The Best of The Dan Patrick Show

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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: He's Ross Tucker, CBS Sports, Westwood One, and he did Jet Saints yesterday. He'll be on the call for the Niners Colts tonight on west Wood One. Round of applause for a great year for Ross.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you guys for having me so much. I really appreciate it. I was wondering if you had an award for best guests, and I was curious where I might fit in.

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Speaker 2: Should we start one where we put maybe our top five or six people who join us all the time, And maybe we'll do that. But you're gonna be up against Reggie Miller. I mean, there's gonna be a few people in there, Steve Young, I mean there's I don't know. Do you want that?

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Speaker 3: Well, you know how I feel about it, Dan. If I'm going to come in first, I think it's a great idea. If I'm not going to come in first, I just don't think it's joined necessary. Let me be in my own big head, Okay, let me be first in my own big head. I'll just assume, based on the feedback I get from your great listeners, that I'm that I'm number one. They don't need to have an official vote and ruin my ruin my expectations.

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Speaker 2: Okay, if I said who do you believe in the most, and I put those teams up there, So the Texans, Jags, Broncos, Patriots, Who's first?

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Speaker 3: Right now? I would say the Jacksonville Jaguars. And I know you guys said last, and I know you're not believing him. They are really good. I mean I watched them a lot, because last week I did Jets Jags. Okay, think about this for a second. In a five game stretch, Trevor Lawrence didn't have to play in the end of the fourth quarter in four of those five. These are NFL games. This is NFL teams. This is not a power for versus a group of five or whatever anybody wants to talk about. These are NFL teams where four games out of five the Jags were able to put Nick Mullins in the game. Then you go out to Denver and you dominate the Broncos, like the Jaguars did, their offensive lines playing very well. This is the best we've ever seen Trevor Lawrence play. Their weapons are a lot better than people realize. Parker Washington can play. Brenton Strams, the tight end can play. They're like Jacoby Myers is kind of like that guy that's always been just okay, but people don't like. The Jaguars are sort of that team Dan that has a bunch of underrated, underappreciated, under the radar guys that are a lot better than people realize because they don't play a lot of marquee games. Even yesterday, okay, they're playing the team with the number one seed. They're playing the you know, the big bad Denver Broncos. That was a four h five game that wasn't the featured Tom Brady, you know Kevin Burkhart game that went to the Steelers' Lions. That have the Jaguars played. I think the Jaguars played the Chiefs like in Week four on Monday Night. That might have been their only primetime game the whole year. Defensively, they got a bunch of guys and as you can tell, and I noticed this last week when I was there, they have an immense chip on their shoulder. Liam Cohen, he's from Rhode Island. Okay, he's got that New Englander in him. He takes a fence to every he doesn't discriminate. He just takes a fence to everything. He even drops the line about yeah, I mean for a small market team like us, it wasn't even a knock by Sean Payton. You know. Sean Payton was just being honest and realistic. So they'll take any little edge they can. And I know people sit here and think, does that really make a difference. Yeah, it does. It just stokes your fire a little bit more every day. It's not only about the game, it's about every day during the week, giving you the edge to prep just a little bit harder.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not rooting against the Jags. I want their fan base to know it doesn't I'm just saying I got to wait to see it happen. Same thing with the Ravens, you know, Lamar Jackson. Let me see what you do in the postseason. I mean the Steelers, I don't know how good they are. I know when you get to the postseason, you get in and you lose. So I would like to see a little more from you. I want to see Drake May and the Patriots in the playoffs in a big moment there. I mean, I think that's just natural reasoning with a lot of these teams show me. We said this before. I want to see what happens with Justin Herbert in a big moment. Yeah, you can throw for four thousand yards. All of those things are great. We're a bottom line sports society.

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Speaker 3: Well, I got news for you. I got news for you. Though Dan Mahomes is not making the playoffs. We know that Burrow's not making the playoffs. We know that it looks highly unlikely Lamar Jackson is going to make the playoffs. So think about that before if we did any quarterback rankings, any quarterback discussions, there was a clear top four, there was a clear elite group, and we talk about how it's by far the most important position in the sport, and all that three of the four guys that are clearly coming into the year the best of the best quarterbacks, three of the four are not going to the playoffs. I don't think that the Ravens are going, which, by the way, means Josh Allen, the time is yours, bro, I mean it is your time.

