#7 Wisconsin Destroys #3 Penn State, What is Going on With Minnesota and Kansas?

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Hi volleyball fans and welcome back to Volley Talk, the podcast created for volleyball lovers

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who want to dig deep into what is going on in NCAA and international volleyball.

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I'm your host Sarah Pavin, I'm an Olympian, beach volleyball world champion, former Nebraska

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corn husker and a longtime pro both indoor and on the beach.

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And I'm Adam Schultz, former indoor player, international volleyball coach and stats guru.

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Every time we think we're going to have a straightforward week, we are hit with some

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absolutely shocking results.

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And there were a ton of surprises this week, both from upsets to straight up like domination.

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We watched a lot of one sided matches, some of which probably raised some eyebrows all

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over the place.

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So we are going to be taking a closer look at one of those matches in particular.

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But both Kansas and Minnesota went 0 and 2 this week, so we're going to do a little analysis

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on both of those teams as we head towards the end of conference play.

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Let's get started.

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This week, Utah crushed BYU 3-0.

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BYU was missing Claire Little, but that doesn't help with the end result.

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We also had Illinois upset number 20 USC in 5 and number 6 Stanford crushed 16 Georgia

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Tech in Palo Alto.

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We've talked about BYU a few times.

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We've also talked about how integral Claire Little is to their team and having her missing.

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Wow.

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The game against Utah was not even close.

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And I think that that just goes to show how important she is.

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I agree with that.

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I'm curious as to why she didn't play.

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We weren't able to find anything about that as of yet.

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But if it's something serious, we'll definitely report it on that next week.

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We will be talking about this match in depth later.

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But number 7 Wisconsin was absolutely incredible against number 3 Penn State.

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And they absolutely demolished them 3-0.

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And as we said, both Minnesota and Kansas dropped both their matches this week.

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So let's dive in and take a closer look at each one.

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Minnesota had two home matches this week.

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Earlier in the week, they lost to unranked Washington in four sets.

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And then on the weekend, they lost to number 12 Oregon three straight.

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What are you thinking when you're watching Minnesota?

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I had lots of thoughts about those two matches in particular.

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I had several thoughts after kind of diving into the match from a statistical standpoint.

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And my feel as I watched the match was that they didn't establish the middle of the court

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very well and they didn't run their middles.

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And when I looked at some of the set distribution, we had only 16% of the sets going to their

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middle hitters, which probably is a little low, especially if you're playing good blocking

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teams because you're just the middles just aren't a factor.

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Now I understand that that's not all on the center because they're also not passing well.

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Their middles were relatively efficient at 3-0-8 as a group, but they just need to run

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them more so that all of the load is not on the outside hitters.

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I think that passing is a massive issue for Minnesota.

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They're getting served off the court.

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They cannot, they're not controlling their service reception well at all.

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And I mean, you alluded to this, it's really affecting their ability to run the middle.

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The middle of the court is almost non-existent for them.

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And on top of that, they don't have a really strongly established back row attack.

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So you're just seeing balls and high balls, might I add.

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We're not running like particularly quick tempo by any means.

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It's just like loopy sets to both pins and it's really, really easy to defend.

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I felt watching Shaftmaster set that it was really easy to pick up where she was going

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to set the ball.

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When everybody in the gym knows where the ball is going, it's really easy for the blockers

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and the defense to set up and it makes life on your setter so much harder.

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And again, I'm not going to place all of that at her feet because the passing isn't great,

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but sometimes when you watch her set, it doesn't seem like she's putting in a ton of effort

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to get to the ball, to get square, to hide her decisions.

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She's just focused on trying to deliver a hittable ball, which is a good thing and it's

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something you want in your setter, but against really good teams, it's just not enough.

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I mean watching her set, it is pretty clear where she's going.

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Some other setters, you know, they get to the ball quick, they're jump setting off of

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two feet.

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They're looking the same every single time.

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I don't know if it's a timing issue.

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I don't know if it's a speed issue, whatever it is, but like it is pretty clear when she's

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going to set outside versus behind and especially when she's setting the middle, you can read

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it from a mile away.

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It's tough and the team is passing poorly and the out of system sets are not being put

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in a consistent location either from anybody on the team.

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And I will say I am like so perturbed at how the Minnesota Libero sets.

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This is me like technique police here, but if you want to deliver a consistent out of

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system set, you need to almost feel like you're sitting in a chair, get that much load in

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your legs and you are lifting completely with your butt and your quads.

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There should be minimal arm movement because when you're swinging your arms, that is when

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the ball is taking off everywhere.

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And I see the Libero for Minnesota who sets a lot of balls completely swinging her arms

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at everything.

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There is no leg being used whatsoever and it's driving me crazy.

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I mean I think there's a lot of issues with Minnesota right now, specifically in the last

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couple of weeks when we've watched them.

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I think a lot of it just stems from a lack of...

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Urgency, I would say.

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I think that's the right word.

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You watch them pass, they're not communicating seams particularly well.

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You watch them play defense, they're not following in their hitters and coming back out and resetting.

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It almost looks like everybody is doing the bare minimum to do their job and they're not

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coming together as a team.

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And if you look at the last two matches they played against Washington, they had six service

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aces and 11 errors, but Washington had 13 aces and two errors.

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So everything else was almost the same, they completely lost that part of the game.

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And then you watch them play Oregon, they were 14 blocks to six and Minnesota is supposed

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to be a good blocking team.

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Watching it, it feels like they're fighting the game in general and they can't ever get

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all of the pieces to fit and click at the same time.

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I mean if you're going to get blocked straight down, that's one thing, but this week in particular

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I saw the Minnesota hitters get blocked and those balls land in the middle third of the

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court depth wise.

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If you are not getting blocked straight down, that ball needs to come up and at the very,

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very minimum there needs to be one or two players on the ground to get it up.

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It's unacceptable, I'm sorry, for balls to be blocked and land in that middle third as

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consistently as it happened.

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I agree.

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I agree.

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And I think that that's a microcosm of everything that's going on.

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Everybody on that team needs to be a little better, 10, 15% and that will build towards

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them as a team putting a better product together.

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You mentioned that Minnesota's defensive strength is their block.

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I agree because they do not dig anything as a team.

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Do you want to score a point on Minnesota?

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Tip the ball.

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Tip the ball in the middle of the court, tip the ball down the line, tip it wherever you

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want it will land.

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They are not picking up anything defensively.

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And again, this is one of those areas where the stats are a little bit deceiving because

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they're digging on par with the teams that they're playing, but they're not getting the

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same quality transition opportunities outside of that.

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And they get respect as a blocking team because of their reputation.

