2 Chainz talks NEW BOOK, Atlanta's hip hop legacy & WILD Jay-Z story

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Speaker 1: It's right here.

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Speaker 2: Something told me, Something told me to come to the Joe and say, when I come to New York, I got to figure out a way to come rock with Joe and Jada. Kudiz my guy, Yo, what up y'artist is Joe cracked the Dawn?

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Speaker 1: This is your boy, Jada.

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Speaker 3: You know what it is that Joe and Jada show every show legendary, every show iconic.

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Speaker 1: P you see, my man got the links on. We crush damn your lover. I got my brother nay Den in the i'mnna bring Nadan in like two bold out It's guests. When you think of today's guests, you gotta think of the.

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Speaker 3: South, you know what I mean. You gotta think of Atlantans. You gotta think of balls. You gotta think of swag. You gotta think of basketball. You gotta think of very family oriented even got mama love in the building. You gotta think of a great businessman. Gotta think of somebody that does stuff for the community annually, yearly.

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Speaker 1: Baily. You gotta think of.

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Speaker 3: Someone who was able to overcome adversity, came in as a member of group, bought his soulf out of his contract, came back solo tuct taped itself to a rocket ship and took over.

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Speaker 1: The work Ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 3: Make some noise for my brother to Chad to Jun, what's up player, what's something?

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Speaker 1: My brother A that's right, man, Man, that shit is so prestigious to me. I tell him every time. Every time I go to Atlanta, I feel like home, you know. And you're a leegend. Huh. I thought you was gonna say the restaur runs. I love everything about the A. I love everything about the A And the fact you didn't buy a house dead back in the day when I was supposed to. I was supposed to buy a house that like, I was like Miami Atlanta. You know what I'm saying, I owe to Miami twenty three for I ain't having like maybe I did. I wasn't. That's I'm a ghetto dude with some money. You know what I'm saying. I take baby steps, you know what I'm saying. Sometimes I was pulling the tricky sometimes I wasn't. But I love Atlanta. Uh, you're major fixture in Atlanta. What's it like coming from Atlanta from day one? How many years you've been rapping?

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Speaker 4: Now and.

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Speaker 1: In your career and you've seen so many people blow up from Atlanta or before you. What's that like being from that, It's being from the city.

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Speaker 2: I was able to see it eball go through many eras, go through heavy, base driven heavy maybe dance driven to the trap to you know, all the different errors, but they all still very much remain in today's music. Parts of it, like DNA from it and just having Atlanta as your landscape coming up. I think builds resilience and also gives you discipline, and you gotta be able to adapt, you know what I'm saying Coming from Atlanta, Like it's just any given day, these situations are changed, So I think adapt building. How am I trying to say? Being able to adapt? It's like an advantage coming from Atlanta. You know, once you leave the city, you're able to take those the skill sets that.

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Speaker 1: You learned in the city and just apply to every room.

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Speaker 2: Know I have, so every room a man is still like Atlanta's there with me.

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Speaker 1: That's that's the energy that I'm always holding on. We are from there, so we always I've always seen unity in Atlanta. That's how I've always felt, always felt like these guys stick together. They push each other, they work with each other, they support each other. Tell me about the unity coming up in Atlanta? You know what's that about?

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Speaker 2: Collaborating is always like a good idea in the city, not just in music, but in business too. I think we're all open to working together in some sort of way, and that removes a lot of the pocket watching and the jealousy that you will see in other areas because of the fact that we are open to share LLC's or share.

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Speaker 1: A micael.

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Speaker 2: So, you know, music is just an extension of the energy that the city has as far as working together and being you know, being collaborative.

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Speaker 3: How do you feel after duffel back boys? For those that don't know how long you've been on a grizzly doing your one two, It seemed like right after that the elevator was stuck on the up fleet.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Man, just man my commitment and my resilience. Man, I'm self motivated, you know, like you can't you can't can't buy the motivation. You can't buy ambition, you know what I'm saying. So through my self evaluation, Man, I get up and I just got that energy like I'm him, and I can just reach heights, and.

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Speaker 1: Early on I was one of those. I was one of those that was arrogant.

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Speaker 2: Before I got in the game, I used to look at everybody in the game, look at you know, all my peers, and be like, I can.

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Speaker 1: Get with this person, I can get with this.

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Speaker 2: As soon as I got in the game, I started, I became more humble because I saw like that the arrogant people, how they're how they're percientagy how I kind of played out over time, like the arrogant on the way up they rubbed people the wrong way, and then on the way down people don't care much about them because they remember how you made them feel. And so I kind of damn my arrogance once I got in the game, But it's still very much internal, you know what I mean. And when I got in, I just had so much to prove and to not just everybody else, but to myself, you know what I mean. I just I ask people all the time, like you knew you was gonna beat it? Like people that sat not shoo, Like when did you know you was going to be a rub? Because I felt like I was going to be something. I always knew I was going to be something you know what I mean. And I always knew I was gonna be successful. And that's kind of like what some of my book is in that came like I got this like inner monologue. I got this this divine guidance that like navigate. It's like my navigation. It just it just leads me to success.

