Industry Secrets Exposed: Why Gigi Dior Waited Years to Go All the Way

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<v Speaker 2>Only ggdor Hi.
<v Speaker 4>Thank you so much for having me. Of course, this
<v Speaker 4>is an amazing space. I'm so excited I get to
<v Speaker 4>be the first few guests at the studio.
<v Speaker 2>I'm so excited to have you here. I will have
<v Speaker 2>more fans here next time I come here. I only
<v Speaker 2>need more fans. Only fans, That's all I need. Shas plug,
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<v Speaker 2>we really do.
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, So thank you so much for coming on.
<v Speaker 2>I know that like we did our little, our little
<v Speaker 2>uh pre game interview on the red carpet, Yes, and
<v Speaker 2>that clip went like viral.
<v Speaker 1>It did so well.
<v Speaker 4>That's amazing.
<v Speaker 1>Are you used to that kind of Does all your
<v Speaker 1>social media content do that? Well?
<v Speaker 4>Like, not all of it, but I like to. When
<v Speaker 4>I like deliver something, I like to go big or
<v Speaker 4>go home. So it makes me happy when it does,
<v Speaker 4>because you know it's good for you, it's good for me,
<v Speaker 4>it's good for all of us.
<v Speaker 1>So how long have you banned the industry for?
<v Speaker 4>Five years this month?
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow?
<v Speaker 4>Five years this month? And ironically I started camming, so
<v Speaker 4>that's where I got my start. So when you said
<v Speaker 4>like you didn't need a social media following, I started
<v Speaker 4>from zero. Yeah, yeah I had. I started with a
<v Speaker 4>stage name and a Instagram and Twitter with zero followers.
<v Speaker 1>How was camming for you like when you got into it?
<v Speaker 1>Was it what you expected?
<v Speaker 4>I expected it to be very slow. I was like,
<v Speaker 4>who's gonna want to jump on and see me on cam?
<v Speaker 4>And my first night I had to get off early
<v Speaker 4>because I was so overwhelmed with the traffic that I
<v Speaker 4>was like, oh my god. I had no idea. And
<v Speaker 4>then I kind of was like, oh, well, that's just
<v Speaker 4>going to be easy. So I think it went like
<v Speaker 4>crazy easy, and then it kind of, you know, I
<v Speaker 4>had to find my groove. And but camping for me
<v Speaker 4>will always be where like I started. It's my home,
<v Speaker 4>it's my first love. I absolutely love camming. I can
<v Speaker 4>do it from home, and you know, when I'm done,
<v Speaker 4>throw some sweatpants on and then I'm home. So I
<v Speaker 4>absolutely love it.
<v Speaker 2>You can even do it in your sweatpants.
<v Speaker 5>I have.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I know, like girls that tell me that
<v Speaker 2>they sometimes they don't put on makeup or get dressed.
<v Speaker 4>No, And now that I've been in the adult industry
<v Speaker 4>for a little bit, some of the fans actually prefer
<v Speaker 4>those days when I'm not all made up because they
<v Speaker 4>get to see like the studio work of me, all
<v Speaker 4>like made up in hair and makeup. But those days
<v Speaker 4>on like you know and sex panther or on on campsites,
<v Speaker 4>those are just me, you know, those are like the
<v Speaker 4>real me, and they get to see like a different
<v Speaker 4>version of me. So sometimes I do Sometimes I just eat.
<v Speaker 4>I love those streets like I want to do that.
<v Speaker 4>I just eat like chips and just like we talk
<v Speaker 4>sports or we talk you know stuff, and it's it's amazing.
<v Speaker 4>I've had some of my most diehard fans come from kimming.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, because that real time connection can't really
<v Speaker 2>be be.
<v Speaker 4>Right, you can't, you can't. The crazy part I have
<v Speaker 4>found that a lot of people don't maybe understand though,
<v Speaker 4>is they see all of you, but we don't see
<v Speaker 4>them right. So I think they think that there's like
<v Speaker 4>this deep connection sometimes and yes, like you're chatting and
<v Speaker 4>stuff and you so you are definitely getting to know them.
<v Speaker 4>But there's one of me and there's thousands of them,
<v Speaker 4>so you know they'll be like, oh, I know her,
<v Speaker 4>and I'm like, I know you from on the line,
<v Speaker 4>So you know you have to It's sometimes a little
<v Speaker 4>bit of a balance.
<v Speaker 2>Do you have, Like I'm sure you've had fans that
<v Speaker 2>have like crossed boundary lines with you, Like how do
<v Speaker 2>you manage that?
<v Speaker 4>I set firm expectations. I think being older, I think
<v Speaker 4>it's a little easier setting the boundaries.
<v Speaker 1>Supposedly we've learned how to Supposedly, Yeah, by this point.
<v Speaker 4>It's something I'm still, you know, very very hard at
<v Speaker 4>work at. But you know, they I warn them and
<v Speaker 4>then I always say, like it's a three strike. You know,
<v Speaker 4>you have three shots and if you continue to push me,
<v Speaker 4>then you'll block or you're out. And I'm pretty firm
<v Speaker 4>with that. And then if I'm on a campsite or whatever,
<v Speaker 4>I have really great moderators and they helped me enforce that.
<v Speaker 4>They're like, you're not going to be disrespectful more than
<v Speaker 4>a couple of times.
<v Speaker 2>These moderators are generally like, started off as fans, right,
<v Speaker 2>and now you elevate.
<v Speaker 4>Them to be yes and my mods are some of
<v Speaker 4>my best friends now, so they've seen me from day one,
<v Speaker 4>so they're amazing. Yeah, they're incredible.
<v Speaker 2>So, speaking of day one, let's talk about your start
<v Speaker 2>in the industry. So you came into adult entertainment after
<v Speaker 2>over a decade in me stream fashion, modeling, TV, infomercials,
<v Speaker 2>a Bloodhound Gang music video which with Bam mcgara.
<v Speaker 1>I hadn't like heard either of those names and so
<v Speaker 1>long I was.
<v Speaker 4>Like, oh my god, right, no right, blasts in the past.
<v Speaker 1>What made you finally crossover covid?
<v Speaker 2>Ah, I love Everyone said like covid was the gateway drugs.
<v Speaker 4>It was, it was a gateway. So I had done
<v Speaker 4>mainstream and so I was comfortable on camera and things
<v Speaker 4>like that. So I was at home painting and I
<v Speaker 4>was listening to a show on WE or something, and
<v Speaker 4>this girl had had this beautiful house and she was
<v Speaker 4>always home, and I was like, So I googled what
<v Speaker 4>she did for a living and she's it said she
<v Speaker 4>was a cam model, So I was like, what's that?
<v Speaker 4>So then I like I remember sitting on our stairs
<v Speaker 4>in the front entryway and like the paint is right there,
<v Speaker 4>and then I'm on my phone and I'm just like
<v Speaker 4>down this rabbit hole of like what camling was. And
<v Speaker 4>then I found like Ainsley Divine, and you know, she
<v Speaker 4>was one of my first like like mentors, like people
<v Speaker 4>I looked up to, and so I just kind of
<v Speaker 4>started doing some research. And then my significant other came
<v Speaker 4>home that night and I was like, Hey, what do
<v Speaker 4>you think about this? And he's like, are you kidding?
<v Speaker 4>And I was like no, and so we kind of
<v Speaker 4>like let it sit for simmer for a little while,
<v Speaker 4>and then he started doing some research and I started
<v Speaker 4>doing some research. And really what got me in was
<v Speaker 4>I have children and and I know it we'll talk
<v Speaker 4>about it in a little bit, but I had stomach
<v Speaker 4>surgery and I had badical bills, and I wasn't working
<v Speaker 4>during COVID, and I had kids, a little kids at home,
<v Speaker 4>so I was looking for extra way to make money
<v Speaker 4>from home and not have to like you know, I
<v Speaker 4>was cleaning other people's houses and you know, just to
<v Speaker 4>make ends meet. And so when I found camming, it's
<v Speaker 4>changed my life.
<v Speaker 1>Wow.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely So what is it about like that move
<v Speaker 2>that made you realize, like, this is something that I
<v Speaker 2>definitely wanted to do.
<v Speaker 4>I'm not no, I'm just kidding. There are days where
<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure it is, But was it? No? There,
<v Speaker 4>you know, it's definitely a roller coaster. I think once
<v Speaker 4>I saw that it was a business, and then if
<v Speaker 4>I ran it as such, it had the potential of
<v Speaker 4>being extremely lucrative and changing not only my life but
<v Speaker 4>my family's life for the foreseeable future and to make
<v Speaker 4>up for, you know, financial issues that I had run
<v Speaker 4>into in my first divorce and different things like that.
<v Speaker 4>And then on top of that, it also has given
<v Speaker 4>me so much strength and so much confidence and like
<v Speaker 4>a just like a confidence in my sexuality.
<v Speaker 2>So you came in because you know, I mean, there's
<v Speaker 2>the age old debate about like when is too young
<v Speaker 2>to come into the porn industry, and there's quite a
<v Speaker 2>few people that think that eighteen is too young. You
<v Speaker 2>obviously came in later. Are you happy that you came
<v Speaker 2>in later?
<v Speaker 4>I had submitted my pictures Playboy in two thousand and
<v Speaker 4>six and I got a call back, and then I
<v Speaker 4>found out I was pregnant with my oldest, so I
<v Speaker 4>had to put that on the back burner. So I
<v Speaker 4>think porn was always something that I may have been
<v Speaker 4>drawn to. It was just a timing thing and a
<v Speaker 4>support thing because with kids at home and stuff, it
<v Speaker 4>was it definitely I needed that extra support and that
<v Speaker 4>extra help and guidance, and I wasn't getting that back then.
