NFL Cover Zero: Blocked Kicks, Throwback Uniforms, and Thriving backup QBs!

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Speaker 1: NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin is a production of the NFL and iHeart podcast.

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Speaker 2: Well, after a.

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Speaker 1: Few days hiatus, we are back. It is Cover zero NFL, NFL Cover zero. That's the way they want us to say it.

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Speaker 3: Here.

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Speaker 1: I am in Cape Town, South Africa. Yes, that's exactly right, Cape Town, South Africa. Drew and Billy are in Lexington. It is twelve forty five at night, and Drew, I did something that I don't know how many people do in Cape Town, which is sit and watch NFL Red Zone all day looking out over the ocean.

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Speaker 3: And it's great to be here with you.

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Speaker 2: Who I did a little Red Zone on my couch, but it you sounds like you had a much better view. Also, I'm glad that no technical difficulties. We're good to see it. Haven't talked to you in a week in South Africa, so yeah, glad to be talking to you today.

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Speaker 1: I want to start this saying we didn't get to do a show midweek and the reason was one of our friends, also a listener to this podcast, Manie Robertson, passed away. Both of us were friends with him, Drew, he was one of your closest friends, and we wanted to give you some time off to be able to honor him. And you know, he would be listening right now and proud of you and good to have you back. And I'm sorry for both of our loss, but particularly you.

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Speaker 3: You were he was one of your best friends.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you were very close lost a great guy, very unexpectedly. But I appreciate the little time to grieve and be with the family and sort things out. But it's good to be back with you. Guys. We'll miss him, but you know, he was a great one.

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Speaker 1: He's listening somewhere prayers to the Robertson family. They were there. He was a great guy. So I'm in. There have been people who might say, Matt, are you going to be in South Africa forever? Because I've already been here a week and I have like ten more days. For people who don't know I was, I was doing a fellowship with the Aspen Institute, as all NFL podcast hosts do, and now I'm on an eleven day trip around South Africa that includes a safari And I don't think people on this podcast know Drew. It is me and ten women and tonight was the welcome drinks where I met the ten women. It was quite a thing. They all sort of are like, you're not a woman, you are a man. And so for the next ten or eleven days it is me and ten women throughout the bush of South Africa.

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Speaker 3: Should be very exciting.

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Speaker 2: I got to ask at the at the end of the night, did you have to give nine of them a rose and send one home? That's what this sounds like. Not the welcome party, one at a time.

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Speaker 1: It was gonna be a trip where we just leave one everywhere we go, one of them has to stay. No, I actually had to leave. It was a typical male thing to do. I had to leave the party early to go watch football. I was like, look, I have to go. I have to go watch the NFL to be able to do this show.

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Speaker 3: But you know, the NFL. It's interesting.

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Speaker 1: It's I don't want to say, it's not a thing here. As soon as I talk to people here about sports, they asked me about They call it here American football. They're like, tell me about American football, but they don't know any of the players. And they all say the same thing, which is I watch it and I don't know what's happening, And you know, for us, it seems like the most basic thing in the world. But I can see like if you don't know the rules. Like one of the guys looked at me and said, how come they stop? And I said, well, I don't really know how to answer that question. Like he said, they fall down and then everyone stops, which I guess is true.

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Speaker 3: But maybe you don't think of it like that, Drew.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's gonna be a lot of explaining how that works to them. But you're right, in America, it's just like accepted culture in the fall Sundays, a lot of people just knowing I'm on my couch watching football.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's every single weekend.

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Speaker 1: So if you ma as these suggestions as to how I can explain the rules to South Africans that I meet, that would be good. I also have had a situation, Drew that I you know me well enough to know how difficult this is for me. I haven't had my phone for the last couple of days, and I'm not gonna have it for a couple more days, and that's difficult enough for me as it is.

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Speaker 3: I'm sort of wedded to my phone.

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Speaker 1: But what's even worse is when I explain why I don't have my phone.

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Speaker 3: You've not even heard.

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Speaker 1: Oh I don't know this, but this, this is one of the more embarrassing things I've ever done. So you know Nelson Mandela, right, he was not personal South African president.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I never met him, but I'm familiar.

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Speaker 3: You guys were not boys, but you know, well, you know who he is.

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Speaker 1: He was kept for twenty seven years as a political prisoner on a place called Robin Island, which is like five miles from Cape Town. So to get there you have to get on a ferry and you go out there. So my fellowship group we went out there. Now I don't know how much people know, but like, this is where the two oceans come together. This is where the Indian Ocean and the Atlantic Ocean come together. And thus the water is very choppy because it's different temperatures. This is some of the choppiest water in the world, the tip of Africa and the tip of South America. So when you take the ferry to Robin Island, it is very very choppy. So we go to Robin Island. It's a very powerful thing. We saw the cell where Nelson Mandela was for twenty seven years, very powerful thing.

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Speaker 3: But when it comes to we were there for like four hours.

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Speaker 1: So when the time comes time to come back, I need a soda, right, And they don't have diet coke for those of you video, they don't have die coke in souven They only have coke zero. And so I've been drinking a lot of coke zero. Well, I get on the boat. Coke zero is forty five cents here. I mean, it's unbelievably gee. So we get on and there's a group of probably twenty older women who are from rural South Africa, Drew and have never been to Robin Island. Now I'm going to defer to these ladies, Like, whatever these women want, Drew, You're gonna let them have.

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Speaker 2: Right, Absolutely, Yeah, it's a treat for them.

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Speaker 1: This is a treat for them. So I'm sitting in my seat. This woman is sitting a few rows behind me. She walks up to me in the middle of the boat ride and it's very rocky, and she walks up to me and she looks at me. She's probably ninety years old, and she looks at me and goes get up. I said what, and she would get up, and I got up and she just set in my seat. Okay, all right, she just set in my seat. She's like, that will now be my seat, okay. And it threw me off, and as soon as she did that, someone took her seat. So now I'm standing, right. So I'm standing on some of the choppiest waters in the world in this ferry and I'm getting thrown around all.

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Speaker 3: Over the boat. Right.

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Speaker 1: So I have my coke zero and I'm like having to struggle to stand, and so I put my coke zero in my coke pocket, my coat pocket so that I could brace myself. But I didn't realize is my phone was in there. And so the next bump we hit, my coke flipped over, poured onto my phone, shorted it out. Oh and I now have the story, Matt, how did you break your phone? Well, I spilt coke on it on the island where Nelson Mandela was prisoned. That is how I lost my phone. So at least it's an interesting story.

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Speaker 2: Did the lady that I had you moved? Did she know that this happened? Was there any Do you think she had any guilt?

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Speaker 1: No guilt, She had no guilt, and I think we should all have the self confidence that woman had to just say you're gonna get up. She didn't say may I. She didn't even give a rationale. And by the way, she had a chair. It wasn't like she was standing. She just was like, I would like your chair, and I would like you to have no chair.

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine now that you don't have a phone, just being in South Africa with a phone at all, not just the fact that you like having your phone it's always in your hand, just being alone in another country and not having your other country.

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Speaker 1: Can't get an uber, okay, can't get an uber, no map, So I'm not really sure at any given moment where I am.

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Speaker 3: You know, and then you go. So then think about this when.

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Speaker 1: You don't have a phone, first question is where do I get my phone phone repaired?

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Speaker 4: Well, how would you find out? You'd have to use your phone? They don't have an Apple store near to your safari? Well they did, so they do it. So in South Africa.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna spend whole show talk about South but in South Africa things are cheaper. It's probably like a third of what things are in America, except for some reason, Apple phones are like three times more expensive, So like you can get a full dinner for three dollars and thirty cents, but an Apple phone is like thirty five hundred bucks. So I don't really I can't really replace it, and so it's just like if they can't fix it, then I'm just gonna be roaming around hoping someone takes me where I need to go when I'm in South Africa.

