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Speaker 1: You're excited. I'm very excited. The Huskers play this Thursday.

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Speaker 1: And it's here's the best television. And the thing that fires Incinnati Bearcats go ahead, the thing they gives a rule year three, the era.

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Speaker 5: Go ahead, history, history, Matt rule year three, and the fire. The thing that fires me up is everybody's making this out to be a big game because it's neutral site, and Cincinnati was good four years ago, five years ago when Fickle was there. I have no doubts right now that Nebraska is covering minus six and a half. It's almost that's as salting. Yeah, I know, I know. I'm on that with you.

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Speaker 7: I'm on that.

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Speaker 5: I will say this, if we're playing a transparency game every year, week one of the locker room or whatever gambling show we're doing kind of has that big spike. It's up to me. You everybody on this bus and everybody who watches this show to make sure that we're following the picks all year long.

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Speaker 5: You got to deliver a great box. I'd like to think Week zero Futures Picks went very well. Yes, I think everybody was dialed in. Everybody was locked in. Clay Matthews came in with an absolute bang on the NFL locker room. Josh Pate Encyclopedia guy is incredible. Any team you want to talk about, I can just say a team to him. He's gonna start rattling off transfers, transfers in, transfers out. Oh see, changes DC changes, how the school looks, the vibe, the culture, everything. Josh Pat's that guy.

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Speaker 1: Don't sleep on yourself. Now, you say Taylor one Arizona State go you know everything about her? I am.

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Speaker 5: I did, But I'm more of like a I'm like a I can sprinkle on a certain teams here and there. I'm not as widely versed as Josh paid is.

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Speaker 1: That's why we got we.

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Speaker 5: Got him on because I know when it comes to Nebraska football, you have an idea of what's going on around there. Yes, you have an idea. Speaking of Nebraska football, Speaking of podcasts, Matt Ruhle House Rules first episode just came out. I watched ten fifteen minutes of it. I want to know what you think.

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Speaker 1: Time out. I've got a place to Here's what its Future's Day, It's futures. Also, Nebraska right now is plus three twenty if you want to go ten plus wins on the season.

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Speaker 8: People, we saw this was week zero of college football on Future's Day. This was a past bet, present bet. But we know there's a little bit of a Will Compton curse out there. Sometime he goes on bad betting streaks. And I couldn't help but be watching the Kansas State game. Open up Twitter and he places a live bet and he says, now.

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Speaker 9: We push money line. Kansas State doesn't hit. It was so week zero.

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Speaker 1: Iowa State scores, so we're down, Kansas State's down ten, and I'm looking like, okay, do I hedge? Here do I go? You know, Kansas State to cover? I think it was sitting around nine and a half. But the odds just weren't tickling my pickle the way I wanted it to jp and I just saw Kansas State plus one thousand. It was a plus a thousand or ten thous it was plus one thousand plus one thousand. And you know, okay, am I gonna chase with mind stign and have to cover like twot whatever my unit is? Two fifty five hundred is kind of my unit range? Or do I just take fifty and sprinkle the money line on Kansas State? Right? And what do you know? I pounded and they bomb sure when they get the ball, and I'm like, oh my god, I might be a fucking genius right now. And you know, Kansas State ended up losing the ball game.

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Speaker 5: Now, in the Locker Room College Football Edition, you said Kansas State is going to win the Big Twelve? Does your opinion change it a lot? Watching?

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Speaker 1: I think the Big Twelve is so wide open. It's a long season. And that does you sit there? You look at Iowa State, you see, uh is it rock though?

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Speaker 5: Which coach cam fell with him?

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Speaker 1: Coach Campbell? They can run the ball? Well, that little white boy in the backfield now he was he was talking.

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Speaker 5: Nothing gets you more rocked up than a white boy tot in the rock.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but they can run the ball a little bit. Kansas State's got to figure out who they want to be. Like, it's like, Avery Johnson has this ceiling and everybody wants him to touch this ceiling. But after watching that performance, the grace I give him is just that the elements in the environment. There's a wet ball field, you're going to Ireland, you're doing all these things. But the way he handled handled himself in a couple couple of pressure situations, it's like, are we just gonna get the same guy, because if it's the same guy, you're gonna be looking at a four lost season again, four or five, you're gonna get that floor with the coach climbing every time. He's a culture guy. They him going through the air. You just gotta build it. In the run game, you gotta lean on him. You gotta lean on him. I'll give you an example. It was like, and also drop balls everywhere week zero. You gotta assume there's gonna be bad football being played.

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Speaker 9: A lot off the field stuff too, a lot off the field.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we'll get to the We'll get to the Johnson scuffle, the Johnson coffee.

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Speaker 5: Date, Johnson and Johnson scuffle.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Johnson and Johnson scuffle after the game. But there was one where it's like I always State pressured them and they're running to zero blitz. Offensive line did a poor job picking it up, but somebody came screaming right down the middle. There's a dude, you know, wide open on that slot. He doesn't or Johnson aver he doesn't see it, and he gets an intentional grounding penalty. To me, it's like those cool, calm poise quarterbacks that are tapping into their ceiling in college football. They're gonna know what to do with the ball if they see the offensive line break down in front of them. They're obviously they see pressures coming. You're assuming nobody's gonna come Scott Free up the middle. I think the offensive line had a brain fart there, but the quarterback usually knows what to do when they are absolutely dialed the fuck in. Yeah, they won't be you know, falling back, getting not to the line of scrimmage and getting a grounding penalty. In my opinion, yeah, I think seeing his head on a swivel, it's like those moments right there. And there's also drop balls, Like there's this cat I think his last name is it Bradley, number five. It's like a fourth and seven, fourth and eight guys wide open. He drops the ball, no doubt, but they were not hitting the pantic buttons specifically.

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Speaker 5: Talking about that that play where Avery Johnson will kind of screwed it over to the right a little bit, didn't get it past the line of scrimmage, get an intentional ground and call on the fourth and whatever. Avery Johnson shows flashes of like amazing athletic ability. He can run the ball really well in his career. He's got he got some savviness on the east west category. But when I look at him throw the football one his motion doesn't. I mean, I'm not a quarterback coach. You guys see me throw a ball. I'm not the greatest, Like I don't have the greatest arm motion in the world. We know, but if I'm watching a D one quarterback, his release looks a little different to me. And he has cats. This is after the weather subsides in the first and second quarter. This is now you know, the game is officially like people are getting into a groove of the game. I'm watching Avery Johnson, I'm watching Rock go beck I'm seeing Rock go becked. At one point, he is five for twelve in completion. In his completions, however, I saw four or five drops that were like right in the bread basket, right in the hands where it's like, especially when you could have in the film and it's like the coach is there and he's like, our quarterback can't give you a better ball. You have to come down with this. That was in the first quarter and a half. Avery. When I watch him, he had a guy on an out, you know, not necessarily a routine play, but a lot of separation. He's sailing that thing where it's an un catchable ball for both of them. I saw Avery kind of flinch a little bit when it comes to putting the ball in the places you need to be if you want to be a bag twelve champion, if you want to be the school that's going through the next step, not have the floor because you're gonna lean on your culture of having four or five losses. I didn't love that. I give grace because you're in Ireland, the weather's bad. Anytime you go, you know, over to Europe or the other side of the world, everyone's always bitching, complaining about the field. You see that with the receivers, they're slipping and sliding everywhere. But I like when I walk away from that game, I look at Iowa State's offensive line, I go, they've got a lot of holes. They've got a lot of issues going on there. But I look at rock O Beckt. He seems very decisive. He gets the ball out really fast. He puts the ball in a good place for guys to be successful. I see Avery Johnson in that zero blitz, he with all the athletic body in the world, kind of gets scared and just just kind of muffins one over in the right side. Avery, I think he needs to take a look in the mirror a little bit. While if you're an Iowa State fan, you're like, yeah, we have obvious holes in certain areas, but I like our quarterback and he's gonna give us a chance to win every single time. Because once the run game started to get going a little bit. You see the offensive line. They're a little undersized, They're not the most athletic group in the world. They were giving up some pressures, especially early in the game versus that defensive line. But your quarterback, buddy, I'm telling you, you got a little something, you little creative with some bubble, some movement, stuff like that, he's gonna put the ball where you wanted to. I don't feel that way with Avery after this week, but you.

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Speaker 1: Got through the run game with Avery like Avery gives me a feeling of like a I don't want to come off as a shot in any type of way. It's just warm my brain. His dad like like a poor man. It's like a style of Taylor Martinez where you can run the ball really.

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Speaker 5: Well, what like twenty twelve reference, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Taylor Martinez. Yeah, but he was a monster.

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Speaker 5: Oh no, no, he was a study.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, ceiling awkward, you know, our motion, all that kind of stuff. But you build it through the run game with Avery Johnson more than you would obviously. The opposing quarterback is rockebec Yeah. I just think I'm not pushing the painted button on Kansas State. It's a lot of that where they're going to get back over back across the pond, and it's going to be a lot of just playing team football.

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Speaker 5: And you, of all people should know with your team weak zero doesn't count. Foreign soil, it doesn't count.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't mean it still haunts me.

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Speaker 5: I'm just looking at Iowa State and if I'm Aloway state, I feel really good about my quarterbacks performance. I think percentage wise, he was actually below fifty percent. But if you watch the game, you're like, Okay, there's a lot of dropballs there. There's a lot of Week zero, no preseason guys feeling out and the weather.

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Speaker 1: I wonder what made Johnson and Johnson get into the scuffle, like we're probably this conversation.

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Speaker 5: It's probably this conversation where the dad is feeling some type of way he thinks his son is going to be a first round pick when the season's over. A lot of people are talking.

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Speaker 1: About the fact that they're on the ground fighting.

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Speaker 5: Which is just crazy. In a puddle too, They're just fighting in a puddle.

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Speaker 1: It just means war in Ireland.

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Speaker 10: In Ireland, like I think, I think that's to me, Yeah, that's just another to me, this is nothing to look at.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a this is a getting the coffee in Ireland. This is what happens. This is nothing even to look at. I saw that they posted in all we won't let it happen again. It means more to this family. This family takes as their football very seriously.

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Speaker 5: One though I don't know which one's which.

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Speaker 9: Low key. I think dad had top control.

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Speaker 1: Dad had top is that dad who had top control? All right?

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Speaker 9: All right on a great, great dub for the dad if he was the winner.

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Speaker 1: What the stuff that I've heard in the college football world. I saw that video. I saw that fight, and it didn't come off surprising to me, because you know, you got the you got the dad who's very involved with the son who happens to be the starting quarterback in Kansas State with a high ceiling. So when I saw this video, I wasn't too surprised. I had a good laugh, and it's like, hey, keep it moving.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, gotta know what's to set them off? Your city? This is this is this is a family issue. Family decide to handle stuff in public a little bit. Take the cameras away, let him handle their business. Let's move on and move forward. Let's get on out of here. That's all it is.

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Speaker 8: I like to picture it the the brother, younger brother was like saying like avery sucks or whatever, and the dad was like, you're at to even.

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Speaker 9: Play college football?

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Speaker 2: Shut up?

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Speaker 9: And then they start fighting. Yeah, that's how I picture it going down.

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Speaker 1: You know, Dad's at home right now, everybody's asking about family fights right all the time. That's all that was.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, thor and soil doesn't count anything you do over there. It doesn't matter what do you do in the continents of the United States or Hawaii where Stanford lost.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're having they're having.

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Speaker 5: The Stanford loses to Hawaii, bro, which is just when are they going to come out of the gutter? Man, When are they gonna get back to the harball area where they're in, you know, forty six personnel, they have all offensive linemen on the field in one running back and they're just gonna shove it down your throat because they just can't. They just can't fucking get it done. You even have Andrew Luck who retired early, who is a generational talent, your GM, and we just can't figure it out.

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Speaker 1: And I hope they win just because Andrew Luck's there. Yeah, same, But I don't really watch it. They Stanford football, I.

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Speaker 5: Mean, no doubt, they've got to have the worst schedule. Every year, they fly to Hawaii, get have to six hour fight from Stanford, they fly back, and then they got to play five or six games on the East Coast because of the acc We're setting these boys up for failure you can't give them.

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Speaker 1: And a school that's.

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Speaker 5: Known for being so smart, what are we fucking doing? What are we doing?

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Speaker 1: They're racking up the rewards points. Right here's what you do.

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Speaker 1: Back to this episode, a team that looks solid and don't know how good. Fresno stated, it seems like they are asked, but Kansas look pretty good.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think presdo stage just asked? I mean I to be honest. To be honest, I didn't really watch the game, so that was kind of like that was a floater. I just put that in the wind right there. I probably shouldn't have no disrespect for the one of the Jayhawks. I my brain sees basketball, that's all I'll say. Show me, don't tell me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Jalen Daniels is he Yeah, he is a dog for Kansas. It's truly all about him being healthy because he's built again, not trying to take a shot at the kids. Built a little lean, built a little frail, hell of an athlete. But he's been on the injury report several times from Kansas. Because you listen to uh Peyton, you listen all the college football heads talk about it like Kansas or Kansas could be a competitor in the Big twelve, but it truly all depends on the quarterback. Jalen Daniels Big Week, Man Bag Week. You were asking about coach Rule in his podcast.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was. I want to know how you felt about Matt Rule ten days before the kickoff of their football seasons, has a podcast that comes out. I saw the intro. He's got a lot of questions too. I understand that he's in the building. I love Matt Yeah, I love Nebraska football. Are we getting distracted? We had the photo shoot a couple of months ago, we had a podcast. Now I have no doubt year three Matt rule is going to show up this year. That's not going to be the issue. What's too much though, And I'm not saying I'm in it or out of it. I'm just worried about distractions. I know my boy's been hurting for the good part of a decade, and I just want everyone to be focused on your mental health. And when I see the podcast, I get worried that maybe we're not one hundred percent focused on well conference mental health in Nebraska.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't need to be focused on my mental health. I love the podcast. I think you know, he's a pioneer in the space man.

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Speaker 2: He uh.

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Speaker 1: When he was talking about doing it, I was like, bro, I think it's a great idea. You get an inside looking everything going on with Nebraska. And again, he's got a lot of questions. He wants to have a podcast. Let me ask you, when we started our poto, would you say that you were distracted? I would say no, But I like, would you say you lost focus, You're not focused on the task at hand.

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Speaker 5: No, it's a bad argument. But I understand what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: Why is it a bad argument?

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Speaker 5: Because I was a left tackle for a team, one of eleven guys in the field at one time, knowing my job, my circumstances, and basically evaluating the players that I'm playing against and the scheme I'm playing against. This is a head coach football team, who's managing recruiting guys, who's managing transfer portals, who's managing quarterbacks who want more money, receivers that they're bringing in to help their quarterback out. Now they have to worry about their offense. Hogerson's doing his thing. Well, how's our defense going to be this year? We lost two guys in the middle that were like, how do we replace that? So there's a lot more on a head coach's plate than there is on a left tackle plate. I'm not saying this is a bad thing. I'm just worried distraction. Yeah, And it's only and Matt said it in his podcast, there's only so many hours in the day. There's only so many hours in the day. There's only so much time you can focus on football before you need to, you know, spread your wings into your other stuff, invest in other things in your life. So I'm with you on if you want to take an hour out of your week and do a podcast, sit there. I love that he's standing by the way. Great for the body. I think that's awesome. I think I think it's great. I just it's so new, right, It's so it's very new.

