FT Postgame Reax w/Buck Showalter: Game 7 is happening! Dodgers put a lid on tense Game 6, What’s next?

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Speaker 1: Of course there is a game seven during a world series like this, it's been epic.

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Speaker 2: Scotty Brown aircrats.

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Speaker 1: Buck show Walter with us for a little buck to overtalk Buck, let's first recap what we saw here in game six? Your thoughts to the ending of this one as a long time former skipper, Well.

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Speaker 3: My first thought is can Glass now pitch tomorrow? What do you throw three pitches for?

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Speaker 2: Thank you guess that's.

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Speaker 3: My first thought. I think everybody's on Beck. You know, I understand the base from you know, you're trying to score on this things even though there's one out and you just get a bad read. But my first thought is how the three or four plays that Rojas made tonight? You know how hard that pick is that he made to end the game and he caught. You know, Eric and I were talking about before he went on the air, the two rockets he had hit at him that looked like routine plays that are so hard with people on base. And he may not have got in three or four hits and made a big contribution, but boy, what a contribution he made defensively. What'd you guys.

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Speaker 4: See same same You're sitting there going is this gonna work out offensively. Well, what did it show you? Nope, it didn't. But to me, I think it's it has the potential to work out offensively, and you're not getting downgraded at all. Maybe. I mean, I can't say Miguel Rojas is better than Tommy Edmond at second because Tommy Edmond does have a gold glove at second base, but the potential to like make a good swing put the ball in play. I love this move. I loved it. I loved everything. Dave Roberts hit was perfect.

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Speaker 3: You know, Eric, What's funny but is, unless you've been in a locker room and you understand the status that a guy like him carries and you need a little bit of a calming influence in a game like this of win or go home, and to have his presence on the field, that's something you can't look at analytically. It's a feel thing that you know what he's gonna mean from a calming influence to some of those players, they'rether thing I saw too. They made a big deal about Moogie Bets dropping from third to fourth. Wait a minute, the guy's hitting clean up in the World Series. It's not I like their batting order better because it presents more problems for the bullpen because of the left right that they lined up with as opposed to the back to back guys that are certain that one pitcher can face in a key situation. By splitting those guys up, it actually made it tougher for Toronto's bullpen.

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Speaker 4: Wait, Buck, I'm looking up on my analytics status sheet here. No, no, no, no, there's there's no place for a guy like Miguel Row Like his numbers don't say he should be in there, So there's I don't I don't know what you're talking about. Buck. Sorry, Sorry, it doesn't work out, does it.

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Speaker 3: You know, the biggest biggest challenge in the game nowadays is evaluating the impact of defense proper You know, all you got to do is look at some of the Gold Glove finalists and you go him really so, you know, however they're equiting it. I've always said, if you want a job for life in baseball, learn how to properly equate the good defenders. I think the Fielding Bible had it right for a while. They were the closest to being correct as I've seen in a while. That's another subject for another The other thing that hit me is how good a player Will Smith is. We didn't play them a whole lot, but every time we played them, I went, this guy can really play. First round pick out of Louisville. He gets a lot of key at bats for them. When you've got a catcher that can hit fourth, you're so much ahead of the other team's offense.

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Speaker 1: But first off, I was I was laughing. I was laughing about what you said. Yeah, you look at some Gold Glove finalist situations, and lucky for us, we do two hours every day so we get to have fun with that.

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Speaker 2: But I am so with you.

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Speaker 1: I want to get right to how a wedgie ball might have decided the fate of this ski.

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Speaker 3: That's what I told before we came home. As soon as it was yeah, I said, the Dodgers might win the whole world. Service was the ball got stuck in the wedge. We got a multi billion dollar industry. Why can't we get feels where stuff goes all the way to the bottom and that can't happen. We probably got a top ball game if that ball doesn't get wedged in there eventually. In that any that's the line right there.

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Speaker 1: We need to make sure the world here's that line, because the Dodgers go on the road to Toronto Crats where somehow we can't just fill the very bottom and there is a chance that balls can get stuck there. It's the bottom layer, guys. I don't know if you're aware of this. They didn't estimate it's a billion dollars now, I'm kidding. I mean, it probably costs like ten grand to fill the bottom.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why they do that.

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Speaker 1: You know, you always hear oh craps the nukes and crannies of the ballpark for that though.

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Speaker 4: No, that's not a nooks and cranny's thing. That's just a we didn't finish it thing. And hey, the new renovations they look nice, Buck. Didn't you see how many suites they put in in the stadium. There's so many more sweets. It's so much better fan experience. Wouldn't it have been a great fan experience if that ball hits hard and Barger's on third in a three to two game with nobody out.