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Speaker 2: Can there be more pressure on Josh Allen to finally get to a Super Bowl?

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Speaker 3: Yes, there's even more because those other guys aren't in it. There's even more. But the point I was gonna make is a lot of those teams you just mentioned, right, Jacksonville or Herbert or you know this Steelers, somebody has to win these games, Dan, I mean a lot of these teams are gonna be playing against each other. I mean, these are the teams in the playoffs. So you just named three of the seventeen that are going to be in the playoffs in the AFC. I mean, I guess all three of them could lose it the first round. But somebody has to win these games. We have to start to believe in somebody, because Malmes, he's not coming.

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Speaker 2: I didn't understand. Now, I understand the call in the Lions Steelers game that you know it was past interference offensive pass interference. If you want to call that, you call that, But the fact that the play look like it was still alive if there's no pass interference, Now, I'm gonna play the call here and then I'm gonna come to you because I have a couple of problems here, Marvin. Play that the last play there in the lines game, fourth.

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Speaker 4: And goal for the Lions from the nine ball game on the line right here. They need the end zone for the win. Jared leans in. There's the snap on fourth down, Jared back, Jared stepping up, Jared look, he throwing end zone. It is caught by Amen ras Shy at the end zone. He flips it back to Goff who talked it to the end.

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Speaker 5: Zone for the touchdown. There's a flag that came in. Two flags.

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Speaker 3: Did they rule them down?

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Speaker 4: Are they going to say pass interference against dom and raw? There's no time left on the clock. Here comes Carl Scheffers, the officials that finally broke and we're gonna get call right here? Is this game over or not?

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Speaker 3: Pittsburg's staying on the field, but they're really on the field.

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Speaker 5: There's a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: However, US interference number fourteen on the offense.

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Speaker 2: My rule, that penalty is not enforced and there is no replay. The game is over.

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Speaker 5: Wow, there is no touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Wow, okay, talk about a bait and switch. That is embarrassing for the official. It's a touchdown, but there's pass interference. There is no touchdown. Game over, good night and drive home safely. How could you possibly say it's a touchdown in Detroit and then say, but there was past interference? No touchdown.

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Speaker 3: I think Dan, he should have sold it harder and really pulled off a grinch move there. Jeffers should have been like, the ruling on the field is touchdown, Detroit Live. Except unfortunately there's a penalty of games over. You guys lost the ye.

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Speaker 2: But I wonder if the whistle, because they clearly had stopped I'm on Ross Saint Brown his forward progress, right. I don't know if a whistle, let's say there's no pass interference, would they I guess they would have allowed that touchdown because he said that it's a touchdown except for there his past interference.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely they would have allowed it, which would have been incredible. I mean, I'm in raw. First of all, that was about blatant a past interference. I don't know why he was doing. He went right after the guy and just two hands shoved him. Probably didn't need to do it, but he did. But can you imagine if Jared goff on a pitchback the touchdown diving into the end zone for the Lions to be able to go to the playoffs, and that that's how that game had ended. But you have to call it a touchdown, Dan, if you're gonna call the two point conversion in the Seattle Rams game where Sharbonag just walks over and picks up the ball that's in the end zone. I gotta be honest with you, I had much more of a problem with that. That to me should not have been two points for the Seahawks. The whistle blue in that one, and that one the whistle blew. In my opinion, as a player, once the whistle blows, nothing after that should count. Because what would have happened if the whistle blue and Sharbonage just walking over to pick the ball up. Am I allowed to just come in and just crack him?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 3: I would have been penalized. So if Sharbonae's going to score the two point play, but if I came over and just annihilate him, they would throw a penalty on me. Then you can't say the two point conversion counts. I had a real problem with Thursday night, way worse than and then Cheffer's in that game yesterday.

