Thinking Red October: What’s the Phillies' postseason rotation and roster?
The Phillies clinched the NL East on Monday. They will almost certainly clinch a first-round bye in the coming days, too.
The Phils are thinking about the NLDS. They already shuffled their rotation so Cristopher Sánchez will start Tuesday against Miami and Sept. 28 in the regular-season finale against the Twins, which will allow him to start Game 1 of the NLDS on Oct. 4.
Who follows Sánchez?
How many pitchers should the Phillies carry in the NLDS? If they carry only 12, who’s the extra bench player?
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00:00:04 Speaker 1: Hi, this is Chase that Lee. This is a Philly show. 00:00:09 Speaker 2: Hi, everybody, it is September nineteenth, twenty twenty five. 00:00:13 Speaker 1: It's Friday. 00:00:14 Speaker 2: Hope everybody is doing well. We got Ruben Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury. I'm Todds like it's a Philly show. Phillies were off on Thursday, but they won two out of three against the Dodgers. 00:00:26 Speaker 1: Earlier this week they clinched the NL East. Lots of stuff to talk about. 00:00:31 Speaker 2: Rob Thompson, guys, the other day at Dodger Stadium, dropped some serious hints about his postseason rotation. I think we should talk about it. It's time for the park's first pitch. First pitch is brought to us exclusively by our partners at Parks Casino, Pennsylvania's number one casino. 00:00:55 Speaker 1: You know it, guys. Rob Thompson and on. 00:01:01 Speaker 2: This before the series finale on Wednesday, we were talking about the postseason rotation because he had said, we don't know what the rotation is going to be in Arizona because we have to talk to fe You guys, We're gonna shuffle some things around. We're gonna do a couple things in preparation for the final couple weeks of the season, and then he said, yeah, we're gonna have Taiwan Walker and Walker Bueler. They're going to piggyback on Friday, Noah's Saturday. Rangers swore a Sunday. But then he said, Christopher Sanchez is going to start next Tuesday against the Marlins at Citizen Bank Park. 00:01:33 Speaker 1: And why is that? 00:01:34 Speaker 2: Because it allows him to pitch the regular season finale on September twenty eighth against the Twins at Citizen Bank Park and that lines him up to start Game one of the Division Series. 00:01:47 Speaker 1: He also mentioned. 00:01:48 Speaker 2: That we floated the idea of you like the idea of splitting up hard throwing Sanchez hard throwing Jesus Sozarda with Ranger Swarz. He says, I do like that idea, So sounds to me. Guys right now, NLDS, it's gonna be Sanchez, Suarez, Lazardo. Do you see it going any other way? What are your thoughts? 00:02:10 Speaker 3: I'm shocked. 00:02:15 Speaker 1: You didn't see it coming, Jim, I know. 00:02:17 Speaker 3: This is just what we've been talking about for weeks. This is a no brainer. 00:02:22 Speaker 4: Well, I think they're disappointed that they have to go this way. 00:02:25 Speaker 5: To be honest with you, I think that they would rather have a right hander in the rotation and go with your best, and they don't have someone that they can go with. Nola has not pitched well enough to take that spot. Now he might if they go to a Foreman. I gotta believe that he would be the guy. I can't imagine that he would not be the guy. I mean, Walker Buele would. 00:02:46 Speaker 4: Have to throw like. 00:02:48 Speaker 5: Unbelievably well in his next start on was it Friday? 00:02:53 Speaker 4: Is it Friday's doing? 00:02:54 Speaker 1: He's actually gonna he's gonna picky. Yeah, he's gonna get two. Yeah, he's gonna start one. He's gonna start maybe the next time out. 00:03:00 Speaker 4: After doing the Walker Buehler. 00:03:05 Speaker 1: Yes, Rob was very proud of that. 00:03:07 Speaker 4: You're very proud of that. 00:03:08 Speaker 5: They're doing the Taiwan Walker Walker Buehler piggyback. Anyway, Now, I'm not I'm not shocked and I am not shocked that they split up the two guys. 00:03:21 Speaker 4: They're they're you gotta go with Sanchezoarez and and Lizardo. Simple, pretty simple. 