RHORI EXCLUSIVE with Kelsey Swanson

00:00:03
Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King. I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or scripted as well. Hey, Rain drives on today's episode of Reality with the King. Oh honey, you all know this is my Forred.

00:00:44
Speaker 2: Britt new show that is on television let alone Bravo. This show is in its season premiere. When I say to you, as the former producer of The Real Housewahson, New Jersey, I must say, is giving me Jersey vibes. And obviously that's the biggest compliment in the world because it is the house that Teresa Judice Bill. So we are talking about the Real Housewives of Rhode Island, and of course I have to chat with the talk of the town, of the island and of the neighborhoods. So give it up for the beautiful Kelsey.

00:01:23
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. How are you good, so far, so good as this season Sun Roblin.

00:01:33
Speaker 2: Did you think for a second, Kelsey that look, obviously you've heard of Housewives. I'm sure you watched the couple, But did you think that Rhode Island was going to be a show where congrats on the massive rating success, congrats on it being number one on Peacock almost every week it seems like, and I mean, this show is so damn good. So are you surprised by the world loving it so much?

00:02:02
Speaker 3: To be honest, now, I'm not surprised. I think the rest of the Rhode Islanders were surprop or had high expectations and didn't think that it would be a success. But somehow, like deep in my heart, not even that in my heart, I just like it just like clicked, like, oh mean this is gonna be good. There's no way it can't be.

00:02:24
Speaker 2: How did you wind up being cast for the show? So?

00:02:30
Speaker 3: I was recommended by one of my photographer friends because at the beginning it was being pitched for as like a big Italian family reality TV show, and my boyfriend at the time is Italian, has a big Italian family. They were looking for people with like bougie lifestyles, So I hit all those boxes and eventually it was like almost two years of casting, I would say, before it landed on TV. And so for me, I was hit right at the beginning. So I went through the entire process of like video call after video call after zoom call after interview, and it was just kind of like dragged along the entire time before it was actually on TV.

00:03:20
Speaker 2: Did you watch any other housewives prior to joining and so, like, what was your favorite one? Who are like your favorite housewive? Gurlees? I have to know.

00:03:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I watched OG New Jersey. I grew up on that and Orange County and then I kind of just stopped watching TV in general. But like you know, on TikTok, you're scroll and you feel like you get the highlights, like you're still watching it without actually having to sit there and put it on your TV. So New Jersey has always been my favorite, and I like Beverly Hills, but I don't watch any housewives now, and I think I loved that way.

00:04:05
Speaker 2: So you're good. You're good. You're good because I think about you that I love so much. Kelsey. You are super authentic. I mean, you let it all out in the first episode. And one of the questions that I have because again I'm a former er of Atlanta Housewives. I did Jersey as well, So I always am fascinated by the process because I know all about the process. So you mentioned earlier how when the casting process took place, it was supposed to be like big Italian families, you know, living the lifestyle. Did your boyfriend at the time, right, did he support you joining housewives or when he learned that this was going to be housewives, did he say, oh, I can't be a part of this.

00:04:54
Speaker 3: Yeah. So when I was did my first initial on camera like zoom call, I was like, hey, I'm like, tell my boyfriend, I just need you for like an hour. Just put on like a button down and like get in front of this camera. He's like, what are we doing?

00:05:12
Speaker 2: What are we doing?

00:05:13
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't know. It's just like potentially like a TV show about I don't know, Italian families. So he's like all right. So he got on for a couple of minutes and I had the lights set up, I had my housekeeper come on, I mean everyone was talking in front of the Camera's daughter ended up like coming on to say hello. So it was this big thing, and then as the months went on, we still didn't know necessarily it was a Housewives, but at one point some one of the producers was like, or the casting agents was like, you know think housewives, think like bougie, And it was at that moment I was like, yeah, I think this is a Housewives. When it was a Housewives. My boyfriend was like, yeah, no, I'm good. I'm not gonna be on it, but he loves He's more of a Reality the Housewives junkie than I am that watches reality TV loves housewives, but he was just like, I know what happened to the significant others on this show, and I'm not subjecting myself to this. So he was like, yeah, I'm excited for you, but I'm out, And I told producers I'm like, listen, he's not gonna go. He doesn't want to come on it. He's very supportive of me, but he's not going to show him to his face. He doesn't want to be on it, and everyone, I think in the world needs to respect that some people have different priorities and don't want to be on TV.