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Speaker 2: Now, you know, last time on the show, we heard you were just having trouble getting yogurt. Now you're telling me you don't even have a phone down there. That's is there any danger involved with not having a phone? What they tell you now, Johannesberger was a little direer.

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Speaker 1: They tell you in Cape Town is you can walk most places, not everywhere, but most places during the day.

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Speaker 3: Always take a cart.

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Speaker 1: Not But I'm now having to be like my grandmother and like order a taxi at the front desk. I don't know you can still do that. I didn't either, but I'm like, can you call a taxi? And they're like they look at me, like still.

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Speaker 2: What are you ninety?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's what I have to do because I have no other way of getting anywhere, but still got to watch.

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Speaker 3: The games and now I'm ready to go.

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Speaker 1: Now, Billy, you're going to give us the we're kind of doing the games and the order of excitement. Today, you're gonna give us the score and some notes about him.

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Speaker 3: What would I think? The biggest game, Billy was probably Eagles Ram?

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, I gotta start Eagles Rams, a battle between two two and OHO teams. Philadelphia wins thirty three to twenty six thanks to Jordan Davis blocking two field goals in the fourth quarter. The Rams out a twenty six to seven lead at one point. Jalen Hurts hadn't thrown a passing touchdown pass in ten quarters and then throws three in the final two for the Eagles to stay undefeated.

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Speaker 1: I watched almost all of this game today. When I turned it on, I think the Rams were up like nineteen to seven, and I thought, that's a really strange score. And then the Eagles. You just kind of had a sense they were gonna come back. Two block field goals by the largest man on the field you always, I guess they just take the view. No reason to go around. I'll go through. And the last runback was one of the more epic plays I've seen, Drew.

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Speaker 2: It was an epic play for a game with, you know, some high stakes in that conference. But also if anyone dabbled on Rams plus three and a half, you probably thought.

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Speaker 3: That was good.

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Speaker 2: You probably thought you had that from the first quarter until it was already gone, because they had to lead most of the game until Philadelphia scores the four straight touchdowns. But even with the field goal attempt, you're good. The one thing that couldn't happen was the runback, and I think that'll be one of the worst beats we ever see in the NFL out.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to say about the gambling aspect of that. That would be that would be really difficult. It very well played game the Rams. If you remember from the first episode of NFL Cover zero, the Rams were my super Bowl sleeper pick. I actually picked them to go to the super Bowl on this show, and I was feeling really good about that in the third court.

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Speaker 3: I still feel good about it, but.

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Speaker 1: I think it would have been a lot better for them if they could have I mean, that would have been a big game today for home field advantage.

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Speaker 3: If they'd been able to get.

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Speaker 2: It absolutely look good the whole time. It's kind of going viral now, but Jalen hurts. I mean the Eagles sideline is just going absolutely crazy. They're running.

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Speaker 3: He didn't even smile.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it was just stone cold. There are people bumping into him, They're just bouncing off of them, and they just walked straight onto the field to shake.

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Speaker 1: And he cared. It looked like he had somewhere to be. He was just like, well, this is fine. Do we get to the next thing.

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Speaker 2: I just think he might be a stone cold killer. I know the Eagles are sharing that video a lot like look at our quarterback just locked in, didn't need to go run and celebrating, but a huge one.

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Speaker 1: I would like to know what I would like to know what's called viral for this from this, But I have no idea because I can't get on my phone and I can't log into any social media. So I'm just going to take your word for it that it went viral. Do you think I lost like this? If you're the Rams, can you come back from that? Like you that that one pulls at your soul?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no moral victories when you're in the NFL and you're the Rams, but to basically beat the Eagles for three quarters in Philadelphia, I think, if anything, it just gives you a hunger to get to get another shot at him, because you had them really dominated the first half, and you know that maybe you are on a neutral field or maybe you can get home field that in another shot, you're gonna be right there with them.

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Speaker 3: Now. I haven't seen any analysis, but how.

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Speaker 1: Did this dude who's looks to weigh about three point thirty.

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Speaker 3: How did he block two kicks straight up the middle?

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Speaker 1: I mean, have you seen anyone make an analysis of how that happened?

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Speaker 2: It was a little wild because and we'll get to some of the others, but in the witching hour red zone, they're all a lot of blocks, and including the Eagles game, never it was there, I mean evers like three and three minutes and Jordan Davis Eagles kind of I don't know if it's the last year of his contract, but they already been talking about him really getting paid. If I were him, I would have walked straight to the GM's office after blocking two kicks and beating almost single handling, beating the Rams with that play, and uh, Sam, where's my.

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Speaker 1: Did they say it was because the kicker kicked low, Like I haven't. I haven't heard, and I couldn't figure out watching exactly what he did that made him get through Sol.

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Speaker 2: We got right through the middle, just straight up through the middle.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he got his hand, he got his hand up pretty high. I mean in another game there was some nice hurdle but on on the block that he took back for a touchdown, and he just straight up the middle, got his hand up, got his and picked up the ball.

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Speaker 1: So Jalen Hurts, as Billy said, had gone you know, two and a half games with without throwing a touchdown throws a bunch uh there At the end, they looked to be I don't want to say unbeatable, but I think that at this point you would say they are the best team in the NFC by decent margin.

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Speaker 3: If I gave you over under one and a half losses, what do you take.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they don't have many tough games coming up. That division looks like it might have a couple of teams that aren't going to threaten h much if they were going to drop a game. I know this was at home, but the Rams was one of the toughest ones on their schedule. I think they might be a one loss team, which is crazy.

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Speaker 3: That is crazy, but I think you're right if you look at it.

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Speaker 2: They go to Buffalo, they go to Buffalo, so that's one where they'll you could potentially that might be the one.

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Speaker 3: Well even shout out to my man Greg Olson.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Greg Olsen did that game, and he is so good. And you know, he got bumped for Tom Brady, which I thought, you know, like that was a little rude, like you bring in a guy who's never done anything, like never well, I mean he did play football well, but he ever called football.

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Speaker 3: With any background and just completed them up.

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Speaker 1: I think Greg Olsen, in my opinion, is the best announcer in the NFL, and I thought he was excellent on that game. I he does such a good job breaking everything down. I don't I think he is the most underrated person that calls maybe any sport, but certainly the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I love him too, and I'm with you on just putting Brady above him. And I'm like Greg's been a rising star, He's earned this spot. Let's have him. Everybody loves him. They got a little criticism the broadcast team because during a tush push, Lane Johnson got hurt and they kind of didn't really mention it. So Eagles fans are all open arms about that looks like he's gonna be okay.

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Speaker 1: But they said it though one point that he was out thedn't they orboy got hurt during a touch and.

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Speaker 2: They just kept talking about just in general the tush push, and I think people were like, hey, let's talk about how you know, one of the best Eagles is hurt on the ground as hurt right now, but he is gonna be okay. But that was one thing that some Eagles fans online we're kind of upset about with Greg Olsen.

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Speaker 1: But it wasn't quite as like I mean, they succeeded in it, but it wasn't quite as overwhelmingly effective because now they finally have to stop false starting, right Like, they don't get to just keep jumping a second and a half before everybody else.

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Speaker 2: Last week, the entire offensive line, it was a false start on the toush pushes then get called. Today there was another one, but it was only one guy, so they're starting to at least wait to snap the ball. But yeah, it's the toush push, I adn't going anywhere.

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Speaker 3: Well, good win for the Eagles.

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Speaker 1: Exciting game, and you're right, you don't see a whole whole lot of games end up on a blocked return kick changing the cover of the game.

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Speaker 3: Sorry to the gamblers out there who lost that one.

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Speaker 5: What's next, Billy, Well, speaking of blocked kicks, there was one in this next game in the Packers Browns game, an ode to Brown Spider and First Lady.

