Ophelia Fae on Staying True as a Lesbian in Adult Entertainment

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everybody, Welcome back to Holly Randall Unfiltered. My guest
<v Speaker 1>today is one of the fastest rising girl girl performers
<v Speaker 1>in the industry. In just seven months, she's gone from
<v Speaker 1>her Valentine's Day debut to working with some of the
<v Speaker 1>biggest names in adults. A proud lesbian who only works
<v Speaker 1>with women, she's built a reputation for authenticity, passion, and
<v Speaker 1>incredible on screen chemistry. We'll talk about how she got
<v Speaker 1>started which she's learned so far and where she wants
<v Speaker 1>to go from here.
<v Speaker 3>Please welcome Ophelia A Hi, thank you so much.
<v Speaker 4>For having me. I'm like, it's crazy that I'm here
<v Speaker 4>right now.
<v Speaker 1>Really yeah, yeah, well, I'm very excited to have you here.
<v Speaker 1>I also want to say, I mean, I know, like
<v Speaker 1>we know each other, but I love your name.
<v Speaker 3>I love the name Ophelia.
<v Speaker 1>It's not one that I've heard like every name in
<v Speaker 1>the porn industry, but Ophelia is a name that is
<v Speaker 1>not common and I love it, Like what inspired you
<v Speaker 1>to pick that name?
<v Speaker 5>So I originally, like when I was just getting started,
<v Speaker 5>was looking at some like alternative modeling things that for
<v Speaker 5>those you're supposed to have a different stage name sort
<v Speaker 5>of too, and they liked those to be a little
<v Speaker 5>bit more out there. So I was going to be
<v Speaker 5>floor for that, and then I knew, like the whole alliteration.
<v Speaker 3>Thing was a thing.
<v Speaker 5>But then when they came the time came around for
<v Speaker 5>me to get started here, my agent was like, you
<v Speaker 5>need a more namey name, and I knew that I
<v Speaker 5>wanted to stick with some sort of f sound. Knew
<v Speaker 5>too many fionas Phoebe didn't feel quite right.
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, went with Ophelia.
<v Speaker 3>I love it. I love it.
<v Speaker 1>So let's talk about who you were, what you were
<v Speaker 1>doing before you started in the industry, and what led
<v Speaker 1>you to decide to be a part of our wonderful world.
<v Speaker 3>Yes.
<v Speaker 5>So I have always been an artist, and I've always
<v Speaker 5>been really passionate about sexuality, like to a point where
<v Speaker 5>my interest in like sex and attraction and sex work
<v Speaker 5>even like predated me having an actual libido of my own.
<v Speaker 4>My mom was.
<v Speaker 5>Talking to me earlier today about how she remembered when
<v Speaker 5>I was really young, being like, women should be able
<v Speaker 5>to do whatever they want as long as they like
<v Speaker 5>doing it, why should anyone police it?
<v Speaker 4>Just like going on this tirade. I do not have.
<v Speaker 5>Any hormones in my body yet, any sort of drive,
<v Speaker 5>So I always just kind of polled in that direction.
<v Speaker 5>But I knew that it wasn't the thing that you're
<v Speaker 5>supposed to traditionally aspire to, so I kind of repressed
<v Speaker 5>it down while like consuming all the media and all
<v Speaker 5>the things and majoring and sexuality studies and all of that.
<v Speaker 4>But I did.
<v Speaker 5>Went through college, got my associates, got my bachelor's, did
<v Speaker 5>six years in corporate and kind of had the like
<v Speaker 5>the cliche adult industry horror story with my corporate path
<v Speaker 5>where I got started right.
<v Speaker 4>When I turned eighteen.
<v Speaker 5>It escalated way faster than what I was prepared for,
<v Speaker 5>but the money was good, so I stuck with it
<v Speaker 5>until they like treated me poorly, kicked me the curb
<v Speaker 5>over and over again. So I was laid off by
<v Speaker 5>my last corporate job the Tuesday after Thanksgiving at nine pm.
<v Speaker 5>And so, yeah, doesn't mean that it's any more of
<v Speaker 5>a stable career just because it's salaried.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's what's so fun and it makes me so crazy.
<v Speaker 1>And I know that you've had issues with this, as
<v Speaker 1>almost every sex worker has. Is that banks, Yeah, credit
<v Speaker 1>card companies, insurance, Like I've been denied credit. I've been
<v Speaker 1>denied insurance because we sex work. Yeah, high risk industries.
<v Speaker 1>But like you just said, like I have found that
<v Speaker 1>actually sex work is people work in sex work generally
<v Speaker 1>have a lot more stable income than people who work
<v Speaker 1>salary drugs.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, because like now I can make do where before
<v Speaker 5>I would have to just troll LinkedIn and like maybe
<v Speaker 5>do like some sort of minimum wage job. But then
<v Speaker 5>you don't have time to troll LinkedIn so I was
<v Speaker 5>trolling LinkedIn and the fires happened, and I live like
<v Speaker 5>pretty close to one of the areas that was affected
<v Speaker 5>by it. So I stayed with my parents for a
<v Speaker 5>while and was kind of just having my like mid
<v Speaker 5>twenties crisis.
<v Speaker 4>What have I done with my life?
<v Speaker 5>I've wasted my youth in this environment that I hate,
<v Speaker 5>and I start I got the idea, just as a
<v Speaker 5>side hustle, to sell some of the art modeling collabs
<v Speaker 5>that I've done with photographers on the Playboy app because
<v Speaker 5>that was the one that I felt like you could
<v Speaker 5>get away with while still working and marketing her sales.
<v Speaker 5>And so I started doing that, and I started my
<v Speaker 5>new Instagram account for that and posting reels on there,
<v Speaker 5>and then pretty early on someone.
<v Speaker 4>That was working with x Suite actually found me.
<v Speaker 5>And I was familiar with you because you were one
<v Speaker 5>of the sources of media that I voraciously consumed because
<v Speaker 5>I was so interested in this industry, and I knew, like,
<v Speaker 5>holy crap, there's not going to be a better opportunity
<v Speaker 5>than this. I also knew that that would involve me
<v Speaker 5>attending a red carpet on February eleventh, as you alluded to,
<v Speaker 5>I didn't even shoot anything until the fourteenth, So I
<v Speaker 5>was going to be known for being an adult before
<v Speaker 5>I even started being an adult. So it was way
<v Speaker 5>too good of an opportunity and way too visible of
<v Speaker 5>one to be subtle about. So basically, I got word
<v Speaker 5>of that party on the eighth, spent a couple of
<v Speaker 5>days just like really thinking on like, is this how
<v Speaker 5>I'm going to spend the next thirty plus years of
<v Speaker 5>my life? And I decided yes, And I wrote a
<v Speaker 5>four page thing to my parents, sends it over to them,
<v Speaker 5>nuke to my personal Instagram down to like two hundred people,
<v Speaker 5>put a message on there. Here's why I don't have
<v Speaker 5>a profile picture anymore in my accounts private. If you
<v Speaker 5>don't like it, you can unfollow, and yeah, I just
<v Speaker 5>fully sent it from the beginning.
<v Speaker 1>Wow, So you this is actually kind of remarkable because
<v Speaker 1>most people jump into porn they don't tell anybody. And
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I can't tell you how many girls I've
<v Speaker 1>talked to who think that they can like skate by
<v Speaker 1>and people won't find out. We'll come on this podcast
<v Speaker 1>and they'll be like, oh yeah, like my parents don't know,
<v Speaker 1>and I'll be like, girl, they're going to know now, yeah, like, no,
<v Speaker 1>they won't know, and I'll be like, yeah, they will,
<v Speaker 1>and then after this podcast they'll call me to be like, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>my parents saw your podcast and they found out. Like
<v Speaker 1>I told you that they would find out. It's not
<v Speaker 1>that I think everybody watches it, but someone's going to watch.
<v Speaker 1>It's going to tell somebody else. It's going to tell
<v Speaker 1>somebody else. It's going to get back to them. But
<v Speaker 1>you like really took the initiative and before even did
<v Speaker 1>your first scene, you told your parents.
