Sean’s Cruel Summer

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Speaker 1: Hey, every well, welcome to Happy Hour.

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Speaker 2: I'm Joe and I'm Serena.

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Speaker 1: Yea, we are here with Sean from Bechelor and Paradise, who we always refer to as Hot Sean.

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Speaker 2: We do. It's really stuck.

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Speaker 3: That nickname has really transitioned from your past to your president Sean.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it has. Well, Thank you all for having me, appreciate it and looking forward to talking about this episode with you.

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Speaker 2: Sean. Is this your third time on Happy Hour?

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Speaker 4: I think second, second time we did after the tell All, which was fun. I don't think. Yeah, it's only my second time.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, he's never been on.

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Speaker 5: You've never been on as a solo guest.

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Speaker 4: No, you guys never had me on.

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Speaker 2: So oh, welcome, Happy to have you here.

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Speaker 5: Don't give us attitude already.

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Speaker 4: Shot right, I'm just messing with you all. I'm just messing you just got here.

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Speaker 5: Why you can you explain real quick?

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Speaker 1: Just a very uh, just a little breakdown of why you are Hot Sean.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Hot Sean started when I was a turned at Barstow Sports. So I was going to college in Fordham. Ended up getting hooked up with some of the guys there my first day when I show up to the office. There's a group of guys that don't necessarily look like me. I guess you could say. So Dave el friends was recording the rundown and I was sitting there doing my work, just going through like their social media accounts, and he looks at me and he's like, who the fuck is this kid? What is he doing here? And then he's like, say, I say. He said I was too good looking to be there, and then he wrote a blog about it, and then it just stuck. And now thankfully, I guess it stuck.

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Speaker 2: There are worse nicknames to have, for sure.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I don't hate it at all. I mean it's a pretty good one, ugly Sean, like your looking Sean. So yeah, it's not bad.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so we uh we see you.

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Speaker 1: You know, let's you're you're in Paradise and he hesitations and going to Paradise?

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Speaker 5: Were you all in right when they asked you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're Actually was some hesitation. So when I got sent home from the bachelorette, I had a miscall from the people that were casting for Paradise. It was like so quick, I just got in the door and my place here in Tampa and I had just taken off a bunch of time for work, so I was like, you know what, Like, I need some time to decompress think about it. And I honestly was turned off against it initially just because it was so quick and it really isn't a really quick jump from the bachelorette to filming Paradise. And then the more I thought about it and thought more about the time I had on a bachelorette, the people I met, like, I really did have a great experience, had so much fun. So I was like, you know what, let's go back for a round two. Let's do it. So after a deep thought, wasn't.

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Speaker 5: Too bad and you quit your job?

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Speaker 4: Correct, I would say, let go. So there's there's a story that I wish made the Bachelorette where we're in New Orleans and I had to get a phone call from anybody at all and I get pulled into a room and there's a phone there and I take this phone call to my work. They're like, Hey, you don't come back to work on Monday, You're fired. And it was just before hometown, so I was kind of deep into it, so I was like, oh my god, it's crazy. But I kind of pulled like a Jordan Bell for It moment where I was like, I'm not fucking leaving. So then I ended up getting sent home like right after that, and then went to work on Monday. So I got back to Tampa on a Sunday, show up at the office on Monday, no time to decompress. So then I went back. I was like, hey, you know, I want to go do Paradise and they're like, absolutely not. So I was like, all right, well, I guess they're not going to work out for us.

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Speaker 5: Then well, and what do you do?

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Speaker 4: I'm in sales I work for I used to sell paper on HR software. Now I work for a tax advisory firm in their sales team.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so you got you got another job?

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Speaker 4: I did? I did get another job. Yeah, we're good'd that's.

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Speaker 5: Good the hair.

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Speaker 1: So going into Paradise, who who are you the most interesting in?

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Speaker 5: Who are you looking forward to see it? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Going into Paradise, I was definitely looking forward to to meeting Jess Yeah really yeah, no worries.

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Speaker 1: Did you think the swifty line was gonna was gonna work?

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Speaker 2: And are you really a swift? Ye?

