TLF Special Report: The John Cena Heel Turn

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<v Speaker 6>Journey continues, The Journey never ends. It's main season once again,
<v Speaker 6>and we thought it fitting here at the Lapsed Fan
<v Speaker 6>to bring you a TLF special report because the heel
<v Speaker 6>turn of John Cena back an elimination chamber was supposed
<v Speaker 6>to be one of those moments that calls out to
<v Speaker 6>lapsed fans, wasn't it, Boss?
<v Speaker 4>It was? Yes, indeed, it's it's the it's the moment
<v Speaker 4>that so many, so many lapse fans have been begging
<v Speaker 4>for since two thousand and five.
<v Speaker 6>And why why were they begging for it?
<v Speaker 4>Because because they hated John Cena, like the character, you know,
<v Speaker 4>because he gave up on the character that made him popular.
<v Speaker 4>He gave up or they made him give up on
<v Speaker 4>the character that made him popular, the rapper, and they
<v Speaker 4>turned him into this this goofball, childish, idiot atic, infantile babyface.
<v Speaker 6>It's been so funny to watch people forget that as
<v Speaker 6>he became the old Babe Ruth legend, you know, and
<v Speaker 6>suddenly it was like greatest hits, the stuff that originally
<v Speaker 6>turned people on him, We don't forget. That's that's that's
<v Speaker 6>where the lapsed fan.
<v Speaker 4>Listen, forget, listen, listen. If I had been if I
<v Speaker 4>had been in some of the events, I don't think
<v Speaker 4>we were ever at an event that he was scheduled
<v Speaker 4>to be at. Obviously he showed up last year Wrestlemanium.
<v Speaker 4>But if he had been at at at any other
<v Speaker 4>event that we have been live, I would have called
<v Speaker 4>people out on their bullshit. I would have reminded them
<v Speaker 4>that they're cheering this guy. They're considering him to be
<v Speaker 4>this this legend, this old time or this this babe ruth.
<v Speaker 4>He's done nothing different yet now they're cheering him when
<v Speaker 4>they boot him before when he was their savior. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>I call your hypocrisy, I call your shit. I knew this.
<v Speaker 4>I knew this, I said to the people in two
<v Speaker 4>thousand and seven. Yes, and a listener knows. Yep.
<v Speaker 6>We were in the parking garage across the field from
<v Speaker 6>ford Field, across the street from ford Field. We're seen,
<v Speaker 6>of course, defeated Shawn Michaels in the main event of
<v Speaker 6>that show. And after we parked our car, we look
<v Speaker 6>down unto the assembled masses waiting to get into the venue. Yep,
<v Speaker 6>and what did you let him have? What did you
<v Speaker 6>let him here?
<v Speaker 4>I let them know that they that they are. You're
<v Speaker 4>cheering for Sean Michaels, but you don't really like Sewn Michaels.
<v Speaker 4>You need John Cena. John Cena is your savior. John
<v Speaker 4>Cena is why you're here, and you love him. You
<v Speaker 4>love him, you need him, you desire him. He is
<v Speaker 4>right where you want him to be.
<v Speaker 6>It's almost like we were writing the ideal John Cena
<v Speaker 6>turnheel promos way back in two thousand and seven. Yes, yeah,
<v Speaker 6>now is that what ended up happening. That is the
<v Speaker 6>focus of this TLF special report, brought to you in
<v Speaker 6>the spear of our WrestleMania run up coverage. Of course,
<v Speaker 6>we're back with you coming up this weekend on patreon
<v Speaker 6>dot com Slash the Lapsed Fan for a WrestleMania live call,
<v Speaker 6>a traditional live call, and that we're in the comfort
<v Speaker 6>of our homes. We're not in some fucking different time zone.
<v Speaker 6>Pretending to enjoy it as the discomforts of being live
<v Speaker 6>settle in.
<v Speaker 4>Not regretting, like leaving the hotel room to have to
<v Speaker 4>go be all attendance for this shit.
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, there is kind of a there is kind of
<v Speaker 6>a tug on the gut when you have to leave
<v Speaker 6>for night one. It's like, really, I'm going to take this.
<v Speaker 6>I'm not going to be back for like nine hours.
<v Speaker 4>I know, like you know it really one of the
<v Speaker 4>we really should I'll tell you what would be a
<v Speaker 4>fascinating experiment to go you know, whenever to go to
<v Speaker 4>a WrestleMania and go to night one but then spend
<v Speaker 4>night two in the hotel room and watching it. That
<v Speaker 4>might be a fun experiment. I know, the tickets, it's
<v Speaker 4>not like you get a discount on tickets if you
<v Speaker 4>do that. But still, indeed, I wouldn't care.
<v Speaker 6>It's I'm looking forward to it in a special way,
<v Speaker 6>of course, this being an Easter Sunday WrestleMania. Yeah, they
<v Speaker 6>kind of made the decision. We'll see who rises again,
<v Speaker 6>I know for us, but uh yeah, we thought it
<v Speaker 6>fitting because you know, the Sena Hill turn is supposed
<v Speaker 6>to be the Hogan ninety six, right, It's supposed to
<v Speaker 6>be one of the most impactful triggers you could pull.
<v Speaker 6>And they did it. And what was said? Did Sina
<v Speaker 6>and Cody rise to the occasion? Did they fulfill the promise?
<v Speaker 4>And here's and here's the thing. This is this is
<v Speaker 4>the honest to god truth. I've only seen one of
<v Speaker 4>the promos and that was the That was the first
<v Speaker 4>one I watched, the first promo. I don't think I
<v Speaker 4>saw the whole thing, and I haven't cared to go back. Now,
<v Speaker 4>when you say the first promo, you mean seen is first, Yes,
<v Speaker 4>when in Belgium. In Belgium, absolutely yes, which which is
<v Speaker 4>a problem in and of itself. Yes, God bless all
<v Speaker 4>of all the fine people of Belgium and all the
<v Speaker 4>great wrestling fans of Belgium will get to all that.
<v Speaker 4>But this is in true lapsed fashion to chronological march
<v Speaker 4>through pretty much every word Cody Rhodes and John Cena
<v Speaker 4>have said to each other on WWE television since that
<v Speaker 4>fateful heel turn at the elimination Chamber of pay per View.
<v Speaker 4>Now we know that was landmark because we were there
<v Speaker 4>recording for patrons one of the more memorable live calm
<v Speaker 4>moments ever. So let's set the stage. Let's get back
<v Speaker 4>into that skin. If we're going to determine if the
<v Speaker 4>John Cena Hill turn lived up to the potential boss,
<v Speaker 4>we do have to revisit that initial emotion, recollected and tranquil,
<v Speaker 4>absolutely truct like just somewhere else. He's somewhere else, He's danced.
<v Speaker 4>What was he doing, He's waving the thing all over himself.
<v Speaker 4>Oh Sage, he's burning Sage. Oh yeah, that's not Sage, pal,
<v Speaker 4>He's not burning Sage. Cody's still looking at him. What
<v Speaker 4>are the Look at his pants? Look at Dwayne's pants.
<v Speaker 4>I can't look at his pants? What are these bill bottoms?
<v Speaker 4>Rock steps back, smirks it. Scene is he is he
<v Speaker 4>like doing the production of Mama Mia. Rock is just
<v Speaker 4>standing there, Cody's standing there, scene is standing there? Are
<v Speaker 4>we waiting for something to happen? This time? Cody Media WrestleMania.
<v Speaker 4>They shaved with Scena Gonna. Scena gives us so the Dwayne.
<v Speaker 3>Wow Rock in the throat slash, say now look at
<v Speaker 3>his fast.
<v Speaker 7>Holy ship, holywood, wow boss the fucking heel.
<v Speaker 4>Wow, that's what we get for making fun of his
<v Speaker 4>bald spot. Look at Sena's face. Look at that. Now
<v Speaker 4>we can shave his head bald. He just kicked Cody
<v Speaker 4>and the balls. He grabbed his rolex and pops or
<v Speaker 4>is it nuts? I don't know what it is. I
<v Speaker 4>don't know what it is, but it's gold and they
<v Speaker 4>had a plan. Rock and Sena had a plan. It's
<v Speaker 4>his watch, his watch, yeah, wow, none, press knuckles, idiot,
<v Speaker 4>it's a watch is boom wow? Sina as a heel,
<v Speaker 4>he's doing it. Look at this, He's on a pushing
<v Speaker 4>him like a rabbit animal. He's going off. Santa Cina's
<v Speaker 4>got a mic. Hollywood say save it's the Hollywood connection
<v Speaker 4>to it. Hollywood gets Travis is down to liking it.
<v Speaker 4>Oh in the head with a live micro. Look at
<v Speaker 4>it the way Rock looks down like you made me
<v Speaker 4>do this. He's got that's his farewell tour, boss the
<v Speaker 4>scene a farewell tour. Loving this. I'm loving this. Listen,
<v Speaker 4>this is fucking McDonald's all right, I'm fucking loving it.
<v Speaker 4>Oh seeing a Crown's cody with the title Rock just
<v Speaker 4>stands there just like, look at it. Oh my god,
<v Speaker 4>look at he looks look at him, Hitler. Remember that.
<v Speaker 4>I do, I do remember that. What do you remember
<v Speaker 4>about it? I remember, I mean number one, it's the
<v Speaker 4>first swerve that I think really blew me over. Uh,
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I guess seeing Punk coming back was also
<v Speaker 4>kind of like that, But I think this was different.
<v Speaker 4>In a hole, you know, he kind of knew Sam
<v Speaker 4>Punk was coming back after all his eight A A
<v Speaker 4>E W bullshit, But you never really thought Seen was
<v Speaker 4>ever going to turn turn heel. You never thought that
<v Speaker 4>was going to happen. And I remember it was so
<v Speaker 4>it left such a mark on me that all I
<v Speaker 4>wanted was follow up, that's that's a rare thing for
<v Speaker 4>them to achieve these days, it is, and that all
<v Speaker 4>I wanted was like I I I think I talked
<v Speaker 4>about this that I even went the next morning. I
<v Speaker 4>even decided, as I was getting you know, my kid
<v Speaker 4>ready to go out for school, to go to school,
<v Speaker 4>I I decided that I'm gonna even watch the press conference.
<v Speaker 4>I've never watched one of those fucking scrums or whatever
<v Speaker 4>they call it, you know after after the show where
<v Speaker 4>Triple H goes out there and and jerks off on
<v Speaker 4>all these reporters. But but I said, you know what
<v Speaker 4>I got. I need something out of this. I needed
<v Speaker 4>I need to know a little more. I need some
<v Speaker 4>kind of you know whatever. Yeah, it never happened, it's
<v Speaker 4>not in the only time it's ever happened. I think
<v Speaker 4>is is when a WrestleMania has happened. And then I've
<v Speaker 4>done that, like I I know that I've I've I've
<v Speaker 4>searched wrestle like the day after WrestleMania, have some something
<v Speaker 4>kind of monumental has happened, or you know they that
<v Speaker 4>I know that, or something that some kind of twist
<v Speaker 4>at the end. I've gone to see if there's been
<v Speaker 4>any kind of report on it or like a you know,
<v Speaker 4>a post wrestling a podcast or something like that. But
<v Speaker 4>that's it. But this was like, I've never been so
<v Speaker 4>invested in anything wrestling honestly to this point in a
<v Speaker 4>long time, long time.
<v Speaker 6>I was ten years of laps. We've been saying the
<v Speaker 6>Boss Index tells you that if Boss needs it, if
<v Speaker 6>Boss is dialed in and he needs more, that means
<v Speaker 6>they have struck gold, that they are onto something. But
<v Speaker 6>here we are just you know what, forty eight hours
<v Speaker 6>away from night one of Wrestlingania yep, and you don't
<v Speaker 6>need it.
<v Speaker 4>No, No, I'll tell you that I was. I was
<v Speaker 4>turned off. Number one. I was turned off that. Listen.
<v Speaker 4>I stand by what I said. We're going to get
<v Speaker 4>to that to please go the uh you know, the
<v Speaker 4>idea of not showing Sena until WrestleMania. Let's let's set
<v Speaker 4>that stage because you know we we of course got
<v Speaker 4>together in the interim and we did a long car
<v Speaker 4>ride together and you ruined it. You ruined it because
<v Speaker 4>what you did was propose a series of touches they
<v Speaker 4>could have done to come off of this thing, to
<v Speaker 4>maintain that curiosity, to maintain that sense of what's going
<v Speaker 4>to happen, to maintain that sense of something revolutionary truly
<v Speaker 4>being underway, to keep that sort of Paul that was
<v Speaker 4>cast over Nitro after Hogan turned alive for weeks and months,
<v Speaker 4>to be able to really sort of turn the whole
<v Speaker 4>mood of the show over to something that has happened,
<v Speaker 4>that is this monumental Do they have the nuts to
<v Speaker 4>do that? And you laid out a series of touches
<v Speaker 4>that could have perhaps brought the scene a thing to
<v Speaker 4>that level. And I'm sitting there hearing what you're outlining
<v Speaker 4>and bouncing other ideas off of you. And by the
<v Speaker 4>time we were done talking about it, there was no
<v Speaker 4>other way they could have booked the John cena Hill
<v Speaker 4>turn to optimize other than what we came up with,
<v Speaker 4>which is what happens. And they could have and all
<v Speaker 4>they could have done, honest to God, is done one
<v Speaker 4>of the things. If they done one of the things
<v Speaker 4>that we suggested, well, they talked about virtual buffet for Paulovek.
<v Speaker 4>If we had done, if even one one simple idea,
<v Speaker 4>and one of them, there's one that there's no excuse for. Honestly,
<v Speaker 4>and again, I've only seen one promo I've only seen
<v Speaker 4>and not even the whole thing, like I said before,
<v Speaker 4>but they have he cannot come out with his same attire.
<v Speaker 6>I mean, the most basic one. They whiffed on the
<v Speaker 6>most basic one. And I know they tried to get cute,
<v Speaker 6>and they tried to pretend that they were actually responding
<v Speaker 6>to that and playing off of that and making Seena
<v Speaker 6>even more of a heel because he won't change how
<v Speaker 6>he looks for you. What a stupid idea? What I
<v Speaker 6>I hope I fucking hope that they didn't do this
<v Speaker 6>because they wanted to be able to sell uh you know,
<v Speaker 6>Sina World Tour, Scotland seen a World Tour, fucking Belgium
<v Speaker 6>shirts that they already had in production. Because that's the
<v Speaker 6>only thing I can think of. And if that's the reason,
<v Speaker 6>shame on them, because they they know what they should have.
<v Speaker 4>Done, still sell them. Why can't you still sell that shit?
<v Speaker 4>I don't know.
<v Speaker 6>But as he walked out there and talked about how defiant,
<v Speaker 6>how he was defiant and not changing his look, I
<v Speaker 6>couldn't help but notice the flag of the country they
<v Speaker 6>happened to be in during this European tour that they
<v Speaker 6>were on on his fucking hat and the colors of
<v Speaker 6>that nation's flag on the on the shirt. They did
<v Speaker 6>in UK, they did it in Scotland, they did it
<v Speaker 6>in Belgium, and I, you know, I have to think
<v Speaker 6>that this heel turn the truth will come out someday.
<v Speaker 6>Was a last minute adjustment, you know that there was
<v Speaker 6>no real plan once they decided it was Cody and
<v Speaker 6>Sena at WrestleMania for Sena to come in as this
<v Speaker 6>as this heel that the what happened in Elimination Chamber
<v Speaker 6>was pitched. Triple A just talked about it in some
<v Speaker 6>interviews since he sort of outlined how he had the conversation,
<v Speaker 6>how he put it to Sena, how he's talking and
<v Speaker 6>talking and talking, and how Sina when you really are
<v Speaker 6>pitching something to him tends to be very quiet and
<v Speaker 6>listen for a very long time and then come back
<v Speaker 6>with a response that kind of casts the die. And
<v Speaker 6>in this case, scene was like, I like it because
<v Speaker 6>it was you know, it was a challenge. It was
<v Speaker 6>him not not mailing it in in his final life
<v Speaker 6>farewell tool right, which is great, but he didn't speak
<v Speaker 6>to his timeline. To me, what always matters in wrestling
<v Speaker 6>is when when when when when when? Because that's the
<v Speaker 6>question they do not want to answer because that reveals
<v Speaker 6>that there was conflict, that someone lost in the battle,
<v Speaker 6>and the fact that we haven't seen the Rock once
<v Speaker 6>since engineering that moment we displayed back to you in Toronto,
<v Speaker 6>an elimination Chamber says at all, if you or if
<v Speaker 6>you're wondering, really does in his absence, his absence, as
<v Speaker 6>we'll get to, in my opinion, has significantly hurt what
<v Speaker 6>it was they said in motion an elimination Chamber. I
<v Speaker 6>don't know if Sena and Cody got together and said,
<v Speaker 6>you know, we're going to box Rock out of this thing,
<v Speaker 6>because after a week, as we'll get to, they stopped
<v Speaker 6>mentioning him. They kind of brought him up again recently.
<v Speaker 6>But whatever the decision was to put Rock into the background,
<v Speaker 6>maybe it's maybe he's filming Jumanji three. Sure, I'm sure
<v Speaker 6>wherever he's filming. They knew he was going to be
<v Speaker 6>filming when they put him front and center in that
<v Speaker 6>heel turn angle at elimination Chamber. But you know, because
<v Speaker 6>that that was the accelerant that you needed, That that
<v Speaker 6>was the Hall and Nash to the Hogan. Yes, that
<v Speaker 6>was the X factor that came along that finally pushed
<v Speaker 6>the superhero to the dark side. Right, those were the
<v Speaker 6>agents of chaos at Travis Scott if you want to
<v Speaker 6>throw him in there too as well, he'll be at WrestleMania,
<v Speaker 6>so I'm sure there'll be some moment. Cody has made
<v Speaker 6>reference in interviews to wanting to get a receipt on
<v Speaker 6>Travis Scott, who legitimately busted his ear drum during the
<v Speaker 6>beatdown that occurred after that. Oh yeah, we'll see some
<v Speaker 6>bruising on Cody's face in the first promos he cuts
<v Speaker 6>after the elimination chamber here in a moment. But all
<v Speaker 6>of that said, you're sitting there booking this out, and
<v Speaker 6>for the benefit of those who might not have caught
<v Speaker 6>the episodes where we talked about this, we're heading into WrestleMania.
<v Speaker 6>It's worth revisiting totally. You talked about the look. Please
<v Speaker 6>lay it all out. How do you do it?
<v Speaker 4>Number Number one? Number one, he has to look completely different.
<v Speaker 4>Any resemblance to John Senior that we've seen since two
<v Speaker 4>thousand and two is it destroys the.
<v Speaker 6>Whole thing destroys and that is not an exaggeration. No,
<v Speaker 6>it is a non starter. It is as if Hulk
<v Speaker 6>Hogan continued to wear yellow and red after drowning the
<v Speaker 6>exactly Listen, I'm telling you right now. The reason, the
<v Speaker 6>reason I didn't follow up with any of the other
<v Speaker 6>promos had nothing to do with what he said, had
<v Speaker 6>to do with the that he came out with the
<v Speaker 6>same fucking look. And I'm like, fuck this, that's what
<v Speaker 6>that's That's why I didn't watch it. He should have come.
<v Speaker 6>I was going to sell out. It's going to be
<v Speaker 6>a record revenue.
<v Speaker 4>But it won't be. It could have been he got
<v Speaker 4>you gotta say it. He should have shaved his head
<v Speaker 4>bald and he should have grown a full beard. Wow.
<v Speaker 4>And I sent you a picture of a photoshop version
<v Speaker 4>of what I what I envision did And why is
<v Speaker 4>it so important that he do that as far as
<v Speaker 4>the beard in the bald, because it just you need
<v Speaker 4>to start from scratch. You need to erase any sort
<v Speaker 4>of any sort of connection with the previous incarnation of
<v Speaker 4>John Cena. It's going to be totally different. Why because
<v Speaker 4>because because I don't I don't know. All I can
<v Speaker 4>think of the writer's room here. Yeah, he's asked me.
<v Speaker 4>He's asked me, why is he going to do that?
<v Speaker 4>Because fans shouldn't recognize him. This should be the real
<v Speaker 4>John Cena in a way, this should be what he
<v Speaker 4>truly looks like. I'm the inside, That's what it should be.
<v Speaker 4>It's it's because you know, it's simple enough, like honestly, Hogan,
<v Speaker 4>Yes he had the completed tire change, but even the
<v Speaker 4>stupid fucking painted on beard made a huge difference, Yes,
<v Speaker 4>in how we perceived Hulk Hogan. Okay, so simple, and
<v Speaker 4>I think that this is this is Hollywood John Cena.
<v Speaker 4>This is what we need to see. We need to
<v Speaker 4>see Hollywood John Cena. A John Cena that completely embraces
<v Speaker 4>like that smarminess of his Hollywood world, wearing the three
<v Speaker 4>piece suits.
<v Speaker 6>And a John Cena just like you say, who now
<v Speaker 6>has made enough of a name for himself outside of wrestling. Yeah,
<v Speaker 6>and kind of dined with kings and queens in the
<v Speaker 6>elite in Hollywood to where he can actually look at
<v Speaker 6>these people and go, I don't have to do this anymore.
<v Speaker 6>I don't have to carry on this front anymore. Not
<v Speaker 6>that you people never respected me, No, I never respect
<v Speaker 6>to do that because now now I have the license
<v Speaker 6>to be able to express this without losing my livelihood
<v Speaker 6>or losing my my pole positions.
<v Speaker 4>He he he declared his his retirement tour. He said,
<v Speaker 4>this is it. So I got no need I got
<v Speaker 4>you know, I'm not I'm not out there hoping that
<v Speaker 4>you'll you'll pay for a next show. I'm not out
<v Speaker 4>in there out there hoping that you know, you'll you'll
<v Speaker 4>still like me. This is it. I'm done, and I'm
<v Speaker 4>gonna go out of my terms and I say fuck
<v Speaker 4>you all.
<v Speaker 6>And and does that foreclose on where they're inevitably going
<v Speaker 6>by the end of twenty twenty five where he sees
<v Speaker 6>the light again and turns babyface for the for the
<v Speaker 6>for the final chapter, if he goes that far, can
<v Speaker 6>he do that?
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, of course he can. People will want that. People
<v Speaker 4>will want that, people will want him to to to
<v Speaker 4>see the light, you know, the only way he should
<v Speaker 4>redeem himself at some point he should he should have
<v Speaker 4>and and honestly it should have been all rock Honestly
<v Speaker 4>that that's that's the I'm shocked that that something. I mean,
<v Speaker 4>obviously it happens and Dwayne just comes and goes as
<v Speaker 4>he pleases, but it should have you know that that
<v Speaker 4>should have led to Honestly, it should have led to
<v Speaker 4>a scene a rock match that that culminated in this
<v Speaker 4>And we had seen a rock three, you know, we
<v Speaker 4>had that. We finally got the rubber match. And it's
<v Speaker 4>it's so it's so simple, and uh, you know, he
<v Speaker 4>should have come out he the first time we see him.
<v Speaker 4>He should come out he's bald, full beard, three piece
<v Speaker 4>suit like he wears. And I know I've I've heard
<v Speaker 4>criticism about the Cody thing. Listen, I don't think one
<v Speaker 4>anyone can wear a suit and it works. You know,
<v Speaker 4>it works. You don't need to be just this one
<v Speaker 4>person saying. I mean, like, like you know, that's the thing.
<v Speaker 4>You know, if and if what it should be is
<v Speaker 4>that if co he's wearing whatever suit, Let's say he's
<v Speaker 4>wearing I don't know, I don't I don't know, you know,
<v Speaker 4>designers or anything like that. I'll just all just say it,
<v Speaker 4>like if he's wearing like a sure and then SCENEA
<v Speaker 4>should be wearing like an Armani shit on Ourmani suit.
<v Speaker 6>If you think something like that, Sena and Cody face
<v Speaker 6>to face, both wearing suits is less money than Cody
<v Speaker 6>wearing a suit and Sena dressed like a fourteen year old.
<v Speaker 6>I don't even know what to tell.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean because also they can be different colors,
<v Speaker 4>like Cody seems to always wear light gray suits, right,
<v Speaker 4>not what he mostly wears. No, no, he wears all shades. Okay,
<v Speaker 4>well I would say for this program he should wear
<v Speaker 4>to make a difference, if you really, if you want
<v Speaker 4>to make a difference, he should wear, like some a
<v Speaker 4>lighter gray suit and Sina should wear a darker suit.
<v Speaker 4>And the point isn't that they look the same. The
<v Speaker 4>point is Seena is wearing a suit, Sina wearing a
<v Speaker 4>suit as a heel. We saw it on Total bellas
<v Speaker 4>I mean.
<v Speaker 6>And also, let's be honest, John Cena, who thinks he's
<v Speaker 6>like we see he graduated into some higher level of
<v Speaker 6>ass and consciousness is impossible to like. Yes, and that's
<v Speaker 6>he's never put that on WWT. Frustrating to watch as
<v Speaker 6>a human, yes, correct, right? When you watch when struggle
<v Speaker 6>him to try to be a human motivation calendar, you
<v Speaker 6>know those things you put on the wall, it's say
<v Speaker 6>character or a picture of a whale. He wants to
<v Speaker 6>be the human body the embodiment if that's some point
<v Speaker 6>on the line. Some PR analytics, some PR consultant convinced
<v Speaker 6>him that that's the way forward. And that's when he
<v Speaker 6>started with those motivational tweets and stuff like he's trying
<v Speaker 6>to sell me energy supplements or something, or trying to
<v Speaker 6>sell me, uh, you know, some kind of vitamin or
<v Speaker 6>or some kind of liver that I have to eat
<v Speaker 6>six times a day. It's like, dude, like stop, Like,
<v Speaker 6>no one's turning to you for motivation. Just be John
<v Speaker 6>Cena that he saw in himself the need to do
<v Speaker 6>that is heal. It's obnoxious, and so he's not going there.
<v Speaker 4>He's not. He's not.
<v Speaker 6>He's not like you said, he's not coming out and
<v Speaker 6>saying all along, I was kind of rolling my eyes
<v Speaker 6>at what worked, you know, not not not that you hate,
<v Speaker 6>not that you rejected me. That's not why I'm turning heel.
<v Speaker 6>I'm turning heel because finally I'm in a position in
<v Speaker 6>my life where I don't have to be this fucking
<v Speaker 6>clown anymore and I can truly express how better I am.
<v Speaker 4>Then, And he could also do the whole thing. You know,
<v Speaker 4>he had to cater to the you know, he did
<v Speaker 4>the same thing in a way Hogan had to do.
<v Speaker 4>Or he's he's kissing the babies, you know, he's like
<v Speaker 4>he's catering, he's doing the make a wish things like
<v Speaker 4>how great would it have been if he if he
<v Speaker 4>just if he said I fucking hated doing all that shit?
<v Speaker 6>Right, Instead, he comes out and says, I've been in
<v Speaker 6>an abusive relationship with you, the fans.
<v Speaker 4>I mean again, you know what again? I could I
<v Speaker 4>could deal with that. I could deal with that. If
<v Speaker 4>he changed his look, I could deal with I could
<v Speaker 4>deal with with with with his sentiments about about dealing
<v Speaker 4>like having been abused by the fans. If he just
<v Speaker 4>came out looking different.
<v Speaker 6>But if I can see your socks, the top of
<v Speaker 6>your socks, it's a non starter.
<v Speaker 4>Right, if you're wearing shorts that go below your knees.