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Speaker 2: He's Ross Tucker CBS Sports Westwood One. He'll be on the call for the Niners and the Colts on Westwood one. What is DK Metcalf doing with the fan his team is winning, He's probably going to be suspended for a game you make contact with the I know fans say a lot of bad things, negative things, but you can't. You can't take matters into your own hands. What do you think the NFL does.

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Speaker 3: I think that they probably will suspend him because this is a lot different than the fan initiating physical contact, or the fan, you know, somehow coming on the field or anything like that. DK metcalf went all the way over into the stands. It wasn't like the guy was right behind him. I mean, that was a good ten yards behind him. Obviously, whatever the guy said. The guy told the Detroit Free that he called DK by his real name.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: It's whatever the D is and the K is, and I guess I didn't know that. But now evidently DK does not like that. By the way, now every defensive back knows that DK does not like if you call him by his real first name. But you can't do that. You cannot walk over. I feel very strongly when fans cross over the line that that's very different to me.

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Speaker 1: This.

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Speaker 3: You're allowed to say whatever you want to say from the stands. You're allowed to say whatever you want to say, and a player cannot go over there and initiate anything, especially putting their hands on them. I think the NFL has to come down on him hard. Right or wrong.

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Speaker 2: Your game tonight, Explain to me how the Niners are doing it this year.

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Speaker 3: They are a really very well coached team.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this might be Kyle Shanahan's best coaching that he's done. And nobody's going to talk about it. When you lose your two best defense players, Ayuki is a no show. Debo's gone. I mean, you had Mac Jones for a while. Now perty in the most competitive division in football.

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Speaker 3: It's incredible. You're right, it might be Kyle Shanahan's best coaching job. You know, they have sixteen sacks. That's by far the worst in the NFL. Everybody else has at least twenty two.

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Speaker 2: I'll give Sala Miles Garrett has more sacks than the Niners.

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Speaker 3: Miles Garrett has six more sacks than the Niners.

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Speaker 5: It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: I'll give Sala a lot of credit because you lose two of the top twenty players in football on defense, and he still has had a couple games where they gave up less than ten points. We'll see what happens. Tonight. My guess is, Dan, they'll drop eight in coverage and pack it up and in and force Philip Rivers to try to have to fit the ball on tight windows or throw it deep. But they're just very very well coached both sides of the ball. The offense is a machine. Here's you. I think it's crazy. Watch the game a night, Dan, and tell me that McCaffrey hasn't lost just a little.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, definitely he's lost it.

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Speaker 3: And the guy's gonna have two thousand yards from scrimmage. He's third in the NFL with over said, he's gonna have four hundred and eighteen touches. The last time somebody had over four hundred touches was McCaffrey had four, oh weeight in twenty nineteen. I'm in awe. Imagine this, Okay, imagine not being the player you used to be and losing a step or half a step, and yet you go out and get an NFL football over four hundred times and have over two thousand yards. That guy coming off of the two injuries last year, that guy is an absolute warrior. I'm incredible. I'm like, he's one of those guys in my in my Hall of Fame that I'm in awe of that he's able to do is the mental and physical.

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Speaker 2: Toughness just like you.

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Speaker 3: Just hey, listen, I had to fly from New Orleans to through Chicago to Indianapolis to get here to call a game with unbelievable horror the night. I mean, you know, profile is encouraged. I know that. I don't know when the last episode they've done is. But I had to stay and I had to stay in a merry out here and I just went to the M Lounge. Breakfast was delicious. It's it's not easy, man, You're my hero. Thank you, buddy. Merry Christmas to you, save travel. Yeah, Merry Christmas, guys, thank thank you.

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Speaker 2: That's Ross Tucker.

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Speaker 2: Yeing, let's bring in Rick Neuheisel, CBS Sports College football analyst feels like those who didn't want tu Lane or James Madison in the playoffs certainly got what they wanted.

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Speaker 6: Oh I agree, I agree, And I think someday we're going to get to a point where James Madison Tulane are going to get to play each other, and we just need to get that game the kind of stage that it deserves, you know, a New Year's Day stage where they can play for a group of five or a group of six, whatever it ends up becoming national champion. The fact that we're taking players from them, you know, annually, just basically taking their all start team and putting it on the powerful rosters with lavish gifts. It makes it difficult for them to compete when they get to this portion of the year.