<v Speaker 4>So I think there's definitely an advantage to getting in
<v Speaker 4>older because I now know it is a business. I
<v Speaker 4>think if I had done it in my twenties, I
<v Speaker 4>may have partied a little harder and you know, done
<v Speaker 4>all of that a little more. But I sometimes look
<v Speaker 4>back and I wish I had because I think that
<v Speaker 4>extra experience and the extra time in and porn's so
<v Speaker 4>different now, even in five years, it's so different. I
<v Speaker 4>can't imagine what an extra fifteen or twenty on top
<v Speaker 4>of that would have been.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I will like argue that the time that
<v Speaker 2>you got in was a time where like models have
<v Speaker 2>the most power and the most like flexibility an agency
<v Speaker 2>over their careers because completely, you know, I've been in this,
<v Speaker 2>I've been in the ship twenty seven years and it's like, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, before you were completely dependent on
<v Speaker 2>whatever director wanted to book you, and then you got
<v Speaker 2>your day rate and that was it. And then like
<v Speaker 2>once you got shot out, like what were you going
<v Speaker 2>to do? Really? You know, some girls had solo model websites,
<v Speaker 2>but to be successful with those was pretty difficult, pretty difficult,
<v Speaker 2>and nothing compared to like what girls I'm making on
<v Speaker 2>OnlyFans now, like.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, even not even close. And I think having the
<v Speaker 4>ability of all of the opportunities we have now has
<v Speaker 4>allowed me to stay on the East coast, yeah, where
<v Speaker 4>my kids are, versus having to be local in La
<v Speaker 4>or Vegas or you know, It's given me that power
<v Speaker 4>to be able to camp from home when I'm when
<v Speaker 4>I'm not on on studio.
<v Speaker 2>So you started off camming, Yes, you're doing scenes now?
<v Speaker 5>Yes?
<v Speaker 1>How did that transition happen?
<v Speaker 4>So? I was probably camming for about eight months and
<v Speaker 4>I had an agent approached me at one of the
<v Speaker 4>conventions and was like, I have you ever thought about
<v Speaker 4>and so I was like, sure, I'll give it a shot.
<v Speaker 4>So I did my first scene in March of twenty two,
<v Speaker 4>so almost a full year in.
<v Speaker 2>Had you done any work with other performers before then,
<v Speaker 2>like for camming or girl girl?
<v Speaker 4>Just you know, a little girl girl here and there,
<v Speaker 4>but very light and no and most of my only
<v Speaker 4>fan stuff was just getting launched. Like I had a
<v Speaker 4>very very very like I had like two videos like
<v Speaker 4>nothing crazy. So I shot in March and I absolutely
<v Speaker 4>hated it. I cried after the scene. I cried the
<v Speaker 4>whole way home. Was it a bad scene in retrospect?
<v Speaker 2>Yes?
<v Speaker 1>Okay?
<v Speaker 4>So and I worn new performers of this now as
<v Speaker 4>like I kind of like, you know, the moms of
<v Speaker 4>the industry, I say, be very careful on what you
<v Speaker 4>say your limits are and what your jews and don'ts
<v Speaker 4>are because porn jews and don'ts and porn lingo is
<v Speaker 4>very different than like bedroom lingo of like just a
<v Speaker 4>regular regular person.
<v Speaker 1>Do you have like any specific examples.
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, So, like I went in and I was like,
<v Speaker 4>they were like, you know, what do you do? What
<v Speaker 4>do you don't? And I was like, I like it
<v Speaker 4>rough and porn rough is a very different rough than
<v Speaker 4>married bedroom ruffy. Yeah, I yah, yeah, I was choked
<v Speaker 4>and I didn't realize that I need to say you
<v Speaker 4>can't put your hands like you could put your hands there,
<v Speaker 4>but no, you know, no restriction. Correct. Yeah, make sure
<v Speaker 4>that I can breathe, there's no slapping, no sp you know,
<v Speaker 4>the a lot of things that I incorporate into my
<v Speaker 4>Jews and don'ts now because of other shoots and because
<v Speaker 4>of preferences and things, I had no and no guidance
<v Speaker 4>on it.
<v Speaker 1>Did you guys do a boundary checklist on this set? No?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, That's a big thing about that's great about the
<v Speaker 2>boundary checklist that we do now is that they're very specific.
<v Speaker 4>Almost so specific that like there's stuff on some of
<v Speaker 4>those lists. I'm like, I didn't even think it's like
<v Speaker 4>I was in the thought of that, but it's on
<v Speaker 4>there for a reason.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because like what if, yeah, someone does it to
<v Speaker 2>you and you're like, I didn't know.
<v Speaker 1>I had to say no to that.
<v Speaker 4>Exactly, yeah, exactly, Like even like there, like I was
<v Speaker 4>fish hooked and like I'm okay now with it, but
<v Speaker 4>it was startling when it's your first time at there.
<v Speaker 4>And so so I went home and I was crying
<v Speaker 4>and I was like this isn't for me. I'm like,
<v Speaker 4>I'm just going to CAM. So I did. I went
<v Speaker 4>home and I continued to CAM from March until October,
<v Speaker 4>and then October the agent called me again and he
<v Speaker 4>was like, I have like five shoots for you in Florida.
<v Speaker 4>Do you want to come down? So I went. I
<v Speaker 4>stayed in Miami for I think I was there for
<v Speaker 4>like two weeks and I shot like five or six
<v Speaker 4>scenes and it was a whole different experience. I went
<v Speaker 4>in with a different head, like, you know, a different
<v Speaker 4>boundary obviously, boundaries. I looked up boundaries, like I googled it,
<v Speaker 4>like Google has been my best friend during this journey, Like, yeah,
<v Speaker 4>I googled what boundaries were, what do's and don'ts were.
<v Speaker 4>I watched porn to see like what I was okay
<v Speaker 4>with and what it wasn't.
<v Speaker 1>Did you look up the companies that you were working for?
<v Speaker 4>Yes, so they were. They were different too, They weren't
<v Speaker 4>first time companies. They were in more reputable, like you know,
<v Speaker 4>more common scenes too. So and then I was just
<v Speaker 4>more vocal, you know. And the longer I've been in,
<v Speaker 4>the more vocal I get. I'm like, no, I'm not
<v Speaker 4>okay with this or yeah, like you know, you get
<v Speaker 4>it's weird. I always call my boundaries like a like
<v Speaker 4>a piece of spaghetti, right, Like sometimes they're very, very
<v Speaker 4>firm and they're very consistent, and then other times they're
<v Speaker 4>like boiled pasta and it's a little loose and you know,
<v Speaker 4>it's a little at Dundee, you know, I kind of
<v Speaker 4>just you know, it moves around a little bit. So
<v Speaker 4>but yeah, so and then October. I've shot almost every
<v Speaker 4>month since October of twenty two. Wow. Yeah, so a lot.
<v Speaker 4>It's been a lot, Like I haven't even added my scene,
<v Speaker 4>so we're not.
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure there's somebody out there that knows how many scenes.
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure there is someone keeping track.
<v Speaker 4>Somebody knows that number, if.
<v Speaker 1>You know, wonderful like autistic fans.
<v Speaker 4>We love you.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what has been your favorite scene you think that
<v Speaker 2>you've done so far? Like if there was someone who
<v Speaker 2>was watching and they're new and they're like, oh this,
<v Speaker 2>you know, girls hot, like I want to check her out.
<v Speaker 1>Like where would you be, like you should go watch
<v Speaker 1>this scene.
<v Speaker 4>Oh, that's a tough question. I loved my I was
<v Speaker 4>a main none of my first feature last year for Elegant,
<v Speaker 4>which was Breakthrough. Yeah, so we got to really like
<v Speaker 4>act like and you know, not just go on and
<v Speaker 4>have sex. So that was probably one of my favorites
<v Speaker 4>to date. But as far as like having fun on set.
<v Speaker 4>Let's see, I did Team Skeet with Dee Williams and
<v Speaker 4>Millie Morgan. That one went really really like. That one
<v Speaker 4>did really well. That one was incredible. That was just fun,
<v Speaker 4>you know, like I think those are those are my
<v Speaker 4>best day or one you forget you're working, yeah, and
<v Speaker 4>you're like, oh my god, we're done. Okay, So I
<v Speaker 4>just shot a girl girl scene with my Ramones or
<v Speaker 4>a Quasar and it hasn't been dropped yet, but it's insane.
<v Speaker 2>It's any It's Quasy is like one of my best friends.
<v Speaker 2>Like I just love being around him and his energy
<v Speaker 2>and he's amazing.
<v Speaker 4>It was on set, it was just incredible. It was
<v Speaker 4>just a great day. Like her and I had great chemistry.
<v Speaker 4>So that's a really good one when that one drops.
<v Speaker 4>Let's see, Millie Morgan and I did Team Skeet one
<v Speaker 4>and that was a blast because she's a blast. Yea,
<v Speaker 4>so we did a swap. So yeah, those are a
<v Speaker 4>couple of my tops.
<v Speaker 2>Any like dream scenes that you haven't done, or dream
<v Speaker 2>performers you haven't worked with yet that you really want to.
<v Speaker 4>Probably mostly girls, ironically, there's not that many guys. No
<v Speaker 4>there's not that thing.
<v Speaker 1>It's probably worked with almost.
<v Speaker 4>All almost all of them, and if I haven't, they're
<v Speaker 4>probably coming up. So I mean, I know I've I've
<v Speaker 4>said it before. Like there's the icons like Kendra and
<v Speaker 4>and Brandy Love, under Lust, kender Lust. Sorry, yeah, I
<v Speaker 4>mean that's those are probably my two top right now. Yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 4>those are probably like but you know, dream scenes no, like,
<v Speaker 4>I just like, I love the creativity of it. I
<v Speaker 4>love when we have a script but we can play
<v Speaker 4>with it and you know, really make it our own.
