Club 520 - Andre Drummond on playing w/ LeBron, Kobe’s last All-Star Game, Anthony Davis vs. Embiid

The volume. All right, man, we're back another episode of 0:00:07.600 --> 0:00:09.840 Club five twenty podcasts. I'm the host of My name 0:00:09.880 --> 0:00:12.760 is DJ Wells Special special guests in the building. Man, 0:00:12.840 --> 0:00:14.720 to my left, we're gonna introduce my man's last But 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:16.760 to my far left, we got my dog. It should 0:00:16.760 --> 0:00:17.800 be hearing out the prailes. 0:00:18.040 --> 0:00:18.960 Are you what? Nasty? 0:00:19.120 --> 0:00:23.160 Cool and nasty? It is midnight? God damn we in 0:00:23.160 --> 0:00:23.520 the trap. 0:00:23.600 --> 0:00:26.639 Baby, we're here. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Twenty 0:00:26.640 --> 0:00:28.800 four hours. I got off days. You know, I said, 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:30.600 Dre Listen. I know you keep your feats right, but 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:33.040 have you ever seen the black forces with the white laces? 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:36.720 N I like them though, So I get some tapped in. Yeah, 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:38.680 I got you. Do get me right, Bro, I got you. 0:00:38.800 --> 0:00:40.599 I got you. Gonna do the red relations too. We're 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:41.320 gonna send them out. 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:47.120 Appreciate you. Restect your feet. Keep it classing, bro, keep 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:48.240 it keep the second. 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:50.520 Waight, Nah, I got your draft problem. 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:51.200 Whe you do that? 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:52.200 Uh? 0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:54.440 Just some ship up. Back in the day, bro, I 0:00:54.520 --> 0:00:59.480 used to hoop in the middiest like when the traps paused. Yeah, yeah, 0:00:59.760 --> 0:01:01.800 like so, and then I just put white license in 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:03.640 them and then ship niggas bit. 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:07.280 So hooping in the media forces is dangerous. I did 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:09.440 that too, though, sh she Wallace. 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:14.600 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know it's a different Yeah. 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:16.560 With the Peter Joints for show. To my right, my dog, 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:17.800 young natcho, young tig. 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:18.399 How you what. 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:21.000 I'm chilling, Bro, just lost a tough game. But shout 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:23.160 out to my boys that piking me. Oh, y'all far hard, 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:26.800 proud of y'all. But I'm chilling man excited, glad we 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:30.959 got another you know, another player in the bill legend 0:01:31.000 --> 0:01:34.000 in his own right. You know you can't stand out. 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:35.959 I'm excited for shore Man. 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:36.120 You know. 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:38.520 People always give me a slapper saying I'm excited that 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:39.960 we got a Guess I'm like, damn, I supposed to 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:40.200 be mad? 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:44.480 What happy with the show? I know it's not man 0:01:44.720 --> 0:01:45.319 for shure Man. 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:47.760 Listen, man, we got a two time All Star, thirteen 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:49.800 year pro won of the best rebounders to ever played 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:52.440 the game of basketball, the best. Yeah talk ya ship, 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:55.040 come on, man, stats, don't lie Man out there drumming 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:55.840 in the building, big dog. 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:58.120 Appreciate the slide on this, Bro, appreciate you hold on. 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:04.360 You said you're the best ever. It over Royan MM hmmm, dang, 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:05.760 I don't know about freaky rod. 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:09.840 It's crazy. That's crazy. 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:13.399 Now we are chopping up though, Let's get it, Toto 0:02:13.520 --> 0:02:16.720 it Robb is crazy forty. 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:18.360 You used to have some crazy. 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:22.160 That lines for sure, is the right points, the jokes, 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:25.160 rebound that twenty crazy, twenty rebounds and twenty points. 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:26.800 He's doing twenty rebounds and no points. 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:31.880 I respect the lineage, but is that is is Robing? 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:32.880 Who you bottle? Joe? 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:36.040 Who turned you into a rebound and nassigma bro. 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:38.640 Ship my rookie year when I came in Bro, I 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:41.160 called my high school coach and I asked him, I'm like, yo, like, 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:42.959 how do I stay? 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:44.799 I'm here, Like, how do I stay? Yeah? 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:47.400 It's like you got to find something that you are 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:48.800 good at. Master that ship. 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:51.320 So I started looking at all the stats. It's probably 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:54.840 midway through the season, like probably aroung right now. And uh, 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:58.320 I seen like guys who have most points, most rebound 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:00.680 with flocks and steals and ship and I've seen the 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:03.160 rebounds and the most was like twelve five at the time. 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:06.080 I think it's white okay. And I was averaging like 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:07.560 nine point eight as a rookie. 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:09.680 Pretty good. 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:12.720 This isn't a sexy stat I could, I could, I 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:14.760 could be the best to do it really put my 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:15.200 mind to it. 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:17.200 I'm already averaging nine by not trying. 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:28.840 Yeah, huh, I ain't worry about the numbers. 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:30.320 Right, the best thirty take the best rebout ever, We'll 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:30.760 take it. 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:33.600 But you well, but you had crazy stats in like 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:34.760 high school though too. 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:38.240 Yeah, like yeah, But to touch on the rest of 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:40.800 the topic, just ive seen the stat line I said, 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:42.240 you know, I'm gonna try to be the best of 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:42.480 it is. 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:45.840 I just mean so far as like when you was 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:48.320 like coming up too like I with that story, of course, 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:49.400 but I'm saying. 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:54.640 Like naturally bro okay, natural natural gift of just like 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:56.640 having a knack of word of balls because I found 0:03:56.680 --> 0:03:58.080 out a bat like your sophomore year. 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:01.880 I just think that I thought you started your journey then, 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:04.800 you know what I mean, And I felt like you 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:07.960 was I don't I can't remember because I was telling 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:12.000 them before, like you was known to me before Anthony Davis. 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:16.320 Anthony Davis came on a little later. I feel gross exactly. 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:18.080 So I feel like you was like one of the 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:20.640 first ones that was like on the tone call. I 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:23.320 think you know, like sophomore year was really like killing 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:23.880 the high school. 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:26.279 Yeah, that's when it started for me. Sophomore year, sophomore, 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:26.920 junior year. 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:30.080 Yeah, okay, because your stats then, so to hear you 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:31.960 say it started in the league is kind of crazy. 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:34.240 Redacted is the better word for that situation. 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:38.320 That. Yeah, reacted. Listen, shout out to that community. Bro, 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:41.159 I'm the global basket specially. Limits can't do that. 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:46.000 Yeah, that's his figure of speech. Respect me to everybody. 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:49.720 That's that's how you correct the love here man, Because 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:55.000 basketball talk, I wouldn't listen. 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:56.320 We know you with the sixty right now, we want 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:58.160 to take it back to the beginning. Man, Listen, there 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:00.000 was a talking you know what I'm saying on the podcast, 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:03.159 I see your shots and moving backward connection. Uh, this 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:04.520 is you know what I'm saying. The Fever Squad I 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:06.160 was on you know what I'm saying you seventeen. I 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:08.760 had a conversation him and Quinn Cook was going back 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:11.240 and forth about who was getting killed by Kyrie. You 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:12.680 know what I'm saying. Now, you were present with this. 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:14.320 You know what I'm saying as a as a party, 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:15.960 you have no bias in this. 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:17.320 What really took place. 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:19.960 You even remember that happening or was it just Kyrie 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:22.000 was killing everybody because we try to get to the 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:25.200 bottom of this whatever Kyrie did that more than he 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:29.840 was letting people happened. It was we got ce b, 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:33.280 It was fucking James Cole. Everybody was just it was 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:33.960 just one of them days. 