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Speaker 4: I need to know who I pissed off in the Chyroinde apartment because I actually am a swift. Ye, I love Taylor Swift. I that was the first show I went to when I get back in the Bachelotte, like two days after filming, went to Taylor Swift show in Tampa. So I'm a little pissed off when they were calling me out for not being a Swifty. I don't necessarily know if that was gonna work, but she had. I think she had just gone to a tailor Swift show, as did I. It was just something that we had in common. I also met Kat before, not in person, but she lived in Tampa at the time and we had some mutual friends. So I kind of connected with her afterwards, and she helped me out quite a bit actually leaving the Bachelotte, because it is it's tough to adjust back to a normal life for a little bit afterwards, so she was really really helpful in that aspect. But those really the only two people that even knew. But yeah, I was excited to see Jess.

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Speaker 3: Long story short, so we see you. You know, kind of hit on Jess a little bit, but you end up having a connection with Rachel. Were you expecting to see her down there? Was that a surprise to you?

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Speaker 4: Definitely a shock to see Rachel on the beach. Obviously being a bachelorette, there's only been I think one before that that's going down to Paradise, So definitely a shock. So I think I had it in my mind where it's like, oh, like Jess is going to be there, excited to see her, and then Rachel was definitely a pleasant surprise.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so let's not we're not going to talk yet about this week's episode.

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Speaker 5: Okay, what is your up until this week?

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Speaker 1: What is your relationship with Rachel is it? Is there anything going on or is it really.

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Speaker 5: Just more of a friendship.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because all we've seen, like we saw you guys make it out a little in the pool, definitely hanging out. You're getting listed as you know, one of the couples on the beach. But we do see after the Truth Circle where you say you were kind of interested in exploring with Jess, you and Rachel have a conversation where she's kind of like, yeah, like go whatever, and you guys are You're kind of like, okay, we're on the same page. Like there's kind of an acknowledgement that maybe things aren't that serious, but we'd love to hear from your perspective.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we were on the same page. She was great. Rachel was so cool. She's very chill, definitely different than what I expected. But yeah, I think it was one of those things for me in particular, like Rachel was really great. I enjoyed spending time with her, but just in the back of my mind, there was always that like I had a great conversation with Jess the first day we were there, so it was always like, I feel great about both of these people, but I'm hanging out with Rachel, Jess was with Blake at the time, and no one was really stepping on toe. So there's always that thing in the back of my mind where it's like, I should have explored this a little bit further, because I don't want to get down to the end and like have any any regrets or any thoughts about why didn't I kind of take that opportunity, I guess. So it was tough for me because I was kind of in half in half out with Rachel, which is not fair to her, but I just couldn't get it out of my head for whatever reason.

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Speaker 5: Do you think if you would have been all in on Rachel, she would have been all in.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I think we're definitely taking it slow, remembering what it was like in the beach at first. I think maybe if I had put a little bit more effort and attention to that relationship, it would have been great to kind of see where it went. But I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Who knows what stopped you from pursuing Jess more heavily in the beginning.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because you did.

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Speaker 1: You just you just said something that we talked about in our recap that it does seem like this year people don't want to step on.

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Speaker 5: Other people's toes, Like, no, everyone's playing it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if like, maybe we could be totally off here, but really it feels like there's this like mutual agreement or unspoken thing ayund the beach where like no one wants to step on anyone's toes. Really, but we could be totally off.

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Speaker 4: No, I think you guys are spot on. I think from day one it was one of those things that after the first night, there was no one really flip flopping their connections or even trying to flip flop. So that made it a little bit uncomfortable for me, where I was like, I really do want to like talk to Jess more, but no one is doing this. Do I want to be the guy that steps on people's toes and like tries to do it. So that was a struggle for me when we were filming, was like, man, like, no one's flip flopping. I wanted someone to just go and like try to flip flop real quick so I'd out have an open door, but didn't happen that way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like the only person that kind of flip flopped was Aaron B. But he did it like so fast, like beginning of day two that it was like, yeah, it almost doesn't count, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: I didn't even know that Aaron BA and Mercedes had that conversation the first night, so I didn't even know that he flip flopped until I was watching it back. But it was very early on.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, so fast, So are okay?

