Episode 93: Medication, Illness, & Fasting, Hormonal Birth Control, Losing Weight After Menopause, and More

<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Fast Feast Repeat Intermittent Fasting for Life. I'm
<v Speaker 1>Jen Stevens, author of the New York Times bestseller Fast Feast.
<v Speaker 2>Repeat, and I'm Sherry Bullock, longtime intermittent faster and health
<v Speaker 2>and wellness advocate. Please keep in mind that this podcast
<v Speaker 2>is for educational and motivational purposes only and is not
<v Speaker 2>intended to provide medical or diagnostic advice. Jen and I
<v Speaker 2>are not doctors, so make sure to check with your
<v Speaker 2>trusted healthcare professionals before making changes, especially when it comes
<v Speaker 2>to any medical treatments or medications.
<v Speaker 1>Whether you're new to intermittent fasting or an experienced intermittent faster,
<v Speaker 1>tune in each week to get inspired, to learn, and
<v Speaker 1>to have some fun along the way. Hi, everybody, we
<v Speaker 1>are so glad you're here today. Welcome to this week's
<v Speaker 1>episode of the Fast Feast Repeat, Intermittent Fasting for Life Podcast.
<v Speaker 1>How are you doing today? Sherry?
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing great. I'm a little sleepy.
<v Speaker 1>Try to wake up. Hi, much change hitting you well?
<v Speaker 1>I worked extra this weekend.
<v Speaker 2>I have a poor girl I work with who's been
<v Speaker 2>going through going through it. Her husband's now been in
<v Speaker 2>the ICU three times since.
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, that's you.
<v Speaker 2>Ry. Well, he keeps having accidents, and so I've been
<v Speaker 2>working a lot extra and I end up working extra
<v Speaker 2>Friday night, and then I just didn't sleep well. I
<v Speaker 2>think my body's telling me it doesn't want to be
<v Speaker 2>a night worker anymore. I don't sleep well during the
<v Speaker 2>day anymore. Yeah, it also could be that I stay
<v Speaker 2>with my friend and she does not sleep.
<v Speaker 1>She doesn't sleep well.
<v Speaker 2>Luckily for her, she's a position she actually sleeps at work,
<v Speaker 2>so then she doesn't have to sleep all day while
<v Speaker 2>I'm sleeping at her house. And so she's always up,
<v Speaker 2>like vacuuming over my head and cleaning stuff and dragging
<v Speaker 2>ladders around because.
<v Speaker 1>She's like never stops. She's like the inner geyser bunny.
<v Speaker 1>And so I don't know. I really don't know how
<v Speaker 1>much of my not sleeping on the weekend lately.
<v Speaker 2>Is that she's always so busy and I sleep at
<v Speaker 2>her house, or if my body just doesn't like sleeping
<v Speaker 2>during the day anymore. Well, our circadian rhythm is important
<v Speaker 2>to change, and I know what it changes, and you
<v Speaker 2>stop producing serotonin and dopamine like you do when you're
<v Speaker 2>younger and stuff. So anyway, I did sleep almost twelve
<v Speaker 2>hours last night, which is wows a lot. Yeah, my
<v Speaker 2>body needed it. I went to bed before eight, and.
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, you're like me. It was a gen night.
<v Speaker 1>I used to stay up till nine, so that was
<v Speaker 1>earlier than me.
<v Speaker 2>When I looked at my sleep tracker, I was only
<v Speaker 2>awake for four minutes out of that time.
<v Speaker 1>Wow, I'm crazy. You needed it. I did need it,
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, I'm trying to.
<v Speaker 2>I went and worked out for recording, as I do
<v Speaker 2>everything I could to kind of shed the sleepiness I have.
<v Speaker 2>But maybe as we start talking, I'll get a little spunky, hopefully.
<v Speaker 1>And on my end, it is we're recording this in March,
<v Speaker 1>and it is college spring break, and the people who
<v Speaker 1>rented the house like right across our little alley from
<v Speaker 1>us are a fraternity. It's a fraternity, and they're playing
<v Speaker 1>really loud music and singing. The house with the pool, well,
<v Speaker 1>all of those houses have pools, but yeah, the one
<v Speaker 1>that's yeah right, your d like, yes, the one that's
<v Speaker 1>having the fraternity house for the week is the one
<v Speaker 1>that's directly like where my mailbox is, so it's like
<v Speaker 1>the one directly behind me. I thought there's always a
<v Speaker 1>party over there. This is a louder party than usual.
<v Speaker 2>So anyhow, I don't hear it on my end, so good.
<v Speaker 1>I like, what's that music? Gins jamming out? I am
<v Speaker 1>having a party over yere with my fraternity friends. They
<v Speaker 1>look like such like their stake. My college friends are
<v Speaker 1>in town this past weekend and we were all in
<v Speaker 1>the same sorority and these fraternity boys rolled up on Saturday,
<v Speaker 1>and they look like babies because they're younger than all
<v Speaker 1>of our children.
<v Speaker 2>Right, yeah, oh my gosh, We're like, oh my gosh,
<v Speaker 2>they're so young. Anyway, I think that's when I really
<v Speaker 2>started to realize my age.
<v Speaker 1>You know, my husband always says age is just a number,
<v Speaker 1>and he really believes this.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I believe it to a point, but I
<v Speaker 2>still struggle a little bit with getting older.
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna lie I do.
<v Speaker 2>And he's ten years younger than me, and that's always
<v Speaker 2>like in the back of my head. And all of
<v Speaker 2>a sudden I noticed, like all of the new residents
<v Speaker 2>and stuff are just like babies. They're like babies when
<v Speaker 2>they're the age of your own children and younger.
<v Speaker 1>That when I start.
<v Speaker 2>Mothering the er residence that's when it's like, oh my gosh,
<v Speaker 2>I am their mother's age.
<v Speaker 1>It's true. So there were little girls in front of
<v Speaker 1>me at the grocery store last week and they had
<v Speaker 1>been obviously sunbathing on their stomachs and the back of
<v Speaker 1>their legs were like super red. And I want to say,
<v Speaker 1>y'all need to get some sunscreen on those legs, but
<v Speaker 1>I didn't first trade myself. Thanks mom.
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, I know, but I think it's exciting that
<v Speaker 2>spring breaks there. Like, I love the energy of your
<v Speaker 2>beach house when it's full of people that are just
<v Speaker 2>like vacationing and happy to be there.
<v Speaker 1>It's such a fun vibe. It really really. I love
<v Speaker 1>it too.
<v Speaker 2>You're getting back into beach season vacation, Yes we are, Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>love it, Love it all right, So let's share our
<v Speaker 2>celebration from a listener, And this week we have a
<v Speaker 2>share from Natalie. She said, I had a business meeting
<v Speaker 2>yesterday with people I hadn't seen in a year. Afterward,
<v Speaker 2>one woman pulled me aside, looking very serious. I braced myself.
<v Speaker 2>Did I have something on my face? Was my shirt
<v Speaker 2>inside out?
<v Speaker 1>Nope?
<v Speaker 2>Instead, she asked, what have you been doing? I had
<v Speaker 2>no idea what she meant weight loss.
<v Speaker 1>Nope.
<v Speaker 2>Instead, she said that I looked ten years younger and
<v Speaker 2>way less stressed, which apparently was my default setting before IF.
<v Speaker 1>Yikes.
<v Speaker 2>She wanted to know if I was taking some kind
<v Speaker 2>of magical supplements. I told her nope, same old vitamins.
<v Speaker 2>But then I casually mentioned the one major change I
<v Speaker 2>started IF in late No. Twenty twenty four.
<v Speaker 1>Cue the floodgates.
<v Speaker 2>She started peppering me with questions, and before I knew it,
<v Speaker 2>I was rattling off IA facts like a pro way
<v Speaker 2>beyond an elevator pitch. Naturally, I pointed her to Jen's books,
<v Speaker 2>starting with the twenty eight day Fast Start, and I
<v Speaker 2>recommended the podcast and of course the awesome DDD community.
