Blade Runner (1982) vs. The Thing (1982) vs. E.T. (1982): Part 2

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, everybody, welcome back to the Shirly You Can't Be
<v Speaker 2>Serious podcast. This is part two.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we're gonna talk about casting today. Super excited to
<v Speaker 3>get into that with you. You always have the best
<v Speaker 3>information on casting.
<v Speaker 2>Where else are you going to get that little nugget
<v Speaker 2>of information that said if the dad from Flipper hadn't
<v Speaker 2>had a motorcycle accident, we would not have got Blade Runner.
<v Speaker 2>You are not getting that anywhere else. I promise you that. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>that was that was a rabbit also a deep dive. Man,
<v Speaker 2>it was quite a rabbit hole. Well done. Yep, let's
<v Speaker 2>get into part two et versus the Thing versus Blade Runner. Okay, Jason,
<v Speaker 2>we have an executive producer for this episode. Yeah, his
<v Speaker 2>name's Chris Pick.
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<v Speaker 2>We are deeply grateful. You the man. Okay, so listen
<v Speaker 2>to this. So et made seven hundred and ninety two
<v Speaker 2>million dollars in nineteen eighty two. In nineteen eighty two. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>at the time, it was the most money ever made
<v Speaker 2>by any one movie of all time. Yeah, okay, so
<v Speaker 2>let's put that in perspective for just a second.
<v Speaker 4>Okay.
<v Speaker 2>So Blade Runner made yeah, forty million, okay, Okay, not
<v Speaker 2>profit total total, right right? The Thing made eighteen seventeen
<v Speaker 2>nineteen million, nineteen million. Budget was fifteen okay, So that
<v Speaker 2>means they made about four million bucks. And if we're
<v Speaker 2>talking about a giant movie like that, that's not enough. No, basically,
<v Speaker 2>you've got to make three times your budget to be
<v Speaker 2>considered a hit. Yeah, okay, Now follow me on this, Okay.
<v Speaker 2>This is Summer of eighty two. Conan the Barbarian, Annie,
<v Speaker 2>Rocky three, Poulter, Geist, Star Trek two, Grease two, Blade Runner,
<v Speaker 2>The Thing, The Best Full of Whorehouse in Texas, Zapped,
<v Speaker 2>and An Officer and a Gentleman. Those movies were all
<v Speaker 2>released the summer of eighty two. Their combined total at
<v Speaker 2>the box office is seven hundred and sixty two million dollars.
<v Speaker 2>That's still thirty million dollars less than e Team made
<v Speaker 2>by itself. Wow. So et was top of the box
<v Speaker 2>office for twelve weeks. Yes, you just mentioned a ton
<v Speaker 2>of incredible movies. Yes, but you posed the question to
<v Speaker 2>me which of those movies knocked ET out of the
<v Speaker 2>top spot? And I was like Rocky three, Nope. No,
<v Speaker 2>I was like Tron Nope, Like best Little Whohouse in Texts? Nope?
<v Speaker 2>What was it, Jason? What movie of those that you
<v Speaker 2>just listed knocked E t out of the top You
<v Speaker 2>may have caught it because it was the one that
<v Speaker 2>really doesn't belong. It's Zapped, starring Scott Bayo, the stupid
<v Speaker 2>teen comedy that he could lift up girls skirts with
<v Speaker 2>like telekinesis. It's a boomfast. That's the movie that Heather Thomas.
<v Speaker 2>Let's all take a moment and just appreciate Heather Thomas.
<v Speaker 2>That's the movie that knocked ET have the number one spot.
<v Speaker 2>Now ET came back and regained it and bounced around
<v Speaker 2>number one. For the risk. It was in theaters for
<v Speaker 2>almost a year. Yeah, I mean I saw it probably
<v Speaker 2>five times in the theater. Tak my mom, Dad took.
<v Speaker 2>I mean I was there every time you mentioned ET
<v Speaker 2>on our very first episode when we were talking about
<v Speaker 2>Michael Jackson's Thrower. ET is one of the great cinematic
<v Speaker 2>experiences I've ever had in my life. Okay, and it's
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you got Star Wars, you got Raiders. I
<v Speaker 2>told you when my mom covered my eyes when the
<v Speaker 2>Propellers et and diehard, I mean, that's it. Those are
<v Speaker 2>my top I could not believe what I was seeing,
<v Speaker 2>all right, and I wasn't alone because it made eight
<v Speaker 2>hundred million dollars. Yeah, okay, we ready, tadcasting. Sure, stop casting.
<v Speaker 2>All right, let's flip back to the thing. In tad casting.
<v Speaker 5>You're gonna have to sleep sometime, a real.
<v Speaker 2>Light sleeper child. Okay. So the thing is an ensemble movie,
<v Speaker 2>all guys, no females except a little tiny cameo that
<v Speaker 2>you may not notice.
<v Speaker 4>Now.
<v Speaker 3>Of course, John Carpenter had made several movies. One of
<v Speaker 3>his kind of go to actresses was a lady named
<v Speaker 3>Adrian Barbou. Yes, we might have mentioned her inconsistent zipper
<v Speaker 3>height when we did our Cannonball Run episode. She was
<v Speaker 3>a well endowed young actress that ultimately ended up being
<v Speaker 3>his wife, and as it turns out, she's the one
<v Speaker 3>female part in this movie, as the voice of the
<v Speaker 3>chess computer that McCready is playing chess against that he
<v Speaker 3>ultimately I believe drowns with some J and B whiskey
<v Speaker 3>or something.
<v Speaker 2>Check maan, check mak.
<v Speaker 4>The bitch.
<v Speaker 2>That's exactly right, Adrian Barbou, the voice of the computer.
<v Speaker 2>Go back to our Cannonball Run episode where she dazzles
<v Speaker 2>Reynolds with her cleavage and her zippers.
<v Speaker 4>Oh, I'll take care of this one.
<v Speaker 5>Well, hello, hot pants. I don't suppose you have a
<v Speaker 5>driver's license tuck down in there somewhere, do you?
<v Speaker 2>Yes? Okay, So Kurt Russell was the last guy hired,
<v Speaker 2>which I find fascinating. Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>I mean it's interesting because I told you that we
<v Speaker 3>have a Those guys fell in love on the set
<v Speaker 3>of Elvis, right, uh huh. They of course went on
<v Speaker 3>to make Escape from New York, which is a fantastic
<v Speaker 3>movie and was kind of a reason that he got
<v Speaker 3>greenlit to do some of the other movies that he did,
<v Speaker 3>including The Thing by the Way, Escape from New York
<v Speaker 3>fantastic love it.
<v Speaker 2>Did you know that?
<v Speaker 3>Like the it's a total satire of all the old
<v Speaker 3>Clint Eastwood movies like The Dirty Airy and The Man
<v Speaker 3>with No Name.
<v Speaker 2>I did not know that until you pointed that out.
<v Speaker 3>But I mean it's spot on you if you had
<v Speaker 3>those guys be a little bit uglier and a little
<v Speaker 3>bit quieter, that is snake Pliskin.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, yeah. You take the guy who was the
<v Speaker 2>Disney hero, give him an.
<v Speaker 3>Eyepatch and a murderous attitude, and that is that's how
<v Speaker 3>you burn that image to the ground.
<v Speaker 2>Well, speaking of the man with no name, Clint Eastwood
<v Speaker 2>was one of the guys considered for the part of McCready.
<v Speaker 2>That would have been funny in nineteen eighty two, right right,
<v Speaker 2>Who else have you got? Okay? Kevin Klein was one
<v Speaker 2>of the guys. He was kind of an unknown at
<v Speaker 2>the time. Yeah, but Carboner really liked him, Okay, Christopher Walking,
<v Speaker 2>Jeff Bridges, ah, Now, they would work together on Star Man,
<v Speaker 2>which you mentioned, yep. Nick Nolty okay, Sam Shephard Okay,
<v Speaker 2>Peter Coyote, who is of course an et he is
<v Speaker 2>Tom Barranger, Brian Denahey, okay, is that for me? That's
<v Speaker 2>big Tom? No, son, that's for me. Bill Ancaster was
<v Speaker 2>the screenwriter, the person he had in his mind when
<v Speaker 2>he was writing the part of McCready. Harrison Ford, there
<v Speaker 2>you go, husband of Melissa Matheson, Star of Blader, inner
<v Speaker 2>Now then flipped the Child's real quick. Okay, Child's is
<v Speaker 2>the one of the last guys left. The Bees and
<v Speaker 2>the Franks go back to our Something about Marry episode.
<v Speaker 2>He is Mary's dad, Mary's dad. Yeah. Ernie Hudson had
<v Speaker 2>this part, wow, until Keith David read for it. Ernie
<v Speaker 2>Hudson was, of course the fourth Ghostbuster. Yeah right, if
<v Speaker 2>there's a steady paycheck in it.
<v Speaker 4>I'll believe anything you say.
<v Speaker 2>I have seen that makes you turn white. Right. Bernie
<v Speaker 2>Casey and Carl Weathers were considered for this. Okay, Paula Creed,
<v Speaker 2>that'd been cool, right, Yeah. Blair Now, Blair is the
<v Speaker 2>part played by Wilford Brimley. Good morning, I'm Wilford Brimley,
<v Speaker 2>and I'd like to talk to you for a few
<v Speaker 2>minutes about diabetes.
<v Speaker 3>Wilford Brimley. Here's an interesting tidbit about Wilford Brimley. Yes,
<v Speaker 3>he was bodyguard for Howard Hughes before he became an actor.
<v Speaker 3>Howard Hughes, Howard Hugh the aviator, Howard Hughes, the movie producer,
<v Speaker 3>Howard Hughes the inventor, Yes, the crazy Howard Hughes. Wilfrid
<v Speaker 3>Brimley was a bodyguard for him.
<v Speaker 2>That's amazing. Yeah. Donald Pleasants was originally supposed to be Blair. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>I love Wilfrid Bridley in this movie. He's so good.
<v Speaker 2>And when he's out, they put him out in the shack,
<v Speaker 2>you know, and he's like, I feel better now, like
<v Speaker 2>to come inside, and there's that news that's hanging right
<v Speaker 2>next to explain it. I literally wrote.
