Club 520 - Fred VanVleet on WINNING NBA Finals, GUARDING Steph Curry, Durant vs. SGA
We’re back with Season 4, Episode 30 of Club 520, where Jeff Teague, DJ Wells, and B Hen are joined by Fred VanVleet of the Houston Rockets. FVV talks about winning an NBA Championship alongside Kawhi Leonard on the Toronto Raptors where he guarded Steph Curry for the entire series. Fred and Jeff tell stories about each making an NBA All-Star game where Jeff missed a layup in the skills competition, and Fred hit the side of the backboard in the 3 point contest. The guys debate whether Kevin Durant or Shai Gilgeous-Alexander have a more fluid offensive game, as well as debate between Nikola Jokic and Alperen Sengun.
Timeline:
0:48 - Episode Start
2:00 - NBA fines
6:00 - High school hoops
7:30 - B Hen knowing every restaraunt
9:00 - NIL messing up basketball
13:30 - Jeff realizing Fred plays defense
15:45 - Transition to the NBA
18:00 - Bron and Bronny to Ohio State
23:45 - "Take the money on the table!"
27:00 - All-Star snubs
31:00 - Changes to All-Star Game
34:00 - How to fix the dunk contest
40:00 - All-Star 1v1
42:00 - Jeff's terrible skills challenge
43:30 - Fred's terrible 3-point shot
45:15 - Making an All-Star game
48:45 - Lowry and DeRozan for Kawhi trade
52:30 - Fred winning a title
54:00 - Kevin Durant vs. SGA
55:30 - Facing Steph in NBA Finals
01:00:00 - Jokic vs. Sengun debate
01:04:45 - Coaching experience
01:07:00 - Raptors vs. Bucks championship parades
01:12:30 - Flagg, Edgecombe, and elite rookie class
01:14:00 - Cam Boozer is Tyler Hansbrough
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I hope y'all not running out of people in church. If so, please call the hotline you need some help. Man. Last turn at least been shout to stock X keeping us Frost and the set. We got a special guest in the building. We got a champ in an all star here man, but as usual introducing last about me? You know you always respect, so we got that in the All Start. Yeah me, bro, we gotta gotta go. One bumped into my dad in New York. Man, I'm was able to make this. What happened for sure? Man? My dog should be hearing out the prailes. Are you what? Cool and nasty? Man? For real? Let's get to it today. Yeah, we were waiting this episode for a long time. Man. Still to my right, my dog young natch, your young team got you what? I'm cooling? Brother, I'm starting to like lemonade and spray. I don't know what that's about. It's kind of good man, some random up, that's what I got that. It is too late for the for the it's life for something else. Respect what up? Don't worry about it? Like we said, man, all start and Champion, but one of our favorites, oh five twenty man, come on, Houston Rockets and the unguarded power Dog Fred van Fleet, Big dog. Appreciate you sliding on this, man, I appreciate you for having me one of my favorite players the way he be lying on the ress. Cause let's start everything came home seen for the record. Yeah, hey man, it would be like that sometimes. You know what I'm saying. It's like, once you make the decision that you're gonna go for it, you might as well go all the way. Yeah, they're gonna take that money tab no matter what. What's the same by the way too, no matter what I mean. It varies, but like if you're gonna if you're going wild out, you gotta go all the way with out here. You gotta get your money's worth, get your money's worth. That's good to know. Then I got a couple of good ones. You know what I'm saying. That's good now, do y'all see that on yall statement? Like the little part missing, they go ahead take it out like immediately. They take should like you'll support, Yeah, come off the top. That's come out to check. That's going right off the top. But you could you could fight some of them boom. Yeah the ones I did, you can't know. That's so much hard. I was actually happy the last one that I was. I had a very good phone call. Like I appreciate y'all. You know what I'm saying. I thought it was gonna be worse. I thought it was gonna because he jumped. Like when he jumped, it made like like I hit him. Got my phone. After the game, they like, oh we hit the ref. I'm like, man, I'm six ft away from him. He jump, he flinched. Yeah, you're a good him. That damn knowing that all of them is the same, that's pretty dope though. The regular tech yeah, regular check is what it's sorry something like that, you know, keep God of your life. You might be ran Ricky. I think Moms was like fifty k okay, what about what about the niggas the big eyebrow, the one that said something about. Dudes sony brother, Oh yeah, so you just he was like nah, I cussed him out, but he kind of was like I ain't know. It was your mama, b. This nigga that resurface recently too did. Yeah, this is a crazy list right here. The first one, two bands six and ten, three eleven to fifteen, four, sixteen and up, Damn Hold is Down. And the local boy Damn five half piece. It's crazy. Then It's like the main thing for me was like you see the reputation then, like I had a whole reputation. I still got the reputation, but the rest of that year it was ugly. I mean, I don't shoot no free throw. It might be some decent now because I'm the president again, but yeah, other than that, it was ugly, like I'm like, yo, y'all painting me like I'm one of them. Yeah. When he talked all the time, what's your name in that? Rico y zero, Rico different. Yeah, it's hard to get that back man Midwest guy for Shaw. Growing up in Illinois, hoopsing was crazy. Chicago. How was that? Like, I know, obviously you was killing, but they say you didn't get as much like love or deserve well deserve love because you didn't play on the A U circle around the. White Yeah, it was cool. I mean we played everywhere. We played Indiana a lot, probably more than the Illinois. I mean, you go to Chicago sometimes, but Indiana had the better tournaments. You're from Maryville to one area. They had the speech Joint out here. Yeah. We used to play the Indiana teams and my class was all the good teams, So I should love playing. Who was your class? Yogi, Oh, Yogi Indiana legend Indiana. The league, yeah speech Yeah, Yeah, we played a couple. I think Glenn Robinson was your Yeah. Yeah, so I played against them, Hannah Perera like all of them teams the didas joint. So ship, we come out here and get some bumping. Then Illinois, it was it was tough. Jabari Parker was younger than me. But that that that era. But yeah, I mean, you know you circ and then like Macurby fire and Yeah, by the time I got to the point where I was like a teenager, I thought I thought I was grown. So it's like they was already too late. They coming like with the shoe bag and all that ship, like come play for us. I'm like, man, I'd rather just play my homies because I'm not from the city. I'm from down the way. So are you from Rockford? Yeah? Hey, y'all got a motherfucker restaurant. Y'all got salt down there? It's so good. Yeah yeah, that's about like forty five minutes. Do you know that? Yeah? Yeah, what wrong? Yeah, promise nigga salt. It's so good, bro, And that right, that's the best one. Why Jesus Christ, I got a sea bag, I got rid By, But like, why did you ass potatoes? Hunh did you go why me, how I got Yeah, I'm. Gonna stay in the city. You can stay outside of Rockford, you know what I mean. Ain't a bad drop to go over to the city forty five minutes from Allah with free I know why you was out expectfuly. I had to move. A little tournament, going geta Martha the Rock Big Show quick overhau. It's definitely out the way, that's funny. Yeah, So it was cool, like I'd rather play my homies and you know, trying not to get caught up in that other ship. And that was it. And then by the time I was in high school, we was beating all the good teams, so I was super cool. We just ain't had the shoot ship, the sponsorships and all that. Ain't crazy now obviously was about the college situation where you went to Man you made your move saying whatchit state? With the N I L and stuff. Now, how you think it would have been, especially the way I had that campus rocking when you was there. Yeah, we could have never. We could have never had the teams that I had, and I would have been gone over there. Yeah, one hundred thousand, I'm out, So I don't even need too much. But it is money in Wichita and the coach that we had, yeah, he would have got the money out the community. But yeah, I mean it's so much, bro, you eighteen nineteen, Like that's just a lot of money. Bro. You know what I'm saying. It's really fucking up the game in terms of like your mindset, because my whole mindset was like, I'm going to Wichitar, I'm kind of out the way. I ain't really have like no college life, like the shit you see when you're growing up, like the parties and all that which you time have none of that shit. You go to the bar and I was in a lab. I'm like, man, I'm trying to go to the league. I'm gonna have no fun in the league. So if we would have been getting paid back then it would have been stupid. Yeah, you talk about that all the time, Like you said, if I'm getting paid one hundred bands, two hundred bands at eighteen, where's my hunger at? Because I already made it that most people it would have been over for me. Over It was already he's seen me my rookie year over man. But it just I don't know. I think that I'll come from a crib too, though it was cool. Yeah, yeah, I'll be cool with that little cheese bro. Think about if you get in. Let's say you're a top, top player, you get a million your first year, and somebody tell you you can get this for the next four years. I'm not thinking about the NBA at all, all million dollars. If I'm the top, I'm out of there for sure. But it's a lot of other players that, like I'm saying, I'm just speaking for myself. Like I wasn't on those draft no never, none of my four years, so it's like I had to keep But if I would have been getting like a seven fifty or something, I would