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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everybody, Welcome to Game Mess Mornings with Me Jeff Grub,
<v Speaker 1>your host from giant bomb dot com. Thank you for
<v Speaker 1>tuning in. In this episode, we're gonna be talking about
<v Speaker 1>how the launch is going for one of the biggest
<v Speaker 1>releases of the year, and the downsides of one of
<v Speaker 1>Switch two's new features. It's gonna be a good one
<v Speaker 1>because we have Ben Hansen on the show. Ben, how
<v Speaker 1>are you doing?
<v Speaker 2>Hello? Thank you for having me on the show. Big fan,
<v Speaker 2>longtime fan here, Happy to you boys.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm glad we could make it happen. Thanks for
<v Speaker 1>reaching out. It's like, Oh, it's one of those things
<v Speaker 1>where I'm like, I'm on East Coast time, so anyone
<v Speaker 1>in a time zone before me, I'm like, is that
<v Speaker 1>too early for them? And you're you're a parent, so
<v Speaker 1>it's not it's definitely not right. Yeah, you're up and
<v Speaker 1>ad them pretty early.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they can do the show at six thirty in
<v Speaker 2>the morning and I'd be exactly, I'd be just fine.
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I think I have pangs of sympathy every
<v Speaker 2>once in a while for thinking of the people who
<v Speaker 2>are like whoor who is sprinting in the industry and
<v Speaker 2>like a Jeff Grubb, who's scrambling to get guests for
<v Speaker 2>this podcast all the time. It's like I see it
<v Speaker 2>every once in a while and I have this longing
<v Speaker 2>in my heart. I'm like, I want to be a
<v Speaker 2>guest on that. I want to talk more gaming news.
<v Speaker 2>And so I'm glad we're able to connect the dots here.
<v Speaker 3>Man.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I know you like I've heard from like
<v Speaker 1>your community of like, oh, I love Bannon to do
<v Speaker 1>a show like this. You're too busy to do something
<v Speaker 1>like this. Let's just get you on here more often, right?
<v Speaker 2>That works for me. It's like I think people know
<v Speaker 2>it's a tall order. It's like it's a big thing
<v Speaker 2>to tackle. It's like, oh, just do a daily news show.
<v Speaker 2>It's like assuming that can consume your entire life, as
<v Speaker 2>you know very well, you know, and so it's like
<v Speaker 2>would that really be the most effective use of time?
<v Speaker 2>You know, there's always a debate at mid max of
<v Speaker 2>what should we do, which direction should we push in?
<v Speaker 2>And you think about, you know, as we continue to
<v Speaker 2>expand and you maybe bring on more people, it's like,
<v Speaker 2>what would be the most helpful thing. Do we bring
<v Speaker 2>on a newsperson and they do a news show every day.
<v Speaker 2>It kind of I don't know, no offense.
<v Speaker 3>To news people.
<v Speaker 2>It kind of busies up the feed maybe in a
<v Speaker 2>way that's like, is it detracting from the views from
<v Speaker 2>the other content then, But it's worth it because some
<v Speaker 2>stuff might break out. These are the pros and cons
<v Speaker 2>of news as I'm sure you know.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, absolutely, And you know I enjoyed doing it
<v Speaker 1>and got to a point where it's like, you know,
<v Speaker 1>you could kind of make it a well oiled machine
<v Speaker 1>at this point. Working with Jam makes it's super easy.
<v Speaker 1>But uh yeah, it's when when Mike takes over, he
<v Speaker 1>always tells me, He's like, that's that's a lot of work.
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh yeah, I guess I do. Just have
<v Speaker 1>to make a huge chunk of the hours in the
<v Speaker 1>morning dedicated to this every day. I don't really think
<v Speaker 1>about it, but that's just time gone. And you know,
<v Speaker 1>we don't get it back, so uh you know what
<v Speaker 1>we might get it back.
<v Speaker 2>We don't. We don't know what happens when we die.
<v Speaker 2>We might get all our time backcond.
<v Speaker 1>Point, Yeah, I'm just putting coins in the bucket and
<v Speaker 1>I'll get that bucket back when I die. You think
<v Speaker 1>that's how it works. Which religion? Is that Zooism or something?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm not sure.
<v Speaker 2>Yea, I'll podcast about games when I'm dead. But there's
<v Speaker 2>there's something I don't everyone's want to think about. Like
<v Speaker 2>I listened to the Game Business Podcast, which a very
<v Speaker 2>good podcast out there, and I think about it, like,
<v Speaker 2>is it is it a rare breed of cat. Maybe
<v Speaker 2>I'm playing too much emogenics, but a rare breed of
<v Speaker 2>cat that's super into game news to this obsessive degree,
<v Speaker 2>Like it is it not as many people as we think.
<v Speaker 2>Most people are normal and rational, but there's something where
<v Speaker 2>it's like, it's fun to stay on top of this
<v Speaker 2>industry for as long as we have.
<v Speaker 3>At this point, to keep that ball rolling.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, it's it's definitely a targeted audience. And yeah,
<v Speaker 1>going to GDC, it was nice to hear several game
<v Speaker 1>developers being like, when I am driving to work in
<v Speaker 1>the morning, we're listening to the Game mess Mornings. It's like,
<v Speaker 1>that's okay, that actually is kind of what I was
<v Speaker 1>aiming for. So glad to hear that. That's the way
<v Speaker 1>it's it's panning out. You know, the show keeps growing
<v Speaker 1>so it's it's nice to see. Yeah, how are things
<v Speaker 1>going over at mid Max.
<v Speaker 2>It's going well, it's going well, yeah, it's you know,
<v Speaker 2>I was just on vacation for two weeks, which was delightful,
<v Speaker 2>going to Puerto Rico, and I just I love it
<v Speaker 2>down there.
<v Speaker 3>And at the same time, it's like getting to come back.
<v Speaker 2>What a privilege and like sit down and have like
<v Speaker 2>those days where it's like, oh, I have nothing scheduled
<v Speaker 2>for the back half of this day. I'm just gonna
<v Speaker 2>sit down and start to like map out the future
<v Speaker 2>of mid Max. Let's send a ton of emails, Let's
<v Speaker 2>make some connections happen, line up future interviews, and so
<v Speaker 2>it's in that fun kind of crouching down, ready to
<v Speaker 2>jump phase. But no, we just we had a fun
<v Speaker 2>guest on the mind Max Show podcast this week where
<v Speaker 2>we had Eric Woolpoh from Valve, writer of Portal and
<v Speaker 2>so many other things and stuff psych co writer and stuff.
<v Speaker 2>So it's fun to have him on because we were
<v Speaker 2>talking about we had this series at mid Max, which
<v Speaker 2>we're lining up more of right now, called Midmax Spotlight,
<v Speaker 2>where we go out and like visit developers and stuff
<v Speaker 2>and actually visit a studio and do a quick tour
<v Speaker 2>and stuff, and so we were talking about making one
<v Speaker 2>of those with him of just like visiting his farm
<v Speaker 2>that he bought in West Virginia. That's like, that's a
<v Speaker 2>good video. There's a video that's just called like the
<v Speaker 2>farm that Portal bought, and then it's just Leo Vader
<v Speaker 2>and I like helping out on the farm, like genuinely
<v Speaker 2>helping out. I thought that'd be so fun, and he
<v Speaker 2>was very on board with it. But then he rightfully
<v Speaker 2>was like, you know, it feels too self serving. It
<v Speaker 2>feels too much like look at me and my farm.
<v Speaker 3>So I'm going to back right, which, yeah, I guess
<v Speaker 3>I understand.
<v Speaker 1>Like it actually end up being that, but I don't
<v Speaker 1>blame him for feeling that way. But of course it
<v Speaker 1>would end up being much more interesting than feeling like
<v Speaker 1>a self serving video for one developer, you would, it
<v Speaker 1>would just inherently be more interesting. Here's I do have
<v Speaker 1>a request for you along the lines of content like that. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure you're aware you might have been the
<v Speaker 1>person that told me about this. I want you to
<v Speaker 1>go to the Tim Sweeney Tree, the tree that he
<v Speaker 1>climbed in that video. And just let's do a whole
<v Speaker 1>documentary about him climbing that tree. That's what I want
<v Speaker 1>to see.
<v Speaker 3>Oh wouldn't that be nice?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we should actually secretly chop down that tree and
<v Speaker 2>then make chairs out of it or something and make
<v Speaker 2>the walking sticks and sell it. That's what Epic should
<v Speaker 2>be selling, Not these v bucks, not this nonsense out there.
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna be doing the Giant Bomb road trip soon.
<v Speaker 1>It's like, I want to like go down to the
<v Speaker 1>mall that Epic bought and see if we can go
<v Speaker 1>like sneak in there and see what's going on with
<v Speaker 1>that thing, because they bought that mall a couple of
<v Speaker 1>years ago and I haven't heard anything about it.
<v Speaker 2>This is this is what I want from the video industry,
<v Speaker 2>and maybe it exists out there, I'm not sure, but
<v Speaker 2>I want like reminders of all those news stories. Yeah
<v Speaker 2>it's the same, you know, I think world news, political
<v Speaker 2>news is the same. It is just everything moves so
<v Speaker 2>fast that I feel like a lunatic for being like,
<v Speaker 2>remember that news story that happened four years ago that
<v Speaker 2>yeah ever followed up on and like I don't know
<v Speaker 2>if that's an entire position or entire series is like,
<v Speaker 2>let's just follow up on old news stories. But is
<v Speaker 2>there some way I could just automate a newsfeed from
<v Speaker 2>like one year ago, five years ago, ten years ago,
<v Speaker 2>to just keep that fresh in my mind, that epic
<v Speaker 2>bottom All.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the way to do that is you just go chuck,
<v Speaker 1>make that tool on giant Bomb get to work. God,
<v Speaker 1>I'm sick. He's sick. Pathetic. All right, let's get into
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<v Speaker 1>morning mess with Witcher four and new IP at CD
<v Speaker 1>Project Red or just CD project gets fresh updates. Here's
<v Speaker 1>the latest from Eddie McCoo at GameSpot. Polish developer CD
<v Speaker 1>Project Red has announced that it's hired more than two
<v Speaker 1>hundred people in the past year and that the majority
<v Speaker 1>of the new high came aboard to work on specifically
<v Speaker 1>the Witcher four as part of CD Project's latest earning support.
<v Speaker 1>Joint CEO Michael Noahkowski said more than two hundred and
<v Speaker 1>twenty people joined the companies of various teams in the
<v Speaker 1>past year. Most of the new hires are now working
<v Speaker 1>on that Witcher four to quote help improve the quality
<v Speaker 1>and scale up the project, which that really does. It
<v Speaker 1>does feel like looking at the bar graph that they
<v Speaker 1>provided looks like they specifically are are scaling up. He said.