00:06:35
Speaker 2: You know, did you were you worried that that was going to jeopardize your chance of being cast for the show. Knowing that he wanted nothing to do with.

00:06:44
Speaker 3: That, I was a little nervous, and producers tried really hard to get him on, and they were trying hard just to even get a photo, like for him to sign off on a photo, which I knew in the world of social media that the slew would find him in about three seconds. I don't think he cared that people would find him online. He's just like, when you sign off and you let anybody use whatever you want about your name, it's just like I can't subject myself to that. So I don't blame him for it, but I was at the same time hoping that he would at least make like one appearance.

00:07:25
Speaker 2: Do you think his lack of participation knowing that he was going to be a housewife led to your breakup with him?

00:07:32
Speaker 3: No? No, no, no, that had nothing to do with it. I think it was years. The last two years. It was on my brain, like the forefront of my brain, because that was when I met my other boyfriend, bill Or, who I started seeing along the way. I wouldn't necessarily say I was also dating him. It was just he was the other person who I would see maybe you know, once a week. So it wasn't like too full on relationships at the same time, because you.

00:08:08
Speaker 2: Know, that's the perception we got because the game, watching.

00:08:10
Speaker 3: The show and the super baby and everything else is a Yeah, it wasn't.

00:08:15
Speaker 2: Does it bother you that people refer to you as a sugar baby or do you a real life? Like in real talk? Do you just own it? Because obviously it's like, look, I was with the guy who took care of me for ten years, lived in his house. He's a snow bunny, right, he likes to be in Miami during the off season, Meaning you know when it's winter in Rhode Island. Do you own that that was your lifestyle or do you feel like that's a word that you do not accept?

00:08:44
Speaker 3: So if I am something, I don't lie about it. I was not a sugar baby. There was nothing transactional about my relationship with him. We loved each other, he just we just at some point had an open relationship. But it wasn't like, oh, you know, you're going to give me sex and I'm going to give you this life like, No, that's not what it was. We were in an actual relationship, and people aren't understanding that when he left. So when those five winter months from January to May, when he was in Miami, we would see each other every three weeks. We were always traveling. I would either go down there or we would got we we would travel almost the whole month of January in Asia and spend my birthday there. So it was like, yeah, he may have gone down January first, but then I'd see him three weeks later, and then I see him in February, and then I see him in March. But where his home base was during those months was just in Florida.

00:09:41
Speaker 2: When was the last time you had communication with him?

00:09:44
Speaker 3: We're friends, we talk I think I talked to him last week.

00:09:50
Speaker 2: How does he feel about good?

00:09:52
Speaker 3: We have a good relationship or friends? We're cordial. He's you know, he checks in every once in a while for the show to see how everything's going. But he likes the show.

00:10:05
Speaker 2: He watches every week.

00:10:07
Speaker 3: He just wanted me to me. He wants to make sure that I'm still being nice and you know, speaking about him in a positive way, and I would and I do.

00:10:22
Speaker 2: Is he still paying for the car insurance, the rent and all that stuff.

00:10:27
Speaker 3: No, because I am not in that place that I was in when I moved and I have a new car, so no, he's not paying.

00:10:40
Speaker 4: Well.