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Speaker 1: Feels uncomfortable, feel uncompany. Is It's like when you come to it, Hey, when you when you drop the first episode, just be ready for the external noise, because it's going to be there, especially if you don't win. The external noise is going to be there. But you answered, you know, you answered the question the same way when you were coming on and doing bust on the boys. Is you understand what your capacity is. I trust that he knows what his capacity is. If he's taking an hour, hour and a half to do a podcast, I'm sure there's a lot of episodes that are already banked, then it's like, you know, he's doing his thing.

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Speaker 5: I just hope that, uh, if the season doesn't go the way that we expected to go with Nebraska, I hope he just keeps doing it. I don't want it to be a week where it's like, we're not going to do it this week and then give an excuse for it. That's a bad look. You got to you gotta punch through no matter what. Similar to our first year doing the podcast, right we start tune four, I'm suspended, the whole world's burning into the ground, and we just kept on going and it's like, you don't you want you don't want to, but worst case scenario, you gotta keep doing it, Matt, Yeah, gotta keep doing it throughout the season, you.

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Speaker 10: Know, and will goes on though that episode is gonna go crazy.

00:24:11
Speaker 1: It'll be after the season when we you know, you should do it, you should do it.

00:24:16
Speaker 5: Bust and Bull week.

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Speaker 1: No, No, he's got He's again after the season, because I'm sure he's got a lot of episodes that are already backlog like that's not no, that's not the right time. Timing is everything, and the timing for that banger will be postseason when we ten plus wins ten.

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Speaker 10: Plus maybe like super Bowl week. He's got like a setup at media row.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all the haters that they're waiting for a little drop and then the point to hey, this is a distraction. Yeahda YadA, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

00:24:45
Speaker 5: The white noise. Yeah, it's a bunch of bullshit. I'm just I was playing. I'm playing a little Devil's advocate for you. I want, I want Nebraska to be Nebraska for your sake. I can't see you go through it again, Taylor.

00:24:57
Speaker 1: This is not we feel good. Listen, I am, I'm It's football week. We're finally here since Cincinnati Cincinnati Week one, Cincinnati Bearcats home game. Yeah. And Dana.

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Speaker 5: JP, isn't he understands Yeah, he absolutely understands.

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Speaker 2: Two.

00:25:13
Speaker 1: Matt Matt Rule, Year three. Yeah, got a bunch of hogs.

00:25:16
Speaker 5: Everything, everything's going your way. Everything's going your way.

00:25:20
Speaker 1: Yet it feels good.

00:25:22
Speaker 5: Everything set up to go every good right now, the year three Matt Rule quarterback in year two, went to the transfer portal. Got yourself a couple of wide receivers to help out that offense a little bit, spicy defense, hogs in the middle.

00:25:35
Speaker 1: I'm with you, Yeah, I'm with you. Some youth on defense. I'm excited to see the black Shirts run around out there.

00:25:41
Speaker 5: Yeah. Other news, Brice Underwood is now the starter for the University of Michigan golf up him.

00:25:48
Speaker 1: I'm excited to watch right underwood Man. He looks like an alien in a uniform.

00:25:53
Speaker 5: He looks like an alien. The one practice we got to saw, I think we all walked away impressed, like, Okay, maybe this kid is who people of saying he is. He had the one hiccup against Nico Shadow, our intern Nico who uh what's his middle that's his last name? Ghetto? Yeah, Andrew Ghetto Italian as fucking gets yeah, quick release. The question mark going this is you get Mikey Keane from Fresno State, you bring him in do you let Mikey King take over while his kids kind of learning a little bit unless you see something that's like, this guy's got to be our starter right here, right now. I think it's a good move long term for the University of Michigan. You bring back a lot of stars in the offensive line, a lot of things coming out of that camp saying the offense line's gotten a whole lot better from last year. At they ended the season really well, much better than run game, much better protection. I'm excited to see him New Mexico, but more than anything, I'm excited to see that that Week two in Oklahoma.

00:26:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Bryce Underwood's you brought him there to be the future for the next however many years of Michigan. If you throw him in the fire, if he's got any type of ability that you recruited him for. I don't like the juggling quarterbacks. I don't think you start another cat. Let him get you know, let him feel out the game. Dicks. I'm and you got Oklahoma on week two, You're at Norman. Yeah, week two, I think you just got to get him in. If he takes his legs, he'll take him early. But he's going to be a stud.

00:27:07
Speaker 5: He's gonna be He's going to be a stud.

00:27:08
Speaker 1: Yeah.

00:27:08
Speaker 5: The whole the phrase, if you got two quarterbacks, you got zero quarterbacks? Yeah, you gotta you gotta stick with one guy and get this kid, you know, in the fire immediately. A big ten ball. I agree, big ten ball with an again.

00:27:19
Speaker 1: This weekend New Mexico.

00:27:21
Speaker 5: I think we're favored by thirty eight and a half points. That's that's nuts. Probably yeah, I'll probably just take it to you know, support the voice. But last years, last year, Week one, we're sitting in uh ted was it? Texas Station? Station Station Texas? A and m there's Notre Dame and I'm sitting there on my phone watching I don't know if it was Bowling Green or something, just being like, we can't it might have been Fresno, that's it. That's a I think that might have been who it was. But I remember sitting there, well, this electric game is going on on my phone thinking to myself, Oh fuck, but yeah, big trouble half, yeah, yeah, but we still didn't cover. Yeah, still didn't cover and it was shaky. We couldn't throw the ball.

00:28:05
Speaker 1: Very come out of that game with some question marks.

00:28:07
Speaker 5: And then I think the next week or the week after that, we're play Texas and we all walked in there. We knew it was a bit of a uh sacrificial lamb out for a huge feeling.

00:28:16
Speaker 1: It's a huge year for Michigan, pivotalivot. I think it goes.

00:28:22
Speaker 9: You gotta hire good Well, I won't go there.

00:28:26
Speaker 1: Who's at the helm, They're like, this is a big year for coach Moore?

00:28:30
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, this is a big year. I don't think this is like a hot let's say, worst case scenario, we hit the floor with Michigan. It's it's bad, it's it's seven and five or whatever it is. I don't think you're looking at Sean Moore and being like, we're replacing him after this year.

00:28:43
Speaker 9: Hire fast, fire faster, you think so.

00:28:46
Speaker 5: I think the biggest thing that colleges run into issues is like hiring or firing guys way too quickly. I'm with you, Yeah, I think like I think Matt rules should typically still be a.

00:28:57
Speaker 1: Lot of successful business owners say is like high fast, fire fast. Yeah.

00:29:01
Speaker 5: I just think that.

00:29:02
Speaker 1: I do think if you guys have a you mentioned seven to five, you go seven to five. Your in tennas do have.

00:29:06
Speaker 5: To be your intennas go up for the next year. No, there's no doubt about it. Yeah, well, you're you have a really short leash going into the following season is a favor. This is other you know, Yeah, Oklahoma, you got Nebraska, and then it's pretty favorable after that until you get into officely the last game of the year, which you can kind of just mark up as a win at this point the way they played the last four years. But yeah, it'll be fun. It'll be a fun year to watch. I think we're all excited for our teams.

00:29:30
Speaker 1: Big year, big season, just for busting in general. We just had a Rearview Mirror, the very first episode of Rearview Mirror. If you guys like some little documentary style content, Rearview Mirror just dropped last night on Sunday, looking back at our Donald Trump interview, everything that went around the Donald Trump interview, how we ended up getting him as a guest to lead up into him coming in the room, everything around it with the Busting with the Bust and Boys, Taylor, myself, Delaney, the Boys in the Back. Jared Beeman, a producer at Bust with Jobbs, did an incredib edible job. This is his brainchild, something he's been one to do for a long time, and we didn't really we didn't give him any guardrails. It was just hey, make whatever he's going on in your mind.

00:30:10
Speaker 5: Right, this is his idea, this is his baby. He went out and did it showed I mean when he was showing it to me, will Be was like seventy five eighty percent done. That was blown away by the production.

00:30:19
Speaker 1: First time I watched it was last night. Really yeah, and I called him up and I said, bro, that is incredible work.

00:30:26
Speaker 5: Yeah, he absolutely killed it. So if you like that, if you like the rearview Mirror. It's very it's a very new thing.

00:30:32
Speaker 1: Sit down, confessional corner type like, Yeah.

00:30:34
Speaker 5: Jared came in and at the end of at the end of the episode, he's like, if you like this, blah blah blah, and I'm more just wondering, who do you want to see next? Obviously there's a lot of other big guests that we've had on If you're wondering, but the backstory again and leave in the comments, who do you want to see in the rearview mirror?

00:30:50
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, drop comments. That feedback is really going to help Jared because I think he's saying the cadence might be like once every three months and just focus on a moment in busting lore and busting history. That was pivot for us. I think I feel like there's a lot of different ship. JP's got so much footage from the vlogs.

00:31:06
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think like a busting Bowl one would would be cool.

00:31:09
Speaker 1: Busting Bowl be awesome. You got the vrabel like when we took off with Vrabels signing with Barstool, leaving Barstool fan duel, Jeffrey.

00:31:20
Speaker 5: Jeffrey Starr, Jelly Roll. I think just how he got the folded us because we kind of just stumbled upon Jelly like came out of his own way just to come and meet us and be like, hey, I'm a fan. If you guys won't want to come on your show.

00:31:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, starting as just a podcast and expanding in the vlogs, expanding into different shows and content. Yeah no, then taking the camera inside locker room like yeah, I think there's a lot of there's a lot of meat on the bones.

00:31:44
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was. It was awesome with the production it was he it was like it was like a Netflix documentary the way we put together.

00:31:51
Speaker 10: I saw one that was like, y'all think ninety six bulls, Yes we are yeap.

00:31:58
Speaker 1: The one that I like the most is the one. And as like the top comment with all the thumbs up stuff is them just saying, like, you know, tipping the cap to the production like this is something that could be on like Netflix or HBO style, because it wasn't like the production of it was that good. Yeah, Jared did a really good job. Jerry came up with the quiet, Jerry came up with a lot of the ship. He did it.

00:32:17
Speaker 5: I think he did it all.

00:32:18
Speaker 1: Yea, Yeah, I know he was he was talking about He's sitting with JP on a lot of different stuff, like going over different moments way to kind of build the storyline out, ways to kind of like just look back at that moment and how it all transpired. It was the perfect length too, Yeah, it was like twenty three.

00:32:32
Speaker 5: Minutes, good, easy, digestible. You kind of want to, like just the intro of it all. You're like, I got to see what this is all about.

00:32:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, how it all kind of went down?

00:32:40
Speaker 5: The music.

00:32:40
Speaker 1: I thought he crushed it with the music.

00:32:43
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I'm sure the watch time on that video is going to be insane because there's no way you click on that and not want to stick around and just see how everything turns out. Yeah, like you know the end result, but like, how did it all happen?

00:32:53
Speaker 10: You' all talking about the madding ratings?

00:32:55
Speaker 1: Brow was so fa Yeah, and then JP having that, Yeah, having that sit down talking we're about to.

00:33:00
Speaker 5: Have farting in the chair is crazy, and dude, us just getting being stir crazy. We're in there for six hours, Yeah, just eventually like you had just a couple of wild dogs. I just need to get out of there.

00:33:10
Speaker 1: About to sit down with the now president of the United States, and we're arguing about Madden ratings.

00:33:16
Speaker 8: Everyone lying.

00:33:20
Speaker 5: Delanna saying he was a ninety nine is insane, and.

00:33:23
Speaker 8: Then I'm saying, oh, no, no way, I was injured that year. That has nothing to do with your Mad right at all?

00:33:29
Speaker 1: Right, no I was.

00:33:31
Speaker 5: I do feel disrespected still my Madden rings we went back on a couple weeks ago.

00:33:34
Speaker 1: Ya or eighty two?

00:33:37
Speaker 9: Speed was high or acceleration.

00:33:39
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00:34:08
Speaker 1: I don't want to beat a dead horse, but do we need to, like, this is the biggest show in the bust and universe, do we need to touch on the first pitch from last week? Yeah?

00:34:17
Speaker 9: We can.

00:34:17
Speaker 2: If you.

00:34:18
Speaker 5: I mean we did talk about in the locker room with Josh correct.

00:34:21
Speaker 1: Yeah.

00:34:22
Speaker 5: It listen. If I go into Saint Louis and throw that pitch the first time, I think we all just walk away like, hey, Willstrow was better, and we all kind of giggle.

00:34:33
Speaker 1: At the end of the day.

00:34:33
Speaker 5: It's like, yeah, it's a first pitch. It went in the direction you want to go because of Saint Louis, how much work we put in, and then the result we had where you have to essentially get off your feet to go get the ball.

00:34:44
Speaker 1: I jump that's vertical.

00:34:46
Speaker 5: Well, because you had to jump in the air, It's like, yeah, it's disappointing. It's a disappointing deal. I wish it was just a laser right down the middle. There's things I'm proud of. There's things I'm proud of. I didn't shy away from the speed. I didn't shy away just just to lob it in. But yeah, I think the moment was so funny.

00:35:07
Speaker 9: Did you see Frank the tanks pitch?

00:35:09
Speaker 5: I didn't see it. I did see it. It was nice.

00:35:11
Speaker 1: I did.

00:35:11
Speaker 5: I also noticed that he was strike. He wasn't on the he was he wasn't on the mound. He wasn't on the mound.

00:35:16
Speaker 1: You're right, if you throw that pitch, there's really nothing. They get nothing.

00:35:20
Speaker 5: The whold talk nothing.

00:35:20
Speaker 1: But since Saint Louis, it's like the question raises, does Taylor have this athletic ability in his bag?

00:35:26
Speaker 9: And are you right handed?

00:35:28
Speaker 1: Yeah?

00:35:28
Speaker 5: I think it's really just turned into like is the moment become too big for me? And that's it.

00:35:34
Speaker 1: That's it.

00:35:34
Speaker 5: That's a tough thing to look in the mirror and ask yourself that question, like is the moment too big for you?

00:35:38
Speaker 8: Because in the vlog you did say Will said, are you nervous? You said nervous for what we've been playing in front of big crowds our whole life.

00:35:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, was that a lie?

00:35:46
Speaker 7: Uh?

00:35:46
Speaker 5: I'm sure at the time when I said it. But once you get in and the lights are on, you have all fifteen people in that stadium, it's like, yo, I got to operate now. Yeah, And you get out there and I think we're playing catch in the outfield and I get like four or five and or rather kind of just squirrel away from me. Where Will has to essentially be like, hey, you got to lock in and then I, you know, I go and we we shored it up.

00:36:06
Speaker 1: Legit stood up and it was like, hey, bro, come yeah, this is like.

