Braves sign back Iglesias & acquire Dubon from Houston, Elly was hurt

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(2:37) The Braves are making their usual early offseason moves. They're bringing back closer Raisel Iglesias. Was he more prone to sign with Atlanta because they kept him the entire 2025 season? 

(10:19) Step 2: The Braves acquired Gold Glover Mauricio Dubón from the Astros for infielder Nick Allen. We analyze this move.

(16:20) MLB rights deals were announced. We'll have Andrew Marchand on a podcast soon to talk about it.

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(18:54) Are the Phillies going to non-tender Alec Bohm? Plus, is Rob Refsnyder the perfect LHP-mashing fit to platoon in Chicago?

(21:43) Elly De La Cruz was hurt in the second half of the season. It all makes sense now.

(26:04) Will Grayson Rodriguez be ready to pitch a full season in 2026?

(29:29) The non-tender deadline is Friday. We check out some candidates who could be moved or cut.

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00:00:03
Speaker 1: Crats Look who I found.

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Speaker 2: It's the Todd. The painting was a gift Todd.

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Speaker 3: I'm keeping it and I'm gonna keep it. What's up, Cratzy. Good to see a big doggie.

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Speaker 2: Good to be seen kid. You look refreshed, rejuvenated.

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Speaker 3: And I'm in the hood for sure. This nice hood.

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Speaker 4: But vacation a little longer vacation than I wanted to. But actually no, it was a good, good, long vacation. I shouldn't say I didn't want to. I wanted to.

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Speaker 1: You wanted to and you were warm. It was it was nice, yeah, very nice Florida sunshine.

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Speaker 4: It was delicious. You've been there a bunch of times. We had we had one bad day, but that was the day we went. Uh you know that that tour you could take, You know, you can hop on all different parks in one day. You get your private tour, so you know what, Yeah, so you get behind the scenes action, like we went to.

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Speaker 3: Where do we go to Safari? First we went to the.

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Speaker 4: Animal Kingdom, right, and that was great. They say, go in the morning, the animals are just waking up. You'll see a lot more animals. Then we went to Magic Kingdom and went on Tron and we're like, you know what, we want to go on again, So we go right back to the front of the line. So then we went to Epcot. At the end, we wanted to go on Guardians the Galaxy. We went on three times. That probably my most it's the most famous, most famous ride ever. You love it, my most favorite ride ever.

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Speaker 1: Super cool, like.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you get that that flavor where you don't have to wait on lines. They take you behind the scenes where the workers park and they they're like, dude, you can go on this five times in.

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Speaker 3: A row if you want. We just kept going. That's the ten of us. It was great.

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Speaker 1: That's the Bougeye Hyperpass right there.

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Speaker 2: Cotch, Yeah, they have they have the pass and then they got the Fraser Pass and the frame.

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Speaker 3: Anybody can get it though anybody can can six kids. It was. It was nice.

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Speaker 2: Anybody can get it. Todd, you gotta hit some diggers. You gotta hit more diggers than I hit to be able to afford that. Let's put that way.

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Speaker 3: Listen.

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Speaker 4: I talked to the guy, I got his number four. You I got your little hook up. If you really want to.

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Speaker 2: Go the Fraser front of the line pass I'll take.

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Speaker 1: Beauty. We're gonna have some fun. Todd Father's on with us tomorrow as well, and we actually are going to have quite a few moves. It's the non tender deadline tomorrow, so you'll see some players cut, some names that we know. You'll see some players traded away, including one that we're going to get to in a moment. Let's charge charge multiple Braves moves. I want to start with friisel Iglesias. The Braves opted to not trade him at the deadline. Instead, they keep him even though they weren't in contention. He pitches very well down the stretch, and now he's back to a team that's contending in twenty twenty six one year, sixteen million bucks. This is a good barometer of approximately where the price will go for a closer like this. There are better ones out there, so they might be pushing twenty plus a year. But Mark Bowman helping us out with the final forty five appearances in twenty twenty five for Rice Ilglacia's Todd Father that is pristine one two five ERA thirty percent K percentage twenty one out of twenty two saves in those final forty five appearances. This was him answering a question from a fan wondering if he would be a setup guy if the Braves land a legit closer. I think this is their closer for twenty twenty six, and they're paying him the same that they paid him in the previous season sixteen million bucks to bring him back. One other thing to add before you comment is some think that he was more prone to signing with Atlanta because they kept him. Do you think that's the that's a thing of players.

