Ultimate Girls Trip Tea and Potomac Ends in Colorado Chaos with Dustin, Claudia, and Blue

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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King. I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your favorite shows from the Real Housewives of Atlanta, New Jersey and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or scripted as well. We are going to recap the finale. I guess of the Real Housewives, but told me that's what.

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Speaker 2: They're calling it. The finale. We're talking about that.

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Speaker 1: But first thing first, Dustin and I are going to now discuss the fact that The Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip is filming and Baby Atlanta did not disappoint.

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Speaker 2: If you don't know, now you know. Nimi Leaks is back, okay on Bravo. Mimi Leaked. I'm not gonna give too much away because I do know a lot. I'm not gonna give too.

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Speaker 1: Much away unless doesn't ask me questions. But what I will say is Meimi definitely filmed. She may have filmed more than once from what we saw on the pictures right Pedro was there, Porsia was there one night.

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Speaker 2: Another night, Nimi was there.

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Speaker 1: With with Porsche, Charae, Kim Zosiak, Lisa Wu, Candace Dillar Bassett was there with Giselle Bryant, Robert Nixon and Ashley. Carlos King did hear that allegedly dusted a conversation happened between Kansas and Ashley?

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Speaker 3: Wow? Good, good, good, That's exactly what we want.

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Speaker 4: There's no way we're gonna have all those women in the mix and not half the important conversations take place.

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Speaker 3: So good.

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Speaker 4: I hope that. I hope a bunch of people talk. I hope Cynthia and Nini had a conversation. I hope Mini and Kim had a conversation. I hope Meni and Phedro had a conversation. I hope Marlow was just being Marlow. You know what I'm.

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Speaker 3: Saying, Shut it down, Shut it down.

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Speaker 4: And I think a lot of people that saw those photos and again again we're referring to the recent filming that took place in Atlanta for the Real house The Upcoming Real Housewives, Ultimate Girls Trip Roaring twentieth, which I love that name, right, Carlos the Roaring twentieth because the twentieth anniversary of the Housewives.

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Speaker 3: But everybody was there, man, I am.

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Speaker 4: I am definitely looking forward to it, and I love the fact that Candice had that. Yeah, that's Nini's alter ego. Look she was wearing Michael Costello.

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Speaker 3: I believe.

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Speaker 4: Got hell motherfucking Parish, the one and only man, the best in the game.

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Speaker 3: Look at Cynthia. Yes, yeah, it was fifty. Yes, she was.

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Speaker 1: Giselle Bryant was Oh no, Jazelle Bryant was Clark.

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Speaker 3: Okay. She looked like Karen Clark right there.

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Speaker 4: I thought she I thought it was a bomb in Gilead down there in Atlanta.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, You just okay. Jesus is a love song.

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Speaker 4: She looked like Karen Clark and shout out to the Clark the legendary Clark sisters.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, she looked like Karen Clark right there, Gazelle.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's doing Karen Clark. She here, but dustin the neck up.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. She looked like.

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Speaker 2: I think she's given a rock.

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Speaker 1: Okay, he rob is Gazelle giving Diana Ross or Karen Clark's shere.

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Speaker 4: Casey, Yes, sirs, the legendary Karen Clark. Shit, that's what she looked like for the next time. But yeah, it looks good though. I love Candace's costume misunderstood as a pageant girl.

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Speaker 3: That's brilliant. That's brilliant, and she looks great.

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Speaker 4: And what do you think that conversation between Candice and Porsche was like post traders.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Stacey Russ was there looking like Stacey Ross.

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Speaker 3: It was beautiful.

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Speaker 4: I love that red hair on her. She looks gorgeous. And you know what else, Stacey looks comfortable. Stacey looks like know it's her spot. You know what I'm saying, She's secure. Love that mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: And then we have the reunion of Kim and Nini.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 4: Kim looking like a caricature, looking like them pictures they draw at the amusement park, like Lisa Renna. They both look like them pictures they draw when you at the amusement park sitting in that stool, and they make you look exaggerated.

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Speaker 3: Ninnie looks incredible though.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: M m hm Dustin. We also.

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Speaker 3: We don't talk about it ship.

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Speaker 2: But Marlow Hampton and Mimi leeks.

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Speaker 3: Marlow looks great, Marlow was great.

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Speaker 1: Marlow was Corilla Deville the version of the movie I Love It.

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Speaker 3: Kay.

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Speaker 1: Also president was we had Charade Whitfield so but Dustin. I okay, I'm gonna tell y'all a little something, but not too much because I.

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Speaker 2: Don't want to.

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Speaker 3: You got to give him something, thank you. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I heard allegedly Candace and Ashley had a conversation.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmmm.

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Speaker 1: I heard allegedly a conversation was had between the Potomac Girls Giselle, Candace, Robin Ashley.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm. I heard Meani got emotional.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Come on and do it, do it and say.

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Speaker 2: It allow her.

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Speaker 1: I'll I'll say this, based on what I've been hearing, Atlanta did not disappoint.

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Speaker 2: Atlanta. Atlanta did not.

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Speaker 3: Disappoint who who did Porscha cut somebody? No?

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Speaker 2: No meaning? Okay, let me let me let me rephrase that.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: The the shoot, the Atlanta shoot. From what I have been hearing.

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Speaker 1: Alanta was the place to be. You know, they're they're going to Miami. They're in Miami right now. They were in oc Beverly Hills, Cow did a white party.

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Speaker 2: I heard all.

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Speaker 1: Of that baby Atlanta was Atlanta shut it down.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait.

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Speaker 4: Man, that's going to be so much much fun to watch, to see everybody back in the mix, and you know, it's just gonna be good to see. So I'm actually really excited about that. And they need to go and quit playing and going and put Ninnie in at IRV with the rest of them and stop playing, going to add her to the main cast and just let that happen, because obviously people are very excited to see her back, and it just would make sense.

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Speaker 3: We don't want just a little bit, we want a little more.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, and call Ryan Murphy, Ninie while you hot, you hot right now, baby, get on that phone. Call Ryan Murphy and get on All's Fair. We need Ninie on All Fair. In two and three, Nini was in cub Say what you want about Nini and her relationship to reality television, but there's a totally different conversation that takes place with Nini and scripted TV. Nini was incredible on Glee. She was fucking incredible on the New Normal. Incredible on the New Normal. So she needs to get re integrated into that Ryan Murphy universe. And I would love to see her playing and with NISI nashing them over on All's fair. I would love that, So welcome back, Nini.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, I mean obviously I could not agree more with you, Dustin than.

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Speaker 2: I hope that this is.

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Speaker 1: The beginning of something very special for Nini, because she deserves it. So we're looking forward to that. I'm looking forward to Ultimate Girl's Trip. I have some really great things about it. Porsche unfollowed Vicky Gomelson. Oh good, not good, good, Porsch.

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Speaker 4: I didn't like Vicky's attitude when you had that conversation with her about Wendy's legal issues and when she was talking about the insurance and stuff. I didn't like her tone when she was speaking about Wendy and the accusations and the allegations that have been made.

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Speaker 3: I didn't like that.

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Speaker 4: And that ain't the first time I've seen a sour, curdled, milk ass attitude from Vicky. So if Porscha Williams was the one to go ahead and nip that in the butt, and the unfollow represents that I can't wait to watch the show even more, I can't wait, And that's actually good practice to get VICKI back into shape because she's about to be full time over there on OC next season. She's back, Yeah, she's got. She's back, So somebody had to shake her up and let her know, like, hey, you might like, what was this, y'all?

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Speaker 3: I must have forgot.

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Speaker 4: She must have forgot, you know what I'm saying, like, let me remind you so we'll see. I hope that means she tore into Vicki's ass, so that'll be really good television.

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Speaker 2: No, I listen, Apparently i'm hearing. This is what I'm hearing. I'm hearing Portion and Gazelle.

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Speaker 3: Are on fire.

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Speaker 2: Good good, That's that's That's what I'm hearing. But what I'm also going to read you is what Porsche posted. She said, before you.

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Speaker 1: F with me, Remember, you call people to handle things. People call me to handle things. We are not the same. Don't make me call Porschcha.

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Speaker 4: Wait a minute, Porsche posted that, Carlos, because I didn't see none of that.

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Speaker 1: Said you call people to handle things. People called me to handle things. We are not the same. Don't make me call Porscha.

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Speaker 4: Yes, good job, Porsche, good job, Porscha said, ll ain't kicking me out of this castle.

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Speaker 3: It's the Housewives, Okay, said I'm Finn, show you something tonight.

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Speaker 4: Good good Porsche, good job, always doing the ward's work. Porscha been fighting for the people ever since the reckoning. When she was outside, you know what I'm saying, she told, were you talking from the curb?

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Speaker 3: What have you done? Like she'd been in the street.

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Speaker 4: I see she's still out in the street, still on, still fighting for the people.

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Speaker 3: Good job, Porsche.

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Speaker 1: Porsche is doing great television, as we all know. Speaking of Porsche, I want to get your thoughts on this. Kenya Moore, who recently appeared on her YouTube channel, she talked about the Ultimate Girls tripin she did reveal that she was not invited. Oh man, that's number one, number two. She did say that, look, she's happy that Porsche was able to be a part of it, but she's and I want to make sure I say that. She said that she said, this is not shade to Porsche. So she said, please don't make this up on me shaking Porsche. I'm not shaking Porsche. However, she said, I did think that at least and Og should have been a part of it, which is MEMI or cherree. So I want to get your thoughts on that. But before I get your thoughts on that, Dustin, let's break in your twin sister, the beautiful aries queen Ya Jordan.

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Speaker 3: Yes, hello, gentlemen, my girl.

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Speaker 6: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: One of my tracks came out to have my LinkedIn and it's on my backroom counter, so I had to try to move the part.