00:36:09
Speaker 5: I think I got. I think I that guy little too early. I think I was in a good headspace before we do the FanDuel TV where the guy had one hundred, three hundred and fifty four saves career He starts, yeah, yeah, career leader starts coaching me on like over the top, and I said it so many times I should have stuck with my guns. If Hayes in the barn, it's like you put the work in, you know the way you're throwing, and you kind of know what feels right. But to try to change the directory right before that pitch, I think that's what put me into a position that I'm not proud of. I'm not proud like that that checked the box, but it's not it's not the result. It's not the the exclamation point you want at the end of the story. Am I going to do another first pitch? I think the answer has to be.

00:36:53
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, And like you said, we'll put it on the show.

00:36:56
Speaker 5: We put on the show. Right now, we have a whole football season ahead of us. Let's get into let's get into opening day, Let's get into the start of the next next year's baseball season. Let's go throw a pitch.

00:37:06
Speaker 1: You had a bad week last week.

00:37:08
Speaker 5: No bad days, maybe bad weeks, though what happened last week?

00:37:11
Speaker 1: Well, not only did you have a bad first pitch, you also ran out of gas, right Jesus. Yeah.

00:37:16
Speaker 5: And it's like, at what age is that just unacceptable? I think the I think the answer is eighteen. I think once you are a technically an adult in America, it's time to make sure your gas is always good. A couple of disclaimers. My gas gauge doesn't work, and so I'm thinking to myself, I literally, no joke.

00:37:34
Speaker 9: This is not only you could get it fixed.

00:37:36
Speaker 5: No joke, dude. I'm leaving the Titans facility and I see it. I'm like, I'm pretty sure I like filled up that tank like six days ago, seven days ago. Maybe I'm I think I'm all right. And as I'm getting on, I think I'm at the last little bit, like I'm a quarter mile from the exit from our shop. All of a sudden, the gas that kind of goes You're like, what the fuck is going on? And I look on my I fucking ran out of gas. This is crazy.

00:37:59
Speaker 1: Let's talk about this truck. This truck needs to get put down.

00:38:04
Speaker 5: Bro cool looking truck, looking truck. I have the most unrealistic expectation in my life of having old vehicles that work and run every single day. That's that's whatever, for whatever reason, a goal. Except for myself, it is never going to come true. Every person I cross is like god, God, this had that. It always fucking broke on me. And I think I'm gonna be the guy that changes it, changes the game. I rented a gas the car break. No, the dumb idiot who driving the car, he's the one that fucked up.

00:38:36
Speaker 1: But then you say the gas gage is just not correct.

00:38:39
Speaker 8: Or yeah, yeah, we were, we were talking about it.

00:38:42
Speaker 1: He got more, he got more car problems.

00:38:45
Speaker 8: We were talking about it, though, is and this isn't like a shot, because when you do, when it happens to you, it is like you feel this way. But is running out of gas the dumbest thing you can do?

00:38:54
Speaker 1: A thousand to be up there? I think I did it twice in the year of twenty twenty four. Oh really, yeah, you know that you're you're the one that would tell me, hey, I never let my vehicle get below one hundred miles right on the.

00:39:06
Speaker 5: New vehicles because it, yeah, it pucks up your fuel pump. I did say that to you, and look at me right, like, take your own coaching. Yeah, take your own coaching and room with it. I like that. My week was tough last week. I like the week before the football season starting having some some more downs than I did. Ups. Now I get to get in the season, I feel I can wipe it away. Woke up this morning, threw a little stage on myself, burn it, sat there, cleansed myself. Let's get moving forward. Let's get this football season with good vibes. Yeah, it's good to get away from that. Yeah.

00:39:38
Speaker 1: Yeah. And we were coming off of some just some good interviews that people are going to get to listen to.

00:39:42
Speaker 5: Damn Ward cam Ward cam.

00:39:45
Speaker 1: Ard, Tyler Lockett. By the way, I was very impressed with.

00:39:48
Speaker 9: That your Saturday partner right thereeah Yeah.

00:39:50
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, oh yeah. Just loving to sit sit at the house all day long.

00:39:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, bench some shows not say a word you got you got this snack? How but I can get it for you.

00:40:01
Speaker 5: Yeah, Tyler does have that vibe or you don't. There's really no expectation love TV, which is the best kind of person. You just sit there and hang out. You don't want to talk. I guess we're not talking today. It's all good man, whatever's on the tube, we're gonna let it happen.

00:40:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then yeah, the Biscuit.

00:40:16
Speaker 5: Give him that last gear call.

00:40:17
Speaker 1: He's probably talking about it on the game the other night when we're going. But uh, he felt it seemed like he was nervous sitting there.

00:40:24
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I thought he was like shake. I thought he the mic was shaking a little bit too. I just think, you know, being a part of our group, chat, our friendship, I think he sees how Bussin's kind of like done, you know, gone up a little bit. He's probably made it a little bit bigger in his head. I think the Risks thing, I think that all everybody was, everybody besides you and me was pretty blindsided about the chat.

00:40:46
Speaker 1: I also think he's just a true war dog when it comes to football, Like this dude is in fight or flight, has been in fight or flight his entire career. Yeah, making rosters, he's going into year nine, He's he survived, He's he's had a career that he's proud.

00:41:00
Speaker 5: Of survive in advance is his mantra.

00:41:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's sitting there, he's probably got all the you know, whats coach is gonna think like, I'm not trying to I'm not trying to write be a distraction. I'm not trying to make it seem like, you know, all these things. Like he his anxiety was probably just through the roof, he says, a football guy, that's all ball, eas sleep, breath ball.

00:41:15
Speaker 5: When we go in this training camp tour, you can tell the guys that are more vested vets, and some guys were a little little more new. One guy that would surprise me a little bit was Cam. Like he's the first overall pick. There's a lot of eyeballs on a lot of people watching every move he makes. Seemed very relaxed, very comfortable in who he is as a person, which I was a big fan of a big fan of what that kid's gonna do. Obviously, the Titans, I feel like we're gonna have a better year than last year.

00:41:40
Speaker 1: But we need to tell you I think the national media, the national football casual fan, is sleeping on the talent that the Titans can put out there, not in a way that they win the division, but I think that they're spicy. I think that they can be spicy as long as they stay healthy. In fact, they got an O line that's humming a little bit better than either obviously had a lot of money for you Off made a lot of money for up, but cam he it seems like everything he's been advertised. They got talent on the outside. They're gonna have a good defense again.

00:42:08
Speaker 5: That that's where I worry about that. I think I think their back end, they have very little depth right back the other corner. I think it's a little up and down Hooker. I think Titan fans are back and forth on Hooker a little bit about like is he the guy? Is he's not the guy?

00:42:25
Speaker 1: Well, last year they've played good enough to win a lot of games. Yeah, linebacker's got stronger. You're you're you need somebody to rush the quarterback? Yeah yeah, yea Ard and Key you lost Harold Landry obviously, Jeff Simmons an episoute monster to and Andre Sweat. He's solid. But it's like who's your bed, because they'll cleft They're gonna colefs the pocket, but they're gonna be taking up the doubles and you need the guys in the one right on the outside, right.

00:42:51
Speaker 5: Yeah, And if you just have if you don't have somebody that can put pressure on the outside of the offensive line, that's gonna be very difficult because you can put as much pressure up the mill as you want. If you don't have somebody to clean up as this quarterback scrambling out, you're gonna run into a lot of issues. So I think they'll be better than were last year. I think we're gonna see from cam Ward. We're gonna see a guy that doesn't make the same mistake twice. You're gonna see a guy that makes a couple of throws. You're like, holy shit, he's the guy. But at the end of the day, he's also a rookie. Like he's a rookie, He's gonna make rookie mistakes. One thing that I've learned that I've talked to a couple of people inside that building is he's he's a guy that when he makes that mistake, you don't see that mistake again, which is huge, huge for the brand. Keeping him up right. He doesn't seem like a guy that's gonna fall into the tank if he doesn't have a couple of good weeks. So future wise, I feel really good about it. This year is one of those we'll see's big We'll see this year.

00:43:40
Speaker 10: Yeah, do you go get Trey hendricks from Cincy Hendrickson?

00:43:45
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you could. I think they have the capital. They do have the capital. It's a lot of money. It's a lot of money. What year is Trey in?

00:43:56
Speaker 1: Don't off the top?

00:43:57
Speaker 7: Were talks, but Terry mca Orange just turned a three year ninety six million.

00:44:02
Speaker 5: Oh, let's go turn the corn. That's big for the Commanders, big.

00:44:07
Speaker 1: Yeah.

00:44:08
Speaker 5: I mean they get ready, they get read of their running back. They trade their running back to the forty Niners. Yeah, so good move for the Niners.

00:44:16
Speaker 1: I feel like the Niners really got some some upside with that because you just don't know the health of who's the backup to Christian say they get mitched, Yes, Grinda, both guys that were on the injury report a few times last year. But I just think Brian Robinson's just started stut may. They got they got good depth, yes, very physical inside the tackles.

00:44:38
Speaker 10: Because now you can put it now you can put Christian like in that Deebo kind of spot, you know, bounce him outside, put b Rob in.

00:44:45
Speaker 1: The backfield right to where they're both, push them out like Christian running underneath.

00:44:49
Speaker 10: You got options. Yeah, Eckler, you got Eckler, but they got they drafted somebody who they can.

00:44:57
Speaker 1: You moved their depth chart, sure, command they went and paid some money for Tunssel, right.

00:45:05
Speaker 5: They Yeah, they traded.

00:45:08
Speaker 9: Von Miller.

00:45:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they listen von Miller the team.

00:45:12
Speaker 5: Von Miller had six six sacks and fourteen games.

00:45:14
Speaker 1: But for Washington, again the worst run defense in the NFL. For them, it's just going to be stopping the run if they're going to close the gap in the NFC.

00:45:23
Speaker 5: They got Jeremy McNichols. Can't kill McNichols can't kill them boys.

00:45:29
Speaker 1: Damn.

00:45:31
Speaker 5: He might do a little something this year. Eckler, I backfield savvy, smart, uh Deebo.

00:45:39
Speaker 1: Yeah.

00:45:39
Speaker 5: I think that Lammy Tunzel trade is going to be massive for them. That is such a huge win for the Commanders.

00:45:45
Speaker 1: They got a McCaffrey, Luke McCaffrey. Yeah, kJ Osborne with some death Commanders will be tough this year.

00:45:51
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean good for Terry. Also, I know there was a lot of back and forth between the franchise and him this offseason getting that big deal. That's big time. Yeah, yeah, you got you gotta have that football. We're here, We're here, it's here. Boys, gotta juicy.

00:46:07
Speaker 1: What do you think is gonna happen with Michael Parsons and the Cowboys?

00:46:11
Speaker 5: You gotta trade them?

00:46:13
Speaker 10: If y'all watch the Cowboys documentary.

00:46:14
Speaker 1: I haven't watched the documentary, but I've been consuming because Jerry Jones has been doing a little it's a little pressed tour talking about the negotiations basically and just posturing up letting him know. I mean, we got him for three more years. I hope you guys keep talking about much how great Michael Parsons is because we love him here and if you guys can see the contract we offered him. Basically, shitting on the agent of Michael Parsons for stepping in the documentary is unreal. It's very very Yeah, buddy, I can't wait to consume because it's all this is like my time, so like learning about it. Yeah, it's sick. Yeah, this was my squad until I got to Washington, Dallas, Cowboys nineties. Yeah, it's it's very, very well done.

00:46:56
Speaker 5: As soon as you want about Jerry Jones or how he's operating, that star on the helmet is different.

00:47:00
Speaker 1: I enjoy seeing him speak so much, like on the topic of the negotiation with Michael Parsons, because I just feel like Jerry Jones loves the game, he loves the game of business, loves the Cowboys.

00:47:14
Speaker 5: Yeah, you gotta have Michael Parsons on the field though, And I feel like Mike, Mike is a prideful guy that I'll be like, all right, fuck you, I'm not playing then.

00:47:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, which I think Jerry also kind of kind of enjoyed. He likes, he likes he likes to see a little bagbone from He likes to see a little song and dance.

00:47:29
Speaker 10: They had the same situation with Emmitt Smith. Just learned this in the documentary.

00:47:35
Speaker 5: Really he was holding out as well.

00:47:37
Speaker 1: He held at like two games.

00:47:38
Speaker 10: They lost the first two games, came back, he had like four touchdowns and then they like went onto the Super Bowl.

00:47:46
Speaker 2: Yeah.

00:47:46
Speaker 1: Drama keeps them young. Yeah, and it's been it's been interesting.

00:47:51
Speaker 5: I have no clue that this year, if you're Titans.

00:47:54
Speaker 10: That's what I'm saying either one of them.

00:47:57
Speaker 5: Yeah, Trey is. He's such a unique rusher though, because he's not overly fast. He does a great job of getting around the edge somehow, He's much more of a power rusher. He's savvy, plays the game very what's the word I'm looking for, Like sound. He's very sound in the run game like. He does a great job. Michael Parts is one of those guys you kind of just go, hey, Will linebacker, Sam linebacker, You guys gotta watch it he does and cover up, cover his ass up. He's gonna go make some places for yeah, go fuck up that party. And he's much younger. I mean trade. Trade has been in the game for a little bit, so, I mean both of them would help your defense in a big way. Go get both of them.

00:48:36
Speaker 1: Go get both of them.

00:48:40
Speaker 5: Now, you just changed the entire season. It doesn't matter how your back end looks like, you're not getting the ball off. You're not getting the ball off of that.

00:48:51
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00:50:25
Speaker 5: Okay, let's start there. Let's start there's I'm just saying that is I don't know if you are a Browns fan who believes that the offensive line look at it like this is remember the Titans and the guards just kind of like being a revolving door. That is the dumbest fucking thing if you will ever hear. Yeah, you have guys that are also getting paid. They also want to make the team.

00:50:45
Speaker 1: There you're telling yeah, you're telling me that there's five guys on the third string. If I go back to my rookie year, five Willy c type mentalities out there, being like, oh I'm not gonna block.

00:50:57
Speaker 5: For this, dude, fight for your life. I mean, you keep nine offensive linemen and you're the third string, you're the bottom, you know, fifteen guys. Yeah, and they're gonna be like, hey, go ahead and want shaders out there. Maybe just let it go a little bit. Yeah, because you got thirty one other teams. Most of those guys are gonna cut. You have thirty one other teams that are evaluating you as well. Maybe your a pea squad guy. Maybe you're good enough to be another team and be like Cleeveland Brown's offense is that good. There is not a fucking chance in hell that someone is making a decision to not block for somebody because they will lose their job. That is so dumb. And if you draft a guy, it's like, yeah, you put yourself in a peculiar situation with Gabriel, with Flacco being older, pick it like you've got four quarterbacks and you're like, here it is. We have a very unique situation. Also, Joshaun Deshaun Watson, he's putting out film of him being ready to throw again. He's got guaranteed too hundred sixteen million.

00:51:47
Speaker 1: Most interesting quarterback room in the world right now.