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Speaker 3: Man being on the book, the voice in my head is God, Yeah, what a title.

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Speaker 1: Was amazing. I ain't tact boys, it's Captain vic. Could you hear God?

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Speaker 2: Well, that's what I'm trying to tell you. If you ever said something told me, you know what I'm saying. Something told me to call my man's up here to get this whatever. Something told me that this guy wasn't good. Something told me or something told me a million times. That's that's it. That's something, is it? I did I did it. I'm I'm the I'm the guinea pig for this. I don't listen to this book. When I ain't listened, I done had different outcomes. When I've listened, I just been you know what I'm saying. It's just been like it. And it's the thing is, it's not like a loud voice, but it's clear it's telling you man, Joe, stay your ass in the house. It's saying, hey, kids, Man, don't even answer the phone or make sure you answer the phone. You know what I'm saying, You missed that call your HOMEI texts you from from prison.

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Speaker 1: Man, it's such a something. Man. Something told me I don't answer calls. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Man, something told me I should have answered the call. You know, I do miss my whatever that is. So I'm in the book just using examples of how that that is God. The title the voice is my conscience, intuition, think, intuition, good feeling. You know what I'm saying, good feeling. Some told me to get out of here. Something's time to go. I'm one of those people that just leave places. I'm really one of those people. I'm rolling for Good's time to go. Just something, just tell me it's trying to go. Like they don't mess.

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Speaker 1: Somebody's been to shoot up. It's good. They just be like but it just it just means like, yeah.

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Speaker 2: So when I'm putting something out to the world, this is like something from my community to try to tell a player like it's okay to like hush down a noise and listen to that voice.

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Speaker 1: And actually believe it.

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Speaker 2: Like the voice is like it warns you before it I mean, it comes before trauma, ego, fear, any of that stuff, right, But you can't see what it's trying to So you got to kind of have faith on like whatever it's trying to tell you, right cause it's like, hey, I'm telling you keep straight, but you don't know why it's telling you to keep straight instead of turning left, you know what I mean? And I'm really I tell you I have this voice, and I almost feel like like, man, people ask me black, but are you always coming up with something?

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Speaker 1: How you come up with this stuff?

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Speaker 2: Like now I'm just going to tell people in the book, like this is really how I've been operating so long. It's almost like a secret. It's not a secret, but this is how I've been moving. Whether you believe it operating those terms or not. But I have this this complish, this internal confisce that helps me make decisions daily from business decisions to w I'm aware everything, bro.

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Speaker 1: You know when it happens to me? Well, for years I didn't know God was sending me messages and stuff like that. And then once I noticed that whenever I can't sleep because I can sleep anyway. Shit would be I'm sleeping when I can't sleep.

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Speaker 2: Now, I know I've been through it enough that now I be like, all right, God, what you're.

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Speaker 1: Trying to tell me? Yeah, so I start thinking that everything, and then that's how I come up with like a plan, whether it's business, life, family, whatever, when I can't sleep. Now I'll be like, all right, what you're trying to say? Because you know I know I can't sleep. Could you try and let me know something?

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Speaker 2: And then you're going over it with yourself internally, you know what I'm saying, And I think that's just a message I'm trying to I'm trying to put out like you have to have experience. You have to go through life to know like this means something. You have to not sleep for so many nights before you realize like this is God trying to speak to me. So that's what this book you have to I could have wrote this book when I was twenty thirty.

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Speaker 1: You have to live long enough, you know. Yeah. Yeah, let me ask some more questions people so selfish, right, what made you share this in your book with the world and let people know what you know? What's your secret to success, your drive to success? What made you share with the world, Because a lot of people I'll tell you my story about it, kiss heard it a hundred times, but I'll tell you my flip side of the story. Get but but what made you say y'all gonna share this with the world.

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking legacy leaving something behind, some type of letters that's not just an autobiography or anything like that. Like something real, that has substance, something that shows growth to the evolution, you know, something that speaks to an audience.

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Speaker 1: Outside of hip hop as well.

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Speaker 2: When you speak about intuition, they sa ain't just about no bars or about.

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Speaker 1: What after part of the show up to. This is bigger than that.

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Speaker 2: So when I talk about intuition, I talk about it like it's like a sixth sense.

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Speaker 1: It's a real superpower for me.

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Speaker 2: Like you know what I'm saying, I'm not going back and forth with something that's inside of me. They telling you this whole time, boy, God is in you. God is the bliss is coming from within. You done got all these hints. You're the manreneer.

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Speaker 1: What a mirror is? It's the God in me? And I reciss the God, it's the God in me, I said, I keep hearing marry yet, Yeah, it's crazy.

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Speaker 3: I was reading some excerpt from the book, and I've seen you say in twenty twelve All Star, you already felt like him before you got in the gym, but once you got in there and you got the love was in abundance. And you went to your seat, which was a little couple of twenty rollers up like screw that man, I'm gonna work my way down course signed and just got more love for.