00:03:51
Speaker 4: I love this question because I'm sure it's in a lot of people's minds, fans and you know, other guys that have played. But listen, I've been a part of six team crats. He's been a part of a bunch more. I think you're more susceptible of trying to link back with that team. And I say this knowing that won the relationships and too comfort just being comfortable. And I know when I was a free agent, I was a guy that basically said, hey, listen, you know we haven't got much offered these first month, month and a half. Let's go back to the teams that I was with and see maybe there's a connection there. You know, maybe I'll take a little less just to go back to there because I know the place. Yeah, it's just about being comfortable about knowing your surroundings and do you like the people around you, And I think that that was a major cause of this. I think it's a perfect place for him. I love Ross Ayo. He's a really good dude, Scottie. He's fun loving dude. He can pitch. I know he's had some injuries over the years, but this is a guy. I mean, shoot, one year, sixteen million. What happens if he does it again what he did in the back half, You never know. Then he can get a bigger deal. But yes, I think this is a great sign the Braves keep doing this. This is like you know, you know, day Drave all over again with with this. Like last year, they were the first ones. They came out and got the right handed pitcher from the White Sox. I'm just having a little brain fard here of who it was, but they came out and I think it was low Pez right right now, Lopez, and we're like, man, what a great what a great deal for them. So they're they're they're firing right now early and they're gonna be firing offten.

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Speaker 3: We'll see.

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Speaker 1: Well, they kept Lopez. They got him a couple of years ago, right, and then he had a great movie. They kept him. On The point is Anthopolis likes to do his business early in the off season.

00:05:34
Speaker 3: He wants to go on vacation.

00:05:36
Speaker 1: He wants that Phraser pass.

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Speaker 2: He knows how much he wants to pay. And I don't know necessarily that Russell has gotten, you know, gave the team a team discount on this one. I just think your question, Scott was, do you feel some type of way because the team didn't trade you? No, Like I've been traded, cut, rehired, fired again, re signed, like I've pretty much gone through every type of transaction. Like I was pissed that the Brewers got rid of me in nineteen. I was pissed that they went and got YASMANI Grandal had the Brewers called me like at the end of nineteen and when I was a minor league free agent in the middle of the season, I'd going back there like I had while I was pissed at him, you still want to be in the big leagues. Rycelle Iglesias doesn't have that issue. If he was, you know, maybe he was mad he didn't get traded because he didn't get to go play in the playoffs. Like sometimes guys would be cool like I'm fine getting traded, like we ain't going nowhere this year. Our team is brutes mcgoots. But so the whole like feeling, ah man, I feel it's different when a guy's been with an organization for six years and then they're like, ah, he left in free agency, no way he comes back, or he gets traded part way through. You don't want your big time free agents, which risell is not to go and test the other waters, to go and see and talk to a team like hey, what's this clubhouse? Like what's your travel? Like? How's that different? Especially you know when you have a guy that has to be resigned for a decent contract. So I just think this case is it's not the same case. But I'm sure there are people who would be like, no, I'm not resigning back there if they traded me. Screw those guys, which, you know, check your feelings a little bit.

00:07:25
Speaker 3: Check the MYSA.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a microphone on?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: He does, Yeah, which is great on the screen.

00:07:35
Speaker 1: Okay, we're just getting a question, all right, so I'm in between here. Ready, Ready, If I sell Glaciers gets offered one year twenty million to a different team, he's probably gone there. Sure, right, Sure, one year seventeen million. Also, let's keep in mind taxes are thing, right, So it depends on the stage where you going.