00:51:50
Speaker 5: But there's no way that the Browns are sitting there being like, I know we don't ever make the playoffs and we have a great defense, but we still can't get over the hump from an office perspective, But let's take the time to ruin this young man's career.

00:52:05
Speaker 1: Where I will where I will fodder while throwing some some fish food is I was listening to T J. Hushman Zada and chatout Yo Sinko break it down, and hushman Zada had a good point like, if you're if you're in a tight race, compete for the threes and you kind of know what your roster is gonna look like, why in that last game would you not give them equal opportunity versus Dylan Gabril playing Did he play the first half and then she played the second half? Like why not go a couple, you know, couple drives at a time, kind of give them equal opportunity and let it play out, versus you know you're you're just you're putting shadder out there with all the bottom roster guys and then also removing him from a two minute drill where you could learn a little bit more about him when you know Huntley's not going to be on the roster the next day. That's the only one I can sit there and be like, oh, I can understand that perspective. Totally. But if you're going then if I challenge that and then go complete business perspective of the front office of everybody else, and you want to be proven right about taking Dylan gar like Dylan Gabriel is a third round pick to should hear and be in fifth Like, yeah, that's a couple of rounds. But still if you want this quarterback that he's gonna potentially be the future of the Browns, you want him to be in the best situation possible, So a place out that way, and that's just you know, as my man on Bruce L. Mighty would say, that's how the cookie crumbles, because when you are a bottom roster type guy, you're not going to be in the perfect situations. It's going to be you have your opportunity, nobody cares worre harder, like nobody's coming to save you. You're going to be on your own island trying to create your own opportunities and the chances that you do have. I thought dan Orlowski did a good job breaking down Shoulder's game on actually talking football, how he's drifted in the pocket, doing some things that were question marks of him coming out of college. Actually talking football but again, when you are a lower round pickcorn undrafted guy, I'm telling you right now, there is no chance for the staff and everybody's thinking, how do we set up this lower round Are this undrafted guy for success? Nobody's think of that. It's it's make your own way when you get to the fucking NFL.

00:54:04
Speaker 5: I don't disagree. You said a lot of words there. Let's try to break it down one by one. Why do you play one quarterback for a first half and the other quarterback for the whole second half. My answer to that is, when you're looking at a quarterback and the praut they put on the field, it's not one drive that's going to define them in that game. It's the consistency of having them in. How are they operating when they make the operation, How do they when they make the mistake the next series? How do they operate? How are they handling themselves when they have down, how they bring themselves back up when they're up. How they keep that consistency. So I think that's the reason why you play one guy for a chuck of time and the other guy for a different chuck of time.

00:54:36
Speaker 1: And Dylan didn't play in the first game right, he did not hit a hand shot.

00:54:40
Speaker 5: So Huntley taking over a two minute drill and taking Chador out. The logic in that is, you know that Tyler Huntley is not going to be on your team. This is the last preseason game of the year. This is where teams would go, we need this guy. We should give this guy a look as a tip of the cap to be like, hey, he's still a viable option. He keep trying to keep his dreams alive. We've kind of made our decision. Let's get this guy out there. So there's thirty one other teams that might want to bring him in as a third quarterback.

00:55:03
Speaker 1: And I love that thought because it's we know, we know Shadur is going to be on the squad, we know we trust him in a two minute drill. And if you flip it to setting up somebody else for hey, he's not gonna be on the squad, he can have some tape before he goes out to the open market.

00:55:17
Speaker 5: Yeah.

00:55:18
Speaker 1: I like that thought of, hey, let's rip him out there for a two minute drill.

00:55:21
Speaker 5: People are scratching and calling for an answer about these two quarterbacks, Gabriel and Sanders. You want the answer you don't get the answer. Time is what's going to give you the answer. Joe Flyhood goes down, who's gonna go in? Kenny Picktt's gonna go in. Let's say he goes down or he starts not playing very well. The next person that's going to go in is Dylan. All Right, that's how it's going to be. He's a third round pick. He's going to get the nod before Sanders. That is the answer. It's not because there's a conspiracy. Dion has said all these things and boasted his kids up. That is what is going to happen.

00:55:52
Speaker 1: Because Dylan has operated well enough in training camp that hey, we're gonna roll him out there.

00:55:56
Speaker 5: Right and a third round you're being like, oh, it's only two rounds. It's a big fucking those two rounds. That first three rounds are guys that you know are guaranteed to make your spot. Guaranteed is such a relative term, but for the most part, your three first three rounds, those guys are almost guaranteed a roster spot unless they fuck up in a big way. After you get past the third round, that's when question marks. The farther you get towards that seventh and undrafted, the less guarantee or chance you have of actually making the roster, you have to do something. Shadiri Sanders is a talent, there's no doubt about it. But to say that they are not setting up for success is such a fucking lie. It's not real. It's this is how.

00:56:32
Speaker 1: Success.

00:56:33
Speaker 5: It's we're trying to set up the team for success. You're trying to make sure the Cleveland Browns are the best team they can possibly be. If Shador is that answer, we will find that out in the future. But our job is not to coddle and make sure that this kid gets the reps. So we can say he's a finished product now, or he's not and we get rid of him, or we make him the starting role player. That's an answer that the fun media wants and the fans want to know, but it's not the best thing for your franchise. So that is it's so over drawn and ridiculous. And you see how over drawn ridiculous it is by the way Shoulder is being asked questions and the way he's being clickbit. I thought you did a great job with the obviously quote, and you're like, here's the clip for context. I think that is a good job being for the boys a massive you know, that's the foundation of this show. I being like there, everyone's trying to give a should or a gotcha moment and you being like, no, no, no, here's the context of anything that's going on. You got to watch out for the smoking mirrors.

00:57:22
Speaker 1: Because everybody wants is such an easy grab that everybody it's they're so drawn to this story of Shader Sanders and it's like, I'm in boat, Like to me, it's the ball. It's like when everybody's bitching and complaining saying they're intentionally setting him up not to fail. I'm just thinking, dude, he's a fifth round pick. He's handled himself very well. But it's like, man, you're not going to have all of the best opportunities. Like that's just reality. That's real everybody everywhere, And it's and then when you go with this with these grabs of these media accounts, it's like should he asked if he like belongs or I forget what it was, And then they just use the one word. Obviously they know that that's going to fodder the basis of lookout and he is everything else without even looking into anything. They just read that and think that and it's like you see it there When Should has it, he like grins and smiles. He's like, I know what you're trying to do, but obviously I feel like, yeah, everybody.

00:58:10
Speaker 5: In this lot, paster, they should ask all ninety four guys on that roster, do you think he belonged. No one's gonna be like, no, yeah, I think I think my dream's over and I think I'm actually not built for this NFL thing. Even if you are having question marks about your talent level, you faking it to you make it. No guy's gonna sit there and be like, I'm not good enough to play in the NFL. It's the same thing as a couple of weeks ago. They have their reporter that keeps shorting bad things about Shoulder. It's like Should Sanders confronts reporter and you watch the video and he smiled like, Hey, you're gonna write some good things about me?

00:58:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, like you're gonna do.

00:58:41
Speaker 5: It's like you have to tip your if you are a Shugar Sanders hater, you gotta tip your cap to the way he's handled this This kid no disrespect? Is that a silver spoon? Shove so far up his ass his entire life. His dad is Dean Sanders, his dad is Prime Time. He has been in the spotlight, he's been in reality TV shows. He has been probably given a little bit more than he should have in college. Go back to his jersey retirement thing. I think we can all agree that, and Shane actually put it the best at the SP's of being like whatever his record is and winning the alimbule or losing the alimable, whatever it was, that probably doesn't get you a jersey retirement in your college. However, he's been punching the face from following on the draft as far as he can. People hating on him, hating on this much, and he still continues to have a smile on his face and works his ass off. For me, I've seen enough. I need to see a bush or I'm I'm bought in, and I hope he has success. But it's like to go and try to grab all these things. It's just while his brother, on the other hand, I'm sure he's a great kid. I'm sure he's fantastic. But if you're an undrafted cat and you're swinging on guys in the last preseason game, you are going to get cut. There's there is no offense or butts you. I was a first round draft pick. I could almost murder somebody, and I'm probably going to be on the team for the year. That's the reality of the NFL we're dealing with. When you're undrafted, you have to do everything right. You have to be on time every single time. You can't be getting in fights, and you have to show sparks where they're like, wait, who's this kid over here. I could fuck around my first year of camp and act like an idiot, and they're gonna be like, give them time, let him mature, he's a talent, blah blah blah blah, all those things. If you're undrafted, Shiloh said, you cannot be swinging on a tight end. That's just it's an unforgivable move. It's dumb, and it might have hurt you from getting into another team.

01:00:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, you get caught up in the moment there for sure. But yeah, I mean you said that, I got I got no notes. You're right, you got to do everything right, like do everything on you have no you don't have nine lives, you don't have any extra lives like you've got to be somebody. That's where it's like, oh, hey, he's pretty good. Does he know the playbook? Is he serviceable on special teams that do you do all the things right? That's where you set yourself up for the best chance. To me, what's the saddest about this whole thing is not even about Shoulder. It's not about Shiloh. It's about how everybody else feels about fans that are on the other side, that are arguing on fucking social media about the whole thing. Because if you the way you put it, it's like, if you watch the body of work Shader has put out there since he's gotten into the NFL, since he's gotten into the training camp, the way he's handled interviews, everything he knows he's got to put his head down to work and he has done that. Yeah, I think he's gonna continue to get opportunities. But for everybody to make it it's just it. Surely crowds arguing gets crowds. It's not even about the actual player. Yeah, people being upset about you know, it feels like a politicized fucking thing.

01:01:25
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's too much. I mean, we're I mean, we're the headlines and the fun storylines are about to start coming out where we can all kind of grasp something. Is this team good or this team's fumbling at all? We're gonna have all those things July August. Everyone's looking for a story. Every media outlet is trying to do it. You'll watch Kim Wore podcast. What do I ask? I ask about Shadarra Sanders?

01:01:44
Speaker 1: Why?

01:01:45
Speaker 5: Because I know you you guys are gonna go and be like, oh wait, let's go look at that clip. Yeah, we all fucking do it. But it's like, now we're getting a real football where the real shit that actually matters in that world is gonna happen. Yeah, you're gonna be good this year or you're not gonna be good this year.

01:01:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking, I don't speaking a good highlights of storylines. We will be doing a watch party October fifth at the Brooklyn Blow Brooklyn Bowl watch party with the Titans October.

01:02:10
Speaker 5: Fifth, October fifth, Goody.

01:02:12
Speaker 1: What you can look forward to is the merch drop that's happening as you're watching this episode bwtv dot com. All the gear you're seeing the boys rocking right now. If we die, we die. We got Nebraska merch. We got Michigan merch. We got a plethora of new merch in the store that just dropped. These hats that you're looking at right now, a lot of different stuff that is on bwtv dot com. We're also again tailgate announcement the Boys. As you know, we're doing a live show Lincoln, Nebraska at the Rococo Theater on September nineteenth, before the prestigious Busting Bowl. We will also be doing a Busting Bowl tailgate on Saturday morning. Saturday Morning and Lincoln, Nebraska. Tune into the locker room on Wednesday for another special announcement involving the bust and Bowl. But we will be releasing those details as we get them. So again live show, tailgate, bwtv dot com have some fun.

01:03:02
Speaker 5: Also, big shout out to Nebraska and Michigan for allowing us to use their licensing. I know that's the thing that people don't really talk about a whole lot, but to have the end Nebraska go Big Red, if we die, we die, To have all that on one shirt takes a lot of work. Also, shout out g for working through that process.

01:03:18
Speaker 1: Michigan.

01:03:19
Speaker 5: The go Blue Hitdle the Victors Michigan, the winged helmet, all of it. We have had to work with them. They have allowed us to use this licensing to have it's like custom Bustle with the boys. Merchant got the logos on the fucking hats. I mean, buddy, this is it's a special year body BWTV dot com New Merch dalk tomorrow. I think I think the quote by Garrett was optimism. Let's hope that merch comes in so we could promote it. So, if you haven't seen a promotion on the New Merch, it hasn't come in. But if you did, hey, go ahead check because it's out there. WTV dot com.

01:03:53
Speaker 10: Hey and take it to the live show. Are going fast. You don't wanna You don't want to miss a live show.

01:03:58
Speaker 5: Oh we're cooking right now.

01:03:59
Speaker 1: Huh yeah. I think it's going to beat week.

01:04:01
Speaker 5: There's another big announcement about the live show. Tune into the locker Room Wednesday, six pm. That's the college football edition. Correct, big announcement specifically around Busting Bull and the live show. We'll leave it at that. We'll leave it at that, but not me. You might want to call and check in on that. Let's talk about would you let.

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01:05:04
Speaker 1: Spicy, spicy road Tier Talk.

01:05:07
Speaker 5: The category for today's Road Tier Talk is role play.

01:05:13
Speaker 1: Can I be honest?

01:05:14
Speaker 7: Hand up?

01:05:14
Speaker 1: Can I be honest?

01:05:15
Speaker 5: Can I just get on guy to say something?

01:05:16
Speaker 2: You?

01:05:17
Speaker 5: Can I say that?

01:05:17
Speaker 1: Guy?

01:05:18
Speaker 5: Just want to pitch my wagon to you. Whatever you're about to say, I'm probably the same.

01:05:21
Speaker 1: Okay, go ahead. Not a deep bag, really not a bag at all when it comes to role play. Same. I've flirted with it, you know, you fantasize about the role play stuff, and you know I've had a situation or two and it's just I get awkward. I am I can't deliver.

01:05:39
Speaker 11: I know.

01:05:40
Speaker 5: To me, it's like, you're just excited what happens anyway you want me to put Like I feel like when you're putting an expectation on it and then you go when you put the clothes on or whatever is it chop for I'd like to.

01:05:53
Speaker 1: Stories with Taylor as far as it goes, is wife. You might be thrown on some lingerie, but I'm sitting there silent, like, oh you look good.

01:06:00
Speaker 7: Yeah.

01:06:01
Speaker 5: It's a heavy breathing because you know, once that blood flow goes from your brain down below, there's not a whole lot of I can't do a whole lot with myself, you know. I will.

01:06:13
Speaker 1: Sitting on the edge of the bed and you just.

01:06:18
Speaker 5: Leaned up like this. He's kind of like just h He's like fighting for his life to get his head out, you love water ready for this? Maybe because we are not well versed in this, we create our tier talk together. It's just a thought. It's a brainstorm. No bad ideas in a brainstorm. How do you feel about that?

01:06:33
Speaker 2: I'm with it.

01:06:34
Speaker 5: Okay, let's do that. Let's do that. I'm gonna go this. Probably this would be my Tier one something about a massage table. So you know what I'm saying.

01:06:44
Speaker 1: Are we talking massage table like about.

01:06:47
Speaker 5: You know, I honestly Tailor's family watches this show, so I'm trying to be as respectful as possible, especially a greppl Win. But it's like the idea this hasn't happened, the idea of you know, are we talking with Robert Kraft type of situation you get, you know, get a massage, laying down, towel, the whole the whole kit boodle. What's happened? I no idea this is happening, and then it happens.