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Speaker 1: Mary and people like that didn't. So I understand got intuition, that confidence. So you said one day I'm gonna get there, or you just went down. No, you had tickets. I was up, but you wasn't going.

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Speaker 2: I said, next, you before with three or four men, I don't squeeze between. I donetdone all type of stuff, befolk, this is really what happened, dude.

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Speaker 1: You're your son, Mama. Listen, bro I went, I went to All Stars, A.

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Speaker 2: Funny dude, I did something hung out would have mad all started things he be saying in that Listen. I went to the All Star one year and one of my homebies this disrespect the young lady that worked for the yes and you know what I mean. So you know that trinkle down to me. So what what connection I used to have was almost like I had to start figuring things out on my own. But I really love the game. I really love basketball so much that I go and just figured it out. So this is one time I went, I'm up and you know, you just know you don't even supposed to be up here, Like I know, like Ian, like I'm being ambitious. I'm either done soul some weed to some of these rappers. I actually done done verses and songs with them. Boy, I done just got up. You know security, be let me get you, Let me get you. I tell everybody, if you act like he's supposed to be there, man, you get to you get to looking at them folk like they trying you, they disrespecting you, asking for some you know or lamb boy, I get to walk and do what you do.

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Speaker 1: You don't be looking them.

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Speaker 2: All in the eyes and say you just you know what I'm saying, because see this is my other take. Anytime you Bryan and you see twell, you look twell right in the eyes. You finished, you about to get whipped over. Man, Well if you don't look at him, help pull you over to they like, no, no, no, no. If you don't when you're not a criminal, you don't care about the police. You don't care only people that's criminally. We're the only one do all kind of old little ship that they trying to I'm telling you right up on, I'm telling you motherfucker's look in the mirror and all that ship. That's that's why you're don't posed to listen, man, you sposed to not even stunn them.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: So that's how I'm with knowing I'm supposed to be somewhere, I ain't even I'm just so, I'm just telling the business. But yeah, those dean in the bed of building, Daniels lever come in they dean man, the man, the man the store.

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Speaker 1: No no, no, we got it. But I mean.

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Speaker 2: Go to that store and he gotta pluy got he got to plug the informious Daniels for your ass coming down here.

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Speaker 1: If I said I'm gonna need something over there, that's a long time for the way to cross. Now across a crossing all.

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Speaker 2: My paths and bad man, I'm gonna need that in a tony size you did you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Give him a life long before. But I'm coming on and you kid talking about before past.

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Speaker 2: This ain't about Hey listen, with his height, she's gonna be she's gonna be flail.

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Speaker 1: You know. I don't have to do much, but with that height. He over here. Yeah, I'm sitting with the Mall Star and he talking ship about the basketball players. Ye had you asked some mo Pasaki ship. Only Kanye wore some ship. You was like, you see this Pasaki ship jump them, motherfucker seven foot they but they had this Pasachi ship.

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Speaker 2: Well no, no, no, no, no, no nothing. I'm gonna tell you no none. Let me them become clean. I feel like I'm the reason why brands start making ship for who who used to see me and be.

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Speaker 1: Like, hey, Charlotte, what size? Shoot you up?

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Speaker 2: Because I'm having on something. Just you know what I'm saying, I'm having on and they see me. I'm a real true six five, I'm an NBA point guard side you get what I'm saying. So when they see me having it on, I believe it is my belief that early on, when they started caring about dressing, they didn't used to care about dressing, bro basketball player. Didn't used to care about dressing. But like you see somebody tall light can put it on, you know what I mean? Then I think you know you were super tall guys. You all talked the same shit, like cause Drake for cooling Drake. He'd be like, you know six seven, I jump out the Rose Royce. They automatically know Ball. I'm like, yo, they always got that same monologue, Breck, let me tell you something, Yo, to change you bunked out.

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Speaker 1: But I thought I was the only one that thowt shit like that in my head, Like when I wear that shit, I'd be like, yo, I got him.

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Speaker 2: But you were speaking it out loud. The voice in you was out war. Well, sometimes that's when they get the same man. You must you got imaginary friends. You're talking to yourself, so that's when they get like that. But for the most part, most part, Joe, you you care too much not to talk to yourself. And you know you you really give a funk about your your parents. So I know in your heir you like, oh yeah, I'm gonna go pink on it. I'm coming to kill I'm going I'm.

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Speaker 1: Still right for him. Every little detail, yea, even the code that he's winning. He chose the zipper. We had to find the zipper and this slider. He was so specific about.

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Speaker 2: How about, what's the first thing I say when I say the What's the first thing I said.

