BIG FACTS Rewind: YUNG JOC
In this REWIND episode, actor, media personality and rapper Yung Joc sits with the BIG FACTS team to talk about being on Love & Hip-Hop, the infamous 42 Dugg rap lyric, losing his passion for rapping, his former label BLOCK ENT and more!
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2025-05-14
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00:00:00 Speaker 1: Big Bang it is. You don't be on nothing. I be on Okay, So let me bring you big Big Facts. Visit the new website today, Big factspod dot com. 00:00:14 Speaker 2: From the Trap Music Museum. You know who it is, DJ Screen, Big Bag Baby J. We are team Big Facts and today we want to welcome the actor, the rapper, the media personality Young jat the Big Facts or something. John a long time coming. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, my brother. How you feeling today? 00:00:30 Speaker 1: Feel great? Feeling great? 00:00:32 Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, So do you actually still go to the studio and do you still rap? 00:00:37 Speaker 1: Do you still make music? 00:00:38 Speaker 3: I do a lot of producing, okay, you know, it's kind of like I don't really have I'm not as passionate about rapping. 00:00:46 Speaker 1: So it's not like just get in here and just do something, you know what I mean. You still perform your hits for the check. 00:00:53 Speaker 2: But yeah, but you ain't going in there saying I'm working on no album, EP mixture, you know, ship like that. 00:00:59 Speaker 4: Basically, they got to get what you already gave because you're not coming with nothing new. 00:01:02 Speaker 3: It's not even necessarily that. It's just like being inspired to do that. You know, I'm gonna keep it the buck with you, you know what I'm saying. Like you know, sometimes when you had certain dreams and you live out that dream, you realize that you have other dreams. 00:01:16 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 00:01:17 Speaker 3: Now, some people couldn't live decades long, you know, successfully as an artist and living out their dream, you know what I'm saying, And so other people have to figure it out. When that don't work, or it's not working as big as you want it to be, you have to move on to other things, explore your other options. 00:01:35 Speaker 2: Do you miss it? Not at all? I still get it. 00:01:40 Speaker 3: I mean, consider I still travel, I still do show folks still say them words, they still get in citing them songs, they still have for pictures, they still pay to con see me. 00:01:49 Speaker 5: So is that lack of passion? What kind of made you transition from a rapper into a radio. 00:01:57 Speaker 3: Personality or how did you get into the whole radio? So you gotta think, you know, the TV thing came first. So imagine me being at the top of my game, you know what I'm saying, first year coming out to put while you did ten million shit all over the Forbes. 00:02:14 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 00:02:15 Speaker 3: And you're like, okay, but I really want to do something else. I want to do more right. And then people always be like, why you miss your calling? Why you sitting there here? But the world didn't see that. So that was kind of like my private thing with people I know or come in contact with somebody, you know what I'm saying. With some personal shit, they're like, why you fun to hear you miss your calling? Like what I'm popping? 00:02:36 Speaker 1: I own? I'm living with dreams. 00:02:38 Speaker 3: You know at this time, I'm Grammy nominated, platinum or multiplatinum Martis. I'm like what you mean? They're like, man, you you need to be on TV or something. So when you know dropping hits, when that shit ain't hitting, when it ain't hitting, you gotta figure out where you know, stick and move. So that's when I went to reality TV. 00:02:57 Speaker 1: So you're firm believing know when to say when hey man. 00:02:59 Speaker 3: Here, yeah, yeah, because imagine you put your money into something, put your money in something, put your money into something. Either you ain't got the right people on your team or it just ain't meant for you no more. You're just not really doing it the right way. Possibly, you know what I'm saying, Who's to say what it is. But when you notice, Okay, well this shit, I gotta be smarter than this because I'm dumping revenue, reverend revenue, and if it ain't no real return, you gotta start looking for what's gonna return. 00:03:23 Speaker 1: And here it is. 00:03:24 Speaker 3: You know, think about how hard it is to make a hit record For some people that it just happens, right, But you get some people you ain't seen Nigga his whole life and not the blue He's just start right. It took me his whole life to come over with a hit. Then after that sometimes they don't have no more hits, right me? When I come to TV, I know I can say some shit is gonna make you think. I know I can say some shit that's gonna make you laugh. I walk in the room and make you laugh for one second. That if I do that, that means I'm entertaining. If I'm entertainer, that means I be paid to entertain. 00:03:51 Speaker 1: And that's what I do. 00:03:52 Speaker 2: What you think it was in your life that inspired them hits? Because that run was crazy. It's going down, knock it out, dope boy man, shake doing bad all that shit, Like what was going on your life? 00:04:02 Speaker 1: Different? 00:04:03 Speaker 3: Then that you think inspires you to make them hiss. I was younger, I was hungrier for that lifestyle. I lived that lifestyle. 00:04:11 Speaker 1: I know. I see the fake shit that going around. 00:04:12 Speaker 3: It's so much captain and I don't want to, you know, shoot the negative energy in that space because I still love the space. But it is, you know what I'm saying, everywhere you go, somebody pretending y'all good until you need them. 00:04:26 Speaker 1: What's the fake and shit? You seen fake? You should? 00:04:31 Speaker 3: I say, you're like the most cappy ship like man and shit so fake. I've seen the situation where you know, my homie, you know, not even bring it up. But I ain't gonna say our names in it. But I basically had did a record with him, right And when I did the record with him, we was in like we weren't in the group. We were just recording this shit. He went want to do his thing. I went on to do my thing. He came back later with the same song and he felt like it was a hit record that wanted me on it. I was like, you know what, I respect that because when. 00:05:10 Speaker 1: He came to like this, I was on. He didn't want you on me? 00:05:13 Speaker 3: No, no, no, he brought the record to me, and I had no problem with that because at the end of the day, it still came back around and allowed him to have his ownership in this position as an artist like. 00:05:23 Speaker 1: Yo, I gotta deal over here kind of. 00:05:26 Speaker 3: I was like cool, you know, and to do the record, you know, they didn't They didn't just get it through me. 00:05:33 Speaker 1: They went through Block, and. 00:05:38 Speaker 3: You know, Block told him a number because I don't think Block really wanted it to happen, and when the number came back, he couldn't fucking believe. I don't know nothing about the ship and that thing. No, Block dropped me off a little piece of a chick that he doesn't hit for. You know how the game, you know what I'm saying, and the artists come to me like, damna, we're supposed to be bigger than that. 00:05:56 Speaker 1: How you gonna throw immediate? And I'm like, I don't even know what you're talking about. So you feel like Block put you in the blinder. 00:06:01 Speaker 3: Now, I wouldn't even it wouldn't necessarily just Block put me in a blender. It's the game, and when you on the outside, you think you're on the inside, but you ain't really made the way on the inside. 00:06:10 Speaker 1: Of that shit to understand how the ship get fixsed. 00:06:13 Speaker 3: You start going off your emotions and you feel like, damn, when nigga, we supposed to be boring, how you gonna charge me that? 00:06:18 Speaker 1: That my budget? And I'm like, nigga charge you with Yeah, I ain't putting no charge on shit for you. 00:06:22 Speaker 3: I love your nigga, be good, but the deal to the being it done up, so I'm suposed to go get him the money back. You see what I'm saying. 00:06:29 Speaker 1: So it's a situation like that, and we'll be like, man, this shit was so crazy, man that this shit could have turned to some old other shit. You know what I mean, the way you feel like you gotta resent me to it to the day. Oh he did for a while. You know, we spoke on it. You know what I'm saying without saying on names again, I did say block main't not trying to. I had to. 00:06:45 Speaker 3: I needed one variable that you would understand in the situation. You know what I'm saying. You know we don't. 00:06:50 Speaker 1: We don't. He apologize about it twice. 00:06:52 Speaker 3: You know That's that's when you sit back like, damn, maybe maybe I know the game on them and he was more open to being like, you know what I see how to play went yeah, you know, and I can. 00:07:01 Speaker 1: Respect that. 00:07:03 Speaker 2: Speaking of a block former business partner, like do y'all still speak? You're still good with Block? 00:07:09 Speaker 1: Oh? 00:07:09 Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting, man. You know, you just don't know where you at was about. Okay, you know, let's be honest. You know what I'm saying. 00:07:15 Speaker 1: I seen him, Oh well, you know, we've been it was good. 00:07:19 Speaker 3: When I say good, it was just according to business, we're good, you know, no hard feelings. But then you know, he went to went on the podcast. You know, he was on Bland and said ship and I was just like, I'm saying, how come on, I'm good, I'm talking. So look, you know it was basically about how I got black Ball and why I got black Ball. That he basically said that I sold Ricoco Brooks. 00:07:53 Speaker 1: That wasn't the case, That's what. 00:07:57 Speaker 3: And when I tell you to be honest, man, that guy was one of the most phenomenal people in my life. Yeah, so for somebody to say that, I just cut them out and it happened like that. So I went to the podcast, you know, in my rebuttal and it you know, it went the way it went. I ain't hurt nothing since that. I really don't care. 00:08:18 Speaker 1: So you do you do? 00:08:19 Speaker 3: You do you take accountability that somewhere in your career you you got to big here somewhere. 00:08:24 Speaker 1: Did you ever feel like you count the light one time? 00:08:26 Speaker 3: I was always chill. I wouldn't you know. I ain't missed no flights. I'm in no shows, nigga. I did interviews, I did drops for people. I never turned my back on nobody that I fucked with. I don't think I ever did. And if I did, you know, it's been time. 00:08:41 Speaker 1: Nigga. You be like what's up? By Like, nah, I don't fun? Which is that ship? What's you looking right at me? In the club where you start? What club? Yeah? Yeah, bro? We was over there. Who whoo you? You looked right at me. I looked at you and you shook your head at me. 00:08:57 Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, I love you in real life to side to make sure you got a one treatment. But at the moment and hard for you to say that to somebody when they give you that nigga. 00:09:05 Speaker 1: Men, and you're like, bro, what is this coming from? And that be. 00:09:09 Speaker 3: Sometimes people be feeling some kind of way because it's like I don't want to do too much to get your attention. 00:09:13 Speaker 1: You might pott you think the nigga saw you. 00:09:15 Speaker 3: You like man, when I'm walking in Sowell sometimes you know I'm not looking you trying to look straight to where you're going, and you don't really want to make too much eye contact. When you make too much eye contact, it gives you engage people and they stop, let me get a picture, let me do this. So sometimes you just might be looking through a nigga. You know what I'm saying, not even trying to be on the arrogance. Well, I'm trying to do this right now. I just want to cause I stopped for you, I gotta stop for the un four people. Then when I don't stop for these three people, put saying and like god, damn, you know what I'm saying. You know the coach, I ain't gotta tell you how. 00:09:43 Speaker 1: To shit go. So you think you think just any ship that shit come with. 00:09:48 Speaker 3: Success, like people feeling obligated for you to, yeah, make them feel special. That comes all the time, But come with it because at the end of the day, you know, when you think of family, you know, you know when I eat you I eat yeah, and and sometimes people be more on the side of. 00:10:04 Speaker 1: You. We aight, and it don't be you eat. You know what I'm saying. 00:10:08 Speaker 3: What you can say the best and the worst times of being your job was like publicly that we know, like your best time and your worst time. My best time publicly that you know was the first b T with Diddy because but then my first time in this ship, like on the major level, like I'm at the BT ward Nigga, I'm sitting here and i can't remember who I performed, but I'm talking to some big ad names. 