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:34.200 Man. 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:37.280 You know, Kay's a special talent. And yes, sir, when 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:40.400 he gets into that mode of just like him being himself, like, 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:42.400 it's fun to watch, bro, Sometimes you just gotta stand 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:44.200 to a side and just like, damn, this nigga is 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:45.480 really good at basketball. 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:52.640 Yeah. Yeah, that's when we had fifty on me in Brooklyn, Brooklyn. 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:55.280 Did you see that though? Back then? Like damn, he's 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:55.880 gonna be a star. 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:58.000 And I played against Kaye high school too, so I 0:05:58.040 --> 0:06:00.720 got to see him then to college, you know, him 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:03.000 getting her early than obviously being in the league with 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:06.240 him at the same time, and some of the ship 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:07.680 some of the stuff he does, Bro, it's just. 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:13.120 You can't teach that. Broye unbelievable talent for sure. 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:14.920 So he got a neutral answer. 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:17.880 Yeah, he kept, he kept. Yeah. Yeah, we tried to 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:22.440 get about you say, this shot, que put it on market. 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:27.640 Quick, that's for sure. Put it on Marcus, Marcus put 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:32.680 on y'all gonna share that. Yeah, shared the torture that day. 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:35.000 But that team along that was fire. 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:39.560 Shout to Brad bial Man, Bill, Jason Randalls on our team, 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:43.440 Johnny O'Brien do Yeah, who is missing? 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:46.720 Tony Parker, Gil Kers on our team too, right, Chris 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:49.359 is on our team. Damn. Everybody almost made the league 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:51.800 on our team. It was close to is. 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:53.960 That who went to Did he go to North Carolina? 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:55.200 Damn? 0:06:55.640 --> 0:07:00.680 I remember him? Yeah, that's great, James. What's he he 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:02.880 put for the words for a little bit? Okay, yeah, 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:05.880 I was thinking about that. But y'all was loaded. 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:07.200 They had a good team. 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:07.840 Yeah. 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:10.360 Being started off there talking about you high schooldays. Obviously 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:12.040 he was killing men. Let's talk about how you got 0:07:12.080 --> 0:07:16.040 to Yukon. Man, Are you the greatest walk on ever? 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:19.880 Because we had a guy named John Lucas Lucas my dog. Yeah, 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:21.880 he walked on at Oklahoma State. He said he's the 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:26.440 greatest walk on and I heard. I don't know what 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:27.240 his stylane was. 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:29.200 It was he ended up winning Player of the Year. 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:36.520 Little my dog. 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:43.200 But hey on, no, hey, no, it's Scottie pipping. Okay, 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:47.120 study shout out a look, but you got a great 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:51.960 great orchard story. Great, yeah, my nigga, But I'm sleep 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:59.200 on that. Okay, stay, I'm not going brow Scotty scott Now, 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:00.240 how did you land you? 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:12.120 We walked on at Baylor? No way was there committed 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:14.160 robbery if she was to walk on. Hey, my boy 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:15.920 getting shipp done in real time like this. 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:20.960 He walked on. That's crazy, Like, that's crazy? But how 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:22.760 did you like? What happened to make you a walk 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:24.360 on at Ukon? Well, I graduated. 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:28.120 I graduated high school, and so I didn't go to 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:30.560 school with my my friends in public school. 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:31.760 I went to a board of school the same time. 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:33.319 It's more, and. 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:36.120 After I graduated, like all my boys, we all wanted 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:38.520 to like finish school together and just go our separation 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:39.040 from there. 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:42.520 But my family had other plans for me. Uh. 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:46.280 I think it was maybe in August, late August, right 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:49.360 before school started, and I'm getting ready to decide where 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:51.960 I'm going to go, and my family had an intervention 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:55.520 with me in the basement of some godfather ship. Life 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:57.559 was damn and all that my aunt's uncles, my mom 0:08:57.679 --> 0:09:00.440 there sister there, and they kind of just pulled me 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:02.240 aside and said, listen, we don't think you should go 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:08.400 back to high school. And so I'm like, well, we 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:10.120 already got the plan or picked the school. You know, 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:14.320 we're all going yea, Like now you're picking the college. 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:16.920 So I'm like, all right, so we're picking the college. 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:17.680 Where am I going? So? 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:20.400 I love North Carolina. At the time, Carolina was my 0:09:20.400 --> 0:09:25.440 favorite team. Kentucky was another went to John calip period 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:27.360 to this day still says I'm one of the only 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:29.200 players that he didn't get that he went after. 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:33.280 Yeah, but you made a good decision though, Yeah, you 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:35.280 com man, So I chose you u Kon. They didn't 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:38.480 have any scholarships. I still wanted to go anyway, so 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:40.200 I took a took a lone out. 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:43.080 I knew I wasn't staying longer than a year anyway, 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:44.559 So I paid the ship back at some point in 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:45.680 time for sure. 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:49.680 So like, what made you pick Yukon though from Connecticut? Yeah, 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:51.040 I know that, I didn't know if it was like 0:09:51.080 --> 0:09:52.920 I just wanted to say, Connecticut. 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:55.160 Already had the history there, like seeing them as a 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:57.840 kid going to the games, seeing Jerome dicing and how 0:09:57.840 --> 0:09:59.760 she need be get the hair braided by by my 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:02.360 aunt that damn Dyson. 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:06.439 Yeah, yeah, I'm part of the family. So and Stanley Robinson. 0:10:08.280 --> 0:10:10.640 Stick it seemed to be used to get his hair braided. 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:14.520 Yeah, she had braid. It is I used to do it. 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:15.520 Jail shout out. 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:24.240 She got some hens on her brain. 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:30.000 To be here is crazy. I got to get him 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:33.480 to jail for to be shipp to be. 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:41.120 Draft class shout to see to me God, damn for sure. 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:44.559 Yeah, you Collad, it is just different, man. So you 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:46.679 could have went to Kentucky with Marcus. 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:50.880 Hey, d Gilly she cold bro Damn that would have 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:52.640 had squad was already crazy. 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:58.360 Davids and Coo with man been no bad be here 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:01.640 everybody about for it would have been crazy on the 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:02.400 defensive end. 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:06.040 Six it was another school though it. 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:07.160 Was just Intlanta. 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:13.880 Florida was another one's another one for me too, okay, 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:15.439 and Texas was the last one. 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:19.480 All right, Damn Michael, I love you when I was 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:21.720 going when I was great school man. 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:25.120 Where you rank yourself as big in history, I just 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:28.079 stayed it long enough, even being the ringing Okay, n 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:30.120 b a correct. I guess you could put myself somewhere. 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:33.679 But college just they breeded a lot of bigs. It's 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:40.040 underrated probably the best. Sure then I'm machine Sham is 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:43.120 up there ashamed to be shine, Charlie wiling Away going 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:44.360 for sure. 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:49.720 Uh what's the Jeff Jeff Adrian, what's the boom? Yeah? 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:54.280 All of them played them at the same time. The 0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:55.559 bigs that front. 