<v Speaker 1>The new staff will be working on solutions from the
<v Speaker 1>unreal Festech demo for the Witcher four and trying to
<v Speaker 1>implement these things across the entire game. I'm not a developer.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what that means. As of February twenty
<v Speaker 1>eighth this year, the Witcher four had five hundred, four
<v Speaker 1>hundred and ninety nine people working on it, which was
<v Speaker 1>up from four hundred and forty seven at the end
<v Speaker 1>of October twenty twenty five and four hundred and eleven. Basically,
<v Speaker 1>they have five hundred people working on this video game,
<v Speaker 1>which is going to be their next one. They did
<v Speaker 1>have more here. There's like around one hundred and sixty
<v Speaker 1>people working on Cyberpunk two, and then there's about twenty
<v Speaker 1>to thirty people working on their new IP, which is
<v Speaker 1>like Project had Are or something. I have it written
<v Speaker 1>down here, but yes, they they have a lot of
<v Speaker 1>a lot of irons in the fire, but they are
<v Speaker 1>intending to get Witcher four out soon and you can
<v Speaker 1>kind of feel that when they're like, hey, we have
<v Speaker 1>scaled up from around eight hundred and fifty total employees
<v Speaker 1>getting close up to nine hundred and fifty total employees.
<v Speaker 1>They're hiring, they're getting busy, ageah Whatcher four starting to
<v Speaker 1>feel a little bit more real? It is.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like you know, at the last Nvidia Community update
<v Speaker 2>thing that happened around GENDC, they showed off like some
<v Speaker 2>tree tech and it's like, oh, this is being using
<v Speaker 2>Witcher for and even just like flying through the forest
<v Speaker 2>of Witcher four. It's like, oh, okay, that's right. I
<v Speaker 2>need to remember to be excited about this game. This
<v Speaker 2>is gonna, yeah, look amazing when eventually comes out. But
<v Speaker 2>what a what a privilege to have a company just
<v Speaker 2>be like, here's the exact number of people working on
<v Speaker 2>these games. Compared to most I feel like, you know,
<v Speaker 2>Triple A Studios in the States at least, where they
<v Speaker 2>just say we're not comfortable sharing exact numbers, but around
<v Speaker 2>eight is the best we can get for number of
<v Speaker 2>workers on these things.
<v Speaker 1>You know. Yeah, this transparency is really cool. I think
<v Speaker 1>it is a byproduct of them being a publicly traded
<v Speaker 1>company in Poland, but whatever, I mean, regulations are cool
<v Speaker 1>sometimes and this is what we get from that. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it does sort of signify to us. Okay, yeah, we
<v Speaker 1>could pay attention to this and see just how much
<v Speaker 1>they are scaling up. You know, after Cyberpunk and the
<v Speaker 1>story there, they probably have learned a lot of lessons
<v Speaker 1>about what is required to get a good launch out
<v Speaker 1>of a major game like this. It feels like the
<v Speaker 1>studio has learned those lessons right and will apply them
<v Speaker 1>directly to Witcher.
<v Speaker 2>For I think so it's just so funny to think
<v Speaker 2>of what a disaster Cyberpunk was at launch and now
<v Speaker 2>it's just is the takeaway from Cyberpunk at this point
<v Speaker 2>for them being like mission accomplished, awesome, Like people in
<v Speaker 2>my life are still now picking up Cyberpunk, being like,
<v Speaker 2>why didn't somebody tell me about this? This is the
<v Speaker 2>best game ever, and it's like it's just been such
<v Speaker 2>a slow, amazing burn that. Yeah, hopefully they can go
<v Speaker 2>to the gate a little bit stronger this time. But
<v Speaker 2>I'm curious about like in the full breakdown, wha, weren't
<v Speaker 2>there rumors about them making a new expansion for which
<v Speaker 2>are three?
<v Speaker 3>Does that account for that?
<v Speaker 1>And there? Yeah, I do wonder about that. Yeah, there
<v Speaker 1>were there rumors or did they even say that. I
<v Speaker 1>guess it was a rumor, wasn't it. Yeah, I don't
<v Speaker 1>see that reflected here like necessarily. You know, I guess
<v Speaker 1>there's the other category and that's a smaller handful of
<v Speaker 1>people than the new IP by quite a margin, actually,
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I would think that that is probably maybe
<v Speaker 1>that's still the which your four team. Maybe that's part
<v Speaker 1>of it, like they're like part of that team. Is
<v Speaker 1>like getting up to speed on which your tech and
<v Speaker 1>or like what your lore or whatever whatever they need
<v Speaker 1>to get up to speed on.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know it'll be interesting, is if because talk
<v Speaker 2>about getting up to speed? It's weird to think of
<v Speaker 2>them going back to the old engine and right right,
<v Speaker 2>so is there some way they could do such a
<v Speaker 2>standalone expansion now of like would it be in the
<v Speaker 2>real engine? Would like launch a different engine if you
<v Speaker 2>centered up you know, like just it'd.
<v Speaker 1>Be hard to expand alone.
<v Speaker 2>We call it yeah, yeah, a little bit like a
<v Speaker 2>Miles Morales. I think that'd be kind of a cool idea,
<v Speaker 2>But I don't know how well they could convert what
<v Speaker 2>they had built into unreal if they're doing that, but.
<v Speaker 1>Paul Task, Yeah, I think so.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But I'm curious too about that. If you remember,
<v Speaker 2>there's that studio called Molasses Flood that made games like
<v Speaker 2>the Flame of the Flood and Drake Hollow, and then
<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty one, I think several or State Project
<v Speaker 2>bought them and they were based out of Boston, and
<v Speaker 2>now they've just kind of been absorbed into the studio.
<v Speaker 2>But they were making a multiplayer witch Er spinoff, which,
<v Speaker 2>based on that team's pedigree I would think would probably
<v Speaker 2>be like an isometric multiplayer thing. And now that that
<v Speaker 2>was called Project Serious, and now with it being merged
<v Speaker 2>and not being accounted for here, I'm curious if that's
<v Speaker 2>completely gone, if they just absorbed that into the Witch
<v Speaker 2>or four team as well, or what the.
<v Speaker 3>Status of it is. But I was curious to see
<v Speaker 3>what that was.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they were, I mean, like a lot of these studios,
<v Speaker 1>they often have more projects and then they begin to
<v Speaker 1>call them. They were doing what didn't they have a
<v Speaker 1>plans for, like a multiplayer cyberpunk thing, and that guy
<v Speaker 1>scrapped a few years back, and like, obviously I think
<v Speaker 1>they want to put their eggs in the basket where
<v Speaker 1>they expect to get the biggest return on investment. But yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, things have worked out for this studio.
<v Speaker 1>You mentioned it, people coming up to you telling you
<v Speaker 1>talking about Cyberpunk at this point. They said that as
<v Speaker 1>well in this public disclosure that sales were up this
<v Speaker 1>year and largely due to selling Cyberpunk. I bet a
<v Speaker 1>big part of that was, you know, switch to that,
<v Speaker 1>you know, launching the game on the card, entirely having
<v Speaker 1>it run well on the switch to being the standout
<v Speaker 1>third third party game at that time. They're probably, hey, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>we saw the we reaped those rewards, and it's helping
<v Speaker 1>us continue and it shows us just how much these
<v Speaker 1>games can live on the There was a time when
<v Speaker 1>catalog sales did not account for much of a publisher
<v Speaker 1>or developers like this, This is a big business, and
<v Speaker 1>now it's something that they can, you know, not rely on,
<v Speaker 1>but can sort of build into their model of if
<v Speaker 1>we put this much effort into this game, it's still
<v Speaker 1>going to be making us a significant amount of money five, six,
<v Speaker 1>seven years later. And it's not the only example of that,
<v Speaker 1>Skyrim being the most obvious one, and that one's maybe
<v Speaker 1>a bit egregious in how they've done it, but there's
<v Speaker 1>there's a way to sort of rely on these games
<v Speaker 1>making money for a long time, which gives me some
<v Speaker 1>confidence that, like, we can continue getting these big Triple
<v Speaker 1>A games in a world where the investors for these
<v Speaker 1>kinds of studios demand big live service things that are
<v Speaker 1>these lottery tickets that just make all the money in
<v Speaker 1>the world every year for ten years.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm curious if if City Project is factoring in
<v Speaker 2>the success of like cyberpunk edg Runner and like how
<v Speaker 2>that boosted the game again to have that successful show
<v Speaker 2>at that And it's like, but at the same time,
<v Speaker 2>it's like, are they going to get any drop of
<v Speaker 2>excitement from like the Witcher season nine starring a different
<v Speaker 2>actor once again?
<v Speaker 3>It just feels like a zero.
<v Speaker 2>And so like, I wonder if even at this point
<v Speaker 2>they're thinking about trying to sync up, could we do
<v Speaker 2>with Witcher animated show or something that would launch at
<v Speaker 2>that same time as what you're forward to kind of
<v Speaker 2>bake that bump in.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, that's definitely something that they are wondering
<v Speaker 1>for sure, because they were the poster child for getting
<v Speaker 1>success from a TV show on Netflix. That first Witcher
<v Speaker 1>season was the one that showed everyone in the in
<v Speaker 1>the industry, we need to be doing this. So they're
<v Speaker 1>well aware of that. Whether they're able to replicate that
<v Speaker 1>or rescue whatever whatever is happening with which you're on Netflix.
<v Speaker 1>They probably know that's a knot that's hard to untie,
<v Speaker 1>but I'm sure they're curious if they can do that.
<v Speaker 1>There was a Witcher animated show. Okay, yeah, people are
<v Speaker 1>saying there's a Witcher anime, so it's like they've already
<v Speaker 1>played they already played that card as well. Yeah. Liam
<v Speaker 1>Hemsworth is probably not doing them any favors. Yeah, that's
<v Speaker 1>not working all right. Let's uh, let's keep going here.
<v Speaker 1>Peerl Abyss has a huge launch on Steam with Crimson Desert,
<v Speaker 1>but it also gets mixed user reviews. So let's just
<v Speaker 1>hit a couple of the numbers here and then we'll
<v Speaker 1>talk about it. It peaked at two hundred and thirty
<v Speaker 1>nine thousand concurrent users on Steam yesterday. That's a Thursday,
<v Speaker 1>so the expectation as usual as it will be even
<v Speaker 1>higher on the weekend. That is, you know, a massive number.
<v Speaker 1>A couple of years ago, I remember Secro being like
<v Speaker 1>one of the first story times I noticed and wrote
<v Speaker 1>a story on like games Beat about you know, the
<v Speaker 1>concurrent numbers on Steam when it launched, and that had
<v Speaker 1>like eighty to ninety thousand, and that was really really
<v Speaker 1>really good. So and since then, more people are playing games.
<v Speaker 1>Steam grows all the time, so those you know, these
<v Speaker 1>launches have been bigger and bigger. This is enormous and
<v Speaker 1>it's despite you know, the the some of the reviews
<v Speaker 1>that were a little bit cooler than I think a
<v Speaker 1>lot of the built in pre bake fandom was expecting
<v Speaker 1>the people coming from TikTok, but they also just didn't
<v Speaker 1>care about that because they were they decided they were
<v Speaker 1>going to be into this game because of what they
<v Speaker 1>saw in those TikTok videos. Now, since launching it is,
<v Speaker 1>you know, we're seeing their user reviews and there's a
<v Speaker 1>lot of them dropping on Steam and it has sixty
<v Speaker 1>eight percent positive reviews, which is mixed. And I was saying,
<v Speaker 1>I was kind of expecting it to be like a
<v Speaker 1>soft positive just because you know, a game like this,
<v Speaker 1>it's huge. It's going to have technical issues. People are
<v Speaker 1>going to have problems running this game for whatever reason.