00:10:40
Speaker 2: Look, you are so fascinating to watch on this show. I love the dynamic you have with the girls. I want to get into what happened in the most recent episode, and that is between you and Rosie. And one thing that we saw as you were doing Ashley's hair is the conversation you two had in the previous home that you lived in. So before I finished with that, you are you out of that house completely? Yes? Yeah? And you have your own place yes, okay. So at the time you were there, you have the salon inside of the home, and we learned that you know, there's something going on between you and Rosie. You intimated that, listen, could there be jealousy here because when you did her hair, she didn't tag you. And that's how you are able to, you know, get the word out that you are, you know, a hairstylist as well. What we saw in the in the recent episodes is you two are are having out your questioning her authenticity, whether or not she's genuine and honest. Is the real beef between you and Rosie. Is it about the fact that she did not tag you when you did her hair?

00:12:00
Speaker 3: It's not. It's not at all. And I've said this too many times since then, because you can't mash down, you know, a three hour boat ride in ten minutes. Obviously a lot more goes on. However, it's not. It wasn't the tagging, and she was saying like, oh, I didn't hear about this, you being mad. I didn't post until right now, when it was three months ago or four months ago, whenever it was, And I'm like, listen, she was coming in trying to build a relationship with me because we didn't know each other, and she loved the haircut, and before she left my house, she's like, I mean, you can take a picture, but you're just gonna get haters, meaning that if I posted a picture of her hair on my Instagram, the haters that she had currently we're going to now start hating on me. So that made me feel like, Okay, I guess she doesn't want me to post her but like I would have when I'm trying to meet somebody and like be friends with somebody, knowing I'm going to be filming with them for the entire summer, like I would just that's just something I would naturally do to support someone like oh like me and Kelsey, like she just in my hair, like I love it, just something not because it's expected. I did not expect it per se. I just thought it was kind of like the right thing to do. And as the months went on after I started seeing her post everybody else. So it wasn't like, oh, we're just starting hanging out now, and then you start seeing Pizza Mama, and then you start seeing her other friend, and then you start seeing Liz, and then it's just like she starts to post to everyone else but me, and it just felt like it was intentional. I never brought it up to her, but there was all pre production stuff between her and I that I did not like, and it was basically against her character. It was just things that were what I'm adding up inside my brain before I'm meeting somebody. And it's just like every time I see her, it was like she acted different and I just didn't I could not get to know this girl.

00:14:10
Speaker 2: But it was not I saw a filming. You feel like she was what being shady towards you, like what, so she.

00:14:17
Speaker 3: Was trying to dig up dirt on all of us, and she was like storing it in her notes app and she always wanted to make it seem like she had the upper hand in this, Like she was talking to production and she had these like close ties and she talks to them all day long, and it was just like we're all on the same playing field here, and nobody kind of liked the fact that she was being kind of like aggressive in that way, like she's the star, and I don't like that, like pick me girl and that one that tries to kind of dominate the room that she's in and make everyone feel like they're below them. Those were the things that I had in the back of my brain going into meeting this girl. Okay, I cut her hair, she doesn't want me to post it based off of what she was saying to me. Then I did her makeup. She left saying she liked it. Also, never gave any acknowledgment or even like, oh, going to see Kelsey today or just something like you're trying to be friends with me, like do something to show that you actually care, and you're not doing it just for like the show, Like I don't know, So it just wasn't authentic between her and I, and so it's hard for me to force something that I don't feel like is genuine.

00:15:34
Speaker 2: So, yeah, can you tell me if I got this wrong? Because you know, I know how these shows work, and I know I know how the girls work. Yeah, does it sound to you the way it sounds to me that she did not want to be associated with you like she does she feel like you're not the type of girl that should be associated with her base on whatever. She felt like, I'm here, you're here because not tagging you, I give you any acknowledgement, not talking to you outside of cameras, it's sort of like, you know, I'm better than Kelsey, or because Kelsey is considered to be the sugar baby, maybe doesn't go with my brand. Did you feel that way?