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Speaker 6: Like so this lists a little bit right here. Don't judge me. I'm trying to you know, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna a snowstom out here. So what's up are you? Oh?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, no, you know, we got like this much snow, but Dallas refuses to buy anything, like any salt for the roads or plows, Like they don't want to like do anything to they don't want to spend any money. So this would be a regular day in Michigan Rhode Island, Like it's really not that big of a deal. But they're like, oh my god, one inch of snow shut down the schools for the week, and it's crazy. It's really we would have track meets in this weather.

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Speaker 6: Seriously, man, let me fix Claudia.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the conversation.

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Speaker 1: We are wrapping things up as relates to the Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip.

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Speaker 2: That is filming.

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Speaker 1: We weren't getting into the fact that Kenya Moore over the week and did a video, and she did talk about how she.

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Speaker 2: Was not invited.

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Speaker 1: She also mentioned that she listened as happy for Porsche and it was no shade to Porsche. These are her words. She said, Look, but the Ultimate Girl's Trip, I felt like an og of a lanternship in invited And she said it should have.

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Speaker 2: Been Nini or Charret Claudia. What are your thoughts on that.

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Speaker 6: I think Porscha fits in for that.

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Speaker 5: She's been around long enough to do that, But I do yeah, it would have been I think the fans would have loved it to get a bigger appearance by Nini. But I think they're there at this point after all these years of her being away. I'm sure they're grateful for any you know, sightings of her in this and they're happy and I definitely think this is definitely a gateway for her to get back on.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, that makes sense.

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Speaker 5: I could see, I could see her feeling that way. But I also think, Porcha, it's not like they're putting like a like a like like a one season person like me on that they put someone that Sylvia has a very long history with the show, so it's not disrespectful picking Porsche it doesn't like. And they oh, Portia gets on all those shows like they used her multiple times over and over and over again. So I mean, I think as little they use her a lot for those things.

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Speaker 6: That's good for her.

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Speaker 5: I could see what Kenny saying too, but no, I think Porch's fine for that. She's a fun person.

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Speaker 6: Nine for our road trip.

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Speaker 2: That's of your thoughts.

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Speaker 3: I have a few thoughts.

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Speaker 4: So while it does make sense per the when you look at the who else was casted for the show as far as the main cast, they were all first season housewives from their respective cities, And so when you apply that sort of logic, what Keny saying does make sense. We've also heard, you know, it's one of those things that you hear all the time, like they don't got no storyliner, this, this, this is this, they should have had a og you know.

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Speaker 3: It's one of those things that just kind of reverberates.

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Speaker 4: Around the space or whatever, and you say, I'm the player. But anyway, oh so see, if the proof being the putting, you just gotta you just got to have a spoon, okay.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, any who, Yeah, so I'm glad to see them all there.

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Speaker 4: But sometimes, no matter what your intentions are, some things that you say, you just have to say that like your people, and you know you shouldn't bring it to the internet because y Kenya saying that people are going to end up framing that as her hating on Porsche in some sort of way. That's why she felt the need to issue that disclaimer. And I don't think she was hating. I just think she had an opinion about the casting. But of course the people are going to people and turn that into something else. So sometimes you just got to be have a little foresight and forethought when it comes to situations like that and having an opinion on shit, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: Just too she asked that in a life they asked she was just answer questions.

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Speaker 4: Maybe so, but she adn't have to read that one, you feel me, because what it did was set her up to be positioned as something that she's not.

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Speaker 3: She was not hating on Porsche.

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Speaker 4: In fact, she literally says she was happy for her, you know what I'm saying. But by choosing to answer to them question. Now, we didn't open the door to all this stupid shit that's in the way of the point she was trying to make in the first place. I'll be glad when Kenya and then resolved whatever they got going on, because the Traders need off off.

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Speaker 1: She also brought it up dust And because I wanted to add this to your senses, you can finish it too. But yeah, she did say as well dust In and Claudia that she don't think she was asked back because of illegal issues surrounding break eighties losses.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure, I stee.

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Speaker 4: We need her, We need Kenya on that. She would have been great to be in the mix with those veteran legendary housewives.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: We need her on the Traders, we need her back on Real Housewives of Atlanta. So I'll be glad when whatever that process is that is going on is finished because we need her back.

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Speaker 5: Can you be fine? On the road trip? And she's very very smart for Traded like, she's very very intelligent.

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Speaker 1: So she killed it on It's fun of because she was on the first iteration and of Ultimate Girl's Trip. It was her Teresa Kyle Cynthia Bailey. That's when her and Cynthia unfortunately had a real falling out that last or I want to stay two years.

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Speaker 2: She is great on that show. Listen.

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Speaker 1: I will always say this, if we can talk about Potomac after this, what I will say is it is still very sad, like Dustin is saying, like you're saying, Claudia, that look King Almore, who is so legendary in in the reality space, obviously Atlanta, you know, put her on the map as a reality star to see where things are is sad. I'm just gonna say it. Plain is very sad to see it. I hope things can get wrapped up, but it is very unfortunate that she couldn't be there to celebrate a mons her sisters. You know what I'm saying in reality.

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Speaker 5: I'm so distracted. I know I got in here, Lake Carls. Where you going after this?

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Speaker 6: You got your titties out, you get.

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Speaker 5: Got three buttons open, you got the gold, you are definitely what you got some.

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Speaker 6: You got a piece over.

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Speaker 5: There right now.

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Speaker 6: What you got going on?

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Speaker 5: You're definitely doing something after this show, or you came from something, you was on something and you're.

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Speaker 6: About to do. I'm like, that's a lie.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 5: I can tell all the time my reading. I can see a lot of water. I'm damn there, psychic. Okay when it comes to you, I'm so connected to you. So yeah, where are you going after this?

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Speaker 2: We're connected? Actually, I want to look good for you with us.

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Speaker 4: You answer her a question, bro, She said, where are you going after this?

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Speaker 3: That's what.

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Speaker 2: I really am.

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Speaker 5: No eye contact you, they see I was looking away.

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Speaker 4: Do you have plans after Do you have plans after this show tonight?

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Speaker 2: I don't have plans to leave my house now, but.

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Speaker 6: That don't work with us, Carlos.

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Speaker 4: Think you talking to anyway. We're just asking you to give you the room. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: But we are you go.

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Speaker 6: Let me see your watch.

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Speaker 5: You've got the diamond ring on the nice walk, the shirt that's Degner. I opened the three buttons down the nice I never seen that chain gleaming. You look very groomed, like someone's coming over tonight or you're going out. You got a hot day tonight for sure.

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Speaker 4: When you definitely had them things under your eyes before we started.

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Speaker 3: Some of them. Yeah, you look rejuvenated.

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Speaker 5: You look at his lips and moisturized. No, nothing in his teeth. He's ready to go, he flops, ready to go. I'm happy for you, friend.

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Speaker 6: I love seeing people in love, Michael. It's a beautiful thing.

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Speaker 3: Ain't a beautiful.

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Speaker 4: It's so beautiful at least like strong, like.

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Speaker 6: Like like a LUs. It's all fun and beautiful. I love it.

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Speaker 1: This is reality with the King and Carlos King. Let's get back into the show anyway. So let's get into Look, Claudia Blue was off, but she had Wi Fi issues.

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Speaker 2: I don't know where.

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Speaker 3: We felt so bad because she was trying.

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Speaker 6: We missed you, Blue, try to get on and it went it went out? What city she and the cold in?

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Speaker 7: L A?

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Speaker 1: Okay, No, the Wi Fi was blurry chot, but Blue start talking about potobic so I would.

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Speaker 5: Love it's that rescue Blue Wi Fi pager dial up, leave her alone, you know, l A last.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Blue, let me know if Angel picked you up and the pen didn't get into the right.

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Speaker 6: Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so rain Drops, let's get into the season finale, right, I'll say part one because next week we'll get into that too. But this episode, I literally Claudia and dust was watching last night and I was like, this is going to be a very interesting conversation with all of us because I feel like we all have very strong feelings watching it, and uh, listen, I want to go on Rectords say, I believe we're gonna we're all gonna have very strong opinions about this episode because this was This was.

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Speaker 2: Not her Wildfo's Mae Curial.

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Speaker 1: This was a hard episode to watch, and we're just going to get into all of the reasons why. So first thing first, rain Drops Angel Massy took the girls of Colorado. It hasn't been a successful trip by any means, right, It's just it just hasn't been. The house wasn't in order, they had no running water. She got cussed out botches Delle on the primed plane and at this point, Gizelle has decided to take the girls to the Four Seasons and that's where they were staying.

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Speaker 2: Dustin, give me your thoughts first.

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Speaker 1: On how do you feel about Thelle hijacking the trip, really having no problems telling her to her face, I'm taking over your trip and having the girls go to the Four Seasons and they're all happy. My heart bled for Angel in that moment, but dustn't What are your thoughts?

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Speaker 4: I don't know, man, I'm torn because I think it was rude the way that Giselle kind of did that. You know what I'm saying, It's not even though I think it was rude, the way she just interrupted angels Angel's position as the leader and organizer of the trip, right, somebody also had to do it because things had just gotten too damn bad. The house. The house was fucked up. Everything they did was boring. Monique was about to throw up from smelling that leather and chemo Sabi Keana was on one from the altitude, and there's just a very very clear disconnect between Angel and the group we saw in the car when they was riding and Angel just randomly was like, here's something you don't know about me. I don't like fish and then she like look Nobody responded and she kind of looked up. It actually made me sad, right, yes, it made me think about, like, I don't know, just teenagers and just things from like being younger, when when shit like that that would happen and it would be more impactful for people, you know what I'm saying, Like the social shit, and I watching her try to navigate that group. It's just way too late for some of the shit that she's doing. And I actually felt sorry for her when she said she didn't like no damn fish.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 4: It was funny when that she had went to sleep in the back of that car because she was in stage three leave okay at that point on that on she was sleeping in heavenly peace in the backseat of that suv, And that was funny. But angels just don't connect with this group. And that's just what it boils down to. And the trip was fucking poorly planned. Ain't no way in hell they gotta be at the airport at two o'clock or whatever on a Sunday and they're going.

