The Show: Travis Hunter's Injury, TreVeyon Henderson's Opportunity, and More

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Speaker 1: You're about to listen to the Late Round Fantasy Football show, which originally aired yesterday on YouTube. If you'd like to catch it live, you can fight it on the Late Round Fantasy Football YouTube channel at one pm Eastern every Friday during this twenty twenty five season. That's on YouTube dot com slash at Late Round FF. So, without further ado, here's this week's episode.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in. Welcome in, David Kitchen here the coo JJ's number one with JJJJ, I just want you to let people know how you are right now, it's one o'clock Eastern time. How was your Friday been? Just a stroll in the park?

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Speaker 1: So last week was your panic week? Yeah, right before the show, you're a little bit a little bit fla to start the show, and that's me this week. I mean we had so just just for some behind the scenes you know, looks here Rich Ryan, who does becoming a Best ball bro with me, so you guys know him from that. Rich Ryan does a lot of audio stuff and he's the one who edits all of the long form audio except for this show that we do in the feed, which is becoming a best ball bro in Late Round perspectives. So he's the one that does all the editing for those shows. And so yesterday I interviewed Scott Pianowski, who is on the show It's About to I guess it just launched. It'll hit your podcast feeds in a second. But I talked to Scott Pianowski of Yahoo Sports, and he and I had a great conversation, including a five to six minute long conversation of about Travis Hunter and Lo and Behold. After that conversation happened and we recorded it, he was put on the injury report. But there were some reports yesterday that was like it seemed to happen after Wednesday, and then he was limited on Thursday, so I'm like, Okay, maybe this isn't that serious. And then this morning happens and Travis Hunter gets placed on IR, which we'll get to in a second. And I didn't even think about it, but Rich messaged me and he goes, hey, do you want to remove the Travis Hunter of Late Round Perspectives? And I'm like, yeah, we should probably do that. So if there's a little bit of jumpiness or whatever, I mean, Rich is a great editor, so I'm sure it'll sound really great. But if there's some like weird Travis Hunter, you know, removal stuff going on with late round perspectives in the audio. That's why. But yeah, I mean it's just been a wild, a wild day. Not only that, but it's the end of the month, and at the end of every month, beginning of the next month, I post my Dynasty rankings updates, and I was doing that on Patreon and I was literally about to post and then the Travis Hunter news dropped, which does impact his Dynasty ranking, you know, like it's not gonna be like dramatic because obviously he's a rookie and and there's a long career ahead hopefully, but you know that changed. Parker Washington got a little bit of a bump, you know, in those rankings. So it's just been an absolute mess this morning for me. And then all the while it's Halloween and my my son's daycare, who has they have a parade. They decide to make it at three pm, which is right way too early. Like you're you're a you're a daycare, you're a you're a preschool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, your your service is to help working parents, That's.

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Speaker 1: Right, That's the entire point. Like that's why it's a great place, and we love it to death and we are our daughter went there. We we're gonna be there for like ten years in total. We love it. We love it to death. But three pm, three pm. So now we got to take Avery out of school a look like a half hour early, pick her up from school, go, and I gotta do that basically right after this show. So it's a it's a complete madness of a day. I can't wait to just walk around trick or treating tonight. It's gonna be way more relaxing than what's gone on today.

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Speaker 2: So you have your outfit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna be We're Moana characters. I'm gonna be. I'm gonna be hey Hey. That's why I'm wearing this color shirt because I'll be wearing this shirt with the uh with the hey hey costume.

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Speaker 2: Ah man, this is like the first year that we have not really been like that into like the dressing up, So it was like last second costumes. Kids are separated this time, you know, as they grow up sometimes like when they're little, they all can be in one. Now they've got their all separate friend groups. So it's like it's a big logistics nightmare. But we don't have time to talk about that. We do want to thank our sponsor, DraftKings for sponsors, so listen, DraftKings has been like, it's been good to us. Yes, and this is probably the last sponsorship for at least a while. We hope that, you know, we'll come back with some some stuff later.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's it's chaos.

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Speaker 1: Are you ready, let's do it Today's Fantasy News.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna just pause the Hunter News just for one second, and let's get your Thursday night football reaction. Lamar's back, Mark Andrews catches the first two touchdowns, just an extension of tight ends week. You got Charlie Kollar, they caught a touchdown. You got Greg Dulcic who had like five catches for fifty something yards. The corpse of Greg dulcig comes back. So what are your thoughts on that game last night?

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Speaker 1: My thoughts are, let's cool it with a Tua hate, okay. I think that what we do as fans oftentimes is that we sort of embed like salary and cost when we're evaluating players. You know, we say this player is a bust because of where he was drafted, as opposed to this player is good or bad, Like just in general, I don't think Tua is a good quarterback, like in terms of being a top half one in the league right now. But it was wild in the discord last night just seeing people saying how bad, like just how horrific he is. I mean, we have to give this some context. They're playing a much improved like Baltimore's defense been playing better. They have a poor offensive line. They obviously lost Hikill, So he's throwing the Jalen Wattle, who's obviously good.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Nick Westbrook a Kine who you know, I know you're a Titans fan, but let's be real.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: And then and then Malik Washington, who's just been really not good since since getting more work, uh, you know in that offense. Uh, obviously the von A Chane out of the backfield. It's just it's it's one of those things where like if you're gonna hate hate on Tua, like where were you last week, you know, whenever he had a decent game against Atlanta. You know, Like, I'm not saying this is not me like defending Tua from the standpoint of like I'm a truther and I think that he's awesome. I just it's one of those examples of like trying to be rational as a football fan and me trying to like push that rationality and push the levelheadedness because I think it's just really important as you play fantasy football. But regardless, uh, you know, I I think tua is is not an answer right now with what they have and what they need. But I want to I want to cool it a little bit with the Tua hate. I thought Lamar looked a little bit rusty to start the game, but uh, you know, was fine, mostly fine, obviously, you know, had some variants on his side with the way that Baltimore scored touchdowns they were all through the air, and then you know, I was I was happy with the process that led me to Mark Andrews and Isaiah Likely both on The Sleeper Show this week. Got Baltimore's defense also in the Sleeper Show. But the process of Miami being sort of like a tight end funnel third and adjusted target chair allowed to the position. They obviously used their tight ends a lot last week. Little disappointing outing for Jay Flowers to a degree, but there wasn't that much passing. That's the fear with Flowers though, is that if the defense plays okay, that offense is not going to be very pass heavy. And if the offense isn't very pass heavy, then Flowers is just gonna be like that, you know. Unfortunately that like six for seventy kind of player because he's not that much of like a like he's not he's not a huge touchdown getter. He's just not using the red zone very often. So he's kind of doing what I you know, after Week one he had that monster Week one game. He's kind of been doing what I thought he would do the year, and you know, he's seeing a higher target share than what we projected. I'm still but I will say I'm still more bullish than not on Zay because I had Zay as a bye a couple of weeks ago. Uh, I got some exposure to him through that as well. But those are my overwhelming thoughts on on what we saw. I thought it was a pretty like didn't we kind of expect that game to go the way that it did? Like it was a pretty pretty projectable game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Pizza, the res hose offen, that one big play Ollie Gordon Trippe. The tripping call was terrible, I mean, and then that was that was easily a four or five point swing there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Pete is also saying that JJ dressed up as JJ for Halloween. Actually I made this joke in the discord, So I'm going to say right now, I actually uh, I dressed up as Travon Henderson's workload on Sunday, which is nothing, just a joke, you know out there. I'm trying to reverse jinks at all costs with Travon Henderson this week.