<v Speaker 3>It down as I'm watching the movie. I'm like, what's
<v Speaker 3>with the noose right here? Like they are not saying
<v Speaker 3>a word about the noose?
<v Speaker 2>I feel love better now? Okay, all right, gosh crazy,
<v Speaker 2>right right? Jay Leno read for a part in this movie. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>so did Gary Shanley. Okay.
<v Speaker 4>T K.
<v Speaker 2>Carter was actually a stand up comic and he was hired,
<v Speaker 2>so maybe it was one of those parts. Okay. Richard
<v Speaker 2>Manser plays Clark in the Thing. Clark is the guy
<v Speaker 2>who handles the dogs. Yeah, he's the dad in License
<v Speaker 2>to Drive, Right. He turned down a part in et.
<v Speaker 2>He was also the dad in and Sino Man. By
<v Speaker 2>the way. Oh yeah, man, he's great as the dad.
<v Speaker 1>I like him.
<v Speaker 2>Was he the guy crap?
<v Speaker 3>Was he the guy who interviewed Tom Cruise in Risky
<v Speaker 3>business Man. Oh dude, if I'm right about that, howe
<v Speaker 3>me a coke or something?
<v Speaker 2>Okay, hold on and yes he was.
<v Speaker 5>Wow, Now it's my understanding, Joelt, you would like to
<v Speaker 5>attend Princeton.
<v Speaker 2>He was Rutherford. That's fantastic, great job.
<v Speaker 3>He read the script and they didn't know which part
<v Speaker 3>they were going to cast him in. They wanted him,
<v Speaker 3>they didn't, and he was like, I asked for Clark
<v Speaker 3>because the idea of a guy who had more love
<v Speaker 3>for the dogs than he did for the humans was
<v Speaker 3>fascinating to me.
<v Speaker 2>Interestingly, Richard Manser and Keith David decided through rehearsals. Uh
<v Speaker 2>huh that because they were the two biggest guys there. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>they weren't going to like each other. This is Keith
<v Speaker 2>David's first film role, right, fascinating love it Okay. The
<v Speaker 2>part of Gary Jerry Orbach was considered for the part
<v Speaker 2>of Gary b Oh guest Baby's Dad, Baby's Dad from
<v Speaker 2>Dirty Dancing. And then finally, I mean, we could go
<v Speaker 2>through all these guys, but I'm gonna throw a couple
<v Speaker 2>out when you're done. Fuchs. The guy who plays Fuchs
<v Speaker 2>is Gary from Gary's Old Town tavern from cheers. Oh
<v Speaker 2>my gosh, that is a deep cut, my friend. Well,
<v Speaker 2>thank you, well done, thank you. That is great.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so I'll throw a couple out there for you.
<v Speaker 3>You got Richard Dysart as the physician, right, he's the
<v Speaker 3>doctor that goes to the old Norwegian.
<v Speaker 2>He's the guy who gets his hand eaten off when
<v Speaker 2>he's yes, yeah, he gets his arms bit off, yes,
<v Speaker 2>bitten off. Excuse me.
<v Speaker 3>I recognized him from La Law, like I watched La
<v Speaker 3>Law and he was like the main prime partner on
<v Speaker 3>La LAWK.
<v Speaker 2>Well weird in me?
<v Speaker 3>I was, he has a nose ring in this thing.
<v Speaker 3>I don't understand why the guy who is the MD
<v Speaker 3>is the one with the nose ring, all right? And
<v Speaker 3>then you also as windows, and I remember you telling
<v Speaker 3>me a story about windows and why he's windows.
<v Speaker 2>But as windows you have Thomas g Waits, who had
<v Speaker 2>been in the Warriors before this. He was classmates Juilliard
<v Speaker 2>with Robin Williams and Christopher Ree. And how about that,
<v Speaker 2>Keith David, So tell me why windows is called windows.
<v Speaker 2>I love it when you told me a story and
<v Speaker 2>then then you forget and I get to tell this story, like,
<v Speaker 2>it's my story. It's wonderful.
<v Speaker 3>So he showed up to the set wearing sunglasses and
<v Speaker 3>he was like, from now on, I want you.
<v Speaker 2>To call me Windows. That's how he got his name,
<v Speaker 2>Like he's I'm gonna wear sunglasses the whole time, so
<v Speaker 2>just call me Windows. Yeah, And that's how Windows became
<v Speaker 2>a character. Oh okay, I forgot to tell you this story.
<v Speaker 2>He also gets his head eating off. I did hear
<v Speaker 2>all these guys talking about how it is like summer camp, right,
<v Speaker 2>So you get these twelve actors, they all fly him
<v Speaker 2>out to the middle of nowhere Canada, Canada, Stuart British, Columbia, yep, okay,
<v Speaker 2>and they've got to you know, they stay at the
<v Speaker 2>hotel or whatever, and they've got to take this special
<v Speaker 2>road and every time they go up there, it's like
<v Speaker 2>they're taking their life in their own hands. But they
<v Speaker 2>all had a ball, you know. I mean, you're you've
<v Speaker 2>got flamethrowers and you're in Canada and you're all there
<v Speaker 2>by yourself and you're having a great time. I thought
<v Speaker 2>that was interesting. But the one actor I wanted to
<v Speaker 2>point out that may have had the best performance. According
<v Speaker 2>to John Carpenter. Now, okay, the dog. Oh yeah, the dog,
<v Speaker 2>Jed Jed jed the dog actor, who is the thing?
<v Speaker 2>He's the first thing we know it's the thing because
<v Speaker 2>it's the Norwegian dog that has come into the camp
<v Speaker 2>and he has to creep down the hallway, stop, pause,
<v Speaker 2>look around, not look at the camera, and then slowly go.
<v Speaker 2>He's like John Carpenter was going on and on about
<v Speaker 2>the dog.
<v Speaker 3>Well he was half wolf. This dog was half wolf, yes,
<v Speaker 3>And one of the things that when you get a
<v Speaker 3>half wolf mix is they don't bark like normal dogs bark,
<v Speaker 3>and when something is going wrong, they stare it down.
<v Speaker 3>And that's exactly what he did in all of his
<v Speaker 3>shots that it needed it. But he wasn't real comfortable
<v Speaker 3>around human beings. Like you can see him when he
<v Speaker 3>has to go under the table and people are weirded
<v Speaker 3>out by the dog. He's uncomfortable there too. But all
<v Speaker 3>they had to do whenever he had to stare at
<v Speaker 3>the wall in that weird way, was just a little
<v Speaker 3>bit of a signal to show that something was wrong,
<v Speaker 3>and he would stare it down.
<v Speaker 2>It's fascinating, by the way. Kurt Russell told a story
<v Speaker 2>about when they pulled into. They shot parts of it
<v Speaker 2>in Canada, parts in Juno, Alaska, and parts in LA.
<v Speaker 2>They shot it actually on refrigerated sets, which is pretty cool.
<v Speaker 2>Kurt Russell says, one hundred and five degrees outside, and
<v Speaker 2>so anytime they went to lunch, they had to like
<v Speaker 2>take off all their ski gear, right, and then you know,
<v Speaker 2>walking one hundred and five degree heat to come back
<v Speaker 2>in and put all their coods on. Yeah. The guy
<v Speaker 2>who played Clark, Richard Master, said, eventually they just said
<v Speaker 2>heck with it, and they would just wear their parkas out.
<v Speaker 2>It was like, I'll be hot for like two minutes, says,
<v Speaker 2>we're walking through, and then we'll walk in an air
<v Speaker 2>conditioned room and we'll be fine again. He goes.
<v Speaker 3>People were looking at it's weird when we were wearing
<v Speaker 3>our parkas. Then I came in with a bullet hole
<v Speaker 3>in my head and people like literally moved away from
<v Speaker 3>my table.
<v Speaker 2>Kurt Russell said. When they pulled up to the studio
<v Speaker 2>to begin filming the thing, there's a giant sign that
<v Speaker 2>said welcome Dolly Parton and Burt Reynolds. The big thing
<v Speaker 2>at that moment was best little whorehouse in Texas. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>done with casting on the thing. Let's move on to
<v Speaker 2>Blade Run Replicans.
<v Speaker 5>They're like any other machine.
<v Speaker 2>They're either a benefit or a hazard. They're a benefit.
<v Speaker 2>That's not my problem, So not a big casting Blade Runner.
<v Speaker 2>Listen to who they wanted for DECKERD. We already talked
<v Speaker 2>about how this is pre Raiders of the Lost Ark.
<v Speaker 5>They don't advertise for killers in a newspaper. That was
<v Speaker 5>my profession law x cop ex blade Runner ex killer.
<v Speaker 2>At that point, he had been in I think Force
<v Speaker 2>ten from navarone and Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back,
<v Speaker 2>and that's pretty much it. American graffiti, American graffiti. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>he had a big part in American graffiti. Yeah, okay.
<v Speaker 2>They wanted Dustin Hoffman as Deckerd wow at the time,
<v Speaker 2>like he was their number one choice, and Dustin Hoffman
<v Speaker 2>was like, you shouldn't want a little more macho guy
<v Speaker 2>for this room, right, and so he went on to
<v Speaker 2>play titson. That's right he did, right. Yeah, So think
<v Speaker 2>in terms of Blade Runner being like a film noir, right.
<v Speaker 3>Oh, absolutely, Philip Marlow, absolutely, Chandler, I mean very macho,
<v Speaker 3>very alcohol swilling, morally questionable guy.
<v Speaker 2>So listen to the list of actors that were considered. Okay, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>Tommy Lee Jones, Gene Hackman, Sean Connery, Jack Nicholson, Paul Newman,
<v Speaker 2>I mean Chinatown of course, Jack Nicholson for sure. Yeah, okay, right,
<v Speaker 2>I mean these are yeah, little edgy, tough guys, right,
<v Speaker 2>a little older, but yes, Albacino, Burt Reynolds, Paul Newman
<v Speaker 2>did the verdict that year. Yes, okay, go aheadkay, Christopher Walking,
<v Speaker 2>Martin Sheen. Yeah. Arnold Schwarzenegger. What Arnold freaking Schwarzenegger.