00:16:24
Speaker 3: Not necessarily? And there was also a time when we were going to do a pilot and she wanted me to come over and do her makeup for it, and I just felt like she was still trying to think she was here when like we're both actually going to be on the show, So like, why are you pretending or why are you coming across as if like you're superior? It just it was like icky, But no, I don't think it was that her brand didn't align with me, because, to be honest, she did not know anybody going into the show, So I think she was trying to just get on everyone's good side mm hm and build relationships, but she.

00:17:00
Speaker 2: Didn't.

00:17:00
Speaker 3: I don't know.

00:17:03
Speaker 2: This is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show. How did you feel when you saw that? Her husband said that you are the things that you're accusing Rosie of not being, which is not having property and not having a job. He feels like that's you and you're projecting.

00:17:26
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I think it's so funny that he says that I am in no way jealous of Rosie having a house. I hope she builds the biggest house to ever. What I was coming across is I just kept clocking her bullshit, like her being an exaggerator. I just I'm clocking all these things, and I'm like taking notes like I'm a fax girl, Like I don't try to bullshit me to like seem cool or something, and I don't care that my name is not a house, Like maybe my boyfriend doesn't make me pay half the bills like, that's not why, that's why my name is not a house. My boyfriend owns like six houses. I don't give a shit. I don't. I don't care if my name's on a house. I really don't. And I've always had a job. I've actually always worked, but not because I needed to survive, but because I wanted to. No did I work every single day of my life. But for the last ten years, I always had some sort of job making money, and I never had any overhead or any bills to pay. So you can imagine how much money I saved in ten years. So everyone thinks, girl, you left with nothing, You're very, very wrong. I left in the best position I could have ever left in. And girls, we always have a plan. So I guess she didn't clock that one.

00:18:53
Speaker 2: Do you have more money than Rosie?

00:18:56
Speaker 3: I don't know how much money she has. I don't know how much funny she has. And I'll never It's not a pissing contest to me. But don't pretend like I'm jealous of your career, the one that you talked about and the house that you are building. I'm really not jealous. I promise you. I support my friends and I want the best for them, but I don't have to like put her down. I just don't like somebody who bullshits. And so that's where the underlying frustration kind of stems from.

00:19:35
Speaker 2: Do you okay, so you talk about you don't like anybody who bullshits, and I'm with you there. Do you think Joe Ellen is bullshitting when she denies the fact that she slept with your ex boyfriend on the boat with another girl. She's like, we slept together. I'll give you know Kelsey that it did not happen on the boat. It's not what she said. I own who I am. So is Joe Ellen telling the truth in that regard?

00:20:03
Speaker 3: At the time she didn't remember it. After the fact she was like, oh, I remember, actually we did that did happen, But in the moment she thought it was on land, which there was multiple times, So I don't think she was necessarily lying about that. She just didn't remember that specific time.

00:20:24
Speaker 2: Is roe I would like the land? Speaking of land, well, yeah, it's like the land of Swinger.

00:20:32
Speaker 3: I don't know about that. Apparently there is a big, a big swinging community.

00:20:38
Speaker 2: You know.

00:20:38
Speaker 3: I've never been a part of that, so I don't know what exists, but apparently it exists.

00:20:46
Speaker 2: Do you believe Joe Ellen when she denies the fact that she and her husband are swingers?

00:20:53
Speaker 3: I believe she's not a swinger. I don't think Gary would even want that if it was two girls. But you know, no, I don't know she's not a swinger.

00:21:05
Speaker 2: Did it weard you out when you saw the scene where her sister was talking to her husband while Joe Ellen wasn't there? Do you think it's like odd or no?

00:21:17
Speaker 3: I have no Jen and I love Jen and she's funny, but no, she she had a crush on Gary, maybe a couple of boot grab or you know, a kiss, but there was She's not currently trying to get Gary away from Joellen like they're just you know, they have a good relationship as brother in law and sister in law.

00:21:41
Speaker 2: Your girl Liz was on Watch What Happens Live recently and she, you know, was asked a question about you and Dino and whether or not you guys had relations. She said, it's your story to tell, and Andy acts, did Dina have any relations with the other cast members? And she didn't want to answer that question. So when it came to you, in Dino. Was it just a casual, you know situation. Are you the only one on the cast that had relations with Dina?