00:08:02
Speaker 3: This was a team he was a free agent or was he not free agent? Free agent?

00:08:05
Speaker 4: And they went one year sixteen and he said yes, yeah, And everybody understands that he's thirty five years old.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, this is a free agent who's making this decision? Right? And I think it depends on where you are, how much money you've made, how much is the difference between what you're being offered and what other teams are throwing out? There are other teams even throwing anything out there. And the reason I ask that is many teams are kind of softerly on in the offseason and they just dance. They call the agents, they tickle, They say, oh, we like this part about him, we don't like this part about him. This is the range that we think. We talked a lot of free agents right over off seasons and they tell us about the whole little tap dance that they do, and he gets a call, Hey, here's a real offer. Maybe you'll get a few mill more. But if you want to wait and be the last man standing out of the closer carsel, which there are many of them, you might not get the number that looks like this. This is a comfortable spot. They go for it, so I give them credit on that front. You have one more pointcraft and then I want to get to what else the Braves did.

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Speaker 2: I love sixteen I mean we'd even hit on it. I love sixteen million for a closer right now at thirty five years old. Chappie signed an extension for thirteen a year last year and he's he's the closer of the year for the American League. Like for him. I like that Alexanthopolis has always done this. There's certain organizations that say we'd love to have you back. Some organizations say we'd love to have you back, but at a little hometown discount. There's other organizations and I know AA Alexanthopolis is that type where he's like, here's what I know you're worth. You go out and pedal that deal, come back to us, and that's what we'll give you. As long as everybody's honest and upfront. That's all they're looking form.

00:09:46
Speaker 1: Hey, with Iglesias, I think you made an adjustment too. You give a lot of homers in the first half of the season. There were quite a few sliders catching a little too much of the plate. You didn't see as much of that in the second half of the year. You look at some of the pitches that missed for him in the first half of the season that led to homers. They had quite a few what Fangrafts calls meltdowns. That's a new stat that we'll have to get to at some point. They pegged him at eleven. That's a lot, but a lot of action on the wrong side came in the beginning of the season, which happened to be bad timing for an Atlanta team that played much better down the stretch. But they kind of lost it early. Okay. So step two for the Braves is the trade they make with the Astros two very good defensive players, moving Nick Allen from the Braves over to Houston right, and he played really good shortstop defense for them last year at one of the weakest bats in the Bigs. Mauricio Dubon goes the other way, super utility guy who can play a number of different spots and play it well. And he's a better offensive player than Nick Allen. Some people online are like, oh see, this is their backup option for shortstop. I think the Braves are going for a little more big game hunting on their every day starting shortstop. But Dubon gives you a ton of insurance. Todd Father, it's not just at short as the Allbeasts dealt with a number of injuries over his career and he's coming off surgery. Austin Riley's dealt with some injuries lately. So this is the guy you can plug in just about anywhere for Atlanta and he kind of what some people will say, ups your floor, right, This is a better hitter than Nick Allen and a guy who should play comparable enough defense at a number of different spots to make you better.

00:11:17
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think having that one guy that can play different spots is key, especially for a Braves team that has the injuries, that has the guys on the team where you're like, oh, I hope he hope he's healthy all the way through the year, so this guy can step in. He's not afraid to play any position. I love Nick Allen played with him in the USA team when we want a silver medal. But you know, his defense is great. It's got to pick that bat up. I think he will. You know, he's not the home run hitter. He's not the guy who's going to drive in you know, eighty runs a game or a season. Excuse me, but again, you know, I don't know, you know what Houston was kind of thinking around this part. But you know, we never know. We never know what a team's thinking. They're trying to set up room for somebody else. But again, Dubam is a really good athlete. He's a good player. Is he going to wow you with the bat? No, but he is a pretty decent offensive player.