<v Speaker 2>As I was leaving, she said, if I can look
<v Speaker 2>as good as you by doing IF, I'm in the
<v Speaker 2>funny part. That very morning, I was feeling kind of
<v Speaker 2>meh blah. I had a brief nanosecond of doubt, dang
<v Speaker 2>diet brain trying to make a comeback, wondering if things
<v Speaker 2>had slowed down. Turns out IF is still working its magic.
<v Speaker 2>I just needed someone else to remind me more all
<v Speaker 2>of the story. Trust the process. I may not see
<v Speaker 2>it every day, but others sure do.
<v Speaker 1>I love it, and you know, we see that in
<v Speaker 1>the community. People will share before photos and like in
<v Speaker 1>process photos, after photos, all of those.
<v Speaker 2>And everyone just looks more alive. Yeah, I mean, everybody's
<v Speaker 2>face is brighter. We call it the if glow. Everybody's
<v Speaker 2>face just looks brighter. Their eyes are brighter. And one
<v Speaker 2>of the first places we start to see inflammation RECEIPD
<v Speaker 2>is in the face, yeap, And I think that a
<v Speaker 2>lot of that helps, you know, you kind of get
<v Speaker 2>that puffy and plaint flamed look go.
<v Speaker 1>And people just looks brighter. Their moods are more balanced,
<v Speaker 1>so they smile more.
<v Speaker 2>And I mean, I do think that people who I
<v Speaker 2>do if they not only glow like their skin doesn't glow,
<v Speaker 2>but I think their personalities start to glow and they
<v Speaker 2>just become happier from inside out.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love it all right. Today we have a
<v Speaker 1>few questions regarding fasting and illness. It has been like
<v Speaker 1>a rough winter, hadn't it share it? It has been.
<v Speaker 1>People have been sick, it has we've been I've heard
<v Speaker 1>it on the news. It's been a bad flu season.
<v Speaker 1>I've stayed well, I'm knocking on wood again. Can you
<v Speaker 1>hear me knocking?
<v Speaker 2>It's probably we've seen more gi bug stuff this winter
<v Speaker 2>than really what I can remember.
<v Speaker 1>In a long time.
<v Speaker 2>I haven't had any kind of gi anything in like,
<v Speaker 2>I can't even remember when. Well, thank goodness, knock on
<v Speaker 2>would Yeah, I have been well this whole season, and well,
<v Speaker 2>I think I had a little something I can't remember.
<v Speaker 2>Maybe I wasn't. No, that was way back in the
<v Speaker 2>end the summer.
<v Speaker 1>All traveling. Yeah, yeah, yep. So the first question is
<v Speaker 1>from Marissa D in Yardley, Pennsylvania high sharing Engine. I've
<v Speaker 1>been fasting since December of twenty twenty three, and I've
<v Speaker 1>been through various ups and downs, but I'm very happy
<v Speaker 1>and I love this lifestyle. I lost about thirty pounds
<v Speaker 1>since beginning. I'm five feet tall and weigh about one
<v Speaker 1>hundred and thirty three pounds currently. While I've gotten sick
<v Speaker 1>before and had to go on meds, most times I
<v Speaker 1>could manipulate my window to fit them in the eating
<v Speaker 1>window or take them without food. However, I recently was
<v Speaker 1>diagnosed with a severe sinus infection that requires me to
<v Speaker 1>take six doses of asteroid to day. To start for
<v Speaker 1>six days. This dosage tapers down every six days for
<v Speaker 1>about a month. In addition, I need to take three
<v Speaker 1>doses of a moxacilin daily for two weeks. These medications
<v Speaker 1>are very rough on my stomach, and I've had to
<v Speaker 1>break my fast with little blips of food to get
<v Speaker 1>in the medicine. If I could move the dosage to
<v Speaker 1>join my eating window, I would. The issue with that
<v Speaker 1>is I need to be done with the steroids by
<v Speaker 1>early afternoon or I can't sleep. Steroids make me hyper.
<v Speaker 1>It's not ideal, but unavoidable. I've been pretending that the
<v Speaker 1>small blip didn't happen, and I continue fasting until my
<v Speaker 1>preferred time of eating. I've been eating peanut butter crackers
<v Speaker 1>or rice cake or sugar free jello cut before the
<v Speaker 1>meds and then closing my window. Do you have a
<v Speaker 1>suggested protocol or particular low calorie items to use in
<v Speaker 1>this situation. I've been trying to eat less than fifty calories.
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking this is uncontrollable, but I want to make
<v Speaker 1>sure there aren't any better options. Thanks for your suggestions.
<v Speaker 1>I love your podcast and your direct and explicit advice.
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate both of you.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, by the time we read this, you'll have
<v Speaker 2>been done with this, I hope, but I want I
<v Speaker 2>do want you to take note for next time. While
<v Speaker 2>I understand that sometimes we have to take a little
<v Speaker 2>something with food medication wise, you're gonna do much better
<v Speaker 2>and you're going to feel much better if you kind
<v Speaker 2>of deviate from that thought of low calorie because like
<v Speaker 2>a sugar free jello cut or a rice cake or
<v Speaker 2>a peanut butter cracker, you know, all of those things
<v Speaker 2>that are really going to stimulate your body to release
<v Speaker 2>insulin without really anything to kind of counteract it.
<v Speaker 1>And I would feel awful.
<v Speaker 2>If I had a sugar free jello cup because you're
<v Speaker 2>going to get that. It's kind of like that whole
<v Speaker 2>reason why we don't drink diet soda while fasting, because
<v Speaker 2>it stimulates an insun release. So you're gonna get that
<v Speaker 2>big insulin release, but you're not going to have any
<v Speaker 2>like fat or fiber to like mitigate that, and you're
<v Speaker 2>just gonna get this big insulin release and a blood
<v Speaker 2>sugar drop and you're gonna feel awful. Now, the fact
<v Speaker 2>that you're on steroids, maybe you didn't notice that because
<v Speaker 2>that in itself can cause an insulin release. But in general,
<v Speaker 2>I would stay away from carbohydrates or sugar free stuff
<v Speaker 2>to take medication with and instead think about fat because
<v Speaker 2>it's going to have the least insulin response. And you know,
<v Speaker 2>have a bite of cheese, have a bite of cottage cheese,
<v Speaker 2>have well butter, Yeah, you know, a couple slices of avocado,
<v Speaker 2>you know, something like that, because it's gonna coat your stomach.
<v Speaker 2>But you're not gonna get that really sharp insulin, you know,
<v Speaker 2>release without anything to kind of mitigate it. At least
<v Speaker 2>the fat isn't going to have as sharp as an effect.
<v Speaker 1>That's why I like people on keto.
<v Speaker 2>You know, they are trying to keep their insulin low
<v Speaker 2>and keeping katosis and that kind of thing. So try
<v Speaker 2>that next time, because that's going to be your best option.
<v Speaker 2>I've seen people say, I think doctor Funk suggested take
<v Speaker 2>a few spinach leaves and dip them in some olive
<v Speaker 2>oil because that oil, plus the kind of the fiber
<v Speaker 2>from the spinach is going to kind of really help
<v Speaker 2>coat your stomach and it gives you something to digest
<v Speaker 2>with the medication. So that's my best advice. And you know,
<v Speaker 2>we understand sometimes it's not ideal, but you have to
<v Speaker 2>do what you have to do.
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you have to set fasting perfectly aside to do
<v Speaker 1>what you need to do with your medication. Now, if
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about something that's long term, that's a different story.
<v Speaker 1>You know, this has a finish line, you'll be done.
<v Speaker 1>If it's a long term medication, that's when you talk
<v Speaker 1>to your doctor and let them know that you're fasting
<v Speaker 1>and you would like a medication or a timing dosage
<v Speaker 1>timing that works better with your fasting schedule. You know what.
<v Speaker 2>Somebody actually told me that they do this was a
<v Speaker 2>patient what And she's not a faster, but she doesn't
<v Speaker 2>like to swallow hills and she gags on them. She
<v Speaker 2>kind of like a dog. She coats her pills in
<v Speaker 2>a little ball of cream cheese and then swallows the
<v Speaker 2>cream cheese because it's smooth and she doesn't.
<v Speaker 1>Gag on it. That's why I was fatter sticking in
<v Speaker 1>the butt.