<v Speaker 3>So how did they take it?
<v Speaker 5>They took it astoundingly well, Like I sent the initial
<v Speaker 5>email to them out a friend's house because I knew
<v Speaker 5>if I called them then I would be flustered and
<v Speaker 5>then it would sound like a less educated decision than
<v Speaker 5>it was. But she had been my friend since we
<v Speaker 5>were babies, our parents were roommates in college, and so
<v Speaker 5>she knew obviously me really well, loved me, and also
<v Speaker 5>knows my mom really well. And we were like, Okay,
<v Speaker 5>eventually she's going to have merch that says I love
<v Speaker 5>my porn star daughter. It's a matter of when in
<v Speaker 5>the time line we get to that point.
<v Speaker 1>I feel like this march needs to be made and
<v Speaker 1>we need to start a business with this, and.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, yeah I can. I can give.
<v Speaker 3>Someone by the your or any by the view RL.
<v Speaker 5>Now, yeah, my mom can be the figure behind it.
<v Speaker 4>I'm an artist. Let's go.
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, so we knew that that was going to
<v Speaker 5>be where things initially were just a matter of how
<v Speaker 5>long it took. My mom calls me right after and
<v Speaker 5>she's like, I'm not mad. Like there was like the
<v Speaker 5>like initial surprise, but she wasn't on a deep level
<v Speaker 5>surprised because she was like, I always knew that you
<v Speaker 5>were meant to work in something sex related like that
<v Speaker 5>always made the most sense. I didn't necessarily think it
<v Speaker 5>was going to be literal sex work, but like it
<v Speaker 5>checks out. The one thing was that they wanted to
<v Speaker 5>make sure I wasn't doing straight for pye because at
<v Speaker 5>the end of the day, they want me to do
<v Speaker 5>what I'm passionate about and what makes me happy and
<v Speaker 5>having sex.
<v Speaker 4>Men would do neither of those things.
<v Speaker 3>That's so funny.
<v Speaker 1>Just to make sure that you're not doing men and
<v Speaker 1>you're only doing women.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, because they knew that that would be a bad
<v Speaker 5>path for me, like from a mental health perspective. If
<v Speaker 5>I was into guys, I don't think that would even
<v Speaker 5>be an issue. But yeah, they I think were a
<v Speaker 5>little nervous in the beginning, but like I sent them
<v Speaker 5>media to like get an understanding of it. And because
<v Speaker 5>I have between my between a lot of luck and
<v Speaker 5>also my own merits had some pretty cool milestones pretty
<v Speaker 5>early on. I think that that's also made them like
<v Speaker 5>they knew that it was good for me, and then
<v Speaker 5>I'm showing like, oh.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like this is where I'm meant to be.
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, they always they want me to be happy,
<v Speaker 5>They want me to do something that I care about,
<v Speaker 5>and they know that that this is what that is.
<v Speaker 1>I love that one of the reels that you have
<v Speaker 1>pinned to your Instagram page is about it's kind of
<v Speaker 1>a clap back to the people who that.
<v Speaker 3>Comment that we see so frequently.
<v Speaker 1>Which is your father shamed you and it's a letter
<v Speaker 1>from your father's and how proud he is of you.
<v Speaker 3>Right, Can you tell us a little bit about that.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so I that was my very first response that
<v Speaker 5>I got from my dad about getting in the industry.
<v Speaker 5>So again from the jump, no no processing time. He
<v Speaker 5>was in jury duty when I sent it. So my
<v Speaker 5>mom let me know that that's why he was going dark.
<v Speaker 5>But from the moment he got out of jury duty,
<v Speaker 5>that was his immediate reaction, that degree of support and
<v Speaker 5>that understanding that like, no, this is something that I
<v Speaker 5>take seriously and that I want to make an impact
<v Speaker 5>with and yeah, that's all that they ever wanted me
<v Speaker 5>to do. And so I knew that I had that
<v Speaker 5>message from him, and obviously I was touched. Like once
<v Speaker 5>once the initial like overwhelm of emotion past, I had
<v Speaker 5>this thought like I am waiting for the day that
<v Speaker 5>I get a fatherless behavior.
<v Speaker 3>Comment, and has it come?
<v Speaker 4>Yes, it came.
<v Speaker 3>I got that.
<v Speaker 5>I got the like, oh, your your dad must be proud,
<v Speaker 5>and yes he is, and there's empirical proof of it
<v Speaker 5>all myxact.
<v Speaker 3>When you know you've made it. Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.
<v Speaker 5>Which also it's a silly thing because I'm a twenty
<v Speaker 5>five year old, grown adult woman, so like, it doesn't
<v Speaker 5>matter what my parents think, and why is it always
<v Speaker 5>my dad and not my mom?
<v Speaker 1>I was just gonna say, yeah, it's always the d Yeah.
<v Speaker 5>It's always it's always the dad, it's never the mom.
<v Speaker 5>And also I am not a child. Yeah, so I
<v Speaker 5>could not be more deeply grateful that my parents are supportive.
<v Speaker 5>But also if someone's parents aren't, that doesn't mean it's
<v Speaker 5>a bad decision for them. Yeah, like that's why they're
<v Speaker 5>in it. Yeah, that could be totally unrelated.
<v Speaker 1>I do find though, like, from all the people I've
<v Speaker 1>spoken to, I feel like the ones that have the
<v Speaker 1>best experience an adult and have like a really good
<v Speaker 1>balance in terms of like mental health are the ones
<v Speaker 1>that have support from their families.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. It's really hard.
<v Speaker 1>I think when people have families that like turn their
<v Speaker 1>backs on them because they get in the industry, and
<v Speaker 1>I've seen that happen and it's really heartbreaking.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's why, like I want to share the love
<v Speaker 5>with people Like I I've just been so busy with
<v Speaker 5>work that it's been a few months since have been
<v Speaker 5>able to see my parents, But like.
<v Speaker 4>I want them to get to know all my porn friends.
<v Speaker 5>Like they loved taking strays for Thanksgiving and stuff away
<v Speaker 5>before I was in a field where you were likely
<v Speaker 5>to have a lot more strays around the holidays, So
<v Speaker 5>goodness for you, you're probably gonna get some.
<v Speaker 4>More of those.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, because they are so lovely and they are like
<v Speaker 5>so open and accepting, like, not just to me, of
<v Speaker 5>just anyone in the industry that they, yeah, if I
<v Speaker 5>have this great support system, night a hog at all.
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<v Speaker 1>sponsoring the podcast. Okay, so Aphelia, your first ever porn
<v Speaker 1>scene was filmed on Valentine's Day? Was that just a
<v Speaker 1>coincidence or did you plan that that was just a
<v Speaker 1>coincidence that was booked for me.
<v Speaker 5>I got the thing February fourteenth from my agent and
<v Speaker 5>I was like, this must be in a good omen
<v Speaker 5>Like out of all the days together started. That felt
<v Speaker 5>like a good sign. Yeah, and yeah, it was a
<v Speaker 5>great scene.
<v Speaker 4>It was with Amber Moore.
<v Speaker 5>She's by and I'm super grateful that my first scene
<v Speaker 5>was with a fellow queer lady.
<v Speaker 4>And yeah, I it.
<v Speaker 5>The set was super professional, everyone was super friendly. I
<v Speaker 5>had great chemistry with her. It was a great time overall,
<v Speaker 5>and it felt really natural right away.
<v Speaker 3>What brand was it for?
<v Speaker 1>It was a four x cog girls Okay, yeah, and
<v Speaker 1>then so what was what were you expecting going on
<v Speaker 1>to set or did you not know what to expect
<v Speaker 1>and what was Was there anything that was surprising to you?
<v Speaker 5>So I kind of knew what to expect because I
<v Speaker 5>had watched so many podcasts and read so many articles
<v Speaker 5>and everything beforehand. When it came to the fact that,
<v Speaker 5>oh no, this is a professional environment and it's not
<v Speaker 5>going to be some scary, exploitative thing because I'm with
<v Speaker 5>someone who's booking me an official capacity. So I didn't
<v Speaker 5>have any misconceptions about that, and I always felt confident
<v Speaker 5>about myself as a performer. I wouldn't have made the
<v Speaker 5>leap if I didn't have that confidence. But I thought
<v Speaker 5>I would be more nervous my first time. Oh really,
<v Speaker 5>I yeah, I felt really comfortable really quickly.
