Josh Pate Picks Florida To Upset Texas + Will Compton & Taylor Lewan Split On Vanderbilt vs. Alabama

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Speaker 3: Yeah that was it. That was that was take the lead. But see Bama still scored a touchdown on their drive. Georgia drops the TV doesn't score. That would have been twenty eight, twenty four. They take the lead for I think the first time in the game in the fourth quarter total total games. They drop it at that point, You're all you needed to have happened was a team that has not lost at home since pre COVID to win. Yeah, that's a tough time.

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Speaker 1: But again, the cash out in the fourth quarter was like Georgia had to punt, they punted, Bama's got the ball, and it's like, all right, they might have just a little bit of time left with no timeouts if they stopped Bama here. So I'm thinking I couldn't believe that they would giving me the cash out. I should have probably took it. Looking back on the hindsight, it's twenty twenty always, But look, Bama won and we have a great game now with Vandy going out to got a great game Wednesday game. Is that exciting anymore? Yeah? That exciting, Josh. There was a conversation earlier this week that came up that would love your expertise. Maman Taylor proposed had it felt like he had nervous this was coming. There was a debate. He's like, hey, he's talking about Nebraska. Like, let's say, what was it if Nebraska wins out and goes eleven and one. But Penn State, now that they lost to Oregon, say Penn State lose to a state and they lose another game. USC lost to Illinois. So what if USC is just not very good, just based purely on strength of schedule? It waters all the way down to its lowest level. Nebraska wins out goes eleven and one. No, they don't go to the Big Ten Championship because Oregon and Ohio State are undefeated. They're playing in the Big Ten Championship. So Nebraska would be sitting at eleven and one not playing in the championship game. In his mind, they wouldn't get in the college who will play? I said it. There's a conversation, he says, there's an actual argument that Nebraska could potentially.

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Speaker 2: Not be in the conte Now do you want so that's how the conversation. Do you want to know how it ended? Or do you want to give your opinion first on that?

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Speaker 3: Can I just end it?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 3: Good, So go ahead, I want.

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Speaker 1: To know, right, that's ultimately what happened. Like it just ended.

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Speaker 3: There was a precedent set last year Indiana did a version of this. Yeah, Indiana was clearly in the playoff and they played a softer net schedule. Then what Nebraska will have played in this scenario, and then also, am I assuming it's Ohio's eight Oregon Big Ten title game? Am I assuming we got it?

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Speaker 2: If Michigan wins out, if Michigan's ten and one going into a house that you have to assume Michigan beats a house state.

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Speaker 3: Ah, so there's an angle here. Okay, Well that's actually better for Nebraska because they're head to head loss. They're only one is against now half of the Big Ten Championship Game participants, So your fortune actually works against your prediction because the better in Michigan does, the better in Nebraska's lost looks. So there's no world where they get left out at eleven and one either way, I want to stay that very clear.

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Speaker 1: Any team, any team in the power.

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Speaker 3: In the power too, probably in the power for definitely in the power too, but it doubly especially if Michigan makes the Big Ten title game, and that's and it was a close loss, at least on the scoreboard it was a close loss. I would there was no way. There's no way to leave them out.

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Speaker 1: This is also coming from a guy that went two and three last week.

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Speaker 3: How did you do last week? Though?

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Speaker 1: Is that important? I did? Questions well?

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Speaker 2: I asked the questions, the powers in the question.

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Speaker 3: This is how we ended up with James Franklin coaching Texas Tech. I think at the end of last week's show, because you stuck to asking the questions, and then I think we triggered a Penn State loss.

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Speaker 1: I think we did.

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Speaker 2: I think the conversation that took place at the end of last week's show was if James Franklin doesn't win this game and they're destined to always be tand too, does James Franklin leave their job?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? And then clearly you got under landing scan. Clearly you affected the outcome of the game.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you Will did. Will was just a messenger and right, yeah, you burned a source.

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Speaker 3: You burned a source. Yeah. Yeah, for the betterment of Dan Lanning. Yeah. SCO ducks Wow, SCO ducks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. The Penn State James Franklin. It uh, it makes me laugh too, because it's like, all right, do you have Are you saying there should be no patience with James Franklin.

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Speaker 2: No, I think the conversation is now going to be started of James Franklin. And I don't think it's like maybe James Franklin knows. He said a ceiling at Penn State as well. Maybe there's a place down south that he can maybe find better talent and get over that.

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Speaker 3: Trowing at thirty a A. You're talking about just straight retirement. Are you talking about a program?

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Speaker 1: About program?

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Speaker 3: Oh? A program?

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Speaker 2: Program eight? Nashville's beach, get down there. I'm just saying, how do we know Penn State won't just win?

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Speaker 1: Out here? They are? I believe there's still yes, But if we're talking just about Penn State, they are still what They're still up there in the odds with Fandiel to win the national title?

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Speaker 3: Still fifth? Yeah, wow, still got to go to Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: Right Listen, I'm not a James fakel heter. I'm a big fan of Yeah, you just asked the questions question. Yeah, I'm gonna ask you a question, and maybe a conversation has gotten started.

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Speaker 1: Maybe conversation will start.

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Speaker 2: Because you can't be in Oregon at home, favored, how are you gonna go to Columbus in a couple of weeks and win that?

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Speaker 3: And if you can't go to Columbus and win, you're just ten and two again.

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Speaker 2: You're just tennan with your best team nine to three because Nebraska comes.

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Speaker 1: Nebraska comes to town as well.

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Speaker 3: If your two losses already before you go to Ohio State, imagine that conversation.

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Speaker 1: You know who threws the ball more than anybody in college football? Nebraska?

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Speaker 2: You know his quarterback has what the highest percentage completion percentage in college football?

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Speaker 3: Talk to the Nebraska sucks for Michigan State?

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Speaker 1: You know state too. You know who had the greatest bye week practices that Coach Rule and coach Holgerson have ever seen in their life? Nebraska, Temple.

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Speaker 2: Panthers, who have a top ten pick a lot of bye weeks.

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Speaker 1: We've a lot of.

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Speaker 3: What would you say has been the second toughest by week practice session of the matt Rule tenure any any stop? Like they had some tough weeks at Temple, they have some tough weeks at Baylor. What do you think comes the closest? Given that this past week that was the toughest bye week? But what would be second?

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Speaker 1: With coach rule? With what I know? I only know coach rule at Nebraska. I know the one where they got was it did we play Illinois on Friday night after we got curbs by Michigan? I don't follow. Was that a couple of a couple of years ago. I believe there's a lot. There's a lot that happened. They talked about it was a bloodbath. I was just they were in pads on Sunday, but it sounds like this one was a very physical on Tuesday and Wednesday was a very physical week. Last week. It is hell when you when you lose going into a bye week. It just depends on what kind of mood the coaches is in.

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Speaker 2: And also not to put salt on the way you lose to you lost the toughness battle, right, and so it's like, yeah, if you want to instill toughness, we got to put the pads up.

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Speaker 1: Like the bye week we have when we got molligwapped by Ohio State my senior year was like those practices were brutal, Yeah, talking, take them to the ground, all of it bro and that is not a place you want to be in as a player.

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Speaker 2: My senior year we didn't do very well and during Bowl practice was when hell broke loose. Luckily for me, I got a couple of rest days, but I had watched I had to watch.

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Speaker 1: Hell on FULD some programs absolutely get after it during bowl season. Yeah, it's like an early spring. It's like another iteration of spring. A lot of new guys see what they can do. I think about next year, what's going to happen. Yep.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it can get bloody, especially in college football for sure. Before we get to our first game, I just want to congratulate you man. Your hair is growing back fast.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people that are sitting here watching the show right now, I thought it's not coming back. A lot of doubters and a lot of haters out there, A lot of doubters and a lot of haters not here.

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Speaker 3: No, No, frankly, there are some people here that thought it would be better not coming back. Like some people I don't want to name names. Some people thought you looked great as you were. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I do feel good with the way I look so much so that it's like, you know, maybe I do show it to my haircut appointment next weekend, like hey, let's buzz it off again. Yeah, especially we go out we were uh Michigan State. I think it's it's here to stay.