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Speaker 2: The Brown snap an eight game losing streak Spider eight game losing streak dating back to last year.

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Speaker 5: At a thirteen to ten victory over a Green Bay, they scored thirteen points in the final four, they were down ten to zero. There was a blocked kick as the Green Bay looked to take the win, tied at ten and all, but Browns go down the field and Austin Schmidt hits a fifty five yard field goal for the win.

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Speaker 1: I like, Billy, like doing the radio version of the game right there, you know, I we didn't because of the of Manning's passon. We didn't get to do a show in the middle of the week, so we didn't get to do our Survivor League picks thankfully, because I would have picked the Packers.

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Speaker 3: And of course the Browns get the victory.

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Speaker 1: They're down ten to nothing with four minutes to go, and then Flacco says no longer wacko and takes them down the field. They score three times in four minutes. Pretty epic choke job by Green Bay.

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Speaker 2: Right, it was, and it was the final leg of my money line parlay. But you know, the Packers, even though it was only ten oh most of the game, never imagine they could lose. I'm like, how the heck do the Packers only have ten points? But then Jordon Loved through a horrible interception late in horror, about three minutes left, Brown's get it at the Green Bay twenty five, score a quick touchdown, then you get the block field goal that set up their field goals. So I mean, just similar to the to the Rams. I mean, the whole game, you think you have it than just an absolute melt down there at the end.

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Speaker 3: Congrats to them.

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Speaker 1: And then as for the Packers, that's another one, like kind of like the RAM.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you're going to.

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Speaker 1: Get to playoff seating and you're going to go, how could we lose that game?

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Speaker 3: At Cleveland? That'll be a big one.

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Speaker 1: I was going to say, by the way, when it was ten to nothing, you got to replace Flacoh with Dylan Gabriel now, and I guess Flacko probably keeps a job for a.

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Speaker 2: Little longer, right, Yeah, he had an interception, I don't think any touchdowns. Wasn't his best day. But if you if you beat an NFC contender like the Packers, I mean, there's no way you can make a move there.

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Speaker 3: You can't. You can't make a move.

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Speaker 2: No, I just it costs me about five hundred dollars on a money line parlays.

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Speaker 3: So that's all? Is this really?

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Speaker 1: Is this KT just gonna be Drew talks about his gamling Picks show today.

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Speaker 2: Well this one, this one especially because wait until we get to the Titans. You don't hear me about the Titans.

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Speaker 3: Well, I just showing us his car.

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Speaker 2: Well all day and we won't do all gambling talk. But today I told my wife, I was like, I'm feeling it today and every game I bet three times more than I normally bet and I went oh for seven. So absolutely got murdered today. But this game, especially in.

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Speaker 1: South Africa, that he could fix my phone and it didn't work.

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Speaker 3: So I was, oh for one as well.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of that for a second, when have you do you know what the Cape of Good Hope is?

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Speaker 3: Do you know what that is?

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Speaker 2: I'm familiar with it, but I couldn't explain what it is, like I reckon like the southern most point.

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Speaker 1: It's like the southernmost point in Africa, and you know, so I went there and right next to right right next to the Cape of Good Hope is a city called Simon's Town, Okay, And Simon's Town is an interesting place because you drive into town and it's the only city I've ever seen in the world. When you're driving in town, there's a sign that says, uh, bab boon watch out for baboons. Now you have to understand, this is a city. This is not like like it's not like you're out in the woods. Like there's a grocery store and there's a restaurant, and there's a beat shop and there's all this, and then they're like, watch out for babboons. And I kind of thought it was funny. I even pointed out to people I was with. I was like, they think I'm gonna see a baboon like at the McDonald's. Well you know what, oh you do the baboo. There are baboons in Simon's Town walking down the.

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Speaker 3: Street like like just like people.

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Speaker 1: Like they're walking down the street just and they're it's almost like they mimic people. I mean, you know, they're smoking cigarettes and they're making phone calls. And they have a flood wall on the town I guess in case the ocean rises or whatever.

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Speaker 3: And there was a.

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Speaker 1: Baboon just sitting on the flood wall just watching people eat, and the people were watching it.

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Speaker 3: And I just thought, what imagine if you were.

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Speaker 1: In Lexington and you just saw a baboon walking down the street, you'd be a little scared. In Simon'stown, it's just like they're part of the They're just part of the community.

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Speaker 2: That's wild. I have a mental image right now of like a street corner like it waiting for the crosswalk sign to change. Like it's a bunch of humans and baboons sitting there and waiting for the pedestrian walkway. Yeah, you get to you get to McDonald's and a baboon pulls the door open for you and lets you go in first. Are they just on the sidewalk like.

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Speaker 1: A they're well, they don't. I don't know that they follow all the traffic rules. I think they just kind of go where they want to go. But I mentioned to the waiter. I was like, you know, there's a baboon just there on the wall, and he said, oh, they can mimic the human behavior.

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Speaker 3: He was like, they can.

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Speaker 1: They will open your backpack and then this is what he said. They'll go through and find the best stuff and take it. And I wonder what the baboon is he talking about the most expensive stuff. It's a bad boom, like listen, an old computer. I'm gonna get your iPad instead. But he said that the baboon would like find which of the things were the best to steal and then take them.

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Speaker 2: They're going and pawning off people's things. I know you're I know you're not the biggest fan of dogs. Is it uncomfortable that the bab boons just, you know, roaming around all around you can walk up to you at any point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was in the car when the baboon was like on the wall. But I will say I seem to be the only person that even had a problem with it.

00:23:39
Speaker 2: So it's that common.

00:23:41
Speaker 1: Everybody was just like, well, there's Johnny. You know, he's he's been drinking, and so go give it's an it's an interesting an interesting part of it.

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Speaker 2: Well, if only you could get video of this, I'd love to see it, but uh, you know.

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Speaker 3: I wanted video.

00:23:58
Speaker 1: I literally was going up to strangers and like, we use your phone and then send it to me.

00:24:04
Speaker 2: Well, can I tweet from your account? I really wouldn't want people to see these animals roam around.

00:24:09
Speaker 1: Please someone David, all right, Billy, what's next?

00:24:26
Speaker 2: All Right?

00:24:27
Speaker 5: It wasn't the closest game of the afternoon Slate, but the Bears get their first win of the year.

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Speaker 2: Matt's team.

00:24:32
Speaker 5: They handle the Cowboys, and Caleb Williams looked good three hundred yards passing four touchdowns to Luther Burden the third Roma, Doonsay, Dj Moore, Cole Comet.

00:24:42
Speaker 2: Everybody was getting in on the fun. And not just that.

00:24:45
Speaker 5: The defense looked good too. Two interceptions of Dak Prescott. A big win for Ben Johnson and his first with the Bears.

00:24:51
Speaker 1: Great game for the Bears, and this is my team. This is the best they've looked in probably three years. I mean they I thought they played excellent. I thought they played you know, they played well against the Vikings too in the first week.

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm confident.

00:25:03
Speaker 1: It's interesting I heard the announcers say that Ben Jonson, the coach, said, if I was jeered Golf, I would not like this comment. The announcer said a bit. Johnson said that, you know, in Detroit, the offense had to be perfect, and he's had to get used to having a quarterback who, if the play didn't go perfect, could still do something.

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Speaker 3: If I was jeered Golf, I'd be like, dude, we went what fifty and two? Why you gotta why you gotta be like that?

00:25:32
Speaker 1: But but Caleb Williams looked like what we'd hoped.

00:25:35
Speaker 2: Yeah, I congratulations. They looked not just kind of good, they looked awesome and including Ben Johnson, dialed up a wild flea flicker for their second touchdown early in the game. I actually turned it off in the second halfcause is getting ugly. But at least in the first half of what I was watching, they were just gashing the Cowboys defense. There were so many big, explosive plays. It almost felt like Dallas was down a man in the secondary because the Bears were hitting on so much, and I think in our first podcast of any these I told you to look out for Luther Burdon and it's taken two or three weeks now, but finally had a big game, and I think they're as many more than of those to come.

