Michelle & Nayte Discuss Their Exciting Next Chapter!

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Speaker 1: What is a Bachelor Happy Hour? Listeners, We're back this week and it's actually our last one before the holidays. We're gonna be taking a quick little break until twenty twenty two, but have no fear because we have a very exciting episode with a very in love, newly engaged couple, and we just have to cover everything from that amazing finale and after the final rose. That's right, you guys. Michelle's journey is officially come to an end, and her and Nate are fascily in love, and we are so excited to have them here today. I cannot wait. In Tasia, each week we always do a quick little recap, but let's just let's just cross it out, because I just want to bring on the happy couple. I want to see the ring, I want to see the smiles. I have to also say, I mean, everyone from this franchise is of course beautiful and studying, but they might be one of the hottest couples I have ever seen. I'm not gonna the Bachelor Bautchelorette. I definitely stare at them when I watched them on television, like how is it possible? Like actually in their babies. God, I don't. I don't want to start talking about babies already, but like lord Jesus, i'd better be an aunt and they probably name with their children. Taient just saying, but I think it's time to have them on the show because I have so many questions. I want to know if there's a date. I want to know if they're living together soon. I want to know if Nate knows how to express them. So I want to know all of it. So here we go. Bran, Well, I'm so sad I was not able to be there last night. But hi, guys, welcome to have the hour. We're so pumped that you're both here. Finally, you guys, I've been waiting for this moment. Oh gosh, yes too. It's nice nice, Okay, Well, Nate and Michelle, you guys are actually in the same room together, being on camera and this together recording, being able to talk about your relationship freely. Welcome to the show, future, mister and missus Oakora. How are you guys doing right? I mean, it's been a whirlwind for sure, going through this. I feel like you can kind of prepare yourself as much as possible and as it unfolds, like you can continue to try to prepare yourself. But man, we learned how to communicate, didn't we Believe me, it's we've all been there, Becca and I, so don't worry about it. It's nothing new. But you guys have done an amazing job thus far. So m well, welcome to the club. This is exciting if anyone understands just the weird transition that you go from filming to then being in this weird secluded hiding space now to being able to shout names from the rooftop Tasia and I get it. We're so thrilled. What has that What has that part been like for you too? Where you can't even or I guess now you can, but you couldn't even say each other's names in public to make it seem like your boyfriend and girlfriend h slash fiances. Yeah yeah yeah no. Um for me, I mean what I did, because I mean Michelle and I are all obviously always texting, so I actually have her name in my phone backwards, so it's like eleseum joy or right, and so that was kind of funny. But that's like one of the like examples of like you really like it's just it's just you have to wait until you can actually be out in the public too to talk about stuff like this, So like nobody really knows. People don't can't tell who I'm texting unless they read everything backwards. So yeah, that's just like one of the examples, like just really excited that. Now, Um, we don't have to do weird things like putting each other's names in our phone's backward. You know, Wait, Michelle, what was your nickname for Nate? Oh there's there's a kidney face. It's just like you know, like the kids face emoj Yes, okay, got it. Oh that's it, the kiss of the lips. Yeah, what's real? What's what's my real? People know kind of said yoke, but his Okay, there is a kissy face. But before that, it's red because, um, everybody calls him the walking red Flags. So I just think name in my red, you know, I like that runs a good color. It's a sexy color. Yeah, it really flies joke about. Yes, his name is, his name's red, just because I mean, hey, that first time going through like this man was falling in love. He was talking to his family about all of his emotions for the first time ever. You are in the situation where you're talking about your feelings, Like I remember me going through that. That was not easy, let alone for somebody who normally doesn't do that regardless. And so yeah, only times where like I wanted to ask for clarification and we kind of joked about it after like the that finale on that day because I was like, nit, sometimes like wa is this what you meant? Or is this what you meant? He's like, that is not what I meant. I'm not that kind of and I'm like, WoT it. So we kind of just like started to laugh and joke about it, and just the fact of like you know, like I'm learning how to communicate through this. He's learning how to communicate through this. Um. But yeah, it's definitely listen people, it's funny because he's not a red flag. I think if he actually was a red flag, I probably wanted to do that. And maybe people we'll just like make like the height the red flag, you know what I mean, Like I feel like anybody could sort you out through like you're high alone, so that's the red flag we're all like talking about lessen n Nate. If it makes you feel any better. My boyfriend Thomas was considered a huge red flag on the past season of The Bad Scherette too, and I was like, fuck it, Red's my favorite color. I'm just gonna own it. And you know people are gonna say whatever, just tune them out. And it sounds like you have been making a joke about it and can just laugh it off. And that's really all you can do at this point. It's we'll get you and Thomas together and really give people something to talk about. I want to know, kind of plane into the fact that now you can say each other's names in public, you can go outside and go grocery shopping and hold hands, and everyone can now see who Michelle you ended up with. Ultimately, it's one thing for you too to be able to feel those things together. But I'm sure your families, who are so thrilled and excited and have probably been bottling this up so hard inside too since you got back from the show from filming, how have they been able to contain their excitement. It sounds like the families are hitting it off, So give us a little bit more of the family and