#277: Comfort Rewatch - The Family Stone

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Elsie:

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You're listening to The Beautiful Mess Podcast. This week we're doing a Comfort rewatch episode for a

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holiday movie. We love The Family Stone. From 2005, we're dedicating this episode to Diane Keaton.

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Rest in Peace, our Queen, the Queen. And I'm also sharing at the end an embarrassing story, Christmas

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themed. That is actually pretty embarrassing. It's so funny. It's bad. I had to ask permission to share this

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one. So that's how, that's the level we're at. It's very funny. I obtained that permission though. So for

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people who have never seen The Family Stone, this is an oldie but a goodie. It's a little bit of, I would put

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it in the category of an emo Christmas movie, a Christmas movie that makes you cry. Kind of along the

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lines of love, actually. Same. Different. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's a romantic comedy at its core, and it

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definitely has a lot of comedy, but it definitely has hits you with the feels here and there. I cried. I cried.

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Oh yeah. And we'll give also at the end, our husbands, were kind of roasting it.

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Emma:

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I am going to kind of roast parts of it too.

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Elsie:

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Yeah. So would you prefer to read the premise or just wing it out of your mind?

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Emma:

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I guess Wing it. I don't know.

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Elsie:

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Give it to us, Emma.

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Emma:

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Okay. So this is the love story. It's a couple that I think is engaged. No, they're preen engaged. Okay. Yeah,

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they're preg engaged. And Everett Stone, and then Sarah Jessica Parker is Meredith Morton, and he's

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taking her home to his family to meet them for the first time. She's met one sister. He has a pretty big

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family, but she hasn't met anyone else. And the sister already doesn't like her. And so she's kind of telling

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the family, this lady's not cool. We're not going to like her. And his family is, I feel like what they were

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going for was that. It's kind of what you're saying in your description where they're ultra liberal and very

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chill and really always in their pajamas, very cozy, bohemian kind of bohemian, which didn't totally play

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for me at times, but they're very mean. There's parts where they're like, they're very mean. They're just

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straight bullying. Yeah. Yeah. There's something about it where maybe it aged weird or maybe it just

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didn't quite, it's like no one's that mean to someone bringing home someone for the first time a little bit.

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The story is kind of fish out of water where she's just supposed to be very different from them. She's

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much more closed off and formal and probably conservative. She doesn't want to sleep in her

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boyfriend's bedroom. She wants to have her own bedroom. She feels that that's weird at his parents'

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house, even though they do, they have had sex. They're adults in a relationship. She kind of embarrasses

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herself at every turn to the point where she calls her sister to come because she just feels like she's kind

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of drowning, I think, socially. And so her sister comes to help out, but then her boyfriend kind of falls for

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the sister, and she kind of falls for the brother. And we find out the mom, this is a big spoiler buzz from

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there. This is old movie. The mom has cancer, and it's back. It's her last Christmas. It's her last Christmas.

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And I feel like that's all the big things. And then, yeah, I think that they both end up with those brothers.

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They do. They swap, they do all swap a roof.

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Elsie:

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They have kind of an epilogue at the end, and they show the next Christmas a year later that they're,

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anyway, I will just say if we're starting out with a hot take, I would switch to Luke Wilson as well. I true

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have loved Luke Wilson for as long as I've known him. Yeah. Luke Wilson plays one of the brothers, and

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he's very, Luke Wilson. Jeremy was like, I see how they tried to make him look bad, but you cannot make

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him look bad. Nice. He's just such a beautiful person. So yeah.

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Emma:

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Oh yeah. They tried to make him look kind of sloppy. Sloppy, but you're like, nah, I can see right through.

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He just wearing pajama pants. It's not a big deal. You just put on regular pants. It's fine.

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Elsie:

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Yep. So should we do, let's start with, do you remember the first time you watched the film?

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Emma:

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I don't. I have the worst memory ever. I know I've seen it I think a couple times, but I really don't

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remember. I was trying to picture what living room I was in, but no, I don't remember. So I don't even

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know how long it's been.

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Elsie:

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This is my moment of transformation. This is like, you know how in stories, they show a person how they

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see their home and then later on they show them going back to it and they see it different. So that

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movie is that for me. So when it came out in 2005, it was at the time when I was being a professional

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scrapbooker my first career, and I flew every weekend, and this is at a time, you guys are not going to

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believe this if you are a little bit younger than us, but this was during a time when they still had movies

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on every single flight, and they served full meals on every single flight. It was the very end of it though.

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They stopped doing it a few years after that. But you could go on a flight, a short flight, and they would

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serve you a meal, and you would always, always have movies that were free. It was just a different time

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for air travel, I think. I don't know when it switched around 2010 or, anyway, if you're not on an

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international flight, you're not going to watch a movie. So anyway, so I watched this movie 10 times in a

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row that year because I flew every weekend and it was on every flight for some reason. So maybe it was

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2006, I don't know. And I didn't like it. I thought it was so sad and such a downer. And why'd you keep

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watching it? I dunno. I don't know. I guess, I don't know. I can't explain myself, but let's just say I was 25

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or 24 or 23, and let's give her a free pass. And I just had this love. I guess I might've had a love hate for it.