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Speaker 2: Deb cas Is Kitchen. I like your costume. It's actually a handsome bandy fan. That's uh oh there were Yeah, that's my costume anchored and Gonzale. You want to you want to address this, he says. Now you can be friends with Hayden and Josh again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean to be to be clear everyone, We've always been friends with Hayden and Josh. But yeah, yeah, now we can hopefully, you know, hit him up. Maybe do a show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe do a show. Okay, let's get back onto the the news Hunter more like Haunter, you've got this news happened? You know, we thought it was a nothing burger an issue yesterday practice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like maybe something, but definitely not this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely not this. This was a this was big. Right after the bye week, we thought he was gonna go off. We've mentioned him multiple times on the show for the past two weeks as far as like this is his time and then this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my reaction to this is that this hurts like Amari and Hampton. Does this not feel like when Amar and Hampton went down where we're getting so excited. Hampton was was gonna be a top ten run before that injury. I mean, he was getting so much work, the offense was working for him. This feels a little bit like the Amari and Hampton thing where we were excited. It was very clear where things were trending for Travis Hunter and it's just not going to happen. I mean, now Liam Cohen is I mean, if you read between the lines, it sounds like Travis Hunter might not even be back this season. Like we just don't know at this moment as we're recording.

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Speaker 2: Non contact injury at practice.

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Speaker 1: Not right right, so at the very earliest it's what week thirteen that he would be back. But I'm you know, it's just sad. I think Parker Washington is the guy that you would want. He's going to step up. He ran a lot of routes last time we saw Jacksonville. He'll play some slot, which is, you know, a piece of that offense that is pretty attractive. We saw that with Liam Cohen last year too, And I think Washington's a decent player. If you go back and you read, you know, my model, my ZAP model is different now, the prospect model. But if you go back and you read sort of what I was said about Parker Washington coming out, I mean, he had a pretty intriguing prospect score is an early declare decent production, not great production, but decent enough. And he's produced at times throughout his career. Like, I don't think he's a bad player, Brian Thomas. Obviously, you know you have more stability with him hopefully without uh, you know, Travis Hunter in the mix, and then if Dammy Brown is healthy, you know he would work too, and you have sort of like you know, you have an ex in Brian Thomas, you have the slot in Parker Washington. You know you have someone who can stretch the field, and Dammy Brown. You have three like hypothetically, you know, decent wide receivers that can be cohesive and work together. But the thing with Travis Hunter that we I mean, he can play anywhere, and he could he was gonna be featured, and so that that allowed for way more flexibility on offense than what they have now. So h Parker Washington's the ad. It's really sad with his Travis Hunter stuff, just from like you know, uh, not just from a fantasy perspective, just from like a football fan perspective, like talking about the second overall pick in the draft and a guy who can play both ways and we're starting to see him really thrive on one side of the field, and now we're just not gonna be able to see that come to fruition, at least in the short term.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean BTJ banged up Britain's train just like he was doing good and then he got hurt. Like the confidences is struggling, all right, Tyrone Tracy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's that's it.

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Speaker 2: That's the headline. I think you put that in here.

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Speaker 1: Well, I I saw. I just want to make sure that we talked about Tyrone Tracy because Kim Scattaboo's injury was like the biggest injury.

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Speaker 2: You didn't mean to capitalize the r here. I thought I thought you were.

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Speaker 1: No, I wasn't doing anything. I was just throwing that in there. I didn't even see any of the other headlines. I just threw that in there to make sure that we that we talk about him. So I'm just gonna put RB two. I think he's He's firmly in that that area the rest of season. I talked about I'm on the fifteen Transaction show. You know, I do want to throw out there though. And I talked with Scott Pianowski about Tyrone Tracy at length because we went running back by running back on the show where I did this or that with Tyron Tracy versus a bunch of running backs. The one thing I'll say is that Cam Scattaboo's injury could linger into twenty twenty six. And to keep that in mind as you're you know, looking at keepers and looking at Dynasty and stuff like that, this is an injury that players have not necessarily come back. I mean, we don't have a big sample. I talked to Jeff Mueller about this on Twitter. I just asked him and the response was basically like, you know, this is like Chris Godwin esque a little bit. Obviously, Skataboo is definitely younger than although he was an older prospect, He's definitely younger than Godwin. You know, doesn't have the same kind of of wear and tear that Godwin does necessarily and I you know, running back might be a little bit different than wide receiver with how things healed. But just be be like aware that the Scataboo injury could could be a longer recovery than what's being reported. Like I think rap sheets said something along the lines of it being like a pretty clear like like a clean uh situation of like, you know, just coming, did something happen? What happened?

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Speaker 2: Breaking news? What is it gonna put it? Uh? Right there?

00:15:20
Speaker 1: Remandre's out?

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Speaker 2: Remandre confirmed out this week?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I you you you you reacted like Remandre was out for the year or something. No I expected.

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Speaker 2: Remind Hey, yes, Traveon Henderson owners will take anything.

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Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not. We'll get to that in a second. We'll get to that in a second. Okay, But yeah, I don't think that it's like an easy recovery for for Cam's kataboo.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: One thing you forget, JJ is that Cam's got that he's got that dog in him.

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Speaker 1: He does. That's the one thing that I mean, he might be back. Honestly, he might be back next week.

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Speaker 2: Guys, just it up, all right, Knight and Shining Armor. The running back situation for Arizona has been very fluid this season. Yeah, and now we've got Bam Knights on the ant whatever you want to call him, but he is. He's rising up the ranks for this week.