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Speaker 1: About the zipper? I know you talked about the zipp. Yeah, the the zipper. Can't buy a super expensive coat and cheat zipper on your ship. Gotta be quality. That's that's not well. You can't wear fucking lin and the whole team running trying to find the gotta be like this and all that ship. You know, people try to cut corners man, and and do like cheap ship. I'm not listen. I ain't into the cheap ship man in the corner. You know, I ain't has ship. You know what I'm saying. I don't want to curse too much in front of your Mom's just off the camera. But I didn't have nothing. So I tell these guys all the time, I had nothing. That was a bum had nothing. He's kids, you're out of here. When I was a little kid running around in elementary, the teachers was looking at me like, yo, this nigga going to jail.

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Speaker 5: He dying. You heard no, you hurt this one. It's a rerun every showed, it's a rerun. That's why that you never forget. When you forget, I don't, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I wake up. Goodbye your projects. Now I walk.

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Speaker 2: Around my house and I look at the eye Mama, look at the light bulb, and like, yo, we got these light bulbs.

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Speaker 1: This shit crazy? You believe we got this light bulb? Like, Yo, we ain't had nothing. You ain't trying to guess you didn't have the light boat. Now, I think I'm gonna do ancestry dot Com just to really really bring out the proof of how we ain't have ship for like three four hundred years.

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Speaker 2: I'm a man, I'm gonna bust out the whole jeneration. By the way, by the way, Yo, cousin Tito wasn't ship. Cousin Pobno wasn't ship yo. Listen, listen, listen, Auntie Miriel, listen, listen listen this one. I ain't doing no book, My love you, this this ship. This, This is why my book not an autobiography, because Rapp was gone gonna go three hundred years to let you know how bad it was for him.

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Speaker 1: I ain't want to compete with this struggle.

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Speaker 2: With like how bad it was. I ain't want to compete with another. You read another that man, you had a bad you read you read brush ship brush. He's slept in a light bulb. Yeah, he didn't even have light bulbs. Like, who's gonna beat that? Like I tell you my struggle. And then Joe saying, we got the we got the light switch, we got the crib no light, but we ain't got no light bulb.

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Speaker 1: But if we had a light bulb, we have light, we'll be good. You know what to my apartment in the projects, And I'm gonna be honest with you. Rest in peace, my dad. I cannot believe that he stood for that ship. I just and my father's always been a hallworker. He probably just too scared to buy a house or some ship like that. Well he died and left me a couple of dollars. My father's not no bump. But I just couldn't believe when I went there, your height went for this ship.

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Speaker 2: How he had his kids in there, how he had his fucking wife in here. This was some bullshit.

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Speaker 1: Even if I was fucked up and I was a baker mechanic, I'd have got my ass out of that ship.

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Speaker 2: If you don't know nothing, that's a grown man. As a kid, I ain't know no better. I'm looking at the ship out. You don't hear what when I got grown and sort that shit? I said, no man, you're only one. That's your pops to have your frame of mind. Now back then with the money.

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Speaker 1: That was, you got to think about it like broke. He can do Yeah, that's shit crazy though I can't do it.

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Speaker 2: My mama told me I like like she don't know where I got this thinking from, Like like why I want a big house, she said, like when she was young, like people around her like having want a trailer was like I think your own trailer was a big thing.

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Speaker 1: So for some Mama, I'm not gonna lie. I need you here, Mama, come here for a second, please, or sit right there, give it this day. They won't you closer to me, She'll be better. Right. Here's the only second mother we got. Alan Ovison's mother was the first one to James Marks, the second mine. Baby, Come on here, baby, i'ma got that ship on too. Let me tell you tell mom, Let me tell mama. Got the full link?

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Speaker 2: He am add you say, how come in with the full link?

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Speaker 1: Meet motherfucker.

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Speaker 2: Now you're gonna need a We're gonna need a different color the same length for her.

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Speaker 1: Yes, see, sir, no problem. You heard him? Now, you don't A lot of women like this stand up. He don't.

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Speaker 2: He's an honorable man. Mama, mommy say he love of the biggest in the game. Mama, mama, you go back? How many years are your how many years can you can? Can you go back in your family? Like can you think as far as your grand Can you go to your great grandfather?

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Speaker 8: I can go to my grandmother and grandfather.

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Speaker 1: So you go back to your grandfather. Anybody thought like your son.

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Speaker 8: No, No, he was different. Then he's smart, he's caring, and he's compassionate. And he been the only child, and I really didn't want any children, to be honest, and then I thought, well, I want to see what my office.

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Speaker 1: Ring would be like.

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Speaker 8: So I did conceive and had him and didn't want anymore. And he's kind of been self sufficient.

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Speaker 1: Even at Bird. You know, there was no problems.

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Speaker 8: He was the first kid to go to the all white private school and mcgrange'e at the age of four, on account of his birthday came in September and back then we went to school in August. But your birthday came as a registration, So we're trying to leave you behind if we had left you there, so we had to move you to the private school.

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Speaker 1: So you could stay ahead.