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I was watching it, but I definitely hated it. And I was mad about how sad and what a downer it was. And I

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think it's because a lot of movies from that time, this was the romantic comedy era, and a lot of movies

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from that time end really happy. So maybe it was that. But yeah, I just got kind of a little bit of a, was

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mad at it all the time, but I did like it. I kept watching it, and then years later I rediscovered it when we

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started the podcast and we were talking about movie houses all the time, and I was like, oh yeah, that

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one house. And it's mostly the snow exterior scenes. Jeremy at one point he was like, Hey, that kind of

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looks like our house. And I was like, you have never listened to our podcast. Everyone knows that,

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Jeremy. But anyway, I do love when my husband says something and I'm like, oh, you really don't listen

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to my podcast? No way. They don't. Yeah, I already knew. But it's just sometimes you're like, yeah, sure.

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So anyway, I rewatched it, I think a couple of years ago when we were starting our cozy movie obsession.

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And at that point I was like, oh, this is a beautiful story. And I actually hate different things about it now,

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but the things about it that bugged me now is kind of the love story swap and stuff is the things that I

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thought were probably good back then. So I think that's really interesting how you can watch movies at

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different times in your lives. Please send us yours if you have, I know some of you're thinking of them

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right now and just see it so differently. Completely different experience.

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Emma:

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Yeah, I don't remember the first one. I watched this, but I definitely think I liked it more before slash sell

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with the love story or I don't know, different elements. And now I'm like, I don't know. I still like it. I like

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the movie. There's definitely really sweet parts and parts that make you cry.

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Elsie:

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I don't think it's romantic to fall in love in one day anymore. I don't, no. So I don't think that's cute. I like

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it when she goes for Luke Wilson though, because I feel like they had a true moment of connection. The

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other couple, I feel like they had no true moment of connection.

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Emma:

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No, no, definitely not. They're just trying to make that one work for the movie. So you don't feel sorry for

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him. Yeah. But it's like, no, man, this does not work, the chemistry is off. Okay. So maybe we should talk

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about, before we roast the story anymore, which I'm sure we will, it'll come up. But let's talk about cozy

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interiors. We talked a little about exterior.

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Elsie:

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Yeah, the exterior in the snow. It is probably one of the reasons why I bought my house. It kind of looks,

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it has, your house has a movie house that, look, I love those snow scenes, but I think the inside of the

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house, it has its highes and lows.

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Emma:

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Yeah, it does.

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Elsie:

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There's some really gorgeous scenes I really like. There's the scene when she's in the bedroom, when

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you see this picture on her wall, see if anyone can catch this when you watch it where she is pushing a

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stroller and she has a bunch of kids behind her holding hands. And it's sort of a silhouette photograph.

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That's gorgeous. I really like, obviously the front room with the Christmas tree. I really like the entryway

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and all the wallpaper.

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Emma:

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I like the kitchen. You don't like it?

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Elsie:

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No. The kitchen too open. No, it's so cluttered. It makes me kind sick. It gives me the feeling of one of

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our grandmas had a very cluttered house growing up, and it gives me this, it's not a bad feeling, but it's a

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little bit of a sick feeling for me. I guess it's bad way.

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Emma:

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It's a little overwhelming.

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Elsie:

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Yeah, overwhelming. I can see that it's cozy, but I also don't want to be there.

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Emma:

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Yeah. Yes. And I agree. I like the kitchen. I like the way the hood is designed and the openness of it, and

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they're in there. A lot of conversations and scenes happen in the kitchen. The orange computer. The

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orange computer is very, make me think of Zoolander. Just it's that computer era. Yes. I think the set

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designers did a great job of making it feel like a lived-in home with an actual family. And a lot of people,

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it is very cluttered and feels very real in that sense, but it is also a little bit overwhelming at times where

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there's a couple scenes where they open the fridge and I felt so overwhelmed. I was like, we need to

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send the home edit in there immediately. This fridge is freaking me out, and I'm not even a perfectly

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organized fridge person, but it's just so, I feel like they did a good job in that it felt like a real family's

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home and they're really having a bunch of family home for Christmas, and everyone's just crammed in.

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Elsie:

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When they're up in the attic. I'm like, that roof definitely leaks. There's just a feeling of unsettledness in

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certain areas of the home. It makes it feel very much like a real home.

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Emma:

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Yeah, it does.

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Elsie:

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But yeah, I mean, there are beautiful shots. Do you remember the entryway with the wallpaper?

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Emma:

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Yes.

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Elsie:

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There's moments where you're like, this is a movie house. But I like how they make it also a real house

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because real holiday houses are cluttered. I love my house more. I'm so proud of it, but it's so cluttered

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at Christmas time. It just is. You can't not make it cluttered. The only way is to have a junk room, a

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graveyard junk room where you constantly take stuff to because it's just, there's so much stuff and

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people coming in and boots and coats and more presents. And then when the kids open their presents,

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good luck with that. You know what I mean? So I think that you should portray a house at Christmas as a

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little bit chaotic, claustrophobic, because that's true in the kitchen. It's like, yeah, you're prepping five

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meals at a time.

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Emma:

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Yes. And there's snacks and everyone brings things. It just overflows very quickly, very easily. Yeah. Okay.

