Club 520 - Fred VanVleet on WINNING NBA Finals, GUARDING Steph Curry, Durant vs. SGA

Club 520 Podcast

We’re back with Season 4, Episode 30 of Club 520, where Jeff Teague, DJ Wells, and B Hen are joined by Fred VanVleet of the Houston Rockets. FVV talks about winning an NBA Championship alongside Kawhi Leonard on the Toronto Raptors where he guarded Steph Curry for the entire series. Fred and Jeff tell stories about each making an NBA All-Star game where Jeff missed a layup in the skills competition, and Fred hit the side of the backboard in the 3 point contest. The guys debate whether Kevin Durant or Shai Gilgeous-Alexander have a more fluid offensive game, as well as debate between Nikola Jokic and Alperen Sengun.

Timeline:
0:48 - Episode Start
2:00 - NBA fines
6:00 - High school hoops
7:30 - B Hen knowing every restaraunt
9:00 - NIL messing up basketball
13:30 - Jeff realizing Fred plays defense
15:45 - Transition to the NBA
18:00 - Bron and Bronny to Ohio State
23:45 - "Take the money on the table!"
27:00 - All-Star snubs
31:00 - Changes to All-Star Game
34:00 - How to fix the dunk contest
40:00 - All-Star 1v1
42:00 - Jeff's terrible skills challenge
43:30 - Fred's terrible 3-point shot
45:15 - Making an All-Star game
48:45 - Lowry and DeRozan for Kawhi trade
52:30 - Fred winning a title
54:00 - Kevin Durant vs. SGA
55:30 - Facing Steph in NBA Finals
01:00:00 - Jokic vs. Sengun debate
01:04:45 - Coaching experience
01:07:00 - Raptors vs. Bucks championship parades
01:12:30 - Flagg, Edgecombe, and elite rookie class
01:14:00 - Cam Boozer is Tyler Hansbrough

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was able to make this. What happened for sure? Man?
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Appreciate you sliding on this, man, I appreciate you for
having me one of my favorite players the way he
be lying on the ress.
Cause let's start everything came home seen for the record. Yeah,
hey man, it would be like that sometimes. You know
what I'm saying.
It's like, once you make the decision that you're gonna
go for it, you might as well go all the way.
Yeah, they're gonna take that money tab no matter what.
What's the same by the way too, no matter what
I mean. It varies, but like if you're gonna if
you're going wild out, you gotta go all the way
with out here. You gotta get your money's worth, get
your money's worth. That's good to know. Then I got
a couple of good ones. You know what I'm saying.
That's good now, do y'all see that on yall statement?
Like the little part missing, they go ahead take it
out like immediately.
They take should like you'll support, Yeah, come off the top.
That's come out to check. That's going right off the top.
But you could you could fight some of them boom.
Yeah the ones I did, you can't know.
That's so much hard.
I was actually happy the last one that I was.
I had a very good phone call. Like I appreciate y'all.
You know what I'm saying. I thought it was gonna
be worse. I thought it was gonna because he jumped.
Like when he jumped, it made like like I hit him.
Got my phone. After the game, they like, oh we
hit the ref.
I'm like, man, I'm six ft away from him. He jump,
he flinched. Yeah, you're a good him. That damn knowing
that all of them is the same, that's pretty dope though.
The regular tech yeah, regular check is what it's sorry
something like that, you know, keep God of your life.
You might be ran Ricky. I think Moms was like
fifty k okay, what about what about the niggas the
big eyebrow, the one that said something about.
Dudes sony brother, Oh yeah, so you just he was
like nah, I cussed him out, but he kind of
was like I ain't know.
It was your mama, b.
This nigga that resurface recently too did. Yeah, this is
a crazy list right here. The first one, two bands
six and ten, three eleven to fifteen, four, sixteen and up,
Damn Hold is Down.
And the local boy Damn five half piece.
It's crazy.
Then It's like the main thing for me was like
you see the reputation then, like I had a whole reputation.
I still got the reputation, but the rest of that
year it was ugly. I mean, I don't shoot no
free throw. It might be some decent now because I'm
the president again, but yeah, other than that, it was ugly,
like I'm like, yo, y'all painting me like I'm one
of them.
Yeah. When he talked all the time, what's your name
in that? Rico y zero, Rico different.
Yeah, it's hard to get that back man Midwest guy
for Shaw. Growing up in Illinois, hoopsing was crazy. Chicago.
How was that?
Like, I know, obviously you was killing, but they say
you didn't get as much like love or deserve well
deserve love because you didn't play on the A U
circle around the.
White Yeah, it was cool. I mean we played everywhere.
We played Indiana a lot, probably more than the Illinois.
I mean, you go to Chicago sometimes, but Indiana had
the better tournaments.
You're from Maryville to one area. They had the speech
Joint out here. Yeah.
We used to play the Indiana teams and my class
was all the good teams, So I should love playing.
Who was your class?
Yogi, Oh, Yogi Indiana legend Indiana.
The league, yeah speech Yeah, Yeah, we played a couple.
I think Glenn Robinson was your Yeah. Yeah, so I
played against them, Hannah Perera like all of them teams
the didas joint. So ship, we come out here and
get some bumping. Then Illinois, it was it was tough.
Jabari Parker was younger than me. But that that that era.
But yeah, I mean, you know you circ and then
like Macurby fire and Yeah, by the time I got
to the point where I was like a teenager, I
thought I thought I was grown. So it's like they
was already too late. They coming like with the shoe
bag and all that ship, like come play for us.
I'm like, man, I'd rather just play my homies because
I'm not from the city.
I'm from down the way. So are you from Rockford? Yeah? Hey,
y'all got a motherfucker restaurant. Y'all got salt down there?
It's so good. Yeah yeah, that's about like forty five minutes.
Do you know that? Yeah? Yeah, what wrong? Yeah, promise
nigga salt. It's so good, bro, And that right, that's
the best one. Why Jesus Christ, I got a sea bag,
I got rid By, But like, why did you ass potatoes?
Hunh did you go why me, how I got Yeah, I'm.
Gonna stay in the city. You can stay outside of Rockford,
you know what I mean. Ain't a bad drop to
go over to the city forty five minutes from Allah
with free I know why you was out expectfuly. I
had to move.
A little tournament, going geta Martha the Rock Big Show
quick overhau. It's definitely out the way, that's funny. Yeah,
So it was cool, like I'd rather play my homies
and you know, trying not to get caught up in
that other ship. And that was it. And then by
the time I was in high school, we was beating
all the good teams, so I was super cool. We
just ain't had the shoot ship, the sponsorships and all that.
Ain't crazy now obviously was about the college situation where
you went to Man you made your move saying whatchit state?
With the N I L and stuff. Now, how you
think it would have been, especially the way I had
that campus rocking when you was there.
Yeah, we could have never. We could have never had
the teams that I had, and I would have been
gone over there. Yeah, one hundred thousand, I'm out, So
I don't even need too much. But it is money
in Wichita and the coach that we had, yeah, he
would have got the money out the community.
But yeah, I mean it's so much, bro, you eighteen nineteen,
Like that's just a lot of money. Bro. You know
what I'm saying.
It's really fucking up the game in terms of like
your mindset, because my whole mindset was like, I'm going
to Wichitar, I'm kind of out the way. I ain't
really have like no college life, like the shit you
see when you're growing up, like the parties and all
that which you time have none of that shit. You
go to the bar and I was in a lab.
I'm like, man, I'm trying to go to the league.
I'm gonna have no fun in the league. So if
we would have been getting paid back then it would
have been stupid. Yeah, you talk about that all the time,
Like you said, if I'm getting paid one hundred bands,
two hundred bands at eighteen, where's my hunger at?
Because I already made it that most people it would
have been over for me.
Over It was already he's seen me my rookie year
over man.
But it just I don't know. I think that I'll
come from a crib too, though it was cool. Yeah, yeah,
I'll be cool with that little cheese bro. Think about
if you get in.
Let's say you're a top, top player, you get a
million your first year, and somebody tell you you can
get this for the next four years.
I'm not thinking about the NBA at all, all million dollars.
If I'm the top, I'm out of there for sure.
But it's a lot of other players that, like I'm saying,
I'm just speaking for myself. Like I wasn't on those
draft no never, none of my four years, so it's
like I had to keep But if I would have
been getting like a seven fifty or something, I would
have been like, you know what I'm saying.
Overhead went to Miami.
Nigel ranging up, start throwing parties, Alklahoma got another bang.
I would have been thinking nothing about that. Would have
bought it. You know me, I'm crap about Lambo. Ain't
no bills.