<v Speaker 3>So, Arnold Schwarzenegger was considered for Deckert in The Blade Runner, yep,
<v Speaker 3>but ultimately would be in another Philip K.
<v Speaker 2>Dick movie, Total Recall in ninety seven, eight years later.
<v Speaker 2>How about that? Yeah, so they had some trouble with
<v Speaker 2>casting Hampton Fincher envision Robert Mitcham as deckerd Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>I think Robert Mitchen had played some of those Marlow
<v Speaker 3>type of guys in the past.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yep, all right, let's talk about Roy Batty for
<v Speaker 2>a second. I've seen the people wouldn't believe Roy Batty
<v Speaker 2>is the Batty, if you will, the leader of the replicants, right,
<v Speaker 2>He's ruger Hower. Rudger Hower. Okay, so this was the
<v Speaker 2>one role that they had no problem with. Ridley Scott
<v Speaker 2>had seen rugger Hower in a movie called Turkish Delight. Okay, okay,
<v Speaker 2>is it about dessert? No, it's not about dessert. I
<v Speaker 2>told you so. I watched. I got on YouTube and
<v Speaker 2>I googled the Turkish Delight movie trailer and I watched
<v Speaker 2>thirty seconds of it. I was so bored I almost
<v Speaker 2>fell out of my chair. If you get a boring trailer,
<v Speaker 2>you're in a bad spot. Oh my gosh. It was like,
<v Speaker 2>I'm not kidding. It was like watching Lady Chatterley's Lever
<v Speaker 2>or something like that. Okay, a seventies era softcore romantic
<v Speaker 2>cinemax movie. Okay, But really Scott loved him because he
<v Speaker 2>was Arian, right, he was what arian arian arians in
<v Speaker 2>blonde blondes, hair, blue eyed. They even went overboard and
<v Speaker 2>they proximated him for the part because of that, not
<v Speaker 2>because let's be clear here, I'm gonna say that again,
<v Speaker 2>man in the high cast old It's hilarious. He loved
<v Speaker 2>him because he was Arian. Okay, this is awkward. No,
<v Speaker 2>he loved him for the part because he was airan
<v Speaker 2>I gotcha. I got now.
<v Speaker 3>From what I understand, rugger Howard showed up with his
<v Speaker 3>hair dyed that bright blonde like it was it was
<v Speaker 3>staying bleached. Yeah, I mean it was the police blonde.
<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, that's right.
<v Speaker 3>And then like also in like this fur coat and
<v Speaker 3>kind of looking punk rockerish, and Ridley Scott was like,
<v Speaker 3>oh my dear lord, what have I done? Yeah, but
<v Speaker 3>it was all just as it was just a messing.
<v Speaker 3>It was just a mess with him.
<v Speaker 2>Look, we'll get into this later, rugger Hower and his
<v Speaker 2>his performance, and then Harrison Ford manoemno, yeah, so good.
<v Speaker 2>So let's talk about Rachel really quick. Okay, they hired
<v Speaker 2>Sean Young. You're reading a magazine. You come across the
<v Speaker 2>full page nude photo of a girl.
<v Speaker 1>Is this testing whether I'm a replicant or lesbian?
<v Speaker 2>Mister Deckert? Sean Young, she was very young. Who was
<v Speaker 2>the almost Vicky Vail was? She was almost Vicky Vale.
<v Speaker 2>Almost Vicky Vail fell off ho worse, that's right. She
<v Speaker 2>heard her when she break her wrist or something like that,
<v Speaker 2>she got hurt and she couldn't be Vicky Veil. But
<v Speaker 2>then she stormed Tim Burton's office. Dressed in a catwoman's
<v Speaker 2>suit and wanted him to hire her back, and they
<v Speaker 2>had to throw her out of the studio. Wow. You
<v Speaker 2>ever heard that story of Oh wow? So sean young,
<v Speaker 2>very young, beautiful bird, like I'd say in this movie.
<v Speaker 2>She's just very precise and very Okay you with me
<v Speaker 2>on that. No, I have no idea what you're talking
<v Speaker 2>about it, but I'll go all right, I'm following behind you.
<v Speaker 2>Okay the way all right? Good? So here's who they want.
<v Speaker 2>Here's the other people that they looked at. Okay, Nina
<v Speaker 2>axel Pod, I don't know who that is. Yeah, I
<v Speaker 2>looked at her. I didn't really recognize her. Okay, Okay,
<v Speaker 2>Barbara Hershey, there you go. And Philip K. Dick wanted
<v Speaker 2>Victoria principal. Wow, how about that? Okay? Okay. Also, Grace
<v Speaker 2>Jones was considered for the part of Rachel. Okay, Grace
<v Speaker 2>Jones good a Bond movie instead? No, thanks, not a
<v Speaker 2>fan of that. One of you two killed terrible Okay, Chris,
<v Speaker 2>that's the part that Darryl Hannah plays. Yes, I think
<v Speaker 2>Sebastian therefore I am. They wanted Debbie Harry from Blondie
<v Speaker 2>to play with that for sure. How about that. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>they also looked at Monique fond Devin, who was the
<v Speaker 2>girl that Rugger Howard was in love with in Turkish Delight. Eh,
<v Speaker 2>play Chris Okay, might as well if it were just
<v Speaker 2>bring him back his boyfriend girlfriend. Sure, okay, So the
<v Speaker 2>part of Leon Kowalski wake up trying to die, Brian
<v Speaker 2>Jones is the guy who ends up playing him. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>he's the guy who takes the boy comp test to
<v Speaker 2>the very beginning. Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Man, what a great beginning scene that is. But yes,
<v Speaker 3>his portrayal in this one is a good one. He was,
<v Speaker 3>He was in a ton of stuff in the eighties,
<v Speaker 3>and I think he passed away like a pretty young age.
<v Speaker 3>I think it was only in his early fifties. Maybe
<v Speaker 3>when he passed away.
<v Speaker 2>I think he was in Tingo and Cash. I think
<v Speaker 2>they put a grenade in his mouth with Kurt Russell. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>he was in the Fifth Element as well. Okay. They
<v Speaker 2>had decided to hire this guy named Frank McCrae as
<v Speaker 2>Kowalski until really Scott's secretary told him that Brian James
<v Speaker 2>scared her, frightened her. He's scary, he is scary. He's
<v Speaker 2>intense and he's got the crazy eyes. And he does
<v Speaker 2>have the crazy eyes. And really, Scott's like, that's enough
<v Speaker 2>for me, We're going to hire him. And then Zora
<v Speaker 2>was played by joe Ane Cassidy. She was in Roger
<v Speaker 2>Rabbit Waitress. She's like Eddie's girlfriend, had a rabbit in
<v Speaker 2>your pocket or you just have it to see? That's her,
<v Speaker 2>all right, you got it nice. And then the role
<v Speaker 2>of Gaff went to Edward James Almos. Too bad, you
<v Speaker 2>won't live. But then again, who died from Stand and Deliver?
<v Speaker 2>Standing Deliver? Mimy Vice American Me. He's tough, he's intense.
<v Speaker 2>Great job. I thought this was hilarious. M Emmett Walsh
<v Speaker 2>plays Captain Bryant, another scratcher. He's raised in Arizona and
<v Speaker 2>he's in the Jerk, right, He's in a couple of
<v Speaker 2>the Coen Brothers movies. But yeah, he's great. He's the
<v Speaker 2>guy that shoots at Steve Martin. Steve Bard's like he
<v Speaker 2>hates these cans, right, even r Johnson. That's exactly right.
<v Speaker 2>So here's the funny part. So really Scott said, hey,
<v Speaker 2>for this role, could you smoke and m Mimmett Walsh
<v Speaker 2>didn't smoke, but he's like, well, okay, and really Scott
<v Speaker 2>kept having take after take after taking, kept smoking and
<v Speaker 2>smoking smoking ntil he got sick. Oh no, he got
<v Speaker 2>sick of the cigarettes. And he's made a comment in
<v Speaker 2>the press that really Scott needs to be hung up
<v Speaker 2>by his balls. Oh and the producers reamed him out
<v Speaker 2>for that. He got in trouble for that. Done with
<v Speaker 2>casting on Blade Runner, Okay, now to do casting on
<v Speaker 2>e T. He's a man from out of space and
<v Speaker 2>we're taking him to a space shirt. Well, can just
<v Speaker 2>beam up?
<v Speaker 4>This is reality.
<v Speaker 3>Brin maybe the most fascinating casting even though it's a
<v Speaker 3>small cast.
<v Speaker 2>It's a small cast.
<v Speaker 3>Now, so of course here we go another connection. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>de Wallace was in The Howling, which was the movie
<v Speaker 3>that had Robert Boutin's first big werewolf transformation where he
<v Speaker 3>was the main guy on point.
<v Speaker 2>So I kind of dug rob Botein in in our
<v Speaker 2>Howling episode for making her look like an Ewok at
<v Speaker 2>the end. Remember that. Yeah, I mean that we figured it.
<v Speaker 3>We found out that that was at her behest it was,
<v Speaker 3>which was you know, that was the wrong choice there.
<v Speaker 2>But that's just the tip of the iceberg. Let's go
<v Speaker 2>ahead and keep going right. Okay, So Henry Thomas was
<v Speaker 2>hired as Eliot. You can see his audition on YouTube.
<v Speaker 2>It's heartbreaking. Yeah, you can't take him a.
<v Speaker 4>Way much, but it's not my choice.
<v Speaker 2>The president asked me to come here and to get it.
<v Speaker 2>Don't Carol what the president's I mean, my best friend
<v Speaker 2>and you can't.
<v Speaker 4>Dog you what.
<v Speaker 3>Steven Spielberg had seen him like in commercials and stuff,
<v Speaker 3>but hadn't seen him really speak any lines and wanted
<v Speaker 3>to know if he had some acting ability. He said, right, look,
<v Speaker 3>but does can he act right? And so he had
<v Speaker 3>him come in to do some acting. Yes, and this
<v Speaker 3>is the cue that he gave him. He was like, Okay,
<v Speaker 3>they've come to take away your best friend. There's a
<v Speaker 3>man at the door, and he is there to take
<v Speaker 3>away your best friend. And it's your job to stop
<v Speaker 3>this big, grown up law enforcement guy from taking your
<v Speaker 3>best friend. Yeah, when you watch this, Steven Spielberg says that.