01:07:10
Speaker 1: Are we talking massage table like on the show Dave where he's getting milked in the garage?

01:07:16
Speaker 5: That's maybe sure, go ahead throw that one in there. Two three, I.

01:07:23
Speaker 1: Don't know if I'm thinking anything. It's like you just get no do we call this one a gap? And like, you know, Charlie walks in the room. She's got a helmet on. She's got a Nebraska helmet on, and hey, Sweeter, we're playing a gap ton. She comes in and I got the I got the full suit on, an I tackler and you know how they go to where they roll around and they're starting to get up off the field. She rolls around. We end up in doggy style and we just called that. We're a gapping the night, sweetheart, and she just keeps the helmet on.

01:07:53
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

01:07:54
Speaker 1: Hey, because we're both uncomfortable with you, I'm with you, or get her head set on. Maybe she plays Dana Hoole Ogerson whereas a boys that she's got a Nebraska jersey and she's got the head. We're in a two minutes real, sweetheart, get me going give she starts.

01:08:07
Speaker 5: You guys win the game. You're in the locker room after and like, hey, you called the hell of a game. You called the hell of a game.

01:08:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, she calls the game and the commentator touchdown. We start jumping, hugging, and then we just starting She's.

01:08:18
Speaker 5: Sitting there, she just starts. She got the towel over her shoulders and sitting there. Don't you hear the door open and close behind her? Call it a good game today? She looks back. You think so, I think a lot of things, and then all of a sudden, stuffing starts going down a little bit. Yes, sweetheart, sure what do you got? Let's you tear one would be fantastic at role play.

01:08:42
Speaker 12: Yeah, now, now I kind of want to answer it seriously. I was going to say pick six, that the Holiday Ball would be pretty good.

01:08:50
Speaker 1: The big another willie Ce like, I just roll the decks, have a playbook of a fantasies I gotta play out? Yeah, my best please, yeah, just starting after I go just damn shut up the row.

01:09:00
Speaker 12: I just I love so many movies I would want to do like some kind of movie scene, some kind of movie characters.

01:09:06
Speaker 1: Oh how war to the rint?

01:09:08
Speaker 12: If I'm aer Gorn, she's u awin. That's game over, dude, I have How.

01:09:13
Speaker 1: Would you handle being a like a teacher substitute teaching?

01:09:17
Speaker 5: Why don't you guys try a little something real quick?

01:09:20
Speaker 1: See now I get uncomfortable. I'm gonna be Jill.

01:09:24
Speaker 12: Yeah you would you could crush it. And I'm the substitute.

01:09:27
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're the substitute.

01:09:28
Speaker 12: Okay, all right, class everybody. Uh, let's get our pencils and papers out. It's quiet down.

01:09:35
Speaker 1: Oh you right there in the front row.

01:09:37
Speaker 7: You had a question.

01:09:38
Speaker 1: Yeah we will, mister Young. What will we be learning today? You can just call me.

01:09:43
Speaker 12: You can just call me Sherman. Mister Young's my father.

01:09:46
Speaker 7: Uh.

01:09:47
Speaker 12: Today we're gonna be studying anatomy. You know what anatomy is?

01:09:54
Speaker 1: Jill? Will you teach me what anatomy is?

01:09:57
Speaker 12: You absolutely, that's the study of the hu and body. Would you want to come up and I can demonstrate something in front of the class.

01:10:04
Speaker 1: Oh, I wouldn't mind that. Mister Young. You're looking real burly today. Taking your shirt off and I can explore your anatomy.

01:10:12
Speaker 12: Hold on, settled down? Sounds like you need a little private tutoring after class.

01:10:17
Speaker 1: Oops. Classes over, mister Young, it's just me all alone.

01:10:23
Speaker 12: Being the bell rings, everybody clears out. I'd probably take you.

01:10:29
Speaker 1: You're somebody who likes to take charge.

01:10:32
Speaker 12: I sure do, Jill. Uh And, and you've been misbehaving in my class. I don't know if we can have that anymore.

01:10:41
Speaker 1: Are you gonna punish me, mister young, I.

01:10:44
Speaker 12: Might just have to get over here, you scoundrel.

01:10:51
Speaker 5: All right, good job that was that was good. That's solid.

01:10:54
Speaker 12: Yeah what you mean, that's that's hard.

01:10:57
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01:11:05
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01:11:12
Speaker 1: You're on spotify? Spotify right now, just hit that follow button. There's more to come from that, all right. So I feel like the women too. They want you to like take control. That's where it for me, it would get awkward. I'd kind of be like the way Sherm was where I just you keep throwing it back.

01:11:27
Speaker 5: Yeah. I always try to make jokes and then I was like, what are you doing?

01:11:30
Speaker 9: Go back?

01:11:30
Speaker 5: And then yeah, laughter is the way to your heart, right, and then it.

01:11:34
Speaker 1: Just you know, Spicy wrote you. I hope they got everybody horned down on average.

01:11:45
Speaker 5: All right, we feel good? Yeah, fun, get that out of here.

01:11:49
Speaker 11: Huh.

01:11:50
Speaker 5: I think we all made a break.

01:11:51
Speaker 1: I feel I feel about the way I do. If we were to do like a little role play at the house.

01:11:56
Speaker 2: All right.

01:11:57
Speaker 5: This episode cam Ward first overall picked by Tansey Tyans in this past draft. A lot of exciting stuff. First, first interview, I think he's done. First long form interview he has ever done. I had him Tyler Lockett, the Boy of the Biscuit, Corey Levin on there. I think everybody who is a fan of football will enjoy listening to these three talk. Three very different personalities, all three play for the same team. Big hugs, tiny kisses. Let's enjoy this episode.

01:12:24
Speaker 1: I love thinking that the Titans fans tuning in that they just got to hear that before we.

01:12:29
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01:13:09
Speaker 11: It really difficult for him. I try to get here here very day. Yeah, somebody got to do it, you know. On the team, I think the players don't do it enough. I mean, Puff is a cool guy. I mean he's someone that like being around. I'm glad he's doing our our operation here. He tried to make me do much more than I really want to do. Yeah, so you know, I'm trying to put my foot down on him. But I mean I like Puff, I'm glad he with us.

01:13:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt.

01:13:34
Speaker 5: It's got to be. It's got to be tough you coming to this media market. Everybody wants a piece of you, and really, at the end of the day, like you're quoted having endless quotes of just being like, I am so focused on football. All I want to do is focus on football. So for you to sit and take the time.

01:13:46
Speaker 1: I do appreciate it appreciation. What's the learning curve been like for you going from college to the NFL. How do you feel like you've handled it personally? You have quotes out there, waking up before thirty, getting to getting to the facility early, Like, what has the process been like for you? Retaining the offense and just finding your own ways to learn through it.

01:14:07
Speaker 11: I think the biggest learning curve was I would say the time and the terminology of the NFL. And I just think it's different from college because there's more communication in certain plays, maybe sometimes over communicating a certain plays, but it all comes down to each word means something for everybody. In college, we can have one word and everybody know what to do. So I think that's the biggest learning curveage just learning that but also making it make sense in your mind, getting reps at home on a VR that we have here. And then I'll say the biggest thing was saying the play call for me and I did it my last year Miami, saying a play call, huddling up, but just how the play call is, how long, how worthy they can get. It's just very different in college.

01:15:02
Speaker 1: Your study habits have to be good, like even on your own at home, because there's it's like you hear stories about you. You could be talking shit with the defender and coaches and you're giving you the play call and you're retaining the entire play call and going out and executing. I feel like that's very impressive for a young age and a first year quarterback. So you're is there anything creatively that you're doing at home that is that you feel like people might not know on going You have the VR stuff here. Anybody quizzing you, like, what is your style of studying when you're by yourself.

01:15:34
Speaker 11: I say, everyway, my style from watching it on tape to because on table it will show you the play call as well. And then I'll say the biggest thing I have just whoever I'm with, even with Strepo, like he would be up here with me, some of the other receivers, they would read the play to me and I'll tell them only read it once, so I got to remember it the first time. Because whether who's calling their practice, Coach Nick or coach Klah, I always read it twice. But I think just having to hear from somebody whoever I'm around and then saying it again. I think that's the biggest way I learned to just spit out the play call fast and then just get rolling.

01:16:12
Speaker 5: I heard an interesting story about you when you went to first gout to Miami. I don't know who it was, but they talked about it was like the first two or three days you were there, and they were there to watch practice, see how spring ball was going, and you were essentially motherfucking the team on how we're not good enough, we got to be better. And it's like your second third day in the building. Now I'm seeing photos of you standing up in front of the team of tessee Titans talk to you about your leadership mentality. And then when you walk into an NFL program seeing guys that are in year ten, you're eight nine, like guys who have families and kids, and you're a young cat who's coming as a first overall pick, putting yourself in a leadership category with this team.

01:16:49
Speaker 11: I was just thinking more about learning your teammates. As a quarterback, you always going to be the leader, no matter if you want the job or you don't want the job. It comes with the territory. So I think young quarterbacks got to understand that, and I understood that, I would say as soon as I got to college, and just being able to be in the locker room with vents. They also helped me on becoming a better leader, knowing how to interpret my words to the guys. They also just being around the older coaches and the building Coach Bush and Coach Rocker. I think those two guys they sat me down and they also helped me, you know, be a better leader just every day, just trying not to I would say, over communicate, but get the things that we really need to get done. And that just all comes with work ethic end. I think, just the grit that you want to have. Like in Miami, we were a very talented, talented team last year, but when I first got there, we weren't there mentally. So I tried to get guys there mentally because the end the day, I say, at least eighty percent of the game is mental. Yeah, you gotta have some physical, you know, attributes to play the game, but you got to have a mental attribute as well. And just for here, I think just all about playing together. I think we've got a great group group of guys in the locker room. We're unselfished group, and I think the best that we have in Jeff Coandre, Tona Calvin, like they've helped me just in this short amount of time, you know, get to at least being able to play at a high level. I know, I got a lot of work to do. I'm glad I got those guys.

01:18:17
Speaker 2: Boy me.

01:18:18
Speaker 1: You mentioned like stepping into college and understanding the role that you're playing leadership wise, and being the quarterback. Who's been your biggest influence in leadership? Because it is uncomfortable no matter how you spend it, the first time you're standing up and speaking to the team or stepping out of your comfort zone to be like, I'm gonna take on this responsibility. Who's been your biggest influence when it comes to leadership.

01:18:41
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say I had an influence on that.

01:18:45
Speaker 11: On being into leadership, I just always felt that I'm always saying what's on my mind, no matter how it comes out at any given moment. I just I'm gonna say what I feel. If it touches you a certain type of way, then it touch me.

01:19:00
Speaker 2: I could give. I don't care.

01:19:03
Speaker 1: So, but is that something you're observing from either your parents growing up, they created a space where you could have this confidence with yourself.

01:19:12
Speaker 11: Uh yeah, yeah, I would say that, especially growing up. My parents they real old school, so you know, they believe, they believe in whoopings, they believe in taking stuff away, So you ain't gonna get over on them, especially as a kid. Over time, you know, they got a little bit more leaning with me since I'm the I'm the youngest of the family, so I got a lot, I got a lot of way, you know, with a lot of stuff in my house. So I just think, you know, just it's it's a part of parduct of your environment. I think my parents raised me well, and you know, I think I think, you know, it shows in my leadership.

01:19:44
Speaker 5: There's a I mean, there's new era of college football or nil. Everyone's got money, everyone's making something, change cars, Like it's really like a mini NFL. At this point, you see a lot of guys allowing the distractions to overcome them. But you're a guy that consistently you see, whether it's some press conferences, that viral video of you and Shaudure sitting there and is like, hey, let's do let's do a song, and You're like I'm a football player. All people to know I'm a football player. At what point were you, like, were you not letting yourself be distracted by all the new shiny things. Obviously, you have one scholarship ball for coming out of high school, then you go to Washington State and end up in a place like Miami. There's a lot of opportunity there with you making money to be distracted. But you just seem like a guy that consistently is like the main thing is the main thing, that's all that matters is football.

01:20:31
Speaker 11: I just think that's how I always carried myself. Like even now, even after signing the field, I still don't have no crazy stuff. Eventually, I'm gonna get me some crazy stuff because I worked for I want eventually, but that's just never been my focus, you know, at that time. Right now, still on my face my focus, and I want to be known as a football player.

01:20:52
Speaker 2: At the end of the day.

01:20:53
Speaker 11: I just think, you know, that's what you know, at least, I was put on this earth for one thing to do is play football. I think I'm very good at it, and I just I just believe in just showing you know, my skill set and everything else. Take care of yourself.

01:21:08
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, why do you love football so much?

01:21:13
Speaker 11: I think I love it more now because it wasn't my first love. So every day I'm constantly learning something different, whether it's by myself, whether it's about what I need to get better at, or just in offense particular. I was a big time basketball player growing up. That's really all I want to do. And then, you know, just over time, football just became just better to me. The atmosphere around at the crowd around it, the enthusiasm everybody plays with, and I just think there's nothing in this world like football, nothing, no other sport can relate to it. And I really didn't start taking football serious until my senior year of high school. And I think just after that there wasn't a lot of kids, you know, who could throw football like me, and you know, I just took off and.

01:21:58
Speaker 2: Ran with it.

01:22:00
Speaker 1: Did you start picking up football because you're like, all right, basketball might not be working out for me at the next level.

01:22:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was sort of like that.

01:22:07
Speaker 11: I wasn't really getting no no offers, or wasn't hearing from those big time schools, you know, in basketball. I played football my whole life. My dad was a quarterback. He told me how to throw the football. But I was just so in love with basketball that I wanted to push it away. But then, you know, just over time, I just had to get back to it because I knew it was my opportunity to showcase my skills.

01:22:29
Speaker 1: After you get wild, yeah it is.

01:22:30
Speaker 5: After you get one offer, you end up going there for a year. What is take me through the transfer portal? Because Will and I were old, like there was no like anil if you transferred, you'd have to sit out for a year back when we played college. But like, what is that process like when you have to look at the team you're playing with me like, I'm out of here. I'm going to find a better opportunity for me in.

01:22:49
Speaker 2: My future transferport A while it.

01:22:53
Speaker 11: Was wild the first time I got in, and the second time got even worse, and it's just gonna continue to get worse and worse, and in regardless of why the person is transferring, I was transferring for a better opportunity. I played FCS for two seasons. I balled out both seasons. I just think it was ready for me to take that step. I wanted to go to a Power five. I couldn't do that out of high school. So when I got my opportunity, I would go. Then when I left Washington State, I did two years there. I really was just wanted to find a new place. I was gonna leave at the end of season, no matter what, whether it's gonna go to the draft or hit the portal. I already had my mind made up. And just going to Miami, I think just you know, just made everything come to light. But I just I really think the kid. It depends on why the kid is transferred. And majority of the kids who are transferring where they're getting a portal late or early, is because they're trying to get on the field. Because the end of the day, the goal is to try to get to the NFL, no matter how hard it is, no matter how you can get.