00:10:33 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, ship, you know. I'm like, oh, I'm. 00:10:35 Speaker 3: A fan mold, but I'm shulting. But I'm seeing there like, oh the nigga performed and don't nobody get up. I'm sitting back like what the fuck? Oh nigga, I'm like, okay, yam, I'm finna get ready to perform, like, man, sit down on me, fuck you, I'm just gonna do my best. Then nigga Paul said, God, turn them like down, make it sexy like came out on the got damn stay bring that up. And I've seen that motherfucker play stand up. I was like SHOs I have arrived because that was my moment. You know, it was live. So by the time I'm walking away, I'm hood get me every j blind somebody. 00:11:22 Speaker 1: Later yo. Yeah. 00:11:28 Speaker 3: So another thing that the worst one was, Oh, the worst was all easy man, nigga, Steven Jays, we don't got Dawn did the fucking this, this big man, and really we both. 00:11:41 Speaker 1: Lost the fucking bit, you know what I'm saying. 00:11:45 Speaker 3: So it was Ben over goddamn if I could do the standard, who gonna do the big standup? 00:11:48 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying for his show? 00:11:50 Speaker 3: For people didn't know that because I had got so hot about the ship that they just started breaking down. 00:11:54 Speaker 1: The whole publicity of it all, you know what I'm saying. You know how pr work. 00:11:58 Speaker 3: So we did the show and I did what I did standing ovation. I was like, yeah, my first time to doing stand up. He came up. 00:12:07 Speaker 1: Then and he did good. He ain't beat me, but for it being his show, they let him win. 00:12:14 Speaker 3: What did you Joe kind of rig because we were so we were like, shit, whoever lore this bit, nigga, you wanna have to wear a dressed So when the folks stood over me, I was like what you gonna look cute and ruffles, So then there were times to shoot the ship would have this, would have there, would. 00:12:30 Speaker 1: The funk shit came in there, but it ain't. It ain't. 00:12:33 Speaker 3: It's fun ship on the level of damn you got me, not like damn bro, you didn't wrong your way, you got me. 00:12:39 Speaker 1: I should have knew better. So we in hot, we in l a we in this space. 00:12:45 Speaker 3: God damn the bringing out there, like Bro, we're not feeling re dress. 00:12:48 Speaker 1: He like, man, fuck this ship, Niggai, nigga, We me and nigga. Niggas know that. Nigga know fuck it. You let a nigga talk you into that. Listen. This was also the big right no, no, no, no, listen listen. Don't not. 00:13:07 Speaker 4: Even get to the point to agree that the depth of the bat would be addressed. 00:13:11 Speaker 1: Because I said, I just said that ship. I knew I was gonna win. But since all the show I'm in, my nigg I'm gonna win. I'm ready. 00:13:19 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying that it's a no matter through that bit chopped though, and I wanted that motherfucker. So then nigga real nigga, she like you wanta go bull it by God, we want so boom. So this nigga got a dressed I'm talking about this nigga built this fucking and drummer. 00:13:33 Speaker 1: The nigga for this ship for the crazy. I'm like, man, I don't want to do ship. Fuck it. 00:13:37 Speaker 3: You know it's what it is. So we're going from hell. Let's say he's going from hell to nig though. You and your your sprind them in my spring. When we get done, like this ship cries man, we're gonna go take this ship off. And I got them boxes and white people. How we're gonna do that? Fuck this bit to open the door that nigga jonmped out dread like did I y'all not like oh too late? The carols on then floating or pulled off on it? So what I'm gonna do? 00:14:06 Speaker 1: Many did you find that happen? But it's so crazy. Nigga didn't look at it like I stood on my end as a man. 00:14:16 Speaker 3: No, I'm saying, you know, I feedboy booking on the bait, but you had already came with the flip she I know it. 00:14:23 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Came. It's just like what then y'all doing y'all know you know what I'm saying. I'm count keep the ribs. That was like, whoa you my man? 00:14:31 Speaker 3: You know you my name? 00:14:32 Speaker 1: Thing? I don't know that you think without ourself. Yeah, that's the whole thing. It was. It bang. 00:14:41 Speaker 3: Walking up the street like no, like nigga, what it is about Nigga? I said, give me a T shirt or take the nigga fin take like. 00:14:50 Speaker 1: No, no, move out the wad. So was trolling basically. 00:14:54 Speaker 3: You know, let me tell you one thing I learned about this ship man. You know that lanes people they take their lane and some lanes. 00:15:01 Speaker 1: You know something. Everybody want to be the number one nigga. Everybody want to be a trap star. Everybody want to be the ball. Everybody want to be the for Nelson or the ladies man. And I just like sh the same way when I want to love me about it, I was just like, y'all need want to be something else that so many people fight for that position. Just just do whatever you want to do. You're saying you cok in you at all time. People know that. That why Nigga tried me with Jones and ship or talking. 00:15:24 Speaker 3: He don't he don't heat the same cause I'm gonna be like, I'm gonna laugh with you if you're funny. 00:15:29 Speaker 1: That's just what it is. My nigga. 00:15:30 Speaker 3: Nigga used kind of run out of ammo when the nigga laughing with you at Joe jokes against him. 00:15:34 Speaker 2: When you said, when you when you see like the internet and the little nil thing going viral, like you just laugh at it. 00:15:42 Speaker 1: You laugh at it. 00:15:44 Speaker 3: Find out him took a shot from a pun of the nigga when I had that game some awake and I was like, God, damn a little bit right and it was a he heat to me. So then one day when the ship came out with the little help man, I was like, damn. 00:15:59 Speaker 1: Man, so more more hairstyleis is on the way? John? You know I just you know, hey, man, I just did some ship while I was going. I got you. That's a question to make sure. We asked said else when I get big fat, Hey, So what made you what made you just feel like you stopped rapping? Like what made you stop stop? Like? What incident it was? You know what I'm gonna tell you real interest of ship? Right? Uh? I had did uh? I did the record? We got it. I know what she liked. 00:16:56 Speaker 3: And when I did it, you know, it was interesting because I asked got He to do a record for me. He did that. Motherfucking no problem. I ad Wayne do a record for me. I mean, i'm'a keep it a hunting, I don't. I don't even know no other nigga in the business that ever did a verse for me that fast and easy, other than Low Wayne, Like I'm talking about close nigga, Like bruh, you know, fuck with me money, Yeah, got you. I ad Wayne that nigga had that shit back, like the nigga day type shit. You know what I'm saying. 00:17:22 Speaker 1: That shit we was like, damn, that's that's what solid is. You know what I'm saying. But I did a record with God and shit, I know what. 00:17:28 Speaker 3: She liked, and that shit was was just just happening on his own and we used to start moving around the shit and we was doing a lot of shows together and a situation happened with me and uh two chine what man, Well, he had did a record for me. I paid him for the rec he ll let me tell you that he gave me a love verse. I will say that he gave me a love verse and that shit was I think it was going in and uh, I was still signed this shit. So I came back, I did the ME and P did the deal master P no P from QC. 00:18:02 Speaker 1: Oh yeah. 00:18:04 Speaker 3: So me and P put up you know what I'm saying, uh some money eat front. We both put up thirty thousand to push the record. So I asked too, I asked two changs, you know what I'm saying, to do it for me. I'm gonna bring the money and the label gonna cut the rest of the check for him, So I'll just give you a deposit. 00:18:22 Speaker 1: On the label and cut the check. 00:18:24 Speaker 3: So they were time to get all the shit going, and we got damn got record the uh radio playing it in you know these markets, you know how you start up a record and you get certain markets and shit. And then when I was coming to two change, it was like we couldn't ever get the clearance on it, so the label wouldn't cut the check. And I was just like, damn, br I I just needed to look clearance on this shit, like do something. So we kept going back and forth with the attorneys and it didn't quite happen, and that shit kind of it it it it. It created a situation with me and P. They like, damn, bro, we don't put money up. You know what I'm saying. I'm just thinking about this. I'm really right here, me and P working on so you know what I'm saying, good shit, And it went left so here there I'm left holding the bad looking like the feel you're in the situation. And I was just like, you know what, man, I just I'm cool on this ship. I don't want you to go do something though, just to be a like, I just I'm just cool on it. It's just like it's it's when I get it. Niggas be having their own ship. They dealing with niggas having their own anxime. 00:19:18 Speaker 1: It's their own you know, mishaps they own upstairs all down. I just I just decided to just walk away from the ship. 00:19:25 Speaker 5: Did you ever get to the bottom of that situation and find out what happens? 00:19:28 Speaker 4: Did you ever like have a personal conversation with Tim about what happened? 00:19:33 Speaker 1: When I'm gonna tell what fun man? You know what? 00:19:34 Speaker 3: I man, You know we don't took shots at each other, but see this is the different like we the nigga we donet took shots at each other. But it's and it's still a little like on God, like you know how you niggas takes shots at each other. 00:19:45 Speaker 1: Nigga won't beef wan water. 00:19:46 Speaker 3: Me and TI don't. He walked up on me on three on three with the IQ shit. Yeah, he was like, why but at my son right now? He could show you that little money you owe me looking at like. 00:19:58 Speaker 1: Where you treating? Man? Wat chat? 00:20:00 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. But we were talking. It ain't no, we laugh, we tell the jokes. 00:20:04 Speaker 1: It's cool. So I feel like, you know what. 00:20:05 Speaker 3: Money Well, it was just the he didn't want. They didn't do the paperwork. They they would not sign off on the video or. 00:20:11 Speaker 1: The clearance of the record because money. The label well, the labelers asking I got oh, they won't. They won't. They want to get paid to clear the run and I want them to get but he gonna get paid where they The lawyer just came out one day. 00:20:24 Speaker 3: I was sitting on my sofa. She said, I'm just gonna give it to you straight. I don't think they even care to get this still done. At that moment, I was like, all right, cool and. 00:20:32 Speaker 1: I let it be. I wasn't even mad orbout it. 00:20:35 Speaker 3: I wasn't saw till about it, but it affected my relationship with Pete. He looked like, now, bro, I thought what we were doing? I thought, I'm like it was already missed. Yeah, so it's like it's that moment like like now I'm sitting there looking crazy and and and the reason Pete couldn't really you never hurt in the bottle because he saw the the BDS and the media based shit. 00:20:55 Speaker 1: So you see, you know how we you know we're working this record. I see they did the from some dog on yard station there edited out their word. 00:21:10 Speaker 3: Word it was count word for me, like, god damn, you feel you've heard this ship? 00:21:18 Speaker 1: I mean, I always tell the story, you know, it's just funny because it was in COVID. So I'm broadcasting from home when my mother fucking got sitting on a little bench swimming little leaptop and the night looking like this and ship feeling like ship. I get hilt of this ship, and I just kept. 00:21:34 Speaker 3: Seeing this little god damn charge of going sideway with the lit nigga hang out like I never caught the song like cause I guess they was just giving a little story promoting. 00:21:44 Speaker 1: I was like, but this ship here hard nigga came mess honest, little nigga. 00:21:51 Speaker 3: Damn got a little planking up from him and ship they dropped off at the radio station Defrail. 00:21:56 Speaker 1: So I'm like, I love this. I'm so happy that Peter winning like this. You know, it's like hm then won the house and the mom my grandma got Damn and brought some fruit. She's staying at the house and she brought me bowler from like, thank Grandma. She's like, yeah, little guy, Dawn Strawberry like that nigga, you know what I'm saying. 00:22:17 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, this is the ship for I turned the ship off far I go bro like jobs, which job? 00:22:28 Speaker 1: Job? You can't be talking about me? I said, what God damn. Then they think you know that ship you put on two together. 