<v Speaker 3>He says, Okay, are you ready. Henry Thomas says, yes,
<v Speaker 3>immediately knock at the door. We're here to get whatever
<v Speaker 3>whoever it is, right, and Henry Thomas he starts breaking
<v Speaker 3>down and He's like, you can't take it not and
<v Speaker 3>you see the tears start to flow. In my gosh,
<v Speaker 3>if you have a soul in your body, you are
<v Speaker 3>shedding tears in ten seconds of performance from this kid.
<v Speaker 2>Here is amazing. Yeah, it really is. Yeah. Jack Fisk
<v Speaker 2>was a friend of Spielberg. He had done a movie
<v Speaker 2>with Henry Thomas and suggested him one of the other
<v Speaker 2>boys that auditioned. So there's a hundred boys who auditioned
<v Speaker 2>for this role. Keith Coogan is one of the guys
<v Speaker 2>who auditioned. You will remember him as one of the
<v Speaker 2>kids in Adventures in Babysitting or Don't tell Mom the
<v Speaker 2>Babysitters Dead. Okay, Okay that guy, Yeah guy, Okay, gotcha. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Henry Thomas also auditioned in a Indiana Jones outfit. Real
<v Speaker 2>true story. Okay, the part of Gerty played by Drew Barrymore.
<v Speaker 4>Could be a monkey ranging a ball? Monkey?
<v Speaker 6>Is he a page? Sure?
<v Speaker 2>Eats like this one. I get a story on go ahead.
<v Speaker 2>So she came to.
<v Speaker 3>Audition not for this movie, but for Poultergeist. Got a
<v Speaker 3>little pretty little blonde girl yep In Poultergeist.
<v Speaker 2>Yep.
<v Speaker 3>She auditions for Steven Spielberg, and he says, you're not
<v Speaker 3>right for the part, but I think there is a
<v Speaker 3>part in another movie that I have that you're perfect for.
<v Speaker 3>And she was like, I didn't care. I was just
<v Speaker 3>like happy to hear that I was right for a part, right.
<v Speaker 4>You know.
<v Speaker 2>So I didn't get the movie. It came to audition four.
<v Speaker 2>But that's how she became Gerdy and et. You know,
<v Speaker 2>he was impressed when he started talking to her. He
<v Speaker 2>was asking her about herself and stuff like that, and
<v Speaker 2>she's like, you know what, I'm the leader of a
<v Speaker 2>punk band. And he's like that sounds like gerty. Yeah, right, Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>she's five, what five years old maybe when they're making
<v Speaker 2>this movie, six at most. Yeah, and she already got
<v Speaker 2>the imagination that hey, I'm gonna I'm not just I'm
<v Speaker 2>gonna be in a rock band, but I have a
<v Speaker 2>rock band.
<v Speaker 4>Right.
<v Speaker 3>She detailed it like I'm the singer. There's drummers she
<v Speaker 3>gave And he's like, this is kid's imagination is on point.
<v Speaker 2>We need to have her. Oh my gosh, she's so
<v Speaker 2>cute too.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and she comes from I mean she comes from
<v Speaker 3>acting royalty. I mean John Barrymore is one of the
<v Speaker 3>most famous actors of all time, and it's her grandfather,
<v Speaker 3>I believe.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but she nails it. She's perfect. She nails it.
<v Speaker 3>There isn't I don't think a cast member in this
<v Speaker 3>movie that is not perfect.
<v Speaker 2>Henry Thomas knocks it out of the park. Yeah, okay.
<v Speaker 2>Julia Lewis and Sarah Michelle Geller also auditioned for the
<v Speaker 2>part of Gerty. Okay, how about that good okay part
<v Speaker 2>from Michael. Robert McNaughton was the guy hired.
<v Speaker 4>Where's the playground?
<v Speaker 2>It's not wheres mom?
<v Speaker 4>Where's that Poe?
<v Speaker 1>Bless me?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? You know he He came out with another movie
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen eighty two. Do you know what, The Electric Grandmother?
<v Speaker 2>That's right, it keeps coming up. I don't know how
<v Speaker 2>these things happen, but if you will, remember Linda Gottlieb,
<v Speaker 2>the person who produced Dirty Dancing. The movie that she
<v Speaker 2>made right before she signed un to do Dirty Dancing
<v Speaker 2>was The Electric Grandmother. And yes, how does that movie
<v Speaker 2>keep coming up? It's like a bad penny. It's a
<v Speaker 2>good movie. We should watch it, okay. Robert mcnonton auditioned
<v Speaker 2>eight times for this. Ultimately he got it and he
<v Speaker 2>nails it. I mean the children's performances in this out
<v Speaker 2>of this World, and Spielberg has said they're not acting, goes,
<v Speaker 2>I just told him a story and it's just them
<v Speaker 2>being them. Yeah, real quick, Mary, who is their mother
<v Speaker 2>that I never knew her name? I think their last name,
<v Speaker 2>according to the script is Taylor. Okay, okay, both news
<v Speaker 2>to me. Yeah, okay. So Dee Wallace got the part
<v Speaker 2>when she goes to conferences and conventions, she's always referred
<v Speaker 2>to as Ethie's mom, which is kind of funny. They
<v Speaker 2>offered the part to Shelley Long Oh okay from Cheers. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>plays Diana Cheers. Okay, Now we mentioned that Peter Coyote,
<v Speaker 2>he plays the part of Keys I got. I got
<v Speaker 2>a story for you on this one. Go.
<v Speaker 3>So we talked about how Peter Coyote was one of
<v Speaker 3>the considerations for Indiana Jones.
<v Speaker 2>Right, yes, that's right. So he tells the story of
<v Speaker 2>his Indiana Jones audition, right, okay. He comes in his
<v Speaker 2>his agent has got him this audition with Steven Spielberg.
<v Speaker 2>He's excited. He's got a fedora that he wears. He's
<v Speaker 2>all decked out in the right gear, you know, and
<v Speaker 2>he's behind the curtain and his agent introduced is. He's like,
<v Speaker 2>mister Spielberg, I would like you to meet mister Peter Coyote.
<v Speaker 2>And he says, so, I come out from behind the curtain,
<v Speaker 2>and what you can't see is that these lights that
<v Speaker 2>they've got shining on you all have legs on them.
<v Speaker 2>And I see the legs, and so I catch one
<v Speaker 2>of these legs. I go careening off the stage on
<v Speaker 2>my face, and Steven Spielberg's just looking at me, like,
<v Speaker 2>who in the world is this horrible person? That's hilarious.
<v Speaker 2>But apparently I had enough of an impression on him
<v Speaker 2>that he thought this will be the perfect guy for
<v Speaker 2>the mysterious adult with the keys. Yes, because the first
<v Speaker 2>half or more of the movie all you see is
<v Speaker 2>his crotch. That's true, he said. My ex girlfriend after
<v Speaker 2>she saw the movie, She's like, I recognize you immediately.
<v Speaker 2>That's hilarious. All right. Now, then the part of et Okay,
<v Speaker 2>it's a combination of a few people. Yeah, okay, one
<v Speaker 2>you've heard of and when you haven't heard of.
<v Speaker 3>Probab, Well, it's more than that, because you've got voice,
<v Speaker 3>and you've got the body and hands and all that.
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, it's fascinating. So the voice of Et
<v Speaker 2>deva winger we know, recorded every line of ET's dialogue.
<v Speaker 2>She was a friend of Steven Spielberg. She had come
<v Speaker 2>by to see how things were going. Devera winger has
<v Speaker 2>this kind of deep, husky voice. Yeah, He's like, you
<v Speaker 2>know what, let's go ahead and let you record all
<v Speaker 2>this voices of VT. Now. Also, they combined her with
<v Speaker 2>a woman named Pat Welsh. Right. Pat had been an
<v Speaker 2>actress long time ago, like was in some old like fortiesties. Right. Yes,
<v Speaker 2>she spoke two packs a day and she was in
<v Speaker 2>the store when Ben Bert was there buying something. Ben Bert,
<v Speaker 2>who is the sound designer for every Star Wars and yes, everything,
<v Speaker 2>He heard her talk and he's like, hmm, this lady
<v Speaker 2>might be perfect for Et. Yeah, she had that a
<v Speaker 2>little vice. She was paid three hundred and eighty dollars
<v Speaker 2>a day to be ET's voice. Wow.
<v Speaker 3>So Et is usually an animatronic thing, right, because I
<v Speaker 3>then nobody has a neck that thin. And he said
<v Speaker 3>he didn't want it ever, anybody to ever think this
<v Speaker 3>is a guy in a costume. Yes, yes, And so
<v Speaker 3>in different scenes you have different folks inside the workings,
<v Speaker 3>there was a lady who wore gloves. She was like,
<v Speaker 3>I just happened to have very long fingers, and so
<v Speaker 3>she became the perfect hands for ET. So what she'll
<v Speaker 3>get a lot is her like laying on her back
<v Speaker 3>and having her hands up doing the glove work next
<v Speaker 3>to the animatronic Et as like a million other guys,
<v Speaker 3>Like there are literally dozens of guys doing all of
<v Speaker 3>the working processes for his eyes and his neck and
<v Speaker 3>all of these other things. But his hands remain real.
<v Speaker 3>They are gloved hands of this lady. But they also
<v Speaker 3>found a kid who had lost both of his legs,
<v Speaker 3>and he also was in it, and he would he
<v Speaker 3>would his hands which he used to get around. He
<v Speaker 3>would walk with his hands went into the feet of ET.
<v Speaker 3>So when you see Et getting drunk and he's like
<v Speaker 3>going through the kitchen and then suddenly just cook flat
<v Speaker 3>on his face, that is a little amputee kid who
<v Speaker 3>played the part of Et in a costume.