00:12:06
Speaker 1: I know what they were thinking, let's save a good chunk of money so we can spend it elsewhere. Because Houston is actually one of those team sprats that dances around the soft salary cap number. So those that don't think it works, it doesn't work on everyone, right unless you have a super hard cap, which the NBA doesn't even have if you keep your own guys, Houston dances around what is the luxury tax number. Jim Crean does that sometimes over, sometimes under, but that's the game that they play, and he really treats it like a salary cap.

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Speaker 2: He does. And I think this move was precipitated by the fact that they got Carlos Korea. They got him earlier, and it's like, well, you know what, if we take this on, we got to dump a little bit salary later. So moving around the cap, or moving around the CBT tax threshold as they want to call it. I hope it doesn't come back to Burnham because Houston's Houston's been there, They've been around that area the whole time, but they're paying some of their stars a little bit more. And when you have injuries and you're not willing to go over that cap, not willing to go over that threshold, sometimes you don't have the backup plans and du Bond's not going to light the world on fire at the plate, but he gives you gold Glove utility defense, which for the Astros it kind of mitigated some of those injuries and able to him to step in and sit through there till their starter came back. But the Braves now have been a team that have dudes that play one fifty five to one sixty two all year maybe they're seeing, Hey, you know what if we bring a guy like this in. Yes, we're still going to go after a shortstop, but now we have a guy who can step in and do bond and give everybody a day off. So instead of our one to fifty five's, we're playing one forty one forty five and we're staying healthy the whole time.

00:14:02
Speaker 1: The one other thing here is Ken wrote about how war wins Abo replacement strength for this position doesn't necessarily have to be super high for you to be a successful team. He pointed to the Mariners, the Yankees, Milwaukee, Cleveland, and Detroit as ranking in the bottom ten in Fangraft's war at the shortstop position, and he added the Toronto Blue Jays, who in September turned to Andre Semenez over at shortstop, who was one of the worst offensive players in the sport this season. I see all of that, but I would still rather have a shortstop that can thump. I think you could say that about almost any position, right, Like you could be a team that's a World Series team and doesn't have a great player offensively at one particular position, but like you'd rather have a dude that can mash and handle the position defensively, so I don't want that to be used as a cop out. I think the Braves are looking for shortstop. I just think that they want Kim. He might want to go somewhere else. There aren't a ton of great options out there this year. Trademarket pending. I mean, Ken mentioned Corey Seger in his in his article, I don't know if that's a feasible spot, and he also mentioned how they're actually on Seegers no trade list. That doesn't mean he wouldn't wave it, but we also don't know if he's necessarily available. That's a whole other world. But can we just agree that if you have the option of a shortstop kit that can match, you rather have that.

00:15:21
Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you?

00:15:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes you a better contending team, there's no doubt about that. And there are guys who can play ond.

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Speaker 2: And you don't necessarily have to get that offense from another position. Catching position is tough. Well, the Blue Jays had Alejandra Kirk down the stretch there who was giving you offense from the catching position? And the reason the Blue Jays got to where they were was because Boba Schett was driving in tons of rounds, So I get it. Andre Sementez helped them win throughout that stretch without Bo playing short. But I don't know, not a big fan of that stat there, Ken, but it's a great defensive position. Braves have really struggled there in the last well since they got rid of Dansby.

00:16:06
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. Yeah, Orlando Rcio was in that spot, and I mean was one of the worst shortstops for the year that you played. Yeah, I mean it all starts him the next year he wasn't good. But yeah, I got it. So we can debate it with Ken on Friday. He'll join us. Hey, there were a number of rice agreements announced yesterday for MLB, so adjust your screens accordingly. Twenty twenty six through twenty twenty eight, ESPN has the MLB Dot TV package. They also have thirty games which I believe are all exclusive and can be flexed. They have the Little League Classic, a Todd Father Special NBC and Peacock at Sunday Night Baseball, the Draft, the Futures Game in the Wildcard round, Netflix gets the home Run Derby Opening Night in the Field of Dreams game, which returns Fox and FS one get the All Star Game, the World Baseball Classic, and a number of playoff rounds including of course the World Series, TBS getting the LDS and LCS on the other side of what Fox gets, and then Apple Fridays. So there's a lot there. If you want to sort through it with us, we will do that tomorrow with someone who does this for a living, and that's Andrew Marshand, who covers sports media for the Athletic Nice.