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna I'm gonna say that I think that people look it might end up being the Bam Knight Show, but I think people have too much confidence in Bam Knight. When I first released my rankings this week, I had I had Bam as like a low end RB two, I think at like RB twenty two or something like that, something along those lines. And I got a lot of responses from people that are like, why is Bam not ranked higher? Like he's got a great matchup. Yes, And I said this on the Sleeper Show. If Knight sees the exact same backfield chair that he saw the last time we saw Arizona, he'll he'll probably be a strong RB two. But my fear is a Mari de Marcado. We don't have the official word on him. If he's back, I think he could play a pass catching role. Michael Carter, even though he was released, it was just roster gymnastics with what they were doing there. But Michael Carter could get some work in this backfield if this hits a negative game stript, I don't think Bam Knight is gonna be on the field and they're playing Dallas like that's a very possible reality here. So I'm cautiously optimistic, like I'm using Bam Knight in a couple of leagues. But I don't want to be like two over the top thing that he's gonna be a bell cow, because I don't necessarily think that's gonna happen. When you know, Amaro de Mercato, we can't forget he was out the last time we saw Arizona, and he has been a player despite that that gaff that he had and you know, fumbling the ball at the goal line, He's been a player that over the last X number of years or x number of games, he's been a pass catching back and played that role pretty frequently for Arizona. And so if he's back, we could we could see even more of a rotation. So I want to be level headed with Bam Knight. I still think that he can be like a low end RB two, you know, and I think that you could find him in your lineup during the you know, bye weeks and stuff like that, but just be realistic about expectations.

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Speaker 2: Are you defending Kyler too? I think I saw you defending Kyler the other day in chat.

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Speaker 1: I just think a lot of players in general, like quarterbacks in general, you just don't like the hate.

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Speaker 2: You don't like the hate.

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Speaker 1: I don't like the hate because people don't understand how bad it can actually be, you know. And like some of these players, like a Kyler or like a Tua, they can still give you a decent game, you know, every other game or here and there. There are some quarterbacks out there that are just not it at all. I mean we saw that with like Jake Browning when he stepped in. So these guys aren't backups. They're still they're still starters in the league. They're just not good starters.

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Speaker 2: Okay, uh mann that guy, because we might have Swift. If Swift gets ruled out, can I make the shock face?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I think Swift being ruled out would be pretty surprising. Yeah, not like totally surprising, because he did have I think this is the first time he had multip old. Uh did not practice is in a row this year, but he hasn't really practiced that much.

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Speaker 2: This year.

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Speaker 1: It's sort of like remember last year with Tony Pollard, Tony Pollard would just not practice all week and then he'd play. Yeah, it's that's sort of what DeAndre Swift is this year to me two years ago, right this last year, it was last year okay, because it was when Taj Spears was out and then Spears came back down the stretch and was was pretty usable. But DeAndre Swift to me, reminds me a lot of what's what was going on with Tony Honestly, like comparable fantasy assets the two of them. You know, from from last year Pollard to this year Swift. But yeah, if if Swift is out, then the Mnung guy, even though I think Manung guy is a pretty average running back, pretty mid if you will, that's what the kids say. I might have called him another name when they drive.

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Speaker 2: Compared to what you called him after the seventh round pick might have called might have said that he was the a word.

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Speaker 1: We got to keep this clean, kitchen, keep it clean. Uh, he's just a fine process. You guys can read the prospect guy like he's just a He's just a guy. To me, like I don't think that he's a special or like, I'm sure he's a great human. I'm just saying about his his football skills. There you go, Monon, just a guy, there you go. But a great matchup for him. If Swift is out, Manunguy should be in your lineup.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of good matchups, you would think this Bears passing attack would be a good matchup as well. But everyone is hurt. Like you had Luther Burden who had a concussion. He was out yesterday. The other three came back to practice and were limited.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean I don't really have a reaction to the three Bears wide receivers. I'd say hopefully, hopefully Caleb is good because he's been really inconsistent this year. But yeah, I mean Roman Dune Say has been dealing with his heel injury. DJ Moore is just not the DJ Moore that we've grown to love. Like he's just not that player right now.

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Speaker 2: You say that's not my DJ.

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Speaker 1: Sure, okay, sure, Kitchen, Yeah, but like I'm not, I'm not really like you know, this actually sets up as a game that could be good for DJ Moore. But regardless, I think it just all comes down to Caleb Williams and whether or not he plays well or not, whether or not he plays well, I didn't think last week like last week, he definitely had some some issues. But you know, Ben Johnson even said like there were some things that he liked about what Caleb did last week. I think Baltimore's defense is playing better and and like we can't just have like be anchored to priors. Baltimore's defense has done this before too, where they were bad and then they fixed things. The Steelers should take note on how to how to do that. But you know, I'm still I still think this game has an opportunity to be pretty high.

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Speaker 2: Scoring, seeing if dig Moore had any rushing props out there, because if Swift is out true, yeah he would, he would probably get some carries. None none listed books are too smart. I pick a Panther's quarterback this week.

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Speaker 1: JJ.

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Speaker 2: They're both kind of hurt. They're both at practice though.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like Bryce Young is going to start. But like literally right before we started doing this, I saw the is that good the news come through? Yeah? I mean Andy Dalton looked pretty bad last week. The only the only good part with Andy Dalton, And I said this on on I think living the stream this week where I kind of want to do a study and if someone wants to do it, feel free and I'll shout it out. But I want to do a study. Do you know where I'm going with this?

00:22:30
Speaker 2: No, just like if someone wants to do my homework for me.

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Speaker 1: It's like, I mean, if someone wants to dig into it because it's fun, and feel free to because I'm not gonna able to do it until over the off season. But I'm really curious when like a veteran quarterback steps in as a backup, if they hyper target an alpha wide receiver, because anecdotally it feels like that happens. Jamar Chase has a freaking forty six percent target share with Joe Flacco fit over fifty percent back to back games. We'll get to that in a second. Uh, you have Tetroo mcm last week forty three and a half percent targets here with Andy Dalton, it just feels like it's totally vibes' based. But I'm curious if that's If that's the case, but I think Bryce Young is gonna start. I don't really have a preference between I think Bryce Young is better than Andy Dalton. Yes, like I I genuinely do.

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Speaker 2: Okay, another old maybe an Unk. Some would say, what the Flacco U? It seems like Joe Flacco he might be in jeopardy of missing this week.

00:23:26
Speaker 1: I think Unk's gonna play. But I look, I missed I missed Lamar last week on this show. I thought he was gonna play. I missed A J. Brown. I thought AJ Brown was gonna play. So I could very well be wrong, but I think I think Unk is gonna play in this game. And if he does, then obviously you're you're firing up your your Bengals because it's a beatable defense.

00:23:44
Speaker 2: Okay, we are going to uh just pull an audible here because I can't wait any longer. I need to know what you have to say about uh Remandre being out this week.

