"Weird Science" (1985) vs. "Real Genius" (1985): Part 2

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<v Speaker 1>Well, so welcome back to the Shirley You Can't Be
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<v Speaker 1>casting for real genius?
<v Speaker 3>How about we do part two a real Genius versus
<v Speaker 3>weird science and we start with casting of real genius.
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<v Speaker 1>Thanks Sean. Okay, now I think it is time that
<v Speaker 1>we get into the nuts and bolts. We're going to
<v Speaker 1>talk We talked casting for Weird Science at the end
<v Speaker 1>of our last episode. Let's talk about casting for Real Genius.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So leading off, the main guy in Real Genius
<v Speaker 3>obviously is the one, the only, the late great Val Kilmer. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>he plays Chris Knight.
<v Speaker 1>Something strange happened to me this morning.
<v Speaker 2>Was it a dream where you see yourself standing in
<v Speaker 2>sort of sun god robes on a pyramid with a
<v Speaker 2>thousand naked women screaming and throwing little pickles at No?
<v Speaker 2>I am I the only person that has that dream.
<v Speaker 3>When he auditioned for this movie, he read the script
<v Speaker 3>and realized Chris Knight is not a polite guy.
<v Speaker 1>Hmm.
<v Speaker 3>So when he came into the room, he was cocky
<v Speaker 3>and introduced himself to Brian Grazer, who is the producer.
<v Speaker 1>The producer. Yeah, and he's Brian Grazier, big producer. Like
<v Speaker 1>he's done a ton, like worked with Ron Howard and
<v Speaker 1>done a ton of stuff. He's done a ton of stuff.
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he had done quite that, not much
<v Speaker 1>at that point.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like splash was his big thing at that moment, right,
<v Speaker 3>But he introduced himself. Brian Grazer says, Hi, how you doing,
<v Speaker 3>I'm the producer, and al Kimer said, you look like
<v Speaker 3>you're twelve.
<v Speaker 1>I like to work with men.
<v Speaker 3>And they thought, you know what, that cocky attitude, that
<v Speaker 3>self confidence, this is our guy.
<v Speaker 1>That's exactly what Chris Knight needs to be. Yeah, the reformed,
<v Speaker 1>rebellious nerd. That's right, that's right. Didn't want him to
<v Speaker 1>think he was stuffy. You know, I'll bring no penis. Wait,
<v Speaker 1>don't eat that. I've heard it can cause enormous breath.
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I'm too late.
<v Speaker 3>Some of his lines in this movie are so funny.
<v Speaker 3>I really really enjoy this movie. I'll be interested to
<v Speaker 3>see how you weigh in at the end of this
<v Speaker 3>when we do our final judgment.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely, So tell me, did you see this movie
<v Speaker 1>when it first came out? Like the theater? This was
<v Speaker 1>a HBO staple for me though, Okay, I don't remember
<v Speaker 1>it in theaters. I did see Weird Science in theaters, huh,
<v Speaker 1>but this was a regular on HBO for I'm pretty
<v Speaker 1>confident my brother took me to see this one. This
<v Speaker 1>is okay, yeah, this is one of those ones. It
<v Speaker 1>wasn't it wasn't up to the Diehard or The Future
<v Speaker 1>that he did that with me with, but this was
<v Speaker 1>definitely one that we went and saw together.
<v Speaker 3>I did see Top Secret in the theater, and I
<v Speaker 3>saw Top Gun about twenty times in the theater, so
<v Speaker 3>you know.
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, no, Top Secret was We loved it because
<v Speaker 1>we're big airplane fans and that was I mean, same guys,
<v Speaker 1>So we watched Top Secret a lot. Actually, we may
<v Speaker 1>have had that one on VHS.
<v Speaker 3>Right, So, I just want to run through some of
<v Speaker 3>these titles for Val Kilmer. I mean, we all are
<v Speaker 3>pretty familiar with his career, I think, but I mean,
<v Speaker 3>listen to some.
<v Speaker 1>Of these names.
<v Speaker 3>You've got heat you've got Ghosts in the Darkness. You've
<v Speaker 3>got Wonderland where he plays John Holmes. Kind of interesting.
<v Speaker 1>Wow, I missed that one.
<v Speaker 3>You have Top Gun, Yes, you have Willow. Yeah, you
<v Speaker 3>have The Doors.
<v Speaker 1>Mad Martigan. Yeah, Jim Morrison. You you have thunder Heart.
<v Speaker 1>Remember what his name Wasn't that that's a good movie
<v Speaker 1>because I don't remember his name. But you have Tombstone. Gosh.
<v Speaker 1>I saw the Babylon b headline on the day that
<v Speaker 1>he died, and it said, all men across the country,
<v Speaker 1>in honor of Val Kilmer's death are quoting too Stone
<v Speaker 1>just like usual. That's good. I like it.
<v Speaker 3>And then, of course he was in Batman Forever.
<v Speaker 1>Hm hmm, how about that.
<v Speaker 3>We need to talk about that sometime.
<v Speaker 1>Actually, yeah, we do have a we do have a
<v Speaker 1>What the heck Happened coming up where we've got the
<v Speaker 1>same director right still, Joel Schumacher, but after Joel and
<v Speaker 1>Val parted ways. I remember I remember seeing Joel talk
<v Speaker 1>about not rehiring Val and literally saying Vow was an apple,
<v Speaker 1>and I was just like, wow, I didn't I wouldn't
<v Speaker 1>have expected that. I mean, he's definitely a character, but
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he was probably the worst actor in
<v Speaker 1>that particular scenario, especially after Batman and Robin came out.
<v Speaker 1>Batman and Robin made his performance in Banman Forever looked
<v Speaker 1>good Oscar worthy. But I've got something and we're going
<v Speaker 1>to talk about that with Jeff Johnson this summer.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Badman and Robin versus Superman returns.
<v Speaker 1>Yes though too. What happened episodes bat Nipples versus Stoker Superman.
<v Speaker 3>When you've got a Stocker Superman, you've got a problem.
<v Speaker 3>So I want to tell you this, this idea that
<v Speaker 3>Joel Schumacher found Vlkilmer difficult. I think Martha Coolidge found
<v Speaker 3>him difficult. I know Tony Scott found him difficult.
<v Speaker 1>He's a difficult guy. Okay.
<v Speaker 3>The director of the Island of Doctor Moreau, Oh, which
<v Speaker 3>is a legendary terrible production.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, is that that's the one with Marlon Brando, right,
<v Speaker 1>Marlon Brando? Okay, I believe it was John Frankenheimer. I
<v Speaker 1>know he was the director of that show. Okay, he said,
<v Speaker 1>and I you know, I'm quoting from the Val documentary.