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So hitters will go around, they get some digs, but they're not converting on them and they're

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not taking care of the digs in a way that gives them multiple options in transition.

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Or even a set sometimes.

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Somebody might get a hand on the ball, but if the setter is diving and punches the ball

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into the bench, that is not a good dig.

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And it probably counts as a dig on the stats, but I don't know how many times we've watched

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them recently where we're like, tip the ball and then the person tips and they score.

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It's almost a guaranteed point.

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I will say the one bright spot for me having watched them over the last couple of weeks

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is Julia Hansen.

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I think she has played well.

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I like her as a hitter.

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She's very dynamic.

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She jumps well.

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She's aggressive.

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I think she's been their best player.

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I think she's got a higher ceiling than we've already seen at this point.

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If I'm Minnesota, I'm going, okay, this is a player that we can continue to build the

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program around.

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So that for me has been the one bright spot.

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She is definitely their most consistent player right now.

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She jumps very well.

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If she jumps and contacts the ball at the height that she is capable of, I think she

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could be scoring at such a high percentage.

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Sometimes she does let the ball drop a little low.

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And I don't know if she's looking, waiting to see something, if she feels uncomfortable,

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whatever.

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But if she is fully extended, she could go over top of a lot of blocks.

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I agree.

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When she's coming in, she finds a rhythm and it's off the ground through the swing without

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any delay or any hitch.

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She scores very, very well.

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So hopefully that rhythm will continue to come for her.

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We have watched Minnesota play many times this season.

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We watched them early in Big Ten play and we've watched them a lot in the last few weeks.

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I hate to say it, but I feel like Minnesota was playing much better as a team when Alex

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Azevedo was playing as opposed to Paige Wooker.

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And since Paige Wooker has been playing, Minnesota is a completely different team.

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And I don't want to like, this is nothing against Paige Wooker, but based on my observations

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when she was injured versus now when she's playing, it's so much different.

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And I'm curious whether that decision is, she's a vet, we know what we get with her,

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we're going to give her a chance to kind of come back in and find her rhythm after the

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injury in hopes that she's going to help out in the tournament.

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But I would agree with you.

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She's not passing well.

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I think a lot of the passing problems start with her first contact and she's not scoring

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either.

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She yeah, it, she is not bringing a ton of positive touches to the floor and you know,

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hopefully in two weeks that's different.

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But if Minnesota doesn't figure out their first contact, it's going to be a long rest

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of the season for them.

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So that brings up the question that I had for you.

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What do you think Minnesota needs to do to give them a chance at doing well in the tournament?

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They need to put their best passers on the floor.

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I think they're big, they have size.

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I don't think shaft masters the most agile setter, but she's a threat in the front row

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when the passes are tight.

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She needs to be part of the offense.

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That's when you see her being the most engaged and the most excited to play and that team

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runs through her.

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If she's not a part of the offense, it just doesn't look right.

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So I would focus first touch, let everything else flow from there.

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When shaft master attacks on a good pass, I love it.

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When she does the little cutesy side set over from the 10 foot line, like no girl, you're

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6'3".

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Hit it.

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Use that height, use your hitting ability, get up there.

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Like don't do this cute stuff because it doesn't work.

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It's not efficient for you.

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Just like let's play into your strengths here.

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A few weeks ago, I said in one of my hot takes that Minnesota has no business being the number

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14 seed and I'm sorry, but I am reinforcing that statement.

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I'm standing by it.

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They have gotten worse, I think, since I said that.

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So I'm asking again, how the heck are they holding on to this ranking?

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Because we're definitely looking at Texas and Wisconsin wins here and like we are way

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past that.

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So let's hope that Minnesota can figure their passing troubles out and start to gain a little

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momentum towards the end of the Big 10 season.

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Kansas was another team that had a bit of a rough week.

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Their road trip to Arizona did not go well as they dropped a four set match to number

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11 Arizona State and they lost in five to unranked Arizona as well.

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Those two losses were their only defeats in Big 12 play and because they've now lost two

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games they have relinquished the lead of the Big 12 to Arizona State.

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So we have also watched a lot of Kansas this season.

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What is your analysis of the team right now?

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I feel like I'm going to sound like a broken record on this one, but I truly believe that

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success starts in the middle and the last time we watched or we talked about Kansas,

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we talked about how good their middles were and how much they controlled the middle of

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the court and I broke down the last two matches that they played and so in these last two

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matches they only set the middle 19% of total team attacks, which is more than Minnesota

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that we just talked about, but they on a whole run the middle generally 25% before this week.

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So I know you look at that and say, you know, five or six percent is not a ton, but when

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you look at the overall feel and establishing the middle, it makes a difference because

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the blockers are thinking I've got to be I've got to stay I've got to follow that middle.

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It makes them a fraction late outside.

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It makes life easier for the outside hitters and then on top of the decrease in setting

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the middle, both middles were incredibly ineffective in these last two matches.

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So on a banjo hit 179 in those two matches versus 415 on the season before coming into

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these two and Reese Patak hit 030 on these two matches versus 313 on the season.

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So not only did they get set less, they weren't scoring and the teams they played against

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both Arizona teams will go to the pin.

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We're going to life make life miserable for your outside hitters and they just couldn't

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get it back.

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And I will say credit to Kansas.

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They did try and run the middles early in the matches, but it just didn't work.

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It never they never connected.

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Like obviously, you know, Reese Patak started playing like partway through the season, earned

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the starting spot on a banjo has been very effective.

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We have actually only watched Kansas play when they've been playing home matches.

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And those two middles have honestly been like leading the team.

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So I don't know, like rough week for them.

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It could be any number of things because clearly they've been performing this season.

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Kansas hasn't dropped a match in Big 12 play until now.

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It was really interesting watching because on perfect passes, Cameron Turner would not

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set the middle in front.

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She set the middles on slides on perfect passes.

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But every time she was running the middle, when they were in front of her, it was only

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from off the net or from a less than perfect pass, which we saw her trying to establish

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the middle early in matches and it wasn't effective.

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They were making a lot of errors and then she was forced to go away from them.

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But my thought was when you get a perfect pass, like maybe run the middle then early

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in the game, because not only are you giving your your outside hitter some freedom as the

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match goes on, but you're helping your middles get into a rhythm by forcing the sets to them

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from off the net, especially early.

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You're kind of making life challenging for them to to get into a rhythm.

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And then it just causes this huge cascade of things kind of falling apart for them.

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Watching Turner set and I think I've watched four or five matches of them now.

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Her tendencies to me seem to be coming verbatim from a setting handbook.

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So you watch she comes off the net to the 10 foot line.

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She tries to push the middle, like you said, but she doesn't set them when they're in

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rhythm.