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Speaker 2: Best team remaining is who.

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Speaker 6: I still think it's Ohio State. I know Ohio State got comfortable not trying to be too explosive offensively and lean into their defense, and Indiana kind of exposed them there. But I believe you know, with Ryan day now back probably calling play's heartline spending, just like I said, the Colin kleinb dilemma, having to get ready for what's going on at South Florida. I think that Ohio State has the makings of the offense that can win a national championship, and they've certainly proven themselves defensively.

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Speaker 2: The best matchup coming up is who.

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Speaker 6: Goodness gracious, I love the Rose Bowl Indiana. I mean, if you're an Indiana fan, are you just absolutely have red marks all of them for the times you've been pinching yourself. I'm been trophy winner, he's been trophy winner, and now the Big Ten championship. You've been to the College Football Playoff now two years in a row. It's too good to be true. And now you're going to the Rose Bowl to take on Alabama. I mean This is like some psychedelic dream that most of these folks had back in their college days. This is too good to be true.

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Speaker 2: First half social media, Notre Dame fans talking about Alabama no show down, seventeen to nothing, and then they went quiet. The second half there, it.

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Speaker 6: Went pretty quiet, pretty fast. Although Brent Benables has got to be sitting there look at himself in the mirror, go what was I doing? Third and five? Sending out my kicker to kick into the wind from fifty one yards away after he missed a chip shot. It was not the exemplary head coaching one oh one by coach Enables, but still a good year and a whale of a comeback. And that's kind of stuff that's first teams on. I don't know they're good enough without a running game, but it was certainly a roll tide type of evening.

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Speaker 2: All Right, you promised a song the last time you were on, so.

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Speaker 9: I have it.

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Speaker 2: I'll have it. Okay.

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Speaker 6: The topic is, oh, we're in the Christmas time of year, so it will be self explanatory. Hang on for a second as I adjust myself in my beautiful studio here, and just remember my boy sounds a little bit basis. It's just because it's early am.

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Speaker 2: Where I am. And by adjusting yourself, you mean you're adjusting the guitar that you're playing. The guitar is right here.

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Speaker 6: I had to put you on a speaker.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I can do all things, all right.

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Speaker 2: Let me give the full introduction. He's a CBS Sports College football enlist. He gave us Born in the SEC years ago the Ballad of Johnny Manziel years ago, and here he is in the Christmas Spirit Rick Neuheisel.

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Speaker 9: The song is entitled just let him play college Football.

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Speaker 10: Discombob you, lady, but don't let that get you to frustrate. Just sit yourself down and say, let him play, Let him play, Let him play.

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Speaker 9: Coaching carasel this spinning and are the only book Screenny, but don't you show just may let him play, Let him play.

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Speaker 10: Let him play. When we finally get to the game, woll show the young got to be.

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Speaker 9: Better with da shame, notre dame. Soon the season wind go, so don't stress about the coming and going, even though.

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Speaker 10: There's no signs of slowing.

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Speaker 9: If he he get crunk, we pray, let him.

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Speaker 10: Play, let him play, Let him play. The holidays now upon us, and it doesn't take noster dommas to predict what's on its way. Wash him play Washington, play wash him play.

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Speaker 10: Kind of reedy piskin clue old miss Winter and lay yet rich. But the stift comes from hell. Lets you sounds so bounding.

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Speaker 9: The sound you hear a head pounding? Help me went out? Say let play play that.

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Speaker 10: Play Let's play walk play.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you did it again. This is this is where you smash your guitar. Don't you didn't that how you entered where for good?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Merry Christmas to you, Happy New Year, Thank you game, my friend, Thank you.

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Speaker 6: Buddy, always a treat. Happy Holidays.

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Speaker 2: Nate Berson's Busy Guy NFL Christmas Game Day and that'll be on Netflix. Uh so you you'll be in the booth for the Cowboys and the Commanders, and you know these games sound good when the season comes out. Nate, where you go, man? Cowboys? And the commanders here, all right, let me hear you sell it.

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Speaker 5: Well, listen, you're right.