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:59.000 Court, they had some killers. It some killers that you 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:01.240 can always keep a killer. I know a lot of 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:04.360 people trying to respect. They need more respect. Even the 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:11.920 dudem Yeah, yeah, he killed that kid too. That's a program. 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:13.320 I mean, obviously they get that respect. 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:15.120 But like you said, as far as putting up banners 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:19.640 and consistency, Yukon, no question. Whoop and ship, Kimber got one, 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:24.160 bad got one? Who was the greatest player from you said? 0:12:24.160 --> 0:12:27.200 It's very Allen or what you say? Oh greatest player? Yeah, 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:29.160 that's tough. And we we have a lot of guys, man, 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:31.080 all right, Why they. 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:31.839 Was that you you think? 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:34.319 I think for me personally, for what I've seen, I 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:37.120 would say Kimba because I got to witness like what 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:37.600 he did. 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:39.400 He was crazy. I mean Cardial. 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:42.280 The list of guys that Yukon has me, it's hard 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:43.959 to really choose the greatest of all time. 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:45.839 He got read, he got Rudy. I'm gonna go with 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:49.439 Kron but you and over Kimber. 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:53.319 I love Kimber to death. Kimber has Kimba got to 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:54.560 kim got two chips. 0:12:55.400 --> 0:13:00.520 That's got to uh Ron Butler. 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:02.679 He just made you kind of look cool to me, 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:05.880 Like I knew ray I ain't see ray On like that, 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:07.960 you know what I mean? Ninety six? I seen him 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:09.640 at Irison, but I ain't watch it like that. I 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:13.640 knew Rip Hamilton is more relatable to Karan. I feel 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:15.800 like I'm from the inner city. I feel like he 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:18.960 got in trouble. I know he got in trouble, but yeah, 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:20.880 I'm like, yeah, he made you want to go to 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:23.000 and Ben Gordon was cold to I wore a team 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:23.959 shirts of Ben Gordon. 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:26.880 But Karan Butler just really it was like the guy. 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:29.520 My favorite Kimber is just that run he had in 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:31.559 the Big Eiaest to take that and then still go 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:32.400 get a chip like. 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:34.400 He really like we got that. 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:37.520 Yeah, that's what's your greatest game that you've seen him play? 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:42.480 With that Garden game, that was the best shout my 0:13:42.600 --> 0:13:44.680 boy on my pro he's from Indiana. 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:49.000 My program team. Yeah, my pro team. We're gonna get 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:51.719 We're gonna get right there every year forever. Yeah, we 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:56.120 want to watch man future, want to sh moment every 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:59.160 single year. He shot the legend. But it's all good. 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:03.520 Happosite the speaking to man, you was somebody there that, like, 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:05.600 I mean, obviously had the time in league. But people 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:07.600 don't give him it just do. He was in college 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:13.760 Jay Lamb was cing crazy a U can my boys 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:17.000 up with his whole campaign? Man, even how you're rocking down. 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:22.560 Criminal smart I said that ship to another day to 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:26.560 a smart man. I don't talk about people personal life, 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:29.880 but man, it's happened. If you'll know, y'all know that 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:37.960 boy smart man was. He was wrong. 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:41.280 He was the X factor on that team for sure. 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:44.640 In that year that it was so that was going crazy, 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:46.720 going crazy. 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:49.440 It be my man. 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:54.480 I was brying about right for sure. Crazy abount special 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:54.720 to win. 0:14:57.280 --> 0:15:00.280 I was at after me and him met because of Butler. 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:01.720 But I was a Butler student at the time. I 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:03.000 remember that national championship. 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:05.720 Yeah, I drove all the way to motherfucker Houston. 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:10.160 Too. Yeah, he was tripping you and see that the 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:11.480 game was awful. I was there too. 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:13.600 I went to the final four when I saw what 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:15.720 was the my boys? 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:17.840 Was you? It was in the club. 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:24.480 With the VC. It was out of pocket, Yeah, they look. 0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:31.160 How was in Miami? 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:35.360 I said, you ain't supposed to be here anything. They're 0:15:35.360 --> 0:15:36.120 gonna shot. 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:46.320 You. Take it over see the Bob Porter. That's what well, So, 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:49.560 but how was it your year? You called me? Obviously 0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:52.600 it was fosterous, but I wasn't. 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I had to go to class and next 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:24.480 you know, you lost in the first round, and I 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:25.520 was walking across. 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:26.440 The stage for the draft. 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:30.359 So you knew you was one of done though, you 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:30.639 know what. 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:32.520 I wanted to stay, but the only reason, the only 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:34.840 thing that kept me back from staying was we got 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:38.399 banned for the tournament. Yeah that next season, so that 0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:42.320 was we didn't get banned, I would have stayed. Nah, 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:44.640 you can't play with the to the league. 0:17:45.400 --> 0:17:47.280 But I didn't know I was going to go that 0:17:47.440 --> 0:17:49.960 high at that point, you didn't. I knew I wasn't 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:51.680 going to go lottery. I wanted to go like one 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:55.879 or two. Yeah, but I knew I was going lottery. Like, 0:17:56.200 --> 0:17:59.080 maybe I go another year. I can get myself up there. 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:00.119 You know. 0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:02.040 Obviously you know you landed in Detroit, but it was 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:03.800 enough places you thought he was gonna go and maybe 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:05.480 had any insight thought he was going to pick you up. 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:16.640 Sacramento, Sacramento and uh, Portland. What are the two teams 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:18.919 I could work out for. I didn't even work out 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:22.040 for Detroit, which is crazy. I worked out for them 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:25.119 like midnight the night before the draft. They came in, 0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:27.680 Joe Dumars came in. I worked out for them in 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:28.080 New York. 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:29.600 Damn, that's crazy. 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:32.040 You know what I'm saying, Like you got a hoop 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:33.880 at midnight, like, bro, you can't hit me up earlier 0:18:33.880 --> 0:18:35.040 in the dollars in my sleep. 0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:37.280 My agent said, get your ass up, you gotta work out. 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:40.240 I said, for who except for the Troy I said 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:42.159 they ninth? He said, he said he was going all 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:45.639 ower than six. I'm working off for nine four. So 0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:46.720 he's like, yo, what's a good idea? 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:48.280 Just do it? Just in case. I'm like, all right, Bay, 0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:50.480 let's do it. Was it bittersweet because you said you 0:18:50.520 --> 0:18:51.960 thought it was going six and below? 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:55.719 Yeah, I mean, getting drafted is always There's nothing like it, Bro. 0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:59.000 If you can never explain that feeling hearing your name 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:02.440 being called playing play video games, sit here their name called, 0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:04.240 like I got to really do it in real life, 0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:07.800 you know what I'm saying. So it was a surreal 0:19:07.880 --> 0:19:10.080 moment because I knew my life was going to change forever. 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:15.919 Like I wasn't just Andred Middletown, Connecticut, Like I'm Andre Drummer, 0:19:16.040 --> 0:19:18.920 the NBA player who made it from this small town 0:19:19.000 --> 0:19:22.520 in Connecticut. So a lot of pressure came with it too, 0:19:23.000 --> 0:19:26.520 But I was ready for it, grateful for the opportunity. 0:19:26.760 --> 0:19:27.879 How many teams you work out for? 0:19:29.920 --> 0:19:30.120 Three? 0:19:30.600 --> 0:19:36.600 Okay, yours Cleveland second. Uh uh, Portland, y'all had it. 0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:37.760 That's a hell of a draft. 0:19:37.800 --> 0:19:39.200 I had too. Great draft. 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:42.560 Great draft, especially you're looking at drift. You got Chris 0:19:42.640 --> 0:19:46.200 Milton and Draymond sac around like around. That's crazy. 