00:22:39 Speaker 6: This is the niggas and the chargers in my in my heart before I heard, before I heard the words and all that part, and I was just like, this ship didn't go. 00:22:52 Speaker 1: I love that little nigga that ship. 00:22:54 Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, I sound like they're gonna be two years of jail. You know that you ever meeting after the fact, never seeing me. But you gotta think to check this out coming out to the radios, coming about Yeah, I. 00:23:09 Speaker 1: Wouldn't listen, man, Nigga up man, that's home. 00:23:14 Speaker 3: I dash. You're riding in the coach your kids, and then you say said. 00:23:20 Speaker 7: Bro, you I'm driving, Yes, yes, sir. 00:23:35 Speaker 1: What's the what's the what's the she? 00:23:38 Speaker 3: I always asked two point quesse, what's the I guess the good and the battle being on love hip hop? 00:23:44 Speaker 1: Mm hmm, all right, so good. I mean, you really can't got now that she was a launch pan for anything you really want to do, if you for real about your business, you know, if you really you really it's a it's a it's a medium. It's just like that. Just like when I come on here and I just give such a great interview to y'all with. 00:24:11 Speaker 3: Y'all, somebody be like, Manniga need this whole podcast. 00:24:15 Speaker 1: Get you. I mean, he showed he could do it, and let's make this. Let's make this. 00:24:19 Speaker 3: It's like anything that we forget to ask. 00:24:23 Speaker 2: Just tell us here, go ahead, Okay, what's the bad? 00:24:32 Speaker 1: The bad? Sometimes but you don't know how nigga come out the bag on you? What you mean? All right? Perfect example, right, all right, so. 00:24:39 Speaker 3: You remember the nigga ruh who had the baby we got damn uh h Kurt. 00:24:47 Speaker 1: Okay? Cool? Anyway, you know Kurt was to have a baby. Yeah, man, yeah he had a baby. 00:24:55 Speaker 3: So yeah, come on, come on the same the girl had the baby by whom okay, who is? We're talking about the ship one day and I'm sitting there like, man, I know this woman and I just couldn't. I couldn't remember where I knew her from. 00:25:18 Speaker 1: So this scene happened when it came out, and then she said some ship that reminded me of that ship. And so when it reminded me, we still. 00:25:26 Speaker 3: Liked up and she said it, and the producers her where she knows you're from. 00:25:33 Speaker 1: Somewhere around the way I'm saying. But so she was like, you don't remember me, and I'm like me and my girl, and I'm like, oh yeah, yeah right, so jes man, we're talking about I don't know what's going on. 00:25:51 Speaker 3: Then she dropped I'm sitting in the scene. I don't know what the scene about. We dressed up as a master reade boy. Then Carly walked up and this bitch dropped their bomb boom. I'm like with the boone will. 00:26:02 Speaker 1: She preached me head the baby by Kurt. I'm like, oh my god, what the fuck is this? I'm like, what the fuck? 00:26:07 Speaker 3: But the productive heard she said, So they started asking me questions and ship like. So you know, I'm like, oh, you know what, I think maybe somewhere around the way. So one day I got damn in the scene. I walk up behind on its bullshit. I talked to security, right Jay, I'm like, I'm like, my boy was having like real sip. Who that the security? You know I'm wanting nigga, come on, said I fucking with everybody. Everybody gonna fuck. You know, I'm shore love. The nigga wasn't showing love today. 00:26:38 Speaker 1: I was like, I look, I see my pot who always be like sir. I like, my boy came for me. Yeah, like little like his energy was saying. So I sit down at the table. 00:26:55 Speaker 3: He was trying to blink like try like something like but it wasn't that he expected them. But it's just like, you know what they know. So I'm sitting at the guy, I'm sitting at the table. I'm sitting on chilling and ship. Then I kind of peete what going on? I'm looking around and I heard the name. And I heard the name, I was like, oh ship, So I took the boss stool next to me and turned that motherfucker around their way in case. 00:27:19 Speaker 1: Nigga tried, you know, do something to me. I ain't who the name I heard Rod. 00:27:29 Speaker 5: Just got locked out? 00:27:29 Speaker 3: That was that was her nigga. So I was like, hold on, I don't know who Me and Rob were cool? 00:27:34 Speaker 1: Who the fuck Rod? Though? He the nigga who go with the girl? He on the show? 00:27:38 Speaker 4: But then didn't he just get locked up for like fraud or something? 00:27:43 Speaker 1: Maybe? Yeah, that when my nigga was kind of don okay Rod on the show and then he trying to fight back. What's the name, baby mama? That's why I was listening to make it make sense. Let me ask you show. What I'm saying is of the. 00:28:01 Speaker 4: Fraud had a baby by the girl who had a baby, I mean, goes with a girl who had a baby by Kurt who's married to Rashida. 00:28:08 Speaker 1: So what he smoke with you? 00:28:11 Speaker 3: Because this man, from what they heard her say to me and the mic, they told him what basically like, hey. 00:28:18 Speaker 1: You know, I think Jock mal fucked around before and you want to fight you. He was mad because because asked. 00:28:24 Speaker 3: Me questions on camera and I'm saying she and I guess it's coming back to him. 00:28:27 Speaker 1: So he like, what did she do? Was you were saying about this man in this girl and say nothing about him? What you say? She said? What you what you said? I was just like, well, I don't know if I heard her or not. 00:28:39 Speaker 5: I was just like, you don't know if you hear her what you mean? 00:28:41 Speaker 1: I couldn't remember, That's what I mean. I sell listen to. 00:28:51 Speaker 8: You know, forgetting because like, because I can't change, I'll do ship different. It's just what else you know, y'all change different, look different, everything different. Y'all have a short heir cut the day mow y'all. 00:29:06 Speaker 3: Got locks, I brought arts change and look color change and eye color change. Mad, but you know this ship, yeah that works for you. So I wasn't shoot me. So anyway, I just was sitting there like, man, I don't know what this. 00:29:19 Speaker 1: Ship feel to be. 00:29:20 Speaker 3: Man, I just like I don't like the feeling of feel like a niggas gonna just try me on TV. 00:29:25 Speaker 1: So you had to get your balls ready. So this ship real, man. Sometimes y'all. I'm saying, sometimes you don't even know what you never. I don't even know. I'm not. 00:29:31 Speaker 3: That's just like I'm sitting right here to that nigga come out right here and you got that hit me with the guy nam like that that they. 00:29:38 Speaker 1: Set a nigga up. You don't know what the nigga really want to do, like why would you bring a nigg who I've been talking about? 00:29:44 Speaker 3: But he might say, but because it wasn't bad, like that wasn't no, it wasn't no whole being like, it wasn't like me running my mouth by a nigga. 00:29:50 Speaker 1: It was just the way that he is. 00:29:52 Speaker 3: The way it was kind of came back to him because she said what she said in the mic. They heard it so naturally when they started asking me questions about the ship, he asking they asking him, do you think jumping each other? So now get this won't be my nigga. He walking in the scene swroller like you already knew him. Yeah, But so when I hit the name, and I'm knowing what they're trying to put together, so I turn the chair around like ship man. 00:30:13 Speaker 1: I hope I won't have to hit that nigga. With the children and then he came in. He like, ship, so what it was? And he was real like hot deezel Man. I was just like, so what it was? What nigga like, you gonna swing on me? 00:30:32 Speaker 5: But say job. 00:30:33 Speaker 1: I didn't say nothing, but like what I'm saying what he think he think? I was saying that, Yeah, I fucked her during the time that Kirk fucked That's what I'm saying. 00:30:45 Speaker 5: Another nigga fucked her. 00:30:47 Speaker 1: What I'm trying to tell you ask me the bad. This is the bad. See how y'all get see how you know? That's how mother fucker is at home? What the fun going on? Then they be mad and when they see me, I know, then they keep the ship up. That's the bad. 00:30:58 Speaker 7: You get it? 00:30:59 Speaker 9: You follow me? 00:31:06 Speaker 1: Everybody like what and that speculation of this and that you out and about. That's why we keep a watch. You out here bragging on fucking man girl, I wouldn't. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Just the man we talking about. 00:31:15 Speaker 3: Now, let's tell you Mike and you Mike and no Mike, and then you just you you walk out and me and Jay still talking. She she forgets she might she knew that this ship, and she's like, why I remember that ship. 00:31:30 Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, oh damn. He wow, it's like your girl looking good? Who is like card you the whole girl? That ship? We both could get a job. 00:31:40 Speaker 3: I was like whoa and she went back through the why just that fast, I'll be some ship with a nigga I know and the crazy But while you gotta be careful playing these games on the TV show. As soon as I left from Now, I had to go to Stiletto Number Tino spot still little Tino. 00:31:56 Speaker 1: Look, I get over there, bro, show up. He don't even know it's my night. 00:32:02 Speaker 3: I'm gonna know with a hundred niggas, it's my night. I'm promoting that, you know what I'm saying. He looked at me and I'm like, nigga, what's up. He's like, oh, man, nigga. 00:32:11 Speaker 1: What's up? So I'm like, what's up? 00:32:14 Speaker 3: What? 00:32:14 Speaker 1: He like? Man? 00:32:15 Speaker 3: How you let them set me up? Like I said, nigga, you said you up like that. You came in there with your chests out on me. We laughed about it, but that's honorable of two men being able to talk that ship out. Mono and Mono without all the whole ship involved that come from the speculations and get people out with what going on. I don't know what the fucking on. I don't know if you're still with or not that ship. So I just had to give you one of the moments. 00:32:41 Speaker 1: Baby. I guess yeah. 00:32:44 Speaker 5: They Yeah, the baby's like brother what like eight now? 00:32:48 Speaker 1: No baby? This this this is in jailven no baby. It might be like five or six or seven or something. I don't know. All I'm saying is I. 00:33:07 Speaker 3: Came on in the third season being Season and Living Now, so I've really been on them for like. 00:33:15 Speaker 1: Teen season. 00:33:17 Speaker 3: So this is really I've been on there like eleven seasons. Because some of the seasons we were doing other shows. They didn't count the seasons, but they still was loving hip hop. So it's like we saying season Living now. 00:33:31 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But you know how they can make some work to make some work that did. 00:33:36 Speaker 4: So let me ask you just going back to like the whole reality TV and like how you said you have to like leave off with things with people at home making their assumptions and shit like that, right, So another like primary focal point of your reality career has been your different relationships along with most recently like your marriage to Kendra, right, And my question to you is, like taking into account the infidelity and baby. 00:34:07 Speaker 5: Rumors around the marriage, the whole thing. 00:34:10 Speaker 4: About the child abandonment with your other baby moment and all that shit. As a man, how does it feel to have to kind of reprove yourself to your fiance and also to the world so that they don't have a negative perception of you. 00:34:25 Speaker 3: Okay, So for one of the most important thing would be about fiance because for your wife now, well at that moment, that's know what I'm saying. So my wife, now that's most important, you know what I'm saying, because the world let me tell how. 00:34:38 Speaker 1: The world work, especially in this day and time. 00:34:41 Speaker 3: Yeah, you could be the most talked about shit today tomorrow at the same time this week. That shouldn't be forgotten about because it's so much bullshit coming each and every day, so much content that people bury that ship until it comes back up, and then they don't even feel that they be done. 00:34:56 Speaker 1: They even feel differently after so long. But rebuilding that truck who my wife was very important because that was that was that was very difficult for us to go through in front of the world. Your wife on the shore too. 00:35:08 Speaker 3: Yeah, and and to be honest, you know what I'm saying, that really wasn't her world. But I just wasn't feeling be I wouldn't finish. I couldn't know. 00:35:17 Speaker 1: I couldn't no longer do that cap storylines. 00:35:21 Speaker 3: And I ain't never had no fake storyline, But I wasn't finished starting that she would I can't because. 00:35:27 Speaker 5: It has to be love and hip hop, So you have to have a love interest. 00:35:31 Speaker 1: On the hip hop show. 00:35:32 Speaker 3: She got to think by the time he and car it broke up, it's like she we ain't even rocking here. It is me and her still got down having run in every fucking day on ship. You know what I'm saying, But that he and all that that ship don't even it's just what it is. So you brought your wife on the shore, they castle like did she come in through you? And it wasn't even something to say another right, Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like she she owned the. 00:35:57 Speaker 1: Show on the show, not just. 00:36:00 Speaker 4: She's like she's she's an attorney. She's not just like a personality on. 00:36:04 Speaker 1: The I can't do that ship. You do good. You drop, you drop bombs, you say ship have people repeating what you do, what you're doing. 00:36:16 Speaker 2: They set up a bad moment for you that you just like you say what they set up a bad moment for you, like you were just talking about. 