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Speaker 8: Initially, you know, they reached out and they said this is going to be the Cowboys commanders on Christmas Day. I'm thinking, oh wait, we got an NFCS survivalry. This is going to be one of the biggest games of the Year's Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 5: They're fighting for a chance to make a Super Bowl run.

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Speaker 8: Jayden Dawns riding everybody just how good he is at the quarterback position, great defense.

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Speaker 5: This is an offense, it's not it's not a chess, it's not a checkers game. It's chess.

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Speaker 8: All of the good things that we like to say in sports. And then it falls off the rails. The Cowboys have another year of disappointment at not being contenders, and then just injuries decimated this commander's team.

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Speaker 5: But here's the thing. It still as a rivalry game. And you have a couple.

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Speaker 8: Of cool people in the booth with a bunch of people surrounding the game. We're gonna have fun. It's Christmas Day. We're gonna talk exces and Oo's stories about bros. And the reality is football always finds a way of making itself entertaining even if the playoff implications aren't there.

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Speaker 5: Listen, we got a ton of stuff. We could talk about.

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Speaker 8: Christmas movies, Christmas Day routines, we can talk about being in the playoffs versus booking your vacation. I think Matt Ryan and I were on the set yesterday trying to figure out who we're gonna put in our all Christmas team.

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Speaker 5: You know, who's Santa, Who's Rudolph?

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Speaker 8: Down the line, we got a ton of stuff to fill time if the game doesn't give us the entertainment we need. But I have a feeling that Cowboys Commanders is going to be Clint Key of the entertainment.

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Speaker 5: We will need.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So Cowboys Commanders at one Eastern with Iron Ego and Matt Ryan. Then it's the Lions in the Vikings. Pregame begins at eleven am Eastern on Netflix.

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Speaker 8: Those two matches sounded really good a few months ago.

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Speaker 2: I'm still trying to figure out how the official says touchdown and then says, however, okay, so help me understand that in the Lion Steelers game, where it's not a touchdown because there was a penalty, So why would you start with your ruling calling it a touchdown and then saying, but there was past interference, no touchdown. Game over drive home safely.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: See, I listen, man, Let's keep it real. This is what I like to I like to keep it real with you. I was d to about the Vikings playing in NFC North went to Seattle for four years, right, and then I had an opportunity to sign another deal, so I went to Detroit and now I remember when I got there, guys were scoring.

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Speaker 5: They were like, look, the league, the league.

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Speaker 8: Doesn't like us, and Nate playing here is rough, not just because we're trying to exercise demons, but when a game is on the line, it tends to go the other way, you know. And I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, no, no, no, no. I've been in the league for seven years now, and I get it. There's some close calls, but football is football, right, And they're like, no, no, nay, I don't think you understand it. When it comes to the Lions, there are certain games that just don't go our way, even though everybody knows they should. Now, I remember questioning that, doubting that, and then one year we open up in Chicago, it's a close game. You know, those Division games are really like two and it's the Lions versus the Bears.

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Speaker 5: We're in Chicago. Last minute, hell Mary threw up to Calvin Johnson. He catch is it?

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Speaker 8: He has it in one hand, puminent with his big old MITSI slides on the hip. He even has like an elbow down and then he goes to get up on both hands and one still has the ball in it, and he just pushes himself up off the ground even less the ball go Even the Chicago Bears, we're dapping us up, saying, hey, good game, good game.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, y'all won that one.

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Speaker 8: We'll see y'all a little later on, you know, in Detroit, and as the rest are sitting there meeting with each other, we're sitting back and thinking, what the hell are you meeting about?

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Speaker 5: Game over? That's a catch. We're one and on right now.

00:26:32
Speaker 8: Sure enough they come back, they look at the cameras and they say, incomplete past game over.

00:26:40
Speaker 5: I was blown away. I really was.

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Speaker 8: And I can't help but to think about all of these moments throughout Detroit Lion's history where our eyes see one thing, but then the reality is something else. Now I'm on rock. He extended fully on that one by the goal line. I think nine times out of ten they're looking for that full extension. They're gonna call that a touchdown. Before that though, where they call it a pick play. But the DV pushed it out. I believe it was Tesla push tim smart played by the DV, by the way, because if you push a guy into somebody.