If you had sent some to the crib dollars, make
sure mom and them straight dad, five bands a mom outside,
you're a teenager, still really real live?
Yeah, I was burning maxwell that thing I'm saying. But
if I'm there, I still want to go to the league.
Did you have like aspirations to go to the leagu
or did you want to be the best college player you.
Want to Well, no, I hated college. I wanted to
go to the league. My home every day trying to
get to the league. I just was crazy enough to
think I was going to go right away, you know
what I'm saying. I didn't even start my freshman year, Like,
I came off the bench till like the once we
went to the tournament, I started playing more and more.
And then my sophomore year we had a real good team.
We was number on the country that year. Yeah, so
that's when the scouts started coming to practice and ship. Okay,
I'm lit, but I had a good miss ship. I
set up with Sweden College. I wasn't trying to lead
too fast, you know what I'm saying. I was trying
to get drafted. That was my main thing. Like I
thought I could work up the draft boards, but that
shit don't work like that.
Na, Like you said, I had a with Well Clanny
was there? Yeah, Ron Baby, Yeah, Ron Baker. I had
a week. I had pros on that team.
Yeah, we had a good ass team, bro.
But I think I had a good coach too, and
I was just because, like we got a lot of
young guys on our team. Now, like a lot of
the kids that's come to the NBA now, they don't
know how to play dawn. So like I was just
happy that I had a good coach and who taught
me how to play.
So by the time I got to the league, I
kind of you know what I'm saying, transitions here. I
had a good foundation to go off of that helped
me a lot.
Yeah, you alreay talking about that email as a Hogs
Spital coach, like I'm having to teach stuff that we
should learn the elementary school now that kids they're not kids,
but against the NBA and having to learn how to
pick a rollan shit.
They learned their game backwards. Now, Ship, you do you
do all the difficult ship first? Yeah, you know what
I'm saying. By the time you get you know, it's
like a certain age, like you can't shoot by the
time you eighteen, you probably cooked. You know, you ain't
how it is some fixed eight and just so gifted
that you can't deny it.
Damn It's like the art. If you can't shoot right now,
you kind of caught. Yeah, NBA, it's hard. It's hard
to add it. I expect of the job. If you
can't shoot by eighteen and you got to be six eight.
I'm saying, because you got to have something, got to
jump off the screen. We used to scout. We have
to say, what's this superpower?
Right?
Yeah, So if your superpower is I can't find it
when I'm looking at you, ship you cook. I need
to come in the gym and be able to see
your superpower immediate, like he can shoot.
Shooting the most important thing to get somebody into the
NBA right now. Yeah, I think, So what what's what they're.
Paying Yeah, I think I mean size, just being tall,
just you know, that's always gonna win athleticism because that's
what it is. Just like you gotta be a freaking
nature out there. That's what everybody got to survive. But
I mean, shooting is the separator to me, Like if
you can shoot, the better, the more better you can shoot,
the better your chance is going to be. Because that's
what they're paying for right now. Stason and shooting, you
know what I'm saying. And so if you don't have that,
you just have more of a disadvantage, so your other
ship gotta be off the rule.
Never got to be a superior athlete much better.
Yeah, you gotta have a competitive nature to like, that's
the one thing I always appreciated about your game, even
being a smaller guard, Like I wasn't a defender at all,
but you was actually known for your defense.
So when you came in the league, I was like this,
my fucker really be guarded.
I was like laughing at him, like trying hard as fuck,
like I don't know.
And then he started scoring.
Always been a good shooter, but then he started to
adding more and more to his game, but he was
known for defense. Like when I watched you in the finals,
guard and stuff, Yeah he really guarding stuff, Like he's
doing a good job. Like what the fuck, man, you
gotta be cool with that. I knew niggas was laughing
at me. I ain't square, you know what I'm saying.
I just don't talk like I just from me being
in Houston.
People just realize I'm not from Canada, you know what
I'm saying, So like you don't know, I can't. I
ain't had no VC, I ain't have no nothing, And
like got out the mud you know what I'm saying,
but I'm out that bitch picking up full court. I
remember my rookie year. I think I played in Oka
see or we played OKC and I picked up Russ
full court, and.
I remember everybody's Likeyo, what the fuck you doing?
Man?
Like nobody picked him up full court.
I'm like, shit, I'm trying to figure it out, you
know what I'm saying, Like, I gotta find a way
somehow fucked. So I was willing to do whatever damn
to make my way. So now that was the way
I got in. It was like, all right, you gotta
play d you gotta change the game and change the temple.
That was like the two things that I tried to do,
and then the offense came later.
I was just about to ask you that, like when
you transitioned from college to going to the NBA, what
was that like, bro? Man, it was cool.
It was hard because I was trying to make it
like I was trying to find some security, you know,
from being undrafted, yeah, not having a guaranteed contract. I
was just trying to get like some security like a
year or two then I could work on my game.
So that first part was tough.
And then once I realized, like I wasn't playing, I
was just enjoying it, you.
Know what I'm saying. I'm in the league. I'm chilling.
I mean skittles on the bench, like I'm just watching
this show. You know.
That's how I go and there, Like when you don't
have no chance of playing, you really just chilling, traveling
and you outside for sure.
So I did that.
But I worked on my game every day and I
studied every day, you know what I'm saying, And I
just stuck close to the vest that I had.
And so that was like that first initial transition.
And then once I started playing, then I built it
a little bit, you know, more from there.
But at first I was just happy to be here.
I'm still happy to be here, but I was just
super happy to be in the league at that point.
Yeah, obviously a lot of respect.
How you got to the NBA and came grinding like
major way in the situation, very admirable. But it's funny
now you went to the G League and made the
most of it and got back in the league. Now
you got people in the G League trying to go
back to college.
Like that is crazy, Like, yeah, I'm.
In the G League.
Let me go back to my school. The Times is
wicked what I think about that, because I don't know.
I got a different couple of opinions on that because
I feel like should lame.
But you gotta get back.
If I played in the NBA, if I guarded Fred
van Sleet and I played the whole season or two
in the NBA, NIGGA, I'm not going back to goddamn
at Boston University. I'm not doing that, bro.
But if you're not getting I think it's been nobody
that did that. I think it's like it's been Bro.
It's to be people.
That's how many games he playing in the league.
They said, That's what I'm saying, Like, Bro, if you
if you because they're young, right, That's what I'm saying.
They're young. Yeah, So if you young and just ship
you jumped early and they ain't work out for you,
they getting paid anyway, all that college should have, right,
you should have.
Just really the new G League, the better league. It's
a better G league. The only thing I was gonna
say was we let the the Europeans can come up
whenever that's a fact. It could sign with college.
They can go pro. They can do it. There's no
restrictions on him. Let's see, I ain't know bout no
more European. So they don't say I'm not arguing saying
I'm saying. But then, like the kid from Baylor got
all attention. I don't know how many of hers done it.
Ye seeing the kid from Baylor, but like.
He ain't impacting the game, like you know what I'm saying,
Like if he was coming, like he was a National
Player of the Year and be like, all right, you're
tipping freshman still Bailey, if he get to play college,
he's gonna have a run.
He's gonna kill. He's gonna kill. You know what I'm saying.
But ship they pros now, So you know pros got
play against pro That's like Charlesdago when they played forty
yesterday and they start beating they was just like ge
League drop out. I'm that state. Yeah, Now, if you
go back, you gotta kill. That's my problem. If you
go back average ten, they.
Got Bigga's putting pressure on down back average twenty five, then.
I don't make more money. Yeah, like everybody pros at
this point. Yeah, never stop you I said. Anyway, so
he going back. He ain't never go, but it's your time.
Old cool twenty he's at in fightly twenty with Bronnie
probably twenty three. Want probably twenty three. Now that was
the thing. They will to suck it up and brought it,
went back to USC had the fire. That's Hord, but
he already bad. I think Brian and Brownie should go
to a house state.
Bron all three of them anywhere twenty three, so you
do he bron got four years.
He need to go to market. I'm cool with that.
Well that's like the Yeah, they average age like twenty five. Yeah, yeah,
I told him hold on, hold one of them. Nobody
say nothing about that. We will resparing to take the show.
And s see look after the age of twenty three,
that's COVID year.
We good money.
I just know they all seen just being pros and
went back to play with the young pros. That's crazy
because if I'm not going to if I'm not going
and I don't have better years the aj de Basso
or oh boy from Kansas, it's quiet bro. I think that.
I think the real issue they're not better than them
and Jeff right, how you coach in high school.
So like, I think the high school kids get the
short end.