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Speaker 3: Fucking fly fishing before.

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Speaker 4: First of all, who want to be musty and wet from them stinking ass rubber overalls and shit fish hooks, worms, meal, all that shit. Don't nobody want to have none of that juice on them. And you can't even really wash your ass right to get ready to go back to the airport. That's too much before you go into the airport. The only thing they should have done was at best went to eat, went to brunch or something somewhere close, maybe a little light shopping, and you head to the airport. It was just poorly designed and planned in general, and I think that that contributed to the failure of the trip overall.

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Speaker 3: But they still was mean to her.

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Speaker 2: Audio your thoughts and Claudia. As you give your thoughts, can you also.

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Speaker 1: Tell the rain drops you're experience hosting a cast trip when you took the Girls of the Philippines Season seven of Atlanta Housewives.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, listen, you know everything's on the line when you are in charge of a cast trip, and at this point, I'm starting to be on.

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Speaker 6: I feel Gazelle.

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Speaker 5: Honestly, you're a woman and you're in accommodations without water.

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Speaker 6: Okay, that's not something that I don't think.

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Speaker 5: I don't think Angel did that to her on purpose, But you're already irritated. Right, Let that be the worst thing that happened on the trip. Then to have constantly just dropped the ball so many times. First of all, these are women, not men. Women that are probably going through menopause, could have their periods, you know what I'm saying, Like, you're already gonna be feeling a way like that is. Let me tell you a woman that can doesn't have access to water. It's different than for a man. It is much different than for a man. There's a lot of things going on. Okay, that's number one, and I'm sorry. After that, all bets are off. I'm probably gonna be grouchy. I'm probably gonna be a bitch. I'm probably gonna be like at a place where you probably gonna get through me to me after that, like everything you say, I don't want to hear shit because my ass is itchy and I can't shit in the toilet.

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Speaker 6: I can't flush. Why can ship I can't flush? That is disgusting.

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Speaker 5: So you think these bougie rich women are gonna have be be pleasant after that?

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Speaker 6: No, they're not. Were they mean? Yes? But I understand it.

00:26:23
Speaker 5: And then it was like the favorites were in the house and the castaways over there? What did you think that we're gonna behave? Yes, she was right of getting a link back, but I just think the way she went about it was bad. Now, if you could if last week we were like more empathetic to Angel, like, well, that's probably not her fall and production has something to do with that. Yes, let's go ahead and give that to production.

00:26:44
Speaker 3: Okay.

00:26:46
Speaker 5: I think she did not do herself. She did herself a huge service by having being in this industry and thinking that this show is going to promote our business. If that's the case, that should have been the best cast trip we ever see in a life. And if she saw things going left, take production to the side. Listen, listen, this is my business, of my livelihood on the line.

00:27:08
Speaker 6: If you make me look bad.

00:27:09
Speaker 5: Like all these things are happening, I'm not going to have a business. You're ruining my livelihood because do you want to book a trip now with her? No you don't, No one will because some of the things that were out of her that were in her control planning a fly fishing trip, like Justin said on there, Oh my god, I said, Justin.

00:27:28
Speaker 6: Got on me.

00:27:29
Speaker 5: It got on me like the water did not get on me in Colorado.

00:27:32
Speaker 6: I am so I can't believe.

00:27:34
Speaker 5: No, Listen, I'm been trying to get this iron the Future for three weeks and I have no brain cells anymore. Like I'm I'm totally dumb right now. Seriously, I've been called but anyways, you know what I'm saying, Like Yo, that's like you you know, you're a comedian and we've been like telling us how great you are and that your trip is we're going to do an improv show and then you suck.

00:27:57
Speaker 6: Wait, that's the one thing you've been talking about all season? What are you talk What do you mean that?

00:28:02
Speaker 5: Like? Her planning was bad and you didn't know your way? How does the cast you don't know your way, You're two hours away from them and they have to go catch a flight. It was terrible and I but I will say this, I did see reasons for.

00:28:15
Speaker 6: Angel come back next season.

00:28:16
Speaker 5: I know we think she don't fit, but I liked how she started to push back. I mean, it was the last episode, but she finally got a little spark about her.

00:28:23
Speaker 6: But I like that. I'll take that.

00:28:24
Speaker 5: Listen and personally, I'll take that. When she was pushing back to Gisel over the e ro vibes was just killing me.

00:28:30
Speaker 6: At least. She was like, more like, you know, Tigger.

00:28:33
Speaker 7: In this one, Colia, you are really throwing.

00:28:42
Speaker 6: And so what I love how.

00:28:43
Speaker 2: You're growing it said she said that, Tigger, I love that.

00:28:47
Speaker 5: I thought that now I want to come back now because now this seems like there's definitely beef now.

00:28:51
Speaker 6: This now was like a.

00:28:52
Speaker 4: Reason I don't want to see no more beef with Angel. I don't want to see no more Angel beef. I want to see Angel thriving in her beautiful home in Colorado with better friends and happier in a happier place. I don't want to see her duking it out with these women that she if we're being honest, it's no match for when it comes to verbal sparring, when it comes to being edgy with your words. She's just not She's not that way like the rest of these women. And that's where the misalignment becomes so glaringly obvious. I don't want to see that she's going to end up being like a punching bag for another season.

00:29:32
Speaker 3: And if there are peaks and.

00:29:33
Speaker 4: Glimmers of hope as far as her defending herself and standing up for herself, they'll be just that. If you can't expect a person to change. These are fundamental things about her makeup right, and who she is as a woman, and how she shows up in situations that are high stress situations like this reality show, and it just does not seem to go with the program or make the story progress in a way that's entertaining. I think there is entertainment value there, it's just not in this format.

00:30:03
Speaker 3: That's what I think.

00:30:05
Speaker 2: Just me, yes, and I agree with you.

00:30:06
Speaker 3: Listen.

00:30:07
Speaker 1: It's interesting because Angel, I don't know if y'all know this, then I'm speaking to YouTube Claudia and Dustin. She has a background in production. Okay, Angel used to work at BET back in the DC office days.

00:30:24
Speaker 5: Whichell, you know what I'm saying like that?

00:30:30
Speaker 6: You know it was a comic view.

00:30:34
Speaker 5: Jane Like, there's a difference here, you know what I'm saying, Like.

00:30:37
Speaker 3: On Earth, Like, Okay, where did you live?

00:30:41
Speaker 6: Right? I mean, come on, let's world.

00:30:45
Speaker 2: I'm joking.

00:30:52
Speaker 4: We need a Sitters World movie, and we need ta Kemp young T to play her mom.

00:31:00
Speaker 1: She previously worked as a journalist.

00:31:04
Speaker 5: Now I'm so sick of y'all.

00:31:10
Speaker 6: I'm so sick of this.

00:31:12
Speaker 2: Absolutely, she was a journalist and a producer for B E T.

00:31:18
Speaker 1: What's and and and she was a she's a former BT host.

00:31:24
Speaker 3: That's what's up. I see potential.

00:31:27
Speaker 4: I just I just don't think this is the forum that shows her strengths off in the best way. I think that this shows her shortcomings, you know what I'm saying, because we keep seeing her in a position of failure, and I don't think that's fair to her. Now, when you're a rich black woman with a beautiful family and a lot of people that love you.

00:31:47
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

00:31:48
Speaker 4: I don't think throwing her into this mix that is clearly not suited for her, it's fair and I definitely don't think it's entertaining.

00:31:55
Speaker 5: So, yeah, associating what they said, she worked in the mailroom.

00:32:03
Speaker 2: Y'all, y'all.

00:32:11
Speaker 1: Stop, y'all are so I knew that the episode will be in same I'll say this, I.

00:32:19
Speaker 2: Agree with the both of you.

00:32:21
Speaker 1: All I thought was, Wow, how unfortunate that your business isn't getting.

00:32:27
Speaker 2: The shine that it deserves.

00:32:30
Speaker 1: Right, I'm not here to blame one of the other because I wasn't there. What I will say is this, I want to focus on the fact that even in the moment, Angel unfortunately in my opinion, did not do herself any justice by tackling the issues hit on.

00:32:54
Speaker 2: She was very laxa day'sical when it came to the fires that was happening about her. Quaudia in Dustine.

00:33:00
Speaker 1: That to me, I would have been like, fuck this TV shit my business and of the line, and as I was watching the show, and I'm gonna junk a hit a little bit, but I'm gonna bring it back for us.

00:33:11
Speaker 2: Even the only moment.

00:33:14
Speaker 1: Of regret that I saw from her this whole trip was when the girl said to her, we're not going fly fishing.

00:33:22
Speaker 2: We're gonna go to the airport.

00:33:23
Speaker 1: The trip ends here, and she had to call those two employees of hers who worked their butt saw.

00:33:30
Speaker 2: That made me really sad. You know, I'm a production boy, like, yeah, yeah, I felt bad for her team.

00:33:37
Speaker 1: The disappointment in that woman's voice, like they're not coming again. We'll get to that later, but I still have that to say. That was the only time I saw her, like have a real moment of real reaction because the other stuff the four seasons, I just thought she just was like whatever, And look the fact that she did lie, and you and I both knew Claudia and Dunton she was never gonna We all knew she was not spending the night After four seasons. I just wish she would have only said, now, I gotta know why I spent the night here.

00:34:11
Speaker 2: The fact that she said yes, and I don't care.

00:34:15
Speaker 1: If it was after one o'clock in the morning, I would have said, I have to do whatever it takes to win. These girls faked back, and tomorrow is my last night or day.

00:34:26
Speaker 2: Rather to impress them, I would have.

00:34:30
Speaker 1: Told Bobby I need give me this, or I would have done what Gizelle said, which is I would.

00:34:36
Speaker 2: Have woke up early and said I'm here.

00:34:38
Speaker 6: I would have said, you know what.

00:34:40
Speaker 5: At this point, I don't think she needs to kiss these girls asses anymore.

00:34:42
Speaker 6: I really don't. I don't think she needs.