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Favorite moments? I have a lot of favorite moments from this movie. Do you want to say yours? Okay. So

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my favorite storyline, there's quite a few love stories in, as we already mentioned, the brother swapping

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that whole thing. But I really like the sister who doesn't like her initially, who's played by Rachel

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McAdams. She has, in the very beginning, they're talking about this ex-boyfriend of hers who was her

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first time. So the first person she ever had sex with. And her mom's kind of roasting her about it a little

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bit, like you should call him up. He's an EMT or a firefighter. And he clearly got a taste of something he

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wants or some line like that. And Rachel McAdams character's just like mom don't. Anyway, they run into

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him in a bar and she invites him, not Rachel McAdams, but Meredith the sister that nobody likes, or the

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girlfriend that nobody likes. So invites him to Christmas and he shows up and him and Rachel McAdams

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do end up getting together and it's really sweet. And I just love that storyline. I just love his character.

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He's just like in the bar. Oh. And she's like, you should come. I think she still holds a candle for you or

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whatever. And he's like, really? And he shows up with a present and kind of has to sit through this very

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chaotic scene. And he just seemed like, I just love him and I just love his little love story there. I think it's

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really charming. So I love that. Comedy wise. I like when the sister has the engagement ring on her finger

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and can't get it off, and everyone keeps coming in the kitchen and trying to help get it off. They put oil

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and butter. I think it's still a very funny scene. And it's just funny. And if you've ever gotten a ring stuck on

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your finger before, the feeling of panic of like claustrophobia of, I can't get this thing off my body. I hate

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that feeling. And then everyone's trying to help you, and then it carries this level of emotional weirdness

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because it's your sister's engagement ring, and it's just this weird moment. So I think comedy wise, that's

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pretty funny. And I mean, the most emotional moment is, I think for me, at the end of the movie when

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Diane Keaton's character and the dad are in their bed at night talking, they have a number of scenes

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where they're in their bed at night talking kind of decompressing. That's beautiful. At the end of the day,

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which really resonates to me as someone who's in a long-term relationship. And they show they're about

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to make love, I think, and they show her kind of unbuttoning, her shirt, and you see her scars from a

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mastectomy, how do you say it? The surgery where they for breast cancer. And we know that they've

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already told us in the movie that she has cancers back. They didn't really say what kind, but from this

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scene, you know what kind. And it's just this very sweet scene of them together and loving each other

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through the beginning of her death. And yeah, it's just a really heartfelt, beautiful, beautiful scene that's

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hard to watch, but also you can't look away because it's beautiful. And it was Diane Keaton. We know

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Diane Keaton passed this past year, which is part of why we wanted to do this rewatch because we love

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Diane Keaton, all of her movies.

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Elsie:

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But yeah, so yeah, everything Diane Keaton never did. Starting from The Godfather all the way to, I

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guess, I don't know what the, I'm not sure what her very last movie was, recent movies would be, but for

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me it would be all the way to these movies like the Nancy Myers era and honestly the Justin Bieber

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music video. I love that Justin Bieber's an icon music video. I'm glad she did that. I think she was a very

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cool person, a very interesting person. And anyway, I would like to, yeah, I'm going to keep watching her

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movies for the rest of my life, but I'm glad we got to do this one. Yeah, I did not know she was ill and I

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was not preparing myself for that, so it was a sad one. Anyway. Okay, so favorite moments from the

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movie? I love the scene. I love the scene in the bar when she gets drunk and is being herself for the first

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time. And then the other, I don't know what the Luke Wilson character's name is, so I just keep calling

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him. Luke Wilson. Do you remember his? It's okay. No. Okay. We'll just call him Luke Wilson guy. So Luke

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Wilson guy is like, he's really seeing her and accepting her as a full person. That really worked for me.

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And then when she falls asleep on his shoulder in the car, that worked for me, I got how they got

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together and I thought it was cute. And it's like she actually needed, I relate with this because my

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husband is very, very, very opposite energy from me. And sometimes people need someone who's just

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the absolute opposite of them, and that's what works for them as a couple. And if you're a nervous

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person, you don't need another nervous person, you know what I mean? You need someone who's just

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so chill. And so that kind of works for me. There's an opposites thing. I really like how the opening scene

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Diane Keaton looking at the Christmas tree mirrors the ending scene with Amy at the Christmas tree, and

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she has the ring, and that is, I think, just really beautiful. I really like, this isn't our trivia, but there's

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something interesting about the Judy Garland scene. I really like the Judy Garland scene and I actually, its

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watching a movie. Yeah, it's Meet Me in St. Louis, and I watched it I think last year or the year before

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because of this movie. I was like, I want to watch that whole movie. And honestly, I feel like it's more

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meaningful for me to just watch. It's just the song is really, I wasn't obsessed with the movie as much as

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that one song performance is definitely the moment, and then it just goes really well in this movie. It's

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incredible. And what else? I like the part where she spills the eggs, the egg funny on the floor. That's

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funny because that felt very real to me. That disgusting looking casserole. That is the Midwest and that is

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our ESA or something that's ours, our childhood. It's like there's always going to be a casserole like that

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at our type of Christmases. Yeah, I always make it. Why are you? Well, it looks disgusting when it's spills.