0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:49.600 Chris Milton second round took. 0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:52.840 Him, Detroit took him secon round. It could be that famers. 0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:55.960 They could be Hall of famers. Draymond and Chris Middleton 0:19:55.960 --> 0:19:57.000 could probably make the Hall of Fame. 0:19:57.359 --> 0:20:02.720 I ain't bad at all. Yeah, y'all trained him as 0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:03.479 soon as I got him. 0:20:03.600 --> 0:20:10.000 Yeah, the bro we took him for with that. 0:20:10.119 --> 0:20:14.480 Brandon Jennings straight Yeah, shout to be one of my 0:20:14.560 --> 0:20:16.840 favorite pges I played with. Man, you got me, he 0:20:16.960 --> 0:20:18.840 got my money. So I always love Brandon for that. 0:20:20.000 --> 0:20:22.800 Okay, So that's all, Yeah, that's all. 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:24.160 Damn. 0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:27.120 That's crazy, bro trying to be Jens. 0:20:27.480 --> 0:20:29.800 So you get through your rookie year. What's Steven Gunner 0:20:29.840 --> 0:20:32.840 your coach? At that time? I had Lawrence Frank Lawrence 0:20:33.359 --> 0:20:40.800 ship Fright, the executive Lawrence. 0:20:42.359 --> 0:20:45.320 By the way, if I remember when when I was 0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:46.760 a free agent of the Clippers, I was about to 0:20:46.760 --> 0:20:47.440 go to the Clippers. 0:20:47.600 --> 0:20:49.440 He was like, he's not gonna play I don't like 0:20:49.560 --> 0:20:55.000 him like that. Frank, give me a chance. I think 0:20:55.040 --> 0:20:57.000 I was talking to him when he was a coaching Jersey. 0:20:57.560 --> 0:21:00.960 But that's crazy, bro, this is all over that. 0:21:04.200 --> 0:21:07.200 Nobody like you really I played for I played for 0:21:07.280 --> 0:21:11.000 six coaches time in Detroit. Yeah, was getting getting off 0:21:11.040 --> 0:21:14.359 of coaches? How long you played for Frank season? 0:21:15.080 --> 0:21:15.320 Damn? 0:21:15.480 --> 0:21:18.800 And then stand can standing to come to Damn? Who 0:21:18.880 --> 0:21:22.440 was We had more cheeks after John Lord, so it 0:21:22.600 --> 0:21:27.920 was Lawrence, Frank, John lower cheeks, Stan and Gunny Dayne Casey. 0:21:28.320 --> 0:21:32.040 I guess I remember doing Yeah, how many years? 0:21:32.080 --> 0:21:32.840 What was you in Detroit? 0:21:35.160 --> 0:21:37.720 I don't remember who was your coach when I hit 0:21:37.760 --> 0:21:40.879 you with that move? Damn? It was a move. I 0:21:40.960 --> 0:21:43.480 hit him with a fake bounced past. Oh, you know, 0:21:43.640 --> 0:21:44.000 trying to reach. 0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:49.600 So when you played picking rolls, he'd be trying to 0:21:49.680 --> 0:21:53.280 rip the guards and get them. You got good hands, 0:21:53.320 --> 0:21:55.119 So I faked like I was going past it to 0:21:55.200 --> 0:22:03.480 the big and he went for I was like, but 0:22:03.560 --> 0:22:06.080 he be ripping guards all the time. He go down 0:22:06.160 --> 0:22:08.679 and dunk this ship. But now you and Brandon Jennings 0:22:08.680 --> 0:22:10.800 in that picking roll y'all throwing it off the backboard ship. 0:22:10.840 --> 0:22:11.879 I like when y'all got together. 0:22:11.960 --> 0:22:14.080 That was man, what's so crazy about that is there 0:22:14.160 --> 0:22:17.399 is an infamous Patiers game that y'all whooped our ass 0:22:17.560 --> 0:22:20.000 and that's all brand just did with throw libs to you. 0:22:20.119 --> 0:22:21.879 It was crazy and louis gonna find the clips. 0:22:21.920 --> 0:22:24.560 It is always resurfacing, bro y'all was murdering us and 0:22:24.560 --> 0:22:25.760 all they was doing throwing live. 0:22:25.880 --> 0:22:28.760 I was like, God, damn, you gonna let him score, 0:22:28.840 --> 0:22:31.359 let me score. We didn't. It was either way. It 0:22:31.440 --> 0:22:34.200 was we had no say. So that situation, y'all was 0:22:34.280 --> 0:22:36.200 killing us. Girl. I remember when he was when he 0:22:36.280 --> 0:22:38.240 first came in the league, you know, talking to like 0:22:38.320 --> 0:22:39.160 the older guys. 0:22:39.160 --> 0:22:42.640 Like he's strong as fucked. I'm like, the dude only 0:22:42.720 --> 0:22:48.320 like nineteen, like he grown, like he's so strong. So 0:22:48.440 --> 0:22:50.920 when he was set screens like he slipped, he slip 0:22:51.000 --> 0:22:52.320 out of him a lot and go get the live. 0:22:52.640 --> 0:22:54.880 So I used to be scared because everybody talk about 0:22:54.880 --> 0:22:56.480 strong years. I'm like, man, don't hit me, don't hit me. 0:22:56.680 --> 0:22:58.560 Hit me. Yeah, slipp I'm like, thank God, but I 0:22:58.560 --> 0:22:59.679 wouldn't play no defense. 0:23:02.960 --> 0:23:05.359 Here, go get the live. But now y'all picking roll 0:23:05.480 --> 0:23:07.560 was crazy. I just want to ask you Okay, you 0:23:07.720 --> 0:23:11.640 was there when Josh Smith got there, smoove and y'all 0:23:11.720 --> 0:23:12.960 had Greg Monroe. 0:23:13.680 --> 0:23:15.399 That was a big ass team. That was one of 0:23:15.440 --> 0:23:19.920 the sickest. That's one of the worst line ups. 0:23:20.080 --> 0:23:25.320 You know. I started lining with chilled Josh Smith, Greg Moreau, myself. 0:23:27.080 --> 0:23:37.919 Know, damn y'all straight to fence of mind. Yeah, at 0:23:37.960 --> 0:23:39.200 the three, I said, we're good. 0:23:39.520 --> 0:23:42.239 I love Josh. No way, he's playing the three, bro, 0:23:42.880 --> 0:23:44.600 Ain't no way. I was running up and down to 0:23:46.760 --> 0:23:50.000 work though. They had to take they had to get 0:23:50.080 --> 0:23:52.840 smooth off the bench man they put on in there. 0:23:53.520 --> 0:23:56.480 Yeah, that made me sense though. Yeah, he's a natural 0:23:56.560 --> 0:24:01.800 three playing smool run the floor. Yeah, but was trying 0:24:01.800 --> 0:24:05.920 to make shore threes in the era that was keep sure, 0:24:06.000 --> 0:24:06.680 work on your guys. 0:24:06.800 --> 0:24:09.320 Oh my god. But you know that was like. 0:24:11.119 --> 0:24:11.520 No matter. 0:24:13.160 --> 0:24:15.960 But that was a lot of I was like, yeah, 0:24:16.000 --> 0:24:17.919 this is gonna last facing. 0:24:21.720 --> 0:24:23.400 I want to get back to that. But you're talking 0:24:23.440 --> 0:24:25.440 about the physicality factor, how strong you are. How was 0:24:25.480 --> 0:24:27.399 your adjustment to the NBA from college? 0:24:29.200 --> 0:24:31.919 It was different because I remember my first few games, 0:24:31.960 --> 0:24:34.440 like playing against like real grown man. I'm like, damn, 0:24:34.440 --> 0:24:38.040 I gotta start fucking lifting weights and then we played. 0:24:38.119 --> 0:24:40.720 I played the White for the first time, and that 0:24:40.840 --> 0:24:42.960 was the day I was like, yeah, I need to 0:24:43.040 --> 0:24:46.680 really like because I never felt so helpless as a 0:24:46.720 --> 0:24:49.440 player in my life. Like he was like doing the 0:24:49.520 --> 0:24:51.560 post move and I just was like not there, like 0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:57.600 just hit me finished. I couldn't count stop him. So hey, man, 0:24:58.080 --> 0:24:58.840 welcome to the league. 0:24:58.920 --> 0:24:59.160 Moment. 0:24:59.560 --> 0:25:02.320 Yeah, hour, for sure. It was personalized, like every time 0:25:02.359 --> 0:25:04.520 I saw the White I tried to violate. Yeah, like 0:25:04.600 --> 0:25:06.000 it was personally. I didn't like what he did. 0:25:06.440 --> 0:25:08.879 Yeah, the White was he was laughing and ship your 0:25:08.920 --> 0:25:11.320 big as kids, giggling and ship scoring on me, you know, 0:25:11.880 --> 0:25:12.480 dunking the ball. 0:25:12.520 --> 0:25:14.520 I can't do about it. You gotta take that though, 0:25:14.600 --> 0:25:16.320 brocept that ship. 0:25:20.720 --> 0:25:24.480 You realize you physically not ready. That was Orlando d Wight. Yeah, 0:25:25.560 --> 0:25:28.120 oh ship, you didn't even see Orlando Dwight. I don't 0:25:28.119 --> 0:25:30.919 want to play to young Orlando Dwight. He did, bro 0:25:31.119 --> 0:25:33.479 on top of your mock biscuits. Man, what I used 0:25:33.520 --> 0:25:35.960 to I threw a floater, hit the top of the backboard. 0:25:36.440 --> 0:25:38.200 I shot it at the front at the top of 0:25:38.240 --> 0:25:43.200 the backboard. The White was crazy. It was like he 0:25:43.320 --> 0:25:46.480 blocked everything and people, I know, whatever you say the 0:25:46.560 --> 0:25:48.600 junxst is cool, but like the reason why they got 0:25:48.680 --> 0:25:50.080 to the finals was because. 0:25:49.960 --> 0:25:51.360 The White was that good. 0:25:53.160 --> 0:25:55.200 There was a Progression team that had all shooters. Turk 0:25:55.560 --> 0:25:58.159 was a six nine point but Dwight Howard was like that. 0:25:58.400 --> 0:25:59.120 Man. 0:25:59.240 --> 0:26:01.760 He was still prop double machine though in Houston. 0:26:01.560 --> 0:26:07.159 When but d White and fucking he was. It was 0:26:07.280 --> 0:26:10.680 animal for sure. All your rookie year he was know 0:26:10.800 --> 0:26:11.800 this might be a sophomore year. 0:26:11.840 --> 0:26:14.000 I believe he was a part of the infamous He 0:26:14.000 --> 0:26:16.480 didn't play much that game, but the infamous Kyrie and. 0:26:18.119 --> 0:26:21.960 The night back and forth to witness that live. That 0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:23.800 was my rookie year. I was hurt. I had a 0:26:23.800 --> 0:26:25.680 trust faction in my back. Yeah, I was there for that. 0:26:26.480 --> 0:26:30.280 That ship was insane, Like we need that energy back 0:26:30.320 --> 0:26:32.560 in the All Star Game. But I know the guys 0:26:32.600 --> 0:26:35.440 going at each other. Man, that was great basketball. Like 0:26:35.480 --> 0:26:38.080 we're still talking about that teen years later. Yeah, that 0:26:38.240 --> 0:26:41.160 was e lead basketball. You had Tim Partaway and Dion 0:26:41.240 --> 0:26:44.440 Whiter's do it Like, I want that ship too, Yeah, 0:26:44.600 --> 0:26:46.240 we need the energy. Bat How was that to be 0:26:46.440 --> 0:26:47.760 a part of that environment though. 0:26:48.880 --> 0:26:50.720 It felt like streetball, man, It felt like we was 0:26:50.800 --> 0:26:53.480 really just out there hooping with no conscious No one 0:26:53.640 --> 0:26:55.760 was thinking. It was just like you get a bucket, 0:26:56.200 --> 0:26:59.120 I gotta scoring, you know, like it was it was dope, 0:26:59.160 --> 0:27:00.639 like guys were really really playing. 0:27:01.240 --> 0:27:03.560 Man. Brendon Knight was cold. He just got caught up 0:27:03.600 --> 0:27:05.119 in a lot of bullshit moments. 0:27:05.280 --> 0:27:08.880 He was was hard, he was he got something. 0:27:09.000 --> 0:27:10.480 One of the most hard working people I met my 0:27:10.600 --> 0:27:12.760 tired life and we have the same trainer at Miami shot. 0:27:12.560 --> 0:27:15.320 At the remy workouts. He came man. 0:27:15.400 --> 0:27:16.600 He worked hard at ship. 0:27:17.359 --> 0:27:21.159 He a solid nigga too, man solid. It was cold. 0:27:21.400 --> 0:27:23.080 I mean he still is good at basketball, but he 0:27:23.200 --> 0:27:26.000 was super cold. It's just people catch him on the wrong. 0:27:25.920 --> 0:27:32.359 Highlight and he got highlights. Yeah, Like his highlight tapes 0:27:32.400 --> 0:27:32.840 are crazy. 0:27:32.880 --> 0:27:36.160 They just never playing, but they always play him getting 0:27:36.240 --> 0:27:37.399 dunk across by carry. 0:27:37.440 --> 0:27:44.639 But time that mother dunk that it's one of the 0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:47.280 most because he failed and went flat. 0:27:47.520 --> 0:27:51.240 That's when memes start first coming out. He fell into 0:27:51.320 --> 0:27:55.919 somebody cask and the closed that bitch me, that's crazy. 0:27:56.560 --> 0:27:56.879 But you. 0:27:58.760 --> 0:28:01.440 Remember watching that ship, bro, because I was still hurt. 0:28:01.520 --> 0:28:03.200 So I'm sitting I'm sitting on the bench in my 0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:06.720 suit watching this ship. Mind you, I've never seen Lop 0:28:06.840 --> 0:28:11.600 City live until this game. So when I saw that ship, 0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:13.720 I'm like, Nah, this. 0:28:13.760 --> 0:28:19.119 Is the NBA for real, like they had, Man, I 0:28:20.480 --> 0:28:26.560 gotta talk to you. I would never handle that. Man. 0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:29.359 Who are you best big to play it against so 0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:32.880 far in your career? White or somebody else? 0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:38.720 Man Jokic and Be a couple of years back out 0:28:38.720 --> 0:28:41.040 of those suits, I would saying be because he's more physical, 0:28:41.600 --> 0:28:43.440 Like I had to really like put force in the 0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:47.640 guarden him with K I just used my speed. I 0:28:47.800 --> 0:28:48.360 just guard him. 0:28:49.200 --> 0:28:52.800 But he's scrafty man, crafty, crafty player, smart, how his 0:28:52.880 --> 0:28:53.720 teammates involved. 