00:23:56
Speaker 1: All right, I think that that Trayvon Henderson is going to carry the ball three times for thirteen yards in this game against Atlanta. No. I mean, look, I went through this on the Late Round Fantasy Ball Patreon live stream that I do on Tuesdays. You were out this week, but I went through and I looked at Travon Henderson's rushing charts because next Gen stat shows you where they ran and how long he went for all that kind of stuff. They're cool charts. Anyone can access them. Last week if you compare last weeks to other weeks from Travon Henderson, last week he got so he had so many toss plays, so many runs of the outside, and lo and behold against one of the best rush defenses in football. He goes what ten for seventy five and it wasn't like he had a sixty yard run in there. I mean he was getting chunk plays. And that's what you need to do with Trayvon Henderson.

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Speaker 2: Now.

00:24:51
Speaker 1: The problem is that Josh McDaniel's and the Patriots don't necessarily like running their running backs that way, which is why they've preferred Ramandre Stevenson more this year. The fact that Ramondre Stevenson has not been good this year. Ramondre Stevenson has had two good games, one against Miami one against Tennessee, which most running backs have good games, right right, And so my thing is, hopefully they can now that Trayvon Henderson is the RB one on the depth chart, Hopefully they can sort of make this scheme and run scheme cater it more towards Trayvon Henderson. Like, if you watch that game this weekend and you just see Travon Henderson running up the gut over and over again, it's we're cooked, Like it's over right. But if you see them trying to get him in space, trying I've been saying this all year, get him to the outside, throw him the freaking ball. You know, he's not seeing targets last couple of games. That's where Travon Henderson can thrive. This is a turning point where, of course, if he has a good game, this could be it, right, this could be what we were hoping for. But if he does not have a good game because they're using him the same way that they've been using rend Andre Stevenson, it's probably not gonna happen for Travon this year. The other point that I want to make is I think they still get other running backs involved this weekend. This is not people will get excited the way they got excited about Rico o'dowdell when Cuba went down, where they're like, oh, Rico's going to get a lot of most people, Rico's going to get a lot of work, you know, And it was exciting because he was going to see a lot of work in that backfield. I don't think that Trayvon Henderson's backfield chair is going to look anything like what we saw from like ric o'dowdell when he stepped in for Chuba Hubbard.

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Speaker 2: As just an example, who else do they have like Terrell jenningsl Jennings, They signed with Dearness Johnston, Johnson Johnston.

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Speaker 1: They my mind has been on QJA. They have other running backs that they'll that they can throw out there and we get again we consider here all day and be like, why would they do that? Well, Travon Henderson is not that much of an in between the tackles runner, not right now, Like he hasn't proven that. And so if they want to use Jennings a little bit more there, I'm not going to be that surprised. Like I think we have to be realistic.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hopefully this will be the like you said that, the turning point that cat whatever it is, the catalyst to just catapult him into relevancy, because what if what if he becomes a league winner? And I mean look if and you were stressing out for eight weeks for nothing, Yeah.

00:27:20
Speaker 1: I mean, look, it's the worst call my season is Tradon Henderson, like, not even you were.

00:27:25
Speaker 2: The only one. He was being steamed heavily.

00:27:28
Speaker 1: Because here's the thing. Here's the thing, I don't really care about what other people are doing. I care deeply about what I'm doing. And I understand that other people were steaming him as well. And I can definitely fall back on that and be like I wasn't alone, and that's comforting. But at the same time, it was a really, really bad it was bad advice so far, and so yes, if if he turns it around, if that happens this weekend, I'm just not gonna I mean, from what we've seen from Travion and the Patriots, I just don't think that we should have that expectation. Just understand, and it's part of his range of fulcomes.

00:28:02
Speaker 2: Okay, what about Burchard Smith season, it's I mean, lots of lots of guys could be.

00:28:07
Speaker 1: Getting let's take lots of late round guys getting some hops, you know.

00:28:11
Speaker 2: Could we get in some some opportunities.

00:28:13
Speaker 1: For sure, I think that we're gonna see a lot of Kareem Hunt. But yeah, I mean I said this in the Mailbag episode. You know, these are these these are the situations where you want to roster these players through their opportunity just to see even if even if they don't see like massive back backfield chairs and massive workloads, if they show us something that could lead to more work down the stretch. You know. Same thing with Trevon Henderson, Like Trevon Henderson is way more obvious because he's the RB one on the depth chart. But with Burshard Smith, Uh, even if he sees like a thirty percent backfield chair, like if he sees a seven or eight percent target shair, what if he just is really good on those looks and Kareem Hunt's terrible on those looks. You know, So he's definitely something you should have rostered right now. You don't have to play them necessarily, Although I am because I'm in deeper leagues and stuff, But I am excited for him to get some opportunity because I think he's a really good player.

00:29:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited for this game that might be a yeah, I think a squadbox game.

00:29:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, for for what's to cutter be a quadbox game? My co.

00:29:15
Speaker 2: All right, it looks like Woody Marx is Okay, he got added late to the injury report yesterday and then Nico is back, so good for the Texans.

00:29:24
Speaker 1: All, yeah, thank goodness. You know, matchup's not great, although Certan's out, so that'll help things for that offense. But yeah, I mean, you know, I think we know what Woody Marks kind of is, where you know, you'll see like a fifty maybe sixty percent running back rush are in a given week, and then he's going to be the one that they try to get in space as a receiver, like his backfield share. If you guys want to think about like what I had from a vision perspective with like tray Von Henderson, it's this, it's it's this idea that he's a fifty to sixty percent running back rush air player and a ten percent plus target share player. But then there's room to grow from that, you know, and historically players with that kind of backfield chair do quite well, you know. And the difference between Marx and Henderson is that as prospects, Henderson looked better. Offensive environment New England's is better than Houston's. But yeah, I mean, if it's coming together for Woody Marks, I think it can be a solid like high end three low end to hope maybe even mid range too. RB two rest of season for fantasy purposes.

00:30:26
Speaker 2: Today's data, All right, let's get to today's dead or you've got another little nerdy table talking about target share since twenty eleven.

00:30:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought this was kind of interesting. So I've been talking about how and I said this in the mail bag, like Jamar Chase's run over the last couple of weeks has been insane because he's seen fifty percent target shares better than fifty percent target share in back to back games. So I went back and I looked at all wide receivers. There's been two tight ends where this happened. But I looked at all wide receivers since twenty eleven and who had greater than a fifty percent target chair in a game. And there were forty one of them if you count this year. If you don't count this year, there's been five of them this year, which means there's been thirty seven of them, which means per season, Kitchen, we see two point six of these greater than fifty percent target share games from wide receivers per season. This year. Halfway through the year, we've had five five of them. We had Drake London against Buffalo. Remember when he went off against them when Darnel Mooney was still I remember.

00:31:33
Speaker 2: I mean, one can hope that that repeats it, so, yeah, exactly, and then he got hurt.

