team built for that time? Will tell us that.

00:20:13
Speaker 12: I think defensively they're not just they're not quite there yet, And I think Lebron just wants another shot, another opportunity to play for that ring. But the way they're built is going to be very difficult in the Western Confine.

00:20:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the Lakers are terrible defensively. You called out Luca. If your best player can't play or doesn't want to play defense, that doesn't bode well.

00:20:37
Speaker 12: But I just can't he has what he does off the court is almost as big as what he does on the court, and he has so many connections to.

00:20:45
Speaker 7: The Hollywood Arena.

00:20:48
Speaker 12: I just can't see him leaving the Lakers, unless unless maybe one of his old teams come calling, like the Cavaliers and saying, look, we have all this talent here, we just don't have a guy that knows how to assemble the locker room and get these guys to play the right way. Could I see Lebron going home to Cleveland with Donovan Mitchell with Evan I don't know, possibly, but that wouldn't be a bad team to go back and try to win another championship with.

00:21:25
Speaker 2: Can you see Lebron once the NBA does expansion and if they put a team in Vegas, if you're the commissioner, you kind of lean towards Lebron and an investment group that that you would want to keep him in the NBA.

00:21:45
Speaker 12: I think so why not? And especially because he wants to be a part of it. I mean we kind of saw that with Jordan in Charlotte right at one point he was like half co owner there and then eventually bought out. I believe it was Bob Johnson was at the RV bought out mister Johnson to be the controlling interest of the Bobcats, Hornets, whatever you want to call them. I think the same could be said for Lebron to have Lebron in his knowledge. Think about this twenty three years. I mean, he's seen everything and how the game has changed. Why wouldn't you want to have his fingerprints on a team and building a team, bringing, you know, especially to Vegas. Yeah, absolutely, if I'm the commissioner. But again, there'll be a lot of bidders for that. The way that these worst teams and what they're going for, there'll be a lot of bitters. But I would love to have Lebron James still a part of this game after he retires.

00:22:47
Speaker 2: Talking to Reggie Miller, the Hall of Famer, He's got the Spurs and ok C tonight at eight eastern on NBC and Peacock James Harden is now the ninth leading score in the history of the NBA.

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Speaker 9: Wow.

00:23:01
Speaker 2: But I don't know how we're going to remember him. And what I brought up is he did change the game with the step back jumper that everybody said he's traveling, and now everybody does it and it's apparently not traveling. What should go?

00:23:24
Speaker 7: They just get away with it?

00:23:25
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, the commissioner told me that it was not traveling, So I was taking, just like they're not carrying the basketball either. But I'm going to remember James Harden probably more for the step back jumper than I am anything else, And I don't know if I'm being fair to.

00:23:47
Speaker 7: Look, that's a ton of points.

00:23:50
Speaker 12: Congratulations if you're if you are in the top ten, if you were in the top twenty five of scoring in the NBA, that's an unbelievable and hell of a career. But top ten, we are talking about rooms and levels that only certain people get to.

00:24:08
Speaker 7: And you've got to have number one a game to get you there.

00:24:12
Speaker 12: But you've got to be healthy, and you've got to have luck to get you there, and you've got to be on successful teams where you were the man where he came off the bench for this Thunder team, went to Houston and really made That's where he made his name. That's where he became a bonafide superstar. And then he's he's had trips elsewhere to Brooklyn and to Philadelphia, and now he's he's back home in Los Angeles. Shack was known for power and rute force and all those points of being dominating. Look, I think I'll remember James Harden number one the step back is great. I think a lot of people will probably head roll because his playoff record is not great. People will say he kind of shrink when the lights got the brightest. But he still has chapters to write. And that's the beauty of this game is that he's not finished yet. And the way the Clippers are starting to rebound. Now, remember they got off to that six and twenty one start, and now Kawhi and James Harden and Zubots they're starting to figure.

00:25:22
Speaker 7: It out and make a push.

00:25:24
Speaker 12: It can be one of those scary teams at the bottom of that Western Conference.

00:25:30
Speaker 7: They would be a hard out.

00:25:31
Speaker 12: I'm not saying they can win, but that's a hard out to go against Kawhi and James Harden.

00:25:38
Speaker 2: Would you rather have the career of Russell Westbrook Junior the third or James Harden.

00:25:44
Speaker 7: God, you can't have them.

00:25:48
Speaker 12: Both Both are MVPs, both are first ballot Hall of Famers.

00:25:51
Speaker 2: Nope, he got a pick.

00:25:57
Speaker 7: John. How do you pick that? They're almost one and the same.

00:26:02
Speaker 12: I would go with I'm gonna go with the guy who's in the top ten in scoring.