<v Speaker 1>If I were making a movie called The Life and
<v Speaker 1>Times of Val Kilmer, I would not hire that a hole.
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, dang, yeah, okay.
<v Speaker 3>Legendary actor, fun on the screen.
<v Speaker 1>Difficult to get along with them, not a friend of
<v Speaker 1>directors apparently, all right, okay, well it's good to know. Okay.
<v Speaker 3>Now then, as Mitch, we have Gabriel Jarrett.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I want you to think about what you've done, Kent,
<v Speaker 1>and from now on, stop playing with yourself. Yeah, that
<v Speaker 1>was gonna be more excited. Yeah until last year, year
<v Speaker 1>and a half ago.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so, I mean he's bounced around a little bit,
<v Speaker 3>he's done some stuff.
<v Speaker 1>Upon thirteen, he was like, he was like, what fourteen
<v Speaker 1>when this when the film? This movie? Right, he's born
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen seventy so yeah, yeah, and this came out
<v Speaker 1>in eighty five, so yeah, he's probably fourteen maybe just
<v Speaker 1>hit fifteen, right, And interestingly enough, just a year and
<v Speaker 1>a half ago it circled full circle when he was
<v Speaker 1>old and after a fourteen year old girl he got
<v Speaker 1>arrested in a not arrested, not rest. He got caught
<v Speaker 1>because that the police. Oh that's right, those guys weren't cops. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>So this was like the citizens per patrol or per
<v Speaker 1>patrol something like that name. Yeah. So anyway, basically a
<v Speaker 1>watchdog group that would lure guys into fishing text threads
<v Speaker 1>with girls that were under age allegedly which were not
<v Speaker 1>girls at all, just these guys out on witch hunts
<v Speaker 1>for these guys trying to uncover the pervs. And yeah,
<v Speaker 1>and Gabrielle Jarrett was meeting someone who he thought was
<v Speaker 1>a fourteen year old girl at the end of a
<v Speaker 1>pier somewhere, and once confronted, he argued for a bit,
<v Speaker 1>and then he took off on his little scooter a
<v Speaker 1>little like limewires. Can you just imagine the embarrassment of
<v Speaker 1>the situation, only to be intensified by the fact that
<v Speaker 1>you're escaping on a little battery phone app scooter.
<v Speaker 3>He might have to go home and live in mom
<v Speaker 3>and dad's, So yeah, pretty awkward.
<v Speaker 1>But as I point it out to you, you know,
<v Speaker 1>they turned over all their stuff the police. Just to
<v Speaker 1>be the devil's advocate here, They turned all their stuff
<v Speaker 1>over the police, and they still haven't filed any charges
<v Speaker 1>against him. So he maintains that he never posted anything inappropriate.
<v Speaker 1>They say he did. He said it was her who
<v Speaker 1>posted all the inappropriate stuff and he was just coming
<v Speaker 1>to let her down easy in person. It was his story.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why you'd not be able to do
<v Speaker 1>that by text, but I.
<v Speaker 3>Rolled up a muscooter. I was gonna let her down easy.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, wearing my hoodie and dark sunglass. I don't know
<v Speaker 1>that I'm making that part up. I'm just kidding, Oh
<v Speaker 1>my gosh. Yeah, but anyway, kind of a kind of
<v Speaker 1>a sad end to a not quite career.
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, we didn't know that when we started this podcast.
<v Speaker 3>And sadly Mitch is in big trouble. Yeah, possibly maybe
<v Speaker 3>maybe we see who knows?
<v Speaker 1>All right, Michelle Myrink.
<v Speaker 2>I never sleep.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what.
<v Speaker 3>Had a roommate and drove her nuts.
<v Speaker 1>I mean really, I have to take away an ambulance
<v Speaker 1>and everything. But she's okay now. But she had to
<v Speaker 1>transfer to News your school. But I don't know if
<v Speaker 1>that anything, it would be my fault. But listen, if
<v Speaker 1>you ever need to talk any help saying, just let
<v Speaker 1>me know, because I'm just a couple of doors down
<v Speaker 1>from you guys, and I never sleep. Okay, Okay, So
<v Speaker 1>I dove deep on Michelle Myra. Oh good, okay, because
<v Speaker 1>I mean she is It's a literal like who's Who's
<v Speaker 1>list of movies in the eighties that she's in.
<v Speaker 3>She had a string of great movies she.
<v Speaker 1>Had Okay, so she had The Outsiders, she had The
<v Speaker 1>Joy of Sex, which I don't think was a great movie,
<v Speaker 1>but uh, I mean it had it looked like it
<v Speaker 1>had potential. I could see how she would be confused
<v Speaker 1>with it. Okay, just to interrupt you real quick. Joy
<v Speaker 1>of Sex. Yeah, I haven't seen that movie, but I
<v Speaker 1>do know it was directed by Martha Coolidge. Oh okay, yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>so like the year before, working with the same director.
<v Speaker 1>So just a Martha Coolidge real quick. Because she's got
<v Speaker 1>there's some interesting things about her. Number one, she is
<v Speaker 1>a distant relative of Calvin Coolidge, the president. Oh yeah, wow,
<v Speaker 1>I thought that was pretty cool. After film school, directed
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of documentaries about New York City, but then
<v Speaker 1>went and studied with Lee Strasberg and Stella Adler studied
<v Speaker 1>the craft of acting, not because she wanted to act,
<v Speaker 1>but because she wanted to direct. And then she went
<v Speaker 1>and went to la and joined Zoetrope Studios with Francis Ford,
<v Speaker 1>cole Ford Copola. Right, she does Valley Girl.
<v Speaker 3>She basically discovers Nicholas Cage absolutely. I mean, he had
<v Speaker 3>been in been in Outsiders, Rubblefish.
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, Yes, he had been in Rubblefish.
<v Speaker 3>Right, because he's Francis Ford Coppola's nephew. But she's the
<v Speaker 3>one who actually gave him a shot. But you can
<v Speaker 3>see the connection there because he she's working. Yeah, that's right,
<v Speaker 3>that makes the connection makes sense. She was ended up
<v Speaker 3>being the first female president of the Director's Guild of America.
<v Speaker 3>So I mean not to say she's killing it.
<v Speaker 1>But back to Michelle Myrink, Okay, So list of her
<v Speaker 1>shows nineteen eighty three, The Outsiders nineteen eighty three, Valley
<v Speaker 1>Girl nineteen eighty four, Joy of Sex nineteen eighty five,
<v Speaker 1>she was on an episode of Family Ties. I'd love
<v Speaker 1>to talk to you about that, okay. Then of course
<v Speaker 1>Real Genius, which we're talking about today. And then she
<v Speaker 1>did a few more movies, including Nice Girls Don't Explode.