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Speaker 3: You know what's funny is that a lot of these places they play other sports and other events there, so that's stuff. That stuff comes down and they have to put it back up at some point, you know, to get back into baseball mode. I'm not sure. I know it used to be that way when the Argonauts played there. I don't know if there's another team playing there now, or if they have a concert or something in that venue, they have to take that stuff down a lot of times and put it back up. So, you know, we used to be such sticklers about spring training making it safe. And I love the fact that it's padded, but you know, that's that's one that I just go, wow, we we shouldn't have that as part of the elements. It's like, you know, Eric, you go into certain ballparks, why aren't all the hitting backgrounds uniform? Why do you go to Fenway Park in a left hand and with a left handed pitcher in a day game and you can't see? I mean, why aren't all our hitting backgrounds uniform? Okay, I'm done, I'm done.

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Speaker 1: Wait wait, there's a fresh tweet from a center fielder who I know, you.

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Speaker 3: Know and love.

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Speaker 1: It came out actual seconds ago, Adam Jones tweet Uck Shoal Walter had us read the entire rule book when he got the job in Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: Reason was quote. I need you to know your field of work and always be prepared. Nothing should surprise you.

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Speaker 1: Are you an expert of your work or just do I mean, we're talking about this play and our buddy Adam literally tweets that, and he's probably who.

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Speaker 2: Knows where around the world.

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Speaker 1: So James Dean's got to get a lot of credit here, right, wouldn't you be going up to him first?

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Speaker 2: If you're Doc Roberts, like, there you go.

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Speaker 3: You know, we used to I used to catch a lot of green. But we would go over one or two rules every spring in the morning, like two guys standing on third base, who's out? Who's not out? Hey? To fine? What an infield flyery? What is it? Really? You know? Okay? What is running in a lane? Constitute if you're on the line or you're in the lane or you're not in the lane. But the more we went into them, the more I realize that a lot of people, including some coaches, didn't really know the rules. And hey, I learned something every spring too, because one they changed a lot. But it's amazing to me that you know, this isn't really a rule, but it's just a you know, one thing you should have your home ballpark, and really all the ballparks should be uniform. There should be certain quality control. Your batting cages should all be the same. Your mounds, if you think the mounds, Yeah, they go them around and measure them. But I've always been paranoid about them tweaking them. Say you're throwing half a foot shorter in the visiting bullpen. Always, we always measured them. First time we go into a visiting ballpark, we would measure the bullpens to make sure they were the same distance.

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Speaker 1: Well, Buck, what do you say to your outfielders for executing that perfectly? Because hey, I'm sure you know without naming names, some players that you've managed or some that you watch in today's.

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Speaker 2: Game, who would have not done the right thing in.

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Speaker 1: A crazy pressure situation in Toronto where it's loud as hell and you don't know that ballpark as well as your home park.

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Speaker 3: Well, if you if you go in there and dig that ball out Eric from the get go, you know, and not give them a chance to do that, you know, putting the hands up and then go in and get it. But if they can replay, I think they would have come back and gotten it right in today's game, they would have said, Okay, that's a wedge ball. But you know, sometimes I think you should just play it if you can, if you can grab it, you should play it. You know, it's part of the part of the game. But I think that that that's got a chance to go down as the wedgie ball that calls that hurt him in the World Series.

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Speaker 4: I hope not Buck tell me if I'm wrong, But the way I understand the rule, he goes in there without putting his hands up. There's no replay. That is a that is a played live ball. Am I correct?

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Speaker 3: I think I think they would have called it come back because they've got the outfield umpire that saw it. They were calling it fairly quickly. But I think that the trailer, I think it might have been the other outfielder and the outfielder both had their hands up and then they went and got it because they're a paranoid that they won't call it. But I think in the day's world replay would have come back and got that right in place. For runners, you know, you don't have to you don't have to not score the runner at third. Let's say he was running on that pitch. When was rounding second, when it you know, got over the infield, you know he's going to score easily. They can give him home.

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Speaker 4: Play because it didn't go out of play. It's it's umpire's discretion on that one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, hey, quick call out.

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Speaker 1: And then I want to get to pitching decision from game six eventually. Of course we're going to spin it to game seven for the end of our conversation, but please subscribe to file Territory if you're watching right now, that would be great, or if you're watching this on demand a little bit later on Baseball the way it should be covered, a nice little postgame show for you after a crazy Game seven finish or Game six finish. In Game seven, we're gonna talk about in a moment, but let's get to pitching decisions.

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Speaker 2: First off.

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Speaker 1: In Game six, Buck, do you like the way that Doc Roberts navigated his pitching situation. He does not have the easiest bullpen setup, it's no secret. And Yamamoto is a CG guy. We were getting used to see him in the night. When I didn't see him come out after six, I was like, wait, what seventh inning, he's already out? Were you okay with that, and then the rest of the way they won the game. I get that, but would you have let him eat another inning and get to one hundred and fifteen pitches?