<v Speaker 2>Wow. Yeah, that's awesome. All right. We mentioned before, but
<v Speaker 2>there is a scene that you can see on YouTube
<v Speaker 2>of Harrison Ford as Elliott's principal. You don't never see
<v Speaker 2>his face, but his voice is clear as day, unmistakable,
<v Speaker 2>and he's kind of balling him out for getting drunk
<v Speaker 2>in school.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I see you, fine young people from good homes,
<v Speaker 5>every advantage, your whole life laid out in front.
<v Speaker 2>Of him, and Elliot's like, I'm sorry, sir, it never happened. Again,
<v Speaker 2>that's Harrison Ford. Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>At one point, Harrison Ford turns to look out the
<v Speaker 3>window as he's talking to him, and suddenly Elliott's chair
<v Speaker 3>like starts floating up to the ceiling, and of course
<v Speaker 3>it's this beautifully timed thing where it comes back down
<v Speaker 3>right as he turns back around, and Mary d Wallace
<v Speaker 3>comes in and they all leave it.
<v Speaker 2>Two more people I want to mention see Thomas Howell
<v Speaker 2>plays Tyler.
<v Speaker 4>We made it.
<v Speaker 2>The Buddies, one of the Buddies, yep, this is his
<v Speaker 2>film debut. He then goes on and he does The
<v Speaker 2>Outsiders and one of my favorite movie Secret Admirer. That
<v Speaker 2>part was also auditioned by Ralph Machu who they became
<v Speaker 2>Buddies and the Outsiders. Yeah. I think they're still friends.
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>But the one I really want to mention to you, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>is the pretty girl that Elliot kisses. Yeah, that is
<v Speaker 2>miss Erica Alaniac. Yeah, if you've ever seen the movie
<v Speaker 2>under Siege or Baywatch or bay Watch or you know
<v Speaker 2>some Playboys. I don't know what you're talking about there.
<v Speaker 2>What is playboys? Some sort of books, right right right?
<v Speaker 2>She goes on to become a Baywatch actress and she's
<v Speaker 2>I mean, she was the babe in under Siege. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>Google search, So that's going to do it for casting.
<v Speaker 2>For ET. Okay, let's talk twenty four to thirty six
<v Speaker 2>movie posters. You have three of the best movie posters
<v Speaker 2>of the eighties. Without a doubt, I'm about to blow
<v Speaker 2>your mind brow. Okay. So for ET, our artist is
<v Speaker 2>John Alvin, who is very well known in the movie
<v Speaker 2>poster world. That's the way several years ago. But he's
<v Speaker 2>got the Star Wars reissue, Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter,
<v Speaker 2>a ton of old movies. His first movie poster that
<v Speaker 2>he did was because mel Brooks was unhappy with the
<v Speaker 2>movie poster they did for Blazing Saddles, and so his
<v Speaker 2>first movie poster was Blazing Saddles. I know what what
<v Speaker 2>you're talking about.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then he also of course did Young Frankenstein
<v Speaker 3>because mel Brooks was he became his go to guy.
<v Speaker 3>So John Alvin is one of those huge names. He's
<v Speaker 3>an icon in the movie poster industry, and so Stephen
<v Speaker 3>Spielberg came to him with this idea for the poster
<v Speaker 3>for ET.
<v Speaker 2>Now.
<v Speaker 3>ET has a few different types of posters that were
<v Speaker 3>all familiar with. One of the most familiar is the
<v Speaker 3>big moon with the silhouette of them on the bicycle
<v Speaker 3>flying across.
<v Speaker 2>You know, the scene from the movie Amblin logo, right, right, Yes,
<v Speaker 2>that became the Ambulin logo years later when that company
<v Speaker 2>was formed, right yes, yes, But there's.
<v Speaker 3>Another iconic poster where the two fingers are touching, where
<v Speaker 3>you've got the little child's hand and the ET hand.
<v Speaker 3>They've got that glowing it's that ouch moment, right, And
<v Speaker 3>so that's the one that John Alvin did, and it
<v Speaker 3>was Spielberg's idea, and he said, Hey, I'm kind of
<v Speaker 3>looking for this Michelangelo creation.
<v Speaker 2>Of Adam kind of thing. And if you look at it,
<v Speaker 2>that's what the hands are. Yeah, right, I see it.
<v Speaker 3>And if you look at the little kid's hand, it's
<v Speaker 3>far too little of a kid. That is not Henry
<v Speaker 3>Thomas's hand. It's John Alvin's daughter who was six years
<v Speaker 3>old at the time.
<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's awesome.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so he created that image at Spielberg's request to
<v Speaker 3>be a creation like image. I love it, which is
<v Speaker 3>great because we'll talk about later on and how similar
<v Speaker 3>this is to some biblical stories that we're all familiar with.
<v Speaker 2>There's some interesting parallels there to be made. Yeah, So
<v Speaker 2>tell me about the Thing post. Okay, I'm gonna blow
<v Speaker 2>your mind with this. Okay. So the Thing poster is
<v Speaker 2>I think if there is one original piece of artwork
<v Speaker 2>from the eighties, that iconic poster that I would take,
<v Speaker 2>it's the Thing poster for me. That's it. Okay, Wow,
<v Speaker 2>I just love it. It's one of those when you look
<v Speaker 2>at it, you're like, what is happening here? This snowman
<v Speaker 2>is something's happening to his face. It's like this bright,
<v Speaker 2>shining thing. He doesn't have a face, and you're like, wow,
<v Speaker 2>what is this? I have to know what's going on
<v Speaker 2>in this movie. So it was made by Drew Strewsan
<v Speaker 2>another icon who we absolutely adore. This guy has done everything,
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Star Wars, Raiders Are the Lost Dark, He's
<v Speaker 2>done a billion movie posters exactly. Okay, but he wasn't
<v Speaker 2>the original artist. So the original artist came up with
<v Speaker 2>a poster that John Carpenter hated. Okay, and the studio
<v Speaker 2>didn't like it, and so they called Drew Strewsan and
<v Speaker 2>they're like, hey, Drew, we need a movie poster. Are
<v Speaker 2>you busy right now? And he's like, no, I can
<v Speaker 2>do a movie poster for you. They're like, okay, because
<v Speaker 2>we need it tomorrow. He did this in twenty four hours.
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh. So he's like, okay, great, what's the
<v Speaker 2>movie about? And they're like, ah, I'm not really sure.
<v Speaker 2>He's like, well, who's in it? And they're like, well,
<v Speaker 2>we don't really know that much about it. He's like,
<v Speaker 2>how am I supposed to do a poster on it?
<v Speaker 2>And they're like, well, we know it's a remake of
<v Speaker 2>the Thing from Another World, the nineteen fifty one movie.
<v Speaker 2>Well that's a big difference from what we get in
<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty two. Oh yeah for sure. So Drewstersan took
<v Speaker 2>that idea, this is a remake of the Thing from
<v Speaker 2>Another World. He actually got in his ski gear, went outside,
<v Speaker 2>his wife took the pictures of him in his ski
<v Speaker 2>gear until he found one that he liked. So drews
<v Speaker 2>drews En not only drew this poster in twenty four hours. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>one of the most iconic posters of the eighties, but
<v Speaker 2>he's also starring in the poster. That's him. That's awesome.
<v Speaker 2>All right, what do you got for me on Blade Runner? Okay?
<v Speaker 2>So Blade Runner? They called up Drew Strewsan yes, and
<v Speaker 2>they said I want you to make a poster. Yes,
<v Speaker 2>but they weren't happy with it, and so they called
<v Speaker 2>up John Alvin. Oh my gosh, and John Alvin did
<v Speaker 2>the poster in his John Alvin style. If you look
<v Speaker 2>at Blazing Saddles or Harry Potter or any of you
<v Speaker 2>know the hundreds of John Alvin where they've got all
<v Speaker 2>those heads you know around, Yep, you look at the
<v Speaker 2>Blade Runner poster, you're like, oh, same guy. Right, Okay,
<v Speaker 2>So ladies and gentlemen listeners, you won't be able to
<v Speaker 2>see what I'm about to show Jason right now, but
<v Speaker 2>you're familiar with the old Blade Runner poster. Yes, I'm
<v Speaker 2>gonna show you this one. Have you seen this before?
<v Speaker 2>I have seen that one.
<v Speaker 3>So this if you're listening, if you go to the
<v Speaker 3>two thousand and seven final cut, there have been a
<v Speaker 3>couple of different remakes of Blade Runner where they did
<v Speaker 3>a director's cut, and then in two thousand and seven
<v Speaker 3>they did a final cut and they released it on DVD. Well,
<v Speaker 3>at that time, Ridley Scott contacted Drew Strusan again and
<v Speaker 3>he said, Hey, I actually liked your poster better, but
<v Speaker 3>the studio guys said they wanted to go with John
<v Speaker 3>Alvin's poster. But I'm about to do this reissue. Can
<v Speaker 3>I use your poster instead? And so he had just
<v Speaker 3>had these base drawings that he had used, and they're
<v Speaker 3>so similar. They're so similar in style because you've got
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you've got Deckard as the big head there,
<v Speaker 3>but it's this collage of different faces from the movie.
<v Speaker 3>And so strews antickes his old artwork from nineteen eighty
<v Speaker 3>two and creates the new poster for two thousand and
<v Speaker 3>seven You.
<v Speaker 2>Follow Me Away. I love both of those posters. They
<v Speaker 2>are fantastic. They're both iconic. Hey, ET's got two iconic posters.
<v Speaker 2>Blade Runner has two. The Thing I think has one.
<v Speaker 2>But they're all amazing. Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>The other thing about the thing is that the font
<v Speaker 3>for the thing, like in the posters that I've seen
<v Speaker 3>usually you've got this kind of standard impact style font.
<v Speaker 3>But there are also posters that have the kind of
<v Speaker 3>jagged letters that you get from the opening credits of
<v Speaker 3>the movie. And there's a great story about how they
<v Speaker 3>came up with that particular thing, which we'll talk about
<v Speaker 3>when we do our special effects part of things. But
<v Speaker 3>I have seen some posters that have it on there.