<v Speaker 2>Was like, well that would actually really work too if
<v Speaker 2>you needed a little something to coat your stomach while
<v Speaker 2>taking a pill off fasting.
<v Speaker 1>So uh huh, that was funny. All right, So we
<v Speaker 1>have a question from Janelle in Columbus, Ohio. She said, Hi,
<v Speaker 1>Jen and Sherry.
<v Speaker 2>I have been following the IF lifestyle since August of
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty three with great success. I've listened to all
<v Speaker 2>of the FFR episodes and I don't recall this topic
<v Speaker 2>being addressed. Given that it's flu season. I hope you
<v Speaker 2>can provide some clarity that might help others as well. Recently,
<v Speaker 2>I came down with a vicious stomach bug that my
<v Speaker 2>doctor believes was neurovirus. I couldn't eat or drink anything
<v Speaker 2>except for small SIPs of water for forty eight hours,
<v Speaker 2>and even after that, my appetite was nonexistent. As I
<v Speaker 2>started to feel a bit better, I was unsure whether
<v Speaker 2>to return to my regular fasting protocol, which is a
<v Speaker 2>five hour daily eating window, or to wait until I
<v Speaker 2>was fully recovered before resuming. I was torn between using
<v Speaker 2>fasting to help my body heal from the virus and
<v Speaker 2>simply fueling my body with whenever it needed nourishment. Any
<v Speaker 2>guidance you can offer on when to resume fasting after
<v Speaker 2>a stomach virus would be greatly appreciated.
<v Speaker 1>Thank you. I think this is really a listen to
<v Speaker 1>your body moment. Janelle because when we've had a digestive illness,
<v Speaker 1>like like you were talking about, Jerry, this is what's
<v Speaker 1>been going all around this neurovirus. Your digestive system needs
<v Speaker 1>that break. And so you like had no appetite, and
<v Speaker 1>your body is like sending you no appetite and giving
<v Speaker 1>you that command to rest, and you really you have
<v Speaker 1>no appetite. You can't eat, you don't even want to.
<v Speaker 1>And so as your appetite starts to wake up again,
<v Speaker 1>that's your body telling you, all right, it's time you
<v Speaker 1>can start eating again. So I wouldn't like force anything,
<v Speaker 1>I would just let it unfold. You know that you're
<v Speaker 1>often supposed to. It's been so long, like I said,
<v Speaker 1>since I've had anything like this, But I think the
<v Speaker 1>recommendation is to start with you know, what is it
<v Speaker 1>called the brat diet? Uh huh? What's the an apple
<v Speaker 1>sauce toast? I don't even know. I just knew brass
<v Speaker 1>in my head. Yeah. But gentle, you're waking up your
<v Speaker 1>digestive system slowly and gently, and like what sounds like
<v Speaker 1>you could eat it. Like for example, I'm going to
<v Speaker 1>go back to way back in twenty twenty one when
<v Speaker 1>I had really.
<v Speaker 2>Bad COVID and I had no appetite. I couldn't eat anything.
<v Speaker 2>But I as I started to feel better and started
<v Speaker 2>to be able to taste again, like I started craving
<v Speaker 2>meat like nobody's business.
<v Speaker 1>And you know I don't crave meat like I don't yep.
<v Speaker 1>But while I had COVID, my body like rejected meat.
<v Speaker 1>I was like, ugh, can't eat an. I didn't want
<v Speaker 1>any of it.
<v Speaker 2>I like to, like theoretically think it was my body,
<v Speaker 2>you know, dealing with the spike protein and breaking it down.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, well whatever was going on, but I
<v Speaker 2>couldn't even look at meat. And then as I started
<v Speaker 2>to get better, I wanted nothing but meat. So I
<v Speaker 2>just listened to my body. I was like eating a
<v Speaker 2>lot of meat, and I didn't overthink it. I mean
<v Speaker 2>I did think about it. I wonder what this means.
<v Speaker 2>My body needs the protein for whatever reason. But I
<v Speaker 2>just listened. And so that's what I want you to
<v Speaker 2>do when you're sick.
<v Speaker 1>I do think that taking a break from eating, when
<v Speaker 1>our body sends us the new appetite, I think that's
<v Speaker 1>what it's about. That's what it's for.
<v Speaker 2>You know.
<v Speaker 1>I've told this story on podcasts before. But Will's cat Pepper,
<v Speaker 1>back when Will and Pepper were living with Is briefly,
<v Speaker 1>at some point during the pandemic, Pepper stopped eating, like completely.
<v Speaker 1>He just sat really still, Like you could just tell
<v Speaker 1>by looking his little cat face. He didn't feel good.
<v Speaker 1>We couldn't get him to eat. We tried to give
<v Speaker 1>him food, he rejected all of it, and he just
<v Speaker 1>was like that for a little bit, and then he
<v Speaker 1>started to feel better, and then he started eating again.
<v Speaker 1>He instinctively knew his body told him, and then he
<v Speaker 1>was able to resume with his normal appetite when he
<v Speaker 1>felt better. So really listen to your body, Like if
<v Speaker 1>you've been sick and your craven toast, have some toast.
<v Speaker 1>If you're I don't normally eat at ten am, but
<v Speaker 1>you've had a stomach virus and your body's like, I
<v Speaker 1>really need some toast in gendroil, have it. This is
<v Speaker 1>really a time to listen.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I was going to say too that when
<v Speaker 2>you're feeling better and you're ready to resume fasting, maybe
<v Speaker 2>you don't want a five hour window on the first day.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you may really once your appetite comes back
<v Speaker 2>and your gut has healed, you may really be hungry
<v Speaker 2>because you haven't really eaten, and so you know, maybe
<v Speaker 2>ease back in and do an eight hour eating window
<v Speaker 2>day and have some light meals throughout the day and
<v Speaker 2>kind of slowly get your gut back to a regular
<v Speaker 2>eating pattern and then slide back into your regular eating
<v Speaker 2>window exactly. You know, you can actually see the effects
<v Speaker 2>of like neurovirus on the stomach on a CT scan,
<v Speaker 2>and you know, a small vowel gets very inflamed and
<v Speaker 2>the vessels and everything around it gets really inflamed. Can
<v Speaker 2>you can see it? So yeah, I mean you're digestion
<v Speaker 2>has slowed down, your gut's inflamed, and so it can
<v Speaker 2>take a while to feel better after that. And it's
<v Speaker 2>really no surprise when you kind of see how angry
<v Speaker 2>the gut looks, that you don't want.
<v Speaker 1>To eat when you're sick like that.
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, listening to your body's always best, it really is.
<v Speaker 2>And that's why we can't be prescriptive about it.
<v Speaker 1>Like there's so many things that could happen, and your
<v Speaker 1>body really has signals that it's designed to send you
<v Speaker 1>for a reason. And we've you know, in today's modern
<v Speaker 1>diet culture. We've stopped listening to them, but right, they're real.
<v Speaker 1>Like there's this advice that just mat is bizarre. It's like,
<v Speaker 1>if you're thirsty, you're already dehydrated. Why would our body
<v Speaker 1>have a thirst signal that it didn't send you till
<v Speaker 1>it was too late. I mean, I don't know. If
<v Speaker 1>I'm cruising along and I'm thirsty, I just drink something.
<v Speaker 1>I don't like freak out that I was already too
<v Speaker 1>thirsty before.
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, if you're thirsty, you could be dehydrated, yeah, or
<v Speaker 2>you could just be thirsty when you've.
<v Speaker 1>Been really dehydrated. That's a different kind of thirst, like
<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh my god, you know you can't get enough.
<v Speaker 1>That's different, right, But like our body signals are for
<v Speaker 1>a reason.
<v Speaker 2>I just think ancient man was not walking around with
<v Speaker 2>a gallon tumbler with a straw in it, taking SIPs
<v Speaker 2>of water out of a gallon tumbler all day. Well,
<v Speaker 2>and I think it's a different thirst. I think of
<v Speaker 2>my husband. He doesn't drink very much when he works.