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm so careful about you know, I'm not going to tell the pilot how to lie on a plane. There's so many things going on behind the scenes that we may not know about what he may have told them or his interpreter whatever. So you don't know everything was going on there. And you know they've seen him a lot, and I don't know what was said between innings. I think Eric was that you and I were talking earlier day that I think his last an outing not too long ago in Japan, he threw one hundred and thirty eight pitches. I mean, normally this guy's just getting loose at ninety five.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he's obviously they didn't run him like that during during the season, but I mean Dave Roberts even said early in the posting, He's like, this is what like we we were, Okay, we built him up to be at this spot right now. I think he's talking about thing he was talking about Blake Snell when he was talking about that and Yamamoto's come up big. I could not have been more surprised when he came out with ninety six pitches. I mean they had to have either seen something or they went and you know they were like, Okay, we pushed you last time, we don't want to push you again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, something could have been said between any you know, it's you know, I've had the interpreter walk over to me and say, Singer, I had, you know, different guys. I've had Coagi Yohara and just said, hey, he's not He's done, and you have to wear that as a manager. But it worked out well. You know that you made a good point, Eric, that they are without two of their better left handed two relievers in this in this series, and I think that kind of goes unnoticed. I tell you what Bassett through tonight, that that paints tomorrow with Max in a little different different light. But if I know, Chris, Chris, one of my favorite pictures I've had you talking about a baseball player who happens to be a pitcher instead of a pitcher who happens to be a baseball player.

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Speaker 2: I did you see that?

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Speaker 4: Sorry? Sorry Scott, did you see ah Man? Who was it? Lefty was up for the Dodgers anyway, and Bassett was like, Bassett looked over Ernie. He's like Ernie. Ernie Clement was in for the bunt, and he was like, Ernie, get back. The first pitch was a rocket to the left, foul ball the left field. Like, that's the kind of stuff to me that shows he knows what he needs to do.

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Speaker 3: He's a baseball player. And Chris is such a good fielding pitcher. He's basically saying, I got that. If they want to bunt this pitch, you know, the too sooner he's got that runs across the plate so hard to bunt anyway. And Chris is basically saying, if they want to bunt in this situation, I got it. You played back there and defend the bat. And that's why I said, he's a baseball player who happens to be a pitcher.

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Speaker 1: Thirteen pitches for Bassett. Tomorrow, again, we're going to get to Game seven. We're just going to do a few more minutes on Game six and then we will load up on what we think is going to go down in Game seven.

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Speaker 2: What did you think of the.

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Speaker 1: Dodgers finally putting up a crooked number buck. I mean, their offense had been a big storyline, and they put up three in the third and that was all they need. And Mookie Betts was kind of the face of the struggles and very vocal about it. Rips it, two strike, two run, single through the left side, makes it three to nothing, three consecutive fastballs up, gets on top of one. He had been in a three for twenty four slump in the World Series, and he comes through with the biggest hit of the game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I like how they said, and they dropped him to the cleanup spot, like they really dropped him way down, you know, boot Mookie is one of my favorite best right fielder I've ever seen. The way he played Fenway Park right field. That is such a hard right field to play, but he's you know, he's such an athletic guy. And the ability to go from right field to second base to shortstop and play at such a good level. You know, we talk about all the stuff that O'tani can do, you know, to be able to play right field at that level and play shortstop for a championship team, that's just amazing. I remember the first time I saw Mookie Betts that we were in I don't know the Fall League, and I remember this kid sat down and ate with me and I called Brian Butterfield. The Red Sox said, you know some guy named Mookie Bets. He goes, yeah, I've heard these pretty good players. I said, you might want to get to know him because sitting down and having lunch with him, he's pretty special. And that was just getting to know him as a person. But you know, anybody that doubts the heart of a guy like Mookie, he's never going to give in. And I think people miss how good the pitching is. This time of year, you're facing so good hitters are going to have peerods where they don't look real accomplished so to speak.

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Speaker 1: Chrass, did you feel like he clicked it back in? We talked a lot about his swing today on afternoon FT.

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Speaker 4: On that swing? Yeah, I mean, how did he get to that spot? Because they blew two fast balls by him. I get it, he's in a slump. I get it they've been getting him out. I think they went to the well won too many times and MOOKI made the adjustment on that pitch. I think it will show what happens. I mean later in the game. They threw him hanging slider that kind of backed up, and I know he took it, and I know he kind of like flinched at it, but it was he was late on it. He was late, and as he did it, it was like a man like. I still got to see Mookie get the ball out in front consistently. I want to see foul balls out in front, just like he pulled that heater up and in.

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Speaker 3: You know, you know, the great hitters can turn the clock up. They can. They know after taking a pitch or falling off a pitch. Hey, I've got to turn that dial up a little bit on that now. And like Eric said, it makes you more susceptible to an all speed pitch. But they pretty much showed him how they're trying to get him out and have been getting him out. But they know they have to turn the clock up a little bit. They just have an innate feel for it.

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Speaker 1: Hey, about last thing on game six, then we'll talk strategy for game seven. We're actually showing some Kevin Gosman in here. You managed him. I covered him a good amount when he was with Baltimore in his early days. You know, top pick for strander out of LSU, the whole deal. He is such a different human being in every level, in every way. You know this way better than I do. But that should tell it all I can tell from covering him from the outside. What can you tell us about what you've seen from him? I know they lost the game, but he kept him in it.

