C&R - NFL Week 15...Make You Go Hmm

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Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for listening to the Cadino and Rich podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday from five to seven Eastern to the four Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for Covino Rich at Fox sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app. It's like searching FSR. Oh hey, now hello ho, It's all go on star Happy happy Honkah. Man Smoking Robinson said, Rich, happy Chanuoka. I don't happy wish everyone a happy chanukah. I'm not even disrespecting. I say it respectfully. There is a funny viral moment from a few years ago where Smokey Robinson, who's in a lot of hot water bite right now. I don't know if you knew that he uh said happy chinooka everybody but happy honikah from your pals. Happy holidays, Cavino and Rich, hope you had a nice weekend. We be rocking out, lest go. The funniest part about the happy chinooka smoking Robinson back of the day, it's like has he never seen the word honika before? He was reading a cameo, like he was reading a script wishing somebody a happy honikah. Yeah, he never saw that spelling. Perhaps I don't know, but anyway, happy Honikah. I hope you had a Bill's Charger, Seahawks Rams, Rich's forty nine Ers sort of weekend. Hope all your team's won. We wrap week fifteen tonight Miami at the Steelers. We're gonna talk about it. Plus we might have a breakfast conversation. What is your breakfast of choice? We might get to that if we have time. Plus old man Rivers.

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Speaker 2: I hope it's a mount rushmore breakfast talking.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I know they're your favorite. Danny G by the way, super producer Danny G.

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Speaker 2: In or out?

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Speaker 1: In or out in er out? Yeah, Buyer. How do you feel as we kick off the show, we're gonna get to all the things that made you go hmmm? I was saying, you know, hit it out, things that made you go, things that make you go, things that make you go. Rich ain't wasting no time. How do you feel about rooting for the team that spoiled Philip Rivers beautiful possible sunday? I was on an island.

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Speaker 3: I do feel that, and I recognized it myself even during the show. It was such a great story at Philip Rivers didn't throw for four hundred yards yesterday, but anytime he completed a pass, the people that I worked with were jumping up and down with excitement. And now would have been great if the Seahawks could have been up by twenty one points, but that was not the case, which made the Philip River story even better.

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Speaker 1: It was a It was a tough one yesterday. Honestly, it was a nice battle. Congrats to your Seahawks. Dan Byer actually thought of you as the only like redeeming part of the victory for me because I was rooting for the old guest. I was like, everybody was, yeah, but at least Dan Byer's happy as Seahawks won. Seriously, I really was to take its a good team winning and it's more important, I guess of the league. But if anyone did what I did. You saw them kick a sixty yard field goal to go ahead. Philip Rivers pumping his fist, he's all fired up. I took a little wes break at that moment. I come back and the Seahawks take the lead. It was that quick, dude. It was what forty something seconds left when they took the lead, and then the Seahawks did it with like twenty seconds left, ended up winning the game. I was like, what the hell happened? Actually texted Danny g I was like, how did they score three points so fast? It really was that quick, So congrats and knowing you had to remind yourself and I couldn't be the only one that had to remember. Philip Rivers always had a throwing motion that looked like he was sort of pushing the ball a little bit. Because if you were unfamiliar with Philip Rivers. Maybe you're a younger kid, you might be like, man, he's really sort up like he doesn't have the most natural release, almost like as a baseball throw, almost like he's pushing it a little bit sure shot put, Yeah, he has a slight shot put. So the fact that he was forty four made it look like every throw he threw, well, there's a lot of it. There was some type of like a lot of thoughts about the Philip Rivers game. We'll get to, but I want to mention again. We're streaming live at YouTube dot com, slash at Covino and Rich FSR broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. You know, there was one play. I was watching the red zone and there was one play where he took the snap and and he backpedaled a few steps and fell and I was like, ooh, old guy moment. You know, we're watching very critically, right, instead of just watching and just observing, you're watching everything. You know, noice thinking he dropped back in the pocket. Yeah, I was like, if a Seahawks secks him hard. My analogy would be, have you ever played co ed softball and the girl that's batting like twelfth on their team rolls over a soft ground ball to you, and you almost feel guilty fielding it cleanly and thrown it first. You're like, God got her? Like, were you really proud of yourself? You're proud of yourself. We used to play softball Saturday mornings. I asked you not. There was an old veteran guy was in his eighties. I don't even know if he stole around, God bless him, but he would come out to the park and every so often they'd be like, hey, Mike, get in the batter's box. And this guy was in his early eighties, served in multiple wars, but he loved the game. So we would sort of stop the game, let the guy jump in, get a couple of swings. If you fielded a ball he hit, you sort of felt like an ass, like, oh, what a hot shot. He going to dive up the middle to rob an eighty year old guy. That's how I felt like. Anytime Philip Rivers faded back in the pocket, I like, oh, come on, but I mean he did, okay, break him in head. And you know what, speaking of old man Rivers, he looks slow. I think they should have won. They could have won, but he remains QB one against your forty nine ers on Monday Night football. That's the update there. That not be the coming out party right, No, So it was cool to see and fun to root for. The better team won. I think you know, I was surprised that their defense held your Seahawks. Yeah, they were very aggressive.