00:03:28 Speaker 5: Now, it would have been awesome to be able to have Zach Wheeler in there, but you don't got them, and you gotta go what you what. 00:03:34 Speaker 3: You got, You gotta go with your best. They're your best three, you know, if they're all left handed, they're all left handed. They're the guys who can get who you feel best about getting you out Nola. It would have been great to have it ready, but he hasn't. He hasn't shown enough at this time. Maybe he will for the NLCS. I don't know, but you know, you got to give the ball the You know Sanchez is gonna finish the second to saw Young. He's got to get the ball first. Put the finesse gay in the middle and the other power, so we'll see how it shapes up. I think lefty, righty, if you pitch good, put the ball in good spots, how you can beat anybody. 00:04:08 Speaker 2: So Rob also had something else interesting to say. We asked him a question about Nola. It might have actually been a question about Bueler. Can he do something to kind of push himself into that conversation? And Rob said, I mean, Noah's never pitched out of the pen. So I tried to read between the lines there, and to me, it sounds like if the Phillies get to the NLCS, where you are going to need it for a starter that they are. It's gonna be Nola on a very short leash. 00:04:40 Speaker 4: Correct, Yes, correct, They're gonna have to keep an eye on him. 00:04:43 Speaker 5: And once he starts going south, because that beginning is as nipped him heavy this year and it has over the last couple of years a little bit more. 00:04:51 Speaker 4: Well, things start to unravel for him. 00:04:54 Speaker 5: They're gonna have somebody ready command they have four good innings out of him, maybe Bueler, Piggybacks, maybe somebody else, who knows, but you know, maybe they go with a bullpen type of a scenario. 00:05:08 Speaker 4: Who knows, But he's not coming out of the pen. 00:05:11 Speaker 5: It ain't happening unless it's the seventh game and they have everybody hands on deck and they got to win the seventh game. 00:05:18 Speaker 3: Right and he and you know, he knows where his pocket's going to be, he can start walling up in an hour earlier. 00:05:24 Speaker 4: Right. 00:05:25 Speaker 2: Yeah, It's it's not ideal, of course, but you know, we've seen the Dodgers bullpen their way to a couple of World Series titles over the past few years, so you know, if they can somehow squeeze out three or four good ings from Aaron Nola, go to Walker, Bueller, go to the bullpen. They can make it work. I think so not ideal, but it is what it is. So Yeah, Sanchez, Suarez, Lozardo and then Nola probably in the NLDS, the Dodgers, they could face in the LDS. They're rotation did very well against Phillies offense. What do you guys think about that? I mean, you take away take out the opener that they pitched on Monday night. 00:06:08 Speaker 4: Which was ridiculous. Why ridiculous to throw the opener in there because she has been pitched throwing really really well. 00:06:18 Speaker 5: I mean he could have ended up They could have won that ball game without They. 00:06:24 Speaker 3: Want to show how smart they are. 00:06:25 Speaker 4: Reuben, I think it was ridiculous. But she in in there, let him pitch. The man's been throwing the ball extremely well. Well how about this. You can't understand it. I don't get it. 00:06:35 Speaker 2: Well, the three Dodgers starters, she and Otani Snell, they allowed a combined two hits against Phillies hitters did not allow a single run the entire series. 00:06:47 Speaker 1: Does that have you guys nervous? 00:06:49 Speaker 4: Yes? 00:06:50 Speaker 3: Second round matchup potentially. Yeah, they got it and and the Dodgers been, you know, they they've had some rough pockets, but they've gone this whole year with their eye on October. All that matters for them is October and being ready for October. And they got some firepower in that rotation, as we saw against the Phillies. And they know a lot of folks out there. Yeah, the Phillies don't hit good starters, but you know, just a few weeks ago they demolished a pretty good Seattle rotation. So but you know, recency, they haven't. They didn't hit La Dodgers starters, So you know, I think that would be something to keep an eye on. If it's a second round matchup, NLCS matchup, third round, I guess it would be. 00:07:35 Speaker 5: No doubt it's a concern. But I'm glad that they saw them. It's important that they saw them and got a feel for him. I think just hav't get in there gotten their eyes on him, doesn't mean they're gonna hit them necessarily. But the more you see a guy, the more apt you have a chance to make adjustments on him. 00:07:49 Speaker 4: And it's not new to you. 00:07:52 Speaker 1: They've never faced. 