<v Speaker 4>And I didn't know how much I would like the camera.
<v Speaker 5>Because I realized that for me there is an exhibitionism
<v Speaker 5>element to it, but for me it's more about it
<v Speaker 5>being a project. So like, the higher production value something is,
<v Speaker 5>the more I get off on the camera.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So yeah, I was gonna ask you, like, did
<v Speaker 1>you have a hard time, like having sex and being
<v Speaker 1>aware of the camera, because you know what I mean,
<v Speaker 1>Like sometimes girls get lost in the sex and they
<v Speaker 1>forget that they actually have to perform and what we
<v Speaker 1>say is open up to the camera.
<v Speaker 3>Did you struggle with that?
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, I'm sure if I looked back at
<v Speaker 5>the foot at it now, I would have areas that
<v Speaker 5>I'd want to improve. But I think having a modeling
<v Speaker 5>background and then also having a hypermobility disorder also helps
<v Speaker 5>because a lot of the like open up for the
<v Speaker 5>camera positions are not that weird for me because, like I,
<v Speaker 5>I can go into a full split and not really
<v Speaker 5>feel it, So opening my hips extra wide and a
<v Speaker 5>partial straddle isn't isn't anything that crazy for me.
<v Speaker 4>The one thing I had to learn is to.
<v Speaker 5>Not dive in all the way immediately when I'm going
<v Speaker 5>down on a girl that like I have to do
<v Speaker 5>like the the long tongue distance thing for a bit,
<v Speaker 5>but usually directors let me do my thing fully by
<v Speaker 5>the time that we're really getting into it. But you
<v Speaker 5>at least got to get that initial initial shot.
<v Speaker 1>Now, you mentioned your hypermobility, and you are very athletic,
<v Speaker 1>You're you're a competitive swimmer or I mean water polo. Yes,
<v Speaker 1>and you love yoga and you're insanely flexible. So do
<v Speaker 1>you feel like this athletic background has helped you as
<v Speaker 1>a performer? And do you ever I mean, I have
<v Speaker 1>found that directors when they find a girl is super flexible, Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>they're like, reposition must be insane. Yeah, like do you
<v Speaker 1>run into that?
<v Speaker 3>And is it sometimes like kind of annoying?
<v Speaker 4>I don't mind it.
<v Speaker 5>I think it's fun because again, it's not a strain
<v Speaker 5>on my body, right, But I definitely think that it
<v Speaker 5>helps to be athletic in one capacity or another. That's
<v Speaker 5>one of the things that I really love about it
<v Speaker 5>is that there have been times in my life where
<v Speaker 5>I wanted to be a professional athlete and times where
<v Speaker 5>I wanted to be a professional artist, and now I.
<v Speaker 4>Kind of get to be both.
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, with my Slade scene, for example, when we
<v Speaker 5>were going over the kind of yes and nos, that's
<v Speaker 5>always when I let the directors know it. Also, I'm
<v Speaker 5>wildly flexible, and he was like, okay, good to know.
<v Speaker 5>And I like mentioned in passing, yeah, I can put
<v Speaker 5>both of my feet behind my head. And KGV was
<v Speaker 5>the director. He's like, okay, so we're going to do that.
<v Speaker 5>That's like a gold mine press. We're like, so, so yeah, definitely, Like, yeah,
<v Speaker 5>it's something unique that I can bring to the table.
<v Speaker 4>So I love, I love any opportunity to do that.
<v Speaker 1>So tell us a little bit about your slave scene,
<v Speaker 1>because that only just came out recently, and I know
<v Speaker 1>that's something that we've really been waiting to come out
<v Speaker 1>because you shout it a little while ago and it
<v Speaker 1>looked so great. Yea, So tell us a little bit
<v Speaker 1>about it. Who was with it looked like the experience yea.
<v Speaker 5>So I yeah, it was one of my earlier scenes,
<v Speaker 5>so I was nervous that it would still hold up,
<v Speaker 5>which I feel like it does. But it was with
<v Speaker 5>Ashley Alexander, and it was kind of spy themed, so
<v Speaker 5>sort of James Bond vibes. I had this like gold
<v Speaker 5>leather Madonna type cone boob biki for my pretty girls.
<v Speaker 5>But the whole promise was, oh, we just did whatever
<v Speaker 5>heist and there was the glass dildo in there, so
<v Speaker 5>time to go fuck, which very fun, very cute little
<v Speaker 5>porn logic.
<v Speaker 3>But I.
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, I love the glam thing. I love the
<v Speaker 4>cinematic thing.
<v Speaker 5>I think that as a found and woman who's into
<v Speaker 5>feminine women, it's just like the height of everything that
<v Speaker 5>I want to do of Okay, I'm going to get
<v Speaker 5>as dulled up as possible and be with a girl.
<v Speaker 4>It's also that way, and we're going to have.
<v Speaker 5>Amazing, crazy, freaky sex with beautiful camera work and yeah,
<v Speaker 5>just have a great time. So it was magical. Everyone
<v Speaker 5>on that set was so lovely. I'm so happy I
<v Speaker 5>got to go in their pool because I'm a fish
<v Speaker 5>and anytime to get into the water, I will take it,
<v Speaker 5>and that pool is stunning. So yeah, I could not
<v Speaker 5>have asked for a better hopefully first and many times
<v Speaker 5>a slide.
<v Speaker 1>Was there any dialogue in that scene or was it
<v Speaker 1>all just like cinematic getting into it?
<v Speaker 5>It was all the like cinematic getting into it, okay,
<v Speaker 5>Which I also learned from that when I was making
<v Speaker 5>my own independent content. Now that I have a creative partner,
<v Speaker 5>Salida si Erto, that I work with pretty consistently for
<v Speaker 5>my independent projects, we kind of use that as an
<v Speaker 5>example of, oh, like, you can use the looks to
<v Speaker 5>tell the story and sometimes add in a script, sometimes
<v Speaker 5>add in just some establishing shots, but to give sort
<v Speaker 5>of a context. I like to make the outfits match
<v Speaker 5>with the sex. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
<v Speaker 1>But you also you enjoyed doing the acting though as
<v Speaker 1>well too, because actually, I think I forgot to tell you,
<v Speaker 1>and I didn't send it to you, but Quasar sent
<v Speaker 1>me a clip of you doing the beginning of your
<v Speaker 1>scene with Lana, and he was like, she, she's great
<v Speaker 1>in this, and you were, We're very authentic.
<v Speaker 3>That's a great actress, because I had thething you do
<v Speaker 3>that before.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean I think that it was kind of
<v Speaker 5>a natural role for me to go into. I was
<v Speaker 5>the lead in my fifth grade musical if that counts
<v Speaker 5>for anything. That's kind of the extent of my acting background.
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, I had such a great time and filming
<v Speaker 5>that I've done a few.
<v Speaker 4>Projects of my own that has scripts.
<v Speaker 5>I would love, love, love to do a feature, whether
<v Speaker 5>that's as a supporting character one day as the lead
<v Speaker 5>once I'm ready for that.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I want to do everything in anything.
<v Speaker 3>And then you also just had a shoot come out
<v Speaker 3>with Playboy.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, that was a big pinch me moment.
<v Speaker 5>It was also the first thing that I could share
<v Speaker 5>with my parents that they fully understood because they don't
<v Speaker 5>watch porn.
<v Speaker 4>So, which I mean is nice now especial brought to you.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but they so whenever I would have these other
<v Speaker 5>big milestones, it would be like, oh, yeah, I just
<v Speaker 5>had this happen.
<v Speaker 4>I'm so excited, this is what this means.
<v Speaker 5>And they were still thrilled for me, of course, but
<v Speaker 5>they know what Playboy is. Yeah, Like Playboy is so
<v Speaker 5>iconic and it's so mainstream that that was the first
<v Speaker 5>thing where I was able to share there like, oh shit.