00:17:11
Speaker 3: That's a lot we.

00:17:12
Speaker 1: Still get taught. Missed the Little League, I.

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Speaker 4: Know, and I know the Little League is a whole nother entity, which is great. So that'll be on ESPN at least till twenty thirty. So nice World Series. But it's good to have the Classic paired with. Yes, literally, you're always out there for that. And how cool is it when all the big boys show up. It's great. It's a great event, and it's thrilling for the kids. You know, whoever wins the game, it really it matters, of course, but at the same time, for the kids to have that experience, it's truly incredible.

00:17:41
Speaker 3: But yeah, this is a whole big ordeal.

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Speaker 4: I know we're going to get more into it tomorrow, but yeah, there's a lot of changes going on, and better get them apps out voice.

00:17:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe there's a lot to look at, a lot to pay attention to.

00:17:59
Speaker 2: There's a lot a lot of different channels. Hi, why's the Valies game on it? Why isn't it on? Why isn't it on an NBC Sports Philadelphia? What's the deal? I hate it when it's on this I hate it when it's on like, get with the program. It's okay, I'll never watch it when it's on that one. Really well, then you're just not going to watch the game.

00:18:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I mean that's just the state of sports right now. The only part I always laugh at is at one point I'm paraphrasing, Manford was almost acting like he's like testing out all these spots. It's like, you're not testing out this pot, You're just getting the best deal, and that's okay. I mean he sometimes talks about rev I'm like, just tell it like it is. You don't want it to be on ninety different places, but you're going to sell it to the places that make sense, and that's fine. I'm fine with that, and I think people know that. But acting like it's like, oh, we just want you know, one appetizer on the menu, like we want all ten on the menu from each spot because that'll please our palette. Come on, all right, we're back on the non tender list. There was one article that had Alec bohms him as possibility. Are resident Philly guy or krats? No way. I mean, even if the Phillies don't want to keep him, that's that's a big league ballplayer. Team's not going to take that on. For what is he going to make in his final season?

00:19:15
Speaker 2: I mean I don't even know if he I don't know if he eclipses the ten million mark. To me, yeah, I don't see why they would non tender the people. I think people just looked at it and they go, oh, you know, his ops plus his only you know, league average and stuff. But before this year, and I spent some time on IL this year, he's back to back ninety seven RBI seasons. Like you don't you don't need all superstars in every facet of your lineup. You need dudes that can do some other things. And like his defense is continually improving, Like I'm giving Todd's third basement love here, Like keep that man around.

00:19:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, he might get traded. But I mean, I think he's going to be okay on on keeping his job.

00:20:00
Speaker 3: Eight.

00:20:01
Speaker 1: We'll see that headline tomorrow bless you, but not beyond tomorrow because I might be sick, bless you.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what is it the weather changes and I become this time unnatural human being.

00:20:14
Speaker 2: Side you're sick all of that. You have a cough, a sneeze, or your face just looks sweat. But Boom, all the stuff about Boone getting traded, like last off season, it wasn't people. It wasn't the Phillies trading him. It was teams calling for him, like and everyone's like, oh they hate Bomb. He had that temper tantrum, he got sad at the end of the year. Other teams were calling for him. So they're not just they're not just getting rid of them. They're not just giving me away for free.

00:20:43
Speaker 1: I know a good show that has more on this. It's called The Philly Show bottom left corner of your screen. One other quick question I didn't get to for Mike g was a little in the weeds, he said, ref Snyder seems like the perfect left handed mashing fit to platoon with Owen Casey and right field in Chicago keeps saying the h any rumblings of this. Yeah, I could see the Cubs dancing like that. We gotta wake up crats. Oh they playing every day? Can we can we let every day you know, play every day?