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And so it's like, hey, yes, you need they need to respect your block when the passes

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off the net.

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And then she's always reversing the flow.

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So she's moving forward.

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She's setting back to the right side.

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If she's moving back, she's pushing it to the left side.

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And while these are guiding principles, it seems like she plays them 100% of the time.

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And so even when you're doing the right thing in that regard, you're not playing with any

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feel, you're not paying attention to whether your hitters are in rhythm.

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It doesn't look like she feels the match.

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It looks like she's making her set selection completely based on the situation.

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I mean, I had El Nadi was pretty on fire this week.

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And so when the middles weren't scoring and when Cameron Turner was in the front without

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a right side attack, you saw her using El Nadi so much.

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And it was just it almost felt like, okay, well, the middles aren't working.

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So I need to give you every ball.

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If a player is hot, like for sure, like use them.

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I think that could have been avoided, you know, if on a perfect pass, she would just

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run a basic set in the middle and it doesn't even have to score.

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But like if your middle is making solid contact, that helps rhythm.

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It's just like a lot.

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It's a very little thing, but I think it makes a big difference as you were saying as the

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matches progress.

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So we talked about the middle numbers being down, and then you look at them as a whole.

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So as a team, they hit 220 this weekend versus 297 how they normally hit as a team, even

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with Ana Banjo hitting really, really well.

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And then you look at her numbers specifically, she got 33% of the team sets this weekend

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compared to El Nadi.

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33% of the team's swings this weekend versus a 24% distribution that they normally get.

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And we talked about Kansas's strength earlier in the podcast, and it was all about balance.

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It was about all five people getting sets, not knowing where they were going.

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And that just didn't happen this weekend.

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I wouldn't say that Kansas played poorly this week.

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Like watching the matches, there weren't any glaring issues that it was like, oh my gosh,

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like they were terrible at this.

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Like obviously the middle attacking, we noticed it, their numbers weren't as good.

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But it's they didn't play poorly as a team.

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I do however think that there are some issues that they will have to resolve if they want

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to beat the top, top teams.

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And I think number one is their setter, Cameron Turner, is a liability at the net.

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Yes.

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There's no other way to put it.

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The left sides that she was lined up against for both Arizona teams had a field day.

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Oh my gosh.

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Every time Cameron Turner was blocking, they were just going up, hitting line.

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And they had career matches.

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Jordan Wilson from Arizona had 37 kills against Kansas hitting 465.

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And guess who she was matched up with?

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For at least two rotations, I believe it was Cameron Turner.

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And you're going to see teams do that to them more and more frequently.

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As there's more video, as teams are prepared, as you play better teams who have the ability

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to run that ball out to the pin and hit down the line, it's going to happen again and again

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and again.

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And they're going to have to figure out a solution to that.

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The other thing that I believe Kansas needs to improve to play top teams or compete or

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beat top teams is I don't think they serve tough enough.

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I completely agree with that.

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If you look at their serving on the weekend, they had nine service errors to one ace versus

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Arizona State.

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Those numbers don't say everything because they also weren't putting them in a ton of

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passing trouble.

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But it's a little bit of a microcosm.

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You're missing a ton of serves.

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You're not able to put pressure on.

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You feel like you just have to get the ball in.

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That ratio of error to aces affects your mentality as a team because you're not getting the results

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that you expect to.

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I mean, we have talked about this at length, but the other piece is the production from

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the middle.

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In the matches that they lost this week, both Arizona and Arizona State had moments of brilliance

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from their middles.

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I don't think it was sustained necessarily by Arizona.

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I think their middles were very effective in set one, which is very important.

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If a middle is going to be good at any time, be good at the beginning because it keeps

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people thinking.

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But luckily, the outsides picked up the slack as the match moved on.

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And then Arizona State, Claire Jeter, Cole Heade, both of them were very good.

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And so you're seeing in these two matches, the middles just aren't keeping up with their

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opponents.

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So my opinion is if Kansas wants to go far in the postseason, they need to figure out

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a solution for when their setters up in that they need to increase the service pressure

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and get teams in trouble because across the board, they are pretty small.

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Yes, both of their outsides are like five, nine, five, 10.

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Then you've got Turner.

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The middles are big, but it's like you need to take away some options for your block.

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And they need to get consistent attacking numbers from their middles.

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Kansas does have a really tough schedule to end Big 12 play.

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So I think we will see some of these issues maybe try to be exploited or come to light

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in the next couple of weeks.

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So honestly, I like that they're planning tougher teams heading into the postseason

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because things are just going to get harder.

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I would much rather start the season easy, easy quotes and work into the difficult matches.

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So I'm like primed and ready to go for the tournament.

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So we'll see.

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We'll see if they make any adjustments, if they work on things.

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But I think this is a good opportunity for them.

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I would agree to go undefeated is never a great thing in my opinion.

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So you had a really good start to conference play.

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You lost two matches.

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You've got five matches left against some good opponents.

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You have a chance to figure out what went wrong this weekend, try and address it and

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figure out what strategy you're going to use in the tournament.

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It's in their hands.

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So we've reached our feature match in Wisconsin and Penn State.

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And to be honest, I'm not entirely sure how I feel about it.

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What do you mean?

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I wanted to see Wisconsin have a response to getting kicked by Nebraska.

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And I was curious what we were going to see from them coming out and playing another team

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that was ranked ahead of them.

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I was really looking forward to this match.

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And while I was incredibly impressed by Wisconsin, I was very disappointed in how Penn State

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played.

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And the first set was a little bit back and forth and was tight and was good.

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But Wisconsin just rolled Penn State in the second and third.

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I'm pretty sure every fan who follows Big Ten volleyball has a similar feeling to you.

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I think eyebrows are probably raised all over the place.

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I think everybody was probably excited for this match.

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And yes, was Wisconsin absolutely impressive?

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One hundred percent.

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But Penn State was equally as unimpressive in my opinion.

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First of all, I have been critical of Charlie Furbringer in certain podcast episodes that

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we've had.

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I will say she ran an excellent offense.

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It was very impressive.

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And she was great not just from a setting standpoint, but like all facets of her game were very

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good.

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So I feel like I need to start off with that because I have been critical, particularly

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of her out of system setting.

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So she did great.

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Offensively, she made tons of great plays.

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She served aggressively.

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I loved the way she utilized the offense and her different players.

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Kudos to her in a tough match after a bad loss.

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Great response.

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Wisconsin hit 465 as a team and only made three hitting errors the entire match.

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I'm sorry, as Penn State, you have to take that personally.

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There's no way a team should be able to get those numbers on you.

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I understand you might have been a little sheepish after losing in three at home to

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Nebraska.