00:07:53 Speaker 5: Otani, they never faced Shean. I mean, you know, they don't face Blake Snell, although they had a lot of success, some of success with him against in the past. 00:08:03 Speaker 4: But Snell was dealing. 00:08:06 Speaker 5: I mean, his stuff was spectacular, and I don't think the twenty seven Yankees coulda hit him so on that particular day. So I'm glad that they saw them. I think it was important and it's important for the next time around. And you have to be concerned about it because they didn't do very much against I mean it literally, I'd like what gave up, like a run, whatever it was. But you have to you have to hope that they're having some familiarity with him now will help them later on. 00:08:37 Speaker 2: Ruben, can you explain the benefit of seeing a picture just for the first time in terms of then seeing them a couple of weeks later or later in the season. 00:08:45 Speaker 1: So, you know, because. 00:08:46 Speaker 2: The Phillies did talk now, we saw the spin, we saw what he's got, you know, talking about Atoni specifically. But can you, as someone who's been in the batter's box, kind of explain that a little bit more? 00:08:56 Speaker 1: Maybe, Yeah, I mean. 00:08:58 Speaker 4: It's pretty obvious. 00:09:00 Speaker 5: I mean throughout my you know, in the minor leagues, I was actually a pretty accomplished offensive player. But when you haven't seen a guy, you haven't seen the rotation the ball out of his hand, you haven't seen how the ball moves. If the guy's throne really consistent strikes. 00:09:15 Speaker 4: It's tough. 00:09:16 Speaker 5: It's tough to it's tough to make the adjustment up that if that person's making mistakes in the middle of the plate. 00:09:22 Speaker 4: Doesn't matter who they are, you can do damage against them. But I think it's. 00:09:26 Speaker 5: Really important for your eyes and your brain and your body to see these pitches and to have seen them live makes a really big difference. Like there's no surprises, Like I've seen every pitch he's thrown. I've seen this change up. 00:09:41 Speaker 4: I see that. 00:09:41 Speaker 5: You know doesn't necessarily mean you're going to have success against him, But the familiarity of knowing what the spin's like, where the ball is likely to break, how that cutter is going to react, Knowing all those things, I think helps your mind and your body adjust a little bit better to him. 00:10:00 Speaker 4: Last time. 00:10:00 Speaker 5: You see this all the time, Like you see a rookie come up and they face a veteran team. If the guy can throw strikes, he's got a really big advantage because. 00:10:12 Speaker 4: Because you know, the veteran guys haven't seen him. If you haven't seen him, it gives you a really big advantage. 00:10:17 Speaker 5: So there is some advantage to have seen to have seen these guys, Not that they're gonna have success against him, but at least they know and have an expectation of how the ball is going to move out of their hand. 00:10:30 Speaker 3: What did just real quick, what did you think about Tommy? 00:10:33 Speaker 4: I thought on time he was spectacular. 00:10:34 Speaker 5: That's the best I've ever seen him throw, and I've seen him throw quite a bit, but his velocity was it. 00:10:40 Speaker 4: Was averaging like one hundred miles an hour in his fastball. I haven't seen him average that kind of fastball. You had really good stuff, man, really impressive. 00:10:50 Speaker 5: And I mean I would assume they'll let let him get stretched out a little bit more in the playoffs, and that's. 00:10:56 Speaker 4: Being so cautious, but who knows, man, what a spect. 00:11:00 Speaker 3: They've been gearing for this, they've been gearing for the postseason, and you know, they've had a lot of injuries in their rotation and they kind of was like, Okay, let's just get healthy for October and see what happens with O Taani class. Now Snell she and who am I missing Yamamoto to. 00:11:17 Speaker 4: Push all those all those guys and piggyback them and you know, keep firing them out there because your bullpen sucks. Their bullpen is terrible. It sucks. It was well, it's really really bad and exploitable. But if they don't pitch. 