<v Speaker 1>I'm really kind of curious about that one. But then
<v Speaker 1>in eighty nine she just said, this is not the
<v Speaker 1>life that I want. She went and studied like Zen
<v Speaker 1>Buddhism with her husband, and they now live up in
<v Speaker 1>Canada and she's opened her own acting studio up there
<v Speaker 1>where she tries to train people in the way that
<v Speaker 1>she was trained in the acting schools in Hollywood. Interesting. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>you know.
<v Speaker 3>One title that you didn't mention, Revenge the Nerds.
<v Speaker 1>Oh, yes, I totally jumped right over it. Yes, Yes,
<v Speaker 1>she's one of the girl Nerds.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, So I want to talk about her Family Ties
<v Speaker 3>episode real quick, Okay, okay, do you remember Skippy, Yes,
<v Speaker 3>Alex's buddy. Yeah, love was like a nerd yea and
<v Speaker 3>he's always hanging around Alex p Keaton. So Michelle Myrink's character,
<v Speaker 3>I can't remember her name. She was one of Mallory's friends.
<v Speaker 3>She comes over the house and Skippy's like in love
<v Speaker 3>with her and he wants Alex to set them up
<v Speaker 3>on a date. And so Alex is doing his best
<v Speaker 3>to match make and Skippy leaves whatever. And so Alex
<v Speaker 3>and Michelle Myrink's character are at the kitchen table, you know,
<v Speaker 3>the Family Ties kitchen table, and he's trying to like
<v Speaker 3>build up Skippy and she's like, Alex, I've been waiting
<v Speaker 3>for this moment my entire life. And she plants one
<v Speaker 3>on him and he's like, he's like frozen.
<v Speaker 1>But she's like a little vixen in this one.
<v Speaker 3>Nice I was like, let's go Jordan.
<v Speaker 1>Oh. And her character is I mean, it's steal. She
<v Speaker 1>steals every scene that she's in, that scattered, manic little thing.
<v Speaker 1>Are you done yet?
<v Speaker 3>I can't start weird because I'm here.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think so.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And she's like, yeah, she's just here and there.
<v Speaker 3>I never sleep, so come down and talk to me.
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, great character, great character.
<v Speaker 3>Speaking of great characters, we have the wonderful William Atherton
<v Speaker 3>as Professor Hathaway in this movie.
<v Speaker 1>What are you looking at your laborers? You're supposed to
<v Speaker 1>be laboring, That's what I guess. We're not having an education.
<v Speaker 1>Not Peck, not Walter Peck, and not Harvey Thornberg. Right,
<v Speaker 1>he is in the trinity. We have completed our trinity. Uh,
<v Speaker 1>we've completed our trinity of a whole characters played by
<v Speaker 1>William Mathton with a math to think.
<v Speaker 3>Let's rank these real quick. Okay, you got Ghostbusters. You
<v Speaker 3>got the Environmental Protection Agency Walter Peck.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm Walter Peck.
<v Speaker 2>I represent the Environmental Protection Agency the third District.
<v Speaker 1>Great, how's it going down there?
<v Speaker 3>You got the news reporter from Diehard, the one who's
<v Speaker 3>gonna call I N S. If they don't let him
<v Speaker 3>in Thornburg.
<v Speaker 1>Thornberg. Yeah, all right, Look, sim I tell you what.
<v Speaker 1>You don't want to give me a truck, I'll go
<v Speaker 1>and I'll steal a truck. Hey, give us a break, Thornburg, Harve,
<v Speaker 1>eat it, Harvey.
<v Speaker 3>And then you've got Jerry Hathaway.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, hello, Jerry. I told you before. Can't you don't
<v Speaker 1>get to use my first name? Did I?
<v Speaker 3>Who asked Mitch if he asked Mitch's parents if he
<v Speaker 3>was possibly adopted?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Or well better than that. He was like, you
<v Speaker 1>won't graduate. Even if you pass, you don't pass. Right,
<v Speaker 1>Like he's gonna screw over one of the geniuses because
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't give him the stuff he needs for the
<v Speaker 1>under the table money that he's using to build his house. Right,
<v Speaker 1>I mean, so, which is the slimiest of those three? Woh,
<v Speaker 1>that's hard call. I'm gonna go with this one. I'm
<v Speaker 1>gonna go with Professor like he's he is bad in
<v Speaker 1>all respects.
<v Speaker 3>I'm with you, I think despite his terrible characters, you know,
<v Speaker 3>he's dickless and ghostbusters right, and he's he at least is.
<v Speaker 1>He believes he is fighting the good fight. In that one,
<v Speaker 1>he's the EPA, like these guys are these guys.
<v Speaker 3>These guys are releasing now's just chemicals and we have
<v Speaker 3>and you're right, but Professor Hathaway complete scumbag, vindictive.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, everybody loves and he's condescending and awful. Right, Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>this is this one wins for sure. I'm with you. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>and I'm just gonna say, if you're playing a reporter,
<v Speaker 1>you kind of they're all slimy, So sorry say that
<v Speaker 1>l after right, Sorry, go ahead.
<v Speaker 3>This is the last chance these kids are gonna have
<v Speaker 3>to speak to their parents.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So I want to talk about Robert Prescott for
<v Speaker 1>a second. Okay, check it out. Well, yeah, for what mistakes?
<v Speaker 1>I guess he said you guys were stuck.
<v Speaker 2>No no, no, no no no no no no no no no.
<v Speaker 1>Let's get something very clear here. Okay, when Jerry's not here,
<v Speaker 1>you do what I he plays Kent.
<v Speaker 3>It goes to Jerry to me, playing with yourself.
<v Speaker 1>He's a bit over the top.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so he drove you crazy. Yes, I thought he
<v Speaker 3>was awesome.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's supposed to be unlikable, but yeah, I found
<v Speaker 1>his acting unlikable. But it's fine for this movie. He's fine.
<v Speaker 3>So I first kind of discovered that actor in Bachelor Party.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, that's right.
<v Speaker 3>He's the guy that's vying for Tony Katain's love, yes,
<v Speaker 3>and like her dad really wants them together, and he
<v Speaker 3>just can't stand Tom Hanks.
<v Speaker 1>And right, he's the blonde, handsome boy from the club, right.
<v Speaker 3>That's right, the one that they dangle out, the one
<v Speaker 3>don't naked Bachelor Party. Yeah, and then of course he's Kent,
<v Speaker 3>who's like chief.