<v Speaker 4>I'm not happy and we kicked it a I thought
<v Speaker 4>maybe it could work that he came out with, like,
<v Speaker 4>you know, shin high dark black shorts. I don't know
<v Speaker 4>he struggled.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.
<v Speaker 4>I still don't know what he what he could have
<v Speaker 4>wrestled as I mean, I'll just say I've made versions
<v Speaker 4>of him in in the in my game to just
<v Speaker 4>get an idea as to what he could look like
<v Speaker 4>as a heel wrestler, because it just you can't wear
<v Speaker 4>the shorts. You can't wear the jorts right as as
<v Speaker 4>a heel wrestler. And what else did we talk about?
<v Speaker 4>We talked about how long you can wait before you
<v Speaker 4>lay eyes on him.
<v Speaker 6>That's the key thing. And I'm sorry I noticed it.
<v Speaker 6>I paid attention. I didn't. I didn't have my finger
<v Speaker 6>on the pulse every second of my life. But as
<v Speaker 6>soon as he showed up, it was downhill. It wasn't
<v Speaker 6>it didn't crash out. But I'll tell you people were
<v Speaker 6>more interested in him when he wasn't on team.
<v Speaker 4>Course, of course, because people are. I think too. I
<v Speaker 4>think people were expecting something different. That was the key.
<v Speaker 4>People wanted to see something different. And the moment you
<v Speaker 4>see that again, I think, I think so much could
<v Speaker 4>have been saved. Again, I don't know how bad it
<v Speaker 4>actually got, but I think, from what you're telling me,
<v Speaker 4>so much could have been saved if he looked different.
<v Speaker 4>We said the same thing about Roman reigns for years,
<v Speaker 4>for years. Second he switched the look up. He was
<v Speaker 4>one of the biggest money players they've ever had. Yep,
<v Speaker 4>and he turned heel too. You know, all these things
<v Speaker 4>that we that we we talked about and it became
<v Speaker 4>the biggest, the biggest thing in wrestling in in years.
<v Speaker 6>And I watch him back that they did like the
<v Speaker 6>seth Rollins Roman Reigns Rivalries documentary thing on Ane and
<v Speaker 6>they're showing Roman in those years that he was struggling
<v Speaker 6>to be accepted as the you know, the company chosen
<v Speaker 6>babyface and he looked so goofy. He had like the
<v Speaker 6>thin side burns. At a point on the side, he
<v Speaker 6>had just a goateee with no full beard. He had
<v Speaker 6>like contacts that colored his eyes differently than asshole.
<v Speaker 4>He had the flak.
<v Speaker 6>Vest everywhere he went like, who's gonna wear a vest
<v Speaker 6>like that and be a world champion?
<v Speaker 4>What are you guys doing? What's gonna take off of him?
<v Speaker 4>You're a idiot.
<v Speaker 6>Second, we took it off, the fucking and let grew
<v Speaker 6>the beard out. The registers started firing like, come on, guys,
<v Speaker 6>Jesus Christ.
<v Speaker 4>It's it's simple. It's simple. Sid said it all the time.
<v Speaker 4>It's real simple. So Sina, you know, okay. One of
<v Speaker 4>the other brilliant things we talked about in my opinion,
<v Speaker 4>and I guess this isn't possible now that we realize
<v Speaker 4>that Rock wasn't quite as central to all of this
<v Speaker 4>as we may have been led to believe after that
<v Speaker 4>first angle is Rock does a lot of the talking
<v Speaker 4>for John Rock should have been again, I believe, to
<v Speaker 4>really make this into a killer program and really make
<v Speaker 4>John Cena into this, like you know, really get the
<v Speaker 4>uh the interest factor up is that you promise Sena
<v Speaker 4>and you get Rock instead several times, right, and and
<v Speaker 4>Rock says, you know, he comes out and who wha
<v Speaker 4>wha wha who whoa who who whoa whoa whoa.
<v Speaker 3>Whoaoa, My man is out of here.
<v Speaker 4>Yet he's not coming out, you know, like you just
<v Speaker 4>you tease it and you say, you know, he says
<v Speaker 4>he's going to come out, and he never comes out.
<v Speaker 4>He never comes out, and it's Rock the whole time.
<v Speaker 4>And listen, I know that that would get old pretty fast,
<v Speaker 4>which is why you have to do it only like
<v Speaker 4>two or three times, right, all right, every other week, yeah,
<v Speaker 4>two or three times.
<v Speaker 6>He had this European tour and you know that they
<v Speaker 6>penciled in before they decided seen it was turning heel.
<v Speaker 6>So this is going to be seen as last time
<v Speaker 6>in these European cities, and they wanted to market that
<v Speaker 6>and merchandise that, and they didn't have the courage to
<v Speaker 6>sacrifice that to make this as good as a case.
<v Speaker 4>I just didn't have the courage. Yeah, that's my that's that.
<v Speaker 4>I agree with you. That's the biggest that's it's so pathetic.
<v Speaker 4>It's pathetic.
<v Speaker 1>You know.
<v Speaker 6>I heard Triple A turning interview say, you know, I
<v Speaker 6>just wish fans would stop being critics and just be fans.
<v Speaker 6>And I'm thinking to myself, Hey, trips, Okay, once you
<v Speaker 6>grow up to be like fucking ten years old, the
<v Speaker 6>only thing that keeps you a wrestling fan is being
<v Speaker 6>a critic of it.
<v Speaker 4>That's it.
<v Speaker 6>As soon as you realize it's all phony, blogey nonsense
<v Speaker 6>and that these guys aren't tough as far as like
<v Speaker 6>real fighters compared to UFC, you stop caring about the business.
<v Speaker 4>That way.
<v Speaker 6>The only reason you have thirty forty year long fans
<v Speaker 6>is because they become critics and they become interested in
<v Speaker 6>the behind the scenes. They're so don't look exactly, so
<v Speaker 6>don't be looking that gift horse in the mouth. Don't
<v Speaker 6>give me that shit, Like that's not half the reason
<v Speaker 6>you're where you're at by understanding the psychology of the
<v Speaker 6>critic more than the fan. Give me a fucking break.
<v Speaker 6>So here we are, here, we are fantasy booking in
<v Speaker 6>your face, and what are you going to do about it?
<v Speaker 6>Besides absolutely nothing? So here's Rock and he's not He's
<v Speaker 6>obviously not available sufficiently to pull this off, which really
<v Speaker 6>begs the question, why do we have anything to do
<v Speaker 6>with Rock and imglimination Chamber? Can we just kick Cody
<v Speaker 6>and the balls and go off on his own?
<v Speaker 4>Something to do with it? Well? Even more so, what
<v Speaker 4>do you do if you're not going to be on TV?
<v Speaker 4>I mean unless something crazy came up at the last minute,
<v Speaker 4>But I can't imagine that he could manufacture safe Like
<v Speaker 4>why even do the whole Cody thing? Like what what's
<v Speaker 4>the point of that? We questioned, like we thought there
<v Speaker 4>was we thought that there was a reason. Finally with
<v Speaker 4>the whole johnsona Hill turn, and it's like it actually
<v Speaker 4>made sense and it kind of for a moment, for
<v Speaker 4>a brief second, forgave all that Rock shit. I then
<v Speaker 4>I am not going to be fooled okay into thinking
<v Speaker 4>that just because they figured out a way to make
<v Speaker 4>it seem like this was the plan all along, that
<v Speaker 4>it was the plan all along.
<v Speaker 6>I respect, I respect the craftsmanship of coming up with
<v Speaker 6>something where it's like, let's actually take the time to
<v Speaker 6>tie up loose ends here and let's try to make
<v Speaker 6>this seem like this is actually a natural extension of
<v Speaker 6>four other things we just threw out there because we
<v Speaker 6>knew Dwayne could make the show. And when Dwayne shows up,
<v Speaker 6>he writes all of his stuff, and anything anybody else
<v Speaker 6>had in mind for him just disappears. And they take
<v Speaker 6>the time to try to reverse engineer and make all
<v Speaker 6>the dots connect, which is good. I prefer they do
<v Speaker 6>that then not do that. But that is not the
<v Speaker 6>same as them launching a master plan and Rock giving
<v Speaker 6>us this line of like, you know, just let it
<v Speaker 6>play out and know your role and shut your mouth.
<v Speaker 6>It's like, we've seen him flail, We've seen him directionless
<v Speaker 6>before the crowd. We've seen him do things that if
<v Speaker 6>this was the plan all along visa VI Cody on
<v Speaker 6>the first Netflix Raw, that he never would have done.
<v Speaker 6>He's just you know, he knew he pinned Cody last year, right, right,
<v Speaker 6>that's where all this discussion starts.
<v Speaker 4>Why did he do that?
<v Speaker 6>And the answer to that does not comport with where
<v Speaker 6>they went, And the answer to that is he is
<v Speaker 6>going to wrestle Cody at WrestleMania this year.
<v Speaker 4>Now.
<v Speaker 6>Meltzer recently reported that around August, Rock's management kind of
<v Speaker 6>made the call to WWE that Rock wouldn't be able
<v Speaker 6>to do the match against Cody this year. Now, that
<v Speaker 6>doesn't mean that Rock doesn't see something bubbling and want
<v Speaker 6>to be part of it, especially in vague Gus home
<v Speaker 6>base for TKO in a lot of ways, and this
<v Speaker 6>big Allegiance stadium to night or remember when all this
<v Speaker 6>is going on, we still thought WrestleMania was going to
<v Speaker 6>be in Minneapolis this year. And if you think Rock
<v Speaker 6>was excited about doing WrestleMania in Minneapolis, you don't know Rock.
<v Speaker 6>So here he is as it becomes Vegas, and all
<v Speaker 6>of a sudden, it's this big fucking you know, tourism
<v Speaker 6>bureau play or whatever it is they're negotiating over there,
<v Speaker 6>and this is my read, and he's like, you know,
<v Speaker 6>actually I need to insinuate myself here.
<v Speaker 4>This is too hot.
<v Speaker 6>So he comes back on that SmackDown in New Orleans,
<v Speaker 6>announces that WRESTLEMANI to be a New Orleans next year
<v Speaker 6>and gets that Glory is the is the board member,
<v Speaker 6>and then shifts to the guy that wants Cody's soul.
<v Speaker 6>It's like, where the fuck is this coming from? Exactly,
<v Speaker 6>it's just him saying, I want to have something to
<v Speaker 6>do with WrestleMania, even if I'm not wrestling Cody. He
<v Speaker 6>said in the post show press conference after that SmackDown.
<v Speaker 6>You know, we think of different ways of telling stories.
<v Speaker 6>I work closely with Paul and it doesn't always Why
<v Speaker 6>does it always have to end in a match?
<v Speaker 4>Oh?
<v Speaker 6>I don't know, Rock, because that's the only reason anybody
<v Speaker 6>cares about the wrestling business. Maybe that's why, because if
<v Speaker 6>there's no match, then it's it's Vince Rusou nineteen ninety nine,
<v Speaker 6>Nitro and you know it. Anyway, it was still, you know,
<v Speaker 6>interesting stuff what he was doing with Cody and they
<v Speaker 6>came up with this elimination chamber thing. It's like, great, well,
<v Speaker 6>Rock's locked in to at least be part of the
<v Speaker 6>scenery through WrestleMania, which is great. That's hugely additive. They
<v Speaker 6>did that when he was the guest host for the
<v Speaker 6>Sena Miss Wrestlemanian. It was a huge success. That fucking
<v Speaker 6>match dies without Rock's involvement. So that's a role that
<v Speaker 6>can be very viable to make a WrestleMania feel special.
<v Speaker 6>But whatever happened, I don't know what it is. Meltzer
<v Speaker 6>said some cryptic things about how you know my takeaway,
<v Speaker 6>and I think the takeaway he wanted people to have
<v Speaker 6>without directly saying it is that Cody and Sina went
<v Speaker 6>out there when they were first face to face and
<v Speaker 6>didn't mention Rock, and Rock may have expected them to,
<v Speaker 6>may have expected them to keep him alive as part
<v Speaker 6>of this story, and purposely decided between the two that
<v Speaker 6>we're going to de emphasize Rock and we're not even
<v Speaker 6>going to talk about him as being a reason that
<v Speaker 6>we're butting heads, and we're going to come up with
<v Speaker 6>this story where it was. It was always going to
<v Speaker 6>come down to this between us. You know, it was
<v Speaker 6>always about who the quarterback of WW is and our
<v Speaker 6>history when seen it was the top guy and Cody
<v Speaker 6>was the young boy and all that shit stupid. We'll see,
<v Speaker 6>we'll see how, We'll see how it hits, how it
<v Speaker 6>hits you, but just because you know, we can grade
<v Speaker 6>it for what it is without there being a umpteeth
<v Speaker 6>better idea not happening coloring that that decision. It was
<v Speaker 6>actually one of the honestly best uses of Rock, you know,
<v Speaker 6>since last WrestleMania.
<v Speaker 4>I was like, this is great. I again, I didn't
<v Speaker 4>think that at the beginning, but I really enjoyed it.
<v Speaker 4>Once the heel turn happened, I was like, this is
<v Speaker 4>a great use of him where he can perfect, he
<v Speaker 4>can play at this Hollywood thing like, it's so great.
<v Speaker 4>They're in the same he was forced into. Remember he
<v Speaker 4>was forced in a turn. You know, he's the tag
<v Speaker 4>team situation last year. He wanted It was clear they
<v Speaker 4>thought Russelman forty Rock Roman, we can get the people
<v Speaker 4>to want that. They had that big family tree thing
<v Speaker 4>on the screen when they did the Las Vegas press
<v Speaker 4>conference and people shout all over that, and then it
<v Speaker 4>took the turn that it did. But that tree was
<v Speaker 4>drawn up for a reason. That tree was drawn up
<v Speaker 4>because they wanted to tell the story of the Samoa
<v Speaker 4>dynasty collision and the true tribal chief, which got a
<v Speaker 4>huge reaction. Went on the first raw of last year
<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty four, he mentioned or should I try to
<v Speaker 4>should I try to sit at the head of the table,
<v Speaker 4>and everyone went ape shit. But when it came right
<v Speaker 4>down to it and they realized that this is going
<v Speaker 4>to get in the way of Cody having a chance
<v Speaker 4>to finish the story, they picked Cody finishing the story
<v Speaker 4>and he had to and credit to the credit to
<v Speaker 4>Dwayne for this, he had to kind of define himself
<v Speaker 4>down a bit. It was about Cody and Roman and
<v Speaker 4>Cody winning the belt, and he can find a place there,
<v Speaker 4>but it's not going to be about him and Roman
<v Speaker 4>and subjecting Cody to a match with Seth for the
<v Speaker 4>secondary world title, which clearly was on the drawing board
<v Speaker 4>at one point. Anyway, that's all ancient history, but it
<v Speaker 4>is relevant here because that's kind of the pretext. Rock
<v Speaker 4>Is already tried to try to bulldoze into a certain
<v Speaker 4>position and got rejected, and the fans just said no, Like,
<v Speaker 4>if you do this, it's gonna be a fucking nightmare.
<v Speaker 4>And all anyone's gonna talk about is Cody the whole
<v Speaker 4>time while you try to make us care about Rock Roman.
<v Speaker 4>And then we come through it this year and I
<v Speaker 4>feel like he tried to find a way to be
<v Speaker 4>a babyface to Cody so that he could do something else,
<v Speaker 4>execute something else without friction. Remember he made up with
<v Speaker 4>Cody on that disastrous and stupid thing where Cody stood
<v Speaker 4>literally in the crowd while Rock praised him, Like why
<v Speaker 4>why Cody wrote the WB champion standing in the audience? Successful?
<v Speaker 6>So weird are and their friends and they're drinking Teamana
<v Speaker 6>and all that, and then he comes back with this
<v Speaker 6>new one of like, actually, I.
<v Speaker 4>Want your soul because I'm the real boss.
<v Speaker 6>He's the real boss, by the way, you know, why
<v Speaker 6>isn't he doing anything about this this Cody's seen this
<v Speaker 6>scene a thing.
<v Speaker 4>Why isn't he insinuating himself in some way if he's
<v Speaker 4>the boss?
<v Speaker 6>But yeah, that's a whole string of it, and it's
<v Speaker 6>it's relevant because as you were saying, and I agree
<v Speaker 6>wholeheartedly that if Dwayne was the driving force of this thing,
<v Speaker 6>and we heard very little from Sena, if anything from Sena,
<v Speaker 6>that's the money, yep.
<v Speaker 4>Because to me, the I mean the the the end
<v Speaker 4>game should be. You know, hopefully I would like to
<v Speaker 4>see Cody and Dwayne go at it. I think that
<v Speaker 4>would be great. I think that should I should have
<v Speaker 4>a big money match. I think it'd be great, and
<v Speaker 4>I think, you know, I think what would be great too?
<v Speaker 4>If you're asking me. Sena gets Sena. Sena sees the
<v Speaker 4>light end of the year. He and he and Dwayne
<v Speaker 4>face off in the main event of whatever pay per view.
<v Speaker 4>Dwaine beats him. Wow in his in his in his
<v Speaker 4>go home match. Wow, that's what you do, right, you
<v Speaker 4>put over you know, you lay down when you're when
<v Speaker 4>you're when you're heading out right, So he should do
<v Speaker 4>And then Dwayne becomes this ruthless killer going after Cody Codins.
<v Speaker 6>Just you know, Roctus is not in a position to
<v Speaker 6>commit like that to wrestling. It's very clear by now,
<v Speaker 6>like he needs so much, it's so weird, Like, then
<v Speaker 6>don't do it? Then why are you on the fucking board?
<v Speaker 4>Like why why? That's the thing, Like, we're not going
<v Speaker 4>to begrudge you if you don't do it. But these
<v Speaker 4>half steps nobody did, nobody, nobody cares that you weren't there.
<v Speaker 4>But the half steps revealed that he can't. He just
<v Speaker 4>can't stand being on the sideline. That that's why wrestling is,
<v Speaker 4>you know. Kim Wood talked about it right. Yeah, that's
<v Speaker 4>why wrestling is the tiger, because no matter how much
<v Speaker 4>money a Hogan makes, a Rock makes, a Sina makes,
<v Speaker 4>they're all back at the table. They're all back at
<v Speaker 4>the table because they need it. Brock, that's right. These
<v Speaker 4>people should be gone. These people should not care about
<v Speaker 4>the wrestling business another day in their lives. Even see
<v Speaker 4>him punk the money he's made. But the only thing
<v Speaker 4>that makes them feel worth it, and the only thing
<v Speaker 4>that makes them feel alive is succeeding in this the
<v Speaker 4>first business to intoxicate them, the first business to give
<v Speaker 4>them a taste stardom and to give them a kind
<v Speaker 4>of a suite of ops basically of people that they
<v Speaker 4>need to outmaneuver to really feel good about themselves.
<v Speaker 6>You know, it's like they can't. They want the politics,
<v Speaker 6>you know, they want to They want to walk into
<v Speaker 6>the lions Den and still command the most attention and
<v Speaker 6>still get the biggest paydays, and still be in the
<v Speaker 6>biggest matches. And it excites them not just to do
<v Speaker 6>it on screen, but to do what it takes behind
<v Speaker 6>the scenes.
<v Speaker 4>Reality challenged. Thank you.
<v Speaker 6>So let's start our march through how we got here,
<v Speaker 6>and let's give an honest assessment.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm ready. How would all play down? I'm excited
<v Speaker 4>as much as you can be, as much as you
<v Speaker 4>can be, Yes, exactly.
<v Speaker 6>And I think that's that's actually a really good way
<v Speaker 6>to describe WRESTLINGIA this year in most years. So let's
<v Speaker 6>talk about something that happened that I think really was
<v Speaker 6>a promising first step. It might surprise you that we're
<v Speaker 6>not going to start necessarily with anything John Cena or
<v Speaker 6>Cody Road said. We're actually going to start with something
<v Speaker 6>CM Punk said at the very beginning of the first
<v Speaker 6>raw night after the elimination chamber. It was it was incredible.
<v Speaker 3>Uh.
<v Speaker 6>They cut to the back at the very top of
<v Speaker 6>the episode and it's it's CM Punk if you can
<v Speaker 6>grab boss the link I just sent you pulling up
<v Speaker 6>in his truck in the parking lot of the arena,
<v Speaker 6>slamming the door shut and just marching into the building
<v Speaker 6>on fire. He is pissed and he's going to grab
<v Speaker 6>a microphone. And this, to me is is a page
<v Speaker 6>out of the book of like how when Hogan turned heel.
<v Speaker 6>Everybody was expressing their MORTI mortified and frustrated, pissed off
<v Speaker 6>they were. It affected everybody that and that was that
<v Speaker 6>was the emotion they had to go for that that
<v Speaker 6>everything about John if everything about John Cena was faked,
<v Speaker 6>and like, my god, someone needs to speak up for
<v Speaker 6>authenticity here. There's got to because if he's not authentic,
<v Speaker 6>then we really we are really rudderless right now, we
<v Speaker 6>really don't have an idea of where we're going and
<v Speaker 6>where we're heading.
<v Speaker 4>So here is cmpunk. If you're ready, we'll do the countdown.
<v Speaker 4>I'm ready.
<v Speaker 6>He's already made his way to this, So he stomps
<v Speaker 6>out of his truck, he makes his way down to
<v Speaker 6>the ring. Before anything happens on raw, he jumps up
<v Speaker 6>on the announced table. He grabs the microphone, and he
<v Speaker 6>looks into the camera and he gives us a very
<v Speaker 6>promising start. And we couldn't end up in a more
<v Speaker 6>different place than where This kind of leads you to
<v Speaker 6>believe they're going. So if we hit a play, it's
<v Speaker 6>in three two one play.
<v Speaker 3>Listen up, Dwayne, you bald fraud.
<v Speaker 8>You think because you're on the board of directors you're immune.
<v Speaker 3>From critcism, Well, you don't know who you're dealing with.
<v Speaker 3>You are dealing with the best in the world.
<v Speaker 4>Mike flag thrown off. Yep, middle aged.
<v Speaker 3>And crazy walk.
<v Speaker 8>After ten years and literally marched through hell to receive
<v Speaker 8>opportunities at the Big Dance. And you, mister midlife crisis,
<v Speaker 8>just to walk in when you feel like it and
<v Speaker 8>hide behind the fact that you think you're a bigger
<v Speaker 8>star than everybody here.
<v Speaker 3>I would love to say all of this to your face,
<v Speaker 3>but you have not graced us with your presence to
<v Speaker 3>do your bullshit wow.
<v Speaker 4>Wow, and that you care.
<v Speaker 9>About this business that gives you goosebumps.
<v Speaker 3>I have never been so delusional. I have never been
<v Speaker 3>so desperate to wear the crowd.
<v Speaker 4>Yes they know.
<v Speaker 3>I have never been so desperate to wear a fake
<v Speaker 3>title and proclaim myself.
<v Speaker 4>Wow, People's championship, the fake title.
<v Speaker 3>I heard it.
<v Speaker 4>Ye, look at him, correct.
<v Speaker 3>I have never been so desperate to sell my soul.
<v Speaker 4>And then he brings it back to the storyline. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>John Cena, and he's someone that can speak once think
<v Speaker 4>about their history. Oh my god, well now we can
<v Speaker 4>all see through.
<v Speaker 8>Yes, something from me in the elimination chamber, a match
<v Speaker 8>that after twenty years of hustle, loyalty, and respect, I
<v Speaker 8>gave you the benefit.
<v Speaker 3>Of the doubt when you didn't qualify.
<v Speaker 8>I thought what you did in the past secured your future.
<v Speaker 4>You're not gonna fool me.
<v Speaker 8>Twice hustle loyalty and respect for twenty plus years, and
<v Speaker 8>now everybody sees what I've known all along, that you've
<v Speaker 8>been selling all these people and all these kids bullshit.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, yes, go on Netflix and say shit, yeah,
<v Speaker 4>let's go.
<v Speaker 3>Punk who gave up the elimination Chamber.
<v Speaker 4>It wasn't me.
<v Speaker 8>You'll never see see him. Punk give up on his
<v Speaker 8>dreams made it that to WrestleMania. Ironically, mister don't quit,
<v Speaker 8>mister don't give up. You gave up on yourself, you
<v Speaker 8>gave up on all of these people, you gave up
<v Speaker 8>on all those kids.
<v Speaker 4>I like too that he's talking to like not talking
<v Speaker 4>to the hard camera, and.
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna getting my hands on the both of you,
<v Speaker 3>bald fraud. Yes, you're gonna make a wish that I.
<v Speaker 4>Never look at that and we payed out. I mean,
<v Speaker 4>that's okay money, that's turn it over to Phil. Okay,
<v Speaker 4>that's step one. That's great, that's what Yes, that's great.
<v Speaker 4>I mean that's you know again that that's like what
<v Speaker 4>you you're talking about, like you make it. You make
<v Speaker 4>it a problem with everybody. Everybody's got a problem. That's
<v Speaker 4>when it becomes like you have the power. I mean,
<v Speaker 4>you're gonna tell me that that that that everyone commenting
<v Speaker 4>on Hogan was just oh, just happy to happen. And
<v Speaker 4>then that made you know, no, it's like that was
<v Speaker 4>part of the plan. You have to when something like
<v Speaker 4>that happens, everybody has to be affected, right because it
<v Speaker 4>is that you make it that important and you have
<v Speaker 4>the power to do that.
<v Speaker 6>I do wonder, you know, if Dwayne's lack of continued
<v Speaker 6>involvement traces to that promo, because that promo to me
<v Speaker 6>smacks of, oh, okay, you're gonna give me a little
<v Speaker 6>bit of leeway to call out Dwayne. I'm gonna say
<v Speaker 6>the kinds of things that he just can't come back from,
<v Speaker 6>you know, I'm gonna call out a lot of things
<v Speaker 6>that really kind of make him look like a goofball.
<v Speaker 4>Why why can't Dwayne come back from that?
<v Speaker 6>He just I don't think he's I don't think he's
<v Speaker 6>wired that way anymore. Maybe if he was live in
<v Speaker 6>the ring, but he's you know, Sina waylaid him on
<v Speaker 6>that second program they had when he called him out
<v Speaker 6>for writing things down on his hand.
<v Speaker 4>Do you remember that? Have you heard about that story?
<v Speaker 3>No?
<v Speaker 6>Rock came out when they were doing all the promo
<v Speaker 6>battles for their second WrestleMania match, and they were great promos,
<v Speaker 6>but Rock had written some reminders down on his hand
<v Speaker 6>and seen a mention that in his promo and not yes.
<v Speaker 6>Rock did not okay that he did not expect that,
<v Speaker 6>and he was frozen. You could tell he was like,
<v Speaker 6>I can't do the electrifying response to that one because
<v Speaker 6>that one actually pissed me off and I can't show
<v Speaker 6>that side of myself.
<v Speaker 4>You'd think that that would actually make him do better. Now,
<v Speaker 4>I think that when somebody kisses you off like that
<v Speaker 4>would actually that would actually stir the pod a little bit.
<v Speaker 6>I think Punk has that in him. I think Sena
<v Speaker 6>has it in him. I think actually Seth Rollins is
<v Speaker 6>showing that he has that in him. I don't think
<v Speaker 6>Rock has that in him. It fully does, you know
<v Speaker 6>when he goes to that place a flair, But I
<v Speaker 6>just feel like with Rock it's kind of like, oh
<v Speaker 6>wait a minute, I can't I can't give a Rock
<v Speaker 6>response to that one, and nobody you know, nobody wants
<v Speaker 6>to see Dwayne Johnson respond to something, you know, or
<v Speaker 6>least he doesn't want people to want that, whatever the
<v Speaker 6>case may be. But I thought that was just fascinating,
<v Speaker 6>and we didn't and after that, no one was mentioning
<v Speaker 6>Rock hardly at all. I think the next promo that
<v Speaker 6>Cody didn't smack down, as we'll get to, he did
<v Speaker 6>mention Rock, and it still seemed like Rock was going
<v Speaker 6>to be part of the menager here. But now pretty
<v Speaker 6>soon it was just no one was talking about him,
<v Speaker 6>and I do have to wonder, you know, if he
<v Speaker 6>saw that, I was just like, fuck this, Like I'm
<v Speaker 6>walking into a situation. Wow, I am now cast as
<v Speaker 6>somebody that is an interloper, you know what I mean.