00:34:44
Speaker 5: I don't think and I'm not saying you were saying that, but I'm like, at this point, screw impressing them. She would have every reason in the world to say scow, y'all because y'all have that mean to me?

00:34:54
Speaker 3: Right?

00:34:54
Speaker 5: Your business, though, sis, your business I care about like I hate to see like you.

00:34:59
Speaker 2: Go out with.

00:35:00
Speaker 5: Listen, we've been critical of Angel Let's we have. I've actually warmed up to the last few episodes. I kind of fell back, you know. The bullyings make me like her more like I feel bad for her, you know.

00:35:08
Speaker 3: I feel like we've been honest. We have, we have I don't think we can mean you.

00:35:16
Speaker 5: You know when you speak, they not the meter.

00:35:19
Speaker 3: So but so.

00:35:21
Speaker 5: Anyways, I uh, I would wish it was more about you know what. Okay, I'm not gonna get y'all back, but let me think big picture because this will be broadcasting two millions of people. Me make sure at least at this if this don't work out, these happens that I don't really like and they don't like me, at least I can benefit from a bump in booking, showing that I can pull it together understressful situations.

00:35:44
Speaker 4: All of that goes back to that poor planning though, right, because if you have if you're bringing these ladies onto your turf.

00:35:50
Speaker 3: Colorado is her turf.

00:35:51
Speaker 4: That's why Giselle flippantly said, you're supposed to be Miss Colorado. Always had me rolling, but because that was so mean, But Colorado is essentially Angel is essentially Angels turf. The whole trip planning should have been focused and seen through the lens of Wonderland Outfitters or Wonderland whatever her company is called. The entire trip should have been planned through the lens of her company, creating this really lux experience that she know didn't go too far. They do not want to go fly fishing on the morning before they have a flight. That just wasn't a smart choice.

00:36:26
Speaker 3: You should have.

00:36:26
Speaker 4: Made different decisions as far as the itinerary, all that other shit, that's what needed to happen.

00:36:32
Speaker 3: So it just was poor planning.

00:36:34
Speaker 4: And then the shit that they did do was while you got them going to a fucking lake you ain't never been to before that you don't even know how to get to. And you have access to lakes that you have a relationship with where you normally take people fly fishing, to the Naked Eye, to the Potomac Eye. All that shit in the mountains and trees and shit in Colorado, all them lakes look the fucking same.

00:36:53
Speaker 3: So it wouldn't matter which one you went to.

00:36:55
Speaker 4: You could have went to the one that you knew it was the lay of the land on if you felt they had to do that.

00:37:00
Speaker 3: They had eaten.

00:37:01
Speaker 4: Outside enough every time Angel creates a situation for them the outside at a fucking picnic table, you know what I'm saying, Enough creating experience that they'll enjoy that that it's safe and less detailed when it when it comes to the planning. You know what I'm saying, like, just take them to a restaurant. That's what they want to do.

00:37:23
Speaker 2: I say, you see what age want, use the map quest go ahead.

00:37:27
Speaker 5: You see when they were her team was cooking in the woods, so production cameras could get to where a team is. But Angel camp, which is crazy, and.

00:37:35
Speaker 2: I was gonna say that, thank you.

00:37:36
Speaker 1: So I was gonna say this, speaking as production, I will say this.

00:37:40
Speaker 2: I will say this. I will say this. Angel's trip is Colorado. It's it's that's perfect.

00:37:53
Speaker 7: It was clown.

00:37:53
Speaker 6: They said, you got my Wi Fi issues?

00:37:55
Speaker 7: You don't understand. I cussed out everybody who embarrass me and all the Yeah, they got cuts back because I paid my bills.

00:38:10
Speaker 2: Well, friend, so Blue, I want to get your thoughts. We were starting up.

00:38:16
Speaker 1: We're talking about the start of Potomac where Gazelle took the girls of the four seasons. At this point, Gizelle took over the trip. Angel decided to not spend the night, although she lied and said she would. And we're not the point now where we're saying, look Blue. At the end of the day, e FIE's girls meeting, meaning that's what Angel should have had in her mind, I have to salvage the reputation of my business. So talk to us about your thoughts in terms of where things landed up until the point.

00:38:54
Speaker 2: Where they are now.

00:38:57
Speaker 1: On their way to fly fishing and Angel can't fire her way there.

00:39:03
Speaker 7: Let me tell you something in the sim in three d Okay, I'm an avatar now, I think Stacy these Stacy summed it up best on Watch What Happens Live when she said Angel fumbled an epic bag because had Angel had a spectacular experience and been well vetted, we would have all ate curl like damn, you know what. I don't even like her like that, but that looks like a vibe.

00:39:26
Speaker 2: Yeah.

00:39:27
Speaker 7: The fact that you're trying out a new spot that you've never been to when mistakes are this high, that's like trying out a new hairdresser on your wedding day.

00:39:35
Speaker 6: Crazy crazy. You would never do that. You would do a run through first, right, you would do a run through.

00:39:43
Speaker 7: So I'm already I'm already shady on her discernment. Angel, Your discernment.

00:39:47
Speaker 2: Is off, baby.

00:39:48
Speaker 7: This is not about you getting lost in the woods with the musty trees, and it's not about that. Although you do deserve to, you know, maybe talk to your employees, because them poor people were fighting for them lives, making them ribs in the woods.

00:40:00
Speaker 5: Robed in the ash. So maybe they didn't make it there.

00:40:04
Speaker 3: They was probably happy they have to deal with them fucking people.

00:40:07
Speaker 4: They they could. They probably sat down and probably was like, what ship you want?

00:40:12
Speaker 3: You want? How you want, George? Could they sit down and ate the rest of them steaks and the ship? They ate the ship?

00:40:18
Speaker 5: They wiped a little charcoal off the steaks because they dropped it in the choco.

00:40:21
Speaker 3: Yeah, he dropped in charcoal for his life.

00:40:25
Speaker 7: She was like she wanted to put her hair up.

00:40:27
Speaker 2: Everything.

00:40:27
Speaker 7: I could smell the episode. It was funky, Angel, your whole operation is funky. I came back just to say that I could smell it. Anyways. I hate to say, Angel, but you had me citing with Giaseelle. I don't think I've ever really have to do that in my life. For one, Gazelle saved today, Save today, and also to the Four Seasons. Shout out to them, because I would have rather been at the Four Seasons, which is selling them than whatever. And Tia, Tia, Tia, you did all that, and she still didn't.

00:40:59
Speaker 3: Buy a house. You got a do to to have.

00:41:03
Speaker 4: Y'all noticed that she always be talking about I've got to go to the new and she's a bit bubble like.

00:41:10
Speaker 3: She was talking about.

00:41:12
Speaker 4: You need a probiotic and I don't know what's going on, man, but Tiya, she always got a ship and she's always talking about it.

00:41:19
Speaker 3: That's some brittish.

00:41:19
Speaker 6: Ship, I think because the food.

00:41:22
Speaker 3: Have you been?

00:41:23
Speaker 6: Y'all been to London?

00:41:25
Speaker 5: Sold It's like you can't find a season of Savior life unless.

00:41:28
Speaker 6: You get Jamaican or Indian food over there. I think been in America.

00:41:32
Speaker 5: She's not all the way acclimated to seasons, and that's why she got a ship.

00:41:35
Speaker 3: Every time running right, ain't a river runs through it.

00:41:38
Speaker 7: Claudia, I know that car smelled. I know that car smelled. I know they were farting. I know they were stressed, Angel stressed. The whole thing was just so croaked wig to me, I took a shower after watching that episode.

00:41:53
Speaker 2: I just feel dirty.

00:41:55
Speaker 6: Yeah, why fishing?

00:41:58
Speaker 5: Fly?

00:41:58
Speaker 6: Fishing with them?

00:41:59
Speaker 2: I okay?

00:42:01
Speaker 6: And you don't like fish, you don't.

00:42:04
Speaker 4: Like fishs It just didn't make sense, and she deserves so much better. I at least I like to think, right, I would think that this company that's so important to her being highlighted on a platform as big as The Real Housewives of Potomac.

00:42:22
Speaker 3: Would be important. Right.

00:42:25
Speaker 4: So to me, everything they should have had on Wonderland jackets. Everything should have been laid the funk out and branded like. It should have been a Wonderland focused experience, the best of the best things that are fun, small spurs. These are not outdoorsy, you know, women like that. They would rather be in a luxurious environment. Hook it up and make it make us want to go out to Colorado, you know what I actually.

00:42:50
Speaker 2: I actually agree with that.

00:42:50
Speaker 1: But the thing is that the reason why this episode two things can be true.

00:42:56
Speaker 2: I still feel bad for Angel.

00:42:58
Speaker 1: I tell you why league at the end, but I have to hold Angel's hands.

00:43:05
Speaker 2: When I say this.

00:43:08
Speaker 1: You to Dusin's point, there were no Wonderland paraphernalia. There were you know how like you go on a girls trip, there's gift bags, you know what I mean? Like, there were no give backs with Wanda Land on them, right, even team with the Aprons, they have their names on it.

00:43:24
Speaker 7: A road she all had robes clearly stated didn't have a name on hers hen just.

00:43:29
Speaker 2: Still how to rod.

00:43:29
Speaker 7: But she didn't got none to settle.

00:43:31
Speaker 1: And then on top of that, we have to remind ourselves, guys, she actually went home to Colorado a few weeks before the trip because her house wasn't available anymore, so she had enough time to curate this experience. And yes, I understand, because I'm gonna give her grace on this part. I understand the element of television. That's why I want to bring Claudia in the conversation. When she hosted the Philippines trip and I was there, it is it is a collaborative effort. However, QuAIA ain't from the Philippines.

00:44:07
Speaker 2: Kladia.

00:44:10
Speaker 5: That trip was popping. We had fun and everyone got along. We were like at the end of it, they was like resolved ended that trip.

00:44:17
Speaker 6: Everybody's filthy. They've aggravated.