how they're doing and how they want to welcome you both to their families. I think one of My favorite parts about this entire thing is just even going through the process, Nate and I were constantly talking about what type of family we wanted in the future, what we wanted for our families together like after this, And I think the best part is that everything that we talked about and everything that we kind of put in place, it's that's the direction it's going. And so like our moms, our moms talk all the time, me and his siblings and vice versa, and just like being able to truly feel supported by both of our families, and it's it's just been really nice that we can now really like truly all embrace that together and all be together because obviously we were going back and forth and able to see each other like here and there, But now our families can actually be together too, and that Michelle Michelle my sister, like faced on each other all the time, like it really is has like another big sister now, So it's nice. I love that bringing the families together. So difficult during that time of like being kind of in hiding, you feel like you're kind of living this double life and your parents can't even kind of chime in that with you. But now that everything's out in the open, because I'm sure you're going to make so many memories and be able to spend this new year like really getting to know each other, have family parties and all that kind of stuff. But I'm really dying to know what the kids think. Have the kids weren't the kids able to ever guess that you were in love and you had found somebody or what were they on to you? I have to have a feeling that they did, Like honestly, I don't know. I feel like we I really did not open the floor too much to have them be able to talk about it, because then that's just like that's a black hole going down that. But I will say that, you know, they're excited Nate's tall. They asked about it. It's grade like the boys are like whoa and the girls are like, oh, I did for the day, where like he gets to come in and I don't know, teach him something. You know, majority of my life, like once I gave up on like basketball NBA dreams, which you guys all show how that happens. Please enlighten us when wash or when did you give up your basketball NBA dreams? Oh Man, probably a really young age like what like three, like two three completely, you know, the airballing every shot I took. No, like that is that is gonna be something fun? Like if that is something that um can be done for me to come and meet the kids. Um And and you know, teach maybe like class or something that'd be really cool, because I did want to be a teacher. My mom's a teacher, my stepmom's a teacher, my auntie's a teacher, A lot of teachers of my family, and um, I went to business route, but I did started my college career. I guess I'm going as a going the route to be a teacher. Then I just wished, like halfway through, oh wow, that's incredible. I give you know, I'm just picturing Nate walking into this. I just remember elementary schools. You know, everything is so small, like watching Nate walking, Like is your head even gonna fit through the doorways? Like picturing you at these little tiny desks. Not that fifth graders are tiny by any means, but compared to you, they would be. That actually leads me to my next question, because Michelle, before you ever left for filming, you and I actually went out grabbed lunch or dinner talked about your future goals, and I'd think at that point you had mentioned you you know, you still wanted to stay with your career, you potentially wanted to become a principal. And last night you shared some big news with the world that Nate has plans to move to Minnesota and that you two are looking to buy a house, which is so exciting to begin with. So, Nate, I'm also from Minnesota, so you picked a good state. Just bundle up in the wintertime. You will enjoy the holidays. Let me tell you what, but what is how is that going? What is that like now? You know, getting ready to move and to go house hunting and next steps in Minnesota? Um, well we started that a while ago. But it's it's it's something to really look forward to, right, Like I'm excited to be to be moving. Um, you know, Austin has been the fun for the last two years. But I'm always for the adventure and honestly, like being only a seven hour drive from my home city, all my childhood friends, my whole family. Um, that's something that albums are looking forward to, right because yeah, like we're just so close, Like a seven hour drive is nothing, right, so it's across the border. And now we're in my neighborhood. My family can come down, hang out with Michelle's family at any time they want. It's close. So it's we're looking forward to this. And so you're used to the cold, Yeah, because it's a breeze. Minnesota's a breeze compared to that. Yeah, Winnipeg is cold. And I actually already did look because you know, I'm not a fan of being cold. That's why I guess on the average, Whinnipeg is like a solid ten degrees colder than Minnesota at all times. So you know what, See, you got this cold sun, So it's not like that. You know. The last time I was in winning Peg was a couple of years ago, and I kid you not, it was negative fifty seven degrees. And I am not exaggerating negative fifty seven. That's that's not real. That was real, Tasia. Let me tell you what the frozen bookers in my nose. It was real. It was real. What lashes? That's like when your your eyelashes these little icicles. Yeah, how do people function? Like? Absolutely not? I would not do that. Well. I took the city bus everywhere I went, like to class, to school, to to university everything, like to practice everything. So like, yeah, I know that that those are like high You're definitely leveling up. Oh no, so I'm just happy. That's not that cool. But hey, you know I do, I do. I'd even do Winnipeg weather from Michelle, you know. So I have to comment on the way you too smile. You just are lighting up our screen right now. I wish all of the viewers, all of the listeners could see this, because I mean, obviously we saw it on the season two. I think Michelle, you just you were giddy around Nate and you just lit up in such a different way when you tour together. But it's really special to see you two now just on your own in a home, just chilling. It so special. I'm yeah, I'm happy that everyone else SUPs to see that. I think that that was a hard part of not being able to talk about it, because I a