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I'm sorry, but I mean, it's like a billion eggs in a casserole dish. Yeah. What's not to love? I caught, I don't

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know. I just know how that thing smells in the fridge. I just do

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Emma:

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All right.

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Elsie:

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But I love them. I eat them. It's fine. They're good. They're good when they're cooked. Once they're

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cooked.

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Emma:

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Can't see me, but I'm making the Muppet angry face right now. I'm upset chest steam coming out of her

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ears. Yeah, when you get a hate mail later from me.

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Elsie:

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Okay. Yeah. I think that's all my favorite moments. Yeah, I think it's a very beautiful, and then there's

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some very insufferable moments, and I do think that they take the family being insufferable a little bit

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too hard. Some of the next one I had under this is Cringe Fest. At what moment did you cringe the

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hardest? There's definitely some cringing to be done in this plot.

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Emma:

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Yeah. I really feel like out of the gate pretty quickly. I was like, oh, they're just going to be really mean to

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her. They're just really mean to her. They're never even pretending to be nice, fake nice. Which I think it's

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setting, they're in Connecticut, but I'm like, go on Connecticut. People email us. You guys are nice too.

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Right. It's not just the Midwest that's fake. Nice. We are maybe the kings and queens of fake Nice. I don't

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know, but we'll keep it going all night. Yeah. We'll never tell you. It'll be decades before we're like, I really

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didn't care for it the first time I met you that you don't even know what we pressed Felix looked like till

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you come to the Midwest. But anyway, yeah, they're really, really, really mean to her just over and over

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again. But then she does quite a few things where you're like, girl, just help yourself out a little bit. So

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yeah, she needs to take a minute several times and she doesn't. And she doesn't. Yeah. I think the one

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that I found the most unbelievable, it wasn't necessarily the most cringey, but the most unbelievable,

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was when she doesn't know that her boyfriend's allergic to mushrooms. And then she's picking the

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mushrooms out of the casserole, and I'm like, number one, that's not going to work. You're going to miss

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one. She's not a chef. Everything's mixed chef. It's not going to work, girl, you've missed it. You've got to

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tell him not to eat that now if he's truly allergic to mushrooms. But also, it's just unbelievable. I was like,

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you guys have never eaten together because I can understand she doesn't cook. She works.

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Elsie:

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I actually like that detail. I actually believe it because I believe they met that previous year before and

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they haven't been in this situation yet. And this could be even their first Christmas together.

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Emma:

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But they don't eat at restaurants together. He's never in front of her been like, does that have

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mushrooms in it? I'm actually allergic.

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Elsie:

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You're probably right.

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Emma:

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Cause mushrooms are in a lot of things. So I just feel like if I something, I think it was trying to show you

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how new the relationship was and it was very new though. Yeah. But still, the reason it's called The

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Family Stone is because the whole time he's kind of asking his mother for her mom's engagement ring,

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the family stone. He wants to give it to Meredith and the mom's like, no, maybe ask me tomorrow. I

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dunno. I don't think so. Which again, I'm kind of like, wow, this is not against Thank King. We just

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mentioned we love her, but this character, I'm like, I don't really know about that. That feels, I think

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voicing if you don't want your kid to marry someone. Yeah. You got to be honest voicing that. But to not

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give them the stone when it's like She does eventually though. Yeah, she does. Eventually she does come

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around to it and gives it to him, but he's already bought this other thing, so it's like, I don't know.

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Anyway. Okay. What are your cringe best?

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Elsie:

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No, for me, the part where I cringe the hardest is just I really don't like it when he goes for the sister. He

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has known her for one day. They show them walking downtown. They're basically on their first

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conversation and they're falling in love. And for me, that's a zero. I feel nothing. The conversation is kind

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of dumb too. It's about some artist she heard about. I don't even think she knows them, and they

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wanted to make a totem pole, and they do. It's like some historical site you can go see, and he's like, oh, I

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want to go there. And he is like, okay. Yeah. It's kind of weird story too. It's like, all right. I mean, no, give

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me getting drunk together over that. I just didn't, I felt nothing, but I also, I believe you. But it's fine. But

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it's fine. I mean, I like the moment where the bus pulls away. I like the running towards each other as a

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shot, but I just think that they didn't, in the script, they didn't give you enough to, I think they could have

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given you three breadcrumbs of weird things they had in common, or just connecting points or she's like,

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oh, I don't like that, but my sister loves it before she gets there. Things like that. And then you would've

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been like, okay, it clicks. Why didn't you just click those logos together a little bit better? They didn't even

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try anyway. They were just like, let's just shove it together right now. But yeah, both of our husbands,

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that was kind of like the Can't Let it go was just the love swap was just too clean. And it's also just weird

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for two people in the same day to swap partners and fall in love. It's just too much. Yeah. Yeah. It's like,

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no, but I do love a weird affair within a family setting though.

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Emma:

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Yeah. That's cool. When the dad opens Luke Wilson's door and she's in the bed and she rolls out, she's

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like, oh. And he's just like, his eyebrow shoot up and then he doesn't say anything, but he just looks at

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her when she comes down the stairs. You know what you did and you're going to need to say something,

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and it's very funny.