have been like, you know what I'm saying. Overhead went to Miami. Nigel ranging up, start throwing parties, Alklahoma got another bang. I would have been thinking nothing about that. Would have bought it. You know me, I'm crap about Lambo. Ain't no bills. If you had sent some to the crib dollars, make sure mom and them straight dad, five bands a mom outside, you're a teenager, still really real live? Yeah, I was burning maxwell that thing I'm saying. But if I'm there, I still want to go to the league. Did you have like aspirations to go to the leagu or did you want to be the best college player you. Want to Well, no, I hated college. I wanted to go to the league. My home every day trying to get to the league. I just was crazy enough to think I was going to go right away, you know what I'm saying. I didn't even start my freshman year, Like, I came off the bench till like the once we went to the tournament, I started playing more and more. And then my sophomore year we had a real good team. We was number on the country that year. Yeah, so that's when the scouts started coming to practice and ship. Okay, I'm lit, but I had a good miss ship. I set up with Sweden College. I wasn't trying to lead too fast, you know what I'm saying. I was trying to get drafted. That was my main thing. Like I thought I could work up the draft boards, but that shit don't work like that. Na, Like you said, I had a with Well Clanny was there? Yeah, Ron Baby, Yeah, Ron Baker. I had a week. I had pros on that team. Yeah, we had a good ass team, bro. But I think I had a good coach too, and I was just because, like we got a lot of young guys on our team. Now, like a lot of the kids that's come to the NBA now, they don't know how to play dawn. So like I was just happy that I had a good coach and who taught me how to play. So by the time I got to the league, I kind of you know what I'm saying, transitions here. I had a good foundation to go off of that helped me a lot. Yeah, you alreay talking about that email as a Hogs Spital coach, like I'm having to teach stuff that we should learn the elementary school now that kids they're not kids, but against the NBA and having to learn how to pick a rollan shit. They learned their game backwards. Now, Ship, you do you do all the difficult ship first? Yeah, you know what I'm saying. By the time you get you know, it's like a certain age, like you can't shoot by the time you eighteen, you probably cooked. You know, you ain't how it is some fixed eight and just so gifted that you can't deny it. Damn It's like the art. If you can't shoot right now, you kind of caught. Yeah, NBA, it's hard. It's hard to add it. I expect of the job. If you can't shoot by eighteen and you got to be six eight. I'm saying, because you got to have something, got to jump off the screen. We used to scout. We have to say, what's this superpower? Right? Yeah, So if your superpower is I can't find it when I'm looking at you, ship you cook. I need to come in the gym and be able to see your superpower immediate, like he can shoot. Shooting the most important thing to get somebody into the NBA right now. Yeah, I think, So what what's what they're. Paying Yeah, I think I mean size, just being tall, just you know, that's always gonna win athleticism because that's what it is. Just like you gotta be a freaking nature out there. That's what everybody got to survive. But I mean, shooting is the separator to me, Like if you can shoot, the better, the more better you can shoot, the better your chance is going to be. Because that's what they're paying for right now. Stason and shooting, you know what I'm saying. And so if you don't have that, you just have more of a disadvantage, so your other ship gotta be off the rule. Never got to be a superior athlete much better. Yeah, you gotta have a competitive nature to like, that's the one thing I always appreciated about your game, even being a smaller guard, Like I wasn't a defender at all, but you was actually known for your defense. So when you came in the league, I was like this, my fucker really be guarded. I was like laughing at him, like trying hard as fuck, like I don't know. And then he started scoring. Always been a good shooter, but then he started to adding more and more to his game, but he was known for defense. Like when I watched you in the finals, guard and stuff, Yeah he really guarding stuff, Like he's doing a good job. Like what the fuck, man, you gotta be cool with that. I knew niggas was laughing at me. I ain't square, you know what I'm saying. I just don't talk like I just from me being in Houston. People just realize I'm not from Canada, you know what I'm saying, So like you don't know, I can't. I ain't had no VC, I ain't have no nothing, And like got out the mud you know what I'm saying, but I'm out that bitch picking up full court. I remember my rookie year. I think I played in Oka see or we played OKC and I picked up Russ full court, and. I remember everybody's Likeyo, what the fuck you doing? Man? Like nobody picked him up full court. I'm like, shit, I'm trying to figure it out, you know what I'm saying, Like, I gotta find a way somehow fucked. So I was willing to do whatever damn to make my way. So now that was the way I got in. It was like, all right, you gotta play d you gotta change the game and change the temple. That was like the two things that I tried to do, and then the offense came later. I was just about to ask you that, like when you transitioned from college to going to the NBA, what was that like, bro? Man, it was cool. It was hard because I was trying to make it like I was trying to find some security, you know, from being undrafted, yeah, not having a guaranteed contract. I was just trying to get like some security like a year or two then I could work on my game. So that first part was tough. And then once I realized, like I wasn't playing, I was just enjoying it, you. Know what I'm saying. I'm in the league. I'm chilling. I mean skittles on the bench, like I'm just watching this show. You know. That's how I go and there, Like when you don't have no chance of playing, you really just chilling, traveling and you outside for sure. So I did that. But I worked on my game every day and I studied every day, you know what I'm saying, And I just stuck close to the vest that I had. And so that was like that first initial transition. And then once I started playing, then I built it a little bit, you know, more from there. But at first I was just happy to be here. I'm still happy to be here, but I was just super happy to be in the league at that point. Yeah, obviously a lot of respect. How you got to the NBA and came grinding like major way in the situation, very admirable. But it's funny now you went to the G League and made the most of it and got back in the league. Now you got people in the G League trying to go back to college. Like that is crazy, Like, yeah, I'm. In the G League. Let me go back to my school. The Times is wicked what I think about that, because I don't know. I got a different couple of opinions on that because I feel like should lame. But you gotta get back. If I played in the NBA, if I guarded Fred van Sleet and I played the whole season or two in the NBA, NIGGA, I'm not going back to goddamn at Boston University. I'm not doing that, bro. But if you're not getting I think it's been nobody that did that. I think it's like it's been Bro. It's to be people. That's how many games he playing in the league. They said, That's what I'm saying, Like, Bro, if you if you because they're young, right, That's what I'm saying. They're young. Yeah, So if you young and just ship you jumped early and they ain't work out for you, they getting paid anyway, all that college should have, right, you should have. Just really the new G League, the better league. It's a better G league. The only thing I was gonna say was we let the the Europeans can come up whenever that's a fact. It could sign with college. They can go pro. They can do it. There's no restrictions on him. Let's see, I ain't know bout no more European. So they don't say I'm not arguing saying I'm saying. But then, like the kid from Baylor got all attention. I don't know how many of hers done it. Ye seeing the kid from Baylor, but like. He ain't impacting the game, like you know what I'm saying, Like if he was coming, like he was a National Player of the Year and be like, all right, you're tipping freshman still Bailey, if he get to play college, he's gonna have a run. He's gonna kill. He's gonna kill. You know what I'm saying. But ship they pros now, So you know pros got play against pro That's like Charlesdago when they played forty yesterday and they start beating they was just like ge League drop out. I'm that state. Yeah, Now, if you go back, you gotta kill. That's my problem. If you go back average ten, they. Got Bigga's putting pressure on down back average twenty five, then. I don't make more money. Yeah, like everybody pros at this point. Yeah, never stop you I said. Anyway, so he going back. He ain't never go, but it's your time. Old cool twenty he's at in fightly twenty with Bronnie probably twenty three. Want probably twenty three. Now that was the thing. They will to suck it up and brought it, went back to USC had the fire. That's Hord, but he already bad. I think Brian and Brownie should go to a house state. Bron all three of them anywhere twenty three, so you do he bron got four years. He need to go to market. I'm cool with that. Well that's like the Yeah, they average age like twenty five. Yeah, yeah, I told him hold on, hold one of them. Nobody say nothing about that. We will resparing to take the show. And s see look after the age of twenty three, that's COVID year. We good money. I just know they all seen just being pros and went back to play with the young pros. That's crazy because if I'm not going to if I'm not going and I don't have better years the aj de Basso or oh boy from Kansas, it's quiet bro. I think that. I think the real issue they're not better than them and Jeff right, how you coach in high school. So like, I think the high school kids get the short end. Yeah, all of this shit because it's like the coaches just in the portal or they're going to get yes, bro pro So like that, it's harder for a high school kid to get recruited and come in and play. You gotta be like stupid nights. You gotta be McDonald's all American. Now. Yeah, today's show is brought to you by our family hard Rock Beat Florida Sports Book. If you haven't signed up for hard Rock back Man, listen, it's a perfect time now tap in right now. They launch a brand new offers this week just for you new customers. It's available to all users. You definitely don't want to miss this one and listen. If you're in Florida in Jersey, you can pull up to the casino hall. Rock Bet also offers new promos every single day, so. If you're listening to this later, you got any day of the week to check it out. 