00:31:38
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase against Pittsburgh, we remember that one Jackson Smith and Jigba has two. He had one I believe that was Week one, and then he had one against Jacksonville and then Jamar Chase again against the Jets. So granted two of the five instances, sorry two players. There's only three wide receivers that are part of these five, right, But the fact that it's happened so frequently is pretty interesting. Just goes to show how good of a season Jsn's having and how important Jamar Chase is uh to that Cincinnati offense, just given how hyper targeted he's been with Joe Flacco. And for the record, the two tight end games where they've seen a greater than fifty percent target chair Delaney Walker had won and George Kittle had the other one.

00:32:20
Speaker 2: Just looking at some of these names, Pierre Garson, I haven't seen that name in forever.

00:32:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, look there, they're all elite names. I mean, Sammy Watkins had the highest, but a lot of that too, was like Sharon Matthews, they only threw the ball, like I think, I think they only threw the ball Buffalo did that week like like twelve times. You know, it was just one of those games where he just saw a lot of looks because of that. But Neighbors is on here. Aj Brown has a couple Kelvin Benjamin Kelvin, Benjamin after Stud Yeah.

00:32:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, dez Rip, Demius Thomas. Yeah, it's a good list.

00:32:58
Speaker 1: It's fun to look at that kind of stuff. I think. I think giving giving proper his like historical perspective is always important whenever you see a guy who's just like running so hot, because then you can like not only realize that it's probably going to regress a little bit, but also just appreciate the the uh, the awesomeness that is, you know, JSN, Jamar Chase and Drake London.

00:33:17
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know if you saw when Brandon Marshall was talking to Pete.

00:33:22
Speaker 1: Over Zet's Yeah, I watched, Yeah.

00:33:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was talking just about like getting him the ball and uh, you know.

00:33:28
Speaker 1: Just.

00:33:30
Speaker 2: On one of these only these weeks where he just caught a ton of pat I think he said the record that.

00:33:34
Speaker 1: He has Brandon Marshall since twenty eleven has the highest target share of any wide receiver by like a healthy margin in a season. It was like he had like a forty percent target chair one year.

00:33:44
Speaker 2: So it was it was just fun listening to him talk about how he was unguardable basically, you know how receivers are.

00:33:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, of course, what's it?

00:33:53
Speaker 2: Uh?

00:33:53
Speaker 1: What's it?

00:33:53
Speaker 2: Then he say? Then he says about their their tweets. Oh yeah, Carrie and Knife, Yeah, what is it?

00:33:59
Speaker 1: I don't remember the exact phrase, but yes, they'll they're always poetic and yes, yeah.

00:34:04
Speaker 2: Someone in the chat will have it for us.

00:34:07
Speaker 1: It's the late round, main event.

00:34:12
Speaker 2: All right, let's look at players that you like more than consensus this week, starting with Danny Dimes. You have met QB four compared to QB seven.

00:34:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, there's a lot of good quarterback options this week, So I understand why there's a potential gap here because I even have him like in a tier with you know, Drake May and Justin Herbert and even Dak Like, I think they're all like good plays. So I don't think this is like that dramatic of a difference, even though the ranking shows that it's different. I just like Dimes from a on paper standpoint, although I've been on record saying that I wouldn't be shocked at the Steelers just like win this game because it'd be the most football NFL Mike Tomlin thing of all time. But Pittsburgh's dead last right now and adjusted quarterback passing yards allowed, so they allow sixty eight more quarterback passing yards per game than those quarterback season long averages, which is crazy. I mean, it's horrible. They're the second best matchup by justin fantasy points allowed, which is no surprise that there's some correlation there. Indianapolis is about a twenty seven point implied team total, and over his last three Dimes have scored twenty two and a half twenty two point two and twenty three point two standard fantasy points. So I think it's a pretty good play this week on paper. But anything goes. This is why the you know, the NFL works.

00:35:26
Speaker 2: And you've got Kareem Hunt as you're running back eighteen compared to running back twenty two?

00:35:30
Speaker 1: I did. Can you can you make that a little bit wider there the screen? Yeah, it's shrunk for some reason. There you go. Yeah, Kareem Hunt RB eighteen versus RB twenty two. Like I said, I'm hoping for Brishard Smith to get some some opportunity, but I think it's it's probably gonna be Kareem Hunt's backfield. Last year without Isaiah Pachecos, like week three to thirteen or something like there two to thirteen, Kareem Hunt had an eighty four percent running back rush are per game, and he was used as a receiver as well. But I don't know if those receiving looks are going to be there quite the same with Burschard Smith in the mix. But there's a lot of scoring potentially against Buffalo this week. The Bills are allowing the six most adjusted Fantasy points to running backs. So I think Kareem Hunt is a is a you know, decently solid RB two.

00:36:14
Speaker 2: All Right, You've got Debo the cover boy at wide receiver eighteen this week. No Terry McLaurin.

00:36:20
Speaker 1: It's just strange to me, you know, maybe maybe rankers just haven't really adjusted yet for you know, for the fact that like I don't know if frankers have adjusted for the fact that Terry McLaurin is out right, but he was out pretty early this week, so I'm and I was only grabbing from people who had updated their rankings. So I mean, I guess people think that Deebo Samuel's the wide receiver twenty six. I don't think that that. I think that's too low when you realize that in four games with Terry McLaurin, Deebo Samuel has a twenty two point eight percent target chair per gam erin and twelve point three PPR points per game. Okay, nothing special at all like Deebo with Terry McLaurin has been you know, wide receiver three type player basically where we drafted him right, three games without McLaurin, thirty one percent target share per game rate, sixteen point four PPR points per game. You get Jayden Daniels back. Yes, it's a tougher matchup, but I do think that that Debo, just on volume alone, can get by and be a top twenty wide receiver this year or this week.

00:37:22
Speaker 2: Okay, and then you get Theo Johnson and I saw him. I think we had him last week in the look Ahead Waiver wire.

00:37:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I feel like I've had Theo Johnson. I've been talking about up Theo Johnson for like months now. He's one of those players where I understand why he's not rostered in more leagues because chances are he's more of a high end tight end two and not a low end tight end one. But I mean his peripherals have been good. Twenty percent target here since my league neighbors injury, back to back games with a ninety seven percent rout participation rate. Just to give you guys some context, like for tight ends, ideally they'd be over like the eighty percent mark. A lot of tight ends are in the sixty to eighty percent route share mark. You know Cardiocade will get in the ninety five percent range, but and then you know Trade McBride will too and stuff. But having ninety seven percent route chairs and back to back weeks Daniel bellingers banged up, like, there's a lot of reason to think that this can stick, that he will just be on the field a lot. It's a neutral matchup for THEO from the standpoint of like how many adjusted Fantasy points they're allowing and adjust the tight end targets here they're they're giving up. But I think THEO can beat THEO. Johnson can be a solid high end tight end, two low end tight end one rest of season, like he should be rostered in more leagues, and he's rostered in right now.