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Speaker 3: Definitely.

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Speaker 2: My favorites of that game eleven point favorites.

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Speaker 1: It's like ten and a half or eleven and a half if you can move the line of sixteen and a half.

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Speaker 2: Okay, sof Nebraska loses, Nebraska loses, we won't. Okay, this is a hypothetic. We're living in a fantasy world because I agree with you're not going to lose. Do you go to your haircut appointment on Tuesday next week? Still just waste fifty dollars.

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Speaker 1: I think if Nebraska lose is anybody who has me in their phone book should be calling me because this is scary hours. It is spooped over, It is spooked over. Where's I can't lose you? The first week is spooked over? Yeah, I can't have that. You gotta give it. If we lost to Michigan, say, you probably give it ten minutes on the timeline. If you see nothing on there, that's where you got to start dying right now. If I see that it's close in the fourth I'll be driving to your house. Yeah, and I'll just tell you listen, don't do anything drastic waste till November. First. I need you for all spooked over.

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Speaker 2: Spooky season for Texas and Florida Texas is at Florida Anti Texas, Anti.

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Speaker 3: Texas, notably Anti Texas.

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Speaker 2: Notably Anti Texas is favored the team you hate the most minus six and a half ten points in that game is forty one.

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Speaker 1: And a half.

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Speaker 3: I want to just pull something out here.

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Speaker 1: Here's some paper popper, I got something. Yeah, you know what, let me get the iPad.

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Speaker 3: Here's what I want to ask you, guys.

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Speaker 1: Makes a noise.

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Speaker 3: Is there a massive gap between these teams? Point spread says yes. If you're nearly a touchdown favorite on someone else's field, that means there's a really big gap between you and them. Right, there's a big gap in the records, there's a big gap in the rankings. But I'm asking, is there a massive gap just in the quality of teams. You've watched both these teams play. So let's pretend DJ Lagway is not going to turn it over five times Saturday. Let's just assume defense than he played when he turned over true. Yea, it's the tall bye week, that tough practices.

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Speaker 1: You're saying Florida's defense is just as good as Texas's defense.

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Speaker 3: I'm saying close enough. I'm saying they can match bro.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but hold on, I think that's the argument he's putting up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not the argum parent teams. Right now, we're comparing teams.

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Speaker 2: He's saying, let's assume DJ Ligway is not to throw five interceptions versus a better defense than the team he threw five interceptions against.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's assume he's not even putting that position. All right. So my big beef in that LSU game was you've got Jaden Ball running the ball at nearly six yards per clip, and they ran him ten times against LSU. They ran him twelve times against Miami. But in the LSU game, LSU's not pulling away from you, and you've got your quarterback throwing picks left and right, literally left and right all parts of the field. There was no part of the field left uninterceptible by DJ Lagway, why would you not just run the ball anymore? So? Anyway, this is more philosophical play. This is more like a theory based play for me, because I think about a team that's already lost two games. I think about a coach that's beyond on the hot seat. I think about a quarterback that has not had it throwing the ball. And I think about a running game that, when given time or when given an opportunity, has been operating pretty efficiently. I don't want to throw the ball against Texas. I don't feel like with this O line and ground game, I should have to. So anyway, when you suck, you've got the least incentive in the world to keep doing what you've been doing when you go into the bye week. I don't know what change is to expect. I just know they got to change stuff, like no stone is left unturned in that building. My suspicion is what they will change is they'll try and compact the game by running the ball. And the one thing that you can question about Texas coming into this year is back to back years they've had to replenish interior defensive line. Now, Ohio State didn't run in a ton against them, but Ohio State did good enough to win the game. I think taking Texas on the road again, first road game since the trip to Columbus. Yes, we watched arch Manning, we watched him struggle. I don't magically think he's a different player just because they come out of a bye week. I don't think Lagway is either. I just think they can mask his inefficiencies by using what should be the actual strength of the Florida offense anyway, and that's the ground game. That's part one. Part two is even doing that, you got to raise or thin margin for error. But that's where I think home field matters. Like to me, there's not a massive gap. Both of these teams are win the one hundreds in third down off conversion, so there's just not a massive gap. I think if Florida had played Texas a schedule that have the same record as Texas, But since they haven't and they've lost a couple more games, there's just like thinking that Texas just go in there, make sure you don't get hurt. Clean some things up and then come to the Oklahoma game. I don't think that's the way it goes. So I'm going to roll the dice that some stuff changes for Florida and it reverts back to what it should have been anyway, and they get this inexplicable win. They beat Texas out right, and then everyone's asking, well, what now with Billy Napier? What do we do? Just like last year is a foregone conclusion, he's going to get fired. But the thing about a guy is until you fire him, he gets to keep coaching. And his team didn't quit on him last year, and I don't think they're going to quit on him this year. So I am rolling the dice. The line's only six and a half. We saw multiple games last week with these weird six and a half point spreads. FSU Virginia was one of them, and you say, how could it happen? USC Illinois was one of them. How could it happen? Well, they both happen, So it's not the craziest concept in the world to me. I'm gonna take Florida to cover and win outright.

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Speaker 1: So you're on the show, so you're saying Flora's gonna.

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Speaker 3: Win I'm gonna say Florida is gonna win in your in your record next week.

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Speaker 1: Yes you, I mean you might as well just take the points right for the show.

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Speaker 3: No, actually, actually I want Florida to win, but maybe I'll go Indiana Illinois mode like you did. Maybe I'll take the dog to win out right, but the favorite to cover. It seems to work out around. Perhaps we go that route you want scooptober that's my will. I've tryed and parlay that in fan duel. Just gave me a frowning face. It said, log off, Yeah, so long.

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Speaker 1: Get the reminder you spent a little too much time. Yeah, reality check, Yeah yeah, yeah, the reality chick.

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Speaker 2: I mean, in the words of Will Compton, to stick on his phrases like if they if the the dog wins outright and then the favorite covers like they're.

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Speaker 3: Onto something, they are they're up? How did they know?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: How did they get it? I love everything you said. No one speaks about college football more poetically than you do. I think you look at both coaching staffs. You give the edge of Texas. Yes, early in the year, Sarkesian is sitting there being like you think Archie shirt did he tell you that he's had a big panic attack both and then I started look at Arch and it's like, Okay, he's hurt. We can assume he's hurt. They have a bi week a lot of times that gets fixed. I wonder what DJ Lagway is up to, and I run across this Like Florida Gators podcast, it gets like one hundred and thirty views. They're just all about the Gator. They will talk about anything else. And apparently DJ Lagway had a shoulder that he should have got surgery on this offseason. Didn't get it, according to them. Also has like a soft tish or an ankle going on which can't be fixed in the BI week. I think it's calf calf, soft tish something going on. I got to take the better defense. I got to take a team that has stacked more wins consistently, regardless of they're good teams or not, and they're going to go into a place where it's like, yeah, it'll be a hostile environment, but USF didn't have an issue with that at all. So I will be taking Texas to cover in this game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to Texas. It's like when you bang your head against the wall and figure out like, Okay, you essentially hope this Florida team that we know to be shows up. Hope is not a strategy. No DJ Lagway, is the all of a sudden going to be the DJ Lagway preseason JP or Josh Pate poll one of the top quarterbacks in the country. I don't think it happens after you know, even though he's coming off of a bye week, are they just gonna run the football? They're still one hundred and seventh in the country running the football against a very good Texas defense. This isn't a veteran group that's played that's just a veteran group that's played together. This is a veteran group that was a top five defense in the country last year, led the league in takeaways, top five and run top five and total yards, top five in points. They're still top five and yards and top five in points this year. And they're savvy, bro like this is this is a defense that all it's gonna take, and you talk about home field advantage, all it's gonna take is for Texas to score first, or Texas to score or the ball to not bounce the correct way one time for the stadium to be taken out of the game.

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Speaker 3: I agree.