<v Speaker 4>She's doing Playwood. Yeah, so that was really fun too.
<v Speaker 5>And I again, everyone that I've met has been so lovely.
<v Speaker 5>Like I sound like a broken record, but every person
<v Speaker 5>on set that I've worked with has been so great.
<v Speaker 5>It's like everything that I love about creatives, but without
<v Speaker 5>the pretentiousness that comes with a lot of creative fields
<v Speaker 5>that are an adult.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's one of the great things about adult
<v Speaker 1>and I've I mean to sound like a broken record.
<v Speaker 1>I said this so many times, is that I love
<v Speaker 1>you know, what keeps me important is really the people.
<v Speaker 3>And I think that exactly what you said.
<v Speaker 1>There's a real lack of pretentiousness in our industry, and
<v Speaker 1>I think there's something about first of all, being like
<v Speaker 1>the black sheep of the ntayment industry. There's a kind
<v Speaker 1>of us against them mentality because we are stigmatized so much,
<v Speaker 1>but also the vulnerability of doing what you do. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>when you take all your clothes off and you show
<v Speaker 1>like everything to the world, it's kind kind of like
<v Speaker 1>what else have you got to hide? And I think
<v Speaker 1>that translates into the personality as well. And I have
<v Speaker 1>found that porn stars are some of the most like
<v Speaker 1>authentic and down to earth people. When I was shooting
<v Speaker 1>for Playboy a lot, I would shoot fashion models for them.
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes I would shoot Playboy playmates for them, and I
<v Speaker 1>would shoot porn stars, and by far I preferred shooting
<v Speaker 1>porn stars. I would sometimes and not always, but yeah, sometimes,
<v Speaker 1>like the fashion models and like the Playboy playmates were
<v Speaker 1>like they were let's just say they were different. They
<v Speaker 1>were different to work with. And I was just like, Wow,
<v Speaker 1>I really prefer porn stars and like, and I've also,
<v Speaker 1>oh my gods, a shot a reality show celebrity Wants
<v Speaker 1>for a Playboy Jesus Christ.
<v Speaker 4>It was the worst experience.
<v Speaker 3>Oh no, oh my god.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was like, no, no, no, porn stars only please,
<v Speaker 1>please God.
<v Speaker 3>I do not want to shoot celebrities.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I know.
<v Speaker 1>They're great people, really are. So many people talk about
<v Speaker 1>a learning curve when they start. Was there any particular
<v Speaker 1>lesson or piece of advice from these first few months
<v Speaker 1>in the industry that you would want to pass along
<v Speaker 1>to anybody else who's considering getting into porn.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I think that, especially.
<v Speaker 5>When you're getting started, Like there're a lot of times
<v Speaker 5>the things that look for new girls, they want to
<v Speaker 5>do things that are maybe pushing on the edges of
<v Speaker 5>their boundaries. And I think that it's not in the
<v Speaker 5>way that it used to be where it's like, oh,
<v Speaker 5>you got to do this thing.
<v Speaker 4>It's more of like, oh my god, it'd be so
<v Speaker 4>great if you did this thing. But if you're young or.
<v Speaker 5>Just getting started, you might think that you need to
<v Speaker 5>do that even though no one's explicitly asking you. So
<v Speaker 5>what I've found has been really helpful for me when
<v Speaker 5>I've been in those situations is just.
<v Speaker 4>To know what unique thing that I can bring to
<v Speaker 4>the table.
<v Speaker 5>So and it's never just in now, oh it's a
<v Speaker 5>no butt, so like I'm not doing boy girl, but
<v Speaker 5>I bring it for a girl girl, or like I'm
<v Speaker 5>not doing insert whatever thing here, but I have a
<v Speaker 5>modeling background like that sort of thing. So I think
<v Speaker 5>even if you're not directly saying the butt to directors,
<v Speaker 5>producers whoever, just know, I get in the back of
<v Speaker 5>your head. So you have a reason to have some
<v Speaker 5>extra confidence behind your boundaries.
<v Speaker 1>You don't do this thing, but you bring value. Yeah anyways, yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>even though you don't.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I think it's also hard too because a lot of
<v Speaker 1>girls do get into the industry young. You're twenty four
<v Speaker 1>when you got in, right, because you're just turned twenty five. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>And also you worked a corporate job with you said, like,
<v Speaker 1>you worked in the real world and you had a
<v Speaker 1>real job, and you went to college and you did
<v Speaker 1>all the things that I think helped you learn about
<v Speaker 1>life and you know, live, And I think sometimes when
<v Speaker 1>you just into it straight out of school, it's hard
<v Speaker 1>to establish boundaries.
<v Speaker 3>It's hard to establish boundaries as anyways.
<v Speaker 5>I mean also, like even outside of the sex work
<v Speaker 5>aspect to it, if you're going straight from high school
<v Speaker 5>to being a CEO, that's crazy.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like yeah, like.
<v Speaker 5>That's a big part of it too, Like becid Like
<v Speaker 5>for me personally, I would not have been good to
<v Speaker 5>start at eighteen, also because I thought it was straight.
<v Speaker 5>But I wasn't ready to run a media company at eighteen.
<v Speaker 5>So I think that that's another part of it too,
<v Speaker 5>where we all focus on the sex part of it,
<v Speaker 5>but it's like, no, are you ready to be a
<v Speaker 5>business owner like at your age? And some people probably are, but.
<v Speaker 1>I know in my case, I wouldn't have been so
<v Speaker 1>elaborate on that because I think what you're suggesting is
<v Speaker 1>that being a point star is more than just having
<v Speaker 1>sex with people.
<v Speaker 3>Is that what you're saying.
<v Speaker 5>Yes, Actually, the majority of my days is spent doing
<v Speaker 5>admin work, getting various things queued up, setting a pointments,
<v Speaker 5>delegating like certain tasks off to people, like the same
<v Speaker 5>sort of the same sort of planning and thought process
<v Speaker 5>as any other entrepreneur you're doing with your porn because everyone,
<v Speaker 5>regardless of whether you shoot SUITI or all that, your
<v Speaker 5>main income is probably your fan sites, and you're the
<v Speaker 5>one that's in charge of how those get run.
<v Speaker 4>And I remember even.
<v Speaker 5>A while back, I was talking to one of my
<v Speaker 5>friends and he was he's getting started with a tech startup,
<v Speaker 5>and we were having a conversation about sort of our
<v Speaker 5>long term plans and for me, it was different milestones
<v Speaker 5>that I wanted to pace out in a certain way
<v Speaker 5>or have them go however, I'm hoping.
<v Speaker 4>They do eventually.
<v Speaker 5>And he had the same sort of thing with investors
<v Speaker 5>that we were meeting with, and we were having this conversation.
<v Speaker 5>We were like, we're talking about the exact same thing
<v Speaker 5>right now. It's just that you're talking about apartments and
<v Speaker 5>I'm talking about my pussy. But like fully, the same
<v Speaker 5>exact conversation and difficulties that anyone runs into. So I
<v Speaker 5>think that that's the biggest thing that I think probably
<v Speaker 5>gets thrown under the radar for girls when they're starting out.
<v Speaker 5>It's like, are you ready to build a brand that
<v Speaker 5>is going to last decades?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Because you're right.
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's I think what a lot of people
<v Speaker 1>don't realize is you are an independent contractor and you
<v Speaker 1>are your own boss, and especially with fan sites and
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people making their income off of it,
<v Speaker 1>Like you said, that is entirely up to you as
<v Speaker 1>to how that goes. And you have to market yourself
<v Speaker 1>and it is harder now than it was before, and
<v Speaker 1>it's hard to get that traction, and you know, you
<v Speaker 1>have to be consistent and you have to. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>I can't tell you how many girls come into the
<v Speaker 1>industry and don't realize that they have to pay taxes.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah you know what I mean. Yeah, like I just
<v Speaker 3>stuff like that.