<v Speaker 4>That's disappointing that he doesn't have the fucking balls to
<v Speaker 4>agree with that.
<v Speaker 6>That's a supposition on my part. I'm sure he would
<v Speaker 6>absolutely disagree with that characterization. Or I'm just looking at timelines.
<v Speaker 6>I'm just looking at timelines all I'm doing and trying to,
<v Speaker 6>you know, suss out cause and effect.
<v Speaker 1>He's a lapsed fan wrestling podcast with Jack and JP Sorrow.
<v Speaker 2>He's a lapsed fan wrestling podcast.
<v Speaker 6>So yeah, that that was just great and everybody was
<v Speaker 6>talking about that promo and what's the key Sino was
<v Speaker 6>not on this show yep, seen and did not talk,
<v Speaker 6>He did not appear yep. And it got the program
<v Speaker 6>over better than it ever did when he did pick
<v Speaker 6>up the microphone. Yes, I think we're going to agree
<v Speaker 6>with that assessment here as we go. Randy Orton did
<v Speaker 6>something similar on SmackDown that fredday it's not worth going
<v Speaker 6>over in this format because it really wasn't that electrifying
<v Speaker 6>or anything like that like Punks was. But he was
<v Speaker 6>also saying, you know, I just can't believe that we're
<v Speaker 6>in this like world now, this almost twilight zone where
<v Speaker 6>John Sen isn't a good guy anymore. And he also
<v Speaker 6>took a page out of the book. If everyone needs
<v Speaker 6>to comment on this, right, if you're a long time
<v Speaker 6>star in the business, if you're a longtime WWE headliner,
<v Speaker 6>you have thoughts and feelings about the fact that John Cena,
<v Speaker 6>the guy that carried the company and lived up to
<v Speaker 6>this motto and this ethos for so many years now
<v Speaker 6>threw it all out the window.
<v Speaker 4>Ye should be everybody should be talking about it. I mean,
<v Speaker 4>they shouldn't talk about it every week. They should have
<v Speaker 4>just talked about it week one, because think about this too,
<v Speaker 4>you talk about, you know, everyone talking about Hulk Cogan,
<v Speaker 4>you know, being being the guy and being and having
<v Speaker 4>all that, he had a shorter tenure as the top
<v Speaker 4>guy than John Cena did. John Cena turning heel happened
<v Speaker 4>twenty years right after he won his first World championship.
<v Speaker 4>Hogan turned heel after twelve years after winning his first
<v Speaker 4>World championship. So, like, this is a huge moment, and
<v Speaker 4>not for nothing. I'm safe to say that John Cena
<v Speaker 4>may invented more pay per views than Hogan ever did,
<v Speaker 4>just because of the of the way that the pay
<v Speaker 4>per view market changed, like we're talking about in not
<v Speaker 4>in terms of name value or anything, but in some
<v Speaker 4>ways a guy who surpassed Hulk Hogan in a number
<v Speaker 4>of ways in wrestling, not necessarily in mainstream culture, but
<v Speaker 4>although certainly had a better fucking close, better fucking movie
<v Speaker 4>career so far than Hulkogan never had.
<v Speaker 6>You know, So so as somebody who like actually managed
<v Speaker 6>to mean more to WW and the idea of the enterprise.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that Hogan a guy who was so fiercely loyal
<v Speaker 4>it was annoying. Yeah, it was annoying.
<v Speaker 6>And the thing is they were loyal back to him,
<v Speaker 6>right right, you know, as much as he gave, they
<v Speaker 6>built everything around him, even when the crowd was telling
<v Speaker 6>them to absolutely don't do this.
<v Speaker 4>Everybody should have been talking about him, Yes, everybody.
<v Speaker 6>Triple EH should have had something. And I don't know, man,
<v Speaker 6>I don't know about Triple H going on the press
<v Speaker 6>conference afterwards and talking about how it's a story and
<v Speaker 6>it's going to play.
<v Speaker 4>Out and we've got ideas and you know, it's one
<v Speaker 4>of the things that always makes me laugh. Blah blah.
<v Speaker 4>I don't know.
<v Speaker 6>I mean, it's funny to see Triple H do these
<v Speaker 6>interviews about like kind of being uncomfortable with giving away
<v Speaker 6>things about behind the scenes before they culminate, but afterwards
<v Speaker 6>it being okay, you know, after a few months you
<v Speaker 6>can look back and to which I agree with in
<v Speaker 6>theory for sure. Yet he also goes and he also
<v Speaker 6>went in on old wrestlers who do podcasts, who pine
<v Speaker 6>for the days of k fade and then they do
<v Speaker 6>podcasts giving the business away and all every secret of
<v Speaker 6>everything they used to do. A couple of things. One
<v Speaker 6>I thought the passage of time was okay. How about
<v Speaker 6>forty years, Maybe that's an okay time to start talking
<v Speaker 6>about it. If two months is okay and you'll book
<v Speaker 6>triple A. But at the same time, yeah, because they
<v Speaker 6>want to make money, that's not all is about then,
<v Speaker 6>and the fact that someone's willing to pay them to
<v Speaker 6>tell the secrets is all it's about.
<v Speaker 4>Now.
<v Speaker 6>You know, these guys are not going to pass up books.
<v Speaker 6>And if these things existed, if these ways to make
<v Speaker 6>money off their experiences existed at the time ca Fabe
<v Speaker 6>was alive, and well they had taken the money then too,
<v Speaker 6>we better believe it, or they would have leveraged it
<v Speaker 6>to try to get another payday out of the wrestling business.
<v Speaker 6>The threat to tell, you know, to kiss and tell,
<v Speaker 6>so to speak.
<v Speaker 4>So that that's that.
<v Speaker 6>But I do think it hurts a little bit that that,
<v Speaker 6>you know, that they got to walk around talking about
<v Speaker 6>story and talking about this as being a plot line
<v Speaker 6>and all that, like, you know, I.
<v Speaker 4>Mean, yeah, but you know what, I think. I don't
<v Speaker 4>know that that didn't that wouldn't bothered me as much,
<v Speaker 4>That wouldn't bothered me as much. That doesn't bother me
<v Speaker 4>as much as I can I can deal with the
<v Speaker 4>fact of.
<v Speaker 6>Of like it takes away Triple H being able to
<v Speaker 6>express his personal disappointment.
<v Speaker 4>Sure, and you know what, maybe he shouldn't. Maybe he shouldn't,
<v Speaker 4>Maybe he shouldn't do it. If if that's if that's
<v Speaker 4>the case, and he needs to go out and talk
<v Speaker 4>about that, then he shouldn't talk about John Cena. It's interesting,
<v Speaker 4>But you could have other people do it, for sure.
<v Speaker 4>Imagine that.
<v Speaker 6>Imagine if if Triple H, in all the media they
<v Speaker 6>do for wrestling a New Week just said I'm not
<v Speaker 6>going to talk about John Cena.
<v Speaker 4>It just let him that. That'd be great. You imagine
<v Speaker 4>how electric that would be. Love it.
<v Speaker 6>But he's like in the Creator Road and all that ship,
<v Speaker 6>and he's got to be seen as that kind of thing.
<v Speaker 6>So you know, and the thing, the thing that that
<v Speaker 6>I think would have is is so important when when
<v Speaker 6>when Hogan turned heel, all right, when Hogan turned heel,
<v Speaker 6>it wasn't just like people coming out.
<v Speaker 4>Talking about it. That was what everyone was talking about.
<v Speaker 4>The commentators were talking about out the entire show. Yes,
<v Speaker 4>that's what you gotta do. And it's like, yeah, you
<v Speaker 4>want to focus another but for two for a few weeks,
<v Speaker 4>you can spend that time just talking about john sona if.
<v Speaker 6>You have a once in a generation Hill turn yep,
<v Speaker 6>that it justifies talking about little else for the entirety
<v Speaker 6>of television between Raw and WrestleMania, the Rye after Elimination
<v Speaker 6>Chamber and WrestleMania in this I mean, they brought it
<v Speaker 6>up every week, but it needs to be on everybody's
<v Speaker 6>mind the whole time. Everyone on the roster needs to
<v Speaker 6>give their thoughts on it, and you keep seeing a
<v Speaker 6>sparse like it hardly hear from it.
<v Speaker 4>And it made it great too because guys who had
<v Speaker 4>nothing to do with Hogan were taking time to talk
<v Speaker 4>about it, you know, That's how That's what made it
<v Speaker 4>so impactful was that there were people who weren't even
<v Speaker 4>involved with any of his storylines since he came to WCW,
<v Speaker 4>and they're talking about it because Hulk Hogan means that
<v Speaker 4>much to so many people. John still that guy.
<v Speaker 6>Case in point, after that fiery promo where Punk did
<v Speaker 6>a better promo than I would argue either Cody or
<v Speaker 6>Seen It even came close to doing, and lead up
<v Speaker 6>to the show about the heart of the matter, Punk
<v Speaker 6>right after what we just watched it turns his attention
<v Speaker 6>to Seth Rollins. Seth Rollins come out, they brawl, and
<v Speaker 6>we're on our way to setting up the Seth Roman
<v Speaker 6>triple threat at WrestleMania for the Night one main event, and.
<v Speaker 4>Like would have went great is if you know Seth
<v Speaker 4>Rollins even comes out and says and says something like say,
<v Speaker 4>you know, before you and I get started, I got
<v Speaker 4>to say something too exactly. That's all it takes. Seriously,
<v Speaker 4>it makes it, It makes it, It takes it above,
<v Speaker 4>It makes it something more important than just like this match, and.
<v Speaker 6>You spread it out over more than just one week.
<v Speaker 6>You have six people on both shows that need to
<v Speaker 6>comment on this, and for six weeks they say their
<v Speaker 6>peace on it, you know what I mean? You drag
<v Speaker 6>it out like I just can't emphasize enough how much
<v Speaker 6>bigger this felt before seen his promo. Yeah, I'm not saying,
<v Speaker 6>we'll see what we think about the merits of that
<v Speaker 6>first promo in and of itself judged by itself, but
<v Speaker 6>given the alternative of him not talking, I think I
<v Speaker 6>think I know where I fall in terms of what
<v Speaker 6>would have been the optimal and treatment here. But no,
<v Speaker 6>I mean punk refocuses on Rollins and hardly ever mentioned
<v Speaker 6>Sena again. The way he was looking at that camera
<v Speaker 6>screaming like that, you would think the first second he
<v Speaker 6>saw John Cena, he'd be jumping on and fucking ass right,
<v Speaker 6>and that Cody who doesn't even attack Scenea the first
<v Speaker 6>time he.
<v Speaker 4>See That's what made And that's when that's when wrestling
<v Speaker 4>is at its absolute best, in my opinion, is when
<v Speaker 4>is when people aren't streamlined into their program that everything
<v Speaker 4>affects everybody, that the whole show, that the whole promotion
<v Speaker 4>is affected by everybody's actions and people, especially when something
<v Speaker 4>this big happens. Yeah, like that's what made again the
<v Speaker 4>NWS is that contect everybody? It wasn't just you know
<v Speaker 4>a few people that that Hogan and Nash and Hall
<v Speaker 4>were attacking. Should have been something like that, Like like
<v Speaker 4>what's been great too? Is that is that?
<v Speaker 10>You know?
<v Speaker 9>What?
<v Speaker 4>What if? What if too? We're not seeing John Cena, right,
<v Speaker 4>we don't see Johnson. We go with the same format
<v Speaker 4>that I that I suggest and rocks the guy. You see,
<v Speaker 4>he comes out, he cuts the promos and says, you
<v Speaker 4>know what. But at the same time, every now and again,
<v Speaker 4>a wrestler specifically, maybe somebody who down the line during
<v Speaker 4>this retirement tour that he's gonna that's Seena is gonna face.
<v Speaker 4>All of a sudden, they cut to camera backstage and
<v Speaker 4>somebody got beat up. Right, we don't know who it was,
<v Speaker 4>but we can imply that it's John Cena, and that
<v Speaker 4>John Cena is just attacking people all right, listen, lighting
<v Speaker 4>the place on fire, right exactly like you know, this
<v Speaker 4>is this is my fucking time. Have seen it come
<v Speaker 4>out at the end of Raw for the first time,
<v Speaker 4>four or five weeks after the turn, have seen him
<v Speaker 4>Punk fly out of the locker room trying to kill
<v Speaker 4>him and have Sina with some goons that cut off
<v Speaker 4>Punk and lay him out while Sina stands there, stone
<v Speaker 4>faced in a suit with the strap. Yep, well this
<v Speaker 4>isn't the belt yet, but you know, with the look
<v Speaker 4>and feel of a guy who's about to take this
<v Speaker 4>whole goddamn thing over, even Rock can do it. Rock
<v Speaker 4>can get some licks in with the belt. You know,
<v Speaker 4>That's what the heat is. You know, I get as
<v Speaker 4>people trying to get even with Sena and failing for
<v Speaker 4>what he did. I'm getting I'm getting a I'm getting Honestly,
<v Speaker 4>this is just happened to me. As we're talking about it.
<v Speaker 4>I'm getting a bad feeling. What I'm getting a bad
<v Speaker 4>feeling that we're gonna get a a A Hollywood Hogan
<v Speaker 4>two thousand and two WWE thing.
<v Speaker 6>During the course of the match. They're just gonna go
<v Speaker 6>next for Sina.
<v Speaker 4>No, no, no, that John Seena is gonna lose, and
<v Speaker 4>Cody's gonna shake his hand and they're gonna let bygones
<v Speaker 4>be bygones and that's the end of the Johnston the
<v Speaker 4>Heel experiment.
<v Speaker 6>Making me pretty depressed right now, Hey, what should they do?
<v Speaker 4>He should go over incredibly strong? Yes, yeah, so strong?
<v Speaker 4>Like like it I mean. And also it's it's a
<v Speaker 4>it's a situation where I wouldn't mind it because because
<v Speaker 4>we've already been set up for it. It's not like
<v Speaker 4>Austin Rock WrestleMania seventeen. I wouldn't mind him beating the
<v Speaker 4>shit out of Cody with a fucking chair a million
<v Speaker 4>times to win the belt, Like I wouldn't mind that
<v Speaker 4>in this because because we're not expecting him to be
<v Speaker 4>a good guy. We're not expecting like Steve Austin to
<v Speaker 4>be Steve Austin. He's already done it. He's already like
<v Speaker 4>he should just brutalize Cody Rhodes. I'm in a perfect world.
<v Speaker 4>I know this isn't gonna happen in a perfect world.
<v Speaker 4>And this is the only way, this is the only
<v Speaker 4>way to me that I would ever have Cody lose
<v Speaker 4>this championship this early. Honestly, even though it's been a
<v Speaker 4>year already, I still think, you know, after beating Roman,
<v Speaker 4>anyone who beats Roman needs to have the bell for
<v Speaker 4>quite a while to keep the value up. But I
<v Speaker 4>wouldn't I wouldn't be disappointed if Sina just fucking charges
<v Speaker 4>Cody in the fucking aisleway, beats the crap out of
<v Speaker 4>him for like ten minutes straight, just like lezarded to him.
<v Speaker 4>Nothing Cody can do, can can affect this John scene
<v Speaker 4>and just destroys Cody. Wow, because people are gonna want
<v Speaker 4>to see Cody get revenge, unlike unlike Sena. And funny enough,
<v Speaker 4>when when Lesnard destroyed him, no one wanted to see
<v Speaker 4>seen him get revenge, you know, but like people will
<v Speaker 4>want to see it happen, you know, And then you
<v Speaker 4>can do that, and you can have Cody take a
<v Speaker 4>little Codin's take a fucking you know, a little time
<v Speaker 4>off and and and lick his wounds and then come
<v Speaker 4>back stronger realizing that, you know what he took John
<v Speaker 4>Cena for granted, he took this new John Cena for granted.
<v Speaker 6>It's funny becausehen you tell about brutalizing, it's like that.
<v Speaker 6>It's the perfect thing for the Sena that we saw
<v Speaker 6>in the immediate aftermath of the heel turn in the
<v Speaker 6>ring in Toronto, with that fucking.
<v Speaker 4>Brutalized who brutalized Codin's roads.
<v Speaker 6>He looked psycho. But the Sena that's communicated since the
<v Speaker 6>Sena that's been in verbal battles with Cody, with Cody
<v Speaker 6>ever since, that's not somebody that that's going to brutalize anybody.
<v Speaker 6>I'm not not to say he couldn't do it when
<v Speaker 6>we get to Vegas, but he dropped that whole component
<v Speaker 6>of the character with that steely glad, that steely gaze.
<v Speaker 4>I don't know why they let that happen. I mean
<v Speaker 4>that was supposed to. He should have gone nuts, like
<v Speaker 4>he shouldn't have, just like than justified with his intellectual
<v Speaker 4>reasoning for all that fuck that he went nuts yeah,
<v Speaker 4>out of that's what. That's what.
<v Speaker 6>That's when you saw the money in his face and
<v Speaker 6>the elimination shape, when he showed this look he never
<v Speaker 6>once ever showed you You've never seen even when he
<v Speaker 6>was a heel, you never saw that look, right, Like
<v Speaker 6>he was tapped. Yeah, like like like again, it's it's
<v Speaker 6>it's no different. It's a better executed version of Austin
<v Speaker 6>at WrestleMania seventeen because you know, in a weird way,
<v Speaker 6>I think the heel turn would have been if you're
<v Speaker 6>going to do it, I still don't think you should
<v Speaker 6>have done it, but if you're going to do it,
<v Speaker 6>it should have happened earlier. Happening at WrestleMania was the
<v Speaker 6>biggest mistake, right, It's not just the idea, it's doing
<v Speaker 6>it as the feature go home thing for WrestleMania, the
<v Speaker 6>greatest WrestleMania like ever, right, and that way it's like no,
<v Speaker 6>that's not no, right, it's totally It's one of the
<v Speaker 6>reasons why I I I really it's still hurts to
<v Speaker 6>call it the greatest WrestleMania because that finish, it just
<v Speaker 6>leaves it's so sour, it's so bitter, even to this day, well,
<v Speaker 6>if the rest of the show sucked and they did that,
<v Speaker 6>it wouldn't be as tragic.
<v Speaker 4>It would be.
<v Speaker 6>Tragic, But the fact that it was such a wonderful
<v Speaker 6>show and then ended that way it makes an extra tragic.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, right, exactly. They had a kick ass show and
<v Speaker 4>a kick assay to make you pissed off at the end,
<v Speaker 4>right or underwhelmed, you know, right because you didn't have
<v Speaker 4>a hot finish. It was a fucking awful finish. You know,
<v Speaker 4>you want to see You want to see Austin attempt
<v Speaker 4>to stunner and Rock kicks out of Rock pushed them away,
<v Speaker 4>and then Rock goes for a rock bottom, but Austin
<v Speaker 4>is able to break out of a kick stunner Pin one,
<v Speaker 4>two three, Like, you want that kind of a finish
<v Speaker 4>with the.
<v Speaker 3>Two of them.
<v Speaker 4>You don't want a brutal or even you know, I
<v Speaker 4>could have been I could have been okay with the
<v Speaker 4>way that that Rock finished Austin in twenty nineteen twenty nine,
<v Speaker 4>Yeah no, it was twenty two thousand and three three
<v Speaker 4>WrestleMania nineteen. You know, I could have been okay with
<v Speaker 4>with Rock not going down with one stunner and he
<v Speaker 4>has to do like four stunners of the enour sunners, Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>you know, in a row to get him, to get
<v Speaker 4>him to lose. But I think that would have been
<v Speaker 4>great too. But the heel turn, it's just.
<v Speaker 6>Back to Punk quickly. One of the things I'm thinking
<v Speaker 6>watching that back is like, look, we have to believe
<v Speaker 6>in the Punk character. We can't believe that See Him
<v Speaker 6>Punk really thinks that this match with Roman and Seth
<v Speaker 6>Rollins is his WrestleMania main event.
<v Speaker 4>It's not. He knows better than that. It's better, not
<v Speaker 4>even as important as his match with Undertaker. He better
<v Speaker 4>know better than that. I'll tell you that right now.
<v Speaker 4>He better fucking know better than that, because if he
<v Speaker 4>thinks that this is a main event, he's a fucking idiot.
<v Speaker 4>Right well, well, we have to.
<v Speaker 6>Believe he's a liar as a character now, because the
<v Speaker 6>whole thing we can believe in with See Him Punk
<v Speaker 6>is he's not going to tell us that something was
<v Speaker 6>monumental unless we really, as fans that understand the business,
<v Speaker 6>or at least like to think we do, see it
<v Speaker 6>as monumental. He can't be selling us that. I mean,
<v Speaker 6>if anything, what this says to me is that he
<v Speaker 6>will never main event WrestleMania, for right, But that's where
<v Speaker 6>that's where the money could be. Is he turns around
<v Speaker 6>and actually acknowledges that, or we might be headed as
<v Speaker 6>this and I'm hoping I'm not just thinking this because
<v Speaker 6>we just happen to watch that promo which they have
<v Speaker 6>memory hold, so they have not hardly referenced it since
<v Speaker 6>it happened. Punk really, as far as I can tell,
<v Speaker 6>has never really spoken on Sena, despite being so revolted
<v Speaker 6>by him that the way he was acting there, the
<v Speaker 6>first person who attacked John Cena should be see him Punk,
<v Speaker 6>not even Cody Rhodes there but even said anything because
<v Speaker 6>he was off on his own little journey with Roman Seth,
<v Speaker 6>which has been a wonderful program in his own right.
<v Speaker 4>But but yeah, it's the same thing. It's like, you
<v Speaker 4>know again, they have these everything streamlined. Everything needs to
<v Speaker 4>be like you can't now you go in your own
<v Speaker 4>lane now, right, you can't, you can't cross over. And
<v Speaker 4>I've hated that. I've hated that. It's it's such a
<v Speaker 4>disservice like that was that was the greatest thing about
<v Speaker 4>the NWOS that it happened to everybody, everyone was affected
<v Speaker 4>by it. And everyone should be affected by John Cena.
<v Speaker 6>And so Punk is in a position where if they
<v Speaker 6>this is what they do with Punk, you know, you
<v Speaker 6>go back to him saying, you know, that was not
<v Speaker 6>he might win the triple Threat match. Then he comes
<v Speaker 6>out and says, you're not gonna bullshit me that it's
<v Speaker 6>not the reason I walked out. That is not the
<v Speaker 6>reason I am cm Punk is to believe that that
<v Speaker 6>was that was the real moment that I'm chasing. You
<v Speaker 6>know what I'm chasing. Uh, And it's and when you
<v Speaker 6>know it's rumble win title win, that's.
<v Speaker 4>It, or even just it's it's it's it's being the
<v Speaker 4>last match altogether of Wressell Marria for the championship. That's
<v Speaker 4>the main event. That's right.
<v Speaker 6>That doesn't have to be the Rumble, but that's necessary
<v Speaker 6>that that's a helpful precursor to.
<v Speaker 4>Sure of course, make it feel like they mean it.
<v Speaker 4>And I think I think Punk winning a rumble would
<v Speaker 4>be fantastic too.
<v Speaker 6>I think the time is now. So he so he
<v Speaker 6>wins the triple Threat and then he comes out. I
<v Speaker 6>don't know if they'll do something with Hayman. I don't
<v Speaker 6>know what they'll do. But then he comes out and
<v Speaker 6>Sina wins the belt just like you said, and we're
<v Speaker 6>all kind of believing that Punk's issues with with Sina
<v Speaker 6>are in the past. And then Sina goes and maybe
<v Speaker 6>defends in a rematch against Cody, and then Money in.
<v Speaker 4>The No, No, I don't think. I don't think. I
<v Speaker 4>don't think he's I think I think I think he
<v Speaker 4>should be gone. I think Coden should be gone for
<v Speaker 4>a while. He should go right away.
<v Speaker 6>That was that was Yeah, okay, I'm saying it's time
<v Speaker 6>to deemphasize Cody for a little bit because if he's
<v Speaker 6>going to lose to Sena, if he doesn't get to
<v Speaker 6>win right back, it's really going to hurt him. So
<v Speaker 6>he does disappear or maybe lose the rematch. I'll take
<v Speaker 6>your point. But money in the bank and we're back
<v Speaker 6>to the old scenario between Punk and Sena mean the bank, yep,
<v Speaker 6>And he cashes in on Sena and we get the
<v Speaker 6>rematch at like Summer Slam or something.
<v Speaker 4>And then although part of me says Punk should be
<v Speaker 4>the first one to go after it, honestly, there's part
<v Speaker 4>of me that says the title, yeah, he should be,
<v Speaker 4>like it should be he should get him May and
<v Speaker 4>June like it should be a multi month program the
<v Speaker 4>two of them, like they have a few matches.
<v Speaker 6>I like it, but I like the callback that Money
<v Speaker 6>in the Bank is to their individual history. You might
<v Speaker 6>even do it at Money in the Bank itself, like
<v Speaker 6>they had the match of winning the bank.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.
<v Speaker 6>But and at that point, probably Sena still does go over,
<v Speaker 6>and that's when Cody comes back to beat Sena when
<v Speaker 6>last time, or maybe Cody comes back to beat Seen
<v Speaker 6>at the end and a non title match and Punk
<v Speaker 6>actually beats seen It for the belt. I'm not sure there,
<v Speaker 6>but I actually prefer that Scena beats Punk in that match,
<v Speaker 6>and then you have Cody beat Seene at the end
<v Speaker 6>of the year to get the belt back. Seen It
<v Speaker 6>just like you said, realizes the error of his ways
<v Speaker 6>and marches off into the sunset, and we have that
<v Speaker 6>moment where he can be a good guy again and
<v Speaker 6>you know, an exit, and then you have Cody versus
<v Speaker 6>Punk for the title at WrestleMania next year. Sure, I
<v Speaker 6>think that might be where we have to go, but
<v Speaker 6>who knows. I'm probably overthinking Punk's role on this because
<v Speaker 6>they they kind of took a sharp turn after he
<v Speaker 6>mentioned it once, but he probably did it for a reason,
<v Speaker 6>and who knows where Dwayne factors in and all that.
<v Speaker 4>So it's just all it's all poorly done. I haven't
<v Speaker 4>even done it yet. All listen, I've got no I
<v Speaker 4>don't on it. If they if they handled this again
<v Speaker 4>as badly as I think they have based on that
<v Speaker 4>Belgium promo, I've got no faith for them afterwards regarding
<v Speaker 4>this John Cena thing and where they're going to go.
<v Speaker 6>Let's see, let's see if maybe it was better than
<v Speaker 6>you've been led to believe. So the next link I
<v Speaker 6>sent you is to the March seventh SmackDown. And this
<v Speaker 6>is the first time because with the exception of that
<v Speaker 6>cmpunk screaming on the end of the camera, and you know,
<v Speaker 6>references constantly made throughout that Monday night Rob broadcast to
<v Speaker 6>what Sina had done and showing clips of all the
<v Speaker 6>mainstream media coverage picked up and all the social media reactions.
