Hour 3 – Lane Kiffin Holding Ole Miss Hostage, Reggie Miller

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Speaker 6: Blane Keith released a statement on Friday that saying that you, him and Chancellor.

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Speaker 7: Voice that had a meeting about your future.

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Speaker 3: Are you able to elaborate on the nature of that meeting at all? Yeah, Like I said.

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Speaker 8: At the beginning, very fair question, but we're not answering anything that doesn't have to do with the game and the team and the season.

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Speaker 9: So but fair.

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Speaker 10: Additional, Pat McAfee, how you don't make decisions based on money When you do make your decisions, what are the considerations for you then, especially when it comes to football.

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Speaker 3: Decisions, right, Like, what are you thinking about?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Very fair question, but I'm not going into it because, like I said at the beginning, I'm gonna keep this to this team, and he.

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Speaker 10: Says expects a decision on Saturday. Is that a decision that's been made or is that still in consideration? Like people were just curious about that.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so I mean you can just keep going. I'm not going to answer them. So that's three of them. You got another one.

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Speaker 2: Media is just going doing their job. Lane, all right, you did your job not answering. They did their job by asking. I thought the one question about Hey, you said it's not about money, so what is it going to be about? Man, he wasn't biting on any of that, but yeah, asking good questions, asking an open ended question and still didn't get him to go, yes, Todd.

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Speaker 9: Hey, coach, I actually have a fourth question.

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Speaker 11: That was Hugh Florida. Which way we're leading right now? None of us believe he's staying here.

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 12: I feel like Lane was pretty fair there. I feel like that was a win win in terms of press conferences. I think the reporters the press asked good questions, and I thought that he for the most part was pretty like like, you know, I'm not going to talk about this.

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Speaker 3: You know, both sides know.

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Speaker 2: Yet he's not going to talk about it, but it's kind of nice to see him squirm a little bit.

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Speaker 12: I would actually say too, because he was just like, look, if it's not about you know, the team, the game this weekend or the season, I'm not going to ask about it. I would argue that his future coaching right now is very real. Of it to this season and this game coming up and all of it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but also his relevancy too Ole miss Is he going to be their coach if they go to the playoffs, if he decides to take the job at Florida or LSU.

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm curious about.

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Speaker 2: Could they make this announcement, Could this announcement be leaked before the Friday game? And imagine going on the field if he's not staying, but he's going to be coaching that game against Mississippi State, And that's a real possibility. I mean it could break Thursday, it could break Friday morning before the game. That is he going to stay?

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Speaker 3: Because it feels like.

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Speaker 2: Like I'm just going to be The logic attached to this is if he was staying, he would say he was staying unless he's waiting for them to sweeten the pot. Because the reports are old miss is going to match the salary that LSU is offering, which could be thirteen fourteen million dollars a year. Now, you may want to know what else is LSU giving you, And they got to give you a Lincoln Riley deal where you get to use the corporate jet whenever you want to. Maybe now you can get around this by saying this is what my family wants to do, or I made this in the best interest of my family. Hard to argue if you throw.

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Speaker 3: That out there. Now, do I believe that?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 2: I don't because I go back to the documentary that I watched, and it was on Lane Kiffin and Lane Kiffen kind of finding out who Lane Kiffin is, and that it felt like he had happiness there. He found something or maybe it found him. But Lane Kiffin is a guy who chases. There's certain coaches they chase, but they don't know what they're chasing. Because even if you go to LSU and you win a national title, he won't stop chasing. It's just something that is know in eight in part of his DNA, you chase, You're chasing, You're constantly chasing, and like he's been kicked to the curb, he comes back, and then he's chasing and then he's in Okay, maybe you go to Florida Atlantic and then you come back. I mean Nick Saban saved his career when Saban brought him in as his offensive coordinator. He saved him. He saved Sark as well. And look, I don't begrudge him for getting the best deal possible, making as much money as he wants. But you have to understand with those decisions come ramifications. They are going to be opinions. It be a terrible Now, maybe he doesn't care, a terrible hit to his credentials if he does take this job elsewhere because he's flirted with this, and we did social media and little post here and maybe somebody leaked it.

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Speaker 3: Maybe your agent leaked that.