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Speaker 3: The Colts came out hitting Seahawks, still having trouble running the football and couldn't cash it in. That's why they needed six freaking field goals to be able to do it. The crazy thing is is when Rivers, the Rivers knows where to put the football and like you knew that right away. There was even a play where he missed Josh downs on because I think Downs just wasn't used to somebody knowing that the football should be there, because he kind of held up his arm and then it dropped off to his you know, just off to his right. Rivers had the ball where it needed to be. That could have been his second touchdown of the game and really could have put things out of reach. So everything that that the Colts had wanted, like I think from his from the mind wise, was completely there. It was just like the last throw that he threw that ended up being intercepted when you really had to throw it downfield. You lost some of the accuracy on that and that it ultimately ended their game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And even if he was were to complete that pass, there were four seconds left. Yeah, I mean he shot desperate, desperation moment, just throwing it out there. Props to him. It's like, I almost feel like I would almost argue, and I know some people feel this way a desperation interception. I almost feel like, should it count the same way? Of course it does, but it's like when NBA players don't want to throw a ball up full court, yeah, two seconds left, because then missing it just goes against their shit.

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Speaker 3: They changed it this year because of that. They stopped counting it against the stats because players were apprehensive to do it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you don't want to feel that way. But I'm a positive rich I better the better team did win. I give him all the props in the world. I love what he said after the game. How you know, he's human and he had his doubts and he was nervous, but he showed all those kids that he coaches and all the kids out there that you can't let your fears control you, and he did his best out there, and you know, I bet you he will play better next week. Some of those butterflies are gone. Even though he's done it for years, it's been a long time, and you know, how could he not be apprehensive? He hasn't done it on that level in five years. So, honestly, congratulations. I thought that was a really fun game to keep an eye on over the weekend. And now we turn it over to you and get you involved. Fox Sports Radio Nation. We do it every Monday again. Things that make you go Hm, eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. The rules are simple. There's no wrong answer. Here is any observation you made in well week fifteen NFL but anything UFC Fight Night, a movie you saw, a Christmas holiday special, The Beast in Me on Netflix. I'm watching that. It could be any observation that you made over the weekend, things that made you go Hm. Well, Estebon, I don't know if you're right about this. He says he thought he sort of spied Rivers wearing a Life Alert necklace under his jersey. I don't think that's that's not true. I don't think I don't think that's the case. I will say this, though, I've fallen and I can get at. I saw a list, and I did a little homework and I added to the list. Okay, I saw someone say, here's a couple of players that are Philip Rivers age that seem like they haven't played in the NFL in an eternity. I'm gonna list other players that were also born in nineteen eighty one. Allah, the age of Philip Rivers forty four years old. And you tell me if you feel like these players feel ancient in NFL years, right, Troy Polamalu. Yeah, he feels way old, you know, because he played for so long and when did he retire feels like so long ago. Here's a name that feels even older and his flowing locks are like great now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just gonna say, yeah, in his shampoo commercial, he's got the Sultan Gray.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's another guy on a name that was such a force in the NFL at some point. But to me, he feels so two thousands. Clinton Portis Clinton Portis is the same age as Philip Rivers. Wow, that is wild, dude. Eli Manning is the same age as Philip Rivers. Okay, you know what that one feels? Okay because I feel like but I remember them coming up right the trade revolved in the trade. Yeah, yeah, it makes it obvious. But in your mind though Eli hasn't. Can you imagine Eli playing right now?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: Right, that's what makes it cool? Yeah, Andre Johnson wide receive.