<v Speaker 1>That stuff will probably get a little bit more ironed
<v Speaker 1>out over time. It didn't seem like it was going
<v Speaker 1>to be a cyberpunk. Oh this game is falling apart
<v Speaker 1>at the seams. But it does have some technical issues.
<v Speaker 1>And that's definitely a lot of the reviews, but it's
<v Speaker 1>not all of them. Quite a few of the negative
<v Speaker 1>reviews are are talking about, hey, this game is not
<v Speaker 1>for me in the way I thought it was. It
<v Speaker 1>does feel like an MMO that has been turned into
<v Speaker 1>a single player game. So there is some like this
<v Speaker 1>is this what I was hoping for? And then there
<v Speaker 1>are still quite a few positive reviews. But I think
<v Speaker 1>this is reality setting in a little bit for this game.
<v Speaker 1>I wonder, man, you think it's gonna matter because it's
<v Speaker 1>so successful out of the gate.
<v Speaker 3>I am so confused about this.
<v Speaker 2>How TikTok you're saying I feel like the oldest man
<v Speaker 2>on earth for being like, is this the reason? Because
<v Speaker 2>in my mind, yes, it was like, oh, this game
<v Speaker 2>you would get trailers, everyone started a killee thing. It
<v Speaker 2>looked ambitious, all right, moving on, and then it was like,
<v Speaker 2>you know, listening to other friends per second podcast and
<v Speaker 2>skill up over there, He's like, oh, this is this
<v Speaker 2>is the most trafficked and hype I've seen from the
<v Speaker 2>community since elden Ring, like, wait, what Crimson Desert, what
<v Speaker 2>is happening?
<v Speaker 3>Yes, and TikTok is thet.
<v Speaker 1>It's TikTok and Instagram reels, Yeah, but it sounds like
<v Speaker 1>specifically TikTok. It was popping off in the way Eldering
<v Speaker 1>popped off after it came out. Before it came out,
<v Speaker 1>you know, people just hyping it up, and you know,
<v Speaker 1>and you know, we have Turbo Shawn over here that
<v Speaker 1>was kind of like talking to some of his friends
<v Speaker 1>and he was explaining to me, it's like there are
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people out there that are very strapped
<v Speaker 1>for cash, and they compare this to something like Resident
<v Speaker 1>Evil nine and that conversation about dollars per hour does
<v Speaker 1>it's just something that sticks in their crawl. And this
<v Speaker 1>game is promising the exact opposite, endless hours of content
<v Speaker 1>for the same price or similar price, And it just
<v Speaker 1>feels like this could be the everything game that the
<v Speaker 1>casual person does very much want. And it looks like
<v Speaker 1>the everything game that just looks beautiful and gorgeous, like
<v Speaker 1>a modern Triple A game. So it kind of fulfills
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the you know, the these fantasies about
<v Speaker 1>what you could get out of a video game, or
<v Speaker 1>at least it looks like it was going to do that.
<v Speaker 1>And I think for a lot of people, a big
<v Speaker 1>bucket of content, and especially if it looks pretty slick,
<v Speaker 1>is still more important than a very super well considered
<v Speaker 1>video game like a Resident Evil Requiem. But yeah, this
<v Speaker 1>thing was popping off because of social media, and yeah,
<v Speaker 1>we were seeing some pretty big numbers about people being
<v Speaker 1>interested in this, and that's just our community who is
<v Speaker 1>very tapped into just you know, not They're not on
<v Speaker 1>TikTok for the most part. So yeah, some excitement about
<v Speaker 1>this and that translated immediately into massive out of the
<v Speaker 1>gate sales.
<v Speaker 3>That that's amazing.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, now everyone's just complaining about the controls and trying
<v Speaker 2>to wrap their heads around, Okay, what actually is this game?
<v Speaker 2>If it's packed with everything? Is it a Jack of
<v Speaker 2>all trades Master of none? But it is the appeal
<v Speaker 2>in some ways, So yeah, so I spent some time
<v Speaker 2>with it.
<v Speaker 1>I'm jack of all you know, jack all trades, master
<v Speaker 1>of none is exactly how I would describe it. It
<v Speaker 1>u you know, and not finding the core fun and
<v Speaker 1>then branching off from there and instead just like you know,
<v Speaker 1>I got a bunch of branches, can I build a
<v Speaker 1>tree out of? That? Kind of is what they ended
<v Speaker 1>up doing here. And it's like, yeah, very much an
<v Speaker 1>anti Jeff games. So I'm continuing to look forward to
<v Speaker 1>other people who have varying opinions from mine, but as
<v Speaker 1>I play more of it, I continue to butt my
<v Speaker 1>head up against it pretty bad. Yeah, the core issue
<v Speaker 1>for me is moving the character around feels terrible, you know,
<v Speaker 1>other than that, Other than that, you know, and it's like,
<v Speaker 1>you know, people are like, oh, you had Frame gen
<v Speaker 1>turned on. It's like, yeah, I did. I had it
<v Speaker 1>turned off previously, and when I was doing that, the
<v Speaker 1>character still felt very sluggish. Combat has never felt too bad.
<v Speaker 1>Like that's okay, it's decent. It feels like Assassin's Creed.
<v Speaker 1>A lot of the game feels like Assassin's Creed actually,
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, even now, I try to turn off Frame
<v Speaker 1>Gen and the game crashes. So that's that's where I'm
<v Speaker 1>at with this thing. Yeah, I'm gonna keep playing it,
<v Speaker 1>but I do wonder like where the hype goes from here?
<v Speaker 1>Does does this thing carry this momentum forward? Are the
<v Speaker 1>people who were excited about it still talking about it
<v Speaker 1>in two weeks in a month, the way that we
<v Speaker 1>were about Element Ring. I really don't know.
<v Speaker 3>Ben, Yeah, I don't know either.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I know everybody's too laser locked into Steam
<v Speaker 2>Concurrent users and all that stuff.
<v Speaker 3>But I mean we've seen.
<v Speaker 2>It recently where numbers are very high and then it
<v Speaker 2>dropped off. But you know, with a game like this,
<v Speaker 2>people might stick around. But I'm rooting for success just
<v Speaker 2>so maybe we'll get more funding going into Doka V.
<v Speaker 2>The only game that really matters. You're on the planet
<v Speaker 2>Earth's Pearl of business, Doka V.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, that's the weird sort of Pokemon on a treadmill,
<v Speaker 1>like getting fed into a machine game. Right, yeah, it's
<v Speaker 1>got just like this game. That one also has every
<v Speaker 1>single feature possible, and I yeah they have guns? Right?
<v Speaker 1>Do they have guns in that one as well? I
<v Speaker 1>can't remember.
<v Speaker 2>It's been a long believe it or not, it's been
<v Speaker 2>like seven years or something.
<v Speaker 1>That stupid trailer has it? Really?
<v Speaker 2>No, I bet it's been five.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's still nuts. It feels like just it feels
<v Speaker 1>like just yesterday, Ben, I can while you're doing that
<v Speaker 1>also point out technical issues one of the things that
<v Speaker 1>could be contributing at least in some way to the
<v Speaker 1>mixed reviews. You know, yeah, mixed reviews on Steam as
<v Speaker 1>they call it. The game is not working on Intel
<v Speaker 1>Arc GPUs at all, just straight up doesn't work, and
<v Speaker 1>the studio is not being like, hold in there, we'll
<v Speaker 1>help you. They're saying, yeah, it's not gonna work, go
<v Speaker 1>get a refund. So that's it's kind of a little
<v Speaker 1>bit of a bad look. Although Intel Arc GPUs are
<v Speaker 1>by far third place, behind AMD, which is by far
<v Speaker 1>second place after Nvidia. Still though, that's you know, it's
<v Speaker 1>five to six percent of the audience, and that is
<v Speaker 1>going to hurt those numbers a little bit.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for sure, Hey, last time, I'll derail this podcast
<v Speaker 2>and drag things back.
<v Speaker 1>To Doka VI. But don't promise that.
<v Speaker 2>No. At Dice, I heard some developers talking and publishers talking,
<v Speaker 2>and we're like, well, of course this happens all the time,
<v Speaker 2>and I had never heard it, but it was seen
<v Speaker 2>as common sense.
<v Speaker 3>I'm curious if you've heard it as well about like, well.
<v Speaker 2>Of course, people just release trailers and there's no intention
<v Speaker 2>to making the game and the trailer is just a
<v Speaker 2>way to test the wishless Oh, Like, if a game
<v Speaker 2>gets wishless, then it's like, all right, let's actually put
<v Speaker 2>this game into production. And if it doesn't on the
<v Speaker 2>revealed trailer, then all right, it said forever like it's
<v Speaker 2>it seems absurd.
<v Speaker 3>But then it gets like, why wouldn't you do that?
<v Speaker 1>I guess that wouldn't say that. I mean, once you
<v Speaker 1>once you explained it like that, I'm surprised, but I'm
<v Speaker 1>but I'm like, why was I surprised? That makes a
<v Speaker 1>ton of sense. Like the Steam wishless thing is so crucial.
<v Speaker 1>There's a reason every developer talks about it, and every
<v Speaker 1>trailer does end with at it the Steam wish list,
<v Speaker 1>and uh, you know this is one of those games
<v Speaker 1>that did get a lot of Steam wish list and
<v Speaker 1>you know it was in the top two or three,
<v Speaker 1>and that was powering a lot of the excitement as well.
<v Speaker 1>So I guess if I were a studio, why wouldn't
<v Speaker 1>that be a strategy? That's a really interesting idea.
<v Speaker 3>And I guess you just need to burn trust.
<v Speaker 2>I guess with people just being like, hey, this game's
<v Speaker 2>coming up, never mind those game's coming never mind, and
<v Speaker 2>it's like it's still I think it's not when you.
<v Speaker 1>Could do all the time, right, it's got to be
<v Speaker 1>you got to like, it has to clear a bunch
<v Speaker 1>of other checks before you pull that card. Right at least,
<v Speaker 1>I would imagine you don't want to be the studio
<v Speaker 1>that has fifteen trailers or games that never had actually
<v Speaker 1>came out. That would be that would be troublesome one
<v Speaker 1>or two games where it's like, well no one cares,
<v Speaker 1>so like, you know, I we care about Dokave, of
<v Speaker 1>course we do. Does anyone else at this point? I
<v Speaker 1>don't know.
<v Speaker 2>It's hard to say, but I mean I could see
<v Speaker 2>that being in that arena. I mean, yeah, the trailer
<v Speaker 2>came out in November of twenty nineteen, and it's like
<v Speaker 2>they're probably just like, all right, let's just gage it
<v Speaker 2>and then okay, let's build up a team and actually
<v Speaker 2>try and make this thing now.
<v Speaker 1>Exactly all right, let's go ahead and take that break.
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<v Speaker 1>into the news. Switch to boost mode noticeably affects battery life.