Yeah, all of this shit because it's like the coaches
just in the portal or they're going to get yes,
bro pro So like that, it's harder for a high
school kid to get recruited and come in and play.
You gotta be like stupid nights. You gotta be McDonald's
all American. Now.
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But like you said, you look right now and the
best player some of them at least and they say
it right now on all freshman and they putting belt
to automo niggas too. But I like it because like
if you you know a lot of people want to
go high major and they go there and they don't
play right away or don't get a chance, so they
might play at junior senior year. Now you can go
to a lower level school or D lorerd D one
me and major. If you're really good, you're gonna shine there.
I agree with you on that. I like that. I'm saying,
do you bring these motherfuckers back to the to the college.
Do they get drafted now it's quiet, it's over. You
ain't going back back then?
Life is crazy. Wait to y'all drafted twice. Make sure
y'all trying to get that higher level for overseas. You'll
remember this, dame, But I went drafted twice.
It's crazy.
I wait for the person to go back and really killed.
I wait the one twenty five, go back to college
and go to the final four. Bro, I want to
see that. Yeah, I do too.
I do. I think should be the same.
We're gonna let Europeans do, or people from overseas or
foreign people like, let them come.
Whatever they should be able to do, we should be
able to do.
And the NBA is going to step in at some
point and make it makes sense because like, ultimately the
league would be better if those leagues are better. If
college and g league is better, that's gonna give us
better players too.
They'll step in at something.
League gonna have to step in because I would never
go to I wouldn't go straight to the g L.
You I would never go to college I'll go in
to G league first and see if I can make
it to the league. I can't going to college. Yeah whatever,
step on college campus first for what. Yeah, I got
a chance to go back. I go overseas. I'll do
all that stuff first. Damn, that's funny for sure. Man,
that is crazy.
I can go back.
It's a hell of a fall back player. But it
just looked crazy, bro, Like we were talking about it.
You've been on campus with fucking nineteen year old yeah, Bro,
I mean that's college.
So I see why people will go though, Like true,
more money.
They need to.
Open the straight out of high school again though, because
like yeah, because Darreon Peterson the best. That was pointless bro.
Yeah players, Yeah, it's pointless to be in college right now.
I know they're making a lot of money, but what
we're doing, bro, yeah, the both of them is pro.
Yeah we're black.
He did a year, come on, pointless years. Yeah, yeah,
that is crazy. Shout the stack house, stack house. I
got to my Jamal Mashburn. Bro.
Cooper flag would have been top five this year as well.
Bro, he was this year. He reclassed for reason. I'm like, nah, bro, respect,
I know that the Freshman's cold. But Cooper Flags just
never have fifty. Bro said he wouldn't have been top up. Yeah,
he said he'd have been number six. He put the
doctor Lamar on this.
I ain't bad at it.
I get it from I'm rolling as well. But Cooper
Flags never drop fifty. Cooper he nice if he was
at Duke with game losing right now, Oh my god,
yeah he nice. He proud be the number two picks age.
Yeah yeah, hes gonna be a step aheader and he
got a year on now he nice funck with his game.
Back to you, Bro, when you first got your real
footing in the league, how that feels? Man? You got
your shot? Man?
Uh, my first deal, My first deal was two years,
and I signed another two years. Yeah, and then so
it was like two years eighteen man, Man.
That was it. I was cool.
I never looked back. I ain't going back, you know
what I'm saying. I played a little bit like forty
games year. I was like a backup my second year
and then I got a contract, so I'm like fucking
Then my third year we win the chick.
Hell yeah, it's like shit, I'm lit, you know what
I'm saying. Twenty five, got paid, made some money. I was.
I was like, I'm here because like you think you're good,
you got confidence, you know you're good. You play against
your peers and shit like that, but you're always waiting
on us, like like I said, some security, you know
what I'm saying, Especially when you come in and you
see like a guy that's drafted lottery or the first round,
they get four five years to figure it out.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
So you had time, Like my shit was like you
just waiting on the opportunity.
You know what I meant. Down no deals, no hell no.
I mean I always tell people like they're begetting that
shit misconstrued, bro, Like you only can operate with the
deal that's on the table. It's a fact what's on
the table. So you be turned down some shit that's
on the table for some shit that is imaginary. Yeah,
so whatever the best deal on the table is, That's
what I'm going every time.
That's that's about right there, right man.
I still like for gave Quinn g his money, but
that QG, what's the hell of again? I told Cam
Tomas said, though, yeah, on.
Leave that change. I like that money, bro, You don't
know what's gonna happen.
And the part about the n b A is themn
the dirty if you don't take it.
Yeah, the president still.
It's just business. Yeah, I think even more so the
basketball just business? Like how can you negotiate with some
ship that you don't even have available to you? Like,
I know I'm worth more than that, Like, all right,
you work, they tell you what you were, Yeah, you work, market,
I'm willing to pay you.
So because then when you don't, you're in the tunnel
trying to smack people.
Market.
You got hands and feet the people that disrespect your paycheck.
Did you do something crazy the first piece of change? Nah,
I really be chilling. I bought it roly. Yeah, that
was like my first thing. I bought it. Really.
I already bought my Mama crib when I on my
first deal, I was making like five hundred thousand my
first year that my second was nine hundred. So I
bought my Mama crib. And then man, we went to Vegas,
though we definitely went to Vegas. The gate took all
the guys to Vegas. We signed, and then we flew
with the with the management from Toronto to Vegas for
summer league, and yeah we had a time. We had
like a three four day trip. Yeah, fresh after, fresh
off the.
Bag, I bought a roll leade. That was it. Though
I don't know. I just he's from a small town. Yeah, yeah, different.
He had a fight for that spot. He was like,
I'm enjoying this, Bro, I'm happy I got it. I'm
un I was like.
A regular person before I was in the NBA, Like
when I was in college, I was lit, but like, bro,
I was, I was a regular person, Like nobody know
who I am. You know what I'm saying, Like I
wasn't coming in I'm just a superstar and everybody kissing
my ass. Like I had to grind for that ship.
So that's it was a little bit easier for me
when I got the money. Now, I still fuck some
money up. No, yeah, for sure, for sure, saying as
we all do. But I think like jury and ship
like that cars. But well no, I worked too hard
for mine for that.
Like you said, getting into rotation, you look at that
squad of people I had. Everybody, damn it is still around,
still thriving. A Yeah, yeah, he got squad. Come on, bro,
everybody became act and Pasy got his first All Star
bisch Peasy. Yeah, you know, my god, freaky piece, my god,
peace Skills for a time first ballot now being ballant.
Skills, I'm fucking with it. I just think, you know,
Pea Skills, you all at me if you feel the
way I thought you had to be in the winning
team to make the off start game. No, I don't
hate nobody all startized, but it's the East Man. Anything
goes in the East.
He's still living off the twenty fifteen snub of lamellow ball.
That's what he all right now.
Last year, Yeah, like LaMelo didn't make it, Bro, and
peace Skills got in. That's bullshit it, Bro. I think
some real like none of the rules.
I think when you're the president, Look, I think when
it comes down to it, now, when you get to
that point, you you're gonna pick somebody that's already been
in there, somebody that's never been in Like I said,
you gotta you gotta have repeat years.
Yeah, I'm defending my man obviously.
At the same time I think that dude, dude like you,
you will pick somebody that's already been an All Star.
Then you will pick somebody that's not it.
Don't work like oh he not the m v P
that give to somebody that never had it before.
They do, like doing that ship boter Fatigua is real MVP.
But I don't know this the coaches, So I think
you know the coaches pay for the reserves.
That's that's what you need to be talking to an
international player though. Yeah, so you know they got the
international world world create USA versus the world. You ain't rolling,
I ain't mad, don't.
Because I don't want fred you feel me he I
don't want to ben throll the too bush but no,
I want to hear what you think. But because there's
too many rules to make the All Star team is
I swear to god the needle boves every year. But
trash bro Skills is a killer. Oh god he can.
Oh my mama, you should be no all smar. So
you like Team Horrible Bro like MPJ over him. Yes, yes,
I left my track left. I left my fuck at
six seven. I left my trash ass team that didn't
fuck with me. Yeah, and I'm over here killing now Bro. No,
I'm killing. I got my own team, like I left
a championship team. My fault not trash ass a championship team.
Now I'm the man, I'm average twenty five. No, he's
very deserving.
I think I'm never taking him over Pascal anything basketball related.
No, y'all real basketball players though, Bro, But All Star Game,
nigga throw that my fuck between his legs. The other thing.
That's the other thing too.
That'd be my argument, Like, I think those lists should
be different lists because who're gonna put the.
Best All Star Game on?
Yeah?