<v Speaker 1>And it also drives me crazy that they don't teach
<v Speaker 1>you this shit in school.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they really should, like they really should. Like why
<v Speaker 3>don't we teach finance fuck in high school?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, why don't we teach people about like balancing your checkbook,
<v Speaker 1>paying your taxes, like you know, IRA's like retirement.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah no, let's teach them homech wood shop. Yeah, like, I.
<v Speaker 6>Mean, those are some more practical than Yeah, I know,
<v Speaker 6>but yes, yeah, like like that would definitely have gotten
<v Speaker 6>me a lot farther than the pre calculus that I
<v Speaker 6>was too dyslexic to accomplish.
<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, I mean, people, I remember my little sister,
<v Speaker 1>she got a credit card right out of high school,
<v Speaker 1>completely ran up the debt.
<v Speaker 3>She didn't realize that she had to pay it off.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, she thought it was just free money.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like what the fuck?
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I mean, that's just that's just I mean,
<v Speaker 1>don't get me started on the education system in this country.
<v Speaker 1>That's a whole other rant. Okay, So let's talk about
<v Speaker 1>your sexuality. Yes, so you identify as a lesbian and
<v Speaker 1>work exclusively in girl girl content. When did you know
<v Speaker 1>that you only liked women? And was it hard to
<v Speaker 1>come to that conclusion.
<v Speaker 5>I've joked about this with my friends before. The classic
<v Speaker 5>thing is like gay guys. It's always like, oh, I
<v Speaker 5>knew when I was three years old, every girl at
<v Speaker 5>least in my generation, especially two decades and a boyfriend.
<v Speaker 4>Like it's the classic thing.
<v Speaker 5>Because I could wax philosophical for a really long time
<v Speaker 5>about the way that women are.
<v Speaker 4>Expected to act with men in a patriarch chep blah
<v Speaker 4>blah blah.
<v Speaker 5>But the long story short is there are a lot
<v Speaker 5>of social things that just make you assume that every
<v Speaker 5>woman feels this way or that certain red flags don't
<v Speaker 5>mean that you're not into men. But I was when
<v Speaker 5>I was really young. I probably what would have been
<v Speaker 5>considered out Like I remember crushes that I had on
<v Speaker 5>girls when I was like three. But I moved to
<v Speaker 5>a suburb when I was in middle school that was
<v Speaker 5>a less accepting area. It was like still California, so
<v Speaker 5>it was like okay, like more liberal, but it was
<v Speaker 5>like the gay boys got to hang out with the
<v Speaker 5>popular girls. But like if you were a girl that
<v Speaker 5>like girls, that was really weird and gross and icky.
<v Speaker 5>So I think that I like actively went into the
<v Speaker 5>closet at eleven and then successfully convinced myself that I
<v Speaker 5>was straight by around thirteen fourteen, and I had no
<v Speaker 5>one else foled, but I had myself fulled until like
<v Speaker 5>once I was in college, I started opening myself up
<v Speaker 5>more to experimenting with women.
<v Speaker 4>Of course, men were the experiment.
<v Speaker 5>In hindsight, but I realized like, Okay, yeah, this is
<v Speaker 5>this is a lot more fun. And then I tried
<v Speaker 5>to date a guy and it did not work out,
<v Speaker 5>and that made me realize, like, oh, something's very wrong here,
<v Speaker 5>Like on like a fundamental soul level, I realized that
<v Speaker 5>some of the things that I was experiencing during sex
<v Speaker 5>with men were probably not what.
<v Speaker 4>What should be happening either.
<v Speaker 5>Like I was like, damn, if I just like hooked
<v Speaker 5>up with a few of my guy friends who were
<v Speaker 5>like better, more attentive dudes, it probably could have saved
<v Speaker 5>me so much trouble because like if my like eyes
<v Speaker 5>were tight shut, or I was staring at the wall
<v Speaker 5>whole time and I was just making noises if.
<v Speaker 4>I haven't have been like, what's up?
<v Speaker 3>But what's going on here?
<v Speaker 6>I feel you?
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, I think kind of the more experiences that
<v Speaker 5>I had with women, and the more that I tried
<v Speaker 5>to really make it work with a man, just that contrast,
<v Speaker 5>because we were open at the time too, that that
<v Speaker 5>contrast just got more and more clear.
<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like maybe it was like normal for
<v Speaker 1>you not to enjoy sex with a man. Yes, you
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean.
<v Speaker 4>No one, no one hates on men more than straight women. Like,
<v Speaker 4>I don't know.
<v Speaker 5>Where people got the man hating lesbian thing because straight
<v Speaker 5>women are so like men way more. Yeah like that, Yeah,
<v Speaker 5>that was a big part of it, Like the way
<v Speaker 5>that like I thought, oh, yeah, it's normal to be
<v Speaker 5>dry when you see a dick because straight women.
<v Speaker 4>Talk about how dicks are gross. But then I find out,
<v Speaker 4>oh wait, no, they actually do like them.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah what told me this?
<v Speaker 5>Like I think that, Yeah, the purity culture thing is
<v Speaker 5>a big part of it, because that makes sense.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 5>I think that if like I was in an environment
<v Speaker 5>where straight women were able to be more unapologetic about
<v Speaker 5>what they liked, then I would have realized, oh, that's pretty.
<v Speaker 4>Different from what I'm thinking.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think that that comes down to the
<v Speaker 1>fact that women are not taught to communicate what they
<v Speaker 1>like and that they're just supposed to please men. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>And so of course they don't like sex because they
<v Speaker 1>don't tell guys that they like. Yeah, and men how
<v Speaker 1>can they read minds? Yeah, And so we don't talk
<v Speaker 1>to each other, and so nobody knows what the other
<v Speaker 1>person likes.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's just a vicious cycle. Yeah.
<v Speaker 5>And I think that I also because I am naturally
<v Speaker 5>expressive with my sexuality, and I think that my sexuality
<v Speaker 5>and spirituality are pretty tied together. There was a part
<v Speaker 5>of myself that I did want to give to the world.
<v Speaker 5>But when I was younger, I didn't understand that that
<v Speaker 5>didn't mean that I wanted to sleep without all of
<v Speaker 5>those people. I was like mistaking my desire to like
<v Speaker 5>share this thing that I have as attraction and it wasn't.
<v Speaker 4>So Yeah, No, I.
<v Speaker 5>Was meant for those people to enjoy watching me on
<v Speaker 5>camera having sex with people I'm actually into.
<v Speaker 3>Ah, that makes sense.
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, this is gonna be kind of funny,
<v Speaker 1>espially since you've met her.
<v Speaker 3>But what you just said kind of reminds me of.
<v Speaker 1>My mom, because my mom used to go to orgies
<v Speaker 1>and she used to go and have sex with the
<v Speaker 1>ugliest people at the orgies because she felt bad for them.
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, And she would call herself like this goddess
<v Speaker 1>of love, and she had this idea that like it
<v Speaker 1>was her duty to like be love to people and
<v Speaker 1>like be generous with her love. And yeah, I think
<v Speaker 1>it was also kind of a narcissistic thing where it's
<v Speaker 1>like she felt like she was like gifting you, Oh,
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to give you this great gift of me. Yeah.
<v Speaker 5>I don't know if I ever had like the full
<v Speaker 5>like I will bestow myself upon the but.
<v Speaker 3>Which has I think that my mother belts.
<v Speaker 4>But I think on.
<v Speaker 5>Like a like on a lighter level, it's probably like
<v Speaker 5>the same thing where it was like, oh no, like
<v Speaker 5>this is something that I was always meant to share,
<v Speaker 5>not in the literal hands on way that I was
<v Speaker 5>trying at first.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, so now you're sharing it with the world,
<v Speaker 1>just in a different way.
<v Speaker 3>Got it now, of course.
<v Speaker 1>And when you entered the industry, you've you know, you're
<v Speaker 1>a lesbian, you're aware of your sexuality, and you choose
<v Speaker 1>to work only with women, which isn't always the case
<v Speaker 1>with lesbians. There's a lot of girls that I know
<v Speaker 1>that come into the industry that are only interested in women,
<v Speaker 1>but they work with men because they feel like, you know,
<v Speaker 1>they if they don't work with men, they won't get work,
<v Speaker 1>They won't get jobs. So did you find it difficult
<v Speaker 1>to come into the industr with a girl girl only objective?