00:21:17
Speaker 2: Yes. His his ability is to take the ball to the opposite field. I don't care if it's left or left right. All right, whatever your whatever your issue is, Like platoon, Cubs shouldn't build a platoon. They should build a team that will mash the entire NL Central So cool, awesome. I hope they get Rob because Rob is a good player, but Jacob.

00:21:39
Speaker 1: Days injury suck.

00:21:47
Speaker 3: Yeah.

00:21:48
Speaker 1: We had some news that broke from Nick Krawl, the president baseball operations for the Reds. He informed people that Elliot de la Cruz was dealing with a partially torn quad and that sounds pretty significant given that his production dipped off significantly in the second half of the season. He had a long power draft, his defense wasn't as sharp eggs of Vila numbers not as good. Right, Almost everything was down across the board, not to mention stolen bases sixty seven, which led baseball in twenty twenty four. Todd Father he totaled thirty seven stolen bags and he played a full season. He didn't look the same, and this does help to explain what the problem was.

00:22:29
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, you think about a couple of different scenarios, like why not just come out and say it so you know understandably, it's like, all right, well, knowing he doesn't beat out that ground bowl or he's not stealing anymore. Instead of having all this speculation two you get say, hey, man, you know gritty hard Nos, I love it. Everybody loves us about him.

00:22:49
Speaker 3: He's great.

00:22:50
Speaker 4: He fights through paying this and that I mean I hear partially torn or torn. To me, it's not that big of a difference because it's not fully healthy. So yeah, yeah, he played through it. I give him credit for him kudos. I think that's awesome. But you know, maybe there was a time you could have, you know, understandable if everybody kind of knew about it. You give him a day or two off. All right, yeah, and we understand what's going on. But for him to go out there and keep battling through it, even though the numbers were ticked down, goes to show to side of a person he is.

00:23:19
Speaker 2: Man.

00:23:19
Speaker 3: I give him respect for that.

00:23:20
Speaker 1: So I do want to mention this before Kratz comments. He said the comments on Wednesday or radio show, right, he said, I think a lot of people don't know this. At the end of the year, like towards the end of July, he was dealing with a partial torn quad. He's been rehabbing at the ballpark basically every day in the offseason, and then on Thursday he said it was a left quad strain, which is a partial tear. And he didn't want to make it sound like the injury was too serious. I mean, I'm not a doctor here. We just play that little ding at the top of the segment. But Kratz it does sound like it impacted him definitely.

00:23:55
Speaker 2: And a player will always put let's put it this way, a player that you want the field or on your team will always play through injuries. Todd knows there's dudes that don't play through Jack. They're like, ooh no, no, no, not gonna make it through this one. You know, they look on the mound and it's probably Trek Scubele or Chris Sale. But there's dudes that play through everything. So that's awesome that he wants to play through this that he wanted to be out there and felt like his eighty percent was better than anything else that they were going to put out there. This is where the training staff, the manager, the front office, the coaches need to be able to step in and say, we get it. You could be a franchise player for us. We have other people like Noel Vie Marte used to play shortstop. I don't think he's a shortstop anymore. They pushed him the right field. So a half a eighty percent Ellida Cruz, it's short is probably better than a lot of guys. But is there a chance that they could have gotten him off his feet, that they could have gotten him when he's in the middle of a slump of two hundred and one at bats where he had one home run like that, they could have said, hey, you know what this thing's really We can tell it's really bugging you and you're not one hundred percent, and we'll slot Noel v Marte in for a week. You'll come back, you'll be banger ring. He might fight you, he might say no, I want to play because I play. That's what I do. But you got to be able to make that decision. What's best for the team because the Reds clearly needed every single game to get to where they got to.

00:25:28
Speaker 1: Yeah, he played a full one sixty two. It's the whole balance of who would play instead of Ellie for that time period and would that be enough versus Ellie getting the rest and then maybe being more of a version of himself previously. We don't know the answer. What we do know is he was not close to one hundred percent. So yeah, all right, let's get two yes, last word.