All Star Game should always have a Trey Young, LaMelo Kyrie. Yeah,
that's exciting, but we're talking about just like the best
players or like the best season. I'm not taking him
over past caw Bro. I respect you now if we
if we're doing the draft, don't God get me passed
every time. I'm talking about for the excitement of this game, kid,
like respect Bro to see lamelow.
Man as it's always Bro's African too, so you know
on the world ship. Yeah, but it's.
Always guys that's deserving to be All Stars that don't
make it.
Every year. It's gonna be a snub every year. Be out.
You just don't want it to be. Yeah, be I
deserve to be in there. That's a factor year because
they caslateding there this year New York.
Yeah, that is crazy, respectfully, I mean it's costing the towns,
but also year.
I'm sleeve.
But the eat this, I mean, he really popped.
It's numbers like yea, his numbers still say saying this
nigga about to be on team.
He's playing like a what's kind of numbers? Count two
and thirteen?
It's gonna be respectable because Cat, for sure.
What top forty East All Star? Playing like an All star? Bro,
we just expected to play like twenty and eleven, all right,
twenty eleven.
Twenty twelve, I'm round up.
I got around that.
I'm respected, twenty twelve solid.
I'm killing bro, all these niggas. I just I just
it's a bad year for Cat. That's all.
I'm gonna join and B numbers I know, I know,
I ever fotify because I'm playing.
A different look for the league because people are pulled
away from it. So what right?
So now, because I'm in the seat now and I'm
in these conversations, what would y'all change.
Go back to the regular jerseys?
Now? That all out?
And B I know he'll play that much. But twenty
seven seven is fucking crazy balling.
Now that I'm talking to the motherfucker president, get this off,
my god, Damn, let's get it, Litersten, I don't get right.
All these goddamn I get it, Bro, the foreigners, they
run the league, top players, I get it, But all
these people playing these the American play the foreigner and
then you got them play the G league niggas. Then
you play the American team, then the winners out of
that play each other, then the first to twelve like
all that bullshit. Bro, go back to what it was,
a regular nigga match ups, like the best twelve versus
the best twelve, no matter where you're from, you like
East West or yeah, East West or just blended. We
just want to see the All Star Game be a
regular NBA game again.
BRO with you, I'll be having these same conversations. But
I think I think the fans got more more input
than they think they got because Adam, ultimately the league
is listening to what the fans want, what they want
to see. He don't have like a bias either way,
you know what I'm saying, But do gotta fix the shit.
We gotta address it, you know what I'm saying that
I think my my thing was I said the jersey.
It was a simple thing, like I come on back
to like the jerseys Nike used to do, the shoes.
Everybody had like a spacific shoot.
And I think you just get the best twenty four,
the top twenty four, and figure out a way to
separate the All Star from the All NBA ship.
You know what I'm saying, Because it's like two different things.
I might want to be an All Star just for
my contractor for my purposes on some Jimmy Butler ship,
but I might not even actually want to play.
That's the fact, you know what I mean. Or I'm hurt.
Yeah, so then you're taking away from somebody else that
could get in there too.
So no, I'm with you.
But NBC Olympics coming up, you know, that's where the
world shit comes from. And obviously Dabeling and the European
stuff I'm certain years on.
Has played in America. Man, damn man, take that having
games or take that ship to China, bro and do
all these ugs playing each other? Bro? Got that I
will play. Ain't bring back the vibes man, the something
bro it used to seeing Jordans and goddamn iris in
Shack and whoever else Bro like that, though, I think
he will talk to a couple of young guys this
year that said they're gonna they're gonna go put on
the show. So I'm hoping I ain't gonna say who
it is, but women said that.
He said, don't know if everybody playing hard, but I am.
I'm hoping that young the young next guys, once the
old guys get out the way, the young next guys.
Can bring that back because like the old I mean,
but bro, twenty.
Two years in the road, like you know what I'm saying,
and he put on the show every year, but it's
just hard like for them to live somewhere and then
put them in these bullshit cities. No, I don't want
to see you go ahead, Shay, Yeah, call him Mountain
me and yes, Bro, we need to have to play harder.
Yeah, you ain't do that. We need we need we
need to have to play what do you shoot? All
left hand shots? Left year? We need to play locky, bro,
because the dunk contest already gone. Bro, that's the Smith
rings up. Yeah, it's not going back. What's what's that
should cook? What's my what's my white boy from Georgetown, y'all.
NBA y'all didn't wash that nigga and rinsed him off
and runky out and washed him and rink like she's cooked.
He is the fourth time NB A that and that
nigga can't stay in the league.
It's like they put the pop ups l the next game.
Like this, wik he might get a ten day tomorrow. Bro,
that might be a hundred thousand. Listen, don't play with
my emotions. Y'all be having this. Niggas go and do
all this ship jump over people and cars and ship
sign the nig nigga played twelve games to We'll tell
you next year. Yeah, Bro, it's me because Jackson has
a lot of times though.
But listen, if you get all that that, if you
get the name that you want in there and they
go out there, I'm gonna tect you and miss and
do all that that.
People gonna kill to have a dunk contest between Listen,
nobody disrespect to Max. Didn't nobody give a fuck if
he made it. No, I'm with you on that. VJ
and them young niggas get out there and now I
didn't get out there and try some crazy ship. It's
gonna be exciting. Yeah, they might miss it, but at
least you get to see the best players in the league.
Or you didn't even got to be the best players.
It could be a medium tier guy. I look at.
Somebody a good example for me, Like I think Jaylen
Brown did it, yeah a year or two ago.
Yeah, or when you know what I'm saying. That's what
I'm saying.
They don't know. No turbo dunk don't help, Bro.
I ain't Mike. I ain't gonna say nothing when Zach,
when Zach and uh Aaron Gordon did it, best players in.
The they're like special dunkers though, that's what we needed.
No more dunks, Bro, it ain't no more yea all
the time plans getting there.
These YouTubers be clowning, Bro. They dunk every single day.
They are basketball players, Bro, they game they shoot three
because you put a million dollars up and think that
would entice people to do it, all right, contest.
But also we just had this conversation, so I also,
I don't want to I don't want to keep like
throwing money in niggas face too.
Like I think everything got a dollar amount to it. Like, oh,
y'all got to play hard.
We're gonna give you money, Like no, some ship gotta
be for the love of the game too, like because
that's gonna bring more out of it than like, yes,
it should be a prize some type of in center.
But at some point, like come on, bro, this is
what we love to do too.
I don't think your million dollars to playing it because
y'all get out their bullship to win it. Yeah, you
got a chance.
Yeah, but then you're leaving it up to the judge
and now you're ready to fight. I'm something, Well, if
you give me for the time other thing y'all need
to do.
How only do you you over the all star you
help pick we have kind of all right, y'all need
to get some niggas who ain't see now that's judges.
Get some mother fuckers who can see straight.
I think NBC doing I think uh the man that.
The mail box. Yeah, and you talked a choice.
Look up.
I mean about listen you feel like like like me
right now, I don't.
I don't want listen, friend, my guy, you don't have
to wishoning to nothing that I'm saying. I want you
just to hear what I'm saying. Let's go all the
way I said the male man, any nigga that played
in the eighties, you can't mother fucking watch these young niggers.
You Pau Paul, you know what I mean. Throwing at water.
I think we got convinced. T Max. Here it is.
You're like, yeah, yeah, the dunk contest because all them
had hops, all of them understand what to look for
some ship like that.
Okay, the judges this year, Kevin Garnet, I'm rolling Tracey McGrady,
Baron Davis, and Jason Richardson. I don't got no live
That's what That's all I'm saying. Listen, That's why I'm
asked y'all because I funk with y'all. Just don't be
with them motherfuckers that just sit up there and just
ship on ship. Give us some solutions. I'm rolling trying
to listen. People listen to trying bro.
I don't be trying it on that, but clearly somebody listen,
y'all went, I just got in there there. Let me
yo heard Now.
My next motion is Derk says, can never do the
dunk Contest again. After that, That's what I thought. That
was a wrestler's.
Listen to joke. He knew Joe.
Y'all ain't no more dunk bro, Yeah right, there's no
more listen it's a kid every day.
Would Nigga's some do.
Which you think about like a horse or some ship
like that, or won't we want some pro Bowl ship
or won't be one like something else different than what
we don't got right now.
I would like to see one B one All Star
Ones or King of the Hill, three dribbles and something.
The only thing I'm worried about with that, Yeah, ones
don't look like how I look on Instagram.
Real lot of facts. God, that's shot.
The next chapter's like you run a team minutes well
making a shot. So I don't know if that make
good TV. Nah, you need a rep too, and you
need a wrap.