<v Speaker 1>Of the butt heads in this movie.
<v Speaker 3>Right, so he actually remember, he sabotages the laser by putting.
<v Speaker 1>He's pretty slimy too, putting oil on his optics. So
<v Speaker 1>that at the end scene in the movie, whenever he's
<v Speaker 1>going to what he thinks is some sort of revelatory
<v Speaker 1>experience from God, let me have it. And like as
<v Speaker 1>the popcorns popping, he's just standing there and his hands
<v Speaker 1>are in this kind of I don't know, like almost
<v Speaker 1>epileptic form behind him. Like I'm like, what he thinks
<v Speaker 1>he's getting a sign from God. Okay, Okay, it's ridiculous,
<v Speaker 1>but all right, yeah, that's right. Yes, I think he
<v Speaker 1>does great in this movie. I love having somebody to
<v Speaker 1>fight against you know, right, Okay, all right, I want
<v Speaker 1>to talk about John.
<v Speaker 3>Grys for a second. Okay, okay, he's the guy who
<v Speaker 3>plays Laslow, the guy who lives in their closet.
<v Speaker 1>Yea, so that's Low Hollyfield Leslow Hollyfield. So do you
<v Speaker 1>know that this is based on a real person? Tell
<v Speaker 1>me his name is Hopfeld? What? Yes? Literally, they and
<v Speaker 1>Martha Coolidge talks about meeting this guy like this, this
<v Speaker 1>is a legitimate guy who was up at the top genius. Cracked,
<v Speaker 1>went kind of crazy, she said, when he came in,
<v Speaker 1>like he's nastier than Holyfield, like Hopfeld like didn't cut
<v Speaker 1>his fingernails, like he walked in and they were like
<v Speaker 1>long and you know, going to church and Atlanta a
<v Speaker 1>long kind of deal and I got you and and
<v Speaker 1>just bizarre, like smelled bad, just weird but obviously stratosphere
<v Speaker 1>genius with all these weird quirks and yeah, which I'm sorry.
<v Speaker 1>What was the actor's name, John Grice, Wry John Grice,
<v Speaker 1>who has been in a bunch of stuff. He was
<v Speaker 1>the werewolf in Yes, and he's uncle whatever his name is. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I mean he's done so many memorable parts, but this
<v Speaker 1>one he I heard him talking about it, and he's like,
<v Speaker 1>I really want to kind of wanted to hone in
<v Speaker 1>on the fact that he's wounded, and he nails that
<v Speaker 1>because he's very lovable, like Hollyhells. Even though he's so
<v Speaker 1>weird and mysterious. He's like you can tell that he's
<v Speaker 1>been like he's like the dog that shakes when you
<v Speaker 1>go to petit, but kind you know, it's it's great.
<v Speaker 3>I love when he comes to tell them. They're celebrating
<v Speaker 3>this breakthrough in the laser and he comes to tell
<v Speaker 3>and they're having a party or whatever, and they're like,
<v Speaker 3>what do you think they're going to use this laser
<v Speaker 3>for it?
<v Speaker 1>Right? Yeah, he's the one that like tips the hand
<v Speaker 1>for the bad guys.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it is like, how about a big block of
<v Speaker 3>Swiss cheese? And you know, but he's like no, he
<v Speaker 3>points it out to them and they realized they've been duped,
<v Speaker 3>you know. Okay, so his dad is a director. Okay,
<v Speaker 3>did you ever see the nineteen seventies version of Helter Skelter. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>oh yeah, yeah, he directed that movie.
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow. Okay, yeah, crazy okay.
<v Speaker 3>And actually I was listening to John Gray's tell the
<v Speaker 3>story of how he got involved in acting. So he
<v Speaker 3>was hanging out at his dad's job. Essentially, they're on
<v Speaker 3>the lot, his dad's working and John was, you know,
<v Speaker 3>bugging him, and he's like, just go play on the
<v Speaker 3>on the Bonanza lot and sends him over to the
<v Speaker 3>Bonanza lot. Well, he had just lost a front.
<v Speaker 1>Door working about Little Joe Yes and haws.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, Bananza okay, Yeah, and he had lost a tooth
<v Speaker 3>and he's out there just screwing around. He's bugging his
<v Speaker 3>dad to death. So he sends him over there and
<v Speaker 3>basically somebody looks at him and thinks, you know, that
<v Speaker 3>kid'd be pretty good. So that's how they discovered him.
<v Speaker 3>Come here, Yeah, I need you right here playing on
<v Speaker 3>the Bonanza lot.
<v Speaker 1>Right. Wow.
<v Speaker 3>So okay, So I've got a couple other names I
<v Speaker 3>want to share with you before I drop my big
<v Speaker 3>my big one. Okay, okay, So you've got Yugi Okemono.
<v Speaker 3>I can't remember how he say his name properly.
<v Speaker 1>He's the Howard Kosel from Better Off Dead or it
<v Speaker 1>was it real gene or no, it was better off Dead.
<v Speaker 1>It was better Off Dead.
<v Speaker 3>He does the uh language lessons.
<v Speaker 1>Right, Yes, And we mentioned that he is of course
<v Speaker 1>also in Karate Kid two as the bad is chosen
<v Speaker 1>and he's chosen, and then shows up in Corporate Kai
<v Speaker 1>as the same character again, but he is briefly in
<v Speaker 1>this it's at the pool party. He looked into the
<v Speaker 1>right scene to be a part of in this movie,
<v Speaker 1>as is the guy that we talked about last time,
<v Speaker 1>Real Smooth Cliff. He's in that scene as well from
<v Speaker 1>sixteen Candles.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, just while we're here. The pool party is one
<v Speaker 3>of the most ridiculous scenes in the entire movie.
<v Speaker 1>I if wanted to have a party like that for
<v Speaker 1>my entire life.
<v Speaker 3>But I'm totally with you, right because it looks like
<v Speaker 3>a blast. But literally, they've set up a pool in
<v Speaker 3>like the orchestra section of the auditorium of the auditorium,
<v Speaker 3>and they've got a water slign and somebody said, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>let's set up a pool in this room and have
<v Speaker 3>the Tanning Invitational come.
<v Speaker 1>Hey, hey, if people buy tickets, sell tickets, that's my gosh,
<v Speaker 1>it literally was.
<v Speaker 3>I was just looking at this going, could the production
<v Speaker 3>not afforded to have this at a pool somewhere?