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Speaker 8: And he's been like as long as he had the good old boy guitar and the games pac Man games that he had, and his tricycle that he didn't want to give up for a bicycle. He didn't want that. But and he had a father. His father was very nurturing and trainable. He you know, taught him a lot at the early age, like trying to have him drive at how were you driving over the projects driving the car? And he's he's just been He's smart. I love him.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Mom, we did be a good You did because I liked it. You know when when I look at guys like to chains and kids and me and stuff like that. Yeah, we might have had great families, great upbringings or whatever the case, but there's something in the mentality of entrepreneurs. You know, go getters won't stop at nothing, you know. And we're talking about this family lineage and and you was right there. So I said, Yo, let me ask you if because you know, they think I'm bugging out when I'd be like, yo, I could think back into my family as far as I could go. Wasn't nobody really thinking like me? You know? So it was like I'm trying to figure this out like the DNA of an artist or something.

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Speaker 2: Or it's evolution, man, it's it's it's evolution, and it's inevitable for hopefully your bloodline to grow into something, you know what I mean. And it takes your ancestors to build you up to that. But I think eventually you give birth to something that breaks whatever curse they came before that, you know what I'm saying, that becomes the first entrepreneur. Well I'm not the first entrepreneur, but the first millionaire or whatever that is. You know, I think that's an everybody family, man, everybody. It was only a small amount of people that never struggle. Like I just I just I just know we all were a part of the struggle. Like I just know we all were.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: But we're doing a great job of not letting not letting it happen again, like moving forward. I know we all have kids that we just pour so much into, you know what I mean, Like for a fact, everybody don't here, you know what I'm saying, we just everybody know we care about our kids.

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Speaker 1: Brother. It's just like, so what are you most proud of your son? Family? Man that the foster gradulate. You see your daughter too, she just got accepted right too. Yeah, my daughter's headed to college. Help.

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Speaker 2: She on a senior trip right now, man, And I'm just need you to come home because she went They went to Mexico, and I did not want her to go to Mexico. I did not want her to go to Mexico. But you know, sometimes the media because she having fun. She ain't thinking a bit about what's going on, you know what I mean. But I'm just like, I'm just being that parent. It's like, man, all right, you straight, everything cool, but they having a good time. And then I got the middle. I have three kids. My middle child is thirteen about have been in high school. And then like a lot of people know my son, Hey, look because we got a podcast together and he's ten years old, and that's why. That's that's it, man, It's just like my little little Brady bunch for real.

00:30:13
Speaker 1: The new Tribe. I'm the same way with my daughter. You know what I'm saying, product, I ain't plugging she got a podcast called as If y'all want to check out out on YouTube. But I'm the same way, and i've been and I've been like looking at the house, I've been thinking like ahead, I've been like, Yo, one day, this girl gonna get married, Like she's not gonna be here forever. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. That's crazy when you think about that. You know what I'm saying, because you like, Yo, she's gonna leave one day like that shit crazed, like house won't be the same without.

00:30:46
Speaker 2: I's won't be the same without the kids. But you know, I think we all you know, you've heard that there's no man you want to teach you how to be a parent. But I think y'all did the best. We cook what we had. And you know, I know my mom did an amazing job with me being a single mother, coming from the household. You know what I'm saying, being joined by the hill, you know what I mean. You know what I'm saying, just staying down just and she just knows that I'm an ambitious person and I got that hustle, I got that grit, and it's just really unexplainable. It's like for real like being like it's like being raised by wolves. Just know how to I keep saying it. Just got to know how to adapt, man, And I think that's one of my superpowers. You're doing a book tour for the book. Yeah, I'm doing a book tour. I've been in New York a couple of days, running around dropping some gems about why now you know what I'm saying, And what's the book about?

00:31:50
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

00:31:50
Speaker 2: And even this right here just it just like it's just another way for me to be creative.

00:31:55
Speaker 1: Man.

00:31:55
Speaker 2: It's almost it almost feels like I'm dropping a project, right but like even this cover it's pasteir art done by an artist I found. His name is Teres Walker. He's an artist. He's like an independent artist, not a part of the gallery. But I'm gonna plug hi because her brother and he got so. This is a drawing of me.

00:32:13
Speaker 1: It's not a real picture. This is a drawing. Fire.

00:32:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just everything I do fire, Joe. Let me tell you what else fire about this book? Let me tell you what us but let me tell you what else. Let me tell you what else is fire? If you know how to reader understand, it's a lot going on at the Rappists.

00:32:28
Speaker 1: Can't read listen listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen.

00:32:31
Speaker 2: No, I was only just want to get get into I did my audio book. It's in my words. It's five. Let me tell you why it's fire. I'm finna kid the audio book. I got production. It's scoring. So when I'm reading certain parts of the book, you get to hear the scene in the background of the audio. I'm just at over at the other station I had. I had to do Miss. I had to do Gail King this morning. Y'all you know I'm on platform. I'm Tony right. I had to do stuff like that. He look old white ladies say, I just listened to the audio.

00:33:12
Speaker 1: She said, it's amazing. She said, it's amazing. Joe, she said, ye like, she said, I had noise and stuff going on in And that's just the mind. I have layers.