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Speaker 2: Your family was in LSU and then they were in Florida and Okay, That's where I have a problem with this, because it felt like you were kind of toying with the people from Oxford, Mississippi. That's the problem I have with this. You want to take another job, take another job, okay, Like your credibility is going to take a hit if you decide to go. And maybe you don't care his credibility has taken a hit. His confidence has probably taken a hit many many times. You get fired on the tarmac, embarrassed by the raiders, kick to the curb, you go to Florida Atlantic. But he is a really good coach. I just think he I don't know if he knows who he is. And I'm only doing this from the outside looking in at that documentary they did because he was it was I'm kind of finding out who the hell am I? And it felt like as I'm watching that, good for him. I remember coming in and I go, man, you know, maybe Kiffin's figured this out. He found maybe who he is what he needed, uh, you know, narcissistic Okay, but I just think your credibility takes a hit. Given how this is playing out right now, I'm hoping he stays at Old Miss. I like the story, and you this is the greatest season they've ever had. Any Maybe you're gonna get more talented LSU or Florida more money. Okay, and maybe it's not more money because the reports are that Ole Miss will match that money.

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Speaker 3: So what exactly is this?

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Speaker 2: Sometimes you're chasing, gotta keep chasing. Somebody wants me Hey, I gotta go. Hey, the moth to the Light, I'm going, I gotta I mean, why not?

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Speaker 5: This is what I do?

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Speaker 2: You know, Hey, I'm at Tennessee. No, I'm going to USC Hey. Hey, Hey, hey, hey, I don't know if he's figured himself out. If he decides to leave, given what's happened with the leading up to this, and then you're gonna take these questions. You're gonna take the heat. Okay, you can end it all by saying I'm staying at Old Miss. Then it goes away, and imagine the reaction he gets when he takes the field on Friday afternoon. Do I think he's going?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: The more I look at it, the more I hear, the more I read, Yeah, I do. But I hope he stays at Old Miss because it's been a great story. Yes, Tom, I was going to ask you just that.

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Speaker 11: I know the game's in Starkville, But if it did leak out and there were substantiated reports before the kickoff Friday that he's leaving, Like, what would that reaction be?

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Speaker 9: Is there any will there be some support for him?

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Speaker 11: They still want to finish strong or they were all anti kipping as far as the average old Miss man.

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Speaker 9: Just get out of here. You don't want to be here anymore. We don't need you.

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Speaker 3: What do you think?

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Speaker 11: I think more but not everyone, but more than more of them would be the majority.

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Speaker 12: Of with thee.

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Speaker 9: Why don't you just leave now if you don't want to be here anymore? But I don't think it would be screw this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you need him to to have a better chance in the playoffs, Like he's unnecessary. You don't want him because he doesn't want you, but you do need him in the moment.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Marvin.

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Speaker 13: Now do you think Old Miss fans will feel better if they won the national title and he left? Like, you know what, he gave us a national title. He's free to go, almost like a maybe not the same thing as Jim Harball, But you're not as upset because he left you with the national title four team that's never won a national title.

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Speaker 2: I can't speak for those people. I guess I would be fine. I mean, that's a nice consolation prize. We won the national title and we lost our coach. But once again you're trying to figure out somebody in their personality here as a coach. I don't worry, but once again, when you watch that documentary, you can't come away going. You have a different opinion about Lane, you really do. And his family's all there, and his ex wife is there, kids in school. I mean, it just felt like, all right, you got it, you finally got it.

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Speaker 3: But it feels like he's still chasing. Yeah, Pauline.

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Speaker 4: I wonder if Lane and his agents don't tell whoever he's staying with or going to until after the game, so there can be no leaks. You get the win, you wake up on Saturday morning, and that's when you tell the person you're going with, the team you're going with.

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Speaker 3: Do you think that he has not made up his mind.

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Speaker 4: No, I think he has absolutely made up his mind based off the offer is given to him, more about not his contract but the money that we spent on the roster. But I think he and his agent, to protect themselves on Friday, don't tell the suitor.

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Speaker 2: That they want to do. They won't keep it a secret. They won't keep it a secret. Somebody knows. There's somebody, at least somebody who knows what he's going to do at LSU and Florida has to be. They may not know what Old Miss but there is somebody or somebody's who know, and it doesn't take long before somebody says, hey, okay, you can't say anything till after the game.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah, see yeah.