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Speaker 1: So then we see you go, you go make another move at Jess, But what is Blake in Jess's relationship?

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Speaker 5: Like before you do that, like where are they?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think That's why I went and had that conversation. I think they were I don't know, it's felt like they were on the same page, like they're still open to exploring new things. I think Jess, I've mentioned that at the bonfire Blake did. I think at that stage when we're in Paradise, people were still open. So I was just going to check in I guess on where they're at. But they were great. There was never any problems between them. They seemed like they were happy and having fun.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, So would you or, like with the people on the beach, consider them one of the stronger couples at this point or are people like uncertain of where they stand because I know it's kind of that time in Paradise where it's like people are deciding if they're going to keep exploring, if they're going to be exclusive.

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Speaker 2: Like I feel like we're kind of in that window in this episode.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I I so just fast forward into the truth Fox real quick. People I guess were doubting the relationship like I was. I didn't put anything in that thing, but I guess people were talking about how it was just very safe, like they weren't really guess that into each other, which I don't know, you have to ask them, but I think people had in their mind that they weren't as serious as they may have been shown.

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Speaker 5: But you had to feel that a little bit for you to go take a shot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I feel like if they were super strong, you would have been like, there's just no chance there, right, Yeah, I caution to the way and like I don't even care.

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Speaker 4: I mean, like honestly, I was just chewing my shot at that point, I guess, but yeah, I think that I must have felt something the moment that there might they might not be as strong as people think, or yeah, it was one of those things where you know, I just took my shot.

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Speaker 5: That was great. I mean, listen, you gotta go. You gotta take your shots.

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Speaker 3: We were saying, Sean, we feel like you're the kind of guy that's like you don't want a gray answer, like you want a yes or no, and if you're not sure if she's into you, like when it comes to like if someone's like into your interested or not, like and I feel like you kind of threw it out there at the true circle and like you didn't get like a hard yes, hard no. And I feel like you were like looking in that conversation like do I have a chance with you or not?

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Speaker 4: I think that makes it easier just in relationship to general when it's pretty clear. But yeah, I would love to know, like where I stand with people. Obviously we found out I guess where I stood with her. I wish she would have told me a little bit clearer.

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Speaker 3: But how do you feel like the convo wet like at the end where you like, Okay, I'm glad I had that moving on, Like what was your feeling leaving the conversation?

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Speaker 4: I remember feeling leaving the conversation like what the fuck did we just talk about? Honestly, but I think it gave me clarity in one way. It wasn't necessarily with her words, but more with just like the feeling I had leaving there. So it was a helpful conversation for me. I don't know if we accomplished much, to be honest with you, I don't.

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Speaker 1: Know, but I mean, I mean essentially it leads to your demise because then we see everything that goes on with Rachel. So was that getting that clarity worth it? Or do you kind of wish you just want to just wait it?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think for me, truthfully, it was one of those things I had to figure that out, Like I had to go in and have that conversation. And at the end of the day, if me and Rachel weren't gonna like make it past that, we probably wouldn't have lasted and may have found some different people the next week. It was never for me, like I truly did want to find somebody, so like going into that conversation was very very helpful, like, hey, like, what are my options here? Who do I like? Who am I bodying with? And it was giving me a clarity one way or the other. But obviously I guess that conversation was the catalyst to mine and Rachel's demise.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well let's talk about that a little bit. So you're chatting with Jess, and we see Brandon go over to Rachel on the beach and he's kind of trying to suss out how serious the relationship is with you and her, if he's got a chance, if there's no opening, Like I feel like you kind of hit the domino effect of people now jumping ship, Like you've.

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Speaker 2: You've opened that door. You did you're the first person that did it.

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Speaker 3: You start, you started this train, So Braiden's now like, hmm, Sean's taken his shot, I'm gonna go take mine. And I don't know if he was, like if it was his move to bring this up, or if he was genuinely just trying to figure it out, but he basically says that you have been portraying it, that Rachel's really into you and you're not sure. That's what Brandon tells her, and that leads to a superheated conversation between you and Rachel, heated on her end, where she's like, Hey, what the hell is going on?