00:33:24
Speaker 2: I think in layers, and so this book the voice in my head is God is just me. My my interpretation of this of youth, of someone saying something told me it's right here. Something told me, something told me to come to the Joe and say, when I come to New York, I got to figure out a way to come rock with Joe and Jada. Couldiz My guys be.

00:33:46
Speaker 1: Honest with you. None of the mother Gail Kings and all of them don't matter. It's once you come on this couch that mattered.

00:33:51
Speaker 9: These other guys playing yourself now, I just want to waste some life day like these people ga't got ship movement like us.

00:34:02
Speaker 1: We got the most.

00:34:04
Speaker 2: I'm going, I'm here. You're like I didn't come here. You're like you say it. You're like I didn't feel you. You're like you said and I ain't feel I know you.

00:34:12
Speaker 1: Why I was this? You know that I'm here to talk to you. Irritate the competition. You doing that? Y'all New York niggas man were on that bullshit. Man. We up mean, like, let me tell you something. We got to do it. Do it all the time. These guys, Joe and Jadas Show dot com.

00:34:31
Speaker 6: We got new first, fresh off the presents.

00:34:34
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00:34:45
Speaker 2: I need the extra.

00:34:46
Speaker 1: Large showing Jadenshow dot com. Go there and get it. I was young the Lord how about that number one.

00:34:59
Speaker 3: But Dad from the book, he turned down hole. He wouldn't get his man. His DJ asked your flight, he turned the whole meeting. That's not that's what that's that might have not been the right thing. Man turning down a hole.

00:35:15
Speaker 1: That's not true. Man, It's not everything happens for a Reese. No, this is this.

00:35:21
Speaker 2: I hate to quit bringing the man name up because I have other contexts and other things to talk about.

00:35:28
Speaker 1: But it is.

00:35:28
Speaker 2: But let me just talk about let me, let me just tell you about this. It's a chapter here called j D and jay Z on Three Ways. So I got a call one day I read that. Yeah, so I got a call one day with JD on the phone, and I guess him in the whole we're about to do a partnership, right all right. My man that I'm with right now in the corner, right now, his name is Tech. His name used to be DJ Techniques.

00:35:52
Speaker 1: Right.

00:35:53
Speaker 2: So, when I first started piping up in the streets, Tech came to me and said, hey, man, I think you're I said, nigga, me too. You know what I'm saying, And he said, I feel like I can do whooped dee whooped the woo with my resources and blah blah blah, and I said, man, if you can run up, if you can help me get that right there, then I'm locked in with and we shook hands. Fast forward like eight nine months later, I'm piped up, I'm moving around. Okay, he's really not a DJ anymore because he's taking more of a management role, right, He's not a DJ. And so when I get this call during the phone conversation, I'm just trying to and I don't know why. I can't even articulate this that I wanted to bring him with me. They thinking it's a DJ because I'm trying to say his name. But JAD really don't even know what this is because it wasn't like he just tapped into Atlanta like that at the particular time. You know what I'm saying, it's like an Atlanta DJ, you know what I mean? And so they're like, bro, what do you They probably in retrospect it probably I probably sound crazy. I probably sound stupid saying I'm gonna bring my DJ to it me like, bro, you don't have no show. But I wasn't trying to do that. I was trying to bring my man who had said, Man, I see some in you. I had already seen some in me, but I just told you how arrogant I was. I used to be frustrated cause I'm like, why this ain't happening for me? You know what I mean? And it's really about you getting your internal team. Once you get a team together, things can flourish. So once I got my team, I started getting on everybody's radar. So when that call happened, and whatever happened throughout the call, I didn't and I didn't go. I talk about it in the book because people ask me like, what would the head was the voice telling you to do?

00:37:45
Speaker 1: Then when big.

00:37:46
Speaker 2: Homie call, you know what I'm saying With Big Homie call and the thing I tell somebody like at that particular time, I'm moral accomplished, just saying I ain't want to lead dog and say I'm gonna tell you about the me and I can't sit here and tell you I ain't want to fuck with doll or don't want to do business with all.

00:38:05
Speaker 1: I've seen the track record. I'm not I'm not ignorant.

00:38:08
Speaker 2: I'm highly intellectual actually, But during that particular time, my compass is saying. And so that's another reason why I tell DJs like cal Itt or Drama or him, you need to take the DJ ship off your name. Niggas think that's your first name, So take that off your name.

00:38:24
Speaker 1: I got a boy named Rich the Barber used to be a barber. He's rich as fucked right now, and we still call him Rich the Barber. But he'd be like, yo, I'm not bobbing, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. But anyway, so that's the story. It was no, it was not nice, a miscommunication of miss miss. They received it because I was excited.

00:38:42
Speaker 2: I was definitely excited about the car and I was excited to you know, but this is before you know, the album, This is before all the stuff.

00:38:49
Speaker 1: You know. I can't say everything that I've done is right or wrong.