If y'all want to five, you got three dribbles or
seven seconds? They have to play off like not live.
They have to just show it like.
That's that's don't worry about what with the one like
they don't really look, don't really go like that in
real life. People playing hard because the three point contest
is going to be the three point that's exciting that's
the best event.
But I'm thinking it's gotta be something else.
You could do some type of shooting, of course, but
may been so exciting.
Yeah, I'm cool with that program. They kept that, but
that's a shoot. It's only so much nigga. I mean,
it's a p him, the league everybody on many ways.
You can shoot the three niggas. I funk with it
because they get hot. They probably the whole rack want talking. Yeah, yeah,
crazy was in it, right or y'all kicked them bat.
I didn't do nothing. I just got in there.
He I don't know what's got, what they got going on.
I supported, I support the women. Shout out to the
w a all.
What's going on him?
Every Yeah, I hope you'll know that we're just walking
around like I might change up a little bit. I
might be like a little more political correct. We all
came roun. I really feel Yeah, he said this nigga here,
I'd be like, No.
I didn't mean to say that. I had to be
to ask you that. No, I really don't know. I
have nothing to do with skill challenge, didn't you. Yeah,
I'm talking about I'm saying when he did that ship bro,
it was look it up. But he missed everything that
he did in that they could have gotten rid of
that ship. You was nervous, bro, you didn't want to
do it. He didn't want to do it first lay up, nigga,
you didn't want to be out there. That's what I'm saying. No,
I tried to win the second time I did. I
was I was trying. Yeah, I was horse. I'll with that.
I think people literally love this ship and they care
about it. So we talk about it. But like you
look around, nobody else cared about MLB, n NFL Pro
Bowls and joke like everything else. Everything else is just
like when it comes to the All Star Game. It's
just like everybody got something to say about it.
Yeah, the only thing that's b.
Now, I missed the layer because Kevin Hart gonna say
for He said, hey, nigga, don't miss the layup.
And what I do. This is the one I was
trying to win.
Oh yeah, this is a different one. This is what
I was trying to win. What city is this?
This might be New York York Yo La Two days Out,
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I want no pastor?
Yeah, went on for this sis.
What the fuck? Damn? How long?
Too long?
To what the hell?
Jared Smith shot man, I don't know what year this was.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying. They bullshit and Bro's thirty
s oh.
Cut this ship off out of the man.
You know him, were saying, don't worry, Abody. I shot.
I shot my first three o the side of the backboard.
Point contest. Damn. I was mad as fuck. I was
mad as fun and I was hurt. Was you nervous? What?
I ain't never been nervous in my life. I'm talking ship,
I'm doing my thing. I'm feeling good.
I went to pick the ball up, Bro, my bicycle shrink, Bro,
I picked the ball up. I shot that motherfuckerf and
from the corner off the side of the backboard in
my homie that morning.
Because they talked me into doing it. I didn't want
to do it. On Bro, we all start, Bro, you
from Radford do the three point contest. Wife and Rfer
never made to the All Star Game. That's right there,
we go. I'm like, all right, yeah, Bro, I was
so nervous the only thing going on in the whole. Yeah, bro,
all they replay.
I did the practice upstairs just in Cleveland, So we
did the practice them upstairs.
I broke a record.
The dude was gassing, like man, nobody never practiced like
this before.
You're gonna do great.
They got you the only thing on the court. I've
never been nervous like that ever in my life.
Kind of pressure, man.
Our start weekend, Like you said, MLB, at least they
put it to where the winning to hopeful the bandage
in the World Series, and that'd be crazy in the
NBA if that happened, because a lot of people be
pissed off.
I think this year is gonna be better. Man, I'm
hopeful because it's l a. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
We got a good mix. I hope this year is better.
And I'm not going off for ratings. I'm not going
off none of that shit. I'm just going off like
all I care about the vibe in the game. Yeah,
I don't even care about Saturday. I went the All
Star Game to be that people watch like they hooping,
you know what I'm saying.
The show then I think it will be like you said,
concentrated effort. Everybody talking about it for years now, even
the player's been more vocal. So I think it'll be
dope for sure.
What was that like for you, though? Make an All
Star team? Hearing your name card? But she was unbelievable, bro,
Like I still can't believe it. You know what I'm saying.
I'll be laughing.
You'll be talking about the one time All Star shit,
but like, like I was cool, you know what I mean,
Like it just came to the point where, you know,
my whole story up until that point, Like I thought
I could do it because the year before I was
like nineteen or something or eighteen and I was twenty
some shit like that, something in that range. And before
the season, Nick Nurse is like, man, we might need
you to score twenty four to twenty five nights.
I'm like, oh, I never had nobody tell me nothing
like that.
I always get like a play defense, get guys the ball, like,
oh okay, they see it. So I'm hooping that year,
you know what I'm saying, I'm like first option type shit.
Pascal was hurt, but it was dope to come all
the way down to that point and then only.
What fucked it up. Was I got hurt.
I hit my knee on the floor like a week
or two weeks before Austin, but I ain't tell nobody
because I didn't want to give a spot at the game.
I was limping around the whole weekend, so that part
kind of ruined. And it was Cleveland, it was ass,
it was cold, it was I didn't have a good
experience like making it to the All Star Game and
being in the locker room. And it was the NBA
seventy five that year when the legends back, so like
it was all of us and all of them, Like
that's something that's something that I'd never forget.
I couldn't never imagined nothing like that.
You know you was there because we had different people
tell us about like when they said Michael Jordan name
compared to everybody else.
What was it like?
So it's exactly what they said, because you gotta think
I mean you like you got like the rehearsal. So,
like I said, we was upstairs, we were taking pictures
and I was kind of like just chilling off to
the side, like behind was watching everybody. I'm looking at Ai,
I'm looking at everybody, and everybody is in there, everybody
except for Mike. So like, you know, the chatter started,
you know, like oh, Mike ain't coming here, don't fuck
with us, or he don't fuck with them. You know,
they got the old beef they got going on. So
all the way down to they're doing the intros, they
walking out, you know what I'm saying, nobody ain't seen them.
So he nobody didn't see him until they caught his name,
that's crazy, until he was walking out, right, But he
walk out, so it was like the seventy.
Five was going crazy.
The guys on the court was going crazy first, so
then when they called him out, it was like he
was like the last one, you know what I'm saying.
So, yeah, he's different in that world. He different.
That's what shows for me because like you know what
the fans think or you know, in media or whatever.
But like for your peers, guys, that's older than you. Guys,
that's younger than you, guys.
You played against, shall respect him to be the guy
in that standing right there.
I was like, damn, okay, that's different. That's what they
be talking about.
Yeah, he number one that make you look at somebody,
that's what they be talking about when they like, ain't
nobody fucking with Mike. I've seen it in real life.
You know what I'm saying.
For sure, he's talking magic. Well was at last somewhere
right there. That's what I need to do All Star weekend,
Isaiah Thomas. That lining up the first one we want
MJ Isaiah Thomas.
I ain't a lot tho, Z ain't going. They're gonna
be banging, Man, gonna fight. Still acting to this day,
They're gonna be banging. What was that moment?
Like, obviously you was in Toronto, you had the corner
stocks of the franchise with Kyle and tomorrow that trade happening.
What was your first reaction to that that it's crazy?
It was like, man, that was like my welcome to
the business moment, you know what I'm saying. It was like,
obviously you have everybody had they welcome to the NBA.
But that was the first thing I was like, Oh,
this shit ain't no game. It's not AAU, it's not
college like. Because I was with Damar in Vegas and
this when the rumors started coming out, and so basically
the rumors started coming out and then they was like nah,
it ain't true. Like I seen him in Masade talking,
I'm not you know. Whatever they talked about they talked about,
but like from seeing them talking that summer league. So
we had a like a team dinner. Some teams do
team dinners that summer league. They bring them up because
he had made All NBA the year before, they bring
him up in front of the whole team, like, hey, damorrow,
you know what I'm saying, All NBA whatever it was,
I forgot the specific award and they're like, yeah, next year, tomorrow,
he gonna be playing defense and he gonna take another
step and we're gonna come back.
And then it was like a couple of days later
the trade came. I'm like, dangn crazy, isn't it crazy?
Game? Bro? Wow?
So imagine you know what I'm saying, just knowing him
and how he felt he got his own you know story,
how it went.
But from my position, I was just like damn.
And then the flip side was the first report was
that Kawhi didn't want to come.
In fact, that made even worse. It was like we
traded our man for somebody that don't even want to
be here.
This was the narrative at the time, but all that
this ship had worked out, Kaui is the ogre.