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Speaker 1: This isn't like a This isn't like a Napier pressure situation. This is an entire organization. They haven't started one to three since nineteen eighty six. Like everybody there is hopeful that Napier probably doesn't win this game, so they can just do away with him because the fan base is so fed up. I mean again, it's like not to bring Nebraska into every conversation, but a program that's lost over and over and then the ball doesn't bounce their way one time. We've got to witness it at Nebraska Mission a couple of years ago, after just a second series, when Michigan scores first and then they get an interception, the game's just done. Like the crowd doesn't even count any It doesn't. And so if I'm just looking at this game, you also have to. It's like, do you believe that Arch because again, this line could be what it is because you saw the arch manning game against Ohio State. You haven't really watched a whole lot of Texas football, myself included. I'm sitting here watching the recap games and the way that it's like, do you think he's getting more accurate. Do you think he's getting more confident? Do you think that the offense is finding a way to play more sad to getting Wingo the ball in rpo situations and getting him the ball often and early in this game, which I think they need to do. They have a very good run game. I just think Texas has too much. I have no clue how Florida is gonna win this game outside of a hope and a prayer that all of a sudden they find a run game overnight and be like, hey, DJ, we're not gonna You're not gonna be the main show, which I don't think is gonna happen. I think he is, and I think you put it on his shoulders. The same thing's gonna happen. You're gonna get the same outcome. So I like Texas here. I like Texas covering as a favorite. Was it six and a half on the road in Florida.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna keep saying this, all right, So the rushing statistic you gave is accurate. They're in the one hundreds in just rush yards per game. I would look at that if it were three point two yards per carry, and I would be concerned that they just can't run the ball. They're in like the five to six yards per carry range. They just won't run the ball. They're so they're so intent on force feeding dj lagway at least they have been that. Like my fundamental thinking is the shift will be art. We're done with that, and we're gonna play the game in a phone booth. Is going to be the ugliest, most hideous game imaginable. That's the way they win it. You said that's the they need a prayer. That's the prayer. It's like a thirteen to nine, sixteen to ten type game. The thing that scares me the most about Texas is the pass rush, and so that's the way I neutralize it to some extent. Now, Texas is edge rushers, is also really good run dye, So it's not like I'm gonna run it straight at him because they're one trick ponies.

00:25:00
Speaker 1: But and even in twos, I say you go to a primary run game offense for Florida, you're still going up a defense that's only allowing a twenty two percent conversion right on third down, which is one of the best in the country. The Texas defense is for real. I know all the conversation around arch manning and everything else, but they returned six out of the seven on the back end from last year. They were a top five defense last year. They're still doing the same thing this year.

00:25:22
Speaker 3: See to me, you got to have a strategy the totals forty forty one something like that in this Yeah, you got to have a strategy where twenty is good enough to win your defense. Got to know that going in. They've they've done that kind of stuff before this year already. You just you hate to put your guys in that position, but you got to have some kind of game plan here where twenty is good enough to win.

00:25:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, agreed, Good luck to the Gators. Someone's life is about to change.

00:25:47
Speaker 2: Because if let's say Florida does come out and say, oh right, we're going to run the ball over and over again, Texas is going to assume that DJ Lagwise is still going to be the guy, the prominent guy in the role throwing the ball over the field. If you get a couple of series that game and Florida's running the ball efficiently on you in the averages, you're saying, sarking those guys, they're they're good enough to make in game adjustments before halftime, and now take away the run and make DJ liveway beat with his arm, which he's proven he can't do.

00:26:12
Speaker 1: Right.

00:26:13
Speaker 3: See, I think their passing game has to be really unconventional. Like their pass yardage. There's nothing, probably very little underneath, probably very little intermediate. It is run the ball, run the ball, run the ball. We've been effective enough.

00:26:23
Speaker 1: Safeties are down.

00:26:24
Speaker 3: We a couple of them. He could have he could have like one hundred and thirty passing yards on three completions something like that at some point in that game. It's just gonna be it's gonna have to be a really really unique, pull it off the shelf, one time per year, unconventional type approach because there's no standardized Florida way that they're beating Texas, because we've seen what the standardized Florida away this year brings.

00:26:46
Speaker 1: And then if let's say that happens, the whole world's gonna be like, why Florida, why can't you Why haven't you been able to figure this out from the jump?

00:26:55
Speaker 3: Yeah?

00:26:55
Speaker 1: And then the next time they're losing the back, God, maybe er he can't figure it. Yeah.

00:26:57
Speaker 3: And then Meanwhile, Texas two losses going into red River, which would suck. Yeah, yeah, and no materir.

00:27:04
Speaker 1: We'll see allegedly allegedly you're hearing anything about Matier under the table.

00:27:09
Speaker 3: I think they want to. I think their intent is to get him ready for that game, but I don't think even they know if he's going to be ready. Then again, when your surgeon is on message boards giving updates, which I thought was a hip of violation, But twenty twenty five unless he signed something, where are we as a society? You know, just whatever it is ooctober after all? So hip A violations, hippo masculine version, Yeah, hippa violation out the window.

00:27:33
Speaker 2: Uh. Missus one, missus Mississippi State at Texas A and M. They A M's ranked six in the country.

00:27:39
Speaker 1: These A and M is.

00:27:40
Speaker 2: Favored by fourteen and a half points. Towel points in the game is fifty five and a half. Man.

00:27:47
Speaker 1: To me, I think this is a getback spot for A and M's offense. They perform very poorly. They've been performing poorly on third down, especially last week against Auburn. I look at Mississippi State like, to me, this is where you know they went, did they have a win last year in the SEC? New Year though, New Year? And I think part of me is like, Okay, this is the end of their year. Like they had a good year, they got off with a four and one start. Now they're in SEC play. Now it's over. Because when you watch the Mississippi State Tennessee game, it's like, you got a muff punt, you get a Tennessee gets a touchdown, call back from an offensive PI call, tip ball for Tennessee, fake punt. Misssippi State pull out a fake punt. Yeah, two tip balls that were interceptions a third and long. That like yeah, every now and then you're gonna you're gonna, uh, you're gonna convert on a third or long situation. But you just see how Misissippi State one, hats off to them. They fought their ass off all this way. But going into A and M, this is like, A, you know, this is a very good A and M football team. Their defense, that defensive line is very good, and it's like, I don't know, the line is what fourteen and a half teen and a half, And it's like, is this a trap game situation for A and M? You come off some big wins earlier in this or this first part of the year. You just ended with you beat Auburn, a gritty win. You got some big games coming up after Mississippi State. Is this a spot to where they overlook Mississippi State and Missippi States can still create some type of magic and energy. I personally think it's more of a giveback spot for that offense, because that offense can move the ball. They just put themselves in some bad situations, miss some field goals. I like A and M at home in this game, But I truly would not be surprised that this is a trap game situation.

00:29:21
Speaker 2: I don't disagree with you that this could be a trap game if Tennessee doesn't have a game, they do agains Mississippi State because Mike Elco can sit there and put the film on be like they took Tennessee, who's a high powered offense into overtime and barely lost that game. They could beat anybody. That's kind of conversations taking place in his locker room. I think the defensive line for tex Sam is better, and that Blake Shaping, that's the quarterback Mississippi State. He was getting mopped all over, destroyed destroyed. Can't take them in hits. You're going to a hostile environment. Colt or not Texas A and M Colt or not, they go hard on game day. I think I agree with you when it comes like Mississippi State was in the game with Tennessee, because it seemed like Tennessee like lethargically win of that game, thinking oh, this is Mississippi State, ignore the cow bells, let's beat him by forty points and get out there and you.

00:30:04
Speaker 1: Let a bad team hang around you muff upon they end up scoring off that.

00:30:07
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, there's two Everything could go wrong for Tennessee went wrong, and that's what capt Missisippi State in the game. But it's just enough for Elco to sit there and be like, these guys can play with anybody, and you can. You can bring that narrative to your players. You know your offense is it got a chip on their shoulder because of Auburn. So I like A and M having a dominant win over Mississippi State here.

00:30:26
Speaker 1: I hope. So that's where I'm riding.

00:30:28
Speaker 3: So you're both laying the points here, laying yes, fourteen and a half, fourteen and a half.

00:30:33
Speaker 1: I know it's a big lift. I think we can do it.