00:36:22 Speaker 1: You know, it's crazy sometimes you don't even know where the bad moment is. Yeah, I'm saying, but. 00:36:28 Speaker 3: What I said though, it takes a certain type of It takes a certain moxia, and so you got to understand the platform that you're And that's why I've been on that for so long. 00:36:35 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 00:36:35 Speaker 3: It's a lot of niggas that came and win a lot of people, pero. But it's just the understanding of what people look for when they watching TV. 00:36:41 Speaker 1: People. You know, people want to deflect their own goddamn problems. People want to. 00:36:47 Speaker 3: Deflect their own trials and relations, and they'll whether talk to yours because it gives them a sense of escape. 00:36:52 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know, you sitting up broken, Look when your pocket hurt, ain't nothing like hearing another nigga broke story when he broke it in, don't feel that bad. You know what I'm saying, so that's how reality TV works. So for me, I know what it is. I'm coming on that and don't be transparent as possible because I don't care what people think. I really don't nigga that one of them. God damn. Yeah. I want to mercy by pad cause John, what you think the biggest day? We don't say it, bro. 00:37:34 Speaker 2: All, what you think the biggest The biggest misconception is about young job Like the ship that you hear on the internet, of the streets that people say about you would make you think like, man, these folks got me fucked up. 00:37:48 Speaker 1: That's a good question. I really don't know, bro, It's be some much crazy shit. You know, you know the broke jokes. You know women like that real quick about the broo. 00:38:00 Speaker 2: You ain't think that with the cash up ship happened, Man, okay, you ain't think that with the cash ship happen, that was gonna heighten. 00:38:07 Speaker 1: Something really interesting. 00:38:08 Speaker 9: Yeah okay, So Amas, imagine the nigga coming to you because you know how to market, right, you know how to market like that. 00:38:19 Speaker 1: So listen, imagined a nigga come to You're like, man, I really love the way you market ship. 00:38:25 Speaker 3: You have a new product is an app, and I need somebody to help me with the marketing life one. Let me see how she works. When take how shit works, I'm like, oh, may you feeling get rich? Reach like that ship gonna work because it was a subscription based app. So instead of taking forty percent of your money like most apps do, you just paid ninety nine dollars a month. 00:38:48 Speaker 1: So imagine paying one hundred dollars a month apost get. You see what I'm saying. I opposed if you make a thousand dollars a week. Nigga taken for money? You said, niggas and don't have bank accounts and ship No I'm talking about Are you talking about cash up? I'm talking about the cash up? You were talking about the ship? What ship? 00:39:06 Speaker 2: That? 00:39:07 Speaker 1: That? That was? Yeah? 00:39:08 Speaker 5: So it was like it was fetitious. 00:39:11 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was like, how can you make this ship go out? 00:39:14 Speaker 5: But I thought the lads really saw you driving the car? 00:39:18 Speaker 1: Yeah, they talking about you was doing that, you know, you know on the rain. 00:39:51 Speaker 3: So the niggas when he asked me, I said, she and I do it. And so he had these people that work with him, and I was like, sip man, just give me them too bad. Just give me them two I said, sitting in the back of the car, and he said, what you're gonna do? I said, I'm gonna drive the thing. He's like, I don't think that's gonna work. I said, it's gonna work. You want people to know about your brand or when you see how you I said, this shit gonna be the be I said, people don't. 00:40:13 Speaker 1: Probably talk shit about me, but for the right price, I'm gonna do it. And I get thirty percent of the company. But that was no brander. 00:40:20 Speaker 7: Let go. 00:40:21 Speaker 3: I went right outside of the radio station, hopped in the car, and the people who drove in the bad You really gonna do it? 00:40:26 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I'm feeling hit record y'allready? 00:40:29 Speaker 3: So we did, and that ship went out instantly, people were onto the app and so to go to his headquarters and you see hundreds of people coming down to sign up. 00:40:37 Speaker 1: I mean, he's Fela start making money. So am I. 00:40:40 Speaker 3: But COVID hit and that ship changed all the guidelines for mobile transportation. 00:40:47 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I like, God, damn, I took the blow. We all moved that on to the problem. Last trou COVID fool. That ship was your life. Damn. Now I gotta be gott struck around nigga talk about. 00:40:57 Speaker 3: Don't broke what you what you feel like your purpose? In my purpose, I believe I inspired the aspiring. You know why cause there's a lot of niggas who gone took off but couldn't take off of you. Everything I gotta ever did, I took. 00:41:11 Speaker 1: Off with it. You know what I'm saying, And that's just that's me. That's me humbly speaking. You know what I'm saying. 00:41:16 Speaker 3: When when you speak on you know, seventy eighteen years ago, to drop it's going down and take off. Go number one, get your platinum plaques, you know, be Grammy nominated, to get the band right. 00:41:28 Speaker 1: Then you go from that shit to putting out other artists. That's cool for a minute. Then this thing, you know, Boom, I'm doing real of the TV. Boom, I go get a dumb bag off of it. No matter what people say. You just gotta understand what you're doing, you know what I'm saying. Then going for that to do radio. Nigga shot about radio, but within three years I'm syndicated. 00:41:48 Speaker 3: What you think though, what you think that they put you in a space to well, all right, now I gotta go now, I gotta got dawn have a situation with two chained for us. Nigga don't want to clear the record? What you think put you in that space? Like they were talking about black mom, Like, what you think put you in that space? What niggas just be like you know what I'm saying, Like he didn't want to clear the record? 00:42:08 Speaker 1: Yeah, just period, not just two changes? Whoever? Like man like. 00:42:14 Speaker 3: Record, Like Nigga sent out of memo with y'all that should have go around fast and that's cool if if that's how it go, I could kill less about. I'm just saying, like, what you think put you in that space? 00:42:25 Speaker 1: Like somebody? 00:42:27 Speaker 3: I just think sometimes misunderstandings with niggas. Niggas too sensitive, Bro, we were so gangst to what we're so sensitive? I'm like, niggas be so gangster, Like why you think so many niggas be really God damn call themself. 00:42:39 Speaker 1: Ops. 00:42:39 Speaker 3: It'd be some sensitive ship. There'll be some ship. Did you step back and be like, could have squaite that ship? That ship wouldn't evening to be right about. But niggas, niggas niggas. Niggas. 00:42:50 Speaker 1: Yeah, YEA tell you something. I don't have been a free pick for a lot of niggas. You know what I'm saying. Jesus, Jesus, Jesus did it twice. Jesus said he. 00:43:07 Speaker 3: About how next to mine, bitch, how bigger than my all right, said, I ain't trying to go broke like John Dad. 00:43:17 Speaker 1: I'm like God damn man who said he slapped my sister and slapped me and lot some ship. 00:43:23 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying with with with with what you thought I think would be happening, man, I don't take this ship is seriously the. 00:43:27 Speaker 1: Nigga man, the nigga beat. I don't know. Niggas just be like I can say it. They probably feel like ain't gonna say ship back, so you don't feel like you did nothing. 00:43:34 Speaker 10: You know how niggas beat like because sometimes you have to and why yourself like me doing like interesting? 00:43:41 Speaker 1: You know what's interesting? 00:43:42 Speaker 3: You know what's interesting though, And I have to take you back to this though for real real, gonna take you back like with blocks. It was a lot of niggas that went fuck with me because of because of home only matter disrespect him. 00:43:52 Speaker 1: I mean I keep perfect. I'm perfect. Example boost Mobile. I'm finna go on my tour. I'm finna go on screen tour. TI yeah, fifty cent on we out here. I'm god damn finna go up through the Bootsmo. Was finna come cut me a chick for two hundred fifty thousand? Matter of fact, she put up with the chick to rap from Bootsmoe right, So she had. I gave us some cell phone. Some chirps shit, so block like, shit, where my phone at? Like she is, she don't get no phone. She get in time like she look at me, and we go like, oh see, y'all didn't make sure I got a phone. We're like, you don't get a phone. What she's talking about it you're gonna get a phone. He was like, I see how y'all nigga doing it. So we're like, funny, it's my phone, nigga. So she comes, she comes with the chick. I come outside. She said, guess when that guy. I'm like what She's like, we're going. I look at the mother. I say, oh my god, damn, let go. 00:44:48 Speaker 3: You know that she finna pay for the bus, rapp and ship. You know the hotel all the shit. She come in Block walk in hell. 00:44:58 Speaker 1: Who is you? She's like, oh, woot, the woot, the woop. I'm just keeping on man, And he said, oh you the White Beach ain't got damn bring my phone. I'm like what. I'm like, boy, He's like, you got my phone or not. She's like, oh, well, actually I have you the upgraded models coming to have you, like three of them. He's like, damn with you today. She was like, oh no, they're actually getting overnight here directly see you beach get out. I'm like, hey, hold up, bron hold on, but you can't put me up. Check out this guy. Damn them about about no phone? Nah fuck that. We don't need that ship. 00:45:39 Speaker 3: Then when the tour call, I gotta play for that ship out about back it like, Nigga, that was a quarter to me in support. 00:45:46 Speaker 1: What you say to Block about that? I told him that that's where we started going. Look we started going instantly. 00:45:52 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, bro, I can't even can't play with this kind of ship. This ain't this ain't the move dog, But it been in so many relationships where he held some ship like that with people, to where people just kind of just so you feel like blocked fucking bag and did a lot of that, A whole lot of that, Bro. I mean, I'm not even I'm not making this interview about him at all. But you asked me a question and I'm just answering it in the most honest way and transparent way. 00:46:16 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's it, Sam, So he changed two feet down and you just like fuck him after that? 00:46:23 Speaker 3: It wasn't It was just like damn, bro, just little ship kept happening, you know what I'm saying. After a while, you sit back and be. 00:46:28 Speaker 1: Like, so, but could he have like, let's go take it back. Could he held a could he have a felt like the nigga make his idea somewhere and I felt it to be. You know what I'm saying is that because the niggas ain't just coming up with no nothing for that, Because. 00:46:51 Speaker 5: What's the bigger picture to make him flip out about the phone? 00:46:57 Speaker 1: Oh you said, what's the bigger I mean at the end of the day, she is she finla come pay for to support Because at the end of the day, you. 00:47:07 Speaker 5: Know what I mean, like, what what make what could have made him? 00:47:13 Speaker 1: What else? What I got I got. You know, when a nigga, when a nigga walked up on you and say, and with my phone, I see how she did that? 00:47:22 Speaker 3: Mean in the back of my mind you and whoever got a phone, y'all niggaly for me to walk up on you and say. 00:47:29 Speaker 1: Damn, I see how y'all need my phone? It ain't a bout the phone. You're bout y'all niggas on some slick side to speak. So it is just for the white ladies, y'all. You see, but you see the energy. That's the dumbest ship in the world. If that ain't the case, you know, if that ain't now you're right, you're right, and you been hit it on the head. Yeah, you're right. 00:47:54 Speaker 3: But but when you so so, let's say this, So when it's time for the Twitter, come on, who's gonna give up to support? It's gonna be Block entertainment and Atlantic. 00:48:02 Speaker 1: I think it just be a lot expectations. What's the expectation. Okay, I'm gonna what you hey, bank, we finl go out on the tour. We're gonna make by a little six million dollar. Let's say we're gonna make sick meaning right, she finished, not even seeing me. I'm gonna cut it in hand. Let's say we're gonna make three million. 00:48:24 Speaker 3: Dollars out of this tour, and she's gonna put up a quarter me in this company to pay for some of the ship that needs to be paid for. 00:48:31 Speaker 1: Because if she don't, it's gonna come out of my pocket. 