00:11:35 Speaker 5: And they score enough runs and the starting guys who are getting piggyback hold the other team down and that they don't need that sucky bullpen, it was funny. 00:11:47 Speaker 1: I think. 00:11:50 Speaker 3: You're just blunt. 00:11:53 Speaker 2: I think one of the funniest moments of the week was Raphael Marshawan on on Tuesday night. 00:11:57 Speaker 1: I think they an interview on TV. 00:11:59 Speaker 3: That quote was great. 00:12:00 Speaker 4: That quote was great. 00:12:02 Speaker 2: He was he was asked about Otani and how good he was, and he's like, oh, yeah, he was. 00:12:06 Speaker 1: He's just done for reasons. 00:12:07 Speaker 2: But then they got him out of the game and we were like, oh my gosh, we got a chance, and then we won the game. He started, he was laughing and smiling. He was so happy, obviously because he had that big home run. But I think probably every player in that dugout was party. 00:12:22 Speaker 4: They threw a party when he was pulled out of there. Yeahlutely party in the booth. 00:12:28 Speaker 1: Exactly. 00:12:28 Speaker 2: I mean, Ohani's amazing fifty home runs fifty you know, you know, I. 00:12:35 Speaker 6: Think we had the bias about the m v P, but the one just having watched him do what he did, you know, had he had more starts I think, and had more of an impact as a starter, I think it'd be a runaway as a stands, there's still a fighting fighter's chance at Shoreburg gets gets gets the nod. 00:12:52 Speaker 4: But man, he's he's he's ridiculous. 00:12:57 Speaker 3: They've both had awesome season, and ridiculous is a good word for Otani. I feel like we all think Schwarber is the MVP because we sort of get a very close look at him all the time and the total package from the batter's box to the clubhouse, all the pluses that he brings to that lineup, and you take him out of that lineup and where are you? But I feel like nationally, Otani is just going to be viewed as a notch above Schwarber. I think it's gonna be a fascinating vote, But I do think nationally Otani is going to get a lot of love, so it'll still be a Hey, you don't hold the trophy up. I know when you finished second, but it's still a hell of a season and a hell of an accomplishment. Accomplishment. So hey, that was first pitch and it is presented exclusively by our partners at Parks Casino, Pennsylvania's number one casino. Parkscasino dot com is the website. 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That's good news, ed Mundo Sosa is likely to be activated from the IL before Tuesday nights game against the Marlins at Citizen Bank Park. But the really big news is that trade Turner. It seems to be progressing very well. Every time we've asked Rob Thompson about that, he's kind of, oh my, he's doing great. He's really doing great. I can't even believe how great he's doing. And he's been fielding ground balls, he's been hitting in the cage. He's been jogging at about fifty percent. But he's going to slowly pick that up. And Rob said he thinks he could face live pitching at some point next week, likely against a Phillies minor leaguer who would come down from you know, Lehigh Valley probably and maybe face him at Citizens Bank Park. And wanted to, you know, thoughts on Turner overall, I guess, and his recovery and how important that is before the postseason, just even even if he just comes back on Saturday and Sunday against the Twins, how important is that and then bigger picture postseason. 00:16:44 Speaker 1: I think you know the answer this is he still your lead off hitter? Do you keep Harrison Bader the lead off spot? Did you do anything crazy there, or you just kind of go back to what it was. 00:16:53 Speaker 3: I think it's crucial or it would be great if he gets back, even for a couple of games, just so he can test it and trust it. Right. I think that's huge, and he would go back to the leadoff. For me, Bender is still gonna be a big contributor. He reminds me of a guy who doesn't care where he hits. He just wants to be in there, bring energy, have fun, barrel few up and see what you can do. But that's the way I would go. 00:17:15 Speaker 4: Yeah, I completely agree with Jim. 00:17:17 Speaker 5: I think it's really important for him just because his legs are probably the biggest part of what he does. His range and the defensively I mean, stops played well at short for him, he's done a really nice job. Looks like he hasn't missed a beat since being the move to second base and with Mundo Sosa out having to be put in that position, he's done a nice job. But you gotta have Turner at the leadoff slot. He is an MVP type player. He's had the most hits in baseball other than maybe what Freddie Freeman. 