<v Speaker 6>Cody wasn't on the show and Sina wasn't on the show,
<v Speaker 6>so they kept it open as to what Cody was
<v Speaker 6>going to say and do. The first time Cody addressed
<v Speaker 6>it was SmackDown that Friday in Usa, and here he is.
<v Speaker 6>He comes to the ring. He puts the ww Championship
<v Speaker 6>on the canvas in the center of the ring, and
<v Speaker 6>he says the following if you're ready, boss, I am ready?
<v Speaker 6>Three two one play?
<v Speaker 4>So is the ring blue? Yes? On SmackDown it is
<v Speaker 4>Jesus Christ. Oh, Philadelphia where he won the belt, see
<v Speaker 4>like gray suit of champions. Yes, city of David Lynch. Oh,
<v Speaker 4>what what have you said that? What have we said?
<v Speaker 4>The city of David Lynch.
<v Speaker 6>See the black eye he got from Travis Scott.
<v Speaker 9>Obvious question with an obvious answer. It's the most watched
<v Speaker 9>moment in WWE history and pro wrestling history. Okay, and
<v Speaker 9>there I am laying on the bottom tasting my own blood.
<v Speaker 3>What do you say to a little one not even
<v Speaker 3>four years old when she looks up at you and says, Papa,
<v Speaker 3>what happened to your face?
<v Speaker 4>It's that a conversation that I mommy said, she doesn't
<v Speaker 4>want to suck your dick anymore? What happened to your face?
<v Speaker 3>Brother? So I do old what I can only classify
<v Speaker 3>as a a cody lie.
<v Speaker 4>Ooh, a cod And I ran into a wall? Brother?
<v Speaker 4>How you you did? You ran into a wall all right,
<v Speaker 4>entirely untrue.
<v Speaker 3>I did run into the wall, a wall designed by
<v Speaker 3>the final boss, the Rock.
<v Speaker 4>So we're still mentioning him.
<v Speaker 3>His associate, Travis Scott.
<v Speaker 4>Rocks fingerprints. You can still see that, yep.
<v Speaker 9>And by my WrestleMania forty one opponent, John Sina.
<v Speaker 3>You know, I drove John around for two years, from
<v Speaker 3>show to show, from city to city.
<v Speaker 9>All I was trying to do was sponge off every
<v Speaker 9>bit of knowledge that I possibly could. I felt about John,
<v Speaker 9>how many people here felt about John?
<v Speaker 3>He who's a hero. So one day I'll tell her,
<v Speaker 3>I'll tell her what actually happened.
<v Speaker 9>I'll tell her that a great man who did great things,
<v Speaker 9>who was my model in this sport, who was the
<v Speaker 9>very definition of the word virtuous, a man who used
<v Speaker 9>to run to the ring with a T shirt and.
<v Speaker 3>Blazon on it the slogan never give up. I'll tell
<v Speaker 3>her he gave up.
<v Speaker 4>Good lie. Yeah, and I gave up on being a
<v Speaker 4>good person. Yes, I apologize for.
<v Speaker 3>Any language you might have heard. I'm doing everything I
<v Speaker 3>can to maintain my composure in this moment. John, If
<v Speaker 3>you don't owe it to me, I believe you owe
<v Speaker 3>it to them. We'd all love to know.
<v Speaker 4>Why. And see he shouldn't have gotten his answer. Why, Yeah, agreed,
<v Speaker 4>And if I.
<v Speaker 9>Know my old friend John Cena, well, I'm sure it
<v Speaker 9>will be a very smooth, well educated, well crapped retort,
<v Speaker 9>a signature amount of phrases.
<v Speaker 3>He'll probably say speech at some point in there.
<v Speaker 9>He will feel bulletproof, he will feel infallible, he will
<v Speaker 9>feel justified.
<v Speaker 3>There is no justification for you. John Sina.
<v Speaker 4>Codins is hoping that some Hollywood agents are watching him
<v Speaker 4>right now. I am oh, yeah, well aware.
<v Speaker 3>I am talking to the whole world right now. However,
<v Speaker 3>for those in this room tonight.
<v Speaker 4>This room, he says, that's a new one. He's working
<v Speaker 4>the room. Yeah, you know this story.
<v Speaker 9>You might have heard it from me in an interview
<v Speaker 9>at some point in the past. This was the one
<v Speaker 9>place that my old man was afraid to perform in.
<v Speaker 4>He's the grandson of a plumber.
<v Speaker 9>One time painted his face like the Road Warriors, so
<v Speaker 9>that he knew he was cool, so that you knew
<v Speaker 9>you could cheer for him. I never shared that same
<v Speaker 9>fear because, for reasons unknown, one time mustache on my
<v Speaker 9>face climbing alas money in the bank, briefcase for reasons unknown.
<v Speaker 3>You cheered for me, You chose me, get saddled up,
<v Speaker 3>and you rode.
<v Speaker 4>With me, roads with him. He's good about making like
<v Speaker 4>moments we all forgot about means something I don't even fuck.
<v Speaker 4>I remember him maning the money in bank match at all, just.
<v Speaker 9>Across the street, trying to finish a story that started
<v Speaker 9>in the late seventies.
<v Speaker 4>Get cheered for me, that one I remember. Yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 4>I remember being shows me my ass off for that. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>a great delivery there. You chose me again. A little
<v Speaker 4>bit of his dad in that. Yeah, that's good ship.
<v Speaker 4>He's good. A little bit of a preacher man in
<v Speaker 4>that knows how to get him on his side. Man
<v Speaker 4>sad face look at him. Yeah, speaking of Crussomania forty
<v Speaker 4>also scene it came out.
<v Speaker 3>He didn't turn the audio up.
<v Speaker 9>My old friend John Cena, and the ring celebrated my
<v Speaker 9>friends and my family.
<v Speaker 3>He looked at me, he pointed.
<v Speaker 9>At the title, and I will never forget what he said.
<v Speaker 9>He said, it gets heavier every day. Well, John, here
<v Speaker 9>I am holding this championship. It is not heavy enough.
<v Speaker 4>Here.
<v Speaker 9>I am holding this championship as I have done for
<v Speaker 9>the last three hundred and something days.
<v Speaker 3>John, I know you're watching. I know that you think
<v Speaker 3>that your successor had to look like you, had to
<v Speaker 3>talk like you, had to be like you had to
<v Speaker 3>live like you. Well, the next one.
<v Speaker 9>Doesn't look like the last one, John, and you are
<v Speaker 9>convinced that you are the last of your kind.
<v Speaker 2>You are not.
<v Speaker 3>I am standing right here, I am holding this above
<v Speaker 3>my head as.
<v Speaker 9>If it weighs nothing, and I wrestle forty one.
<v Speaker 3>I will do the same, John Cena. Clearly you want
<v Speaker 3>some come.
<v Speaker 9>And some.
<v Speaker 4>Damn butts, eat some pie, I said my dad. Yeah, good,
<v Speaker 4>great promo. And it doesn't make me kept it alive? Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>it keeps it very much alive, very much alive.
<v Speaker 6>So what's the move from there? When he says what
<v Speaker 6>he says? Do you think what should have happened? Yes,
<v Speaker 6>because I'm happy so far. Yes, I think the next
<v Speaker 6>move is again, I think they I don't know the
<v Speaker 6>next move. He wants to see John Cena. He wants
<v Speaker 6>John Cena. He needs to call out John Cena and
<v Speaker 6>John Cena doesn't show. Yes, yep, that's good for another week, Yep, yep, absolutely,
<v Speaker 6>and then that is what happens, but not in a
<v Speaker 6>way where Cody expresses frustration about it.
<v Speaker 4>Right, Cody has to be led on to think is
<v Speaker 4>exactly and then again you know, uh uh, it becomes
<v Speaker 4>it's he's announced maybe for that Belgium raw that he's
<v Speaker 4>going to be there. Codins comes down, and then we
<v Speaker 4>get the Rock, Oh my god, perfect, we get the
<v Speaker 4>Rock absolutely perfect, like even you know, actually we actually
<v Speaker 4>even be funny. Actually would be great is if they
<v Speaker 4>play scene as theme and Rock comes down instead. That'd
<v Speaker 4>be a riot. And what does Rock say to him?
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I think Rock, I think I think you
<v Speaker 4>can come up with a million excuses. I think I
<v Speaker 4>think having playing up the Hollywood thing is what is
<v Speaker 4>an another element that's missing? I think the idea of
<v Speaker 4>like I mean talking about he could even say, look,
<v Speaker 4>I got him, I got him a part in a movie,
<v Speaker 4>and he just couldn't show I got him apart in
<v Speaker 4>this next year, he's got a movie coming up. I
<v Speaker 4>got him a role on this thing, and and you know,
<v Speaker 4>unfortunately it just you know, it just happened to you know,
<v Speaker 4>coincide with this time, so he couldn't be here, but
<v Speaker 4>I'm here to talk to you, you know, And he
<v Speaker 4>says some ship and then he and then I've got it.
<v Speaker 6>I've got his ear these days, Cody. Right, So if
<v Speaker 6>you got something to say to John Cen, you can
<v Speaker 6>say it to me.
<v Speaker 4>You can listen. I'm his representative. Oh right.
<v Speaker 6>And then that casts that intimidates Cody because it's like, yeah,
<v Speaker 6>he actually is the boss. That's that's what put me
<v Speaker 6>in this position in the first place, right because Rock
<v Speaker 6>still is supposed to be mad that Cody said, go
<v Speaker 6>fuck yoursefe remember that, right, So like Rock is you know,
<v Speaker 6>I think that's that be so fucking money that Rock
<v Speaker 6>is the representative here for John Cena, you know, and
<v Speaker 6>you know whatever, even if he's not feeling a movie
<v Speaker 6>who cares like you know, some bullshit, it could be
<v Speaker 6>I mean, it'd be me great, you know you could
<v Speaker 6>I and then I'll tell you what. Another thing I
<v Speaker 6>forgot to mention before that we did talk about is
<v Speaker 6>if you know, if you need to show Sena in
<v Speaker 6>some way, I think you know you you you the
<v Speaker 6>cameras were brought to Hollywood, yes, you know, we're brought
<v Speaker 6>to a movie studio and we tried to get it
<v Speaker 6>and like you see Sina in the like they zoom
<v Speaker 6>in he's not actually talking about he like you see him,
<v Speaker 6>he's coming out, he's coming out of NOBU right exactly.
<v Speaker 6>Or he's like he's in the studio and you can't
<v Speaker 6>get past security. Yes, you know, the cameras can't get
<v Speaker 6>past security, and you see like a glimpse of him somewhere.
<v Speaker 6>You know that TMZ thing, right that that would be
<v Speaker 6>such a revolutionary thing to introduce. We've talked about how
<v Speaker 6>money of an idea it is. We're like the wrestler.
<v Speaker 6>The wrestler is only caught up to and and caught
<v Speaker 6>on camera one wrest one ww's and on television. Yeah,
<v Speaker 6>like you you just create these these fake moments where
<v Speaker 6>you know he's being spotted in public, and you can
<v Speaker 6>even do real ones. I mean, imagine how viral it
<v Speaker 6>would if we haven't seen seen on TV for four
<v Speaker 6>weeks after he did this, and like some fan catches
<v Speaker 6>him in a you know, on purpose walking around Hollywood
<v Speaker 6>or something and runs up on him and tries to
<v Speaker 6>ask him a question. Yeah, I'm like, just the thing
<v Speaker 6>gets hit, you know, like like like that, you know,
<v Speaker 6>they get this thing and then and see it just
<v Speaker 6>punches whoever it is and the camera dies, the feed dies,
<v Speaker 6>you know, like, yeah, I always think of like an
<v Speaker 6>organic real fan and knowing that that would happen and
<v Speaker 6>using that, I mean, that works too. I think, I
<v Speaker 6>think I think you could mimic that and have it
<v Speaker 6>be a thing, and then like and seeing that, like
<v Speaker 6>again you don't hear a word from his mouth and
<v Speaker 6>and you don't even get a really a crystal clear
<v Speaker 6>glimpse of him, because again you don't want to spoil
<v Speaker 6>the look so good. And actually what you could have
<v Speaker 6>done too, what you could do actually, which would be
<v Speaker 6>which would be great, is that you could pre tape
<v Speaker 6>all these things.
<v Speaker 4>True, you know, you can pretaate them so that you're
<v Speaker 4>airing them as they as they come along and acting
<v Speaker 4>as if they're you know, current. But that way you're
<v Speaker 4>not spoiling the look. He can look like his old
<v Speaker 4>self with his hair and his clean shaven face, and
<v Speaker 4>that when he when he comes out at WrestleMania, bald beard,
<v Speaker 4>and it's like, what the fuck?
<v Speaker 6>And you could also pre tape with Rock too, if
<v Speaker 6>Rock not being available as an excuse, you know, yeah,
<v Speaker 6>you could. Basically it's not as great as him coming
<v Speaker 6>out in Brussels.
<v Speaker 4>But you know, you would do something. But but but
<v Speaker 4>you don't be great. You know what Be's with his
<v Speaker 4>new client right he's on set, and you get it.
<v Speaker 4>You get because I'll tell you. One of the things
<v Speaker 4>that I used to love about nineties uh uh raw
<v Speaker 4>is when someone communicated via the Titan tron huge that
<v Speaker 4>it was such a great tool where they would argue
<v Speaker 4>with the screen and it was so great, and I
<v Speaker 4>think it was undervalued. I mean, they don't do that anymore.
<v Speaker 4>And how great would it be if if, if if
<v Speaker 4>you did have this kind of via satellite thing where
<v Speaker 4>Rock's talking to to Codin's on set that you know,
<v Speaker 4>he's in a director's chair sitting there. I mean, and
<v Speaker 4>you know crew members are walking by him and stuff
<v Speaker 4>like that. It's like, you know, I don't know.
<v Speaker 11>I just got my man a new a new film
<v Speaker 11>with Universal Studios. We're talking about another fast Furious. We're
<v Speaker 11>talking big deals, big deals happening. The Final Boss always
<v Speaker 11>signs big deals, the biggest deals in the world, you know,
<v Speaker 11>like just ship like that and it'd be great.
<v Speaker 6>Can you even have you could I'm losing my mind now,
<v Speaker 6>you could even have Ari come out. Ari could be like, yeah,
<v Speaker 6>you know, Dwayne, We're really excited about what we think
<v Speaker 6>we can do here with John. So he's part of
<v Speaker 6>that power structure. Yeah, like, hey, you know, I'm I'm
<v Speaker 6>glad we you know we got we got seen it
<v Speaker 6>in here. You know, he's part of the He's part
<v Speaker 6>of the team.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.
<v Speaker 6>You think Ari's a big wrestling fan. Get his response
<v Speaker 6>to participating in foolishness like that. Now you'll realize how
<v Speaker 6>how seriously he takes this thing. So great stuff, I mean,
<v Speaker 6>just fucking amazing. Another thing, I hope, just like I
<v Speaker 6>was saying, I really hope that this didn't end up
<v Speaker 6>being the version of this program we got just because
<v Speaker 6>they wanted to sell the European Tour merchandise. I also
<v Speaker 6>hope this didn't play out the way it did because
<v Speaker 6>they decided for some fucking reason to put a European
<v Speaker 6>tour between Elimination Chamber and WrestleMania this year. Now, the
<v Speaker 6>crowds were very enthusiastic, and they were super hot, but
<v Speaker 6>I'm sorry, John Cena needs to give his explanation in
<v Speaker 6>the garden, and they were in the garden like a
<v Speaker 6>week the night before the night after this, or two
<v Speaker 6>weeks after this. He needs to give his real He
<v Speaker 6>needs to give his reason to Chicago. He needs to
<v Speaker 6>give his reason before an audience that isn't just going
<v Speaker 6>to go completely insane no matter what they were given
<v Speaker 6>by ww on this show. Those are the shows where
<v Speaker 6>you just give them the basics because it's going to
<v Speaker 6>be an incredible atmosphere and that does the work for you.
<v Speaker 6>It's really hard to tell if this is working when
<v Speaker 6>scene is appearing before these European crowds that are going
<v Speaker 6>to go ep shit.
<v Speaker 4>Right, what right? It's really uh, it's really and that
<v Speaker 4>that's a big mistake and they know it. That's a
<v Speaker 4>big fucking mistake that they that that that that they
<v Speaker 4>you know, because any any they're excited to see everybody.
<v Speaker 4>So I just don't I think it was a bad
<v Speaker 4>It's a bad move altogether. I think so.
<v Speaker 6>I think it costs them in a lot of ways,
<v Speaker 6>to say nothing of the fact. Do you remember when
<v Speaker 6>I broke the news to you that because they were
<v Speaker 6>in Europe on Netflix for the first time, that they
<v Speaker 6>would be live at two o'clock.
<v Speaker 4>In the afternoon. Yeah, Oh, that's just miserable.
<v Speaker 6>Just so, this scene of promo and Brussels was already
<v Speaker 6>old news by the time Prime Time rolled around that
<v Speaker 6>Monday night to anybody who was following on social media.
<v Speaker 4>Which yeah, I listen. I read about it at like
<v Speaker 4>three o'clock.
<v Speaker 6>I mean, what are you guys doing? What are you
<v Speaker 6>guys doing? There's no seen as explanations. I mean at
<v Speaker 6>two o'clock in the afternoon on the mind awful, it's
<v Speaker 6>such bad business. And knowing that they had what was
<v Speaker 6>a Chicago coming up, they couldn't have just waited and
<v Speaker 6>not put him on the European tour, done exactly what
<v Speaker 6>you said and had a perfect reason and just not
<v Speaker 6>have him talk on it. But we got all this
<v Speaker 6>merchandise in the warehouse Russian space with the Belgium flag.
<v Speaker 4>You think they're not gonna buy it because he's not there,
<v Speaker 4>Come on, people were gonna People were gonna buy all
<v Speaker 4>that shit anyway because he turned heel. If he knows shows,
<v Speaker 4>people are still gonna buy it, especially because guess what
<v Speaker 4>now it's a collector's item.
<v Speaker 6>Here's a stroke of genius. I was just thinking, as
<v Speaker 6>you're talking about this, the stroke of genius is this
<v Speaker 6>only adds to the this only adds to the program.
<v Speaker 6>Wwe is like, fuck, we got all this stuff we
<v Speaker 6>printed thinking everyone was gonna be happy to see John
<v Speaker 6>Cena in Scotland and Belgium and Italy and wherever fuck
<v Speaker 6>else he went. We're still gonna make it available in
<v Speaker 6>its own perverse way. It's it's limited edition, one, one
<v Speaker 6>of a kind item, because you know, it's not like
<v Speaker 6>Sena is ever gonna wear these shirts and try to
<v Speaker 6>sell them to you ever. Again, we don't know what
<v Speaker 6>to do at WWHQ with all this stuff. If you're
<v Speaker 6>coming to one of these European tour shows, be sure
<v Speaker 6>to grab these shirts. Even though you're not supporting John
<v Speaker 6>Cena by doing it, you're just kind of getting a
<v Speaker 6>keepsake of what could have been. It's almost like, you know,
<v Speaker 6>like a defect baseball card that gets out into the market,
<v Speaker 6>you know, and it becomes like this huge collector's item
<v Speaker 6>because there's a mistake and they pulled it back, so
<v Speaker 6>it's like rare. You know, you two can get the
<v Speaker 6>shirts we printed thinking John Sena was going to be
<v Speaker 6>a hero, but he doesn't even show up. Yeah, I
<v Speaker 6>actually exactly that exactly, but you know, who are we know?
<v Speaker 6>So that's Cody's promo and It's very solid. It keeps
<v Speaker 6>it alive. I was worried that if he was just
<v Speaker 6>going to address Sena in kind of like a vacuum,
<v Speaker 6>that it wouldn't work out. But I'm still hooked. He's
<v Speaker 6>saying the right things. He's keeping me interested in seeing
<v Speaker 6>what scene is going to turn around and say. So
<v Speaker 6>the next link I've sent you is to me, at
<v Speaker 6>least having watched this stuff play out the first time.
<v Speaker 6>It got a little awkward because Cody on Friday, you know,
<v Speaker 6>basically lays the gauntlet down, says the things to get
<v Speaker 6>under John Cena's skin, you know, calls into question his
<v Speaker 6>whole ethos and his whole self image, tries to preemptively
<v Speaker 6>counter what the things Sina would be saying and speechifying
<v Speaker 6>around justifying his actions and going right ahead and saying
<v Speaker 6>before you even try, John, there is no justification.
<v Speaker 4>I love all that.
<v Speaker 6>But then before Sena offers the retort, Cody's back on
<v Speaker 6>raw Monday, still talking, And that to me is it
<v Speaker 6>makes Cody look just a little bit weak because you
<v Speaker 6>already said everything you had to say, and you drop
<v Speaker 6>the mic until Sena responds.
<v Speaker 4>But I'll tell you, but here's the thing, though. This
<v Speaker 4>is why I don't mind it. I mean, we'll see
<v Speaker 4>what he says here, because he should be like, where
<v Speaker 4>are you? Man? Yes, I'm not like I said it
<v Speaker 4>all last week, but you're not here? Where are you?
<v Speaker 6>This is a fucking garden, by the way. The next Monday,
<v Speaker 6>this is where Sena should have done his speed in
<v Speaker 6>New York City. You know what I mean, if you're
<v Speaker 6>gonna do it. Yeah, but I guess you know. The
<v Speaker 6>schedule they had drawn up for him so stupid before
<v Speaker 6>they did the heel turn didn't include him working enough enough,
<v Speaker 6>scene enough.
<v Speaker 4>So here it is. If you're ready, I'm ready. I'm ready, Cody.
<v Speaker 6>The Monday, after what we just heard, taking the mic
<v Speaker 6>again in John Cena stead three two one play, Oh
<v Speaker 6>some let's go Sena.
<v Speaker 9>Fun things happen when it's live on Netflix, So go
<v Speaker 9>ahead with all that John Cena sitting somewhere watching him.
<v Speaker 9>Let's let him hear it.
<v Speaker 4>What I did.
<v Speaker 3>But Gruge just didn't go on social media where he
<v Speaker 3>took to x and he said, have the discipline to
<v Speaker 3>do what needs to be done, even if you don't
<v Speaker 3>feel like it.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he did send that obnoxious tweet. That's cool, agreed, you.
<v Speaker 9>Ever, that teacher that you wanted to be challenged by
<v Speaker 9>that mentor that you accepted their lessons even though they
<v Speaker 9>were almost spiteful and jarring. That coach that stands on
<v Speaker 9>the sideline while you're in the midst of the fight,
<v Speaker 9>while you're in the midst of the game, and they're
<v Speaker 9>still calling plays.
<v Speaker 3>At a certain point, you have to look over and
<v Speaker 3>you have to say, John, sit.
<v Speaker 9>Down, you goddamn moron.
<v Speaker 3>Best for business, best for business? Right, nobody, nobody defined
<v Speaker 3>best for business more than John Cina. But I don't know.
<v Speaker 9>There's almost seventeen thousand people in here tonight more than that.
<v Speaker 4>Howdy they so shut the fuck up, guys.
<v Speaker 9>What's best for business? Perhaps the business has changed. I'll
<v Speaker 9>tell you. It's always tacky to tout stats and the
<v Speaker 9>carnival bark, But here's a stat that will never be
<v Speaker 9>It is simply one man's delusion, one man's fantasy.
<v Speaker 3>And that is seventeen.
<v Speaker 4>How he looks at the.
<v Speaker 3>Does not happen.
<v Speaker 9>But what does happen is I get the heartbreaking privilege
<v Speaker 9>of beating my hero in his last chance. Why he
<v Speaker 9>finds out what the rest of you already no and
<v Speaker 9>he finds it out in real time. John, I'm the
<v Speaker 9>captain now New York.
<v Speaker 3>God bless you guys.
<v Speaker 4>Good naight.
<v Speaker 12>Toddy Roads has always wanted to be the quarterback of
<v Speaker 12>Dudley Juddle ye.
<v Speaker 3>Wie, and that is where he is now. It padded
<v Speaker 3>forty nights.
<v Speaker 12>He chases on John Cena Cena chasing history and a
<v Speaker 12>seventeenth record breaking world championship for that man, Cody Roadstairs.
<v Speaker 4>In his way the quarterback. I don't know about that,
<v Speaker 4>but I mean, I don't really understand why all of
<v Speaker 4>a sudden, instead of him being mad at John Cena
<v Speaker 4>for beating the shit out of him and humiliating him
<v Speaker 4>and turning his back on everything he ever believed in,
<v Speaker 4>now it's about whether he's the top guy in the
<v Speaker 4>company or not. That's weird, Like Cody shouldn't be thinking
<v Speaker 4>because Sina hasn't said anything about this. Yeah, Sina hasn't
<v Speaker 4>said anything about how Cody doesn't deserve to be the
<v Speaker 4>face of the company.
<v Speaker 6>He hasn't said a word. But Cody is like intuiting
<v Speaker 6>that that's what this is about out of nowhere. Instead
<v Speaker 6>of just being vengeful, I pissed off.
<v Speaker 4>It could have played if he said, is that why
<v Speaker 4>you did what you if he asked the question like
<v Speaker 4>you know, because that's that's where it's coming. That that's
<v Speaker 4>really what what matters is why why did he do
<v Speaker 4>what he did? And I think that could be actually
<v Speaker 4>an interesting thing, you know, if that could have been
<v Speaker 4>played out very well with the whole idea that john
<v Speaker 4>I've called you out, man, I've I've I've come out
<v Speaker 4>here several times and you still don't show up. Where
<v Speaker 4>are you at? Why did you do what you do?
<v Speaker 4>Like that, you know, and and and like coming up
<v Speaker 4>with a different theory every week would be kind of interesting,
<v Speaker 4>like is this why you did it? Is it because
<v Speaker 4>of this? Is because I'm the face? Now? Is that
<v Speaker 4>what the problem is? You have an issue with that? Like,
<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I think it could be that it
<v Speaker 4>could be it could be interesting the way like again
<v Speaker 4>that way, I think I think the less of Johnson
<v Speaker 4>that we that you see the better in the situation,
<v Speaker 4>like you can use X, you can use it and
<v Speaker 4>oh it's great. I mean that's what your whole idea was.
<v Speaker 4>That he do these obnoxious tweet that he used to do.
<v Speaker 4>He used to do those right the self help one
<v Speaker 4>that you're talking about that and he kind of did,
<v Speaker 4>and that's what Cody leaned into right there, but he
<v Speaker 4>only kind of did it once. I feel like it
<v Speaker 4>would have been that would have been better just sending
<v Speaker 4>these motivational tweets the whole time instead of ever appearing
<v Speaker 4>before the people. Honestly. Yeah.
<v Speaker 6>But he wrote the one that Cody was responding to,
<v Speaker 6>which I guess was sent between his SmackDown promo on
<v Speaker 6>Friday night and the one we just heard on Monday night.
<v Speaker 6>Sina wrote, have the discipline to do what needs to
<v Speaker 6>be done, especially when you don't feel like it. That's
<v Speaker 6>just like so obnoxious.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And it got all kinds of engagement because now
<v Speaker 4>it's like he's knowingly doing it. Now, it's like Sina
<v Speaker 4>gets that that's obnoxious and he's he's doing it, and
<v Speaker 4>Cody's leaning into that. But I just feel like this
<v Speaker 4>was when he chose the quarterback language and the whole like,
<v Speaker 4>you don't think I'm supposed to be the guy. It's like,
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, I just I think seeing I think
<v Speaker 4>Cody should have been much more bloodthirsty and much more
<v Speaker 4>just mad that he got humiliated then reading into it
<v Speaker 4>all this stuff about Sina. Scena hasn't said these things yet. Yeah, Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>to make Cody just turn tact like this and he
<v Speaker 4>didn't really say like you said, where are you right?