00:26:08
Speaker 2: I would go with James Harden, But Russ is gonna be up there all time stats too.

00:26:14
Speaker 12: I mean trouble double two and a half years, you know, averagine.

00:26:19
Speaker 7: I mean that's almost unheard of.

00:26:21
Speaker 2: Rebound and assist for guards.

00:26:24
Speaker 7: I mean, look, you can't go wrong.

00:26:29
Speaker 2: Who would you not as your two? Would you want as your teammate the way I you don't want Harden?

00:26:38
Speaker 12: The way I would probably go with Russ.

00:26:41
Speaker 7: As my team?

00:26:44
Speaker 2: Yes, what about it?

00:26:46
Speaker 12: Because you're not gonna find very many guards that do with what Russ does, the sacrifice he makes on his body when you're rebuilding like that, that's it's a different gene, it's a different mindset.

00:27:00
Speaker 2: I had Bill Kower on Last Hour and we were talking about when guys came over to date his daughters, his three daughters, and he treated them like they were players on the Steelers, Like these are the things I tell my players. This is what I'm going to tell you about date dating my daughter. Your kids are what nine and five? Now, you got a little bit of time before, you had a.

00:27:28
Speaker 7: Lot of time.

00:27:29
Speaker 12: But you're scaring me getting ready to come out your mouth because I am not ready for it. And I know you've got a house full of beautiful young ladies as well, and I already told my wife two things. Have the lawyer's number on speed dial. And I'm not playing. I'm serious about this. I look, I'm I'm just stop playing when it comes to my girls, and nothing will ever be good enough for them.

00:27:56
Speaker 7: That's just how I feel.

00:27:58
Speaker 12: And any this step dad is stepping in And if you like it, I'm not playing with it.

00:28:05
Speaker 7: I just I'm not have the lawyer's number on speed out.

00:28:08
Speaker 2: You'll you'll be better as you as they get older. You trust I was right there with you. And then all of a sudden, you trust them, you raise them right, and you you just you want them to make the right decisions. That's the biggest thing. But it's it's I hope.

00:28:28
Speaker 12: I'm laying I hope I'm laying a great foundation foundation for them.

00:28:32
Speaker 7: Just see how I interact with mom and how we treat me.

00:28:37
Speaker 2: That's key.

00:28:38
Speaker 7: That's big.

00:28:39
Speaker 12: But also too in today's age of all these damn documentaries and scary it's just the world it's too volatile for me to handle right now. And I'm just telling you Theodore for all you young boys, don't come, don't don't come half stepping, because I am not playing. I'm not playing. I've lived a great life. I'm saying, I don't care about going into hokey.

00:29:06
Speaker 7: I don't care out.

00:29:08
Speaker 2: You're gonna do some time. You're willing to do time. I'm willing to do time.

00:29:12
Speaker 7: I don't care.

00:29:14
Speaker 2: You'll go You'll be soft, ye.

00:29:16
Speaker 7: Ruggers that are willing to do the same.

00:29:22
Speaker 2: I got you twenty sixth on the all time scoring list.

00:29:26
Speaker 7: I'm just outside.

00:29:27
Speaker 2: I know you're not gonna You're not gonna stay there, though.

00:29:31
Speaker 7: Is there any way I can come back?

00:29:33
Speaker 13: Well?

00:29:33
Speaker 7: How many points them on behind twenty five?

00:29:35
Speaker 2: Marvin? Would you check how many.

00:29:38
Speaker 12: Points them all behind twenty five? If it's if it's a year's worth?

00:29:43
Speaker 5: No, no, no, So you're pretty close to alex English. Oh, you're at twenty five two seventy nine. Alex English is at twenty five six thirteen.

00:29:54
Speaker 12: That is that's like thirty thirty five games.

00:30:00
Speaker 5: Yes, Marvin, that's a night at the garden for regend.

00:30:06
Speaker 2: It'd be a great story if you came out of retirement.

00:30:10
Speaker 7: That happened in Hey.

00:30:12
Speaker 12: But but you know, I saw you talking earlier about Aaron Rodgers, and I hope this isn't it. You know you're talking about Lebron and the patch patch on the back whatever. He doesn't want to go out. How last night unfolded?

00:30:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's no guarantee it's any better next year, right, I know?

00:30:30
Speaker 7: But you kind of want to script how it ends?

00:30:33
Speaker 2: And did you script?

00:30:36
Speaker 12: Yes, how I ended in my losses to the Detroit Pistons in the playoffs. I couldn't have asked for a better script, Thank you, Larry Brown. The timeouts so the fans it happened at home them defeating us. I believe it was in game six or something, and the extra.