00:17:49 Speaker 4: I guess in the National League or whoever it is. 00:17:53 Speaker 5: This is you know, he's the catalyst for the team, but his legs are really important, man. And my concern is is he could come back like eighty. 00:18:01 Speaker 9: Five percent trade turner or is you're gonna come back one hundred trade turner and be able to go first a third, first, a home steal bases, beat out a infield ground ball, you know, those kind of have the range that he's had and shown. 00:18:17 Speaker 5: Because he's really improved defensively this year. That's real concern. I'm hopeful that they nipped it in a bud so early that he will be ready to do lead those things and will be one hundred percent. 00:18:32 Speaker 4: But you just don't know. 00:18:35 Speaker 2: It'd be good to see him come back, you know, even again just for a couple of games and then you get to. 00:18:39 Speaker 5: Buy so big for him to come back and play a couple yeah, yeah, and then you get to buy. 00:18:44 Speaker 1: So you know, if they would, they're I think they're gonna win the buye. 00:18:47 Speaker 2: They have like a basically a six and a half game lead over the Dodgers with nine to play, so. 00:18:52 Speaker 1: They're gonna get that buy. 00:18:53 Speaker 2: So that means that that the postseason NLDS Game one is Saturday, October fourth, as opposed to a Game one of the Wildcard Series, which is Tuesday, September thirtieth, So you get an extra five six days of him being able to kind of get off his feet and rest up and then get his you know, get looked. 00:19:10 Speaker 1: At by the trainers and work down by the trainers. So uh. 00:19:12 Speaker 2: And then the other thing to kind of keep an eye on is he's really close to winning that batting title. So that'd be kind of a nice little thing to watch the final couple of games. If he does come back, he's got to get some hits. 00:19:25 Speaker 4: Yeah, if you hit three hundred, you're gonna win a batting title. 00:19:28 Speaker 1: It looks like, yeah, he's hitting three h five. Yeah, it's it's a different days. These are different times, Reuben. 00:19:35 Speaker 4: I don't care. In the American mean something. 00:19:41 Speaker 5: Absolutely, hits mean something, and it's been marginalized. 00:19:46 Speaker 4: The base hit means something absolutely. 00:19:49 Speaker 2: I mean, well, Trace had his best year this year because he's getting a hit. 00:19:54 Speaker 3: Focusing on that because he didn't he didn't take it personal and and say they're picking on me when they sat them down and said we want you to change a few things in spring training. He went out and said, I work for you. You guys are paying me handsomely. 00:20:09 Speaker 2: I'll do that, and he did it. 00:20:12 Speaker 4: We talked about become. 00:20:13 Speaker 5: An MPP caliber player again. I used to talk about it before, Like last year he went through stet he went through two years ago, from the second half to the first half. If you put extra pola to those numbers together, I mean he had like MVP type numbers, but it wasn't really that consistent, sadly, and then he got hurt. But some really great offensive players the reason why he's getting paid three hundred million dollars. 00:20:38 Speaker 3: And it sounds funny to say, but he's It sounds funny to say, three hundred million dollar player, former batting champ, great, great player, great talent. He's like one of the most improved players in the national English year. Correct because when you mix, when you look at where the defense has come and gone great college, some of the struggles really proves you can be a great player and still. 00:20:59 Speaker 1: Get absolutely Yeah. 00:21:02 Speaker 2: I mean we said Sharman might finish second Tony for MVP. 00:21:06 Speaker 1: I think Turner could finish top five. 00:21:08 Speaker 2: You could have two top two Phillies in the top five potentially, no question. 00:21:12 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean turn trade Turners. Tree Turner has played well. 00:21:16 Speaker 2: It will be great for the Phillies to get him back before the end of the regular season. 