<v Speaker 2>He is My husband is a machine when he's working. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>my husband's one goal in life is to get through
<v Speaker 2>his work as fast as possible, which means you do
<v Speaker 2>not take time out to drink, to eat, to use
<v Speaker 2>the bathroom. You just go until you're done. And then
<v Speaker 2>he'll come home and in the evening he's suddenly drinking
<v Speaker 2>everything he can get his hands on, milk, pineapple, juice.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he'll open up a can of fruit just
<v Speaker 2>to drink the juice out of it. If I don't
<v Speaker 2>have juice, And I'm like, what are you doing? He's like,
<v Speaker 2>I'm so thirsty today.
<v Speaker 1>His body's like you didn't have an It makes you
<v Speaker 1>hitting him the signal.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm like, what did you drink today? And he's like,
<v Speaker 2>I just had one doctor pepper all day And I'm like, well, no,
<v Speaker 2>when you're thirsty.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So you know when you need more to drink
<v Speaker 1>or when you are drinking enough?
<v Speaker 2>Exactly, exactly, All right, Now, it's time for our segment
<v Speaker 2>called what's Your Why.
<v Speaker 1>Most of us begin intermittent fasting with weight loss in mind.
<v Speaker 1>That is a great reason to become an intermittent faster,
<v Speaker 1>but there is so much more to what intermittent fasting
<v Speaker 1>can do for us beyond weight loss. So if you
<v Speaker 1>craft a why statement before beginning or now, if you
<v Speaker 1>haven't done it yet, go ahead and do it now.
<v Speaker 1>I really believe that if your why is deeper than
<v Speaker 1>weight loss alone, you're more likely to find long term
<v Speaker 1>success and if you intermittent fasting as a lifestyle. All right, Well,
<v Speaker 1>this week we have a wife from fair Play, Nancy.
<v Speaker 1>And we know Nancy, she's actually in our community, but
<v Speaker 1>she actually wrote in on the podcast Sumission Form and
<v Speaker 1>submitted this. And when I saw this, I kind of
<v Speaker 1>laughed a little bit because she lives in fair Play
<v Speaker 1>and one of the things I love about Nancy is
<v Speaker 1>that she plays. She makes child for play. Yep.
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, so she said weight loss is part of my why.
<v Speaker 2>Of course, it would be something awesome to not be
<v Speaker 2>obese for my entire adult life. I've been on diet
<v Speaker 2>since I was about twelve.
<v Speaker 1>Me too, Nancy.
<v Speaker 2>Bigger than weight loss, however, is fear. There's only my
<v Speaker 2>younger brother and me left. I would love to avoid
<v Speaker 2>Alzheimer's and diabetes, which my parents both had, and fatty
<v Speaker 2>liver and heart issues which my sister and older brother have.
<v Speaker 2>I already have a high blood pressure that is tough
<v Speaker 2>for even meds to control. With MTHFR mutation, I understand
<v Speaker 2>that I am predisposed for all sorts of issues that
<v Speaker 2>I don't even understand. My biggest why is to stay
<v Speaker 2>independent as long as I can. Likely I'll be alone
<v Speaker 2>when I get to that point, and it scares me
<v Speaker 2>to require total care from strangers, and it scares me
<v Speaker 2>to go out alone longev. My younger brother and I
<v Speaker 2>have agreed that we're going to live to one hundred.
<v Speaker 2>My role model is my great aunt, who passed at
<v Speaker 2>one oh six.
<v Speaker 1>Short term.
<v Speaker 2>I joke about it, but I would like to gain
<v Speaker 2>enough mobility back to be able to get up off
<v Speaker 2>the floor without crawling to something. I know that the
<v Speaker 2>lack of this ability sets me up for my failure
<v Speaker 2>in my previous wives. And exciting news. She just recently
<v Speaker 2>posted in community that she talked to her younger brother
<v Speaker 2>about pasting and he has decided to give it a go.
<v Speaker 1>I'm so excited. Yeah that is I think it was
<v Speaker 1>her younger brother. I think, yep, yep, it was, because
<v Speaker 1>that's the only only her younger brother and she only surviving.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, I knew her sister died from liver disease,
<v Speaker 2>so yeah, anyway.
<v Speaker 1>I remember when that happened.
<v Speaker 2>Because she talked about it in the community, and you know,
<v Speaker 2>it's really, really, it.
<v Speaker 1>Is a challenge watching your brothers and sisters as they're
<v Speaker 1>getting older. You know, we talked about how we always
<v Speaker 1>just feel the same inside, right, but as you're watching
<v Speaker 1>your siblings get older, it's like steering in your face
<v Speaker 1>that oh my gosh, because I'm the oldest of four
<v Speaker 1>and you know, looking at my brother with his gray
<v Speaker 1>beard and thinking, oh my gosh, I'm older than him.
<v Speaker 1>So wanting to age. Well, that's really what she said
<v Speaker 1>about wanting to stay independent. Yeah, and I'm sure she
<v Speaker 1>is concerned.
<v Speaker 2>Her husband is older than her and he is not
<v Speaker 2>in great health and he's been battling cancer for a while. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>wanting to be able to be independent, and especially when
<v Speaker 2>you know you don't have family around you, or that
<v Speaker 2>you might outlive your spouse. I think that's so important,
<v Speaker 2>as is being able to get off off the floor
<v Speaker 2>without crawling. That is a big way. Absolutely.
<v Speaker 1>Well, we share all of those same wise with you, Nancy.
<v Speaker 1>All right. Our next question is from Sarah from Illinois.
<v Speaker 1>She says, Hi, guys, I love you guys, and listening
<v Speaker 1>to your inspiration gets me through the tough fasts. Speaking of,
<v Speaker 1>I'll give you some backstory. First. I am thirty two
<v Speaker 1>and five foot two inches. I found fasting around twenty nineteen,
<v Speaker 1>but I didn't find clean fasting until about twenty twenty one.
<v Speaker 1>Those fifty calories during the fast were killing me. What
<v Speaker 1>a joke. I also have PCOS, so at that point
<v Speaker 1>I was almost two hundred pounds, a number I never
<v Speaker 1>wanted to see. I started a window of two to
<v Speaker 1>seven ish and got down to about one hundred and
<v Speaker 1>fifty five until, to my shock, I got pregnant in
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three after three years of trying. Hooray, I
<v Speaker 1>should be to celebrate that. And you know, we hear
<v Speaker 1>that from people with PCOS. Fasting is one of the
<v Speaker 1>best things someone with PCOS can do to improve their fertility.
<v Speaker 2>We've had lots and lots of babies from PCs women.
<v Speaker 1>Who are like, oh, have surprise. It's always a good surprise.
<v Speaker 2>We had a few back when when the Facebook grip
<v Speaker 2>we did, and who were told they could never get pregnant,
<v Speaker 2>and then they started fasting and then they pop in
<v Speaker 2>and be like, I'm surprised.
<v Speaker 1>I'm forty two.
<v Speaker 2>I've been fasting six months, and I'm now pregnant, so
<v Speaker 2>I can't fast anymore.
<v Speaker 1>Love it. So Sarah goes on to say, so I
<v Speaker 1>obviously stopped, and at my highest pregnancy weight was around
<v Speaker 1>two hundred, like one more bite would have tipped the
<v Speaker 1>scale to two hundred. I still didn't fast during breastfeeding
<v Speaker 1>and all of pregnancy, and after everything was done, I
<v Speaker 1>landed around one to eighty. Then I picked up fasting
<v Speaker 1>again around August of twenty twenty four to lose the
<v Speaker 1>baby weight. I've been comfortably doing a window of three
<v Speaker 1>to seven. I got down to one sixty and then
<v Speaker 1>I had an IUD put in. I've been stalled ever
<v Speaker 1>since then, about four months at one sixty. I've tried
<v Speaker 1>up days, down, days, everything. But I'm also noticing hormone craziness,
<v Speaker 1>potentially from the ied I'm starving fast or suddenly so
<v Speaker 1>hard again, and I'm one hundred percent sure my fast
<v Speaker 1>is spotless. I'm having terrible acne cysts, mood swings so bad.
<v Speaker 1>I ended up on medication, migrains, everything. I even took
<v Speaker 1>a pregnancy test because the symptoms felt when I got pregnant.