<v Speaker 3>Right?
<v Speaker 4>Good night in New York. At the end, it's like
<v Speaker 4>this is just like it's almost like we're in New York.
<v Speaker 4>So we got to get Cody in front of the people.
<v Speaker 4>You don't do those kind of pat things when you're
<v Speaker 4>in the middle of a generational program like this. You
<v Speaker 4>have to mind those kind of details. So I thought
<v Speaker 4>this was a first jump the shark kind of hint
<v Speaker 4>here I'm I'm saying it's it was the first time
<v Speaker 4>where things didn't feel like they were kept above water.
<v Speaker 4>They sunk just a little bit where it was like
<v Speaker 4>why is he why is there? Why is he speaking again?
<v Speaker 4>Nothing's happened. Yeah, it kind of makes him look a
<v Speaker 4>little desperate. It makes him look like he wants to
<v Speaker 4>keep it alive more than John Cena wants to keep
<v Speaker 4>it alive.
<v Speaker 1>He's a lapsed fan wrestling podcast with Jack and Jpro.
<v Speaker 2>He's the lapsed fan wrestling podcast.
<v Speaker 4>We're gonna go there, We're gonna go to Belgium. We're
<v Speaker 4>going to go to the first.
<v Speaker 6>Promo that John Cena cut after turning heel out the
<v Speaker 6>elimination chamber first time he appeared before the people, and
<v Speaker 6>like you said, boss As, I'm providing you the link here.
<v Speaker 6>These are all on YouTube, by the way, which is
<v Speaker 6>one thing I've been happy to discover during the course
<v Speaker 6>of preparing for the special report is that they actually
<v Speaker 6>do do a great job at WWE of putting like
<v Speaker 6>the key stuff on YouTube. Because you think, like, oh,
<v Speaker 6>it's all behind like the you know, the paywall of
<v Speaker 6>like you know, the on demand of your cable system
<v Speaker 6>for SmackDown, or you've got to get Netflix to be
<v Speaker 6>able to watch raw and certainly you do to watch
<v Speaker 6>the whole thing, but they put full segments on there,
<v Speaker 6>and they put them uncensored. So if if Cody goes,
<v Speaker 6>you know, if Saampunk goes on Netflix, bullshit. If you
<v Speaker 6>watch it back on Netflix, it's bleeped because they want
<v Speaker 6>to favorably rate the replay, I think from a content
<v Speaker 6>moderation perspective. But when you go on YouTube, they keep
<v Speaker 6>it totally uncensored on ww's native YouTube channel, and so
<v Speaker 6>that's good. So you can do you can kind of
<v Speaker 6>revisit things this way without having to load four different apps,
<v Speaker 6>because I was like, we're gonna If we're gonna do this,
<v Speaker 6>we've got to open Peacock, We've got to open Netflix.
<v Speaker 6>You've got to find a way to get SmackDown YEP,
<v Speaker 6>which isn't really on any streaming service except Peacock on
<v Speaker 6>a ninety day delay, so we wouldn't get the latest.
<v Speaker 4>But here it is, and you're pacing right, you're ready. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>this is what you wanted. Well, not really, I wanted
<v Speaker 4>him to wait. Well, I'm not saying what he did. Yeah, right,
<v Speaker 4>but yeah I was. I was like, I was sitting
<v Speaker 4>there and I watched I didn't watch the thing, but
<v Speaker 4>I waited for the show to be over. I'm not
<v Speaker 4>gonna fucking listen. They got me one time on Netflix
<v Speaker 4>because I had to, and that was it. Wow. But
<v Speaker 4>I so I was waiting until it came out and
<v Speaker 4>I wanted to see you know what it was on
<v Speaker 4>YouTube and that's what I did. I waited for that
<v Speaker 4>and then I saw this travesty.
<v Speaker 6>It's an underplayed part of it too, is this is
<v Speaker 6>the first mania built up on Netflix, and you know
<v Speaker 6>they're doing these European time to shows and smacked. You know,
<v Speaker 6>the numbers are telling a very confusing story that numbers
<v Speaker 6>such as they exist for streaming in Netflix, are telling
<v Speaker 6>a very confusing story where it's like numbers haven't really
<v Speaker 6>grown at all since they've been on Netflix, even through
<v Speaker 6>the Rumble season, even on the road to WrestleMania. It's
<v Speaker 6>kind of weird. It's like it's hard to tell if
<v Speaker 6>anyone cares or if it's just do they lose a
<v Speaker 6>bunch of people who don't want to sign up for Netflix.
<v Speaker 6>Don't forget how remarkably old that the Raw audience was
<v Speaker 6>just like all of cable television, you know above, fifty
<v Speaker 6>five was like a huge number, which is like, not
<v Speaker 6>the people that are necessarily going to figure out how
<v Speaker 6>to use Netflix just to continue five.
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, No one wants to fucking do that down.
<v Speaker 6>Ratings, which of course have remained on traditional linear television,
<v Speaker 6>have have held up quite well since Raw moved to Netflix,
<v Speaker 6>indicating and naw's ratings got a little bit of a bump.
<v Speaker 6>It indicates that people who want to watch wrestling on
<v Speaker 6>regular television as we've known it aren't going to watch
<v Speaker 6>Raw anymore. They're just going to watch what's still on
<v Speaker 6>regular television.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think Netflix was the dumbest fucking move that
<v Speaker 4>could have made.
<v Speaker 6>I mean, Vince lapsed. Vince took the stage at our
<v Speaker 6>show last year and said, this is what the peak
<v Speaker 6>feels like.
<v Speaker 4>Pal. I know the deal looks great, I know it
<v Speaker 4>feels like everything, But Cody winning the belt.
<v Speaker 10>This is it.
<v Speaker 6>This is It's downhill from here. Yep, not precipitously, but
<v Speaker 6>it's not going to keep climbing. And as we're on
<v Speaker 6>the precipice of Wrestlmania forty one and we're just about
<v Speaker 6>to get into the meat and potatoes of their big
<v Speaker 6>idea to make this a special show, gotta say, and
<v Speaker 6>everybody knows it in their bones. Nowhere close to the
<v Speaker 6>feeling we would have had this close to WrestleMania forty.
<v Speaker 4>Twenty six minute segment. Holy shit, Yeah it did.
<v Speaker 6>It took a lot of different uh dudes to the
<v Speaker 6>entrance as well, which is important for this because it's
<v Speaker 6>the first time a live crowd reacts to John Cena's
<v Speaker 6>entrance since the heel turn. Ye, so let's waste no time.
<v Speaker 6>Three to one play.
<v Speaker 4>That's a reaction, that's a react. Yeah, listen, it's great,
<v Speaker 4>don't get me wrong. It would have been better with
<v Speaker 4>different music. And now what do you see? I'm disappointed
<v Speaker 4>as all fuck because I see him in his fucking jeorts,
<v Speaker 4>he's wearing his stupid fucking shirt, he's wearing hisid fucking
<v Speaker 4>hat like it's just and he's got a fucking like
<v Speaker 4>he's got his little stupid towel as well, Like it's
<v Speaker 4>just it's just pathetic. It's just a disappointment. Yeah, let's here,
<v Speaker 4>at boss, what are you seeing? I mean, listen, they
<v Speaker 4>are they are screaming. John Cena sucks like at a
<v Speaker 4>volume you've never seen before.
<v Speaker 3>Will kill it.
<v Speaker 4>But like you look at this isn't this John Sena
<v Speaker 4>that we saw elimination Chamber. This is a This is
<v Speaker 4>a bitch ass John Cena, Right, you know I was like,
<v Speaker 4>oh yeah, you guys fucking shuck. Who wants to see that? Right? Yeah?
<v Speaker 4>This is not a transformed man. No, this is a
<v Speaker 4>This is a man who's disappointed in everybody the last time.
<v Speaker 4>Now stop it, stop it. Sena should be talking about
<v Speaker 4>now I hurt you fans yep, as opposed to why
<v Speaker 4>did you hurt me? And while this is you even
<v Speaker 4>hear the Belgian accent thing you can't, I know.
<v Speaker 6>But while this is an amazing reaction, the point is,
<v Speaker 6>if you watch the rest of this Raw, they responded
<v Speaker 6>just as explosively to everything else.
<v Speaker 4>Too, of course, I mean, because it's exciting, but.
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, this is on a higher decibel than anything else
<v Speaker 6>they responded to. But still it's Yeah, it's frustrating that
<v Speaker 6>you have to grate on a curve when deciding if
<v Speaker 6>how over this this is or is I mean, look
<v Speaker 6>at his saw, his red socks, his sneakers.
<v Speaker 4>Well, he's one of the same fucking goofy shit and
<v Speaker 4>it's so stupid. His knee pads. He's not even gonna wrestle,
<v Speaker 4>he's got knee pads on. But it's all right, he's
<v Speaker 4>got the line in his back pocket about how he's
<v Speaker 4>not going to give us the satisfaction of a new look. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>but you know what that's like, that's not okay, Like
<v Speaker 4>I mean, they're even saying, let's go Seina. Yeah, that
<v Speaker 4>was an interesting wrinkle. And you heard Cody there on
<v Speaker 4>that Raw promo kind of lay out when some of
<v Speaker 4>the garden crowd is channing, let's go. So like the
<v Speaker 4>picture of his face there was dumb ass, his fucking
<v Speaker 4>dumbo ears. Look at that ship. I'm looking at the
<v Speaker 4>hard came with his hat looking like I am being proud,
<v Speaker 4>I am being persecuted, Messiah complex. You know, that's like
<v Speaker 4>the worst. Not what we want. We want a scene
<v Speaker 4>on his front foot. We want to see a cockier
<v Speaker 4>than ever, not a scene of that's contemplatively disappointed. This
<v Speaker 4>is powerful. He's like that. He's just standing in the
<v Speaker 4>middle of the ring and just taking the abuse. That's
<v Speaker 4>what he says afterwards, and it's like, Okay, he's not
<v Speaker 4>going to be This isn't going to light a fire
<v Speaker 4>under him. It's just going to inspire a lecture, you know,
<v Speaker 4>a history lesson. I don't like how they think promo
<v Speaker 4>should be history lessons. I tend to not like that.
<v Speaker 4>Huh yeah, I mean he is just a fucking joke. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>he looks like a total joke. He should have come
<v Speaker 4>out looking like an adults. Instead, it was like he
<v Speaker 4>looks like somebody who had like four kids in it
<v Speaker 4>when he was like by the time he was twenty
<v Speaker 4>two years old, right, I never got a job at
<v Speaker 4>like AutoZone and dresses like this for the rest of
<v Speaker 4>his life. God bless AutoZone and all of our good
<v Speaker 4>listeners who work there. I'm just you know what I mean.
<v Speaker 4>It's supposed to be a superstar, millionaire.
<v Speaker 3>Someone who's properly ground in.
<v Speaker 4>Water that he reads the tweet. That was a good idea.
<v Speaker 4>That's good. See. I don't like that face. He shouldn't
<v Speaker 4>be smiling at all.
<v Speaker 3>They shouldn't have to look outside themselves for a pop.
<v Speaker 4>I don't like that face. No, this again why he
<v Speaker 4>should not be speaking. He should not be speaking until
<v Speaker 4>he actually has formed like a face, because now we
<v Speaker 4>realize he's gon to kind of sound the way he's
<v Speaker 4>always sounded. Right, right, that's not what we want.
<v Speaker 3>You are making this so easy for me.
<v Speaker 4>I like that. You see.
<v Speaker 3>For twenty five years, I've been.
<v Speaker 4>The victim history lesson time, Okay, I have been.
<v Speaker 10>The victim of an abusive relationship.
<v Speaker 4>He should have No, he should have said it was
<v Speaker 4>Nicky Bella. She said what he should have said, it
<v Speaker 4>was Nicky Bella. Yeah, you have lost your time to
<v Speaker 4>talk moral high ground. He's got rise above hate on
<v Speaker 4>the side of his hat while he's being hated more
<v Speaker 4>than any person. Yeah right, be on TV. Right again,
<v Speaker 4>it's all like, it's so hard.
<v Speaker 3>What do you do with it? All you do is
<v Speaker 3>be hurtful.
<v Speaker 10>All you are is abusive, and all you've ever done
<v Speaker 10>is bully me in being your damn puppet.
<v Speaker 3>Expected me to do it with a smile on my face.
<v Speaker 4>Bully me. Yeah, don't make it about the fans exactly.
<v Speaker 4>It has to be about you, not them. God, I'm
<v Speaker 4>so sick of that ship man holding the mic to
<v Speaker 4>the crowd like CEC.
<v Speaker 3>So very classy, thank you. Oh look, I am not
<v Speaker 3>a baby face.
<v Speaker 4>Oh god, you know we should bring out the terminology
<v Speaker 4>just for this programs. I'm a human being. It's like,
<v Speaker 4>I'm not what it was like the fucking Roman Reigns line.
<v Speaker 4>I'm not I'm not a good guy. I'm not a
<v Speaker 4>bad guy. I'm a I'm the guy. Like, shut up,
<v Speaker 4>look at him, beg people to boo him. Go ahead.
<v Speaker 4>You've been awful and it's.
<v Speaker 3>Been the same damn noise for twenty.
<v Speaker 4>Five years, No, twenty years, twenty years and twenty week.
<v Speaker 3>Oh you let me know really loud that you hated me.
<v Speaker 4>It's such a weird time to have this fit because
<v Speaker 4>he's been a lot. Right, this could have happened like
<v Speaker 4>at the ten year mark, but not twenty man he
<v Speaker 4>had he should have been more clever and found a
<v Speaker 4>way to like fold that in, like, yeah, you did.
<v Speaker 4>You have embraced me lately.
<v Speaker 3>I mean I think of embarrassment, moments of shame.
<v Speaker 4>I think talking about how they cheer him now is
<v Speaker 4>a better thing, like you guys cheered me now.
<v Speaker 10>All of a sudden, I went and I changed myself,
<v Speaker 10>hoping that you would like me a little bit.
<v Speaker 3>And it worked for a second, but then it wasn't enough.
<v Speaker 6>See that's that's not true. It was enough, right, but
<v Speaker 6>it's definitely enough.
<v Speaker 3>I worked hard like I always do, and I started
<v Speaker 3>to win.
<v Speaker 4>Oh he's talking about further back, Okay, I.
<v Speaker 3>Said, and win and win and win and win and
<v Speaker 3>win and win and win.
<v Speaker 4>Oh I won a lot. I don't think he should.
<v Speaker 4>I don't think he should yell either. I think him
<v Speaker 4>I think him talking calmly and like a mistake, almost monotone,
<v Speaker 4>would be way better and very almost psychotic. Screaming he's screaming,
<v Speaker 4>this would be more confident. Right, But what he did
<v Speaker 4>was the righteous move right now, It's almost like he's
<v Speaker 4>he's reacting as someone who knows he shouldn't have done
<v Speaker 4>what he did, you know, right, right right, It's almost
<v Speaker 4>like he's got his tail between He's like, look what
<v Speaker 4>you made me do? Like, no, that's not the we need. No,
<v Speaker 4>you stupid motherfuckers. The whole time, you know I could
<v Speaker 4>do this to you. You're making my point for him moments.
<v Speaker 4>What's the only thing I can do? Right?
<v Speaker 3>I could walk away? What a great example.
<v Speaker 10>They go from chanting shut the f up to cheering
<v Speaker 10>when I say I'm gonna walk away.
<v Speaker 4>What same thing.
<v Speaker 10>So I announced my retirement in a move that has
<v Speaker 10>never been done before. I'm actually walking away at the.
<v Speaker 3>End of this year.
<v Speaker 4>That's not true. People have walked away when they say it. Sometimes,
<v Speaker 4>Flair one.
<v Speaker 3>Last time to get along with you, guys, I tried
<v Speaker 3>one last.
<v Speaker 4>Time and it was working. No, no one did anything
<v Speaker 4>since you came back to face Roman Range in SummerSlam
<v Speaker 4>that year. They've loved you, so knock it off. I
<v Speaker 4>know he's just like accessing, like this age old thing.
<v Speaker 4>Say it's like get out of here, like you're boring. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>it's like, no one rejected the retirement tour. Nobody hated
<v Speaker 4>the idea. Yeah, no, nobody's nobody's hated him in a
<v Speaker 4>long time, in years, with every breath, I remember the
<v Speaker 4>the life coming out of it, watching this problem. Yeah, ye,
<v Speaker 4>it is really where he's going yourself. Don't make it
<v Speaker 4>about them, That's just the thing. Don't make it about them,
<v Speaker 4>Make it about yourself. You this, I don't mind. I
<v Speaker 4>don't mind this. This is fine, But like he should
<v Speaker 4>have done it. He should have, like he should have
<v Speaker 4>built up to this moment, Like I like the idea
<v Speaker 4>of blaming the fans for only taking, Like that's great,
<v Speaker 4>that is great, but it should have been about him, him,
<v Speaker 4>him and him him, and then you take. You don't
<v Speaker 4>give me anything, and so I'm gonna take. Now, I'm
<v Speaker 4>gonna take the belt from your fucking hero because I
<v Speaker 4>want to take.
<v Speaker 3>Not one of you sons of bitches asked me how
<v Speaker 3>I feel?
<v Speaker 4>Also, we don't know if it's also the hurt feelings
<v Speaker 4>we get? What do we get?
<v Speaker 6>What we Yeah, it's almost like you're selling an entertainment product.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, what do we get? You seen? Have you seen
<v Speaker 4>the what you have earned?
<v Speaker 3>What you have earned is nothing.
<v Speaker 4>Have you seen the have you seen the meme that
<v Speaker 4>they uh, they they talk about John Cena going full
<v Speaker 4>Willy Wonka, and they showed Gene Wilder because he goes,
<v Speaker 4>you get nothing. It's really funny there he goes. You
<v Speaker 4>won't get new you won't get a new look, you
<v Speaker 4>won't get new music. Yeah, it's got My time is finally,
<v Speaker 4>not like it's been your time a million years, Like
<v Speaker 4>I don't get that you get is to take a
<v Speaker 4>long You don't get a new look, you don't get
<v Speaker 4>new music. No, okaye, no. See what he says instead
<v Speaker 4>of instead of saying that, he says, to see how
<v Speaker 4>how you look. Take a long look in the mirror,
<v Speaker 4>so you can see how much better I am than you, Yes, exactly,
<v Speaker 4>not how much better I wished you were, Not how
<v Speaker 4>awful you are, but how much better I am than
<v Speaker 4>you are. That's putt you're putting the audience on the stage, right.
<v Speaker 4>The audience should be watching the stage, right, oh Cody.
<v Speaker 4>That on Codin's.
<v Speaker 3>Of course, of course.
<v Speaker 4>See the fact that they started changing that to me
<v Speaker 4>is like they're kind of bored. They're going nuts. But
<v Speaker 4>like you keep saying the same thing a hundred times,
<v Speaker 4>I felt like he was lost on this. I really do.
<v Speaker 3>That you're awful people.
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I feel like I feel like this was
<v Speaker 4>a I'm getting the vibe that maybe Paul was like, hey, John,
<v Speaker 4>go out there and just express yourself how you felt
<v Speaker 4>those days, you know, and it's like, but he's not
<v Speaker 4>good at that exactly.
<v Speaker 10>Ding if you very easily, it's nailed it. You're the
<v Speaker 10>let's go seea people.
<v Speaker 6>Oh, can't have their support either, guy's gonna try to
<v Speaker 6>extinguish them.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you're the people are like, man, you're the people
<v Speaker 4>who have done everything I just said no one ever
<v Speaker 4>did for me. See to me, this is what's not
<v Speaker 4>gonna sell merchandise, right, you know, if he didn't show up,
<v Speaker 4>that would have sold merchandise. Fascinating, right, But now he's
<v Speaker 4>telling you actively not to buy the shirts, right exactly,
<v Speaker 4>Like see, now the let's go see a chance start
<v Speaker 4>up to get because the shouldn't be you hear that world, The.
<v Speaker 10>Sina sucks jack offs. They've already proven themselves awful people.
<v Speaker 4>Oh, I said, jack ass, tell you why.
<v Speaker 3>The let's go Scena people are just as awful.
<v Speaker 4>I wish you would support me him to support me. Yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 4>what have you t shirts ever done? Sirs? What have
<v Speaker 4>you put millions of dollars in your pocket.
<v Speaker 3>What have you ever done to support me?
<v Speaker 4>Well, they're in the audience, done for me, they're there.
<v Speaker 4>What do they wanted to cook your dinner? Jerk you
<v Speaker 4>off from Yeah, you actually steal from them by pretending to, right,
<v Speaker 4>I mean you steal from them because you put on
<v Speaker 4>a con every time you come in the ring.
<v Speaker 10>You have made me the butt of a stupid, invisible
<v Speaker 10>joke for fifteen It's not invisible.
<v Speaker 3>It is not funny.
<v Speaker 6>It's weird that he would take that. You can't see
<v Speaker 6>anything personally, like why it's not even an insult.
<v Speaker 3>You are pathetic?
<v Speaker 4>Yeah you are. Actually you are the whole point. You
<v Speaker 4>don't want to hear this is tough.
<v Speaker 12>No, it's not.
<v Speaker 4>It's not tough. It's not ready to hear. It is tough.
<v Speaker 4>It is tough to hear. Actually, he's not wrong.
<v Speaker 6>You can't lean into an uncomfortable conversation. He said you
<v Speaker 6>literally said.
<v Speaker 4>That, right.
<v Speaker 3>Feel good.
<v Speaker 10>You wear words like hustle, loyalty, and respect. I live
<v Speaker 10>them every day.
<v Speaker 4>See, that's that's a good one to key. He could
<v Speaker 4>have kept that one. You think that's a good line.
<v Speaker 3>Up.
<v Speaker 10>I am the definition of perseverance and every person here.
<v Speaker 4>No, see that's that's good. That's good. Yep. It should
<v Speaker 4>have started there. But everything right, everything that came before
<v Speaker 4>it ruins it though.
<v Speaker 3>Support me. What you do is you use me?
<v Speaker 4>That's good. This is good for your Yes, yes, yes, yes,
<v Speaker 4>that's good. Good, that's good.
<v Speaker 10>You've done there for twenty five years is sit on
<v Speaker 10>your ass and watch me.
<v Speaker 4>This is how he should have started, Like they should
<v Speaker 4>have cut all this ship and just started right there.
<v Speaker 10>This this everybody, including that one kid right there, is
<v Speaker 10>a toxic, dysfunctional relationship.
<v Speaker 4>Well that's I mean, okay. Is that what maybe told
<v Speaker 4>them all the time? And he's using that for these
<v Speaker 4>fucking clowns? What's that? Maybe that's what Nicky told him,
<v Speaker 4>you know when after seeing the therapist, like I'm going
<v Speaker 4>to talk relationship with you, and so he's using that.
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, he is he is like this is
<v Speaker 4>gonna be what Nicky Bella did do him.
<v Speaker 3>You're dumped. I don't need you anymore, I.
<v Speaker 4>Don't see you. What he should say, I don't need
<v Speaker 4>you anymore because I'm a movie star and I'm fucking
<v Speaker 4>selling tickets in a in a in a better medium,
<v Speaker 4>than this. I still got ten minutes of this fucking thing.
<v Speaker 4>You know, this is a moment again to kind of
<v Speaker 4>make it a little more realistic. He shouldn't have come
<v Speaker 4>down with music. No, he should have been held back
<v Speaker 4>and definitely not with Piro and look at him smile.
<v Speaker 4>Would you remember what he did to him in Toronto? Right?
<v Speaker 4>Do you remember the fire in his eyes on that
<v Speaker 4>SmackDown promo with a black eye? Yeah, this is where
<v Speaker 4>they lost me. But he's not pissed. He's gonna get
<v Speaker 4>He's gonna get a ship in there. He's gonna get
<v Speaker 4>a ship and he's gonna pose and I know, no.
<v Speaker 4>Big mistake. See, this is the problem is that they're
<v Speaker 4>they're trying to give the this is this is where
<v Speaker 4>this is. This is where you don't do this ship
<v Speaker 4>on the television show. Give them this ship in the
<v Speaker 4>house shows. Don't do this for the television show when
<v Speaker 4>you're trying to build up a program. Big mistake.
<v Speaker 6>And part of it is they, like I swear to God,
<v Speaker 6>is they're going to a market for the that they
<v Speaker 6>only go to once every four years, and they know
<v Speaker 6>people want to play sing along and the fans want
<v Speaker 6>to imitate the American wrestling audiences.
<v Speaker 4>So why are you doing like? They're still cheer for him.
<v Speaker 4>Don't don't it's just so stupid. But they got to
<v Speaker 4>sing a song. Oh book, how great it is you're
<v Speaker 4>singing with him. Guess what. I want a real story here,
<v Speaker 4>and I want anger and I want vengeance. I don't
<v Speaker 4>want this ship. I want I want the grandson of
<v Speaker 4>a plumber versus the uh the rapper from the tough
<v Speaker 4>streets of West Newbury, Massachusetts. The grandson of a plumber
<v Speaker 4>versus the son of an assessor. The tax assessor a
<v Speaker 4>guy who works for a guy who worked for the
<v Speaker 4>Mathuin whatever the fuck he DIDs up? The son of
<v Speaker 4>a guy used to pose at doctor Fozzio's house from
<v Speaker 4>the Missus Fazio taking his fucking shirt off and showing
<v Speaker 4>her his muscles. Like what, It's kind of perverted in
<v Speaker 4>a way, you know, some Oedipus ship going on there.
<v Speaker 4>But all right, here we go, Cody, see you can
<v Speaker 4>get this thing back on track. Brother, Have you seen
<v Speaker 4>Cody's No, I was. I didn't even see all the
<v Speaker 4>john seenor thing. Honestly, I didn't care so much. Once
<v Speaker 4>he came out looking like that, I was just I
<v Speaker 4>was like, fuck this. You don't get a new look,
<v Speaker 4>you don't get new music. Okay, great, then guess what
<v Speaker 4>you don't get someone interested in your fucking thing here,
<v Speaker 4>So I'll tell you what. You know what you don't get. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>exactly got to go through the European chance too. Yes,
<v Speaker 4>it is all bad, bad, bad, bad bad. And I'm
<v Speaker 4>not saying that they shouldn't. I just think they would
<v Speaker 4>have been better off skipping this whole thing. And I'm
<v Speaker 4>not doing this until they are back in the United States.
<v Speaker 4>I just said absolutely, yeah for this reason, because it's
<v Speaker 4>just too much about the fans. Because that's right the
<v Speaker 4>way it always is when you bring live television. That's
<v Speaker 4>why they never did fucking shows like this. They did.
<v Speaker 4>They did the video cassettes back in the day. You know, Like,
<v Speaker 4>I get it's exciting for them to be on live TV,
<v Speaker 4>but stupid. Let them have a fucking network special. You know,
<v Speaker 4>it's just not it's just not what the moment calls for. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>let them have a Netflix exclusive, you know, a premium
<v Speaker 4>live Netflix event. What I what always, what I always
<v Speaker 4>love is they try to make an enthusiastic crowd shut up.
<v Speaker 4>See this is like, no, all right, this is the problem.
<v Speaker 4>Nothing to do. These two are supposed to be They're
<v Speaker 4>supposed to be hanging on every word they say. They're
<v Speaker 4>just excited to see fake sports. Exactly.
<v Speaker 3>I think everybody was willing to hear you out.
<v Speaker 4>Not the Belgian fans, I understood.
<v Speaker 3>Correctly from what you just said. They've given you their worst.
<v Speaker 9>But sure they might have given you their worst, they
<v Speaker 9>have also given you.