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Wes Welker, damn, Yeah, that feels like a while ago to me. You see on TV all the time because he's so far into his second career, you know, Whylins, Oh wow, Nate, Yeah, Nate, great broadcaster. Feels like he's been out of the league for a minute. But back to Wes Welker, Like, I feel like I think of the early time Brady days, right, and even though he never really won with Brady, I remember partying with him rich And doesn't that feel like a lifetime ago because that's when he was on the Patriots. It feels like we were working with like Maxim and all those men's brands who were red carpets. So yeah, think about that, think about competing at the level he competed at. My wife was friends with his wife. Wes Welker, great family. Crazy. I'll give you one more that feels crazy, I'll give you one more. Sante Samuel his kids in the league now. So just to give perspective, I get it, everyone taps out at a different age. They tap out John Cena style, which, by the way, was something else that made you go from over the weekend right. It did, it really did. But these are all guys that are forty four. Just to show you what it really takes her a guy like Philip Rivers to be ready to go back out there, so props to him. He came up short. But again, I genuinely think what you saw Philip Rivers do is better than what some bootleg rando practice squad guy. You've never heard his name, but they're like, you know, Jimmy Tompkins who played in the USFL or XFL for a year out of Kansas Tech. I'm just making up so cool, Like if they just pulled some rando guy, I feel like Philip Rivers gave you more than what that guy could have given you. And we talked about Dan by the limited choices because of you know, the trade deadline has passed, so you're you're really just picking.

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Speaker 3: Also, think of it this way, maybe Riley Leonard throws for two hundred yards. But as the game script and how it all plans out, the way that the game really turns out for them to be able to hold out of the football, control the ball, make the throws that are needed, the defense does have to respect that Philip Rivers is going to throw the football where maybe Riley Leonard you're not. You're just so you're focusing on Jonathan Taylor, and they used Jonathan Taylor a lot yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Now, those first couple of drives, the cults, and Jonathan Taylor was getting a lot of yards per carrigause there were times where those drives kept going solely based on five yards, six yards, three yards, eight yards, four yards. I felt like they were just moving the ball with I felt like they had more reason to play behind Rivers though, you know, more excitement and more will to win, rallying behind him, the story, the old guy. He was getting everybody fired up. I'm not sure anyone else could have got them as fired up as he did.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was probably an emotional boost, and I think that the Seahawks defense also had to mind their p's and q's where Rivers there were just again I mentioned that throw to Josh Downs, there were other spots where he just like he knows the game, he knows where the football needs to be, so he's gonna put it at that point and as a defense. And it's no disrespect to Riley Leonard, but when you're a rookie in the NFL, you can't go up against for knowledge a guy who's about to be in the Hall of Fame or will be in another five years.

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Speaker 1: It's a good life lesson though rich It really is like to take that risk. LIFs of risk are now blood and blood up. There's so many moments in life where people that fear getting the way of their goals or a fear getting the way of their dreams. And he could have easily, and he said it in his speech, He easily just sat home and called it to day. But he tested himself and pushed himself and it was kind of cool. He didn't embarrass himself by any means. Could have won that game.

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Speaker 3: No, And I think that's an interesting point because Philip Rivers is going to be in the Hall of Fame. There's the numbers are there. But I think that there are people who will say, well, he never made it to a Super Bowl, never played in the Super Bowl, didn't win anything that.

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Speaker 1: Would question that. Do you think yesterday helped his candidacy? Agree to me, it makes me look like he loves the game of football and he has balls. And I know there's a on paper mean nothing, but in my mind, I look at Philip Rivers as a baller and a gamer, and he loves the game of football.