<v Speaker 1>Do you prefer shooting features like with acting or do
<v Speaker 1>you prefer shooting gonzo or are they just different?
<v Speaker 4>They're just different. They're just different in their own you know.
<v Speaker 4>The ones with scripts and the features are long days
<v Speaker 4>and you know there it's a lot of work, but
<v Speaker 4>it's you know, it's amazing because you get to really show, like, yeah,
<v Speaker 4>more than just your sexual acts and those. But then
<v Speaker 4>the gonzo scenes are great because sometimes it's just fun
<v Speaker 4>to get out there.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you're done quick.
<v Speaker 4>You're done quick, and you you know, still have the
<v Speaker 4>rest of your day yourself exactly exactly.
<v Speaker 2>You had a pretty significant trademark dispute with Christian Dior
<v Speaker 2>in your history, so walk me through that. We experienced
<v Speaker 2>that with Lexus by the way, well really yeah. We
<v Speaker 2>had this girl who was was Lexus Locklear.
<v Speaker 1>She was like back in the eighties.
<v Speaker 2>My mom shot her a ton and we started our
<v Speaker 2>websites Who's done, and then yeah, Lexus came after us
<v Speaker 2>and we were like, wow.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so that's that's yeah. I did virtual expis the
<v Speaker 4>very first year I was in the business.
<v Speaker 1>I forgot about that.
<v Speaker 4>We were still virtual Yeah. Yeah, so I did breakout
<v Speaker 4>groups and one of the seminars we sat through was
<v Speaker 4>to trademark your name, especially when you're in and you're
<v Speaker 4>a newer, because as you grow, people can you know,
<v Speaker 4>steal your name and all that. So that was one
<v Speaker 4>of the first things we did after we came up
<v Speaker 4>with the stage name. We trademarked it and successfully, Like
<v Speaker 4>I got the you know, the go ahead, and shortly
<v Speaker 4>after that, I got a letter in the mail from
<v Speaker 4>Christian do yor Or and their conglomerate and said that
<v Speaker 4>they were fighting me on the trademark due to disillusion
<v Speaker 4>a brand and they were going to fight me. So
<v Speaker 4>that was a three year battle.
<v Speaker 1>Wow, three years, so you you didn't fold.
<v Speaker 4>I did not fold. You were like, no, bitch, nope,
<v Speaker 4>you're gonna have to like, no, you're not. I'm not folding.
<v Speaker 1>So how did you end up?
<v Speaker 2>I Mean, the thing is is like with trademarks, it's
<v Speaker 2>like it's all about the area that you work in, right,
<v Speaker 2>Like you because my name is trademarked, right, It's like
<v Speaker 2>I'm trademarked, but like in these specific correct areas like
<v Speaker 2>I can't Tolie Randall isn't trademarked for like cooking, right,
<v Speaker 2>or like cultinary products. Don't start a fucking snow named
<v Speaker 2>after me. But I'm just saying like it would be
<v Speaker 2>hard for me to go after someone.
<v Speaker 1>Right for that.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, And everybody that I spoke to said that they
<v Speaker 4>didn't feel that they had a leg to stand on
<v Speaker 4>because I was trademarking it under acting and entertainment and
<v Speaker 4>it had nothing to do with clothing or anything like that.
<v Speaker 1>You've legally changed your name to Gigi.
<v Speaker 4>Door and in the process of it, yes.
<v Speaker 1>And what made you decide to make that permanent and official?
<v Speaker 4>Because it's my identity now? It truly is. With social
<v Speaker 4>media being verified on all these sites and everything, it's
<v Speaker 4>become a little more difficult to have two names. I
<v Speaker 4>kind of feel like it's just me at this point,
<v Speaker 4>like not just on set anymore, Like people are at
<v Speaker 4>home and everything, like my friends, everybody knows me as
<v Speaker 4>GG now, So yeah, I think it just makes sense.
<v Speaker 1>You know, you're not the first person to do that.
<v Speaker 2>Tera Patrick also legally changed her name, did she Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>her name was not originally Taro Patrick, but it is.
<v Speaker 4>Now because like even on Instagram, for me to like
<v Speaker 4>change anything, you have to show your real ID and
<v Speaker 4>all of that. And that's why so many performers. I mean,
<v Speaker 4>my legal name's out there, but I just feel like
<v Speaker 4>it's a little bit more protection.
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, you don't necessarily want to advertise it, right
<v Speaker 2>because unfortunately.
<v Speaker 1>We do have stalkers, Yes we do. Do you have
<v Speaker 1>people that.
<v Speaker 4>Are ill intended?
<v Speaker 1>Yes, exactly exactly. In fact, you're currently dealing with a
<v Speaker 1>stalker who hacked your personal and financial information. Yes. How
<v Speaker 1>did you find that out? And how did you manage it?
<v Speaker 4>Well? I'm still managing it. Most stressful couple of weeks
<v Speaker 4>of my life. I woke up Friday Friday morning and
<v Speaker 4>I was looking at my emails and I had all
<v Speaker 4>of these emails at like one am, two am of
<v Speaker 4>like username accessed, username, password changed, and it was like
<v Speaker 4>all of my credit cards, all of my bank accounts.
<v Speaker 4>So I asked my significant other. I was like, you know,
<v Speaker 4>he was like I was asleep, Like no, So I
<v Speaker 4>jumped on and I couldn't access anything, like everything was
<v Speaker 4>locked down. So I got on the phone and I
<v Speaker 4>had to verify myself four separate times in one phone
<v Speaker 4>call to change everything back to my name, my address,
<v Speaker 4>my email, my phone number because they hacker I changed everything.
<v Speaker 4>So as I'm on the phone with the credit card
<v Speaker 4>companies changing everything back to my information, and they're not
<v Speaker 4>only changing it back because they have online access, but
<v Speaker 4>they're calling me and sending me text messages saying, like
<v Speaker 4>the one text message I got said Stephanie akagg d
<v Speaker 4>or we're not here to hurt you, We're here to
<v Speaker 4>help you. So it's absolutely directed, like this was not
<v Speaker 4>just a coincidence, like they knew, they know, they know
<v Speaker 4>what's happening, right, like they know. So I got before
<v Speaker 4>I came here, I got a credit card alert that
<v Speaker 4>they're trying to use it again. So I don't know
<v Speaker 4>how else to lot. I mean, I've locked my credit down.
<v Speaker 4>I have locked everything down. I I don't know in
<v Speaker 4>the credit card company has been no help, like no help.
<v Speaker 4>After I changed everything we passed or protected the account everything,
<v Speaker 4>they called up and pretended to be me and they
<v Speaker 4>just changed everything back. And the credit card company told
<v Speaker 4>me this.
<v Speaker 1>I was like, you have two factor of indication on
<v Speaker 1>everything I.
<v Speaker 4>Do, but they change the phone number on the on
<v Speaker 4>the because they have online access, they were changing the
<v Speaker 4>phone number to their phone number, so they were getting
<v Speaker 4>the two factor authentication. Oh my god. So I've cried,
<v Speaker 4>I've screamed, I've had to laugh because sometimes you just
<v Speaker 4>have nothing else for us to do, but like just
<v Speaker 4>find some silver lining in it and like all of
<v Speaker 4>this over. Like the credit card is strictly the one
<v Speaker 4>that I used to travel, and it's usually I only
<v Speaker 4>use it to get like a rental car or like,
<v Speaker 4>it's not a high dollar credit card. So I'm like,
<v Speaker 4>where are you going with this? But then they opened
<v Speaker 4>a bank account, they opened four other credit cards, so yeah,
<v Speaker 4>so now I'm in the process of fighting all of
<v Speaker 4>that with the credit bureaus so that that it doesn't
<v Speaker 4>show up on my credit reports. So yeah, it's been.
<v Speaker 1>You hear stories like this, and they're so scary.
<v Speaker 4>So scary, so scary. I thought maybe it was just
<v Speaker 4>a credit card, but then once I found they were
<v Speaker 4>trying to open cell phones and all this my aim
<v Speaker 4>and I'm like, oh god, so it's been it's been
<v Speaker 4>a roller coaster.
<v Speaker 2>Can you use get one of those like credit monitoring companies?
<v Speaker 4>I did. I got it, but apparently they had tried
<v Speaker 4>to open so much that they only work after you
<v Speaker 4>purchase it, so they can't go backwards and protect you
<v Speaker 4>from stuff. So my recommendation is if you're worried about it,
<v Speaker 4>just go get it, Just pay the subscription, lock everything down,
<v Speaker 4>like I'm I'm locking all of my kids stuff down,
<v Speaker 4>Like wow, I don't want any open anywhere.
<v Speaker 2>Was it like LifeLock or something I bought LifeLock, Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>that's what I'm.
<v Speaker 1>They just sponsored my podcast. This is a.
<v Speaker 4>Great a great plug LifeLock. Thank you. Yes. So they
<v Speaker 4>said if anything happens moving forward that I'm insured on it.
<v Speaker 4>But everything appears that they had done prior to me
<v Speaker 4>opening it. So and I opened. All this happened on Friday.
<v Speaker 4>I got LifeLock on Saturday, and they had done that
<v Speaker 4>much damage in twenty four and today's third day.
<v Speaker 1>Today, it's been less than a week.
<v Speaker 4>It's been less than a week.
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's been less than a week.
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, it's insane. Yeah, let's just talk about
<v Speaker 1>all the scary shit. We'll get to porn. At some point.
<v Speaker 2>Your significant other was drugged in an industry event, and
<v Speaker 2>it sounds like the drug was the drink was actually
<v Speaker 2>meant for you.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, So what happened there?