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Elsie:

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Yep. No, but yeah, we're roasting it a little bit, but I also think that that is the nature of this movie. I hope

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you can see that we truly do love it. I think it deserves its roasting, but I also think it is a beautiful, I

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mean, I cried. I genuinely cry every single time.

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Emma:

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Yeah, it's gorgeous. Oh yeah, it's great. And I think that getting that real family dynamic feeling with 10

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actors is a lot, and they do achieve it throughout the movie. It does feel like a family most of the time.

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Yeah, it's really good. Yeah, we haven't even mentioned it either. And this will come up in the trivia, but

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one of the brothers is deaf, so a lot of times they're doing a SL or one person's kind of interpreting, And

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he also is gay and his husband's there, and that's really cute too. His husband, by the way, is gorgeous.

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Yeah, he's beautiful. The whole movie, that's what my husband was hearing was I was like, boy, that

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guy's husband, I bet they weren't mean to him when he showed up. I bet they were like, here's the

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family stone. Get married to him right away.

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Elsie:

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He's like, no, he says that Amy was mean to him, which I appreciated that. I appreciated that one person

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was nice to Meredith and gave her an olive branch, and it was like another outsider person because

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maybe just coming into a family that is just not easy for anyone, and that's good.

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Emma:

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I think big families can have a very hard to understand dynamic. So it's like a lot to learn quickly. And if

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you're not from a large family, then it's definitely even more because you're not used to that type of

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thing.

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Elsie:

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Yeah. Okay, so let's do trivia.

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Emma:

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The director put the nine cast members playing the Stones through several weeks of rehearsals so that

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they would bond well enough off camera to convincingly portray a family. Since the script called for a

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characters to use American Sign Language, A SL to communicate with or interpret for Thad's character,

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early rehearsals included a crash course and a SL, the cast members and some critics pointed out that

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their A SL use was subpar, but it was a realistic portrayal of a hearing family's use of a SL, which is often

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not great. That makes sense to me.

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Elsie:

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I like that. I actually think that when people are really not an interpreter who's to the side of a stage, but

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when you see people professional in real life using ASL, they will be very fast and seem like they're not

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trying very hard. It's two different things, and I think the way they acted it was probably true to life.

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Emma:

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I don't know, American sign language, so I really have no, but a lot of times when I see people

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interpreting or if there's, it's almost like they feel like the non-hearing person can read lips and read

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American language. So it's like they're doing kind of both. And in a way it makes me think they're

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skipping words and just doing the main words in ASL. But again, I don't speak American sign language. I

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don't know it, so I wouldn't know. That would be the thing I would be most nervous about. If I had to be

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an actor in this movie though, I would be like, oh my gosh, I'm going to get this wrong. I'm going to do it

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slightly wrong, and it's going to mean something completely different. I just learned this and it's how am

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I going to do it? So yeah, that would be nerve wracking.

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Elsie:

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During the film's Christmas Eve montage as Thad and Patrick Stroll hand in hand toward the end, Patrick

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signs in American Sign language that the evening sky looks beautiful, to which tha responds, know You

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are beautiful. That's cute. I'm glad they put that in. Yeah, I would have mixed that completely.

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Emma:

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That's romance for you. Okay. When Luke Wilson is telling Meredith about Everett's allergy.

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Elsie:

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See they call him, Luke Wilson too.

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Emma:

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They call Luke Wilson too. Because Meredith is Sarah Jessica Parker, and then you say both. Okay. Alright.

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When Luke Wilson is telling Meredith about Everett's allergy, Sarah Jessica Parker shouted, I didn't know.

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In a one take as a joke, and you can tell as Luke Wilson genuinely laughs. That's cute. Yeah, that's funny.

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Elsie:

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That's good. That's good. Yeah, you can tell there was definitely some like, what do you call it, Adlib,

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what actors call it?

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Emma:

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Improv.

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Elsie:

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Improv. And I like that. I like that kind of stuff. That's cute. I like to hear it later. I mean, you can't always

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tell. It's fun to know.

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Emma:

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I did think Sarah Jessica Parker really did a great job in this movie too. Oh yeah. Because she seems very

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nervous and anxious, but also at times likable and at other times you're just cringing and she has a big

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arc. Her character changes quite a bit and she does that great in my opinion. So I feel like she really

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chews it up.

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Elsie:

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She tries to get in the bed in the egg shirt, she goes there for this role. I personally never watch Sex in the

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City, and obviously I know that she's from that, that's what she's best known for. But I know her from

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this, so this is how she's famous to me.

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Emma:

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I know her from her movies too. I never watch sex. It looks awesome. I feel like I just missed it. It's kind

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of like Gilmore Girls. I'm like, I keep meaning to go back and watch it. I know it's great, but I missed it the

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first time around. And so it's just one of those things where you're like, wow, okay.

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Elsie:

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Yeah, I don't think I can go back that far. I dunno. Maybe it becomes more retro over time. I dunno. Tell

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us if anyone has watched Sex in the City in the last couple of years for the first time, if you think it's

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doable or if you think it's too late. I'm curious. Okay. Playing the glue that holds the family together.