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Speaker 2: Can you just kind of walk us through what happened there?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I Uh, it was confusing, Like that whole thing was really confusing because I had talked to Rachel previously before going to jess kause, Hey, I want to have this conversation, like great conversation with her earlier on. I just wanted to see where things at and we had already talked about we're pretty open with that, and she was so understanding. She was great. So then I come back from that conversation and I have the conversation with Rachel, So I was like, wait, you just told me like hey, like go have that conversation, and now you're mad at me. I'm a little bit confused. I had no idea at that point that Braiden had kind of led that catalyst in there. So I'm like, all right, like what did Brayden say? Why? Like why is he betraying like that? Because I remember talking to Braiden and at this point, right, like me and Brayden didn't necessarily get along on the Bachelorette, but we were friends in Paradise, and like I really enjoyed spending time with him, and there was definitely a change in my opinion of him. And I remember sitting at night in the palapas like with him and Aaron asked, and like we were closed, right, And I remember talking about like, hey, like I really like hanging out with Rachel, like, but there's something that's just like holding me back from fully committing. So that's kind of how I was portraying it. And that's not necessarily that it was like, oh my god, like Rachel's way more into me than I am with her, and like I just want to stay here. It was more so that I was like I need to figure this out from my own internal perspective to figure out if I'm going to move on with Rachel or like figure out things with Jess. So to come back and kind of see Braden like put in a negative light, it was definitely I felt a little betrayed, felt a little hurt. It sucked like that that night in Paradise. Fuck, it sucks, man like it was it was not good.

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Speaker 1: No that that yeah, yeah that's fair.

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Speaker 2: That Yeah it looked like it sucks.

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Speaker 5: So you you.

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Speaker 1: Pull Braid into the side that you guys have a conversation.

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Speaker 5: And he he didn't really hide it. He basically told you I said this right, yeah, and how and then what? What was the conversation after that?

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Speaker 1: You guys just like we're not We're not cool? Are you? Like okay, like we're still friends? Like what's the deal?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I think so thinking back to that night, I remember like having to do all those interviews, right, and I was pissed, Like I was just furious. I felt like I had I didn't betrayed a little bit, but a guy who I was like just there for like really helping him out through the situation with Kat and like we had mended our relationship, and I was really enjoying spending time with him.

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Speaker 1: Do you then, like, do you do you also sorry to cut you off.

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Speaker 5: Do you feel that Kat played Braiden.

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Speaker 4: I don't think Cat play Braiden, And like, I think Kat is actually a really good person. I don't I think I don't think she played Braiden. I think that she was doing paradise, She was going in, had a relationship with flinging with Braiden, like felt great about at the time, went on a great day with Hannah, and like she was upfront and honest with Braiden throughout the entirety of the thing. So I don't think she necessarily played him. I think that people definitely thought that Cat plate Braiden, and from the outside looking in, you can make that assumption. Me personally, I don't think Kat plate Braiden.

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Speaker 5: Okay, keep going, what was the what do we ask?

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Speaker 4: We're on Braiden with a Braiden conversation right now?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So I remember still betrayed, and I went and after having all these interviews, which the one thing for people that watch the show, when you're getting told to do interviews in the middle of stuff like that, like it's super frustrating because You're like, I just I truly just wanted to figure out what the fuck was going on, Like I had no idea, Like my entire world on Parentis has just been shifted upside down no matter.

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Speaker 1: Like you're you're crumbling and you're getting pulled left and right to do in interviews and now you can't even fix what you kind of started and everything's falling apart.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I still never knew what Brayden said to Rachel. So the entire time, I'm like, what the fuck is this guy saying? Like I have no idea the whole this point?

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Speaker 3: At this point, do you just think that Rachel is mad at you for talking to Jess? Are you kind of putting the pieces together?

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Speaker 4: It was more so at first, like when we first had the conversation, I was like, you're mad at me for talking to Jess, Like I told you I was gonna go talk to her, Like I was very confused. And then she said that like Braiden was saying this, and I was like, oh my god, she's here we go. So then I was like, what is Brayden saying? Because I truly had no idea. So then I whole Braiden and I'm like, dude, like, well, what's going on? Because you before that he was just like I'm done with paradise, like I liked cat like we're dud, Like I'm when to go home with his robe semony will be good? Like no, man, like figure it out, stay like we want you here, like all the guys want you here, like don't don't quit yet? Little? Did I know that? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Little?