<v Speaker 3>Their best for twenty five years and they did that.
<v Speaker 4>But here's the thing. What does John Cena is anger
<v Speaker 4>towards the fans have to do with him turning on
<v Speaker 4>Cody Roads.
<v Speaker 3>They did that, you could carry it.
<v Speaker 4>Stupid because he already locked in the title. Shot just
<v Speaker 4>won the he won the chamber.
<v Speaker 3>And it's certainly not kid, it's w w E champion.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, if you missed that, Scena step to him and said, listen, kid.
<v Speaker 3>On the mound and let me ask you, who the
<v Speaker 3>hell are you? Where's the guy on this shirt.
<v Speaker 4>Right here in front of you, right there? I mean,
<v Speaker 4>he might as well just look in a salute. He's
<v Speaker 4>doing the same sh he always does.
<v Speaker 9>Inspect of going week to week face to face with
<v Speaker 9>John Cena, and instead I got this, Well, this better
<v Speaker 9>not show up at wrestle Mania, because if it does,
<v Speaker 9>I run it over.
<v Speaker 3>I run it out because I already.
<v Speaker 9>Took it's best shot and it wasn't good enough.
<v Speaker 3>I retire it early.
<v Speaker 9>So go find John Cena because I want to wrestle
<v Speaker 9>him at wressele Mayne forty one, not this whiny bitch.
<v Speaker 6>And it'd be one thing if that lit a fire
<v Speaker 6>under Sena. But and he makes a face like it did.
<v Speaker 6>But then it comes back and just speech ifies again.
<v Speaker 6>But that was a good line book by Cody because
<v Speaker 6>it was in acknowledging how cringe Sina was being. You know, yeah,
<v Speaker 6>it wasn't taking too seriously the false fervency of Sina's message.
<v Speaker 6>Seen the standing in the middle of the ring watching Cody.
<v Speaker 4>Exit with a It's over, Jenny, It's over.
<v Speaker 10>Is It.
<v Speaker 4>Sounds like it is?
<v Speaker 3>What?
<v Speaker 4>What is this Codin's Codin's Roads. Chance, that's the European one,
<v Speaker 4>Codin's Codin's Road, Codin's Codins Roads, Codin's Codin's Roads. Anything
<v Speaker 4>to say, John with your yeah like a fucking a child,
<v Speaker 4>that's the fucking idiot, the slow glare and drops the mic.
<v Speaker 13>Yeah, Yeah, it's his towel back the last time is now?
<v Speaker 4>H M, such a cry bit. He's walking off the
<v Speaker 4>field like, yeah, coach who just lost the Super Bowl? Right?
<v Speaker 4>It was? Look like uh, Tom Brady says on his
<v Speaker 4>ass remember that. Yeah, it's sad. And then he stops
<v Speaker 4>at the iss away and does the Undertaker look over
<v Speaker 4>his shoulder, what are you Undertaker and fucking raise your
<v Speaker 4>fist stuff like an asshole.
<v Speaker 6>All I know is what John zen attorneyl The first
<v Speaker 6>thing I thought of is how is Belgium going to ring?
<v Speaker 4>Exactly so weird. I'm gonna send you something because listen,
<v Speaker 4>I've I've you know, I'm fascinated, you know, because one
<v Speaker 4>of the one of the key things is that the
<v Speaker 4>music needed to go. The music needed to go. There
<v Speaker 4>are so many people, there are so many people who
<v Speaker 4>have written but YouTube videos of their own custom versions
<v Speaker 4>of John Heena, John Cena his heel song, John Heena,
<v Speaker 4>it's a better name for him, Johnsena's heel theme, like
<v Speaker 4>a version of it, like their own, their own inspiration.
<v Speaker 4>And I'm gonna send you one because I fucking love
<v Speaker 4>this one. This one was so fucking it's so epic.
<v Speaker 4>It's just crazy intense. You get it. Boss, he's a heel,
<v Speaker 4>so you're not going to get right, which is like,
<v Speaker 4>you know, I was supposed to get excited about a heel.
<v Speaker 4>Turn that doesn't give me what I want. I mean,
<v Speaker 4>like I just want to I mean, that's that's not
<v Speaker 4>what it is, is not You're not going to get
<v Speaker 4>what you want. I mean because listen, they've already they've
<v Speaker 4>already suffered through that with Johnsena exactly. You know, so
<v Speaker 4>like the idea it needs to be that they is
<v Speaker 4>that this guy is just the antithesis of everything he
<v Speaker 4>preached about. This guy who talked about hustle, loyalty and respect,
<v Speaker 4>talked about not caring the ideas that in actuality. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>he's this little fucking smarmye Hollywood bitch who just is
<v Speaker 4>all about himself. Oh, doctor corps. Shout out to doctor corps. Ye,
<v Speaker 4>he's got it. Seen it with the hat on with
<v Speaker 4>the red eyes. That's cool. Yeah, that's would have worked
<v Speaker 4>because he goes back little prototype he tells it on
<v Speaker 4>machine Yeah, h yeah, it's all boring. It's all boring.
<v Speaker 4>He's he's used the same song. Yeah. Oh listen, it's
<v Speaker 4>like it's off. It's off, like it's not the same notes.
<v Speaker 4>It's just it's using minor minor chords instead, and it's
<v Speaker 4>just like it makes that big of a difference, Like
<v Speaker 4>imagine WrestleMania the first time comes out to the exactly
<v Speaker 4>first time you see you and it comes out to this,
<v Speaker 4>it's the time. The time isn't in Belgium, the time
<v Speaker 4>is then. Oh and they missed it. They fucked it up,
<v Speaker 4>Like he comes out no, Piro, it's just like black.
<v Speaker 4>It's just darkness and a spotlight on him. Don't be
<v Speaker 4>mad that this is a better idea, don't retreat to
<v Speaker 4>your corner of just enjoy the ride and let us
<v Speaker 4>do our job. Fans shouldn't be able to book better
<v Speaker 4>stuff than you do. That's not the bargain we make. Yep,
<v Speaker 4>this isn't the John c and I just saw walk
<v Speaker 4>Out and Bell not at all. Jesus, what an idea.
<v Speaker 4>This really grabs me, right, But they're so creatively bankrupt
<v Speaker 4>in the music department these days. Oh they fired Doctor Corpse.
<v Speaker 4>Please this guy. That's that's the thing about the modern
<v Speaker 4>media environment. You can't act like you couldn't come up
<v Speaker 4>with something better. People just did already. And if you
<v Speaker 4>don't have the the lack of pride of authorship to
<v Speaker 4>just embrace someone else's better idea, then it's now we're
<v Speaker 4>back to the Vince regime again. Yeah, yes, put listen
<v Speaker 4>to this all weekend as part of our King King
<v Speaker 4>King King, King, King, King, King, King King King and
<v Speaker 4>King King King King. I can see him like I
<v Speaker 4>can see the video package flying shoulder box like zooming
<v Speaker 4>in on his face at Elimination Chamber first time you
<v Speaker 4>see him. Yep, it's so so good. It's fucking brilliant.
<v Speaker 4>H oo. It sounds like a failing system. Damn. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>well thanks for that. That was awesome. Isn't that great?
<v Speaker 4>Fucking doctor corps man. Yeah, whoever you are, Jude, dude,
<v Speaker 4>you're brilliant. Love it.
<v Speaker 6>Fuck Now I'm more excited than ever to go forward.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, right, to not get what we uh, you know,
<v Speaker 4>to not get what you want, which I guess at
<v Speaker 4>the whole point, to not get what you want.
<v Speaker 6>I mean, we started this thing playing back the sound
<v Speaker 6>of our live call of Elimination Chamber, recapturing that emotion
<v Speaker 6>when seeing a kicked Cody and the balls and turn
<v Speaker 6>heel and what that was like, and now we just
<v Speaker 6>watched seeing his first words since that happened. Uh appropriate, where.
<v Speaker 4>Are you at? I'm I listen, I I I stopped
<v Speaker 4>caring for a reason. That's right, and that that could
<v Speaker 4>be the motto of this podcast. Damn right, Oh that's
<v Speaker 4>just awful. I mean, I mean I said it all
<v Speaker 4>like you can in the ring with the boo boo
<v Speaker 4>face right. If anything, he should have been red eyed.
<v Speaker 4>He should have been or like had a crazy smile
<v Speaker 4>on his face like yes, you know, like like yeah, right,
<v Speaker 4>you know, he can say what you want. Codin's You
<v Speaker 4>people have been awful to me. Oh, for God's sake,
<v Speaker 4>what's what he said? Oh? No, you talk about how
<v Speaker 4>much better? Like again he he he got it. He
<v Speaker 4>got some moments about it in the middle of his promo.
<v Speaker 6>That's why I felt like he was lost because the
<v Speaker 6>the lines were in there, but there was so much
<v Speaker 6>extraneous stuff that I felt like was borderline ad libbed
<v Speaker 6>that to me. Yeah, you feel like he was panicking
<v Speaker 6>almost a bit. Like he again, I feel like he
<v Speaker 6>was given the opportunity. I feel like he he I
<v Speaker 6>really feel like Paul said, just you.
<v Speaker 11>Know, go out there for ten minutes first, before you
<v Speaker 11>get to the stuff that we got for you, just
<v Speaker 11>go out there and just kind of just then talk
<v Speaker 11>about what you've been feeling, you know.
<v Speaker 4>And it's like, how about how about No it doesn't
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know, because the whole it can it
<v Speaker 4>could work. You could get angry at the fans if
<v Speaker 4>you brought up the fact that you guys started to
<v Speaker 4>cheering me all of a sudden, Huh what happened there? Yes,
<v Speaker 4>you know, that's that's you know, you start off with
<v Speaker 4>everything that Elsie said. You talk about how great he
<v Speaker 4>is and how you know you guys, you guys buy
<v Speaker 4>this shit. I live this shit, but you guys are
<v Speaker 4>suckers because you fucking buy it. I live hustle to
<v Speaker 4>loyalty and respect whatever the fuck you guys just wear
<v Speaker 4>that shit.
<v Speaker 6>And I take your and I take your money, yes,
<v Speaker 6>instead of you take my money? Right, you take take
<v Speaker 6>take right? Are we taking by patronizing your business.
<v Speaker 4>Right exactly exactly? It makes no sense? And and then
<v Speaker 4>you know then and then he says, then all of
<v Speaker 4>a sudden, you know, I'm I'm gone for a while,
<v Speaker 4>and all of a sudden, I'm this I'm your hero
<v Speaker 4>all of a sudden, All of a sudden, you guys
<v Speaker 4>love me, Yeah, you know, like.
<v Speaker 6>I would have gotten into like you know, the way
<v Speaker 6>people talk shit about him when he was when he
<v Speaker 6>showed us the side of himself on Total Divas. You know,
<v Speaker 6>the more you learned about me, the more, all of
<v Speaker 6>a sudden everything.
<v Speaker 4>You want to write the problem. You wanted to see
<v Speaker 4>what I was really like on Total Divas, and you
<v Speaker 4>guys didn't like that either. Exactly. That's me. This is
<v Speaker 4>That's it right here, That's who I am. I'm the
<v Speaker 4>selfish robot.
<v Speaker 3>The selfish.
<v Speaker 4>His opponent, the selfish Robot.
<v Speaker 6>Make the T shirt and have it up for wrestle
<v Speaker 6>any weekend. I want to Red Eyed Sena just like that.
<v Speaker 4>It would be funny after the prototype days, right, that
<v Speaker 4>doesn't that sound like a Pixar movie.
<v Speaker 6>It's the sequel to Wally Yeah. Well, as you can imagine,
<v Speaker 6>it does not end there. It does not end there
<v Speaker 6>because now the seal has been broken. John Cena has
<v Speaker 6>spoken and we're now dealing with what he thinks is
<v Speaker 6>the best kind of distillation and explaining his motivation for
<v Speaker 6>turning on Cody elimination Chamber and creating all this buzz.
<v Speaker 6>We move it forward to the next episode of Raw
<v Speaker 6>where Sina opens his mouth, and this one takes place
<v Speaker 6>in Scotland.
<v Speaker 4>So we're going, my god, we're still overseas. Jesus Christ,
<v Speaker 4>it's got a two week tour. If you got that up,
<v Speaker 4>well we'll get this one. There we go. Is it
<v Speaker 4>supposed to be at the Is it supposed to at
<v Speaker 4>the one thirteen mark? Uh? No, at the beginning? Go
<v Speaker 4>to the beginning? Okay, yeah, you have, sorry, you have
<v Speaker 4>full segment. Cody Rhodes and JOHNSENA yeah, yeah, but it
<v Speaker 4>started at the one thirteen second.
<v Speaker 6>Okay, alright, here we go. Folks three to one play
<v Speaker 6>pretty strong booze yep.
<v Speaker 4>Not as strong as Belgium, though, well yeah, I mean
<v Speaker 4>you expect that that would be the biggest this first
<v Speaker 4>time seeing and now they realize that he is that
<v Speaker 4>he does suck. So oh Jesus, look at this. Why
<v Speaker 4>now he's dressed in yellow and maybe look at his face. Oh,
<v Speaker 4>he's got Scotland colors. Of course, yeah, of course, I know.
<v Speaker 4>Whiny bitch. John Cena is not fun not the move. No,
<v Speaker 4>it's so funny because all those years Vince was like
<v Speaker 4>a baby face can never whine. A baby face can
<v Speaker 4>ever complain about losing a match, because that wouldn't be
<v Speaker 4>a baby face thing to do. And now we're seeing
<v Speaker 4>the flip side of that coin that John Cena, who
<v Speaker 4>does complain, He does bitch and it doesn't work.
<v Speaker 11>No, but like.
<v Speaker 4>Psychotic obsessed John Cena would be fascinating. And again, stop
<v Speaker 4>with the fucking tie. See this is it. The the
<v Speaker 4>fucking towels, the fucking merchandise. I'm done, I'm done. He's
<v Speaker 4>got the last time as now, towel behind his head
<v Speaker 4>as he makes his way down the aisle. Yeah, thank
<v Speaker 4>god the.
<v Speaker 8>Reaction here tonight in Glasgow, Scotland, Glasgow.
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, millions of fans who are stunned last week, why.
<v Speaker 12>As John Cena.
<v Speaker 3>Turned his back on the.
<v Speaker 4>W W universe. You already did that in February, right
<v Speaker 4>in March Elimination.
<v Speaker 12>Chamber, twenty six nights away from Seeinga's opportunity to make
<v Speaker 12>history and winning.
<v Speaker 4>It's kind of weird too to still pigeonhole in the
<v Speaker 4>seventeenth title thing. Yeah, like that's that's so immaterial at
<v Speaker 4>this point. He won the chamber, he had the title shot.
<v Speaker 4>That is not why he turned heel right that shot.
<v Speaker 4>Never expected John Cena to blame every member of the universe.
<v Speaker 3>Even his fans.
<v Speaker 4>Even his fans won't right.
<v Speaker 3>To cut a final boss.
<v Speaker 4>Oh my final boss reference. That's a first. But you
<v Speaker 4>noticed they had Pat McAfee say final Boss, not John
<v Speaker 4>c Yeah. Right, there we go again.
<v Speaker 3>Seems like you have just something you want to say
<v Speaker 3>to me.
<v Speaker 4>Nope, not really not interested. Thanks though, surrender you know
<v Speaker 4>what I love. They pretend that they're not interested in that,
<v Speaker 4>they're bored, but they do a six hour podcast about it.
<v Speaker 10>Yeah right, Yeah, you're ready here tonight to do your
<v Speaker 10>worst star shoe. It's because you finally understand what is
<v Speaker 10>going on. I have turned the spotlight on you.
<v Speaker 4>Please, Oh god, say shut the fuck you had plenty
<v Speaker 4>of spotlight one of you.
<v Speaker 3>Random ticket holders, and rip you to shreds.
<v Speaker 4>What does that even mean?
<v Speaker 6>What does that even mean? Say that they're selfish, No
<v Speaker 6>one is sa no one's safe. Where do you get
<v Speaker 6>that from? Yeah, especially the people who wanted to be
<v Speaker 6>interested in this fucking thing.
<v Speaker 10>This is poor, pathetic face was everywhere. I hate that
<v Speaker 10>love wwe posted it.
<v Speaker 3>And you all loved it.
<v Speaker 4>Fuck you? Soona there it is there we go, fuck
<v Speaker 4>you Scotland say that over here Tom Ww's credit man,
<v Speaker 4>they upload that ship unedited to their.
<v Speaker 3>Who's worse me?
<v Speaker 15>The one guy who actually always tells the truth, or
<v Speaker 15>all of you.
<v Speaker 10>Whose best idea is to use profanity?
<v Speaker 4>What he's gonna rail against them for saying you.
<v Speaker 10>Love to watch and rewatch and meme a poor, defenseless
<v Speaker 10>little kid getting destroyed? What show need to single out
<v Speaker 10>anyone here? Because you are all horrible people.
<v Speaker 4>Oh, for God's sakes enough, you're a bitch.
<v Speaker 10>Tonight you get to find out how I make you
<v Speaker 10>pay for the abuse.
<v Speaker 4>You have put to my God, it didn't used to
<v Speaker 4>be better, by the way, if you can scar at
<v Speaker 4>home and guess what John Cena used to be better too.
<v Speaker 3>Five years I have listened to your.
<v Speaker 4>Live twenty years, twenty years, twenty Just don't don't don't
<v Speaker 4>joke yourself here, don't kid yourself. Didn't wait, it happened
<v Speaker 4>after you won the championship in two thousand and five.
<v Speaker 4>You're fucking moron. Oh yes, shut the fuck up. Honestly,
<v Speaker 4>they should not be chanting that when you consider where
<v Speaker 4>we were at the chamber. They should really be hanging
<v Speaker 4>on his every word. They should be booing him, but
<v Speaker 4>they should be interested in what he has to say.
<v Speaker 4>They shouldn't want him to just at his mouth. That's
<v Speaker 4>not a good sign to me. I agree, this is
<v Speaker 4>so easy. You're making it so hard, John. I know.
<v Speaker 10>While you are chanting profanity at the top of your lungs,
<v Speaker 10>I've been paying attention.
<v Speaker 3>I've been learning from you.
<v Speaker 10>Quizzing you, studying you, testing you, prodding you.
<v Speaker 4>Stop it. What does this mean?
<v Speaker 3>Warning you for playing.
<v Speaker 10>Along with your stupid, childish, curse ridden nursery rhymes.
<v Speaker 4>He's lost, he's lost. He doesn't know what he's talking about.
<v Speaker 4>That's just that's awful.
<v Speaker 3>So you have told me every single thing about you.
<v Speaker 4>Paying at the fans. I know, stop making about the
<v Speaker 4>fans about me.
<v Speaker 3>I know more about you than you.
<v Speaker 4>Well, if that's the case, then.
<v Speaker 3>Your luck.
<v Speaker 4>Then you should know. You should shut your mouth. Then
<v Speaker 4>just get the fuck out of my life. Your life
<v Speaker 4>is sad. Okay, here goes.
<v Speaker 3>Is the best it's gonna get. This is all you have? Okay,
<v Speaker 3>And me said nothing more than why speim? You have
<v Speaker 3>been rats in a cage?
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, Oh I don't.
<v Speaker 3>Take out any moment in my career.
<v Speaker 4>Okay, tell you what I learned from you about I mean,
<v Speaker 4>I should tell him, Hey, John, I was the one
<v Speaker 4>preaching at UH Wrestling twenty three that you were their
<v Speaker 4>lord and savior. What does that put Where does that
<v Speaker 4>put me on your map of when I was vanilla?
<v Speaker 4>You were bored, but I was loyal, you were loved.
<v Speaker 4>That doesn't make any sense. Respect when I was.
<v Speaker 6>Selfish or disrespected, that doesn't make sense.
<v Speaker 4>When I was bored, I changed the channel. This so
<v Speaker 4>so simple, it says over and over again. You make
<v Speaker 4>this so simple, and it's like, then why does it
<v Speaker 4>take twenty five minutes?
<v Speaker 10>You will always tell me everything about yourselves because you
<v Speaker 10>so desperately.
<v Speaker 4>Want to matter.
<v Speaker 3>Thing you ever told me was in April two thousand
<v Speaker 3>and five. It was a day, I guess.
<v Speaker 10>Greatest idea I gave you This one's for your boss,
<v Speaker 10>Oh Spinner Championship.
<v Speaker 4>All right, don't take this. The only rest pause lines
<v Speaker 4>he gets here when he talks about the stuff we
<v Speaker 4>talked about new music. Look, that was like, that's good alive.
<v Speaker 3>All you have to do is google negative comments.
<v Speaker 4>I'll tell you what I like. I like the idea
<v Speaker 4>that he brought that. That's the greatest thing he fucking did.
<v Speaker 4>I think that's hilarious. Actually, that's a good one.
<v Speaker 10>Because I changed your championship into a toy, and the
<v Speaker 10>championship is not a toy. The championship is a symbol
<v Speaker 10>of the center of all this, and the toy belt
<v Speaker 10>I made for you disrespected tradition and disrespected your legacy.
<v Speaker 4>What you ain't talking about what the fans legacy, who
<v Speaker 4>my mom's legacy is.
<v Speaker 10>Mostly because that was the biggest mistake you ever made.
<v Speaker 10>In that one single moment, you were vulnerable enough to
<v Speaker 10>actually tell you means the.
<v Speaker 3>Most to you in this life. And now that I
<v Speaker 3>know that, I am going.
<v Speaker 4>To ruin wrestling, well, well I'm going to.
<v Speaker 10>I am going to ruin wrestling for every FANKA.
<v Speaker 3>For every wrestler, for everyone.
<v Speaker 4>Okay, that's actually a good sentiment. I just it's it's again.
<v Speaker 4>Everything leading up to it is what sucks. It's too late. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>he's got the lines in there, but he has four
<v Speaker 4>hundred lines.
<v Speaker 10>He doesn't need force you to forget the name of
<v Speaker 10>the fun machine jet Fly whoa Rick Flair?
<v Speaker 4>See that's good there, right, that's good.
<v Speaker 3>You will forever say the name John Cena.
<v Speaker 4>So that's good. That's great. Yeah. The ramming against the
<v Speaker 4>fans is when he used to go like this, one's good.
<v Speaker 10>I'm going to win that championship, the center of every superstar,
<v Speaker 10>of this entire business, of every fan in this building.
<v Speaker 10>I will win that championship and retire with it.
<v Speaker 4>Great. That's a great threat. I am taking it home
<v Speaker 4>with me good.
<v Speaker 10>And leaving all of you to create a brand new
<v Speaker 10>toy belts because the real one.
<v Speaker 3>Comes home with me.
<v Speaker 4>Good. I'm fine with that.
<v Speaker 3>I will be the last real Chipion in WWE.
<v Speaker 4>This is good. Oh, let's t get carried away. Revenge
<v Speaker 4>is best served cold about real chance.
<v Speaker 10>I pay you back by ripping your heart out and
<v Speaker 10>forcing you to watch as I just walk away with
<v Speaker 10>your memories, with your traditions and your dreams, and there.
<v Speaker 3>Is nothing you can do to stop me.
<v Speaker 4>I don't hate this. Yeah. He hit a strate at
<v Speaker 4>the end. Well man, Wow, it's so nice of Cody
<v Speaker 4>to let John talk for twenty minutes. Yeah, and then
<v Speaker 4>come out with his music to uh instead of just
<v Speaker 4>running out and beating his ass. I'm not for this ship.
<v Speaker 4>Here he comes again with no, he's gonna fucking wait
<v Speaker 4>for Pyro. He's gonna talk to fans, He's gonna he's
<v Speaker 4>gonna go on the ground it all, you know, the
<v Speaker 4>smile and like yeah, everybody here we go Like he's
<v Speaker 4>walking out on Carson, you know exactly. He's fucking gonna
<v Speaker 4>sit out there and suck Jay Leno's dick. Everyone's got
<v Speaker 4>to do this. You gonna deprive Scotland of the woe.
<v Speaker 4>I would listen, House show, house show, do it at
<v Speaker 4>the house show after the TV show's over. What is
<v Speaker 4>so hard about that?
<v Speaker 6>But putting it on the show is what makes people
<v Speaker 6>want to go to the show and so they can
<v Speaker 6>do it too.
<v Speaker 4>No, I'm not interested in that. And if that's part
<v Speaker 4>of what makes the business home, that's part of why
<v Speaker 4>I say it used to be better because he didn't
<v Speaker 4>have to do that before to get people engaged. You know,
<v Speaker 4>they didn't have to be participants. It's like a building
<v Speaker 4>full of people who show up to w W now
<v Speaker 4>and say, what can I do? Right? You know what
<v Speaker 4>I mean?
<v Speaker 3>Scout's gonna have to save wrestling?
<v Speaker 4>Who's gonnas gonna save wrestling? Great? See, I don't quite
<v Speaker 4>get how if johnsona wins the belt, Wrestling goes down
<v Speaker 4>the trend.
<v Speaker 6>That's gonna not that didn't speak very highly of his
<v Speaker 6>drawing ability. H it's time for a point counterpoint Scotland digition,
<v Speaker 6>fucking meet the press here.
<v Speaker 4>That that suit Cody's wearing. Met the press back in
<v Speaker 4>the hotel, right right? What shoes Cody? Say? Here? Boss,
<v Speaker 4>real quick? And Cody should say, shut the funck off,
<v Speaker 4>going to kick your ass, you dumb bitch, and knocked
<v Speaker 4>the hat off his head, yes, and slap him. Yeah, Well,
<v Speaker 4>that'd be great if you just didn't say anything, yep,
<v Speaker 4>because you expect another speech and he just walks up
<v Speaker 4>and doesn't say a word. As you know, steps to
<v Speaker 4>John how to go through this, whether it's yeat or
<v Speaker 4>it's the whoah for seth rollins, or it's this or
<v Speaker 4>even edge and aw they sing his song. Now we
<v Speaker 4>just kind of have to sit here so sick of
<v Speaker 4>this shit. Wait, you know, fifty five seconds min and
<v Speaker 4>a half for the ship to pass, still doing it
<v Speaker 4>pretty roads roads rods contains codin roads.
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, what did you say? You said you were
<v Speaker 3>going to take this away from them. Don't you think
<v Speaker 3>you need to take it away? From me.
<v Speaker 4>First, I thought about that. You know, it's like they
<v Speaker 4>this is this is, this is Bretton Vince all over again.
<v Speaker 10>How up?
<v Speaker 4>They just don't know how to tell the straight story.
<v Speaker 4>It's a story, you know, like it's a simple story.
<v Speaker 4>You don't need all these theatrics to make this work.
<v Speaker 4>You don't know these all the psycho analysis. I'm so
<v Speaker 4>sick of psycho analysis and wrestling.
<v Speaker 3>But you have made a massive mistake. And the mistake
<v Speaker 3>was not hitting me upside the head with this at
<v Speaker 3>the elimination chamber.
<v Speaker 4>No, no, no.
<v Speaker 9>The mistake was saying what you just said in front
<v Speaker 9>of these lovely people while I was.
<v Speaker 4>In Boring Mooring. He called us lovely hang out. Codin's
<v Speaker 4>Co Controls contains Colden's Roads, Codins Co controlls, Codin's Co
<v Speaker 4>con rolls Codins Co con rolls. That would just blow
<v Speaker 4>the chain up so hard. If like you had to
<v Speaker 4>cone Codins, they would be so confused. I love it.
<v Speaker 4>That's that would make it brilliant. Roll this whole thing,
<v Speaker 4>bothers MEPA history. Oh really, I don't need to unload
<v Speaker 4>your fucking listen. I'm gonna unload a load on your
<v Speaker 4>face if we don't fucking get this thing back on track, brother.