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Speaker 5: Else, you lose balance.

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Speaker 8: The key is when you're running a pick play, you're swimming over the guy, you're running through the guy. You're making a move to make it seem like you're running around. I think the DV recognized that, and I was like, I'm gonna shove him.

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Speaker 5: Throw my balance. Now I'm all balance. I'm just trying to stay up.

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Speaker 8: It looks like I'm leaning one way or the other, and it looks like a pick play. But I still think that was a perfectly executed play. Touchdown by the Lions. Game over. But here we are again another example of how we think one thing and the rest call another.

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Speaker 2: Okay, wait mate, you you actually thought that the NFL had something against the Lions.

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Speaker 8: People that played for the players that played for the Lions said that to me, and I thought to myself, nah, and I can't be And then when they took that catch away from Calvin, A lot of Lions fans, in Bears fans and people that just love, you know, big plays by Calvin Johnson, they remember this play. He caught that damn ball. I don't care what anybody says. The whole Like back then, it was like the action of the catch. You gotta catch, you go to the ground and get up and then walk to the locker room, take a shower, and take the bus home and the flight and then bury it in the backyard. I just feel like that catch, right there was a catch and that just it just it left a sour taste in my mouth. Listen, the cookie's gonna crumble one way or the other. I just felt like we weren't getting, you know, our crumbs.

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Speaker 2: And that changed football. You know, they really did that whole complete the processed nonsense. I mean, you're you're an ex wide receiver. I can't imagine, you know, even that play with the Ravens where you know, uh, you got two steps and the football move is to have the ball away from the That is a football move. Yeah, So I don't know what would you teach you have to overcatch. Now it feels so you have to over catch.

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Speaker 5: Listen.

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Speaker 8: I feel bad for past catchers, and in DB's in particular because one past catchers, we have to focus on which we're supposed to do. We get paid to catch the ball, figure out a way to tuck it away before it gets punched out because the peanut punch has become wildly popular. Instead of going for the tackle, guys are just going for the ball. So catch, tuck away, snug away from the dB and then get one two three. It's not just one two, it's one two three. And to be honest, hold on to that thing until the whistle blows.

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Speaker 5: Don't let it go.

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Speaker 8: Don't allow the DV to play with it after the whistle because they might take it away. And then on the flip side, I feel bad for some of these dbs, even mind backers. A guy catches the ball and then he's he's basically figuring out what his aim point is gonna be. I'm gonna take his shoulder and I'm gonna shove it right into your sturnum. I'm gonna hit you in the shoulder. I'm gonna hit you in the upper region. Shoot, I might try to take out one of your ribs, but I'm using my shoulder.

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Speaker 5: Old school football.

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Speaker 8: A lot of guys when they catch the rock, they see that and then they crouch. I'm not gonna call it coward, but they crouch down, which lower there is the.

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Speaker 5: Level of their helmet.

00:30:01
Speaker 8: So now you might have been aiming for this right here, my chest, shoulder, maybe even my rib.

00:30:06
Speaker 5: But if I see you and I.

00:30:08
Speaker 8: Don't want to take that shot, and I crouched down, now I'm putting my helmet in a place where you aren't intending to hit, and all of a sudden it's targeting.

00:30:16
Speaker 5: Man, I feel bad for these dudes trying to tackle right now.

00:30:18
Speaker 8: And then if you're going low and taking out people's cleats or knees, now all of a sudden you're looking You're looked at as a guy who doesn't want to go up top.

00:30:27
Speaker 5: So you're stuck. You're really stuck.

00:30:29
Speaker 8: So I just feel like there's some rules that we still got to tweak a little bit without making the game softer as of some traditional traditionalists would like to say.

00:30:38
Speaker 2: Nate burleson NFL today on CBS, and you can see him on Netflix. That'll be on Christmas Day, NFL Christmas Game Day, He'll be in the booth Cowboys and the Commanders. But you bring up that punch out, it's a violent I can punch you as hard as I want in the arm and say I'm going for the ball.