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But I like it because like if you you know a lot of people want to go high major and they go there and they don't play right away or don't get a chance, so they might play at junior senior year. Now you can go to a lower level school or D lorerd D one me and major. If you're really good, you're gonna shine there. I agree with you on that. I like that. I'm saying, do you bring these motherfuckers back to the to the college. Do they get drafted now it's quiet, it's over. You ain't going back back then? Life is crazy. Wait to y'all drafted twice. Make sure y'all trying to get that higher level for overseas. You'll remember this, dame, But I went drafted twice. It's crazy. I wait for the person to go back and really killed. I wait the one twenty five, go back to college and go to the final four. Bro, I want to see that. Yeah, I do too. I do. I think should be the same. We're gonna let Europeans do, or people from overseas or foreign people like, let them come. Whatever they should be able to do, we should be able to do. And the NBA is going to step in at some point and make it makes sense because like, ultimately the league would be better if those leagues are better. If college and g league is better, that's gonna give us better players too. They'll step in at something. League gonna have to step in because I would never go to I wouldn't go straight to the g L. You I would never go to college I'll go in to G league first and see if I can make it to the league. I can't going to college. Yeah whatever, step on college campus first for what. Yeah, I got a chance to go back. I go overseas. I'll do all that stuff first. Damn, that's funny for sure. Man, that is crazy. I can go back. It's a hell of a fall back player. But it just looked crazy, bro, Like we were talking about it. You've been on campus with fucking nineteen year old yeah, Bro, I mean that's college. So I see why people will go though, Like true, more money. They need to. Open the straight out of high school again though, because like yeah, because Darreon Peterson the best. That was pointless bro. Yeah players, Yeah, it's pointless to be in college right now. I know they're making a lot of money, but what we're doing, bro, yeah, the both of them is pro. Yeah we're black. He did a year, come on, pointless years. Yeah, yeah, that is crazy. Shout the stack house, stack house. I got to my Jamal Mashburn. Bro. Cooper flag would have been top five this year as well. Bro, he was this year. He reclassed for reason. I'm like, nah, bro, respect, I know that the Freshman's cold. But Cooper Flags just never have fifty. Bro said he wouldn't have been top up. Yeah, he said he'd have been number six. He put the doctor Lamar on this. I ain't bad at it. I get it from I'm rolling as well. But Cooper Flags never drop fifty. Cooper he nice if he was at Duke with game losing right now, Oh my god, yeah he nice. He proud be the number two picks age. Yeah yeah, hes gonna be a step aheader and he got a year on now he nice funck with his game. Back to you, Bro, when you first got your real footing in the league, how that feels? Man? You got your shot? Man? Uh, my first deal, My first deal was two years, and I signed another two years. Yeah, and then so it was like two years eighteen man, Man. That was it. I was cool. I never looked back. I ain't going back, you know what I'm saying. I played a little bit like forty games year. I was like a backup my second year and then I got a contract, so I'm like fucking Then my third year we win the chick. Hell yeah, it's like shit, I'm lit, you know what I'm saying. Twenty five, got paid, made some money. I was. I was like, I'm here because like you think you're good, you got confidence, you know you're good. You play against your peers and shit like that, but you're always waiting on us, like like I said, some security, you know what I'm saying, Especially when you come in and you see like a guy that's drafted lottery or the first round, they get four five years to figure it out. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So you had time, Like my shit was like you just waiting on the opportunity. You know what I meant. Down no deals, no hell no. I mean I always tell people like they're begetting that shit misconstrued, bro, Like you only can operate with the deal that's on the table. It's a fact what's on the table. So you be turned down some shit that's on the table for some shit that is imaginary. Yeah, so whatever the best deal on the table is, That's what I'm going every time. That's that's about right there, right man. I still like for gave Quinn g his money, but that QG, what's the hell of again? I told Cam Tomas said, though, yeah, on. Leave that change. I like that money, bro, You don't know what's gonna happen. And the part about the n b A is themn the dirty if you don't take it. Yeah, the president still. It's just business. Yeah, I think even more so the basketball just business? Like how can you negotiate with some ship that you don't even have available to you? Like, I know I'm worth more than that, Like, all right, you work, they tell you what you were, Yeah, you work, market, I'm willing to pay you. So because then when you don't, you're in the tunnel trying to smack people. Market. You got hands and feet the people that disrespect your paycheck. Did you do something crazy the first piece of change? Nah, I really be chilling. I bought it roly. Yeah, that was like my first thing. I bought it. Really. I already bought my Mama crib when I on my first deal, I was making like five hundred thousand my first year that my second was nine hundred. So I bought my Mama crib. And then man, we went to Vegas, though we definitely went to Vegas. The gate took all the guys to Vegas. We signed, and then we flew with the with the management from Toronto to Vegas for summer league, and yeah we had a time. We had like a three four day trip. Yeah, fresh after, fresh off the. Bag, I bought a roll leade. That was it. Though I don't know. I just he's from a small town. Yeah, yeah, different. He had a fight for that spot. He was like, I'm enjoying this, Bro, I'm happy I got it. I'm un I was like. A regular person before I was in the NBA, Like when I was in college, I was lit, but like, bro, I was, I was a regular person, Like nobody know who I am. You know what I'm saying, Like I wasn't coming in I'm just a superstar and everybody kissing my ass. Like I had to grind for that ship. So that's it was a little bit easier for me when I got the money. Now, I still fuck some money up. No, yeah, for sure, for sure, saying as we all do. But I think like jury and ship like that cars. But well no, I worked too hard for mine for that. Like you said, getting into rotation, you look at that squad of people I had. Everybody, damn it is still around, still thriving. A Yeah, yeah, he got squad. Come on, bro, everybody became act and Pasy got his first All Star bisch Peasy. Yeah, you know, my god, freaky piece, my god, peace Skills for a time first ballot now being ballant. Skills, I'm fucking with it. I just think, you know, Pea Skills, you all at me if you feel the way I thought you had to be in the winning team to make the off start game. No, I don't hate nobody all startized, but it's the East Man. Anything goes in the East. He's still living off the twenty fifteen snub of lamellow ball. That's what he all right now. Last year, Yeah, like LaMelo didn't make it, Bro, and peace Skills got in. That's bullshit it, Bro. I think some real like none of the rules. I think when you're the president, Look, I think when it comes down to it, now, when you get to that point, you you're gonna pick somebody that's already been in there, somebody that's never been in Like I said, you gotta you gotta have repeat years. Yeah, I'm defending my man obviously. At the same time I think that dude, dude like you, you will pick somebody that's already been an All Star. Then you will pick somebody that's not it. Don't work like oh he not the m v P that give to somebody that never had it before. They do, like doing that ship boter Fatigua is real MVP. But I don't know this the coaches, So I think you know the coaches pay for the reserves. That's that's what you need to be talking to an international player though. Yeah, so you know they got the international world world create USA versus the world. You ain't rolling, I ain't mad, don't. Because I don't want fred you feel me he I don't want to ben throll the too bush but no, I want to hear what you think. But because there's too many rules to make the All Star team is I swear to god the needle boves every year. But trash bro Skills is a killer. Oh god he can. Oh my mama, you should be no all smar. So you like Team Horrible Bro like MPJ over him. Yes, yes, I left my track left. I left my fuck at six seven. I left my trash ass team that