00:38:36
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm excited about these bold predictions because they are going to help me personally, and that's what we're here for. Starting with Kamani Vedal being a top five running back this week.

00:38:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, top, I'll go top five, be a little bold because I think you know, right now I have him ranked eleventh, which you know going up to top five is different. To be fair, I did have Derek Henry ranked ahead of him, and Henry didn't catch a pass and didn't score a touchdown and so his game.

00:39:04
Speaker 2: Almost did he was at the one yard line.

00:39:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, he didn't catch a pass last night, did he? I can't. I can't remember. Yeah, So, I mean he had a good game on the ground. It's just that he didn't have, you know, a big game because he didn't find the end zone. So we could leap frog that. So maybe it's not as bold, but regardless, Tennessee third best matchup by justin points allowed to running backs, the Chargers of twenty six and a half point imply team total last week Kamani Videll, and I'm really mad I should have shouted out Jared Patterson as like a deep sleeper on this week's Sleeper Show. It didn't cross my mind enough to do it, but I should have. So I'm I'm gonna you know, I won't count it, but I'm gonna add him as a deep sleeper. But Kamani Videll last week had twenty three carries on only like a sub seventy percent running back rush here because they had such a good game script and they were just cooking on the ground against Minnesota that they could just do it over and over again, and so they ran a lot, They ran a lot of plays and it helped Commani Videll. So like his backfield share wasn't amazing, but his overall workload was still amazing. I think he can easily see twenty plus touches in this game. Hassan Haskins is banged up. Yeah, I think Videlle is a really good play. And it makes me sad because Marion Hampton could be absolutely cooking right now if you never got hurt.

00:40:17
Speaker 2: I know that, I mean, that really is a thing. If if Kamani a Voudelle is cooking, I mean no offense to command about all. He's great, yeah, but he's not elite.

00:40:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, Derek Henny did catch one pass, as Jed and Chat corrected me, I couldn't remember. I thought there was one because I was thinking he had like one hundred and seventeen rushing yards or something like that, and I knew he scored like thirteen.

00:40:35
Speaker 2: He also was in at the very end when he didn't need to be.

00:40:38
Speaker 1: I know, And then he got one hundred yards and I'm thinking to myself, Oh, they're done with They're gonna pull them out. Yeah, and they didn't. They didn't pull them out.

00:40:44
Speaker 2: Keaton Mitchell is just sitting like a deve on the sideline, just watching everything.

00:40:47
Speaker 1: Yeah. I know.

00:40:49
Speaker 2: So all right, You've got Justin Jefferson scoring twice as your next big bold call. And I love this one.

00:40:54
Speaker 1: This one's fun. Yeah. Maybe I should just say he scores once because that might be bold because he hasn't scored in forever. But yeah, you gotta say twice because then if it hits, then you're looking real good. Yeah. Indoor game against Detroit. They gotta keep pace with Detroit. We love playing you know, Jared Goff indoors because he's way better at home and indoors. You know what if JJ McCarthy is in trash, you know, the JJ McCarthy stuff, I just think is so premature. Plays a good second half against Chicago and then goes up against Atlanta and yes, misses some throws. There was that one to Jalen Naylor. I remember down the sideline where he had Naylor and he just overthrew him.

00:41:36
Speaker 2: And hey, do you think there might be too much hate for JJ McCarthy.

00:41:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, like every other quarterback. Yeah, yeah. The only one that I don't think there's enough of is with cam Ward. I'm just kidding. I'm totally kidding. I'm just saying that for you.

00:41:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I know.

00:41:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, Look, I just like it's just premature to me, Like we don't know. We've seen like two games from him. One of them he was fine in the second half. The other one he played Atlanta by the way, which Atlanta now we know, has been good at stopping the pass. I mean they they have by far from like a yard's allowed perspective. I think they're like minus fifty yards over expected with with from from quarterback passing, and we see that that matchup isn't as easy as we thought it was back then. You know, Justin Jefferson is seeing good target shairs. There is touchdown like he should have scored way more touchdowns than he scored so far this year. This isn't how regression works. Regression isn't just like, hey, you know you're supposed to have five touchdowns, you've only scored one, so this week you're gonna score four. That's that's an over correction, right. Regression is just saying you should be back at your baseline where you typically score, and I think Justin Jefferson can at least get there, and then hey, what if variance is on his side or what if they are throwing a lot and then he gets a second touchdown in this game.

00:42:53
Speaker 2: Okay, let's go to the look ahead where we're wire and we got quite a few players on this one, so I got a I'm like, I'm still scrolling wanting to know, like where the end is?

00:43:05
Speaker 1: Is there? Yeah, I I was. I was kind of you pretty open ended with the amount of waiver ads, so I'll go quick.

00:43:12
Speaker 2: Okay, it's like a dump, It's like a waver wired dump kind of where you're just putting everything in there.

00:43:16
Speaker 1: And then yeah, basically, you guys can choose what you want. I'll give you. I'll give you background on all of these. Next week we have Cleveland and New York the Jets, so both of those defenses are streamers. I don't remember where it's being played. I'll look it up right now, because trust me, I don't want to get a's in it's in New York. I don't want to get this wrong. After getting Cleveland wrong last time. It's in New York, maybe I would go you know what, now we're gonna go Cleveland over New York. Is just the The Browns defense is better. So we'll go Cleveland and New York, and then if you can't get them, Carolina gets New Orleans. They're in Charlotte next week. New Orleans. Tyler Schuck not super you know, enthusiastic about him starting for New Orleans at this point. So Carolina works as a streamer.

00:44:01
Speaker 2: There, Okay, and you get the Browns Carolina Jets, and then we go to quarterbacks with Sam Darnald.

00:44:10
Speaker 1: Sam Donald gets Arizona in Week ten. That's been a good matchup so far, a relatively decent matchup by justin points a lot, I would I would imagine it's going to have a decent enough total next week for Donald.

00:44:23
Speaker 2: Prexits in Croatia JJ.

00:44:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm sure the Browns are probably playing in like, yeah, in like Croatia or Russia or something some random spot this weekend. And I'm just getting it wrong.

00:44:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, there is a I feel like there is a game. No, I think every game is in town this week.

00:44:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so.

00:44:43
Speaker 2: Okay, no foreign soil games this week. Yeah, in town.

00:44:47
Speaker 1: It's in the States.

00:44:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, in the States. Okay, let's get to running backs. You've got toutin Manungai. We just talked about tay J. Spears, Rishards Smith and tank Bigs. Yeah, and Dylan Sampson and Dylan Sampson, Isaiah Davis, Blake Korum.