<v Speaker 1>No, this makes it so much better because I think
<v Speaker 1>that that's kind of part of the atmosphere that they
<v Speaker 1>were going for in this movie. I mean we talked
<v Speaker 1>about how this is kind of based on cal Tech, right,
<v Speaker 1>and so it would be more likely that those students,
<v Speaker 1>instead of going to an actual real pool, would go
<v Speaker 1>how can we make a pool out of a theater?
<v Speaker 1>You know? Right? And and and even the you know
<v Speaker 1>the scene where everything is ice. You know this ice,
<v Speaker 1>This is what happens to water when it gets cold.
<v Speaker 1>So that was based on a real thing that that
<v Speaker 1>happened at cal Tech. I don't know if it was
<v Speaker 1>precisely that, but that same idea. And you'll notice the
<v Speaker 1>walls have cartoons all over them. You notice as they
<v Speaker 1>were walking on right, that's what the cal Tech like.
<v Speaker 1>They literally went to cal Tech. They went to the
<v Speaker 1>dorm that these students were in, and they took pictures
<v Speaker 1>of the walls. I mean, this wasn't like some creative
<v Speaker 1>genius put this up there. They took the pictures from
<v Speaker 1>cal Tech and re painted them, drew them all over
<v Speaker 1>the walls. And then she had some cal Tech students
<v Speaker 1>come in and they were like consultants to talk about
<v Speaker 1>how things worked. But then like when people left and
<v Speaker 1>they were still there with Martha cool and she'd be like,
<v Speaker 1>go draw on the wall some and they loved it.
<v Speaker 1>They would go put more stuff on the walls. Right,
<v Speaker 1>But that that kind of crazy. Let's spink outside of
<v Speaker 1>the box. Let's do something different. Okay, that's fair, Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>all right.
<v Speaker 3>You also have Deborah Foreman in this movie. She has
<v Speaker 3>kind of a smaller part. She plays Susan Yep, she's
<v Speaker 3>the girl who asked Chris Knight if he can ye know.
<v Speaker 3>He's like, have you ever seen a body like this
<v Speaker 3>in your entire life?
<v Speaker 1>That's my daughter? Oh, I guess you have right.
<v Speaker 3>And she says, can you drive a six inch spike
<v Speaker 3>through a board with your penis? And he's like, not
<v Speaker 3>right now?
<v Speaker 1>Like a girl's got a habrstandards. Yes, that's Devorah Foreman.
<v Speaker 1>She's Valley Girl. She was in Valley Girl. Yeah, she
<v Speaker 1>was the val She was the Valley Girl.
<v Speaker 3>So, just to recap, we haven't talked about the movie
<v Speaker 3>Valley Girl, but we have talked about Deborah Foreman.
<v Speaker 1>We've now talked about Michelle Myrink. We talked about eg
<v Speaker 1>Daily in our Better Off Dead episode and Nick Cage Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>and Martha Coolidge.
<v Speaker 3>We're kind of making our way through Martha around.
<v Speaker 1>Hovering around it. Maybe Valley Girl versus Past Times a
<v Speaker 1>Richmond High maybe maybe maybe.
<v Speaker 3>All Right, here's the name I want to talk to
<v Speaker 3>you about.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay.
<v Speaker 3>There is a older woman in this movie who's like
<v Speaker 3>a groupie.
<v Speaker 1>She's like a nerd groupie, nerd group Yeah, okay. Her
<v Speaker 1>character's name is Cherry Nangel. Yes, is that right. I've
<v Speaker 1>been looking for you for sixteen years. Yeah, yeah, Cherry Nougel.
<v Speaker 1>I think is her name? Uh huh? Okay.
<v Speaker 3>So she's played by Patty de Bonvi.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, it's a French name. Okay, Okay, now it's a
<v Speaker 1>d apostrophe, the apostrophe.
<v Speaker 3>She was a model in London when she was a teenager. Okay, okay,
<v Speaker 3>So this is my connection back to Weird Science where
<v Speaker 3>we talked about. There is a song written about Kelly Lebroc.
<v Speaker 3>Oh right, right, right, Man Eater, Man Eater, Go back
<v Speaker 3>and listen to our part one, part one. Yeah, Kelly Lebroc.
<v Speaker 3>The song Man Eater by Hollan Notes was written about
<v Speaker 3>Kelly LeBrock, right, Okay, And I tease you you up
<v Speaker 3>that there's actually another song written about somebody in real
<v Speaker 3>genius's this lady. So I'm gonna tell you a little
<v Speaker 3>just a little bit about her.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So she was a model in the sixties.
<v Speaker 3>She was in this really important French erotic film in
<v Speaker 3>the seventies, very artistic.
<v Speaker 1>I don't.
<v Speaker 3>Know a lot about it, but I saw the movie poster,
<v Speaker 3>and the French are okay with nudity on movie posters.
<v Speaker 3>I just let you know about that, all.
<v Speaker 1>Right, Google search. Yes. And so she was a kind
<v Speaker 1>of a happening babe, you know.
<v Speaker 3>And she went to a party where there are a
<v Speaker 3>bunch of musicians and you know, musicians they like their
<v Speaker 3>hot babes.
<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, those weird musicians like the babe I know.
<v Speaker 2>Right.
<v Speaker 3>So she goes to a party in New York City,
<v Speaker 3>right before she goes back to London to work on
<v Speaker 3>her modeling career whatever. So just attendees at this party.
<v Speaker 3>You have Jimmy Page, you have Steve Winwood, you have
<v Speaker 3>Eric Clapton.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you've dang, You've got the Yeah, you've got
<v Speaker 1>a trifecta of English rock stars there.
<v Speaker 3>That's incredible, I mean, right, yea, Now this is you know,
<v Speaker 3>early seventies.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but she meets Kat Stevens there, okay, yeah, moonshadow,
<v Speaker 1>that's right. Yeah yeah, go.
<v Speaker 3>Back to our American Werewolf in London episode here.
<v Speaker 1>Okay.
<v Speaker 3>So in nineteen seventy he releases a song called Lady
<v Speaker 3>de Bonvie.
<v Speaker 2>My Lady da Banvie, Why.
<v Speaker 1>Do you sleep? So, Steve, Lady de bond Vi And
<v Speaker 1>this girl's last name is de Bonby yep, so I'm
<v Speaker 1>going to make the mental leap that the song is
<v Speaker 1>about her. Yes? Was he at this party with Jimmy? Yeah? Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>Cat Stevens. Stevens was there and he's still Cat at
<v Speaker 1>that point, that's right. He wasn't used tohamada yeah whatever.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so they started a relationship. He kind of was
<v Speaker 3>like struck by her beauty. Obviously wrote a song about her.