00:26:07
Speaker 3: They got a lot of weapons. I mean, I wish they had.

00:26:09
Speaker 1: I wish they had won that game against against Minnesota because I think if they were two and one, they'd be a dangerous team. They you know, they've got a hard schedule, their schedule if you look at it. They had to win this one because I think they played the Chiefs in the next week or two, so they got a tough thing. As far as the Cowboys, you know, your secondary team, they're one and two, could.

00:26:28
Speaker 3: Easily be zero to three. Are they just a non factor this year?

00:26:34
Speaker 2: You know, I didn't think they would be all that good, but would contend for the playoffs. But if you're losing respectfully to you met, if you're losing to the Chicago Bears, a winless team in week three at home, when you go you got Philadelphia twice, even though they've already played one of those, that's a loss. You've got Kansas City on the schedule, you got two with Washington. This is one of those games in your schedule. Came out and you're almost counting that as a win. You got to beat the Bears at home to do anything. So I think it's going to be a continue to be a long year, a downward spiral if you came long year.

00:27:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the Cowboys are in for a long win finishing right as the show started, the Chargers get a twenty three to twenty win three and oh, your boy, justin Herbert, you know they've beaten three good teams. They've all been close games, but they've won them all. Are you are you on the Chargers train? The game got kind of wild at the end.

00:27:25
Speaker 2: Yeah. I had high expectations of the Chargers this year, but at the beginning, you know the three and oh where they are haven't beaten the Chiefs in Week one, there was a bit of a surprise. Now getting this big divisional game, Yeah, they're gonna be a big time threat. I don't know that they'll be up there with the Bills, Ravens that group, but you never know. Three and O with these wins, they might try to join that conversation come playoff time.

00:27:47
Speaker 1: And we got a game winning kick from Dicker the kicker, which is my favorite, my favorite. When you name a guy Dicker, you gotta hope he's a kicker and you get the rhyme.

00:27:59
Speaker 3: He's on the team.

00:28:01
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh and Bo Nicks, I knew college bow Knicks was going to show up at some point, and he's done it this year. It's been a big sophomore slump. Really been a sophomore slump for him. You could even argue for Drake May, Michael Pennix, really everybody except Caleb Williams, you know, Jade Daniels unfortunately got has gotten hurt. I mean, the sophomore slump has been real, and I think it's been the most real in Bo Nicks.

00:28:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Broncos fans actually had some excitement behind this team. Maybe not so much in bow Knicks, but they at least thought they had a good operation. I mean, you get one win, but it was against my Tennessee Titans. I don't even know that I would celebrate that one. But then you've now lost two games. That again kind of like said with the Cowboys the Colts, you lose to them, last week their surprise team. But the Broncos are a team that's probably not going to do much. They had some high It.

00:28:49
Speaker 3: Has been bad.

00:28:49
Speaker 1: I mean, I just I last year, I would see him play and I'd go, that is not the bo Knicks.

00:28:55
Speaker 3: I know.

00:28:55
Speaker 1: It's he's going to come back to bow Knicks reality. And that happened, and I'm glad to see it. Chargers now three to zero and in first place. Back up as Jared Stidham. So it's not like you know, got some rookie. It's like you got schador or somebody you're waiting just you know, unleash them.

00:29:14
Speaker 3: Is Jared Stidham.

00:29:15
Speaker 1: He puts out like direct to Netflix Action Movies, Right, I think so?

00:29:19
Speaker 2: I think so when he's not back in Jared stick, I believe.

00:29:22
Speaker 3: So. Okay, what's next?

00:29:24
Speaker 2: This was a one o'clock game.

00:29:25
Speaker 5: The Pittsburgh Steelers advanced to two and one on the season after a twenty one to fourteen victory over the New England Patriots. The Steelers defense forces five turnovers and Aaron Rodgers throws two touchdowns, and in doing so, he now has thrown the fourth most passing touchdowns all time, with five hundred and ten by passing Brett Farve.

00:29:44
Speaker 2: Today with his two touchdowns.

00:29:47
Speaker 1: Why are you talking like a like with the internship, like a nineteen seventies advertising executive.

00:29:54
Speaker 2: In ray, I'm just setting this up how you usually.

00:29:56
Speaker 3: Talk like, Why are you fair? You're feeling energetic for some reason. I am.

00:30:00
Speaker 2: I'm excited we're watching football and getting to talk about it.

00:30:03
Speaker 1: Like you you're talking like an old timey rape baseball. You're like and then it's not how your normal voice is.

00:30:10
Speaker 5: I can go back to monotone Billy, and for the next one.

00:30:13
Speaker 3: I think I like monotone Billy.

00:30:15
Speaker 1: The five turnovers for the Patriots, Stevenson, the running back, fumbled it I think eighteen times during the game. They had to be getting uh. I mean, the Patriots fans have to be livid that you talk about they fumbled it twice inside the one yard line.

00:30:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Drake may had a bad interception in the red zone. That It's not just that they had five turnovers. They were in like scoring position on just about all of them. This could have been a big win for the Patriots if you just hold onto the ball and not make that bad interception. May have just.

00:30:48
Speaker 1: Far away from winning the game they had, They fumbled it. Steven Monde Stephenson fumbled it twice inside the one. All you got to do is hold on to it. I didn't know who I hated more in this game. You know, I cannot stand Patriots fans specifically.

00:31:07
Speaker 3: Is it bad that I get joy when Bill Simmons loses?

00:31:11
Speaker 1: Like, well, it's like this is a bad characteristic because I like him. He's the reason that I got into this whole business. But how can you like someone and want their teams to lose every single game so you can listen and take joy in their misery?

00:31:31
Speaker 3: Is that fair?

00:31:32
Speaker 2: It is because the Boston success that they've all had, we all have a little sports jealousy of the of Boston. It's like that famous there's the kid that went to like all the parades and he takes the posteries like ten and he's been to ten championship parade or something sothing like that. So it's I think it's universal to anyone that's not in the Boston fandom. I think we all hate him just because we're a little bit of jealous how often they were winning there for a while.

00:31:57
Speaker 1: So you get the Bill Simmons versus how much I hate Aaron Rodgers and this game I just wanted to They kept going back and forth, and I would root for both of their miseries, but I ended up I was at the end pulling for the Steelers because I think they got a tougher treck than the Patriots do air Rodgers had. They won, but he had a couple terrible throws, I mean terrible. It'll be interesting when they get to the meat of their schedule. It's hard for me to see him succeeding when they played that Ravens defense and some of these teams going on.

00:32:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, I keep doubting him, and he keeps proving me wrong. Though, at least so far this year. I thought we were going to see a big decline. I thought the age father time would catch up to him. But he still got it. There was a moment in this game, though, that he does. We gotta admit it. Man can sling it around. He can sling it. There was a moment in this game where I really really really missed my peloton guy, Mike Vrabel. Mike Vrabel, he went for it on fourth and one on their own fifteen early in the game, down seven and that's he's about the only come maybe Dan Campbell, but there's only a couple people that would do something that crazy. And it panned out and they went the drove down the field. So that was a pretty unique moment in this game.

00:33:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, they I want to give a shout out by the way, Well, actually, I'll save it for another game.

00:33:16
Speaker 3: What's next, Billy?

00:33:17
Speaker 2: All right, up next, We've got Jets.

00:33:19
Speaker 3: Bucks. Stop right now.

00:33:20
Speaker 2: You don't have to be in all you're doing.

00:33:22
Speaker 5: Delala, all right, well we'll find the middle ground here.

00:33:26
Speaker 3: Hella, Delilah. I met this woman on the bus.