producer brought it up to me that like anytime somebody said Nate like, I was just like, who like my soul just like light up? Tasha, you were there like yeah, you will go away when you're like at home, And so I had to consciously like not smile at times because we'd be out in public and like a fan would come up and somebody would ask on Nate and I'd be like, like, you know, but that was hard. It's the best cup of secret. Yeah, seriously, though, it's a hard secret to keep, you know, Like my brother just found out, you know, five with the with the rest of the world. Um, so you know, it's it is. It is a hard secret to keep, that's for sure. You know, because you're excited. You want to tell everybody. You want to tell your brother, you want to tell everybody you know, but you gotta you gotta kind of picking shoes exactly who you can tell. Like, you know, sister most is my best friend, you know what I mean. So that's why she definitely, she definitely and she she's in love with Michelle. Like it's anyways, I'm a tangent right now. It is it is hard. Wait, okay, I need to go back to my initial question because we went off on such a tangent about Canada and it being cold. Have you guys started to look at homes in Minnesota? Have you fund anything that's cut your eye a lot? Yeah, has caught her eye. What was so like we started looking and even like with the housing market right now, it goes so fast and times where like it pops up and I'm like, we're like, is it early to like go for that one. I mean, we really would love to be in it, but like we're not out in public yet. So now now it's just really really to the racist now that we're like she came on, really in this really like really well uh well built out spreadsheet on Google sheets or whatever for we we can like all of our favorite listings. Yeah, we've we've been going, we've been going crazy on this. Now that we're public, I think it's gonna be a lot easier for us to what is spreadsheet or is it Nate? It has to be Michelle. Okay, I started a spreadsheet and he reorganized it and it's like top quality, like y'all, y'all saw it. Ryan, I was gonna teaching my student spreadsheets, do you think? Yeah? His like Excel technology skills are honestly above and beyond. Okay, so I'm organized and efficient, Yeah, I'm yes, he teaches me daily like new tech tools. Oh look see that that's not a red flag. That's you see you might be red still but that's not a red flag. He means, I'm going to send you some list to make me some exults for you. Absolutely. Okay, wait so we okay, so this house. What were you just about to say, You're about to say something until I interrupted, No, that we're just we're really we're really looking. And I mean with this, I think everyone kind of just different couples go different directions with I guess I am and him and I are like, nah, let's go. Well. I think it's also like it's different for you too, because you have a career in Minnesota that doesn't really allow you to kind of just take time off for months on end and just kind of like really get to know each other. But I feel like this is such a good way for you both to kind of just jump into real life. You're gonna definitely see her and her element, and I feel like you're going to find your own element and this is I don't know, I think this might be a recipe for success, and especially if you're finding a house. I'm coming over. I'll bring it home housewarming gift. Just let me know what you guys need. I got you. Yeah, we're definitely looking forward to this. This is gonna be like a lot of fun, finding the house, moving in together. We're looking forward. I feel like you were you were the first person. You asked me first, like, okay, cool, when am I coming to Minnesota? Yeah, he's ready, He's ready. I remember that conversation because it was like great after the engagement where we're still in Mexico, We're laying bed together. I'm like, we were just talking having fun. I think it was like a couple of days passed by and I was like, so I could probably cancel my lease, like really soon, like sho, He's like next month if you want, Like oh, like Michelle, this this is so important. You have to find somebody that actually gets excited and loves coming to Minnesota, because I feel like most people, and I will say I've been in relationships in the past where people have kind of pooh pooed and they've been like, no, what, it's cold, I'm not that excited. But I will say it's game changing when you have a partner who is thrilled like Nate. I love this attitude. I love that you are already what's the word, Um, you're already Minnesotan or whatever. Yeah, you're only projecting of what your futures could look like together. And I mean we've I mean Tasiana, We've seen season after season and people sometimes couples come from the show and they're like, see you, we're not quite sure yet, and well, maybe we'll go here, maybe we'll go there. But it's so important when you guys are on the same page and can actually make plans and put down roots because at the end of the day, like, it's you too in your relationship, and that's really all that matters. But having somebody who is supportive and gung ho about coming to Minnesota is so key. You get some points, Nate. Yeah, see, these are the points that I've been wanting to share with everybody, but I couldn't. So now, well, let's talk about some more points that Nate has possibly scored throughout this season. Because now you guys are out in the open, we can really talk about your true feelings now and get some better insight between both of you. But let's go back to Night one. Nate, You've got the first impression Rose and the first kiss. I mean, did you know, okay for both both of you, Michelle, did you know he was the one? And Nate, did you know she was the one? Just from that kiss alone or just from that night I think, I think, well, we've actually had this conversation before. We are both not really like love at first sight people, and I think for us, but I was like, we just always have wanted to make sure that there's like depths there and we like connect on all these different levels and that we're going to connect outside of this entire point. So as much as it seems like you spend a lot of time together, like you really don't like our conversations. They definitely were progressive, but they were also so quick and so I feel like we're asking the questions that we needed to ask. But for sure, like we were both like nah, I love that first site. No, Like I mean he was