00:48:33 Speaker 3: He ain't gonna come out of your pocket. Atlanta can't finish giving them no support. They ain't making no money off that ship. This ain't nothing to involved involved in them. You gotta put your own building if you've been paid off bit too. So if you ain't finna give me the money and they ain't finish, give me the money. That means I got to go in my pocket. So to keep you from going in your pocket, Atlanta going in their pocket, Job from going to his pocket. He goes to the company, finna give us a quarter meeting your motherfucking mind. If you think you see him, let you fuck of this deal now. Or if you think I'm gonna continue doing begging with you when you're doing signway money and ship like that, now, that's just mono mano, MA, we're two wrong men. Yeah, I don't be if we got a deal or not. Nigga, I got kids just like you. You married, You're like I'm married. 00:49:12 Speaker 1: Nigga. You got a house, I got a house. You pay taxes, I pay tests. Your nuts work? 00:49:16 Speaker 3: Why nets work? He ain't gonna trot me like no hope. And that's when we started going instantly. It's just like, damn, bro, you you tripping what I'm saying. But if you could think back before that, you know, because niggas being bigging with niggas around, niggas Ego go into play niggs dot getting their own paper, can you think of anything. 00:49:31 Speaker 1: Before the phone sign? 00:49:33 Speaker 3: Yeah? 00:49:34 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. 00:49:34 Speaker 1: Anything, you know what I'm saying, Like little ship in the studio over there. 00:49:39 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying that may have transpired it he could take away, you know certain you could, Bro, Nigga can take Like you said. 00:49:45 Speaker 1: Niggas is sensitive and emotional and operating their feelings. Okay, so. 00:49:51 Speaker 3: You know a nigga could take something away that you didn't mean, no type of way. But can you play back in your mind right now, like, oh he took that some kind of way. Damn when he's acting like that, Yeah, I know you get what I'm saying, have something you think. I know when you the big dog and your chicks on the line, your imprint on the line, you look like that nigga and you don't got a check off the deal, right, but you really got to sell some man was and produce to get some money. And the young nigga is having paper right now in your face because he getting his show money. 00:50:23 Speaker 1: It's a lot of it. His nigga stay gone, he booked and then I'm going up. So now your paper ain't nowhere, Ni, but his payper you know what, nig You know, that's one of them things that probably made the nigga feel like I gotta let that nigga know I'm still in charge. Basically, you're saying, because think about it when you let's say you as a chick. We all know how chicks work. Right, Let's say I got I got a check, you know, got chick coming. He had the art came rico. Yeah, they was in the management ship. But that's still so you said they start going up still on basil twenty percent. 00:50:58 Speaker 3: You saying, basically you start bing having paper, he's seen you having paper, start holding us. 00:51:03 Speaker 1: That's what you're saying, right, and then it was just him. It was other people around. I mean, they get it out. 00:51:12 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we don't let these people speak. It was just it was just other artists. Man, it was other artists. Niggas couldn't understand, you know, other artists that. 00:51:20 Speaker 5: Were signed to the same label at the same time as you. 00:51:23 Speaker 3: In that same time, because I mean, and this ain't no disrespect like so like boys in the hood, right, oh, like I love Biggie, you know. 00:51:30 Speaker 1: What I'm saying. My nigga's all three we do. You know what I'm saying. I had a love for Joe to too. You know what I'm saying. 00:51:39 Speaker 3: It's just sometimes some niggas purposely kind of stay away from you, Like I don't even want to to think I'm trying, you know how. 00:51:45 Speaker 1: It's a nigga be to have too much bravado, Like. 00:51:48 Speaker 3: Nigga don't even want to look like I'm riding your coach to the nigga before you, nigga. 00:51:51 Speaker 1: We this and you know so certain people. So you felt like when he came in, I'm got that going down, you know what I'm. 00:52:03 Speaker 3: You know, there is a transition trying to figure it out Jezus got damn took out this way, they still got the opportunity to go. 00:52:11 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And here it is. We're sitting there and you're going there in a position like that. I'm gonna tell you what crazy before applying here with the shorty T Pain came. 00:52:19 Speaker 3: We did buy you a drink. I told block wegon clear, I talked talked about it already, but t Pain did erect form. 00:52:26 Speaker 1: When you said that about it, Clearon, So t pang, no t bang is trying because this ain't negative to the artist. 00:52:37 Speaker 3: So Pain, he did buy your drink, and I said anything he touched when the go go, because then we got the magic so bloh, I think nobody didn't gonna do one with him. 00:52:45 Speaker 1: They do one with him. It's a fucking smash. 00:52:47 Speaker 3: It's really shorty, it's really show not that, but it's one of them. And we're sitting at the point where they got a new deal. So they got new money. I'm having money. I'm going up with these records and here opportunity. 00:53:00 Speaker 1: And they like sh They're like, well, I think we're finna do this, and then liken y'all gangster weed doing this Ship were putting out a song called Feelings Man stop, pad My mama died and I and I and I prayed about it because I really want to see the niggas winning. You know what I'm saying. 00:53:17 Speaker 3: I was just like, blah, I thank you, sucking up, I said, because it's gonna take a hood when the hood nigga gonna come one t pining records and he gonna have that motion, and god damn, they dropped their fucking record and got damn. Three month later, Plied came with shout and without a fucking hed them nigga like, man, we told you so that she created so much energy. 00:53:36 Speaker 1: You know, like ship on my head. 00:53:39 Speaker 3: They said that he else big fat. 00:53:45 Speaker 1: So you want the nigga got damn like gonna speak with it. I'm gonna tell you the truth. I have to. I have to because it's been too many times where I spoke up and niggas ate off that shiit niggas one because I spoke up. You know, realize she man. 00:53:57 Speaker 3: Sometimes you know, sometime niggas don't listen and just shit happened and then we're looking at you. 00:54:03 Speaker 1: You be like shit. 00:54:03 Speaker 3: I don't want to say. I told us because you don't take that in disrespect. So I'm like, when not even say nothing when when you uh w when Nitty Niddy was in in on all that ship too, right, I don't know what Niddy was in he I thought you didn't come out on need to beat? 00:54:18 Speaker 1: Yeah did when y oh, y'all ain't have it ain't going on like in a situation. 00:54:21 Speaker 3: So you know, it was just interesting, man, You know how that shit happened. You know that nigga paid the man for the beat for going down, you know what I'm saying. And I told her, I like, shit, but you got nothing, get a receipt. The nigga like, no, man were good man, we by Brody family. I don't know care receipt for the big summing, right, and like we'll get to that. So when the ship took off, he went and took it to JD So So done so took it to j D Yeah, cause he had to deal with JD So, j D rhynny more for really feeling like you got a rough yeah, and I could imagine how you felt that shit had to feel great, like wow, you don't rock me, yep, look home and didn't come and find out we don't mean feel to do what deal. 00:55:03 Speaker 1: We kned it. He was trying to do a five thousand dollars We just wings. We couldn't do that selling on a single situation. So really, Nick nigga, Nick, you know. 00:55:14 Speaker 3: He paid him for he paid him that for the beat, So he wanted to beat you on him to split five times for the beating there, Like. 00:55:23 Speaker 1: Bro, we're not gonna split no five times. I'm not even gonna do no. Sh you hit this record, but I know I did it. We did it, but this is all produce her agreement when we did it. That's why I was telling him, let's get all in order. You just just some man's right now. Man, you talking and we come up with a concept. 00:55:39 Speaker 7: I do. 00:55:41 Speaker 3: God damn agreement right here. What I'm saying, we're just talking like yeah, that's gonna be fine. We need to guy there and do this and that ship. 00:55:47 Speaker 1: Just start growing legs and take off time and time again. It was like it ain't like we sat on this going down. He's not like, yeah, man, when we changed money, it's china change business to be that what you're not hearing me? How fancy happened? We did the record and Nigga Nigga. 00:56:12 Speaker 3: When Nigga heard that record, Nigga like but that she's out of here that she thought Gregg Street had that motherfucking about a week my live reck Street had that fucking week and half. So it was we was trying to get Ship done. It just was happening so fast. It's like, but we need to get to be in the straight. 00:56:25 Speaker 1: I'm getting time. I don't love the county. They could have been right up. We got them three I said three sentence. I said that, but it is a nigga we've been rocking with. You know what I'm saying. What so what we like listen, listen, hear the listen listen here the lesson. 00:56:51 Speaker 3: So the lessen the listener was once he found out that we wasn't gonna do the deal with him. 00:56:58 Speaker 1: It went down. How put on the record when it were going up. 00:57:04 Speaker 3: When we're going up right with the day we can shoot the day we found out we gotta we got a budget for the video and it's get shot and then put a season to this up. So he put us in the situation like Ship, we gotta pay the So we had to come to the table. Once we got the paperwork done. We had to pay a nigga a certain amount of money and give him a certain amount of songs to do on the album. 00:57:21 Speaker 1: What'd y'all do that? 00:57:22 Speaker 5: Through an arbit writer? 00:57:23 Speaker 1: We did that with the attorneys. That nigga got chopped that up, Joe, you. 00:57:28 Speaker 3: Gotta that ain't ship. That was just like thank you, That wasn't ship because he still got the back and then he had a he had a deal. We had to deal with him what he was supposed to do two more records on the album. But after that ship, Like, man, we can't fuck with your dog? 00:57:44 Speaker 1: Who? 00:57:44 Speaker 3: Who if you could do a song with a nigga that's out right now? Who you wanna get in the like you feel like you'll make a hit. 00:57:50 Speaker 1: With worry of your nigga? Who you listen to us a lot of this ship? Huh? Who you listen to? Man? 00:58:00 Speaker 11: You know what it be? 00:58:01 Speaker 3: It's it's I'm gonna be real with you, man. Be so hard to listen to a lot of you niggas. But I do find myself. I'm serious, bro, so many nigga be talk crazy. I will listen to some future. I will listen to some little baby. I listen to some money bad yo. You know what I'm saying, what's crazy. I listened to some dog I listened to some Gucca. I listened to these niggas. 00:58:21 Speaker 1: But it's just sometimes I'm around so much of this ship, and I see so much of this ship be playing out so faking as propaganda. I don't I can't take it in so like even to call my kids. 00:58:33 Speaker 3: You sick with me because I don't really rhyme with music in the car me neither, because I just I just it seemed like you just had me, wanted to just I be on some other ship. 00:58:41 Speaker 1: When I'm listening to this I'm on when I used to do all kind of shit. You know what I'm saying. I just never I never promoted that signed me. I did all kind of ship. 00:58:51 Speaker 3: How you think I ended up moving around with the Dope Web because I would want but I just didn't want to be the dope Bay, So I just stun it my own growth lit. 00:59:01 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna do that. I want to do that. If you take the ship out love, which what's your chain? If I do it all over If I could do it all over them, I would have. 00:59:15 Speaker 3: I would have made suren't you know sign that got damn paper that made that niggatve receipt for that beat gotta produce agreement. I would have walked away from the situation with Block, even though he put me with didd it at that point. Really I was I think me and she could have handled it the way we wanted to. You know, he had his own relationships inside of Atlantic, so it worked. But it was the way he handled even those relationships and others that he wouldn't find of that made it go sour as well. 00:59:48 Speaker 1: So Blocked, you made the whole ship. I mean sometimes sometimes the hand on the ship got the ham on your ship, and people don't want to fuck with because the whole mon and yo. 01:00:02 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know, it's just it's one of them things, you know. But if I if I could do it all over again, and one thing I would do, I would I would have been no dollars not to go fuck with them bricks. I would have I was just black bird, don't fork with you know what I'm saying. 01:00:21 Speaker 1: It's pubing here what I just said. I would have mad, don't with them bad? They was coming in so fad. You know what I'm saying, Oh my god. And you know what, man, I probably would have handled some relationships a little differently. M in particular. Yeah, what you take what you take? Like I did that fun accountability. 