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Speaker 12: I kind of feel like right now they're in that stage of the negotiations where it's like, uh so, do I get the private jet in my family.

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Speaker 3: All year or is it just specific? What's my suite?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 3: Is it a double or is it just the one?

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Speaker 5: Is it you know, are you.

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Speaker 3: Selling T shirts with my name on it? And what's my cut of that?

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Speaker 12: It's I think he's going through like drilling down that deep into the fine you know, dotting the eyes part.

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Speaker 2: Chris and Syracuse and we'll take a break. Reggie Miller will join us. Good morning, Chris. What's on your mind?

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Speaker 14: Hey?

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Speaker 15: Thanks Dan? Hey, I just had a question on Shador And also I wanted to say Dan, you and your family have a great Thanksgiving and the Dans as well.

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Speaker 2: And Dan.

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Speaker 15: Since Shardor Sanders was drafted, there's been such a unique, interesting, kind of unwarranted media coverage of his every move, which I think is just too much. Do you think a fair comp to that was how the media handled Tim Tebow when he was drafted.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is what I worry about with the media. They are going to put him in a position. If he's not good enough to start, it'll be tough to keep him on the roster because of the publicity the backup quarterback kits. And this is what I've cautioned the media. You guys love this story and you want to go with this story. But if he's not good enough to start, he might be a bridge quarterback. Then you're going to have teams going do we really want to put up with this? Whenever the starter has a bad game, then you ask the coach, Hey, is should we're going to play? When should we're getting in? This happened with Tim Tebow. The media they have fixation on Tim Tebow, and it put Tim in that position.

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Speaker 3: And it's difficult.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Paul, you know what, It kind of reminds me of like when a pop band would break and the radio stations would play the song to death and a band you just discover and love, you know, like the spin Doctors or something, and then they play their song for eight weeks and eight weeks are like, I'm so sick of those guys. I'm so played out. You know, bands that break become one hit, wonders hot, and then the coverage makes you dislike them.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if cam Ward's dad was Dean Sanders and Shadoor Sanders was just somebody played at Colorado, nobody would care, but everybody would. Nobody cares about cam Ward. He's the number one overall pick. He doesn't make any of these shows. Nobody talks about him at all.

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Speaker 13: Yes, Martin, he's like on the Eric Fisher level of like most irrelevant number one picks in the draft.

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Speaker 5: He's a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: I know, I know, the number one overall pick. All right, Well, take a break. Reggie Miller joins us next.

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Speaker 2: Red Gi Miller, the Hall of Famer, joining us on the program. So Lebron's back, Luca's back. Are the Lakers back?

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Speaker 7: Looking at their record, it seems that they're back.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I think now JJ Reddick has his full compliment of players. The question I think going forward is how is he going to navigate You've got Luca averaging thirty four and a half. You've got Austin Reeves the second leading score at around twenty eight. I had to go back and look at this, and maybe you can answer this.

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Speaker 7: When was the last time? It's never?

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Speaker 6: When was the last time Lebron James was the fifth leading score on his team? He's averaging fourteen points? So how does JJ navigate that? Having an All NBA player just a year ago, second team in Lebron, and now you incorporate him within the Lakers structures who've gotten off to a great start.

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Speaker 7: Whin there's a four straight.

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Speaker 3: But this could be a good thing. Reg It's a great thing.

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Speaker 7: It's a great problem to have, and we saw a little bit.

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Speaker 6: I just recently watched the back to back series they had with Utah, and that second game in Utah, the last two minutes were a little kind of wild because they didn't know it was between Austin Reeves and Luca and Lebron, and all they kept running was high screen and roll with Lebron being the screener.

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Speaker 7: At some point, when Lebron.

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Speaker 6: Has his legs, he has his wind, and he's back in full shape, no back issues. You assume at some point Lebron's going to have the ball with some of these highest screen roles. So once they figure out that dynamic of crunch time, they're still won the game, don't get me wrong, But they've got to figure out their closing moment and action between those three players.

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Speaker 2: Okay, give me the hierarchy in the West. Best teams in the West right now? Who would be number one aside from Okac Okay.

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Speaker 7: No question?