<v Speaker 1>So I guess my question is, does that mean that
<v Speaker 1>during this season, I might need to open my window
<v Speaker 1>a little earlier. Am I overfasting, which seems silly if
<v Speaker 1>my fasts were only around twenty hours, But I do
<v Speaker 1>think I had a hard time eating enough, opening with
<v Speaker 1>a meal and basically not wanting anything else the rest
<v Speaker 1>of the night. I have my black coffee, but when
<v Speaker 1>I break in the afternoon, I have a fancy coffee
<v Speaker 1>whipped cream cinnamon everything. Something I used to have every
<v Speaker 1>day now is a treat that satisfies my sweet teeth.
<v Speaker 1>It's really just iced coffee with cream served in a
<v Speaker 1>fancy way. Maybe I need to go back to two
<v Speaker 1>to seven until my hormone issues balance out and focus
<v Speaker 1>more on my food choices. I'm not sure, but the
<v Speaker 1>hormone issues are becoming hard to handle. Any advice would
<v Speaker 1>be super helpful. Thank you well.
<v Speaker 2>I think you may know that the answer to your
<v Speaker 2>issues is coming from the IUD. It sounds like you
<v Speaker 2>have a progesterone, a hormone IUD, and so I did
<v Speaker 2>do a little digging. And it's interesting because I tried
<v Speaker 2>this same IUD your's too, and I had PCO. I
<v Speaker 2>had PCOS and it made all of my symptoms of
<v Speaker 2>pcos worse funny story.
<v Speaker 1>I pulled my own. I ed out I did too.
<v Speaker 1>Never do that. I'm lit cheering, it's so funny. I
<v Speaker 1>was like, should I share that? Should I share that?
<v Speaker 1>Don't do that?
<v Speaker 2>Everybody gave it. I gave it three months. It was awful,
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, enough of this and I.
<v Speaker 1>Got rid of it. Yeah, and so don't do it. People, Well,
<v Speaker 1>we don't recommend it. I'm just saying no, it is
<v Speaker 1>not recommended.
<v Speaker 2>So you know, when I did a little digging, I
<v Speaker 2>found out that the pgestin hormone that is in the
<v Speaker 2>hormonal IUDs, it can actually increase androgens.
<v Speaker 1>And a lot of the symptoms.
<v Speaker 2>That you were talking about, like the acne and the
<v Speaker 2>mood swings and headaches and all of that, it really
<v Speaker 2>sounds like it's coming from that hormonal IUD. So I
<v Speaker 2>really think my best advice to you is have a
<v Speaker 2>really serious conversation with your healthcare provider about this. You know,
<v Speaker 2>maybe this is not the right birth control for you.
<v Speaker 2>And you know, when I look up there, I actually
<v Speaker 2>put a link in show notes, but I think I
<v Speaker 2>might actually put two link in show notes. I looked
<v Speaker 2>up a lot of stuff about this, and it's interesting
<v Speaker 2>where you look where you can really find this information.
<v Speaker 2>But it says that there are side effects that can
<v Speaker 2>start within a few weeks or months after it's been inserted.
<v Speaker 2>And some of the side effects that are known are acne,
<v Speaker 2>decreased libido, weight gain, depression, hair loss, and some of
<v Speaker 2>these are delayed side effects. And it says, you know,
<v Speaker 2>even for some people, they don't even start to notice
<v Speaker 2>these side effects until years after the assertion. But then
<v Speaker 2>when they take it out, I feel better and then,
<v Speaker 2>like another source stated that seven percent of users will
<v Speaker 2>experience depression while using a progester and IUD.
<v Speaker 1>And this is not bioidentical, right, No, this is like
<v Speaker 1>synthetic kind of woe for justin. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So, like I understand that birth control is important
<v Speaker 2>when you don't want to have babies, so definitely explore
<v Speaker 2>some other options for that, But I mean, you deserve
<v Speaker 2>to feel great. And you know, if this is really
<v Speaker 2>impacting you health wise, and that's impacting your weight and
<v Speaker 2>your hunger and all that, then that's going to affect
<v Speaker 2>your whole mood and how you feel about yourself and
<v Speaker 2>how you treat yourself and your energy and you like
<v Speaker 2>it all snowballs and you know, it all works together.
<v Speaker 2>So I really think my best advice is to have
<v Speaker 2>a conversation with your provider and explore other options.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, And I immediately started gaining a ton of
<v Speaker 1>weight when I had it. The Marina is the one
<v Speaker 1>that I had as well, and I just didn't feel good,
<v Speaker 1>like my body was like no, it just felt like terrible.
<v Speaker 1>I can't even it's been a long long time. It
<v Speaker 1>felt terrible. And I already had both my boys at
<v Speaker 1>that point, and so, and I didn't want to keep
<v Speaker 1>taking birth control pills. You know, we didn't know, or
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know as much about birth control synthetic birth
<v Speaker 1>control as I do now. Really honestly, Tabitha Barber's taught
<v Speaker 1>me a lot about the hormonal birth control and the
<v Speaker 1>synthetic hormones and how they impact a woman's body. And
<v Speaker 1>you know, I might would have gone back and done
<v Speaker 1>a lot of things differently, but I somehow knew I
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to keep taking birth control pills. So it's
<v Speaker 1>part of it was convenient me too, you know, but
<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to keep taking it. I'm like, huh,
<v Speaker 1>you know, I just don't think so so the the
<v Speaker 1>ID seemed like a better choice, but the hormonal part
<v Speaker 1>of it, you know, maybe made it a less good
<v Speaker 1>choice than a traditional i D. I'm not sure, but
<v Speaker 1>what I decided to do eventually is I knew I
<v Speaker 1>wasn't going to have any more kids, so I had
<v Speaker 1>a tuble likeation was for me a way of you know,
<v Speaker 1>not having to put anything else, you know, in there
<v Speaker 1>in my body and just you know, I wouldn't have
<v Speaker 1>the risk of getting pregnant without having to take anything.
<v Speaker 1>But you may not be done yet having kids. You
<v Speaker 1>might want to come back and have more kids, so
<v Speaker 1>obviously that wouldn't be the solution for you. But yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't think that. You know, it's different now.
<v Speaker 2>It must be fasting that's got to change, because you
<v Speaker 2>were doing all right till you got the IUD.
<v Speaker 1>So I just think that's that's really important. And going
<v Speaker 1>back to what worked really well for you before is
<v Speaker 1>what I would recommend. Also about that coffee that you
<v Speaker 1>open with, you know, you mentioned that you were not
<v Speaker 1>eating enough, and if you're opening with a really, really
<v Speaker 1>calorie dense coffee with cream, you're right that that could
<v Speaker 1>you know, make your appetite not really be there. You're like,
<v Speaker 1>you're not hungry, and think about what your body needs
<v Speaker 1>for nutrition over the course of the day, and I
<v Speaker 1>would prioritize that you need nutral. Yet it's not creamy coffee.
<v Speaker 1>So I would stop with that creamy coffee as much
<v Speaker 1>as you enjoy it, and open with food and prioritize
<v Speaker 1>eating real food. That's just my suggestion with that.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was going to bring that up as well
<v Speaker 2>when I saw that at the end, I know, we
<v Speaker 2>love the comfort of our creamy coffee and we love
<v Speaker 2>the comfort of our creamy treats. I got a little
<v Speaker 2>hooked on these little coconuts popsicles to close my window,
<v Speaker 2>and I mean, they're not awful, but it was just
<v Speaker 2>a habit I didn't need, and when I noticed, it
<v Speaker 2>became a habit and it was something I kept wanting
<v Speaker 2>to reach for at then of my window. I just
<v Speaker 2>like stopped buying them because I was like, I don't
<v Speaker 2>need that. It's not providing any nutrient. It's just delicious
<v Speaker 2>and creamy and it makes me happy, right, but it's
<v Speaker 2>also not meeting the needs I have right now for
<v Speaker 2>my body.
<v Speaker 1>If somebody is like maintaining their weight and happy where
<v Speaker 1>they are, then that's one thing. But if your goal
<v Speaker 1>is weight loss, then find something else. Like I am
<v Speaker 1>not anti dairy, so I don't want anyone to ever
<v Speaker 1>think like dairy is literally my favorite food group. But
<v Speaker 1>dairy is a food that is designed for growth, because
<v Speaker 1>that's what it's for. It's for baby mammals to grow.
