The Real Report - Paul Rosenberg & DJ Whoo Kid on Eminem’s rise, 50 Cent & G-Unit era, ICONIC Jay-Z & Dr. Dre stories
Tony Yayo and Uncle Murda sit down with Paul Rosenberg and DJ Whoo Kid to break down the early days of Eminem’s rise, from selling cassette tapes, to making the connection with Dr. Dre, to the Rap Olympics moment that changed everything. The episode dives into the G-Unit era, including Whoo Kid’s time on the road with 50 Cent, the first interviews after 50 was shot, the story behind the “Free Yayo” shirts, and memories classic mixtape culture. Rosenberg and Whoo Kid also debate whether 50 Cent rivaled Eminem’s dominance at his peak and share a behind-the-scenes story about sneaking unreleased Jay-Z music from Jimmy Iovine’s house.
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00:00:00 Speaker 1: Paul Women Yeah, pause his word. 00:00:05 Speaker 2: I don't care, it's still a pause. Liquefying days. Yeah, yeah, that's another that. 00:00:14 Speaker 1: That's what dude anywhere he gets that movies get one. 00:00:38 Speaker 3: Years the Talk of New York Tony. Yeah, yo, you that was dope. This guy on You don't know that was your name because I. 00:00:47 Speaker 4: Was gonna go with the Turbulus Tony, but I was just something new. 00:00:49 Speaker 3: Whatever whatever man whatever man were alcohol up. Can I say my name? I forget my saying that. That's the boy Uncle Murdy jet Lenny. You know the bout we turbinly Tony. Just the real report live from New York City. Make sure y'all like sharing, subscribe. Make some noise for the infamous icon mogul Paul Rosenberg, Shady Aftermath and the infamous one of the best DJs in the world I've seen to do a world wide tune and mixtape. 00:01:19 Speaker 1: He's been there from the beginning. Makes some noise for DJ who. 00:01:26 Speaker 4: Who Yo, yo kid, I can't believe I got this guy, Paul Rosenberg. 00:01:30 Speaker 1: I know, it's like it's like Rick Rubens, like you got a Tupac s. 00:01:34 Speaker 5: I made him come for just for some cover you know, definitely, definitely not. I'm not gonna I'm his lawyers, as our lawyer, I'll defer any questions that I don't really want to answer to. 00:01:43 Speaker 1: Who can look at that? 00:01:45 Speaker 4: Oh not well for me, you know, I'm just glad I got you guys. Here brings back a lot. 00:01:49 Speaker 1: Of to be here. Yeah, congratulations, by the way, thank you. 00:01:55 Speaker 3: Shout to everybody who's watching for value doing great. When I see you, I have flashbacks of me being on the run, like with my brother's passport and we was in Barcelona. 00:02:06 Speaker 5: Called with your brother's passport. Yeah, that's say you violated your probation. 00:02:10 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have my brother's passport right, And I remember being in Barcelona with you guys and cigars. 00:02:16 Speaker 1: And the O and who Kid and were the days? Those were the days? Man? 00:02:22 Speaker 3: You know, shady aftermath people don't you know, they don't know how it feels to be like in the studio with greats like Eminem, doctor Dre and being around guys like you, like how did you meet Eminem? 00:02:34 Speaker 5: I met Eminem through proof? 00:02:36 Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah. 00:02:37 Speaker 5: So when I was in law school in Detroit, I went to University of Detroit Law School. I used to go to the hip hop shop on Saturdays, and it was Maurice Malone's story man, you know Maurice Malone jeans, and so he had his store and they used to clear out all the clothing racks on Saturdays, and they used to have open mics and MC battles and Proof was the manager of the store. If you can believe that, he managed the store and he also would host the battles. So one Saturday, he pulled me aside and he said, yo, I want you to stay after I got a kid. I want you to meet. I want you to to hear him rap. And I was like all right, cool, whatever, and he was like he's a white boy. Because you probably don't know this, but I used to rap. 00:03:24 Speaker 1: Knew me. 00:03:25 Speaker 5: Proof knew me as a rapper, so that's why he was so so he was giving me the business as another white rapper, like I got a white rapper. So I was like cool, you know, happy to meet him. And at the time, like you know, I was supposed to be the guy who's going to be the music lawyer for the hip hop artists in Detroit, right, So I was you know, new Proof and new uh j D. Everybody knows him it's Jay Dilla, right, slum village and all those guys. So I stayed after Proof cleared everybody out, and this kid walks in and at the time, he had like a really really low cut. He was wearing a white sweatsuit, kind of looked like, you know, a little schleppy, you know, a little scrubby, and I was like, all right. Then he goes. You know, Proof was like, yo, throw on, throw on instrumental. So he wrapped and you know, he was good. The you know, heavens didn't part and the Shun's sun didn't shine down, and think it was like the name, so you wasn't coming. I thought he was good, okay, right, I thought he was good. I thought he was good to really good. Did I think he was the best thing? I'd know he wasn't there yet, god right. So little time went on and I used to come back every Saturday, and one Saturday he was there again, and he was selling an album on cassette right hand to hand for six bucks and it was the Infinite Album. Wow, his first album. So I bought it from him for six bucks and again, good, really good, definitely a lot of potential, but it wasn't there yet, right. So I graduated law school and moved to New York, and I stayed in touch with everybody, and in like I think it was probably early ninety seven, I was talking to who used to be my old DJ. There was the same DJ that was spinning the records at the hip hop shop, DJ head, not the same DJ head that everybody knows from LA, a different djhead. And he said, you have to check out the new stuff that Eminem's doing. And I was like, great, but I don't know how to get in touch with him. So he passed me his number and I called him up and I said, Hey, do you remember me? And he said yeah, of course. I said, can you send me the new stuff you're working on? Yeah, I'll send it to you. 00:05:46 Speaker 1: Cool. 00:05:47 Speaker 5: So he mailed it to me. Remember there's no MP three's, no nothing, No, there was email, but you weren't sending files, right, So he sends me this cassette and on it was like just don't give up. Fuck no one zilla a record called slim Shady and just the two of us the early version of it. So it was like the bare bones of what became the Slim Shady EP. 00:06:10 Speaker 1: Wow. 00:06:11 Speaker 5: So then I was like, Okay, pressed, He's got it because he figured out his voice, he figured out his style, he became unique. He wasn't trying to sound like other people at that point, right, so he had he had come into his own. So that's the beginning of the story. Wow of a story. 