00:21:21 Speaker 1: At that end, it ends up happening. Eagles coming up this weekend. 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I want to ask you guys. 00:25:02 Speaker 2: Another thing Rob Thompson said this week in the Los Angeles talking about the NLDS. Besides the rotation, he said, for that five game series, because of off days, he would he would feel comfortable. Doesn't say it's gonna happen, but he would feel comfortable maybe going with a twelve man pitching staff, which would give him an extra bench guy. 00:25:22 Speaker 1: Do you guys like that idea? 00:25:23 Speaker 2: If so, who would the extra Who would you want as the extra bench guy right now? So you'd have Real Muto, Marshawn, Boehm, Harper, Sosa, Scott Turner, marsh Bader, Kepler, Schwarber, Castianos, and then either Camp or Wilson on there. 00:25:42 Speaker 1: That would leave either whoever you. 00:25:43 Speaker 2: Don't pick Kemp or Wilson and Johann Rojas and Garrett Stubbs's possibilities. 00:25:50 Speaker 3: It's a good question. You could you could bring the speed in the defense in Rojas, or you could stick with the chemistry factor and stay with Otto Camp and Weston Wilson or you know, it's a tough call, but I might just stick with the chemistry. I think a lot of people might laugh at that, but you know it is you get a base running play by Rojas or a big play in the outfield, it's valuable. But I just have liked the way they've played lately with this configuration of players, and maybe you go that way. What do you think, guys? 00:26:26 Speaker 5: I think for me, Auto camp and West and Wilson have played themselves onto the team. 00:26:32 Speaker 1: I think they have, and. 00:26:35 Speaker 4: I frankly would go with eleven pictures. 00:26:37 Speaker 5: They're not going to do it. I'd go to eleven pictures. Really, it's a it's a five game series. Yeah, we used to play with nine freaking pictures. 00:26:47 Speaker 4: It's not going to happen. 00:26:48 Speaker 5: Use three starters anyway. I know it's not gonna happen. But I would go with eleven and six. 00:26:55 Speaker 4: But that's just me. 00:26:57 Speaker 5: Next thanks, And if they do go six, I put Roless on it because they need a speed somebody from second base. 00:27:07 Speaker 1: Defensively, he's he's an option, a great option as well. If they would. You know, you have to do a pinch hitting situation, and. 00:27:13 Speaker 3: It's true, you could go with eleven. They used to go with nine man pitching staff for a whole season. Thank you, you really could, and that would really you'd have a you have a bench, then I'll tell you that. 00:27:24 Speaker 5: I would never have played in the big leagues if we if they had a configuration. 00:27:28 Speaker 4: Now would you even need I would have never been in the big leagues. 00:27:31 Speaker 2: But so you're saying a fifteen man position players, you wouldn't even like, how would you use those guys's what. 00:27:39 Speaker 3: Would you be? 00:27:39 Speaker 4: It would be pinch hitting for for Kepler and Castianos. That's that's the difference. Okay, you'd be pinchitting for both of those guys. I mean, given the situation. 00:27:50 Speaker 3: And you could use Castianos as pinch hitter and then not put them in the field correct. 00:27:55 Speaker 2: Like they did and everybody going, what it's happening here? 00:28:01 Speaker 4: And Rob and Cassie and the making a hell of a player in the outfield the other night. That I mean, it's pretty damn good play. You gotta give him some love for that. That said, he just doesn't have the same foot speed and doesn't have the same you know, defensive abilities as some of the other guys too. 00:28:19 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean lose a game with. 00:28:22 Speaker 4: The without having your best defensive team out there. 00:28:25 Speaker 1: Right, he did do that the other night. 00:28:28 Speaker 2: Rob sent Nick up there after Harper homer and the eighth inning, and and then he played right field, which is a gamble of course. 00:28:35 Speaker 1: And I mean Rob then the next day basically said I told him he was going to go up and pinchhit. So it sounds like he didn't want to like pull him back and. 00:28:43 Speaker 4: He didn't want to dry up him. 00:28:45 Speaker 3: Right the players manager, does you know, you tell the guys something, you stick to it. 00:28:50 Speaker 1: Right, But in the postseason that does not happen, right. 