<v Speaker 4>So we'd gotten a drink, We had gotten drinks, and
<v Speaker 4>I was pulled away for photos and so I hate
<v Speaker 4>having an alcoholic beverage in my hand in photographs, especially
<v Speaker 4>professional ones. So he took my drink and was speaking
<v Speaker 4>with somebody and I came back and he was gone,
<v Speaker 4>and so I'm calling him and he's not answering, and
<v Speaker 4>so he was like, I'm outside, and I'm like, so
<v Speaker 4>I go. There was like an outside patio. I go
<v Speaker 4>out there and he's not out there, and I'm like,
<v Speaker 4>where are So I call him again, And we had
<v Speaker 4>a credit card tab open at the bar, so I
<v Speaker 4>walked up, I closed that out and I call him again.
<v Speaker 4>He's like, I'm outside. So I walked out outside. So
<v Speaker 4>what happened, is I guess the drink had hit him
<v Speaker 4>and or the drug had hit him, and he fell asleep,
<v Speaker 4>like like sitting up, And so he was escorted out,
<v Speaker 4>and so he was sitting outside waiting, and so I
<v Speaker 4>got out there and he like, I've seen I've seen
<v Speaker 4>him drunk, I've seen him tired. I've seen him drunk
<v Speaker 4>and tired, but I've never seen him like this before
<v Speaker 4>in my entire life. I had to literally walk barefoot,
<v Speaker 4>I take my heels off, and I had to like
<v Speaker 4>fireman like carry him all the way back to our hotel,
<v Speaker 4>and he like got sick and all of this. So
<v Speaker 4>we're pretty sure that was the case. Yeah, Now fast forward.
<v Speaker 4>I was at an event recently whom I thought was
<v Speaker 4>the culprit of like I had narrowed it down. I
<v Speaker 4>had spoken to a friend and after the event we
<v Speaker 4>were at and she was like I had told her
<v Speaker 4>that whole story. I remember how it came up. And
<v Speaker 4>she's like, oh my god, She's like, I saw that
<v Speaker 4>person biting something like a pill and putting it in
<v Speaker 4>someone's drink last night when we were out. It was
<v Speaker 4>almost like validation right that. It was like, Okay, I'm
<v Speaker 4>not crazy like this, what this actually did happen? And
<v Speaker 4>I think either they tried to drug both drinks or
<v Speaker 4>tried to drug my drink and then separate, like I
<v Speaker 4>think that's why maybe I was pulled away for photos
<v Speaker 4>or something to separate us. And but he must have
<v Speaker 4>just mixed up the drinks in the hands or whatever.
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, it was. It was a actually a very humbling,
<v Speaker 4>very humbling.
<v Speaker 2>So are you now thinking like you almost don't want
<v Speaker 2>to take a drink.
<v Speaker 4>I don't drink at industry events. I don't if it
<v Speaker 4>doesn't come with bottled water with a cap and I
<v Speaker 4>have it in my hand the entire time, then I'll
<v Speaker 4>go dry the entire I'm sober now anyway, But I yeah,
<v Speaker 4>I'm just drinking bottled water at events because it's just
<v Speaker 4>it's not worth it.
<v Speaker 1>I had it, you know. It's so funny.
<v Speaker 2>A really long time ago, I had a weird situation
<v Speaker 2>with a model who came on set and we were
<v Speaker 2>doing a live show. This is like twenty years ago,
<v Speaker 2>and my assistant at the time was working with me,
<v Speaker 2>and I still work with him on stuff, and I've
<v Speaker 2>known him forever and he's a very trustworthy person and
<v Speaker 2>she suddenly in the middle of the show got like wasted,
<v Speaker 2>like something happened like a fish, and I was like,
<v Speaker 2>what the hell, and so we stopped the show, and
<v Speaker 2>her boyfriend accused me, well not me, because he knew
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't do it, but he accused my assistant of
<v Speaker 2>drugging her. And I was like, there's no way my
<v Speaker 2>assistant would ever do that. And I still stand by
<v Speaker 2>that because, like I said, like, he's still in the industry.
<v Speaker 2>You've probably worked with him on some sets. He's like,
<v Speaker 2>he's not that person, but ever, and I think, honestly,
<v Speaker 2>what happened was she'd a drug problem or a drinking problem,
<v Speaker 2>because I know that when I was drinking, this would
<v Speaker 2>happen to me. I'd be sneaking drinks on the side
<v Speaker 2>and then I would take too much and it would
<v Speaker 2>hit me in the middle and I'd black out in
<v Speaker 2>the middle of something and suddenly I would.
<v Speaker 4>Change so eating or yah.
<v Speaker 1>I know that, like that's happened to me, and probably
<v Speaker 1>she wouldn't admit.
<v Speaker 2>To her boyfriend that she had this problem, and so
<v Speaker 2>he automatically like accused us, like whatever anyways.
<v Speaker 4>And what would be the purpose of during that drugging,
<v Speaker 4>like you know, it's not there would be no outcome
<v Speaker 4>of that. You know, why would wondering a lot? But
<v Speaker 4>that's what, Yeah, that's that's my point. Like that doesn't
<v Speaker 4>make there's like.
<v Speaker 2>A sinister person who wanted to try to, like you know,
<v Speaker 2>take advantage of somebody, but like I'm not. And also
<v Speaker 2>it was her and another girl. It was just like
<v Speaker 2>anyways whatever. But honestly, ever since then, I now like
<v Speaker 2>when I'm on set, I don't open if somebody wants
<v Speaker 2>to drink, I don't open it. I open it in
<v Speaker 2>front of them, like I don't know if you noticed
<v Speaker 2>what with your bottle of water And this is just
<v Speaker 2>automatic now. I brought it over to you, sealed and
<v Speaker 2>like let you pour it. Like I just it's just
<v Speaker 2>like an automatic thing now because if something crazy ever
<v Speaker 2>does happen, like you can't get it.
<v Speaker 4>But you know, we're in We're in a world. Brother,
<v Speaker 4>that's got to be the key. Like it's it's it's
<v Speaker 4>sad and I wish it was different, but unfortunately it's not.
<v Speaker 4>And you have to protect yourself because at the end
<v Speaker 4>of the day, nobody else will do it for you.
<v Speaker 2>I'm of the mind of like remove all possibilities on
<v Speaker 2>where you could potentially be put in a compromising position.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, you have to eliminate those.
<v Speaker 4>And this is work. So why am I drinking at work?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?
<v Speaker 4>Like so that's how I look at it now. It's
<v Speaker 4>like if I'm going to an industry event or something
<v Speaker 4>like that, Like it's it's this is my job. You
<v Speaker 4>wouldn't like if you were a doctor, you wouldn't drink
<v Speaker 4>before you went into surgery, right, So hope, I mean
<v Speaker 4>we all know probably that, but but that's my point is, like,
<v Speaker 4>this is my job.
<v Speaker 5>So I want to be of sound mind. Yeah, absolutely
<v Speaker 5>at all times. So Okay, So you went to King
<v Speaker 5>Kun for an ayahuasca retreat. Yes, So for people don't
<v Speaker 5>who don't know what that experience is, like, can you explain,
<v Speaker 5>like what ayahuasca is, what happens, and why you sought
<v Speaker 5>it out.
<v Speaker 4>We'll start with why I sought it out. So I
<v Speaker 4>sought it out because of past traumas. I've had more
<v Speaker 4>therapists than I think I have underwear. So my significant
<v Speaker 4>other knew I was struggling with a couple of like
<v Speaker 4>heavy traumas, and no matter the talk therapy I was doing,
<v Speaker 4>and everything else. I was just like I was stuck.
<v Speaker 4>I felt like I was stuck. And so he did
<v Speaker 4>some research and found that ayahuasca is equivalent to ten
<v Speaker 4>years of talk therapy.
<v Speaker 1>So about efficiency. We melts were all about it.
<v Speaker 4>Fre we are I'm like, give me, give me three
<v Speaker 4>days instead of ten years. I am all about it.
<v Speaker 4>So I did some research and last year I was
<v Speaker 4>ready after feeling like I was repeating the same cycles
<v Speaker 4>over and over and over again and feeling like I
<v Speaker 4>was just treading water. So I found this place in
<v Speaker 4>Cancun and it was called the Hacienda, and absolutely like
<v Speaker 4>I can't wait to go back. It was in Cancuon,
<v Speaker 4>but not the Cancuon that like everyone thinks. It's not
<v Speaker 4>resort Cancuon. It's like Mexico, Mexico.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>There was monkeys swinging between the trees and hammocks out
<v Speaker 4>in the patio, and there was this big temple outdoors
<v Speaker 4>that we got to sit in and meditate like in between,
<v Speaker 4>and that's where a lot of the ceremonies were held.
<v Speaker 4>So ayahuasca is how do I describe it? Uh, it's
<v Speaker 4>a trip, right, like it's a And so going back
<v Speaker 4>a little bit. They sent us a list of requirements,
<v Speaker 4>so you have to be off of certain medications prior.
<v Speaker 4>So I got off of all my antiata pressants, all
<v Speaker 4>my medication about three weeks prior. You couldn't eat certain
<v Speaker 4>things a certain time because the way it metabolizes in
<v Speaker 4>your body, and because you throw up a lot.
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, people like, don't they people throw
<v Speaker 2>up a lot?
<v Speaker 4>And I threw up. We were I didn't have anybody. No,
<v Speaker 4>I mean we had a very small group nobody, but yes,
<v Speaker 4>I've heard people have shipped themselves. I threw up. We
<v Speaker 4>were there five days. I threw up every day. I've
<v Speaker 4>never been so happy. I kind of equate. I kind
<v Speaker 4>of equate iauasca to this. After you got a child,
<v Speaker 4>Like when you're pregnant, you're like, okay, I'm pregnant. You
<v Speaker 4>go through childbirth, it's awful, it's terrible. You're like, oh
<v Speaker 4>my god, why did I do this? Then you hold
<v Speaker 4>this sweet little baby and in like ten minutes, you
<v Speaker 4>forget about everything that you just did and you're like, okay,
<v Speaker 4>I could do this again. And then you're pregnant before
<v Speaker 4>you know it. So that that's my like, that's my
<v Speaker 4>correlation to ayahuasca, because I was like, this is hell
<v Speaker 4>while I'm doing it, I don't know. So we got there,
<v Speaker 4>we did a fast, We did like our last like
<v Speaker 4>real meal with like fish and vegetables and stuff, and
<v Speaker 4>then we did cambo the first morning, which is frog poison.