00:45:05
Speaker 1: At least I categorized by a position. All right, let's go one by one here, base shall Tutin. I think there is a non zero chance that the Jags use more Tutin out of the bye. Talked about this on perspectives a little bit. Uh, Travestien hasn't been the most impressive. H Tutin had that shoulder that he was dealing with like every single week, and then he would play, but he might not have been one hundred percent. They're coming out of there by. You know, we saw a similar trajectory last year, and not saying that Tuton is this guy, but we saw a similar trajectory with with Bucky Irving last year. You can get more thoughts on on the Perspective's episode because I talked about that a little bit more Kyle Manungai. For obvious reasons, especially if DeAndre Swift is out Adam right now. Honestly, Tajy Spears, you have a couple of outs for Tajy Spears. You have an injury out obviously if Tony Poller were to get hurt. But Tony Collard is the subject of some trade rumors, right yeah, And so if Tony Pollard got traded, Tajy Spears would be like I think Spears because Spears is more electric, you know, I like, bigger playability than Tony Pollard at this point in their careers and probably like they've been using him as a receiver and probably a little bit better a receiver. And this is nothing that's Tony Pollard. But but Spears would probably be better than Pollard was without Spears, you know, like a from a fantasy perspective. Not only that, but this is now later in the season where we were cam Ward has more experience, and you gotta hope that the Titans offense can move the ball a little bit better. So I think Tajay Spears needs to be rostering way more than forty two percent of leagues right now. Forshard Smith, they gonna buy next week, so at him for obvious. What were we gonna say about Spears?

00:46:43
Speaker 2: Oh, I was just gonna say. The three teams I've seen with like trade rumors for running backs are the Titans with Pollard, the Brown yesterday there's a report that they might shop a running back, and then the Jets with Breese.

00:46:57
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jerome Ford has been kind of like the the go to for like the cheaper, like capable back that could go somewhere like Jerome Ford. If you want to add him even right now, just to see if anything happens. Feel free. But Richard Smith, we already talked about him. Keep an eye on him on the on waivers, Tank Bigsby because Saquon Barkley had that injury. It sounds like it's not serious, but you never know. And then Dylan Samson and Jerome Ford. So I have both of them on this list. Sampson because of the Quinchot judg Samson because of both the Quinchot Judkins injury, but also I guess Jerome Ford as well, but also because if Jerome Ford got traded, then Samson could have some usability as like the pass catcher in that backfield and probably get some work out from from Judkins and in PPR formats might be a little bit attractive. And then Jerome Ford if he does get dealt to like New England, if this remandray injury is worse than expected or h you know, Kansas City or something like that, then it could be a good spot for for Jerome Ford. Isaiah Dave this he's been getting run as a receiver. But also you know, Breese Hall could get could get I don't think Breese Hall is gonna go though, Yeah, I really think he's gonna stay. Uh. And then Blake Koram I've I have a lot of Blake Korum because during buys and stuff, people have been dropping him. But he has some like natural usability to begin with, because they they're splitting that backfield more than they did last year.

00:48:24
Speaker 2: Uh.

00:48:25
Speaker 1: And then in these like really insane positive game scripts like we might see this weekend, Blake Korum could be usable in those in those instances, and there's obvious contingent upside if Kyen Williams goes down. I love Jarquess Hunter, but they've been pretty clear with Terrence Ferguson with Blake Koram last year, they're not gonna rush these rookies onto the field. And Blake Korm looked pretty good this year. So Koram is someone that I think everyone should be stashing right now, and he's not rostering nearly enough leagues when you consider that's one of the best situations for a running back period across the league. So I think Blake Korm needs to be needs to be roster in more leagues.

00:49:01
Speaker 2: All Right, I was gonna ask about two players, this guy being one of them. Actually you can say three if you want to add Diami Brown to this list as well.

00:49:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't updated it with the with the Travis Hunter news. Yes bad, but yeah, we'll put We'll put Parker Washingt on here and Dianmi Brown as well. When we get to these wide receivers. I'll just get to him right now. Brandon Ayuk forty one percent of leagues that he's rostered in right now. You know, he could be back as soon as like week eleven, so keep an eye on him. Jaden Reid and Christian Watson. Christian Watson already getting some run. Jayden Reid could be back from that collarbone sooner rather than later. Darnell Mooney, I get people there. There's one person in the Spotify shout out, shout out Arthur in the Spotify comments, who ever since last week's game with Darnell Mooney, every single episode that I publish, he keeps saying, what are you going to talk about Darnell Mooney? Because I talked about adding Mooney on a fifteen Transactions episode and then Mooney had this opportunity last week and he completely s the b And It's like, I talk about like one hundred different players a week. I'm not just gonna go like, hey, I missed out on this Waiver Wire ad with Darnell Mooney. I was wrong for the It's a one week thing. I don't know what's what's gonna happen rest of season. But yeah, I was wrong so far. I've been wrong so far with Darnell Mooney. But next week they get Indianapolis, and if the if the Atlanta offense kind of looks better this week, you know, then then you could see a scenario where like Mooney's more of a flex option next week, Jalen Nole not as much of a stash with with Christian Kirk seemingly being healthier and Nico Collins being healthy healthier. Luke McCaffrey's probably the Washington wide out that I would add. You know, Chris Moore is probably gonna get more run. I think Jalen Lane is a little bit more redundant to Deebo, and obviously Deebo's healthy, But Luke McCaffrey is someone to to keep an eye on. Tory Horton. I've added Horton in some leagues just because Cooper Cup is a little bit banged up right now and I think he's good. Uh, Jalen Coker, you can remove that about Lagett. You can probably just remove the Jalen Coker thing, but that's just a deep one. Those leget misspractice yesterday, So I added him on there, but those are the wide receivers.

00:51:11
Speaker 2: He's back, He's he's he's not sick anymore. I I'm gonna ask you to just roast this look ahead look ahead waved wire take because we just got news that the Titans ruled out Jeffrey Simmons, which is good for Kamani Vidal. He's a big defensive guy. Yeah, but also Calvin Ridley is out and they have a bye next week, so he could come back semi healthy after the bye. That's all I'm saying.

00:51:38
Speaker 1: I really is a target of trade discussion too right now.

00:51:42
Speaker 2: Yeah I would.