didn't fuck with me. Yeah, and I'm over here killing now Bro. No, I'm killing. I got my own team, like I left a championship team. My fault not trash ass a championship team. Now I'm the man, I'm average twenty five. No, he's very deserving. I think I'm never taking him over Pascal anything basketball related. No, y'all real basketball players though, Bro, But All Star Game, nigga throw that my fuck between his legs. The other thing. That's the other thing too. That'd be my argument, Like, I think those lists should be different lists because who're gonna put the. Best All Star Game on? Yeah? All Star Game should always have a Trey Young, LaMelo Kyrie. Yeah, that's exciting, but we're talking about just like the best players or like the best season. I'm not taking him over past caw Bro. I respect you now if we if we're doing the draft, don't God get me passed every time. I'm talking about for the excitement of this game, kid, like respect Bro to see lamelow. Man as it's always Bro's African too, so you know on the world ship. Yeah, but it's. Always guys that's deserving to be All Stars that don't make it. Every year. It's gonna be a snub every year. Be out. You just don't want it to be. Yeah, be I deserve to be in there. That's a factor year because they caslateding there this year New York. Yeah, that is crazy, respectfully, I mean it's costing the towns, but also year. I'm sleeve. But the eat this, I mean, he really popped. It's numbers like yea, his numbers still say saying this nigga about to be on team. He's playing like a what's kind of numbers? Count two and thirteen? It's gonna be respectable because Cat, for sure. What top forty East All Star? Playing like an All star? Bro, we just expected to play like twenty and eleven, all right, twenty eleven. Twenty twelve, I'm round up. I got around that. I'm respected, twenty twelve solid. I'm killing bro, all these niggas. I just I just it's a bad year for Cat. That's all. I'm gonna join and B numbers I know, I know, I ever fotify because I'm playing. A different look for the league because people are pulled away from it. So what right? So now, because I'm in the seat now and I'm in these conversations, what would y'all change. Go back to the regular jerseys? Now? That all out? And B I know he'll play that much. But twenty seven seven is fucking crazy balling. Now that I'm talking to the motherfucker president, get this off, my god, Damn, let's get it, Litersten, I don't get right. All these goddamn I get it, Bro, the foreigners, they run the league, top players, I get it, But all these people playing these the American play the foreigner and then you got them play the G league niggas. Then you play the American team, then the winners out of that play each other, then the first to twelve like all that bullshit. Bro, go back to what it was, a regular nigga match ups, like the best twelve versus the best twelve, no matter where you're from, you like East West or yeah, East West or just blended. We just want to see the All Star Game be a regular NBA game again. BRO with you, I'll be having these same conversations. But I think I think the fans got more more input than they think they got because Adam, ultimately the league is listening to what the fans want, what they want to see. He don't have like a bias either way, you know what I'm saying, But do gotta fix the shit. We gotta address it, you know what I'm saying that I think my my thing was I said the jersey. It was a simple thing, like I come on back to like the jerseys Nike used to do, the shoes. Everybody had like a spacific shoot. And I think you just get the best twenty four, the top twenty four, and figure out a way to separate the All Star from the All NBA ship. You know what I'm saying, Because it's like two different things. I might want to be an All Star just for my contractor for my purposes on some Jimmy Butler ship, but I might not even actually want to play. That's the fact, you know what I mean. Or I'm hurt. Yeah, so then you're taking away from somebody else that could get in there too. So no, I'm with you. But NBC Olympics coming up, you know, that's where the world shit comes from. And obviously Dabeling and the European stuff I'm certain years on. Has played in America. Man, damn man, take that having games or take that ship to China, bro and do all these ugs playing each other? Bro? Got that I will play. Ain't bring back the vibes man, the something bro it used to seeing Jordans and goddamn iris in Shack and whoever else Bro like that, though, I think he will talk to a couple of young guys this year that said they're gonna they're gonna go put on the show. So I'm hoping I ain't gonna say who it is, but women said that. He said, don't know if everybody playing hard, but I am. I'm hoping that young the young next guys, once the old guys get out the way, the young next guys. Can bring that back because like the old I mean, but bro, twenty. Two years in the road, like you know what I'm saying, and he put on the show every year, but it's just hard like for them to live somewhere and then put them in these bullshit cities. No, I don't want to see you go ahead, Shay, Yeah, call him Mountain me and yes, Bro, we need to have to play harder. Yeah, you ain't do that. We need we need we need to have to play what do you shoot? All left hand shots? Left year? We need to play locky, bro, because the dunk contest already gone. Bro, that's the Smith rings up. Yeah, it's not going back. What's what's that should cook? What's my what's my white boy from Georgetown, y'all. NBA y'all didn't wash that nigga and rinsed him off and runky out and washed him and rink like she's cooked. He is the fourth time NB A that and that nigga can't stay in the league. It's like they put the pop ups l the next game. Like this, wik he might get a ten day tomorrow. Bro, that might be a hundred thousand. Listen, don't play with my emotions. Y'all be having this. Niggas go and do all this ship jump over people and cars and ship sign the nig nigga played twelve games to We'll tell you next year. Yeah, Bro, it's me because Jackson has a lot of times though. But listen, if you get all that that, if you get the name that you want in there and they go out there, I'm gonna tect you and miss and do all that that. People gonna kill to have a dunk contest between Listen, nobody disrespect to Max. Didn't nobody give a fuck if he made it. No, I'm with you on that. VJ and them young niggas get out there and now I didn't get out there and try some crazy ship. It's gonna be exciting. Yeah, they might miss it, but at least you get to see the best players in the league. Or you didn't even got to be the best players. It could be a medium tier guy. I look at. Somebody a good example for me, Like I think Jaylen Brown did it, yeah a year or two ago. Yeah, or when you know what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. They don't know. No turbo dunk don't help, Bro. I ain't Mike. I ain't gonna say nothing when Zach, when Zach and uh Aaron Gordon did it, best players in. The they're like special dunkers though, that's what we needed. No more dunks, Bro, it ain't no more yea all the time plans getting there. These YouTubers be clowning, Bro. They dunk every single day. They are basketball players, Bro, they game they shoot three because you put a million dollars up and think that would entice people to do it, all right, contest. But also we just had this conversation, so I also, I don't want to I don't want to keep like throwing money in niggas face too. Like I think everything got a dollar amount to it. Like, oh, y'all got to play hard. We're gonna give you money, Like no, some ship gotta be for the love of the game too, like because that's gonna bring more out of it than like, yes, it should be a prize some type of in center. But at some point, like come on, bro, this is what we love to do too. I don't think your million dollars to playing it because y'all get out their bullship to win it. Yeah, you got a chance. Yeah, but then you're leaving it up to the judge and now you're ready to fight. I'm something, Well, if you give me for the time other thing y'all need to do. How only do you you over the all star you help pick we have kind of all right, y'all need to get some niggas who ain't see now that's judges. Get some mother fuckers who can see straight. I think NBC doing I think uh the man that. The mail box. Yeah, and you talked a choice. Look up. I mean about listen you feel like like like me right now, I don't. I don't want listen, friend, my guy, you don't have to wishoning to nothing that I'm saying. I want you just to hear what I'm saying. Let's go all the way I said the male man, any nigga that played in the eighties, you can't mother fucking watch these young niggers. You Pau Paul, you know what I mean. Throwing at water. I think we got convinced. T Max. Here it is. You're like, yeah, yeah, the dunk contest because all them had hops, all of them understand what to look for some ship like that. Okay, the judges this year, Kevin Garnet, I'm rolling Tracey McGrady, Baron Davis, and Jason Richardson. I don't got no live That's what That's all I'm saying. Listen, That's why I'm asked y'all because I funk with y'all. Just don't be with them motherfuckers that just sit up there and just ship on ship. Give us some solutions. I'm rolling trying to listen. People listen to trying bro. I don't be trying it on that, but clearly somebody listen, y'all went, I just got in there there. Let me yo heard Now. My next motion is Derk says, can never do the dunk Contest again. After that, That's what I thought. That was a wrestler's. Listen to joke. He knew Joe. Y'all ain't no more dunk bro, Yeah right, there's no more listen it's a kid every day. Would Nigga's some do. Which you think about like a horse or some ship like that, or won't we want some pro Bowl ship or won't be one like something else different than what we