<v Speaker 3>But what I like so much about the Thing poster
<v Speaker 3>is it's a mystery who that guy is, who that
<v Speaker 3>snowsuit person is, which goes even though he didn't know
<v Speaker 3>what happened in the movie, he goes right along with
<v Speaker 3>the key element of the movie of we don't know
<v Speaker 3>who's the thing and who's not.
<v Speaker 2>It could be anyone.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this bright shining light is a faceless man who
<v Speaker 3>could be my best friend or an alien who wants
<v Speaker 3>to kill me.
<v Speaker 2>The person who made that poster did not know the
<v Speaker 2>plot of the movie and yet still nailed it. And
<v Speaker 2>I just discovered this.
<v Speaker 3>I haven't seen it yet, but there is literally a
<v Speaker 3>ten minute video out there came out this same time
<v Speaker 3>as the final cut two thousand and seven, called promoting Dystopia,
<v Speaker 3>rendering the poster art featuring John Alvin and Drew Strews
<v Speaker 3>in talking about creating the poster art for Blade Runner
<v Speaker 3>Past and.
<v Speaker 2>Present, Love Love It, two of the best, And people
<v Speaker 2>said these movies weren't connected. People said these movies weren't
<v Speaker 2>any good. Yeah, I know, man, I know. It's crazy.
<v Speaker 2>You gotta be a and kidding me to quote a
<v Speaker 2>line from The Thing. Okay, I've got a few tidbits
<v Speaker 2>before we get into the big questions. I love it.
<v Speaker 2>Let's go, man, all right, So talking about the Thing,
<v Speaker 2>Keith David broke his hand in a car accident the
<v Speaker 2>day before shooting began. Okay, so like the first half
<v Speaker 2>of the movie, he's always hiding his left hand. Huh.
<v Speaker 2>They actually had to paint his cast his complexion for
<v Speaker 2>certain scenes. Right, It's kind of like Lost Boys.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, where Keith for Sutherland breaks his hand on the
<v Speaker 3>motorcycle accident and then you see him he's just wearing yeah,
<v Speaker 3>weird glove the whole time.
<v Speaker 2>Okay. Carpenter calls the Thing part of his Apocalypse trilogy.
<v Speaker 2>You have the Thing, you have Prints of Darkness, and
<v Speaker 2>you have in the Mouth of Madness. Okay, I haven't
<v Speaker 2>seen those other two.
<v Speaker 3>I have not seen those other two either. I've heard
<v Speaker 3>they're good, but I haven't seen them.
<v Speaker 2>Okay. One of the things they said was so difficult
<v Speaker 2>about the shoot of the thing. They couldn't get any beer.
<v Speaker 2>What they couldn't get beer where they were? Okay, so
<v Speaker 2>they're up in was it British Columbia? They were up
<v Speaker 2>in Nowheresville, British Columbia. Right.
<v Speaker 3>So they found their set by trying to find a
<v Speaker 3>place that could pass for Antarctica, right, right, And so
<v Speaker 3>in Antarctica the only thing that you have are snow
<v Speaker 3>and mountains, that's really about it. And so they found
<v Speaker 3>that spot. But there was this tree in the middle
<v Speaker 3>of the set. And so what they did, the big
<v Speaker 3>tower that you see on the set that they built
<v Speaker 3>is the one thing that's covering that lone tree.
<v Speaker 4>Is that right?
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that that's good?
<v Speaker 3>And so also that's interesting because you know they had
<v Speaker 3>to have another set for the Swedes camp that they
<v Speaker 3>go and investigate, right, Yes, So what they did is
<v Speaker 3>they filmed that scene at the end when they destroyed
<v Speaker 3>the camp at the climax of the movie by blowing
<v Speaker 3>everything up. They were left with a bunch of burnt rubble.
<v Speaker 3>Well that's what you see as the camp for the
<v Speaker 3>Swedes in Norwegians or whatever they are.
<v Speaker 2>They not Swedes creating the Norwegians. That's brilliant, that's brilliant.
<v Speaker 2>I did hear this that a couple of Thing superfans, Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>went all the way to Stuart, British Columbia, in like
<v Speaker 2>twenty eighteen and they found bits of the set still there.
<v Speaker 2>That's awesome.
<v Speaker 3>They built it during the summertime and then just let
<v Speaker 3>the snow fall yep, which I mean that's a cheaper
<v Speaker 3>way to go for sure, but they still even in that,
<v Speaker 3>they still had to use fake snow for their blizzard scenes.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, here's an interesting thing that they mentioned on the commentary.
<v Speaker 2>There are some underlying parallels regarding the ving and infection
<v Speaker 2>and not knowing who has it and who to be
<v Speaker 2>afraid of, huh, and the AIDS virus Oh okay, which
<v Speaker 2>was happening. I mean they started shooting in eighty one
<v Speaker 2>and it was just sort of coming into awareness and
<v Speaker 2>people didn't really know how you got it, how it
<v Speaker 2>was transmitted. They didn't know anything about it, right, but
<v Speaker 2>people were afraid of it. Kurt Russell's brother in law
<v Speaker 2>was the Norwegian guy in the helicopter who kept trying
<v Speaker 2>to shoot the dog at the beginning. That was Kurt
<v Speaker 2>Russell's brother in law. Okay, I think this is interesting.
<v Speaker 2>Windows can't reach anybody in the world world, right, so
<v Speaker 2>he tries to get people on the radio. You talk
<v Speaker 2>about the character Windows, the character Windows, Yeah, I got you, Yes, Yah.
<v Speaker 2>It wears the sunglasses all the time.
<v Speaker 1>Yea.
<v Speaker 2>When he tries to reach the outside world, he can't
<v Speaker 2>get any response back. Yeah. John Carpentras posed the theory
<v Speaker 2>that maybe it's because one of the Norwegian team left
<v Speaker 2>infected and the entire world is now gone. Yeah, that's interesting.
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of interesting to think about it.
<v Speaker 3>So the end of the book that you know where
<v Speaker 3>you watch the Skies thing, mm hmm, you get the
<v Speaker 3>albatross the for the spring thaw or whatever, the albatross.
<v Speaker 3>They see it flying overhead and it's coming from the
<v Speaker 3>same direction as the camp, which is probably where you
<v Speaker 3>get that watch the Sky's line.
<v Speaker 2>Interesting. Okay, cool, Okay, you want some tidbits on Blade Runner,
<v Speaker 2>hit me all right. In nineteen sixty nine, there was
<v Speaker 2>a young upcoming director who was interested in directing The
<v Speaker 2>Blade Runner. Okay, you know who this is sixty nine. Yep,
<v Speaker 2>no March Scorsese, okay, wanted to film Blade Runner. Okay.
<v Speaker 2>The final scene of Blade Runner is shot in a
<v Speaker 2>very prominent LA building. Yeah, the Bradbury, Right, it's the
<v Speaker 2>Bradbury Building. Yeah. The screenwriters went to really Scott and said,
<v Speaker 2>please do not film this in this building. Every TV
<v Speaker 2>show known to man has been filmed in this building.
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, and really Scott's like, he says, nobody has
<v Speaker 2>filmed it the way I'm going to film it. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>and you know what, he was right, he was right. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>it looks completely different now you recognize it. It is
<v Speaker 2>recognizable to Core and they, I mean they even have it.
<v Speaker 2>You see the Bradbury written on the top of the place. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>but I mean they're supposed to be in LA twenty nineteen, right, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>but twenty nineteen. Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>But the idea is is that it is decayed significantly.
<v Speaker 3>It has become as cyberpunk as the rest of the
<v Speaker 3>world is.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I sent you a video. The Genesis Tonight Tonight
<v Speaker 2>Tonight video from the Invisible Touch album was shot in
<v Speaker 2>the Bradberry Building. Nice. When you look at the video,
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, it was like Blade Runner Okay, I'm gonna
<v Speaker 2>blow your mind with this. You're ready for this? Yeah, okay.
<v Speaker 2>So one of the most sought after props from the
<v Speaker 2>eighties was Decord's pistol. Somebody actually stole it from the set. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>it was gone for thirty years and then cropped back
<v Speaker 2>up for an auction. Okay, that pistol. It looks really cool,
<v Speaker 2>but it was actually made from a rifle. Okay, I
<v Speaker 2>can see that. Yeah, they built it out of the
<v Speaker 2>remnants of a rifle, which made it extremely heavy. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>but it looks super cool. I love that gun.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's big and bulky, but what you expect from
<v Speaker 3>a future gun. That's cool. So did they find it?
<v Speaker 3>What happened thirty years later?
<v Speaker 2>It just appeared like they couldn't find the prop anymore.
<v Speaker 2>It was gone, whoosh, whoosh, vanished, It grew little gun
<v Speaker 2>legs and walked off. Somebody walked off with it, and
<v Speaker 2>then it appeared like in twenty fifteen for a for
<v Speaker 2>an auction. Let's talk about the company curse from Blade Runner.
<v Speaker 2>Have you heard about this? Well, I sent you.
<v Speaker 3>I noticed something as I was watching as he was
<v Speaker 3>going by, and when I saw the first sign, I
<v Speaker 3>was like, oh man, these signs are all over the place,
<v Speaker 3>but I saw a giant sign for Atari on there,
<v Speaker 3>and then you hit me with this bit of info.
<v Speaker 2>So these are all companies that are prominently shown in
<v Speaker 2>the movie Blade Runner. Yeah, Atari, Yeah, RCA, Bell, Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>Pan Am Hi Fi Yeah, Coca Cola, right, all of
<v Speaker 2>all of those have failed. That's the curse part, except
<v Speaker 2>for Coca Cola. Coke took a huge dive in nineteen
<v Speaker 2>eighty five though, when they introduced New Coke and got
<v Speaker 2>their buzzkick for about a year before they came to
<v Speaker 2>their senses and recovered. And of course, what was the
<v Speaker 2>game that killed Atari? It is that's exactly right. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna blow your mind with this. Yeah, okay, ye
<v Speaker 2>stay with me on this now. Okay. So in the
<v Speaker 2>movie Alien on the Nostromo, they use this bit of
<v Speaker 2>software that is also used in Blade Runner. Okay, okay, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>it's in Harrison Ford's floating car. Okay, okay, same software program.