He's olg to d p U.
I want to show that's the reason why I made
it up.
And then at that point I hadn't played against Kawhi,
I think, but one time that was my first two
years because he was hurt, so I only played again.
I didn't see him. We didn't need to. I ain't
know what he was getting because he was going through
the injury thing at the time, so like, I ain't
know what he was getting. I'm just like, man, damn
Tomorrow is my brother, like the John de Bo man,
Like that's my dude.
So I was fucked up about that.
But then Kawhi came and we was in training camp
and I was like, Okay, I get it, I get it.
I know why they did it. You know what I'm saying.
That a business it was tough hear you talk about
your pot, but just what he was just like I
don't know why he traded for me, but fucking I'm.
Here, Yeah, and like.
That was just the move because you got to think
he really only talked to Kyle and maybe like Serge,
you know what I'm saying here, and there, but like he's.
Not like a big energy guy.
Clearly we see he cool though in real life he
talking way more than what he do to the media.
Like if he come in the room and everybody in there,
he not gonna just be the class clown in the room.
So I ain't really had that many conversations with him.
But his whole thing was just like ship I told
y'all before y'all traded for me, like I ain't.
Doing.
But that makes it even more impressive to me because
like he still came and did what he was supposed
to do. He the first first player to get a
want to done situation like yeah, all right, I got
your ring.
All right, cool.
I can't believe I wouldn't left. I don't know how
you left, bro.
It's him, Yeah, the only person in the history of
the world that would have did that.
That's only yeah, that's too. He got to work from
home for the Clippers. You see what he was on.
He's like, bro, the way you.
Had to be there, bro, somebow have a whole country, Bro,
like bound down, like a whole country said we'll give
you free your rent.
I wasn't throw one of that championship because I don't
do that. I can see it. Low, Oh, don't do it.
I don't want to talk about the Milwaukee Bucks. Nothing.
You don't wonder about that, brother, you were not the
only champion that respect. Before we get before we get
to the ship. Yall reaction Withawi hit that shot to
get over the sixers, that was crazy. Yeah.
I was jumping around like a little kid because you
got to think I had a terrible series basketball of
my life, saying I was just happy we was getting
more game.
You know what I'm saying, Like, I ain't want to
go out like that. My whole probably wouldn't even be
sitting here.
The whole rest of my career would have been different
if we lose that Game seven, because I didn't get
hot till after that.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
I was shipped. I was shipp up until that point.
So to see, like, you know, I'm on the bench.
It was in front of our bench, and I'm like,
oh damn, I'm talking about we all. Was just happy
to get out of that series that they Philly gave
us a hell of a series.
That was a tough team. I know.
It's different times when we talked about it.
That was the being same as that we all grew
to love that Ben Simmons was cold and b to
they had a with Yeah, he was different.
Come on, Jimmy j It was a big ass team.
I think James and was on that team squad. Yeah,
that was a good team.
I was that deal. Bro. He special. That's the best.
That's the best ship I ever seen, like in person,
Like watching him not KD in the playoffs, I ain't
seen the playoffs is different.
You know what I'm saying. K D.
He changed the way I view everything this year because
it's just like it's so easy for him.
Yeah, just and he really be chilling, like he don't
like do too much. He just wait, he can go
a couple of minutes without touching the ball. You won't
say nothing. He's gonna stand in the corner. He ain't
a thirsty who nah. And then he he just don't miss,
like he don't miss. You think make it look easier
him sit kady, Yeah, Shade ship looks so easy. Like
when I watch him play basketball, Yo, he's not eating
sweating bro.
Yeah, I think I'm only saying from the standpoint of
Shitty's seven feet tall, So like watching him shoot a
midiover Winby.
He don't see Wimby. That's crazy, you know what I'm saying.
He don't see bodies, he don't see the help, he
don't see the third guy.
He don't touch the rim. Sh Shaye is special though.
That's kind of how I feel about Shade though, Like
when I watch him, I feel like he don't see nobody.
He gets to that MIDI step back, look like he's
doing the work.
Got what Yeah, he's doing the work was sixty percent
almost yeah, yeah, that's just insane. And he just thirty Saturn,
So it's like yeah, and it's still look crazy. He's
still the greatest score I ever saying that. It's like
you just can't bother him. You know what I'm saying.
You can't.
You can't make him do nothing you don't want to do.
And it's just every day.
So you see KD in the finals though, what was
that like? Actually making it to the finals and it
was like playing in the moment. You played to get
some of the greats too in that situation and you
got your shut off as well.
Yeah, no, it was a blessing. It was an opportunity,
that's all. You want just like have an opportunity to
be there. And still our hardest series with the Philly
series went to Milwaukee. Milwaukee went down two and then
we beat them four times in the row light work
and then we go finals. KD was hurt, so we
win game one easy. Like I remember walking out, like man,
we weren't celebrating or nothing. We was walking out. We
went in the locker room.
It was like, damn, it's sweet, you know what I'm saying,
because they was built to be with KD.
Without KD, we felt good. But yeah, I mean shit,
Steph Clay like to be chasing stuff around. We're playing
Boxing one and Ship in the NBA finals.
And I'm the one. You're the one that's chasing them around.
Like man, it was it was just a credible opportunity,
and you know, being able to make the most of
that Ship was special.
Yeah, you got to get a ring to get some
of the greats too, that's far.
Yeah, And I like I always tell people because they
was like when you go to stuff so good, I'm like, bro,
I'm playing the man in the Boxing one. He still
had fifty in the finals, Like he gave me fifty,
Like and I was in the boxing one and we
was trapping him every time and he was out there
by hisself.
Oh god, you know what I'm saying, Like he said, Guard,
it's different. Kyrie is different from me.
Yeah, because he's like Kyrie don't run no plays, you know,
he no like welcome to this island. Yeah, he's not
passing it. He might dribble twenty seven times, ugly like
I always after the game, like I need to see
the chiropractor and ship like you know what I'm saying,
not go boom, push off like he. I love playing
against Kyrie. He the most challenging for me. Steph is
just like you need to you need to hold full
team because it running off all the screeners and you
can't fall asleep.
You can't.
That's why I hated Garden, Yeah, because I like people
will go one on one.
I know where you're gonna be at.
Yeah, when you start running around, I'm good, it's gone.
I lost him one time, I think in the finals
the whole time I was I lost him one time
he got a wide open three.
Every other time was on him. I just looked like
he was on the other side of the court.
I'm like, you can't even prepare for those like that.
But like, like I tell everybody the toughest person to
guard with de Rose, Like you about Kyrie, Yeah, yeah,
you knew where de Rose was going to be at
and he wasn't doing fifty moves and it was no jumpers.
It's like yeah, rim like, yeah, he's one of my
favorite shout to legend do the easiest to go.
Yeah, but I ain't gonna lie to I'll be I
feel good out there, bro, like you be cooking the guy,
the guys that that that y'all love the guys, everybody love.
I feel good against me off, bro. My thing always
came down to, like how I play.
I wish I would have played more like how I
play a pick up in the NBA, But the way
I had to come in, I had to like.
Go roll by roll by role. Yeah.
I always prioritize winning over like my own ship. Yeah
what I'm saying so, and I can't right, I'm six
feet you know, unathletic. I can't do that ship every night,
but I could make it dynamic to me though, Yeah,
like you're not like super athletic, but you create space
and you get to where you want to go and
you're only six ft.
You strong than the motherfucker he's strong.
But my boy, yeah he wants runs like how like
in the summertime and ship is just different. But when
it's time to like match up against the top guards,
like that's what I like to do.
That's why. And I like your guard him too.
We know you hurt now, but that's why we was
Like I was so high on your team. You got
hurt because I believe in your competitive spirit, like last
year you're strike.
Yeah you did say that, God, but when you got
d like that's what for you. That ship sucked me up.
That was more so like I I was fucked up
that I got hurt, but like just the opportunity.
Yeah, I'm saying the season. He havn't the season. We
haven't they missing this ship out of you know, I
just know what i'd be doing, you know what I mean.
And then once you get to the end of the season,
it's like you want to rise to the to the
level too, so.
You are all year. Yeah, I mean I'm.
Pushing, but six months is crazy, Like nobody really come
back in six months. But I mean that's a lot
of ask you know what I'm saying, I'm not ruling
it out.
Let's get back by playoffs, bro, I'm not that would
be insane.
It would be insane. I'm not even keep playing with people.
I'm coming but like it would be crazy. But I'm
not ruling it out.
And that on the Morning show every day?
How many times you've probably been traded on the Morning show?
I been and trade lub.
I know that's probably annoying his hell, especially around then.