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Speaker 3: And look at what we're talking about, Like with Russell Wilson, were saying did he hurt his Hall of Fame candidacy by staying on too long and playing in all these spots and not doing as well? Like that was a legitimate discussion that was happening. This comeback in him just showing that he's so i'm moat capable of quarterbacking an NFL game with five years off, I think speaks to the type of player that he actually was.

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Speaker 1: Previously agreed and let's put this in perspective. I don't like to play Sunday softball because I want to remember myself as a good ballplayer. You had twenty seven home runs. I want to keep that legacy in that memory live in my brain from my own confidence. And he doesn't want to pop up the second and have some fifty five year old got catch a ball he hit. But you also don't want to put yourself in a vulnerable situation like this guy used to be good, right, he do all that out the window. I was like, I don't care. I'm gonna go out there and compete and do my best. You could, you could already a legendary NFL quarterback with a reputation with the Hall of Fame career, Like the thought of him failing and embarrassing in that moment did not stop him. So it really is a life lesson to all. So you could argue that and that there's victory. Mike Tyson to a younger kid, did that where you're telling your kid, your kid, there was no one more indestructible, and no one more fierce, and no one more honestly, no more dangerous than Mike Tyson and invincible in his prime. And your kids might be like, Dad, you mean the guy that Jake Paul Woopton. It's like, yeah, but that was like, you know, Philip Rivers put himself out there and it looked all right. Yeah, I really do applow that they spoil Can I even the flip though, something we talked about him when me and you Dan Bayer, Danergy, we also of brushed over it. Under any other circumstances, the story would be like, man, this Rudley Leonard kids getting a shot. I feel bad for him in a way because this is his shot to possibly show the world what he could do. And everyone's like, yeah, yeah, whatever, kid, we want to see the old guy. Yeah, but again eight and fourteen, right, and I feel you. They had to keep it going the best way they could. Eight and six now, I'm sorry eight and six now. So that's really why, in my opinion, you got to take your chance with that a guy who could lead and a guy who could, like Yer said, be a boost. Is chat powers available? That's from West and Idaho on the chat? Can I say this individual stats? This is from Chase nineteen eighty nine said individual stats play part of it, but it's not the only part. To back up Dan Buyer saying, you know Hall of Fame. Now you look at Philip Rivers as a guy that he didn't care. He just want to come back, even if it's for a few games, to prove that he could still compete. Yep, and you know what, Listen to what Philip River said after the game yesterday.

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Speaker 4: Grateful, I mean grateful running out from warm ups and all that, and I'm out there from anthem and as the game just got going, I was just thankful, grateful that.

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Speaker 2: I was out there.