00:44:19
Speaker 5: They eating gas station food pizzas, which they said it was good. Like that's how your trip went out with the girls eating at a gas station. When you've had this, I don't believe this for one second. Ten thousand dollars dinner arranged out in the woods.

00:44:33
Speaker 7: I cooked for nothing, ten thousand dollars, Okay, nothing in that dollars.

00:44:41
Speaker 3: You cook for what you saidok, for a.

00:44:42
Speaker 6: Lot of people all the time. Okay, I ain't never spent one thousand dollars on food. I'd be cooking.

00:44:47
Speaker 5: Crab legs, lasagnas, cop roAP greedy clams with the white wine sauce.

00:44:57
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I know, I should have had some.

00:44:59
Speaker 5: I cooked like a I have a kid and like I could have a husband, like four kids.

00:45:03
Speaker 7: If you have a big elbows with from what I'm hearing, I love it, Like I'm going.

00:45:06
Speaker 6: To get the arm because I feel like that's a compliment because.

00:45:09
Speaker 7: No big elbow cooking is a compliment, Yes, bibow, and I can't cook for ship, so.

00:45:14
Speaker 5: I almost thinking you a couple of recipes and you're easy, easy, easy easy.

00:45:17
Speaker 6: And I clean as I go.

00:45:18
Speaker 5: So yes, And I want to say this one thing, angel I remember when we first talked about, you know, the upcoming cast and I we were talking about what her job title was and I didn't know what it was. Well, I said like an upscale and outdoor tour guide and she came home She's like, it is not in it. She was kind of trying to read me down a little bit. So I was like, oh, I said, my bad. I apologize. That's so it's like an upscale outdoor excursion. I wish you would have shut me up because now I feel communicated.

00:45:44
Speaker 7: I feel like she feel like Martin, you know.

00:45:49
Speaker 5: Like girl, I wanted you to shut us up so bad, so we could have been like, man, we was wrong.

00:45:53
Speaker 6: She did that. We wanted to go like this FIA trip instead of this FIA trip.

00:45:59
Speaker 1: You know, I love a big elbow, so I want to I want to get off Angel for a bit because we got to talk about the end. One of the things that happens episode that was in the eyes of social media, almost as big as Angels loss of finding the location was a car ride between Stacy Jazzy and doctor Wendy So Claudia Blue and Dustin. Stacy Jazzy and Wendy on the car and the next thing you know, Stacy is in the hot seat. They get into an argument because Stacy is not happy with Jazzy for befriending Charise by taking her phone number. And she said, because Charis said things about me, and even after she said it, you still decided to pretty much be friends with herr Jazzy said, her defense.

00:47:04
Speaker 2: She always tries to defend Stacy for lying.

00:47:08
Speaker 1: And that she wouldn't have any friends or if she could not get to know anybody that Stacy doesn't like. Okay, and that's when Wendy dropped the bomb and tells Stacy that if she expects loyalty, she has to give it. Based on the fact that Wendy at Stacey Stacy if it was her intention to go to her wedding before she found out that Ashley and Wendy were coming.

00:47:36
Speaker 2: She said no.

00:47:37
Speaker 1: The shady ether flashback to where she found out Ashley was coming once again, Stacy be lying, I love you, Stacy, you got caught in a lie. Claudia, what were your thoughts from the fact that at this point Wendy went to town on Stacy used.

00:47:54
Speaker 2: A bunch of f bombs, and all of this happened in the car.

00:47:58
Speaker 1: We'll get to what happened at the picnic table of the gas station show, But in the car.

00:48:02
Speaker 2: Do you feel like.

00:48:03
Speaker 1: Doctor Wendy was out of line for the way she spoke to.

00:48:07
Speaker 5: Nope, Because when someone lies to your face and like talk to you like you stupid, I would have the same reaction. I gotta say this to you, Wendy. Highlight of the season to me, I thought that car scene was epic and the ending was epic, and I was like, Okay, Wendy, like you know, the whole season, she was kind of demure, she was a little bit of popping off. She popped off and she kind of like, you know, she kind of got a little straight in her voice in that one. I liked it, like I like people holding each other accountable to their face. And I liked it because it's it's frustrating. You already know when're go on a reality show, there's gonna be a lot of people lying, fronting, posturing, tending to be something that they're not. So I you know, and you've been on the show a couple of years, that shit is very aggravating. So yeah, I like that she like, you know, no, I like that she did it in her face.

00:48:53
Speaker 6: Real time, handled it, and you know, yeah, she's like, I've been a good friend to you.

00:48:57
Speaker 5: I defended you, which is true, And Stacy, you got to learn how to have conflict with someone without like, you know, if you have one thing that goes wrong in a friendship, you don't blow up the whole friendship because of that one thing, you have to talk with them, because Wendy did. Really when they did the flashbacks, it really showed that Wendy was having her back, and that's what we was every week talking about Stacy's breath.

00:49:16
Speaker 6: Nobody was walking with her.

00:49:17
Speaker 5: At that time, and Wendy was the one that turned the tide for people to start like liking Stacy like that.

00:49:23
Speaker 6: It wasn't sat.

00:49:24
Speaker 5: It was Stacey leaning into who she was, but it was also Wendy giving her a coat sign.

00:49:28
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, Dastan, yeah, I'm with Claudia on this. I think that Wendy has shown up as a great friend to Stacy amongst the sea of women who were taking jabs and just making it difficult for her to exist on this show, and that was refreshing to see. We always love to see the real bonds that form amongst the cast members, right, and Stacey did Wendy did.

00:49:53
Speaker 3: Hold her accountable or whatever.

00:49:54
Speaker 4: I don't want nobody talking to me like that, you know what I'm saying, But you know, Wendy did hold her accountable, you know, And it was good to see because ultimately it was received because Stacey knew that Wendy had good intentions when he wasn't trying to embarrass Stacey, she wasn't trying to hold her or punk her in anyway.

00:50:13
Speaker 3: She just was.

00:50:13
Speaker 4: They were having a passionate conversation where they were spirited, and that was good because it was real. We could tell that was real, and it was great to see. I'm glad that Wendy. I think that we're going to see Wendy benefit next season from having a true friend on the cast and a true ally because next season, obviously there'll be a large focus on Wendy's legal, you know, situation, and I think that we'll really get to see Stacy have Wendy's back next season in that same way, and that'll be good to see.

00:50:45
Speaker 3: So, you know, it was great.

00:50:47
Speaker 6: Wendy's face was she laughed, She's like, we do it now. God, it was funny.

00:50:52
Speaker 4: But didn't y'all feel like Jazz like I love Jazzy on this cast make I've been clear about that from day one. I did feel like this was a bit of a reach because so what if she wasn't going until or whatever the fuck she came, who kives a fuck, like she's your friend not coming with no, oh my god, you didn't come to my like, well, no being a guy right now.

00:51:16
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I think there's and I'm gonna get to YouTube.

00:51:20
Speaker 2: Blue. I think this vote, Dustin.

00:51:23
Speaker 1: I think she fuss because because Stacy checked her for befriending Sharise. Yeah, and I think that's when JAZZI said and Stacey I was surprised that Stacey was visibly upset by that. So I think Jazz was like, look, bitch, I already know you didn't you came to my wedding because you were encouraged to buy Wendy Because I think Jazzy really did feel like her and Stacey was closed because remember last season, Dustin, I'm me, I miss you when Jazz and Stacey went to Miami for a birthday and me pull the Angel and got lost in translation on the boat child and they didn't see her.

00:52:09
Speaker 2: So I think they bonded then, So I think they had a friendship. But Blue Blue, do you think Wendy overreacted? Was she justified for her tongue? It was a tongue lash, ye, it was.

00:52:21
Speaker 7: I don't First of all, I don't think Wendy overreacted because we have to think about it. Wendy's always been a good friend, but it's rare that we see her have a good friend. Look what happened with her and Karen, same thing that happened with Stacy. Everybody's coming after you. I constantly have your back, and then I find out that you're being a little shady towards me, even though I've been a writer, died for you. So I do think there's some pain with Wendy that she's been trying to have genuine friendships this entire time. She tried it with Karen that blew up in her face. Now she's talking to Stacy. I will say this the part that made me cackle. She's like, Stacy, I know you're crazy. I know you lie, but you can't do that to me. I thought we understood you to get to these other bitches. I know you were lying as bitch to them, but I'm your real friend.

00:53:00
Speaker 5: Like when she said that, I was like, wait, we're not gonna react, and given.

00:53:06
Speaker 7: Like everybody understands Stacy's nuts, but she got these two real friends in the corner. So I thought that was crazy that she was like, no, I know you're lying. I know you're always lying, but not with me. And I do believe that when you have a crazy friend, you're like, now a friend, you know, I'm the one person that you can't bite, right, So, and I think Stacey's a little feroh sometimes. And so she was like, oh, you're right, you're right, You're right. You're the safe one. You're the safe one. I will throw Stacey some veil though, and saying when you do lie a little bit to your co workers because you don't want me really with them like that, you sometimes get mad on principle more than morality. And I think her principle I speak Stacy, is I told you this lady called me a hole from the nineties and was talking foul about me at this function, and you try to acquire her as a new friend after the fact. That feel that might feel a way to Stacy, who feels like she's constantly being ganged up on, Like why are you trying to become a new friend to somebody who's already done me? Y'all didn't have a pre existing relationship, so that I actually understood. I do think Jazzy sometimes is auditioning for Telenovella. It's kind of little it's all very a lot every time she gets upset. So when she's upset for a good reason, I'm like, oh, this is a real one.

00:54:16
Speaker 2: Okay.

00:54:17
Speaker 7: So I think it was a little bit, you know, Ricky Ricardo a little lucy, but I like her for.

00:54:22
Speaker 2: Being big like that.

00:54:23
Speaker 7: I miss Candade and I do think too though, that Stacey and Wendy's argument is probably why they're so close, because I will say this, the first time you piss somebody the f off and they show how much they love you and you are getting on their good nerve, you're like, oh my god, you care. And I think Stacey looked into Wendy's eyes and she was like, oh, you're right, you're the one I do tell the truth.