don't got right now. I would like to see one B one All Star Ones or King of the Hill, three dribbles and something. The only thing I'm worried about with that, Yeah, ones don't look like how I look on Instagram. Real lot of facts. God, that's shot. The next chapter's like you run a team minutes well making a shot. So I don't know if that make good TV. Nah, you need a rep too, and you need a wrap. If y'all want to five, you got three dribbles or seven seconds? They have to play off like not live. They have to just show it like. That's that's don't worry about what with the one like they don't really look, don't really go like that in real life. People playing hard because the three point contest is going to be the three point that's exciting that's the best event. But I'm thinking it's gotta be something else. You could do some type of shooting, of course, but may been so exciting. Yeah, I'm cool with that program. They kept that, but that's a shoot. It's only so much nigga. I mean, it's a p him, the league everybody on many ways. You can shoot the three niggas. I funk with it because they get hot. They probably the whole rack want talking. Yeah, yeah, crazy was in it, right or y'all kicked them bat. I didn't do nothing. I just got in there. He I don't know what's got, what they got going on. I supported, I support the women. Shout out to the w a all. What's going on him? Every Yeah, I hope you'll know that we're just walking around like I might change up a little bit. I might be like a little more political correct. We all came roun. I really feel Yeah, he said this nigga here, I'd be like, No. I didn't mean to say that. I had to be to ask you that. No, I really don't know. I have nothing to do with skill challenge, didn't you. Yeah, I'm talking about I'm saying when he did that ship bro, it was look it up. But he missed everything that he did in that they could have gotten rid of that ship. You was nervous, bro, you didn't want to do it. He didn't want to do it first lay up, nigga, you didn't want to be out there. That's what I'm saying. No, I tried to win the second time I did. I was I was trying. Yeah, I was horse. I'll with that. I think people literally love this ship and they care about it. So we talk about it. But like you look around, nobody else cared about MLB, n NFL Pro Bowls and joke like everything else. Everything else is just like when it comes to the All Star Game. It's just like everybody got something to say about it. Yeah, the only thing that's b. Now, I missed the layer because Kevin Hart gonna say for He said, hey, nigga, don't miss the layup. And what I do. This is the one I was trying to win. Oh yeah, this is a different one. This is what I was trying to win. What city is this? This might be New York York Yo La Two days Out, Chef three Mixed Showdown is about to go up in the kitchen, getting real active, be here. I know you tapped in. Bro. Yeah, Man, Chef's going face to face with the M Chrispy Chicken. Strips, baby and the Hot Honey Sauce t everything live. 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Jared Smith shot man, I don't know what year this was. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. They bullshit and Bro's thirty s oh. Cut this ship off out of the man. You know him, were saying, don't worry, Abody. I shot. I shot my first three o the side of the backboard. Point contest. Damn. I was mad as fuck. I was mad as fun and I was hurt. Was you nervous? What? I ain't never been nervous in my life. I'm talking ship, I'm doing my thing. I'm feeling good. I went to pick the ball up, Bro, my bicycle shrink, Bro, I picked the ball up. I shot that motherfuckerf and from the corner off the side of the backboard in my homie that morning. Because they talked me into doing it. I didn't want to do it. On Bro, we all start, Bro, you from Radford do the three point contest. Wife and Rfer never made to the All Star Game. That's right there, we go. I'm like, all right, yeah, Bro, I was so nervous the only thing going on in the whole. Yeah, bro, all they replay. I did the practice upstairs just in Cleveland, So we did the practice them upstairs. I broke a record. The dude was gassing, like man, nobody never practiced like this before. You're gonna do great. They got you the only thing on the court. I've never been nervous like that ever in my life. Kind of pressure, man. Our start weekend, Like you said, MLB, at least they put it to where the winning to hopeful the bandage in the World Series, and that'd be crazy in the NBA if that happened, because a lot of people be pissed off. I think this year is gonna be better. Man, I'm hopeful because it's l a. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. We got a good mix. I hope this year is better. And I'm not going off for ratings. I'm not going off none of that shit. I'm just going off like all I care about the vibe in the game. Yeah, I don't even care about Saturday. I went the All Star Game to be that people watch like they hooping, you know what I'm saying. The show then I think it will be like you said, concentrated effort. Everybody talking about it for years now, even the player's been more vocal. So I think it'll be dope for sure. What was that like for you, though? Make an All Star team? Hearing your name card? But she was unbelievable, bro, Like I still can't believe it. You know what I'm saying. I'll be laughing. You'll be talking about the one time All Star shit, but like, like I was cool, you know what I mean, Like it just came to the point where, you know, my whole story up until that point, Like I thought I could do it because the year before I was like nineteen or something or eighteen and I was twenty some shit like that, something in that range. And before the season, Nick Nurse is like, man, we might need you to score twenty four to twenty five nights. I'm like, oh, I never had nobody tell me nothing like that. I always get like a play defense, get guys the ball, like, oh okay, they see it. So I'm hooping that year, you know what I'm saying, I'm like first option type shit. Pascal was hurt, but it was dope to come all the way down to that point and then only. What fucked it up. Was I got hurt. I hit my knee on the floor like a week or two weeks before Austin, but I ain't tell nobody because I didn't want to give a spot at the game. I was limping around the whole weekend, so that part kind of ruined. And it was Cleveland, it was ass, it was cold, it was I didn't have a good experience like making it to the All Star Game and being in the locker room. And it was the NBA seventy five that year when the legends back, so like it was all of us and all of them, Like that's something that's something that I'd never forget. I couldn't never imagined nothing like that. You know you was there because we had different people tell us about like when they said Michael Jordan name compared to everybody else. What was it like? So it's exactly what they said, because you gotta think I mean you like you got like the rehearsal. So, like I said, we was upstairs, we were taking pictures and I was kind of like just chilling off to the side, like behind was watching everybody. I'm looking at Ai, I'm looking at everybody, and everybody is in there, everybody except for Mike. So like, you know, the chatter started, you know, like oh, Mike ain't coming here, don't fuck with us, or he don't fuck with them. You know, they got the old beef they got going on. So all the way down to they're doing the intros, they walking out, you know what I'm saying, nobody ain't seen them. So he nobody didn't see him until they caught his name, that's crazy, until he was walking out, right, But he walk out, so it was like the seventy. Five was going crazy. The guys on the court was going crazy first, so then when they called him out, it was like he was like the last one, you know what I'm saying. So, yeah, he's different in that world. He different. That's what shows for me because like you know what the fans think or you know, in media or whatever. But like for your peers, guys, that's older than you. Guys, that's younger than you, guys. You played against, shall respect him to be the guy in that standing right there. I was like, damn, okay, that's different. That's what they be talking about. Yeah, he number one that make you look at somebody, that's what they be talking about when they like, ain't nobody fucking with Mike. I've seen it in real life. You know what I'm saying. For sure, he's talking magic. Well was at last somewhere right there. That's what I need to do All Star weekend, Isaiah Thomas. That lining up the first one we want MJ Isaiah Thomas. I ain't a lot tho, Z ain't going. They're gonna be banging, Man, gonna fight. Still acting to this day, They're gonna be banging. What was that moment? Like, obviously you was in Toronto, you had the corner stocks of the franchise with Kyle and tomorrow that trade happening. What was your first reaction to that that it's crazy? It was like, man, that was like my welcome to the business moment, you know what I'm saying. It was like, obviously you have everybody had they welcome to the NBA. But that was the first thing I was like, Oh, this shit ain't no game. It's not AAU, it's not college like. Because I was with Damar in Vegas and this when the rumors started coming out, and so basically the rumors started coming out and then they was like nah, it ain't true. Like I seen him in Masade talking, I'm not you know. Whatever they talked about they talked about, but like from seeing them talking that summer league. So we had a like a team dinner. Some teams do team dinners that summer league. They bring them up because he had made All NBA the year before, they bring him up in front of the whole team, like, hey, damorrow, you know what I'm saying, All NBA whatever it was, I forgot the specific award and they're like, yeah, next year, tomorrow, he gonna be playing defense