0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:56.680 Yeah, it's like high man. 0:28:57.040 --> 0:29:00.200 Yeah, you make one bad move, He's going you make 0:29:00.240 --> 0:29:03.320 you pay for it. Do you like this era? Like 0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:06.960 because you don't, I hate it? Click? 0:29:08.800 --> 0:29:13.360 But do you see it kind of like turning a 0:29:13.400 --> 0:29:14.880 little bit though, because they're starting to go back a 0:29:14.920 --> 0:29:16.960 little bit. Say you got some bigs that can play 0:29:17.080 --> 0:29:19.800 like I know, like thirteen years ago used to throw 0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:22.240 the ball in the post on like let get after it. 0:29:22.480 --> 0:29:24.000 Yeah, and then it. 0:29:24.040 --> 0:29:26.680 Went to all threes like usually to catch a live 0:29:26.760 --> 0:29:28.720 where you gotta shoot all threes. And now I see 0:29:28.760 --> 0:29:31.000 it kind of transitioning back to like you can throw 0:29:31.040 --> 0:29:32.320 the ball in the post some of the bigs and 0:29:32.360 --> 0:29:33.000 still operate. 0:29:34.480 --> 0:29:36.400 And you said you hate this area, so I respected. 0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:37.840 How do you adapt though? 0:29:38.360 --> 0:29:38.600 For me? 0:29:39.000 --> 0:29:42.720 Yeah, it's being being athletic is really will helped me 0:29:43.040 --> 0:29:45.160 throughout the throughout the changes of the game, Like when 0:29:45.160 --> 0:29:48.080 they were playing small ball five and everybody shooting threes. 0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:50.640 I was able to guard one through five. You know, 0:29:50.720 --> 0:29:52.960 I really kept my body right throughout that time. I 0:29:53.000 --> 0:29:57.280 didn't let you know the game like, yeah, I didn't 0:29:57.320 --> 0:29:59.440 let it. I let it happen because I wanted it too. 0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:01.920 And I offer the service that teams always seen. I 0:30:02.080 --> 0:30:04.320 still give you fifteen rebounds. Then they got to guard 0:30:04.360 --> 0:30:04.920 me in the other end. 0:30:04.960 --> 0:30:07.120 Two. So choices, Jorge, you really want to keep putting 0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:09.680 a six y five guy on me and I can 0:30:09.720 --> 0:30:13.080 guard him to Yeah, choice is yours. How you want 0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:14.360 that to go? Keep you in business? 0:30:14.360 --> 0:30:16.480 For sw I want to ask you, as a crazy rebounder, 0:30:17.680 --> 0:30:20.080 more shot attempts, a lot, more crazy er threes week, 0:30:20.240 --> 0:30:21.080 Does that help your brand? 0:30:21.160 --> 0:30:23.600 Easy? For sure? Keep shooting that. If you want to 0:30:26.240 --> 0:30:26.960 get it, I'm gonna get it. 0:30:27.800 --> 0:30:31.400 In fact, I never thought about it like that, like, yeah, 0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:35.600 if I'm a rebound. I'm like, yeah, shoot sixty thirty. Yeah, shoot, 0:30:35.640 --> 0:30:36.240 that ship. 0:30:37.720 --> 0:30:38.440 Helped the payroll. 0:30:39.360 --> 0:30:40.560 Yeah, contract it. 0:30:41.200 --> 0:30:43.160 I want to talk about mayor first All Star and 0:30:43.200 --> 0:30:45.240 it being one of the most special Offstar games around. 0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:46.160 Man, how was that moment? 0:30:46.400 --> 0:30:51.360 Crazy Kobe's last All Star game? Sane insane in Toronto? 0:30:51.920 --> 0:30:53.000 Yeah, that was. 0:30:53.160 --> 0:30:55.520 It was cool to ship out there, like you wouldn't 0:30:55.520 --> 0:30:58.000 even enjoyable, Like you couldn't even like walk off side 0:30:58.040 --> 0:31:00.440 in piece, like you will freeze the moment you steppedup side. 0:31:01.120 --> 0:31:05.720 But that game in itself was just memorable, like start 0:31:05.760 --> 0:31:08.280 to finish, from like walking into the locker room seeing him, 0:31:09.400 --> 0:31:11.000 you know, being on the same court as him, being 0:31:11.040 --> 0:31:13.080 able to interact with him, knowing that this is like 0:31:13.160 --> 0:31:15.560 the last time you'll really be on the floor with him. 0:31:15.720 --> 0:31:17.760 I think we played them already twice, so I didn't 0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:21.040 get to see him again after that, And it was 0:31:21.080 --> 0:31:23.120 just a special moment for me because as a kid 0:31:23.240 --> 0:31:25.800 growing up and watching Kobe and watching the things he's 0:31:25.880 --> 0:31:29.760 done with this league and to have a moment to 0:31:30.000 --> 0:31:32.880 share the court with him one last time like that shit. 0:31:32.800 --> 0:31:34.160 Is You'll never forget that, bro. 0:31:34.320 --> 0:31:36.080 Like I got the highlight tape playing in my house 0:31:36.240 --> 0:31:39.280 in Miami for no reason, like it's just circulated. 0:31:39.360 --> 0:31:43.200 Just that Again, did you like when you got announced 0:31:43.200 --> 0:31:44.360 that we're gonna make the All Star Team? 0:31:44.400 --> 0:31:45.000 What was that film? 0:31:45.040 --> 0:31:45.080 Like? 0:31:45.120 --> 0:31:47.520 I know, like getting drafted is the ultimate feeling. But 0:31:47.640 --> 0:31:50.960 when I got my one night all start not like that. 0:31:51.080 --> 0:31:55.560 Shit felt like unbelievable. It's a crazy feeling. Yeah, it's like, nah, 0:31:55.680 --> 0:31:57.800 this is it, Like I'm at the pinnacle, like I'm 0:31:57.960 --> 0:31:59.280 top twenty four or whatever. 0:31:59.520 --> 0:32:01.800 If you want to chasing you start chasing it after 0:32:01.920 --> 0:32:04.520 that once you get there, like no, I got to 0:32:04.560 --> 0:32:07.200 stay here, like if you get it once and always. 0:32:07.000 --> 0:32:10.320 Have to just disrespect me every. 0:32:12.480 --> 0:32:15.920 Ship after Early I said this Nigga talking about his journey. 0:32:17.640 --> 0:32:18.040 Were talking. 0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:24.120 He said, when you make it once, it's a fun watch. 0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:27.320 I got he do that a lot. He get offended. 0:32:29.160 --> 0:32:33.040 He's saying, Nigga, he's trying to chase it. You want 0:32:33.080 --> 0:32:34.560 to keep going because you don't want to make it. 0:32:34.640 --> 0:32:36.800 You don't want to make it once, and it is 0:32:36.840 --> 0:32:38.120 a fluke like that. 0:32:45.640 --> 0:32:47.640 I try to give it Early I made it once. 0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:54.360 No, definitely definitely a great time man, just having my 0:32:54.480 --> 0:32:57.640 name being called uh for the work that I put 0:32:57.680 --> 0:33:00.560 in help my team get into the playoffs YouTube and 0:33:00.640 --> 0:33:02.520 that was the first time they made it since two 0:33:02.560 --> 0:33:04.800 thousand and four too, So yeah. 0:33:05.960 --> 0:33:08.160 An amazing experience, not even just for me, for my family. 0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:11.280 I think that's what really meant more than me being 0:33:11.320 --> 0:33:13.520 able to share that moment with my mom and sister, 0:33:13.640 --> 0:33:17.520 because those are like my my staples, Like that's who 0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:17.920 who I. 0:33:17.920 --> 0:33:18.400 Would lean on. 0:33:18.600 --> 0:33:20.960 So to share that moment with them, have them be 0:33:21.080 --> 0:33:23.680 there on a stage where they get to see Lebron James, 0:33:23.880 --> 0:33:26.320 you know, and these other these other big time people. 0:33:27.400 --> 0:33:29.760 It's nothing like it. And I want to shout out 0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:30.239 your fan man. 0:33:30.320 --> 0:33:32.440 Like you said early on the you know what I'm saying, 0:33:32.480 --> 0:33:34.480 we see a lot of situations where people are in 0:33:34.560 --> 0:33:36.600 situations where they got to pull their family up and 0:33:36.640 --> 0:33:38.600 make all the decisions. Your family held you down and 0:33:38.640 --> 0:33:40.520 say nah, we're not going back to high school. We're 0:33:40.520 --> 0:33:43.360 looking at your bab So it's for them to be 0:33:43.400 --> 0:33:45.480 a positive influencer your life and for them to enjoy 0:33:45.560 --> 0:33:47.320 that moment. Like you said, that's fire both. 0:33:47.520 --> 0:33:49.160 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:33:49.400 --> 0:33:52.040 Seeing everything come to fluition, just everything that we planned 0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:53.640 and you know, prayed about. 0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:56.920 You got a lot of faith in your mama, and 0:33:57.280 --> 0:33:59.920 Mama always said, Man, I got that. 0:34:02.360 --> 0:34:17.520 Six twelve, get that money. 0:34:17.600 --> 0:34:24.719 First, shout the games, Come ye wrest, come shot the mom. 0:34:24.800 --> 0:34:30.440 Man. In fact, shout everything you do, shout shot the man. 0:34:30.520 --> 0:34:32.000 Listen, I want to talk about I mean, we're going 0:34:32.040 --> 0:34:34.279 to talk about other teams the show, but one of 0:34:34.320 --> 0:34:37.360 the most unappreciated years is Blake Griffin and Detroit. 0:34:37.480 --> 0:34:37.600 Man. 0:34:37.680 --> 0:34:40.120 Man, he won't need to speak on that more about 0:34:40.120 --> 0:34:41.920 I know people talk about his Lop City days, but 0:34:42.000 --> 0:34:44.200 what he did that year he was still hurt as well. 0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:47.000 Y'all was going crazy to get into the playoffs. Man, 0:34:47.120 --> 0:34:48.920 talk about that year, man, because b was in the 0:34:48.960 --> 0:34:51.919 what top three and vy people they both of Hooper 0:34:52.000 --> 0:34:53.200 that year that I was killing. 0:34:55.440 --> 0:34:58.840 I think we knew that if we didn't do it, 0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:00.640 now this is it. M hmm. 0:35:00.960 --> 0:35:06.200 So like between myself, Reggie and Blake, you know, we 0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:08.600 came together that summer like yo, like now is the 0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:12.120 time we know Blake, you know he was having the 0:35:12.200 --> 0:35:14.440 knee issues, Like if we don't get the best out 0:35:14.480 --> 0:35:17.600 of him now, like so this is this is it? 0:35:17.840 --> 0:35:20.480 So I think we just had that that disposition in 0:35:20.560 --> 0:35:24.960 that mindset that we weren't going to be denied, and 0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:27.680 we just had this level of focus as as a team. 0:35:27.719 --> 0:35:29.160 I didn't just us three, but as a team, he 0:35:29.200 --> 0:35:31.480 had this level of focus that like, now is the 0:35:31.520 --> 0:35:33.719 time because if we don't do it now, we're all 0:35:33.760 --> 0:35:34.960 getting fucking shipped out of here. 0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:40.960 It happened, and it happened. So shrut to Blake Griffin. Man. 0:35:41.040 --> 0:35:43.520 You know, he he didn't have to do it, Like 0:35:43.600 --> 0:35:45.560 he didn't have to put his body through that throughout 0:35:45.600 --> 0:35:48.120 the entire season, come back during the playoffs and still 0:35:48.760 --> 0:35:51.840 try to play on a on a hurt knee and 0:35:51.960 --> 0:35:57.839 still produced, still produced. So you know, Blake was one 0:35:57.840 --> 0:35:59.320 of my favorite teamates that I had to You know, 0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:02.120 he definitely got the best out of me too, because 0:36:02.120 --> 0:36:03.640 I was still learning. I was still young, bro, Like 0:36:03.680 --> 0:36:05.879 if you really think about it, like I was twenty six, 0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:09.440 twenty seven. You know, Blake has been around for a 0:36:09.520 --> 0:36:11.839 minute and he's an established guy too, So I learned 0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:13.600 a lot from him too about just being a winner. 