<v Speaker 1>It's growth promoting. So if you're having a great deal
<v Speaker 1>of creamy, milky treats in your window and you're not
<v Speaker 1>losing any weight, that might be the first place to
<v Speaker 1>look because you can take that out very, very easily.
<v Speaker 1>Like here's an example for me. Yesterday I opened my
<v Speaker 1>window and I just felt like I needed a little
<v Speaker 1>something else.
<v Speaker 2>But I wasn't really hungry, but my mouth wanted something,
<v Speaker 2>And so that might be the.
<v Speaker 1>Time when you turn to something like a creamy coffee. Right.
<v Speaker 1>But I have this chai tea, these tea bags, chai
<v Speaker 1>tea bags that I bought. They're not for during the
<v Speaker 1>fast but during my eating window and when I first
<v Speaker 1>bought them because I love a chai latte on the
<v Speaker 1>rare occasion that I'm out and about my windows open
<v Speaker 1>me too. They're so good. I love those flavors. So
<v Speaker 1>when I bought the chai tea bags, I thought I
<v Speaker 1>might would be adding stuff to it in my window.
<v Speaker 1>I thought I might be adding like honey or a
<v Speaker 1>little bit of something creamy. So the first time I
<v Speaker 1>brewed it up, I was like, let me just see
<v Speaker 1>what it tastes like with nothing added, And to my surprise,
<v Speaker 1>it was delicious. I didn't need to add a sweetener,
<v Speaker 1>I didn't need to add anything creamy. So I can
<v Speaker 1>have a Chai tea during my eating window when I
<v Speaker 1>just need a little something warm and soothing, and I'm
<v Speaker 1>not adding any kind of I don't want to say
<v Speaker 1>the empty calories, right, but you know what I need.
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot if I were adding heavy cream to it.
<v Speaker 1>That's a lot of fuel right there that I might
<v Speaker 1>not need.
<v Speaker 2>So right, yeah, and too, you know, you say you're
<v Speaker 2>having a hard time eating enough, but then somewhere else
<v Speaker 2>you said that you're starving.
<v Speaker 1>I wonder if she's starving in the fast, like hungry
<v Speaker 1>during the fast, then she has the coffee, then she's
<v Speaker 1>not hungry, and though so she's not eating enough food,
<v Speaker 1>that could be both happening.
<v Speaker 2>It's that or you know, Zovoloft is known to increase
<v Speaker 2>hung as well. So you've got a couple of things
<v Speaker 2>going on there. Lots to dig into, Yeah, lots to
<v Speaker 2>dig into, and I think it you'd really be it'd
<v Speaker 2>be helpful for you if you could maybe go back
<v Speaker 2>to kind of like baseline and then work on adjusting
<v Speaker 2>and seeing how you feel and adapt from there. But yeah,
<v Speaker 2>you deserved to feel great, and it sounds like you
<v Speaker 2>were until some changes occurred. So do some dig in
<v Speaker 2>and see what you can come up with. All right,
<v Speaker 2>So we have a question from Rachel in New Hampshire.
<v Speaker 2>She said, hello, ladies, love your podcast. I have been
<v Speaker 2>fast and clean for about four years now and I
<v Speaker 2>love the way it makes me feel. I am fifty
<v Speaker 2>five years old, five nine, two hundred and fifteen pounds
<v Speaker 2>of today. When I hit menopause about five years ago,
<v Speaker 2>I gained weight and I'm having the hardest time losing.
<v Speaker 2>I'm on HRT. I have no thyroid and I take
<v Speaker 2>daily prescription for that along with multi vitamins. I exercise,
<v Speaker 2>I do some weight resistance train walking. I could definitely
<v Speaker 2>be more, but I am consistent. Every week, I fast
<v Speaker 2>about twenty hours a day and I try to keep
<v Speaker 2>my window about four hours. I like to keep my
<v Speaker 2>gluten low if possible, but just because I feel better eating.
<v Speaker 1>Less of it.
<v Speaker 2>I've tried ADF but not regularly. I also struggle with
<v Speaker 2>the up day, but the fast of thirty six to
<v Speaker 2>forty two hours or so makes me feel great. I
<v Speaker 2>do find that I may be over restricting some days
<v Speaker 2>because I feel like I am so hungry when I
<v Speaker 2>open my window.
<v Speaker 1>For the first two hours or so.
<v Speaker 2>I don't feel like I overeat, but sometimes I feel
<v Speaker 2>like I can't get enough, if that makes sense.
<v Speaker 1>I just feel confused.
<v Speaker 2>I know it's not all about the scale, but I
<v Speaker 2>want to be back down where I feel more comfortable.
<v Speaker 2>I really pay attention to what I eat if it
<v Speaker 2>satisfies me, etc. Back in twenty nineteen, I lost about
<v Speaker 2>fifty pounds doing low carblow sugar. I am so diligent
<v Speaker 2>with my clean fast routine. Am I being too diligent?
<v Speaker 2>Is menopause really the factor here? I won't stop fasting,
<v Speaker 2>but I just feel defeated by the scale. Any suggestions
<v Speaker 2>for me, thanks so much?
<v Speaker 1>All right, So I'm looking at the dates here. So
<v Speaker 1>you said that you hit menopause about five years ago,
<v Speaker 1>which is right right when I was hitting it too.
<v Speaker 1>We're the same age. Fifty one is the average age
<v Speaker 1>of menopause. But right before that, you had just lost
<v Speaker 1>fifty pounds doing low carblow sugar. So you lost fifty
<v Speaker 1>pounds before menopause, which means that you were having some
<v Speaker 1>struggles with your weight prior to that. Before so you
<v Speaker 1>had some trouble with your weight, you did low carblow sugar,
<v Speaker 1>went through menopause and gained all the weight back. And
<v Speaker 1>even if you hadn't gone through menopause, it's very very
<v Speaker 1>common if we lose weight using a strategy, then we
<v Speaker 1>stopped doing that strategy, it's really common to gain the
<v Speaker 1>weight back. So we got two variables going on here
<v Speaker 1>at the same time. We've got you went through menopause
<v Speaker 1>and you stopped with the low car blow sugar, and
<v Speaker 1>so both going through menopause and changing back to how
<v Speaker 1>you had been eating could cause weight gain. You've been
<v Speaker 1>fasting cleaned for four years, so I guess about a
<v Speaker 1>year after that weight loss you went back to or
<v Speaker 1>you started intermittent fasting. Is that how you're interpreting it, sharing.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I like, I'm not really sure. When her weight
<v Speaker 2>gain happened because.
<v Speaker 1>Well, she said she started gaining weight five years ago,
<v Speaker 1>so it sounds like to me, like, okay, right now,
<v Speaker 1>it's two six years ago years yep, and then five
<v Speaker 1>years ago she started gaining weight. Those two things kind
<v Speaker 1>of go at this. They're kind of all happening at
<v Speaker 1>the same time, but any of those can cause weight gain.
<v Speaker 1>But it sounds like the fasting has not been sufficient
<v Speaker 1>to get the scale to move. So she's usually about
<v Speaker 1>a four hour eating window, and the scale has not
<v Speaker 1>moved with a four hour window. So it sounds to
<v Speaker 1>me that the four hour window Rachel is not going
<v Speaker 1>to be your weight loss approach for multiple reasons, whatever
<v Speaker 1>that might be. And metabolic rate adapting to that window,
<v Speaker 1>that's one thing that could happen. If you're not losing weight,
<v Speaker 1>then that's likely and that is when we would recommend ADF.