01:23:54
Speaker 2: It, that's the goal.

01:23:55
Speaker 11: And uh, half the kids, I would say three four kids are transferred because they need to see the field.

01:24:01
Speaker 2: That's the only way you can get to the NFL.

01:24:03
Speaker 11: And I think the NIL made it better, especially in not only quarterbacks but everybody because now like we can actually get paid for a job, like college football is a job, you have a way different schedule than a basketball player or you know, if it's a if it's a soccer player or in college or just a regular student college, Like, the job is actually different from early mornings to late nights. The fall camp is where the job really kicked. He into the season. So you know, I'm glad. I'm glad, you know I was able to get, you know, what I deserved in college. I'm glad the young guys that will continue to get what they deserve.

01:24:41
Speaker 5: You talked about every kid wants to go to the NFL, wants to go to the draft. In twenty twenty four, you declared for the NFL draft ended up going to Miami. Like, what was that process like where you're like, you know what, I Am going to take one more year and maybe get my draft stuck a little higher or whatever it is. Because you said, if the goal is the NFL Draft, and you send it that paper and they're like, oh, you could be whatever, first second, third round pick, it's like you're It's like they're basically saying you can achieve your goal right now. What was the reason to go to Miami.

01:25:07
Speaker 11: I think the reason going to Miami is I I love college football so much I didn't think I was ready, but also what they were telling me, I just thought it was bs. I got a chance to compete with some of the other guys you know, in camps in the draft class before, and I've just always thought I was better than those guys, and so going to Miami was easy for me. I knew in that situation I wanted to go somewhere where I wasn't part of a rebuild. They returned the whole receiving cord, the whole offensive line, they returned majority of the defense, and so really it was just plug and play for us the whole time I was there. Coach Dawson and myoci there. He's a spread he's a spread guy. He got a coach NFL guys and Geno Smith and Clayton too, so he has some experience with you know, NFL quarterbacks, and so I just think the the biggest thing for me going there was just being myself, and then it to me, here is also another opportunity to lead.

01:26:01
Speaker 2: Coach Chris of Ball. He gave me the keys to the kingdom there.

01:26:05
Speaker 11: He let me, you know, run the team how I thought it should be rare, but you know, we were able to get a couple of weirds out that season.

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01:26:52
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01:26:54
Speaker 1: You mentioned the NIL portal being wild. Is there a story you look back on as the wildest story your NIL portal days.

01:27:03
Speaker 2: For me?

01:27:04
Speaker 1: Or just yeah, or maybe something you witnessed.

01:27:09
Speaker 2: Something I witnessed.

01:27:12
Speaker 11: M I did see something it's about I was a part of it actually, when I was going to Miami and they wanted Jeremiah Smith and at the time I didn't know who he was. Because he was young and I'm trying to I'm trying to give me a place to play. And so they they told me to just look him up, watch him a little bit, and that boy a baller. Yeah, And so they gave me his phone number. I called him and I told him, like, I'm going to Miami. It was before like it went out, because I told him this maybe a week earlier before I told him. So I been knew where I was gonna go, but I'm always gonna do everything on my time. And so you know, I called him. You know, we chopped it up. He had to go to Ohio stay. I was I was gonna talty, but you know, I'm glad you went.

01:28:01
Speaker 1: Oh So, you guys are about to be a package deal. Like in your head, you're like, all right, i'm gonna call I'm gonna call up, I'm gonna call Jeremiah Smith, and I'm gonna let him know that I'm going to Miami. And in thinking that we're going to be aligned and both going together. When you're telling him, you're thinking, all right, he's probably gonna fall suit based on our relationship. So then when he chose Ohio State, you kind of felt.

01:28:28
Speaker 2: Nah, I wouldn't.

01:28:31
Speaker 11: I wouldn't say that because I already knew the offers he had. But I tried to get him there for for me, you know, a good pass catcher, but they already had good receivers there. So I mean, he's he's one of the best players to go out of high school. I think I think he made a great sas going to Hot State just because productively what they're doing in the receiving room there, he's gonna have a chance, you know, another year or two to be one of the best, you know, receivers to come.

01:29:01
Speaker 2: Out of there.

01:29:02
Speaker 5: Yeah, hardline too that. I mean he was a wide receiver. I think he's the OC now. Yeah he got like yeah, they just produced wide receivers all the time. Do you think you were close getting them? You got off that phone call and was there, It's.

01:29:13
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I was.

01:29:17
Speaker 11: I think if I would have committed earlier, I might have had a better chance to get him. But I just waited so long. I literally waited the last day. It's just he got he got you know, Dres too. He he got to make his decisions. I think I think I think if I would have you know, waited a little or did a little bit sooner.

01:29:35
Speaker 2: I think I had a better.

01:29:36
Speaker 1: Reflecting on his recruiting tactics, he's stopped dragging my feet. Yeah.

01:29:42
Speaker 5: If I would have just yeah, if I would just committed a little bit sooner, I could have had him. You talked about going to these camps and seeing these other quarterbacks and being like, I'm better than these cats. So before your your final year at Miami, there's a lot of conversations rolved around Seorge Sanders. He's the first overall pack. Obviously, you guys, I'm assuming you guys have a great relationship. Some of the clips you've seen and stuff like that. What what is it like for you to have like this rivalry with sh your door and have it play out the way it has.

01:30:12
Speaker 2: I don't have a rivalry rhythm. That's my boy.

01:30:16
Speaker 11: So at the end of the day, this whole process, we thought me and him were gonna be one to two the whole time, whether he's one two where don one he's two, and so that's just always been, you know, our mindset. It didn't go that way, but I mean, just coming out of college, even to the draft, I thought he was one of the better quarterbacks in the draft as well. Even throughout college, he's been productive. Where he's been every time we both started fcs. He was at you know, Jackson State. I was at Cardi Word and that's where really we met for the first time with our quarterback coach when we first got to college. And then he's always been, you know, just a great person to be around. A lot of stuff out there all him ain't really you know the truth, just because they spend it different ways, like they spend stuff about me different ways. But I mean I've always thought he was a productive quarterback. I mean a lot of people may have your own opinion. I have mine as well, But I mean when when he gets his chance, you know, to become a starter, I know he's gonna make the most of it. And you know, all ready to get back to back to work with him, you know after the season, you know, talk some more stuff to him, you know, say some crazy stuff. I mean, we just go keep on pushing each other.

01:31:26
Speaker 7: Uh.

01:31:26
Speaker 1: You talk about the media spinning things different ways. You're leaving halftime? Was getting spun a lot of different ways at the ball game in Miami? Was it always the plan you go out there? Was it were you going after the record, and then once you get the record, you were gonna shut it down. Was it just play one half of football? Was you try and get Miami out to the fastest start as possible, and you were gonna be done because obviously you have the net, you have your you have this career to think about next. But what what was the game plan going into that Bowl game? That was crazy because it got spun everywhere.

01:31:59
Speaker 2: I didn't even know how this.

01:32:00
Speaker 11: Stuff was going on until I said, maybe two hours after the game once I think my cousin sent me a text message or some because I really don't be checking my phone like that. And that's just always been, you know, a part of playing. After we lost to.

01:32:17
Speaker 1: Syracuse, by the way, crazy crazy, that was pain.

01:32:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, pain, So sorry.

01:32:26
Speaker 5: That's a full different conversation.

01:32:29
Speaker 11: But after after that meet coach Dunston and Chris Ball, we all had a conversation. They knew what I had, you know and storing the future, and they also want to you know, leave the program the right way, and I respected it for it. That's always been a plan for for me to play, you know, a half actually played, you know more than me and the OC had talked about and so I want to I want to get out of there when it was my time, at least up in the up in the game, we were up by I think three points, and then at the end of the time they were trying to find out who their quarterback was going to be for next year. They end up playing one of the young guys, so that I think that let them know that, you know, they want to go try to get a quarterback. They got to go win and Carson back. But I also think, you know, the guy who did play Emory, you know, he's a good quarterback, and after this year, you know, if it's Emmy time, I think he'll have a good a good year onces his turn.

01:33:22
Speaker 5: What is it like, like Will brought up the Syracuse twenty up by twenty one, when you when you're walking to a game in Miami and you're like, essentially have to put up forty first win and things are not going your way Sometimes, what is that conversation like from you to the defense or to the team when it's like, we're essentially wasting this offensive juggernaut that we have going on here because you did the your offense was crazy.

01:33:45
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think I think the end of the year, we played team ball really majority all the time. Like I can say the Virginia Tech game, I had two books and the defense they kept us in the game. The Georgia Tech game, we didn't have our best game offensively, and the defense did enough to keep us in the game, getting a two minute drive, and we didn't come through. In the Syracuse game, we didn't lift up the defense enough to be able to win that game and finish it out. So I just think a key times, you know, we didn't lock in and that that ended up results us not making the playoff. But I mean we had a good run.

01:34:27
Speaker 2: We had. I think.

01:34:30
Speaker 11: It was like five or six or seven, maybe seven of us that got drafted. So that's a good draft class for coach Chris of ball. All of us are good places that we want to be in. But I mean one of those we have a game like that when you up that much and then you just end up losing like that, That's that's something that you don't want to go through as a competitor.

01:34:50
Speaker 2: But end of the day, you gotta lose to win. That's how I think of it.

01:34:54
Speaker 11: And the guys who got drafted with all the good situations, and I believe that might even gonna be able to get some more d facing this next draft class.

01:35:01
Speaker 5: What uh, when did you know that the Tanser Titans is going to be your new home?

01:35:06
Speaker 1: I knew, Like when did you know? When did you think?

01:35:11
Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure this is gonna happen? And then when we're like, all right this, I know for sure now this is happening.

01:35:16
Speaker 2: I think honestly pro Day, I think PROD.

01:35:20
Speaker 1: We hear you, puff puff, don't worry like we see you back.

01:35:24
Speaker 5: He's enjoyed.

01:35:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, a meeting, this ship over work. This ain't my damn one. What you talking about? To check my one?

01:35:36
Speaker 5: And you're free to go whenever you'd like.

01:35:39
Speaker 1: I say, the last question, we're in the middle of the Titans question.

01:35:44
Speaker 5: You want to put the Titans?

01:35:47
Speaker 2: They did you put the camera?

01:35:51
Speaker 11: I would say I knew, at least in my mind pro Day after pro Day, because that was the first time to get to see me throw in person. And then because all the draft is you you got the idea where you're going. You see just stuff they put on TV out there in the media, but you don't know to your name get called. And so even like we was at the draft. They was on the clock. You know, they waited like two three minutes. I'm like, I'm like, what's going on, what's going on? And so they end were calling me, tell me that they're gonna take me, buty. I mean, that's that's an unbelievable sperience. I mean, it's something that you dream of every single day of your life. For me, I want to be a professional basketball player. But you know, I knew, you know, the chips won't fall my way, but they feel my way football. And so when you get a chance to be a pro is something you don't take it for granted. But I mean, that was that was an unbelievable moment, not only for myself, all the other draftees, no matter where you was first or seventh round, we all remember that. You know, I'm glad I'm here, you know, and not nowhere else.

01:36:52
Speaker 1: What what individual defensive player are you most excited to line up across from you know way to where it might be Oh fuck, that miscared about to try and get my ass. I would say like, oh that's pass Calvin. I can't wait to watch you work today.

01:37:09
Speaker 11: Individual, well, so I would say more d lineman because I'm not really going against the dB for every play. I'm going against the D lineman every play where they trying to sack me, press me, whatever. So D lineman I would easily have to say Max Crosby and Chris Jones, those two, those two of the best football players in the world, probably some of the grades of all times. So I'm trying to be up there. You know, eventually my when my time is done in the NFL. And you know, if you if you want to be up there with them guys, you know, you gotta be able to compete with those guys, and you gotta be a you know, say some crazy stuff to it.

01:37:51
Speaker 2: You gotta be able to get there to play your game.

01:37:54
Speaker 1: You have you have some crazy stuff that you say with the With Jeff Simmons in practice, there's always some you know, a fight broke out, cam Ward, Jeff Simmons, you haven't fun with the D line of the Tennessee Titans.

01:38:04
Speaker 2: I always have fun with those guys.

01:38:07
Speaker 7: Jeff.

01:38:07
Speaker 11: I think the sleeper is already key. That's my guy right there. Even James Lynch, I'll be resting with him.

01:38:15
Speaker 7: Bash.

01:38:16
Speaker 11: We we all be having to a blast out there, but I mean I'm ready. So you know, they think everything is sacked of practice. I'm telling them it's not a sack. So you know, if they ever get a chance to, you know, play me the game, they gonna find out.

01:38:29
Speaker 1: Yeah.

01:38:31
Speaker 5: But like questions, so anyone would do anything for an ice cold bud? Like, what is something that cam Ward would do anything for? Can't say family?

01:38:40
Speaker 2: Would I do anything for? Yeah, I would do anything.

01:38:46
Speaker 11: I'll probably say for football just from general. This is general, this tout football is. I don't know where I'd be without sports. That's why, you know, I think sports is one of the greatest thing because to teach you so much, whether you win or you lose, whether it's an individual or team sport, but especially for football. I mean it's crazy, how you know, just a little way, a little pisky can change your person's life forever. No matter what sport you play, Sports actually change your life, your family's life. But I think I think it teaches you more outside of just you know, giddy things that you want as well.

01:39:25
Speaker 1: Cam Ward, Hey, thank you man, It's it's been cool to watch them afar. I can tell that your parents did a good job. You speak on them. I love how you bring up examples of your dad and you can see quotes from your dad. You can tell your parents are proud and it fires me up. And thank you for your time, Bro.

01:39:40
Speaker 2: So I appreciate it.

01:39:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, appreciate you man.

01:39:41
Speaker 5: Thank you all the things he said, all things will says.

01:39:45
Speaker 2: Yes.

01:39:46
Speaker 5: Hold on, do you want to ask a question?

01:39:48
Speaker 2: Jack?

01:39:49
Speaker 10: Oh?

01:39:50
Speaker 1: Jack and Garrett.

01:39:51
Speaker 5: I've been Titans fans their entire life.

01:39:54
Speaker 1: Do you want to Jack?

01:39:55
Speaker 5: Get the microphone in camp and in a preseason who is shot to you the most on the new wide receiver Core.

01:40:03
Speaker 11: Mmm, there's not even a shock because I see it every day. I say, I say gutter he would have he.

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01:40:53
Speaker 2: Well, yours is for you?

01:40:53
Speaker 5: Eleven? Yeah, buddy, that's incredible.

01:40:57
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure.

01:40:58
Speaker 5: I mean, how does it feel to be playing eleven years in the NFL? Did you ever think that as a kid?

01:41:01
Speaker 2: No? I mean I just wanted to play eight.

01:41:04
Speaker 13: So I mean, right now, I'm just in overtime pretty much.

01:41:07
Speaker 5: So we're just bonus. We're in bonus hours right now. Go drinking the next time you wake up in the morning, You're like, I feel good.

01:41:13
Speaker 13: Yeah, it's a little it's different, you know, obviously, like your body changes and you got to be able to adapt all that different type of stuff. But for the most part, it's cool because I get to experience a different city, different coaches, different teammates rather than just being at the same place for so long.