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Speaker 6: Ok see yeah, then Jokic and Denver, and then right right after them is the Houston Rockets. I think Houston is playing off the charts right now at both ends of the floor, and I think they figured out you know, we were wondering, like, how would Lebron fit in with Luca and Nostinees. We were kind of wondering, and older Kevin Durant, how is he going to fit in with this young team?

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Speaker 7: And it's been perfect him and Shane Goon. I'm in Thompson.

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Speaker 6: To me, I think come playoff times, I still have questions about that point guard.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but they figured.

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Speaker 6: It out so far and they're winning ball games. So to me, those are the top three teams.

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Speaker 3: Can the Thunder win seventy games?

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Speaker 6: They could if they wanted to, I don't think that's a priority for them.

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Speaker 7: Again, and they're doing this without Jacob.

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Speaker 6: By the way, guys, just like last year they did that hot start without Chet. Chet played the first game, got hurt and missed, you know, like fifty games after that or something, and they continue to win. So they're only going to get better once Jalen Williams gets back. Could they win fifty or seventy and maybe go for the Golden State Warriors record, perhaps, but I don't think that's a priority. Being healthy, playing well going into the playoffs is probably and getting overall number one seeds because as we saw last year, you want a game seven in you or building, and having the overall best record allows.

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Speaker 7: You to do that.

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Speaker 3: Are you on the Pistons bandwagon?

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Speaker 7: I am? I am the Pistons.

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Speaker 2: Where do they rank in the East? Then, who's the best team in the East?

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Speaker 6: No question, it's Detroit And what I love about them defensively they bring back that same identity from the Isaiah Thomas and Bill Lamber bad Boys to the Chauncey Billups, Rip Hamilton, Tayshawn Prince. They have a defensive identity, but more importantly, they have a go to guy in Cave Cunningham. I loved the Duncan Robinson pickup a guy that is a catch and shoot type guy, but he's added to his game.

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Speaker 7: He doesn't hurt you defensively.

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Speaker 6: And Jalen Durnham is an all star in my opinion this year he's made the biggest leap in terms of his development, controlling the paint and being able to score as well. To me, they are no question right now the team in the Eastern Conference.

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Speaker 3: How did the Nets get this bad Reggie?

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Speaker 6: I think it all went to when they had Katie Kyrie, James Harden and a lot of trades, bad trades.

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Speaker 7: And it is what it is.

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Speaker 6: It's just bad trades, bad management, bad scouting.

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Speaker 2: But they're one of the most irrelevant teams in all of pro.

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Speaker 7: Sports, right, Yes, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean they're terrible. They're They got Michael Porter Junior and that's it there.

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Speaker 6: I will say this, there was a time if Kevin Durant's foot or feet are not on the line, they could have an NBA championship.

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Speaker 3: But that's such a long time ago.

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Speaker 7: It is. But it's ebbs and flows with some of these organizations.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I could have done a better job running than net I do.

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Speaker 3: I'm barely kidding.

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Speaker 7: Nod to me. Bad management, bad scouting.

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Speaker 6: It's just right now, it's a bad organization.

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Speaker 2: What do you make of the Kenyan Martin Draymond Green back and forth? Where Okay, let me see if I got this right?

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Speaker 7: Is that it up?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 2: Kenyon Martin, former number one overall pick, said Draymond isn't tough, he's calculated. Draymond responds by calling Kenyon Martin an underachiever for only making one All Star team. Kenyon Martin responded by naming two hundred power forwards better than Draymond Green.

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Speaker 3: How did we get here?

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Speaker 7: Right? Look, both of these guys from Michigan, right.

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Speaker 6: And I posted a comment after I saw the response from from Kenyan Martin about the two hundred power forwards that were better than Draymond, saying, and I'm quoting Rodney Keane, can we all just get along?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 6: Because both of these guys I played against Kmart in his era, very tough dude overall number one pick, brought it every night. And I've covered Draymond Green throughout his whole illustrious career, and to me, it, I mean it's popcorn worthy.

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Speaker 7: Don't get me wrong. It's fun to watch them back and forth.

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Speaker 6: But I just wish these two either Kmart needs to go on Draymond's podcast or Draymond needs to go on Kenyan's podcast. They need to air this out because it's getting a little ridiculous now. Personally, if I was Draymon, I never would have responded because you've got the rings and right now it looks like this is almost like the Drake Knda Lamar beef right, and right now it kind of looks like Kmart is winning.