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Completely understand.

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Also completely understand wanting to redeem yourself, prove yourself, make a point against

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an equally highly ranked team to follow that up.

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But this was a statement.

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It was, it was absolutely crazy watching this happening.

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I know this isn't true, but you watched Wisconsin play so well and watching Penn State, it didn't

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look like they prepared for the match at all.

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I fundamentally disagreed with what I saw them trying to do on the court.

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Let's talk about Penn State and then we'll dive into Wisconsin and kind of dissect the

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difference between what happened with Nebraska versus this because it was night and day.

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The thing that I saw and we talked about this as the match was going on, they just looked

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at the stats.

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I don't think they watched the Nebraska match.

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If you watch that match back, they went after the 5-6 seem to start.

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They challenged the passing left side, they made that player work and then at the end

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of sets, they went at the young inexperienced libero and she didn't pass well.

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Penn State going at her right from the beginning allowed for two things.

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One Franklin poached a whole bunch of balls.

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She was almost passing on the sideline when she was in six and the libero was in one and

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you allowed her to pass a whole bunch of balls and find a rhythm in that match, which Nebraska

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never did.

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They did not mix up their serving strategy at all.

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The passing left side was covering almost half a court by themselves because Penn State

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didn't challenge them at all.

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As you said, the reason Nebraska's game plan was so effective is because they let the young

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freshman libero sit there all set and not pass a ball.

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They were making the left sides work so hard to pass, work outside and attack, leaving

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the libero there to just hang out and guess what?

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It iced her because when crunch time came, she was in zero passing rhythm and then all

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of a sudden the pressure's on, she hasn't passed a ball all set and now you're expected

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to?

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That is why Nebraska was effective.

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Penn State just let the left sides off the hook.

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The only thing the attacking left sides had to think about was scoring.

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That is it.

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And not only scoring, Wisconsin was in system all match.

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Charlie ran a good offense, but she was allowed to run a good offense because she was walking

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in and making sets.

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The passes were perfect.

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At some point, Penn State needed to understand that their strategy was not working, that

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Wisconsin was in rhythm all match and they needed to try something else because I'm sorry,

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if Wisconsin has all three options to hit all match, you won't beat them.

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All four.

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You won't beat them.

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You won't beat them.

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Just try serving the passing left side or serve in between zone five and six.

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Just try it.

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Or maybe serve the middle short, take away that option, serve the passing left side short.

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You were serving the libero, leaving all attacking options completely free and easy for every

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single point.

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You didn't even try to take an option away, not even once.

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It was mind blowing.

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To me, that was a case of somebody looking at a stat sheet and going, all right, this

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is what we're going to do.

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The other thing for me, we've talked about it before and Jess Merzuch has had an incredible

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season so far, but we have talked about the fact that Penn State has one go-to hitter

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and they do not run a balanced offense.

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It has worked for them up till now.

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She has been outstanding.

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This however, definitely plays into Wisconsin's strength, which is their blocking.

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When you have one attacker that you set over 50% of your balls, it plays into their strength

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and you didn't even try to change anything.

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The crazy thing to me too is your second best scorer, Taylor Trammell, you were running

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her on a 31 right into Anna Smerec and Carter Booth's block.

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You didn't even try to run her on a quick behind.

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You didn't keep her right in with the setter.

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You didn't run her on anything.

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Trammell is incredibly effective at running that 31.

462
00:29:36,980 --> 00:29:40,620
It is her bread and butter attack, but guess what?

463
00:29:40,620 --> 00:29:45,900
You need to prepare for the eventuality that the other team knows that and that they are

464
00:29:45,900 --> 00:29:46,900
going to shut it down.

465
00:29:46,900 --> 00:29:50,740
And let me tell you, they shut it down and she just kept running the same thing.

466
00:29:50,740 --> 00:29:51,740
Move her around.

467
00:29:51,740 --> 00:29:56,860
It was absolutely wild to me that Penn State just kept trying to run the same thing, the

468
00:29:56,860 --> 00:30:02,620
same routes over and over and over again without changing anything.

469
00:30:02,620 --> 00:30:07,700
You essentially allowed them to put their two best blockers right in front of both of

470
00:30:07,700 --> 00:30:10,060
your best hitters and they didn't even have to move.

471
00:30:10,060 --> 00:30:11,180
There was no spread.

472
00:30:11,180 --> 00:30:15,900
There was no, we can literally stand here and take care of both of your best hitters.

473
00:30:15,900 --> 00:30:18,980
It was an awful offensive strategy.

474
00:30:18,980 --> 00:30:25,640
Let's run both of our top attackers right into your top two blockers and then you can

475
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,340
take care of both of them at once and you don't even have to worry about it.

476
00:30:29,340 --> 00:30:34,000
And I mean, there's something to be said for trusting that your best players will get the

477
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:38,060
job done, but you're running into a great team.

478
00:30:38,060 --> 00:30:40,360
Both of those players are phenomenal blockers.

479
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:46,820
You need to have a secondary strategy as a coaching staff if things go poorly and you

480
00:30:46,820 --> 00:30:49,540
need to be prepared to make an adjustment and they were not.

481
00:30:49,540 --> 00:30:51,540
Well, that's what I was just going to say.

482
00:30:51,540 --> 00:30:56,300
Volleyball is a game of adjustments and it's great to go into a match with a plan, but

483
00:30:56,300 --> 00:31:01,220
you have to have a feel for how the game is progressing and you have to have a good understanding

484
00:31:01,220 --> 00:31:05,460
of what the other team is doing to you and make some moves on the fly.

485
00:31:05,460 --> 00:31:07,220
And Penn State did not do that.

486
00:31:07,220 --> 00:31:12,060
It was insanity to just see them trying the same thing over and over again.

487
00:31:12,060 --> 00:31:15,940
Finally in the third set, they had to move Jess Murzik away.

488
00:31:15,940 --> 00:31:21,220
They completely flipped their rotation to get Jess Murzik lined up with Charlie Furbringer.

489
00:31:21,220 --> 00:31:30,020
I'm sorry, but as a go to hitter, if you have to rotate me away from a block, that is mortifying.

490
00:31:30,020 --> 00:31:31,340
That is mortifying.

491
00:31:31,340 --> 00:31:35,940
Jess Murzik could not find a way to score.

492
00:31:35,940 --> 00:31:38,740
We have seen her hit high and deep.

493
00:31:38,740 --> 00:31:42,620
We have seen she's not a player that goes up and hits crazy angles.

494
00:31:42,620 --> 00:31:50,060
We've said that in previous podcast episodes, but her strength comes from her ability to

495
00:31:50,060 --> 00:31:52,020
reach high, swing high and deep.