and he gonna take another step and we're gonna come back. And then it was like a couple of days later the trade came. I'm like, dangn crazy, isn't it crazy? Game? Bro? Wow? So imagine you know what I'm saying, just knowing him and how he felt he got his own you know story, how it went. But from my position, I was just like damn. And then the flip side was the first report was that Kawhi didn't want to come. In fact, that made even worse. It was like we traded our man for somebody that don't even want to be here. This was the narrative at the time, but all that this ship had worked out, Kaui is the ogre. He's olg to d p U. I want to show that's the reason why I made it up. And then at that point I hadn't played against Kawhi, I think, but one time that was my first two years because he was hurt, so I only played again. I didn't see him. We didn't need to. I ain't know what he was getting because he was going through the injury thing at the time, so like, I ain't know what he was getting. I'm just like, man, damn Tomorrow is my brother, like the John de Bo man, Like that's my dude. So I was fucked up about that. But then Kawhi came and we was in training camp and I was like, Okay, I get it, I get it. I know why they did it. You know what I'm saying. That a business it was tough hear you talk about your pot, but just what he was just like I don't know why he traded for me, but fucking I'm. Here, Yeah, and like. That was just the move because you got to think he really only talked to Kyle and maybe like Serge, you know what I'm saying here, and there, but like he's. Not like a big energy guy. Clearly we see he cool though in real life he talking way more than what he do to the media. Like if he come in the room and everybody in there, he not gonna just be the class clown in the room. So I ain't really had that many conversations with him. But his whole thing was just like ship I told y'all before y'all traded for me, like I ain't. Doing. But that makes it even more impressive to me because like he still came and did what he was supposed to do. He the first first player to get a want to done situation like yeah, all right, I got your ring. All right, cool. I can't believe I wouldn't left. I don't know how you left, bro. It's him, Yeah, the only person in the history of the world that would have did that. That's only yeah, that's too. He got to work from home for the Clippers. You see what he was on. He's like, bro, the way you. Had to be there, bro, somebow have a whole country, Bro, like bound down, like a whole country said we'll give you free your rent. I wasn't throw one of that championship because I don't do that. I can see it. Low, Oh, don't do it. I don't want to talk about the Milwaukee Bucks. Nothing. You don't wonder about that, brother, you were not the only champion that respect. Before we get before we get to the ship. Yall reaction Withawi hit that shot to get over the sixers, that was crazy. Yeah. I was jumping around like a little kid because you got to think I had a terrible series basketball of my life, saying I was just happy we was getting more game. You know what I'm saying, Like, I ain't want to go out like that. My whole probably wouldn't even be sitting here. The whole rest of my career would have been different if we lose that Game seven, because I didn't get hot till after that. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I was shipped. I was shipp up until that point. So to see, like, you know, I'm on the bench. It was in front of our bench, and I'm like, oh damn, I'm talking about we all. Was just happy to get out of that series that they Philly gave us a hell of a series. That was a tough team. I know. It's different times when we talked about it. That was the being same as that we all grew to love that Ben Simmons was cold and b to they had a with Yeah, he was different. Come on, Jimmy j It was a big ass team. I think James and was on that team squad. Yeah, that was a good team. I was that deal. Bro. He special. That's the best. That's the best ship I ever seen, like in person, Like watching him not KD in the playoffs, I ain't seen the playoffs is different. You know what I'm saying. K D. He changed the way I view everything this year because it's just like it's so easy for him. Yeah, just and he really be chilling, like he don't like do too much. He just wait, he can go a couple of minutes without touching the ball. You won't say nothing. He's gonna stand in the corner. He ain't a thirsty who nah. And then he he just don't miss, like he don't miss. You think make it look easier him sit kady, Yeah, Shade ship looks so easy. Like when I watch him play basketball, Yo, he's not eating sweating bro. Yeah, I think I'm only saying from the standpoint of Shitty's seven feet tall, So like watching him shoot a midiover Winby. He don't see Wimby. That's crazy, you know what I'm saying. He don't see bodies, he don't see the help, he don't see the third guy. He don't touch the rim. Sh Shaye is special though. That's kind of how I feel about Shade though, Like when I watch him, I feel like he don't see nobody. He gets to that MIDI step back, look like he's doing the work. Got what Yeah, he's doing the work was sixty percent almost yeah, yeah, that's just insane. And he just thirty Saturn, So it's like yeah, and it's still look crazy. He's still the greatest score I ever saying that. It's like you just can't bother him. You know what I'm saying. You can't. You can't make him do nothing you don't want to do. And it's just every day. So you see KD in the finals though, what was that like? Actually making it to the finals and it was like playing in the moment. You played to get some of the greats too in that situation and you got your shut off as well. Yeah, no, it was a blessing. It was an opportunity, that's all. You want just like have an opportunity to be there. And still our hardest series with the Philly series went to Milwaukee. Milwaukee went down two and then we beat them four times in the row light work and then we go finals. KD was hurt, so we win game one easy. Like I remember walking out, like man, we weren't celebrating or nothing. We was walking out. We went in the locker room. It was like, damn, it's sweet, you know what I'm saying, because they was built to be with KD. Without KD, we felt good. But yeah, I mean shit, Steph Clay like to be chasing stuff around. We're playing Boxing one and Ship in the NBA finals. And I'm the one. You're the one that's chasing them around. Like man, it was it was just a credible opportunity, and you know, being able to make the most of that Ship was special. Yeah, you got to get a ring to get some of the greats too, that's far. Yeah, And I like I always tell people because they was like when you go to stuff so good, I'm like, bro, I'm playing the man in the Boxing one. He still had fifty in the finals, Like he gave me fifty, Like and I was in the boxing one and we was trapping him every time and he was out there by hisself. Oh god, you know what I'm saying, Like he said, Guard, it's different. Kyrie is different from me. Yeah, because he's like Kyrie don't run no plays, you know, he no like welcome to this island. Yeah, he's not passing it. He might dribble twenty seven times, ugly like I always after the game, like I need to see the chiropractor and ship like you know what I'm saying, not go boom, push off like he. I love playing against Kyrie. He the most challenging for me. Steph is just like you need to you need to hold full team because it running off all the screeners and you can't fall asleep. You can't. That's why I hated Garden, Yeah, because I like people will go one on one. I know where you're gonna be at. Yeah, when you start running around, I'm good, it's gone. I lost him one time, I think in the finals the whole time I was I lost him one time he got a wide open three. Every other time was on him. I just looked like he was on the other side of the court. I'm like, you can't even prepare for those like that. But like, like I tell everybody the toughest person to guard with de Rose, Like you about Kyrie, Yeah, yeah, you knew where de Rose was going to be at and he wasn't doing fifty moves and it was no jumpers. It's like yeah, rim like, yeah, he's one of my favorite shout to legend do the easiest to go. Yeah, but I ain't gonna lie to I'll be I feel good out there, bro, like you be cooking the guy, the guys that that that y'all love the guys, everybody love. I feel good against me off, bro. My thing always came down to, like how I play. I wish I would have played more like how I play a pick up in the NBA, But the way I had to come in, I had to like. Go roll by roll by role. Yeah. I always prioritize winning over like my own ship. Yeah what I'm saying so, and I can't right, I'm six feet you know, unathletic. I can't do that ship every night, but I could make it dynamic to me though, Yeah, like you're not like super athletic, but you create space and you get to where you want to go and you're only six ft. You strong than the motherfucker he's strong. But my boy, yeah he wants runs like how like in the summertime and ship is just different. But when it's time to like match up against the top guards, like that's what I like to do. That's why. And I like your guard him too. We know you hurt now, but that's why we was Like I was so high on your team. You got hurt because I believe in your competitive spirit, like last year you're strike. Yeah you did say that, God, but when you got d like that's what for you. That ship sucked me up. That was more so like I I was fucked up that I got hurt, but like just the opportunity. Yeah, I'm saying the season. He havn't the season. We haven't they missing this ship out of you know, I just know what i'd be doing, you know what I mean. And then once you get to the end of the season, it's like you want to rise to the to the level too, so. You are all year. Yeah, I mean