attractive, dude. I remember him walking out a limit and be like, okay, partly, but it definitely that whole season to make sure that we were on the same page with each other and that we you know, we could see a partner and both of us yeah, and like and going back to kind of like that night one, Like Night one was really special, especially getting like like I'm not the type two to like going for for kisses and whatnot. So I remember like when Michelle did kiss me, I was like, you just unlocked a can of worms because every time I know, and I learned my lessons really quick at the date when she she she sweared me. But but anyways, m Michelle, that very first night when she came down, she said something along the lines of I'm looking for somebody to make or be or make the most natural out of an unnatural environment. I was really like what I was focused on pretty much the entire time. Okay, I want to know because it might not have been love at first sight for you too, but for both of you, when was the moment that you knew and it clicked where Michelle you were like, Okay, it's Nate. It's gonna be Nate. This is it, and vice versa for you, Nate, m that's do you want to start? You want me to start? For me, i'd have to say after the basketball group day, the conversation that Michelle and I had, the conversation that Michelle and I had after that basketball day, I just remember kind of going back to my hotel room after that cocktail party, laying in bed and just thinking to myself, like, well, you know, like I was just like, okay, this is what's going on here? Like I didn't, I just I was fully I guess I was like, okay, I'm, I'm, I'm I'm gonna have to like really see, like see what's going on here because this is this is somebody that after that one conversation, I was like, okay, like I am, I'm seriously drawn to this individual. Um And I don't know what I was expecting, but I didn't think I was going to feel that so soon. And so it was that I was on and I remember Yeah, like I said, we had a conversation and everything that was said in that conversation and the way that we were just the conversation that we had, the way that we were bouncing off each other, the way that we couldn't stop smiling, like I haven't felt that way before. Um and maybe like per se, the whole like sparks and and and love at first night wasn't necessarily the first night. There was so much going on that first night with Yeah, that that first conversation, the true conversation after a cocktail, like for me at least, I was a definition of like sparks were flying and I never experienced that before, and I was like, I was, I just remember being nervous. I was just like, I need to hold on to this, like I gotta I gotta like really see this through and see what's lawn here, because I've never felt this way before. And that was, you know, the first group date. So that was when I was like, I'm happy I came. You know. So back to I thinking back to your first conversation where he yelled like, I'm so happy I signed that contract. I'm so happy. I'm so happy. Oh you mean to be on the show happy that you did too, But for me, it was um that. So the conversation that Nate was talking about was after that conversation, I had actually taken a minute to step aside because I had become really emotional. It's just like that I was having for Nate and not realizing that you could feel that strongly for somebody. But then you know, him and I are both very um realistic, like logical people too, and wanting to make sure, okay, is this something that can last. I don't want this to be infatuation, you know, especially from his point or from his point, there's a bunch of other men. From my point, it's like I'm the only girl, I'm the only option. Wait, didn't you know? There's just all these different layers and for me coming into it. And I think, Tasha you know this too, because we had some conversations about this. But I give everything one hundred and ten percent. Maybe that's that maybe too much at times, but I really did like force myself to be open and so that you know, could I have shut off early on and been like, Yep, this is my strongest connection, this is who I'm madly in love, like feeling like I'm falling madly in love. What can be done? Yes? But I also felt like are you left with what ifs? And so I did really challenge myself to stay open. But with that said, like that also puts a lot on him, you know, watching all of this back and having me be so open with everybody and you know, really instilling one hundred percent into this entire journey and process, and it can it's a beautiful thing, but it's also a really difficult thing to handle. And I mean he, I mean, he's been awesome, but it's not going to be easy and it hasn't been. But to be able to actually finally like be together now and start taking steps forward where it's like yep, okay, like this is mine, like let's you know, do you feel like that? And yeah, but it was There's definitely a lot of moments where I felt so so, so so strong, and it's like is this do I say it? Do not say? Well, Michelle, we knew. I think everyone watching just knew how gravitated, gravitated towards Nate you were. Is that the right phrase to use? Towards gravitated towards me? And you just And it's easy for us as viewers to kind of pick up are every relationship that you have and be like, oh, well, she's more like this with somebody and more like this. But every time you were with Nate and you two were together, it was just it was like you could just tell you just radiated and you were just and I kind of remember being in your position like trying trying to keep things in enough where you don't give all of your cards away, you know, like you can't because again, like you are dating multiple people at that point. But now, like you just said, you are in public like he is yours. Now you can shout it from the rooftops. It's just this is where your true story begins. But it's not easy. And going back to when you said you know you had to be open to every relationship, I think that that just solidifies how you now feel for Nate because you went through every relationship, you had the what ifs, you asked, all the questions, you got to the very end to know, Okay, who can I not live without? Who can I not picture leaving here without this? Whatever man is by my side, and it of course is Nat And I think that's so important, And you been such I would say, a solid foundation for Nate to feel open, and you know it's not always easy expressing everything we're feeling