496
00:31:52,020 --> 00:31:57,900
I'm telling you, I think she hit straight into the meat of the block every time.

497
00:31:57,900 --> 00:31:58,900
Straight.

498
00:31:58,900 --> 00:32:00,900
Wasn't looking for hands, wasn't hitting high.

499
00:32:00,900 --> 00:32:05,300
It was hitting Anna Smreks left hand and Carter Booth's right hand right where it met.

500
00:32:05,300 --> 00:32:07,660
Girl, you need to find a way to score here.

501
00:32:07,660 --> 00:32:12,460
Izzy Stark should have moved that set about a foot off the net for her from her normal

502
00:32:12,460 --> 00:32:13,460
set.

503
00:32:13,460 --> 00:32:17,860
Normally you can go up and swing for hands when the ball's in that location if the blockers

504
00:32:17,860 --> 00:32:21,900
aren't 6'9 and 6'7 and very good blockers.

505
00:32:21,900 --> 00:32:25,260
Move the ball off from your normal set so you can go up.

506
00:32:25,260 --> 00:32:28,460
You'll get the same visual of the block hands in front of you and you'll have a little bit

507
00:32:28,460 --> 00:32:29,900
more space to work with.

508
00:32:29,900 --> 00:32:33,220
Again, to me there were no adjustments.

509
00:32:33,220 --> 00:32:36,460
They just kept trying to do the same thing without changing anything.

510
00:32:36,460 --> 00:32:39,980
At the beginning of the second set, Wisconsin just started running away with it.

511
00:32:39,980 --> 00:32:44,020
I think at one point it was like 15-2 or something like that.

512
00:32:44,020 --> 00:32:50,920
The solution, because Jess Merzuch was having just a really tough time, the solution was

513
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:56,340
to put Merzuch on the right side and then to make Izzy Stark play left side.

514
00:32:56,340 --> 00:32:57,800
Well, guess what?

515
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,020
In transition, guess who got the ball?

516
00:33:00,020 --> 00:33:01,020
Anna Smreks.

517
00:33:01,020 --> 00:33:04,720
We're talking Izzy Stark, the setter blocking.

518
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:11,740
It was just kind of mind boggling watching the panic ensue.

519
00:33:11,740 --> 00:33:17,420
It felt panicked, the coaching staff had no idea how to get out of trouble.

520
00:33:17,420 --> 00:33:21,700
Top that off, they had zero blocks as a team.

521
00:33:21,700 --> 00:33:23,380
Nothing went well for them.

522
00:33:23,380 --> 00:33:31,340
I understand you have matches like this where nothing goes right, but it can't be this match.

523
00:33:31,340 --> 00:33:36,780
You can't play somebody who you might play to get into the quarter or the semi-finals

524
00:33:36,780 --> 00:33:39,940
of the tournament and put that performance on the floor.

525
00:33:39,940 --> 00:33:45,940
When you look at your schedule, you circle three or four matches in the season and go,

526
00:33:45,940 --> 00:33:48,420
we need to peak for this match.

527
00:33:48,420 --> 00:33:50,060
That should have been one of them.

528
00:33:50,060 --> 00:33:52,140
I understand the schedule is heavy.

529
00:33:52,140 --> 00:33:57,980
I understand you're playing a lot of matches, but there are certain teams that you need

530
00:33:57,980 --> 00:34:02,240
to be preparing for the entire season.

531
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:06,660
If you're in the Big Ten, you're watching every single one of Nebraska.

532
00:34:06,660 --> 00:34:13,700
If you're in the top half, let's say, if you're competing for that Big Ten championship,

533
00:34:13,700 --> 00:34:15,660
you are watching Nebraska play every match.

534
00:34:15,660 --> 00:34:17,740
You're watching Wisconsin play every match.

535
00:34:17,740 --> 00:34:19,660
You're watching Penn State play every match.

536
00:34:19,660 --> 00:34:24,540
It's not just, oh, we played yesterday, let's try to throw something together.

537
00:34:24,540 --> 00:34:28,900
I'm not saying that this is what happened, but that's what it looked like happened.

538
00:34:28,900 --> 00:34:29,900
Yeah.

539
00:34:29,900 --> 00:34:35,660
Clearly, their staff prepared for the match, but whatever you did was not effective.

540
00:34:35,660 --> 00:34:38,260
Okay, moving on to Wisconsin.

541
00:34:38,260 --> 00:34:41,620
Completely different team than we saw last weekend against Nebraska.

542
00:34:41,620 --> 00:34:44,900
What do you think some of the big differences were?

543
00:34:44,900 --> 00:34:46,340
I think it was passing.

544
00:34:46,340 --> 00:34:54,020
You allowed Charlie Furbringer to run an offense, and you weren't putting her under duress.

545
00:34:54,020 --> 00:34:55,060
They controlled the ball.

546
00:34:55,060 --> 00:34:57,260
They controlled the first pass.

547
00:34:57,260 --> 00:35:02,540
Let me tell you, when Wisconsin has three options as a threat, they're very hard to

548
00:35:02,540 --> 00:35:03,540
beat.

549
00:35:03,540 --> 00:35:10,220
And my big takeaway was that they ran the middle, but again, that all stems from the

550
00:35:10,220 --> 00:35:11,220
pass.

551
00:35:11,220 --> 00:35:14,940
It was very challenging for Charlie Furbringer to run the middle against Nebraska because

552
00:35:14,940 --> 00:35:20,220
the passing was just so bad, but they were able to run the middle, and she was able to

553
00:35:20,220 --> 00:35:22,340
get into a rhythm running them.

554
00:35:22,340 --> 00:35:27,420
So when the pass maybe wasn't perfect, she was still forcing them because she had developed

555
00:35:27,420 --> 00:35:29,260
that rhythm early in the match.

556
00:35:29,260 --> 00:35:34,340
See, it's actually interesting that you say that because that's how it felt watching the

557
00:35:34,340 --> 00:35:39,340
match, but they still only ran the middle 15% of the time.

558
00:35:39,340 --> 00:35:41,380
And so this is the thing for us.

559
00:35:41,380 --> 00:35:43,920
How many sets did the middles get in this match though?

560
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:49,140
Because in the match against Nebraska, the whole middle got 13 balls.

561
00:35:49,140 --> 00:35:51,060
So they got 15.

562
00:35:51,060 --> 00:35:52,060
What?

563
00:35:52,060 --> 00:35:53,060
Yeah.

564
00:35:53,060 --> 00:35:54,100
But this is...

565
00:35:54,100 --> 00:35:55,820
But they were an option.

566
00:35:55,820 --> 00:35:58,000
And that's the difference to me, right?