<v Speaker 3>It reached number eight in the UK. Oh wow, so
<v Speaker 3>kind of a hit song. Cool, not what I was
<v Speaker 3>familiar with. But I also want to drop this song yet, okay.
<v Speaker 3>Patty de Bonvie yes, also was on a Miami Vice
<v Speaker 3>episode and she and Don Johnson were married basically common law.
<v Speaker 1>Married for four years eighty one to eighty five, cohabitated huh. Okay.
<v Speaker 3>They have a son together Wow. What she and Don
<v Speaker 3>Johnson were like an item. Wow for several years. That's crazy,
<v Speaker 3>during the Miami Vice years.
<v Speaker 1>Wow. Nice.
<v Speaker 3>And now she's in nineteen eighty five. She's chasing down
<v Speaker 3>Mitch because he's the smartest guy around, but she ends
<v Speaker 3>up with Laslow.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>All right, so that's the cast a real genius.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, love it? Okay, tidbits yeah, hit me all right,
<v Speaker 1>which we're gonna start with, go back to Weird Science. Now,
<v Speaker 1>let's go back to Weird Science. All right, dude, but
<v Speaker 1>wad So here's the tidbit I have on Weird Science. Okay, okay,
<v Speaker 1>So you remember what goes wrong when they try to
<v Speaker 1>recreate the that's a Persian missiles? Yeah right, my name
<v Speaker 1>is Chet. I didn't think it was a whales, right right,
<v Speaker 1>So that scene obviously was not an inexpensive scene to shoot, okay. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>And so they literally had to rig up the floor
<v Speaker 1>so that this gigantic missile would up through the floor. Yea,
<v Speaker 1>the whole you know, all the cast members are their
<v Speaker 1>carpet parts and all of this is happening. And as
<v Speaker 1>it reaches its peak, Anthony Michael Hall lets one go,
<v Speaker 1>Like the place just starts lacking and John Hughes is
<v Speaker 1>like you, and so they had to they had to reverse.
<v Speaker 1>They had to pull it back down.
<v Speaker 3>And like film clip it together, like they.
<v Speaker 1>Filmed it taking it back down, because the carpet's already
<v Speaker 1>ripped at that point, right, so they might to film
<v Speaker 1>it coming back down and then reverse the footage so
<v Speaker 1>that it looked like it was coming up. Because Anthony
<v Speaker 1>Michael Hall spoiled the million dollars shot.
<v Speaker 3>With Wow, that's hilarious.
<v Speaker 1>That is hilarious, man.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, I've got just a couple of tidbits for
<v Speaker 3>you on Weird Science. Okay, all right, So I thought
<v Speaker 3>this was interesting. You know how when they advertise or
<v Speaker 3>distribute a movie in other countries sometimes they changed the name.
<v Speaker 3>So Weird Science in other countries is not called Weird Science.
<v Speaker 3>In Sweden, it's called dream Woman. In Russia, it's called
<v Speaker 3>oh the Science right. Germany is called cool Magic with Lisa.
<v Speaker 3>In Denmark it's Touched Me, I'm yours, Okay, okay, but
<v Speaker 3>this is my favorite one. In Japan, it's called Electric Venus.
<v Speaker 1>I really thought you were gonna say electric vagina, electric venus.
<v Speaker 1>So okay, there was.
<v Speaker 3>A scene apparently that was filmed.
<v Speaker 1>It was in a script.
<v Speaker 3>It was filmed where the two bullies, the Robert Downey
<v Speaker 3>junior character and Robert Wrestler is the other guy's name,
<v Speaker 3>Ian and whatever the bullies where Lisa turns them into
<v Speaker 3>like a pig and a donkey, and really we don't
<v Speaker 3>really get any sort of resolution and resolution with them.
<v Speaker 3>They just kind of vanish.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they go away, but a pig and a donkey. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>There's another scene in the movie that they cut out
<v Speaker 1>where like these guys show up for the party and
<v Speaker 1>they're all wearing like devo hats. Yeah, at least it's like, no,
<v Speaker 1>you can't come in. Really yeah, okay, yeah, that's cool.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I did like this. John Hughes described Lisa as
<v Speaker 3>Mary Poppins with breasts.
<v Speaker 1>Well, okay, Mary Poppins had breasts, so I don't really
<v Speaker 1>understand that.
<v Speaker 3>But okay, I mean Julie Andrews, Kelly LeBrock.
<v Speaker 1>Dude, don't don't go there. Julie Andrews is hot. At
<v Speaker 1>least she was back in the day. That's fair. It's fair. Okay.
<v Speaker 1>I want to just throw something at you. See what
<v Speaker 1>you think about this? Huh?
<v Speaker 3>In the John Hughes universe. Weird Science takes place at
<v Speaker 3>Shermer High School. That's the same school that The Breakfast
<v Speaker 3>Club takes place at. Yes, it's also the same school
<v Speaker 3>that Ferris Bueler's Dale takes place at.
<v Speaker 1>Yes.
<v Speaker 3>I think probably Pretty and Pink and others some kind
<v Speaker 3>of wonderful Probably there is an alternate reality where Ferris
<v Speaker 3>and Ian are buddies, you know, and like, you know,
<v Speaker 3>Sloan goes to this party and runs into Lisa Or
<v Speaker 3>she's friends with deb and Hilly. They're on the cheerleading squad. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>I think it's kind of fun to think about maybe
<v Speaker 3>Sloan and Claire from Breakfast Club and Helly and Deb
<v Speaker 3>or on the same cheerleading squad.
<v Speaker 1>Sure, And Anthony Michael Hall is the nerd from sixteen
<v Speaker 1>candis Or from Breakfast Club either on both is also
<v Speaker 1>the nerd from Weird Science. I mean he could be
<v Speaker 1>the same guy in each one. I mean, obviously his
<v Speaker 1>name is different, so that kind of messes things up.
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it's still fun to think about it.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all right, tidbits from Real Genius do so if
<v Speaker 3>you ever watch the trailer the original trailer for Real
<v Speaker 3>Genius there's a scene where Chris Knight is in a
<v Speaker 3>lawn chair and there's like helium balloons and he's floating
<v Speaker 3>and he's you know, he's got his ray bands on.
<v Speaker 3>He's being cool and he's floating around in a launch
<v Speaker 3>air propelled by helium balloons. They actually cut that from
<v Speaker 3>the movie, I think because they were afraid that people
<v Speaker 3>were going to try that.