0:36:15.040 --> 0:36:17.399 So shout out to Blake Griffin, Appreciate what you've done 0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:20.440 for me my career. Forever grateful for. 0:36:20.520 --> 0:36:20.920 Sure, man. 0:36:20.920 --> 0:36:22.520 Shout out to bg wand the coldis Man. 0:36:23.080 --> 0:36:24.680 And that was a magical year for him for sure, 0:36:24.719 --> 0:36:26.640 Like you said, bouncing back from the injury, still killing 0:36:26.680 --> 0:36:28.440 two And then that was what second. 0:36:28.239 --> 0:36:31.480 All starting off for you that year? Yep, yeah, second one, La, 0:36:31.680 --> 0:36:37.279 What was that like? I just want what that feeling like? 0:36:37.360 --> 0:36:40.080 The second one wasn't said the second The second one 0:36:41.840 --> 0:36:45.360 he's been a block. The second one was just you. 0:36:45.400 --> 0:36:45.759 Know it was. 0:36:46.040 --> 0:36:50.719 It was cool for me because I kind of I 0:36:50.800 --> 0:36:55.880 got it late. I was a reserve, reserve, a feeling 0:36:56.040 --> 0:36:57.960 for somebody who didn't play in So it wasn't like 0:36:58.000 --> 0:36:59.800 I made it, but I made it. 0:37:00.800 --> 0:37:05.600 That counts reserve. It wouldn't have matter if I was picked. 0:37:05.760 --> 0:37:08.319 But still still a great feeling, you know, getting two 0:37:08.360 --> 0:37:12.080 of them, and you know, playing in that game always is. 0:37:12.520 --> 0:37:15.759 It's fun though most definitely I gotta ask you know 0:37:15.760 --> 0:37:17.439 what I'm saying that make sure you make a change. 0:37:17.520 --> 0:37:18.000 What's that light? 0:37:18.080 --> 0:37:19.840 You know what I'm saying going for being an organization? 0:37:20.040 --> 0:37:21.600 You was in Detroit for eight years now, your first 0:37:21.640 --> 0:37:23.120 time switching up do a different city. 0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:24.720 How was that like? Especially? 0:37:24.760 --> 0:37:27.520 I know, like people talk about the actual situation of basketball, 0:37:27.560 --> 0:37:28.400 but mentally, what's it like? 0:37:28.520 --> 0:37:30.239 All right? Now? I'm in a different phase of my life. 0:37:31.320 --> 0:37:35.320 Yeah, getting traded from Detroit was the ship was like 0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:37.759 a movie bro Like, it didn't it didn't make sense. 0:37:38.200 --> 0:37:42.520 I didn't understand it, none of it. I didn't process 0:37:42.600 --> 0:37:44.640 it well, and I don't think I took it very 0:37:44.680 --> 0:37:47.640 well because I was kind of blindsided by it and 0:37:47.760 --> 0:37:51.640 I didn't know why. I thought the relationship we had 0:37:52.600 --> 0:37:55.280 in that city was a lot stronger than what was presented. 0:37:55.360 --> 0:37:58.200 But m hm, you know, I forget that this is 0:37:58.239 --> 0:37:59.000 also a business. 0:37:59.520 --> 0:38:03.160 You want your yay. I wanted to retire in de Troy. Man, 0:38:03.200 --> 0:38:04.799 that was that was it. That's home. I still got 0:38:04.840 --> 0:38:05.279 a crib there. 0:38:05.320 --> 0:38:13.279 Now, don't people say that I grew ugled in. 0:38:13.560 --> 0:38:15.040 I grew I grew up in the Troy, so like 0:38:15.120 --> 0:38:17.279 Detroit was home for me. Like I just got there, 0:38:17.400 --> 0:38:19.879 like when I was twenty three, twenty four experienced life. 0:38:19.920 --> 0:38:22.359 I got eighteen years old, so I was still a kid. 0:38:23.120 --> 0:38:27.120 So everything I learned was there. But being traded in 0:38:27.200 --> 0:38:32.120 synth of Cleveland, I was was weird because Tristan Thompson 0:38:32.239 --> 0:38:34.160 was still there, and so I'm like, how does this 0:38:34.320 --> 0:38:35.759 work for me? 0:38:36.440 --> 0:38:42.920 Yeah, you're good? That would CT thirteen. 0:38:43.560 --> 0:38:46.360 I didn't I didn't understand what the what the plan was, 0:38:46.440 --> 0:38:48.919 and how this fits, like for the purpose of this trade, 0:38:49.000 --> 0:38:50.640 like how does this work for my career? 0:38:51.719 --> 0:38:54.480 And lo and behold to find out that it set 0:38:54.560 --> 0:38:58.480 my ship spiraling. My stock just went down, you know, 0:38:58.560 --> 0:39:01.480 the appreciation for my game down. So I had to 0:39:01.560 --> 0:39:04.560 get to a new mindset of just like how do 0:39:04.680 --> 0:39:08.000 I maneuver and how do I shake this? Uh this 0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:10.759 narrative that is painted on me right now. 0:39:11.480 --> 0:39:14.560 So not one of my favorite clauds, but like one 0:39:14.600 --> 0:39:16.319 of my things I think the kids need to see. 0:39:16.560 --> 0:39:18.200 When he was giving games to the kids, he was 0:39:18.280 --> 0:39:20.000 just like, look how this game goes. You know, so 0:39:20.200 --> 0:39:21.960 I've been here, I've been here, I've been here. This 0:39:22.080 --> 0:39:24.000 game will take you anywhere, but you got to always 0:39:24.040 --> 0:39:26.759 be ready. That's like a true testament that situation. Like 0:39:26.800 --> 0:39:29.200 now I'm somewhere where I know I'm elite, but I'm 0:39:29.239 --> 0:39:30.960 in a situation that don't make sense. But I still 0:39:30.960 --> 0:39:32.560 got to keep my mental here because I know I'm 0:39:32.560 --> 0:39:35.240 still working. So that was one of the most fire videos. 0:39:35.920 --> 0:39:38.320 I was a max player one hundred million dollars and 0:39:38.400 --> 0:39:39.800 I had to go figure it out again. 0:39:40.360 --> 0:39:41.920 Yeah, I mean a lot of people don't want to 0:39:41.920 --> 0:39:45.640 do that though, and with that situation, it wasn't playing 0:39:45.640 --> 0:39:46.920 too like a lot of people asked, yo, did you 0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:49.560 plan to do that? Not Like I was genuinely like 0:39:50.520 --> 0:39:53.719 in the moment with that situation, because I'm seeing the 0:39:53.840 --> 0:39:58.600 next generation of what I was and if I can 0:39:58.680 --> 0:40:01.640 just shed a little bit of light and show them 0:40:01.719 --> 0:40:04.480 there there's so much more to this game than just 0:40:04.880 --> 0:40:08.600 scoring thirty points a game. You know, I feel like 0:40:08.600 --> 0:40:10.960 I've done my job and it was just one of 0:40:10.960 --> 0:40:14.560 those moments I feel like I really it really stuck 0:40:14.840 --> 0:40:17.600 what I said because it was personal. Bro, it's just us. 0:40:17.680 --> 0:40:19.080 It's just me and my team did I was coaching, 0:40:19.120 --> 0:40:21.880 it was just us. There was ten of us, had 0:40:21.960 --> 0:40:24.680 us in the circle, and I was talking to them 0:40:24.719 --> 0:40:26.560 like it was I let them with y'all. These kids 0:40:26.600 --> 0:40:28.320 are fucking fifteen sixteen and they don't know what the 0:40:28.360 --> 0:40:29.920 fuck I'm talking about. But the way I explained it 0:40:30.000 --> 0:40:32.480 to them, it's like, Oh, there's so much to this 0:40:32.600 --> 0:40:35.960 game that that that has to offer. Yeah, you take 0:40:36.000 --> 0:40:36.760 this shit seriously. 0:40:37.200 --> 0:40:38.560 Who embraced you down in Cleveland? 0:40:38.600 --> 0:40:38.759 Though? 0:40:38.800 --> 0:40:41.600 Did anybody like make you feel comfortable while you was there? 0:40:41.719 --> 0:40:43.040 Or you just the team didn't? 0:40:43.080 --> 0:40:46.239 The team was great, and the organization, Cleveland's organization was great, 0:40:46.320 --> 0:40:47.400 Like they definitely knew that. 0:40:47.480 --> 0:40:48.080 I was like. 0:40:49.760 --> 0:40:53.759 Uncomfortable and I did. I still wasn't like understanding what 0:40:53.920 --> 0:40:55.600 was going on because it was new. I've never been 0:40:55.640 --> 0:40:56.120 traded before. 0:40:56.200 --> 0:40:58.839 Bro. I was like, I asked my agent, I said, 0:40:58.840 --> 0:41:00.080 what the fuck do I do? Like I never the 0:41:00.120 --> 0:41:01.680 trade before? Do I like, do I go home? 0:41:01.800 --> 0:41:02.879 Or you pack your ship? 0:41:05.880 --> 0:41:12.320 He's like, get it? Did you get traded this summer 0:41:12.560 --> 0:41:13.200 or like was it? 0:41:13.360 --> 0:41:13.400 No? 0:41:13.680 --> 0:41:15.400 This is the this is like eight minutes before the 0:41:15.480 --> 0:41:18.960 trade deadline, Like I am. I was at the airport. 0:41:19.080 --> 0:41:20.000 So how did you find out? 0:41:20.160 --> 0:41:22.040 I was at the airport about to get up, about 0:41:22.040 --> 0:41:23.880 to go on the plane to uh we're going to 0:41:23.920 --> 0:41:26.800 okay see in Detroit and we're about to leave and 0:41:26.840 --> 0:41:28.439 I'm about to pull up to the airport. My agent 0:41:28.520 --> 0:41:30.480 calls me and said what are you doing. I'm like, 0:41:30.800 --> 0:41:33.520 I'm about to They're about to get out, Like what's good? 0:41:34.120 --> 0:41:38.200 He's like, don't go. I'm looking at the time I 0:41:38.239 --> 0:41:38.719 said that ship. 0:41:38.760 --> 0:41:43.839 I'm like, damn niggas fucking three fifty seven tradeadline over 0:41:43.880 --> 0:41:45.239 in a couple of minutes, Like what do you what do. 0:41:45.200 --> 0:41:47.680 You mean, he's like, no, I think they find a deal. 0:41:47.719 --> 0:41:49.360 I think you're going to Cleveland. 0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:50.560 Wow. 0:41:51.280 --> 0:41:55.520 So I said okay, So I said now what he said, 0:41:55.520 --> 0:41:58.480 what you mean? I was like, what do I do? Now? 0:41:58.560 --> 0:42:01.840 He's like, go home. I was like, well then what. 0:42:01.920 --> 0:42:09.120 He's like, pack a bag. He's like, pack it back 0:42:09.160 --> 0:42:10.680 for like a week. I think they got a real trip. 0:42:10.719 --> 0:42:11.800 Pack it back for a week. We'll come back and 0:42:11.840 --> 0:42:13.560 get the rest of your ship. So I'm like, so 0:42:13.920 --> 0:42:14.200 that's it. 0:42:14.280 --> 0:42:16.319 I don't get to say by to nobody or that ship. 0:42:17.040 --> 0:42:20.080 He's like, nah, bro, that's the business. It's the way 0:42:20.120 --> 0:42:22.120 the game. So that after that day is when I 0:42:22.200 --> 0:42:25.960 kind of became like cold. Yeah, I became cold to 0:42:26.680 --> 0:42:29.600 like this business. Like it's hard for me to like 0:42:30.000 --> 0:42:34.680 create friendships in this business. Now how fast and how 0:42:34.880 --> 0:42:38.120 easily we're moved around like fucking chess pieces. 0:42:38.280 --> 0:42:41.719 Oh god, that's good. That's good. They embrace you though, cool, 0:42:41.920 --> 0:42:42.719 but they embraced me. 0:42:42.760 --> 0:42:43.480 I love clean. 0:42:43.520 --> 0:42:45.120 I had one of my best times in Cleveland, Like 0:42:45.200 --> 0:42:48.520 they really really embraced me because I wanted to win, 0:42:48.680 --> 0:42:50.320 Like I really wanted to prove people wrong that I 0:42:50.400 --> 0:42:52.439 am a winner, Like I'm not just a fucking guy 0:42:52.480 --> 0:42:54.759 that averages fifteen or fifteen. 0:42:54.440 --> 0:42:55.799 And doesn't win like I wanted to win. 0:42:56.440 --> 0:42:58.319 And that was really where that sparked for me too, 0:42:58.520 --> 0:43:01.600 like I gotta learn I don't win and the rest 0:43:01.640 --> 0:43:02.399 of the ship will come. 0:43:02.880 --> 0:43:04.799 Yeah, getting traded off. 0:43:05.120 --> 0:43:08.080 Remember when I was in Boston, you know how you 0:43:08.200 --> 0:43:09.960 make it like, oh, you're getting traded I was one 0:43:09.960 --> 0:43:12.239 of them dudes like, yeah, probably your way out, bore, 0:43:12.600 --> 0:43:15.600 And then it was me like talking to. 0:43:15.640 --> 0:43:25.560 You, kimde it worse. I'm like, I'm never saying I'm 0:43:25.600 --> 0:43:26.520 be about the twelve years. 0:43:26.520 --> 0:43:30.880 I'm like, I'm about the crowd. That ship feels different, bro. 0:43:31.360 --> 0:43:32.840 I only imagine what that was like. 0:43:32.920 --> 0:43:35.120 And I don't know what it is, but I think 0:43:35.200 --> 0:43:37.120 it's just even worse when they be like, when you're 0:43:37.120 --> 0:43:38.800 about to be on the team flight, are you about 0:43:38.840 --> 0:43:39.279 to get on the. 0:43:40.840 --> 0:43:41.280 Is worse? 0:43:43.560 --> 0:43:46.400 Call me the career? Yeah you can do this. 0:43:47.040 --> 0:43:49.200 Once they canceled practice and were met at the plane, 0:43:49.239 --> 0:43:51.040 I'm like, somebody's getting moved. So I kind of had 0:43:51.080 --> 0:43:53.200 the idea that something was gonna happen, but then it 0:43:53.320 --> 0:43:53.759 was me. 0:43:54.480 --> 0:43:57.120 Damn, you know, he felt he said, Damn, I can't 0:43:57.160 --> 0:44:02.080 say bottle nobody trying to say play. 0:44:02.160 --> 0:44:03.600 They probably wanted the back. 0:44:03.719 --> 0:44:05.920 Yeah, like you said, you the game, like damn, I 0:44:05.960 --> 0:44:09.160 can't piece up my people, Like, no, that's crazy, that's 0:44:09.200 --> 0:44:10.960 some bad business man. 0:44:11.080 --> 0:44:14.239 How did y'all play them after the trade deal? Did 0:44:14.280 --> 0:44:18.879 you play damn Pandemic? Yeah? 0:44:18.880 --> 0:44:21.160 I went to Cleveland and uh, I think I played 0:44:21.880 --> 0:44:25.200 six games and then the pandemicvin oh ship, that's what 0:44:25.320 --> 0:44:27.480 I did' get to see them again. I got traded 0:44:27.520 --> 0:44:32.239 to that year. I got traded back to Atlanta. I 0:44:32.280 --> 0:44:33.480 got back to Atlanta. 