<v Speaker 4>So they did little I kind of like say it
<v Speaker 4>like cigarette burns. They did it in my lower back.
<v Speaker 4>The two other gentlemen there, they did their on their
<v Speaker 4>shoulder and they burn it like a superficial burn, and
<v Speaker 4>then they put the frog poison into those burns. So
<v Speaker 4>all of a sudden, you get this like warmth that
<v Speaker 4>comes over you and you just start swing up. I'm
<v Speaker 4>pretty sure I threw up the devil because I just yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 4>and then I looked like hitch because my lips swelled.
<v Speaker 4>Not a pretty site. There were no cameras anywhere. I
<v Speaker 4>would never take cameras there anyway.
<v Speaker 1>I feel like they probably have like a no cell
<v Speaker 1>phone policy.
<v Speaker 4>They have Wi Fi for emergencies, but they recommend because
<v Speaker 4>of the process, like no like that you're snapchatting.
<v Speaker 1>Nobody's snapchat.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah No, nobody's tiktoking while we're there, Like I would
<v Speaker 4>listen to it. To like meditate and stuff. I would
<v Speaker 4>listen to like my iTunes and stuff. But other than that,
<v Speaker 4>it was actually a really nice purge from my phone.
<v Speaker 4>So the cambo like after the swelling and everything came down.
<v Speaker 4>That was the first day. Then the second day.
<v Speaker 1>Did you trip it all the first day or just
<v Speaker 1>throw it?
<v Speaker 4>Well, just threw up, But they did what was called
<v Speaker 4>uh repe It's like a tobacco and they put it
<v Speaker 4>in this long tobacco pipe and they put it in
<v Speaker 4>your nostrils and then they blow it and then like
<v Speaker 4>the first time you do it, you're like, oh my god,
<v Speaker 4>this is so So you get like tobacco leaf like
<v Speaker 4>in your nose and it burns a little bit. You're
<v Speaker 4>I know, wait it gets better.
<v Speaker 1>There's more.
<v Speaker 4>There's three more days of throwing up. So the repe
<v Speaker 4>actually it cleans, It clears your penal gland and helps
<v Speaker 4>like re regenerate. Uh you're vegas nerve. So the repe
<v Speaker 4>was kind of like a like a high, but not really.
<v Speaker 4>It was kind of like a like a xanax feeling
<v Speaker 4>kind of like just a chilly. So then after that
<v Speaker 4>the ridge did the repee. Then we did it was
<v Speaker 4>like a hot igloo it's really what it was, right,
<v Speaker 4>we did the repe kind of there's a name for it.
<v Speaker 4>I'm blanking on it right now, it'll come to me.
<v Speaker 4>But you get in and it's a circle and a
<v Speaker 4>hole in the ground and there's like there was like
<v Speaker 4>eight of us in it, and every everyone you just right,
<v Speaker 4>that's right, exactly exactly. No, you just sweat, and you
<v Speaker 4>just sweat. It's like the hottest suna you've ever been
<v Speaker 4>in your life. And when you think like you can't
<v Speaker 4>sweat anymore, you like sweat more. So we did that,
<v Speaker 4>and then there was uh so there was camp both
<v Speaker 4>and there was the repae. Then there was the ayahuasca.
<v Speaker 4>So that was we purged all day or we fasted
<v Speaker 4>all day. For the evening, we took ayahuasca around six pm. No,
<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry, we started getting ready for about six pm.
<v Speaker 4>Ten pm. We took the ayahuasca. But because of my
<v Speaker 4>reaction to the cambo, the shaman gave me a half
<v Speaker 4>a dose of what he gave the other two people.
<v Speaker 4>And I was like sitting there and all of a sudden,
<v Speaker 4>like everyone else is like laying down and I can
<v Speaker 4>see like them starting to like you know, fly high,
<v Speaker 4>right and I'm like, what is not? Like, what's not
<v Speaker 4>it's not working? I'm like, maybe I need more. All
<v Speaker 4>of a sudden, I get sick and then it it
<v Speaker 4>like takes me my hand, like people don't believe you
<v Speaker 4>when you say it, but my hand all of a
<v Speaker 4>sudden like comes up and my fingers go like this,
<v Speaker 4>and my hand just takes itself and it goes like this,
<v Speaker 4>and Holly, I was off like it was like a
<v Speaker 4>magic Harper ride, unlike anything I've ever experienced. I was
<v Speaker 4>inside my mom's womb. I remember like the fluid and
<v Speaker 4>the water and like seeing my hands and then seeing
<v Speaker 4>like the birth. I remember being in my playpen when
<v Speaker 4>I was probably like a year or two, reaching up
<v Speaker 4>for my mom, and my mom was very young when
<v Speaker 4>she had me and her just walking by, and I
<v Speaker 4>remember like crying out for her and like putting my
<v Speaker 4>hands up and her walking by.
<v Speaker 1>And then.
<v Speaker 4>I was a belly dancer in Egypt. In a past life,
<v Speaker 4>I had a piece of paper because I wanted to
<v Speaker 4>make sure that when I came to I could write
<v Speaker 4>all these down so that I could remember them, so
<v Speaker 4>I didn't forget anything. So I must have realized remembered
<v Speaker 4>so my I'm right handed, my left hand takes this
<v Speaker 4>pen and starts writing in all this other language on
<v Speaker 4>this paper. And I woke up the next day and
<v Speaker 4>it was like a signature. It was the same signature
<v Speaker 4>or autograph over and over and over and over again.
<v Speaker 4>The craziest was the alien though. So I'm looking into
<v Speaker 4>the we're in the middle of like the forest or jungle,
<v Speaker 4>and I see this little red light like in a distance,
<v Speaker 4>and there's no lights, like we barely had electricity there.
<v Speaker 4>So my hand again takes me and we are off.
<v Speaker 4>Like so I go to the red light and I
<v Speaker 4>was on an alien ship and I was giving birth
<v Speaker 4>and I remember being on a cold metal table and girl, ah, yeah,
<v Speaker 4>it was absolutely intense, intense. But through all of that,
<v Speaker 4>through like the me and the playpat and all of that,
<v Speaker 4>it brought me so much peace and healing. Like I
<v Speaker 4>saw that my mom was really young, and like I've
<v Speaker 4>forgiven her for a lot of the things that I
<v Speaker 4>had to work through, and it just shows me that
<v Speaker 4>like this isn't it, Like they We're just here now,
<v Speaker 4>right and we can come back in any time and
<v Speaker 4>any form, in any shape and just enjoy the ride
<v Speaker 4>while you're here, embrace it.
<v Speaker 2>That's got to be so comforting because I know that,
<v Speaker 2>like the one, I'm not religious at all, and like
<v Speaker 2>I was raised atheist. Actually my dad okay, it was
<v Speaker 2>super anti God. And when he died that was really
<v Speaker 2>hard for me because I was like, well, he's just gone, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>and that's it, like that, like he just poofed, non existent.
<v Speaker 2>And that was the first time that I felt like
<v Speaker 2>jealous of people who had like a kind of faith
<v Speaker 2>and who believed in like heaven and believed in like
<v Speaker 2>reuniting with their loved ones. Yes, that must be like
<v Speaker 2>a really comforting thought to have, and that father's just gone, yeah, whatever.
<v Speaker 4>It was very comforting. So the other person I went with,
<v Speaker 4>he saw his past cousin and she was very young
<v Speaker 4>when she passed, and he was asking her questions and
<v Speaker 4>other people like his grandparents she had said had gone
<v Speaker 4>down and gotten you know, new new bodies or however
<v Speaker 4>you want to say it. So it was very so
<v Speaker 4>the other thing that I saw, which is really cool
<v Speaker 4>because we've always believed. So the person I'm with, we
<v Speaker 4>had a vision. We were we both did uh marijuana
<v Speaker 4>in Vegas several years ago, and we both had a
<v Speaker 4>vision of like that we had known each other in
<v Speaker 4>a past life, and so we both took our phones
<v Speaker 4>and like wrote down in our phones like what we
<v Speaker 4>each saw like during that and it was identical. It
<v Speaker 4>was identical. But I saw it during my Ayawaska trip
<v Speaker 4>and so did he.
<v Speaker 1>So we've you guys been together.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, so we we definitely have met in a
<v Speaker 4>past life. And so that's calming too, that like I
<v Speaker 4>have a possibility of meeting people that I truly connect with, Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>of meeting them and finding them again. So that's really incredible.
<v Speaker 4>It's really incredible, I have to say.
<v Speaker 1>So I had I don't know if you know who
<v Speaker 1>Vanessa Verrakruz is.
<v Speaker 4>The name sounds familiar.
<v Speaker 1>She did now does a lot of work for ALU.
<v Speaker 2>She does like like a talent liaison and stuff like that.
<v Speaker 2>But anyways, she actually came on the podcast and if
<v Speaker 2>you haven't seen the episode, you should go back and
<v Speaker 2>watch it. It's one of the most powerful episodes I've
<v Speaker 2>ever done. And she did ayahuasca and she had this,
<v Speaker 2>you know, horrible tragedy. Basically when she was young, her
<v Speaker 2>father shot her mother in front of her when she
<v Speaker 2>was a kid and then killed himself. And she did
<v Speaker 2>ayahuasca and because obviously that's an incredibly traumatic experience that
<v Speaker 2>you would carry with you forever, right, And she did
<v Speaker 2>ayahuasca and she said that she like saw her dad
<v Speaker 2>again and like saw her mom again, and it enabled
<v Speaker 2>her to forgive her father. Yeah, like her mother like
<v Speaker 2>told her to forgive her father and enabled her to
<v Speaker 2>like move on.