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Speaker 17: I don't like the bo out better than Draymond Green. RESSI Evans better than Draymond Green.

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Speaker 3: Now some of the June.

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Speaker 2: I mean, come on, man, okay, is Draymond a fake tough guy?

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Speaker 3: Is he calculated?

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Speaker 7: Meaning? What does that mean?

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Speaker 3: That means that he is very good at engagement.

00:24:25
Speaker 7: Maybe he just hasn't.

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Speaker 6: I think what Kmart is saying is that he hasn't started something with the with the wrong person, like for like, for instance, for instance, you remember when Boogie Cousins, DeMarcus Cousins went against Zach Randolph and was trying that with Zach Randolph, and Zach Randolph said.

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Speaker 7: I put fear in the bullies. He picked on the wrong one.

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Speaker 6: Because DeMarcus used to go after just about everyone, but he wouldn't go after Zach Randolph, right, And I think that that's what Kmart is saying, like you're not going after the real tough, You're not going after all the enforcers. And I just wish these two would get in the room, hug it out, talk it out, podcast it out.

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Speaker 7: Whatever these kids do today, figure it out.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Reggie Miller will be on the call tonight. It's a double header. Coast to coast Lebron Luca Lakers against James Harden and the Clippers Battle of La at eleven pm Eastern on NBC and Peacock. How do you think we're going to look back on Nikola Jokic, like historically, where does he rank?

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Speaker 3: Where will he ranked? You think when it's all shut and done, the.

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Speaker 6: Only thing missing from his resume is chips. He's done everything personally, He's got all the MVPs, He's have all the numbers and will have all the numbers to vacuum. The only thing that will solidify him amongst the greats are championships. I think we The knock on Will Chamberlain is that he only gotten one or two, right, and you look at Kareem who has six. You've got Bill Russell who has what eight or nine? Hakeem has too. So I think the only knock with the Joker are chips. So if he wins chips, he's in. He will be in a separate wing of the Hall of Fame because his accolades and his resume will be ridiculous at the end of the day.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm wondering about this. We do this with NFL quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: Hey, you got one, but then if you get to two, like you really separate yourself. Whereas Joker is not going to win four or five championships. But if he wins, I think he's got to get the three. If he gets the three, if you give him three and you give him, he might end up with five MVPs. So three titles, five MVPs now all you.

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Speaker 6: Can make a case for him to be the greatest center of all time if he gets three rings. If he wins three rings, he is the greatest center of all time over three in today's climate.

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Speaker 3: Yes, okay, we're taking Willed and Bill Russell out of this.

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Speaker 6: I'm certainly taking Bill Russell out. Remember we talked about this. Yeah, it's hard to put players from the sixties. It's seventy five on. Okay, So to me, it's Kareem as the greatest and then Shaq. He's competing against those two guys in terms of who is the greatest center. If he wins three, you can make a case he's the greatest because his numbers will back that up.

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Speaker 2: Because I'm trying to think any other center, like he's almost the first guy on the moon with big men who's getting average in a triple double.

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Speaker 7: And to me. His passing is what separate him. His rebounding is there, his scoring is there.

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Speaker 6: It's the passing, right and for a big man to average a triple double, and it looks like he's going to do it then back to back years, it looks like he's going to pick up another MVP the Nuggets, which it looks like there will be a top four seed right now.

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Speaker 7: I believe they're two.

00:28:20
Speaker 2: But it's almost like he's created a system like Peyton Manning did. Peyton Manning redefined the quarterback play by going to the line of scrimmage and he created his own system. Jokers created his own system, his own ecosystem. There that you got a point center who also shoots great from three, you know, rebound steals, all of those different things.

00:28:46
Speaker 6: Well, we talked about the nets, bad management that surrounding incorporating great The Nuggets have gotten it right.

00:28:56
Speaker 7: They revamped their whole team. They got rid of Michael Porter Junior, who we mentioned going to the nets.

00:29:01
Speaker 6: And now you've got you've got players around him that compliment the two best players, Jamal Murray and Jokic, and you know.

00:29:11
Speaker 7: Bringing back Bruce Brown fantastic.