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Speaker 4: And I know that that was.

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Speaker 5: The bath all right? Does not sit back and do the math and who is there and who's not there?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I wish that in my mind. I was like, all right, if you're not gonna quit, go after like someone else's girl, like not not one of the boys from from Charity Seasons, like go after Peters or something like that, not not mineor aaron ESS's or anyone else's. But I was just trying to get some clarity from Brayden, and like he he wasn't denying it or like defending it anyway. He's like, dude, I'm sorry, like like I fucked you over and he felt bad about it like afterwards, like seeing my reaction, I was like, man, like we're boys, Like why would you do that to me? Like in any way, Like I'm I'm kind of a rider die friend in a way, so like I'm never gonna put any of my guys in a position that's gonna get them into trouble with definitely a member, definitely within paradise or even outside of it. Like I'm gonna protect my guys. So it hurt and he admit he's like, hey, man, I fucked you. So after that, there's nothing I could do, Like what am I just gonna harp on it and like just get be more upset with him. I was like, oh, man, like we're good now. He came up giving me a hug the next morning and I was like, ah, it just sucks, like it it sucked, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And then you're kind and at that point you're just like Rachel, me and you and Rachel are done at this point, Like there's no saving that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't think there was any saving that in that in that moment, I think there was almost right so before the truth Box, like we didn't have time during the day, so I was gonna go talk to her and try to smooth things over and just see where things are at. Did I think me and Rachel were gonna last outside of Paradise after that conversation. Absolutely not, but like, hey, like maybe someone was coming down those steps to maybe throw me a lifeline, or maybe I found someone else who knows. I didn't want to leave, like one thing was when you're in it, like I really did want to stay, so I was gonna spoit things over. And then obviously the truth box happened, and I was like, all right, well, I'm definitely not kidding Rachel's rose, so figure it out here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's let's talk about the truth box a little bit. So Aaron s smashes the box and you guys read everything inside.

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Speaker 2: Obviously what we see mostly is Braiden.

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Speaker 3: I guess put a bunch of Brayden and Rachel should make out notes in there, which was kind of funny, and then good move. But what else can you give us? Anything else? Actually, I do want to ask you something we did see. Someone wrote, what was it? Bro I don't think that Kat has Jess's best interest or something along the lines of, like, I don't think Kat is helping Jess in the way she thinks she is something like that, And I feel like we never really got full context onto what that was about.

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Speaker 2: Can you give us a little insight?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I will say, I'm gonna call it the entire cast here in the truth box. Like as soon as I think I put on the bar, everyone was running writing down notes and like I'm like, you guys just can't say this, like just say it out like that's how you feel. And I will say, I didn't write anything about anyone other than that, well, should probably stop stop pouring half shots at tequila. That's the only way I put in there for that one. Oh my god, Jesus, Yeah, so I was that was the only thing I wrote. I'm also the type of person where like if I had an opinion one way or the other, like I'll tell you like I didn't have an opinion on anything other than that. Like if I was gonna have a problem with like cat playing Jess or anything like that, I would have just told Kat, like, hey, you're probably being a shitty friend. But I don't think she was, Like I truly don't think she was being mean or if not doing just any favors by it by any way. And then all the relationships like Kylie and Nathan and Blake and Jess and like cat playing, Braid and I was like, you guys could just said that to people, like you didn't have to write it down in a note and then be anonymous with it, like just be up front.

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Speaker 1: Well everyone's I mean, it does honestly, everyone's playing it safe.

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Speaker 5: That's that that has been the issue.

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Speaker 1: But now we're starting to see all that crumbled.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got the truth circle, We've got the truth box.

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Speaker 3: You guys really need like a game to facilitate things to go on.

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Speaker 1: I want you, I want you to answer this honestly. Okay, if you were on if you were one of the guys on Rachel's season, how how far you think you would have went?

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Speaker 2: Oh, Joe, well, he had a.