<v Speaker 3>One time, just to validate one name, I understand.
<v Speaker 4>I mean, if you understand him correctly, then you're the
<v Speaker 4>only one. I don't know what he's talking about.
<v Speaker 9>All of professional wrestling hangs in the balance because of
<v Speaker 9>your vanity.
<v Speaker 4>What are you talking about? That's what you said, you
<v Speaker 4>want to take it? That's okay, I'm talking about his
<v Speaker 4>vanity is okay. I don't understand how seen A winning
<v Speaker 4>is gonna end wrestling right now? Okay, that's a good story.
<v Speaker 6>Take you long enough. So Atoss is at the mike,
<v Speaker 6>Cody has ripped his shirt.
<v Speaker 4>Open ring roads, Colden's Colden's Roads, Colden's Colden's Roads. Nobodys
<v Speaker 4>his fighting stand. Let me go home. This is so
<v Speaker 4>fucking lame. Sna leaves the ring instead of engaging in
<v Speaker 4>debate Society version ten MM.
<v Speaker 6>Up the aisle, he goes. Pat calls from all directions.
<v Speaker 4>Sean, Yeah, that's a good one, John, It's like Eric, no, yeah,
<v Speaker 4>right right, Oh it's hena turned around now making his
<v Speaker 4>way back towards the ring. You're gonna prove yourself a man,
<v Speaker 4>I guess. Golly, just saying John to change his mind
<v Speaker 4>about me. Okay, prove yourself a man, John, I was
<v Speaker 4>leaving again, did this? You gotta be kidding me? Look
<v Speaker 4>on his face?
<v Speaker 9>What John? I cannot let you do it. I cannot
<v Speaker 9>have that on my conscience right now. I need you
<v Speaker 9>to see me.
<v Speaker 3>I need you to Oh my God, and I need
<v Speaker 3>you to understand.
<v Speaker 4>Shut up. Psychotic need to take you both suck putting
<v Speaker 4>this fucking thing over to keep it.
<v Speaker 6>Your psychotic need to take this does not outweigh our
<v Speaker 6>right to keep it.
<v Speaker 3>What's there the chap is standing in the center of
<v Speaker 3>this ring.
<v Speaker 4>We know this.
<v Speaker 3>And see you walking away empty.
<v Speaker 5>Handed, John Cena, John c from wrestle Mania, and that
<v Speaker 5>is how you walk away.
<v Speaker 3>From the w WE.
<v Speaker 4>Okay. Another segment that ends with Sina in the fuddeled silence,
<v Speaker 4>and his name is Cody wrote in his face, I'm
<v Speaker 4>so depressed direction look at him.
<v Speaker 3>W E Championship against that fan.
<v Speaker 1>He's a la fan wrestling podcast with Jack and Carnio
<v Speaker 1>and j Piso.
<v Speaker 2>He's a lapsed fan wrestling podcast.
<v Speaker 4>Just standing there looking at the fans like this kind
<v Speaker 4>of s I mean, is this you hoped we'd be
<v Speaker 4>after the heel turn not at all. This is just awful.
<v Speaker 4>It's just awful. Come on, it's awful. No, it's awful.
<v Speaker 4>It's like I don't care. I don't care. How did
<v Speaker 4>they manage to get me to not care? And like, right,
<v Speaker 4>exactly amazing, that's just this really sad part is like, am.
<v Speaker 6>I supposed to care about seeing it coming out like
<v Speaker 6>dressed like he's always dressed, like just standing there like
<v Speaker 6>you nailed it. It's like, no, you're not going to
<v Speaker 6>convince me that this is special because he just nothing
<v Speaker 6>has changed, Like there's no there's no visual reminder that
<v Speaker 6>this is like a new set of circumstances, you know,
<v Speaker 6>right right, So we hit the next promo here from
<v Speaker 6>do we Have to We're getting there? This is from SmackDown.
<v Speaker 6>This is after that that confrontation, and this also involves
<v Speaker 6>Randy Orton and Drew McIntyre a bit.
<v Speaker 4>Why we're about to find out? Ready okay, yeah, three two?
<v Speaker 4>One play is Oh my god, where are we now?
<v Speaker 4>Uh that's a good question. This is the biggest the
<v Speaker 4>biggest mistake they ever fucking did was doing was this
<v Speaker 4>See he's doing the fucking rah rah and he should
<v Speaker 4>be laser focused.
<v Speaker 3>What do you want to talk about?
<v Speaker 4>Nothing.
<v Speaker 6>The March twenty eighth edition of SmackDown seen the Sucks
<v Speaker 6>chance here in London, London, decidedly on the scene of sucks.
<v Speaker 6>I don't hear any let's go see it.
<v Speaker 4>There it is Cody taking the measure of the audience.
<v Speaker 4>But they're just so like light about it, like, yeah,
<v Speaker 4>there's no more sense of betrayal, there's no more again,
<v Speaker 4>that's all gone, like the whole it's just become another
<v Speaker 4>fucking title program exactly, and now another title match that
<v Speaker 4>needs a story.
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and the story was there. The story was there,
<v Speaker 6>And now listen to watch what we have to sit
<v Speaker 6>through before we get to it.
<v Speaker 4>MS Codins, Codin's Roads, Codins, Codin's Roads, Codins, Codin's Roads, Codin's,
<v Speaker 4>Codin's Roads, Codin's, Codin's Roads, Codin's Codin's Roads. I don't
<v Speaker 4>fucking care. I still don't fucking care. You made me
<v Speaker 4>you not want to see this any emo? Get that
<v Speaker 4>fucking care? Hashtag lapsed bitch, What the fuck do you
<v Speaker 4>know about it? Nothing?
<v Speaker 9>As he goes to break the record and win sevens but.
<v Speaker 4>That I mean again, this, this could have been a
<v Speaker 4>thing if you know you're doing with the number seventeen
<v Speaker 4>story as if he didn't turn here.
<v Speaker 9>With John Cena in this verse, that was going to
<v Speaker 9>be the story in this very same arena.
<v Speaker 4>Uh, who fucking cares? Why is he here? The old legacy?
<v Speaker 10>Uh?
<v Speaker 4>Then tour oh Orton had some remarks on the first
<v Speaker 4>SmackDown after seeing heeld turn as well about how upside
<v Speaker 4>down everything this is another sound wrest off his own.
<v Speaker 3>I'm not really the sentimental type.
<v Speaker 4>Okay, then shut up for you?
<v Speaker 3>For you London's you know what, screw it?
<v Speaker 4>Yep, screw it. That's the way to go. Screw it.
<v Speaker 4>O K O r K O Codins Random's versus Codince.
<v Speaker 4>Look at you, Yeah, look at you. You're a dumb fuck?
<v Speaker 4>Who you are now?
<v Speaker 3>The man you are?
<v Speaker 9>Now?
<v Speaker 4>Who cares? Look at where he came from. Yeah, he's
<v Speaker 4>the grandson of a plumber.
<v Speaker 3>I remember a Cody Rhoades.
<v Speaker 4>I remember a Cody Rhoades.
<v Speaker 1>Roads.
<v Speaker 4>Eat my fucking shit. I hate this fucking thing. Wrestling's
<v Speaker 4>fucking fake. You're all fucking phonies. Eat my fucking cock.
<v Speaker 4>Watch you suck my dick.
<v Speaker 16>I remember a Cody Rhodes in his early twenties, just
<v Speaker 16>breaking into business.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I try to forget that hard there.
<v Speaker 3>We go great fully harder than anybody else.
<v Speaker 4>Oh, because you're fucking Brandy Orton and you do ship
<v Speaker 4>that other people don't like you shit in bags and
<v Speaker 4>he sees things in people.
<v Speaker 16>Eactly happy, In fact, you were. You were frustrated, but
<v Speaker 16>you were mad enough.
<v Speaker 4>You were smart. As frustrated as I am.
<v Speaker 16>You grow and you couldn't grow in a WWE locker room.
<v Speaker 16>You were exactly treated fairly in a WWE locker room.
<v Speaker 4>So you left.
<v Speaker 3>Man, that took some big ass balls to this company.
<v Speaker 4>That's right, we run We can say big gass balls.
<v Speaker 4>N Yeah, all right, you changed the business single Oh,
<v Speaker 4>for God's sake, shut up.
<v Speaker 13>You know what.
<v Speaker 3>All the girls in the beck know it, and you
<v Speaker 3>know that I appreciate you for it.
<v Speaker 4>But you came back.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I knew one day you'd come back.
<v Speaker 16>And the industry has been changed forever, ever since the
<v Speaker 16>day you stepped foot back in the WWE.
<v Speaker 4>Toady's crying. You know, I didn't really know.
<v Speaker 3>What to expect at first, and then I realized.
<v Speaker 4>You're the same guy. You're the same guy.
<v Speaker 3>You just did what you set out to do.
<v Speaker 4>You grew.
<v Speaker 3>I'd sing along with you, but you might leave.
<v Speaker 4>That's funny, not appropriate for this, but it is funny.
<v Speaker 4>We go again. Codin's Codin's Roads, Codin's Codin's Roads code.
<v Speaker 4>I didn't expect this to be a thing. I should
<v Speaker 4>have thought. I should have figured it, though, considering how
<v Speaker 4>much of this is in Europe.
<v Speaker 16>You remember when this man faced Seth, Rollins and hell
<v Speaker 16>in a self impressive yeah possible. You started that match
<v Speaker 16>with a partially torn peck. You finished that match.
<v Speaker 4>With a fully torn peck.
<v Speaker 16>Right, Your body turned all sorts of shades, the color
<v Speaker 16>purple that I have never seen on a human body.
<v Speaker 3>The pain you must have been in, but you persevered,
<v Speaker 3>not just for you, actually it would.
<v Speaker 6>Turn the color purple and several other Academy awards with your.
<v Speaker 16>Family and your father, who was mostly for all of
<v Speaker 16>these people, that you stuck it out and you won
<v Speaker 16>that match with a torn peck. Then you went on
<v Speaker 16>to WrestleMania in the main event, and you finished your story. Okay,
<v Speaker 16>but there's always another story, isn't there. Yeah, especially in
<v Speaker 16>w W in the middle of another one. Because you're
<v Speaker 16>in charge of your legacy, and it is a privilege.
<v Speaker 3>To sit back.
<v Speaker 4>He said that word legacy there, it is right there.
<v Speaker 3>Ticket sales have been up, the business this.
<v Speaker 4>More Oh my god, shut up, fuck up. It is
<v Speaker 4>mostly it's for Nick Connors, is for thee because of you,
<v Speaker 4>Cody Great. I come for the wrestling, stay for the economics,
<v Speaker 4>look for the spreadsheets. That's this is what I mean,
<v Speaker 4>Raandy to bringing a pie chart to the room. Seriously,
<v Speaker 4>I won't you fucking do a dude, do a presentation
<v Speaker 4>with an overhead projector please trying to.
<v Speaker 3>Say, man, it's just a long winded version of long winded?
<v Speaker 4>Is right?
<v Speaker 3>And most of all, man and I am very very
<v Speaker 3>proud of you, dude.
<v Speaker 4>I'm the promo you do before he turns on him
<v Speaker 4>and takes you know what I mean, exactly exactly.
<v Speaker 3>But but but but but but it's time for WrestleMania.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's what I've been told. Yeah, they want it,
<v Speaker 4>they want it, Cody. But we were thinking, what if
<v Speaker 4>we introduced Randy's perspective into this thing. Yeah, that's I'm
<v Speaker 4>so excited for that that I am going to uh
<v Speaker 4>kick Kevin Owen so hard in the head.
<v Speaker 6>That won't be happening as Kevin had to withdraw from
<v Speaker 6>WrestleMania do to a nick and Tree.
<v Speaker 4>Wow, really, how many days with our WrestleMania is a bit.
<v Speaker 3>From his shoulders.
<v Speaker 16>And I know that you're going to enter WrestleMania champ.
<v Speaker 16>You're gonna walk out a WrestleMania champ, but not before
<v Speaker 16>you beat the holy hell out of John Cena all.
<v Speaker 4>Up and down the Vegas Strip.
<v Speaker 16>Okay, but after all the smoke clears and the dust settles, Cody,
<v Speaker 16>just like John Cena is going after number seventeen, There's
<v Speaker 16>gonna come a time when I'm gonna want to go
<v Speaker 16>after number fifteen.
<v Speaker 4>Ooh shit, he's talking fighting words, motherfuckers. Oh yeah, But
<v Speaker 4>I'm not going to kick you in the balls like
<v Speaker 4>some coward.
<v Speaker 16>I'm gonna look you directly in your eye because I
<v Speaker 16>respect you, I love you and men the balls, and
<v Speaker 16>I consider you an equal, if not far surpassing anything
<v Speaker 16>I've ever done in this business. I'm gonna look you
<v Speaker 16>in your eye, and I'm going to.
<v Speaker 4>Tell you.
<v Speaker 3>That I'm coming for this.
<v Speaker 4>Right and now, the real truth teller. What the fuck?
<v Speaker 4>Just here one remark here from here and then we'll
<v Speaker 4>exit this one. But it's kind of funny because you know,
<v Speaker 4>his whole gimmick is like everyone's a shithead and like
<v Speaker 4>eventually the right eventually they prove themselves shitheads and he
<v Speaker 4>just he's the eye told you so, guys, such a
<v Speaker 4>fucking it is so annoying. I don't want this, this
<v Speaker 4>whole thing, you know, and and and listen. Yeah, there
<v Speaker 4>are a bunch of a bunch of these guys are
<v Speaker 4>great and they do their thing, but man, oh man,
<v Speaker 4>it's like this fucking story is just ruined. It's just
<v Speaker 4>fucking ruined. The dead carcass true back and I got it.
<v Speaker 3>That's wonderful.
<v Speaker 9>No, a couple of babies, a couple of nipple babies
<v Speaker 9>having a love fast.
<v Speaker 3>It makes me absolutely sick.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, makes my absolutely sounds like fat bastard.
<v Speaker 3>You're coming for that title?
<v Speaker 10>What exactly have you done since your big comeback to
<v Speaker 10>justify that title match?
<v Speaker 4>A sibe Randy Orten, Nobody, that's a big moment.
<v Speaker 3>I can remember you being on the shelf for months
<v Speaker 3>and months and months.
<v Speaker 9>People like to make jokes about it, but more people
<v Speaker 9>talk about my five minute, forty six second world title.
<v Speaker 3>Raid than your entire comeback so far. So get to
<v Speaker 3>the back of the lighting Sunshine. That's for you, Cody, what.
<v Speaker 4>Do you say you shunned me?
<v Speaker 10>Everybody Sam Punk should have listened to me about.
<v Speaker 3>John Cena, but they did it, and the next night
<v Speaker 3>he kicked you right in the twig and Berries proven
<v Speaker 3>you right as usual.
<v Speaker 10>Twigging berries should be Cody Rhoads against the UK's only
<v Speaker 10>ever world champion, drew back and.
<v Speaker 4>Tire close that piece out there. So I should have
<v Speaker 4>told you so, kind of like kind of like Heenan
<v Speaker 4>saying I told you Hogan was a piece of ship
<v Speaker 4>all these Yeah, except not as nearly as uh as poignant,
<v Speaker 4>not even closed. So how are we?
<v Speaker 6>How are we feeling? Let's try to go back to
<v Speaker 6>the feeling elimination chamber night and the possibilities due.
<v Speaker 4>I mean, there's nothing, It's just a fucking I mean,
<v Speaker 4>I've I've yeah, it's just it's it's like it's like
<v Speaker 4>they it's like they didn't know. They really didn't know
<v Speaker 4>what to fucking do. No, Nope, and think that they
<v Speaker 4>didn't they didn't have a game plan like at this
<v Speaker 4>at this point, they should have just kept jouncing the face.
<v Speaker 6>Don't shit, I know, because it's it's gonna end up
<v Speaker 6>there by the time it's over, because eventually people are
<v Speaker 6>gonna poke holes and codys saying, and I don't know.
<v Speaker 6>At one point Triple A said, like, how much fun
<v Speaker 6>would it be to write for a heel sna It's.
<v Speaker 4>Like not that much fun.
<v Speaker 6>Already, you're in the wrong frame of mind. There's no
<v Speaker 6>writing here. Okay, this isn't this isn't about a character sketch.
<v Speaker 6>It's already the characters are already established. You don't have
<v Speaker 6>to write anything.
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, Yeah, now, I mean,
<v Speaker 4>listen again. They just got it all wrong, like they
<v Speaker 4>they they I don't, I don't know if it was.
<v Speaker 4>I mean, they just they got it all wrong. They
<v Speaker 4>did everything wrong with this, Like they couldn't have fucked
<v Speaker 4>it up. They missed all the easy Yeah, this should
<v Speaker 4>have made the easiest fucking heel turn ever. They had
<v Speaker 4>all the elements to just do the right thing, and
<v Speaker 4>everything wrong. You've been awful to me, Like who cares? Fans?
<v Speaker 4>Boo everybody, like you're still one. You have No, you
<v Speaker 4>didn't lose anything, right, you fucking won. It made all
<v Speaker 4>kinds of money. The one guy who shouldn't care that
<v Speaker 4>he gets boot all the time. Is the guy who
<v Speaker 4>went on to make as much money as he would
<v Speaker 4>have if they cheered him, John Cena, Yeah, you know
<v Speaker 4>what I mean. It's not like he should give a shit,
<v Speaker 4>knocked him out of his position for a second, or
<v Speaker 4>had the kind of pathetic So it's a pathetic story.
<v Speaker 4>It's a it's a it's it's just the it's the
<v Speaker 4>absolute like it's lazy. It's extremely lazy. Like they could
<v Speaker 4>have done the Hollywood thing would have been so fucking
<v Speaker 4>money and it would have been so easy, and it
<v Speaker 4>would have been great because you know what, everybody hates
<v Speaker 4>smug Hollywood phonies. Yep, hence the rock Yep. They don't
<v Speaker 4>not like him because he's the Row. They don't like him.
<v Speaker 4>Wait they don't. Yeah, that's not what I meant to say.
<v Speaker 4>It's not that they don't like him because he's the Rock.
<v Speaker 4>It's so they don't like him because he's the Hollywood
<v Speaker 4>rock who came back to control things. Yes, that's why
<v Speaker 4>they don't like That's why people boo him, not because
<v Speaker 4>just because he's the Rock, but because he's Hollywood.
<v Speaker 6>Rock and scene is not coming back to control anything.
<v Speaker 6>Scene is acting like he has no control. Seene is
<v Speaker 6>acting like he is this permanent victim.
<v Speaker 4>You know, Yeah, it's just weird. Like he should just
<v Speaker 4>be he should realize that the Rock had the right,
<v Speaker 4>the right mentality the whole time. Right then, now I'm
<v Speaker 4>gonna splin I should have been listening, you know what.
<v Speaker 4>I should have been listening to the Rock back in
<v Speaker 4>back in twenty twenty seven, twenty No twenty twelve, twenty thirteen.
<v Speaker 6>One of the things Triple A seems to pride himself
<v Speaker 6>on saying is that you know, with the heels, even
<v Speaker 6>if you don't agree with them, you have to understand
<v Speaker 6>where they're coming from. You have to see their perspective
<v Speaker 6>a little bit like, Okay, I get why they're acting
<v Speaker 6>that way. No, that has not happened with this John Cenam.
<v Speaker 4>You don't need to. You don't need to. You don't
<v Speaker 4>need to.
<v Speaker 6>And further you, that's not an option because everything he's
<v Speaker 6>saying to explain where he's coming from just goes in
<v Speaker 6>one ear out the other. Right, everything he's complaining about
<v Speaker 6>having been cost by the fans, he didn't actually lose
<v Speaker 6>out on at all. He didn't have done on anything.
<v Speaker 6>I mean, what difference would it have made if they
<v Speaker 6>were cheering him all those years he was on top?
<v Speaker 4>None? So it's hard for him to point to the harm.
<v Speaker 4>You know what I mean? Right again again you talk
<v Speaker 4>about the What makes it work is not that they
<v Speaker 4>were booing him back then, but that he's resentful that
<v Speaker 4>they cheer him. Now, that's the money, that's where it's
<v Speaker 4>that's where you can bring in the fans. Is that
<v Speaker 4>where were you back then? What makes it? What makes
<v Speaker 4>me special now?
<v Speaker 3>To you?
<v Speaker 13>Right?
<v Speaker 4>Why do you like me now? All of a sudden?
<v Speaker 3>Right?
<v Speaker 4>It just right?
<v Speaker 6>Because that that's what really clicked it in with me,
<v Speaker 6>that you, you fans are not worth catering to, because
<v Speaker 6>it's just something as arbitrary as the passage of time
<v Speaker 6>can have you completely reverse how you feel about somebody.
<v Speaker 4>And that's that that that resonates. I think that's that's
<v Speaker 4>that's that's and that's easy. And live long enough to
<v Speaker 4>see yourself become the villain. Yes, And you know what,
<v Speaker 4>I'm better off now. I'm Hollywood. I make movies, I
<v Speaker 4>make TV shows, I sponsor fucking McDonald's. I'm the king,
<v Speaker 4>I'm the voice of every commercial you hear and I
<v Speaker 4>don't need you, guys. I never did and I don't
<v Speaker 4>need you now. Back then I had to put up
<v Speaker 4>with it because I needed you, because I guess guess what,
<v Speaker 4>You're still gonna buy tickets to my movies. And that's
<v Speaker 4>him winning, that's not that's not him on a mission
<v Speaker 4>to get the fans to look in the mirror. And no, no,
<v Speaker 4>just you don't need them to look in the mirror.
<v Speaker 4>You just tell them I knew all all along. I
<v Speaker 4>knew it all along. You buy you give me money,
<v Speaker 4>you buy my merchandise, you come to see me. I
<v Speaker 4>do you know what happens there? I take that money,
<v Speaker 4>It goes in my pocket.
<v Speaker 6>You know what a self own it is to spend
<v Speaker 6>your days trying to get people to admit or acknowledge
<v Speaker 6>that they've contradicted themselves. You know what a self own
<v Speaker 6>that is. That's like you go to the grave and
<v Speaker 6>the other person that you obsess to the death about
<v Speaker 6>pointing out that they've contradicted themselves just shrugs it off.
<v Speaker 6>And here you go, driving yourself into a mania, trying
<v Speaker 6>to make a case that no one gives a fuck
<v Speaker 6>about it. Meanwhile ignoring you know, putting a skip in
<v Speaker 6>your step, putting a glide in your stride, right, all
<v Speaker 6>at the expense of making you a worthwhile person. You know, No,
<v Speaker 6>I'm just gonna I'm gonna spend all my oxygen in
<v Speaker 6>time talking about how someone else is a hypocrite.
<v Speaker 4>It's like so stupid at that point.
<v Speaker 6>You actually negated your existence at that point, right in
<v Speaker 6>a very strange and curious way. Well, they did make
<v Speaker 6>one bid, did Cody and Scene, as far as I
<v Speaker 6>can tell, to amp up the juice a little bit,
<v Speaker 6>to go a little bit beyond this kind of hyper
<v Speaker 6>superficial you know, you fans are awful kind of an
<v Speaker 6>approach to this thing. And it took place in the
<v Speaker 6>March thirty first edition of RAW. I believe I've emailed
<v Speaker 6>you this. I'm losing track here of what the last
<v Speaker 6>thing I sent you was.
<v Speaker 4>Let me see.
<v Speaker 6>Yes, okay, so we're there, if you can pull this up. Yep,
<v Speaker 6>this one got a little saucy. This is the last
<v Speaker 6>I'm not mistaken. Yes, but as we're recording this, okay,
<v Speaker 6>this is the last confrontation between John Cena and Cody
<v Speaker 6>Rhodes before WrestleMania. Now, quick note, we are recording this
<v Speaker 6>before the Go Home SmackDown, which will be live from
<v Speaker 6>Las Vegas, and I believe has advertised John Cena as appearing.
<v Speaker 6>So there will be one final chapter to this and
<v Speaker 6>we'll certainly reflect that in our live call. But we
<v Speaker 6>had to get this one out the door before SmackDown
<v Speaker 6>obviously because this came out on Saturday morning. I'm not sure, well,
<v Speaker 6>we wouldn't have the time to do it, and I'm
<v Speaker 6>sure people really.
<v Speaker 4>Give a fuck.
<v Speaker 6>So this is this is your appetizer into the weekend,
<v Speaker 6>and so here it is that final bid here to
<v Speaker 6>get you to care.
<v Speaker 4>We'll see how they do. Boss. Let's hit play in
<v Speaker 4>three two one play divided crowd. I think they shouldn't
<v Speaker 4>be divided. They should not be divided. That's part of
<v Speaker 4>the problems starting to happen. Yeah, that's a lot of cheering. Yep.
<v Speaker 4>That's a lot more cheering than Belgium. Yep. Well you
<v Speaker 4>nailed it. That's what's gonna happen. There'll be cheering him
<v Speaker 4>like Hull Colvin at WrestleMania, a farewell tour like that
<v Speaker 4>should be there. This fucking this stuff should they just
<v Speaker 4>they fucked themselves. The shirt merchandise line. They did all
<v Speaker 4>these are they still are they still in the U?
<v Speaker 4>They're still in Oh my god? Enough for this UK
<v Speaker 4>tour after WrestleMania. Hello, that's when you do it. The
<v Speaker 4>towel behind his head again. I'm so tired of this,
<v Speaker 4>the selfish robot. We nailed it.
<v Speaker 3>The smile has.
<v Speaker 12>Become a on the face of a six tillion time
<v Speaker 12>a world champion.
<v Speaker 3>John Tatum.
<v Speaker 4>Sing A long time with that, right, that's what it is.
<v Speaker 4>European is what you say? No, no, no, no, no, no,
<v Speaker 4>no no, it's not saying a long time with John Cena.
<v Speaker 4>Dwayne would have made this work so much better totally.
<v Speaker 4>He would have added it such a different energy because
<v Speaker 4>because John Cena should not speak, look at him, he
<v Speaker 4>should be motionless and emotionless. They're booing the hell out
<v Speaker 4>of him. But yeah, but this could have been They
<v Speaker 4>could have he could have had a nuclear heat, he
<v Speaker 4>could have had nuclear volcanic heat. That sounds nuclear to me. No, no,
<v Speaker 4>because half the cross the crowd right exactly. That amazing
<v Speaker 4>when he turns heel, half the people are with him
<v Speaker 4>and against him, doesn't matter, but that that negates the
<v Speaker 4>whole thing too. Yep, his baby face. Half the people
<v Speaker 4>love him, half the people hate him. I mean half
<v Speaker 4>the people of him. I mean, what is it? Two
<v Speaker 4>thousand and five? Sounds like the same thing, and before
<v Speaker 4>he can draw the mic to his mouth, Cody, when
<v Speaker 4>you watch it back to back like this, it's so nauseating.