<v Speaker 1>There is a post on Reddit that kind of just
<v Speaker 1>did a quick comparison for Doom twenty sixteen. Although they
<v Speaker 1>said Doom twenty nineteen and that there's some a due
<v Speaker 1>there's a Doom movie that came out in twenty I
<v Speaker 1>don't think that's what they're talking about. I think they
<v Speaker 1>meant Doom twenty sixteen. Anyway, they ran that a boat
<v Speaker 1>like on a switch to and they did it once
<v Speaker 1>with the boost mode turned on and once with the
<v Speaker 1>boost mode turned off. And as a reminder, this is
<v Speaker 1>the boost mode that enables Switch one games to run
<v Speaker 1>on the switch to as if they are running on
<v Speaker 1>a switch one in docked mode. I hope that's not
<v Speaker 1>too confusing. I think most people get it. There's a
<v Speaker 1>lot of benefits there, but one of the detriments is
<v Speaker 1>that the battery life for the switch to running twenty
<v Speaker 1>Doom twenty sixteen in boost mode it went from five
<v Speaker 1>hours and five minutes before to three hours and forty
<v Speaker 1>three minutes. This is one of the things they Nintendo
<v Speaker 1>did warn us about. It would affect battery life. I
<v Speaker 1>don't think that that is like the end of the world,
<v Speaker 1>but that's a pretty big percentage drop in battery life.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And do you think the idea is they wanted
<v Speaker 2>to delay this so they could get kind of launch impressions,
<v Speaker 2>launch reviews of the system out there, because if this
<v Speaker 2>launched this way, then everyone say all the battery sucks,
<v Speaker 2>and then maybe that would make some headlines, whereas now
<v Speaker 2>everyone's like, ah, whatever, we like to switch to Pucopia rules,
<v Speaker 2>let's move on.
<v Speaker 1>For Nintendo, it's it's always possible, because they are they
<v Speaker 1>consider every single thing like that when they launch something.
<v Speaker 1>I think it's probably more likely that they just really,
<v Speaker 1>we'll get around to that eventually. Engineers need to focus
<v Speaker 1>on this check mark and this check mark more, and
<v Speaker 1>that'll be a nice to have eventually. And it really,
<v Speaker 1>it really is a nice to have. It does improve
<v Speaker 1>quite a few of those games. But for Nintendo, obviously
<v Speaker 1>the priority was let's get a lot of switch to
<v Speaker 1>editions done first for a lot of these games, and
<v Speaker 1>then we'll worry about the leftovers. When when we're through
<v Speaker 1>the bulk of those. I mean, they're going to keep
<v Speaker 1>doing Nintendo switch to editions, but I think they expect
<v Speaker 1>diminishing returns on the effect of that. Starting with like
<v Speaker 1>Super Mario Brothers Wonder that you know that's getting its
<v Speaker 1>switched to edition, that'll that'll get a boost because of
<v Speaker 1>the Mario movie. I don't think it'll get such of
<v Speaker 1>a such a boost because of the switch to edition
<v Speaker 1>necessarily so on the Mario wonderfront.
<v Speaker 3>I finished that game. I had a fine time with it.
<v Speaker 2>The hype for that game, I feel like for people
<v Speaker 2>like read at launch reviews were it was over the moon,
<v Speaker 2>and I think you're in that arena of like being
<v Speaker 2>very plugged into the Mario scene. Am I just am
<v Speaker 2>I pissy about not loving that game as much as
<v Speaker 2>I thought I was going to based on the fact that, like,
<v Speaker 2>I feel like, over the years since it released, I
<v Speaker 2>have not heard a single person talk about it. I
<v Speaker 2>hear more people talk about Bowser's Fury than Mario Wonder.
<v Speaker 1>YEP. I do not think that you are wrong about
<v Speaker 1>the common sentiment. Now, I still really like that game
<v Speaker 1>because I think it's the punchiest controlling Mario platformer in
<v Speaker 1>a while, it just feels so good to run and jump,
<v Speaker 1>and that's a game. You know. Mario games are ones
<v Speaker 1>where I kind of play like light versions of speed
<v Speaker 1>running games where I'm just running really fast and like
<v Speaker 1>taking on every obstacle instantaneously and reacting really fast and
<v Speaker 1>trying to like rescue myself. And it has all these
<v Speaker 1>great texts for doing that. So it fit with how
<v Speaker 1>I play Mario games really well. Everyone I've talked to
<v Speaker 1>sounds like they kind of have a similar situation, whether
<v Speaker 1>it's you know, as you know as much as you do,
<v Speaker 1>or maybe just a little bit. They they tend to
<v Speaker 1>agree with your general sentiment there, So I don't think
<v Speaker 1>you're off base.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I do want to check it out. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>what was it called Welcome to Pedal Park?
<v Speaker 1>Should we? Yeah? Should we try to remember off the
<v Speaker 1>top of our headspin it's it's it's Super Mario Brothers
<v Speaker 1>wonderh Nintendo Switch to Edition plus Welcome to bell A
<v Speaker 1>Bell Parker. Yeah, that's what you got from Bella Bell Park,
<v Speaker 1>I think is what it is. Yeah, it's it's silly.
<v Speaker 1>It is the most absurd name that they've done for
<v Speaker 1>these Nintendo switch to editions, and they've had a lot
<v Speaker 1>of those absurd names. There was the one for Mario Party,
<v Speaker 1>Super Mario Party, Jamboree Plus. Yeah, Jamboree TV, Nintendo switch
<v Speaker 1>to Edition. Yeah, Nintendo's good at that.
<v Speaker 2>It's what a mess, But I mean that I am
<v Speaker 2>looking forward to going back to that game. I feel
<v Speaker 2>like I need to give it another.
<v Speaker 1>Due kind of.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, everyone's not talking about it, let's actually see how
<v Speaker 2>this thing holds up.
<v Speaker 1>Did you play any of the multiplayer like with friends
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that.
<v Speaker 3>No, I think it's just a single player affair.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so yeah, get on, get online, get some friends together,
<v Speaker 1>and play through just the regular platforming stages with four
<v Speaker 1>people that you're talking to. And that's that really makes
<v Speaker 1>the game single quite a bit more, especially even if
<v Speaker 1>I played it online, you know, Journey style, where it
<v Speaker 1>was just partnering, partnering me up with random people online.
<v Speaker 1>I really like that as well, because it was fun
<v Speaker 1>to be like, hey, I know where this thing is.
<v Speaker 1>This is like this character or this person I'm playing with.
<v Speaker 1>Their profile name is just mom, and i'say I want
<v Speaker 1>to help her out, Like, let's I'm going to go
<v Speaker 1>show you where this thing is follow me, and that
<v Speaker 1>really adds a lot to the connective tissue of that game.
<v Speaker 1>But as the amount of hype, I think, especially for
<v Speaker 1>like the Wonder Seeds, Yeah, I think that that stuff
<v Speaker 1>just didn't hit the way people were expecting it to.
<v Speaker 1>And even for me.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just think if you did, like a ranking
<v Speaker 2>of the best Mario games right when the game launched,
<v Speaker 2>for people that were reviewing it, you'd be very high.
<v Speaker 2>And if they redid it now, it'd be drastically different.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I do. I wonder where we'd end up online again.
<v Speaker 1>I really like it, But do I like it like
<v Speaker 1>in the way that I enjoy Super Mario Brothers three
<v Speaker 1>or Super Mario World. Probably not. Yeah. Uh okay, let's
<v Speaker 1>continue you here. Reinstated Subnautica two dev says Crafton's release
<v Speaker 1>date announcement was potentially damaging. This comes from Blair Marnell
<v Speaker 1>at GameSpot. Let's go ahead and read through some of
<v Speaker 1>this here. It's becoming a recurring theme. But the legal
<v Speaker 1>legal drama between the leaders of Subnautica two developer Unknown Worlds,
<v Speaker 1>and its parent company Crafton isn't over. Lawyers for the
<v Speaker 1>reinstated CEO, Ted Gill and founders Charlie Cleveland and Mac
<v Speaker 1>McGuire say Crafton set Subnautica two's early access release without
<v Speaker 1>consulting them. According to game File, shuts out to Steven Tatillo,
<v Speaker 1>everyone go get game File. It's a great newsletter. The
<v Speaker 1>legal team for Gil, Cleveland and McGuire filed a complaint
<v Speaker 1>with the court, alleging that Crafton's announcement potentially damaged quote
<v Speaker 1>the game and sowed additional confusion among the Subnautica community.
<v Speaker 1>The letter to the court goes on to note that
<v Speaker 1>Unknown World Studio had Steve Papoostis patas, I'm not I'm
<v Speaker 1>never gonna get that one right. What do you think?
<v Speaker 1>How do you think?
<v Speaker 3>I think? Papus? You know what's funny about.
<v Speaker 1>That, guys? What's what's funny about papuzzas.
<v Speaker 3>A couple things that are funny about Papoosa's.
<v Speaker 2>First of all, he was the head of Visceral and
<v Speaker 2>so I interviewed him when we did a cover story
<v Speaker 2>game Informer for Army of two, Devil's Cartel Everybody's favorite
<v Speaker 2>Visceral game, of course, but that was that was an
<v Speaker 2>interview where he insisted we have a saying around here
<v Speaker 2>and it's quad a all day's.
<v Speaker 1>Oh.
<v Speaker 2>But what's the other thing that's exciting about him is
<v Speaker 2>he's the bassist for the punk band No Use for
<v Speaker 2>a Name.
<v Speaker 1>What.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's really weird, man. It's like the least punk
<v Speaker 2>rock role he has in the world now right in theory,
<v Speaker 2>he has some cred uh.
<v Speaker 1>He's got a great legal team apparently as the Bassis.
<v Speaker 1>That's that's wild. Anyway, he said that that the people
<v Speaker 1>over at craft that have no authority to make the
<v Speaker 1>make this Subnautica too early release announcement because it came
<v Speaker 1>after Gil was reinstated to his CEO position following a
<v Speaker 1>recent ruling. It further contends that Crafton's announcement occurred without
<v Speaker 1>the quote significant marketing activity, fanfare, and community coordination that
<v Speaker 1>would have normally accompanied such news. The following filing. What
<v Speaker 1>also suggests that Crafton purposefully leaked the memo and later
<v Speaker 1>confirmed in defiance of the earlier court order. So, just
<v Speaker 1>as a reminder here, this is the situation where craft
<v Speaker 1>and CEO talked to his lawyers and said, hey, we
<v Speaker 1>acquired Unknown Worlds, and when we did that, we promised
<v Speaker 1>them two hundred and fifty million dollars in bonus payouts
<v Speaker 1>if when they released Subnautica to an early access it
<v Speaker 1>reaches a certain threshold. And I'm looking at these numbers, lawyers,
<v Speaker 1>it's going to reach that threshold. What can we do
<v Speaker 1>to not pay that two hundred and fifty million dollars
<v Speaker 1>because and he stopped to twirl his mustache and said,
<v Speaker 1>I'm evil And they were like, homie, you're stuck doing this.
<v Speaker 1>This is this is it, Like there's no way out.