0:44:33.640 --> 0:44:35.120 I was in the good seat in the Pandemic and 0:44:35.160 --> 0:44:38.440 it ain't closed. No, he was was a Miami. Oh yeah, 0:44:38.719 --> 0:44:39.799 they he. 0:44:39.840 --> 0:44:45.000 Brought that ship up here. You know, it's so crazy, 0:44:45.040 --> 0:44:47.879 you know, shout out to you know, COVID. We took 0:44:47.920 --> 0:44:53.319 it serious. This nigga had a party. You family, now 0:44:53.719 --> 0:44:55.960 you know, this nigga has a party. He got niggas 0:44:55.960 --> 0:44:58.799 taking tests. You can't come in my house. 0:45:00.239 --> 0:45:00.479 Swim. 0:45:01.320 --> 0:45:03.200 This nigga get there just getting everybody sick. 0:45:03.280 --> 0:45:11.400 He can't go here with somebody take their test. Man, 0:45:11.440 --> 0:45:15.680 because I was I was good, he was sure. I 0:45:15.840 --> 0:45:22.160 just woke up. It was time. Everybody coming with their papers. 0:45:22.200 --> 0:45:24.640 I'm like, yeah, swap them again because I don't know. 0:45:25.080 --> 0:45:28.240 Make sure I woke up it was done. I couldn't 0:45:28.280 --> 0:45:38.320 taste I was done. I called niggas like like niggas 0:45:38.680 --> 0:45:41.400 for a month. You know what's crazy. 0:45:41.640 --> 0:45:43.480 I still think about that time when like everything shut 0:45:43.560 --> 0:45:46.200 down and it's crazy that we blamed to go beare 0:45:46.239 --> 0:45:47.840 for this and he did not get a lead COVID 0:45:48.040 --> 0:45:50.040 but him touching, he definite didn't. 0:45:51.400 --> 0:45:51.720 Crazy. 0:45:52.680 --> 0:45:53.120 He didn't help. 0:45:53.480 --> 0:45:54.160 He definitely did. 0:45:55.600 --> 0:45:57.480 I remember that because that too. 0:45:59.239 --> 0:45:59.680 That for sure. 0:46:00.600 --> 0:46:10.560 They started coughing and rubbing the mics. Then two wow, 0:46:13.560 --> 0:46:14.960 that was one of the craziest moments. 0:46:15.000 --> 0:46:17.480 Like I remember that. It was another game that happened. 0:46:17.560 --> 0:46:19.480 They just like stopped it like one and a half. 0:46:19.600 --> 0:46:20.880 I was like, no, niggas got to go home. 0:46:20.920 --> 0:46:21.799 They stopped our game. 0:46:22.400 --> 0:46:25.399 It was Vince Carter last year, and they was like, yeah, 0:46:25.480 --> 0:46:27.719 the game is about to be over and whatever, like 0:46:28.880 --> 0:46:30.279 they about the end of the league. They was telling 0:46:30.360 --> 0:46:32.319 us doing the game, was like I want to use 0:46:32.360 --> 0:46:35.160 the game, and it was just like everybody's like what 0:46:35.360 --> 0:46:38.560 Vinci Vince when he was playing New York and Vince 0:46:38.600 --> 0:46:41.479 went in played like the last quarter, hit a couple 0:46:41.480 --> 0:46:42.520 of shots, and some ship. 0:46:42.360 --> 0:46:46.760 And it's like, I'm done, my dang man, that's crazy crazy. 0:46:46.880 --> 0:46:48.040 It's twenty a year or two. 0:46:48.480 --> 0:46:50.520 It was like twenty two. I don't know what you're crazy. 0:46:50.920 --> 0:46:52.120 He was really shitty too. 0:46:52.440 --> 0:46:53.760 I mean years you spending Cleveland? 0:46:55.080 --> 0:46:59.319 Uh, like a year and a half there was La, right, Yeah, 0:46:59.760 --> 0:47:00.400 I ask you. 0:47:00.440 --> 0:47:00.640 I was. 0:47:00.719 --> 0:47:02.719 I mean, obviously played some solid cities, but how was 0:47:02.760 --> 0:47:04.160 that going to LA because like, I don't know, the 0:47:04.280 --> 0:47:05.680 Laker fans, that's just crazy. 0:47:05.800 --> 0:47:07.480 Brown was there? Like how was that? Like, I don't know, 0:47:07.520 --> 0:47:08.640 that's a different type of qussion. 0:47:09.440 --> 0:47:12.640 Yeah, I mean going into a big market for the 0:47:12.719 --> 0:47:16.520 first time was insane, Like they really. 0:47:18.200 --> 0:47:19.719 If you don't got it, if you're not strong, will 0:47:19.800 --> 0:47:20.360 they will. 0:47:20.239 --> 0:47:22.759 Talk your ass I of not playing basketball no more now. 0:47:24.200 --> 0:47:26.600 So for me, I mean I went there with the 0:47:26.680 --> 0:47:28.560 mindset just to try to help the team the best 0:47:28.600 --> 0:47:31.680 way I can. Both a D and Lebron were hurt 0:47:31.800 --> 0:47:34.920 when I got there, so I was playing under man 0:47:34.960 --> 0:47:36.799 at the time too, So I did what we made 0:47:36.840 --> 0:47:38.560 it to the playing game we wanted to play in games. 0:47:38.600 --> 0:47:40.480 So my experience wasn't bad. 0:47:40.560 --> 0:47:43.960 I mean, looky, I would have stayed if they offered so, 0:47:44.840 --> 0:47:48.160 but they had a different, different plan. 0:47:48.320 --> 0:47:50.279 So it's what it is. I enjoyed my time. It 0:47:50.360 --> 0:47:50.680 was great. 0:47:50.760 --> 0:47:52.439 Great to play with Lebron, great to play with AD. 0:47:53.719 --> 0:47:56.920 Both great players. Will you could have did more? I 0:47:57.000 --> 0:48:01.200 got a question, shoot it ad Or and B in 0:48:01.320 --> 0:48:04.040 what sense gang like? 0:48:04.160 --> 0:48:07.480 Skill wise? Yeah and B you think he got more 0:48:07.800 --> 0:48:11.720 ad Dron v p B. I mean. 0:48:13.280 --> 0:48:19.839 Mainly I say that because I played against them both. 0:48:19.880 --> 0:48:24.080 Bro that your tape, Yeah, I played against them both. 0:48:24.120 --> 0:48:27.479 I mean AD is uber skilled, Like he's super skilled. 0:48:27.520 --> 0:48:29.839 It's not even not even the question, but the ship 0:48:29.880 --> 0:48:31.920 that Joely and B does at seven foot and almost 0:48:31.960 --> 0:48:35.640 three hundred pounds, that has Yeah, it's ridiculous. 0:48:35.160 --> 0:48:36.520 Bro, do with that. 0:48:36.640 --> 0:48:39.000 Not only is he beating you with guard moves, he's 0:48:39.000 --> 0:48:41.520 gonna catch you in the paint too and body. 0:48:41.719 --> 0:48:43.400 Yeah, like a D. If he catches that on the. 0:48:43.480 --> 0:48:45.520 Pick and roller, the pop picking pop to the elbow, 0:48:45.640 --> 0:48:48.200 he's dangerous. I feel like with him beat there's just 0:48:48.280 --> 0:48:50.040 so much more ship that you. 0:48:50.120 --> 0:48:52.600 Throw at you. I think in B Iso game is 0:48:52.640 --> 0:48:54.160 better than ADH for sure. 0:48:54.239 --> 0:48:56.800 I think a D he uses quickness and his athletic 0:48:56.880 --> 0:48:59.200 ability more right, Joel and B, you can really just 0:48:59.280 --> 0:49:00.640 thrown the ball like watch out. 0:49:01.920 --> 0:49:06.239 Yeah, trust me, I reguarded that nigga in practice every day. 0:49:06.239 --> 0:49:07.480 I was a tout on me for you was just 0:49:07.520 --> 0:49:08.080 trying to ship. 0:49:10.719 --> 0:49:10.959 Sure. 0:49:11.960 --> 0:49:14.000 I just asked you that, bro, because just listening to 0:49:14.080 --> 0:49:15.920 your story, I know a little bit about you. But 0:49:16.200 --> 0:49:19.400 like over the conversation asking this questions, you played with 0:49:19.600 --> 0:49:22.560 a lot of the best big man in like our 0:49:22.719 --> 0:49:26.960 era of basketball, like Floyd Griffin, all them niggas is crazy. 0:49:27.040 --> 0:49:28.520 That is crazy. Think about it. 0:49:28.560 --> 0:49:30.719 Who would you say is an underrated like Big D 0:49:31.640 --> 0:49:33.680 don't get a lot of recognition that you were probably 0:49:33.719 --> 0:49:35.719 like he cold if y'all ain't really tapped in. 0:49:38.400 --> 0:49:39.800 Or he's good. I don't say. 0:49:41.320 --> 0:49:41.760 I got. 0:49:44.080 --> 0:49:46.399 Underrated big I think it's nice that I don't think 0:49:46.440 --> 0:49:52.640 it a lot of like boot play, Yeah, but I 0:49:52.760 --> 0:50:01.920 knew you play. I'm like, yeah, who's your bucket? Yeah? Defense, 0:50:01.960 --> 0:50:05.960 but that's not what they about the same. 0:50:05.840 --> 0:50:10.680 Level of defending exactly. He's not getting the stops, bro 0:50:11.360 --> 0:50:14.000 De ro stops. I never once said I was the 0:50:14.040 --> 0:50:14.600 best defender. 0:50:14.640 --> 0:50:17.520 I compete. I never was like that. 0:50:17.719 --> 0:50:21.000 That's what the sad thing saying I compete. 0:50:21.400 --> 0:50:28.560 I compete, tried defended ski the ball. 0:50:29.880 --> 0:50:38.440 Well, He's one of the first man I say that, Like, 0:50:46.080 --> 0:50:47.520 I want to ask both of you this. Obviously know 0:50:47.760 --> 0:50:50.800 you coaches, Tige hoaching ar Madel for Shure. How was 0:50:50.880 --> 0:50:53.320 it like talking to kids about basketball, like trying to 0:50:53.360 --> 0:50:55.600 trailer because y'all played at such a high level. Obviously 0:50:55.719 --> 0:50:58.520 y'all greater, which I both did. How was it translating 0:50:58.520 --> 0:50:58.920 to the kids? 0:50:59.080 --> 0:51:00.400 Is like it seemed like kids now, I just like 0:51:00.560 --> 0:51:02.800 they don't give a damn about anybody. Resume They like 0:51:02.920 --> 0:51:05.400 we all we all? How's it hard? Like that's exactly 0:51:05.440 --> 0:51:05.840 what it is. 0:51:06.200 --> 0:51:07.640 How is it like trying to get through to them? 0:51:09.880 --> 0:51:12.200 You got to try to relate to them in their way. 0:51:13.440 --> 0:51:15.120 You can't talk to them like, yo, you need to 0:51:15.200 --> 0:51:16.480 do this or that's how you do it? Like you 0:51:16.560 --> 0:51:18.400 gotta shoot the ship with them, ask them what they 0:51:18.480 --> 0:51:20.719 fuck with? What you enjoy, like, oh, you like playing 0:51:20.760 --> 0:51:22.640 a game? What game you play? And you slipping a 0:51:22.680 --> 0:51:25.680 few conversations like yo, like what you think about this? 0:51:25.800 --> 0:51:27.800 What you see when you on the on the floor? 0:51:28.200 --> 0:51:31.680 How do you make your next guy better? But I 0:51:31.760 --> 0:51:34.279 think it's the little things with this generation that's gonna 0:51:34.280 --> 0:51:38.520 be beneficial. Just kind of really trying to understand them. Yeah, 0:51:38.600 --> 0:51:40.719 I went throughout with like you just gotta kind of 0:51:40.880 --> 0:51:42.800 encourage this group. Like I know, I grew up my 0:51:42.880 --> 0:51:48.520 coaches always like yo, you gotta do this relate to 0:51:48.600 --> 0:51:51.560 their better nature. So now you gotta They so used 0:51:51.600 --> 0:51:55.760 to everybody kind of encouraging them or babying them, like right, spoony, 0:51:56.239 --> 0:51:59.760 So everybody more used to being catered to and everybody 0:52:00.160 --> 0:52:03.120 getting stroke like you're gonna be great. You're gonna be great. 0:52:03.160 --> 0:52:04.440 You're gonna be great, And I think you got to 0:52:04.520 --> 0:52:06.480 kind of play into that. You still give them real game, 0:52:06.640 --> 0:52:08.880 like he ain't gonna be that easy, like you gotta 0:52:08.920 --> 0:52:10.759 do it this way, this way, But you also got 0:52:10.880 --> 0:52:13.920 to encourage them because they don't hear too many negatives 0:52:14.000 --> 0:52:16.399 no more like if you hear a negative, now it's 0:52:16.440 --> 0:52:25.320 like he don't like me, he don't like Yeah, and 0:52:25.440 --> 0:52:27.879 now kids don't have to fight. I'm ain't gonna say 0:52:27.880 --> 0:52:29.880 they don't. But like you can transfer now if you 0:52:29.920 --> 0:52:35.279 don't like that, coach, bro, Like that's a great question. 0:52:35.480 --> 0:52:38.080 Like if being the number one player in your class 0:52:38.680 --> 0:52:42.200 and it's n I L money, like what you think 0:52:42.239 --> 0:52:47.759 you would have got, like, man, you probably definitely Man, 0:52:47.840 --> 0:52:53.040 what I have let that out mane playing the nation. 0:52:54.560 --> 0:53:00.680 Shoot got yeah, a couple of three like that you 0:53:00.719 --> 0:53:03.320 would have got paid? What that would have changed? 0:53:04.080 --> 0:53:09.640 Seven blocks? The beauty shot. 0:53:11.040 --> 0:53:23.200 To be most of the night, Like what that would 0:53:23.200 --> 0:53:25.160 have changed your mindset? Though? Like you knew you were 0:53:25.200 --> 0:53:25.960 going one and done. 0:53:26.120 --> 0:53:27.759 But like if you got a n I l money 0:53:27.880 --> 0:53:30.319 and you don't want to play, like I'm gonna give 0:53:30.320 --> 0:53:33.239 you seven million dollars, you think your mindset would have changed? 0:53:33.280 --> 0:53:34.040 Like, yeah, I would have. 0:53:35.000 --> 0:53:37.320 Yeah, I already told you, Like I said before, I 0:53:37.320 --> 0:53:38.480 wouldn't wanted to stand anyways. 