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Speaker 5: Connection with her in Paradise and Bachelorette's a little different. You've you've experienced it, you experienced with Charity. You think you think you.

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Speaker 1: Would have went further with Rachel than with Charity than he did with Charity.

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Speaker 4: I don't think so. I don't think so. I think I think Rachel, Tyler Norris was there even was there. Yeah, honestly, I'm so grateful that I was on Charity season, like truly, like the whole it was like the best experience the guys were amazing. She was awesome. It would be tough for me to go back and put myself into like Rachel and Gaby season like the two Batchelor. So I was very grateful.

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 4: I think I was where I was supposed to be with the Charity season. I only would have made it any further, probably about the same spot. Maybe, who knows.

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Speaker 3: Okay, back to my question because I still want to know because I want the tea. What what did they mean by Kat isn't being a good friend to Jess?

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Speaker 4: So I guess that Tanner was high on Jess's list going into Paradise, but Tanner was also high in Kat's list, So you know when when Tanner asked Canada date, like, what do people expect her not to go on that date? If she wanted to meet Tanner? And I think that they had talked about that previously. I'm sure they had to. They're really close, So I don't know if people just like to get into other people's friendships. I guess and like say stuff, but I think Kat and Dress are great. I think they're still friends.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I feel like that probably didn't I mean and will work.

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Speaker 1: She was supposed to do anyways, because at the end of the day, Tanner talked to both of them and he chose yeah, say no, no, take Jesse even the life still like you like it was just that's just a complicated situation.

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Speaker 4: It would have been so stupid for Catnots except that date and also Tanner's like you said, Tanners booked to both of them and he chose.

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Speaker 3: Cat Yeah, he obviously had a better connection with her. I was just gonna say, is there anything else from the truth box that we didn't say?

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Speaker 4: I think they hit the nail on the head, But I wrote the well sh stop pooring half shots to kill it. I get credit for that, and that was the only thing that I put in that truth box.

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Speaker 2: So it will set the record straight. We will set that.

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Speaker 1: So now we see we basically see you and Aaroness sitting around kind of like we're fucked, and you you're vocalizing that you don't want to go home and again you're in this now. Is there any girl within Bachelor Nation that you're hoping comes down that you think you may have a chance with?

00:25:03
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say at that point, and just like knowing girls from past seasons, I would say I was probably hoping Dabya came down or literally, I think in the moment, I was just like anybody, just like let's figure it out, like just need something. I was so defeated. I remember like that night and by the way, I didn't sleep the night before, like at all, Like that shit with Braydon happened at like three in the morning, and you got to do interviews afterwards, and I went to bed and I was like, I can't sleep, my mind is racing. So I went out and I just chilled on the beach and watched the sunrise. I didn't know we had security on the beach at night, so I come out of the plapas, I'm like walking downstairs and then I just get hit in the face with flashlights and he speaking Spanish to me, and I'm like, oh my god, am I about to get teased or something. I was like, no, no, no, I'm on the cast. I'm on the cast. He was like okay, and then we just sat there. I didn't know what to say to him because I couldn't speak Spanish. So We're sitting there on the day bed and I'm just like looking at him. He's looking over we didn't talk. We just sat there for like thirty minutes, and I was like, all right, here we go.

00:26:04
Speaker 2: It's actually so funny. I didn't know we had security and at either Yeah.

00:26:09
Speaker 5: I had run into security.

00:26:12
Speaker 2: Really Oh my gosh, Yeah, we're.

00:26:14
Speaker 5: Protect it down there.

00:26:16
Speaker 1: Nice. Yeah, So I mean it kind of looks like that's it.

00:26:22
Speaker 5: Are are you?

00:26:24
Speaker 1: And Aaron asked basically just like yeah, we're making peace with it. We're going home, and what is Oh, what's the deal with John B and Aaron B. Is it kind of obvious that Eliza's gonna like who's Eliza gonna choose?