and all of these crazy emotions that are basically on a roller coaster through each season. So Nate, I want to ask you, because if Michelle has been very vocal about where she's at in your relationship, how she's feeling, and trying to get the right questions from you answered. So last night we saw your final date between the two of you was with the Shaman, and you know you struggled a bit. I think it was maybe uncomfortable to completely open up, especially in front of a stranger. I totally get it, and I would have laughed. I would have felt uncomfortable too, So I totally understand how you were probably feeling in that moment. So and so you were finally able to open up more towards the evening with Michelle about where you were at and give her the reassurance that she was looking for in that moment. So what was it about her that helped you finally let your guard down and be fully vulnerable and get to the point on that last day where you both were able to say yes to an engagement. Yeah. Um, honestly, I think, like I think for me, it's like I I just don't know how to properly. I just just I don't think it, Honestly. I don't think it's a bad thing about me. Everybody has their own like opinions, but like when it comes to like moments like that of trying to express yourself and you know, especially just you know, I don't know, Um, it's hard for me to like really get into expressing myself. You know, for whatever teach their ow and everybody everybody, you know, some people are really good at baking cakes and some people can't bake. For I express myself those type of environments like you know, Um, but I tried my best. You know, I tried my best, and I think at the end of the day, like my um how I felt came out clear enough for Michelle to understand in that moment exactly where I was. Um, you know, I think I think Michelle knows now you know that we left that bubble that I'm much better at expressing myself when there isn't a lot of weird things going on, and there isn't play and smoke being blown in your face and the shaman and twenty people watching behind the cameras. Yes, I think, Um, when I have time to fully understand, like or fully get how I feel inside down on a piece of paper, Um, that's where I really shine. Because if it's just right there in the moment and there's everything's going on and you want to tell you like you know, like hey, how do how exactly do you feel about this? It's like okay, like let me like have some time to really like I don't want to misspeak, you know what I mean? So like one thing that I do, it really enjoys like letting Michelle know all the time how I feel so I am like a love letter type individual, right. Michelle has received a few of those, and I think it's just a testament. It's like people feel comfortable in different settings, and by no means is having cameras in your face, catching every conversation, every kiss easy. And that's why I mean, I will say that you did have the best person by your side in Michelle to kind of pull that out of you. But now now is the time, like now is where your story actually begins as a couple and you can and I'm sure you've already done this in your happy couple weekends when you spend time together. Is now this is when you can really have those conversations away from everyone else, the things that are important to both of you to ask to answer. And I trust both of you and I know that you've probably gotten there, and you'll have so much more time now to be able to feel comfortable and open up in those safe spaces away from all of our prying eyes and ears. Exactly. I mean the first time that Michelle and I said that we loved each other, that we were falling in love with each other, that we were falling for each other, we did all that the best we could to be off camera, you know, like we I remember the first time I told her that I loved her, there was like a lot of noise going on and the camera wasn't pointed at us. So I was like, this is a perfect opportunity, Like I told her, like, I do not want the first time I tell you this to be shared with anybody but you. I don't need America to see me saying this for the first time. So like there's there's so much stuff going on in the background, and I noticed that there's no camera on us. I was like, I need you to know that I genuinely love you. Obviously, I know that this is a television show and it is for entertainment, but like, my feelings aren't entertainment. My feelings aren't just this thing for people to watch, right, So that's why it was really important for me that every single like the first time that Michelle hears me say I love you, and the first time that Michelle's hears that I'm falling in love with you, I want that to be between you and me only like the very first time, the second, third, thousand times. Sure, let the rest of the world that, but the first time, I only want you to hear that, you know what I mean. So like that's when I would like wait to wait for that small little moment where there's not a camera on us and that there's a lot of people talking in between, like what we're doing, activities on on on different dates and whatnot for me to like say like teller, like I just want you to hear this, and like this is the first time I'm telling you this time I generally love you or I'm genuinely falling in love with you, because that's not that's not anybody else else's business. For the first time I say something like that, that's for me and you you know, so um, and it was just like it was first Yes it was the first time you're saying it to me, but it was the first time you're saying it. Yeah, you know, I don't. Yeah. I hope hopefully that's you know, doesn't come across weird or anything like that. But like I know that this this is for entertainment, but like to a certain point, like this this is so my feelings, Like this is somebody that wants to the rest of my life with and I don't need that to be people's entertainment. I need that to be for you and I you know, I respect that. I think the hell about that so much, and I want you, I want you to hold on to that as I feel like as much as it's exciting and it's so fun to share it with everyone and we all are rooting for you, we all want to like kind of like, you know, put our advice to help everybody like flourish in the situation like it's between you two, and I just really want you guys to remember that and hold on to that because it gets loud. It gets real damn loud, but at the same time, like it's just like when you're, well, I'm gonna