567
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:02,760
And let me clarify that 14 balls does not include the rotations where Anna Smirak hits

568
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:03,900
out of the middle.

569
00:36:03,900 --> 00:36:08,740
So Crawford and Booth got that number of sets in those three sets.

570
00:36:08,740 --> 00:36:13,820
However, to your point, both of those middles can attack, and when they are a close option,

571
00:36:13,820 --> 00:36:16,860
you have to honor them as a blocker.

572
00:36:16,860 --> 00:36:20,760
And so I personally think they need to run the middle a little bit more, especially against

573
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:25,940
good teams, but the fact that they're a threat opens everything else up.

574
00:36:25,940 --> 00:36:29,400
We mentioned Wisconsin's strength as they're blocking.

575
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:33,940
They got 11 blocks in three sets.

576
00:36:33,940 --> 00:36:37,100
Uncoverable blocks too, might I add.

577
00:36:37,100 --> 00:36:39,900
Those things were hitting the ground before the hitters were.

578
00:36:39,900 --> 00:36:46,380
They were locked in and Penn State made it easy for them to get those blocks.

579
00:36:46,380 --> 00:36:50,380
Smirak and Booth were phenomenal at the net.

580
00:36:50,380 --> 00:36:51,460
Nothing got past them.

581
00:36:51,460 --> 00:36:56,940
And when Charlie was digging as well as she is, Smirak could leave that line for the attacker,

582
00:36:56,940 --> 00:37:00,100
cover more of the cross court, and Charlie was making digs.

583
00:37:00,100 --> 00:37:04,460
They executed their game plan flawlessly against Penn State.

584
00:37:04,460 --> 00:37:09,540
They're going to need to continue to do that and continue to put service pressure on, because

585
00:37:09,540 --> 00:37:13,740
if they can get a solid block up on outside hitters against other teams, life is miserable

586
00:37:13,740 --> 00:37:14,740
for those hitters.

587
00:37:14,740 --> 00:37:18,780
I will say for Wisconsin, this was a really important match for them.

588
00:37:18,780 --> 00:37:26,820
How they responded as a team after what Nebraska put them through at home was important.

589
00:37:26,820 --> 00:37:32,660
They needed to have a response in this game and to be able to do it against another top

590
00:37:32,660 --> 00:37:38,940
ranked opponent in the Big Ten, this is a confidence win for them as a team.

591
00:37:38,940 --> 00:37:41,180
They executed at a high level.

592
00:37:41,180 --> 00:37:44,680
They attacked, they blocked, they played well.

593
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,100
They feel really good right now.

594
00:37:47,100 --> 00:37:52,580
And I'm very curious to see what the game in Lincoln looks like now.

595
00:37:52,580 --> 00:37:54,660
I was critical of Lola Schumacher last week.

596
00:37:54,660 --> 00:37:56,180
I did not think she played well.

597
00:37:56,180 --> 00:38:03,060
I think her passing trouble down the stretch was a big reason why Wisconsin gave up runs

598
00:38:03,060 --> 00:38:06,180
of points at the end of sets against Nebraska.

599
00:38:06,180 --> 00:38:10,160
But I will say she was much improved this week.

600
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,060
Was it because she was getting served so much more?

601
00:38:13,060 --> 00:38:14,620
She was able to get into a rhythm?

602
00:38:14,620 --> 00:38:16,860
Is it because she knew the ball was coming to her?

603
00:38:16,860 --> 00:38:18,460
Like I don't know what it was.

604
00:38:18,460 --> 00:38:22,860
She did take care of business from a serve receive perspective and was much better than

605
00:38:22,860 --> 00:38:24,700
she was against Nebraska.

606
00:38:24,700 --> 00:38:27,940
And I think this is going to be one of the keys for Wisconsin this year.

607
00:38:27,940 --> 00:38:35,700
You've got two freshmen in important positions and your supporting cast is experienced and

608
00:38:35,700 --> 00:38:41,140
they need to be able to put those two in a position to be successful with as little stress

609
00:38:41,140 --> 00:38:42,240
as possible.

610
00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:44,040
They need to pass well for Charlie.

611
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,780
They need to help Schumacher in the rotation.

612
00:38:46,780 --> 00:38:49,860
Don't give her too much to start because teams are going to come and pick on them.

613
00:38:49,860 --> 00:38:52,940
I mean, I'm assuming Nebraska will use a similar game plan.

614
00:38:52,940 --> 00:38:53,940
I'm curious.

615
00:38:53,940 --> 00:38:55,900
I mean, you said you're curious to see what happens now.

616
00:38:55,900 --> 00:39:01,260
I don't know if it'll be a different story because I can't see Nebraska letting the left

617
00:39:01,260 --> 00:39:03,540
sides off the hook from a passing perspective.

618
00:39:03,540 --> 00:39:05,120
Give them complete credit.

619
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:06,220
Big turnaround.

620
00:39:06,220 --> 00:39:11,460
They cleaned up some issues that we had discussed in the Nebraska match.

621
00:39:11,460 --> 00:39:18,340
Honestly, I think Penn State strategy or lack thereof definitely helped them fix some of

622
00:39:18,340 --> 00:39:20,420
the issues we saw against Nebraska.

623
00:39:20,420 --> 00:39:22,020
But it'll be interesting to see.

624
00:39:22,020 --> 00:39:24,260
Well it's time for my favorite part of the show.

625
00:39:24,260 --> 00:39:25,460
Game time.

626
00:39:25,460 --> 00:39:30,060
And we are going to play verify or veto today.

627
00:39:30,060 --> 00:39:31,060
Are you ready?

628
00:39:31,060 --> 00:39:32,220
I got five questions for you.

629
00:39:32,220 --> 00:39:36,700
You will either verify the statement or veto the statement and give me the reasons for

630
00:39:36,700 --> 00:39:37,700
your opinion.

631
00:39:37,700 --> 00:39:38,700
OK.

632
00:39:38,700 --> 00:39:44,620
Let's get on. Kansas goes less than 500 in their last five matches and they have remaining

633
00:39:44,620 --> 00:39:54,900
on the schedule TCU 18, Baylor 17, K-State unranked, BYU at 21, and Iowa State unranked.

634
00:39:54,900 --> 00:39:56,700
Oh man.

635
00:39:56,700 --> 00:39:58,420
Just quick thinking.

636
00:39:58,420 --> 00:40:09,300
TCU, Baylor, and BYU all have super powered left sides in Melanie Parra, Elise McGee,

637
00:40:09,300 --> 00:40:10,780
and Claire Little.

638
00:40:10,780 --> 00:40:16,420
The fate of Kansas will depend on how those teams decide to line up those hitters.