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Speaker 4: And it was a blast. It was a blast. But obviously the emotion is now our disappointment, right, disappointment. You know, I'm this isn't about me. You know, we were on a team that is scrapping like crazy to trying to stay alive and get in the postseason. So obviously we're all disappointed.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, four competitors, that's like a dream come true. You think your time is done, you think you're over, and you get one more shot to show them what you got and to show yourself that you still got it. It's almost like a sitcom. It really like him or a movie, like him putting those pads on again that he never thought he would put on again. Well. I even saw Ryan Clark going off about how wrong this was, but he was saying, but don't get me wrong, I don't blame Philip Rivers because if someone gave me that opportunity, I would want to take it too, because no one wants to hang up the cleats. That's why Cam Newton was so mad about it, and he got that opportunity. Props to him. One hundred and twenty yards one touchdown. That last interception really shouldn't count, but it does. And aside from old man Rivers coming up short, Seahawks winning eighteen sixteen at the very very end of the game. I think the other storyline of the weekend was injuries, Like we lost a lot of big players this week. Well, injuries took their toll. But I think between the injuries comming out, I'm going back, I'm going to one up you. Yeah, because of the injuries and because of the great Philip Rivers almost story the best game of the week is like not even our lead, and that was Buffalo. Oh yeah, and Josh Allen's showing you that not so fast Patriots. They're of twenty four to seven Portnoy and only won nothing. Patriots fans everywhere making videos like what for real? It's going through Foxborough. Everyone's thinking that they did this. And then I remember I had a dip out and I came back and I put the game on in the living room, and I remember being like, oh, all right, they scored right out the second half, and I'm like, all right, now it's within. As they were coming back, I'm like, oh, there's momentum. If you believe a momentum. New England had lost it and that was such a performance. And right now, I'm gonna tell you they're not going to win the division because there's not enough time. But if you're the Buffalo Bills and you're a Buffalo Bills fan, you're looking at this as your super Bowl to win. I'm not convinced anyone else is that great. And Josh Allen if he could deliver a whole game like that, and this team could play like that they need to, and they could beat that Buffalo team, Buffalo young and hungry. We talked about those open those little open windows, and with Lamar not being himself and Mahomes now injured and the Chiefs out, this is Buffalo, come on, this is your chance, this is your chance. The Bill's playing big this weekend. Thirty five thirty one. Like I said, I think it was twenty one to nothing. At one point you thought the Patriots had that game easily, and they came back and said not so fast. That was really dope, and then a lot of injuries to really keep players. Those were our observations, and we're gonna dive into it more eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox we didn't even mention Rob Reiner. That makes me say home, there's so many things that make us go hmm. And we get to your phone calls, all your phone calls, and all your feedback. Next right here, Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio, Quick time out, Rich, what you got the holiday upgrade? Check time out? Hold up to watching the games on an old small TV. If you are, you're only seeing I have the game? Hold up? Is right? You should? You should not tap out in the red zone. You gotta have the right TV. Tcl's QM eight K, the QD Mini led is the real MVP, Ultimate brightness, ultimate black levels for the ultimate experience. Picture so clear, you could taste the turf. And it's not just football, it's the beast in me. You watched that clear days. You know you and I got on it at the same time. Pretty good. 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That's why Hanley On and US Soccer are launching for the Assist, a celebration of everyday acts and support that help people achieve their goals with iconic brands like Censedone, Toms, falter In, Advil, Centrum, and more. Learn more at haley Onassist dot com. You know there's a couple teams that are out that I think because of their reputation, we thought, ah, you know maybe they could, maybe they could make a little late season run. And we're slowly seeing those teams sort of fall by the wayside, like the Chiefs, especially now that Mahomes is gone. You said they're done. Chris Jones didn't know that. Chris Jones of the Chiefs, like, wait what wait? What? That made me say, HM, to be honest, even though I understand, because I feel like sometimes when you really and it, you really don't see it all because you're so in. It's like a relationship, right. The answer may be so clear to you, but when you're so involved and so invested, you don't know what the truth is. So you go to outside people who see so clearly. He's seeing through the fog, he's seeing the battle every day. Chris Jones didn't realize that they don't have a fighting chance. He doesn't listen to my schedule watching I'm not making excuses. I'm just saying I understand. Am I shocked? Yes, I don't, But that's understand. I was always fascinated when you would name someone in the sports media landscape and there's a I don't know who that is. That's the industry you're working. You should know everyone you should have. That's like when you were show me the other day, if I knew something like Loveline Lady, and I'm like, no, I don't. Kimino never heard of doctor Judy. No, that wasn't it the Lilah you heard the lab I mean not that I did, not really. I've worked in radio and I've obsessed over a not enough my whole life, So sometimes you miss things. But I think again, I'm not giving Chris Jones the past because he said, according to him that the Chiefs still have a fighting chance, and he goes, oh wait, we don't.