I was like, right, trade could come, y'are specifically trade traded?
Coming on? I never seen him the sack. I never traded.
I'm always l a. I don't want to talk about
the Rocks so much as you're right here, But I
never traded you because I think got a way for
you to get healthy. Yeah, but if you were going
to travel, get rid of some of the bigs though,
and bringing in somebody to feel the board.
At the time they got your red Shepherd tee take
alumni baby read.
We ain't gonna talk too much about that. Yeah, I
like read read. They've been called cocaine curry. Yeah, they
got to stop. Clay was just like, hey, respect this stuff.
Play was nothing. Certain thing.
I ain't like Clay was disgusted by this. She was like,
nobody walk out. I hate when they do ship like that. Man,
it's bad.
They did it just in going with Joker Like, it's
just it's just I've seen that argument you'll had the
other day. All the same the same building. Just ain't building. Yeah,
let's get the same the same building because he said, no,
I'm not doing that. Wasn't it was the city though, Yeah,
he said. I said they're in the same building. He said,
they're not in the same city.
Man, I ain't.
I think that we're doing both of them in this
service by comparing them.
There we go for it.
That's what I say. Two all stars, two killers. He
is so sure he is media trained. Yeah, I think that.
I think we're doing both of them and fires And
I told her, listen, he is my dog. Like I
talked to him. He talked to him like like we talked.
You know what I'm saying.
I tell him to his face like when they came
with that Joker shop, I said, stop doing that ship
for real, like doing that because first of all, you
want your own name god.
Second of all, y'all.
Really don't play nothing alike outside of the the flashy ship.
You know what I'm saying. He coming from the top
of the key like he on some ship. But like,
come on, bro, I just think Joker, it's crazy. But MS.
Ship Bread comes saying.
He said it sounds different, though I'm saying, as far
as I said, they.
Are nowhere near similar. They not. Besides other bullshit passing,
I was talking about the quality, they dominate the gap.
I think what you what you finished with was like,
I think the ranking.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's y'all having a y'all having
a different conversation. I think if you ranking the top
bigs in the NBA, he belongs in that conversation.
That's a fact.
I just think the gap between one and two may
be bigger than the.
Gap between two, three, four, and five like he is.
Like Jo was saying, Joker is like a like an
all time great already four big can down.
I don't play basketball no more better than everybody with
Grew White played him.
I played him multiple times where he's had thirty forty
point triple doubles and the ball doesn't touch the rim
and this is this is three MIDI float lay up
free throw. He like multiple times. Yeah, the ball, don't
touch the rim, bro.
I give it.
Yeah, he all time great. I was in shade young boy,
the young boy just on the rise. I'm just saying,
like he got to be a really good player.
Been buses as a couple of times. That's in fact,
so that's the beautiful thing about the game. Like you
still got lace them up. You know what I'm saying.
But I would I would never compare.
Him to But the whole argument start because I kept
saying quick calling him baby joker.
Yes, I was like ship, he was saying that he
got this. I hate com it's just a flash. But
that's like you said.
And if he were playing, look he was, he's going
at him off to Yeah nice, he's a dog. Yeah
squad right now, it's crazy, y'all. Y'all got some kills
over there.
Man.
Thompson is one of the best athletes we've ever seen
the basketball. Doing something every night is just like that'shit crazy,
special special.
When he learned how to shoot, he's going NBA.
It just he just now like adding ship, like his reads,
like knowing where to pass, knowing where the help is
coming from. Like he just not adding that because that's
a whole nother aspect to his game that he ain't
really tapped into yet, and he got touched.
He a dog, and he worked hard. He's one of
my favorite favorite kids. Bro.
Like, let me ask you this, Like being out did
it make you like obviously you're gonna play.
For another ten years? They ever make you like damn,
I could be a coach too? Yeah, Like hell no, I.
Think it's showing me that I don't want to coach
out there because like I'll be going home with headaches
and ship you know what I'm saying.
You know, like it's just like there's only so much
you can do. The facts. I like to teach more
than I like to coach.
And I always knew like I would give back to
the game somehow, like like, oh man, you would be
a coach. It's like, Bro, the NBA grind to do
that shit for whatever, ten, fifteen, twenty years and then
like go back to that again, like I got kids,
Like I just can't see it, but I would definitely
be around the game in some capacity, you know what
I'm saying.
And I know I can do it. I'm doing it now,
you know That's why I I'm doing it in a
lesser role. I don't disrespect our coaches, but like I'm
helping them with the in between between the players, you
know what I'm saying.
So I got a coach out there on the court anyway.
Yeah, PG become a coach and you're like, I could
do it now. I told I told Rich and them,
like what so maybe I'll retired for five six years.
So if it's fifteen years of coaches making twenty twenty
five million a year, that might see me out there
now the game yelling, he assistance.
Yeah, he ain't gonna thie damn the money going up.
Yeah, you give me a hundred coach, because you're going
you go on the same trick.
I'm back. You want to be back at the bench,
coach man the same thing. Yeah, you want to do
the same hotels and everything.
Yeah, the same tree. We're making the coaching stad right now.
We got Fred, we got tig Evon Turner, a player specialist.
Yeah, right on.
The head coach. I want to see Rondo coaches. I
just Rondo too serious though, Yeah you can't.
That's a hard transition, bro.
He takes me to play our team in high school
next year with them, Like if we want to play
all Yeah.
He's smartest. Yeah like it.
It'd be hard sometimes for them from them guys to
coach to the game. Ain't ain't all about that either.
Sometimes it's way more simple than then, you know what
I'm saying. So I think sometimes them God struggled. But
he definitely should be with somebody's staff. He specially you
got a special basketball man.
Definitely. Hell yeah, I like talking who for you? Yeah?
For the rus you got? Can't talk about Yeah? Respect
what man? I'm here, bro, he retired.
I want to hear a conversation to retire a lot
of dance, you know what I'm saying. When I need to,
But you want to do like though, I want to
know because we joked about our parade all the time.
Real celebration.
Million people. That's crazy.
I don't even know if like it's supposed to be
that many humans in one place at one time.
We started.
First of all, we win in the Bay Game six,
Go crazy? Ain't ship going on in San Francisco. Jump
on the plane to Vegas.
Want to play?
We go to Vegas for day two days, and then
what happened was we that's when Drake was running around
with it so like half the team went with Drake
to La and then the other half went to Toronto.
So like me, Pascal norm some of the younger guys
did we go back to the city.
So were the first one to the city.
Yeah, the other guys went to La So we came
and got the love first. So boom were outside, We're
doing our things a couple of days. Then we had
the parade and I just remember like we had to
drive like it was like a ten minute drive from
you know where we started to where we finished. That
shit took like five six hours because it was just
so many people outside and then we started drinking and man.
Ship, yeah, it was. It was.
That's That's like the most craziest thing I've ever done,
the parade that whole summer.
But the parade was and we had a whole summer,
had a.
Whole summer, bro Yeah, damn oh summer run an old try.
I mean you take the trophy, like, yeah, you're going
to run. You go back to Vegas for some of.
The inner running bad come back to the city. Yeah
you hear you there, you everywhere?
What's up, Champ?
Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like my ship was
even better because like I went crazy in the fourth quarter. Yeah,
the game six, it was like that ship was on
people's mind. Yes, so now I'm lit.
And then Kawhi don't go no, I mean he go places,
but like he yeah, was more I'm outside.
You're the face. Yeah, I don't get none of that.
What was like you? You was on the team. Okay,
your clip your clips still going by project. They played
before the playoffs start, Yo, do what you walking through
the hall.
It's like you act like you playing like he didn't
play in the fun he did him playing like three minutes.
Look it up, he played. I think I missed like
six been with him on Twitter.
You said they put all his shides in the finals.
It's this game. You got respect, You got minis in
every game. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on,
jeffcause I'm gonna help you out here. Twenty one. When
you came in the league two thousand and nine, so
you played, Yeah, come on, bro, I had a hell
of a crew. We always praises if I'm doing this
because you retired.
Yeah yeah, he was like, come on, bro, you my
moniscous was gone.
We're gonna keep it real because I ain't funking with him.
No more. He wasn't supposed to be there. That nigga
didn't have no knees. Bro, my going, Yeah, he got
signed off the love my Dog. What I'm saying, that's no,
I was good. I tore you can.
I'm saying, like I toured with Milwaukee. Remember I was
in Boston. I had came up point game. I got
here playing one on one.
With Jordan Noor.
Wow legend, I said, I can't be in my knee y'all.
Damn crazy, Bro, I play bro joking and ship man.
I don't stop doing that.