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Speaker 3: I'm so proud of Kevin. He's you know, it's funny. We were watching the game after trick or treating with our grand sons and my wife said to me, she says, boy, Kevin's come a long way. He is so different now, and not different necessarily stuff wise, but he's got just such a better face and such a better presentation of confidence on the mail and you know, it's it's fire, but it's control fire.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: You can tell he's competitive and he knows he can do this, but he knows there's a fine line there. I'm so proud of the way he's developed as a pitcher and as a competitor. Not that he wasn't competitive, It just I remember telling him, Kevin, you know how good you are and how good you can be. You know, don't let you know. These are the best players in the world. Don't let any thing out there that happens take away your confidence level that you can do this. You can you can really do this. And he's really evolved into a frontline guy, you know, having guys like Bassett Insures are around him, you know, he's really graduated to a solid major league guy you can count on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, he's part of the splitter revolution that is really in full force right now in the postseason.

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Speaker 2: It's been fun to watch and I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: I mean, just from covering him, you see the confidence factor through the roof these days, every time he walks on the mound chucking the gum. It's just it's a fun watch and you know he feels like, not just I belong here, but I'm going to dominate. And in the beginning of the game that was as good as it gets. I think we had never seen h strikeouts through three innings from a starting pitcher to start a World Series game.

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Speaker 2: So credit to the Dodgers.

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Speaker 1: They got to him, they got just enough, and they out pitched Toronto. But it was definitely cool. So now here we go. All right, let's set the stage. You got one word before, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Just want I'm going to go back to Adam Jones tweet or whatever y'all call it, is that what it is a tweet? I don't yeh okay, But Adam has such a curiosity. Here's a guy that was a major league, established veteran, but he had a curiosity about the rules, about ways to other ways to do things. And the great players have a curiosity. You know. He wasn't afraid. He was that guy that would raise his hand and ask a question, regardless of how he was asking the question that everybody else wanted to ask, but we're afraid to ask. Adam was never afraid, and that's why he was such a great player. Is he always had a curiosity for ways to get better. And that's why I had so much respect for him. So tonight's tweet doesn't surprise me because Adam is a student of the game.

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Speaker 1: He's fired up looking at that. I love it, and he wears it on his Twitter feed in a good way. I mean, he'll let you know how he's feeling good or bad every day. So that's good stuff. Adam's are, buddy, He's been on here many times. Okay, So Game seven winner, take all best two words in sports. Game seven live on the ft YouTube channel. Afterward, we will have a postgame show. Kratz will beyond, Trevor May will be on. It's going to be nuts. So now let's spin it forward. Okay, Buck, tell me everything we need to know heading into game seven, starting with strategy.

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Speaker 2: Like you said, you think glass Naw's going out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they kept his pitches to a minimum that he can be a big factor. I think we should start with shoe Otani though. I mean, this is the most unique player we've seen in our generation, and how are you going to use him in game seven? They said he wasn't available for game six, but he's available for game seven.

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Speaker 3: Well we think he is. You know, you never you know, dealing with the players from different cultures and different backgrounds. You know, and Dave and them know these guys, You've been with them too long, so you know what their buttons are. And there's not a whole lot of surprises this time year. But he I suspect he'll be ready. It'll be interesting to see if they you know, they're gonna sit down tonight after the smoke clears, and they're going to talk about what they can and what's because talking to players right now after the game with that much juice flying around is probably not a good idea. It's more about presenting scenarios and then approaching the players because you do need to let them know how you're going to use them. But immediately after the game is not a good time to talk about because they're all going to have this bravado going on and then they wake up tomorrow. I'll tell you. The first thing that hits me, Eric is playoff shares. Going seven games a little bit better? Playoff shares for everybody.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean we actually talked about that the top the first four games. The first four games go to the players, the last three go to the teams. The teams are like, so maybe whoever wins gets a nicer ring. But my question to you, Buck Show, Hey, do you just go like this. Do you just give him the ball and he says, I got your skip and you let him run?

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Speaker 3: What if what if you go start to hand it to him he goes, no, I don't think so. Maybe later in the game you gotta be careful about put pushing him into something he doesn't want to do. I'd be surprised if that's not the case, I'd be surprised that it may be glass Now with him picking him up. You know, who knows. You know, glass Now basically had a work day today, because I know he didn't have a workday at any point today. So that outing the problem is they don't have a day off, but a lot of guys two days before they pitch have a workday. So you know, I think their choices are glass Now or Tani, but both of them are going to pitch in that game tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: The rule, the rule that Major League Baseball has out there, there's no way, in my opinion, there's no way they don't start show Hey, because if they go glass Now, clearly they're fine with glass Now coming in out of the pen, his long three pitch outing that he had tonight. But to me, like you start show Hay and then you go everybody else. You might you might say, I get three from show Hey, I get you know, three outs from show Hey, whatever it is. But I just I don't see them trying to manipulate moving in the right field after he comes in to relieve. But this is this is the drama that we want show Hay pitching in Game seven. We're gonna get it. I'm I'm no doubt we're gonna get it.