00:30:36
Speaker 3: You said, is it a trap game? I don't know if it's a trap game, Like I believe both of the mentally, A and M will be fully checked in. It is a huge benefit to them that that game Mississippi State had went down to the wire. That's an attention getter. You're also in this really unique spot where A and M won last week, but everyone like Elko had to chew the media out in the post game because they were just asking negative questions. So it's not like there's this lethargic hangover type vibe around them. They struggled against Auburn, they came off scoreing forty one at Notre Dame, had a bye week, and couldn't break twenty against Auburn. So I don't think it's a trap spot for A and M. I actually think it's a trap line. Like I think FanDuel is begging someone to take State plus fourteen and a half. The reason I'm taking State plus fourteen and a half is I still think in principle they're underrated as a team. Like you remember last year or last week, Mississippi State plus the points was one of my favorite bets of the week because I think they're undervalued, and I think they're still undervalued. So this is a game that, like if A and M wins by seven ten something like that, people will look at it and say, man, we won, But I would look at that and say, you beat What the rest of the year will go on to prove is a pretty good Mississippi State team, Like a pretty solid team, not great, not any other adjectives, just pretty good team. They got Florida coming in there next week. By the way A and M does so in the preseason, this did look like a letdown spot sandwich between Auburn and Florida. I just think State is a good enough team that they don't need crazy stuff to happen here to hang in the game. They got an experienced quarterback that can do good enough things. They got a tailback that can do good enough things. They got better sec bodies up front that can hang good enough. The thing that worries me if I'm taking the points here is I'm a huge fan of teams that show early in the season they can win several different types of games, and A and M is now want to shootout and a slog fest, so they're comfortable. No matter how this game starts to take shape, I think they're gonna win. I think A and M will win. I think State covers, especially with the hook. I will take the fourteen and a half. I think it's a little too generous. It's begging you to take it, and you're taking. They are begging me. And I'm a friend. I'm a friend of FanDuel. You guys are in a part. I'm a friend. Yeah, you asked, you continue to ask the good questions. This is not a backdoor situation. This is a hard fought game. It's within that margin the whole time. This is not a and M gets up big and then it's all of a sudden forty one to thirty at the end of the day, causing two late touchdowns. No, although I would take it, it still counts as a win for me if it happens that way. But no, I think State's just gonna fight. I think they're that good. I think they're that improved year one to year two.

00:33:17
Speaker 2: Is there a world where Texas Olampic's an early lead and then Mississippi State realizes, oh, the only reason why we're in the game of Tennessee is because Tennessee didn't play well as longways want to bet Asus because ASU didn't learn from their mistake against Texas in the playoff and went zero at the end of the game. And that starts to creep in and be like, really, we're not see, We're not like that.

00:33:36
Speaker 1: I like that scenario more because this defense is going to beat the shit out of Missippi State. The offense A and M's offense, like they had over four hundred yards of total offense. These didn't get they're not converting on third down, they're not getting the points when the opportunities are there to get the points. Like, to me, this is such a giveback spot for that offense. It's where I think it's a I think it's a situation. You're you're laying out.

00:33:55
Speaker 2: So we're two games in, yep, disagreement. Record are all pretty close right now.

00:34:01
Speaker 3: This is separation.

00:34:02
Speaker 1: This is a separation week, this spooky season. Yeah, and he's he's and by the way, It'spootober he come with the dogs. We kind of seem like squares right now. We got both favorites. That's okay. So you can call me whatever you want, but you have to call me a winner. As well.

00:34:16
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I love losers. I love losers. You know what kind of you know what kind of bravery it takes to look at Billy Napier right now and say, yeah, that's my guy. You know what it takes to say Mississippi State. Yeah, I'll ride with him.

00:34:32
Speaker 1: I've been two and fourteen murdered last week. But he's good enough.

00:34:36
Speaker 3: They lost.

00:34:36
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna make great it's good good.

00:34:40
Speaker 2: Oh dude, Michaelov Ultra will They've got this fun idea. Will you play for an Ultra. It's all about these funding, little competitions, and there's always an Ultra on the line.

00:34:47
Speaker 1: We can throw him right here. Let's see rock papers shoot for rock rivers, shoot RockA just let's do one quick on rock paper scissor shoot Ult's mine. That's the point that everybody's trying to make ultures taste better. When you have bragging rights, no matter if you're playing hoops, whatever the game you're playing, whether it's the first Ultra of the last Ultra, rock paper scissors, any friendly competition, bragging rights make it better.

00:35:07
Speaker 2: So, as you're telling me, is superior is worth playing for?

00:35:10
Speaker 1: Superior is worth playing for?

00:35:12
Speaker 2: Mikaelobultra Superior light Beer. I geet back to this episode, this game number eleven, Texas Tech at Houston, both teams undefeated. Looks like this is a big this is gonna be a big deal game. To me, this is not oh wow, this is Texas Tech is going to blow the doors all the points. By the way, if you're wondering watching the show, wondering what the points are, text Tech is favored by eleven and a half, it's not enough total points of the game fifty and a half. I think Texas Tech points per game are at fifty two right now. That's what they're Advaca points for game is fifty two.

00:35:43
Speaker 1: They wouldn't.

00:35:43
Speaker 2: A couple weeks ago we talked about Texas Tech in Utah, Utah, and they had to go and this is these are two of your teams you brought in the big twelve. Texas Tech's quarterback gets hurt and they end up still in the fourth court of putting up twenty one points on Utah with no no, no answered, just absolutely pulled away in a big way. They spent more money or at least top five of anybody else in the portal. And then you look at the record of Houston and it's like, yeah, they're five and zero. They beat Colorado thirty six to twenty. Well, Colorado's two and three now and they beat Oregon State twenty seven to twenty four. Do you know what Oregon States record is five oh and five?

00:36:18
Speaker 1: And I kind of like them to get their first one this week. And that's for a different conversation you have.

00:36:24
Speaker 2: So to me, this is like we have a better team, even though the records are the same, one team is clearly better than the other.

00:36:30
Speaker 1: And I think it's Texas Tech. He just said you was some math.

00:36:33
Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems like it seems like the side FanDuel wants us to be on low double digit favorite here on the road, Houston undefeated, a lot of disrespect that many points being given to the home dog unfortunately slash fortunately, depending on which side of the worldview you live on here, I think you're right. I think they could run it up on Houston. I mean, let's remember you were pointing out one side of the Utah game, like we were staying on the field looking at the score and saying, I thought the backup was in. How are they running it up on Utah? Well, remember part two of the way they ran it up is because they held Utah to ten points, so they suffocated Utah. I think they're going to do the same thing the Houston here. I actually think the fact that Houston's five and zero is what's keeping this line under two touchdowns, which is a blessing for at least two of us, maybe three, we'll see in just a second. I think that they are going to continue to plant the flag and sort of separate themselves in the Big Twelve as that one team that could not only win the Big Twelve. But maybe you're kind of scared of if they get in the playoff.

00:37:34
Speaker 1: Oh you, that's the.

00:37:35
Speaker 2: Second time you brought that up when we talked about Texastate at Utah. You're like, this team is one team going to blow the other team out to where we go. Oh, there's a big team to be afraid.

00:37:42
Speaker 3: Of it, And they did and with their backup. But think about this, so are you afraid to yet? Though we were doing so. I was doing my show last night. We pulled up the on three Transfer Portal team rankings and Texas Tech was number one, and I was going back and looking at some of the headlines and people were saying, oh, yeah, they're number one, but that's just because they went and bought a whole team, Like, don't take that seriously. And Joey McGuire's the head coach there, and I was talking to him in August and he was saying, folks are going to dismiss what we did. They're gonna call it just mercenary shopping. They're gonna act like we went to the grocery store and just threw a bunch of stuff in supermarket sweep style. He said, Now, you're gonna have to wait to the season to see, but this is the best group. It's the most cohesive group I've been around. I know it defies conventional wisdom. I know that's not how team building is historically supposed to work. But you'll see, right, So we're seeing now and then I think if they continue to do what they're doing, then the talent was never the question. The question was did you go get a bunch of individuals or did you really put a team together? Did you fundamentally build a team out of the portal? And I think early results September answer is yes they did. Now we're into October, d I think they're really good, and I think it could. You could absolutely make the argument they'll be the most gettable early in the season, like I would think they only get stronger as a team later in the season. And if we I mean, I don't know if I've seen any truly elite teams out there yet. Maybe some of them become elite teams. But if we're just in a year where the best is very good and Texas Tech did what they did, absolutely they could go win games in the playoff if they make it. But we need to stop talking about that because it's only October.