I love my nigga. But because he was like, Bro,
you're done right playing. Don't let niggas really play with
this nigga like that. Everybody let niggas let me want
a chance to get to him. You know what I'm saying,
because I don't play about my niggas. But I'm just
saying that year, bro, it's y'all had a different finals experience.
I mean one thousand percent.
Yeah, that's that's just like just going from Toronto to Milwaukee,
you just start the.
Different. People want that much Houston, Atlanta on Miami. That's
why I was in Houston. Know that's ain't gonna be
partying with We're there likery about me.
You can feel, you can feel like the buzz and
the energy in the city, like you know, the team
the city know you know.
So is gonna be filtered low. You know, I go
to tell you the Josh will come home, run it back. Yeah,
we're gonna be like this. I hope y'all wouldn't want
it after there, boy, I seem to do it though.
You got yeah, bro, you gotta get healthy.
Y'all get healthy. All crazy what you think about this
rookie class though? We got young a lot of young
guys getting too. You got bj you got Cooper Flag
con Kinnupple. They represent right now, a lot of first options.
I know the league is a little bit different now
the rookies get to do whatever they want to. But
how has it been obviously been observing the games and
stuff like that.
Man, I like it.
I think I think this is one of the better
classes that we done had, you know, like just from
guys that's really you could see what they're gonna be
right away. Yeah, Because then then a couple of these
drafts we had, you know, top picks coming and be
old players or come off the bench and don't play,
and you know.
Ship like that, that is weird because that's not what
we grew up on.
Fact Like, usually when you get drafted, you know, they
try to make you like a franchise guy. So to
see to see the young guys this year, I mean,
it's a lot of good players in this draft. And
then yeah, obviously everybody's looking forward to the next year.
But I'm looking at this year like Ship. I mean,
they got they got some at least six, seven, eight
of them, you know what I mean. A whip really, God,
that's contributing on winning teams. You got Queen, you got
the care from Memphis. Yeah, centa coward beginning, He's supposed
to be a dukee. He out here do so right
now doing this little brot Dylan dealing out here, killing
the limited minutes right now.
My fears, everybody, my boy.
Rookie class is decent. You got dealing, Yeah, yeah, Harper
this ship. And then the kid from Toronto is good too,
Yeah yeah, cemb hold it down. You know, some bully
game out there. I like this class. I'm excited more
excited about next year draft class. Yeah, just because the
freshman man in college basketball. So many good firstmen, there's
a lot. I've just seen the kid from Houston. I
went to the Houston game. He's rock and he's a pro.
They got the kid from Arkansas. That's really good. Stupid
obviously the top the two boozer, which you I think about.
I ain't watching him play yet, dog, he good. I
just think he like Tyler Hans Bro. Everybody getting mad
at me good effect, disrespectful like, no, you gotta think
on top of Hans Brough when he was at Carolina,
not Tyler hands.
That's my red laughing bro. Disrespectful, Bro.
You don't know how happy I am to see you laugh, Bro,
Just to see you smile would have made my day.
Strange, crazy broems Bro.
No junk yard dogs and pulling for three? You could
do that? He add to his game, called me to Joe. Uh,
it's twins though, right? What happened to the other one?
But he there too?
Here du he's having he's not having a good year. Yeah,
hes gonna be there.
Remember h from high school. See, I don't watch you
sports that much no more. I used to.
I really don't even like college basketball for real, But
I've been paying attention to the twin can hoop.
It's just he's just star like Cooper got the Twin two. Yeah,
it's star studdy.
Man.
He got a younger brother.
The dude that man.
Yeah, remember he be classed up? Is he just went
up you are? Yeah?
He would see what I mean crazy, that's family, he
said he got. I'm in hard Grady. I'm not trying
to be crazy. I'm just saying they had to do that.
Bro.
Journeys is different.
He didn't go with him.
No, he's that man right now.
Yeah, he went to Heentyork. Yeah he's a main university though. Yeah,
he's a freshman. I believe a flag. Yeah, shout out
to a flag man here. Yeah, shout out to the family.
Hold it down all right now, look checking me out.
This ain't it's disrespectful, bro, Like, come on, broycle t
o team playing your want champanship, bred and nobody at
any given times thout the tall hairs was gonna be
the number one pick in the NBA drawn.
How tall was tall? Hands? Bro? Six line? What saying?
But and one? No? Wat the movies, bro, that's what
he do? Okay, okay, okay, I see the screen he
can do this. They got that that's the only thing
he and he can do like this and pull up
you have a Do you have an NBA? Yeah? Cop
right now?
Yes?
Who he played like? They say probably al Horfords crazy
boom seeing man, I ain't even sucking with child.
No, it's not just respecfct bro, that's not man.
I know I should have got go ahead and tripping.
Listen say his NBA cop is and it might not
be ja Billis because he's be wild man.
That hiss Brody, there we go, jis random.
Check out some of the.
Saying in the league. I got respect years chance.
Taland Hans bro ain't never make compearance of none of
them people. Yeah when a lottery pick, y'all gotta stop, Bro.
He should was the best, one of the best college
players ever. I'm with you respected them play though I haven't.
I can't speak with this world.
I'm gonna tall right now for they want one game
and they've been putting to everybody number one coordination.
I like that. You guys think.
Yeah, people, what I'm saying are actually good. It's good
Tyler hands.
I hope it was. I hope it was all coming
out he was he was.
It just sounds crazy, like you know how you go like, uh,
the kid, what's the kid from Kansas Darren p he
liked the next Kobe and then you go to the
monster like he liked the next k D and you
go my man, like, oh yeah, the next he.
Had. He had a good career.
I ain't played for the Raptor, one of the best,
one of the best salon players on the horn and
now been here answer that we all here that game
versus him and the Bonsa. They said that was the
siding factor. Youven though, you know what I'm saying.
I don't base my thoughts on that. Darren Peterson is
crazy for sure, but a j yeah, you can't teach hip. Yeah,
I want to say it with some space. I want
to say, with some space.
I feel like the last one was like like Wiggins
was like that for me, Like when I watched the
Man Kansas, I was like, but you.
Gotta think college you it's everybody right here. You know
what I'm saying.
I want to see the bouncle with some more space
around him. But that boy, that boy from Kansas special.
Bro.
Yeah, he's sharp, like he shot for that age to
be that sharp skill set sharp depending on who get
the pick too. Oh yeah, because sometimes no matter what
you need, you know what number one pick you have
to get a j I think they should.
But if the King's the one pick. Were talking about
Kings get the number one Darren Peterson because.
They don't.
But you go shoot ball whatever you want to. Yeah,
your Hawks, I pray that they don't get no One picked.
Oh man, we got the bad draft. No disrespect to him,
but young zachly us exactly.
Exact. He got Henryes on this nigga. Then you gotta
go practice in the G League and then they bring
you back up to play.
Bro.
I just hate that he got pick took Alex told
him to take him there.
Yeah, but that whole draft was it was due they
had They had read as the number one player in
that draft.
But yeah, we couldn't.
Could have got stepped on Castle, y'all the draft to
read a number one. They would have hated y'all, especially
having Trey, they would have I.
Would have took Castle, whe I would have took Alex.
I mean we needed a big yeah, y'all needed respect
the big Oh, y'all need a big way y'all picked
what was there to pick. We ain't know much about him.
That's what I didn't like. But anyway, I ain't trying
this my hawks.
No shouts to the Hawks.
Man. Well, yeah in town yesterday, Tapen, Yeah, I talked
to that yesterday. Man.
Yeah, send us some talks, bro.
I guess can I get some Houston gear? Bro? What
you needed? Some shorts under the shorts, some compressions short
because that nigga aint gonna lie for it. It got cold.
Nigga had on these wind breakers, I said, Damn, I
had on some tights and will be flying everywhere. Come on, man,
on that note, you can't find it, So the site
to be here telling people that ain't grab somer.
Shout club fund twenty do com man. We want some
tight all right, Fred. We appreciate you, bro telling people
that can find a pot as well. Man, my boy
getting to it off the court man, sure.
Anywhere, man, look it up. I don't know. We just
we're just having fun.
Now.
Well I'm hurt so type of Instagram but we can
us all that.
Yeah, pull up whatever, man. I appreciate you all having
me though. I appreciate you man for sure. Man like
we said shout to boost Muggle family, tapped in shouts
to stock X.
You know the vibes be here the lace. We need
a dub Man for sure. Gotta get this money.
I need a twenty thousand dollars play Bro. I don't
want to talk that. The rockets. You play real quick,
you gonna rock. Shout out and sall rocks and we're appreciated.
Off get out the volume.
M hm.

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