<v Speaker 1>So he went to chat GPT and said, how can
<v Speaker 1>I get out of it? It gave him some ideas,
<v Speaker 1>some bad ideas. He took those to his lawyers and
<v Speaker 1>they're like, nope, no, God, please don't do that. He
<v Speaker 1>did it anyhow, that caused him to fire the the
<v Speaker 1>CEO of Unknown Worlds and delay the game and all
<v Speaker 1>this stuff, and he got sued and has to reinstate
<v Speaker 1>that CEO. And as part of reinstate reinstating the CEO
<v Speaker 1>of Unknown Worlds, it was it was just declared by
<v Speaker 1>the judge, Hey, you have to let them make the
<v Speaker 1>decisions about how to release this game. When they released
<v Speaker 1>this game, how to message it. It is up to them.
<v Speaker 1>And the first thing that they did. After that was
<v Speaker 1>at Crafton announced the release date of the game, apparently
<v Speaker 1>in defiance of what the studio wanted. So the hits
<v Speaker 1>keep on coming, Ben, what do you make of all this?
<v Speaker 2>It's it's like you're diving in the ocean trying to
<v Speaker 2>keep up with the story every time.
<v Speaker 3>Is so much going on?
<v Speaker 2>Like the part that I'm confused about is like, did
<v Speaker 2>he just tell his lawyers that he consulted with chet
<v Speaker 2>GPT or as part of the court drama here did
<v Speaker 2>they get like a history of his chet GPT searches
<v Speaker 2>and they saw him sneakily being like, how do I
<v Speaker 2>not pay human beings?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I remember, like early on, like when this story
<v Speaker 1>first broke, there's like there's rumors that he talked to
<v Speaker 1>chat GPT and that felt like before Discovery and all
<v Speaker 1>that stuff.
<v Speaker 2>So do you what, I don't understand how that gets
<v Speaker 2>out there.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know either, But I mean unless he was
<v Speaker 1>bragging about it, right, and that's the kind of thing
<v Speaker 1>that a guy like that would do of like, oh,
<v Speaker 1>don't worry, I talked to the AI and everyone knows
<v Speaker 1>that's flaw you know, faultless and we can't go wrong
<v Speaker 1>by listening to chat GPT it runs the world. Now,
<v Speaker 1>that's what these guys think. So I'm you know, I'm
<v Speaker 1>guessing I don't have any insight into that, but that
<v Speaker 1>would be that would be my guest based on the
<v Speaker 1>temperament of the people that we're talking about here.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is overwhelming and confusing, and the sad part is,
<v Speaker 2>like I love Sunautica, I'm looking forward to playing Samodica too.
<v Speaker 1>Wow.
<v Speaker 2>I feel like every time they poke their head up
<v Speaker 2>to be like, here are some features in Subnatica too,
<v Speaker 2>that's just drowned up by six other news stories about
<v Speaker 2>dipshits trying to keep millions of dollars.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, the good news for the people
<v Speaker 1>at Unknown worlds now is despite what you just described,
<v Speaker 1>which is happening. Uh, the noise is just lifting up
<v Speaker 1>this game and it feels like people want to buy
<v Speaker 1>it in defiance of Crafton. Uh you know, and Crafton's
<v Speaker 1>got a bad reputation at this point. As a reminder,
<v Speaker 1>they're the pubg people. That's not why they have a
<v Speaker 1>bad reputation. They have a bad reputation since because since
<v Speaker 1>then and since you know, working on the what was
<v Speaker 1>the the Space sci Fi's survival game.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the Glenscowfields one.
<v Speaker 1>The Glennscowfield game. Yes, either way, God, I got to
<v Speaker 1>look it up.
<v Speaker 2>I looked it up too long ago, I know, like
<v Speaker 2>the Dead Space successor what is that game?
<v Speaker 1>Callisto Protocol. Since then, they have like made no bones
<v Speaker 1>about it. They're like, we're an AI first company. We
<v Speaker 1>want to like replace a lot of our studio labor
<v Speaker 1>with AI. So they have a bad rip reputation with
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people are like that sounds like that.
<v Speaker 1>That sucks shit, we don't want that. And so they
<v Speaker 1>you know, that reputation is already making them the bad
<v Speaker 1>guys in Unknown World's now now the good guys and
<v Speaker 1>people are hearing, Hey, if we buy Subnoutica two, it's
<v Speaker 1>gonna hurt crafting because they have to pay these cool
<v Speaker 1>people two hundred and fifty million dollars the basis for
<v Speaker 1>a punk band. It's gonna get a lot of money.
<v Speaker 1>Let's let's go to work, everybody, let's go buy this game.
<v Speaker 1>So I think when this thing does launch, it just
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be one of those Slay the Spire two
<v Speaker 1>situations where it's like this indie game in early access launched,
<v Speaker 1>and look how many concurrent players it has on Steam right.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, the tiktoks are blowing up in the legal world. Hey,
<v Speaker 2>on the craft of note, did you follow the release
<v Speaker 2>of PUBG blind Spot at all earlier this year?
<v Speaker 3>Did you see that thing?
<v Speaker 1>No? I think I heard it mentioned once and then
<v Speaker 1>I was like, well, I couldn't care about anything less
<v Speaker 1>and I moved on with my life. What happened with
<v Speaker 1>PUBG blind Spot?
<v Speaker 2>It's a bit of a blind stuff for so did
<v Speaker 2>you are you PUBG guy?
<v Speaker 1>In general, I love PUBG. I still love PUBG to
<v Speaker 1>this day.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I do too, and I haven't played it in years,
<v Speaker 2>but in my heart I love PUBG And so I
<v Speaker 2>was curious about this, and it's like, it's an isometric
<v Speaker 2>game that's focusing a lot on kind of shadows, like
<v Speaker 2>wherever you're.
<v Speaker 1>Lou sight lines and stuff like that.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. Like you remember there's that stealth game that
<v Speaker 2>was shown off in the last State of Play that
<v Speaker 2>was kind of a similar thing of like isometric focusing
<v Speaker 2>a lot on that, and I've played it. I kind
<v Speaker 2>of like it. I know it's not cool to say,
<v Speaker 2>I kind of like this crafting game. But it's like,
<v Speaker 2>it's just it's fun to have like a leveling of
<v Speaker 2>the playing field because I'm like, you know, at this point,
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna get annihilated and pubg but like isometric shooter,
<v Speaker 2>like I can hold my own on this team based sure, Yeah, cool.
<v Speaker 1>It's it's a bunch of other dads playing in that game.
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, yeah, you're good to go. What is it
<v Speaker 1>is it? Is it on PCs on steams and mobile game? Yeah?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's I think it's free to play on PC here. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>but it's like I thought it was kind of cool,
<v Speaker 2>but it's just a weird anomaly that I think is
<v Speaker 2>just going to be washed away the tides of time.
<v Speaker 1>I want to check it out now, I'll take a look,
<v Speaker 1>all right, moving ahead, Fortnite. Let make sure I'm on
<v Speaker 1>the right one. Yeah, there we go, Fortnite adding Peak
<v Speaker 1>skins that will probably cost more than Peak itself. We're
<v Speaker 1>a weird upside down world that's just actually probably true.
<v Speaker 1>This is from Chris Copindio at GameSpot. Another popular indie
<v Speaker 1>title is crossing over with Fortnite with skins based on
<v Speaker 1>agro Crab and Landfall's social climbing game Peak coming to
<v Speaker 1>the Fortnite Shop this week. Agro Crab announced the collaboration
<v Speaker 1>in a YouTube short which shows four scouts from Peak
<v Speaker 1>with Fortnite character proportions. It looks like these scouts have
<v Speaker 1>grown taller after consuming so many berries and hot dogs.
<v Speaker 1>This video announces that the Peak Bundle releases on March
<v Speaker 1>twenty first. While the video does it include any pricing details,
<v Speaker 1>it's safe to predict that purchasing the Peak Bundle would
<v Speaker 1>cost more than buying Peak itself, which is only eight dollars.
<v Speaker 1>That's especially true with the price hike for Fortnite's in
<v Speaker 1>game currency v Bucks. As of the start of Chapter
<v Speaker 1>seven Season two, players have to shell out nine bucks
<v Speaker 1>for a hundred yeah, nine dollars for eight hundred v bucks,
<v Speaker 1>twenty three dollars for twenty four hundred v bucks, thirty
<v Speaker 1>seven dollars for forty five hundred v bucks, and ninety
<v Speaker 1>dollars for twelve thousand, five hundred v bucks. It's that
<v Speaker 1>one's also wild that aspect of it. It's like you
<v Speaker 1>could it's your fake currency, the idea that inflation happens
<v Speaker 1>on that side, and then you can also raise like
<v Speaker 1>that you know the cost of how much skin cost
<v Speaker 1>in v bucks, so you're getting us on both sides.
<v Speaker 1>Is the exact kind of thing that makes me scream,
<v Speaker 1>Please lean A Khan come back and do something about
<v Speaker 1>these people. It'd be nice.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, they got to pay the bills. What are
<v Speaker 3>you gonna do? You know, there's something lights off in that.
<v Speaker 1>Mall if they got to buy another mall. Yeah, yeah, mall.
<v Speaker 2>And you know, in the spirit of Peak, it's like
<v Speaker 2>thirty five hundred v bucks, that's really five thousand v
<v Speaker 2>bucks and five thousand v bucks it's really seventy five
<v Speaker 2>hundred v bucks forever that what was from that interview
<v Speaker 2>a while ago.
<v Speaker 1>The exact right, exactly. Yeah, but yeah, uh Peak skins. Sure,
<v Speaker 1>that makes a lot of sense. It is weird that
<v Speaker 1>the skins cost more than the game, right, It's just
<v Speaker 1>a weird thing.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, I agree.
<v Speaker 2>Also weird to think of the fact that Agrocrab is
<v Speaker 2>in the same office as Megacrit, the slatest fire developers.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, I saw that video of them being there
<v Speaker 1>when they were counting down to launch it. That was
<v Speaker 1>very cool.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, are therey other teams in that space? Is there
<v Speaker 2>something in the walls, something in the water over there,
<v Speaker 2>like that is a good office vibe for success these days.
<v Speaker 1>Yep. Absolutely. I mean, you know, obviously they're probably probably swapping,
<v Speaker 1>you know, best practices, and that's a big part of
<v Speaker 1>like launching a game on Steam is making sure you
<v Speaker 1>know all the tricks of the trade. But they also
<v Speaker 1>just made games that people really like, right, That's that's
<v Speaker 1>the real key, and it's impressive. I you know, we
<v Speaker 1>were we were in a world once where it's like
<v Speaker 1>a game like Peak, an indie game, you know, it
<v Speaker 1>crossover with all the other indie games, and Fortnite is
<v Speaker 1>is definitely one of those ones where it's like we
<v Speaker 1>want to have as many crossovers as possible. We've already
<v Speaker 1>done every major ip. They kind of have to start
<v Speaker 1>working with the things that maybe are a little bit
<v Speaker 1>less expected. But Peak is so big that this just
<v Speaker 1>makes sense and point.
<v Speaker 3>Right yep, keep crossing over.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I want to say why not you know, if
<v Speaker 2>it gives more exposure to Peak, Hey, that's a great thing.
<v Speaker 2>Cool move, But pricing is wonkyous.
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, hang on, hang on, oh.