I'm. Pushing, but six months is crazy, Like nobody really come back in six months. But I mean that's a lot of ask you know what I'm saying, I'm not ruling it out. Let's get back by playoffs, bro, I'm not that would be insane. It would be insane. I'm not even keep playing with people. I'm coming but like it would be crazy. But I'm not ruling it out. And that on the Morning show every day? How many times you've probably been traded on the Morning show? I been and trade lub. I know that's probably annoying his hell, especially around then. I was like, right, trade could come, y'are specifically trade traded? Coming on? I never seen him the sack. I never traded. I'm always l a. I don't want to talk about the Rocks so much as you're right here, But I never traded you because I think got a way for you to get healthy. Yeah, but if you were going to travel, get rid of some of the bigs though, and bringing in somebody to feel the board. At the time they got your red Shepherd tee take alumni baby read. We ain't gonna talk too much about that. Yeah, I like read read. They've been called cocaine curry. Yeah, they got to stop. Clay was just like, hey, respect this stuff. Play was nothing. Certain thing. I ain't like Clay was disgusted by this. She was like, nobody walk out. I hate when they do ship like that. Man, it's bad. They did it just in going with Joker Like, it's just it's just I've seen that argument you'll had the other day. All the same the same building. Just ain't building. Yeah, let's get the same the same building because he said, no, I'm not doing that. Wasn't it was the city though, Yeah, he said. I said they're in the same building. He said, they're not in the same city. Man, I ain't. I think that we're doing both of them in this service by comparing them. There we go for it. That's what I say. Two all stars, two killers. He is so sure he is media trained. Yeah, I think that. I think we're doing both of them and fires And I told her, listen, he is my dog. Like I talked to him. He talked to him like like we talked. You know what I'm saying. I tell him to his face like when they came with that Joker shop, I said, stop doing that ship for real, like doing that because first of all, you want your own name god. Second of all, y'all. Really don't play nothing alike outside of the the flashy ship. You know what I'm saying. He coming from the top of the key like he on some ship. But like, come on, bro, I just think Joker, it's crazy. But MS. Ship Bread comes saying. He said it sounds different, though I'm saying, as far as I said, they. Are nowhere near similar. They not. Besides other bullshit passing, I was talking about the quality, they dominate the gap. I think what you what you finished with was like, I think the ranking. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's y'all having a y'all having a different conversation. I think if you ranking the top bigs in the NBA, he belongs in that conversation. That's a fact. I just think the gap between one and two may be bigger than the. Gap between two, three, four, and five like he is. Like Jo was saying, Joker is like a like an all time great already four big can down. I don't play basketball no more better than everybody with Grew White played him. I played him multiple times where he's had thirty forty point triple doubles and the ball doesn't touch the rim and this is this is three MIDI float lay up free throw. He like multiple times. Yeah, the ball, don't touch the rim, bro. I give it. Yeah, he all time great. I was in shade young boy, the young boy just on the rise. I'm just saying, like he got to be a really good player. Been buses as a couple of times. That's in fact, so that's the beautiful thing about the game. Like you still got lace them up. You know what I'm saying. But I would I would never compare. Him to But the whole argument start because I kept saying quick calling him baby joker. Yes, I was like ship, he was saying that he got this. I hate com it's just a flash. But that's like you said. And if he were playing, look he was, he's going at him off to Yeah nice, he's a dog. Yeah squad right now, it's crazy, y'all. Y'all got some kills over there. Man. Thompson is one of the best athletes we've ever seen the basketball. Doing something every night is just like that'shit crazy, special special. When he learned how to shoot, he's going NBA. It just he just now like adding ship, like his reads, like knowing where to pass, knowing where the help is coming from. Like he just not adding that because that's a whole nother aspect to his game that he ain't really tapped into yet, and he got touched. He a dog, and he worked hard. He's one of my favorite favorite kids. Bro. Like, let me ask you this, Like being out did it make you like obviously you're gonna play. For another ten years? They ever make you like damn, I could be a coach too? Yeah, Like hell no, I. Think it's showing me that I don't want to coach out there because like I'll be going home with headaches and ship you know what I'm saying. You know, like it's just like there's only so much you can do. The facts. I like to teach more than I like to coach. And I always knew like I would give back to the game somehow, like like, oh man, you would be a coach. It's like, Bro, the NBA grind to do that shit for whatever, ten, fifteen, twenty years and then like go back to that again, like I got kids, Like I just can't see it, but I would definitely be around the game in some capacity, you know what I'm saying. And I know I can do it. I'm doing it now, you know That's why I I'm doing it in a lesser role. I don't disrespect our coaches, but like I'm helping them with the in between between the players, you know what I'm saying. So I got a coach out there on the court anyway. Yeah, PG become a coach and you're like, I could do it now. I told I told Rich and them, like what so maybe I'll retired for five six years. So if it's fifteen years of coaches making twenty twenty five million a year, that might see me out there now the game yelling, he assistance. Yeah, he ain't gonna thie damn the money going up. Yeah, you give me a hundred coach, because you're going you go on the same trick. I'm back. You want to be back at the bench, coach man the same thing. Yeah, you want to do the same hotels and everything. Yeah, the same tree. We're making the coaching stad right now. We got Fred, we got tig Evon Turner, a player specialist. Yeah, right on. The head coach. I want to see Rondo coaches. I just Rondo too serious though, Yeah you can't. That's a hard transition, bro. He takes me to play our team in high school next year with them, Like if we want to play all Yeah. He's smartest. Yeah like it. It'd be hard sometimes for them from them guys to coach to the game. Ain't ain't all about that either. Sometimes it's way more simple than then, you know what I'm saying. So I think sometimes them God struggled. But he definitely should be with somebody's staff. He specially you got a special basketball man. Definitely. Hell yeah, I like talking who for you? Yeah? For the rus you got? Can't talk about Yeah? Respect what man? I'm here, bro, he retired. I want to hear a conversation to retire a lot of dance, you know what I'm saying. When I need to, But you want to do like though, I want to know because we joked about our parade all the time. Real celebration. Million people. That's crazy. I don't even know if like it's supposed to be that many humans in one place at one time. We started. First of all, we win in the Bay Game six, Go crazy? Ain't ship going on in San Francisco. Jump on the plane to Vegas. Want to play? We go to Vegas for day two days, and then what happened was we that's when Drake was running around with it so like half the team went with Drake to La and then the other half went to Toronto. So like me, Pascal norm some of the younger guys did we go back to the city. So were the first one to the city. Yeah, the other guys went to La So we came and got the love first. So boom were outside, We're doing our things a couple of days. Then we had the parade and I just remember like we had to drive like it was like a ten minute drive from you know where we started to where we finished. That shit took like five six hours because it was just so many people outside and then we started drinking and man. Ship, yeah, it was. It was. That's That's like the most craziest thing I've ever done, the parade that whole summer. But the parade was and we had a whole summer, had a. Whole summer, bro Yeah, damn oh summer run an old try. I mean you take the trophy, like, yeah, you're going to run. You go back to Vegas for some of. The inner running bad come back to the city. Yeah you hear you there, you everywhere? What's up, Champ? Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like my ship was even better because like I went crazy in the fourth quarter. Yeah, the game six, it was like that ship was on people's mind. Yes, so now I'm lit. And then Kawhi don't go no, I mean he go places, but like he yeah, was more I'm outside. You're the face. Yeah, I don't get none of that. What was like you? You was on the team. Okay, your clip your clips still going by project. They played before the playoffs start, Yo, do what you walking through the hall. It's like you act like you playing like he didn't play in the fun he did him playing like three minutes. Look it up, he played. I think I missed like six been with him on Twitter. You said they put all his shides in the finals. It's this game. You got respect, You got minis in every game. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, jeffcause I'm gonna help you out here. Twenty one. When you came in the league two thousand and nine, so you played, Yeah, come on, bro, I had a hell of a crew. We always praises if I'm doing this because you retired. Yeah yeah, he was like, come on, bro, you my moniscous was gone. We're gonna keep it real because I ain't funking with him. No more. He wasn't supposed to be there. That nigga didn't have no knees. Bro, my going, Yeah, he got signed off the love my Dog. What I'm saying, that's no, I was good. I tore you can. I'm saying, like I toured with Milwaukee. Remember I was in Boston. I had came up point game. I got here playing one on one. With Jordan Noor. Wow legend, I said, I can't be in my knee y'all. Damn crazy, Bro, I play bro joking and ship man. I don't stop doing that. I love my nigga. But because he was like, Bro, you're done right playing. Don't let niggas really play with this nigga like that. Everybody let niggas let me want a chance to get to him. You know what I'm saying, because I don't play about my niggas. But I'm just saying that year, bro, it's y'all had a different finals experience. I mean one thousand percent. Yeah, that's that's just like just going from Toronto to Milwaukee, you just start the. Different. People want that much Houston, Atlanta on Miami. That's why I was in Houston. Know that's ain't gonna be partying with We're there likery about me. You can feel, you can feel like the buzz and the energy in the city, like you know, the team the city know you know. So is gonna be filtered low. You know, I go to tell you the Josh will come home, run it back. Yeah, we're gonna be like this. I hope y'all wouldn't want it after there, boy, I seem to do it though. You got yeah, bro, you gotta get healthy. Y'all get healthy. All crazy what you think about this rookie class though? We got young a lot of young guys getting too. You got bj you got Cooper Flag con Kinnupple. They represent right now, a lot of first options. I know the league is a little bit different now the rookies get to do whatever they want to. But how has it been obviously been observing the games and stuff like that. Man, I like it. I think I think this is one of the better classes that we done had, you know, like just from guys that's really you could see what they're gonna be right away. Yeah, Because then then a couple of these drafts we had, you know, top picks coming and be old players or come off the bench and don't play, and you know. Ship like that, that is weird because that's not what we grew up on. Fact Like, usually when you get drafted, you know, they try to make you like a franchise guy. So to see to see the young guys this year, I mean, it's a lot of good players in this draft. And then yeah, obviously everybody's looking forward to the next year. But I'm looking at this year like Ship. I mean, they got they got some at least six, seven, eight of them, you know what I mean. A whip really, God, that's contributing on winning teams. You got Queen, you got the care from Memphis. Yeah, centa coward beginning, He's supposed to be a dukee. He out here do so right now doing this little brot Dylan dealing out here, killing the limited minutes right now. My fears, everybody, my boy. Rookie class is decent. You got dealing, Yeah, yeah, Harper this ship. And then the kid from Toronto is good too, Yeah yeah, cemb hold it down. You know, some bully game out there. I like this class. I'm excited more excited about next year draft class. Yeah, just because the freshman man in college basketball. So many good firstmen, there's a lot. I've just seen the kid from Houston. I went to the Houston game. He's rock and he's a pro. They got the kid from Arkansas. That's really good. Stupid obviously the top the two boozer, which you I think about. I ain't watching him play yet, dog, he good. I just think he like Tyler Hans Bro. Everybody getting mad at me good effect, disrespectful like, no, you gotta think on top of Hans Brough when he was at Carolina, not Tyler hands. That's my red laughing bro. Disrespectful, Bro. You don't know how happy I am to see you laugh, Bro, Just to see you smile would have made my day. Strange, crazy broems Bro. No junk yard dogs and pulling for three? You could do that? He add to his game, called me to Joe. Uh, it's twins though, right? What happened to the other one? But he there too? Here du he's having he's not having a good year. Yeah, hes gonna be there. Remember h from high school. See, I don't watch you sports that much no more. I used to. I really don't even like college basketball for real, But I've been paying attention to the twin can hoop. It's just he's just star like Cooper got the Twin two. Yeah, it's star studdy. Man. He got a younger brother. The dude that man. Yeah, remember he be classed up? Is he just went up you are? Yeah? He would see what I mean crazy, that's family, he said he got. I'm in hard Grady. I'm not trying to be crazy. I'm just saying they had to do that. Bro. Journeys is different. He didn't go with him. No, he's that man right now. Yeah, he went to Heentyork. Yeah he's a main university though. Yeah, he's a freshman. I believe a flag. Yeah, shout out to a flag man here. Yeah, shout out to the family. Hold it down all right now, look checking me out. This ain't it's disrespectful, bro, Like, come on, broycle t o team playing your want champanship, bred and nobody at any given times thout the tall hairs was gonna be the number one pick in the NBA drawn. How tall was tall? Hands? Bro? Six line? What saying? But and one? No? Wat the movies, bro, that's what he do? Okay, okay, okay, I see the screen he can do this. They got that that's the only thing he and he can do like this and pull up you have a Do you have an NBA? Yeah? Cop right now? Yes? Who he played like? They say probably al Horfords crazy boom seeing man, I ain't even sucking with child. No, it's not just respecfct bro, that's not man. I know I should have got go ahead and tripping. Listen say his NBA cop is and it might not be ja Billis because he's be wild man. That hiss Brody, there we go, jis random. Check out some of the. Saying in the league. I got respect years chance. Taland Hans bro ain't never make compearance of none of them people. Yeah when a lottery pick, y'all gotta stop, Bro. He should was the best, one of the best college players ever. I'm with you respected them play though I haven't. I can't speak with this world. I'm gonna tall right now for they want one game and they've been putting to everybody number one coordination. I like that. You guys think. Yeah, people, what I'm saying are actually good. It's good Tyler hands. I hope it was. I hope it was all coming out he was he was. It just sounds crazy, like you know how you go like, uh, the kid, what's the kid from Kansas Darren p he liked the next Kobe and then you go to the monster like he liked the next k D and you go my man, like, oh yeah, the next he. Had. He had a good career. I ain't played for the Raptor, one of the best, one of the best salon players on the horn and now been here answer that we all here that game versus him and the Bonsa. They said that was the siding factor. Youven though, you know what I'm saying. I don't base my thoughts on that. Darren Peterson is crazy for sure, but a j yeah, you can't teach hip. Yeah, I want to say it with some space. I want to say, with some space. I feel like the last one was like like Wiggins was like that for me, Like when I watched the Man Kansas, I was like, but you. Gotta think college you it's everybody right here. You know what I'm saying. I want to see the bouncle with some more space around him. But that boy, that boy from Kansas special. Bro. Yeah, he's sharp, like he shot for that age to be that sharp skill set sharp depending on who get the pick too. Oh yeah, because sometimes no matter what you need, you know what number one pick you have to get a j I think they should. But if the King's the one pick. Were talking about Kings get the number one Darren Peterson because. They don't. But you go shoot ball whatever you want to. Yeah, your Hawks, I pray that they don't get no One picked. Oh man, we got the bad draft. No disrespect to him, but young zachly us exactly. Exact. He got Henryes on this nigga. Then you gotta go practice in the G League and then they bring you back up to play. Bro. I just hate that he got pick took Alex told him to take him there. Yeah, but that whole draft was it was due they had They had read as the number one player in that draft. But yeah, we couldn't. Could have got stepped on Castle, y'all the draft to read a number one. They would have hated y'all, especially having Trey, they would have I. Would have took Castle, whe I would have took Alex. I mean we needed a big yeah, y'all needed respect the big Oh, y'all need a big way y'all picked what was there to pick. We ain't know much about him. That's what I didn't like. But anyway, I ain't trying this my hawks. No shouts to the Hawks. Man. Well, yeah in town yesterday, Tapen, Yeah, I talked to that yesterday. Man. Yeah, send us some talks, bro. I guess can I get some Houston gear? Bro? What you needed? Some shorts under the shorts, some compressions short because that nigga aint gonna lie for it. It got cold. Nigga had on these wind breakers, I said, Damn, I had on some tights and will be flying everywhere. Come on, man, on that note, you can't find it, So the site to be here telling people that ain't grab somer. Shout club fund twenty do com man. We want some tight all right, Fred. We appreciate you, bro telling people that can find a pot as well. Man, my boy getting to it off the court man, sure. Anywhere, man, look it up. I don't know. We just we're just having fun. Now. Well I'm hurt so type of Instagram but we can us all that. Yeah, pull up whatever, man. I appreciate you all having me though. I appreciate you man for sure. Man like we said shout to boost Muggle family, tapped in shouts to stock X. You know the vibes be here the lace. We need a dub Man for sure. Gotta get this money. I need a twenty thousand dollars play Bro. I don't want to talk that. The rockets. You play real quick, you gonna rock. Shout out and sall rocks and we're appreciated. Off get out the volume. M hm.