01:01:14 Speaker 3: I don't know, because if you really just go back and think about me from todate or nothing, you ain't never really. 01:01:19 Speaker 1: Seen me running with no ladies. That's what you didn't see me running with nobody. No, no, no, listen, you missing the point. Any relationship not female, he said ladies? No, I said not just just periods. 01:01:37 Speaker 4: No, Like, what what I'm talking about is any situation that you had that went sou or went sour? 01:01:44 Speaker 5: Can you see any part that you had to do wrong. 01:01:47 Speaker 1: I know you said it's your fault, not that you do wrong. You'd be like brother, my father, fucking relationship up. 01:01:51 Speaker 5: But fucking yeah, you could say fuck it, but I mean at least admit that you fuck it up. 01:01:56 Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, you know, niggas just sensitive, That's all I would saying. So you've been the perfect nigga. You know what I'm saying. What I'm saying like. 01:02:11 Speaker 3: Anything that you know, but listen, that's what I'm telling you. Sometimes you just can't attach the people. 01:02:18 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you said you can't attach to people from being real. So basically his relationships like, well, you might be like, damn, I wish we would have. 01:02:26 Speaker 5: That's what we're talking about. Niggas, Like, what are you saying that? 01:02:29 Speaker 1: What I'm saying, I feel like I should have did that with we ain't rocking. We ain't rocking for a reason. For a reason right now. 01:02:36 Speaker 3: I can tell you got down twenty phone ombers of childhood friends that that that from childhood that I. 01:02:42 Speaker 1: Know, I agree with that. But I know some nigga that I just like, I did you know. 01:02:52 Speaker 3: What, bro, But we gotta understand just because you got a legitimate reason for what you did, don't mean you do some bullship. 01:02:57 Speaker 1: You're right, you know what I'm saying. 01:03:00 Speaker 3: If you do something to me, now I do something to you, it's like, nigga, fucking I'm standing on what I did to you because because you did it to me, because I got an excuse, or I may think you did something to me. 01:03:09 Speaker 1: You get know what I'm saying. 01:03:10 Speaker 3: Certain niggas feel like I can think that you feel this way but not haveing no communication about it. 01:03:17 Speaker 1: Then I go ahead and be like, fuck you m HM, Well, you know what I'm saying. Now, I'm saying fuck you. Now you want you? You discomboblated? 01:03:25 Speaker 10: You really feel like I can say it's a miscommunity. 01:03:27 Speaker 3: I can say I can say this with Rico Brooks like trying to paint that picture because you know what I'm saying, it was a thing. When I'm telling you, I'm like, look, bro, I'm trying to do this homeway and trying to do that. He basically telling me if I if I want to put out my own artists. 01:03:47 Speaker 1: He gonna sheolve me. So how's it gonna look? Will you managing me? And you and him? 01:03:53 Speaker 3: Got a management company? You managing me? But he talked me, he gonna sholve me because I want to put out other artists. Relationship I'm not gonna work. We're gonna fail. So the day I had to tell him, bro, we're gonna have to walk away from it. We have to pour ways. I didn't want to ways. So that so that's that's what caused you guys to split. Yeah, I mean Arizona business. I was in Arizona. I was in Arizona and god damn Verry Wise called me that said I would like to do the label deal with you, I said a bit, and that's that's a swat team. 01:04:30 Speaker 1: Like you finished dropped them nigga. I'm ready. 01:04:33 Speaker 3: I had already went to block block say you don't want him to do it? Looking with nigga stinky leg you know what I'm saying? 01:04:42 Speaker 1: Yeah, with that with that ship, I know that ship away? Uh flo work? Oh yeah, okay, I mean telling you've been mad twice? How you get out the first what you do? What I do? You're like what you say? How y'all let go? She left you? You left that ship. It was just like it was really it was a mutual How y'all get to that though ship? 01:05:14 Speaker 3: We just realized it wasn't working the moring how what I'm saying, like, what's what's the world? 01:05:18 Speaker 1: You wake up? You wake up? What say? Ain't working? 01:05:24 Speaker 3: As as an adult? You gotta really stand on what what's the reason for the sake of our kids? 01:05:30 Speaker 5: So you had kids with your first wife? Are you guys like still friends? 01:05:35 Speaker 1: Oh you said you're just misagreement like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. We didn't even have to go back and forth in court. None of that ship. We just we it was it is okay, and when we went our separate ways. How you knew it was time to get married again when you did? 01:05:51 Speaker 3: Because I knew how I knew, How I knew the level of power I have when I was mad, the level of focus, the level of focus that I have a little energy that you know, you know when you when you you know when you heard Kevin Gates talk about seeming retention, Well, I'm gonna talk about personal energy retention. And when you stop focusing on all this shit going on our inn juicing in the world, and you find something that centers you, you zero out all the bullshit and you focus, man, you become so powerful. You know what I'm say, I'm not gonna sit here till you man retain your seemen. It's gonna make you more powerful. And I'm gonna tell you some ship that And I ain't saying nothing wrong with that because I think it's kind of along the lines too. But I just realized that I was I was, I was stronger when I focused and sold that what I did. 01:06:39 Speaker 1: Mhm, yeah, nah, that's real. So you say you feel like how you knew she would have wanted them to marry her like what she do? Ship, Man, we just you know, sometimes man, a woman would let you sway them. 01:06:55 Speaker 3: A woman would let you sway her boat because of who you are, and because she would not allowed me to sway her because me being who I am, it allows me to really be dealing with an anchor. Somebody who's gonna got damn zerroom me out. Gonna tell you when you when you buy some bullshit, Gonna tell you why you do that? Yup, Gonna tell you do that. Yeah, going to jail, Nah that shit crazy man, Because I'm just wanting to me, like, you know, how you tell God something. 01:07:23 Speaker 1: I don't like to go against that no matter how they go. 01:07:26 Speaker 3: Like if I say I ain't gonna smoke no more, I ain't finish smoke no more for real. If I say I say I'm just gonna get a shit a break for a few months, I ain't gonna say, Well, somebody tell God I ain't gonna do I ain't gonna do it. So if I say God, damn never never, don't give a fuck out this ship going that I gonna play. 01:07:41 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna never leave you. I ain't go'na never leave you. You don't have to leave me. 01:07:45 Speaker 3: This is how I feel like I can't. I don't give if it ain't working. I can't say it ain't because I don't feel like I can get married again. 01:07:52 Speaker 1: Until you ain't married no more, yes, no, yes, what I'm saying I ain't. 01:07:55 Speaker 3: I'm never gonna leave that situation because I don't feel like this is this life. I told God, I promised, So whatever I gotta go through, I don't. 01:08:04 Speaker 1: I don't want to leave. I wasn't really trying to leave my first situation. It was just some events that took place that. 01:08:09 Speaker 5: Just like eating or some ship or something. 01:08:12 Speaker 12: It was just it was a little bigger than that, you know, sometimes bigger than cheating. A lot of a lot of women. 01:08:25 Speaker 1: Ships just other other things. Couldn't need the biggest Sometimes the dynamics ship, That's what I'm saying. Sometimes the dynamics and ship just way more important. She lied to you about some ship. I ain't gonna put the inn yob there. It's just yeah, it was just bigger. It wasn't even about cheating. It was just like, you know what, I think you want something different than what I want. 01:08:46 Speaker 3: And when you come to that realization, because if I'm your partner, I want to see you do the best. I want you to be the best friend for you and if you don't feel like you can be the best version of you and you giving me every excuse in the book after so long, I'm gonna pushing you. 01:09:01 Speaker 1: And it's hard for me to start pushing if I love you. But I'm on my end. 01:09:06 Speaker 3: I'm god Damn'm trying. I need I need somebody to give me that same type of push you know you can put in you get you get out. Yeah, And I just I didn't feel like I was getting that balance on that. 01:09:15 Speaker 1: What you think? What you think like because you're in radio, You're in radio, you're on TV. You know what I'm saying. So the coach is right there for nigga the young and old. 01:09:22 Speaker 3: Like what you do to remain God damn be able to connect with the nickt the ship that's coming, you know what I'm saying. 01:09:27 Speaker 1: So stay connected. That was the whole thing. Uh, that was the whole thing. With TV. 01:09:34 Speaker 3: I want to make sure I was able to remain visible and and show show people my wick and my character too, you know what I'm saying. Radio allow me to talk to people and connect with people, and on an every day basis, you don't. 01:09:48 Speaker 1: Got to log in and say, oh you got some scenes. You can hear it every day, and that voice, that's that's that's that's my tool, So why not use it? It's right enough for me? 01:09:59 Speaker 3: You know, I think one of the things got tired of waiting on Nigga. I'll get tired of wait on Nigga to book me. Come out of time. 01:10:04 Speaker 2: Ship. 01:10:04 Speaker 1: You don't want to wait. Don't Nigga book you ten times a month? You don't want to wait. 01:10:08 Speaker 3: I don't want to feel like I'm waiting on that type of money on what somebody else willing forgive me. 01:10:13 Speaker 1: You can't think them how to not so you know, I had clubs opened up, clubs and Ship in the city, so I like Ship. Why not you radio? They're gonna make more sense. 01:10:21 Speaker 3: I could drive the people that I with that fuck with me right to my establishment, make money with them, give them a good time, and continue to do that. 01:10:28 Speaker 1: And I don't know I can live like that. I'm on world too. Why why wash niggas shot at the perfect people to do that show with you because they love I like that they bring the instra is that I might be cause you know, When I first started the radio, you know, I was real like, hey man, I don't want no issue with nobody. Reserve real reserve. And then I started realizing that ship don't work. So you just gotta be. 01:10:55 Speaker 3: You know, you speak in your opinion, people restrict you just gotta stand on that ship the main thing, because you can say we're gonna be talking on the regular. I remember one day walking this ship is so fun, man, somebody, one of the interns put. 01:11:07 Speaker 1: A story out in the god damn on on our radio. 01:11:13 Speaker 3: I g paid, I don't know ship about it. I ain't heard about it. I ain't talked about it. The nigga walk on. 01:11:19 Speaker 1: Amen. I'm like, what what? 01:11:21 Speaker 2: What? 01:11:21 Speaker 1: Why? 01:11:21 Speaker 7: No? 01:11:22 Speaker 1: On? What up? Me? Job? Well, you know we're supposed to be found. 01:11:24 Speaker 3: Like going on everything. Okay, He's like, amen, I'm gonna waste I'm on wealth. 01:11:29 Speaker 1: I'm like, and do what what? 01:11:33 Speaker 7: I don't even know? 01:11:41 Speaker 3: He like, he's like, no, man, man, somebody will pay. Man, you're letting them. People said, I ain't let nobody do that. I don't even know what you're talking about. I go to the page and oh, yeah, that wason't no stories. It was something infidelity ship you know, nigga, like, man, don't don't play with my households. 01:11:55 Speaker 1: I get it. It's on us the radio, pay the station pad like like a big fat paid Yeah, like some people, you shouldn't let that go up like that. Like whatever he said, I him, we shouldn't have let him see it. 01:12:13 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but it was interesting to tell I don't run that ship. That's not my page, nigga. I gotta go ahead and look at some of the ship to get posted. So he's like, well, well, you know what, I need to have a mean with the intern. 01:12:26 Speaker 1: And I'm like, look. 01:12:29 Speaker 5: That Gemini. 01:12:32 Speaker 1: I see then when I see when we later we laughed about it, He's like, you I was gonna ta know. He's like, you know, I was on team. I'm like, I want something for that, but you know, this ship causing me going through it with this ship. But that'd be the one thing about man. You know what I'm saying, You're trying to, you know, somebody say something about you. I wanted to be like they come on saying somethniggas about you. I don't care, bro let them do that what I'm saying, but they said that long as you longin Yeah, yeah, now you yes, you you. 01:13:09 Speaker 3: Don't make sure you're saying what you're saying ship going out to the people, see are you saying that? 01:13:14 Speaker 1: But throw then in your case, you said yes, yes, you know what I'm saying. 