<v Speaker 1>So if you're feeling both of sense of like you
<v Speaker 1>are overeating but also not eating enough, that could be
<v Speaker 1>your body saying hmm, this isn't really the right nutrition
<v Speaker 1>for me. The urge to binge can be related to
<v Speaker 1>not feeding your body what it needs. So I don't
<v Speaker 1>really know if it feels like a binge. I'm not
<v Speaker 1>really sure, but I really do think that it is
<v Speaker 1>time to think about ADF. I know you said that
<v Speaker 1>you struggle with the update, and I get it. But
<v Speaker 1>you said the fast of thirty six to forty tw
<v Speaker 1>hours makes you feel great, So I would think of
<v Speaker 1>it as thirty six twelve, don't try to get to
<v Speaker 1>forty two or not trying to fast as long as
<v Speaker 1>we can. I would do a thirty six twelve if
<v Speaker 1>you said you enjoy the fast, you are you know
<v Speaker 1>the fast makes you feel great thirty six hours, then
<v Speaker 1>have twelve hour upday repeat, see how that goes, and
<v Speaker 1>really nourish your body well. And you know that your
<v Speaker 1>body responded really well to low car blow sugar. And
<v Speaker 1>I will say this, after menopause, we do have to
<v Speaker 1>be more diligent with what we eat. That is just
<v Speaker 1>the truth, and that is annoying. You know, I wrote
<v Speaker 1>both of my biggest books delayed on denying, fast, feast repeat,
<v Speaker 1>prior to going through menopause, so I had not had
<v Speaker 1>that experience yet. But as I've gone through menopause, I
<v Speaker 1>do have to be more mindful of what I eat
<v Speaker 1>on the side of things, and that is a fact.
<v Speaker 1>That you know, I've just realized.
<v Speaker 2>So what do you think, Harry, I was noticing the
<v Speaker 2>same thing as that.
<v Speaker 1>She said.
<v Speaker 2>You know that she feels great doing the lung fast,
<v Speaker 2>And if you feel great doing the longer fast, then
<v Speaker 2>I think doing ADF for four to three is a
<v Speaker 2>great strategy for you. I would encourage you to it
<v Speaker 2>for like six weeks.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, commit six weeks.
<v Speaker 2>Because the first few weeks you're figuring it out. You
<v Speaker 2>don't have your rhythm down yet, you're still learning how
<v Speaker 2>to eat on the upday. You say you struggle on
<v Speaker 2>the upday. I'm not sure where you struggle, But the
<v Speaker 2>most common place that most people struggle is a fear
<v Speaker 2>that they're over eating and they're afraid to eat three
<v Speaker 2>full bountiful meals in that window. And they have this
<v Speaker 2>fear that they're overeating and they're doing it wrong. And
<v Speaker 2>if that is where you're struggling, then you can put
<v Speaker 2>that fear to rest. Based off of the years of
<v Speaker 2>you know, moderating the Facebook community and then working in
<v Speaker 2>our community, I do not think I've ever told a
<v Speaker 2>person you are eating too much on your up day.
<v Speaker 2>It's not happening. More often we tell people they need
<v Speaker 2>it more on their upday. And you know the only
<v Speaker 2>thing I would say is you do have to pay
<v Speaker 2>attention to your food quality on your update. There is
<v Speaker 2>sort of this thought that some people have of well,
<v Speaker 2>I fasted thirty six hours. I can eat whatever I
<v Speaker 2>want now. But if you're looking for metabolic health, you know,
<v Speaker 2>somebody was doing ADF and noticed that their fasting insulin
<v Speaker 2>got higher in their A one C got higher and
<v Speaker 2>they wanted to know why on you know, ADF was
<v Speaker 2>their numbers going backwards. But that's where food quality really
<v Speaker 2>comes into play. And so it's not a free past
<v Speaker 2>to eat jump food. What's the word I'm looking for.
<v Speaker 2>Irresponsibly Yeah, so you know, fuel responsibly, make beautiful meals,
<v Speaker 2>eat to sotiety. That is what you're supposed to be doing.
<v Speaker 2>That's your assignment.
<v Speaker 1>We're not supposed to be eating like we're dieting on
<v Speaker 1>the update. But we're also not supposed to eat like
<v Speaker 1>we're a freshman at the college dorm who's been let
<v Speaker 1>loose on the meal plan. Right, We're supposed to eat
<v Speaker 1>real food, good food, a nice breakfast to nice lunch
<v Speaker 1>and nice dinner. And some people are like, I mean,
<v Speaker 1>I'm not allowed to snack. Yeah, but I mean, like
<v Speaker 1>what you snack on matters. Like if I had some
<v Speaker 1>pea bread with hummus, that's a healthy snack, Versus if
<v Speaker 1>I had a bag of potato chips, that is not
<v Speaker 1>a healthy snack. Right, So, just saying the word snack,
<v Speaker 1>for some reason, people think snack and they think of
<v Speaker 1>like Doritos and snacky junkie foods. Right. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>I mean I love to snack on nuts and cheese
<v Speaker 2>and crackers, but I know that that doesn't support my
<v Speaker 2>health and weight goals, and so I can't. I can't
<v Speaker 2>do that. It doesn't matter how long I've been fasting.
<v Speaker 2>There's not room for that on a routine basis in
<v Speaker 2>my life. Do I eat cheese and crackers sometimes? Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>And when I do, I'm probably on vacation because it's
<v Speaker 2>just not something that supports my goal. So it's not
<v Speaker 2>something I snack on.
<v Speaker 1>Oh, can I say my new favorite snack? What the
<v Speaker 1>Lantana brand chocolate hummus? What do you dip in it?
<v Speaker 1>Pretzels or strawberryess? Oh? Okay, strawberries would be good. Strawberries
<v Speaker 1>are great, but I do great with pretzels, And you know,
<v Speaker 1>I love that little salty crunchy but like, yeah, oh yeah,
<v Speaker 1>after I've had whatever, I have to open my window
<v Speaker 1>and I need just a little something sweet. Lantana is
<v Speaker 1>the best. It's like it's a dark chocolate Lantana dark
<v Speaker 1>chocolate Hummus. We're not sponsored by Lantana. They don't know
<v Speaker 1>we exist. But it is so good and it's it's clean.
<v Speaker 1>It's pretty clean as far as the ingredients goes. It's
<v Speaker 1>sweetened with like dates or whatever or maybe some little
<v Speaker 1>agaviy sorrup, but does not give me restless legs.
<v Speaker 2>Have you ever heard of wassa crisp bread?
<v Speaker 1>I have.
<v Speaker 2>They're like little whole grain crackery things. Yeah, they're like
<v Speaker 2>the size of like maybe like a candy bar, Hershey's
<v Speaker 2>bar or something.
<v Speaker 1>That's what I like to eat.
<v Speaker 2>When I want something like like your chocolate hummus or
<v Speaker 2>some Cranberryjalipino cream cheese at the Christmas time or whatever.
<v Speaker 1>I have to try the waa.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're good and they're not you know, they're pretty
<v Speaker 2>just like simple ingredients and yeah, I'm looking at it
<v Speaker 2>right now. Whole grain rye flowers, sourdough oat flakes.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I pulled out the chocolate pummus when my friends
<v Speaker 1>were visiting, and like, one of my college friends is like, no,
<v Speaker 1>I cannot eat chocolate beans. I'm like, I promise you
<v Speaker 1>it's delicious. It just sounds grossy, but it tastes like
<v Speaker 1>brownie batter. I mean it is so good, so good.
<v Speaker 2>Well, okay, And I also have a crunchy thing, like
<v Speaker 2>I crave crunchy. It you do.
<v Speaker 1>I don't get crunchy in my window. I'm gonna be
<v Speaker 1>like a caged animal, Like what do I have? Crunchy?
<v Speaker 2>And so I like to keep these because they're like
<v Speaker 2>crisp and crunchy. I just looked it up. It's one
<v Speaker 2>of them is forty five calories, zero fat, three grams
<v Speaker 2>of fiber.
<v Speaker 1>Not that we're telling y'all to count calories everybody.
<v Speaker 2>I'm so what I'm saying is this would be healthier
<v Speaker 2>snack than crackers, wheat bends or something like that. So
<v Speaker 2>you know there are healthy snacks out there. You can
<v Speaker 2>sub out some foods and incorporate healthy snacking in your window. Absolutely,
<v Speaker 2>all right, Well, before we get to the tweak of
<v Speaker 2>the week, I just wanted to share a bit about
<v Speaker 2>some of the products and services that I use in
<v Speaker 2>my effort to live a clean and healthy lifestyle. Clean
<v Speaker 2>skincare and protecting my skin from sun damage is super
<v Speaker 2>important to me. What I put on my body is
<v Speaker 2>as important to me as what I put in it.