01:41:28
Speaker 5: Why did you just like, where did eight come from?

01:41:32
Speaker 7: I just thought it was a good number.

01:41:34
Speaker 13: My dad played for seven, and then my uncle played for three, and so when people was just like, well, how long would you want to play. I was just like, I mean eight sounds yeah, eight sounds pretty both combined. Yeah, he beat me when it came to getting drafted. He got drafted in the second round and then I went in the third. But for the most part, though, I mean, I think it's been pretty cool. I think after eight like the more that I played each year, I was like, man, I want to play again, and I still got so much that I could be to get better at. And then even last year, when I looked at the film and I was watching myself throughout the season, I thought that I was still doing a lot of the same things that I was doing with getting open. It was just hard for the ball to find me with as many great players that we had. And so that's why I was like, well, I'm cool going into year eleven.

01:42:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, what were some of the best What were some of the best titbits of advice from your dad and uncle.

01:42:23
Speaker 13: I mean, they gave me a lot of advice. It just depends on the situation obviously. Like one of the things that I would talk to my dad about is just special teams. Like he was like, that's really the biggest part about being able to play early because a lot of times, if you're not first round or second round, you got to be able to earn your way to be able to play. And so when they drafted me up in Seattle, I was already gonna be a starter at punt return and kickoff return.

01:42:49
Speaker 7: It was more just my job to lose.

01:42:52
Speaker 13: And so the more that I was able to play and I showcased what I could do if they dressed four or they dressed five, I was also one of those people that were dressed and at that point it gave me the best shot to compete, to try to be within those first three receivers. So I think that was one of the biggest things my dad would always talk about. And then another thing he said was just don't worry about adjusting to them. Let them adjust to you within the coaches, because a lot of times they draft you because they loved what they.

01:43:20
Speaker 7: Saw when they watched you in college.

01:43:22
Speaker 13: And a lot of times when we get to the league, we start trying to change our game to how we think they want us to play. And he was like, just go out there and just do the same things that you were doing, and they'll, you know, kind of like work around you, and so that was really one of the biggest things.

01:43:37
Speaker 5: What is the biggest difference culture that you've seen between like the Tines in Seattle.

01:43:42
Speaker 13: I mean, I think it just depends on the head coach, because everybody's different, right, Like with Pete, it was come as you are, like, I'm not gonna tell you what you can and can't do, as long as it doesn't become a detriment to the team. There was a lot of like you had to be self aware and you had to be self motivated because we did things that was like in a competitive level, like shooting hoops and doing all these things, and people can have so much fun, but if you weren't doing the work, you weren't going to be on the team. And so he would he found ways to have fun but also to compete. And the people who couldn't do both of those were the ones that wouldn't make it because they just fell in love with the fun and they didn't fall in love with the competing aspect. And then you know when Mike came, Mike's more of like a military style coach, so kind of similar to when I was with Coach Snyder in college, and so like a lot of his stuff and how he goes about it is a lot different and it's a lot more like time consuming and a lot more work oriented. And then coming out here with Cali, it's like, I think it's kind of the best of both worlds because he's come from a lot of different places where you know, he's been within the Peyton Manning systems, he's been within Sensy and so kind of like understanding the new age of how to be able to tailor things to get the most out of your place. That's kind of like what Calie is starting to do here.

01:45:03
Speaker 1: You have a it sounds like you have a phenomenal head on your shoulders and somebody who is you you brought up the keyword being self aware. Like in the league, I have a couple of different questions, but when it comes to like you know your dad and uncle, I'm sure you've got a lot of different types of game, but you're you're you're known for like when you catch the ball, if you get close to a hit, you'll go to the ground. Like to me, I'm seeing that by the way, I'm seeing that as like you understand that your best abilities availability is probably a reason why you've lasted so long in the game. You're also somebody off the football field who optimized himself through poetry. You also have a real estate portfolio in Tulsa, so it seems like you've picked up a lot of things around the game too. How can I allow the game to work for me on the field and stay available at all times and allow the game to work for me off the field at all times. Was this something that you were aware and trying to jump into and be intentional about, like right out of the gate when you came into the NFL.

01:45:58
Speaker 13: I mean, well, I think football I's always been a stepping stone of like what you should be wanting to do whenever you're done. I think a lot of times what we do is we put ourselves in a difficult spot because as soon as we're done playing, then we want to start the next thing, and it's a lot more difficult because the fan bases start to leave because they start tailoring and going to different players. Then all of a sudden, maybe certain organizations may not help those players out as much because they were, like you, never took advantage of the opportunities in the stuff that they had that was there with the marketing, the branding and all that different type of stuff. And I think for me, the more that I've just played. Obviously, one of the coaches that I had in college, his name was Andre Coleman. He would talk about how like, man, look at Isaac Bruce and Tory Hunter, Tory Holt. I can't think of it right now. He was like, look at Tory Hold and Isaac Bruce, Like they catch the ball, they fall, and you know, they get what they can get and they live to play another play. And you know, even in college, I'll still catch the ball running. I wasn't falling as much unless it was like three or four people. But it's not until you experience like some of those gruesome injuries that make you start to reflect and do some of those things. So like in college, even my freshman year, I ended up having like a last rated kidney, and you know, I think I still scored, but it was just the fact that I was out like the last two games or whatnot, just because I had a lace rated kidney. And then all of a sudden when I got to the league, even though it was one of those freak incidents, I had caught a ball against the Cardinals, and then he landed on my leg and then I had a tip fib compound fracture, and then all of a sudden, you know, you learn over time that a lot of people don't come back from that, and so now that I was able to come back from that, you start to realize that the biggest availability is durability, and you know, and vice versa, durability is the best availability. So the more that you're out there, the harder it is to be able to try to replace you because they haven't been able to see. Certain people take as many reps to be able to have a chance to get in front of you, but as soon as there's something wrong with the injury, or even if it's minor or gruesome, it gives them a chance to be able to look at everybody else. And so I think for me, I just wanted to try to be out there the most that I can. And sometimes you sacrifice one, two, three yards, but if it's a third down or a fourth down, you know, you got to take those hits to be able to get it. So you still got to be smart in the aspect of when the fall and when not to. But it's also based off of the quarterback, right, like, how fast can they get the ball in your hands. The faster they get the ball in your hands, the more you could be able to make the move. There's sometimes when it's third and four, you just need to secure the catch, so you might body catch it just to make sure you secure the catch, just to move the sticks, because sometimes just when we want to get more that things start to get taken away, like the ball.

01:48:51
Speaker 5: You talk about quarterbacks getting the ball out, putting in certain places. What have you seen from a guy like cambe Ward this early in his career.

01:48:57
Speaker 13: I think he does a great job and being able to leave the receiver. He definitely knows how to throw receivers open. And the more and more that we talk and communicate and connect, we kind of get a feel of what I like, what he likes, and what's gonna be the middle ground to be able to get the best out of both worlds. But you know, everybody knows now he definitely comes in early. But I mean he lives sleep breeze football, and I think as a rookie, like the biggest thing that could be able to help your growth is just the mentality of understanding defenses and understanding how the league works because it is a copycat league. And so the more that you can understand how defense is playing the NFL and how the offenses work within who's your first reads, your second read, your third read, because even though they may be similar plays like college, in certain systems, there's different reads depending on who the coach says you should look at first, but then in the league, it's a whole different read based off of that same place. So the more he's able to understand the logic of how the NFL works, which he's been doing great job of, I think that's just gonna speed up the process of him being more than ready.

01:50:06
Speaker 1: What is your off the field between poetry and real estate? What fulfills you the most? What do you look at and you're like, oh, this is I'm proud of this work that I've done.

01:50:15
Speaker 13: You know, I never really paid attention to much of the work. But I mean, if I'm not doing poetry or if I'm not doing some type of real estate, I mean I'm just watching TV. Like I grew up in the way me and my mom were. We always just watch TV. We watch shows, we would watch movies, and so like that's literally what I do. Like my wife gets mad because it's like she can't do it all the time. But like I could literally sit at the house from sun up to sundown and just watch TV because I love watching shows. I wanted to be like it's like growing up, I wanted to be like a detective, like a cop, not a cop, but like a lawyer. And so I would watch shows and movies and try to figure out the whole point of what this writer was thinking of before they would do it, and it would get to the point where like I already knew what would happen and I wouldn't even pay attention and so like, but I love doing it because it's almost like in football you're scouting. You're trying to figure out what the coordinators are going to do and how defenses play, and you try to figure out how the story's going to end before you even started.

01:51:18
Speaker 5: What kind of shows? What kind of shows were watching right now? That we just love this guy first off? Will every time, yeah have you seen this show? Have you seen that show? And I'm always just three years behind everybody else.

01:51:30
Speaker 13: Oh yeah, I mean right now, I hadn't really been I watched Love Island with my wife, so she wanted to watch Yeah, So I was like, I'll watched that a little bit. But I already had started this show a while ago. But one of my homeboys is watching Blind Spots, So I was like, all right, I'll watch blind Spot a little bit. But I mean just some of the shows that I loved watching, like at one point like Scandal, How to Get Away with Murder, Money heightst Definitely that that was in my top three.

01:52:04
Speaker 1: For sure, especially during COVID.

01:52:06
Speaker 13: Yeah, some of the sleepers that a lot of us probably wouldn't watch. It's like the Originals, Vampire Diaries, like Legacy, like all of.

01:52:17
Speaker 7: That is fire. I ain't gonna lie.

01:52:19
Speaker 1: That's pretty good.

01:52:22
Speaker 7: Where do I want to go with this?

01:52:23
Speaker 13: Prison Break figure feel like an all time favorite?

01:52:27
Speaker 2: Yeah?

01:52:28
Speaker 13: Lost, I mean I could go on for days because next Yeah, you're crazy if you're watching.

01:52:35
Speaker 5: It's a good show.

01:52:36
Speaker 7: They just came up with another one.

01:52:40
Speaker 5: I thought the acting was horrendous.

01:52:44
Speaker 1: Dexter was my first Netflix show that I consumed. Then it was Prison Break. That's kind of how I got into the streaming services. How about Severance?

01:52:52
Speaker 2: Severance, have you watched that yet?

01:52:55
Speaker 9: No?

01:52:55
Speaker 13: I don't think I watched severing. Shit, it's a lot of shows that I've watched, and I'm like, I can't think of right now because it's I can't think of a one that's on Hulu. But it's a lot of different shows. Nah, it's the one when it's like Paradise. I had watched Paradise. It's like it's like something's about to happen in the world. So they go down like underground and it's a whole world there that they're living in.

01:53:20
Speaker 1: Is that good?

01:53:21
Speaker 7: Is that one?

01:53:21
Speaker 1: Good?

01:53:21
Speaker 2: G it's a good one?

01:53:24
Speaker 7: Season two?

01:53:25
Speaker 1: How many how many teammates that you up? Like eight Tyler helped me buy a house? Man, let me get in on what you got?

01:53:32
Speaker 2: Oh, probably a couple.

01:53:34
Speaker 1: Do you work with any current teammates or former teammates?

01:53:38
Speaker 3: Oh?

01:53:40
Speaker 13: Yeah, in a sense like I was able to help about some probably don't want their names named. So I probably helped one, two, three, four. I might have helped like five or six players, maybe seven or eight buy a house, and so I helped one of them. I helped two of them sell house, like, so it just depends. Even if I'm not able to help them, I can go refer them to somebody and we could still get it done, but as far as me like working for them and helping them buy it or sell it, definitely probably about six to eight.

01:54:12
Speaker 5: Who is who is the guy that came on the podcast had that incident with Percy Harbn Oh Golden Tate? Golden Tate, were you in the locker room?

01:54:20
Speaker 1: We're going I was still at k State.

01:54:23
Speaker 13: Oh yeah, so when I ended up getting drafted, Golden Tate had just signed to go to Detroit.

01:54:28
Speaker 1: Got you Kse State? I got y'all taking the Big twelve this year.

01:54:32
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're gonna see.

01:54:33
Speaker 11: We'll see what they look like versus Iowa.

01:54:35
Speaker 2: State on Saturday in Ireland.

01:54:39
Speaker 1: I feel good. Yeah, we're about We're one minute away, and listen, I want to respect.

01:54:43
Speaker 5: Respect Paul.

01:54:44
Speaker 1: Mandatory breakfast.

01:54:46
Speaker 5: Mandatory breakfast. We appreciate you. Take the time is hell and so for you to come and sit here with us, hang out for a little bit and get out of your routine, it means a lot. So we really appreciate it.

01:54:58
Speaker 7: Yeah, I appreciate you.

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01:55:31
Speaker 7: Back to the episode, you know how that feels?

01:55:34
Speaker 2: Come on?

01:55:36
Speaker 7: All right? All right?

01:55:39
Speaker 1: No, no, he was born with the pads off.

01:55:43
Speaker 5: Yeah, first round year, I played every preseason game, the full game.

01:55:47
Speaker 1: It was.

01:55:48
Speaker 7: It was different back then. It was a little old school for sure.

01:55:51
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you know I'm with you guys. Yeah, under Lesson was.

01:55:54
Speaker 1: Guaranteed though as a first rounder.

01:55:56
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, his life was set up. How's it been. How's camp? You're making friends?

01:56:03
Speaker 7: Yeah, dude, it's the group is getting a lot more tight knit. Camp's been great. Just been just been grinding, like you know how I always have, and getting opportunities with obviously Lloyd being down, he's coming back, so whatever way I can help out, that's how I've been doing.

01:56:21
Speaker 5: Man, it seemed like in that Bucks game you were holding your own around there.

01:56:24
Speaker 2: Seems like you're.

01:56:24
Speaker 5: Tossing some kids over the yard.

01:56:25
Speaker 7: Actually, I mean we we held up pretty good for camp. He was able to have time to sling it. So it felt good to stack a couple of weeks and go against some good competition in practice.

01:56:37
Speaker 1: What year is this for you?

01:56:39
Speaker 7: This is year nine? Your training camp nine?

01:56:42
Speaker 1: Let's go, bro. Isn't it fucking crazy that you're in this building?

01:56:47
Speaker 7: It is?

01:56:48
Speaker 1: It's after you know, when'd you come here?

01:56:50
Speaker 7: Twenty eighteen, twenty seventeen, seventeen was drafted under Malarkey?

01:56:56
Speaker 2: That was? What year was that for you?

01:56:58
Speaker 5: A third? Going to my third?

01:57:00
Speaker 7: Fourth, fourth, like Derrick Henry's second year, Like I was here with I tell people all the time, like the first quarterback I snapped to is Matt Castle. And then they're like, oh, dude, you're pretty old, and I'm like, yeah, I'm getting up there, like I just turned thirty one.

01:57:14
Speaker 1: Easy if you're in that locker room in two thousand, if you're what's far? No? That was like I mean and everything like, no, it could be a coffee too. They don't want to yea, you don't want to risk the coffee one? Yeah, did have it again. So back in twenty eighteen, it's like you look around the locker room, It's like, which dude in this locker room is going to be here in twenty twenty five, Like, who's got Corey Levin on the bingo card?