00:25:52
Speaker 2: No, no, no, you just you had a guy that could step in. We're not talking the whole season, just to step in.

00:25:58
Speaker 1: That's it, right, right, all right, so we'll see the real version of Ellie again. In spring training, Texas native and now angel Grayson Rodriguez was asked if he'll be ready to pitch a full season. His response, absolutely. I had some bone spurs removed back in August this year. That was something that's kind of lingered with me for about three or four years now. I've held I've had them for a while, and I kind of just got to the point where I couldn't really pitch through it. Pretty sure. That's kind of what was causing some of the lat injuries. So just being able to get those out of there. My arm feels great right now throwing. There's really no question for me to be ready for spring training. Gratz, have you seen the guest list for tomorrow Friday show.

00:26:39
Speaker 2: I have, and I'm so glad that Grayson's coming on. I mean that was ironic. He was going to be coming on anyway, and he's still coming on. And I'm so glad that I have gotten eviscerated on Twitter for the comments I said about the fact that Grayson Rodriguez is still a good pitcher and the fact that the Orioles should not have gotten rid of him. I mean, everybody's very much. You know, what have you done for me lately? And you know what, he hasn't been on the field. I'm gonna double down and I'm gonna say careful what you wish for their people, just saying Grayson Rodriguez can pitch a baseball pretty well.

00:27:21
Speaker 1: Kratz is describing my Thursday morning at like eight am, going through YouTube comments, going back and forth with people. I'm going to save most of it the Baltimore side. We'll talk about. Since Ken Rosenthal put out a notes column that included some aggressiveness coming up for Baltimore. We will get to that. I just want to go back to the Grayson side for one more minute while we have it before we return here for the Angels. Come on, you gotta take a flyer, oh player like this. This is a no brainer, no brainer stuff. We've seen it play in the big leagues. He's gone through injuries. It's nothing out of the ordinary that we have seen from other young pitchers in the sport. There is a very good chance that Grayson Rodriguez figures out his health and then is a very effective picture for the Angels.

00:28:12
Speaker 2: Nope, no chance, Twitter says, no, there's no way. You're wrong. Scott is wrong. You're wrong. You're an idiot.

00:28:19
Speaker 3: What else idiot?

00:28:21
Speaker 1: Cooked? Favorite word cooked? Army is cooked? Oh really, twenty six year old arm with what how many innings in the big leagues is cooked already?

00:28:30
Speaker 2: Okay, six foot four two and thirty pound specimen. I've seen guys be hurt. I've seen it. I've also seen him figure it out. I've seen him figure it out, and I mean, I can't wait to ask Grayson. I can't wait. But the Orioles just keep saying, eh, pitching's not that big a deal. We'll get We'll get Chicano. Pitching's not that big a deal. We won't give the extra year to Corbyn Burns, who really liked it in Baltimore. So come on, Twitter, bring it on.

00:28:59
Speaker 1: An Angels fan should be excited. I texted with some and some people in the media world that were really excited for the Angels to pick up a guy like this who's not gonna cost much. You would think he's He's never gone more than like five to seven starts in the big leagues. I mean, you know, is two seasons here before missing twenty twenty five, twenty three starts, twenty starts, well over a hondo innings. It's not like he hasn't pitched.

00:29:22
Speaker 2: The Dodgers call that a complete season for there guys.

00:29:25
Speaker 1: True, just time, four crats hats.

00:29:44
Speaker 4: What's he wearing? It's like a I think Tigers. It's like a lightish orange, probably Phillies.

00:29:50
Speaker 3: Oh I was right, Burn, Absolutely.

00:29:54
Speaker 4: You can go with that. What college team can you go with that one? Come on, let's se Come on, it's orange. Come on, baby, come on, last chance? What'd you say?

00:30:06
Speaker 2: Cles? No?

00:30:08
Speaker 4: Come on, come on, thank you not Orange Princeton.