00:39:11
Speaker 1: It's only October. What's the movie with the what's the movie with the mercenaries? You got Sylvester Stalone, Ivan Drago, Jason Statham.

00:39:18
Speaker 3: The eighteen, No, not the eighteen. Are you talking about dispensables?

00:39:24
Speaker 1: Expendables. That's what Texas Tech has built, the expendables. A lot of mercenaries. They're all yelling together. They're accomplishing the mission. Took us a while to get there, but we got Yeah, it took us a minute. I'm going with Texas Tech. I could sit here and elaborate. You guys all hit a lot of great points. I like Texas Tech in this game, them just beating going up, going up to Utah and winning that game. Big dropped a lot in the fourth quarter, which makes me a little gets me a little nervous by I like the D line. The offense puts up a lot of points. I was kind of flint with the over for a second, but you just talked to me out of it the way.

00:39:51
Speaker 3: You know, you talked about favorite in the under maybe like like thirty eight to ten type stuff.

00:39:56
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, they were just talk about how averaging fifty points a game.

00:40:02
Speaker 3: Maybe they hit the over by themselves. You're thinking Indiana vibes here.

00:40:05
Speaker 1: I was thinking that. But then the way you talked about the suffocation and everything else and the expendables got in my brain. I'm like, I like that analogy of the expendables. Give me Texas Tech mis eleven and a half. Okay, what about that points.

00:40:17
Speaker 3: Count for the record, where's the total special.

00:40:20
Speaker 2: Odd lean going over? I love I hate over unders. Hate it you watch a.

00:40:27
Speaker 1: Game outside of outside of that, the comment about like, Okay, maybe I don't take the under here. It's like I also think Houston can score points, but Texas Tech mine eleven and a half.

00:40:40
Speaker 3: You know what Memo said about totals betting tell us she said it ain't under till it's over, and I never bet an under again.

00:40:49
Speaker 1: It ain't under till it's over. That's beautiful.

00:40:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, dude's ever coming up with that. That had to be a mema special.

00:41:00
Speaker 1: The game, well, not the game, a game, massive game, a game that you will be going to. This This is a fall tour right here, Fall don't Lie Tour going down to Miami at Florida State. The line on this game, Miami is favored by four and a half at Florida State Florida State Dogs. The total in this game is fifty three and a half. I'm terrified of this game.

00:41:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, so I think of Virginia Tech loses to Florida State. I'm not as terrified anymore Virginia.

00:41:30
Speaker 1: I like Miami more. But somebody wounded animal at home.

00:41:35
Speaker 3: They clipped an extra day to think about it.

00:41:38
Speaker 1: Yeah.

00:41:38
Speaker 3: I played that game on Friday last week, dude.

00:41:40
Speaker 1: I was on Florida State all week. All week, I was on Florida State, you know, sitting upstairs last night trying to put my final notes and thoughts together. I'm looking at stats and I'm kind of rewatching the I went back to rewatch the Alabama Florida State game watching the Virginia Florida State game a little bit. I was listening to your thoughts on Castelanos throwing downfield, so that what That's what got me going, and I kind of like watching tape on it, and I like Miami. Here. I'm taking Miami because in my head, it's like, all right, if Miami is going to be this program that's going to be a national title contender, then they're above everybody. They're in that tier that's above everybody else. Like this is only four and a half points. This isn't a very big line. So that's why I like Miami, and because it's like, all right, so we see what Alabama's doing now since they tasted their blood in the for in Week one against Florida State. So how does Florida State upset Alabama and the creativity that they have in the run game. Because you're right, like Casilanos, he doesn't do very well throwing the ball downfield. They're not going to be able to win this game through the year. So all eyes are going to be on stopping the run. Well. Florida State, Yeah, yeah, Florida State has a very creative offense. Remind me of the OC's name, Melason. Very creative offense and the fact that you know there'd be checks when when I was playing to where if you have a wide receiver in the backfield, we call it zoo. You have all these zoo alerts because they'll motion guys in the backfield. They have kind of a gun wishbone look at times. They did a couple into rounds against Alabama. They're gonna have to get really creative to where Alabama seeing some of this stuff for the first time because you don't necessarily know how to prepare for how you might be attacked against Castellanos. Now that there's four games of tape on on Florida State, that is where I like my odds with Miami here because they're gonna have time to prepare and see what they can look to what wrinkles, what window dressing, what concepts are gonna like see. This is a big keep your eyes on your work type of game for Miami because again, even when they hit you with some big throws, it'll be a guy or a receiver coming out of the backfield based on these shifts, and they're hitting them on a wheel route down the sideline. If this if Castellanos happened to be an Underwood or a Diego Pavia or a Sores be from Cincinnati, It's like, if you had that threat of the arm in the run, then I would lean a little bit more on Florida State here. But I think the only way Florida State wins is through their run game. I think Miami has enough on them to prepare for this run game. They have a very good defense. They have a very good defense. They hit the transfer portal hard. I had question marks on their secondary. They are playing very well their old line. They can run the ball really well. With four and a half points, I really like Miami in this situation, that's your boy taking four favorites this week. I kind of hate it. I hate myself for it, but that's just the way I'm seeing it.

00:44:24
Speaker 2: The thing that I like about everything you said was like, yeah, Miami runs the ball well, but also like Carson Beck does a great job of utilizing the past game as the run game, like where he can use the checkdowns to get himself five six yards on first and second down, putting himself in third and manageables. You've really sold me in Miami because I kind of walked into this without a real choice. I mean, I wrote down here in Miami, but I also was that was it's an ink, but it could might as well have been in Pennsylan.

00:44:48
Speaker 1: Because all week I'm like, I like the yeah, yeah.

00:44:51
Speaker 2: Because we always do the whole who you got here, who you got here?

00:44:53
Speaker 1: And it always changes. Yeah. Would you like to sell me on Florida State?

00:44:57
Speaker 3: No, I would like to. I would like to make the argument for how they would do it. So I think that it's so imperative. Their ground games got to scale. It's the number two rushing offense in the country right now against the top ten rushing defense. And I think even at number eight, Miami's run Dee's probably low because they face better competition. So it's got to scale. I've watched Malzion in the past in the SEC like if he has a decided disadvantage in the box running the ball, he's really good at getting it on the perimeter quick. That's where Miami has I think four of five guys as new starters. They went to the portal they kept oj Frederic and then they just overhauled their secondary. You got to make those guys prove they can tackle. You got to make those guys prove they can defend the run. That's the first thing they'll find out. If that doesn't scale, Florida State's in huge trouble because of what you said. You can't trust Tomac Astellanos to throw the ball. You want a paper popper.

00:45:46
Speaker 1: Here, I want a paper popper.

00:45:48
Speaker 3: Bad Josh Pate when he throws for two hundred and forty plus yards, which sounds like a good thing, he's one in five in his career, so it's actually a bad thing the more he throws the ball. Yeah, right, not great at all. Miami just asks a simple question. It's just can you handle it? Like are you man enough? Can you defend the run? If you can't. It's really academic. And Beck doesn't even need to do a whole lot, even if you do ask him to do a lot, though he can.

00:46:16
Speaker 1: So he got the guys on the ouside.