00:30:55
Speaker 7: The timeout by Carlisle, the extra time.

00:30:57
Speaker 12: Out by Larry Brown, the Pistons walking over to our side of the floor in the state. Yes, it was unscripted, but it was scripted. Well that's how it went out. I need the playoffs. I gave everything I got. Last night was not Aaron Rodgers' best, because we've seen him at the very high of his game and I just hope this isn't it.

00:31:20
Speaker 2: But did you have to retire?

00:31:22
Speaker 7: I didn't have to retire.

00:31:24
Speaker 2: Why the game was.

00:31:27
Speaker 12: Changing, it was getting younger and again I retired when I was thirty nine. Aaron Rodgers is forty one and some of those hits he was taking. I felt I felt watching the game from the steakhouse. I was like, you feel that when the older you get, every bumps and bruise you feel, and every day trying to get up and go to practice and training camp, it just takes a toll on your body the older you get. So that's why I applaud James Harden, Lebron Russell, these guys, Stephen Curry, these guys are getting long in the tooth. And trust me when I tell you this, they feel it, you feel it.

00:32:10
Speaker 2: It'll be a knock knock, knock, Hello, mister Miller. Is your daughter here? Yeah, And they're gonna be so nice and they're gonna be polite. They're gonna say all the things that they think you want to hear.

00:32:26
Speaker 7: Yep.

00:32:27
Speaker 12: That's why I've been blessed to have done this game and save some money. That's what p i's are for. Trust me, they will have eyes on them. I don't play play when it comes to my girls. And the good thing that I had a boy first, and I've told him, don't be a punk. You better protect these girls, because if you don't protect the girls, you and I are.

00:32:49
Speaker 1: Gonna have full.

00:32:53
Speaker 2: But Cheryl protected. You did.

00:32:55
Speaker 7: That's right how it should be. Family protects, family and protective show.

00:33:01
Speaker 2: Yeah that we have yet another Spurs thunder game tonight with reg Noah Eagle. Have fun tonight, good to talk about.

00:33:14
Speaker 7: It's gonna be a good one. It's gonna be hot.

00:33:17
Speaker 2: That'll be uh tonight, It'll be okay. See that's at eight East or non NBC in Peacock. Well take a break. Last call for phone calls, What we learned, What's in store tomorrow? And this day in sports history? Right after this.

00:33:29
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. Last call for phone calls, What we learn, What's in store tomorrow? You know that I can't get through a movie or a show. I can't just sit unless I go to a theater. And when I went to see Marty Supreme, I'm in the theater, so I watched it all the way through. But the Leonardo DiCaprio movie What Is It?

00:34:01
Speaker 2: One hurdle after another, and it was recognized by the critics. But one battle after another is that what it is? And I watched fifteen minutes and then I turned it off because I thought, I don't know if I'm gonna like this. But then I started to, you know, hear and read a lot of the reviews and people were hailing this, you know, letting a blockbuster movie at the theater, but it was critically acclaimed. Been Nicio del Toro and Sean Penn and you got Leonardo DiCaprio, who is the uh Tiana Taylor is that right? She holds her own with DiCaprio. Woo. Sean Penn's incredible in this movie. Incredible And Seaton brought it up yesterday, not on the show, but he was talking about Sean Penn's performance. I go, all right, I'm gonna give this another try. So I'm about I don't know our ten into this. It's a long movie. Yes, it's a very long movie. Sean Penn's great. Yeah, and I never like I've seen him in movies and you know, you know, he's in a scene, but he's not really playing Sean Penn in this. He just gives you like different nuances that you just go And Benicio del Toro is great in everything that he's in DiCaprio is kind of becoming. He plays Leonardo DiCaprio in the movie, although he plays a stoner pretty well in here, convincing. Yeah, he's done it before. But Sean Penn, who you know.

00:35:42
Speaker 6: I think Sean Penn was awesome in that movie. And I thought Benicio del Toro and Leonardo DiCaprio should do more movies together because on screen I thought they were fantastic. Yeah, they should start doing a whole bunch of stuff.

00:35:54
Speaker 2: All right, last call for phone calls. Yes, Marvin, you have a question.

00:35:57
Speaker 5: Yeah, quick question about the NFL robbery. Has the Bears Packers overtaken Raven Steelers as the most intense rivalry in the NFL? Like nationally? I know in the Midwest, I'm sure Packers Bears, but nationally has it overtaken Raven Steelers?

00:36:13
Speaker 2: Recncy bias, recentcy bias.

00:36:17
Speaker 5: As long as Ben Johnson stays a coach, it'll stay intense.