00:06:30 Speaker 4: We got DJ Kid, one of the biggest DJs in the world, mixtape DJs our dj My guy, what do you feel about the mixtape era versus the streaming era right now? 00:06:41 Speaker 1: What do you like better and what do you feel about it? 00:06:44 Speaker 2: It kind of like works hand in hand because you know, ever since I see a lot of rappers are using my drops, you know, bringing back clue. 00:06:53 Speaker 1: You know, I just did something with. 00:06:55 Speaker 2: They want that energy, right, It's kind of like a you know, unit thing. This is like something that they just like people grow with that. Like it's kind of like, you know, Wu Tang was my energy to grow to who I am. But to these young kids out here, they listen, they listen tour mixtapes, which freaking changed their lives. 00:07:14 Speaker 1: Like people were sold tapes to pay bills, Like. 00:07:18 Speaker 2: I never saw people that. There's so many different stories of survival depression. Uh, some guy didn't commit suicide because of the music, Like you get all these I'm sure you get that a lot with them, and most like it shows how powerful, like there's a difference between music and a movement where it's like global and. 00:07:37 Speaker 1: They like you said, there was no Internet, there was nothing like to for us to. 00:07:40 Speaker 2: Be global with no social media, no no real YouTube like off, that's crazy. 00:07:47 Speaker 1: And back then it was like what Biggie Tupac that was global? 00:07:50 Speaker 2: And then fifty came out with this amazing story that got us to this guy, like how what was that? What was the system when fifty cents the future was? It was it sodom Are got the tape and then gave it. 00:08:01 Speaker 5: Yeah, so THEO is representing him and he was like, you know, you need to check this out. And I was, you know, blown away by it. That was like right out of the gate. You heard the tape before him, Yeah, okay, yeah. 00:08:12 Speaker 1: So then I. 00:08:13 Speaker 5: Passed it to Marshall and at the time he was he was working on his album, plus we were doing eight Mile right wow, so he had a lot going on. But got him to focus on it and he was like, yo, I really like this and he was like, I don't know, you know, do you think we should We could do this on our own, And at the time, I think we just had D twelve and maybe O Wei signed to the label, and we just thought because of the help we would need on production and sort of the you know, base of credibility, that it would add to to bring it to Dre. So we brought it to Dre and he was like, okay, let's you know, we got to meet him, right. So we were doing the release party for for Marshall's album and we flew him out there to l A fifty and I remember we were in the studio and we were actually doing I think some of the mix downs for the film, like the ad Man film. Yeah, on on the big sound stage, and uh, he came by. Dre came by and you know, fifties talked about it. He saw Dre's Ferrari and got super inspired. 00:09:32 Speaker 1: Fifty Yeah. 00:09:34 Speaker 5: So so you know, we met with him and and just sort of hit it off and did the deal. 00:09:41 Speaker 1: Definitely come on, you be on Shapeful five. 00:09:48 Speaker 5: You know, my brother answering it. 00:09:54 Speaker 3: You guys who kids, tell me how you do it on the road, because you I always called who can the pizzol mask? 00:10:00 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. 00:10:01 Speaker 3: How do you like when we're going to Italy, how do you have a girl automatically in the room or that's how do you do like you know, like good time. 00:10:11 Speaker 2: The clean cup version is like I was involved with creating an amazing situation with the shows. 00:10:17 Speaker 1: So it's either you. Your fifty cent was always first. 00:10:20 Speaker 2: Back then, we were and we had no we had no you know, you know, it's like it goes up and down, like who's got the trickle down? 00:10:27 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was number three, like Banks was number two, and this guy he was locked up. 00:10:32 Speaker 2: I was give me that at that at that point, yeah he was. He wasn't around like in the beginning of the moisture days, you know. 00:10:39 Speaker 1: So yeah, but it's like they always crazy. I never, I never had issues women. 00:10:47 Speaker 2: Yeah, I. 00:10:51 Speaker 1: Don't care. 00:10:52 Speaker 2: There's still a pause liquefying days. Yeah, yeah, that's another pour. Anyway, it was it was always easy for me to get women because I was the you know, I was behind pause fifty was performing, so they always the visuals was just too crazy. 00:11:18 Speaker 1: So uh yeah, I've always had like women in the room. 00:11:21 Speaker 2: I don't know why it was they called me Captain saber Hole because I alwould make sure to get home. 00:11:26 Speaker 1: You know, I'm the guy that's like, why are you doing this? You could do better? You're beautiful kid. Was like one of the funniest guys on the road. 00:11:33 Speaker 3: Like there's so many stories, good times and I feel like, you know, the money to cross, the jewelry, the good times with you guys, you admit, like I. 00:11:40 Speaker 2: Tell people this story all the time. When I first met them, I had to go. This is after fifty got shot, so for me to get my interview, you know, I had to go meet fifty. But all of them was there, Yale banks, every guns, everywhere was it? It was in shot Money's basement. 00:11:56 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:11:57 Speaker 2: So I walked down there and it's funny because outside had this dirty ass van like what was. 00:12:02 Speaker 4: That Chrystler dogs no a c like run it was run down. 00:12:08 Speaker 1: Run down. 00:12:08 Speaker 2: And then you get down there and it's like not really crazy lit, but you see the vests, you see the guns everywhere. 00:12:14 Speaker 1: You think it's like, this is real, this is real. 00:12:16 Speaker 5: You turn around and leave. I wanted to, but you know, to get the interview. 00:12:20 Speaker 2: Who I never met these guys, you know, so can you can you tell me what was your first reaction because when I saw you, it felt like you wanted to rob me, because I don't know I really did. 00:12:30 Speaker 1: No, I mean I didn't want to rob. I never wanted to run. 00:12:34 Speaker 2: Banks had an attitude. He wasn't talking to nobody because he was conservative. You look like you would have what you wanted to rob me. You know what I'm saying. 