639
00:40:16,420 --> 00:40:22,180
I think if they line them up with Cameron Turner it will not go well for Kansas.

640
00:40:22,180 --> 00:40:29,180
But my thought is if I'm those coaches I believe that each of those three hitters can score

641
00:40:29,180 --> 00:40:35,580
no matter who is up there and so that they will probably put their lower producing left

642
00:40:35,580 --> 00:40:43,140
side up against the setter which definitely favors Kansas or plays into their favor.

643
00:40:43,140 --> 00:40:45,020
Will they lose all three of those?

644
00:40:45,020 --> 00:40:46,700
I think they'll beat Iowa State.

645
00:40:46,700 --> 00:40:48,460
I think they'll beat K-State.

646
00:40:48,460 --> 00:40:49,460
No.

647
00:40:49,460 --> 00:40:51,140
I think they'll win at least one of those three.

648
00:40:51,140 --> 00:40:52,540
I'm going to say Vito.

649
00:40:52,540 --> 00:40:53,540
I would agree.

650
00:40:53,540 --> 00:40:57,260
I think they're going to go one and three in those matches but they'll put them over.

651
00:40:57,260 --> 00:40:58,260
One out of three?

652
00:40:58,260 --> 00:40:59,260
Yeah.

653
00:40:59,260 --> 00:41:00,260
Okay.

654
00:41:00,260 --> 00:41:01,260
Number two.

655
00:41:01,260 --> 00:41:04,820
Fourth place in the Big Ten looks like it's going to come down to Purdue or Oregon.

656
00:41:04,820 --> 00:41:07,980
They play one last time before the tournament.

657
00:41:07,980 --> 00:41:12,100
Oregon finishes ahead of Purdue in the standings.

658
00:41:12,100 --> 00:41:13,100
Oh man.

659
00:41:13,100 --> 00:41:14,100
Okay.

660
00:41:14,100 --> 00:41:19,420
So watching Oregon they have one very strong middle.

661
00:41:19,420 --> 00:41:20,420
She's big.

662
00:41:20,420 --> 00:41:21,420
She's going very fast really well.

663
00:41:21,420 --> 00:41:22,860
She was going very effectively.

664
00:41:22,860 --> 00:41:27,700
They also have Mimi Collier as their go to left side.

665
00:41:27,700 --> 00:41:32,420
When I think about Purdue both of their middles are strong blockers.

666
00:41:32,420 --> 00:41:39,740
Their left sides in Chacoin and Hudson are very good offensively.

667
00:41:39,740 --> 00:41:43,820
I mean I think the standings are probably going to come down to that match as you kind

668
00:41:43,820 --> 00:41:45,220
of alluded to.

669
00:41:45,220 --> 00:41:47,580
I think Purdue is going to come out on top.

670
00:41:47,580 --> 00:41:49,500
I'm going to Vito that one as well.

671
00:41:49,500 --> 00:41:50,500
Okay.

672
00:41:50,500 --> 00:41:51,500
Number three.

673
00:41:51,500 --> 00:41:53,540
Wisconsin's loss to Nebraska was an anomaly.

674
00:41:53,540 --> 00:41:57,180
They are a legitimate contender for the national championship.

675
00:41:57,180 --> 00:41:58,700
Whoa.

676
00:41:58,700 --> 00:42:02,060
Maybe this can be my hot take for the week too.

677
00:42:02,060 --> 00:42:03,780
So this is my hot take.

678
00:42:03,780 --> 00:42:08,540
I actually think that the Penn State match is an anomaly for Wisconsin.

679
00:42:08,540 --> 00:42:14,060
I have watched Wisconsin play many matches this season and I have not seen them look

680
00:42:14,060 --> 00:42:17,940
like that at all until the Penn State match.

681
00:42:17,940 --> 00:42:23,220
Maybe the Nebraska match was like lit a fire that they needed and like they've completely

682
00:42:23,220 --> 00:42:24,940
changed I don't know.

683
00:42:24,940 --> 00:42:29,700
But based on the evidence that I have and the observations I have made of that team

684
00:42:29,700 --> 00:42:32,260
all season and I said it a few weeks ago.

685
00:42:32,260 --> 00:42:35,740
This Wisconsin team is not the team that we have seen in recent years.

686
00:42:35,740 --> 00:42:38,500
They just are not that dominant.

687
00:42:38,500 --> 00:42:42,940
The other thing to think about too is the NCAA is going to set it up to make sure that

688
00:42:42,940 --> 00:42:46,840
not more than two teams from any given conference get to go to the final four.

689
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,720
They want diversity among the conferences.

690
00:42:49,720 --> 00:42:53,620
Given how I'm assuming the tournament is going to be set up they're going to have to go through

691
00:42:53,620 --> 00:42:57,640
either Nebraska or Penn State to make the final four.

692
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,920
I think it's going to come down to how that all plays out.

693
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:05,600
I don't think they will defeat Nebraska to go to the final four.

694
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:10,760
I think if it comes down to Penn State because of Penn State's reliance on Jess Merzik if

695
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:15,500
they have to go through Penn State I think they have a chance of making the final four.

696
00:43:15,500 --> 00:43:21,200
But there are too many variables that have to go their way to even make it there and

697
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,900
then to win once you're there I don't think they're going to make it.

698
00:43:24,900 --> 00:43:25,900
Veto.

699
00:43:25,900 --> 00:43:27,580
I need to come up with some other questions.

700
00:43:27,580 --> 00:43:28,820
You've been vetoing them all.

701
00:43:28,820 --> 00:43:32,740
But I verified like every single one when we started this game like way back.

702
00:43:32,740 --> 00:43:33,740
True.

703
00:43:33,740 --> 00:43:35,300
At least you're consistent.

704
00:43:35,300 --> 00:43:36,300
Number four.

705
00:43:36,300 --> 00:43:39,740
The race for the number one spot in the ACC is heating up and as we look to the end of

706
00:43:39,740 --> 00:43:46,020
November Pitt is going to have a rematch with Louisville in Louisville on November 27th.

707
00:43:46,020 --> 00:43:51,120
Pitt remains the number one team in the ACC going into the tournament.

708
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:57,340
So Louisville and Pitt have lost one match each in ACC play?

709
00:43:57,340 --> 00:43:58,340
Correct.

710
00:43:58,340 --> 00:44:00,780
Right now both teams are 13 and 1.

711
00:44:00,780 --> 00:44:02,300
Oh dang.

712
00:44:02,300 --> 00:44:05,460
My assumption is that's the match for first place in the ACC.