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Speaker 3: You know, I've got one other question to ask you. Would you be a little concern if you were Dave Roberts about your so called closer tonight. I know that you push the envelope on him with the second inning. Do you feel any differently about him struggling somewhat tonight about pitching at the end of the game.

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Speaker 4: The more my issue, and I know the team doesn't strike out much. My issue with it is he had a full inning pitch. There was an inning plus so inning plus two hitters, so he faced five, six, seven, seven hitters and zero.

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Speaker 3: What do you though about thirty pitches somewhere around there.

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Speaker 4: I'm not as concerned about the pitches. I'm concerned about the fact that that splitter thing was not full of them because it's not a splitter. It's a fork ball. Let's just let's just be honest. It doesn't spin enough. It's almost a knuckleball. It spins still little. But I'm you have to go to them. Dave Roberts doesn't have anything else. Dave Roberts can't get through tomorrow's game with show Hey glass now Kershaw for one out, Like, where's he gonna get his outs? Is my question, because that's you know, that's on the manager. I'm just the player. You're the manager, Buck.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I don't know their players, but I agree. I agree with you. I think you're gonna see, let's see what we can get out of Otani. Let's see how far we can take it, unless there's something in the conversation in there that that sets it up differently. They know their player and they know, you know, what's being said. I try to give them that respect, but it looks like that on paper. I agree with you. I think Toronto's the one that you know. You got Beaber there, you got Bassett will come back, and you got Shureser. Don't ever underestimate, you know. I had a number of people tell me before one of the games, and I said, do not sell shures or short you know, I'd like to know what his sleep. You know those things you wear on your hand that tells you how much sleep you got the night before. I wonder what Shres is gonna look like tonight.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna look like this.

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Speaker 1: The thing's gonna break. What are you talking about? That thing broke? If you try and put anything on him, it will break. He probably will chuck it against the ball. He's so excited.

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Speaker 3: Without giving up too much information, I know Max too well. He's got a complete ritual the night before he pitches that he does getting his sleep. He I tell you what, you want to catch the wrath somehow get to his room and disrupt his routine of sleeping the night before a game. He's got it down to the science.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure. And he's been doing it for a while.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So in a perfect world, if the Dodgers win, Dave Roberts is like, cool, I get three or four out of show.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I get four or five out of glass.

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Speaker 3: Now that's it.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I needed Rokie for one at the buzzer and on the Toronto side.

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Speaker 2: What's the perfect world?

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Speaker 3: Is it?

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Speaker 2: Max?

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Speaker 1: Then handing the ball to Bieber, then handing the ball to Bassett and maybe Hoffman if you need.

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Speaker 3: Yep, I agree with you. That's about the way I see it. How do you see it?

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Speaker 4: Eric, I actually might flip it. I might flip it. I don't know that. Max. Obviously a conversation. These are buck conversations that are happening throughout the playoffs and the season. I might go Bieber. I might go Bieber fever started out and then Max.

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Speaker 3: Well, that means Bieber is going to start on short rest and Max is coming off normal rest, right, yep.

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Speaker 4: Because I'm thinking I'm getting more out of Max, and I'm okay, getting more out of my second guy in than my first guy because my first guy runs into runs into anything. Now I have a short guy behind him, and I have more length in Max, and Max has an opportunity to get in the flow of the game.

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Speaker 3: I think you got to ask yourself who would handle relieving better, because it's a whole different cat for guys like Max and Bieber and Bassett who have always been starters for the most part. Bassett's had some experience with it now, but Max, and you know, Max, pitching's pitching to Max. Whether you tell you tell me what in and I'm pitching. Let's go. But there's a tough conversation if you want to go tell Max that somebody else is starting. Good luck good.

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Speaker 1: And John Schneider doesn't want that smoke. He's already talked about it. That's why I said what I said. I said, Ohtani to Glass. Now, I said, sureser to Bieber, and then we talk about Bassett and of course my favorite. I was going to save this for the end, but every day Louis Ireland will figure out a way to get in the game and set the record for usage in a postseason. I think he just tied it at fourteen, and fifteen would set the record. What about lineup changes, though, Buck, what do you think of the way that the Dodgers have tried to mix and match? So does Mookie stain the four slot? Does Miguel Rojas get another start? And then after that, let me know what you saw from George Springer, who I'm assuming is good to go.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he had some big knocks for them.

00:28:45
Speaker 3: Well, he had one he hit well. The other one I thought was a beautiful thing. That tells you all you need to know about Springer. Just put the ball in play, get the barrel to it, and go, wow, look what happened. I hit it down to first baseline. I love that. That's one of my favorite bats of the whole night. You know, I don't think you're going to see much change with the Dodgers with I just want to say again that starting Rojas tonight. I know that wasn't in the analytical sheet that you get, you know, and I just I think that the really interesting thing tomorrow is to see whether he starts again tomorrow. I think you will. What do you think, Eric?