<v Speaker 2>His mic has cut out, So I'm going to use
<v Speaker 2>this opportunity. Everybody to talk about Epic in general, specifically
<v Speaker 2>Harmonics chat. How do you think Harmonics is doing over
<v Speaker 2>there within the the hollowed halls of Epic. Every once
<v Speaker 2>in a while, I just want to get like a
<v Speaker 2>temperature check. I just want a meter to see, like
<v Speaker 2>all the former Harmonics developers, how happy they are at
<v Speaker 2>any point.
<v Speaker 1>You know.
<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm curious about. Oh, Jeff greb will be
<v Speaker 2>right back. People are saying they're doing bad not great.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, are people playing the music Rhythm game in there?
<v Speaker 2>I checked it out at launch and I thought it
<v Speaker 2>was all right, Hey, Jane, I assume we're.
<v Speaker 1>Still live, right, Yeah, We're still live? All right? Great.
<v Speaker 3>I can monologue of the Harmonics for a long time
<v Speaker 3>if you want.
<v Speaker 1>That'd be great, Thanks, Ben. Great. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>So I just read Blake Hester, friend of the Show,
<v Speaker 2>his book that he wrote called The Oral History of
<v Speaker 2>a Guitar Hero, Rock Band and the Music Game Boom,
<v Speaker 2>which is awesome just to have, like a book that
<v Speaker 2>walks through the entire history of Guitar Hero and rock
<v Speaker 2>band and specifically like the culture of Harmonics and then
<v Speaker 2>when Guitar Hero went over to Neversoft, how that culture
<v Speaker 2>was just drastically different, and the book makes it seem
<v Speaker 2>like never saw as much more kind of the hard
<v Speaker 2>drinking it's cool to be edgy crowd compared to Harmonics,
<v Speaker 2>which is all about the music, man and the art.
<v Speaker 3>Jeff Grebber, you alive.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is why I appreciate doing the show with you,
<v Speaker 1>and you could just handle things. When my goxer dies, look,
<v Speaker 1>I like, I still like the goxer, but it's time
<v Speaker 1>to find something new. Everybody. I tried to press my
<v Speaker 1>push to I'm gonna do it one more time because
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna need it. Let me see if it's gonna work.
<v Speaker 1>All right, Yeah, the mute button actually does work. Everybody there,
<v Speaker 1>we go, all right, let's get through the rest of
<v Speaker 1>the show before I shoot this thing. Destiny Too and
<v Speaker 1>Magic are gathering for a big in game collab. You
<v Speaker 1>can appreciate that headline from Jason Finelli over at game Spot.
<v Speaker 1>While many bunch of fans are focusing on the team's
<v Speaker 1>new extraction shooter, Marathon, it's flagship title, Destiny Too continues
<v Speaker 1>to add new features, cosmetics, and collaborations. Ben This is
<v Speaker 1>another one of those ones where yeah, this makes sense
<v Speaker 1>because Fortnite has shown you do need these collaborations to
<v Speaker 1>kind of get people excited, but a lot of other
<v Speaker 1>games have shown it's hard to do that if you're
<v Speaker 1>not Fortnite with everything Destiny has done it with Star
<v Speaker 1>Wars and a handful of things where it's like, we're
<v Speaker 1>gonna make this, make this work our way, but it's
<v Speaker 1>got to be a lot more work than Fortnite, which
<v Speaker 1>is just the McDonald's of like, hey, we can include
<v Speaker 1>anything in these happy meals, so them finding a partner
<v Speaker 1>like magically gathering to make that kind of collaboration make sense,
<v Speaker 1>and it's also one that should move the needle. It's like, Okay, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>you're working with a much shorter list of possible partners,
<v Speaker 1>but you are finding ones that people should get excited
<v Speaker 1>about and also won't be like that doesn't make sense
<v Speaker 1>in my destiny too, right.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I feel like magic.
<v Speaker 2>That tone could kind of work with space wizards, wizards
<v Speaker 2>that come from the moon. That feels like I'm magic
<v Speaker 2>type thing. But it made me think about just a
<v Speaker 2>vision of the future. We're like, you think marathons are
<v Speaker 2>going to struggle with collaborations because it's such a distinct
<v Speaker 2>tone that eventually when they do have the the RB's collaboration,
<v Speaker 2>people are gonna riot.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I do, but it's you know, they started that
<v Speaker 1>game a while ago, and you know, that is one
<v Speaker 1>of the things that caused the downfall of factions, the
<v Speaker 1>multiplayer aspect of the Last of Us part too. It's
<v Speaker 1>like I remember talking to some sources at the time
<v Speaker 1>and they were like, hey, we're we're going to go
<v Speaker 1>in there and look at this and uh. And it
<v Speaker 1>was people from from Bungee went in there and hey, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>you're you're gonna have to try to make this game
<v Speaker 1>work with a bunch of potential collaborations. Are you prepared
<v Speaker 1>for that? And no one at Naughty Dog really was.
<v Speaker 1>They're like, we we We'll just try some different kinds
<v Speaker 1>of skins from our universe. And even that was going
<v Speaker 1>to be a lot of work for them, that was
<v Speaker 1>the other side of it. It was just going to be
<v Speaker 1>a ton of labor to make those things. Uh. And
<v Speaker 1>it's like, yeah, if you can't do that, a game
<v Speaker 1>like this maybe does not stand as much of a
<v Speaker 1>chance to go up against something like Fortnite. So yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I think Marathon will have some struggles with that. They
<v Speaker 1>obviously are very creative to make it make sense in
<v Speaker 1>some cases, and we are talking about something that is
<v Speaker 1>probably years off for them, because it did kind of
<v Speaker 1>take years for Destiny to get to that point where
<v Speaker 1>they were like, Hey, we need to be monetizing the
<v Speaker 1>people who are most dedicated to us and giving them
<v Speaker 1>the stuff they're excited about. The Marathon will certainly get there.
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I do think it will struggle, but that's
<v Speaker 1>hey Marathon's defense. But like to the check mark, it's
<v Speaker 1>a forty dollars game. Still, Destiny has shifted to a
<v Speaker 1>free to play game, so they are a long way
<v Speaker 1>off from having to solve that. And the game seems
<v Speaker 1>like to me, I don't know. You tell me, Ben,
<v Speaker 1>like what you think based on the response from people,
<v Speaker 1>Marathon's found its footing and has established itself as a
<v Speaker 1>cool thing on its own, right, Yep.
<v Speaker 2>Yep, I think so, even if it's not a juggernaut,
<v Speaker 2>I think it's in my mind it's a success so far,
<v Speaker 2>even if people are zooming in on player acount numbers
<v Speaker 2>and all that stuff on Steam and obsessing about it. But
<v Speaker 2>I do want to know about magic the gathering about
<v Speaker 2>just like it feels like the last three years four
<v Speaker 2>years have just been like this should be analyzed for
<v Speaker 2>how to keep a property like that alive? And is
<v Speaker 2>it just like the crossovers with Final Fantasy and other
<v Speaker 2>stuff that is putting it over the map there.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, obviously that stuff is helping. Right. The Final
<v Speaker 1>Fantasy numbers we heard was, you know, when they launched
<v Speaker 1>that the biggest entertainment like weekend ever, it made more
<v Speaker 1>money than anything did, like two billion dollars in a
<v Speaker 1>day or two or something like that. Yes, it was
<v Speaker 1>bigger than any movie, bigger than any video game launch.
<v Speaker 1>That set just crushed. And so obviously that is helping.
<v Speaker 1>But to me, it's like the excitement comes from both
<v Speaker 1>sides of that Final Fantasy. People were into it magically,
<v Speaker 1>the Gathering people were into it, and so it's like,
<v Speaker 1>where's all this excitement for Magic the Gathering coming from?
<v Speaker 1>And it's just they, I don't know, they just are
<v Speaker 1>paying attention to that audience and nurturing it slowly but
<v Speaker 1>surely over time, and it's paid off for them. I
<v Speaker 1>bet people who are into it have much more in
<v Speaker 1>depth opinions about what that looks like and feels like.
<v Speaker 1>And I know there's always the contention between hey, do
<v Speaker 1>we like these collaborations with outside things as opposed to
<v Speaker 1>original Magic the gathering art, but they still do those
<v Speaker 1>as well.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, yeah, and it seemed like it was really
<v Speaker 2>well done. But it made me think of remember they
<v Speaker 2>made that Magic game that was on the cover of
<v Speaker 2>Game Informer called Magic Legends, those kind of like a
<v Speaker 2>Diablo like. Yeah, and it feels like that game just exploded.
<v Speaker 2>I don't even think it launched. I think they killed
<v Speaker 2>it off before it launched and pretend it never existed.
<v Speaker 2>But it seems like that was maybe the low point,
<v Speaker 2>and I feel like ever since that point in twenty
<v Speaker 2>twenty one, Magic has just been on this upward climb
<v Speaker 2>that's really commendable.
<v Speaker 1>All right, last couple of stories here. Jim Carrey is
<v Speaker 1>back for Sonic the Hedgehog four with big stars in tow.
<v Speaker 1>This is also from Chris Copindio over at GameSpot. As
<v Speaker 1>the live action Sonic the Four movie ramps up production,
<v Speaker 1>we finally have official confirmation that Jim Carrey, among other stuff,
<v Speaker 1>is returning to the franchise, and he'll be joined by
<v Speaker 1>other prolific Hollywood actors new to the series. Per Variety,
<v Speaker 1>Carrie will don the mustache and goggles yet again as
<v Speaker 1>doctor Robotnikty. Variety also reported that Idris Elba whose knuckles,
<v Speaker 1>Keanu Reeves who is Shadow, Colleen O'Shaughnessy who is tails,
<v Speaker 1>James Martis mars Martsen Marsden who is a human, Tika
<v Speaker 1>Sumpter who is I think also a human being, and
<v Speaker 1>Lee Madge Dube who is the Agent Stone character. They're
<v Speaker 1>all returning. Additionally, Ben Kingsley and Nick Offerman are offering
<v Speaker 1>their voices as well to characters sounds like animated characters.
<v Speaker 1>Matt Barry and richer iod Ayoade also joined the cast,
<v Speaker 1>and then Ben Schwartz of course is back as Sonic
<v Speaker 1>and Kristen bell is Amy Rose. So we did get
<v Speaker 1>Ben Kingsley and Nick Offerman as as confirmed in the movie,
<v Speaker 1>but we don't know who they're voicing. People are saying
<v Speaker 1>nick Offerman might be playing Big the Cat. I love that.
<v Speaker 1>That makes a ton of sense.
<v Speaker 2>I think that's a very cozy voice for Big the Cat.
<v Speaker 2>Where did you go?
<v Speaker 3>I can hear his voice saying it now.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Kingsley probably rouged the bat.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I right, No one else has the
<v Speaker 1>the you know, the gravitas to pull that off.
<v Speaker 3>I think so. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>By the way, still amazing that this feels like I
<v Speaker 2>don't think it was a good idea, but I do,
<v Speaker 2>but that they let the Tails voice actor have that
<v Speaker 2>role when they're shoving just Hollywood talent everywhere else and
<v Speaker 2>they're like, you know what we'll do a we'll throw
<v Speaker 2>your bone here you go, Tails voice actor. You can't
<v Speaker 2>be top Like good get for her that she's locking
<v Speaker 2>that down.