<v Speaker 3>And have you found it hard to stick to that?
<v Speaker 4>It was scarier? And I think it is still a
<v Speaker 4>slower start.
<v Speaker 5>Like I think that a performer who was doing guys,
<v Speaker 5>who was hitting the same milestones that I'm at right now,
<v Speaker 5>would probably be making a lot more money than me.
<v Speaker 5>Like it is a slower on ramp, and it has
<v Speaker 5>to be Like that's where having the support from my
<v Speaker 5>family has been really key, and like I know that
<v Speaker 5>I can stick to my guns because they see this
<v Speaker 5>as a legitimate career that takes time to build up with.
<v Speaker 5>But I knew that for me personally, it was more
<v Speaker 5>than just like a oh, I'm not really that into
<v Speaker 5>this thing. I knew that, like, oh I feel bad
<v Speaker 5>after I have sex with guys. Yeah, And so like
<v Speaker 5>not all lesbian's field that way. Some people it's just
<v Speaker 5>like not my thing, but I can do it for
<v Speaker 5>the camera and I don't mind, which is just as valid.
<v Speaker 4>But that wasn't me.
<v Speaker 5>And so I knew that I wanted to have a
<v Speaker 5>long career, and I knew that would mean a slower
<v Speaker 5>career in some ways.
<v Speaker 4>Mainly it's slower financially.
<v Speaker 5>Because because I've been able to move fast in what's
<v Speaker 5>seen publicly in a lot of ways. But yeah, I
<v Speaker 5>think the other thing too is I realized that, oh,
<v Speaker 5>I have to really lean into my independent content because
<v Speaker 5>there are only so many bookings that are girl girl.
<v Speaker 5>But at the same time, the girl girl fan base
<v Speaker 5>is super loyal and they are hungry for more content,
<v Speaker 5>and all these girl girl sites, a lot of them
<v Speaker 5>are getting like less and less frequent with their postings,
<v Speaker 5>so there is at the same time that it there's.
<v Speaker 4>Less work, there's also a bigger void.
<v Speaker 5>So I think that the fact that I'm so unambiguously
<v Speaker 5>lesbian that I don't try to pretend like guys, I think.
<v Speaker 4>That helps me.
<v Speaker 5>Because they know that they're getting the real experience. I
<v Speaker 5>think that, like, I think it would be really hard
<v Speaker 5>to be a girl girl only gay for pay performer,
<v Speaker 5>right now, I think that the only reason it's sustainable
<v Speaker 5>for me is because of how into women I am.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because you're right, there are a ton of girl
<v Speaker 1>girl only performers, or at least maybe not so many now,
<v Speaker 1>but back in the day there was more because it
<v Speaker 1>was more taboo to do boy girl back then than
<v Speaker 1>it is now. But they were because they had a
<v Speaker 1>boyfriend who didn't want them to do guys, and so
<v Speaker 1>they would only do girl girl because that was acceptable
<v Speaker 1>to their boyfriend or they thought that it would not
<v Speaker 1>limit their dating possibilities as much. So that was super common,
<v Speaker 1>but they did not like girls. They only did that because, well,
<v Speaker 1>these are the sex scenes I can do, and still
<v Speaker 1>they got Yeah.
<v Speaker 5>I think that that's also another thing that I had
<v Speaker 5>to get over or the hump of as a performer.
<v Speaker 5>When it came to studios seeing me and they see
<v Speaker 5>girl girl only. They don't know that that's because I'm
<v Speaker 5>a flaming lesbian. They might think that it's because I'm
<v Speaker 5>trying to do the thing that's the least stigmatized and
<v Speaker 5>that shows up really differently on camera. Yeah, So I
<v Speaker 5>think that I had to make a name for myself
<v Speaker 5>about who I am in order to get that respect
<v Speaker 5>from studios to take their chances on me and know
<v Speaker 5>that I wasn't limiting myself in a way that was
<v Speaker 5>just phoning it in.
<v Speaker 1>Have you worked with any girls that are quote unquote
<v Speaker 1>gay for pay and how do you manage that?
<v Speaker 5>Because I also have shot like with a lot of
<v Speaker 5>new girls A lot of times, it's not that different
<v Speaker 5>because they're just nervous either way. Yeah, and I've noticed
<v Speaker 5>that they've commented on it being a positive experience, mainly
<v Speaker 5>because I'm friendly and attentive. I think it's harder to
<v Speaker 5>do straight for paydayer pay as a woman. Even straight
<v Speaker 5>women are like, oh, but I wish I'd liked women.
<v Speaker 5>They're so soft and they smell good, like you never
<v Speaker 5>hear a lesbian talk that way about I mean, I
<v Speaker 5>think I've worked with performers who maybe they have a
<v Speaker 5>ton of fun having sex with women as a thing
<v Speaker 5>for fun, but they don't necessarily view it as.
<v Speaker 4>Erotic necessarily as I do.
<v Speaker 5>They don't have that same degree of connection, but it's
<v Speaker 5>enough for them to have a great time, so that
<v Speaker 5>can be the good. Obviously, my preference is to work
<v Speaker 5>with queer women, and I yeah, when I work with
<v Speaker 5>fully straight girls. I just let them know, like, hey,
<v Speaker 5>I want you to have the best experience that you can, whether.
<v Speaker 4>That means you.
<v Speaker 5>Are having a blast here or you just know that
<v Speaker 5>we're getting something really great that you can be proud of.
<v Speaker 4>That is really just a studio.
<v Speaker 5>I do make sure that with anything that I'm shooting
<v Speaker 5>myself the women and like women.
<v Speaker 1>Are there any misconceptions about lesbian sexuality in adult films
<v Speaker 1>that you've encountered and you want to clear up? Like,
<v Speaker 1>for example, you once joked on X about people doubting
<v Speaker 1>lesbians even enjoy penetration, and you said, heaven forbid a
<v Speaker 1>girl who's not into dick actually have a G spot. Yes.
<v Speaker 5>So I was thinking about this the other day because
<v Speaker 5>it's like I'm very sensitive everywhere, and like my click
<v Speaker 5>can get fried if it's over stimulated, so and I
<v Speaker 5>can get off from penetration. But like, damn, if I
<v Speaker 5>could like donate this to a straight woman who doesn't
<v Speaker 5>feel anything for it, I would.
<v Speaker 4>I would do that for her.
<v Speaker 1>But I am a straight woman who doesn't feel anything
<v Speaker 1>from penetration.
<v Speaker 5>If I it's me, Yeah, if I could give you,
<v Speaker 5>if I could give you that, if that.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I would.
<v Speaker 5>I would happily donate it because it's not as necessary.
<v Speaker 5>I've noticed that in porn, the fetishization around lesbian sex
<v Speaker 5>is less that like, oh my god, it's two girls.
<v Speaker 5>It's this idea that it's always soft and it's always
<v Speaker 5>sweet and it's always just tender kissing that every time
<v Speaker 5>too women have sex, they're making love and I love
<v Speaker 5>doing that. But I also like having rough sex. I
<v Speaker 5>like having kinky sex. I have one of my scenes
<v Speaker 5>is titled spank, Strapped and Zapped, and I like doing
<v Speaker 5>all of those things. And I think that there's a
<v Speaker 5>misconception that sex has to involve dick in order to
<v Speaker 5>be rough, or that sex has to involve men in
<v Speaker 5>order to be rough and enjoyable.
<v Speaker 4>And I think that that affects.
<v Speaker 5>All women, because if we're implying that lesbians only have
<v Speaker 5>this tender sex and that they don't enjoy anything that's
<v Speaker 5>outside of that box, anything that's more intense than that
<v Speaker 5>kind of implies that the only reason that straight women
<v Speaker 5>or by women are doing it is because of its
<v Speaker 5>association with men.
<v Speaker 4>So it's like, okay, then do they even like this?
<v Speaker 4>Then does it even matter whether they want this?