00:46:17
Speaker 3: Yes, So you start stacking. Just the pancakes stack up in front of you. The ways you can win. There's like one pancake over here on the FSU plate. There are two or three of them on the Miami plate. The second pancake, if you want to sell me or if I want to sell you on having one on the Florida State plate is Miami hasn't left home. So there's a lot that you find out about an organization and a program when you take it on the road. We do have the whole wounded animal theory home dog and play here. We've watched it happen all over the country so far this year. In the past, Miami has been victimized by end game decision making. That's been a little suspect and we really haven't seen that have an opportunity to crop up this year. It kind of did in the Notre Dame game, but they didn't have to pay for it, So there's a lot of intangible I don't know how to quantify that, but that's the way it would go Florida State's direction. I'd have to see it to believe it, and consequently I will because I'm gonna go down there. First game I've been at in Tallahassee since twenty sixteen, when a guy named Deshaan Watson came in there and beat him thirty five to thirty one. By my math, that final would lead Florida State to cover. But I don't think Florida State's gonna score thirty one on Miami, So I'm gonna take Miami to win and cover as well.

00:47:29
Speaker 1: In Miami coming off of bye week two, they are it's like there, you're sitting back and you have you know, you're probably working on some of these run game fits and some of these different looks and motions that Florida State gives you to be creative in the run game. And then you get to kind of sit back and look at whatever extra wrinkles to confirm your notes against Virginia. Then Virginia ends up beating them, and then you're kind of you're kind of dialing, Okay, they might have showed these couple other looks, Tori, you just implement them even more to confirmative practice because this is big, like be very good in discipline with your eyes if if you're on Miami's defense. And then I think to myself, it's like the whole overreaction on Week one. Thing nobody had Florida State being like the a dominant ACC team coming off the season that they had last year. I'm not saying that they're not going to be very good. They they very much are trending that way even if they dropped this game here. But it's like, you there's such an overreaction, Oh, Florida State for real knocking off you know a lot of people had Alabama's national champions and they knock them off in a bad weather game and everything else. Then they go off take care of business against these little ducks now that they've now that they've gotten humbled or lost to Virginia, it's like, okay, or you know, where is who is Florida State? And I just think that there's there's enough now, there's enough of a sample size to study kind of in on the on the run game that they have, because they do have a very good run game.

00:48:41
Speaker 2: You only have so many formations, so many ship pocket and it's like you've had four games.

00:48:49
Speaker 1: To show us like, hey, now we've stopped the run. Now we got to now we're gonna have to win through the air and the paper popper that you gave it's like, you know, we.

00:48:55
Speaker 2: Don't want to win to the air because he doesn't win through the air.

00:48:57
Speaker 1: Yeah, for two forty plus and I'd like to see a team to just not be a clear number one, but clear just saying that this is a this is a national championship, because as we get deeper in October, it's like, we'll realize who's who in the zoo and you'd like to have someone from each conference the standard that you're like, I can't.

00:49:15
Speaker 2: Wait to wash them against other conferences. Stay in Oregon, you got Miami Texas Tech. If they do what they're supposed to do in Houston.

00:49:24
Speaker 1: People will always people question Texas Tech, though, until it gets closer to I loved I loved you saying like they should be their worst in September because of the cohesiveness and the fact that they've been amazing in September proves to me like Texas Tech could be a little it could be nasty boys. The reason I think we're on some zews, we just we just keep getting closer about.

00:49:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can you can feel at most you forget about the cameras and the people watching, Yeah, maybe in the corner wondering if he's having a good time.

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00:50:50
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00:50:54
Speaker 2: Every center he's got game, but only one fits just right. This is the true Classic Game of the Week, True Classic pants on busting with the boys here Vanderbilt number sixteen, Vanderbilt at number ten, Alabama Clark Lee first Killen de Boor. Last year, Vandy won forty to thirty five when Bama was number one. Alabama's favorite ten and a half. Total points in that game is fifty five and a half.

00:51:18
Speaker 4: Garrett, Yeah, it's a big week.

00:51:22
Speaker 1: You know.

00:51:22
Speaker 4: Last year, the same thing happened. You take down the Bulldogs, you get a little high, they put you at number one. You think you're gonna walk into Nashville and do what you always do to Vandy and it doesn't happen.

00:51:35
Speaker 3: That sucks.

00:51:36
Speaker 4: This team this year is a lot different than last year. Ty said it himself. Vandy is also different. They're better. So you have to stay focused. It's just another game. Do not worry about what happened last year. Take care of business. And I have a quote. Oh yeah, never take your own revenge, but leave room for the wrath of God. And God is in Crimson this weekend.

00:52:04
Speaker 1: He hit his biblically. Yeah that's old testament. Yeah, that's old testament.

00:52:09
Speaker 2: She went hard to you. Hear whispers in the crowd right now. By the way, this is filmed in front of a live audience. Oh all right, I like everything he said. I like everything he said. Oh, the calendar bor zero to one versus quarterbacks that talk about him in the off season.

00:52:31
Speaker 3: Orend trend for me.

00:52:33
Speaker 2: And there's a trend for me and Diego. Pavia is big of a wrestler, brain as he is, puts fucking points on the board. That's six touchdowns, kind of for six of them. Last week when it was kind of like close against Utah State, Vanderbilts selling out there's traffic in Nashville on Saturdays now like Vanderbilt is different. I'm gonna take I'm gonna take Vandy to cover because I promised Kate I would trust them until I can't. And a piece of me hopes I get this wrong this week because Cade sat in my pool in the summertime and he's like, we win the national champ we win the SEC in the National Championship, we take me the old line on Diego to Vegas and play with us, And I'm thinking about I looked him in the eyes, I said, you, I've been in champion.

00:53:23
Speaker 1: Will you take it to the tunnel?

00:53:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, essentially, And I told him I was like, Buddy, you guys just don't have the team.

00:53:31
Speaker 1: You don't have the team.

00:53:32
Speaker 2: And I'm not trying to be disrespectful to you, but I said to his face, like, you guys are not They're not a national championship caliber team, and.

00:53:38
Speaker 1: They look good.

00:53:39
Speaker 2: If they win this game, I'm gonna start shitting myself a little bit. I don't want to pay for that. But I'll take Vandy to cover. I'll take Vanity to cover. And there's a if Vandy wins this game, I'm not safe. I'm not safe. That's all I have to say about that. Yeah, and listen, anybody who needs to be checked on after this week, you and you like, just wait till November first, Please don't fuck up my s October.

00:54:09
Speaker 1: I need this all right. It's a big year for me. November one. It's you guys, do what you want.

00:54:17
Speaker 3: I just want to draw the attention back over here because you and I just had a moment and you had a look in your eye like you're about to do something really irresponsible. You had an October first, it's a new day that I haven't seen in your eyes since last week when you had a new haircut type look in your eye and I just want to know what's going on up here, not in here, don't pick with that. I want to know what's going on up there.

00:54:42
Speaker 1: I think about this game. I think you can throw who's doing well in this situation, who's doing well in that situation. Vanderbilt's five and zero. I think this game this is personal for Alabama. I think last year what happened. They were in a spot where you come off a win against Georgia and you drop a game against Vandy. Vandy celebrates. This wasn't a humble win. This was you know whatud Pavias say after the game when he's like, He's like, in the uh, yeah, we're fucking turned And they've had to sit back and watch this team take victory lap after victory lap after victory lap over ultimately one game. But Vandy did slap him in the face. The feeling for Alabama after the game was embarrassment. Vanderbilt embarrassed you. They slapped in your face, and not only slapped you in the face, they also spit on your shoes. And they've been doing it throughout the offseason. They've had to sit back and watch any given Saturday and watch Diego Pavia talk shit and they've they've done nothing but hear about this. I think last week against Georgia that was a game where they've clearly bounced back from Florida State. And that is a massive hats off to that staff, to that team, because when a moment like that happens, and it's like the impossible job for a coaching staff, like why they were never gonna win at a place like Alabama coming after Nick Saban, everyone is as loud as possible, talk about messages and tweets of guys DM and getting door dash to night. Maybe they're getting there with women, whatever it is. When shit like that happens, it can do one of two things to a team. The noise either continues to happen inside the building and nobody really addresses anything, or you lock the doors and you get tighter. And this team clearly has gotten tighter. You watch last week, any negative play or turn of event that happened, the staff is out there on the field waving the players to come back. You see coordinators at times on the double move touchdown coordinator that's on me. Don't even fucking worry about that because they're locked in for sixty minutes the boor said it even at halftime. We didn't come here to play thirty minutes. We came here to play sixty minutes. Like this team is tight, and they're motivated, and they're hungry, and they needed they needed the Georgia game. They needed it. They want this game. There is no trap game, there's no there's no nothing. They fucking want this team. They want them at home and they want to beat their ass. And Ty Simpson ball high and tight as he's wheeling and d mechanics. I like Bama here. This game is weirdly personal for Bama, and I've weirdly made it personal for myself too, Like I'm rooting for the Crimson Tide to beat their ass because it's like I see the product that they had against Georgia and see the way that they've galvanized with the staff, the players, everybody, and I've loved watching it. I've loved watching it, and I'm fired up for them to play Vandy.