<v Speaker 4>Here we go. Hey, I will say one thing. During
<v Speaker 4>our recent coverage of w W European Rampage again in Germany,
<v Speaker 4>we were kind of lotting and lamenting the loss of
<v Speaker 4>you know, a gimmick where you could bring the American
<v Speaker 4>flag to Germany and get a German crowd. In the US,
<v Speaker 4>Cody is doing that. Cody doesn't get booted anywhere. He
<v Speaker 4>wraps himself on the flag. That's true. But I don't
<v Speaker 4>see anyone buying American flags and bring him to the shows. Yes,
<v Speaker 4>that's true. Was he gonna? Was he a fucking getting
<v Speaker 4>ready to do a production of Guys and Dolls with
<v Speaker 4>that fucking suit? Yeah, he looks like a guy at
<v Speaker 4>Johnsona looks like a doll. Like again, there's just like
<v Speaker 4>it's just this is just a title program. There's nothing. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>there's just nothing interesting in this at all. Exactly like
<v Speaker 4>Johnsena might as well have been a baby face and
<v Speaker 4>just fucking been like the heel in this program. You know,
<v Speaker 4>point we probably would have been in much the same place,
<v Speaker 4>right exactly, and it would have been and we wouldn't
<v Speaker 4>have that fucking rock bullshit pandering to the fans about yes,
<v Speaker 4>his whiny crap. If you're not going to follow up
<v Speaker 4>with the rock thing and add that layer, probably shouldn't
<v Speaker 4>have done the term. I just can't believe that a
<v Speaker 4>month after that angle, three four weeks after that angle,
<v Speaker 4>it feels this kind of blah, you know, this kind
<v Speaker 4>of standard. I mean, it's like it's not even I mean,
<v Speaker 4>it's it's crazy to me that the first appearance of
<v Speaker 4>John Cena changed this whole the feel of the whole thing. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>that was it. When he got in that when he
<v Speaker 4>came out and got in that ring and you realize
<v Speaker 4>where he was going, it was like, Nope, this ain't it.
<v Speaker 4>And they should have been smart enough.
<v Speaker 3>To know it.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, don't you know what, Yeah, don't bother me till
<v Speaker 4>the end, either bothered me to the as. Yeah, Sena
<v Speaker 4>dresses like you would dress a male Barbie doll. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>if you were five, right, exactly. That's what I mean.
<v Speaker 4>You know, it's like if you were a child and
<v Speaker 4>they didn't know how people dressed in real life, you
<v Speaker 4>dressing like John Cena. Does his clothes look like Barbie
<v Speaker 4>Doll clothes? Yeah, the hang off his body in a
<v Speaker 4>similar way. Oh my god, look at he's He's like,
<v Speaker 4>you don't even know why he's angry anymore. Is he
<v Speaker 4>angry yet? He's just kind of just yeah, dopey, mopey
<v Speaker 4>n sena, it's an idiot. Okay. Now we got to
<v Speaker 4>listen to them sing the song. Tell them, John, tell
<v Speaker 4>them shut up. Right, that's your moment, that's your moment
<v Speaker 4>to really take something from them. It's like, why don't
<v Speaker 4>you shut up now singing fucking songs? Standing there waiting
<v Speaker 4>for this.
<v Speaker 13>I know.
<v Speaker 4>It's like it's like it's all about soaking in ovation moments,
<v Speaker 4>soaking in moments and ovation and the crowd energy. And
<v Speaker 4>this is something Kowalski told me. Just pause and take it.
<v Speaker 4>You Kowalski, bullshit. Kowalski never fucking said that said time
<v Speaker 4>you fucking comeback, so the fans fucking go rabbit for you.
<v Speaker 4>I'll tell you when you start beating the ship out
<v Speaker 4>of me.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, we've listened to you talk for two weeks.
<v Speaker 4>The same with you, fuckhead, you've talked more. Yeah, right
<v Speaker 4>for you, like he should just fucking slap Cody in
<v Speaker 4>the face.
<v Speaker 3>Where do you want to start?
<v Speaker 4>Said discourse? Cody said the word discourse.
<v Speaker 3>When it comes to me. Okay, for starters, I have
<v Speaker 3>a little bit of a list, you know, y'all know.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, look at him smiling the guy's face who almost
<v Speaker 4>killed him in Toronto.
<v Speaker 3>Stop.
<v Speaker 4>Okay, let's bring up star Dust. Okay, that's what I thought.
<v Speaker 4>That's where I thought. The scene of hill Turn was
<v Speaker 4>going back at elimination chamber, right, not his psychotic obsession
<v Speaker 4>with winning the belt.
<v Speaker 3>That's gotta bother you.
<v Speaker 9>I mean, that's who you're wrestling at WrestleMania forty one.
<v Speaker 3>Going on last in your final.
<v Speaker 4>Makes you get that shot in their camera? Guy, startups wrestling?
<v Speaker 4>That's wrestling wrestling? How about restless.
<v Speaker 3>Bingo? All right, all right, this is a good one.
<v Speaker 3>I have an arm tattoo, but it's on my neck.
<v Speaker 4>Codes Codin's Roads, Codin's Codin's Roads, Codin's Coden's Roads, Codin's
<v Speaker 4>Codin's Roads. Oh I fucking I hate every in the
<v Speaker 4>fucking planet ready for this, the heel turn of John Sada,
<v Speaker 4>the neutral turn of Johnson's I created.
<v Speaker 3>Gosh, there's so much I knew you weren't gonna bite
<v Speaker 3>on it.
<v Speaker 9>Need of this stuff, though, And here's the thing. Perhaps
<v Speaker 9>I'm struggling. Perhaps I'm struggling with the idea that Superman
<v Speaker 9>is really dead.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but honestly, Superman isn't dead. Superman is just fucking null, yes,
<v Speaker 4>like Superman is merely a man, Like Superman is just
<v Speaker 4>like took a nap or something. Superman is boring.
<v Speaker 9>That would that would bring me to my next point. Actually,
<v Speaker 9>I do know that your words have matched your actions.
<v Speaker 9>I think for the last two weeks.
<v Speaker 3>You have lied to this audience.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and not what you all do.
<v Speaker 9>I know you cared about me at one, about them.
<v Speaker 9>So take the opportunity. You don't have to look at me,
<v Speaker 9>look at them and tell them. John Cena, really.
<v Speaker 2>Why.
<v Speaker 4>Still asking why after all this? I mean, honestly, I
<v Speaker 4>don't know why yet myself. I know I know it's
<v Speaker 4>so bad. It's so bad that I can't like anchor
<v Speaker 4>on one line right that explains it? Sold out to who?
<v Speaker 4>There's nobody are no right. I mean, you sold your
<v Speaker 4>soul apparently, but we haven't seen the soul taker.
<v Speaker 3>Not going to reduce myself and punch down to your level.
<v Speaker 4>That's a good life.
<v Speaker 3>Just to protect you, Cody Rhodes, You've been protected long enough.
<v Speaker 4>Oh here we go. Okay.
<v Speaker 3>I'm also I'm also not gonna cook you.
<v Speaker 10>Uh what, I'm gonna bury you, okay, just like I
<v Speaker 10>buried everyone else. They've been saying for years that John
<v Speaker 10>cina Berry's talent. I don't bury talent.
<v Speaker 3>I am talent.
<v Speaker 4>Huh. Okay, I bury mediocrity. Oh well, I like that.
<v Speaker 4>That's good.
<v Speaker 10>I don't give a rats ass about your list or
<v Speaker 10>your failures. You have manipulated your way to the top
<v Speaker 10>of this business, and your ego outmatches your ability.
<v Speaker 4>Okay.
<v Speaker 10>All you have done here is ride the coattails of
<v Speaker 10>my success. I have been so great that the w
<v Speaker 10>we can hand the heartbeat of this organization to my chauffeur.
<v Speaker 4>That's good, that's right, But he should be wearing a suit.
<v Speaker 10>Is nothing more than my chauffeur, A slimy pickpocket who
<v Speaker 10>thinks just because he stole the blueprint, he can run
<v Speaker 10>the Kingdom.
<v Speaker 3>There's your why Cody Rhoades because you with that discuss.
<v Speaker 4>Okay, so this is the Belgium promo right side, and
<v Speaker 4>this is this is it like, this is where you.
<v Speaker 3>Start the program with underwhelming. This is where you start
<v Speaker 3>the program egotistical skull.
<v Speaker 4>You have to be auf there, but it should be
<v Speaker 4>fucking you.
<v Speaker 10>Didn't listen and it shows you're too perfect, you're too polished,
<v Speaker 10>you're too rehearsed. You rely on lazy gimmicks like them
<v Speaker 10>singing your name.
<v Speaker 4>Over and over. This is great, This is great. Yeah?
<v Speaker 4>Is it sad that I'm just sitting here waiting for
<v Speaker 4>him to fuck it up?
<v Speaker 10>Actually, you are just like the pipe Piper because all
<v Speaker 10>you've ever done.
<v Speaker 4>But if they fucking Roddy Piper's music hit and out
<v Speaker 4>came Piper's corps.
<v Speaker 10>These people into loving mediocrity, strip away his music and entrance.
<v Speaker 10>There is not much to look at except a thick
<v Speaker 10>pin striped suit.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, yes, yes, but you could.
<v Speaker 10>Walk me out here in the silence and bet your
<v Speaker 10>last dollar I would body you before your first breath.
<v Speaker 4>Boy, go do does not like.
<v Speaker 3>He doesn't act like me, and he's sure as hell
<v Speaker 3>doesn't work.
<v Speaker 4>He should have said, doesn't act like me. That's why
<v Speaker 4>I'm in all fucking movies, and he's not.
<v Speaker 3>You don't look like you, you don't act like you,
<v Speaker 3>and you don't work like you. Because after all these years,
<v Speaker 3>you are still afraid to show who you are. So
<v Speaker 3>what do we get instead?
<v Speaker 10>Cody gives us a generic mix of every superstar he's
<v Speaker 10>ever loved or TV show he's ever watched in some big,
<v Speaker 10>confused blob, and it makes you looks like a sixteen
<v Speaker 10>year old kid taking acting lessons who's still afraid of
<v Speaker 10>public speaking. You you have showed me one thing, and
<v Speaker 10>the one thing you have showed me is someone mediocre
<v Speaker 10>wearing something meaningful nowadays is.
<v Speaker 4>Enough to trick these people careful about describing your own
<v Speaker 4>run John, Yeah, damn well, that's that's good though. That's good.
<v Speaker 10>Yes, that's good for this around by a paint by
<v Speaker 10>numbers sociopathic NEPO baby who is so into himself he
<v Speaker 10>had his wrestling gimmick tattooed for the world to see.
<v Speaker 10>It's not where your tattoos at, Cody, it's what your
<v Speaker 10>tattoo is that exposes you to the world for who
<v Speaker 10>you are.
<v Speaker 3>A common fan like them.
<v Speaker 4>That's great.
<v Speaker 10>So after WrestleMania, it'll be great for you. Go straight
<v Speaker 10>to fanatics, buy the toy buildings, stay by, call yourself
<v Speaker 10>their champion because the last real champion is taking that
<v Speaker 10>home forever and.
<v Speaker 4>Exposing you for who you are is a babyface again?
<v Speaker 3>Wow? An errand boy, that got lucky.
<v Speaker 4>Ah, they don't know what they're fucking doing. Chanting Sina,
<v Speaker 4>What about the hillt Why pal were they chatting for Hogan?
<v Speaker 4>By August of ninety six?
<v Speaker 3>No oh, I didn't expect to say this. Maybe you're right,
<v Speaker 3>maybe I was a body, but you know who chose me?
<v Speaker 3>They chose me?
<v Speaker 4>I hear booze.
<v Speaker 3>Can you say the.
<v Speaker 9>Same, John Cena? Or was it one guy in an
<v Speaker 9>office who chose you? Who's not here anymore? And we
<v Speaker 9>don't talk about it?
<v Speaker 4>Wow?
<v Speaker 3>Oh, fan, strip everything away from me, right? I don't
<v Speaker 3>know who I am? Who the hell knows who they are?
<v Speaker 9>I know this.
<v Speaker 3>I'm Cody Rhodes. I'm a wrestler like my father before me.
<v Speaker 9>And if anybody is a company creation, it's you, John Cena.
<v Speaker 13>And not me.
<v Speaker 4>You said it's good because you can throw it back
<v Speaker 4>at it.
<v Speaker 3>That's terrified of you on the mic.
<v Speaker 9>I'm not because I know you've got more dick in
<v Speaker 9>that promo than you're doing your George.
<v Speaker 3>That's good.
<v Speaker 4>He's gonna last make fun of.
<v Speaker 9>Me for appearing like I'm sixteen taking public speaking lessons. Well,
<v Speaker 9>you're the one who hangs out with zach Efron and
<v Speaker 9>which as he was sixteen.
<v Speaker 4>And the first time, and this whole fucking thing they
<v Speaker 4>talk about his Hollywood career. Yep, what a.
<v Speaker 9>Softball, Thank you, John, What a softball you've thrown me
<v Speaker 9>by saying you created all of this.
<v Speaker 3>You created me. Here's what you created, pal.
<v Speaker 9>You created a lot of disenfranchised fans who made it
<v Speaker 9>easy for me to pack up and go elsewhere and.
<v Speaker 3>Say, hey, look at me.
<v Speaker 9>Don't act like you cleaned up your room before you
<v Speaker 9>left and went to Hollywood, John, don't act.
<v Speaker 4>His quick breaths are making me or giving me trauma.
<v Speaker 3>And while we're at it.
<v Speaker 9>While we're at it, there are two of us standing
<v Speaker 9>in this ring right now, And what I'm about to
<v Speaker 9>ask you might punch a giant.
<v Speaker 3>Hole in all that logic that you just threw up.
<v Speaker 9>And it's quite simple between you and I, which one
<v Speaker 9>of us sold out to the Rock.
<v Speaker 4>Okay, that comes back long overdue. Seriously, I feel like
<v Speaker 4>they tried to tack away from Rock and then gave
<v Speaker 4>up and came back around. Yeah, at the last fucking moment,
<v Speaker 4>this all feels like a departure from the last few programs,
<v Speaker 4>right it does.
<v Speaker 3>You are still You're still my hero, but you're also
<v Speaker 3>a piece of ship.
<v Speaker 9>He is.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Yeah, that's funny. It's a new one pieces just
<v Speaker 4>like all these people.
<v Speaker 3>Your brain is filled with feces and not facts.
<v Speaker 4>Idiot?
<v Speaker 10>Was I ever protected from an audience or a superstar
<v Speaker 10>present company included taking their best shot at me? As
<v Speaker 10>a matter of fact, everyone knows every time I step
<v Speaker 10>on this canvas, it is a challenge to every arena
<v Speaker 10>or every superstar dumb enough to walk down that ramp
<v Speaker 10>to take their strongest swing to see if they are
<v Speaker 10>worthy to put me in the ground. No one, no
<v Speaker 10>one has been worthy. So I decided to just do
<v Speaker 10>it myself. That's why, Cody, I have never left. I
<v Speaker 10>have always been here because no matter how high the
<v Speaker 10>hill should climb, right.
<v Speaker 3>They give me, I find a way to make it great.
<v Speaker 4>You had to leave.
<v Speaker 3>You had to leave because you really that your best.
<v Speaker 3>You can't wipe my ass. Empires for billionaires, this is great.
<v Speaker 10>All you've ever done is steal money from their kids.
<v Speaker 10>See you at WrestleMania, Champ John John John No, no, no.
<v Speaker 5>No, no, no, no no.
<v Speaker 11>Hey.
<v Speaker 9>I just want to remind you and all the time
<v Speaker 9>that I have been here and everything I've been through,
<v Speaker 9>never once has an audience, never once have they chanted
<v Speaker 9>at me.
<v Speaker 3>You can't wrestle.
<v Speaker 4>Sina. Oh my god, stop looking around like a ball.
<v Speaker 4>They're not gonna chant it now, are they. They're not
<v Speaker 4>gonna chant it now, are they. They wouldn't dare. Oh
<v Speaker 4>it' seen the steps back in the spring and his
<v Speaker 4>step he should do like a he should do like
<v Speaker 4>a uh uh uh, like a rear takedown and like
<v Speaker 4>do a fucking all this amateur wrestling ship right now?
<v Speaker 4>Is it his fighting stance as is Cody and seeing
<v Speaker 4>the cracks a smile and you know you should do
<v Speaker 4>he should kick him in the balls again. That's a
<v Speaker 4>good idea. Oh, it goes after him, duck underneath, Cody
<v Speaker 4>hooks him up crossroads readjust the tie that's strong for Cody. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>what that tells me a scene is winning, right, there's
<v Speaker 4>no reason to have them touch unless I agree. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>not in that way. I again, I think another cheap
<v Speaker 4>shot by scene would have been better. Yes, if Cody's winning, no,
<v Speaker 4>even if he's not. Well, Yeah, how they think I'm
<v Speaker 4>not saying it's yeah right, that's how they feel.
<v Speaker 3>Oh, you know what this has said.
<v Speaker 14>Is indeed worthy. Tony Rhoads isn't afraid to show who
<v Speaker 14>he is, and in Night k n at WrestleMania, Tony
<v Speaker 14>Rhoads can show the world it truly is the undisputed.
<v Speaker 4>Champion. So they get they get a little bit of
<v Speaker 4>it back or what's your thought? Yeah, No, I think
<v Speaker 4>that was great, but that should have been the beginning. Yes, honestly,
<v Speaker 4>I mean, listen, I stand by my belief he should
<v Speaker 4>not have been on television at all. Yes, I think
<v Speaker 4>they could have gotten so much out of teasing and
<v Speaker 4>not delivering. But that's if you're gonna if you're gonna
<v Speaker 4>have them do promo battles and and you know it's
<v Speaker 4>gonna be fucking eight mile every now and again, then
<v Speaker 4>then this is where you start. That was great. What
<v Speaker 4>was great about it? It was great because the focus
<v Speaker 4>was on what he wants. Yeah, They never talked about
<v Speaker 4>the fans or anything that ship right did but but
<v Speaker 4>not in the way but but right, But it wasn't
<v Speaker 4>about blaming the fans. It was about you did this,
<v Speaker 4>and that's why they booed you. You did this, and
<v Speaker 4>that's why they said you sucked. And like that's that's
<v Speaker 4>where you come from. You can't blame the fans, Like
<v Speaker 4>that's that's cheap, it's lame and lazy. Yeah. Yeah, so
<v Speaker 4>they did that.
<v Speaker 6>They flipped a page there they did, and they figured
<v Speaker 6>out some some cutting lines about each other. Yeah, you know,
<v Speaker 6>we're designed to make you look at each other in
<v Speaker 6>a different way, which is always kind of a lynchpin
<v Speaker 6>of a great promo or a great line. Sure you
<v Speaker 6>make someone go wait a minute. Yeah, he is kind
<v Speaker 6>of like that, isn't he?
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, exactly exactly. So we've been on quite a journey.
<v Speaker 6>But I think it's it's safe to say, in both
<v Speaker 6>of our cases that we are not anywhere near where
<v Speaker 6>we were excitement wise, the night Scena kicked him in
<v Speaker 6>the balls.
<v Speaker 4>No, that's not again. He has not shown himself to
<v Speaker 4>be crazy like he was that night he.
<v Speaker 6>Had to go nuts. He didn't go nuts the whole time.
<v Speaker 4>He couldn't do it.
<v Speaker 6>He couldn't bring himself to go nuts. He had to
<v Speaker 6>play this cool, collected you know, like even if he's
<v Speaker 6>boiling inside. Like the only difference between the baby face
<v Speaker 6>John Cene and heal John Cena is a heel. John
<v Speaker 6>Cena kind of makes a scowl on his face right
<v Speaker 6>when someone insults him. Where's the baby face Johnson?
<v Speaker 4>And is open and is open to criticizing the fans
<v Speaker 4>as opposed to like saying, hey, you guys, believe whatever
<v Speaker 4>you want. I'm still here exactly.
<v Speaker 6>That's not much of a hill turn to me, right,
<v Speaker 6>that's not the hill turns I knew.
<v Speaker 4>No, I know it should have been. Again, a complete
<v Speaker 4>change of character, and it all starts with the look.
<v Speaker 6>Thank you and again the final promo here from Cody
<v Speaker 6>on the April eleventh SmackDown. There will be one presumably
<v Speaker 6>maybe even another mid Ring microphone face off on the
<v Speaker 6>final smack down the night before Night one of WrestleMania.
<v Speaker 6>So much for that, but we're going to bring our
<v Speaker 6>special report home with this interview. Here Cody mid Ring
<v Speaker 6>with the WB Championship proudly displayed, and what looks to
<v Speaker 6>be the Spinner belt as well.
<v Speaker 4>Boss, are your goodness? I I am ready three two
<v Speaker 4>one play. I always got all the belts, wow, I
<v Speaker 4>mean literally every fucking belt. There's the beautiful one Attitude one. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>that the Bruno under the last you guys have gotten
<v Speaker 4>I think so.
<v Speaker 3>Thank you very much, Seattle. You have always been.
<v Speaker 4>We're back in the States now.
<v Speaker 9>Finally You've always been good to me, whether it's just
<v Speaker 9>sold out arena here tonight or when I.
<v Speaker 10>Did defy and now being back here again.
<v Speaker 3>Thank you very much.
<v Speaker 4>I find to defy wis no.
<v Speaker 9>Is the tangible definition of realized potential. It's the denotation
<v Speaker 9>of excellence, the metric that stands this ride here soon.
<v Speaker 9>I want to see you are the best wrestler in
<v Speaker 9>the world.
<v Speaker 4>Show me the old belts. I don't care about this right.
<v Speaker 9>Now, and I'm blessed. I'm blessed to be able to
<v Speaker 9>carry this and it's mighty weight. But it won't always
<v Speaker 9>be me. That's what this has become. That's what WrestleMania
<v Speaker 9>has turned into. It's not just a match between two
<v Speaker 9>many more, it's about our right to keep this at home.
<v Speaker 9>It's about the next twenty champions. Whether that's Sean's NXT
<v Speaker 9>kids watching wrestlesly or id prospects.
<v Speaker 4>Maybe there's a young man in spinner belt? What's the
<v Speaker 4>other one?
<v Speaker 2>One more?
<v Speaker 3>Come on, Champion? About the next twenty champion?
<v Speaker 6>This match is about the next twenty champions, Okay, And
<v Speaker 6>then I thought it was about Johnson attorney heel.
<v Speaker 3>Right, trying to take all that away.
<v Speaker 4>It'd be great if you found a loophole and like
<v Speaker 4>was able to actually like decommission the Dude Championship when
<v Speaker 4>he retired. So there is no world champions what's on
<v Speaker 4>the right? What is Oh that's Hogan's age. Oh that's
<v Speaker 4>the WrestleMania two belt. Yep, no big Green belt. Huh.
<v Speaker 6>I know they don't have the one he wonted eighty four. Yeah,
<v Speaker 6>they can't believe there's still let's.
<v Speaker 4>Go sena chance. That really is amazing to me. They are.
<v Speaker 4>Wouldn't it happen if they fucking manned up and made
<v Speaker 4>him Hollywood Hollywood Cina.
<v Speaker 3>John c.
<v Speaker 9>Has neglected to make Seattle part of his farewell tour.
<v Speaker 3>He is up to be in Vegas for SmackDown next week.
<v Speaker 9>It would be cowardice on my part to rebuttal John's
<v Speaker 9>remarks from when we shared the ring in London.
<v Speaker 3>But one thing he said that sticks with me.
<v Speaker 9>He referred to me in the placement of my tattoo.
<v Speaker 9>He said, me having this tattoo makes me a common fan.
<v Speaker 4>As opposed to a common man. That's true, He's just
<v Speaker 4>a common fan.
<v Speaker 9>Working hard tattoo for the same reason that I wear
<v Speaker 9>this suit. It's not because I think I'm somebody, It's because.
<v Speaker 3>I want to be somebody. Is that somebody who can.
<v Speaker 9>Sell out the world's most famous arena one hundred and
<v Speaker 9>eighty eight times to the rhythmic chance of his own name.
<v Speaker 3>Is that somebody who can sit up each and every
<v Speaker 3>night broken ribs.
<v Speaker 9>And become beautiful w E's phenom is that somebody who
<v Speaker 9>can set the world ablaze with Latino heats.
<v Speaker 6>And disputed title was Eddie the Wing Deos undertaker and
<v Speaker 6>the other one of the old one is Bruno. Now
<v Speaker 6>he comes to the spinner belt. IM gonna call out
<v Speaker 6>Hogan on my last belt.
<v Speaker 4>Word about that he's got any guerrero chant in the
<v Speaker 4>middle of the Yeah, right, Cody John Cena program, he
<v Speaker 4>spun it. It's spending Wow, that's the old one.
<v Speaker 9>Carry a company on his back through good times and
<v Speaker 9>bad for ten years. John Cena. John Cena looks at
<v Speaker 9>this and considers it a bad thing.
<v Speaker 3>I don't.
<v Speaker 9>I see it as a man who is trying to
<v Speaker 9>break the wheel, a man who is trying to find himself.
<v Speaker 9>To sound familiar, John, You've told me that I don't
<v Speaker 9>know who I am, that I don't present myself authentically.
<v Speaker 3>Here's what I do know, John, I'm the w w
<v Speaker 3>E champion and you are not.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's true.
<v Speaker 3>Always teaching, John is always preaching.
<v Speaker 9>Perhaps this is the one time in my life that
<v Speaker 9>I can teach John Cena a lesson, A lesson I
<v Speaker 9>saw my old man struggle with as a career babyface,
<v Speaker 9>and it's very simple, John.
<v Speaker 4>They are allowed to love somebody else, and Dusty did
<v Speaker 4>have trouble with that.
<v Speaker 3>I told myself the captain here, but I'm part of
<v Speaker 3>a that has c him.
<v Speaker 9>Puss A quarterback, Jordon Jayu, so Rio, Ripley, Live Morgan,
<v Speaker 9>aj Styles, Kevin Owens, Sammy's.
<v Speaker 3>Aying, just the name a few we make each other better.
<v Speaker 3>And now I found myself with the unenviable task.
<v Speaker 4>But it's in my.
<v Speaker 9>Nature to want this task that I have to halt
<v Speaker 9>history with your record setting title win so that we
<v Speaker 9>can have history here in the first place.
<v Speaker 3>John Cen is a man of his word. He said
<v Speaker 3>he was leaving. He means it. He says he means
<v Speaker 3>to take this with him. He means it. So let
<v Speaker 3>me share some honesty with you.
<v Speaker 5>John.
<v Speaker 9>I'll tell you the same thing that I told Brock,
<v Speaker 9>the same thing that I told Roman. I do my
<v Speaker 9>best work when I'm back into a corner. I don't flinch,
<v Speaker 9>I fight, I wrestle. That's right, John.
<v Speaker 4>But bell is gonna ring, goodline, and.
<v Speaker 9>When it does, and this is over, I leave you
<v Speaker 9>to this ring, John, to have your moment, your moment
<v Speaker 9>to say goodbye. It would be clever for me to
<v Speaker 9>tell John your time is up, my time is now.
<v Speaker 9>But John, you've known your time is up for quite
<v Speaker 9>some time, and that's why you did what you did.
<v Speaker 9>And one day my time will be up soon, But
<v Speaker 9>until then, this is timeless.
<v Speaker 2>And this.
<v Speaker 3>Stays home.
<v Speaker 4>This stays with us, the People's champion.
<v Speaker 12>By the champ and I love connecting all this actually
<v Speaker 12>Bruno's belt.
<v Speaker 3>Even pausing at the spinner belt.
<v Speaker 4>And Wade, that's not the John scene we've seen, right,
<v Speaker 4>there right, keep from the relation. Cham for a reason.
<v Speaker 6>You have it, and I invite you to consider how
<v Speaker 6>much more electric it would be if Cody delivered that
<v Speaker 6>exact same promo on that exact same date, and we
<v Speaker 6>haven't yet to hear a word from John Cena.
<v Speaker 4>I just think it'd be amazing.
<v Speaker 6>Well, we can't focus too much on what wasn't. We
<v Speaker 6>have to focus now as we turn to the live
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<v Speaker 6>It might not be one we talk about ten years
<v Speaker 6>from now, like we have so many other great heel
<v Speaker 6>turns over and over again on the show, but consider
<v Speaker 6>this the first draft of that history. We will see
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