00:29:15
Speaker 6: I just think the only thing missing from the Big Fella is ships.

00:29:20
Speaker 7: But here's the problem. In a loaded Western conference.

00:29:24
Speaker 6: The team that's ahead of you, they they have figured out how to win just like you did a couple of years ago. They want a chip just like you did a few years ago, and they will be a hard out.

00:29:36
Speaker 7: They're just as big.

00:29:38
Speaker 6: And yes, you took him to seven games last year, but again they won. So that's the problem. You have that team in your conference now that you've got to go through.

00:29:50
Speaker 2: If you were getting traded and you had to pick between Brooklyn or Washington, the Wizard.

00:29:58
Speaker 3: Or is there a worst one than that? Is New Orleans in there.

00:30:04
Speaker 6: If I had to pick a team right now that I would want to play for in today's.

00:30:08
Speaker 3: Game today at least want to play for.

00:30:15
Speaker 6: I would probably say, I mean Brooklyn, you're in New York, so that's kind of cool.

00:30:21
Speaker 7: Washington. I would throw Washington New Orleans in there. Those are two of my favorite.

00:30:29
Speaker 3: But I had to Sacramento, Utah.

00:30:33
Speaker 7: Sacramento, at least you're in California.

00:30:36
Speaker 18: In Utah, yeah, that would be very tough. That would be very very difficult. I could go skiing. Look, I can't do good, you know, sun dance.

00:30:50
Speaker 3: Can you ski?

00:30:51
Speaker 7: No? I can't. Sorry, I said I could go, maybe the family would go.

00:30:56
Speaker 3: But hey, the jammer rank Klay Thompson thing. One's another.

00:31:04
Speaker 2: How can you call Klay Thompson a bum if you're in street clothes and you are bordering on being a bust?

00:31:11
Speaker 6: Thank you, thank you. Here's my thing. Why are they going after god Draymond Green? Four rings Klay Thompson for? I mean, how are you going to talk about guys and they've been to the top of the mountaintop and you're in street clothes.

00:31:27
Speaker 7: I mean, I love John Moran, but.

00:31:31
Speaker 6: Get back before you start talking, and get healthy and get on the court. Please please, that's all we're asking. You can't be talking in cities, all right, You just can't.

00:31:41
Speaker 3: But to call Klay Thompson a bum.

00:31:44
Speaker 17: Hey, we got four newscord sixty one points and eight dribble.

00:31:51
Speaker 3: He's one of the five greatest shooters of all time.

00:31:54
Speaker 6: I mean, come on, it's getting ridiculous, man, it's getting ridiculous.

00:31:59
Speaker 2: You gotta get these kids a history lesson here too, Like what's going on here?

00:32:06
Speaker 6: I don't understand it? And again, Clay, he shouldn't respond. He should be looking down like.

00:32:15
Speaker 3: Cleat How are the Mavericks looking.

00:32:24
Speaker 6: I guess it ain't all eCos fault, right, but again, they've been riddled with injury. I can't I cannot really judge the Mavericks until a D and Kyrie is back, and then I can get a full assessment of them. So I'm not gonna I can't dog Cooper and the rest of these guys out until I get those two guys back.

00:32:47
Speaker 3: Could Con Knipple be the best rookie this year?

00:32:51
Speaker 7: He's winning a Rookie of the.

00:32:52
Speaker 3: Year, He's averaging nineteen a game.

00:32:55
Speaker 7: He's winning a Rookie of the Year. And dare I say this?

00:33:00
Speaker 5: Uh?

00:33:00
Speaker 3: Oh?

00:33:01
Speaker 17: There?

00:33:01
Speaker 7: I say, Oh?

00:33:04
Speaker 12: Is he?

00:33:05
Speaker 7: Is? Stephan Curry going to be a little nervous?

00:33:08
Speaker 6: Whoa in about fifteen years?

00:33:13
Speaker 14: Oh?

00:33:13
Speaker 3: With the three point totals?

00:33:15
Speaker 6: Yes, think Just go back and look at Steph's first two or three years in terms of owners made and what Kaan has done this year. Just look at their first years. I'm just saying, if you stay, but here's the problem. You gotta stay healthy. Longevity seventeen years, eighteen years for Stephan Curry, Ken Kahan can nipp will do that? Over a long period of time. I want to see it and CON's doing it.