give you a dignity. I was gonna say it's when you're playing a basketball game, but but it just gets really loud in the stands and you're like there's so much like noise going on. But you have to be like centered in yourself and like talk, you know what I mean, Like give yourself a pump up, and you two need to just have these conversations behind closed doors and remember what you fell in love with and why you guys are together, and that'll make all of this, all of this so much more worth it and so many more happy memories. Like it's just that's what this is all about, not all of our little opinions, you know, obviously, you know, we want to include people and we want you know, like it is. It is this amazing thing to be able to to showcase like these relationships and falling in love and yeah, but it is really nice to have that private moment and I think Nate and I will definitely continue to do that where there's a moment that we have to step back and be like, okay, like let's just be humans together. And they kind of explain it as there are times where you do you do feel like you're in like a zoo exhibit where everybody's constantly, like you know, watching everything you're doing and wanting to take pictures and they forget that you're human. And in that moment when Nate was able to do that, it was like, I, you know, I was a bachelorette and there's a lot that comes with that, but to be able to have that private moment was actually just really special for me. It's always a good thing to set boundaries and if there's any advice that we could give you at this point in time, it's okay to step aside and not be in this quote unquote bachelorette and contestant role, Like you will need to say no to people at times. You will need to, you know, have your private moments when you're still in public and just focus on the two of you, And that's totally okay. One thing, and this is actually something that he should touched on a couple of weeks ago with Rodney and your final four. But you two have made history within this franchise and it's such an incredible moment for you too, because you truly are the first couple of color to come from the Bachelor or the Bachelorrette. And so how does that feel for both of you? It's about time, Yeah, I mean it is a very cool thing for that to be to be shown. And I think with that is just I mean, Nate and I have have always been like goal setter. As we talked about that, I have always been a goal setter um when he's when he came in and our conversations that we had, like we definitely really align with that um. And so it's been cool to be a part of this experience intimate history in this way, um, but yeah, it's it's just kind of a trampoline for us with all we're gonna do night. No, I agree back maybe, Hey Nate, Michelle, one thing you've said since the beginning is you want to change the world, and I think so many, especially young younger people, younger I don't want to say kids, but just the younger generation watching this can now see you two and this this successful love story from the franchise and the first time that this has happened on a batcherette season, and it's so incredible and you know, taking it back to Rachel Lindsay season, this is why she signed up to be the Bachelorette years ago, is because she hoped she would pave the way for young women and men people of color to join the franchise and to you know, depict these real life love stories. And I think that's so important. So this is just a small baby step in how I'm sure you both will change the world. But I can't wait to see you too do it together. One thing I want to say before aletatia aside question is just you. You seem so up and this is a compliment. You seem so calm and just grounded with each other. It's of course such an exciting time for you both, but you both just have this content I would say, ease with one another. That's really great to see. I mean, don't let this flu you. But no, it comes down to what it really did. Like this, there's a lot to deal with, there's a lot to navigate through, and it's like we both have our moments where we like where he struggles, where I struggle, and then we both struggle at the same time, and then we figure out a way through it. Um. But definitely I use planes. I mean, I mean we literally, uh like how we spent our time during the Fantasy Suits the overnights, was sitting criss cross album sauce in bed and just talked for like five six seven hours, like just not so talk like super aggies, like we're just kicking. I just had a good time. Um. And that that definitely is a good way to sum up how I feel when I am with Michelle is just you know, I'm just I'm just with my person. You know, I'm just with my first time uncomfortable. We're just your guys are giving me the chills over No. I mean, I have to say at least you guys have you know, started the relationship off with the firm foundation that you guys know that you love each other. So that's all that matters. But how are you going to spend the holidays? I want to know you guys are making your memories. Christmas is coming up, New Year's is coming up. Nate, you better get some mistletoe. You got a cute girl to kids, and Michelle's gold probably to jump up there and get you. But how are you guys gonna sit in the holidays? Um? Our family, So we'll be with my family to start off, and then we'll be driving into Winnipeg to visit his dad, his sisters to mean I for the first time. I'm so excited. Get ready for the waterworks. Oh my gosh. Well, and then his mom Charles are going to come back to Minnesota spend some time with both Nate and I and my family. So we're gonna bring the families together, uh yeah, yeah, you know, and then next Christmas it will definitely I can see all this being together in the same room. This year, with travel and with COVID and everything, we definitely have to you know, travel to see you know, families in different areas. But yeah, I'm just I'm happy that we are going to get some time with both of our families together. Okay, driving distance isn't bad. That's that's amazing actually that you guys are able to do that. Seriously, it really all worked out for the best. Really, didn't you another like pro to to moving to Minnesota? It really is just a seven hour drive, you know, quick one hour flight, you got it. So I hate to be this person. I remember cringing every time I was asked this, right when I was newly engaged in don't do it. I have to I have to do I have to be the first person to ask this for anyone else, because