00:12:42 Speaker 4: I don't think it looked like a robber who was always my boy. 00:12:46 Speaker 1: But you know what I think because of the situation, the situation we're in, like high alert, so I think you just was not trying to. 00:12:54 Speaker 3: Hear because fifty situation kind of turned into our situation. It was told us like if you ain't ready for what's going one know, and I don't want you to get heart to be around, which is smart, it's cool, but you know. 00:13:05 Speaker 2: But that's why the infamous question when he said, I asked you three questions and then he asked me, what would you do? 00:13:10 Speaker 1: Like I come at me with a UZZI like are you good? And I told him out of here, I don't know you, like I just met this guy. So he was just like, you know what, you're hired because you didn't tell me. 00:13:20 Speaker 2: Yeah, you didn't tell me you could have jump in and shoot you know other you know, every every jud loser in the hood with with the fake tasks would tell Fifty what he wants to hear. But now he understands like who's around him? Like Fifty was such a like he calculated every every movement, like all right, if who kids at this moment don't really know who I am, I know how to move now, you know, which is is kind of crazy after he told me this, But I think being truthful, I don't need to be gangster. I came from like you know, DJing for CNN and my deep seeing shootouts with them cash money. 00:13:55 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:13:56 Speaker 4: The first person that DJ foard because he just came around, I didn't know. 00:14:01 Speaker 1: I thought he just DJ. And you never even spoke about that. I don't think. 00:14:06 Speaker 4: I don't think a lot of people see in them that you was with Chris Lighty at that time. 00:14:11 Speaker 1: So you know, I had to find my way. 00:14:13 Speaker 2: You know, Chris Lighty was my mentor and Russell so for me to get I'm queen, so I'm in Hollege to Springfield. DJ Clue was a block away. It was so much queens and and and you know, ship going on that, you know, me robbing the industry. 00:14:27 Speaker 1: I learned from Clue. You know what I'm saying. So you learned from Clue. 00:14:32 Speaker 4: I remember Yo re MEMBERY I had. I remember Pol's wedding, which was crazy. 00:14:37 Speaker 5: It was like you were at the feature DJ. 00:14:40 Speaker 1: Yeah, features DJ. 00:14:41 Speaker 5: It was DJ A like he was like DJ and move out of the way. 00:14:45 Speaker 1: Was crazy play sexy Back. 00:14:47 Speaker 5: I do think it was crazy sexy Back twenty times in a row. 00:14:51 Speaker 3: So Paul comes up to me. He says, YAO, this is you know who this guy is? He passed away right and rest in peace. To p he was like this DJ am He said, you know how much I'm paying this guy? 00:15:02 Speaker 2: Bro? 00:15:03 Speaker 1: And what you mean you wasn't happy with him? 00:15:06 Speaker 5: Well, I had a great DJ that was supposed to be there for the party, and Yo decided to get on the tables. 00:15:14 Speaker 1: To tell Yo to get off the DJ. 00:15:16 Speaker 5: Yeah, I got the DJ in the world here. 00:15:19 Speaker 1: What do you do? Got you the greatest DJs in the world. I didn't realize it. You just having fun drinks. 00:15:29 Speaker 5: He was playing sexy Back over and over and over again. 00:15:33 Speaker 1: Sounds like it was a. 00:15:36 Speaker 5: Big record at the time, don't get me wrong. 00:15:38 Speaker 3: And I fell wild because I know DJ am Rest in Peace wanted to slap me in my head. 00:15:44 Speaker 4: So it was like this, I didn't even realize how how big of a. 00:15:47 Speaker 5: DJ was, like DJs, you know, I mean you got to remember, like fifty was there, Dre was there, Jimmy was there, the guys were there, like you know, all my clients were there and Yo on the so you. 00:16:00 Speaker 6: Had to leave your wife and let Yeah, you know, he was doing a little bit too wanted he wanted smack people I had. 00:16:07 Speaker 5: I had to shut him down, all right, got you got in a very nice well. 00:16:13 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, ship my bad. 00:16:15 Speaker 4: I was just always over excited because I came out of jail and I always. 00:16:19 Speaker 5: Give Jimmy Ivan was there, he was like, is that is that who? 00:16:22 Speaker 1: Kids? 00:16:23 Speaker 5: Was like, no, oh, I know, Tony, Yeah. 00:16:28 Speaker 1: I'll swear to go out. 00:16:29 Speaker 3: My wildless experience was eating and eating on top of the Scope balcony and it was fifty, me and Jimmy Ivien and it was it was. 00:16:38 Speaker 4: I didn't say a thing. I just sat there just always let the bullses talk. 00:16:43 Speaker 1: What did you eat? 00:16:43 Speaker 5: Though you're famous for your for yours, you. 00:16:46 Speaker 1: Know, it's crazy. 00:16:46 Speaker 4: I don't know what we ate, but it was Jimmy Ivian so it was good food, some type of exacty. 00:16:51 Speaker 1: It was all right, got you. 00:16:52 Speaker 3: It was a funny moment because I remember Jimmy saying, fifty we're back cool, I can put your plack back on the wall. 00:17:00 Speaker 1: I was just laugh. 00:17:00 Speaker 4: I just I just sat there laugh because I just watched the bosses be the bosses. That's why I appreciate you guys taking time to come out here. 00:17:08 Speaker 6: You know what I wanted to actually, how did the whole process of the free Yal search went with eminem That's all because this guy was legend w with that. 00:17:18 Speaker 1: How did that whole process come over tho? 00:17:20 Speaker 5: It became a slogan right that everybody was saying, and you know, we all wanted to see him free like it was genuine right. So when we did the it was the Grammys, Marshall performed Lose Yourself with the Grammys with the Roots and he wore the free AO shirt that we had made up. 00:17:39 Speaker 1: Definitely shout to trace Mark. What did that? 00:17:42 Speaker 5: What was that like for you? 00:17:44 Speaker 1: I mean you was in jail at that. 00:17:46 Speaker 2: I was. 00:17:46 Speaker 3: I was in C seventy three two while and that was the most amazing thing in my life. Like it because they could have forgot about me. 00:17:54 Speaker 1: I was in jail. 00:17:56 Speaker 4: You know, it's it's music business. 00:17:57 Speaker 6: But to me it always felt like I probably wuld got about you, but god, yeah. 00:18:01 Speaker 3: I know, but it was like it always for me when we came into business, it always felt like a family. With with with Shady Aftermath who kid violated, always felt like a family to me. 00:18:15 Speaker 1: So when he wore that and I'm locked down, you. 00:18:17 Speaker 3: Know, shout to Tracy, you know, did a whole bunch of stuff for me though, Shady send me stuff, fifty send me stuff. 00:18:23 Speaker 1: So for me, I just I felt good. 00:18:25 Speaker 3: And then I'm on Rikers so you know you got to ask people, yo, can we use can I watched this because you know they might want to fight a stab. 00:18:32 Speaker 1: You over the TV. Prisoners react to that. It was good. That was big. 00:18:36 Speaker 3: That's when they wanted to kind of like put me in PC on Rikers Island was getting shipped out. 00:18:40 Speaker 4: Yeah, because people started to know, you know, but that was that was big. 00:18:45 Speaker 3: Shady called me, you know, and people from Shady called me and it was like, yo, m one wear the shirt. I was like, Wow, you're gonna do something special. The didn't tell me what it was. And then the free Aal shirt came about. 