00:57:30
Speaker 3: Buddy, This is a Model special for me because the Model loves Vandy. Plus the points is one of its favorite bets of the week, So I don't argue with the Model. I learned my lesson a million times over already doing that. So I'm putting it out there right now. I'm taking Vandy plus the points, Vandy plus ten and a half. I just want to share anecdotally what you just said. Last week. I'm on the field for that game at Georgia and I watched Bama do what they did. I'm around them a fair amount, so vibe totally different from the time they walked in the building. Everyone saw the game. What I want to make sure people know is I did exactly what we did with Michigan. You walk off the field, you had in the locker room, you're around the players, you're where cameras can't go. They're talking about Vanderbilt. They're talking about Vanderbilt.

00:58:14
Speaker 1: That juices me up because Farman is like, you know, they didn't celebrate that win for a second.

00:58:17
Speaker 3: They fucking want this team coming in that's going into Georgia winning at Georgia and people are happy. But it's fifteen to twenty minutes Vanderbilt.

00:58:28
Speaker 1: I think Vandy's in a dangerous spot. I think they're five and oh right now.

00:58:31
Speaker 3: They're the model's taking Vandy to cover.

00:58:33
Speaker 2: So you're taking what happened, what happened to your relationship with the model. When Nebraska was playing.

00:58:38
Speaker 3: Michigan, I divorced myself after that. I can't do that, so I'm legally bound to the model. The model's taking Vandy. The model just thinks Vandy's a good team. So like Bandy, it could be one of the Vandy is a good yea baby could be right way here and win by eight like that, that could happen. It's not an indictment if they only win but don't cover, which I guess from the model's perspective, it's hoping weapons. But dude, it wouldn't surprise me if Bama because what happened last year is Vandy's lethal on third down. Vandy forty two to eighteen time of possession edge in this game. Last year, Bama lost the turnover battle, all right, Well, Bama just owned time of possession against Georgia. Bama was razor sharp on third down, like historically sharp. Georgia hasn't given up that many third down conversions in thirty years, and Bama just did that. Bama hasn't turned the ball over yet this year. So a lot of what worked for Vandy last year, just as a team talent profile Bama has flipped. We don't question Bama at home, we questioned him on the road, and even they answered that bell last week. So there's a lot of indicators that make me want to go Obama. If it was just me picking heart, that's my national champion, I got a roll with him. But I went with the model plus the points. I have no clue how it's going to go.

00:59:50
Speaker 2: Vandy's always playing four minute to start to finish the clock is that like the play clocks are like two.

00:59:55
Speaker 3: We saw Castellanos give that defense fits. We have not seen them face a quarterback with that kind of unique ability since week one. So this is as much as last week was just a test of that overall team's mentality and can you can you nut up on the road? One false start? I think the whole game like they answered all those questions all right. Now, it's Cane Womack defensive coordinator. He's got to answer the bell. They lost edge contained like five times against Georgia last week, but they didn't have to pay for it in the form of a loss. If that happens again this week, they may have to pay for it in the form of a loss because Vandy truth be told, probably more capable of making you pay for it in terms of points even than Georgia was.

01:00:37
Speaker 1: This is going to be an exciting game. I wait to watch it. I can't wait.

01:00:41
Speaker 3: Don't have to wait to night time either. Two thirty kick.

01:00:46
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think too. It's like Vandy being five and zero. Clearly the high last year is the win against Bama, but.

01:00:55
Speaker 2: They lost to Georgia State kind of caught them off garbar now, Like yeah, like Vandy's a.

01:01:01
Speaker 1: Whole lot better the way they talk and feel too, Like I love the confidence, but there's a part of me too that's like they've also never really been in this world of being quote unquote the best five and zero. Are you feeling as locked in as this team who enjoyed the win for fifteen minutes and they're already saying like, hey, we got Vandy next year, you've got or are you enjoying a few drinks on the weekend.

01:01:24
Speaker 3: I don't know.

01:01:25
Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of team bandy is.

01:01:27
Speaker 3: When's the last time we just watched Vanderbilt have true game of the week spotlight on them against against one of the big boys. Because this game last year, Like I'm not You don't have to denigrate Vandy or devalue the win to admit Bamazon you're one under a new coach. They just beat Georgia. It's total biggest letdown spot of the entire season. I mean, I remember the talk. They were twenty two point favorites. They were talking about who they could rest. I'm not talking about the team. I'm saying, like the fan base was almost talking about, all right, what didn't work against Georgia, what do we need to work on against Vandy? They talked about him like a G five team. They just had no idea what Vandy was. All right, So all that's erase. Now that's the etch a sketch vibe. All that's erased. You have a really good team at home's full attention. So if you pull it off this year, it's no smoking mirrors, it's no fluke. It's just you were good enough to hang with them. I think Vandy's good enough to hang with So, like all the stuff we're talking about, it doesn't matter once the balls kicked off. I think once the ball's kicked off, Vandy's just good enough to hang with Alabama. But everything you said about Bama's true.

01:02:32
Speaker 1: Vandy wins this game. What does that mean for Clark?

01:02:34
Speaker 3: Clear in your mind, it means there's no ceiling because they already shattered everyone's ceiling of belief about what they're capable of anyway. And then if they go into the second sort of second year of the Diego Pavia era and they go beat Bama on the road, when you didn't sneak up on them, like it's one thing, any I mean, a ten year old boy could sneak up on you and hit you in the back of the head of the baseball bat. You're defenseless, you didn't know it was.

01:03:00
Speaker 1: He ain't getting me.

01:03:01
Speaker 3: But then you turn around, does he get you again? Does he get you a second time?

01:03:05
Speaker 1: And it's in front of Hey Taylor, and it's in front of everybody to where you can't like swing on the kid and he's just been doing victory lap after victory lap. All least get his dad. Yeah, yeah, because you know this is the spot two. Bama is happy that they're five. They want all the success Bandy's had in the world because it's like there's I'm assuming which you're helping me, you're helping confirm. It's like I'm assuming this mentality of I bet they didn't enjoy that Georgia game for very long because they this is a game they want, like they needed that Georgia game. This is one that they've circled like eight times.

01:03:39
Speaker 2: You could flip it like they wanted Georgia, but they knew they had so much success in the pass with Georgia they need No. This is like a personal you don't get this one versus Vandy. It's like, what's happened? We know what Alabama's kryptonite is now, and that's a moment they say they have.

01:03:56
Speaker 1: A close loss against Vandy. I think it's just I think they're both very good football teams and bandy again, there's there's no ceiling, like this team is for real and I'll be there Miszoo comes to Van dy LSU doesn't matter. I'll be wearing that v proudly on my shirt.

01:04:09
Speaker 3: I just want to remind everyone. So, the Georgia game had its baked in meeting for Bama. The Vandy game has its baked in meeting. Do you know what Missouri is doing this weekend? Well, they don't sitting at home resting waiting for Alabama to come to them next week.

01:04:23
Speaker 1: Hey, missoo zoos sneaky Now.

01:04:25
Speaker 3: Don't tell them that they know. Yeah, tell Alabama. I'm already worried about that game for them.

01:04:31
Speaker 1: Alabama.

01:04:32
Speaker 3: Yeah to motion, Hey com coming off two really emotional games Tennessee game on deck, big rivalry game for BAMA, and you go to Missouri, Missouri off of by we're ahead of ourselves, but still and you.