<v Speaker 2>You can actually see it's the same screen. So that
<v Speaker 2>means that really Scott's Alien and really Scott's Blade Runner
<v Speaker 2>share universe. Okay, Okay with me so far, I'm with you. Now,
<v Speaker 2>then we know that Alien and the Predator movies share universe.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah they do. Now they do? Yeah, So that means Alien,
<v Speaker 2>Blade Runner, and Predator all share universe. Okay, okay, Now
<v Speaker 2>then Terminator shares the universe with aliens. Okay, Cyberdine all right, right,
<v Speaker 2>Cyberdyne yet is involved in the Alien universe. That means
<v Speaker 2>the Terminator, Alien, Blade Runner, Predator all share universe, and
<v Speaker 2>the Abyss what the abyss is involved in it? They're
<v Speaker 2>all part of the same shared universe. Oh my gosh, directly,
<v Speaker 2>some indirectly. But I think that's really cool that when
<v Speaker 2>I started putting those together, I'm like, holy God, that's
<v Speaker 2>pretty neat. I like, a good job. Okay, you're gonna
<v Speaker 2>have to trust me on this. But there is a
<v Speaker 2>city scape scene where if you change the lighting just
<v Speaker 2>right and you put this in front of it, you
<v Speaker 2>can see the Millennium Falcon as a building. Really, yes,
<v Speaker 2>it is in the background and it's used as like
<v Speaker 2>part of the city scape. Okay. One of the sort
<v Speaker 2>of underlying themes of Blade Runner is that maybe all
<v Speaker 2>animals are extinct. Yeah, that's the way that the novel
<v Speaker 2>starts out, I believe is that I think one of
<v Speaker 2>the first animals to die off are the owls, which
<v Speaker 2>is why the owl is important in Tyrrell's office building. Okay, well,
<v Speaker 2>Harrison Ford actually, when he's questioning Zora, he asked her
<v Speaker 2>if that's a real snake. Yeah, She's like crazy, I
<v Speaker 2>can't afford a real snake, right, what are you talking about. Well,
<v Speaker 2>one of the interesting things that he gets, one of
<v Speaker 2>those scales appears think and it's got like a code
<v Speaker 2>on it. Yeah. Yeah, So when they zoom in the
<v Speaker 2>actual picture that is in the movie, yeah, is actually
<v Speaker 2>a zoomed in picture of a marijuana but oh really yeah, Okay,
<v Speaker 2>it's not snake at all. Yeah. Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>I think that the idea is that the humanity that's
<v Speaker 3>left on Earth are kind of the rejects, like everybody else,
<v Speaker 3>like all the pretty people.
<v Speaker 2>You'll notice this.
<v Speaker 3>Virtually all of the people on Earth in Blade Runner
<v Speaker 3>are unattractive unless they're a replicant.
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna talk about the big question about who exactly
<v Speaker 2>are replicants and who are not replicants. That's gonna be
<v Speaker 2>in part three. Let's talk about the love scene for
<v Speaker 2>just a second. Okay, say you love me? Say it? Again,
<v Speaker 2>mean it kind of it's very noir.
<v Speaker 3>It's comfortable. Yeah, it's a little rough, it is, but
<v Speaker 3>you're right. It is also very noir type of thing.
<v Speaker 3>It is very Philip Marlowe, Raymond Chandler.
<v Speaker 2>It's something you might see in a movie from the forties,
<v Speaker 2>you know, Humphrey, Billgert Yeah, okay, James Bond, yes, oh yeah, Goldfinger,
<v Speaker 2>My gosh, I thought this was interesting. Alan Ladd Junior
<v Speaker 2>actually chose the release date of Blade Runner, Okay. He
<v Speaker 2>chose June twenty fifth, nineteen eighty two, and he saw
<v Speaker 2>twenty five as a lucky date, okay, because Star Wars
<v Speaker 2>had been released on May twenty fifth. Right, An Alien
<v Speaker 2>had been released on May twenty fifth. Uh huh, it
<v Speaker 2>was not a lucky date for I mean in the
<v Speaker 2>long run, I guess sure, but definitely not as far
<v Speaker 2>as the box office is concerned. Yeah, Philip K. Dick
<v Speaker 2>died before he got to see the entire movie.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean he died in March. The movie didn't
<v Speaker 3>come out until June, so yeah, he did not get
<v Speaker 3>to see the final product.
<v Speaker 2>He did get to see one shot that they showed
<v Speaker 2>him of the World of la In twenty nineteen. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>he felt like somebody had like come into his brain
<v Speaker 2>and extracted the image.
<v Speaker 3>David Wright was talking to us about this earlier today,
<v Speaker 3>about how cyberpunk this world is and the way that
<v Speaker 3>they took the fashion of cyberpunk and created an entire
<v Speaker 3>city scape that embodied that style is amazing. It is
<v Speaker 3>a flawlessly executed, beautiful, dirty, grimy futuristic scene.
<v Speaker 2>It is incredible, and it's all practical effects. Yeah, no,
<v Speaker 2>CGI hope it looks amazing. Yeah. In fact, they shot
<v Speaker 2>it I think on the Universal Lot and they did
<v Speaker 2>it and it's like one block of the Universal Lot
<v Speaker 2>and really, Scott's like, I don't know if this is
<v Speaker 2>going to be big enough. They were just very careful
<v Speaker 2>at how they shot it, and so it looks huge. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>but it's just one block. Okay, tidbits free t hit
<v Speaker 2>me all right. I thought this was really cool. Et
<v Speaker 2>was shot in chronological order, Okay, that was done on
<v Speaker 2>purpose so that it would help the kid's performance. And
<v Speaker 2>the kid's performance is incredible. We already said that before.
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it's amazing.
<v Speaker 3>Well, there's one scene that they did shoot out of
<v Speaker 3>sequence that they wanted to get over early. I think
<v Speaker 3>we may have talked about it that first shot.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the kiss, the kiss, Let's get that. Steven Spielberg
<v Speaker 2>wanted the kiss done. Yeah, okay, we did talk before
<v Speaker 2>about how Steven Spielberg worked on both Et and Poldergeist
<v Speaker 2>at the same time. Officially, Poultrygeist's director is Toby Hooper. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>but there's a lot of people who said Steven Spielberg
<v Speaker 2>really directed that movie. In the closet scene in ET, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I say that. There's multiple closet scenes. Are you talking
<v Speaker 2>about the one with Dee Wallace? When Dee Wallace opens
<v Speaker 2>the door to the closet and there's nothing but stuffed animals.
<v Speaker 2>The camera pans and there's ET's deadpan face, and the
<v Speaker 2>whole audience is like, Oh, there's Et, and she doesn't notice.
<v Speaker 2>She grabs a shirt or whatever off of the closer
<v Speaker 2>rac That was Robert Smecchus's idea. That was his gag.
<v Speaker 2>That's lovely. Oh, that's great, super funny. Do you know
<v Speaker 2>that Corey Feldman was supposed to be one of Elliot's buddies. Well,
<v Speaker 2>as they started working, it turns out they didn't need
<v Speaker 2>that buddy. They had everything they needed, so they had
<v Speaker 2>to chop that character. Well, Steven Spielberg felt bad about that,
<v Speaker 2>and that's why he is in Crevalins. Nice. One of
<v Speaker 2>the scenes that we'll talk about next week, I'm sure
<v Speaker 2>when we have reaction is the like the Trioche scene
<v Speaker 2>with Et. Yeah, those are real doctors. I noticed that.
<v Speaker 2>I was looking through the cast and I was like,
<v Speaker 2>oh my gosh, these guys are mds. Some of them
<v Speaker 2>are mds. And then there's also a PhD in there
<v Speaker 2>as well. Yeah, Steven Spielberg just said, hey, treat him
<v Speaker 2>like you would treat any other patient in the emergency room. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>he's flatlining, what do you do? Go for it? And
<v Speaker 2>that's why you have that real feel of its you know,
<v Speaker 2>actual doctors. Great. Yeah, the communicator that Et builds two
<v Speaker 2>phone home, yes, with the speaking spell and the bus
<v Speaker 2>chainsaw blade yeah, or that's right, the circular saw blade
<v Speaker 2>that actually worked. They contacted aliens, yes, and that's how
<v Speaker 2>the ship came. I mean, how else are you gonna
<v Speaker 2>film a space if you don't contact the aliens first.
<v Speaker 2>That's how they got in at the actually worked. It
<v Speaker 2>gave me actually works. It was a working transmitter. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>it worked as a transmitter like a radio. Yes, okay,
<v Speaker 2>all right, it's speaking spelled out into space. I'm telling
<v Speaker 2>you I'm not speaking a spell expert. But apparently phoned home.
<v Speaker 2>It phoned somebody. Okay, all right, let's talk about the
<v Speaker 2>huge mistake that Mars company made when it denied Eminem's
<v Speaker 2>to be used as the candy in et. Man, that
<v Speaker 2>was that guy should have gotten fired. They thought he
<v Speaker 2>was too scary for kids. Oh man, I can see
<v Speaker 2>that decision being made, like as as you know, somebody
<v Speaker 2>who works in a corporate atmosphere, you know, you're just like, oh,
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, do we really want to associate ourselves
<v Speaker 2>with this thing? Is it really gonna get I mean,
<v Speaker 2>it's not like the Eminem's you know, went under Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I mean they're still obviously very successful. But I had
<v Speaker 2>some the Reese's Pieces sales I mean went through the roof. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Was it even a candy before it was? It was
<v Speaker 2>like a new candy, Like he was just on the
<v Speaker 2>market and they said, well, you know, call races and
<v Speaker 2>see if they've got anything. Hey, we got this new
<v Speaker 2>thing called we call Reese's Pieces. I know what I
<v Speaker 2>bought when I went to the store in nineteen eighty two.
<v Speaker 2>Heck yeah, I still get them with my popcorn and
<v Speaker 2>the movies to this day. There you go. You know,
<v Speaker 2>in the novelization of ET, it's still Eminem's interesting. Yep.
<v Speaker 2>And it didn't start product placement. There's like this urban
<v Speaker 2>legend that that's when product placement started. But I mean,
<v Speaker 2>I think no. We talked about it in our Jabs
<v Speaker 2>episode of the Coca Cola signs. See you around there, Superman.