<v Speaker 1>It shows like, you know, you know, we hear about
<v Speaker 1>the Nintendo working on its movies and Mia motos like
<v Speaker 1>deeply involved in all this stuff. We don't necessarily hear
<v Speaker 1>that same sort of thing about Sega's collaboration with with
<v Speaker 1>these films. But it does sound like the people making
<v Speaker 1>the Sonic movies are tapped in enough to know that
<v Speaker 1>that was a very smart and cool move. Like they
<v Speaker 1>have all the star power the way that these movies
<v Speaker 1>have needed since you know, Robin Williams was in Aladdin
<v Speaker 1>as the Genie, right, you got to have that star
<v Speaker 1>power at least in the opinion of the people who
<v Speaker 1>produce those films. And they have that, and they have
<v Speaker 1>enough so to be like Okay, can we you know,
<v Speaker 1>like you said, throw a bone to not just the
<v Speaker 1>voice actor, but to the community that really knows this actor. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>that it just feels it shows a keen sense of
<v Speaker 1>awareness of how to like please this audience. And I'm
<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of a big fan of these movies now,
<v Speaker 1>especially after Sonic three out. That is such a fun movie.
<v Speaker 1>If they can keep that energy going, I will be
<v Speaker 1>showing up for them continuously.
<v Speaker 2>I they're great playing movies. I've enjoyed watching all of them.
<v Speaker 2>I do have this feeling where they get so much
<v Speaker 2>praise that I'm always wanted to come in a little
<v Speaker 2>bit like does does anybody care about James Marsen and
<v Speaker 2>his girlfriend? Like that entire storyline is like a big
<v Speaker 2>chunk of all these movies.
<v Speaker 3>No one likes looking at it.
<v Speaker 1>It's it's it's bad. It's like it's almost like, uh,
<v Speaker 1>it shows how how good the rest of the movie
<v Speaker 1>is by comparison when you get to those spots.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for me, it's all about Jim Carrey doing the
<v Speaker 1>cool dance moves and stuff like that. He really nailed
<v Speaker 1>it and signed.
<v Speaker 2>What you said to me. The Sonic movie is good
<v Speaker 2>because Jim Carrey does dance.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it is. It's it's wild. What makes those
<v Speaker 1>movies actually tick? It's yeah.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you have this thought too, but like,
<v Speaker 2>I think the action in those movies is really well done,
<v Speaker 2>especially in the third one, Like the choreography is like
<v Speaker 2>this is this is great. And I have the same
<v Speaker 2>thought when I'm watching the trailers for the Mario movie,
<v Speaker 2>the Mario Galaxy Movie, where there's a part of me
<v Speaker 2>that feels like, are we going too hard and making
<v Speaker 2>these kid kids movies action movies? Like the choreography from
<v Speaker 2>like the fight scenes in the Mario Galaxy movie looks
<v Speaker 2>like the Matrix five. I'm like, what is going on here?
<v Speaker 2>It's almost like too much effort is being put into it.
<v Speaker 2>But I guess I'm not complaining.
<v Speaker 1>It's yeah, it's almost like the people making, you know,
<v Speaker 1>doing that work can't help themselves because they probably all
<v Speaker 1>come from that world of making Marvel action movies and
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. So yeah, that's a big part of it. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking forward to it. I think the Super Mario
<v Speaker 1>Galaxy movie looks like a lot of fun. I'm gonna
<v Speaker 1>show up day one for that and that's you know,
<v Speaker 1>I know what to expect from that one. I don't
<v Speaker 1>think it's gonna be as good as Sonic Three than
<v Speaker 1>the movie, but wow, yeah, I mean it's yeah. I'll
<v Speaker 1>watch Sonic three every every day if I could.
<v Speaker 2>Hey, you're you're a news sound right? You want to
<v Speaker 2>dive back in the shast again? What do you make
<v Speaker 2>of that weird leak? I'm trying to remember where it was.
<v Speaker 2>I think it was like on some merch that it
<v Speaker 2>was like, hey, oh, no, it was it was in
<v Speaker 2>an announcement from Illumination, like Beard in an email or something,
<v Speaker 2>right that the name of the next Mario movie was
<v Speaker 2>going to be Super Mario World.
<v Speaker 3>Do you remember that?
<v Speaker 2>I then I do, yeah, And then like two months later,
<v Speaker 2>it's like, it's Super Mario Galaxy. Wait, do you think
<v Speaker 2>they pivoted with the name of the movie.
<v Speaker 1>No, my my guess would be And I think we
<v Speaker 1>speculated about this at the time that the person putting
<v Speaker 1>together that press release is wasn't as tapped in as
<v Speaker 1>as we would think, you know, they like they might
<v Speaker 1>have just been like, hey, what what what what should
<v Speaker 1>I put down here? And someone's like, I don't know,
<v Speaker 1>it's probably gonna be is it super Mario World, maybe
<v Speaker 1>super Mario Galaxy and they just wrote down the first
<v Speaker 1>one that would be my guess. I don't think it was.
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it was.
<v Speaker 2>Uh.
<v Speaker 1>It came down from the people actually making those decisions
<v Speaker 1>and then they change their mind. I think it's something
<v Speaker 1>a lot more akin to a mistake.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, yeah, I'm just thinking about it more and
<v Speaker 2>more with it seems like, you know, the Pickman stuff
<v Speaker 2>you all talked.
<v Speaker 3>About on the BombCast this week.
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, if they are going more into that world
<v Speaker 2>of there's different dimensions, different worlds means different galaxies.
<v Speaker 1>Galaxy, Yeah, serves them so well for that right where
<v Speaker 1>it's like, now we can we could do the multiverse
<v Speaker 1>thing or just different planets, right hopefully. I hope it's
<v Speaker 1>not multiverse. I hope it's just there is a planet
<v Speaker 1>where where Fox McLeod lives and you know, his his
<v Speaker 1>spaceship shows up in the end credit scene and that's
<v Speaker 1>how they tease, uh, the you know, Smash Brothers movie.
<v Speaker 1>Mike said this, and I agreed with him. I hope
<v Speaker 1>that it takes a while to get to the Smash
<v Speaker 1>Brothers movie and they give all of these characters their
<v Speaker 1>own film first, so that there's a long build up.
<v Speaker 1>But do you think that's possible?
<v Speaker 2>Look, come on, man, Yeah, we got to sit down
<v Speaker 2>as adult nerds here we're saying we're happy that's our
<v Speaker 2>Fox is in a movie, but he needs his own
<v Speaker 2>movie before we get to Smash Meedy, are we? Come on, man,
<v Speaker 2>just we should be just celebrating and throwing popcorn at
<v Speaker 2>the screen like it's a chicken jockey that Fox McLoud
<v Speaker 2>might show up on a big screen, right.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, yep. And and you know they are gonna just
<v Speaker 1>rush to the Smash Brothers thing that's such a big name.
<v Speaker 1>The people at Illumination know that they would want to. Yep,
<v Speaker 1>they would. They would want to do it pretty quickly.
<v Speaker 2>And you talk about fight scenes. I mean, that's gonna
<v Speaker 2>be incredible. And I think like that. I understand though
<v Speaker 2>we don't want to rush to the Justice League thing,
<v Speaker 2>but I think there's something to that in terms of,
<v Speaker 2>like we want to I don't know, build up to
<v Speaker 2>that storyline, whereas like Smash Brothers, there's a magic hand
<v Speaker 2>that picks up toys and they fight each other like
<v Speaker 2>there's no story subspace a emissary. What does the story
<v Speaker 2>that you didn't really care about gravitas for that? Like
<v Speaker 2>the sooner we get to seeing a bunch of tender
<v Speaker 2>characters fighting on screen on a big screen. I'm honestly happier.
<v Speaker 2>I'm fine, yep, all right last day and you said yep,
<v Speaker 2>you mean Mike Binnatti is dead wrong and I'm dead right?
<v Speaker 3>Is that what that yick meant?
<v Speaker 1>Oh? Every time, every time? Ben, of course. So you
<v Speaker 1>just come on here and you should just burst into
<v Speaker 1>these calls sometimes and correct the record and put him
<v Speaker 1>in his place. That's what I need. Cana Bridge of
<v Speaker 1>the Bridge of Spirits, which is the first It's Cana,
<v Speaker 1>isn't it. Cana Bridge of Spirits hit switch on March
<v Speaker 1>twenty six, That is the first one that was confirmed
<v Speaker 1>by the e shop. I'm rushing through that because there
<v Speaker 1>is another story here that we want to hit real
<v Speaker 1>quick that just broke. Europe might be forcing Nintendo to
<v Speaker 1>revise the switch to According to the reporting at the
<v Speaker 1>Knee k, which is a Japanese news source, they might
<v Speaker 1>be forced by European regulations. And it wouldn't I guess
<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't just be Nintendo, but they're reporting the k
<v Speaker 1>and they're focusing on Nintendo, so the switch too might
<v Speaker 1>have to be redesigned to have a replaceable battery because
<v Speaker 1>of European regulations. I don't hate that. I love that,
<v Speaker 1>in fact, especially if it's like it would apply to
<v Speaker 1>the dual sense, right. You know, I spend a lot
<v Speaker 1>of money on these controllers, and I feel like I
<v Speaker 1>can notice the battery degradation very quickly, in a matter
<v Speaker 1>of months, not years, And it's always one of the
<v Speaker 1>reasons that you know, preferred is maybe strong, but I
<v Speaker 1>just I appreciate the Xbox controller having just hey, just
<v Speaker 1>put in double A batteries. I get some decent rechargeable
<v Speaker 1>double A batteries and that's worked well for me. Having
<v Speaker 1>having it replaceable is a huge, you know benefit, because
<v Speaker 1>these are expensive things and I want them to last forever.
<v Speaker 1>I want to be able to use these controllers twenty
<v Speaker 1>five years from now, and having to break it open
<v Speaker 1>to replace the lithium ion battery, well I might forget
<v Speaker 1>and that thing could bulge and cause problems. Yeah, this
<v Speaker 1>is this seems good to me.
<v Speaker 3>I think so.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean, the last time I tried to use
<v Speaker 2>my WU that game pad is just unusable of the battery.
<v Speaker 1>Point and you's got to be plugged in all the time. Yes, absolutely, yeah.
<v Speaker 2>And so the more customize a customizable options here, the better,
<v Speaker 2>I think.
<v Speaker 1>Yep yep uh. Project Cafe wints out. Switch pro controller
<v Speaker 1>lasts forever one of my favorite controllers. That's that's fair.
<v Speaker 1>The switch two pro controller I have is is kicking ass. Still,
<v Speaker 1>that's a good controller.
<v Speaker 2>Hey, do you ever you know we hear so much
<v Speaker 2>more battery life for all these things and talking about
<v Speaker 2>you know, boost moode battery life for all that stuff.
<v Speaker 2>How often are you really testing that out? Do you
<v Speaker 2>ever pull like a full wirecutter situation like I'm gonna
<v Speaker 2>run this so I can test it personally to see
<v Speaker 2>how long this is actually gonna go?