0:53:39.280 --> 0:53:41.480 And why don't you wanted the college experience? 0:53:42.000 --> 0:53:44.960 Or partly partially because I went to all boys school. 0:53:47.040 --> 0:53:49.640 I feel strong enough and I feel like I didn't 0:53:49.640 --> 0:53:52.919 really experience, like I feel like shot shout the same time. 0:53:53.200 --> 0:53:56.360 Shout and Jason t them Tom Yeah, he went to 0:53:56.400 --> 0:53:57.200 all boys school to. 0:53:57.480 --> 0:54:05.040 Ship he feels my fans though. So the park, did 0:54:05.120 --> 0:54:07.680 you have anybody come orform that just cool because they 0:54:07.680 --> 0:54:08.400 had sexy. 0:54:08.600 --> 0:54:11.319 Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's good and. 0:54:13.920 --> 0:54:16.480 It was represented that that. 0:54:16.680 --> 0:54:21.880 Oh I I hope that's not true, but that is 0:54:22.120 --> 0:54:26.480 nasty to that brow I really crazy. 0:54:27.160 --> 0:54:36.680 She opened it up. So John the same was no, 0:54:36.800 --> 0:54:43.560 that's listen, man. We said it to me, said tail poms, 0:54:43.600 --> 0:54:44.600 but you got caramel. 0:54:46.239 --> 0:54:48.120 Nig was the problem, and I said there by. 0:54:49.840 --> 0:54:53.560 I didn't need it, but that's damn y'all don't get 0:54:53.560 --> 0:54:55.960 a prom and we got suter Bro. 0:54:56.160 --> 0:54:58.840 I was always playing here you go to it. 0:54:59.239 --> 0:55:03.040 Dam I couldn't imagine going to all boys school. I 0:55:03.080 --> 0:55:05.399 mean it was awful, man, It wasn't off. It wasn't 0:55:05.400 --> 0:55:06.640 as bad you think it was. I mean I lived 0:55:06.680 --> 0:55:08.239 in Connecticut too, so I got to go home and 0:55:08.239 --> 0:55:09.400 ship it was. 0:55:09.520 --> 0:55:10.160 It wasn't bad. 0:55:10.760 --> 0:55:13.320 You was locked in, though, yeah, I mean probably be 0:55:13.520 --> 0:55:15.320 more locked in on your education in sports. 0:55:15.400 --> 0:55:16.919 Oh yeah, shout to Jerry Quinn. 0:55:17.800 --> 0:55:20.479 That was that another decision from your mom and your sister, 0:55:20.560 --> 0:55:20.959 no question. 0:55:21.320 --> 0:55:22.120 Yeah yeah. 0:55:22.320 --> 0:55:27.600 I played one season at Capitol prepping Harford, and it 0:55:27.800 --> 0:55:32.160 was like playing against children. So after that season, my 0:55:32.239 --> 0:55:34.200 mom was like, yeah, we gotta go somewhere else, so 0:55:34.800 --> 0:55:35.239 shut up. 0:55:35.600 --> 0:55:36.239 She didn't give you. 0:55:36.239 --> 0:55:36.799 Much of a choice. 0:55:36.840 --> 0:55:39.040 You visited a couple of schools, went to South Kent, 0:55:39.640 --> 0:55:42.839 went to over him in Munson, and then the same time, 0:55:42.880 --> 0:55:43.400 it's more. 0:55:43.960 --> 0:55:45.400 Damn, your mom had a vision. 0:55:45.480 --> 0:55:48.920 Brom didn't really know much about basketball, which which is 0:55:48.960 --> 0:55:51.560 the crazy part. I go to really start learning basketball 0:55:51.600 --> 0:55:54.120 till I got the same time with more. 0:55:54.440 --> 0:55:57.000 Okay, how taught were you like in seventh eighth grade? 0:55:59.520 --> 0:56:03.839 Probably damn? So were you at your Grossbert? I don't 0:56:03.880 --> 0:56:05.120 even think I did. I think I was just big 0:56:05.200 --> 0:56:07.640 always Bro's crazy. 0:56:08.360 --> 0:56:12.440 I mean high school, that's one of your numbers. Was crazy. 0:56:12.520 --> 0:56:17.400 That's when I found out about you. Been since niggas 0:56:17.719 --> 0:56:23.320 seven blocks, Bro. I heard, always watched rivals, was dribbling 0:56:23.320 --> 0:56:25.880 and ship though Yeah, I remember, I'm like this nigga here, 0:56:26.000 --> 0:56:30.640 you want that motherfucker big motherfucking mother put on the college. 0:56:33.440 --> 0:56:34.080 That shot. 0:56:35.520 --> 0:56:40.279 Du that shot you you was you was skinny Ship. 0:56:40.800 --> 0:56:45.160 He was like handling the ship video you you crossing 0:56:45.239 --> 0:56:47.520 niggas and Ship. I'm like, shot the pans. 0:56:47.560 --> 0:56:49.479 I was like, so you started off as a guard 0:56:49.600 --> 0:56:50.600 or they always I was always. 0:56:50.640 --> 0:56:52.200 I was always taught to play every if you watch 0:56:52.320 --> 0:56:53.920 my video or somebody school, always say I want to 0:56:54.040 --> 0:56:54.880 be able to do everything. 0:56:55.440 --> 0:56:56.440 I never want to limit. 0:56:56.360 --> 0:56:59.800 Myself, So I would always play that way. Bring the 0:56:59.840 --> 0:57:03.080 ball past shoot. I love passing, like getting my teammate talking. 0:57:03.160 --> 0:57:05.120 So I need to watch what you. 0:57:05.160 --> 0:57:06.719 Think the best part of your game is though I 0:57:06.840 --> 0:57:08.960 know you the greatest free batter all the time. That's 0:57:09.000 --> 0:57:09.439 what you said. 0:57:10.560 --> 0:57:13.919 Passion, Yeah, definitely good passion for sure. 0:57:14.600 --> 0:57:16.640 The underrated part of your game that I think is 0:57:16.680 --> 0:57:19.640 your ability to steal the ball from guards, Like if 0:57:19.680 --> 0:57:23.040 you watch, like obviously I'm a basketball head, he will 0:57:23.120 --> 0:57:26.120 pick point guards pockets all the time, like they try 0:57:26.160 --> 0:57:27.920 to crossing. I was like a thing I'm from though, 0:57:28.040 --> 0:57:30.240 like in Connecticut, Like if you steal the boss someone's 0:57:30.240 --> 0:57:32.080 second dunk on damn. 0:57:32.320 --> 0:57:34.360 Yeah, Like for me, like I always gotta I gotta 0:57:34.400 --> 0:57:37.240 throw out of that. Yeah, all the people to pick 0:57:37.320 --> 0:57:38.720 everybody and then he. 0:57:40.560 --> 0:57:44.440 Get on a fast break, punch that ship, like get dribbled, 0:57:45.520 --> 0:57:47.440 like if you run out and he's gonna throw it behind. 0:57:47.240 --> 0:57:49.400 His back, like I guarantee it. So how like Luis 0:57:49.440 --> 0:57:49.840 to find it? 0:57:50.560 --> 0:57:52.360 You on a fast break throwing it behind your back, 0:57:52.480 --> 0:57:53.720 going down, punching that bitch. 0:57:53.840 --> 0:57:56.640 I'm like, yeah, did you play with any other pros 0:57:56.640 --> 0:57:57.200 in high school? 0:57:58.320 --> 0:58:05.600 Against against damn it Lee? Okay, that's h steph Yeah, 0:58:05.920 --> 0:58:06.640 shot the name Lee? 0:58:06.880 --> 0:58:09.920 Okay, damn Who was the hardest match up in high 0:58:09.920 --> 0:58:10.680 school that you remember? 0:58:14.000 --> 0:58:16.120 High school? Probably Joe yeah, school. 0:58:17.480 --> 0:58:18.959 I mean I didn't playt nobody. 0:58:19.680 --> 0:58:20.600 Isaiah Austin was up. 0:58:20.720 --> 0:58:26.560 It would be as was hard Jeff Baylor, Yeah, Aaron 0:58:26.720 --> 0:58:28.160 Aaron Gordon played against him too. 0:58:30.600 --> 0:58:32.480 P J, p J. What's broke from? 0:58:33.160 --> 0:58:33.280 Uh? 0:58:34.400 --> 0:58:37.120 Harrison played against him? C J Fair played against him. 0:58:37.520 --> 0:58:41.680 Ja he was wrong high school? 0:58:42.080 --> 0:58:45.480 Well what was that like? Because he was? I tried 0:58:45.480 --> 0:58:48.480 to kill him everything myself. He was bigger than smoke. 0:58:48.600 --> 0:58:50.080 Yeah, he was bigger than him. 0:58:50.440 --> 0:58:55.240 Put your average against Netherlands. You look, that's bro real 0:58:55.320 --> 0:58:56.040 time figure out. 0:58:57.640 --> 0:59:00.480 It was like that though he was. I take you 0:59:00.640 --> 0:59:02.200 though he was he was strong. 0:59:02.360 --> 0:59:05.840 Yeah, he's too strong. This nigga is big as ship. 0:59:05.960 --> 0:59:07.600 Pull was like you walked in here. 0:59:08.840 --> 0:59:11.160 I played against a bunch of time. Like we got 0:59:11.440 --> 0:59:20.400 heard that comment he made he walked here, nigga, Look. 0:59:22.280 --> 0:59:25.320 My god, there's my hand on the ceiling the staircase. 0:59:28.200 --> 0:59:34.280 We all normal, trapped down here, the real trap for show. 0:59:34.880 --> 0:59:36.440 Can't drop the lower d C. 0:59:39.560 --> 0:59:41.680 Show man, Like you said, you're thirteen man with Philly 0:59:41.720 --> 0:59:43.360 Man and I said, I have up and down year, 0:59:43.400 --> 0:59:44.120 especially with injuries. 0:59:44.160 --> 0:59:45.120 Man, But how was it so far? 0:59:45.280 --> 0:59:45.400 Man? 0:59:45.440 --> 0:59:46.520 How you feeling out the city. 0:59:47.320 --> 0:59:50.280 I've been in phil Yeah, put in Philly back from 0:59:50.880 --> 0:59:52.680 after I went to Chicago. Before I went to Chicago, 0:59:52.720 --> 0:59:56.800 excuse me got traded in that Ben Simmons trade to Brooklyn. 0:59:57.160 --> 0:59:59.520 Fame want to let you go that time? No, if 0:59:59.560 --> 1:00:01.560 you're caught. Yeah, the city was mad about that. 1:00:01.760 --> 1:00:03.880 Yeah about that. 1:00:04.600 --> 1:00:07.080 But being back now, it's pretty It's dope. Man. 1:00:07.160 --> 1:00:10.840 I just think injuries are are crutch right now. You 1:00:11.400 --> 1:00:16.960 can't escape it between myself, pg uh Joelle obviously being 1:00:17.000 --> 1:00:20.640 out for another seven to ten days, Jared being out 1:00:20.680 --> 1:00:21.200 for the season. 1:00:21.440 --> 1:00:24.320 That boy is good. He was hoping for he could 1:00:24.320 --> 1:00:25.960 play basketball. He's good. 1:00:26.240 --> 1:00:28.200 Can you speaking on how good is bro? 1:00:28.440 --> 1:00:30.520 Yeah, he's on the tires Max Travers, he's been. 1:00:31.880 --> 1:00:32.280 I love ty. 1:00:32.720 --> 1:00:35.240 I got to see Tyres when he got drafted because obviously, 1:00:35.240 --> 1:00:38.080 like I said, I played with Philly and just seeing 1:00:38.120 --> 1:00:40.880 his growth as a player and as a as a 1:00:40.960 --> 1:00:41.520 point guard. 1:00:42.000 --> 1:00:44.360 Yeah, I'm truly a fan of what he's done. 1:00:44.760 --> 1:00:48.400 He's of course all y'all work hard, but does he 1:00:48.560 --> 1:00:51.360 have like a different type of grind than everybody else. 1:00:51.960 --> 1:00:54.840 He has an incredible work ethic that he works hard 1:00:54.880 --> 1:00:55.520 like he's in the gym. 1:00:55.600 --> 1:00:59.760 For everybody else, he's last to leave shows up hours 1:01:00.040 --> 1:01:01.520 before the game to get his work done. 1:01:01.600 --> 1:01:04.160 So he puts the work in to be great. I 1:01:04.240 --> 1:01:04.880 love this game. 1:01:05.040 --> 1:01:08.040 You think like you played with a lot of point guards. 1:01:08.200 --> 1:01:10.040 We talked about you playing with bigs. Where would you 1:01:10.160 --> 1:01:12.280 rank him as like point guards you play with like 1:01:12.400 --> 1:01:14.400 I think Brandon Jenes is code and all that, But 1:01:15.080 --> 1:01:19.200 where would you put Tyres? He's in the top ten 1:01:19.280 --> 1:01:30.680 for sure? Damn ten, he's probably ten. Hell yeah, that's 1:01:30.760 --> 1:01:32.560 one of the Steph Curry. 1:01:33.400 --> 1:01:35.240 As you asked questions. 1:01:35.760 --> 1:01:36.920 I think. 1:01:39.800 --> 1:01:48.400 He started off with Chauncy Bill. We're at for right now. Uh, 1:01:49.200 --> 1:01:50.000 he gotta be at the. 1:01:50.040 --> 1:02:00.520 Johnson here trying to get the memory going that. Damn 1:02:00.640 --> 1:02:03.240 the we played with all the best person n be 1:02:03.320 --> 1:02:03.560 a bro. 1:02:04.520 --> 1:02:08.720 He has this real ship with brin Kyrie, Change cars 1:02:08.760 --> 1:02:14.320 Are and Joel. Where you put him at your yeah, 1:02:14.720 --> 1:02:20.200 point guard? I think he's a combo guard though him 1:02:20.280 --> 1:02:25.680 of all time though that's a five twenty argument. The 1:02:25.800 --> 1:02:28.560 third slot we're still back and forth between him. 1:02:28.480 --> 1:02:30.600 And the Way League. 1:02:30.640 --> 1:02:31.480 We don't want to put that on. 1:02:31.880 --> 1:02:33.720 Yeah, we're gonna put it. You don't want to be 1:02:33.760 --> 1:02:41.680 in this listen, wait enough ship. We got a lot 1:02:41.760 --> 1:02:42.480 more questions for you. 1:02:42.760 --> 1:02:44.160 But we're gonna wait. You know what I'm saying, We 1:02:44.200 --> 1:02:45.720 do this another time. We like you said, you still 1:02:45.800 --> 1:02:48.480 current players. We won't put no smod put in those situations. Man, 1:02:48.520 --> 1:02:50.800 appreciate that now for sure. But listen, man, we appreciate 1:02:50.840 --> 1:02:51.480 you sliding on this. 1:02:51.600 --> 1:02:51.760 Man. 1:02:51.880 --> 1:02:54.360 Listen man, or which it helps your team. Man, have 1:02:54.440 --> 1:02:56.120 a great rest of your year. Man, keep killing. We 1:02:56.160 --> 1:02:59.880 appreciate you sliding on it. Yes, sorry late. 1:03:01.400 --> 1:03:03.640 That time again because niggas got girls and ship. 1:03:03.680 --> 1:03:11.760 What time is it? What time is it? The realm session? 1:03:12.400 --> 1:03:17.440 Every next time little father twittering? For sure, the volume