00:26:39
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they're coming with because we don't. Yeah, okay, so I think coming back from the date, I think she was gonna gonna choose Aaron B. I think that her and John had a great date and John John Be is one of my boys. Like it was great seeing like all those guys because I was the first time that I hadn't seen any of them since filming The Bachelorette, So me Aaron asked obviously to close Aaron B. But that was tough, right, Like John B and Aaron B are friends, So coming down with a date card and a lot of your guys from that season are already on the beach. It's tough to go and make a decision where you're like, man, like, do I really want to take Aaron's girl on a date? Like? Do I want to take Sean's girl on a day? Do I want to take Aaron as to girl? Like? That's a tough decision.

00:27:19
Speaker 2: Were you guys surprised she went on the date with John.

00:27:21
Speaker 1: B or No, I was.

00:27:24
Speaker 4: I was a little surprised as viewers.

00:27:27
Speaker 5: I mean I was, I was surprised.

00:27:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing against John B.

00:27:30
Speaker 3: We were just surprised because she seemed really said on Aaron B.

00:27:35
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think there's probably some reasons in her head, like why she went on that date with John B. And I think it was only meant to, Like, hey, like, if I go on this date and I'm still thinking about Aaron all the time, it means it means I'm meant to be with Aaron. And John Be is like an incredible dude too, so I'm sure they had a blast. But I was a little shocked in the moment. I was like, oh, okay, all right, here we go. This should be interesting coming back.

00:27:56
Speaker 3: But the love triangles are forming in Paradise this episode.

00:28:01
Speaker 4: I feel for I feel for Eliza too, because I know she didn't have like the best go of Paradise last time, so I definitely feel for her. And she's a she's a sweetheart like her. You guys have talked to he, right, her voice is, You're so sweet. She's like a Disney princess.

00:28:14
Speaker 2: So he is like a Disney princess.

00:28:17
Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, the problem, the problem with Paradise is, like I get it, like you you don't want to go after the same girl that your boys are going after, But at the end of the day, there's only so many people there.

00:28:31
Speaker 5: So like, in order for Paradise to work for you, you.

00:28:34
Speaker 1: Either have to have a connection right at the beginning and build on that, or you do have to be a little selfish like you you kind of like almost have to like be open with your friends, like, hey, like I might go after your girl at some point.

00:28:51
Speaker 2: I mean, look at Kenny.

00:28:52
Speaker 3: Kenny data like four different girls on our season and it worked out for him and he wasn't a like, he wasn't a jerk about it. He was just like, I'm exploring, That's what I'm here to do. I'm exploring my options until I find figure out which girl is the girl.

00:29:05
Speaker 1: Like, we don't know, Sean, we don't We don't know what happens with you because we do see in the teaser that a girl comes down, So maybe you get saved. But at this point, when everything's going down, you basically have you know, you've gotten no sleep, you're mostly it looks like you're going home. Do you wish you would have done anything differently?

00:29:29
Speaker 4: You probably? Yeah, I definitely, like I definitely could have done stuff differently throughout the entire time, maybe like exploring things with just a little bit further, maybe like went all into Rachel.

00:29:39
Speaker 1: But you know, do you think there was any any other girls there that you could have sparked something with.

00:29:45
Speaker 4: I think we had a great cast, Like I honestly think that they were all amazing, and I didn't really give give them the fair chance to like really see things through with anyone besides Jess and Rachel, which probably was to my detriment because there's a lot of great girls there, and I'm friends with a lot of them afterwards too, So I don't know. I mean, Mercedes was cool. I think maybe someone coming down, like Dobby, I think Greer was awesome too when she was on Paradise, So maybe if I would explore things with other people sooner. But at the end of the day, like I was there to find somebody and I had to figure it out for myself and I ended up probably shooting myself in the foot a little bit. But I was never there just to like, you know whatever, like skate through it and you know, leave single, Like there was never my intention with that, Like I did want to find somebody.

00:30:27
Speaker 5: So I don't think I think watching you on the show, like you.

00:30:32
Speaker 1: Like we joke around like hot Sean, but like you, you do come across as somebody that is there to find.

00:30:38
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, you come across as like you're you're taking it seriously. Like I feel like you definitely seem like you're genuinely looking for a relationship. And I feel like everyone that goes down to Paradise and navigates it differently, and there's no like right or wrong way to navigate it, and it's not easy to navigate either. And I think, you know, it's always interesting to see how people approach it, But I don't think you should ever leave like with regrets.