00:29:24
Speaker 4: Yes, I don't think they change a thing, but you can't. You can't have this team bouncing in the clubhouse there. They're gonna get to the field tomorrow at like eleven o'clock. If they show up in the lineup says great job last night. Guys, We're gonna go back to what we had because Tommy Edmonds ankle feels better at second base. Sorry, Tommy, we're gonna need to get you your ankle. The same thing that Freddie Freeman had last year for the playoffs, like we need to we need you back out there, and Miggy Rowe, I appreciate you well. I'm gonna ho another trophy.

00:30:01
Speaker 3: I'd say an interesting thing to watch for tomorrow is Springer, because I won't I would be surprised if he's not real sore tomorrow when you've had some time off and he's been taking some dry swings and some DP and a little bit of hitting there. But there's nothing like the level you game speed. I'd be surprised if he's not sore tomorrow. Do I expect him to play, Yes? But do I expect him to be uncomfortable? Yeah? I do.

00:30:29
Speaker 1: A couple of notes from Dave Roberts here at the finish line, he said rolling with the same lineup, not announcing the starter yet because he wants to see where Showhy is more comfortable.

00:30:40
Speaker 2: My only question on that one is how can he pitch in the middle of the game here.

00:30:46
Speaker 4: Rast, I just don't want to give it up. They just don't want to give it. They don't want any I'm not letting the other team know the night before they go to bed because me, I'm taking my computer and I'm watching. I know, I know this guy, but I'm watching every video. I'm watching every tendency because I'm not gonna be a fall asleep. So if I I mean, if you're the if you're the Blue Jays, to me, I'm selling all out to the fact that show Hey's starting. I don't see how they circumvent the rule. The only question I would have, and this would be a ninety nine point nine percent sure of what I just said. The only question I have is I questioned that ball by Will Smith when Show Hay was on First Show Hay's speed is elite. I'm wondering if his legs are not completely back because he did not score on that ball down the left field line, and I thought that was a sure to nothing game at that point because that and they never showed him they because Show Hey walks on water for the telecast, But to me, that ball rattled around in left field, not for me to score from First Show Hey's walking in there and he did not. And I'm wondering if his leg aren't recuperating because think about what he did. He took a cross country flight, he pitched, he was on base in the eighteen inning game nine times, and then they took another cross country flight. The only reason you don't recover is because inflammation is stuck somewhere where you don't want it. I'm not saying it's his arm. I'm saying when you don't run at your top speed like Show Hey, can I just I wonder, I really wonder.

00:32:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why. Just that's another reason why they're not completely committing. Let me tell you, guys, another MVP this time of the year. That's behind the scenes. I want you to think through the Dodgers came to the ballpark tonight, you know, not thinking about it, but realizing their season could be over. Okay, let's talk the traveling secretary. First of all, the hotel. You've got to figure out a way that hey, you know, you basically say we're staying here tonight, win loser draw. That was last night, so they're going back to the hotel and if they had lost, they would leave the next day. Now you got to make sure that hotel is kept for tonight. And if I was them, I would spend the night there, probably tomorrow night, because by the time you get done with that game, when loser draw and you got families with you, the ability to be able to think on your feet and maneuver quickly. For I mean, you've got probably one hundred people traveling with them right now, maybe on two different planes. And the ability to keep that and maneuver around is when traveling secretaries really earn their money. And that's what I'm thinking about this time of night, is you're sitting there and there Dave Roberts not only is making a decisions about pictures, but they're all making decisions about the movement of the team. But that don't worry about that.

00:33:47
Speaker 4: It takes a village. The players have no idea what they have to worry about. And Buck, this is not Garrett Cole putting Raphael Devers on first. This is how many planes the Dodgers have for the World Series. They have? Really four?

00:34:01
Speaker 3: Buck, come more for real, And we're worried about ten thousand dollars for a padded.

00:34:07
Speaker 4: Fence that doesn't let balls get wedged underneath it. No, that's not that's This is how the Dodgers roll. And they're not traveling secretaries anymore, Buck, they're directors of travel. But I gotta ask you, Buck, since you asked me all the questions, I have to ask you this question. Elimination game quick hook compared to lane where you have a pitcher pitching, compared to what your eyes are seeing all the above.

00:34:40
Speaker 3: You know, the quick cook is fine, but you're hooking him for who I'm gonna tell you. You know, there's a lot of managers would have stayed with the closer there. But Dave Roberts said, Okay, you know I've got to sometimes you got to change a little. You know what in the gideo, you just got to throw something different out there. And when they got to pop up there to get the first out, you know, we were all you and I were we were all talking here getting ready for the post game, and went, oh, that's when the first thought about the pad out there came up. But you know, one pitch you can change the karma of a game. So the quick hook is fine. Oh well, you know we're not going to wait along around very long. You know, it's pretty easy to tell if a guy's got it sometimes there, if there's a fight at the backrack to get in that bad end, you know he's not. You don't really have to have some lane there. I think the lane stuff you present your options and saying, okay, we can quick hook this guy, but do we have the people to cover the innings. But you know, you've got so many guys pitching tomorrow that have had great outings, and you just you've got to try to figure out is this that night where they're not having that outing? And that's where a feel comes into it, and that's where the human heartbeat comes into play, and that's why both these man as are managing in game seven.