00:18:58 Speaker 1: For that, I mean, did we say, oh man? I mean, I gotta check on he got bootleg like crazy. 00:19:07 Speaker 5: Who kid was probably selling more than anybody who. 00:19:09 Speaker 1: Came on here with a bootleg eminem shirt on right now and with Paul got crazy. 00:19:16 Speaker 5: I promise you we did not make that. 00:19:18 Speaker 1: This guy is crazy right here. It's a kinky d. I thought I was coming in. I see Paul. 00:19:27 Speaker 4: I was like, that's crazy to be that's crazy. What's your favorite in the mixed tape? 00:19:33 Speaker 1: I got a automatic gunfire. That's what we killed one one day. Best that was in the studio, that was crazy. 00:19:41 Speaker 2: The best jar skits were like and shout out. I don't want to snitch him out, but he did all the skits. He's like a big executive right now, isn't that crazy? 00:19:49 Speaker 1: A huge executive. I don't know who you're talking about this the real report. 00:19:53 Speaker 2: You got to talk on heim who did the skits? 00:19:56 Speaker 1: You know did it? 00:19:57 Speaker 2: Well? 00:19:58 Speaker 1: His name was Riggs. I don't know if this is a real they you never do that. 00:20:02 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, well I heard which ones? 00:20:04 Speaker 1: You got the Rigs was shout. We never we never shot because because he was like in the labels, you know, he was an R. 00:20:16 Speaker 2: So it's like the easiest gotta beat up would be Riggs. So we just I never released that information. It's too late. 00:20:22 Speaker 5: Now he's like he did a bunch of skits. He just kids with alchemists too. Yeah, let me ask you a question when you came out, right, because I remember the day you came out. First of all, you looked crazy, Your eyes were wild. People were throwing jewelry on you, stuffing money in your pockets, giving you fur coats and ship like watch. 00:20:45 Speaker 1: He should have got down with us. What did that feel like? 00:20:49 Speaker 5: I felt like. 00:20:51 Speaker 3: You could never get a hot like that again. Because I'm I'm I'm in the shock program. At this point, we sounded with eminem like even the first fifty Son. I remember being in THEO office and that's when Crystal was like popping and it was on the phone and I think it was me, fifty Smurf, somebody else and Banks maybe I think Banks was there too at that time, but it was only a couple of of us, you know, Theo's office, and was on the phone and he was like yo, were about to do it, were about to sign he signed Crystal Pop and like, I just remember everything. 00:21:26 Speaker 5: So for me And then how many days later were you locked up? 00:21:29 Speaker 3: Remember I was on the run for a good while because I never wanted to go to jail. I was like, well, I'm gonna go to jail. We signed with Eminem, you know what I mean, doctor dre. 00:21:39 Speaker 5: Shape within a few months, right. 00:21:41 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like yeah, probably within a few months. 00:21:43 Speaker 1: Would you say it was been like a year. You got caught at uh the infamous with that Spanish because you got to go, you got cook the band. And when I came back to New York, that's when I got caught up. 00:21:56 Speaker 3: If I would have stayed out of New York, like been overseas with you guys and I didn't know, I would have been good forever. 00:22:01 Speaker 2: Well's is it safe to say that? Because he was cool with being on the run. Is when he heard Eminem is gonna be in Barcelona, he. 00:22:10 Speaker 1: Was like fuck that. He took his brother's passport. It took the opportunity to hang out with him. 00:22:18 Speaker 5: So it got you out, but it didn't get you back. 00:22:22 Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy? That was crazy? 00:22:24 Speaker 3: Somebody from the office. I'm not gonna say, yeah, oh my god, my first day getting out. They put the passport in the paperwork, and I'm so excited you had the steakhouse for me night. 00:22:34 Speaker 1: Wow. 00:22:37 Speaker 4: I don't want to say no. The name, I don't want to say. I don't want to say we just made who get. 00:22:44 Speaker 1: Okay? 00:22:49 Speaker 3: Okay, they put that, they put the passport and they mistakenly mistake. Okay, I faced my brother's name. So it's kind of idiot. Moved all right, gotch you you know what I mean. Passport was no good. So I'm so excited. I'm not looking even in the paperwork. I'm just like, fuck it, going to parole. Got much chain for music, shit going feeling good, Thanks. 00:23:10 Speaker 1: For going on. 00:23:11 Speaker 3: Ain't no click albums are selling eminem out of here, and mind you, we're selling hard copies. It's not that's why it's about the mixtape for streaming, because we were selling hard copies. 00:23:23 Speaker 1: What'd you think about that? Poorly the mixtape, like the hard copies versus streaming and all that. 00:23:28 Speaker 5: And then well, I'll tell you what this you're streaming saved the music industry because if you recall around twenty fifteen, right when streaming was starting, people weren't buying albums, right, everybody was getting stuff for free and there was no streaming, so there was no money pouring into the business at all. Right, Wow, So all of a sudden streaming comes along. People start getting used to the idea that they can pay ten bucks a month or whatever it was to get everything the whole hit story of recorded music right at their fingertips. So it's really you're paying for the convenience of not having to download music, put it into iTunes, make sure it's labeled correctly, make your playlist like, you don't have to do any of that. It's all right there, right, So people were it turns out we're willing to pay ten bucks a month for that convenience and for that service. And you know, when before we had people buying CDs maybe you know, every other month or you know, five times a year. 00:24:28 Speaker 1: Crack, you got to go bottom CD again if you really like it. 00:24:31 Speaker 5: Yeah, but they weren't. 00:24:32 Speaker 1: They weren't. 00:24:32 Speaker 5: They weren't buying one every month necessarily. But now you know, you have people locked in to pay that ten I think now it's twelve, ninet nine whatever. It is a month, right, right, and people kept adopting it. Streaming numbers went up and up and up, the audience grew, and all of a sudden, the industry is making money again, right, So it saved the music industry. And you know, at the time, before streaming, the music industry revenue had decreased to fifty percent of what it was. Most industries don't survive that. You can't survive a fifty percent decrease in revenue. But somehow, you know, they held together and the major label stayed together and they made it through. So it really saved things in a lot of ways. And I know people complain about what the arming rate paid. They get paid off, but the same people complaining about that weren't really selling CDs either. 