<v Speaker 1>And I remember she was just telling me. I was
<v Speaker 1>like crying.
<v Speaker 2>I was just like, I mean, so, it's something that
<v Speaker 2>I've always like thought about, just because I've heard some
<v Speaker 2>incredible experiences from people who've done it.
<v Speaker 1>But I don't.
<v Speaker 2>I'm sober and I have like I'll have eight years
<v Speaker 2>of sobriety in like a couple of months.
<v Speaker 4>Congratulations, thank you.
<v Speaker 1>So I'm like terrified of taking any kind of.
<v Speaker 2>Mind altering drug, just like I'm afraid that I'll be like, oh,
<v Speaker 2>I forget how fun this was, and then it'll just
<v Speaker 2>like trigger me. But I also, like, honestly, admittedly, I
<v Speaker 2>don't really have like a lot of trauma that I
<v Speaker 2>have to deal with. I'm so fortunate in that way,
<v Speaker 2>So I feel like it's not something that like I
<v Speaker 2>absolutely need to do.
<v Speaker 1>But like we all have issues.
<v Speaker 4>Right absolutely, it might give you answers, yeah, you know,
<v Speaker 4>and it may not heal maybe not healing or like
<v Speaker 4>traumatic reasons for you, but it might give you answers
<v Speaker 4>or hope or direction on which you know, maybe like it.
<v Speaker 4>Because after ayahuasca, like after we came to I slept
<v Speaker 4>like most of the next day because it was so
<v Speaker 4>like it was six hours, six seven hours that we
<v Speaker 4>were I call it like my journey, right that we
<v Speaker 4>were gone, and then so we kind of like chilled
<v Speaker 4>the next day and then the last day we did DMT.
<v Speaker 4>And now I'm sober too. So I know it kind
<v Speaker 4>of sounds hypocritical, like you're doing this but and you're sober,
<v Speaker 4>But it feel like I would do it again, even sober,
<v Speaker 4>just because it has done so much for my soul
<v Speaker 4>and for me as a human, Like I just I
<v Speaker 4>have more empathy for people I see. I see it
<v Speaker 4>fake smiles, and I like, I get it because I
<v Speaker 4>understand that we're all hiding. We're all like hiding behind
<v Speaker 4>these masks that we put up and everybody's I said
<v Speaker 4>the other day, where we all live in the prisons
<v Speaker 4>that we'd create, right like, and so it's really helped
<v Speaker 4>free me of that and just saying like and be
<v Speaker 4>firm and who I am, and saying like, Okay, the
<v Speaker 4>people that want to be in my life are going
<v Speaker 4>to be here, and the people who don't maybe they
<v Speaker 4>have a purpose for a short period of time or
<v Speaker 4>what they're here for is important, but they may be
<v Speaker 4>here for a short period of time. You know, they
<v Speaker 4>might be a chapter in my book and maybe not
<v Speaker 4>the whole book. Right, And that's what really brought me
<v Speaker 4>so much, just peace and comforting because I've had massive
<v Speaker 4>abandonment issues, massive abandoned issues, and I thought, you know,
<v Speaker 4>I had to either cling to people or keep them
<v Speaker 4>at arm's length because I didn't, like I wanted to
<v Speaker 4>leave first, right like I didn't want anybody to hurt me.
<v Speaker 4>So this has given me that ability to truly love
<v Speaker 4>from like my visceral core.
<v Speaker 2>I mean that makes sense because you know, I mean,
<v Speaker 2>look like we all when we do like drugs and
<v Speaker 2>alcohol and like the recreational sense, and especially once become
<v Speaker 2>we become like dependent on it, become like addicts, it's
<v Speaker 2>because we're trying to.
<v Speaker 1>Escape our reality.
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, like we don't want to be in the present
<v Speaker 2>when it want to be in our body. We don't
<v Speaker 2>want to like face the things that we want to forget,
<v Speaker 2>And it sounds like the experience that you had.
<v Speaker 1>Is the opposite.
<v Speaker 4>Correct.
<v Speaker 2>It's literally like you're facing all of these things that
<v Speaker 2>you've buried and you're kind of letting the damn loose,
<v Speaker 2>Like you're breaking down all those walls that we have
<v Speaker 2>built up over all the years to keep like things,
<v Speaker 2>you know, compartmentalize in our minds so that we can
<v Speaker 2>basically like deal with every day and not face the
<v Speaker 2>things that hurt us so much.
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, because I would disassociate a lot. Yeah, and I
<v Speaker 4>probably still do to an extent, just as like a
<v Speaker 4>coping mechanism, but it's definitely less. I'm definitely more present
<v Speaker 4>in all of my in my daily life.
<v Speaker 2>The thing is, is what I try to always remind
<v Speaker 2>myself is that you know, life is not a movie
<v Speaker 2>where at the end, you you know, reach your apex
<v Speaker 2>and you reach some kind of realization and then like
<v Speaker 2>everything's perfect from there on out and you are never,
<v Speaker 2>you know, haunted by these issues.
<v Speaker 1>You dealt with in the movie. Like it's just like
<v Speaker 1>there's never like.
<v Speaker 2>A happy ending where it's just like that part of
<v Speaker 2>my life is over and now everything's fine, Like that,
<v Speaker 2>doesn't it exist that way?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?
<v Speaker 4>And I actually even just on the other day, I
<v Speaker 4>was on my way here, I had like a memory
<v Speaker 4>come up that I had definitely like repressed and it
<v Speaker 4>came through me. I thought about it, like I really
<v Speaker 4>like processed it and then I let it go, and
<v Speaker 4>that this process has definitely allowed me to learn how
<v Speaker 4>to do that more effectively anyway.
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so funny.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I love these kinds of interviews because I'm
<v Speaker 2>all about like getting to know the person, the fact
<v Speaker 2>that you sometimes the fact that, like we work in
<v Speaker 2>the adult industry is adjacent to what we do.
<v Speaker 1>With Like all of my questions are not about porn,
<v Speaker 1>sorry guys. They're like they're about like your you to
<v Speaker 1>bribe your way out of Egypt?
<v Speaker 4>Yes, oh my god. And it wasn't in this life.
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't when you were a belly answer, and it.
<v Speaker 4>Was in this life. So we did like a europe tour,
<v Speaker 4>not the kind of tour, but like like we did Paris, London, Budapest, Prague, Egypt,
<v Speaker 4>and Egypt was amazing a little scary. But as we
<v Speaker 4>were leaving Egypt, well all around Egypt. Like we had
<v Speaker 4>a tour guide and everywhere we went he was like
<v Speaker 4>paying people.
<v Speaker 2>Like while we got there, I was gonna say, like
<v Speaker 2>I've heard that if you visit Egypt you need somebody
<v Speaker 2>who's there to like you can't just.
<v Speaker 4>Like if I did do it again, I'd probably go
<v Speaker 4>through a cruise because then there's like guides and stuff.
<v Speaker 4>We just woon it, like we just landed, just the
<v Speaker 4>two of us. You know, I was blonde at the time,
<v Speaker 4>so I covered everything. I wore sunglasses, I wore long pants,
<v Speaker 4>long shirt, My ankles showed in one pair and like
<v Speaker 4>I got dirty looks for that. So it was very crazy.
<v Speaker 4>The interesting thing is there are no traffic lights, there
<v Speaker 4>are no signals, there's nothing, so everybody just honks all
<v Speaker 4>the time. So twenty four hours a day, seven days
<v Speaker 4>of week in Egypt, it's my map honking. Wow, there
<v Speaker 4>isn't That's the only sound you hear. Like I think
<v Speaker 4>we were like seventeen stories in our hotel and you
<v Speaker 4>could still hear the honking all day and all night.
<v Speaker 4>It was absolutely crazy. So our tour guide was tipping everybody,
<v Speaker 4>and we just kind of like we're like okay, like
<v Speaker 4>maybe that's their protocol. So we're leaving, we're at the
<v Speaker 4>airport and they separate the men and the females. So
<v Speaker 4>there's a female line for security and a male line.
<v Speaker 4>And I had everything in my purse, like our passports
<v Speaker 4>and everything, and I had all the cash. So if
<v Speaker 4>you ever go to Egypt, take a lot of singles,
<v Speaker 4>a lot of singles because they love like, it's great
<v Speaker 4>money for them, even a dollar bill there. So I
<v Speaker 4>had all the money. So he's in that line. I'm
<v Speaker 4>in this line and they take our passports to the
<v Speaker 4>other side and we're just standing there and the guy's
<v Speaker 4>like I'm looking and I'm like, oh, okay, and he's like,
<v Speaker 4>we're passports and I was like oh. So I reached
<v Speaker 4>my person at this point, I had like only larger dollars,
<v Speaker 4>so I pulled out I think I could ten and
<v Speaker 4>I handed it to him and he smacks my hand
<v Speaker 4>and he's like, no, not you you. So I had
<v Speaker 4>to hand the ten dollars bill to the man and
<v Speaker 4>have him hand it because I wasn't allowed to hand
<v Speaker 4>it to him. But finally right, so I so after
<v Speaker 4>the money was processed, they handed us that and they
<v Speaker 4>did like the most extensive pat down search on the females.