00:22:18
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think to my to my knowledgement, yeah, I'm the only other one, and I am so not that I'm mad, But like the fact that that was even brought up means nothing to the show, to my storyline, to her, like, it means nothing. The only thing that it showed by bringing that up with me and him means that shows that how connected we are as a state and how close these ties are. But me just having a quick little thing it means nothing, meant nothing to me. And I just distanced my I sell from him because I didn't like him, not because anything else. But yeah, no, there was nothing important about that fact.

00:23:11
Speaker 2: Do you think Liz brought it up to remove the attention away from her and Demo possibly being together.

00:23:20
Speaker 3: She took what I said in the wrong regard, Like I didn't mean that there was an ongoing relationship between the two of them. I meant there was an ongoing case with him in the state, So that's what I was referring to. She took it in that I was saying there was something ongoing between them, so I would never say that to her, most importantly on camera, So I think it was just her knee jerk reaction to say that because she may have thought I was hurting her in that moment.

00:23:57
Speaker 2: In this most recent episode, it ended with the revelation of things Aboarb Brian Joe Ellen. You know, the Rhoe Island PI that she is she received, you know, but photographic evidence of Rula's husband Brian in a intimate hug with a blond woman that lasted for like five minutes. Everyone is shocked at it. When it comes to Joe Ellen, do you really think she's looking out for the best interest of Rula or is she a nosy, busy body that just can't help herself.

00:24:44
Speaker 3: She I think it started more of her trying to help Rula, and the more that it went on and the more that Rula was kind of like rejecting the truth, the more pissed Joellen off. And I think maybe be Joelle and even got aggravated herself in being called a liar and that maybe I'm sure there was a little, you know, sprinkle of shade here and there she wanted to throw, But I don't necessarily think she was trying to hurt Rula, I think more so, I think she wanted to hurt Brian, and so you can't really hurt Brian without hurting Rula too. So I think the shade was more at Brian, or the hurt was more directed towards Brian and exposing him than it was to be hurting Rula.

00:25:45
Speaker 2: We didn't say Rula on the trip. We saw that she was, you know, sick at the house. Do you buy that Rula did not show up on the trip because she was sick or do you believe because she knew that Listen, the topic of her husband havings affairs were going to come up and she didn't want to deal with it.

00:26:00
Speaker 3: I think both. I think I think she could have made it there if she wanted to. Maybe she was feeling a little sick stressed, but I think she could have made it there if she wanted to. I think she knew also if she went there, there was no way that the relationship wasn't going to be brought up. But I think she could have made it there.

00:26:27
Speaker 2: Do you believe that Brian's grandmother was really sick when he had to leave the polo match or do you believe that he had to calm down his mistress at the time, because word on the street is that she was threatening to show up.

00:26:42
Speaker 3: Yeah, I said that on Watch Happens Life. Yeah, that's what I heard from a good source. Everyone says there's rumor, no, no, but I would trust Joell and source, believe or not. I don't think think that. I don't know. First off, your ring was on at Angelo's all of a sudden, It's not on great when you show up. What happened in between that point that you had to take off your ring? Why was Rula not with you? If your mom was sick, why wouldn't you guys just go together check on her and then come to Polo. It was just I choose to believe the rumor that she was going to show up. So but again she's going to say otherwise.

00:27:36
Speaker 2: What has since been revealed? And Rula said this recently, And I'm curious if you knew about it that you know, the mistress owns equity in Brian's business and which which which really complicates things. And obviously you were with the man for ten years, you were able to like do your thing, save your coins and all that stuff. I don't did he give you equity any of his businesses or noa.

00:28:08
Speaker 3: He doesn't own businesses like that. Per se.