00:31:08
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I had fun, like I have so much fun when I'm when I'm filling these things, and like, I think this got a chance to let views in a little bit more of my personality, which I don't think this Saily was shown on the back. I like, I like to mess around and have fun, Like I don't take myself too seriously. I can laugh at myself, but I also was there to find someone. It was overall, like you know, it was an awesome experience regardless.

00:31:30
Speaker 3: So if you are single right now, I don't know if I should ask this, but if you are single right now, would you go back on Paradise.

00:31:40
Speaker 4: If I was single right now, or if.

00:31:43
Speaker 3: You're single when filming comes back around, let's say, let's put it like that.

00:31:48
Speaker 4: Yeah if yeah, I think I would, and like truly like looking back at the two experiences I've had, Like I've met some of the most some of my best friends from the show, everyone that works on the show, even from like the production side, the audio people, the camera guys, Like I do have a blast and have so much fun filming and it's just so different than when I do my day to day. So if I was single when Paradise came around, I think I would say yes to it, and I think I might navigate it a little bit differently than maybe I did this time.

00:32:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do think you're doing a great job though, like like, because it is important when you go on these shows not to take yourself too seriously, and I think you do a great job at that.

00:32:26
Speaker 4: Maybe stop the singing, I guess would probably be my number number one thing.

00:32:29
Speaker 5: So when did you what did you say?

00:32:31
Speaker 2: When did you say?

00:32:33
Speaker 4: Oh, my gosh, I was I was singing a Taylor Swift song in an interview? Oh yeah, so like it was style. So I remember doing I remember doing that. I was like, oh man, this is gonna be so funny, and like, I hopefully it came off as funny. I was just messing around. But two, uh was it? Two seasons now and and arguably two hit singles.

00:32:55
Speaker 2: So a lot of shot, a lot of shot out.

00:33:00
Speaker 5: Of who you said you met up some of your best friends on this show.

00:33:04
Speaker 1: What guys would you consider your best friends from the season?

00:33:08
Speaker 4: Yeah, Paradise, Aaron As is a Rider Eye friend, He's amazing, Aaron B. John B. Tanner, Like I had all my all my boys there, all the guys from Charity season for the most part, were like some of my best friends and then obviously like I'm really close with Joey, so I'm excited to see how the season turns out. But I had I had all my best friends that respond you're on a beach in Mexico, you're drinking with your boys, Like, can't really beat.

00:33:29
Speaker 1: It if you you aren't scared to shoot your shot. So is there if there's one girl in Bachelor Nation, here's your chance right now?

00:33:42
Speaker 5: Who would you try to talk to?

00:33:46
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I am I single, maybe I'm still on after if you hypothetically speaking, Oh my gosh, there's so many great, great girls out there. Oh man. I remember, like in the moment when I was like sitting on paradise waiting for hopefully someone comes down, I was thinking about, like maybe Gabby would be really cool to meet, but I think she's in a relationship, so I don't know. I'd have to go back, not.

00:34:14
Speaker 2: That Shrette Gabby, Gabby from Zach season.

00:34:17
Speaker 4: Gabby from Zax season. That would be a little bit too much like Gabby from Rachel's season coming down. But yeah, I think I think Gabby is from Zax season. I thought that she was super cute. I thought she was really great on the show. But there's a lot of a lot of great people out there in Bachlination. I think Brady Galvin's pretty cool too from what I've heard.

00:34:33
Speaker 5: So nice. Keep going with Sean.

00:34:39
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for coming. Sean. You're always a great interview.

00:34:43
Speaker 3: We're happy to have you here and we are excited to see what happens with you next week on Paradise. Fingers crossed for you, Rose appears at a thin air or a girl or something something.

00:34:56
Speaker 4: I appreciate you, I'll have me on. It was great to great to talk with you, of course.

00:34:59
Speaker 1: Thank you, Sean, and thank you to all of our listeners for tuning in. And remember all new episodes of Bachelor and Paradise here every Thursday on ABC at nine eighth Central following the Golden Bachelor, or you could stream both shows the next day.

00:35:12
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00:35:22
Speaker 5: Bye bye,