00:54:43
Speaker 2: To my bad friend.

00:54:44
Speaker 7: I was doing that crazy shit that belongs to the other bitch is my bad friend. And watching them come together, I think they are going to be the dumba Luise of next season. As all this funny from the outside, I would love to see it.

00:54:53
Speaker 6: I love that they got back on track.

00:54:55
Speaker 5: I will say this with Stacy and the chery saying she does have a point. If you heard someone call me your home saying that's promiscus and that's a new friend and you decide to like exchange numbers. I probably I'm taking you a side of that.

00:55:09
Speaker 6: What the fuck you doing? What you know this girl is talking about me?

00:55:11
Speaker 5: Why are you giving her your number? Why you exchange numbers with the ops I she had? She definitely had a point with that for sure.

00:55:18
Speaker 2: When when you.

00:55:19
Speaker 1: When you all heard Giselle talk about the relationship she has with her mother, how she only speaks to her mother once a week and they're not as close as she was with her dad, Dustin, did it shed shed some light on who Giselle shows up as a woman on this show, as a friend on the show, because you know, look, let's let's let's call the elephant in the room.

00:55:53
Speaker 2: A lot of people think Giselle's a mean girl who hates people like she isn't another sorority.

00:56:00
Speaker 1: And when you hear about the relationship that she has with her mother, did it.

00:56:05
Speaker 2: Give you.

00:56:07
Speaker 4: Know, there's just a light on like who she is for sure and for me personally, it shed a lot of light on how she is as a mom. Gazelle is although she has a bit of a distance it seems between her and her mother. When it comes to their closeness or lack thereof. She's extremely close an adulting mother to her daughters, and I think that that's why it's so important for her to be that way with her daughters. That's why she got mad and lied a couple of seasons ago. It was that season six reunion when Gazelle sat up there and lied and said, Wendy rolled her eyes at her daughter when she walked past, and it really made her so upset, you know what I'm saying. But that was indicative of how she mothers. And I think that that's because what she's great at.

00:56:49
Speaker 3: Right.

00:56:49
Speaker 4: I obviously know Gizelle don't give a fuck about nothing in this world, but she give a fuck about them daughters, and so I think that's why it's so important. As far as her social engagement with the women, that's more of a zel thing. I think that her mama's relationship with her is just what it is. But Gizelle is a mean girl to these women in the cast. It's very entertaining and that's why we love her on this show. But it is what it is, you know what I'm saying. She does hate these women. She does talk to people like they're crazy, and I think a lot of that is rooted from her being a first lady before too. There's a churchy messiness to her antics sometimes that I think is reflective of years of boot camp in practice in being disruptive to social harmony. I put it like that, so that that's what I think.

00:57:37
Speaker 2: That that was good.

00:57:42
Speaker 3: Blue.

00:57:44
Speaker 1: Do you think Gizelle's personality has a lot to do with the relationship she has with her mother?

00:57:53
Speaker 7: Yeah? Absolutely. I agree with all of Dustin's sentiments about how a lot of times when you don't get something from your mother, you're completely devoted to being that thing if you have a child yourself. I can totally see that in her. I also do think though, that the thing that she gets from her mom and from being the first lady of the church is you have to earn respect the church boot camp. Anybody who's been to the Army or Sunday service will tell you you get the respect that you earn. There's a little bit of internalized misogyny in that, right, because you know that they are church people who if you act like a whore, they treat you like a whore, and if you act like a lady, they treat you like a lady, Giselle. If you act like you have confidence and you bite back, she might be your friend. In two seasons, right took her and Wendy look at her at Stacey and behold right. But if she thinks that you're punk, she gonna treat you like one. And so I think she acts like somebody who's in the cell block, and you have to earn your stripes with her, and the Angel hasn't earned stripes with anybody, unfortunately. And I do think though that there's a distaste in the collective's mouth that they're taking it the lightest on Sacy because Hazey is hazey, but Stacy's been walked on eggshells, and they're like, we are being the lightest with you, and you are crum the hardest. We extra think that you weak.

00:59:04
Speaker 1: Claudia, do you think Gizelle suffers from pretty privilege and that also is some of the reasons why people consider her to be a mean girl who looks at these women as a hazing sorority?

00:59:17
Speaker 2: And what are your thoughts on her relationship with her mother.

00:59:20
Speaker 5: I think when people grow up the entire lives being told they're pretty from when they're a little girl.

00:59:26
Speaker 6: We didn't have that in our family.

00:59:27
Speaker 5: By the way, I think that some people think they can like punk you and play with you. So sometimes you have to overcorrect and be extra extra aggressive and extra sometimes bitchy and sometimes mean because you like they like how they look at like light skin men. Oh he a punk, he's probably weak. Oh you act in light skin. I think there's a similar thing with like pretty girls. Sometimes sometimes they overcorrect, and I think that's what she did. And then when she got a reaction on Housewives, listen when she's mean, what we do talk about her, get attention, keep book secure for more seasons. She's the ship, she's the pots there, and that works on reality TV. It's the same thing Kenny Moore, did you know what I mean? Oh, she's I know her to be nice, but when she got on that show like she's I mean, you know, she did things and likestir the pot.

01:00:12
Speaker 6: Like it made the shit entertaining.

01:00:14
Speaker 5: And you know, TV these reality shows will make you kind of like change up a little bit. Like I don't believe for one second that everyone is on TV like they are in real life all the way.

01:00:25
Speaker 2: I really don't.

01:00:26
Speaker 6: I really don't like you can't. How can you not?

01:00:28
Speaker 5: You look at the comments, you make adjustments, you want to get the first seat, You adjust things that you would probably you're yourself on steroids, so yeah, probably you know you ain't about to play with me and punk me and think you're gonna do this that and the third and when you're themed a pretty girl, you know you.

01:00:44
Speaker 6: Yeah, of course it's some pretty privilege here.

01:00:46
Speaker 5: She probably do like looked down or notes sometimes like y'all can't see me.

01:00:49
Speaker 6: Of course, of course that's there.

01:00:51
Speaker 5: And as far as I relates to with her mom talking to her mom once a week, I don't know. Probably there's some distance there, and then that's why she's supermom. A lot of parents, you know, we all see that you can go one of two ways, repeat the cycle of your parent, or be you know, overcurved, not over correct, but fill in all the gap that you didn't have when you was a kid. So whatever a mom did, it worked out for her kids, So I'm happy about that.

01:01:14
Speaker 1: One of the other things that happened in the other vehicle that had Giselle Ashley and Monique is Ashley rebuilt to Monique as she did run until her ex husband Chris and Okay belostarer too the body language shifted my laptop, Okay. Ashley told Monique that she happened to run into to Chris.

01:01:39
Speaker 2: She said, I thought tweet the story.

01:01:42
Speaker 1: Ashley said that she did ask Chris if he was dating Stacy. She said that Chris took a bottle sifted and like, you know, rolled his eyes a little bit as if it could have been one of the other Monique. Monique looked disgusted by it, and it was like, you know, that's just Chris. She doesn't believe they're dating. She believes Chris is being immature about the response.

01:02:07
Speaker 2: But Blue, what are your thoughts on that?

01:02:10
Speaker 1: Ashley not telling her about this when it happened weeks ago, but telling her then.

01:02:16
Speaker 2: And do you think Chris and Stacy were ever actually dating?

01:02:21
Speaker 3: No?

01:02:22
Speaker 7: First of all, I saw that Sarah talking about him. Okay, you got money Blue.

01:02:32
Speaker 5: Before you came on. He's got something planning because look how he's dressed and.

01:02:39
Speaker 6: Date Blue. Look at it, Julie. Can we see her?

01:02:41
Speaker 5: Julie, your hands both hands call us please no, no, on the pink on the ring, finger on the point of finger for.

01:02:49
Speaker 6: You guys, Titty hanging out like he's got I.

01:02:52
Speaker 2: Saw ariola and some gold.

01:02:55
Speaker 7: That's flying. So I was distracted by the Sarah Toogan and Titty me the question. Yes, ash she's a barnacle. That's that's actually is a barnacle. She is a bottom, She's a bottom feeder. You know, they just they just they just stick to the bottom of the bucket. Uh, scavenger. She'll just take little pieces of mess and wait, like little little pellots of doodo and just sprinkle on things so that she could be relevant for five minutes. So I think Ashley is questionable, and I don't believe for one second that she just forgot to tell everybody that she was kicking it with Chris. And by the way, she's the one who, first of all, let's rewind, I'm about to pull a dustin where my memory does a little thing in a file foule. When they were at that dinner where Stacey said, I'm not sitting with K and M. I'm only sitting with Monique, right, and they were talking about why is Chris hitting up? Hitting me up? Saying I heard you were talking about me. As she was at that table pretending that she had no idea where he had heard it from. But now you fast forward to the core and suddenly she said, oh yeah, who told him? Yeah, he was hanging out with me and the kids. You know, he was helping me change a tire and I happened to say, you smash the stick. Ashley Darby is such a harbinger of chaos. I would not leave it with my husband, my son, or my purse. It is questionable when she is in the room, I would say to her and her forehead, I got a big one to whatever. And I alsoly think that even g Zelle was stunned by how messy Ashy was. I was like, wait, this entire time, I thought y'all had this basic ass conversation. So Monie's been fighting for her life in the dark, not knowing the basics. And now she was like, oh yeah, my bad as she's nasty work. Bro, she's nasty work. That's my opinion, Claudia.

01:04:39
Speaker 5: She show waited a long time to drop that tea. I would think that's something she would immediately called her best friend Gizelle in the last her like, come on, like, let's be very clear. When you get something like that, you've hitting up your girl.

01:04:53
Speaker 6: On the show, Cynthia.

01:04:54
Speaker 5: Guess what I found out, yo, Kenya, this is what we're gonna do. Like, come on, there's no way, there's no way, there's no way they're lying about not knowing or she tried to hoolelessen. I don't see how you hold on something like that for so long and like wait.