00:25:33 Speaker 1: Fact. Oh, look at that. That's crazy. That's a hard fact right there. 00:25:36 Speaker 5: So of course the artists who are the biggest are going to make the most money because they are listened to the most. You know, is it entirely equitable? Could it be better? Probably? But it's not terrible? 00:25:48 Speaker 1: Got you. 00:25:50 Speaker 2: I saw an interview the other day with a what's the name from Black Eyed Peas. 00:25:54 Speaker 5: I know, easy for me to say, right, but still was. 00:25:58 Speaker 1: From Black Eyed Peas. 00:26:00 Speaker 6: If you broke it down, I think people going to find that you broke it down right this I think I'm definitely like that. 00:26:05 Speaker 1: So will i Am. 00:26:06 Speaker 2: The other day he was like, I think when he first met Jimmy, he was like, you know, maybe one day you would be one of these artists. So he compared eminem as the guy that keeps the building on. But when you found fifty cent, was that like another like jackpot? 00:26:22 Speaker 5: It was it was lightning striking twice in the same place, and that doesn't happen. But it happened. Lightning struck twice in the same place. I mean, there was there was a moment where I mean, I'll say it, fifty was bigger than Marshall was. Wow, there was a moment that that happened, and you know we were thrilled because you know, fifty was was our artists, of course, but that kind of success and that level of popularity and sort of worldwide notoriety doesn't happen twice in the same place. 00:27:01 Speaker 1: You know, how did you and m hook up with Dre? How did that connection? 00:27:05 Speaker 5: Like first thought, Yeah, so Marshall was out in La doing something called the Rap Olympics, and it was it was a rap battle put together by Wendy Day from the Rap Coalition, Okay, and this was in ninety seven, I believe, and they were putting teams together and Wendy had her her Rap Olympics team and they were going to battle in you know, different teams, which is why they called it the Olympics. But then there was also an individual battle and Marshall entered the individual battle. He got up all the way to the finals and he lost to a dude from La named Otherwise and he sort of was, you know, a hometown favorite and Marshall choked a little bit. This is all really well documented. So afterwards he was really depressed because the grand prize the battle was like a Rolex and five hundred dollars, which at. 00:28:03 Speaker 1: The time that's crazy. 00:28:05 Speaker 5: He was being evicted. He didn't he didn't have you know, two Nichols to rub together and that would have, you know, changed things for him. So he was he was upset. He was at the bar. I was with him, and these dudes came up and they were like, yo, do you have any music? We really liked you know, what you were doing up there, and so he had, you know, a promo copy of the Slim Shady EP, and he gave each one of them a copy, two different guys. One of the guys his name is Dean Geislinger. He worked in Jimmy's office, he was one of his assistants. And then another guy worked in Tom Wally's office, and his name was Evan Bogart. So I stayed in touch with those guys that got their number. And as things started to continue to develop and Marshall's buzz grew, we put together a trip for him to come out to LA to meet with labels. And I may have guessed the story up a little bit right, and I said, I said, yeah, you know, Marshall's going out. We're we're about to close the deal with whoever sony. I can't remember what I said. If you guys want to take a meeting, you know it's going to be your last opportunity. So Dean and Evan finally had the the courage to bring Marshall's music to their bosses. And you know, Dean brought it to Jimmy and he said, you know, there's this kid. I've been checking him out and following him. I really think you should. You should check it out. They have a deal on the table, which we didn't, but good one. 00:29:30 Speaker 6: I ow man worked out, looking worked out, It worked out, worked out. 00:29:35 Speaker 5: So Jimmy brought the cassette with him home and he used to listen to music in his gym when he was working out. And Dre was over there one weekend and he was going through, you know, his bag of tapes and he saw Eminem's and he was like, who's this And Jimmy said, oh, you know, it's this kid, one of the guys. 00:29:53 Speaker 1: Gave to me. 00:29:54 Speaker 5: You should check it out. So Dre takes the tape home, listens to it, realizes that he was famili with it because he heard Marshall when he was in town doing the rap Olympics rhyming on the wake up show. 00:30:05 Speaker 1: It's crazy. 00:30:06 Speaker 5: Didn't know who he was, didn't know he was white, but thought he was good. Heard the tape and he was like, oh shit, this is the guy I heard on the radio. So he went back to Jimmy and he said, bring him out here. 00:30:18 Speaker 1: I like that. Look at that, and that was it. That's crazy. Who can you remember going to Jimmy Alvien house. That's how I got caught what because I was hiding. 00:30:29 Speaker 5: I told part earlier like what he said that he was running around hiding because we were all looking for him because he was stealing everybody's music and releasing it early. We were upset with how that's how his mixtapes, aside from the fact that he had the exclusive fifty cent freestyles, he would get music early and put him on these mixtapes. 00:30:50 Speaker 1: I mean, you know how I did it. I would wait. It was really like Ocean's eleven, so I knew all like right track and all the like you know, Chun King. I knew all the king. 00:30:58 Speaker 2: He brought it back the engineers, so all the engineers will call me and be like, oh, jay Z got a block from twelve to six. I know jay Z ain't gonna be there all night. He'll probably leave at four. So I'll get there like two AM, and I park and see Memphis Leak everybody coming out of Beanie and once they come. 00:31:14 Speaker 1: Out, see yup, see yup, four hundred dollars. But what they do is they record the whole session. 00:31:22 Speaker 2: So even when jay Z's talking everything, do it over fuck him, it records. So I just got to go through you know the DAT that's old school too, don't matter. N you gotta go get. 00:31:34 Speaker 5: Walked out of the studio with a DAT for five hundred dollars and you didn't know what was on it. 00:31:39 Speaker 1: Yeah I would. I would take it and go through the whole thing. There you go DJ's secrets. 00:31:44 Speaker 2: Right Christ And then you know, there's there's so many dats that I heard, real conversations. 