01:13:19 Speaker 3: So right to that fad, somebody say something about bank, I'll be like, well, I don't know about all that. 01:13:24 Speaker 1: I'm gonna just leave it at that. And then somebody be like, damn, bro, you I. 01:13:29 Speaker 3: Don't like the fact that you will just speak on our personally. You're taking up for niggas you got them, Like what the I don't know about that? What I'm trying to say be damn if you do that. If you don't, So you gotta be real careful with these platforms and these mediums because, like I said, some nigga be way more sensitive than other niggas. 01:13:44 Speaker 1: And sometimes I think if I don't, I got nothing to do with me. But but but niggas don't take well nigga think they gonna think what it is? 01:13:54 Speaker 3: That true because if I hear, if I sit next to the person they tell me some ship and I be like, damn, that's damn like you did. 01:14:04 Speaker 1: So if you want to come to your story, come to your story. That's just what it is. 01:14:11 Speaker 3: That's why I always ask niggas, what could you have done to this person for him to feel? 01:14:15 Speaker 1: Is this a reaction? You know what I'm saying, a lost ship. 01:14:18 Speaker 3: You got to ask people, is whatever you're saying about this man, is that a reaction from whatever you Donna did them? I tell you, I give you think one time and money Bag we were talking about earlier. 01:14:29 Speaker 1: Yeah, uh real interesting. I saw a post one day. 01:14:36 Speaker 3: And god damn uh it had O Marion and little fiads on them, and it had. 01:14:47 Speaker 1: Bad and her right and it went to bad. Money Bag said. I was like, okay, And so we went to the next picture and it had from that guy to the girl. You know, just like na how they got ship, you know, to show Pizzar the Lord Hardy with this guy with Damn siting right there with your bands now he with her love and hip hop right. But I wouldn't even I wouldn't even be in disrespectful that kind of way. I just reposted it. 01:15:20 Speaker 3: I was just like, damn that I was just And what I said was, in this world we live in, you have to you have to really watch out. You have to hold on to whatever you have because somebody else in the world won't what you don't what you got. And that's just the truth of the matter. It wasn't saying watch out for a snake. It just means watch out. 01:15:39 Speaker 1: If you got something you love and you cherish, you gotta really watch out because the minute you sit it down, somebody'll pick it up. So you're saying you post it. You know, you said you posted a picture of money bag. Yo. So girl, listen, g herbo earl girl, right, that's right, and he it was. It was a post, but you and your caption was if you love something, hold on to it. I said, somebody else want what you got. But that's how the world goes. 01:16:15 Speaker 3: Okay, cool, nigga, I could be I can. I guess he took it like I was saying, like, I don't know how he wanted his girl. Yeah, is he wrong for feeling like that though now he's not because looking at it, he gonna look at it like you're pushing it there. 01:16:31 Speaker 1: But I wouldn't. 01:16:32 Speaker 3: I would just that's why my statement with that's what that's why you had the opportunity to put. 01:16:36 Speaker 1: Your caption on them. Niggas. I'm keep it in my caption. 01:16:38 Speaker 3: My caption may not have been prolific enough or broken down enough to say, hey, look, I'm not saying a nigga snake, a nigga want your bitch. 01:16:47 Speaker 1: But do do a nigga spposed to feel like why am I an example of anything? Say why? But it's life. That's just what it was. You're right, but that's just what it was. I didn't put them in that picture to game, so you feel like i' I shouldn't post it. 01:17:01 Speaker 3: You feel like I said, damn, okay what at the moment when I did, I'm like, damn, I didn't take it this. 01:17:07 Speaker 1: Oh watch a nigga. I was just like, well, if you love something, I don't real what it is, you cherish it or a person because at the end of the day, somebody won't what you got. You think that you think I don't listen, listen, you can't make that because I was just like, if I lose beautiful, yes, okay, she means the world? 01:17:29 Speaker 3: You right, Yes, you thinking that's a nigga out here right now that don't feel like he deserves your wife. 01:17:33 Speaker 1: But I don't want to be the nigga with the wife like, but no, oh my god, this is mine. Okay, before you don't count tell what I'm trying to say. 01:17:52 Speaker 3: It's mine, somebody, it's what I'm saying no matter what, somebody won't what you got, bro, But yoah, you ain't gonna make that sound like I wouldn't feel no kind of way if I was what's like, nigga, look at you, nigga, look at you as a nigga. 01:18:07 Speaker 1: A blacker, this job job like that, and was like, damn man, man like you what I'm saying, I said, Bro, I do. I ain't mean them like that. 01:18:21 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, even trying to break it down to tell niggas understand it. That's what my niggas ain't going. 01:18:25 Speaker 1: But it's okay, Like I didn't listen what I didn't do. I didn't put these people together, but it's meaning to be made so so we all got to be a gust a mistake. Do you feel like that's a mistake? Not? I don't feel like telling what I feel like, tell what I feel like. I feel like you were one of them posts that I could have said yep and swipe on back. 01:18:45 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then what I felt when I felt my honest when I saw I said, damn, it's so much truth in this ship. I feel it because I don't been a nigga on both side. But the thinking about it right now, wait, that's my accountability. 01:18:58 Speaker 1: To me. I've been the nigga the first picture and the second. 01:19:02 Speaker 3: Picture, so it was really me more relating to the ship, not saying, oh, these are the type of niggs you don't want to be out more like that, I don't both of these niggas. But maybe because I didn't say that. If I said, hey, y'all talking about been both of these niggas judge not, then nigga will be like that was real ship. But because I didn't say that, at the moment, I just was like, damn. But if you love son cheer ship, you should know you're not coming from a place. 01:19:25 Speaker 1: So that's why you feel like that. But still some time a nigga take it that way because even me and Tip most time you know you know what I'm saying. I was like, I know so so so you know I wouldn't take the time to say that. You know. That's my public apology on all nems of that because you know people involved. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because the didn't then you know it was what I'm thinking. 01:19:48 Speaker 3: I was like, well shit, I don't want no smoke man, some ship that I didn't create. I just I actually felt the ship from both a nigga point of view. But bron, if you like it posted anything, you feel. 01:20:02 Speaker 1: How this post feel? Yeah, that's how legal. 01:20:07 Speaker 3: That's how. 01:20:08 Speaker 1: Say about your well wife. If you like it posted, share it by it so stride opinion you with that you have an opinion. That's why your caption is. 01:20:18 Speaker 2: You think about if you would have posted that caption without the mean then it would have been received a whole different way. 01:20:27 Speaker 1: Made about because the me. I'm just saying saying, that's just how it is. That's my favorite part. Ain't going broke like job feel I just like the song. You don't feel like I thought you my boy? Right wrong though I posted you with that dress on clown you you my man? But you but you got but ship? I did some ship that you couldn't know. You will feel like I supposed to feel like, do you my man? I feel like clown me if I laughed about myself. 01:21:01 Speaker 3: No, you're right, niggas did it even drove Joe did the remix. He did a version to it, and when I heard it, I was like. 01:21:10 Speaker 1: The draft for I got so when Joe did it, I was like, I was like, well, but you give what I'm saying. I know I need it, but but I guess I'm different then mentioned the. 01:21:34 Speaker 3: First time I see this post, it's on your paid nigga, ain't you spread. 01:21:40 Speaker 1: See this ship? Yeah? 01:21:46 Speaker 3: Taking public accountability and here's the first step to understand it. 01:21:50 Speaker 1: The more of us that could do that for what guess what? But I had to give you. I g you because sometimes oh yeah, yeah, you know and that you know what I'm saying. 01:22:05 Speaker 3: So sometimes sometimes you have to see it back and be like you have to think about it because sometimes when you really, when you're moving righteous in your mind, you feel like you brother. 01:22:13 Speaker 1: I always say, Bro, you have to I'm gonna say this ship. We need to put this on T shirt. Bro, if you can't see yourself as a negative, you can't be a positive house. You gotta see what you first. The paper works real ship. You gotta see what you're wrong at first to be right. So you so, like I asked him, so you're the perfect nigga. Job he coming up? He got on your house. I was really shipped. 01:22:43 Speaker 3: Guess what, Bro that she do that should clear your heart? You know what I'm saying when you accept what it is that should be Like ship? I said, what if I own up to nobody holding a lot? 01:22:51 Speaker 1: Bro? That should give you anxide of all types? How you you're ready for? You? Really? You tell you how we stand on doing what? All right? 01:23:01 Speaker 3: Hit my nigga Fresh who fresh from the south Side? Okay, Fred, like she might? You need to give a call More. I'm like, yo, like call over here the he gonna have some bangals for you. I'm like, bit, I go to call More? 01:23:13 Speaker 1: Call More? Like why, you don't need nothing from me? 01:23:17 Speaker 3: You just need to get to a goddamn somebody's gonna put the bad man or like, call mo, want some beats from you. 01:23:22 Speaker 1: He's like, hey, I feel wow, he alight, I'm listening to your shit too. Ready to go now? Yeah? Then who put me with block? Right me? And called More. We get in the studio because this is the nigga who put me, you know he he he pade the plumb so he got to make my first album right right? Yeah for sure. 01:23:39 Speaker 3: So we go to record just a bad. We ended up trying to record. Then they be like, no, no, we trnna go smoke. We're gonna smoke. 01:23:46 Speaker 1: Who call him up? Nigga smoked me out for like four as straight, wouldn't let me record. 01:23:52 Speaker 3: I was like, bro, I got the record. So we got like a few little songs out. One of them I really fucked with time to do the album. She'd come back block like yeah, yeah, h your car more he't make damn. So like, hold on, hold on what I'm like, hold on. 01:24:08 Speaker 1: You can't do you back like that? You're like, she, who's gonna tell me? I'm like, bro, that man brought me to you. You can Johnny. So you're saying, basically. 01:24:19 Speaker 3: He stopped karm from me and on maw and that's how you're in Carmo, So stop that man told. 01:24:25 Speaker 1: Me man don't like the record. I'm like, why you ain't gonna cook something else with carl Most Listen did you push the issue? Listen? Listen? Did at the Adam turned? 01:24:38 Speaker 11: Do? 01:24:39 Speaker 1: I know? Carmon and I'm counting the ricords. I know, I know what's going down. 01:24:42 Speaker 3: I know knock it out, I know, I know you see you know he's certain records, I know gonna make you so. 01:24:49 Speaker 1: But once you getting the record to try because of Karl mother was a record, or he could have came on man that it was. It was jamming to me, that's Carmo. That ship was right. 01:24:56 Speaker 3: So when he came back that I couldn't do it. I'm looking at block lif So we need to go and cook someone he like to talk. I'm like, so, I'm like, Bro, you're gonna have to tell you. Man, man my fuck around the killer. I'm dead ass for real. I would dick for really about that ship. So when it happened and he would go crazy and started making three, it's shit, I'm like, bro, all the team. 01:25:21 Speaker 1: So then so check this out. So we get back good A year later, I'm like, bro, why don't you get back again? The fuck around? Man? I got it bad for you. They make it make seen. I told bro, he gonna have to pay you just for your time, just as a man. I just feel like you just yeah. 01:25:39 Speaker 3: Now, I'm like, bro, we're gonna do this. This man said, all right, you're you're all right, come coming to the studio, which were getting the studio. 01:25:46 Speaker 1: Me and DJ Drumm in the studio he got the record, Me and Jada Kids are so Carl Moewalker up, I'm in that one for going off on the record. Jada Kids, God damn on the record that nigga Like, god damn. DJ draw Be like yeah, I'm like, by you're ready to get in here and cook up. 01:26:03 Speaker 3: He was like, yop nig cooking ship up, play the same song. So yeah, they redo their motherfucker we gonna do this beat. 01:26:12 Speaker 1: He's like, nah, I just want you to rewrap it. What song the song that put made the am the song that they didn't fuck with the first time. Yeah. Oh, so he's saying like you's saying basically he got in it feeling like, bro, you can put this song. Yeah. Next Yeah. 01:26:25 Speaker 3: So I'm like cool, like they're not to waste no time. Then gone, God damn dude, we needn't do He's like, nah, deal, what the fuck we gonna do? So only rewrap it, nigga. 