<v Speaker 5>So I think that it is, like it's a chain
<v Speaker 5>of assumptions that can be made that I think affects
<v Speaker 5>everyone down the line.
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, I think it's important.
<v Speaker 5>To show that, like, oh, no, sexuality between two women
<v Speaker 5>where it's just women is just as multifaceted as it
<v Speaker 5>is with men.
<v Speaker 3>Do you know who actually Blue is in her series
<v Speaker 3>girl vert?
<v Speaker 4>I think it sounds familiar.
<v Speaker 3>So she was.
<v Speaker 1>It's funny because I just had Johnny Darko her ex
<v Speaker 1>on last week. She did like crazy hardcore girl girl
<v Speaker 1>stuff like yeah, destroyed, like.
<v Speaker 3>Maybe a little bit too much.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but anyways, you should you should look it up.
<v Speaker 1>She was very famous for them, yeah, doing some really
<v Speaker 1>gnarly role girl scenes.
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, you want you want rough girl girl? That
<v Speaker 3>girl actually started that.
<v Speaker 5>And I still I still like the soft and sweet.
<v Speaker 5>I think everyone likes the soft and sweet. But yeah,
<v Speaker 5>it doesn't mean that it has to be the only
<v Speaker 5>thing or it should be the only thing.
<v Speaker 3>Right, Women are multi faceted just as much as man are.
<v Speaker 1>Exactly now with Little Puck, you actually shot your birthday orgy, yes, right,
<v Speaker 1>so tell us about that because that was quite a
<v Speaker 1>feat to pull off.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, so that was a little Puck.
<v Speaker 5>That was Jewels, Gracie, Snow, Luna, Lux, Danny Sinclair.
<v Speaker 4>I said, there's in an order.
<v Speaker 5>I don't usually say them, Puck, Jewels, Luna, Danny, Gracie. Yeah, okay, yeah,
<v Speaker 5>six girl orgy with a lot of my favorite women
<v Speaker 5>that I've gotten to work with so far. The initial
<v Speaker 5>scene with Luna and Puck actually isn't out yet.
<v Speaker 4>It's a Halloween one, so I get ready for that.
<v Speaker 5>But I was stunned looking at the roster that I
<v Speaker 5>had for that just six months into the industry, because
<v Speaker 5>it was.
<v Speaker 1>For your birth Yes, the idea was like yeah. They
<v Speaker 1>were all like yeah, they were your birthday presents.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so it was like both my six month conniversary
<v Speaker 5>and my birthday, and we like, I got to have.
<v Speaker 4>The sort of creative direction with it.
<v Speaker 5>It was just very like lesbian Polly Pocket kind of
<v Speaker 5>vibe for the aesthetic and then yeah, I make my
<v Speaker 5>little birthday wish on my cupcake. Everyone comes around me,
<v Speaker 5>we start kissing. I'm wearing roller skates. I get strapped
<v Speaker 5>with the roller skates still on.
<v Speaker 1>Was that tricky at any particular moment, because, like you know,
<v Speaker 1>it was a brief thing.
<v Speaker 5>It was like a like, okay, like I got to
<v Speaker 5>do like I'm a roller skater. I like strap for
<v Speaker 5>my birthday, I got to get roller skated. There's I
<v Speaker 5>got to get strapped with roller skates on. Yeah, And
<v Speaker 5>so it was. It wasn't like the easiest feet in
<v Speaker 5>the world. I think that I could probably train out
<v Speaker 5>and get better at it. But it was fun and
<v Speaker 5>it was worth it for the scene that actually ended
<v Speaker 5>up being one of.
<v Speaker 4>The more team parts of it. It got like very barrel.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because that's what happens.
<v Speaker 5>When you have a bunch of genuinely queer women. Yeah,
<v Speaker 5>it's it can't be soft and sweet, but it's not.
<v Speaker 3>Always sh is out of contral Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Have you felt any pressure from like fans, agents, or
<v Speaker 1>studios to eventually do boy girl scenes or have people
<v Speaker 1>have been pretty respectful of that.
<v Speaker 5>I have felt absolutely no pressure from studios or from
<v Speaker 5>agent or from my agent.
<v Speaker 4>I got the door.
<v Speaker 5>Slammed in front of my face from a few people
<v Speaker 5>when I mentioned that I was a girl girl only,
<v Speaker 5>but I so yeah, within the industry, I've never had
<v Speaker 5>any pressure to do it. There have been some I
<v Speaker 5>say fans even lightly because I think that if you're
<v Speaker 5>trying to pressure me to do something that's out of
<v Speaker 5>my boundaries, then you're not really a fan.
<v Speaker 4>Of me, even if you do enjoy my content.
<v Speaker 5>Again, the girl girl community is very strong and very loyal,
<v Speaker 5>so pretty early on with that, like I remember, even
<v Speaker 5>when I had like one hundred followers on Twitter, someone
<v Speaker 5>would be like, oh, do like insert super intense boy
<v Speaker 5>girl seen here, and then they would get like bombarded
<v Speaker 5>with she's gay. So I've been requested to, I've never
<v Speaker 5>felt pressure to, and I never will really, I think
<v Speaker 5>I'm too old to be pressured.
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of fans, do you have a memorable or strange
<v Speaker 1>fan interaction or any comments that made you laugh out
<v Speaker 1>loud or even.
<v Speaker 3>Anything that's been particularly touching.
<v Speaker 5>One of the comments that I got that was really
<v Speaker 5>touching from a fan was about how like yeah, like
<v Speaker 5>you're hot, like whatever, but like he was talking about
<v Speaker 5>my skill and the effort that I put into what
<v Speaker 5>I do and my genuine connection, and I saw that
<v Speaker 5>like he really appreciated me as a performer.
<v Speaker 4>And for my craft.
<v Speaker 5>And I think that my most loyal fans tend to
<v Speaker 5>fall into that camp where some of them like that
<v Speaker 5>I'm girl girl only some of them don't really care
<v Speaker 5>as long as they know that I'm making projects that
<v Speaker 5>I'm passionate about and putting a lot of effort into.
<v Speaker 5>And it's just been really heartening to see that so
<v Speaker 5>many of my fans really just are invested in my
<v Speaker 5>creativity and we having a great time.
<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately, the negative the internet also comes with negativities. We
<v Speaker 1>all know, we call them trolls. So, now that you're
<v Speaker 1>in the public eye and your Instagram has grown significantly,
<v Speaker 1>how many followers do you have now on Instagram?
<v Speaker 4>I think like two hundred sixty.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which is which is a lot, yeah, for especially
<v Speaker 1>for being I mean you've been in the industry for
<v Speaker 1>like seven months.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>How do you manage negative comments? Do you let it
<v Speaker 1>get to you? Do you not read the comments? Do
<v Speaker 1>you block people?
<v Speaker 5>Like?
<v Speaker 3>How do you manage that?
<v Speaker 5>I don't really look at my Instagram comments unless they're
<v Speaker 5>like I don't even really get the note of occasions
<v Speaker 5>for Instagram comments unless it's like from people that I'm
<v Speaker 5>following back, So that makes it pretty easy Instagram. I'm
<v Speaker 5>also really tame, so I think there's a decent chunk
<v Speaker 5>of people on there who think that I'm just an
<v Speaker 5>LGBT mainstream model influencer. So I've generally been lucky about that.
<v Speaker 5>Like I get like the weird comment here and there,
<v Speaker 5>but like it doesn't really phaze me. The main thing
<v Speaker 5>that I that has bothered me isn't really even about
<v Speaker 5>comments that I get, but it's comments that other women
<v Speaker 5>that I know very hands on, that they are genuinely sapphic. Yeah,
<v Speaker 5>being told, oh, you're not even gay, you only talk.
<v Speaker 3>About boys, blah blah blah blah blah blah.
<v Speaker 5>Blah, and having their sexualities invalidated.
<v Speaker 4>That pisses me off to see.
<v Speaker 5>I apparently someone said something on like my subreddit that
<v Speaker 5>I'm a fake lesbian.
<v Speaker 4>But that's just like so laughable to me.