00:36:20
Speaker 2: But I'm fine with it. You know when somebody said, oh, he's showing disrespect, Yeah, all right, I'm okay with it. Do you have Ben Johnson talking about this? All right? Here we go.

00:36:30
Speaker 3: Like I said before, there's there's a rivalry that exists between these two teams, something that that I fully recognize and I'm a part of.

00:36:39
Speaker 2: And uh yeah, I mean there's I just I don't like that team. So George and I have talked and we're on the same page. Yeah, I'm fine with it. I'm good with this. It's okay, yes, Dylan.

00:36:53
Speaker 8: Well, historically it's been a pretty one sided rivalry too, Like Raven Steelers. I feel like it's usually pretty neck and neck, but the Bear's care a lot more about the Packers than the other way around.

00:37:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this has the feeling of the Red Sox and the Yankees until the Red Sox beat them when it mattered, because you know, we would talk about that. It felt like every year, this isn't a rivalry until the Red Sox win. Then the Red Sox won. But we don't even look at it as much of a I don't think we're fixated on the rivalry the way we were because it was. Well, all I know is when I was at Sports Center, we were fixated on it. Therefore America had to be fixated. It's like Duke in North Carolina. Hey, we're fixated on this so you got to be fixated, Yes, Marv.

00:37:40
Speaker 5: Sunday Night baseball, it was seventeen straight Red Sox Yankees games that were four hours long.

00:37:45
Speaker 2: Oh all right, let me get a couple of phone calls in here Joe and Portland. Hi, Joe, what's on your mind today?

00:37:55
Speaker 13: Thank you have an NCAA question and a comments for when you.

00:37:59
Speaker 2: Reach Oh okay.

00:38:02
Speaker 13: I grew up in Indiana and I left at age thirty. From my perspective, Indiana, folks will change their values when money is involved. Do you think that the NCUBA would be different if it had remained in Kansas City.

00:38:20
Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I'm not sure what you're saying, Joe, that because the NCUBA relocated to Indianapolis.

00:38:28
Speaker 13: Yes, and that money is a driving force for Indiana, and that they will if money's involved, they'll overlook what is of value driven area in order to chase that money. And I think Kansas City would have been a location that might have had a better NIL display and that sort of thing.

00:38:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're losing me here, but thanks for the phone call. Too late in the show for me to think that too that deeply about this something about money and NIL and Indiana and all I know is Indiana has become a football state.

00:39:09
Speaker 6: And all I know is that everybody is like, you know what, hire all the recruit all the twenty three year olds you possibly can, because that was there.

00:39:16
Speaker 2: Seems to be part of their magic sauce. Yeah, and everybody's now realizing, oh my god, Indiana's they have all these guys who were twenty three, twenty four years of age. Have you watched March Madness. In the last couple of years, you got grown men who were playing. They've transferred three or four times. They're twenty three, twenty four years of age. It's there, it's been happening. But then you had the COVID year that led to this. But I would be taking transfers all day long if I'm a head coach in college all day certainly in football. I want to know what you did, not what you can do. And remember when the recruits would get there and they'd have three hats, and boy, it was a big deal. Mothership. Would you know, have it on Sports Center. We don't get caught up in that. Now it's that guy was there. Now he can come here and this is the price. Yes, Todd, Is.

00:40:11
Speaker 4: There any thoughts to, well, you transferred once before. You're gonna come to me, then you're gonna leave me. Were you just kind of living for that season?

00:40:16
Speaker 2: I guess it's it's year to year. It's not kid anybody, Yes, Marvin.

00:40:21
Speaker 5: I haven't seen Tom Logan building about Yes?

00:40:24
Speaker 7: Oh wow.

00:40:25
Speaker 2: This day in sports history, Michael Jordan announced his second retirement. Let's go around the room. What we learned on the program? Todd? Did you learn anything today? I sure did.

00:40:35
Speaker 4: Bill Carrot to hold any boys dating his daughters, to be aware of choices and consequences, have them back by midnight?

00:40:40
Speaker 2: Seaton, what did you learn today? Well, Calor is feeling good today he got fired. Yeah, Hey, he's feeling good, Marvin Seaton said.

00:40:48
Speaker 5: Fritzy is our Caleb Williams.

00:40:50
Speaker 2: Mmmm, okay, up and down?

00:40:52
Speaker 5: Yeah, ish yeah?

00:40:53
Speaker 2: Dylan in for uh Fritz or in for Paulie.

00:40:56
Speaker 8: Paulie might be sicker than Mike tom Win.

00:40:58
Speaker 2: Today, Todd? What did I learned today? We all learn your line of the day.

00:41:02
Speaker 5: Patch on the back for Lebron's twenty.

00:41:04
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