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Diane Keaton was the first actor approached to Star in the film. Duh. Keaton has stated that she was

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instantly drawn to her role as many layers of Sybil's personality allow her to explore so many often

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conflicting emotions. Yeah, that's a beautiful part about it. You can feel the love. You can feel the grief

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and sorrow. You can feel the petty bullsh*t. Every layer is perfect.

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Emma:

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She seems very real in the movie. She definitely has moments where she's very warm and loving and

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easygoing, and there's other times she's kind of harsh or a little bit mean, but you do always believe her.

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It does feel very real like a real person. Okay. The composer, Michael Giacchino rerecorded the

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Instrumental Track, have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas as it appeared in Meet Me in St. Louis from

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1944, duplicating every note and matching every tempo of the original orchestra, which he then

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programmed simultaneously to enhance Judy Garland's vocals. Both tracks appear on the film's

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soundtrack album, allowing the listener to appreciate how closely the new recording matches the

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vintage one.

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Elsie:

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Interesting. So are they saying that in the movie it's an acapella performance and then they kind of

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changed it for this movie?

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Emma:

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I don't exactly know what this is saying. I'm not musical enough, but it's making me think that if they had

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just taken the movie audio, it would've not sounded very good for the standards of this movie. So he had

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to fix it up. Yeah. Well, it really is a moment in the film.

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Elsie:

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I think they did it perfectly, and I love watching it every single time. I love how she says it's my favorite

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part. It feels like that feeling like she does this every year. It's really special. Okay. Luke Wilson chipped a

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tooth while filming the movie and asked Diane Keaton to recommend a dentist. Keaton decided to play a

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joke on him when he called the number she had given him, it was actually the number to a psychologist

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Emma:

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Okay. That's funny. All right. She got him. I wonder if he just went ahead and made an appointment for

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that too. I'd be like, well, okay. Rachel McAdams said that she felt drawn to the dramatic arc that Amy

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goes through, which eventually brings her full circle. She sees herself as honest, not mean, and expresses

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that uncensored candor in her sardonic wit. No, she's mean, she's mean. She's definitely, she's mean for

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sure. Mean she can be also honest. And I also think she does come around, which to me matters more

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than if you're mean. It's like if you're kind of mean and then you're willing to say sorry or take it back. It's

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like, yeah, maybe be more thoughtful out of the gate, but I still think that's fine. That's totally fine.

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Someone who's mean and never backs down. I'm like, eh.

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Elsie:

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I think the scene where they're on the floor with the egg is the turning point in their relationship. They're

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all laughing together and it's really sweet and it's disgusting and it's perfect. And I believe that she gave

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her another chance after that. And they don't even really have to tell you that. You just know.

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Emma:

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Yeah. You feel it.

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Elsie:

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But she's mean. She is mean. Let's get our facts straight. Cast amid the final season of the HBO series,

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sex and the City, Sarah Jessica Parker, who had struggled to find a role that distinguished her from her TV

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show character, Carrie Bradshaw declared Meredith a breakaway from her previous roles. She is

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controlling rigid and tightly round. When she tries to dig herself out of awkward moments, she only

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makes them worse. True. I think that she did a great job of choosing this role and I mean, I'd never

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watched Sex in the City, but yeah, great move. You did it.

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Emma:

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Yep. She was like, I got. And we're like, yep. Did great. Patrick shows some sympathy to Meredith hinting

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that the Stones gave him a hard time as well. So you talked about that. No, he says Amy, she's the worst.

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Amy gave him a hard time. Yeah, you're the worst. And they fall down with the eggs. Yep.

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Elsie:

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Yeah. Rachel McAdams worked with both Wilson Brothers in two different movies at the same time. This

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movie with Luke Wilson and also Wedding Crashers 2006 with Owen Wilson. I've never seen Wedding

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Crashers. Is that funny? Is it cute?

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Emma:

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I watched it a long time ago and I think I liked it. I can't remember. What's the tall guy? Oh, Vince

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Vaughn. Yeah. Vince V, yep. Has him in it as well. Yeah, I think I thought it was funny in a long time.

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Elsie:

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Cool.

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Emma:

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It was released in the United States on December 16th, 2005, and was a commercial success with a

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worldwide gross of 92 million. Whoa. I don't know, movie money. I don't know how good that is, but that

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sounds good for a movie like this probably. I dunno if they spin on it, but it's sounding good.

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Elsie:

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I feel like. Okay. I'm not a Hollywood expert, but let me give my hot take. Why wouldn't you just do

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Christmas movies all the time? Oh, yeah. They come back every year and Halloween movies too. Why? If

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you have a chance to do any kind of movie, why wouldn't you do a Christmas and a Halloween movie?

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Emma:

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And this is my beef with Why there's not enough Halloween songs. What's up with that? There are there

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so many Christmas songs and I love them. I love them. Where are the Halloween songs? It comes back

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every year. Yeah. Wouldn't this be a good idea? I don't know, but okay. Yeah, you're right. It's just a

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playlist. This is really not the right time for this grievance, but yeah, it's not.

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Elsie:

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Okay. Diane Keaton also played The Matriarch in Love the Coopers 2015. Okay. My Eyelash Girl told me

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this is amazing. Love the Coopers. It has at homes in it, and it's a same similar type of movie, so we

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should probably watch that this year. I've never seen that. A Christmas movie about a very dysfunctional

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family. Oh yeah, let's watch that. Yeah, I looked up to IMDB earlier and it looked like it had a lot of cute

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people and yeah, let's watch it together. That's our next movie.