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Speaker 2: Oh snap, yeah. One of the reporters shook their heads and they were like, no, the excuses.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying that sometimes when you're in it, you don't see things as clear as every way you're saying outside looking in, the Chief's obviously done. And I mean if the Cowboys we talked about on Friday, that conversation is just trash. Now. Remember we said if the Cowboys went out and a couple tough losses by the Eagles and somehow the Cowboys could slip in, I mean it's the Cowboys would have to win out and then now the Eagles would have to lose three or four. That's not happening. The Cowboys losing to Minnesota last night, I thought was a real big, like organizational setback, like they like somehow that Froscott was still positive. If they fought to the finish, then you'd be like, all right, I see, I see. He was a primetime Sunday night gained to Minnesota. That was a week I think it's that's a week way to exit. I agree with you. I do. Let's go the phones. Everyone's lighting them up eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox. We're gonna do last one standing giveaway prizes later in the show. Stay tuned for that. But we do this every Monday. Any observation you made, especially in the world of the NFL, hit us up. Things that made you go Week fifteen. As we wrap it up tonight, who do we got? Let's go to that's Steph or Steven Steph, Steph Steph in Illinois? What's up? Steph? Hey, Steph?

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Speaker 2: How's be going? Fellas talking about that Chris Jones things.

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Speaker 4: I remember when Donovan Nab when he tied one time, he said he didn't even know the game could end in the time.

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Speaker 1: I remember that I absolutely remember that. Yeah, who didn't at the teams in their division? Recently it was camp Scattabu Cam scattab who didn't know teams in his own division. We see professional athletes recent Remember when Anthony Edwards didn't know who Alex Rodriguez was? Again, different sports, but to still professional. Not the name drop we had, dude some players. One of the biggest realizations to me as a get this professional broadcaster. I'm sorry, what are you? A professional broadcaster with a podcast? In fact, Rich and I celebrate twenty one years on the air together today. Yeah, true story, twenty one years December fifteenth oh four. We were in our early twenties trying radio. One of my biggest realizations was we'd be interviewing professional athletes. Our show could drink legally, our show has a mustache. Twenty one years old. Today you're all grown up. All the teammates don't know each other. You know, it may seem like common knowledge now or comment to you, but when we started twenty one years ago, I remember being shocked at a guy on the offensive line didn't know someone on special teams. Then you realize, well, you know, i'd fiftys comeing go, can you name fifty three people from your workplace? But you assume these things, right, So you know the fact that Chris Jones, let'll give you one, didn't know in the Let's see if you remember, just because I'm dope and forgot. We had we had a musician on our show. I think it's a Google dolls, but I don't think it is. We had someone on our show and Cavino started telling them the track listing on their cet. I know it was. It was Stephen Jenkins. Let's started, and Covino's like, yeah, that was track too, and the guy and Stephen Jenkins like, yeah, I don't remember the tracks on my album, Like you don't remember the track order on your albums? Yeah he didn't remember, So Steph called back eight seven seven ninety five point. I got too excited. Even George Pickens this year was didn't know ties were a thing, like he admitted. I think after the Packers and the Cowboys tied, He's like, I didn't know that was the thing. They're focused on different things. We're focused as fans, like it's a different level of focus. This guy's focus on game tape and which game individually exactly so again, I'm not making excuses, but I'm saying I understand what made you go? George and Virginia. What's up? What's going on?

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Speaker 4: Guys?

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Speaker 1: Amen? So Bill fan since nineteen sixty nine, through it all, sixty nine, you've been through it all. You've been through four in a row. And do you think this is the year? Is this the is the hope? Now you see what they can do. I know what we can do. We've had a lot better opportunities over the last five six years. But I still think we can win the division. I heard y'all talking earlier. You don't think we can. I think we can well do. We're gonna play someone tough coming up. I'll take a little look, but I'll say this. I'll give you this, George. You might not be riding as good of a car as you did in the last couple of years, but the other cars on the track are aren't as fast good one. I mean you're I mean you're telling me Patrick Mahomes and a healthy Chiefs team and a healthy Lamar Jackson, those are teams that scared you. If you're the Bills right now, you've got to be thinking, Wow, Bo Nix is in our way, we could do this. Drake May he's really shown a lot of promise, but he's the guy. If you're a Bills fan, you should be like, this is the year. That's it, got see it, that's it. I think today we went today.