00:31:49 Speaker 1: If I leave those conversations, I wouldn't be alive today. You still have those? Yeah, somewhere I have the old old dads. We could definitely use some of those for the real point. But we know everything. Course it's so good. He got a nice check. Shout out to the value. 00:32:06 Speaker 5: He's the first DJ that I ever saw people ought a Lamborghini off of mixtapes. You remember that he had a yellow Lamborghini. 00:32:15 Speaker 1: I used to put the tapes in the front. 00:32:17 Speaker 5: And he sell mixtapes as his income and sold enough mixtapes and made enough money off the mixtape game to buy a lambing game. 00:32:26 Speaker 1: Look at that. 00:32:27 Speaker 5: That's crazy. 00:32:27 Speaker 1: I never cared about the seven checks. I was like, he wasn't really on there too long. Yeah, don't pay him over there. He didn't kid. 00:32:41 Speaker 2: That's why I was because you know, thank god he heard me one day whiling out, I did crackhead Mondays and then I had Bobby Brown call up, but he didn't know it was crackhead Mondays. So Paul was dying in the car and then he's like, this guy got it. He got to be a host on the channel they were about to buy. So that's how I got hired. 00:32:58 Speaker 4: But you know how I did radio on the radio was the best that was classic classic hip hop at that point. 00:33:06 Speaker 1: Believe it. When Clue left Hot, that's how I got that Monday spot. I definitely remember that. But r ip Chris Lidi. 00:33:13 Speaker 2: The way I leaked, like any record, like if I did a song with fifty, like the Big N fifty or the two Pack fifty. The Big N fifty was like the more like, you know, if I get caught, they'll kill my ass. So what I did is when Flex gets off, I waited. My show was ten to eleven, right, so at ten fifty five I set it up where I press played, but my brother had the car running downstairs, and there's always like a secret elevator high night seven. If you gotta get beat up, you take it, you know, like or whoever's outside waiting and they beat up the DJ. But I played the song There's a back Secret elevated and skate out, So ten fifty five to eleven, I play big in fifty realist Killers. 00:33:55 Speaker 1: So I'm gone, I'm not. Yeah. 00:33:59 Speaker 2: So you know Diddy whatever his name, puff whatever, he's in the can you imagine your puff daddy? You never heard a biggie verse like you. 00:34:11 Speaker 1: I remember with that record. I remember that. 00:34:13 Speaker 4: I'm was like, where did that record even come from? That was crazy from never. 00:34:17 Speaker 1: Even heard that biggie verse? 00:34:18 Speaker 5: Where did you get it? 00:34:20 Speaker 1: You told me that this this the same way from that's from? 00:34:26 Speaker 2: Just like so the thing is, I would just I would steal the dats because you know, I think before that. 00:34:33 Speaker 1: Record get clear, it got clear. 00:34:36 Speaker 2: It was. 00:34:38 Speaker 5: Before you said you were saying engineers. Then you just said you stole them, which which is it? 00:34:43 Speaker 2: So paying is when I go to the studio and then I and then I and I paid to get the recorded session. Stealing is I go? You thank god you had shady records, so you have to really physically be there. 00:34:58 Speaker 5: Yeah, we had that ship. 00:34:59 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was locked down. 00:35:00 Speaker 5: He weren't allowed there anyway. 00:35:01 Speaker 1: Shady Records was like, yeah, he wasn't allowed. 00:35:04 Speaker 2: Oh bro, when I had to, it's like going to the Vatican. I had to take off my phones, passport everything because. 00:35:12 Speaker 1: You had. 00:35:15 Speaker 5: We called him listen, we called him Scooby Doo all right, because every time you said something, he'd be like. 00:35:22 Speaker 1: It is on a Russian website. 00:35:25 Speaker 5: I got him from a Scooby Doo is not allowed in the building. 00:35:30 Speaker 1: Period from from music. 00:35:31 Speaker 2: But but Shady Records, they they had a separate entity, so I couldn't go in there. But Universal Sony Uh Warner Brothers. 00:35:40 Speaker 1: I just go up there. Who's up there? The Mexican lady vacuum me. I looked. I know racism, but I look like a black an R. So I just walked. 00:35:47 Speaker 3: I go to everybody room. I remember this murk. Back then, it was a tight system. So you noticed like a lot of Eminem fifty records, Doctor dre them things really. 00:35:55 Speaker 1: Wasn't getting leaked like hell. 00:35:58 Speaker 3: The hardest to get that was crazy because that's when records were exclusive. I love streaming, but back then a record was exclusive. You might have one DJ that has this record. First he used to he gonna rocket for what I learned that from Blue. 00:36:13 Speaker 1: You know, so wait, you. 00:36:14 Speaker 5: Would walk around the offices and go in people's offices and steal thats so because nobody locked the offices. 00:36:20 Speaker 2: So I looked like a black A and R. I would dress like that. I would wear like a button up. I looked like I went to church, but I looked like those cornyer rs they had up there. And I just walk around and then the Mexican lady vacuum and she looks at me and Poppy mimmy whatever. And I'd be like, and then I just go and I'm there all night. I'll turn the light on and then all you know, how you have the dat's packed up. All I got to do is see oh Beyonce featuring Q Tip. 00:36:43 Speaker 1: I'll just take that. 00:36:44 Speaker 2: Anything has a feature. But back then R and B ran the world, like hip hop needed R and B to live, like jay Z and all them. They had to like ride off of R and B. You know, until we came and changed the whole algorithm where hip hop is here to stay. 00:36:57 Speaker 1: But back then everything was R and B. 00:36:59 Speaker 2: So if you go to Sony, I would just wait to see feature in j That's how I got the shot day in jay Z's on so I'll see jay Z shot. 00:37:06 Speaker 1: They take that so out of courtesy. Out of courtesy, I would record it was out here stealing these records. 00:37:13 Speaker 5: But sometimes I'll just take lock your offices. 00:37:15 Speaker 1: That lock your office. Yea, this is it right here. You just hold it, wait four or five months. And I just did that with Dre. Dre go take a leak. 00:37:27 Speaker 2: I'm like hurrying out trying to get this song from Dre, and I just leave it. Like a year later, I saw Dre at Super Bowl. He's like, Yo, the fucking guy. J I tried to Yo, this is a true story. Shout the Curtis Curtis saved my life in Super Bowl. I tried to you know, when jay Z was coming. 00:37:44 Speaker 1: Through, they have a what you call Bloe Curtis battle Big Curtis. Yeah, Big Curtis. You know he's the production for super Bowl. Somebody's trying to get Curtis. 00:37:53 Speaker 2: No. 00:37:53 Speaker 1: So when jay Z comes through that somebody with a blowhorn be like Jayson coming through, like. 00:37:57 Speaker 2: You know, so they clear the you know, the the area. You know where we were at with the you know, all of us had our own like cubicle. 