00:51:44
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be shocked if he moved. But yeah, chim ray DK. I didn't add him on here because I talked about him on fifty transactions. I guess I should have. I don't know why I didn't ad Chim Ray DK. We're gonna we're gonna replace Jalen Coker with Chim ray DK because DK not like a terrible prospect, like yeah, the real I'm gonna in the in the model. I need to relook the reaching stuff that I added this this last offseason with like get dinging players for being reaches and drafts and YadA, YadA YadA. But Chimrie DK like has a good breakout seventy two breakout score was like fringe top ten in this class. Uh, he's got good yak ability, plays special teams, but obviously has the speed and and he's like a an easier outlet for cam Ward that he hasn't had all year, you know, Elick I aman Or. The problem with him is, you know, he's he's he's a boom or bust kind of play like. He runs a lot of deep routes, and if you're not connecting on those, which you're not going to very often with cam Ward, it's gonna be a lot more difficult to be fantasy relevant. Whereas DK is an easier out like kind of kind of player, uh, who can do a lot after the catch. I think DK could easily easily be the the top wide receiver scorer in Tennessee rest of season.

00:53:03
Speaker 2: Okay, we already talked about Theo Johnson. You have a rookie tight end here and it's not Gunner Helm. It's Mason Taylor.

00:53:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not gonna have Gunner Helm in there.

00:53:13
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm I'm just letting people know it's not Gunner Helm.

00:53:17
Speaker 1: It's trending in the right direction for Gunner Helm, but not yet. Yeah. Look, Mason Taylor got dropped in a lot of leagues because the Jets are on by, So make sure that you look to see if he's on the waiver wire and pick him up. And then Harold Fannon not only is is Fannin just playing well, but David and Joku is also a possible trade candidate at the dead lane. I don't think that's a lot of these candidates are going to actually be traded, but I mean Fannon has standalone value without that, so you should still be rostered.

00:53:44
Speaker 2: It's fun to talk about, at least like the just the what if scenarios, like what if we need a roster? Is ISAA Davis for three weeks thinking that Briest Hall is going to be traded?

00:53:56
Speaker 1: Yeah? Or like or like what if we meet Harold Fannon's mom again next year? We can talk more about Harold with her. There you go.

00:54:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, We're gonna get to the quad box section. And I'm just gonna let people know that you can't pick the Ravens Dolphins JJ because that was last night.

00:54:18
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm taking it often, but let.

00:54:22
Speaker 2: Letting people know that, yes, there is a Monday night football game, an island game, because some people complain these are just island games. Yes, there is no games that's the Cardinals versus the Cowboys in Monight football that for fantasy reasons, we'll be really exciting for people that have all these fantacy assets. There's gonna be a lot of people that are celebrating and.

00:54:45
Speaker 1: We're all gonna be sweating games on Monday. Yeah, for sure.

00:54:49
Speaker 2: So I'm just gonna go ahead and put that as as my obvious game is Cards versus Cowboys.

00:54:55
Speaker 1: Okay, And as you do that, I will do the Chiefs and Bills because that is also a very obvious game this week. Wow, why you why? Why are you doing? The SpongeBob meme.

00:55:08
Speaker 2: Just felt like it just felt like it could get could get crazy. All right, So we've got these other games going on. Man, I kind of want to choose forty nine Ers and Giants, Seahawks and Commanders of Sun Night Football game.

00:55:27
Speaker 1: Not going to choose forty and Giants. Yeah, forty nine Ers and Giants.

00:55:36
Speaker 2: What's wrong with that?

00:55:38
Speaker 1: You're gonna pick the You're gonna pick Mac Jones.

00:55:42
Speaker 2: Well, the other side is Jackson Dart. I got tyrone Tracy. I got lots of tyrone Tracy bags.

00:55:47
Speaker 1: This is just a what like what you specifically?

00:55:50
Speaker 2: Juwan Jennings is heating up? You know, I kind of want to see that pick. No, no, no, no, no, quickly see what I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go something different. I'm not gonna go Vikings line Lions. I'm gonna go Falcons at Patriots.

00:56:03
Speaker 1: That's actually not a bad pick. That's an interesting enough game. I'm gonna finish it with Vikings Lions. I like the indoor game, and I like the JJ McCarthy storyline. I think that you could have gone Colt Steelers Seahawks Commanders. I'd probably power rank the forty nine Ers Giants like sixth out of the remaining games here.

00:56:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, it's probably I mean, you're probably right as far as it's got a lot of people.

00:56:32
Speaker 1: But what I want to just I want to I want to battle a little bit, have a little disagreement.

00:56:37
Speaker 2: I mean, if Rock Party was in, I would love it, but Matt different. If Rock Party were in, yeah, but niners or two and a half point favorite. It's got a decent enough team total that are games.

00:56:48
Speaker 1: I'm actually surprised at that over under.

00:56:52
Speaker 2: The big thing is, if you look here, we have more than a half a dozen games that have big game totals or at least like not terrible. So it could be in for a good exciting week this week. I know some people are struggling with injuries and byes. We had people that were, you know, you know, just threatening to end their fantasy football season after today's injury news, Like just hang in there, Crazy things could happen.

00:57:22
Speaker 1: Crazy things will happen, you know, yeah, like yeah, I also just saw a report that says Ben Johnson acknowledges that at some point the Bears may have to consider giving DeAndre Swift a week off.

00:57:36
Speaker 2: Can you imagine if Roshawn Johnson did not have a back issue.

00:57:39
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, look like I said, DeAndre Swift is out this week, it's it's Kyle manunga week. I mean, he's he's in a really, really, really good spot, and I think he's a good enough running back to be able to handle a big workload and like be fine you know, in those in those spots. I just don't think he's special.

00:57:53
Speaker 2: Lots of late round running backs that are popping this week. Yeah, so just good for those zero or Alpha RB teams that you know you've got that are in contention. Okay, JJ, that does it for the show.

00:58:11
Speaker 1: Again.

00:58:11
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00:58:31
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Speaker 2: It download right, Yeah, we just want the download. JJ, you have any thoughts.

00:58:43
Speaker 1: No, I'm excited for this week, and I'm sad about Travis Hunter, but I think there's a lot of fun storylines that could come out of Week nine. I'm excited for it. Yeah.

00:58:50
Speaker 2: This is kind of like it's not just do or die for Trevon Henderson. It's it's kind of do or die for some of these fantasy teams too. Like if you're if you're three and five, you don't want to be three and six. Yeah you want to be four and five. Yeah, you want to be training in the right direction, and that's what the show is doing. I appreciate everybody for tuning in. Leave some comments, some feedback, maybe some hearts.

00:59:11
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00:59:13
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00:59:28
Speaker 1: Sponsored by Draftings.

00:59:30
Speaker 2: Yeah but yeah, but right now it's sponsored by Draftings. But next week, next week, yeah, yeah, it won't be. It's that cadence we were talking about.

00:59:38
Speaker 1: I know. Okay, here here, redo it, Okay, finish it up here, here we go.

00:59:41
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So that will do it for Week nine, the Late Round Fantasy Football Show sponsored by Draftings.

00:59:49
Speaker 1: All right, hey,