00:36:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is gonna be nuts. I'm so pumped Toronto. You deserve this. Blue Jays fans had not seen World Series baseball since nineteen ninety three.

00:36:12
Speaker 2: Now you get it all.

00:36:13
Speaker 1: You got a Game seven in Toronto for a chance to win a title. The entertainment factors through the roof and on the Dodgers side, fans are trying to see back to back champs for the first time in about a quarter century. The biggest weakness for the Dodgers. I mean, you could make the case between the offense lately. Okay, well you can win a three to one game again, and the relievers. It doesn't matter that much. You got good starters. Game seven, it gets nuts. It's called chaos.

00:36:41
Speaker 2: For a reason. So this was good stuff. Guys.

00:36:44
Speaker 3: I got a final question. Yeah, you get a ten to thirty ring of your doorbell for a trick or treaters? Do you answer or not? In Dallas, Texas?

00:36:54
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, do you have full sized candy bars?

00:36:56
Speaker 3: Buck? Oh, we're down to the apple slices now.

00:37:00
Speaker 4: Then you don't answer it, because that man that that young man or woman is going to they're gonna put toilet paper in your at ten thirty. The kids who are gonna eat the apple slices. No, no, they're not out anymore. We need full sized candy bars or the lights have to be out bucked.

00:37:16
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we got something else worked in a little munch, says Tom of Night, Exactly.

00:37:23
Speaker 1: I think there are other factors in play when trigger treaters are going past the deadline, and I think the deadline is.

00:37:30
Speaker 2: I mean, you guys, tell me.

00:37:31
Speaker 1: I'm not a suburbia guy, but probably what eight nine o'clock, I got.

00:37:38
Speaker 3: A question for you. I'll give me one unsund hero to more somebody that steps out and it's a Game seven hero that just blindsides you. Who's your plate?

00:37:46
Speaker 1: That depends who you think is gonna win, right, because that's the unsung hero is not going to be the guy on the losing team.

00:37:52
Speaker 3: That's true. That's true.

00:37:53
Speaker 2: So maybe with that, but then you need to have an answer. SI you can swing it around or okay.

00:38:00
Speaker 4: And I'll give you and I'll give you my one from each.

00:38:02
Speaker 2: Team, Okay, Matthew first, Oh me first?

00:38:08
Speaker 4: Yeah, Miguel Rojas, they've already set, They've already set, They've already set the stage for me. The Dodgers have a guy in there, who can bunt, who can stay inside one hundred mile an hour fastball from Louis Varland and move the runner. He's not gonna win MVP. He's not like, it's not gonna happen to me. The guy that could win an MVP Alejandro Kirk. And I'm not saying he's coming out nowhere, but if you look at what he's done recently, he is. He is. He looks a little bit tired here at the end of this series, and he hasn't gotten the big hits. To me, if the Blue Jays win, Kirk puts the ball out of the ballpark.

00:38:50
Speaker 3: So you got my guy with Rojas. You can bunt with him, you can squeeze with him, you can hit and run. He's gonna play stellar defense. Uh So I'm going along with you with Rojas. But Toronto is a tough call, you know. I just uh, I'm anxious to see how Kirk's wrist is after the hit by pitch.

00:39:11
Speaker 4: Nothing nothing hurts Buck, not even that.

00:39:16
Speaker 3: Nothing hurt it's broken. If it's broken is But he I love Kirk. I just love watching him play. I talked to the guy that signed him. They had gone in there to look at somebody else, and they kept seeing this guy and his back to ball skills and everything. And you know that when I first saw the guy, the big lingus, I remember talking in advanced meeting. I said, guys, I don't know about him catching whatever, but I guarantee you this guy can hit. I guarantee you anybody that looks like he looks can hit. And he could. You know, it's just when you see him. I love watching him play, and he can, he can throw, and the pitchers believe in him. But you took my two, guys, so we're in agreement.

00:39:58
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll give you two on the way out. I mean, Clement has been a pleasure to watch. I know he didn't get it done. Was he was part of the PopOut right, We had one of the popouts there at the end. But come on, I mean, the dude's hitting four hundred plus in the postseason. He's been incredible. This has been a coming out party for him. He's been good. He hasn't been talked about a lot the last couple of years, and he has taken his game to another level. He's one of those guys where you're looking towards the bottom of the line of I mean, fuck, you look at that at the eight hole and you're like, damn, this makes sense. While we're playing this team right now, this makes sense. This guy is a pest. This guy hits towards the top of most lineups, and we're playing the Blue Jays and we have to game plan against Clement and what he's done to me that stands out, And that's a guy that just consistently has been a pest. On the other side, I'll give you you here, I'll get you a comment in there, and then I'll give you a guy on the.