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Emma:

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Diane Keaton and Sarah Jessica Parker. Were both in the First Wives Club. Cool. My husband talks about

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that movie all the time. I feel like it was one of his movies that he watched over and over as a kid.

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Somehow he has a lot of movies like that.

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Elsie:

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That's really funny. I've never seen it. And I don't know.

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Emma:

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I feel like his family had cable and it really shows compared to our family where I'm like, we had four VHS

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tapes and they were great.

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Elsie:

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Have you ever heard of the Never Ending Story?

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Emma:

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Have you ever heard of Sister Act? Sister Act two, Rookie of the Year, Little Giants. Never heard of

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anything else. No, I'm just kidding.

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Elsie:

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Okay. I guess it's time for my embarrassing story now. Here we go. With permission from my husband. I

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do have to tell his perspective to make things fair because otherwise it might seem like I'm roasting him,

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but not, I think you're roasting yourself. I think I'm roasting myself.

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Emma:

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Yeah. Okay. That's who I view as at fault in this story. Spoilers.

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Elsie:

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Okay, so this is three years ago on Christmas night. I'm not going to go into it, but let's just say that every

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year on Christmas night, I tend to be a little bit emotionally exhausted and how kids throw a fit.

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Emma:

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Adults are like that too. We get tired, we get hungry. We've had too much stimulation. We get it. Yeah, it

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happens.

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Elsie:

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I wasn't like this before I became a mom, but I have noticed that since I'm a mom and especially in these

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really intense Christmas magic years that I do kind of need to have a little breakdown after every

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Christmas the week after, I will say it comes at a really good time when it's that boring slow week when

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you can read day all day and you can watch movies and you can eat and you don't really have to do

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anything else. I love that. I love that for us, for all of us. So anyway, this year after Christmas, I think it

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was the last year we were in the pink house, so it was probably three Christmases ago or so. We came

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home, our kids were in bed, Christmas was over, and I was just talking to Jeremy. We had just come

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home from his parents' Christmas celebration and I said this little comment about his, okay, so his dad

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makes Chex Mix and Chex Mix is a big deal in our whole family. It's like, if you guys know, I've talked

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about my Chex mix a million times. My father-in-law has Chex Mix too. We all do, but we call it Texas

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Trash from Texas. Interesting. And that's what he calls it. It can go by different names and everyone has

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their specific little variation. So in mine, I have sesame sticks. The Sesame sticks are a really big deal to

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me. I love Sesame Sticks and I do, there's two things I hate in Chex Mix, and I put them in for my husband

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to be nice that he likes, but I don't like them. You know what I mean? And then I put in, there's two

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things that he doesn't like as much that I put in that I like. You know what I mean? And it's like whatever.

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Everyone has their own perfect Chex Mix recipe, and they're all a little bit different. So I make it every

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year. I've been doing it since before we had kids. So I would say 10 years. And it is a big part of the

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holidays, and I also sometimes do it in our summertime celebration, but I do red, white and blue and m

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and try to be whatever, just way to try to fit in and be a good Larson and definitely comes from his side

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of the family. So anyway, his dad was bragging to me about how he makes his checks mix in the

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microwave, and I was like, Ew, I don't like that. I don't like the sound of it.

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Emma:

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This classic Elsie, she does this response to me sometimes too.

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Elsie:

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I don't like microwaves that much in general, which is fine. I've gotten way better than I used to be.

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Microwaves are, yeah. I used to not even be able to handle it, and now I can even use a microwave, but I

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just would choose not to Most of the time. Yeah, I'm the same. It heats things kind of weird, tricky. And

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we have one in our home. I used to be like, no microwave allowed. Now I'm like, whatever. It's there. If

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we need to melt some chocolate, that's pretty much, it's useful the time.

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Emma:

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It's okay. My mother-in-law's anti microwave too.

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Elsie:

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Yeah, whatever. So I was a little bit like we were home by ourselves. And I know my in-laws or my

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mother-in-law's definitely going to hear this, but I'm fine. I'm just going to, I think she'll like it. Sorry Pat. I

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was a little bit just roasting Jeremy's dad. Can you believe he thinks that it's better because it's

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microwaved? And Jeremy says, I do like my dad's checks mix better. And then he adds, or maybe I

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might've said why demanding answers. And then he says, yours is a little dry on Christmas night shots

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fired to a mom with young kids. Our kids were still almost toddlers at this time, and I had already had at

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least one or two glasses of wine. Yeah, yeah. That's the problem right there. So I was just immediately

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bawling and it actually was and is one of our biggest, but also funniest marriage fights. I don't think

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we've had a bigger fight since then because I felt like he was trashing my hard work of Christmas. And it

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is so much work for moms. I think that one of the things hills I will die on is that dads will probably never

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understand unless they had to do a year without you, what it actually takes. I don't think they really

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know. They're basically little kids. They don't really know what it takes to make all this. You know what I

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mean?

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Emma:

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Yeah. It's like Thanksgiving dinner and you know who didn't cooked and you know who didn't cook.