00:31:00
Speaker 8: Correct, No doubt. You can hit you. You can aim just about anywhere like you can. You can wink wink miss and hit a guy and his and his nuggets. You can hit him in his stomach. You can even you know, hit him in his arm and bruise it up. But it's a play that I think if you're doing it with intentionality not to hurt the ball carrier, I don't mind it at all, you know what I mean.

00:31:24
Speaker 5: I think it's one of the smartest plays in football.

00:31:27
Speaker 8: Listen, you know if you if your team is going to rally to the rock, that means the first guy there can take that that that guesstimation, that that that risk to.

00:31:38
Speaker 5: Go for the ball. And if I miss, you know the troops are coming behind me.

00:31:42
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make you, uh make a pick of the AFC right now today.

00:31:47
Speaker 5: All right, let's do it. Who you got.

00:31:50
Speaker 8: The Buffalo Bills I believe that even when they win ugly, they're still victories. And they we've seen them win big and we see them put up points. They're anchored by a fantastic running game with James Cook, and then when Josh Allen wants to be a running.

00:32:05
Speaker 5: Back, you can. You can make any throw in the book.

00:32:08
Speaker 8: The passing game might not be as prolific as some others in the league, but they run through their tight ends. The passing game goes through their tight ends and their defense. They're true ben vedon't break. I know it's cliche, but they are that. Also, let's just talk about like X factors or non X factors being in their way. This might be the best path that Josh Allen has ever had to face. We're talking possibly know Lamarrow, right, it looks like they're on the outside looking in. No Joe Burrow, no Patrick Mahomes. If not now, then win now. I'm not knocking I'm not knocking Bonnicks. I am also not knocking Drake may and I'm for sure not knocking Trevor Lawrence because he might be playing the best football out of all quarterbacks right now. But if you're not facing that big three of Mahomes, Burrough and Jackson. I think Josh Allen has to really take this team and look at them and say, listen, we are facing some young guys who have not been in this position. They don't know what it's like to want close out of season, let alone fight for an AFC title game. So let's take advantage of the fact that we have been there. We know what this feeling is like to be in the postseason. Oh and more importantly, we know what it's like to go home after the AFC Championship game and then have to watch the rest of the Super Bowl week with you know.

00:33:32
Speaker 5: The everyday civilian that doesn't play football.

00:33:35
Speaker 8: So I just feel like this is I won't call it the path of least resistance because that will be dismissive to the Broncos, Patriots and Jaggs. I just feel like this is the best path that Bill's fans in this Bill's team has ever seen to a Super Bowl run.

00:33:50
Speaker 2: Give me your NFC pick before you got to go.

00:33:54
Speaker 5: This is tough, man. I'm torn.

00:33:56
Speaker 8: It's like I'm torn between you know, two exus, you know, and then they both fine and we had good times, you know. Listen, it's those two exes are for two different reasons. The Seattle Seahawks because I played for him and I'm from Seattle and you have to respect the record.

00:34:13
Speaker 5: And also beating the Rams.

00:34:15
Speaker 8: Speaking of the Rams, Matt Stafford like, that's my former quarterback, So essentially the Rams are my X two. And I just feel like it's funny because we saw that game, right and it was a big time game on Thursday, and while thinking this is going to help us decide who we have faith in in the NFC, not just the NFC West, Seattle wins and people are like, yeah, but I still trust the Rams, and you know, and I get it. There's question marks about how for real Seattle is. I think there's also question marks how Sam Darnold will finish the season and show up in the postseason. I just think these two teams, one of them will represent the NFC. And I know everybody saying, what about the Eagles Nate They're figuring it out?

00:34:58
Speaker 5: Yeah they are, but you know I'm biased, Okay.

00:35:00
Speaker 2: In the final fifteen seconds, the Rams walk into a party and Seattle walks into a party. Which one are you taking home?

00:35:09
Speaker 5: How many drinks have I had? Because it might be both.

00:35:15
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us.

00:35:17
Speaker 5: All right man, Thank you man. You guys do an awesome job.

00:35:19
Speaker 2: Thank you, Bud. That's Nate Burleson.