01:05:09
Speaker 6: To drop it. But I know what I do think she's doing. She's being a reality star. Yeah, being a reality star.

01:05:14
Speaker 5: Of course, in real life you smacked the show your friend for doing that, But in a reality show, you're like, ooh, that's sc rating. That's great, that's now we want to know what's gonna happen to the reunion. It's reality TV again. Their their personalities on steroids, and that is a moment. You would never accept that in your real life and your real life friend circle like we when you know ta on something like and we cool, you better tell me immediately like you're supposed to. And there's actually a real fear in your heart when you have a real friend circle, like I better tell us so she don't hear from somebody else exactly, because especially with female friendships.

01:05:48
Speaker 1: Well to your point, I think to your point, that's why a lot of people and all of us are on Wendy side.

01:05:54
Speaker 2: When she did speak to Stacy.

01:05:55
Speaker 1: Although some people thought, you know, Wendy ain't ain't a friend to all by I think to your point, if that's your real friend, you will have that big.

01:06:04
Speaker 2: Of a reaction if you felt like they're playing you.

01:06:06
Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah.

01:06:07
Speaker 1: I was surprised by Monique's response because Ashley allegedly, you know, claim she she thought she told her.

01:06:15
Speaker 2: I don't think she did either, But Dustin.

01:06:20
Speaker 3: What do you think, actually ain't ship? You know what I'm saying.

01:06:25
Speaker 4: She sat there and lied her ass off, and you know what, Claudia, you're right. And she actually did tell Giselle because remember they cut to Gazel's interview scene and she was like, I thought, actually been told Monique that. So they did have that conversation you were talking about, you're onto something with that, And I just think that even the way that actually I can't stand there when people know they're doing some bullshit and then they try that they had that that that smile on their face while they doing it. I thought, I told you that that kind of shit that that you know, we all got our triggers. That kind of shit pisces me off. So when I was watching that scene, I was like, if Monique, no, I know she on her healing journey to hit her. She got rocks in the window and all that. Now I know. My thing is sometimes you got to go back to that barnyard Monique that was standing at that winery, you know what I'm saying, and did what she had to do real quick. And sometimes you have to bring that spirit into the situation. And that is your ex husband, that's the father of their children. That's a conversation that the person who brought you back into this group quote unquote should have had with you. You know what I'm saying to let you know what was up. That's not something you forget. That wasn't no detail that she just overlooked or forgot to say something about that was intentional. That was an intentional omission, you know what I'm saying, of some pertinent information.

01:07:48
Speaker 3: And that was fucked up.

01:07:49
Speaker 4: And I hated that she had that same mister Burne's ass look on her face from The Simpsons when she was talking about fucking.

01:07:55
Speaker 3: On Sharissa's son, saying I did not tell doing all of that ship. You know what, I mischievous, you know.

01:08:05
Speaker 4: What I'm saying, exactly what she looks like doing all of that, You know what I'm saying, Like that kind of when you're talking about some seedy, fucked up ship. You know what I'm saying, you have that mischievous looking in your eyes. It just makes you look like the ultimate creep. And so I don't know. And then in them confessionals talking about fucking in tubs and just all that, it just feels forced. It doesn't natural. I don't believe you just are naturally, you know what I'm saying. It just feels forced. Like she's trying to make that her theme this season, and it's just not entertaining for me.

01:08:41
Speaker 5: It's it's like a lazy thing to do, to be like the overly sexual girl.

01:08:48
Speaker 7: Right by the way, yeah yeah.

01:08:52
Speaker 5: And also I think she's making up for once she married to the old white guy.

01:08:55
Speaker 7: Yeah oh yeah. Now and then things that's high talk.

01:09:01
Speaker 5: Now all of a sudden, she's this overly sexual sex kitt and then we're like, I'm like, that's like all the girls that go around talk about how good the pussy is all the time.

01:09:09
Speaker 6: I'm always like you know, I'm not saying to ask is bad.

01:09:14
Speaker 5: I have no idea being the overly sexy girl, you know, because when you're sexy, you just are.

01:09:21
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Blue dry post energy.

01:09:23
Speaker 7: We've talked about this last week, and we know dry Perst energy when we see it on this show.

01:09:28
Speaker 5: Now, it's probably wet for the youngster the sun. Then that's the problem, you know what I mean? Like, well, well that's Peter Bear energy.

01:09:36
Speaker 7: You know what, Actually start over, actually just start over.

01:09:43
Speaker 2: Well we all learned in this car ride. Let me start with dust.

01:09:52
Speaker 1: You know.

01:09:52
Speaker 5: Can we talk about our good pussy for one second?

01:10:00
Speaker 6: I want us to have great.

01:10:03
Speaker 2: Talking about life.

01:10:06
Speaker 5: Because he got a date coming through tonight. We can't like it's it's only half.

01:10:10
Speaker 7: You're not giving drive fus, Carlos. I'll tell you that much.

01:10:12
Speaker 2: Not at all dusted.

01:10:16
Speaker 6: He's given a hard time.

01:10:18
Speaker 2: So with that big said, look, he's.

01:10:22
Speaker 5: Probably there right now on the couch waiting naked. We harpe and wrap that goddamn recap show up, dick out.

01:10:29
Speaker 6: I'm ready to go. Let's go.

01:10:32
Speaker 7: Smell good in the house. I can tell he got you.

01:10:34
Speaker 5: Know, you got candles going and he probably got some of those essential oils going.

01:10:38
Speaker 4: Lavender not for lazy moms, not for lazy moms. And on ye home he said, what was windy ship?

01:10:47
Speaker 1: On ye?

01:10:52
Speaker 6: He know made the bed up and everything he got.

01:10:56
Speaker 2: Dust the wrong? What did you think about? Yeah?

01:11:02
Speaker 1: They Monique Gizell Ashley kind of put two and two together by saying, Hmmm, the mystery is who went back and told Chris what we're talking about and seen they all said.

01:11:16
Speaker 2: It with Stacey. Stacey has denied it. They then realized that.

01:11:22
Speaker 1: Angel's husband, Bobby and Chris our friends, and Week was reminded that.

01:11:28
Speaker 2: She actually shipped like a package to Angel and Bobby.

01:11:33
Speaker 1: So they were like, oh wait a second. That means Bobby and Chris still have a relationship. So could Angel have been the one to go back and tell Chris what was said in the scene? Dustin, do you think it was Angel or Stacey that went back and told Chris?

01:11:49
Speaker 4: It was probably I don't think Angel went back and told Chris. I think Angel talked to her husband, and I think that he might have said something to him. That's what I think. I don't think Stacey is, you know, walking around in a trench coat and sunglasses and a for doora sneaking around to have conversations in back alleys. You know what I'm saying with Chris fucking Samuel's like, I just don't think she's going at of an effort. But it is plausible, right that Bobby would have had them conversations. And Angel when they asked her about it, you know, she's gonna of course, I said something to Bobby. He's my husband and we're having personal conversations, and just like her, and then and then the shady producers held the frame for two seconds too long after she fins, we're gonna talk about it. Yeah, I do like when they that's what happened, That's what happened, So.

01:12:45
Speaker 3: That that that seems reasonable.

01:12:47
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying to me that for the information that have taken that journey toward Chris.

01:12:54
Speaker 3: Making no better.

01:12:56
Speaker 7: We had said that maybe the reason why Monique felt so fromamiliar with Angel was because their husbands were. Yeah, so it seems like whenever there's a weirdness between the four of them, it's the husbands sometimes chatty, but you know, as a man, and so I just need chatty. The boys be chatty, So I do think it'd be funny if the whole time we got housepots fighting, it's two NFL players who are actually the girls in the back, fueling all this.

01:13:24
Speaker 4: Trauma, laughing at it, laughing about it, and busting the egg on each other's foe heads like the color you had mine, laughing and ship like just beating their chest.

01:13:34
Speaker 3: That's what happens sometimes, So that makes more sense to me.

01:13:38
Speaker 6: I agree with both of y'all. I think it's the I think a man did this.

01:13:43
Speaker 5: Either it was I'm saying it was either Bobby running it back to his boy or you already know Chris Samuels is messy.

01:13:52
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think he may have, Like maybe he.

01:13:55
Speaker 5: Even he couldn't eve hit up face people they're saying about me, they say anything about me. Who knows what their real relationship because we really don't know. Wasn't there like a picture taken of them, and then she was talking talking on a hot mic about that they did hang out, then she didn't, that she did have his number, then she didn't. She's kind of been low key all over the place with that, So who knows. But I do think a dudes is behind this as well.

01:14:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, listen, as as somebody who frequents the barbershop men straight men gossip two child with everybody got so Bobby don't.

01:14:26
Speaker 6: Like these girls at all. He knows that's no secret.

01:14:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, so listen, that's very plausible. All right.

01:14:33
Speaker 1: So as we get to the end of the trip, everything went to shit. Angel said that she unfortunately went the opposite direction of where the fly fishing ten thousand dollars dinner or lunch was going to be held.

01:14:52
Speaker 7: The ladys no kissing me off of this ten thousand dollars.

01:15:01
Speaker 2: Ain't just stop lying.

01:15:03
Speaker 7: Okay, you ain't evicted, and you paid ten thousand, paid so for that fish to fall into the sea that you don't even.

01:15:09
Speaker 6: Eat three seventy five tops, and that's being generous.

01:15:13
Speaker 7: That's with the reds got you a big old fish.

01:15:16
Speaker 6: Go ahead, those stay bought in.

01:15:20
Speaker 3: Bulk Gordon's Food service.

01:15:23
Speaker 5: Go ahead, Carlo, you're pissing me off with that.

01:15:27
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, Angel went to the opposite direction. She said, they sent her the pen. She followed the pen. It wasn't right. The girls KK and and Tia. I don't know if y'all saw at that point their face said, oh bitch.

01:15:42
Speaker 2: We're this, You're done.