00:30:11
Speaker 1: Come on, oh Princeton. Oh man, I didn't even think about them, I know, come on, such a Ruckers guy. I just can't get my mind off the Scarlet Knights. All right, here we are, we're back. We got a few extra minutes. Then we'll throw you to Dodger's territory, firing up with that show at three o'clock. Okay, we're looking at the non tender candidates for the deadline, which happens to be tomorrow night. Maybe we'll get some moves as the day continues during the show tomorrow and we can talk about either trades or players that get cut loose. One name that could be cut loose Jonah him So MLB trade rumors hasn't met about six million bucks, and you know his defense and offense has declined in the last couple of years. It's not big money, but it's been talked about.

00:31:09
Speaker 3: I have no idea why.

00:31:11
Speaker 2: I don't know where his decline came from. You're talking about an all star gold glover and they brought Higgy in and Kyle Goshioka ended up getting a lot more time than him, I mean, and it's really I feel like it's like the Eli Manning theory, Like Eli looks like he's like, oh, he's not even into it, and then he wins two World Series. Jonah, Him's like body language has always been the same, very calm, very controlled, and when he was swinging it from both sides of the plate, that was a guy. And there's been kind of a steep decline really the last like season and a half season three quarters for him. So six million, they feel like it's too much, but he's a big league catcher. He'll he'll latch you on somewhere.

00:31:56
Speaker 1: I'll give you a couple other names. I think it's almost a lock that the Royals won't hold on to Jonathan India just because he's probably going to make seven eight million dollars. So now we can say that trade was a win for the Reds to get yourself a starter, you know, a mid to mid range to back end starter in Brady Singer. Toy eat up innings and pitched decently in Cincinnati, India just didn't work out for the team. Was sub one hundred, was at eighty nine ops plus this year. You know, the defense and base running is not stand out there, so you just had a pretty rough year. And Kansas City is not going to keep a player at that number.

00:32:34
Speaker 3: And I see these guys, these older guys. Man, it gets harder and harder as you're getting older.

00:32:38
Speaker 1: Crazy, Yeah, how old do you think he is? Twenty twenty nine? In a couple of weeks, I'd.

00:32:45
Speaker 3: Say older guys. I mean, I guess now it's older.

00:32:47
Speaker 1: But happens fast, man, it happens fast.

00:32:51
Speaker 2: Another one. You get from Sinceni to KC two, that's a tough stadium. And India is about grinding it out. As soon as he didn't do well and the team was kind of not as good, and you know he started losing some playing time and consistent at bats.

00:33:07
Speaker 1: One more name and this place to what you guys were talking about with holding on to everybody. But Ryan Mountcastle will probably get cut loose on the Orioles. He was a point one wins above replacement player this year, eighty three ops plus two eighty six on base. I mean, I don't think they're paying him seven eight million bucks, which is his approximate number. So he'll get cut. He'll get picked up by another team for a few million bucks. And then remember the one year he had to deal with what they call it Mount Baltimore and then they addressed it a little bit. Still. Yeah, Mountcastle didn't turn into what they thought he would be.

00:33:44
Speaker 4: I remember, I have much time. Yeah, the guy there was a card show going on. The guy flipped over, he had the orioles flipped over like a one on one signed Mountcastle, and somebody told him I'd bought it off you for twenty thousand right now, and the guy said, no, so what Hopefully I'm not I'm not going down that road. But yeah, we'll see. Hey, listen, it's his for his collection. But that was when he was he was mashing right, and he was a young buck coming up.

00:34:09
Speaker 1: There was probably a Bowman chrome or something like that.

00:34:12
Speaker 4: It was a nasty looking car, meaning good it was a really good looking car.

00:34:15
Speaker 1: Damn. Hey, things change quickly. So we'll go over some of that stuff tomorrow. Good show tomorrow. By the way, for a Friday, we got Ken Rosenthal, Grayson Rodriguez just traded over to the Angels and Andrew Marshand, who will join us to talk about all of the MLB content deals that were just signed and sealed. See you then,

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