00:38:04 Speaker 1: Yeah. So when Jay walks through, they just scream it. So he just walks through. 00:38:08 Speaker 2: So it was too far to get to M's joint or fifties room, so I would jay Z would have seen me. So I tried to like hide behind Curtis because Curtis is like twenty feet tall. 00:38:19 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So I'm hiding by Curtis. 00:38:22 Speaker 2: And Anderson Pack was like, you are right. I was like, bro, just give it like five bays. Once he passed by it, then I'll just was I at the M and M's room, Nobody's gonna touch me. 00:38:29 Speaker 1: You know, I'm good. 00:38:31 Speaker 2: If I go to fifty room, nobody's definitely not gonna touch me because you know the issues with him and Jay. So all I hear I turned around and I heard yo, that's who kid over there hiding behind Curtis. And then jay Z's like yo, ma. I was like what, so Dre's coming at the same time. That's why I got it on video. And then you can see like, oh he robbed you too. 00:38:51 Speaker 1: Oh here's Drake. Oh he robbed you too. J Ya. I was like, this is get it out of head. That was on jay Z fifty two Super Super Bowl. 00:39:02 Speaker 5: Yeah, Kendrick and Marshall, this guy and Mary J. 00:39:06 Speaker 1: Blige. First of all, thank you because you know, thanks to this guy, I'm reading anybody podcast. Gotcha? 00:39:15 Speaker 5: Okay, So imagine lighted the Thief. We know better now, okay, ship laying around? 00:39:21 Speaker 1: All right? Got you? Okay, all right? Got you? Got you know what imagine during COVID and you're I'm good. Now you could put Eminem's on right here. 00:39:31 Speaker 5: I'm like, I learned because you know he'll get fired. 00:39:35 Speaker 1: I stole enough that I came up. I'm good. I don't need to do it though. Boy. 00:39:39 Speaker 5: Plus, the game is different, right, the game is different. Spe Civity doesn't exist once records out there, it's everywhere everywhere. Back then, it was on your mixtape. You were the only it was the only place. 00:39:50 Speaker 1: Because you get to talk over it. Certain things, your d you say, little things. 00:39:55 Speaker 5: Can take it. But by the time they put their mixtape together and they got that there, like everybody's already brought who kids and it was the only place. 00:40:01 Speaker 1: To get it. 00:40:01 Speaker 2: And I was like, if I stole Uncle Murders like some song he did like months ago, I won't tell Uncle Murder what I'll do I'll put it out and if he has the title, I'll change the title. So I'll even trick the public. So I'll call it like kill a Nigga remix Uncle Murder, like. 00:40:17 Speaker 1: A different name. That's my DJ. Clue is like you know, Clue is everything. 00:40:23 Speaker 2: Man. Back then, if you oh, we got Clue, we don't need your tape, We're good. I had to find a way to fucking bypass him, like I got. 00:40:31 Speaker 1: Some ship, Clue don't got. 00:40:32 Speaker 3: I feel like I feel like Clue stopped the because it was all about mixtape, like the blends, like you had Grandma, yeah, dog time, and then when you came to Clue, he was just it was it changed into exclusives, just playing the exclusive record on this. 00:40:47 Speaker 2: I mean he leaked Biggie, he leaked one more chance, biggiess biggest record. One verse in the hook is all a DJ would need. Biggie went on high Night, So it was like, who is this guy? I'm ready to kill him right now. 00:40:58 Speaker 1: That's so that made it's like adrenaline rush. I want him to try to kill me. Like because back then, like I said, popping's no social media. 00:41:07 Speaker 2: So imagine you're like a street legend with a rumor like that, like Biggie's looking for you. Everybody's talking about that with no YouTube nothing, So that makes you like you're in the system. 00:41:18 Speaker 1: That's why there's only like five top DJs. 00:41:19 Speaker 2: You can say like you can say me, you can say like Envy, you can say like you know Drama, you can say like case le RP the Dead, like we're part of that system. 00:41:28 Speaker 1: The fact that in the DNA of everybody that's. 00:41:31 Speaker 4: Hip hopped out because before that it was Grand Master Vig, you had dog Chime. 00:41:35 Speaker 1: Everybody was more doing blends, you know what I'm saying. And then Clue was already Harry, Yeah, he was the first dude to play this. 00:41:44 Speaker 3: Yep, he was the first dude to start kind of playing exclusive because I was a fan of wrong G. 00:41:50 Speaker 1: Classic you know hip hop. 00:41:52 Speaker 2: I mean Kickapri did the first, like did the Bad Boys stuff back in the days, and then that's why it made me like get into it. But Clue was my clue, lift blocks away from me, so I had. 00:42:01 Speaker 5: To get it all you queens, guys, jeans baby broke. Let me ask you this though, because now the DJ is like all the names you're talking about you're all as a kid say, you're all unks now? Oh yeah, And I love that term, by the way, it's so much better than being old. But it's respectful, right of course. Anyway, I digress. So, all these all these older DJs, where are the new ones? Where's the new kids? Because like when we have Shade forty five and we're looking at like, okay, we got some space, we want to hire somebody new. There's no new who kids, right, there's no new kids doing that to get But you know, but at a point you started popping, you know, twenty years ago, right when you were when you were much younger. Where is the young guys that are popping now? 00:42:58 Speaker 1: Is it? 00:42:58 Speaker 5: Is it even fees the ball or is it a desirable thing for them to want to be a DJ? 00:43:04 Speaker 1: It's so easy, gay, but it's so easy to get the music. It's hard. 00:43:08 Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels like now there's a lot of good music out there, but it feels like it's microwave music. 00:43:13 Speaker 1: So it's like that's true, like. 00:43:15 Speaker 3: When you look at eminem, you look at Snoop Dogg, you look at Dre. To me, it's timeless music. So if we go to Apple, you're gonna see eminem is still Spotify, he's still number one, still fifties, number one on YouTube. To me, it's timeless music, I think, well who Kid did is timeless, like the mixtapes we did. I remember like it's started from the first one to the second one and everywhere we went to when we go to Jamaica Avenue, the Coliseum block recipes to the Colesee inbox two with we go to Hot Wax, Me and Banks was like, stars are ready, everybody you know who Kid was a star already? Like I was happy with just that in the beginning because it was big what he did in the streets. So for me, I don't think too many DJs could just replicate that time and do that case. 00:44:04 Speaker 5: So the time is different and it's more probably more lucrative for guys with personalities and that kind of drive to do other things right right, And those are probably the YouTubers and the social media guys, right, those are the big Like a guy like Drew Ski he could probably be. 00:44:20 Speaker 1: A of course because of the personality and all the things he do. 00:44:23 Speaker 5: Right, Tysonatt all those guys probably where that kind of talent goes these days. 00:44:29 Speaker 2: But these guys ain't trying to find a fifty cent. They're not trying to find an artist like I was. I had planning. 