00:33:31
Speaker 2: I made Mario laugh. We got Mario over in the corner laughing.

00:33:36
Speaker 1: She was eating the kitcat and I looked at her and I told her she was my honey.

00:33:41
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Billy, all right, my team, the Bucks are off to their best start in twenty years after a twenty nine to twenty seven win over the Jets.

00:33:49
Speaker 5: You thought it was going to be easy. It was for most of the game. It was twenty three to six, and the Jets score a touchdown. They block a kick and they return it for a touchdown. They take a one point lead until Baker Mayfield leads his third game winning drive in three games, and the Bucks are now three and zero.

00:34:06
Speaker 1: The Bucks are three and zero. They're exciting to watch. I'm gonna let you talk here for a second.

00:34:12
Speaker 3: Bill. You're a Bucks fan? Are you for real?

00:34:16
Speaker 2: They are?

00:34:16
Speaker 5: But they're they're injured. I mean, they're they're missing three offensive linemen. Mike Evans looks like he's got a hamstring injury.

00:34:23
Speaker 2: I mean, and he.

00:34:24
Speaker 5: Has won every single year. They're still waiting for wurfs and God wouldn't to come back. I mean, Levante David got hurt today. They are just beat up. So, I mean, the division is a joke. I mean, if they can stay somewhat healthy, they'll they'll make the playoffs again and win another division title. But can they beat the Eagles and the Rams and some of these better NFC teams.

00:34:42
Speaker 2: I don't know. But Baker Mayfield has turned me into a believer. No no, no, no, no, no, no Maker Playfield, Baker play because he's earned it. He's earned that yet name that we laughed at earlier first QB and NFL history. He's gone back to back to back game winning drives. It's been I'm not a Bucks guy, but I've watched all three of those. He's looking pretty awesome. And how they's brought him back from every game right.

00:35:05
Speaker 3: Now, guys outside the league guys, so you take.

00:35:09
Speaker 1: Away Mahomes, Alan Lamar of the next tier guys, there's no one in football that when he gets the ball at the end, I'm more confident in the Baker mayfield. And that's crazy. I would have never believed that could be true, but he's it's almost like it's becoming like Reggie Miller, where he's almost better at the end than he is during the game, and you have more confidence at the end than you would in a normal play.

00:35:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw a graftcheck. I don't have the exact numbers, you know, they do the probability at certain points of the game the Bucks have had.

00:35:43
Speaker 3: Which are all by the way, those are completely hard.

00:35:46
Speaker 2: But I mean just just the image of you know, we all know it's not accurate, but just to show how down the Bucks have been all three weeks and he's let him back. He hadn't thrown an interception all year. I thought, I guess it was last week though, when it looked like he got hurt and Gardner Johnson's taught him and he just gits right back up and he gets his face. I'm not a Bucks guy, but I like a maker playfield, and I'm jealous that you have him and Mika and Buka. Maybe Goodness of the year, Yeah, great, he had another. He's been great today.

00:36:17
Speaker 1: And a lot of fantasy experts were picking that before the year, and he's been great.

00:36:22
Speaker 3: I will say, you know, the thing about Baker.

00:36:26
Speaker 1: Mayfield is I love to see a dude who has been like life has just hit him in the crotch and they get all the way down to the bottom and then they come back. I think that's a really I think that's an interesting you know, he was the top of the heap, number one pick falls down, is embarrassed as a joke, and then to re have birth, I think is a is a very cool story. Makes me root for him, whereas I used to kind of not be a fan.

00:36:52
Speaker 2: Well really it looked like his career was over and then he gets that one chance with the Rams, a little with the Rams on like.

00:36:58
Speaker 1: A random fast night they didn't have anybody else, and then he's just completely changed.

00:37:02
Speaker 2: He had gone to Carolina, didn't look good backing up the Rams and you're thinking, and well, we've seen the end of him and he's completely revived his career. Also it helps you know. They're fun to watch anyway. But they wore the cream stickles today, Billy, y'all gonna wear those every week. Those are awesome.

00:37:16
Speaker 5: They're so good and usually they have like a losing record in the creamsicles, but it was it was nice to finally get a win.

00:37:22
Speaker 3: It's funny how.

00:37:25
Speaker 1: After time things that used to be terrible become things you have nostalgia for. So when I was a kid, the Bucks were awful and the cream sickles were like an example of why they were awful, Right, why would you wear this?

00:37:39
Speaker 3: This is a loser thing?

00:37:41
Speaker 1: And now you go all these same thing with the uniform the Patriots were today, Like those were hideously ugly uniforms that now they've brought back and people love, even though the teams weren't even successful when they wore those uniforms.

00:37:56
Speaker 2: Well, I have a mental image when the Bucks were terrible of like they'd have the brown bags and there was the creamstickle area where the fans and the just miserable, and forever you would associate with that, desociated with that, but it is. It's just kind of like we're Kentucky basketball fans. You know, the denim back in the day was kind of you know, some people mostly hero back.

00:38:14
Speaker 1: Like like, if you're talking throwbacks, what are are the Are the cream sickles for Tampa Bay the best sort because because the current Tampa Bay logos kind of boring, so I've I've long thought they should go back to the cream sickles.

00:38:30
Speaker 3: They're more fun.

00:38:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm a Titans fan. The Oilers loiler. There's been kind of a Houston, Tennessee fight over who actually had that one? I can I like them. I hated these and when they were current, but the old Seahawks ones I kind of liked those with the silver and the little blue and before they went Neon and Navy. I like those two.

00:38:50
Speaker 5: The Rams back in the day I think had good ones. Even the Eagles I think have some pretty good old ones.

00:38:56
Speaker 2: Nothing.

00:38:57
Speaker 1: It was interesting that they both the Patriots and the Bucks wore those today because when I think of sort of old school uniforms that have kind of gotten lost to history, though, are the two that stick out and they both ended up happening today.

00:39:10
Speaker 3: What's next?

00:39:11
Speaker 5: Well, five backup quarterbacks started in the NFL this week, and one of them was Mac Jones for the forty nine ers as they beat the Cardinals on a last second field goal by Eddie Pinero sixteen to fifteen. It looked like the Cardinals were going to get the best of the forty nine ers when Kalayis Campbell was I guess he had a holding call In the end, Zona gave two points to Arizona.

00:39:30
Speaker 2: But you know what, it's going to be a win for San Francisco sixteen to fifteen. Final score.

00:39:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a major safety at the end. Looked like Arizona was going to be able to sneak it out. Arizona loses more games on the last play. Arizona does not have a game that does not end at seven twenty five while we were waiting for CBS sixty minutes and does not end a last second heartbreak more. No one gets that more than Arizona forty nine ers or three and zero. I know, I say this every week. Their schedules really easy. The hardest part of their schedule was at the beginning, and now they're winning all the games and they're three and zero. They're gonna end up. I've said this all year. They're gonna be fourteen and three and not good. Drew, that's what's gonna be. I mean, there's still two of these three games been won by mac Jones.

00:40:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, they should be zero to three. Remember week one they had the catch, they said, the most improbable catch of the week. You have the Saints who are terrible are driving last week and Spencer Rattler fumbles and then this week, you know, last second field goal fifteen sixteen what is just boring? Score game there too. But uh, the fact that the forty nine ers have had some pretty improbable wins so far. It's it's running right into that record. You're predicting a bad team with a good record.

00:40:48
Speaker 1: They're gonna be fourteen and three and not good. I cannot wait to bet against them in the first round of the playoffs. I'm dead serious. They're gonna end up being like the two or three seed and they are going to get smashed in the first row game of the playoffs.

00:41:05
Speaker 3: I cannot for that moment.

00:41:07
Speaker 1: And you will remember that that is the cover NFL cover Zeroad moment of the week.

00:41:26
Speaker 2: All right, it's time, Drew, It's forty one to twenty. Colts beat the Titans this week.