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Speaker 3: I think they have a great chance if they were to enter as a wild card, to have that chip on their shoulder. And I thought it was evident in yesterday's game. They came in as a favorite in that game and we're down to your point twenty one nothing, and then they turned it on. So they needed that disrespect or they needed that. I'm not saying that was their plan, but for some reason, sometimes this team with expectations does not live up to it. And so if you were to go on a run and just reel off three straight road wins, which is something we've talked about, that's doable with this landscape here in the AFC, I think that's the ideal route for Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: Let me. I mean, I could probably put in a little playoff calculator, but does anyone know off offhand who would win that tiebreaker? Because they split head to head, so it'd have to be what in division and then conference because I could see the Patriots dropping one in New England next week. I'm sorry in Baltimore if the raveeans, I don't know, game a little struggle, but they play the Jets and the Dolphins, and the Dolphins will be fighting in week eighteen because who knows what they're trying to pull off here.

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Speaker 3: Patriots have the division record tiebreaker because of the Bills lost to the Dolphins, so that they have it if they if the Jets or Dolphins would beat in New England and that was the loss, then you would go further down the line.

00:31:17
Speaker 1: Okay. And to wrap up observations from that game, did you see josh Allen Barfin spewing at the end of the game. A lot of people speculated, like, who does he have a flu? Is he sick? He says it happens every game. I don't know the reason. And I looked at is it nerves? Is it nervous? He says that he has to get it out. So is that just nerves? Is that how much is riding on a game versus the Patriots? I mean, listen, people have different nerves and anxieties. Used to say, like, you know, like you're not feeling you get if you hop on stage, could be know for a big event or something, you might be like, go up a little nervous. What if Josh Allen has at times one hundred and he's an NFL quarterback, he might be might every single week like you remember when who's on South Park? Who's on South Remember the it was it? Kyle has a crush on the girl. There's a girl that.

00:32:04
Speaker 2: I like it.

00:32:04
Speaker 1: Every time he sees the girl, he pukes, yes, maybe ash up that I like do do do?

00:32:09
Speaker 2: Do you know?

00:32:10
Speaker 1: Let's go to Dann Buy for an update. All the feedback we're gonna get through next dB. What's going on? Man?

00:32:15
Speaker 3: Yeah, so the news of the day, chief said coach Andy Reid s to the quarterback Patrick Mahomes is going to get a second opinion on the injured knee. A torn ACL in his left knee former Homes, costing him the rest of the season. Packer's edge rusher Michaeh Parsons confirmed that he has an ACL tear and his left knee he's done for the year. Packers wide receiver Christian Watson status for their game against the Bears in Week sixteen up in the air. He had an upper body injury and was actually seen at a Denver hospital, but no major injuries were revealed. Commanders are shutting down quarterback Jaden Daniels for the rest of the season. He will not play in their final three regular season games. Marcus Mariot to the starting quarterback for the Commanders. Jets dismissed defensive coordinator Steve Wilkes Dolphins and Steelers tonight eight fifteen Eastern, and you guys touched on it earlier. Philip rivers Can firmed as the starting quarterback for the Colts in week sixteen on Monday Night Football against the forty nine Ers. Head coach Shane steike And also said today the quarterback Anthony Richardson has been medically clear to return to practice from his orbital fracture, but no word if Richardson is even close to playing in a regular game college football. Nebraska quarterback Dilan Royola and Florida quarterback DJ Lagway both entered the transfer portal. Sesame Street helped raise all of us. Now it's our turn donate this holiday season at sesame dot org because the world needs Sesame and Sesame needs you. ESPN is saying that the NBA is considering not using Las Vegas at all for next year's NBA Cup. They're moving the semifinals to home sites next year and could look for a neutral site in a different spot, or also use home courts for the championship game. Scotti Scheffler the PGA Tour Player of the Year for the fourth straight year.

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Speaker 1: Guys, back to you nice than Bee. I use Google and AI as my friend, maybe a human like you with knowledge those more torn ACL. I'm seeing the average NFL quarterback return is in the nine month window, which would put Mahomes maybe missing a little the beginning of the season, or if it's not, if he's getting that second opinion, maybe it's not a severe but if it is a torn ACL, we're looking at him maybe missing even the beginning of next season. Yeah, I mean it could be. That's the people to a year sometimes.