<v Speaker 2>It's seven years before at least, yes, so really quickly.
<v Speaker 2>Spielberg has mentioned that he's actually a plant, like a
<v Speaker 2>plant being.
<v Speaker 3>I don't think that means that he's like vegetable matter,
<v Speaker 3>like the thing from another world. What he's talking about
<v Speaker 3>is that he is like a botany guy, but he's
<v Speaker 3>he's like a low level like he's the grunt who
<v Speaker 3>you send out to go pick up some flowers so
<v Speaker 3>that you so that the scientists, the real brains, can
<v Speaker 3>study him. So that's what the Ets are doing at
<v Speaker 3>the beginning of the movie, is there are all these
<v Speaker 3>grunts out there collecting specimens for the smarter aliens who
<v Speaker 3>are back home.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, well that's interesting because I heard him say that
<v Speaker 2>in reference to like his heartlight. Okay, and they wanted
<v Speaker 2>it to look more plant like than you could see
<v Speaker 2>what the inner workings of his chest. Yeah, because you
<v Speaker 2>don't want to.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you don't want to have the eminems be
<v Speaker 3>scared away, right, I mean, we don't want this to
<v Speaker 3>be terrifying. You don't want this to be you know,
<v Speaker 3>oh my gosh, we can see the glowing innards of
<v Speaker 3>the alien. It just needs to be something simpler, like
<v Speaker 3>a vegetable, I guess.
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, okay, Hey, that heartlight was actually genius on
<v Speaker 2>Spielberg's part. It works like the dorsal fin in Jaws
<v Speaker 2>at the beginning of the movie. We still haven't got
<v Speaker 2>a good look at et, but his little red light
<v Speaker 2>right comes on and we can track him. We see
<v Speaker 2>where he's going, we see what's happening. It's got a
<v Speaker 2>good dimmer switch. Yeah, it's like the world's worst evolutionary
<v Speaker 2>thing for a being who gets scared is trying to
<v Speaker 2>hide and his light comes on. This is not quite
<v Speaker 2>an ocular emission. It's an involuntary light emission. I'm threatened
<v Speaker 2>and I'm scared here. I am by the way, you
<v Speaker 2>heard Neil Diamond's song Heartlight.
<v Speaker 6>Might say, turn on your hot light.
<v Speaker 2>Let it shine wherever.
<v Speaker 6>Let you go, Let it big, happy glow for all
<v Speaker 6>the world to see.
<v Speaker 2>Do you ever wonder where that song came from? You're kidding? No,
<v Speaker 2>I am not. You are kidding. No, it came from
<v Speaker 2>E T E T. Okay, you just ruled my mind
<v Speaker 2>right there, my friend, leave my mind? All right? Well,
<v Speaker 2>I think that does it for this episode. Okay, d
<v Speaker 2>We've got a surely showcase this week from our buddies
<v Speaker 2>over at the All Eighties Podcast.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is Bill Band and Jason Massek, who do
<v Speaker 3>a fantastic podcast over there. They are weighing in on
<v Speaker 3>their opinion of et versus The Thing versus Blade Runner.
<v Speaker 3>Let's hear what they have to say.
<v Speaker 4>Hey, guys, it's Jason and Bill here from the All
<v Speaker 4>Eighties Movies Podcast. First off, we would like to thank
<v Speaker 4>you fine gentlemen, Dan, Jason, and surely you can't be
<v Speaker 4>serious for asking us to weigh in on this discussion.
<v Speaker 4>It is an honor as Bill and I are both
<v Speaker 4>big fans of what you do and how you do it.
<v Speaker 4>So we've been charged with the unenviable task of hitting
<v Speaker 4>these early eighties classics against one another. Well, let's get
<v Speaker 4>right into it, build bands and start with ET the
<v Speaker 4>Extra Terrestrial. And you know what, I was trying to
<v Speaker 4>think of one word that would capture the essence of
<v Speaker 4>each of these three great iconic films. For ET, I
<v Speaker 4>chose the word wonderment. I was eight years old, right
<v Speaker 4>in the midst of the phenomenon known as Star Wars,
<v Speaker 4>so when ET was released, I was already all about
<v Speaker 4>that SI five. It delivered. It's what Spielberg does best.
<v Speaker 4>It captures the essence of the small town atmosphere during
<v Speaker 4>this particular time period, and it's told through the childlike lens,
<v Speaker 4>this view of wide eyed wonderment and discovery, friendship, adventure.
<v Speaker 4>And of course, for me, a huge ingredient in this
<v Speaker 4>film is the unforgettable John Williams score. It's a character
<v Speaker 4>into itself. We have the iconic flying bicycle sequence, ET
<v Speaker 4>Phone home, I left, I cried, There's some scary moments.
<v Speaker 4>Even the bottom line is I left the theater having
<v Speaker 4>felt true escapism and entertainment. And I was a sap
<v Speaker 4>then and I am still a sap now. For the
<v Speaker 4>saccharin spield early, I'll never ever tie that. Just give
<v Speaker 4>me more moving on to the thing. The word I've
<v Speaker 4>chosen is infectious. Bill Batt. This movie has Kurt Russell,
<v Speaker 4>who is Craig Harry and always takes the story to
<v Speaker 4>the next level. This movie has Keith David, which means
<v Speaker 4>it has to be good, right yeah, hell yeah Keith David.
<v Speaker 4>This movie has incredible visual effects by Rob Botten that
<v Speaker 4>mostly hold up today, but at its essence, really it's
<v Speaker 4>it's about the tension, the building up of tension, the
<v Speaker 4>pacing of this film. It really taps into the darkness
<v Speaker 4>of my imagination. What I love about this movie is
<v Speaker 4>that it makes me ask the question what if? Meaning
<v Speaker 4>what would I do if I were in the situation.
<v Speaker 4>There's the iconic Petri dish scene. I love this Ennio
<v Speaker 4>Morricone score, and it has one of the best endings
<v Speaker 4>of all time. Bill Bann. It's down to two survivors
<v Speaker 4>and one may be infected with the alien virus. But
<v Speaker 4>which one will we find out?
<v Speaker 2>Nope?
<v Speaker 4>Cut to black and that's how you do a cliffhanger. Now, last,
<v Speaker 4>but not least, we have Blade Rudder and the word
<v Speaker 4>I've chosen to encapsulate this iconic film is immersion. Once
<v Speaker 4>I enter this world I'm in, and once this movie
<v Speaker 4>is finished, it takes me a while to separate myself
<v Speaker 4>from it because it is a totally immersive experience. It's
<v Speaker 4>an assault on its senses in the best possible way.
<v Speaker 4>This is a dystopian future that's lived in it's dark.
<v Speaker 4>It captures a real, real, distinct feeling. It's a hard
<v Speaker 4>boil to film noir, which I'm a sucker for. I
<v Speaker 4>don't know what a blade Runner is, a replicant, is
<v Speaker 4>a Nexus six model, I don't care. I'm fascinated at
<v Speaker 4>the setting, the landscape, the architecture, the overall designed the
<v Speaker 4>flying cars. This entire film is stunning. And at the end,
<v Speaker 4>it's about that Phinalee between Rip Deckerd and Roy Baddie,
<v Speaker 4>and you've got Harrison Ford staring at Rutner Hower like
<v Speaker 4>as if it were his own, facing his own mortality
<v Speaker 4>and well maybe possibly knowing what he is himself, depending
<v Speaker 4>on your interpretation of the movie. Now for my judgment,
<v Speaker 4>et We'll always have my heart and take care of
<v Speaker 4>the child inside me. The thing if it's on television,
<v Speaker 4>Phil Man, I gotta watch this movie because of its gripping,
<v Speaker 4>nail biting tension, but ultimately Blade Runner is the winner
<v Speaker 4>because of its lasting impact on cinema and this genre
<v Speaker 4>of filmmaking.
<v Speaker 7>Jason, great pick. I couldn't sum up those movies any
<v Speaker 7>better myself. So for my pick, the family Man or a.
<v Speaker 2>Child in Me.
<v Speaker 7>Of course he's going to go with et the film nerd,
<v Speaker 7>film buff, filmmaker. Hit me of course is going Blade Runner.
<v Speaker 7>But if you give me a bucket of popcorn, a
<v Speaker 7>nice comfy couch, I'm popping the thing on and I'm
<v Speaker 7>watching that one. I'm picking the thing.
<v Speaker 2>Thank you.
<v Speaker 4>Surely you can't be serious, Dan, Jason, thanks for letting
<v Speaker 4>us talk about these great movies.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, they're kind of hedging their beds a little bit.
<v Speaker 3>It sounds like they're picking all of them. I think,
<v Speaker 3>if I got it right, I think that Jason is
<v Speaker 3>picking Blade Runner and Bill is picking the Thing. Although
<v Speaker 3>basically they all they picked all of the movies, which.
<v Speaker 2>You can't go wrong. You can't why this is a
<v Speaker 2>hard joint. They're all awesome. Thank you guys for weighing
<v Speaker 2>in on your final judgment. If you want to go
<v Speaker 2>over there and check out their podcast, they run an
<v Speaker 2>excellent podcast, All Eighties Movies Podcast.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, guys, that does it for Part two. Be sure
<v Speaker 3>to come back next week.
<v Speaker 2>Next week, we're gonna talk about the big questions we're
<v Speaker 2>gonna ask ourselves. Is Decker a replicant? Is E T
<v Speaker 2>a Jedi? Is is E T Jedi? E Ta Jedi? Boy?
<v Speaker 2>You got it? That's it? You had me there? Say
<v Speaker 2>anything else? Coming back? Well, come back next week. We're
<v Speaker 2>gonna ask the big questions.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, is Child's the thing? Or is mccreedy the thing?
<v Speaker 3>Or are they both a thing? I think that's where
<v Speaker 3>you're gonna go with all that. That's where I was saying,
<v Speaker 3>is E T a Jedi?
<v Speaker 2>That? I mean, that's a teaser enough for anybody.
<v Speaker 6>I think.
<v Speaker 2>Hey, let's go part three next week, guys,