00:41:31
Speaker 5: Jonathan Taylor three touchdowns on the ground over one hundred rushing yard.

00:41:34
Speaker 3: He had the best run.

00:41:35
Speaker 1: He had one of the best runs I've seen in years, that touchdown run where four guys had him one on one and he beat all four of them. I don't mean to interrupt you, Billy, but that was like one of the best runs I've seen in a long time.

00:41:47
Speaker 3: Yeah.

00:41:48
Speaker 5: Leading the NFL in rushing yards right now as well, cam Ward two hundred nineteen yards, one touchdown, one interception, But can't do it alone.

00:41:57
Speaker 1: Your Titans stink. Yeah they stink. The Saints stink too, but the Titans really stink. And I knew they were gonna stink.

00:42:04
Speaker 2: My expectations I thought were at the bottom, and they've managed to not even match that.

00:42:08
Speaker 3: At the end, you're getting to the point that you're hate watching them. I like when that happens. Tell me about tell me about hate watching Oh.

00:42:14
Speaker 2: You know, I guess we're already shopping for number one picks next year. I'm already looking at mock drafts and it's mid September, knowing that it's gonna at least have one of the top two picks. But I have a lot of friends that go to Titans games season ticket holders. They're texting me, Brian Callahan got boots so bad. They were saying, it's like the loudest the stadium has been in years. With booing the head coach at the end of the first half, he did like it made you wonder how this man had a job. This was like elementary level football, Like if you've even played one game of Madden, you would know how to handle this situation. But they've crossed the fifty. There's two minutes left. They have a first down. You have cam Ward. The crowd wants you to go for the end zone. You're down by a little more in a touchdown. You got your rookie. Let him throw it. They run, run, run, Then they try to settle for a field goal. This is where all hell breaks loose. Colts call a timeout, Titans call a time out. At this point, there's been two timeouts. They trot out the kicker and get a delay of game with the kicker after two timeouts, which pushes him back and which made people go crazy, is that the Colts were able to get the ball back, which never should have happened anyway, and then they drive and score again before halftime. So I know, I know we have a lot of Kentucky fans that listen. And we talked about Mark Stoops in the other first half. Mark Stoops looks like Nick Saban compared to Brian Callahan. I don't know how that man has a job and he got to go.

00:43:40
Speaker 1: Let him cooksably bad, unbelievably bad. Yeah, the double time out followed by delay of game is one of the great first get one of the great coaching mishaps. And by the way, our coach Mark Stoops has done that too. I mean, that is a double time out delay of game that should be one of those you get fired at that moment when it happens, and it's not substituting.

00:44:05
Speaker 2: It's a kick, you just tried out your kick practicing just a wag game.

00:44:11
Speaker 1: I want to talk for a second about by man Danny Dimes again. I mean I three and oh, okay three and oher in games that I think they were predicted to.

00:44:20
Speaker 3: Lose, all three have He's looked great.

00:44:24
Speaker 1: Shane Steichen has him playing the way you know he had a little bit of period in New York where he looked like that, but most of the time he did not.

00:44:31
Speaker 3: The bangs are still cooking. You know.

00:44:34
Speaker 1: He sits on the sideline reading Dostoyevsky in between plays, which I think is a nice move by him. Gets a little toll Stoy In the postgame press conference he's doing I don't know, he's doing. His thing, is Daniel Dimes, Danny Jones? He gonna be I don't know. They're the Colts for real.

00:44:56
Speaker 2: You know, the first week because the day was so good.

00:44:58
Speaker 3: He doesn't even have to be that great.

00:45:00
Speaker 2: How about this today in the second quarter they punted for the first time this season's three second quarters. They punished.

00:45:08
Speaker 3: Crazy.

00:45:08
Speaker 1: Uh.

00:45:09
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones also had like a twenty yard run where he's breaking ankles. It's crazy to this guy that kind of became able.

00:45:15
Speaker 3: To do that. Yeah, but I mean he's always he always had that in it. Yeah.

00:45:18
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying he's just out there and it is against my Titans, But I mean, he looked great out there, and he's he's kind of listed as a comeback Player of the Year guy. I think if this continues, and I'm not saying he would win the MVP. But the way he's on the ways play so far, we need to put him onto another tier of where he Yeah, I'm not handing the war to someone else to have that, but he need at least needs to climb some tiers of quarterbacks because this isn't like a fluky situation. He has looked really good.

00:45:44
Speaker 3: He has looked he has looked great.

00:45:46
Speaker 1: Uh, it's been you know, I'm usually anti Colts, but I I've enjoyed watching him and I've always kind of had an affinity for Daniel Jones, so I like, I like seeing him him succeed before we go to these other games. Real quick, let me uh, I want to give you another Sound Africa moment. Do you when you travel somewhere do you do you buy souvenirs?

00:46:11
Speaker 3: Like are you? Are you a souvenir guy.

00:46:14
Speaker 2: I'm actually a big postcard guy because I have some family members that always want a postcard, like when we do our road trips, I always try to grab them. So I don't really get stuff for myself, but I have people that like getting stuff like casual gift, but not for me.

00:46:27
Speaker 1: So I'm trying to figure out how best do you know what a do you know what a hyena is, right of course?

00:46:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you.

00:46:35
Speaker 3: Know how hyenas are are shaped? Are you? Are you?

00:46:40
Speaker 1: I'm with you, So think about how hyenas shaped, all right? So I don't ever buy souvenirs. Matter of fact, if you were to come to my house, you would think I'd never left my house, like there's no there's no remnants of anywhere I've ever been or anything I've ever done, because you know, I'm home. But sometimes when I came here, I had a lot of people say to me, buy me a souvenir, which I think, by the way, is a very rude thing to say because who wants to.

00:47:07
Speaker 3: Carry it all the way? And I don't have kids.

00:47:09
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get them a penguin, right, So so you know, but a couple people have asked me for a souvenir, and and so one of them said, get me an animal. Well, you know, I'm kind of mad that they asked me, so like, not getting them an elephant, not getting them a giraffe, okay, but a hyena.

00:47:31
Speaker 3: Nobody likes a hyena. It doesn't do it.

00:47:35
Speaker 1: It's ugly, got it's big, long shaped and then around like but it looks.

00:47:40
Speaker 2: Like it's had some back issues, bad posture.

00:47:42
Speaker 3: Yeah.

00:47:43
Speaker 1: So I get the hyena, thinking like, okay, there you go.

00:47:48
Speaker 3: That's what you get. You get a hyena.

00:47:50
Speaker 1: You thought you're gonna get an elephant or drafte. You're getting a hype. And it's like all multi colored and all this. And I go to go to pay for it, and it's it's got bedazzles and all that, and they asked me if they if they if I can wrap it up, and so they wrapped the whole thing up in paper and it's white.

00:48:11
Speaker 3: And so you got this long top.

00:48:14
Speaker 1: And then this bulky bottom that you can guess with that wrapped up, what that might look like, right, long, slender top, bulky bottom wrapped in white paper and probably like that long. Okay. So I look at it and I go, well, this is unfortunate, but it's wrapped up. So I put it in my suitcase, don't think anything about it. Go to the hotel. My passport is in my bag and the guy says he's got my bag and he's like, he was like, do you have your passport? I was like, actually, it's in that bag. Just reach in and it's right there. And he reaches it and he grabs and pulls that thing out. Now want you to just think about that. You're standing in the middle of a nice hotel lobby and he pulls that out of your bag and he looks at me with this mixed bile and goes, I don't think this is your passport.

00:49:22
Speaker 2: I think you just got to run with it. You guys, say, man, I'm traveling alone, you know, slowly after in South Africa. Don't judge me. Do not judge me. The heart once when it wants. I always say, the heart once when it wants.

00:49:37
Speaker 3: So he reached the passport. I think he was doing one. I think he was.