they are a first interview any wedding plans, any dates, any ideas anything. Told me later, Yeah, summertime, um, and we are going to leave it at that summertime. Just okay, but in the next year. Hey, this is more than most couples of every day know and give us. So this is good, this is gold. This is what I wanted. Absolutely told me later for asking that again. He was a person like, so when do you want to start talking about dates? I was like, all right, keeper, Nate, you are just I'm very proud of you. I am too. I am too, Nate. I will say last week on the podcast, I was a little hesitant because of the whole you know, you've never been in love before. But I am eating my words now and again. I trust Michelle, and just seeing you too, talking with the both of you together just reassures me. And it just this is such a good period. I get it now. It totally fits, and I'm so happy for you both. Many double dates to come. I'm gonna say that, I'm going to manifest that now. Wait, I want to say, Wheel, that's so rude. I'm here, I don't. Well, we will, we will triple date. We will find a nice Minnesotan man for you. But listen, I just okay, we'll we'll talk about so aside from all of that, you know, before we start getting into the game and have some fun with you both. Um, I want to ask you what the rose and thorn of this entire experience was for each of you. Who wants to go first? Okay, my rose would definitely have to be meeting a person that I had no idea that any like man like him existed when like but when it really though when it comes to like intellectual setting, just supporting and how do you want, you know, your partner to be in a relationship. But then also like showing me all these new things that I've truly come to like love and enjoy. So I feel like he just takes me as I am, you know, whether I mean, I had this really bad habit of like getting out of the shower without drying off. The whole bathroom is soaked, and to the point where like he slipped before, my mom has slipped, Like I've gotten grounded for it in the past because it's been like thing to do and I have places to be, Okay, so I get out and I you know, I've noticed, like he's like, you get the like why is the bathroom always soaked? And I'm like, I'm sorry, Like I'll work on it. I know that I've made a lot of people mad with it, and he's like no, no, no, He's like, leave it. I love it because it's your flaw, and I just love it. It's because because you do it. So he just he truly accepts me. And that's that's my rose m my Thorn would probably have to be just like honestly just navigating through all of this, all these different things, and so many of the moments you know, where you really do fall in love and with everything how the edit goes, and it's not like obviously all of that isn't shown or can't be shown or wasn't shown. And so I think that was the hardest part at times, is because you know, but those are memories for us. For me, I would have to say the rose is I mean one hundred percent just falling for the first time, really really being able to um experience what this is like, and and and feeling just like just so lucky, right, Like I don't I truly feel like I felt the person. I wow, I truly feel like I've met the person for me. Um. And I'm seven years old, you know, I got the rest of my life to really like just continue having this this once in a lifetime type of experience type of love. UM. And I'm you know, it's just it really is beautiful, right, it really is beautiful. UM. So I'm really happy about that. UM. And then for the Thorn, UM, I mean, it has it has been difficult. I was just kind of watching this season play back, UM and and and at the end of the day. I understand that that this is a television show for entertainment, and that, um, you know, people have like this, this is people's jobs right to edit the show and tell the story that they wanted that they want to tell. So that that was a little frustrating at times. Um. And and to be questioned too, Um, it is never fun, you know. I don't. I don't really like being questioned. I kind of kind of lead my life to make sure that I don't get questions too too often, and so it does kind of sucks to be questions so um publicly. But hey, at the end of the day, my rose, my rose, what was it, the rose in the thorn? Yeah, my rose definitely out weighs my thorn. So you know, I can't I can't be Um, I can't be disappointed for too long, right, I have Michelle, So I'm not. I was just gonna say at the end of the day, like, if you guys have anything, you guys just you have you found true love and like at aside from all of that, I feel like it is really difficult. It's really difficult to put yourself out there. Um. Michelle and I even talked about it, like definitely going to it wholeheartedly, like challenge yourself, make sure you feel all the feels about the end of the day, like she knows that she want to do and you wanted her and that's all you guys need. So it's difficult, Believe me, I understand that I have definitely been there, and that's what I was trying to tell you guys earlier. It doesn't necessarily get easier with all of the noise, but that's why you guys have to keep yourself grounded and with each other and really just keep relying on each other. You have all of us, you have me, you have all the other bachelorettes to always come ask for help, and you've got this. You absolutely do got this, and at the end of the day, this makes you ten times stronger. But when you get through all of this, you'll have all this look back on and know that you guys freaking did it and you're stronger than ever. So Roses and Thorn's hey, you gotta have them both. But I have to say, you guys are such a beacon of light together. I think you guys radiate positivity and I can absolutely see that you guys are going to be a power couple, a force to be reckoned with. And I cannot wait to just watch and see what you guys do in life. So I have a quick game for us all to play. I really want to put you guys to the Chestis are gonna be very difficult, Okay, very difficult. I hope you guys know each other very well. It's called the newly engaged game? Are you do you? Okay? Who is the funniest? Why do you know? Okay? I don't Okay, I don't know, because I would say we sit and we are rolling laughing all the time. Okay, that's fair, that's good. Yeah, okay, Well who is more romantic? Yeah? It really? Yeah, Like I get flowers, scent like constantly letters like little mid day check in love you text. Um fiance has not texted