713
00:44:05,460 --> 00:44:10,420
I think Pitt is a stronger team than Louisville but there is something to be said about playing

714
00:44:10,420 --> 00:44:11,420
at home.

715
00:44:11,420 --> 00:44:14,540
There's clearly animosity between those two teams.

716
00:44:14,540 --> 00:44:17,420
Oh dang this is a good question.

717
00:44:17,420 --> 00:44:18,420
No.

718
00:44:18,420 --> 00:44:22,980
I have made the statement here before that I think that Pitt is going to win the national

719
00:44:22,980 --> 00:44:25,420
championship so I need to stick by that.

720
00:44:25,420 --> 00:44:27,620
I'm going to say verify.

721
00:44:27,620 --> 00:44:29,300
Last question of the game.

722
00:44:29,300 --> 00:44:30,300
Number five.

723
00:44:30,300 --> 00:44:35,860
Jess Merzik's performance versus Wisconsin takes her out of the running for player of

724
00:44:35,860 --> 00:44:36,860
the year.

725
00:44:36,860 --> 00:44:39,780
Well first of all I don't think she'll win player of the year unless they make the final

726
00:44:39,780 --> 00:44:44,540
four and even then it depends on who else makes the final four too.

727
00:44:44,540 --> 00:44:47,660
Do I think it will come down to that one match?

728
00:44:47,660 --> 00:44:48,660
No.

729
00:44:48,660 --> 00:44:49,660
Veto.

730
00:44:49,660 --> 00:44:53,280
You can't deny the fact that she's had an outstanding season.

731
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:58,660
She was terrible against Wisconsin don't get me wrong but I don't think that that will

732
00:44:58,660 --> 00:45:02,460
derail her hopes of winning player of the year.

733
00:45:02,460 --> 00:45:06,260
I think if she doesn't make it to the final four that will derail it.

734
00:45:06,260 --> 00:45:07,260
Fair enough.

735
00:45:07,260 --> 00:45:11,300
Well that's all the questions I had for Verifier Veto for today.

736
00:45:11,300 --> 00:45:17,620
I would love to hear other people's perspective on those questions and what the general consensus

737
00:45:17,620 --> 00:45:19,060
is.

738
00:45:19,060 --> 00:45:26,460
Alright you guys kind of heard my hot take in the Verifier Veto segment but Adam has

739
00:45:26,460 --> 00:45:28,180
a hot take this week.

740
00:45:28,180 --> 00:45:35,700
I saw several middle on middle solo attack block situations this week.

741
00:45:35,700 --> 00:45:42,940
I am seeing middle blockers jump straight up when they're one on one in the middle.

742
00:45:42,940 --> 00:45:46,460
My hot take is you're doing nothing.

743
00:45:46,460 --> 00:45:49,300
No middles hit straight to six.

744
00:45:49,300 --> 00:45:50,960
They assume that somebody's going to be there.

745
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,600
They see your body.

746
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:58,460
Middles if you're one on one you need to pick away and you need to take some space away.

747
00:45:58,460 --> 00:46:03,740
It sets up your defense so that you know which way you can shift and who's responsible for

748
00:46:03,740 --> 00:46:04,740
what.

749
00:46:04,740 --> 00:46:09,540
Jumping straight up in the air on a one on one in the middle specifically on a 51 is

750
00:46:09,540 --> 00:46:10,540
more or less useless.

751
00:46:10,540 --> 00:46:14,100
I can 100% get behind that hot take.

752
00:46:14,100 --> 00:46:17,020
You just watch and their arms go in the air and the middle hits the five.

753
00:46:17,020 --> 00:46:21,660
If you want to funnel them to the libero that's fine but drop a hand one way give them a different

754
00:46:21,660 --> 00:46:26,380
look they can see your body move your hands do something other than just take that space

755
00:46:26,380 --> 00:46:27,380
away.

756
00:46:27,380 --> 00:46:32,940
Middles blocking in the middle should not look like a middle blocking the outside.

757
00:46:32,940 --> 00:46:38,140
Outside blockers if you're a pin blocker you need to go over straight because your middle

758
00:46:38,140 --> 00:46:39,380
is closing to you.

759
00:46:39,380 --> 00:46:44,160
If you're a middle closing to the outside you're just creating a wall.

760
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:45,380
Your defense knows where to go.

761
00:46:45,380 --> 00:46:50,820
If you are a middle playing a one on one against another middle attacker pick a side.

762
00:46:50,820 --> 00:46:54,740
Thank you for saying that it has been driving me crazy as well.

763
00:46:54,740 --> 00:46:57,280
Is it a hot take or is it just facts?

764
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:02,700
I would like to argue that that is not a hot take and everybody needs to take note.

765
00:47:02,700 --> 00:47:07,460
Every time you see a middle pick a side they either get a stuff block or the defense makes

766
00:47:07,460 --> 00:47:11,140
a dig because they actually know what their responsibilities are.

767
00:47:11,140 --> 00:47:12,140
Thank you.

768
00:47:12,140 --> 00:47:18,700
All right coming up this week we've got a lot of matches that we are excited about.

769
00:47:18,700 --> 00:47:26,620
So Kansas as Adam mentioned earlier is hosting TCU and Baylor this week on Wednesday and

770
00:47:26,620 --> 00:47:28,760
Saturday respectively.

771
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:34,300
We have USC taking on Wisconsin on Thursday and Oregon on Sunday.

772
00:47:34,300 --> 00:47:39,740
Florida State has got the heavy ACC schedule this week and they are traveling playing Pitt

773
00:47:39,740 --> 00:47:42,780
on Friday and SMU on Sunday.

774
00:47:42,780 --> 00:47:48,240
And finally we have Nebraska and Minnesota facing off in Lincoln on Thursday.

775
00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:52,020
This will be a very interesting test for Minnesota given the week they've just had.

776
00:47:52,020 --> 00:47:55,420
You know what I didn't even want to put this on the list I'm not going to lie because

777
00:47:55,420 --> 00:47:58,820
I feel like Minnesota is really going to fall in the ranking and I don't think it's going

778
00:47:58,820 --> 00:48:02,080
to be an outstanding match but like why not?

779
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,100
You know why not put it down?

780
00:48:04,100 --> 00:48:06,380
That concludes this week's episode of Volley Talk.

781
00:48:06,380 --> 00:48:10,460
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782
00:48:10,460 --> 00:48:11,580
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783
00:48:11,580 --> 00:48:15,820
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784
00:48:15,820 --> 00:48:18,420
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785
00:48:18,420 --> 00:48:23,300
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786
00:48:23,300 --> 00:48:27,260
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787
00:48:27,260 --> 00:48:32,020
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788
00:48:32,020 --> 00:48:47,140
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