<v Speaker 1>No, I I you know, And even when I was
<v Speaker 1>like testing this stuff, I would always kind of go
<v Speaker 1>on real life situations. Want I want it to be,
<v Speaker 1>like did I notice poor battery life? Using it the
<v Speaker 1>way a human would use these things. That was kind
<v Speaker 1>of always my angle when I was doing like more
<v Speaker 1>hardware coverage, and so I kind of try to maintain
<v Speaker 1>that and it's I hey, with a dual sense, I
<v Speaker 1>do notice it. Yes, that is a problem for me.
<v Speaker 1>I will pick up that controller and more often than not,
<v Speaker 1>the battery will be dead. Despite the fact that I
<v Speaker 1>think the last time I used that, I played for
<v Speaker 1>like an hour and a half. What's going on there?
<v Speaker 1>And it's like, I think that is more useful. Well,
<v Speaker 1>it's useful in conjunction with the people that do the
<v Speaker 1>hard reviews and the scientific style reviews, and it's like, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I compare that up with my experience and that sounds
<v Speaker 1>right to me, and I think that's kind of how
<v Speaker 1>I would always look at it.
<v Speaker 3>Yep, I'm totally with you.
<v Speaker 1>All right, that does it for the headlines, everybody. We
<v Speaker 1>have a poll question from yesterday. Let's go ahead and
<v Speaker 1>hop over to that. I'm refreshing. Let's get the freshest results.
<v Speaker 1>This is from yesterday. Are you getting Crimson Desert? You know,
<v Speaker 1>this poll mostly happened after the reviews, So people who
<v Speaker 1>read the review said sixty one percent said no, they're
<v Speaker 1>not going to get it, fifteen percent said they don't
<v Speaker 1>know what that is, like what is that? And then
<v Speaker 1>twenty three percent said yes. So you know, nearly a
<v Speaker 1>quarter of the audience they are like, hey, I'm in
<v Speaker 1>for it now. Of course, of course a lot of
<v Speaker 1>those people could be saying yes when it's on sale,
<v Speaker 1>but still any sort of intent to buy, that's a
<v Speaker 1>pretty big number. You know. This game could still just
<v Speaker 1>you know, peel away from this moment where it's already
<v Speaker 1>doing very successful and take over the world. Still, I
<v Speaker 1>do wonder what the conversation will be like around it
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the year. Ben, I don't know
<v Speaker 1>what you expect that.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's going to be Gody territory.
<v Speaker 2>It just it has that weird ground swell. I don't know, God,
<v Speaker 2>what am I blanking on? What was the European Game
<v Speaker 2>and the fifteen hundreds from last year?
<v Speaker 3>King You Come Deliverance, right, Oh.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, King comes a little last It just kind of like, oh,
<v Speaker 2>it feels like there is a groundswell that I'm not
<v Speaker 2>tapped into that is all on board for this, you know,
<v Speaker 2>And so it seems like it has that momentum without
<v Speaker 2>the the Game of.
<v Speaker 3>The Year contention at this point so far.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, I definitely think that's like this one will come
<v Speaker 1>in even kind of under King Kingdom Come Deliverance too.
<v Speaker 1>When it's all said and done. Yeah, all right, it's
<v Speaker 1>no new poll question today everybody, because we're gonna end
<v Speaker 1>up the week with the bomb twelve as always there.
<v Speaker 1>We'll get to that here in a second, So let's
<v Speaker 1>wrap up everything else. Then, why don't you tell people
<v Speaker 1>where they can find you on the internet. What's going
<v Speaker 1>on with men Max all that good stuff?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, mid Max it's a YouTube channel and podcast network.
<v Speaker 2>You can subscribe to min Max the mid Max Show
<v Speaker 2>on your favorite podcast app. Again, we had Eric Wolpof
<v Speaker 2>from Portal Fame just gushing about Slay the Spire two,
<v Speaker 2>So if you're into that those two things, then that
<v Speaker 2>podcast episode might be for you. But we also have
<v Speaker 2>pew pw Bang, which is our women led podcast.
<v Speaker 3>The new episode just dropped. It's all about this.
<v Speaker 1>The one podcast I still listen to. I do. I've
<v Speaker 1>been want to get a chance. I need more recommendations
<v Speaker 1>from you about podcasts listen to, But yeah, QP Bang
<v Speaker 1>is the one I don't miss.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's so fun.
<v Speaker 2>So they all bought PSPs and then we're playing it
<v Speaker 2>and the kind of unpack their experience and run down
<v Speaker 2>the history of the launch of the PSP and all
<v Speaker 2>that stuff, which is fun to hear, but on the
<v Speaker 2>on the podcast front, friends per second, very good.
<v Speaker 3>Into the eighth is my.
<v Speaker 1>Most I listened that because yes, I heard you recommend
<v Speaker 1>it once and I was listening to that whilst traveling
<v Speaker 1>the other day. Eleve into the eighth, Well there I go.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's fantastic.
<v Speaker 2>Otherwise, at Trivia Tower, we have our community video game
<v Speaker 2>trivia show. It's coming back on the thirty first of
<v Speaker 2>March on that Tuesday. So if you sport mid Max
<v Speaker 2>on Patreon and even the two dollars tier, you can
<v Speaker 2>compete in game trivia and win game codes and a
<v Speaker 2>whole bunch. More So, if you have fancy no one
<v Speaker 2>a thing or two about video games, this is your test.
<v Speaker 2>You know, maybe Clisto protocol will show up and then
<v Speaker 2>you can struggle to remember that name type of thing.
<v Speaker 1>That's one type of everybody. That's all you get. I
<v Speaker 1>actually don't know if that's the rules. That is the rule.
<v Speaker 1>All right, Let's see, Giant Bomb has some stuff happening today.
<v Speaker 1>In fact, I'll just click over on the Calendra. Sure
<v Speaker 1>I get it all. Let's see. Yeah, we're gonna be
<v Speaker 1>doing the uf UPF today is gonna be a co
<v Speaker 1>op play of Slave the Spire two. We have Bailey
<v Speaker 1>Meyers coming in to help us out. She knows her shit,
<v Speaker 1>so that's gonna be really helpful later this evening, everybody,
<v Speaker 1>it's I think this is the name, everybody. I think
<v Speaker 1>we got it. Jen woke up. I got a message
<v Speaker 1>on Discord. What would be I think Jance five thirty am.
<v Speaker 1>I think he shot out of bed, had this and
<v Speaker 1>Rando Discord to say launch Athon, the launch athon for
<v Speaker 1>Crimson Desert. It's gonna be happening at six pm Eastern,
<v Speaker 1>three pm Pacific today, everybody. Mike's gonna play the game
<v Speaker 1>for several several hours from the beginning, and I think,
<v Speaker 1>like a lot of you, I'm curious to see what
<v Speaker 1>he thinks. He comes at these games from a very
<v Speaker 1>different angle than I would. He's played a lot of MMOs.
<v Speaker 1>I think he's gonna have a lot more patience for
<v Speaker 1>stuff that I don't have the patience for. So I'm
<v Speaker 1>looking forward to see seeing what his early opinions are
<v Speaker 1>of that game. And we're all gonna be able to
<v Speaker 1>do that together here for the launch athon.
<v Speaker 2>Smart No, hang on, this is launch look is messy.
<v Speaker 2>I'm in the camp of just call everything a quick look.
<v Speaker 3>Why not? It doesn't mean any thing anymore.
<v Speaker 2>But launch it on. That implies like over four hours
<v Speaker 2>for the stream.
<v Speaker 1>Is that what he usually does over? Yes, he usually
<v Speaker 1>does about five hours.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that feels like a thought.
<v Speaker 3>That feels like a thought.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, yes, it's a long play through through the evening.
<v Speaker 1>And I don't think he's ever done less than four hours.
<v Speaker 1>Four hours might be the minimum he's done, but usually
<v Speaker 1>it's like five to six. All right, I think with
<v Speaker 1>all that out of the way, it's time for the
<v Speaker 1>bomb twelve. Everybody, these are the twelve games that really
<v Speaker 1>matter to people who are really playing video games this week.
<v Speaker 1>I have the results right here. In fact, I'm gonna
<v Speaker 1>go get to the list I sent to Jan as
<v Speaker 1>he puts it on the screen for you. Everybody, Let's
<v Speaker 1>go ahead and start with number twelve, which is Street
<v Speaker 1>Fighter six, getting that Alex bump, which I guess has
<v Speaker 1>also a lot of implications, but we'll just move on.
<v Speaker 1>Karen at number eleven, World of Warcraft Midnight at number ten.
<v Speaker 1>Number nine is Death Stranding two, Number eight is Monster
<v Speaker 1>h Her Stories three. Number seven is Crimson Desert. Number
<v Speaker 1>six is Esoteric EBB. Number five is Umu Musume. I
<v Speaker 1>think that's how I think that's how you're saying. Number
<v Speaker 1>four is Slay the Spire two, then three is Resident
<v Speaker 1>Evil Requiem, number two is Marathon, and number one still
<v Speaker 1>is Pokemon Pacopia. That deservedly so in my opinion, did
<v Speaker 1>you did you get into Pokopia of it at all? Yeah?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I need to spend more time with it, but
<v Speaker 2>I am loving it. It is making me so happy,
<v Speaker 2>and it's just that it's weird to just have like
<v Speaker 2>good funny writing from a post.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Game is so that we've never show our period.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the characters are all hilarious and I like spending
<v Speaker 1>time in that world. And uh yeah, I like any
<v Speaker 1>game that does make tasks feel cool and pleasurable. And
<v Speaker 1>then kind of is building you up to feeling good
<v Speaker 1>about taking on bigger things that maybe come from your
<v Speaker 1>own desire to be Like, I appreciate that you've taught
<v Speaker 1>me how to build a house, because now I think
<v Speaker 1>I want to go build a cool like seaside mansion
<v Speaker 1>of villa or something, and I have the skills to
<v Speaker 1>do that. There is an art to that that is
<v Speaker 1>just bremming in Pocopia, and I'm sure it was in
<v Speaker 1>Dragon Quest Builders, which I never played. All right, Hey,
<v Speaker 1>if you want to submit your game for the Bomb
<v Speaker 1>twelve for next week, you can do so. Go to
<v Speaker 1>giant bomb dot com. If you scroll down a little bit,
<v Speaker 1>you could see this week's Bomb twelve, which I'll update
<v Speaker 1>here very soon. And then on the left hand side
<v Speaker 1>there there's a vote here link. You click there, it
<v Speaker 1>takes you to a Google form submit your game and
<v Speaker 1>you can contribute to the Bomb twelve. We really appreciate
<v Speaker 1>everyone who does so. Every week it's about six hundred
<v Speaker 1>and or seven hundred people that do so, so thank you.
<v Speaker 1>Everyone really means a lot. All right, Ben, I think
<v Speaker 1>with all that out of the way, I gotta do this.
<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for hanging out with me today
<v Speaker 1>and talking about video games. Man, I really appreciate it.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's my pleasure. Appreciate it. Jumping on. I'm down
<v Speaker 3>for jumping on whatever I can.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's make it happen again soon. Thank you all
<v Speaker 1>for watching and listening. You are the best audience in gaming.
<v Speaker 1>Until next time, I have a good one. Take care
<v Speaker 1>of yourself. Goodbye.