00:44:34 Speaker 1: BCD E like I hang always snoop but hung out. Yeah, like that ship don't work. I'm gonna steal these guys records. Yeah, I had legendary clicks. Maybe I'm lucky, maybe I'm an unicorn. I mean, come on, you have Samuel Jackson, like Chris Rock and like. 00:44:50 Speaker 2: But that's how I upgraded, because if I'm up against Clue, I was like, you know what, I'm just gonna get the actors. 00:44:55 Speaker 1: I'm going to get like because nobody's asking them. I started with the label execs like Leo Cohen, come on you, Lebron James On. Everybody's like, that's what made it big, and everybody. 00:45:05 Speaker 3: Samuel Jackson, this guy had Malford Stewart. Everybody came to shape eminem and what he built, and the empire built was so big that people were willing to come. 00:45:16 Speaker 1: They gravitating them. They just want to be near. 00:45:18 Speaker 3: We took in sixteen million records worldwide, hard copies. That's when you had to go in the store f Ye best Buy. 00:45:26 Speaker 4: You know, and really by the you have to play for you pay for your promo picking it. 00:45:31 Speaker 3: I learned everything from from being around in his cope Shady after Math. 00:45:37 Speaker 1: Violent you know what I saw the other day Tony Hawk hosted the tape. I forgot about that. See that's what I'm saying, Tony Hawk, I forgot you look at that. 00:45:45 Speaker 4: Look at that it was like and it turned into a worldwide thing. 00:45:48 Speaker 3: And I always say and fifty always says it because you know, like that was the best deal we ever signed in our lives. 00:45:54 Speaker 2: Bro because the science, the science behind getting a celebrity like that is especially Austreet was the hub to buy mixtapes back then. If you're coming from Paris or you're coming from Germany or whatever. If you go to the Canal Street and you know, you see tons of tapes ron g see everybody. 00:46:10 Speaker 1: But if you see who Kid hosted by Robert de Niro, like, what the hell is this? 00:46:16 Speaker 2: Because I would steal the same song's clue had I had to have like a different edge, Like if you hear Robert de Niro on it talk about fuck that shit, let's go to drop that day like that, like you know, so that makes it like kind of like a souvenir to keep you know, you you see how Eminem loves cassette tapes, like that's how it was back then. There's no nobody has anything tangible anymore, Like I need to remember this time, this moment, and when you see that tape, it just brings you back to that. 00:46:43 Speaker 1: Kids don't have that now, yeah, but they look back at them. 00:46:45 Speaker 5: They want it, which is a big part of the reason for the resurgence of vinyl, exactly because kids they buy vinyl because they want to own something from the artist. I read a statistic I don't know the exact number, but a large number of the vinyl bought it a place like Urban Outfitters that has you know, a whole vinyl selection. The kids don't have record players mmmmmm. They sell more record frames then they do record players because they hang them on their walls. So they just want something from the artists. They want something tangible because otherwise they don't have it, like you know, all the stuff on their phone is fleeting. They want something permanent that they can hold that connects them to the artist. 00:47:28 Speaker 2: That's why our age demographic respects hip hop more. Because the kids are getting so fast. They can't remember what it was last year's hit, but when we get it. 00:47:36 Speaker 1: We waited online at Tower Records. We've got the autograph from we bought the poster like I had. 00:47:43 Speaker 2: I was talking to what's the name Ice Teeth that day I had like his first baby mad you know with the gun, with the shotgun. That's a classic power. That's a classic poster. Like there's no more, there's nothing to be like. You know, you come home from high school and you see like people you look up to, they don't do that no more. 00:47:57 Speaker 1: Ren DMC is the reason why I wore Adidas, Like that's right, who's doing that? 00:48:01 Speaker 2: Besides, like you know certain artists now people follow their their fashion sense, but it's more like I'm not gonna diss it so bad. It's got like a dick riding thing because of social media. Yeah, they just ride whatever. The way back then it was it was very cultural. The fashion was life, like hip hop was life. People did that to get out the hood, like to survive, so they respected the music more. 00:48:26 Speaker 1: It was everything, like even getting in the clubs back then, the tunnel Underground, like the classic rappers from back then. 00:48:34 Speaker 5: Like remember the tunnel search when you got oh my god. It was like I've never been to prison. Thank god it was. It was like more serious than that. Take your boots off, open up your mouth. 00:48:46 Speaker 1: Couldn't people people getting killed in it? No chain they have no chain rule. 00:48:52 Speaker 2: After a couple of years, Wow, remember it was crazyputigation told me like almost like times the mouth. They they'll find like somebody that you know, because back then they stab people. So you stat the club is so big, you have to wait till. 00:49:07 Speaker 1: The nine is over. Then you see like a random dead body. Like it's crazy back then, but you don't wear coats. 00:49:12 Speaker 2: That's why they stopped letting people wear like, you know, shirlings and fucking what do you call V neck gooses because people were stabbing and robbin those gooses. Remember that the V the V goose what you know, triple is like it's like the it's like the color, but the the V would be like white. 00:49:31 Speaker 1: It'd be like a V. 00:49:32 Speaker 2: The V. 00:49:34 Speaker 5: Like a varsity jack, like a varsity. 00:49:36 Speaker 1: That like the V. 00:49:38 Speaker 2: That's why they called you're talking about And I remember that I saved all my money. I tricked my father, acting like I had like all these road trips and school trips and then they were fake, like I would make fake foods. 00:49:50 Speaker 1: Just to buy the coat, and then I'm getting chased by Steve Stout. This is back in the day. 00:49:53 Speaker 2: Steve Stout was like a bully, so he would chase us little kids all over Queens and they're trying to get on v Nex. 00:50:00 Speaker 1: What him? And uh, you know it was crazy. That was a bully, yo, It's crazy. That's crazy. 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