him back until five pm because she's trying and it's just just so chaotic and busy. So so yeah, yeah, he's more romantic. Actually, I love that. More points for you. Um. Who is the loudest? For black lettle baby kid, He's always you. He's singing a lot. He's constantly singing I'm too but you can't tell because you're singing still I think I know the answer to this. But who is messier? I was actually gonna say that, which is so funny. I cleaned it up, but like I'm constantly on the go, and so like I come in he's, oh yeah, he like insanely clean. Like I'm a germophobe. I feel like, just a certain extent, I'm in Stanley clean, but like I lose everything. So I come into my clean room and I tear it up just trying to find my car keys. I hear that, I hear that. Okay, well we'll have to work on that one. Yeah. But see who is more likely to cook? Oh? Definitely right here, no, no, now, Michelle alone wants to cook, and I'd like to be in there. I'd like to be cheffing up saying I love to chef up. And I'm like, maybe I got it. I'm gonna let me cook for me clean. You just sit there having me as you know, let's watching a movie, listen to music, listen to podcasts. I just you know. But she definitely barges her way into the kitchen and tries to house and whatnot, which is cool. It's nice. I'll get even. Okay, what a shame she wants to make you dinner. But hey, at the same time, it's not bad that he wants to make you dinner. Catering to Michelle. You know, I gotta man. So my mom like gets on, like, are you like me? What's your favorite meal to make her? And what's your favorite? Well, since you haven't, have you made a meal for him? At least? Has he let you no breakfast? Okay? Is he a good cook at least? Yeah? Yeah, I feel like we both Yeah. But you know, like if you know she she's working, you know, she's dealing with kids all day, Like, let me, let me take care of it. I love that. I love that, let me take care of it. Okay, So who is more likely to do the dishes after cooking? If he cooks, I do the dishes. If I cook, she does the dishes. Yeah. We love a compromise. I love that we are off to a great start, Ladies and gentlemen. Who takes longer to get ready me? Yeah? Okay, Hey girl, it takes a little bit of work, but you don't need that much work. You're gorgeous. Who is the better dancer? Yeah, definitely Michell. Oh he's dancing though even on the sea, Like I'm just kind of in my own little world. I dance through the store, I dance through that. I'm always she'll always ask you, and she's good at it. Like I danced. You know it's not good, but I like that. So you don't have rhythm? No, he does. He hold himself to a very high standards when he's saying he can't dance, like like if you gave him a dance er team, he would be able to do it and make it not look awkward. Maybe and make it not look awkward. That's really good. Okay, so you're good. Yeah, so dancy the stars. Maybe we'll talk about it. Might take a lot of work. Two rookies on the same team. Let's go, that'd be amazing. Um, who has better taste in music? Oh, we're really good. That's both. We both have very similar taste. But I will say he is the DJ because I love like everything. He just pulls up any whatever song he pulls up. I'm like, oh, this is news vibe. This is a vibe. Weally like genuinely listen, Like you know when people are oh, what do you listen to? Listen everything, they're like they really listened to just like four genres like yeah, I literally listen to everything. Yeah. I come home and he's listening to eminem I come home and he's crying to it. Have you cried to the adult out of me? That's the next question. Okay, a few of those songs hit. That was a great album. It's actually phenomenal. I listened to it on the daily. I know every word. I know every word. I was like, you go a dawn, Let you let these below who was most likely to steal the sheets? To what steal the sheets? See, we don't have that issue. What happens? I get crowded and next you know, I'm half my bodies off the bed. He is a cuddle er. Let me tell I love it. I love every second of it. But I was like, you know, can I get like a little bit more room, a little bit more to the last? Let me let me this. I have to wake her up. It'll be like three am anything like, can I get like like three more inches so left? Like I'm halfway up? Hey, let me tell you this. It's all about spots. Picked your spot wisely. If you you don't pick your spot in the pick your spot in the middle, so that when I talk to you, you're still in the middle this man or like whether I'm in the bed or not. You know, like, yeah, people sleep on their side, like on the side of the bed, but like when nobody else is in it, like I swear he likes to like feel like adrenaline junkie, like halfway off the beds still just like, oh my gosh, who is most likely to plan an adventure? Both? Oh? Would you? I'm a planner. I'm a huge pans a planner. I'll just find myself I'm adventure and not knowing that I'm in the middle of adventure. Michelle will be the one who plants it out for us, like top planning for like would you plan like a spontaneous state adventure day? Oh? Yeah, yeah, she would do it more often than that would Yeah for sure. That's good. Well, guys, that's all the questions I have for you. I mean, I feel like we've really got to know y'all. This was so fun. Again. I am so sorry for not being here last night, but I think I got the better half. Honestly, I think this is exactly what I wanted to talk about today and get to know you guys. A little bit more. You guys look so happy and radiant. I'm so happy you guys are able to be out in the open, have so much fun for Christmas and for New Years. Behave yourself, but have fun with your families and make the most of it. You're free, well, thank you. I we free well enjoy it you guys. We're wishing you all the very best. Congratulations to the future mister and missus Olukoya. Truthfully, I am just so incredibly happy for them. They you could just feel it, you could feel it through the screen that they are just so happy, and I truthly think that they're a match me in heaven. So thank you so much to all of our Bachelor Happy our listeners for following with us this entire season. Thank you so much to Michelle and Nate for being here, and thank you Michelle for being an incredible bachelorette to whom we all have actually looked up to. We are so happy to welcome her into this family of incredible women and we cannot wait to see what is next for her and Nate. 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