<v Speaker 1>Ah, okay, and then they tell you up came out there,
<v Speaker 1>you go. I do think people would have tried that,
<v Speaker 1>and people may still try people have tried that.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Let's talk about the popcorn scene for a second. Okay,
<v Speaker 3>So literally, it was somebody's job for six weeks to
<v Speaker 3>do nothing but pop popcorn.
<v Speaker 1>Right. It turns out that popcorn is very flammable, because
<v Speaker 1>they rented a warehouse to pop all of the popcorn,
<v Speaker 1>and they just throw it in the bag there, popped
<v Speaker 1>all of the popcorn, stored it, and then they burned
<v Speaker 1>down the warehouse because the popcorn was flammable. And so
<v Speaker 1>they said, okay, we have to do something to keep
<v Speaker 1>it from number one catching on fire and number two
<v Speaker 1>from rotting in the interim between when we pop it
<v Speaker 1>and when we have it in this house, and then
<v Speaker 1>of course they rig up a whole system so that
<v Speaker 1>they can like blow it out of the you know,
<v Speaker 1>cause it's they're not actually popping the corn, right, they're
<v Speaker 1>the tin foils over it to create the illusion. But
<v Speaker 1>it's already popped. People. It's the magic of Hollywood, right,
<v Speaker 1>And so they're they're they're gunning it out basically and
<v Speaker 1>gunning it out of the windows. But the buttery looking
<v Speaker 1>part of things is like a flame retardant sort of
<v Speaker 1>anti rot spray that they put all over.
<v Speaker 3>It, and they had to protect it from the birds.
<v Speaker 3>They were real worried the birds was gonna eat it
<v Speaker 3>and they get you know, die because of this flame
<v Speaker 3>retardan stuff all over it, right, right, so they had
<v Speaker 3>to be real careful about that.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, now you sent me something. This is a little weird.
<v Speaker 1>You sent me something, or maybe I just came across it.
<v Speaker 1>This is there is a rumor that Tom Hanks has
<v Speaker 1>like a brief cameo in this. I keep in mind,
<v Speaker 1>this is nineteen eighty five, okay, and so if you
<v Speaker 1>if you search Tom Hanks cameo real genius, you're gonna
<v Speaker 1>find some screenshots and you're gonna be like, is that
<v Speaker 1>Tom Hanks, because it really it could be so at
<v Speaker 1>You remember when Mitch first gets to the college, he
<v Speaker 1>says hello to a lady and he's like, I'm looking
<v Speaker 1>for this. She's like, oh, I'm glad to know that
<v Speaker 1>we have one, and she takes him to the weird guy.
<v Speaker 1>Never always check your references, yes, And then at that
<v Speaker 1>point he's like, well, I gotta go, and he backs
<v Speaker 1>up and he backs into somebody. That person. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>they've got their back to the camera, but just briefly like,
<v Speaker 1>go like this and it really looks a lot like
<v Speaker 1>Tom Hanks. But I say that in the same way
<v Speaker 1>that I think that the guy in the Rosanna video
<v Speaker 1>looks a lot like Patrick Sways.
<v Speaker 3>It is Patrick Swaves, not Patrick Swade.
<v Speaker 1>It does look like him, but it's not him. And
<v Speaker 1>this guy and then I saw some other people are like, no,
<v Speaker 1>that's not Tom Hanks. Tom Hanks is in the popcorn
<v Speaker 1>scene and he's got this white but I can't find
<v Speaker 1>any pictures of that. So I think this is urban bs,
<v Speaker 1>is what I thin. I think this is.
<v Speaker 3>The only connection I can think of. Splash, Well, you
<v Speaker 3>have Splash with Brian Grazer bachelor Party and Robert Prescott
<v Speaker 3>was in bachelor party as well. Yeah, so there are
<v Speaker 3>some connections there.
<v Speaker 1>It could have happened. Yeah, interesting, Yeah, okay.
<v Speaker 3>On the subject of popcorn, yes, they tried to simulate
<v Speaker 3>this idea that popcorn would burst through the doors blow
<v Speaker 3>out the windows.
<v Speaker 1>They did find that you could you could heat the
<v Speaker 1>popcorn up with a laser and make it.
<v Speaker 3>Pop legitimate okay from space.
<v Speaker 1>Well that probably would have been a little hard for
<v Speaker 1>MythBusters to pull off. The test for that one, come on, guys.
<v Speaker 3>But basically they found that the that was kind of
<v Speaker 3>busted because the popcorn would just char and yeah, not
<v Speaker 3>tear the house down, right. Yeah, okay, so I just
<v Speaker 3>got a couple more tibits. Right, William Atherton's real last name.
<v Speaker 1>Is Night. Oh it's William Atherton Knight. Huh. I guess
<v Speaker 1>Bill Knight would be too common. Atherton is less or
<v Speaker 1>maybe just maybe it's his mother's maiden name or something.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.
<v Speaker 3>Interesting, when they were promoting this movie, they actually there's
<v Speaker 3>stuff out there I saw that claims this is the
<v Speaker 3>first movie that was promoted by the Internet. Now it
<v Speaker 3>wasn't really the Internet. Well, it's they had a computer. Like, okay,
<v Speaker 3>so here's here's the rest of the story on that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So what they did was this. They promoted this
<v Speaker 1>was the first like movie conference, teleconference or whatever where
<v Speaker 1>they would appear by computer. And so Martha Coolidge and
<v Speaker 1>Brian Grazier were in a different place than all of
<v Speaker 1>the reporters, and they were connected with the comserve intranet's thing.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just like in the movie where you
<v Speaker 1>see them put the phone receiver on the little thing.
<v Speaker 1>It looks like a couple of bunchs of right and
<v Speaker 1>so and so they had this, They had their conference
<v Speaker 1>through the computer. It was wild and crazy. You know.
<v Speaker 3>I remember the first time I saw one of those
<v Speaker 3>little where you put your phone actually, which is I
<v Speaker 3>guess the modem. When I saw Matthew Brodders's character do
<v Speaker 3>that in War Games, I was like, oh, I need
<v Speaker 3>one of those, right, And I had no idea how
<v Speaker 3>it worked or what it did.
<v Speaker 1>Right, So yeah, and it would have done nothing for
<v Speaker 1>ten years, right, I mean, yeah, absolute useless to you
<v Speaker 1>unless you were the ultra nerd who could actually, you know,
<v Speaker 1>break into your school's computer and change your grades, change
<v Speaker 1>into pencil.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, okay, before we get into final judgment.
<v Speaker 1>Okay.
<v Speaker 3>Something I found interesting is that Weird Science and Real
<v Speaker 3>Genius competed head to head at the box office. They
<v Speaker 3>were released within a week of each other.