00:34:16
Speaker 2: Yeah.

00:34:16
Speaker 3: People tried to compare the Brady injury to the Mahomes and the Brady one was in Week one, which I mean he was lost for that whole season. But that's the dangerous part about this is it's all of next year, plus I think you kind of need a year anyway after the injury. So I'm not sure how great the prospects will be for Casey, So it could.

00:34:34
Speaker 1: Very well be that Mahomes may not even play much of next season.

00:34:38
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'll think you'll play next season. It's just the point of getting past the injury, like if you're trying to wrap up and I mean, yeah, it's it's significant. It's not what the acls once were before. But yeah, the beginning of training camp and what not could be you know, there could be issues.

00:34:54
Speaker 1: Man, Thank you, Dan Byer. Hey, everyone on the phone, Hey, Steve, coleback, Chris Andy, Everyone, that's uh, Jeff. Everyone that's chiming in.

00:35:04
Speaker 2: Now.

00:35:04
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Rich the Ravens getting back to five hundred.

00:37:33
Speaker 1: Ravens are seven and seven, and if Miami wins tonight, you'll have three seven and seven teams Miami, Pittsburgh, and Baltimore that we were just talking about. But I think the team that's getting no love, I think it's it's almost like a George Bush show. Whatever fool me once, shame on, you won't get fooled again. Fool me once. Shame on, Shame on you.

00:37:55
Speaker 4: It fooled me.

00:37:56
Speaker 1: We can't get fooled again. I feel like I don't want to be fooled that Trevor Lawrence and the Jags are good. Are you ready for some football? And I think they're really good, you know, like they're really they're They're not just winning now now they're beating teams and they're Lawrence had a game, his best game of his entire career, pudies and what three hundred and thirty yards something like that? Forty eight points they put up against the Yams. You ever see at cl Roberts Mine? Now? Do you do you ever see a college football game where some dinky load Division team somehow at halftime is like tied with Georgia or Alabama like this, like my god, it's ten ten at halftime, and then Alabama ends up winning forty two ten. I feel the analogy there would be the AFC South when Indianapolis was so far ahead of everybody. We're like, man, Indianapolis and there are people saying, like, is Daniel Jones going to the Super Bowl? And I know he's injured and he's out, but very quickly they're in third place. Houston's defense looks ridiculously like frightening, and Jacksonville's scoring points like they are they were in one time this season. Every one in the network, not just us, like the experts, like the Collins and dps of the world, will be like, man, the cults are real. The cults are in third place and they're not going to make the playoffs. It happens fast a couple of weeks ago by Cavino and it's over and right now. We talked about the teams that Buffalo could be and should be scared of another wildcard team unless they somehow catch up. I think Houston, oh yeah, they're defenses, oh yeah, and they're just streaking. You know. Hey. And by the way, such a crazy weekend and so many big injuries. You saw Patrick Mahomes hobbling off getting a second opinion. We heard Dan Byer talk about that, but I saw a meme, so it has to be true. Of course, in regards to Mahomes Minshew. At the end of the game, it'll be the first playoff without Brady Manning or Mahomes since nineteen ninety eight. That's crazy. If you let that sink in time stamp. That's when I graduated college. So those names have dominated the dominated the NFL for that long. Wow, A playoffs without them is wild that you're talking about, you know, the late nineties when a lot of us were in high school in late nineteen hundreds, were you were, you know, you were doing lude shots and beer cake stands. The last time one of those three guys was not on a postseason team, which is wild. And speaking of time stamps, on this day, Rich nineteen ninety two, thirty three years ago, the chronic doctor Dre came out. Just throwing that out there makes you say hmm. Now, so many more observations and we'll take your feedback. Next, we'll wrap up the phone calls. Then we're gonna play last one Standing and give away some prizes, and we'll talk some NBA for a second too, because it happened. Okase lost and to who we talked about it last week. If there is a team that was gonna beat them, was it Wemby and the Spurs and but bam, it happened. So we'll talk a little NBA, NFL and a baseball observation as well. So more coming up cn R on FSR Monday, let's go