01:15:44
Speaker 7: They had no first car. They were like this, there's no helping. You got a funeral. They were in the funeral in that car. They were like, you're gonna die right. There was no helping. The ladies, she calls them. And this was the wale part because I sound was gonna bring it back. This was the part I felt extremely bad for Angel. Did y'all see her the tone of her boys Dustin's impersonation, but the look on her face on FaceTime because she knew that there was nothing she could say. She looked defeated.

01:16:17
Speaker 1: It was done, and that was the moment I felt bad for her. I also felt bad because I think it come to her business. Listen, I have to say this because you guys know I want all of us to.

01:16:31
Speaker 2: Win, and I know you guys do too. Yes, I would like to say this.

01:16:36
Speaker 1: If you guys want to experience Wanderland, I think you should do it for your own experience and not let the TV experience prevent you from having it. I think if that's something you want to do, if you happen to be in Colorado, you should do it. Then come back and let me Claudia, dust and Blue know about it, but please don't let the experience on the show prevent you from participating in what she is doing.

01:17:06
Speaker 7: We should go, I think Angel invite the four of us to Wonderland.

01:17:12
Speaker 6: No, as.

01:17:19
Speaker 3: You think that.

01:17:21
Speaker 6: Degree on them are going.

01:17:23
Speaker 4: To have in that maybe the way they're gonna push my canoe over a waterfall, I don't think so, flying zero.

01:17:36
Speaker 7: If she can redeem to us, then everybody will trust her.

01:17:38
Speaker 5: No, we go, but we use aliases and we use the rain the rain drops credit card.

01:17:45
Speaker 7: Okay, use those four seasons account is what we're gonna use.

01:17:49
Speaker 2: Right right.

01:17:50
Speaker 1: Wait, Claudia does it and Blue the rankers are telling me is closed.

01:17:53
Speaker 4: That makes me sad. Maybe I don't want to see her business, is true, I think?

01:18:02
Speaker 1: Okay, Uh, Claudia, let us know how you as I look at it.

01:18:07
Speaker 2: Let me find out first.

01:18:08
Speaker 1: But Claudia, give us your thoughts on the finale that will unfortunately go down in history.

01:18:14
Speaker 2: As you know, by funky.

01:18:19
Speaker 5: I mean it was horrible for the people involved, but it was good for entertainment because I definitely was entertained by.

01:18:24
Speaker 6: The show and I was like, damn like and I liked I.

01:18:26
Speaker 5: Love the I love the Jazzy and Stacy conversation with Wendy.

01:18:32
Speaker 6: I love that.

01:18:33
Speaker 5: I loved the end how Wendy and Stacy, which I didn't think they'd be able to piece up after that, and they did.

01:18:38
Speaker 6: To me, that's hard because using female friendship, I you look us on the wrong way. They like, why you look like that?

01:18:42
Speaker 5: So that was to me, that was what's up the the ending of the show, of the finales is always so shady.

01:18:49
Speaker 6: Yes, that's what the shade is like.

01:18:52
Speaker 5: They talked about Stacy's non divorced so not getting remarried and all that.

01:18:56
Speaker 6: I liked this episode. I liked the finale.

01:18:59
Speaker 5: I thought it was good. I'm actually really looking forward to that reunion. I thought it was a good episode. I was into it, like I might watch it again. But but Angel, we're gonna come. But when if it's still open, we're not We're gonna come into aliases.

01:19:12
Speaker 1: I will say, I'm still doing my research, but as of now, Google set it is temporarily closed. Okay, I'm still doing my research. Okay, dustin your thoughts.

01:19:22
Speaker 3: Maybe it's seasonal number one.

01:19:23
Speaker 4: I'm not going to Wonderland, right, mean you you got well, I'm saying I'm not going with you.

01:19:31
Speaker 3: I'm not. I will watch the show.

01:19:34
Speaker 6: Nothing. You want to me cure your mountain, you gotta go.

01:19:37
Speaker 4: I want to watch the show, but I'm not going to go up there and go to the woods with somebody that already didn't tell Claudia.

01:19:44
Speaker 3: They don't like me, you know what I'm saying. I don't think that. Don't even make no, you know what I mean.

01:19:51
Speaker 5: Friends went into the woods, only three came down the mountain coming out.

01:19:56
Speaker 4: I bet you we're gonna find my body like this. I'm going out, going out anyway on us right, Okay, I will never mind. I was about to say text anyway. Yes, it was a great finale. The entertaining from start to finish. Seeing these women outside of that element was highly entertaining.

01:20:22
Speaker 5: Uh.

01:20:22
Speaker 4: We had high hopes that we were let down with for Angel to present Wonderland Outdoors as something that really was special like I believe it actually is when executed properly and and planned appropriately.

01:20:36
Speaker 1: Uh.

01:20:36
Speaker 4: And so that's that I'm looking forward to the reunion to seeing what happens. And I think that this bonus episode essentially that we're getting next week with a first hand count of Karen's experience, you know what I'm saying, during her time locked up, her talking about to jail, the way she was clasping her hands in that car, like all of that. I cannot wait for next week. That is going to be must see TV. So shout out to Broadwell because that's gonna be good. Yes, mm hmm Blue.

01:21:06
Speaker 2: What thoughts on the how the girls decided to go back home?

01:21:14
Speaker 7: I actually was heavily entertained. I hate how entertained I was by that mess.

01:21:17
Speaker 2: It was.

01:21:18
Speaker 7: It was, it was a fun watch. It was I was judging, like, why am I enjoying this so much? This is a hot mess. I think the hygens of it all and the map. Shout out to whoever was in charge of the editing. With the map, we could keep up with where people weren't and were and weren't. Shout out to the moments where they showed the steak falling like it was. So it was like a comedy almost right. So it was incredibly well produced. I will say that also, though I am disappointed that Stacey and Andy said and watch what Happens Live that Wendy and Karen. Karen still seems to have ire towards Wendy. That leaves a bad taste you want. You went to prison, jail, whatever they call it, and you still haven't let this go. So I just think Karen still having beef with Wendy when all Wendy did was find out that she was talking about her. I don't like people who get mad at you without finding out that they're shady. That's always going to have a bad taste in my mouth.

01:22:10
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

01:22:11
Speaker 7: It's called darvo. For those who are wondering, It's a manipulation chactor called darvo. D a r VO. Look it up.

01:22:16
Speaker 2: And so the fact that.

01:22:17
Speaker 7: Karen is still switching places and playing victim when she was the one talking crazy, even after being solitary for god knows how many months, makes me wonder how much she's grown. I will be keeping an open mind, though, because Andy said he asked some really raw questions, and I want to see how she shows up for it, because I really was a Grand Dame fan up until recently, and also too, if we does, Wendy, I'm looking at the camera, Wendy, I don't care if you did it. I can't speak afraid of anybody else. I don't even care if you did it, free Wendy. Okay, this is officially a Wendy apologage.

01:22:50
Speaker 2: I don't care.

01:22:52
Speaker 7: I actually don't care if you did it. Okay, Pam Greed, whatever you call yourself. I want Wendy and Stacey back.

01:23:00
Speaker 1: Don't allegedly allegedly Pam Oliver alleged over ain't Oliver the lady with.

01:23:09
Speaker 6: The hair, legendary sports caster, but yes.

01:23:14
Speaker 3: Looked like Bruce Lee did her hair every time she on the field.

01:23:16
Speaker 5: Donny Jordan, Sorry, I'll look at the Wonderland reviews.

01:23:27
Speaker 1: So they're saying that update to you guys, so listen, I would like to read a statement from Angel because allegedly they're saying it's temporary closed because people were leaving bad Yeah, don't do that. And somebody left the bar review posing as Wendy Osapho. M wow, okay, So I would like to read angel masty statement about Wonderland that she said, so here it is, okay, it's kind of actually, Dustin, would you do us the honors of reading the statement from Angel?

01:24:21
Speaker 5: How you stop reviews, you close it down and they can't nobody can leave new comments, and how.

01:24:25
Speaker 6: They do it?

01:24:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the private chat on the good.

01:24:30
Speaker 5: To know for if I ever started business.

01:24:33
Speaker 2: It's it's three pages, Dustin Damn. You can read one. You can read one page one.

01:24:40
Speaker 3: Here we go.

01:24:41
Speaker 2: Okay, ladies and gentlemen.

01:24:43
Speaker 1: This is Dustin Rawls playing the role of Angel Massey reading the statement that she released yesterday.

01:24:53
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I've read a lot of loud and wrong things said. I feel they need to be cleared up at this point. Wonderland Outdoors does not offer overnight accommodations. The rental home on our hop is not in any way, shape or form affiliated with our business. Wonderland Outdoors does not have a physical headquarters. We offer fly fishing on land and we have LISA agreements on an agency issued National Park Service, Forest Service, etc.

01:25:34
Speaker 3: Permits.

01:25:35
Speaker 4: Our partner Horse Ranch is where we offer horseback riding, and we also offer beautiful guided hikes and snowshoeing on land that we have permits to operate on. This is exactly like a lot of outfitters, especially in this day and age where new offitters don't have fly shops. We are opening a head quarters in the near future. In the meantime, the closest city to where I live is where our office is. It's indescribably sad for people to lie about a business I've built from the studs. We employ black and brown people in an industry dominated by CIS white mounts, and we work in so many communities of color in Colorado to offer a free outdoor education, and we empower our guides by paying tuitions on licensing and further education and equipment. I founded Wonderland to see more people like me in this industry, and from the effort that certain folks to bring it down, it won't happen, and it's actually shameful. Now y'all have a nice snow day. I haven't said all I could because it's not my way. Keep the comments to me and not the businesses that supports so many. There you go, Thank you. In the book you know so good.

01:27:08
Speaker 2: Any casting directors looking for their next big actor cast Dustin wrong.

01:27:16
Speaker 1: His handles are at look at Dustin Okay, please find him.

01:27:30
Speaker 2: I have done. And on that note, I love you guys. Have fun, have fun, have fun, love y'all.

01:27:41
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