<v Speaker 1>Nice. Yeah, so pretty good matchup, I think. Heck yeah,
<v Speaker 1>absolutely a couple of songs that we just got to
<v Speaker 1>touch on real quick, okay, and they were big songs.
<v Speaker 1>And I say Big One was big and is still
<v Speaker 1>big like we and so throw back to our cheers
<v Speaker 1>for Fears songs from the Big Chair episode. We have
<v Speaker 1>the end scene credits roll and we've got Everybody Wants.
<v Speaker 3>To Rule the World playing magical.
<v Speaker 1>My kids love this song. You know, this is a
<v Speaker 1>song that has definitely stid the test of time. And
<v Speaker 1>then for Weird Science we have Oingo Boingo and Danny
<v Speaker 1>Elfman with like his I mean, this is really before
<v Speaker 1>he became the composer, Danny Elfman, he's still with Oingo Boingo,
<v Speaker 1>but John Hughes hits him upbout He's like, hey, I
<v Speaker 1>w should write a song for this, and literally driving
<v Speaker 1>home within a couple of days, he like comes to him,
<v Speaker 1>runs home, plays it and that's that's the song. And
<v Speaker 1>I gotta tell you you heard me singing it when
<v Speaker 1>I come up the stairs. Every time I'm watching this movie,
<v Speaker 1>that song gets freaking stuck in my head. It's a
<v Speaker 1>great tune that I think kind of also stands the
<v Speaker 1>test of time. But it it only made it up
<v Speaker 1>to like forty five. But that's Wingo Boyn's biggest hit.
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, absolutely, I've got something for you on this.
<v Speaker 1>Now.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know a lot about the legal details of it,
<v Speaker 3>but the mall scene where Lisa is walking around and
<v Speaker 3>she's like driving the bullies crazy with her crazy good
<v Speaker 3>looks whatever, and you know you have these underwear and
<v Speaker 3>barbed wire, right, So in that music montage for like years,
<v Speaker 3>when I saw it, pretty Woman by Van Halen was
<v Speaker 3>playing in that spot.
<v Speaker 1>In the movie. Oh, I kind of remember that.
<v Speaker 3>If you were, I mean, if you're of our generation
<v Speaker 3>and you watched it on HBO, pretty Woman was playing.
<v Speaker 1>But it's not. It's the Weird Science song.
<v Speaker 3>Now, weird Science, that's right.
<v Speaker 1>Interesting must have lost the rights somehow. I don't know
<v Speaker 1>how that works.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, once we've talked before about how like
<v Speaker 3>people movies and music didn't they didn't realize what big
<v Speaker 3>business it was, you.
<v Speaker 1>Know, sure, and and I mean in contracts back in
<v Speaker 1>the eighties there would have been no mention of something
<v Speaker 1>that had the concept of streaming service or or digital
<v Speaker 1>disc even possibly sure. So yeah, so when you make
<v Speaker 1>a good deal like hey, we can use this for
<v Speaker 1>any of these mediums, and then they're like, well, you're
<v Speaker 1>streaming it on Netflix. It's no longer that medium anymore.
<v Speaker 1>And so no, we're not gonna let you use our
<v Speaker 1>song unless you pay us a bunch of money. And
<v Speaker 1>they're like, screw you, we got our own song, right
<v Speaker 1>something like that.
<v Speaker 3>By the way, I just wanted to before we got
<v Speaker 3>off that subject, go back to our Tears for Fears episode.
<v Speaker 3>That song makes that moment so enjoyable.
<v Speaker 1>You know.
<v Speaker 3>Anyway, we're moving towards file and judgment, But.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, why don't you go first? Okay, So this is
<v Speaker 1>this is a genuinely hard decision for me, Okay, because
<v Speaker 1>I love, love, love both of these movies. And Weird
<v Speaker 1>Science is the biggest departure from the John Hughes standard
<v Speaker 1>canon of any movie that he made at that time. Right,
<v Speaker 1>It just it's wacky, wacky. It's that you know, weird,
<v Speaker 1>magical things that are unexplained non things, you know, and
<v Speaker 1>so I I had some reservations about it because of
<v Speaker 1>just how weird appropriately titled it was weird. Yeah, and
<v Speaker 1>Real Genius is genius, like it's funny and really smart,
<v Speaker 1>like they're they're spouting science that is real. Martha Coolidge
<v Speaker 1>did months of research to try to be as accurate
<v Speaker 1>as she could about the lasers and the CIA operatives
<v Speaker 1>and how Caltech students operated in all of this stuff.
<v Speaker 1>But ultimately, very simply, I'm making my decision on the
<v Speaker 1>laugh meter, okay. And I watched these movies one right
<v Speaker 1>after the other. Watch Real Genius, then I watched Weird Science,
<v Speaker 1>and the laugh meter for Weird Science was substantially higher
<v Speaker 1>than for Real Genius. And so because the laugh meter
<v Speaker 1>has to win out, I gotta I gotta pick a
<v Speaker 1>winner somehow, right and the other all respects. These are
<v Speaker 1>head neck to neck, nose to nose had a head
<v Speaker 1>awesome movies, But the one that wins the day for
<v Speaker 1>me is Weird Science because it's just funnier.
<v Speaker 3>I can't really disagree with you like Chet's character every
<v Speaker 3>single time, and I've seen this movie one hundred times. Cut,
<v Speaker 3>I mean just I just bust up laughing every time
<v Speaker 3>he's on the screen. You know, for me, it's almost
<v Speaker 3>the exact opposite what you said. So when I watch
<v Speaker 3>Weird Science, the absurdity takes me out of it a
<v Speaker 3>little bit. The poop monster, you know, is funny. It's
<v Speaker 3>all that is crazy, goofy funny stuff. You know, the
<v Speaker 3>dog on the ceiling, you know, the pink skies, all
<v Speaker 3>the absurdity of it. Is it fun?
<v Speaker 1>Yes? Do I laugh all the time? Yes? I love it.
<v Speaker 3>And it's a clearly a teenage boy fantasy. But for me,
<v Speaker 3>I enjoy real genius due to the cleverness and the
<v Speaker 3>smartness of it, which I know you do too, and
<v Speaker 3>it's just by a nose.
<v Speaker 1>But if I'm walking out the.
<v Speaker 3>Door, I've got one DVD I need to grab and
<v Speaker 3>I want to spend the weekend with it.
<v Speaker 1>For me, it's real genius. I can't fault you. Yeah, well, guys,
<v Speaker 1>tell us what you think. Which movie do you pick?
<v Speaker 1>Is it the weird or is it the genius? Because
<v Speaker 1>that's basically what it seemed to come now to right
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