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Elsie:

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And you can say thank you and you can truly be thankful in your heart, but if you've never done it, you

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don't know. So anyway, I was bawling and I think it was a combination of a tiny bit drunk also just being

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the end of a long, long, long, long season. You were tired slash day. And then also he just said the

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absolute wrongest thing you can ever say. So now we have a lot of checks, mixed jokes, and this year I'm

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actually going to try to redeem in my textbooks. I never give up. Okay. That's one thing about me is I

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never give up. So I am going to redeem it and I'm just going to use three times as much butter. That's

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what I decided.

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Emma:

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That's what you need. That's what my father-in-law does. That's why his is so good. Try my text mix on

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Thursday and tell me, you saw the amount of butter and I've made it with him a number of times now.

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It's like you feel your heart stopping, but then it comes out of the oven and you're like, this is delicious. I

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better eat a whole bag of it. And that's how it goes.

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Elsie:

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So anyway, now everyone who listens to our podcast knows never, never bring up how bad my text fix is.

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And from Jeremy's perspective, how he defends himself from his version of the story, he says that I

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forced him to say it and that I pulled it out of him and that he was just saying he likes his dad's Chex mix.

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And I was like, why? And then he finally said, yours is a little dry, which was the main.

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Emma:

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You want to hear my outsider's perspective?

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Elsie:

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Yes. Give it to me.

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Emma:

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Here it is. Jeremy should not have called your Chex Mix Dry. That was a little bit rude. And also you were

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being a little about something that doesn't matter.

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Elsie:

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Right, right. I can accept that for sure. Actually I think it's really funny now. It is really funny. And I'm back

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now. There was a couple years where I didn't make the Chex mix because I was so mad. And I was like,

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you just have your microwaved Chex mix. And that's fine with me, but now I'm back again with my

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ingredients my way. I'll give it another shot. I'm not going to give up.

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Emma:

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Here's the thing. I'll also say this, just my own little perspective. I don't have Chex Mix like you do, but I

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have things where my husband prefers it, the way his dad made it growing up and the way his mom

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makes it. Isn't there something with pancakes? I don't really want to go into the specifics of what our

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things are, but I have a feeling every couple knows what we're talking about. I didn't ask him, so I don't

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want to. But I think the point is, here's the thing to keep in mind. It's not about you. It's about their

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childhood. Right. True. And you should never make someone apologize for their childhood. Just let 'em

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keep their childhood. And if you don't like the way they make something or if they don't prefer your way,

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they like their mom or their dad's way more, whatever, just let it go. Just know that it doesn't really

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matter. And probably your kids are going to do this to their partners one day, and that's not ideal either,

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but it's just how it is. It's more like the nostalgia of it probably than anything else.

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Elsie:

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True.

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Emma:

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And that's kind of sweet when you think about it. Is it annoying? Yes, it is annoying. Especially if you are

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really proud of this thing you've made or it took a lot of work, then yeah, it's a little annoying, but it's just

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like, yeah, it means that they had a good childhood or they have a thing that they like from their family

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and it's like that's actually really healthy and good that they have that. It's true's probably one of the

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things that makes them a good partner. So it's like, you know what it, that's fine. They can like their dad's

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pancakes more than mine. That's fine. Oh wait, I said it.

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Elsie:

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That's fine. It's out there. You can't put that back in.

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Emma:

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Oh, it doesn't matter. I think Bill's pancakes are a plus and his Texas trash.

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Elsie:

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Yeah, and I just want to say for the record, I do think his dad's Chex mix is good.

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Emma:

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Oh, it's really good.

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Elsie:

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That's not the problem. I just think mine is good also.

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Emma:

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Oh, I thought you were talking about my father-in-law. Oh, my father-in-law's basic. I've never had your

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father-in-law. I'm sure it's good.

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Elsie:

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Bring me some of Bill's checks mix in a little bag though. Now I want to know.

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Emma:

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It's really good.

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Elsie:

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But yeah, no, everything. It's all, yeah, and whatever, whatever, whatever.

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Emma:

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No, I'm with you. Microwave, get out of here.

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Elsie:

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Life is beautiful. That's who cares. I guess story.

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Emma:

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It's not a competition as I try to tell my oldest son all the time. It's not a competition.

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Elsie:

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You're right.

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Emma:

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You don't have to win a check fix. You could just let it be.

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Elsie:

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I do though. I do have it. Eventually I will. That's right. Okay, we're going to pass it to a joke. And in fact,

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with Nova. Hey Nova, what do you have for us this week?

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Nova:

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A joke, another Christmas one.

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Elsie:

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Okay, I'm ready.

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Nova:

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What did the gingerbread man put on his bed?

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Elsie:

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What?

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Nova:

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A cookie sheet.

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Elsie:

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That's a good one. Have a good week everyone.

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Emma:

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You can email us anytime at podcast@abeautifulmess.com. And you can also leave us a voicemail at 8 9

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Elsie:

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Don't forget to leave us. Your piping hot takes.

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Emma:

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Oh yeah. From last episode.

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Elsie:

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Yeah. Hot takes that don't matter. This super hot takes that. Don't matter. Your personal Hilda. Dion,

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we're going to do a special episode for those in January.