<v Speaker 4>And then we were girls there from probably United States
<v Speaker 4>that had like booty shorts on and mid drifts, and
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, that is insane to me. Like, I'm a
<v Speaker 4>huge believer in where you go. You need to respect
<v Speaker 4>the culture, right, Like, I'm not one of those people
<v Speaker 4>that like expects everybody to speak English everywhere I go, right, Like,
<v Speaker 4>I cannot speak many other languages or any other languages
<v Speaker 4>very well, but I will learn key phrases wherever I
<v Speaker 4>am going because I feel like it's just appropriate and
<v Speaker 4>if they happened to speak English, we're better for it.
<v Speaker 4>But so these girls were like walking around in these
<v Speaker 4>shorts and stuff, and I'm just like you are, like
<v Speaker 4>you were just broadcasting that you're sticking out like a
<v Speaker 4>sore thumb. So yeah, so yeah, I had to pay
<v Speaker 4>to get my passport back.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'll keep that in mind.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, my god, it's wild, crazy, it was wild. You
<v Speaker 2>also visited a suspected UFO crash site Arizona with a
<v Speaker 2>metal detector. Yes, So are you a believer in aliens?
<v Speaker 2>I mean yes, are you? Were you before Ajuasca?
<v Speaker 4>So I believed that there were other entities and other
<v Speaker 4>beings out there, because I think it's naive to think
<v Speaker 4>that we're all alone in this massive universe universe multi
<v Speaker 4>universe that we live in. But this definitely sold me.
<v Speaker 4>So after that, we had planned a like a road
<v Speaker 4>trip from Arizona up to to La then back down,
<v Speaker 4>and so we got to Kingmen, Arizona, and there was
<v Speaker 4>a suspected crash site there. So we got our way
<v Speaker 4>like packed these metal detectors that like broke down into
<v Speaker 4>like suitcases, and we we had like a van or something.
<v Speaker 4>We were bottoming out on this back road in the
<v Speaker 4>like middle of nowhere, and so we got out and
<v Speaker 4>there was this massive whole like indentation in the ground
<v Speaker 4>that went down probably the height of this room or
<v Speaker 4>deeper and was the size of like a football field
<v Speaker 4>and clear, and it looked like something you know, like
<v Speaker 4>when you drop something and it like or if you
<v Speaker 4>drop something in sand, you know how like it ripples out.
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely looked just like it. So we found some really
<v Speaker 4>cool rocks and like it was I could have spend
<v Speaker 4>all day there, I was like, but we also didn't
<v Speaker 4>want to get arrested. So we were on like new
<v Speaker 4>dress passing territories. So yeah, so it was kind of
<v Speaker 4>like a oh what car was that? So it was
<v Speaker 4>a little risky, but it was so much fun, so
<v Speaker 4>much fun. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>I mean I think that they didn't the Pentagon like
<v Speaker 2>come out last year basically acknowledging that like UFOs exist
<v Speaker 2>and like unidentified flying what's the new term that they
<v Speaker 2>use for it's a different acronym now, uap UAP Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>unidentified active phenomenon. Okay, right, Yeah, they're just like they're like, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>there's these things that happen, we just don't know.
<v Speaker 4>Well, I live on the East Coast and the drones
<v Speaker 4>were a very real thing last year, like in our
<v Speaker 4>in our yard at night, you could see them flying
<v Speaker 4>all around. It was it was very very real. Like
<v Speaker 4>I know that everybody's like explaining it out, but they
<v Speaker 4>were there. They were absolutely there, and they were like
<v Speaker 4>at one point there was like five surrounding where we
<v Speaker 4>were at. So it was yeah, so I definitely believe
<v Speaker 4>in that. Are they green of that nature?
<v Speaker 1>You know?
<v Speaker 4>I don't know how much of that I believe in,
<v Speaker 4>but yeah, and I think they came out. I think
<v Speaker 4>the full disclosure is coming. It's going to be interesting
<v Speaker 4>how people react to it.
<v Speaker 1>Does it scare you or does it excite you?
<v Speaker 4>I think a little bit of both. Like, it does
<v Speaker 4>scare me because why like and why is it taking
<v Speaker 4>so long for full disclosure to come out? And why
<v Speaker 4>you know, have I just read something that they're they're
<v Speaker 4>farming us for our emotions? I read some bit and
<v Speaker 4>watch some bizarre stuff. Wow, So you know, and and
<v Speaker 4>being like mindful and patient and you know, very very
<v Speaker 4>uh high on your consciousness. It's the ultimate piece, right,
<v Speaker 4>So I kind of feel safe in that that I'm
<v Speaker 4>like very peaceful and my emotions aren't all over the
<v Speaker 4>map like they used to be, because if you want
<v Speaker 4>to harness them, you're not going to harness somebody that's here, right,
<v Speaker 4>You want somebody that's more erratic. So okay, there's a
<v Speaker 4>little piece in that. So okay, I have no idea
<v Speaker 4>if it's true or not.
<v Speaker 1>So like good mental stability will protect you from the aliens.
<v Speaker 4>I'm thinking, yeah, Okay, that's that's Gigi's theory.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, we're gonna go over that all right, last question,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm gonna I'm gonna circle back to the adult
<v Speaker 2>industry just a little bit on this one. What advice
<v Speaker 2>would you give to somebody who's looking to get into
<v Speaker 2>the industry, And I'm thinking maybe more along the lines
<v Speaker 2>of somebody who's more our age as opposed to like
<v Speaker 2>a young girl looking to get because the milk is
<v Speaker 2>like a very kind of specific genre. Yeah, and I
<v Speaker 2>know that there's definitely women who, like you know, they've
<v Speaker 2>had their kids, they've had their life, like whatever, their
<v Speaker 2>circumstances have changed, had a divorce, and they're like, this
<v Speaker 2>is something I've always wanted to explore.
<v Speaker 1>Is too late for me?
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely not. It's never too late. I think we're at
<v Speaker 4>our sexual peak at this age. I'm more confident than
<v Speaker 4>I've ever been in my entire life. I know what
<v Speaker 4>I want, I know how to get what I want.
<v Speaker 4>And my advice to anybody who wants to come in
<v Speaker 4>at this age is treat it like a business, because
<v Speaker 4>it is. If you treat it like a business, you'll
<v Speaker 4>be successful. I've seen a lot of other mills recently
<v Speaker 4>say like it like a business because it is right.
<v Speaker 4>If you're in it for just the sex, then you're
<v Speaker 4>in it for the wrong reasons, or own just that
<v Speaker 4>and know that you're in it for that, so know
<v Speaker 4>the reason you're getting in, right is it? Are you
<v Speaker 4>getting in for the sex, Are you getting in for
<v Speaker 4>the business? Are you getting in for the accolades?
<v Speaker 3>Like?
<v Speaker 4>What's your goal? Like, have a really set goal, set
<v Speaker 4>a five year plan to know what you like, what
<v Speaker 4>you want to obtain and reach for in those five years,
<v Speaker 4>and then just get to work, like perfect your look.
<v Speaker 4>You know, ask people that are going to be honest
<v Speaker 4>with you. You know if you need to change your
<v Speaker 4>hair color, or if you know you need to work
<v Speaker 4>in your eyebrows, or you know if you need to
<v Speaker 4>gain weight or lose weight. I lost a feel a
<v Speaker 4>lot of time in the beginning because from my surgery
<v Speaker 4>I was so thin. I feel like as I've gotten
<v Speaker 4>thicker and heavier, my career has gotten better because I'm
<v Speaker 4>not so I'm not so thin looking. So for me,
<v Speaker 4>I wish I had put weight on earlier than I did.
<v Speaker 4>So just like and know what you want out of it,
<v Speaker 4>right like, and then set boundaries, stick with those boundaries.
<v Speaker 4>Have somebody that is out there that you can utilize
<v Speaker 4>as like a boundary keeper, as kind of like a checkmate,
<v Speaker 4>like a okay, are you really holding to this? And
<v Speaker 4>I think last would be don't give it all away
<v Speaker 4>for free right up front. Like, I've been very strategic
<v Speaker 4>in what I've shot and when I've shot it. I
<v Speaker 4>didn't shoot ANAL until I was in for three three
<v Speaker 4>and a half years sports.
<v Speaker 1>I was just gonna say, like, don't do ANAL right
<v Speaker 1>out there?
<v Speaker 4>You ANAL right away. I'm shooting my first DP tomorrow.
<v Speaker 1>Can you say that is for? Is that still a secret?
<v Speaker 3>Oh?
<v Speaker 4>I can say it. I'm shooting for Elegant Angel tomorrow
<v Speaker 4>for my first DP.
<v Speaker 1>So do you know the talent that you're working.
<v Speaker 4>With Vince Carter and Christian Clay.
<v Speaker 1>Ah, okay, I went with Christian Clay, like forever ago
<v Speaker 1>in Budapest.
<v Speaker 4>I've heard there. Well, I've worked with Vance, I haven't
<v Speaker 4>worked with Christian. It's very big, so that as I've
<v Speaker 4>been told, it's a lot of dick. It's a lot
<v Speaker 4>of dick. So I want to be very full tomorrow.
<v Speaker 4>But I've waited and like we've spoke with my agents
<v Speaker 4>and with Elegant and there's like a little bit of
<v Speaker 4>a roll out with it. So I'm not giving it
<v Speaker 4>all away like write at once, right, So make it special,
<v Speaker 4>like make it make it something that your fans want
<v Speaker 4>to work for and own it first. Like I feel
<v Speaker 4>for me, if I'm going to shoot it, it's going
<v Speaker 4>to be my only fans first, because I want the
<v Speaker 4>exclusive rights to it first. Yeah, Like I want to
<v Speaker 4>monetize it as much as possible upfront.