00:49:41
Speaker 1: He was doing it on purpose, and so it's embarrassing. And now I got to figure out how I'm gonna get it through custom because they'll go fig your stuff in customs.

00:49:51
Speaker 3: I don't want this to happen again, Drew. I can't.

00:49:54
Speaker 2: I can skip over just someone making you travel with this with this thing, because you're still there a little bit. You know, you've already had packing.

00:50:00
Speaker 3: Here for eleven more days.

00:50:02
Speaker 1: I think it's very rude to ask for a super Can you give me a right? No, That's why the answer is no, That's why I'm postcards. They're gone before I even leave the city. I mail them from the hotel. They're there when I get back. Easy to do, but I know I can't walk around hereat. I was in Europe last year, you know, I was in like eleven countries. They said, bring me a magnet. Magnet back from every country. I was like, okay, but that starts to get heavy when you get a lot of those and they stick together, and it's like it's you will never.

00:50:33
Speaker 3: Hear me ask for a souvenir for me? What's next?

00:50:37
Speaker 5: Two backup quarterbacks in this one o'clock game, Cincinnati first game without Joe Burrow. That didn't look good. Forty eight to.

00:50:43
Speaker 2: Ten the final score.

00:50:44
Speaker 5: Minnesota wins, with Carson Wentz throwing for one hundred and seventy three yards and two touchdowns, five turnovers by Cincinnati and two defensive touchdowns for the Vikings and defensive back Isaiah Rodgers, who become the first.

00:50:56
Speaker 1: Player about Isaiah Rodgers game for a second, Yeah go ahead. He scored a interception return touchdown, fumble return touchdown, and calls two other fumbles.

00:51:07
Speaker 3: I think about that.

00:51:09
Speaker 1: He calls four turnovers it's the most any player. It's the first time anybody's ever done that, that little combination. That is one of the more insane performances of all time in terms of just being able to create havoc.

00:51:24
Speaker 2: Right heck yeah, A guy that I think he went to they said that it's like you master or something like a small school guy coming in the NFL and having a game like that. That's got to be one of the all time performances for defense. That was all in the first half too. Yeah, it's just I mean, that's just all in the first half. He was on fire.

00:51:42
Speaker 3: Wow.

00:51:43
Speaker 1: Well he was definitely talking a lot of trash less said about this game. The better except for Carson Wentz. You know, quarterback controversy. Forty eight points. It looked amazing. I mean, you know, JJ McCarthy has had basically one good quarter, which was the final or quarter against the Bears. Second game not good, and then this and then he doesn't play and Carson Wentz doesn't. I don't know, man, maybe he's maybe Carson Wentz is the new Baker Mayfield put him on a different well, I guess it's like a fourth team.

00:52:15
Speaker 2: But still, no, no, no, not fourteen That's here's what's funny about Carson Wentz. This is his six team in six years. It's like sometimes NBA players like a rondo at the end of the career. I think one game, all right, Yes, he said that was an NFL record. Six teams in six years. Has been quite the journeyman. But you're right. I know they're fired up about McCarthy, but you have Wentz stepping There had two interceptions today. I know defense was a big part of it, but he really handled it well.

00:52:40
Speaker 3: Yeah. He uh.

00:52:42
Speaker 1: You know, as we've said about him before, he got engaged at a castle in Versales, Kentucky, and for that I pull for him. Tough day for the Bengals. You know, Jake Browning played all right last week. I think once you have tape on him, it's gonna be tough for them. With Burrow Owl, I'm not ready to write the Bengals off yet, but I'm pretty close.

00:53:00
Speaker 3: What's next.

00:53:01
Speaker 5: The Commanders defeat the Raiders forty one to twenty four. It's next man up in Washington. Jaden Daniels, No, Austin Eckler, no problem. They've got Marcus Mariota, They've.

00:53:10
Speaker 2: Got Jeremy Nichols.

00:53:11
Speaker 3: He wrote that, didn't you.

00:53:13
Speaker 2: No, I didn't write Yeah, he wrote it, didn't he?

00:53:15
Speaker 3: Yeah? Why didn't you do?

00:53:16
Speaker 2: His radio voice though I was talking about.

00:53:18
Speaker 3: You the way you were like, no, there's no way.

00:53:21
Speaker 1: You on the fly said no, Jaden's Daniels, No, Austin Eckler, no problem, no way.

00:53:26
Speaker 3: You didn't write down.

00:53:26
Speaker 2: All right, Well, you know what, we'll just agree to disagree with Mario.

00:53:29
Speaker 3: Did he write it down?

00:53:30
Speaker 2: I think he wrote it down, Mario Marson. Mario says he does.

00:53:33
Speaker 5: He can come look at my notes. But uh, it was a big win for Washington, and in an odd game. The Raiders are one and two despite Geno Smith throwing for three touchdowns.

00:53:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, here's the only thing I care about this game, my man, Chris Myers starting to get some respect. He got put on this one. That's respect. When I saw Panthers Falcons, I thought, see see you then, Chris. No, No, he got Commanders Raiders.

00:54:03
Speaker 3: And I don't know.

00:54:04
Speaker 1: Where that is on the chart, but I don't feel like that was one of the worst games today on the chart. So Chris Myers, after all these years of having to watch terrible NFC South game after terrible NFC South game. Got to see this in person. Salute to Chris Myers. This might be the best game he gets to see all year.

00:54:24
Speaker 2: You're happy for your boy, Chris Myers. I'm happy for my boy Marcus Mariota, who I didn't even know was still in the NFL former Titan. And I don't know if you saw this, but he took his helmet off. His hair doesn't have a few grays. It's not kind of gray. He has full gray. Oh, it is full gray. Not a little dusting, not a little sprinkle. Mariota is Mariota is gray gray. And I was happy he was still out there having a big game. Films no, no, he can't be at all. This is a big game for him too because Chip Kelly is the OC for Vegas who was his coach at Oregon, so that a big reunion. So I was pretty pretty excited watching Mariota have a big day. I really enjoyed him when he was in Nashville.

00:55:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the great thing is tough, like when it happens to you, but if it happens to you in your early thirties, that would be much worse. You got it on the beard I get it on the sideburns.

00:55:16
Speaker 3: You know.

00:55:16
Speaker 1: The woman that cuts my hair is like, we're going to do gray blending, and sometimes it's like seems like it's more gray when she's done than when she starts.

00:55:26
Speaker 3: So this time I was like, I'm going to South Africa. I don't want any gray. And I mean I'm not.

00:55:31
Speaker 1: Like George Clooney right now in that play when he's going to do but like it's a little it's a little darker than it's normally being. So I can't seem to find quite the balance that we need.

00:55:41
Speaker 2: Well, Mary Oda, he can't be much in thirty one thirty two and he's he's rocking the gray hairy where's it? Well? Ran into dned Oh yeah, dude, good call Billy. Did you see that dan Quinn that looked horrible got run into See that what happened to hit his head on the on the ground real hard? Be boped right back up. I haven't seen anything out afterwards, but I think he was okay, but it looked like it was a nasty fall. He got ran over and his head smacked the ground. Football guy, though he hopped right up.

00:56:10
Speaker 3: Dan quick.

00:56:10
Speaker 1: When I think football guys he's right there. He's right there at the top. By the way, we've gone this far, Cincinnati Reds hot the wild card.

00:56:19
Speaker 3: I'm of course here. I saw on.

00:56:24
Speaker 1: The website. Again, I can't get on social media, so it was on just an old website that the hotel. Yeah, the Reds have against the Pirates this weekend. They're saying might be the biggest series in Cincinnati in six years.

00:56:39
Speaker 3: And of course I'm not there so, but let's go Reds.

00:56:43
Speaker 1: Mets get loose, Reds sweep the Cubs, Mets lose three straight to the Nationals, and now it's tied Drew.