00:40:48
Speaker 2: Other side that's a good call, yeah, okay.

00:40:52
Speaker 1: And then on the other side, I'll take one who's either going to go like, oh for four or two for four with a huge stinger. Keik Hernandez. He's just been there and he's a different player in the playoffs for years. So if the Dodgers end up winning three to two and there was a two run homer, I would not be surprised if it was Key k a Hernandez. I would say Max Munsey in that kind of case too, but Max is a little bit more, you know, of a bigger name regular season Why Key Hernandez is the definition of postseason performer.

00:41:19
Speaker 2: He's the guy who gets up in those big moments.

00:41:22
Speaker 1: It's just a different, different game for him when you get to October, and he's got so much experience at those times.

00:41:28
Speaker 2: So I'll say those two stand out.

00:41:30
Speaker 3: Do you remember you remember the play where Monthly lost the ball on the lights tonight the bouncer supposedly, you know, that's another thing official scores for years, always scored that in era. At least they know now. But there's another thing. We talk about fences and openings at the bottom, and there's some way we could figure out a way where balls don't go in the lights, somehow figure out a way that it doesn't play into the game. Okay, I'm done.

00:41:56
Speaker 2: I kind of like it. I mean from a fan perspective, like you got to the light we have.

00:42:02
Speaker 3: I can get the sun, the sun at it's always gonna be there. But the lights, that's something we can control where the ball doesn't get in the lights. I used to think that we should always Okay, I'm gonna give one up on myself. I was thinking in the playoffs one year, if we had gave out shirts to everybody behind home plate and the UH and they had the they turned them over to black shirts when we were in the field, and they turn them over to white shirts when they were in the field. You think that would be legal?

00:42:28
Speaker 4: I think I think Majingue Baseball would not do anything about it because they used to give out Bob They used to give out white towels. People would come in there and they'd be, you know, they they'd be waving the white towels, and the hitters are like, I mean, the feelers are like, I remember Shane Victorino, He's.

00:42:44
Speaker 3: Like, oh my god, I can't see.

00:42:46
Speaker 4: He's like what He's like, put all of them down. He's like, every two strikes, he's like, you have to strike him out because I'm seeing like one thousand, fifteen thousand white things behind home plate. Now they now they made the rule in the last CBA. They made it sure it had to be your team colors. It couldn't be white or any light colors.

00:43:05
Speaker 3: Hey, there's a reason why they quit giving bats away, you know, because I'm going to get killed up there. You remember they used to have bat Day. Finally they figured out, you know, this, this ain't a real smart idea.

00:43:18
Speaker 2: No, it's not a good idea.

00:43:19
Speaker 1: Hey, wait till you see the renderings for the new Vegas ballpark where it's full of white. That's going to be fun. When someone calls them and says, hey, that's that's not going to work. We'll save it for another day. We'll save it for another day.

00:43:30
Speaker 3: It's like the silver seats in the stands. Who makes these decisions to have this these silver seats in spring training where nobody can see. We would there are places where we wouldn't take guys to the ballpark, to visiting ballparks because we knew somebody get killed. What's this mean?

00:43:46
Speaker 4: Challenge?

00:43:47
Speaker 1: We just we just have to challenge it. Challenge is not watching enough baseball. Hey, how about how good are they? How good are the home plate on parts? But how many pitches tonight? Would you have asked them, uh Scott to check tonight?

00:44:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say probably about five.

00:44:05
Speaker 1: What Kratz said that there were a few pitches down that I felt were down, and then there were a few pitches that were not down that so I think the bottom part portion of the zone had a little bit of a rollercoaster ride to it. But most of the time it's playing both ways, and I'm the biggest proponent of the ABS challenge system. I cannot wait. One quick note too, just so people don't think we got it wrong on that month's he play. Initially it was called a knock and then they switched it.

00:44:32
Speaker 3: They switched it to an error.

00:44:34
Speaker 2: Really, yeah, they switched it.

00:44:38
Speaker 3: Official score should go up to him and say, okay, tell me yes or no? Is it in the lights or did you just miss it? That's what I would do.

00:44:44
Speaker 1: Because what do you think I was going to say, Buck? These are gamers. What do you think Max is going to say?

00:44:49
Speaker 3: Max is going to tell you the truth? He will? He will because it doesn't really.

00:44:53
Speaker 1: It will, but many won't, I guess, but but I'm with you. It's fun. Hey, this was great. Thank you for joining us. Hope you enjoyed it. That was a fun game to break down Game seven. We'll do this again on FT on the YouTube channel. Trevor Maywell join us for it, so we will see everyone after Game seven of the World Series winner Take All. This is it the end of the season for sure, and it will end in Canada with the Dodgers taking on the Blue Jays, and you can check it out on Fox One. They live for live. Try seven days for freak R Coote on the screen right now. Good night to anyone watching us live. If you're watching us in the morning, Happy Game seven day