01:57:42
Speaker 7: No one, there's nobody else.

01:57:45
Speaker 2: There's nobody else.

01:57:46
Speaker 5: Kind of the longest ten you're tying, you just shoe a cooke a little break? Was that two years?

01:57:50
Speaker 7: Uh yeah, twenty twenty, twenty nineteen and twenty twenty.

01:57:56
Speaker 5: Corey is the one of those casts that like left and came back and he's like, this is this offensive line room is ten out of ten compared to everywhere else out there?

01:58:03
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah, I don't know. It's the standard that was kind of set and uh, just kind of the camaraderie that was kind of built. I don't know, probably when you first showed up and there was probably a good room going before you.

01:58:20
Speaker 1: That's a good locker room guy right there. Given credit to just a past generation cat.

01:58:24
Speaker 7: I mean, we're gonna try to uphold how it's been year after year, and obviously new guys, new personalities come in. But it seems like, you know, around here, they've always got in linemen that generally enjoyed being around each other.

01:58:38
Speaker 5: So you know what, you know what Cory's got, He's got the like he's able to hit the cats out like from urban areas all like every different part of the world.

01:58:47
Speaker 1: He's a gatekeeper.

01:58:48
Speaker 5: He's a gate keeper. He's their new Ben Jones, because our locker room was real shaky until Ben got their year three Blue guy.

01:58:56
Speaker 1: Glue Guy, glue Guy.

01:58:58
Speaker 5: Blue Guy. You feel confident about the season, about everything like that.

01:59:02
Speaker 7: I feel good.

01:59:03
Speaker 5: I mean yeah, I mean you be like fifty three is locked.

01:59:06
Speaker 7: I mean, you know it's not. I mean I was not going for sure. Anything can happen, but I mean I feel like I'm in a good spot as far as my role on this team. I just like, again, I just want to keep growing on it, see what happens with it. I got. I have a lot of tread on the tires still, so yeah, I just want to play.

01:59:27
Speaker 1: Obviously here going into a year nine, give remind remind the listeners out there that, like, what was it that one or two year period to where what was it the Bears.

01:59:37
Speaker 7: Right so I uh was that. I got released here in twenty nineteen, went over to Denver, was put down on peace squad after like two weeks, and then got off their peace squad. Chicago picked me up with like four games left in twenty nineteen, and then COVID hits we don't do Ota is nothing, we just show up for camp. They released me. I was like, Hey, I'm going to go to the Patriots, be on their practice squad. I was like, that's going to look good on my resume. You know, someone's going to want to get me from there. Ended up hating football, wanted to go home, went home.

02:00:13
Speaker 1: Why j football so much after New England?

02:00:16
Speaker 2: I mean it was just like, I.

02:00:19
Speaker 7: Don't know, I had already gotten released and bounced around a couple of times that in that past year, Like my son was back home. He was maybe seven months old at the time, my first son. I don't know. I just started to kind of see the different side of the league and I was like, man, I don't have to do this anymore. But so I decided to go home. And then that was the year that Derek went for two K and I was just in here in Nashville just watching them and being around the buzz, and I was like, I still miss it. So then I started training again, probably like after the New year, and then signed with the Jets in April. But I had already gotten down to like when I stopped playing. I was maybe like two fifty five, two sixty within like three months, and then I got back up to like eighty five when I signed with the Jets.

02:01:13
Speaker 5: Was there a defining moment when you're bouncing back and forth of the idea of playing or you're maybe not giving your own football where you're like, I'm gonna prove the haters wrong. Like maybe you were late night playing a risk game. Somebody comes at you and you're like, I gotta show with these cats, I gotta I gotta re energize my career.

02:01:34
Speaker 7: Basically, Taylor tried to call me soft.

02:01:38
Speaker 1: Muff and top Yeah you were, yeah, go ahead.

02:01:43
Speaker 7: It was something along those lines, but it kind of sparked something in me to be like, you know what, fuck this guy, I'm not a muffin top whatever business.

02:01:51
Speaker 5: That was kind of mean when yeah, no doubt, but obviously it was needed at the time.

02:01:58
Speaker 7: I mean, at the time, it sparked something, and it definitely got me.

02:02:03
Speaker 5: Say, we played risk until like two in the morning, and at six am you did the group chat with at the field.

02:02:09
Speaker 7: I mean, I don't know. It was kind of it helped me. It helped motivate me a little bit. I was already kind of getting started back and then I was just like, you know what, just add a little bit of fuel.

02:02:20
Speaker 5: It was.

02:02:20
Speaker 2: It was great.

02:02:21
Speaker 7: A little something, yeah, just a little something. Yeah.

02:02:26
Speaker 2: What else?

02:02:27
Speaker 1: What's your favorite snack during film?

02:02:29
Speaker 7: My favorite snack during film? I don't really snack much, but if it's afternoon, I got to have a coffee so that I have energy for my kids when I get home.

02:02:39
Speaker 1: How is that balancing the football life and dad life.

02:02:42
Speaker 7: It's kind of. I got to get back into it because we were just on the road for like ten days, so I was able to you know, practice, do whatever, and then just bullshit after you know, and whatever. But now when I go home, the boys are ready to see me for like, I mean, we get home at a decent time, so I have a good few to there's just wrestling and doing whatever the hell they want, you know what I mean.

02:03:05
Speaker 1: Yeah, but your football you go home, you got to be dead. They put them down. You probably got to go back to the football mode to prepare for the next day. Yeah, it's a different life than when you have a gift and whatnot.

02:03:14
Speaker 7: When you put the kids down and you check it out if there's anything weird. But typically, you know, by this point in camp nothing, We've installed everything, so you know, it's not it's not too crazy. But obviously we're playing Minnesota here Friday, so you take a look at the rushers and stuff like that, and then you by that time it's freaking ten o'clock. It's ready time to go to bed.

02:03:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, wake up early.

02:03:38
Speaker 7: Yeah.

02:03:39
Speaker 5: Do you have any like superstitions locker room things you have to do before a game?

02:03:45
Speaker 7: I mean nothing, nothing major besides like putting the putting the pants in the same you know, same way all the time. You know, I'd always take like an ice bath before a game. Nothing crazy like that.

02:03:58
Speaker 5: Just you have a couple of check boxes.

02:04:00
Speaker 7: They took away our our smelling salts, so we got to provide our own, you know how that I don't know. The club can't provide them for you. I think it. I think they said it mass concussion symptoms, so they don't want those anymore.

02:04:17
Speaker 5: But they're like, hey, you can go buy your own and put in your locker.

02:04:19
Speaker 7: Yeah, so do you have your own? Josh Wiley provided some last last week at all times there, I mean, they're just not as strong as as the old ones, you know what I mean.

02:04:33
Speaker 5: Ones in a jar now where you kind of that's.

02:04:35
Speaker 7: What you had. They were just loosing the jar and it's just kind of but I think it's not the same. It's not it's not the same as just cracking it on the side. Especially you know that before kickoff, man, that's like special, that's that's a special moment moment.

02:04:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like accepting the body of Christ before you go out there, just.

02:04:56
Speaker 5: Smelling at all time.

02:04:57
Speaker 2: Movie.

02:04:57
Speaker 5: All right, let's who's uh, number one bro on the team?

02:05:01
Speaker 7: Number one bro on the team.

02:05:03
Speaker 5: He's a guy that's like everybody would love this cat.

02:05:07
Speaker 7: Everybody would love this. I mean, there's there's lots of guys on that team, uh that are that are bro maybe. I mean, I think everyone enjoys Mason Kinzie. He's one of those guys.

02:05:21
Speaker 5: That he's another guy that just can't kill.

02:05:23
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think everyone enjoys him. I mean, I would like to say myself. I think everyone enjoys.

02:05:35
Speaker 1: All right, we're just a few boys sit on the back of the tailgate just catching up. What are you seeing out of cam Ward as a rookie? Like what do you notice trait wise that you're like super impressed.

02:05:44
Speaker 7: With, pretend cameras on just the bounce back, Like if he has a bad throw or you know, a bad period, the next one, he's trying to bounce back with the same confidence that he went into the first period with and he's confident to make any throw he wants to. I'd say the confidence in the next play mentality, how is it?

02:06:07
Speaker 1: What have you seen from like leadership wise, being that young coming into a locker room full of dads.

02:06:14
Speaker 7: You know, I think we're all the main thing is we're all bought in for, you know, the main goal. And I think obviously, you know, anyone's going to listen to the quarterback to the offense, and you know, being the first overall pick, like staff did their due diligence to make sure this guy had all the qualities he needed to be the first overall pick. So there's merit in that you know, we're going to listen to him when he speaks. He brought us up after the first Atlanta practice and kind of told us like, hey, that wasn't our standard whatnot. And when he talks, we listened, So we were all listening. We came back in the second Atlanta practice and overall had a better day. So I think, you know, it doesn't matter with this group age wise. We we need leaders at all levels, at all, you know, at all ages, and I think he's one of them.

02:07:07
Speaker 5: When you guys, when you see Cam and Jeff getting into it that the media is probably blown away out of proportion? Was the offensive line doing in that moment?

02:07:17
Speaker 1: Did you get a couple in there? You get a couple of blows?

02:07:19
Speaker 5: Well, you gotta, you gotta. I mean, Jeff's a big ass cat. You may be sneaking from the side like, oh that.

02:07:23
Speaker 7: Was yeah exactly was in there right away.

02:07:28
Speaker 5: But I mean probably the guy you want to.

02:07:30
Speaker 7: Say, yeah, he's he's big as ship, but we uh, I don't know, Like there was just some push and shoving and then all of a sudden it just kind of you know, scrums up and obviously like there's guys way bigger than me. I'm kind of outside, what the hell's going on.

02:07:46
Speaker 1: But Corey's like shoving backwards, like he.

02:07:51
Speaker 5: Grabs one guy and goes you and me, we'll just think doing something quit.

02:07:55
Speaker 7: Hey, hey, knock it out, knock it out. But no, the I to me, it kind of seems like the relationship they have like a big brother little brother relationship, and little brother just kind of upset Jeff a little bit and you just kind of bark back. It wasn't anything crazy. It was just a a little pushing and shoving.

02:08:15
Speaker 1: I need to see you hitting. Hitting Whenever you get a pancake in the game or something.

02:08:22
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'll do it like you do that.

02:08:24
Speaker 1: You hit that. It's like that's when you see somebody, you see an offensive lineman hit that celebration Like, Okay, the culture and the swag here is growing, look it off, get a pancake and then just start.

02:08:35
Speaker 7: It's a good sally for sure. It's nice. It's nice.

02:08:39
Speaker 5: Miss you.

02:08:40
Speaker 7: I miss you, guys man, I need to It's been great.

02:08:43
Speaker 1: Pat the chat fire up more just getting on the stream going for risk.

02:08:47
Speaker 5: Brad does the best job of keeping that stream together or that.

02:08:49
Speaker 7: He's the he's the group chats glue guy.

02:08:51
Speaker 1: He is. Then it will pop in every now and then pop in, but it's mostly to shame us for something.

02:08:58
Speaker 5: And then he's onward and upward.

02:09:00
Speaker 2: Cork.

02:09:00
Speaker 5: He's just always in the shadows.

02:09:02
Speaker 7: I'm lurking. I'm lurking, sure.

02:09:04
Speaker 5: Always, But we do got off season, we got hit the restream for sure, Let's do it.

02:09:09
Speaker 7: You're nine.

02:09:12
Speaker 1: The league longer than guys sitting next to you.

02:09:15
Speaker 2: How that feel.

02:09:18
Speaker 1: He's in your nine? He had to go another one after that.

02:09:21
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's tough.

02:09:22
Speaker 1: That's tough business, trying to get to them double digits.

02:09:25
Speaker 9: Crazy first.

02:09:28
Speaker 5: Next, Hey, next, nine attends the hardest. Everyone knows that nine attends the hardest one.

02:09:34
Speaker 7: I mean every year they're bringing in younger and these young guys they bring in these days are so freaking strong and fast. Dude, It's it's unreal. But you just, I don't know. You gotta do what you do to to hang on.

02:09:45
Speaker 5: I guess, And is there a piece of you that's like, I gotta get ten so I can tell Will and Taylor I got ten.

02:09:53
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it's not just for you guys, Like I mean, I want to I want to play. I have liked these different goals that I've been able to set the last couple of years. But my newest one is to try to be on the Titans when they open in the new stadium.

02:10:09
Speaker 1: So try, yeah, try to still be here, Yoda, do or do not?

02:10:14
Speaker 7: There is no try all right? Then I will be on the Titans when they think I.

02:10:17
Speaker 5: Had a goal to I had a goal. It was make it to when we had the alternate jerseys.

02:10:23
Speaker 7: Didn't make it, didn't make it, didn't make it, didn't make it.

02:10:27
Speaker 5: This thing looks so nice? Do you think the Titans should go full time back to those jerseys?

02:10:31
Speaker 7: I like the white helmets a lot. Are you talking the oilers the oiler ones? I like those every couple of games. But if we could go back to how we had white helmets.

02:10:43
Speaker 5: At least and when do we change at eighteen?

02:10:45
Speaker 7: Yeah, when Vrabel's first year, I believe. Yeah, there's something special about the all white uniform, you know, or the way the white looks with the Navy with the white pant you know. Classic.

02:10:57
Speaker 1: I like the white helmets too, because it's like the Navy ones. They're just at their best when you're going like all Navy in my right, more versatility with the white home.

02:11:05
Speaker 5: Yea, you'd like to see a little more. If you're gonna go white jerseys, go white helmet navy, if all navy or the Navy helmet goes hard, very sick. Do you miss the Smurfs the I never really wore the you didn't get the color rushes.

02:11:18
Speaker 7: We did, and I think Thursday Night in twenty seventeen versus Pittsburgh it was the only time.

02:11:25
Speaker 5: Yeah, we got Donkey that game and then I believe that was it. That was the game ab went off right, Yes, yeah.

02:11:32
Speaker 7: Yes, so did I think Cam Hayward had a good one too. I can't remember you go off in that game. It was it was tough sledding. Yeah, tough sledding.

02:11:42
Speaker 5: There's tough times.

02:11:44
Speaker 7: That was a good line though. You guys played very well together.

02:11:48
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, I mean Josh Klin, Yeah.

02:11:51
Speaker 7: Quentin, Benny, Jack Conklin. Jack was that Jack's first year, That was the second year.

02:11:57
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, it was a good crew. Jack still doing it out there, Jack still doing his thing out there. Snekly Gumby is just doing his thing? Does he do You to see the Browns play when you see the film, is Jack still jackings?

02:12:09
Speaker 7: Jack still jacking?

02:12:10
Speaker 5: He's the most unique technique you've ever seen an offensivelignment of all the time.

02:12:14
Speaker 7: He's crazy. It defies all jack and all season.

02:12:19
Speaker 5: He's jacket all season long. Buddy, We appreciate you coming on man.

02:12:23
Speaker 7: Thanks, appreciated you guys,