00:28:54 Speaker 5: Because in the postseason, if they go up, I think the situation is different. You'll probably say, you know you ready if we happen to go ahead. 00:29:03 Speaker 2: Yes, if the big man, Yeah, if Harper hits a home run here and we take the lead, or we take the lead before you're not we're pulling. 00:29:12 Speaker 4: You back, then we're gonna pull you back. Yeah. 00:29:14 Speaker 13: Yeah, you have to be open in honest with him. I mean, listen, this is about one thing, man winning double hues. Put the best players out there that you can. You don't know if it's gonna work, but that's that's what you do. 00:29:27 Speaker 3: You sold me on the eleven man? Staff go to eleven? 00:29:31 Speaker 4: It won't happen. 00:29:33 Speaker 3: It's already that's already too. 00:29:34 Speaker 5: Many guys I would go to. 00:29:39 Speaker 4: I would go, I would do eleven. But that's not gonna happen. 00:29:43 Speaker 3: You got Length and two guys out there. You carry Walker and Walker. Bueller you got Length and two? Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah right? 00:29:51 Speaker 2: Well so wait, so you would put Walk Taiwan Walker and Walker bla So Aaron Nola would not make the postseason roster? 00:29:58 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, Nola's gonna be on so hot? What do you got? 00:30:02 Speaker 4: Timon Walker would not so you bounced Walker? 00:30:05 Speaker 3: Okay? 00:30:05 Speaker 2: Correct, right, okay, okay, interesting, This is good stuff, man, I. 00:30:10 Speaker 3: Mean I don't see them doing that. I will not do it. 00:30:13 Speaker 4: They will not do it. 00:30:14 Speaker 3: They appreciate what he's done. 00:30:15 Speaker 4: I would do it. 00:30:16 Speaker 5: I would like to do it because I want to trust my starters, because they If my starters don't go long, man, we're screwed anyway. 00:30:25 Speaker 3: They're not going to disrespect Timon Walker like that. He's given them, giving them a nice contribution this year. They're not going to do that. I don't think. But yeah, it makes a lot of sense. In the short series. 00:30:38 Speaker 1: Absolutely it does, absolutely does. 00:30:39 Speaker 2: So, okay, guys, Phillies Diamondbacks three games series. Diamondbacks are still trying to catch the Mets. Nobody seems to really want to win the last wild card spot, including the Diamondbacks. Friday night nine forty pm Eastern, it is the Walker Buehler piggyback against Ryan Nelson. Saturday at eight ten pm Eastern, it's Aaron Nola against Zach Gallon. And then Sunday four to ten pm Eastern, it is Rangers Suarez against Eduardo Rodriguez. 00:31:12 Speaker 5: They did not play well here in the desert. Let's just call a spade of spade here, my friends. They did not play well in the desert, and they need to play play better baseball. 00:31:24 Speaker 4: I mean, listen, they took two out of three against the Dodgers. 00:31:27 Speaker 5: That was phenomenal, no question about it, and they showed a lot of heart. 00:31:34 Speaker 11: Uh. 00:31:35 Speaker 5: But this has been a rough place for them here in the desert, and I'd like to see them turn things around. 00:31:42 Speaker 2: They still have it, They still have a chance to catch the Brewers for the number one seed. Brewers have the tiebreakers, so you know, whatever the lead is two and a half games. It's you know, our a game and a half two and a half games, So just keep that in mind when you look at the standings. 00:31:55 Speaker 1: But they have a chance. You get the number one seed. Now you're not facing the the NLDS. 00:32:01 Speaker 2: Not that there's any gimmes or anything like that, but you'd be playing the Podres or the Cubs then potentially in the NLDS. 00:32:08 Speaker 5: And I like the way they match up against those two teams. I mean they've played the Dodgers well, there's no question about it. But that Dodgers team is. 00:32:16 Speaker 4: Stacked with tealent you don't want to mess and they are the reigning champions. 00:32:22 Speaker 2: Yes, sir, yes sir, so a lot of so they have a lot of play for this week and they need they need to keep playing well. So guys, we will be back next week. 00:32:35 Speaker 3: Smell your ladd boys, Smelling Jim. 00:32:38 Speaker 2: The Philly Show is brought to you by the Foul Territory Network. Subscribe to The Philly Show on YouTube and wherever you get your podcasts.