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, see that's something that you could not have
<v Speaker 1>done eight years ago.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, one hundred percents that one hundred percent be be
<v Speaker 4>ready to roll with the punches because in five years,
<v Speaker 4>this industry has changed so much. I can't even imagine, Like,
<v Speaker 4>like I talked to somebody earlier that was in eighteen
<v Speaker 4>years and then for twenty seven years, Like I can't
<v Speaker 4>even imagine the changes that you guys have seen. And
<v Speaker 4>my I'm just so like impressed by everybody that's been
<v Speaker 4>in this long, especially like twenty seven years, for you
<v Speaker 4>to roll with it and to recreate and reinvent and
<v Speaker 4>stay valid. It's like, I'm so impressed. It's impressive.
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna lie.
<v Speaker 2>I am like somebody who lives with the plan B. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I always have a plan B. I always have thing
<v Speaker 2>in my back pocket. I'm like, if this doesn't work out,
<v Speaker 2>I can do this. Like I am never not actively
<v Speaker 2>thinking about like what else.
<v Speaker 1>I can do?
<v Speaker 2>What other opportunities like never, yeah, and yeah, you can't
<v Speaker 2>rest on your laurels.
<v Speaker 4>No, and right now with so many of the sites
<v Speaker 4>being blocked in so many states, yeah, we really need
<v Speaker 4>to We really need to have a backup plan to
<v Speaker 4>be in to see and figure out, Okay, if you're
<v Speaker 4>about to stay in this industry, how are you going
<v Speaker 4>to make it work for you? Because you know, it's
<v Speaker 4>a it's a challenge every day that we're going to
<v Speaker 4>get completely blocked.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, yeah, I mean the good thing is is that,
<v Speaker 2>like you know, social media has really allowed you know,
<v Speaker 2>adult industry stars to gain a lot of power and
<v Speaker 2>like that traffic, it's something deleted all the time, but still,
<v Speaker 2>like you know, there's other avenues and options that can
<v Speaker 2>be open to you that don't necessarily have to do
<v Speaker 2>with sex.
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, one hundred percent. The one thing I've noticed
<v Speaker 4>though is I've had like fitness brands reach out and
<v Speaker 4>things like that. And then once because I don't advertise,
<v Speaker 4>especially on my Instagram, what I do, you know, Like
<v Speaker 4>there's not a ton of what I do on there.
<v Speaker 4>I mean there's if you look deep into like if
<v Speaker 4>you really look at the whole page. You could figure
<v Speaker 4>it out. Yeah, But like I don't advertise it, and
<v Speaker 4>so I've had other people reach out to like collab
<v Speaker 4>and stuff, and then once they find out that I'm important,
<v Speaker 4>Like I had a fitness company reach out and they're like,
<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry, like if you ever decide to leave, like
<v Speaker 4>but in order to join with us, you'd have to
<v Speaker 4>cancel everything. And I'm like, I'm just not I'm not
<v Speaker 4>prepared to do that yet. Sorry, unless you're really to
<v Speaker 4>pay me like seven figures, Yeah, I'm not.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's definitely I think an issue that we're going
<v Speaker 2>to face for a while. But I feel like, I mean,
<v Speaker 2>it's I feel like it's gonna it's changing slowly but surely.
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely. While I think it's shifting right now, but like
<v Speaker 4>I know, like are my kids they all know what
<v Speaker 4>I do, right, and so it's kind of becoming like
<v Speaker 4>a new normal, and so I think, like the judgment
<v Speaker 4>and stuff, it might shift eventually again to say, like listen,
<v Speaker 4>how did your.
<v Speaker 1>Kids handle knowing what you do for a living?
<v Speaker 4>Like how you tell them so because it's been so
<v Speaker 4>long now, they're all very different ages now than they
<v Speaker 4>were I told them in groups like the older ones
<v Speaker 4>and the younger ones. I was very honest, but agri
<v Speaker 4>propriet honest. Yeah, the oldest one was very, very very
<v Speaker 4>upset and still kind of is. My daughters have all
<v Speaker 4>been very supportive and they're like, are you happy, and
<v Speaker 4>I'm like yes, and they're like, then we're happy for you.
<v Speaker 4>And they're not making up terribly in this game.
<v Speaker 1>So but I'm very.
<v Speaker 4>Protective of them. So like if people come up to
<v Speaker 4>me and stuff, I can probably come off as a
<v Speaker 4>bitch if they're coming up to me with when I'm
<v Speaker 4>with my kids, because I'm very protective of that. And
<v Speaker 4>they're not on my social media and like I'm a
<v Speaker 4>big believer in they need to be protected to the
<v Speaker 4>to the opteenth, Like I don't put them anywhere, like
<v Speaker 4>and my personal pages are all taken down because I
<v Speaker 4>don't want anybody to know anything about them. So I
<v Speaker 4>started with the younger two where I just say like
<v Speaker 4>I just model, you know, or and then they thought
<v Speaker 4>I like bikini modeled, and then they all got phones
<v Speaker 4>and realized that it's more than the page.
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, we able to tell them before they found
<v Speaker 1>out on their own.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, I told all of them before because that
<v Speaker 4>was my biggest fear was they were going to go
<v Speaker 4>to school and somebody was going to know. And their
<v Speaker 4>dad actually did a very them the disservice by like
<v Speaker 4>texting all of their friends parents like videos and pictures
<v Speaker 4>and stuff. So he out of me first. So I
<v Speaker 4>was like, why would you want to ruin your Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>like he's he's not a great person. But my significant
<v Speaker 4>others X got got the message it like yeah, everybody,
<v Speaker 4>my family, everybody. So so I'm very grateful I had
<v Speaker 4>the wherewithal to mention it prior because I think there
<v Speaker 4>could have been like a relationship like fracture at that
<v Speaker 4>point had I not come out and said it first.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, now, I almost every parent that I've talked
<v Speaker 2>to who does sex work because has always said that
<v Speaker 2>if they don't tell their kids before the kids find
<v Speaker 2>out of their own, it's they definitely regretted it.
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, age appropriate honesty is what I tell everybody
<v Speaker 4>with little kids. They're like, how did you do it?
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, just slowly roll it, you know, like.
<v Speaker 1>You don't have to be my daughter that I make
<v Speaker 1>movies for grown ups.
<v Speaker 4>That's great.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And she's like she doesn't know what they don't
<v Speaker 2>know any I'm like, you're not a grown up, you
<v Speaker 2>can't watch them. I'm like, when you're a.
<v Speaker 1>Grown up, you can watch them. Yeah, exactly, they would
<v Speaker 1>be really you wouldn't be interested anyway.
<v Speaker 4>Would be really boring for you, exactly. I know, like
<v Speaker 4>girls know I love makeup and hair and stuff like
<v Speaker 4>that and clothes and so but they know my social
<v Speaker 4>media is and all of that. But they also know
<v Speaker 4>that it's for adults and they're not adults, so you know,
<v Speaker 4>we need to manage that. But yeah, I think just
<v Speaker 4>honesty the best.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's how my parents did it with me,
<v Speaker 1>you know, like, yeah.
<v Speaker 4>That's an interesting because you had it from the other side.
<v Speaker 2>So, so I grew up with pornographer parents and I
<v Speaker 2>always knew and and it wasn't yeah, and it was
<v Speaker 2>I mean it was like, you know, I always had
<v Speaker 2>issues with like friends, like not letting my friends find
<v Speaker 2>out or my friend's parents find out. So there was
<v Speaker 2>like a little bit of that, yeah, friction, just because
<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to like be treated differently, like how
<v Speaker 2>do you tell your because most parents like give their
<v Speaker 2>children zero sex education and like keep shame on them.
<v Speaker 1>About sex.
<v Speaker 2>So like for me to tell my friends like what
<v Speaker 2>my parents do is like totally real ify. Yeah, but overall,
<v Speaker 2>like and you know, I mean, obviously I ended up
<v Speaker 2>in the industry, but like my brother and my sister
<v Speaker 2>are both completely work in completely different industries even closely
<v Speaker 2>related to adult and they're fine.
<v Speaker 1>They don't care a great you.
<v Speaker 4>Don't you don't have any deep trauma, Like you just
<v Speaker 4>don't like you don't have any like deep rooted trauma.
<v Speaker 4>So I think, you know, if people ask me all
<v Speaker 4>the time, would you be okay with it? And I'd
<v Speaker 4>be like, yeah, I would just help guide them, you know,
<v Speaker 4>that was their if that was their choice, Like I've
<v Speaker 4>I've had to learn everything by myself, Like it's nobody's
<v Speaker 4>handed anything to me. So of course I would be
<v Speaker 4>supportive because I would not want them, especially if they
<v Speaker 4>started at a young age. I would want them to
<v Speaker 4>know the pitfalls and you know, because it can be
<v Speaker 4>a very cd as you know, as wonderful and as
<v Speaker 4>amazing as so many of my experiences have been. You know,
<v Speaker 4>you always hear those horror stories, so you want to
<v Speaker 4>kind of like steer them clear of that. Yeah, But
<v Speaker 4>I think doing what I do has and them knowing
<v Speaker 4>what I do has allowed our conversations in real time
<v Speaker 4>on real topics of sex and friendship and relationships. It's
<v Speaker 4>given them kind of like Corpeland. You know, they're very
<v Speaker 4>we're very open with each other. They ask me questions
<v Speaker 4>very openly, and like I again, I answer age appropriately.
<v Speaker 4>But I think that's great that they are comfortable enough
<v Speaker 4>to have those conversations. Yeah, and or you know, open
<v Speaker 4>with me with that. So yeah, I had I got
<v Speaker 4>a phone call a Gublem months ago and I heard
<v Speaker 4>a friend in the background be like, you're gonna call
<v Speaker 4>and tell your mom that? And she's like, I tell
<v Speaker 4>my mom everything. And I'm like, thank god. Yeah, I'm like, okay,
<v Speaker 4>I wasn't meant to hear that, but I heard it,
<v Speaker 4>and it's like a huge, huge relief, huge relief.
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