<v Speaker 2>I've long been a sunshine lover, yet I am allergic
<v Speaker 2>to chemical sunscreens. Nantels to say, but my forties I
<v Speaker 2>had significant sun damage. Using the right skincare regimen has
<v Speaker 2>done wonders for my skin, and people who know me
<v Speaker 2>now have no idea the links I used to go
<v Speaker 2>to to cover up my skin. Now I really use foundation,
<v Speaker 2>but rather I use a tinted sunscreen on my face.
<v Speaker 2>I'm loving crunchy sunlight tinted sunscreen for everyday where it
<v Speaker 2>comes in five shades. It melts into your skin last
<v Speaker 2>all day, and it contains vitamin C and hydrators for bright,
<v Speaker 2>moisturized and pumped skin. And as for what I put
<v Speaker 2>in my body, I'm really enjoying green Chef right now
<v Speaker 2>and I rotate it with Hungry Root, which makes getting
<v Speaker 2>plenty of good organic veggies and quality sustainable source proteins easy.
<v Speaker 2>Depending on what my week has in store and how
<v Speaker 2>much time I have to cook that week. One or
<v Speaker 2>the other of these companies provides just what I need
<v Speaker 2>to eat, healthy, delicious food. So you can learn more
<v Speaker 2>about these companies and more on our website at fast
<v Speaker 2>Feast repeat dot com. Slash Sherry that's s H E
<v Speaker 2>R I one R or with the Lincoln Show notes
<v Speaker 2>for this episode. And look at my skin right now, Jan,
<v Speaker 2>it looks really good. I fee, I don't want to
<v Speaker 2>see me an you give my crazy spot. No, it
<v Speaker 2>looks good.
<v Speaker 1>I'm still I'm on cheeks, but I've been out in
<v Speaker 1>the sun with nice unscreat s. Y'a pink, I am?
<v Speaker 1>I do see that You're a little pink.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's like I'm craving the sun on my skin
<v Speaker 1>right now because it's been winter. We're recording this in
<v Speaker 1>the middle of March. Oh me too.
<v Speaker 2>I took my rebounder out before we're recorded, and I'm
<v Speaker 2>smoking in the sun.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, tinted sunscreen on.
<v Speaker 2>I went out and rebounded in the sun and it
<v Speaker 2>was only in the forties people, and I don't go
<v Speaker 2>outside when it's forty, but I saw that sunshine and
<v Speaker 2>I was.
<v Speaker 1>Like, I've got to get out there. Yeah, and yeah,
<v Speaker 1>before long it's going to be too hot for me
<v Speaker 1>to sit in this. Yeah, so you're doing it? Now
<v Speaker 1>is the time? Yeah? So now it's time for our
<v Speaker 1>tweak of the week. You know, I always say tweak
<v Speaker 1>it till it's easy. But the tweak that works for
<v Speaker 1>me might not be the one that works for you.
<v Speaker 1>And that's why it's super helpful to hear how other
<v Speaker 1>intermittent fasters are making intermittent fasting work for them. This
<v Speaker 1>is from Lark from Denmark. I have a tweak for
<v Speaker 1>the black coffee that I've never heard mentioned before, and
<v Speaker 1>I've listened to a lot of episodes of this the
<v Speaker 1>IF podcast and intermittent fasting stories, as well as read
<v Speaker 1>just about anything under the sun about fasting. I've tried
<v Speaker 1>the salt thing and I didn't find it to help
<v Speaker 1>with the bitterness. It just tasted weird to me. I
<v Speaker 1>am with you, Lark. For anybody who doesn't know what
<v Speaker 1>Lark is talking about, there's some people swear by putting
<v Speaker 1>a few sprinkles of salt in your coffee grounds to
<v Speaker 1>brew your coffee, and they say it cuts the bitterness,
<v Speaker 1>but it just made it taste weird to me. Did
<v Speaker 1>you try it Sherry.
<v Speaker 2>I can't hardly taste salt, so I wouldn't notice, don't
<v Speaker 2>I didn't.
<v Speaker 1>It made it taste weird. Anyway, I put salt my
<v Speaker 1>water and I can't even taste it. No I can,
<v Speaker 1>so Lark says the tweak. I use carbonated water instead
<v Speaker 1>of milk in my coffee. It really rounds off the taste.
<v Speaker 1>You don't get the fizziness, but the feel of the
<v Speaker 1>coffee is light and soft. I don't know how else
<v Speaker 1>to describe it. It makes a frothy foam on top,
<v Speaker 1>and although it disappears within a minute or so, it
<v Speaker 1>feels very decadent to have a delicious, foamy, soft feeling
<v Speaker 1>and almost sweet tasting black coffee. Fun fact. In Denmark
<v Speaker 1>we call carbonated water densk vond. I hope I said
<v Speaker 1>that close to right, which I would Danish water. Thank
<v Speaker 1>you for the podcast and the company on my commute
<v Speaker 1>to work each morning. So oh, Schery had to say
<v Speaker 1>something else, spark, I know Sherry does that all the time.
<v Speaker 2>It's called soda espresso or yeah espress soda. I've seen
<v Speaker 2>it called different things, but I do cold brew and
<v Speaker 2>soda water or sparkling water or I do hot and
<v Speaker 2>sparkling water sometimes. Well, it's good that this came out
<v Speaker 2>because there's something I need to share about sparkling water.
<v Speaker 1>And when I accidentally was replying to someone and I
<v Speaker 1>told her about mop sparkling water, spark sparkling mop water,
<v Speaker 1>I phone auto created. She's like, sparkling mop water. I'm like, no,
<v Speaker 1>do not drink moss so delicious. Yeah, gross, do not
<v Speaker 1>drink drink sparkling mop water. Sorry, I don't know where
<v Speaker 1>that mop came from. My phone decided to insert it.
<v Speaker 1>But Sherry, somebody was going to drink some sparkling water
<v Speaker 1>somewhere and she's like, I'm gonna get the sparkling water.
<v Speaker 1>It's like at a restaurant. She's like, and the ingredients
<v Speaker 1>are such and such and such citric as citric acid.
<v Speaker 1>I saw that she was no, No, some Brothers coffee,
<v Speaker 1>Dutch Brother's coffee, sparkling water. So I thought we needed
<v Speaker 1>to mention this. Apparently we need to check because I
<v Speaker 1>would have just ordered it without even thinking. And so
<v Speaker 1>y'all stop putting citric acid in everything. I'm saying this
<v Speaker 1>to the manufacturers. Citric acid adds a tangy citrus flavor.
<v Speaker 1>We don't want that. So I'm so glad that she
<v Speaker 1>read the ingredients because I would have said, yeah, sparkling water,
<v Speaker 1>aslong as its plane, it's just fine. Read the ingredients everybody. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Now they have added minerals if its potassium or magnesium,
<v Speaker 2>or sodiad or.
<v Speaker 1>Whatever, sodium bicarbonate added for pivate, it's fine. You just
<v Speaker 1>don't want citric acid or natural flavors added anyway, one
<v Speaker 1>more thing for us to worry about. Darn it. Why
<v Speaker 1>I know. I mean, just keep it simple, manufacturers. We
<v Speaker 1>don't want all the added stuff. But I guess people
<v Speaker 1>really do. People need it to taste like something. We
<v Speaker 1>don't want it to, but the public is used to that. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>She even posted like the ingredient list or something that
<v Speaker 2>I think she pulled off of maybe the website or something,
<v Speaker 2>and they actually had a description of why they add
<v Speaker 2>citric acid, and it was to add some sort of
<v Speaker 2>flavor to the water. I'm like, no, yeah, I did
<v Speaker 2>see that.
<v Speaker 1>All right.
<v Speaker 2>Well, we loved to leave you guys with inspiration or
<v Speaker 2>motivational quotes, and this week we have a quote from
<v Speaker 2>Ann quote is you are a reminder that progress looks
<v Speaker 2>different for everyone. What matters most is not how fast
<v Speaker 2>you move, but that you keep going. Your courage to try,
<v Speaker 2>fail and try again is what makes you truly unstoppable.
<v Speaker 2>And wrote, keep learning, keep moving, and through fasting, find
<v Speaker 2>the strength to pursue your goals with renewed focus and purpose.
<v Speaker 1>I love that me too. Thanks so much for listening today.
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