00:56:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very fitting that here in South Africa you'd kind of thrown him the towel a few weeks ago and they had the bad West Coast swing. You leave the country and the Reds like Met's gone, let's flip the switching, and.

00:56:59
Speaker 1: The only guy out playing wells Alley, Like the rest of the team's playing well.

00:57:03
Speaker 2: They've moved Ellie.

00:57:03
Speaker 1: He's hitting like seventh now because they because he's been play so badly. So if they make the playoffs, then I'm here. I'm not going to be thrilled. What's next?

00:57:12
Speaker 5: The Texans are now oh to three after a seventeen to ten loss to the Jacksonville Jaguars. It was Jacksonville's first home win versus the Texans since twenty seventeen, so a long time coming. Brian Thomas Junior, who's been fighting demons, made a big catch late in the fourth quarter. The next play, Travis atn scores the Jaguars win by a touchdown.

00:57:33
Speaker 3: What do you mean he's been fighting demons.

00:57:35
Speaker 5: Well, people are saying he's scared to go over the middle or afraid to get hit.

00:57:39
Speaker 2: He's taken a lot of criticism.

00:57:40
Speaker 3: People are you.

00:57:41
Speaker 1: Are you talking to Brian Thomas People with a lot of Brian Thomas Junior.

00:57:45
Speaker 5: I'd say the NFL media, angry fantasy football owners, just the general consensus.

00:57:50
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I've known you a long time. You've never mentioned Brian Thomas Junior to me. I didn't know you had this strong, strong opinion about it. This was a changing of the guard game for me. Billy hit the right stat. Eighth straight years they've lost at home to the Texans. I picked the Jackaguars to win the division this year. Coats are obviously going to have something to say about it. But I think this is a passing of the torch from the Texans to the Jaguars and Liam Cohen's era today, Drew.

00:58:17
Speaker 2: I agree with the passing of the torch. I've still not sold on Jacksonville overall. I think it might be more of the Texans just coming down. Stroud did not look good at all. He had two bad interceptions. Lawrence was just kind of fine. What I watched this game. Travis Hunter made a nice offensive play. He got to catch and then took some ankles, absolutely juke some guys. But then after the game I see that he played more defense than offense this time, so they're come into the bit. I think it was forty three defensive snaps and thirty seven offensive snaps, so he's really going to split the time.

00:58:48
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I don't know if you can play eighty during a year every game.

00:58:51
Speaker 3: But I like watching them.

00:58:53
Speaker 1: They're actually kind of This wasn't a high scoring game, but they're kind of fun to watch. And they they they had a field they missed a field goal, they had another another kind of weird turnover. I thought they dominated this game and still in one by seven. What's next?

00:59:09
Speaker 5: We've got two games left and it involves three NFC South teams. The first game is the Panthers Falcons, in which Carolina won thirty to zero.

00:59:18
Speaker 1: In that game, another crazy game, the two interception return touchdowns. Michael Pennix looked off. He looked awful. He was throwing the ball.

00:59:31
Speaker 3: Like an old man, like he was awful.

00:59:36
Speaker 1: You know, I like him, but he's an older rookie to begin with, and that was one of the worst performances I've seen from a quarterback for a long long time.

00:59:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, to lose to the Panthers like that, I mean, thirty to nothing. I do have to add here we've mentioned my boy Manny that passed away, our boy. He was a big Panthers guy. He even we've talked about Sir Perr, the mascot. He had a custom Panthers jersey that said sur Perr on the back. So I was smiling really big during this game. We're all texting each other, keep pounding. But what a shocking win for the Panthers to bout thirty and shut out the Falcons, who didn't look nearly as bad until this week.

01:00:10
Speaker 3: Why was many a Panthers fan?

01:00:12
Speaker 2: You know what? He was one of my best friends, and I never even got a clear answer for it. But he was he would, he was always keep pounding on Sundays, and he had a couple of jerseys. In fact, at the funeral, one of his pictures he was in a Panthers jersey. So I did I did smile a little bit when they won thirty oh today.

01:00:28
Speaker 1: The Panthers could not have looked worse than they looked last year or last week, and they could not have looked better than they looked this week. I don't really understand how that's possible. The NFL is such an odd league with such high talent and such hugely different performances week to week, and nothing epitomizes that more than the Panthers. But my takeaway for this game is Michael Pennix. I mean, I had some belief in him coming into this year, and I know it's one game, but that was a brutal performance and he hadn't been great in the first two weeks either. I'd be a little worried if I was a Falcons fan about the Pinnix era.

01:01:07
Speaker 3: Then what's the last?

01:01:08
Speaker 5: Finally, the Seahawks defeat the Saints forty four to thirteen. It was twenty one to zero eleven minutes into the game, and then it was thirty eight to three before halftime.

01:01:19
Speaker 2: Ugly show.

01:01:19
Speaker 1: If you were a Saints fan, what is there to care about? Is there anything to care about the team this year? None of the play none of the quarterbacks are gonna be playing again for you. I mean like they might be a backup, but you're going to be drafted a quarterback. So nothing that happens this year is going to matter. Is there any reason if you're a Saints fan to care about this season at all?

01:01:43
Speaker 2: No, not even a little bit. And like I keep making fun of my team. The Saints are worse. I mean Spencer Ratler and Tyler shar awful. Yeah, Tyler Shaw got in the game today through a couple incompletions, but they were down thirty eight nothing in the second quarter, Like just go home? What are we doing? I mean, what are we doing?

01:02:01
Speaker 1: The they could have scored eighty I no, like for real, I mean this was they could have scored as much as they wanted.

01:02:10
Speaker 3: The Saints are just absolutely horrendous.

01:02:13
Speaker 1: And I've been down here with a Saints fan was in my group and she said she is on.

01:02:20
Speaker 3: A plane right now.

01:02:21
Speaker 1: And she asked me to text updates to her because she could get text, but she couldn't get the game text updates during the game, and I forgot until about ten minutes in and it was already twenty one to nothing, and I just said, you don't want to know, and she said, are you serious? And I was like, it just got worse because they scored again. Yeah, that's what she knew about the game. You just you don't want to know, and it just got worse.

01:02:48
Speaker 2: You should have just sent her, Well you can't, you don't have your phone, but you could have showed her there's an insane punt return, Tony Horton. You had two touchdowns. It was a crazy punt return in that game too, as they were just piling on them early. That's one. If anyone watched the second half, go find something else to do. If you watch the second half from Saint Seahawk's today, because that game was over.

01:03:08
Speaker 1: She is somewhere over the Atlantic Ocean right now. And when you listen to this later, Sorita, I'm sorry about your team. It is really a sad, sad state of affairs. Well, thank you all very much.

01:03:21
Speaker 3: For listening.

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01:03:49
Speaker 2: Oh wow, what could go wrong there?

01:03:52
Speaker 3: Yeah?

01:03:53
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01:04:07
Speaker 2: So nervous, Wowell.

01:04:12
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not excited.

01:04:15
Speaker 1: And they asked, you know, I'm not an adventure god really and there's a lot of that on.

01:04:24
Speaker 3: This and so the repelling I think they call it ab sailing here. I'm not. I'm not looking forward to it.

01:04:33
Speaker 1: But you know what, you only live once you got a try step true, So that's what we're gonna do.

01:04:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, those those non women will teach you how to do it. That'll that'll be a good look for you.

01:04:40
Speaker 3: I'm definitely gonna look really Mainly, I think I.

01:04:47
Speaker 2: Think you ditched your phones. You'd have an excuse to not have any video or photo evidence of.

01:04:52
Speaker 1: Right, no video, the phone's broken, Billy, that's it. If things don't go well, I'll never see these people again. We don't have to act like this ever happened. Thank you guys very much. We'll see you next week on NFL Covers Here NFL Covers zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin as a production of the NFL and iHeart podcast. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.