00:33:45
Speaker 7: Charlotte, Charlotte. Oh yeah, that might be a place too.

00:33:52
Speaker 3: You don't want to go to Charlotte. That might be a place too, Yeah, Paulie.

00:33:57
Speaker 4: Steph Curry's first three years in the NBA, with the ankle injury, he averaged two point one threes made per game. Con Kannipple our guy. He's averaging three point seven threes made per game in year one.

00:34:10
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's pretty good. Yeah, he can get to the rim too. So shooter shoot yeah, shoot yeah.

00:34:16
Speaker 2: Shooters make you know, Yeah, shooters make that's the difference. Have fun tonight, Happy Thanksgiving to the family, and thanks.

00:34:30
Speaker 7: And my lovely dad's gobble, Gobble Gobble.

00:34:33
Speaker 3: That is Regg Miller. He'll be on the call tonight.

00:34:36
Speaker 2: It's Lebron Luca Lakers hosting James Harden and the Clippers. It's the Battle of La at eleven Eastern on NBC and Peacock. We'll take a break last call for phone calls. What we learn, what's in store tomorrow after this.

00:34:48
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio Dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to listen. I saw a.

00:35:01
Speaker 2: Story yesterday Steph Curry was upset that under Armour's offer to Caitlin Clark wasn't very good, and Stephan under Armour have since parted ways. Now he's gonna be with Nike. Caitlyn Clark is with Nike. But then they went on to say in the article that not everybody's thrilled with the Caitlin Clark Nike relationship. I think the logo when they came out with the Caitlyn Clark Nike logo, it was kind of like lukewarm, but Steph saying he was disappointed that under Armour didn't go after Caitlin Clark or at least give her a better deal.

00:35:37
Speaker 13: Yes, Marvin, I'm enjoying Steph Curry wearing Nikes now. It seems like he wore Air Jordan's last night walking into the arena, and I was like, man, he's been waiting about fifteen years to put on the pair of Air Jordan's or a pair of Kobe's because he had to wear under armor because he's under contract.

00:35:51
Speaker 5: So good for him.

00:35:51
Speaker 2: Okay, So you're saying he could have been better if he was playing in better shoes.

00:35:58
Speaker 13: More stylish. Oh okay, he would have been great no matter what he wore.

00:36:02
Speaker 2: Let me see all these guys play in convers Chuck Taylor's and yeah, man, back when you we used to do it, nobody ever had a sprained ankle back then. For some reason, those shoes when you wear high top Chuck Taylor's, there's no support, but it always it feels like no one had a sprained ankle back then for some reason.

00:36:23
Speaker 9: Yeah.

00:36:23
Speaker 12: See, I mean to be fair, that's because no one had thought of cutting side to side yet.

00:36:28
Speaker 2: It's just all in a direction now. But we were getting up back then, we were hitting us went straight ahead, we were go left and he were getting up.

00:36:38
Speaker 9: Uh.

00:36:38
Speaker 3: David in Ohio? I David, what's on your mind?

00:36:43
Speaker 5: Hey?

00:36:43
Speaker 19: What's up?

00:36:43
Speaker 11: Dan?

00:36:44
Speaker 12: Yeah?

00:36:44
Speaker 19: I'm with Marv on the whole Ham for Thanksgiving situation. We're having that for Thanksgiving. Can't wait to do that.

00:36:50
Speaker 14: Yeah, I'm loving it.

00:36:51
Speaker 19: Amount of things you can do with Ham. Second is, Uh, we're having Thanksgiving at the in laws and they don't really like having the TV, and I really we really want to watch the game.

00:37:02
Speaker 6: Uh.

00:37:03
Speaker 19: Wow, you know whatnot and didn't not yet any advice to try to say, I'm in the right direction, so it to maybe watch the game.

00:37:09
Speaker 2: Well, i'd get new in laws. That'd probably be where i'd start. I mean, juice a side here. How much do you really love your wife?

00:37:19
Speaker 19: Oh?

00:37:20
Speaker 14: I love her to death?

00:37:21
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, well, then maybe you say to her, we're going to be hosting Thanksgiving from now on, and you set the rules.

00:37:28
Speaker 3: You're the king.