01:04:45
Speaker 1: Might be given a you know, you know Bama's tuned in right now, like made that. Oh yeah, we do need to be ready to go for next week.

01:04:52
Speaker 3: You guys didn't absolve all your road issues just because you went and beat Georgia. It could creep right back in there. Yeah, we may need to do a full Eli drinkwitz x x x anonymous DM to you for Kaitlyn de War. We may need to go down that road next.

01:05:06
Speaker 1: I don't know the coach Drink. He's a friend of for the dads. He sent me a long DM about it for the dads, So I don't know if I can I don't know if I can go that. We see, I don't have the same relationship with Coach Franklin as I do with Coach Drink, So gotcha. Maybe A part of me would like to take Miszoo next week. We'll see what the lion is. We'll see where we're at.

01:05:23
Speaker 3: Do you want to better ahead of time?

01:05:25
Speaker 1: Do we know what it is?

01:05:26
Speaker 3: I have no idea.

01:05:27
Speaker 1: We'll have to hit up FanDuel. They probably have it. It's not on there. Yeah, I don't think it's not. This game's gotta happen, man, This game, this game with Vandy Alabama's got a.

01:05:36
Speaker 5: Going back to what Josh is saying, like how Vandy hasn't had this spotlight. When was the last time Game Day went to a Vandy game?

01:05:45
Speaker 1: I think JP was saying earlier this week. The last time we started five and o was what two thousand and eight? They ended up seven and five eight? What happened? Massive real estate crash?

01:05:58
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, election year of vannabel keeps winning.

01:06:03
Speaker 1: Our economy could be fucked something think about.

01:06:06
Speaker 5: Also for the Miszoo Alabama game, I guess the line is out. It's Alabama minus six and a half.

01:06:10
Speaker 3: Right now, there's six and a half. Again, six and a half. There's that six and a half.

01:06:15
Speaker 1: Six seven and a half.

01:06:17
Speaker 3: That's what this dude's name is. That is mister six and a half.

01:06:21
Speaker 1: Give them back. There you dog dog of the week or we oh yeah yeah. I was ready to say, hey, great show today because I'm juiced about these games. Dog of the week. I got a bitch made dog of the week.

01:06:29
Speaker 2: I'm taking Iowa State money line against Cincinnati that the line is won and happens.

01:06:34
Speaker 3: Yeah.

01:06:34
Speaker 2: But I love Rockebeck, I love Matt Campbell. I think Cincinnati is fantastic. But this is this is honestly the line has it like it's this is kind of a pick. I'm like, this is an exciting game. Yeah, Cincinnati can really put themselves, like in the conversation for a big toal contender. If you take down Iowa State, who's handled their business thus.

01:06:52
Speaker 3: Far, down two corners, now Cincinnati, No, Iowa State down two corners for the year.

01:06:59
Speaker 2: Well their quarter, I can't wait throw it.

01:07:01
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, so so we can throw the ball, bro Sos, we can throw the rock. Man, I'm telling that the p f F luck stat says Sores be number one in the country throwing just pure luck. Yeah, it's all pure luck.

01:07:21
Speaker 1: That guy who needs to go to Vegas, he's been slinging the rock. Obviously he didn't against Nebraska. But honestly, watching I know that's the game I watched. I know don't need to watch an the others. When the games that close with your Huskers, where you think, all right, this shouldn't have been as close as it was. It's made me keep an eye on Cincinnati. And that's where it's like, okay, seems to be like a pretty good foot Why Cincinnati played Nebraska. No yeah, I watched that guy Kansas last week.

01:07:50
Speaker 2: No yeah, Muffins, give me out with Staate rock Obec way better quarter.

01:08:01
Speaker 1: Listen, I'm just going I'm going fran Brown here got their ass off against Duke. I'm sure he had all those boys sitting in a sauna as a team together for all of sixty minutes. Give me Syracuse plus seventeen and a half. You know at SMU, that's the only scary parties are going to have to travel. But you know, and a half point oil money SMO.

01:08:18
Speaker 3: I would like to ask why Maryland is getting six and a half at home against a Washington team traveling cross country.

01:08:25
Speaker 1: I saw that you had that pick in there. I was bummed I didn't get to jump on it, but I do like that.

01:08:29
Speaker 3: Pick, like coast to coast. Washington was terrible on the road last year. They really haven't had to go on the road coast to coast this year. Yet there's a noted struggle amongst Big Ten teams in general doing that cross country stuff except for Oregon. I'm gonna take Maryland plus six and a half. They could win the game out right, and I'm not like low on Washington. I just think it's a really weird spot. Maryland's playing halfway decent football too, got a pretty good quarterback. I love getting any points with them in this game.

01:08:57
Speaker 1: The part of me almost took Cal dogs at home against Duke, just because Duke's got to travel across the count You after winning.

01:09:06
Speaker 3: Third, you know, after beating the Boston College and the hell out of was.

01:09:09
Speaker 1: It buscous or?

01:09:10
Speaker 3: We got to win twenty eight to twenty four over BC last week?

01:09:13
Speaker 1: And then I saw Cal put up a zero burger against somebody in San Diego State Before are they going to be able to just DIRECTI fight it all though it's Model love Col last week, Model love Cal, Yeah, didn't take it. How does the model feel about Cal this week?

01:09:26
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01:09:59
Speaker 2: Illinois might as not and a half first Purdue Nebraska minus eleven and a half.

01:10:02
Speaker 3: It's Purdue, it is, Yeah, but a massive get.

01:10:07
Speaker 1: Back win against US, massive, massive storm the field, storm the field, we were there. That's a little sleeper. Is that USC showing their true colors? Or is that the travel?

01:10:19
Speaker 3: Maybe both? Maybe that's just maybe they're just not ready for big time yet. Yeah, Shane, I think wake Forest is that's a lie. They're not. But they're going to Virginia Tech and they're getting six and a half. We all know what the most dangerous number in embedding in the modern era is in this society. It is six and a half, so I believe in him. Therefore I'm not laying the points. I am taking the points with Wake, who got absolutely jobbed out of a win last week against Georgia Tech. I'm told ACC officials will be on this one again. But you want to talk about get back, it's get back for Wake, It's get back for ACC officiating. I need him to get all the breaks. I love Wait plus six and a half.

01:10:56
Speaker 1: And it's like, what since the firing v. Tech is two and o? Luck right, this is where this is where it starts to balance out. They had their two wins, Wake Force is in a getback spot, and I think, so, yeah, obviously I'm taking the Huskers.

01:11:10
Speaker 2: So can we talk about your pick for a second. Bet the bus slips and picks this show last year, anytime Huster's got into a bad spot, I tend to see Huskers more on will conference card. So by you picking Nebraska minus eleven and a half, it makes me more nervous about this game than if you didn't pick them. Yeah, what I'm hearing is you're talking about the past. This is a different b about history. It tends to repeat itself. I get worried with my boy when he's he sees Michigan State built.

01:11:48
Speaker 1: Right quarterback, not right, my fault. This should be Nebraska minus sixteen and a half.

01:11:53
Speaker 3: Oh, let's move the line's.

01:11:56
Speaker 1: Bakers are all my points. These are all my points. Go ahead, come on in play Matthew's friend of.

01:12:00
Speaker 3: The show studio audience.

01:12:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you on that, though. We'll be betting Nebraska minus eleven and a half. I just get nervous when I see you bringing on the show, because anytime you bring a Braska on the show.

01:12:10
Speaker 1: I know. But like I'm sitting here looking at all these other games because we've we've talked about all the really good ones, and then you're looking at dogs and everything else, and there just wasn't like Nebraska to me. It's like, okay, I know this game. I feel very comfortable picking this game. Like there wasn't any that were like jumping out of me that I needed to get on.

01:12:27
Speaker 3: You can't live in the review. You got to live in the windshield.

01:12:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, and what again? You watch the president issue. That's the problem. That's what I'm talking about. The review. I look back and I see that's the same thing in my windshield.

01:12:39
Speaker 3: Carnage.

01:12:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a different belief right now. You're bald because your beliefs. I don't care.

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