<v Speaker 5>But when it happens to other people, that's when I
<v Speaker 5>get more ticked and anything else.
<v Speaker 1>So you are also somebody who, unlike myself, actually has hobbies.
<v Speaker 1>So tell us about your hobbies and what are you
<v Speaker 1>really passionate about.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so I loved to roller skate, as I kind
<v Speaker 5>of aluated to I do. I mainly like to do
<v Speaker 5>like big long distance skates like outdoors. I have my
<v Speaker 5>headphones and music blasting, just going along the beach and
<v Speaker 5>it feels like I'm flying. It's the most magical feeling ever.
<v Speaker 5>I paint, I sculpt here and there. I love to swim, love.
<v Speaker 4>To be in any sort of body of water.
<v Speaker 5>I got fitted for a wig cap today and it
<v Speaker 5>reminded me of the feeling of a swim cap.
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, oh, I need to get back into that.
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, I like to hike, like to try new
<v Speaker 5>vegan restaurants, work with new art mediums.
<v Speaker 1>So a feeling a paint made me a painting for
<v Speaker 1>my birthday, and I hung it in my bathroom. By
<v Speaker 1>the way, Oh my god, I took down I replaced
<v Speaker 1>an old photo of me that was taken when I
<v Speaker 1>was like eighteen, when I was at Brooks in student
<v Speaker 1>photography and someone shot me for one of their projects.
<v Speaker 1>So I took down a photo of myself, Oh my god,
<v Speaker 1>to put up. You're the painting that you and.
<v Speaker 4>It's so honored.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it looks a lot better in my bathroom than this.
<v Speaker 3>My and my husband was like, oh, you finally took
<v Speaker 3>down that fucking picture of yourself.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, looks looks mix the bathroom, which look much lighter.
<v Speaker 1>What are you Some of your long term ambitions in
<v Speaker 1>the adult industry. Do you see yourself staying purely in
<v Speaker 1>front of the industry or do you have any plans
<v Speaker 1>branching out doing stuff behind the camera.
<v Speaker 5>I think that I will always want to have at
<v Speaker 5>least some portion of my career in front of the camera,
<v Speaker 5>because that is really deeply fulfilling to me on like
<v Speaker 5>a higher level.
<v Speaker 3>But I yeah, I'm.
<v Speaker 5>Open to directing. I mean, doing your own self reduced stuff.
<v Speaker 5>Everyone's kind of a director, and I've had I've had
<v Speaker 5>a few moments here and there where I'm set stuff
<v Speaker 5>I'm like, oh my god, I'm such a director. Obviously
<v Speaker 5>don't know nearly as much as actual directors, but I'm
<v Speaker 5>I want to I want to do a little bit
<v Speaker 5>of everything. Yeah, Like, I'm open to anything that's out there.
<v Speaker 5>I think like being a performer will always be my core,
<v Speaker 5>but I yeah, I don't like to be pinned down
<v Speaker 5>to just one thing.
<v Speaker 3>What does success look like to you?
<v Speaker 1>Is it about winning awards, building a massive fan base,
<v Speaker 1>creating work you're proud of, or maybe something bigger.
<v Speaker 5>I think that it's mainly about creating work that I'm
<v Speaker 5>proud of. I also want to break glass feelings for
<v Speaker 5>what it means to be girl girl only. I know
<v Speaker 5>that there were previous eras nineties, early two thousands where
<v Speaker 5>girl role only performers were able to assent to really
<v Speaker 5>high heights, and that hasn't been the case for a while.
<v Speaker 5>It's been treated as the entry level thing. And I
<v Speaker 5>want to dismantle the idea that girl girl only sex
<v Speaker 5>is entry level sex.
<v Speaker 4>And I want to.
<v Speaker 5>Hit all the same milestones in due time as any
<v Speaker 5>boy girl performer would, just with a lady with a strap.
<v Speaker 5>I think that, yeah, I don't put too much pressure
<v Speaker 5>on myself to be like to convey a certain message
<v Speaker 5>with my work. At first, I tried to put out
<v Speaker 5>on my shoulders, and then I realized that if I'm
<v Speaker 5>doing stuff that I authentically think is hot and I
<v Speaker 5>authentically enjoy and I'm fufilled creative by that is authentic
<v Speaker 5>lesbian representation more so than me trying to be the
<v Speaker 5>perfect mold of what lesbian representation should be right. And so, yeah,
<v Speaker 5>I want to share that with the world because, Yeah,
<v Speaker 5>like I mentioned, I think it makes a difference for
<v Speaker 5>all women, regardless of who you're sleeping with, to show
<v Speaker 5>that woman only sex can be anything that sex with
<v Speaker 5>man can be okay.
<v Speaker 1>And last question, like so many others in our industry,
<v Speaker 1>you have even only fans where you can create your
<v Speaker 1>own personal content and interact with your fans on a
<v Speaker 1>more personal basis. Can you tell us a little bit
<v Speaker 1>about what people can expect to find on there?
<v Speaker 5>Yes, so I mainly girl girl is where my core is.
<v Speaker 5>Of course, some solos now that I'm working with Soul
<v Speaker 5>I kind of mentioned her earlier, some better quality solos too,
<v Speaker 5>because I realized I like shooting solos a lot more
<v Speaker 5>when I get to work with somebody, even if that's
<v Speaker 5>somebody is a camera woman. But I love to make
<v Speaker 5>pretty things. That's my biggest thing. I love a good project.
<v Speaker 5>I again, models sort of off of that stuff, getting
<v Speaker 5>the establishing shots, setting a mood.
<v Speaker 4>Maybe there's a bit of a script, maybe there's not.
<v Speaker 5>And then yeah, I have vanilla sex, I have kinky sex.
<v Speaker 5>I have stuff that's the more classic girl girl flavor.
<v Speaker 5>One thing that I really want to lean into more
<v Speaker 5>because I've noticed that girl girl versus boy girl isn't
<v Speaker 5>just about the gender makeup of the two people that
<v Speaker 5>are having sex in it. It's a stylistic thing too,
<v Speaker 5>So I want to basically have a mix of classical
<v Speaker 5>girl girl boy girl where I'm the girl and the
<v Speaker 5>other girls the boy and boy girl where I'm the boy,
<v Speaker 5>and some of that can be about penetration, but not really,
<v Speaker 5>it's just about the dynamic.
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you of course know what.
<v Speaker 3>I'm talking about.
<v Speaker 5>You've seen the difference hands on, like even more than
<v Speaker 5>I have.
<v Speaker 3>Like, so you're talking about kind of like a dominance.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the dominance.
<v Speaker 5>But even like the scene that I shot with Laura Bentley,
<v Speaker 5>She's arguably still the more dominant one in that, but
<v Speaker 5>during it was like, oh, I'm her little boy toy
<v Speaker 5>right now. Like I was like, oh, I'm doing I'm
<v Speaker 5>doing a male talent role in the way that she's
<v Speaker 5>her husband's away and I'm the booty call and I
<v Speaker 5>get on my knees in front of her. She sits
<v Speaker 5>like a queen and I like eat her out. It's
<v Speaker 5>like a very like classic boy girl script. But like,
<v Speaker 5>why can't I be the boy?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's a good pool Yeah, maybe you can be
<v Speaker 1>like you can do like a pool girl thing.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, the pizza girl yeah.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, oh I really slummer.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I really want to do a pool girl one
<v Speaker 5>because I think just like you could get so any
<v Speaker 5>of the like the campy cliche shatu film like fully
<v Speaker 5>filming me in like the objectification way that you film
<v Speaker 5>a man, like it's like the ab shots the arm like. Yeah,
<v Speaker 5>if I think that would be so fun, you could
<v Speaker 5>do a whole series that is literally like all of
<v Speaker 5>the porno tropes that usually involve a man.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's just a woman. Yeah, that would actually be pretty.
<v Speaker 4>Ladies, let me know your favorite me and Soul will
<v Speaker 4>make it happen.
<v Speaker 3>All right, well, Ophelia, thank you so much for coming,
<v Speaker 3>Thank you for having me.
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