00:37:29
Speaker 19: Okay, yeah, well then we do have the We do have the ninety eight inch television, which is you know, pretty good, so that'd be that'd be a good viewing experience.

00:37:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you got to be ready to host, though, because you never have fun when you host. It's amazing whenever we do our Christmas party, the number of people who have you know, there's no more toilet paper.

00:37:50
Speaker 3: All right, hold on?

00:37:52
Speaker 2: Could you do you have colder beer? Is there any whiskey that we can It just feels like here all you're doing is answering questions. That's why I usually go out to the garage and just hide out there. Yes, mar can I go to your roof? Oh yeah, when your son said that, that's another question. Yeah, Marvin's son goes how much is this house? And then he wanted to go up into my attic.

00:38:19
Speaker 3: We wanted to go up there and go, no, no, where's your where's your parents? Get out of here? You old punk?

00:38:29
Speaker 5: Sorry? Thank you?

00:38:30
Speaker 9: What kind of mortgage we're looking at?

00:38:32
Speaker 5: That's what he said. He's like, hey, Dan, can I call you?

00:38:34
Speaker 6: Dan?

00:38:35
Speaker 5: He did, how much you think this house goes for?

00:38:36
Speaker 12: Like?

00:38:37
Speaker 3: What do you mean you get septic city water?

00:38:40
Speaker 9: What is it?

00:38:41
Speaker 3: He's such a cute kid. Dylan in Wisconsin. I Dylan, what's on your mind today?

00:38:47
Speaker 9: Hey?

00:38:47
Speaker 14: Happy Tuesday from Wisconsin.

00:38:49
Speaker 3: Well, thank you, Dylan.

00:38:51
Speaker 19: H Dynamite Packers.

00:38:53
Speaker 14: Defense. You think if Jordan Love and the wide receivers start to melt, well, you are legit super Bowl contenders.

00:39:02
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, long as Josh Jacobs stays healthy, defense continues to play great. You just you know, I need Jordan Love to be better than just kind of average. He's got to be good. And really that's the balance you're looking for. Let's say you have a really good offense, you just need an average defense. Or if you have, you know, an average defense, you need a better than average offense.

00:39:27
Speaker 3: I mean, that's sometimes what it comes down to.

00:39:30
Speaker 2: It's very very rare unless you're the Eagles, where you have the best offense and best defenses they did last year.

00:39:38
Speaker 3: Let's see Joe in New Orleans. Hi, Joe.

00:39:43
Speaker 14: More in gentlemen, Frizzy. So with the recent conversation around best state of the football, I want to ask about the worst state for sports. LSU barely beats Western Kentucky. Head coach fired Pelicans are three and fifteen, head coach fired Saints are two and nine, and Moore looks like he's in over his head. So I would dominate Louisiana as the worst state for sports.

00:40:04
Speaker 2: All right, well, congratulations there, Joe, congratulations this day in sports history, Paul.

00:40:12
Speaker 5: Don't have a good top that we need some time.

00:40:13
Speaker 4: On nineteen twenty one, the first play by play broadcast of a college football game in college station Texas, Amateur radio station UT and Texas A and M. First broadcast in color of an NFL game on CBS nineteen sixty five, the Lions of the Colts twenty four twenty four tie and nineteen seventy six O. J. Simpson The Bills ran for two seventy three against the Detroit Lions.

00:40:35
Speaker 2: Nineteen seventy nine, Pat Summer on John Madden broadcast their first game together.

00:40:40
Speaker 3: All right, Todd, would you learn today.

00:40:42
Speaker 11: Lewis Riddick would not put Joe Burrow up there for the three and eight Bengals, potentially risking his long term helt Satan.

00:40:47
Speaker 3: What did you learn?

00:40:47
Speaker 9: I learned?

00:40:48
Speaker 3: What the worst state in the Union. It's for sports, Marvin.

00:40:51
Speaker 5: No actionent east of Kentucky's.

00:40:52
Speaker 2: No, there wasn't on or off the court, Pauli con canipple, Todd, what did I learn?

00:40:57
Speaker 11: Reggie Millis has no question the Pistons best team in the Eastern Conference.

00:41:01
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. We'll talk to you tomorrow. For Fritzie Seat and Marv Poli, yours truly in the back room. Guys, have a great day, everybody,