00:38:54
Speaker 2: This is just like part of it, just a part of my life, you know what I'm saying, And so may obstacles to go through and to me, even when you fall, it's just a lesson.

00:39:08
Speaker 1: You gotta look at the lesson. Everything will go your way. You got to look at the lesson. These lawyers right now they killing me. Beat these prices is all the way off these yesterday price and I'm just like, Yo, Joe's temporary, temporary, keep it, keep your head up and keep it moving because certain things happen to you. Will you be like at that moment, you could be frustrated, but then you just got to look at it and be like, Yo, there's a lesson. Everything's a lesson. So it's like it is what it is. I wish you would have went to tea, but you know, you never know, don how did the Kanye the Kanye? Because to me, that was some of your worst You're not worth your best work with that whole good family, That's what happened sometimes. No, no, I'm bugged out. I'm not. I'm I'm fried. But what I mean is I love how you was going crazy on that Kanye work. When y'all put that album out together. You were you was going nuts on the more on one that joint right there. How did that whole thing come about with you like y'all had like a super power team push your all of y'all with meet Sean.

00:40:22
Speaker 2: But you know you ain't calling me. I'm telling you, I'm so piped up these folks calling me. You know what I'm saying.

00:40:27
Speaker 1: And you said y'all want you to be a member of I'm calling y'all want.

00:40:31
Speaker 2: You to I don't you know what I mean? I went through like a love I won't even call it a book camp. Like you know what I'm saying.

00:40:36
Speaker 1: At home?

00:40:37
Speaker 2: Might want somebody to record something now and I'm fire like that. I call it Benny Hunters. I call it like cooking in front of niggas, the little showing stripping niggas. My house and ship. I do all that, Yeah, I do. I do the whole heartbeat ship.

00:40:52
Speaker 1: I do. I cook, I love, you know what I mean.

00:40:53
Speaker 2: So so so you want to tell me that, you want to tell me like, let's do a song in front of these people?

00:40:59
Speaker 1: Like, that's right, that's one of my that's one of my things. I'm prepared. I'm bootstrapped ready.

00:41:03
Speaker 2: So after I did that a few times, and the stuff I'm doing high level, it's not like you know what I'm saying, No bootfo les, real high level. You know what I mean, no cut on it. So after you do that a few times, man, you might get you might get a few phone calls.

00:41:17
Speaker 1: Joe.

00:41:17
Speaker 10: That's all I can tell you, Joe. He any phone might start biting Joe get here with this guy all the time. He top five did or alive that? But you mean nasty man. Guys they be like, Yo, can I get your number?

00:41:28
Speaker 1: Kiss?

00:41:29
Speaker 2: I need you on a song. No nobody asks me to be on a song. I'm gonna just say it be rich at fuck my liquage. That's all I gonna do. Every time they come to him your kiss, I want to do a song with you and be like, Yo, did you see the leaps?

00:41:43
Speaker 1: No?

00:41:45
Speaker 2: No, no, Joe, you getting as Joe. Let me tell you something man, You're I'm gonna tell you this right here. Man, you let me tell you something.

00:41:53
Speaker 1: Man.

00:41:54
Speaker 2: You you made wonderful song man. You're you're a great song maker. Bro, I'm gonna come when it comes to my topped the bottom like a song for a song. You do that ship, that's like, that's what you like? You fire change nobody gives me. Yeah, you know you're a good song man. You ain't gonna play every show.

00:42:13
Speaker 1: You don't get nick game with him every rapping, Yo, son, I need you on now.

00:42:18
Speaker 2: But he liked that though me like I'm chop l no, no going out the fuck because he rags it it's out the park.

00:42:28
Speaker 1: The nigga boo. That's a boogie like school. No no, no, no, no, man, you you don't got boogie you the boogie uncle boo. Bring one more surprise. Guests. Got nothing to do with you. But I was coming up and I seen him, and I said, your brother, come to my brother, g DAP come come here for a second, GDP Deputy fall hims G Let's get mom.

00:42:52
Speaker 2: I think, thank you Mom, Thank you mother, you mom, Thank you mom. You look beautiful baby, Thank you look my mom.

00:42:59
Speaker 1: Yes, my mom. Seventy six. This ship. You know, it might not be seventy six. Seventy sh'll be seventy six. This ship.

00:43:07
Speaker 2: Let me give you another surprise. You go to Daniel, love that fur on me. You pick out whatever you want. Gis some ship that make a touch the ground. Mama, make sure the fur drag on the floor.

00:43:20
Speaker 1: It's on me. Oh man, they catch in New York. That's no yo, that really there is. Mom, don't cat. I don't play those das g hold on. I mean I introduced them when he came in. Change the Death. Hey, I'm telling them me, it's real pop ship. Nigga deal bru.

00:43:43
Speaker 2: Something I told him a little while ago, there's no lean back of it, no G depth. Okay, when I was writing that verse, I was thinking G depth the whole time.