01:26:37 Speaker 1: Yeah, So he's standing up. I told you so, I'm standing at the board. I'm like, I know you got a triple call loved and Nigga. 01:26:52 Speaker 3: I'm like, no, bro, You're like, nah, nigga, if I just carried heard you and this motherfucker wrapping on this New York ass beat with some motherfucking chasing kids. Say, some DJ drawing niggas, you're gonna rap on the motherfucking beat, Nigga, this ship going on the app. But Nigga, I said that, I'm looking at that nigga. Lot, Bro, theuck you're talking to me by that nigga. I'st man in the studio on me, Bro, Nigga, I got that real start going, creato coming. 01:27:16 Speaker 1: We're wrong, the nigga going great, Nigga, I'll right old nigga. Nigga, get some outside nigga beat you off. Nigga got up. So look my final question, so if being all that ship that you went through, see what I'm saying that one on me, it kind of will not when it's started with you, but then started with you don't records. We cult four records, but you don't. Bro, don't care who owned the motherfucker who ain't on they motherfucker. If this ship been turned in like this, I'm wanna fuck who say what man put this put my song on that you gotta wait for that mother think about it. 01:27:55 Speaker 3: If you did it, Bro, I did that what I'm telling you just a man, you talking to a nigga, like, but what we're gonna do? We just gonna got damn because they ain't he me and Puff like, I'm not fucking with it? 01:28:05 Speaker 1: What what am I do? You heard Puff saying ain't funny? Yeah? Man, So I'm gonna stop my motion no cause I can't put it out. You're really for I thought you saying block jail one sucking with no he like Puff don't like it. I don't like Yeah, yeah, nigga. 01:28:22 Speaker 3: I had to talk to Puff too, but he wasn't gonna put knock it out on the album. Then I'm like, nah, nigga, just I do this ship. I have to send that nigga videos and me doing that ship a cappella. He's like, no play, but you like you like you like a Southern mace, you like the ladies. 01:28:34 Speaker 1: Man, you can't be. 01:28:35 Speaker 3: Talking about like this cuncert. So when I send in the video and I do the ship a cappella and all the girls screamed, and it's like, all right, pay what you want on the other ship ain't. 01:28:45 Speaker 1: Going I'm gonna do as in trouble already know it ain't coming out. 01:28:53 Speaker 3: Yeah, so so he so for the longer he thought I was on some fun ship, Like, fuck you, bro, like nigga telling this I did, niggas I hear that. You think he came back to the studio the second time. Then he came to the studios scond time, Like. 01:29:09 Speaker 1: What you would have did? Man? If I. 01:29:14 Speaker 3: Bro like that, you need to say, Bro, as long as I know, I keep it really on my head, I don't give an turn out. 01:29:19 Speaker 1: Man. You what you're saying is is fast. You can't do that. 01:29:22 Speaker 10: But what you can't do, you know what I'm saying, Nigga, get that train and get the funk out of and then what can I do? 01:29:28 Speaker 1: But I really wanted folk, I really wanted it to work out. 01:29:30 Speaker 3: Bro, just he just clicked out on talk to him since the Yeah, we've been good, and we've been good since then. 01:29:39 Speaker 2: So so with them with their life experience, I'm saying, like, what would you tell a young nigga in that position, got a record going crazy, might might need the money. 01:29:48 Speaker 3: Hey man, I'm gonna tell you, man, don't even act like you got a relationship with a nigga. 01:29:52 Speaker 1: Keep this ship all straight. Being in the business, I'm talking about it because when the niggas started feeling like they like you funk with him and they fuck with you can come with. 01:30:00 Speaker 3: A certain level of entitlement. Nigga, see you somewhere and like, bro, let me walk in with you, Like, Bro. 01:30:06 Speaker 1: I don't know what you got on with you? Bro, God damn, you gotta fire nigga with you. Nigga, Like Bro, you Jael what ye got? Damn at the studio the other day when I when I came in and fucked with you in the room. 01:30:15 Speaker 3: Yeah, you came in and spoke to me. We smoke a blind But I don't really know you, Bru. You know what I'm saying. 01:30:19 Speaker 1: I can't, but you you're telling me that they like it's it's up when I see you like damn. 01:30:26 Speaker 3: So I would definitely tell your artists man, you know what I'm saying. God, to protect yourself. Man, you know, get you some people get you, some walls, some barriers get you people for people to talk to, because the men and nigga get close to you. Man, and you you had like you ain't for or fucking with a campaign, but you got issue a self. 01:30:41 Speaker 1: Nigga. 01:30:42 Speaker 3: Niggas be feeling like when the nigga feel like you deflecting or you you trying him when nigga feel like you ain't really trying to hear what he's saying. Because sometime you might not even be with what a nigga. You don't know what nigga, nigga feel like you like and when nigga start feel like that, that when the fuck shit comes. So I'll tell a nigga, get you some people in front of you that could speak for you. And you know, I definitely tell niggas when they come to home by management, you know, if home was gonna be the management, but tell home by the Google read learn the business because because yeah, that's why a lot of times when artists they come up with the nigga they up with, then they had end up having to go to that other level with somebody because shi it really though you outgrow the Home by management, can't stop learning. But see the good thing, n the niggas ain't never stopped. See that's why I said, I wish, you know, would have never got jammed up because he was home. 01:31:36 Speaker 1: That was my brother. 01:31:37 Speaker 3: But he still was an educated, college going nigga and he understood the streets too. 01:31:43 Speaker 1: So It wasn't like he. 01:31:44 Speaker 3: Didn't understand how she gover Once he said down, what could he do for me right here out here? Now you see what I'm saying. But that's why a lot of artists end up going to a bigger management situation because that only plan tout. It only gets you so high in most cases. So I would definitely just tell you know what I'm saying, artists will be small man, don't go by the bigger ship. Soon as you get some money, hold on to that ship. MANU all the capp and this ship. Can I tell you one thing? Well, you have all the ship in the world, your money low, and you get looked around. You can't get nothing out of some of that ship, not what you don't put in. 01:32:14 Speaker 1: Yo. Yo. 01:32:16 Speaker 3: We got in the middle of trying to sell it while you word in the street. But you broke the body doing bad. That boy got damn selling. You got damn hurdy well selling that That motherfuck for tuanay he's selling. Oh yeah, bron down bad. Ain't no where you let that go. 01:32:30 Speaker 1: That's glassy. You know what I'm saying. This ship gotta go, he gotta go. But you know exactly get you ship go to go. I bought it for that's just what it is. She gotta go, man, But a lot of. 01:32:46 Speaker 3: Cats don't see it that way. Man, That's what I'm telling you. Like we will sit back and be like Yo, the pride, the pride, that's the problem. A lot of us ain't got shipped but pride and ego and the name we think we got in the street. But that ship ain't ship because getting nigga face you good soon as walk away, nigga, ont nigga, don't fok which nigga hates your nigga read the trip across. 01:33:03 Speaker 1: That's just the truth. For the streets. 01:33:05 Speaker 3: You just gotta hold on what you got, man, try to get some more bottom line, hold on with, hold on to what you got and try to get you some moment. Yeah, you can't go out there and keep up with these niggas who got the I'm going out here in the sure you trying to do what you do, that's what that ain't. 01:33:19 Speaker 1: You, buddy. You can't buy that ship the every day folks. But you're gonna run out of that quick. 01:33:30 Speaker 3: You're gonna run out of that little half of him you got trying to hang with a Nigga with a hunter. 01:33:34 Speaker 1: But until that ship stopped. Then they telling their story how they got them. Couldn't figure out m real ship, big job. What's next? 01:33:45 Speaker 3: Yelp man, the new series on BT I got a story to tell. It's like a black Mirror series. 01:33:53 Speaker 1: You know who all on. 01:33:55 Speaker 3: There's a couple of people on the I know I'm one of the people. One of the episodes. Uh, gas station pill. You know what I'm saying. 01:34:01 Speaker 1: So my yeah, my ship show. Like I'm like this nerd ass, get this. This guy a gamer? You know you're like you're a character. Yeah, I'm a gamer. And you know what I'm saying. 01:34:12 Speaker 3: I don't get no no action, real lame. Then give me a gas station pill with I mean with delicious. 01:34:19 Speaker 1: Then give me a gas station delicious delicious, gas station peel. I forgot. It's a flip, it's a man, it's a move, It's atology series. 01:34:37 Speaker 3: It's on BT plus, it's BT plus and matter of fact, today the new movie drop on BT plus under his influence story in the Man Shomper. Yeah, it's it's dope. So I'm working on that side. Yeah, And of course, more and more, more and more stations are being added to my syndication one morning show, Young jockeying. 01:34:58 Speaker 1: The streets more Big Fast pulling up on you appreciate it, you know what I'm saying. So the kid working man appreciate that. Shout out to it, say fuck. 01:35:12 Speaker 3: Nah, you know what I just I really would like to tell anybody after after this episode, you put me in. 01:35:19 Speaker 1: A mental space to just think, like you know what, it's a lot of times where you don't. 01:35:23 Speaker 3: See certain ship because your intentions will be pure facts and people people don't understand that because it all come off like the same bullshit. So that anybody, if I have ever offended you or rubbed you the wrong way, you know you gotta charge it to to to the world. Don't charge it to me, man, because you got that all my energy and what you got from well, I'm just saying because sometimes it be like that. 01:35:45 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. What you got from Big Fact. Yeah, and we did some good. So if you take definitely did because that's real ship. That's I feel the same way. 01:35:53 Speaker 3: If nigga, if you feel like we feel like it would be cool, but still stay because I don't fuck up my God damn trust you know what I'm saying. 01:36:03 Speaker 1: You know what I did. 01:36:06 Speaker 3: I trusted my trust. I always been like for me, That's why I couldn't never really hang with no other artists like that. I hate to say it, bro, Like. 01:36:14 Speaker 1: Which had you think the whole niggas on you? Like when your first coming in what oh God just took off so fast? Bro, it was sh it was a blur. It was like it was like the boom so. 01:36:28 Speaker 5: Badly what you're saying that you didn't even really see these niggas. 01:36:31 Speaker 1: I mean I always was. 01:36:32 Speaker 3: I always try to show love and be respectful and just honorable to who I am with niggas. 01:36:37 Speaker 1: Wouldn't never know what's handing the wall you fuck with them, mother fucking with you. Man. It's man, It's gonna be some time where I ain't know that nigga and fuck with. 01:36:43 Speaker 3: That nigga and I showed up a nigga like why yeah, that ship that happened you know what I'm saying. 01:36:49 Speaker 1: I mean that shit happened with yeah nah yeah, you know. 01:36:56 Speaker 3: So at the end of the day, man, I do I do feel like that because sometimes niggas be misunder good bro, su And then because because I ain't no dick rider. 01:37:03 Speaker 1: Yea, I might not come to your shoulder. Then I might not come to your event because you asked me to. 01:37:07 Speaker 3: That don't mean I don't fuck with you, bro, That just mean I got more important ship that I got to do to make sure that I keep my ship afloat. And sometimes niggas, you know, nigga take that the wrong way. That's why I just stopped really just being around niggas, like. 01:37:19 Speaker 1: No motherfucker definitely take you doing what's best for you the wrong all the time what it is. And I'm always in search of doing better for myself. So a lot of niggs be feeling. 01:37:27 Speaker 3: Like, Bro, you got damn you don't really rock with me like you post to him like, well, she how imposed to show me? 01:37:34 Speaker 1: Like what did you ask? Nig need to ask what you want me to do. I'll be saying it what you want to do? 01:37:42 Speaker 3: You know, It's all good though it look like I said man to anybody, to anybody, it love when you. 01:37:47 Speaker 1: See me, I don't want no smoke. 01:37:49 Speaker 3: I swear to God, I'm so happy with life that I just when I see the nigga coming my way, I just obviously like thankful. 01:37:55 Speaker 1: To God that I don't have to deal with it, not go with the opposite, not real, just straight up ship. So solute, solutely young. 01:38:06 Speaker 11: So oh, I thought you got damn for the making jokes knowing we talked ship, you know, we talked. 01:38:24 Speaker 1: No head to appreciate it. 01:38:28 Speaker 2: Solute young job pulling up on big facts. Make sure you check us out Triple W dot Big Fat pot dot com, the streets, it's big facts, no capt
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