00:43:54
Speaker 1: Yet to take that from his floor keep going like I don't know how to explain it to you, but it kept coming like Wi's flow ho he got he got ring Whi's blow got that he had at the time was so on fire that he was just he had like a continued like I don't give fort this happens. We're from Lebronx, New Yorkshire, kiss clapping, spuck that that was that G Liver. No, I'm just saying that was that G Depp? That was that? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, Well, at least in my mind, I know, I was rapping like G.

00:44:34
Speaker 3: We was off Bad Boy already and I was on the Seas album and he got a song with him season Buster.

00:44:42
Speaker 1: He was I'm like, who the hell is They're like, that's G Depth, great the rush right? What's his name of that song? That? Uh? Something with dangerous more dangerous depth. You've been home close to what a year now? Almost to you? It makes some noise for that man, Thank you man. Man, It's beautiful on this side man. Right, Yeah, Man, I seen you on the Freestyling Now YouTube. You was killing it up on that joint. You still got it, man.

00:45:16
Speaker 3: Thank you appreciate told me got a project with him in Black Rob that's coming out.

00:45:22
Speaker 1: Get on that. You should work everybody to be you want want to miss You don't front on fact you're telling you. But it's okay. I'm trying to man Man Man, Man, Joe. He's scared to ask you. Joe, Boie, Man, Bougie.

00:45:42
Speaker 2: Matter this range you caught side everywhere you go. You rich, You enriched the bob.

00:45:49
Speaker 1: The stick man. Yo. Let me tell you something, yo. But you gap man. We proud of you being along for two years the world could you? You and it? So you got cell phones in there when you was locked up, or you wasn't crazy when you came home because I knew when you first came home. I could tell what was moving out.

00:46:10
Speaker 2: Here or the way the ship was looking was like, we'd to you like you you was in GERI how many years thirteen you came out?

00:46:18
Speaker 1: It was monor technology. I could tell by watching you on the ground. I was like, oh man, this guy he got to adjust. I said, he gonna get into usually anybody.

00:46:27
Speaker 11: It was off the street foot but it was it was you know, they had we had the tablets in there, so we kind of, you know what I mean, a little exhimulated, so like the you know, the little icon movement and all of that.

00:46:39
Speaker 1: But it was definitely definitely a coach a shot. When I came home and things was different right there. Everything was just so instant, you know what I mean.

00:46:51
Speaker 11: I tell everybody, you know, before I left, you couldn't order for McDonald's and all that, like just you know somebody that's crazy.

00:46:59
Speaker 1: Now you watch Gill ring your bell and passing. I was like, you watch TV and the thing just says, if you want to order this right now, it could be a big This guy's wearing his shirt on City Live. You don't want to order I swear to god, it's like that on the table.

00:47:14
Speaker 4: On the video game to Care. You're going to sneakers you in order, he gives you cake. They got anything you have to change to change? Let me tell you something. The Guard in my Head is an ill titled The Bois.

00:47:31
Speaker 1: In my Head is God. Man. If you're doing some you're doing some real arm ship man, say it wrong. T Mann your ass burnt man, Hey, man, burnt.

00:47:54
Speaker 2: Hey Joe, Hey, I ain't gonna lie this like this has been in honey something This like seeing you through the screen different like this you burnt out for real? Boy, Like when I see it, I'm like, man, I'm like, yeah, I'm thinking, I ain't know. Oh you thought I was all right this close to you?

00:48:10
Speaker 1: Now is something wrong? I'm looking at you. Bro, you tripped something where you worry? Yeah? I had his God, the voice of my head. Get if you can read. It's a great read.

00:48:24
Speaker 2: Get audio five, audio five, my audio gonna get.

00:48:30
Speaker 1: In me or something? Grammy. Oh, they do Grammys for the audio. It's oh God, I don't gonna get it. Bro, they do Grammys for the audio audio. And look who got the last one? Dog? Who got the last one? Look I see he googling that ship. DOLLI Lama won the last Alma. That's you don't worry about ya. You got that that Dolly Lama wanted last man. Let me tell you something. The name of this book is the voice of my had his God. Thank God, I ain't get a flagged on on me. Yo, listen, thank you, thank Mama for coming through. You know that's the biggest you know what I'm saying, and uh, thank Nadine, Thank the deputy. Then we had a whole list of of us, but it was crazy. Y'all get the book. You gotta get the book. You know I'm a big two Change fan regardless, you know what I'm saying. So if all your albums I get them, you know what I man. I like the Two Teams album on the fucking the Airplane where I ain't got no discratch, I'm going to l a I play that ship. And then you know the teenage your number one fence. She was talking big ship like drop, you gotta get this. I'm like, you're on the Tina. I'm gonna like that for sure. So she and what was this hit today? We were sinking they be comes the top. We need open day, Yo. This ain't that?

00:50:04
Speaker 3: That ain't this cracking kiss makes some noise for tool chains and I'm guessed today.

00:50:14
Speaker 9: Ow ow ow