00:28:12
Speaker 2: A lot of people are sort of defending the mistress by saying, now that we know she had has equity in his business, maybe there is something to her saying that this was not just some sort of like wambam, thank you, ma'am, that in her mind she really believed they had a relationship, and maybe she really did think like he was going to divorce Rula, Like, do you agree with that?

00:28:38
Speaker 3: Yes, I dred percent agree with it. I think they had a full blown relationship for two two and a half years. That there's no denying that he was buying her gifts, they were traveling together, they were going places. They were not just uh, I'm gonna, you know, hook up with this girl and leave. They had a full own relationship, and I just don't think Rula knew it at the time. I think now she knows that they had more going on, But I don't necessarily think in the moment of filming she did, or she was more so trying to protect herself and kind of looking bad, so she acknowledged a lot of things that were happening, or that were brought to her attention, but she was actually learning those things in real time. So I think the reason why the mistress is blindsided is because I bet Brian was promising her a relationship, promising that he was going to get a divorce. So she's probably like, you know, f this girl, like you're going to break up with me now, like you promised me x y and z so. And that to me is it's worse to have an emotional affair than it is to to have a physical affair too, like the fact that there was so many emotions between them and it wasn't just like he was trying to get his fixed. It was more than that. And that's hard to take, very hard to take, and very hard to take on camera and still trying to contain your composure. And she did it with grace. I will give her that, but I also no, no, I think she remained composed, and you know if I just feel like she she played her cards wrong in the way of like she didn't want to accept it necessarily or pointed the blame elsewhere. And listen, the title of being a mistress is the worst title you can hold. There's nothing more degrading and being a mistress and ruining somebody's marriage.

00:31:11
Speaker 2: One of the things that people are saying is two things. I'm gonna get your answer. Do I'll let you go. Do you believe that Rula being on the Real housewasor Rooe Island, that that is what is saving her marriage? And without this show, let's say this show never happened, do you think the affair would have continued? Oh?

00:31:38
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I feel like it would have. There are people that saw Brian and the mistress out and said he was like super happy, like super energetic, and the exact opposite of what you see him like on the TV. So I think I think he was having his cake and eating it too, and he was enjoying his life. So to say it would have lasted longer, I believe it, because now there was like eyes from every angle on him, so it almost had to end. But I think he was put in a bad position, and knowing that he gave the mistress a certain stake in the company made it all made it so much harder for it to actually just end because of there were so many other ties with her financially that were more like finding that kind of It's not just say like see you later, like, please leave my life and only have a business. So it sucks for everyone around, to be honest, and it sucks that it's on TV and that you have a bunch of people with opinions that are just never going to believe that you did the right thing. So it's I feel bad for her, and I feel bad for everybody involved.

00:33:05
Speaker 2: One of the things that Joela and is saying that I want to get your thoughts on it. She believes that Brian wants Rula to just leave him. That'll be easier if she leaves. Do you think that's the case.

00:33:23
Speaker 3: I think in the brain of a coward, I don't think he had the balls to leave Rula. They have two kids, they have businesses together. It's so much more. It's comfortable when the decision is not necessarily on your shoulders and that it's on Rula's to make. And after Rula, she's already been divorced, it's her second marriage. I don't think divorce was necessarily on the forefront of her brain. And I think she should work on her marriage. But that doesn't happen overnight.

00:34:00
Speaker 2: Well, look, like I said, this show is is amazing, and I was texting Lucilla and I said, girlfriend, this, I haven't been impressed by a first season show in years. And I'm like, this is I said, you guys, knock this out of the park. It is no Kelsey, this show is a ten out of a fucking ten. Yeah, I'm a.

00:34:28
Speaker 3: We thought we weren't doing enough, by the way, Oh girl, The thing is this, The think is this.

00:34:33
Speaker 2: As a producer, things always when you're dealing with a new cast, things always start off a little bit slow because it's sort of like what do we do? But and the beauty, the beautiful thing about filming and editing the fact that all the boring shit you get rid of and like move all the good ship earlier, you know. And Lucilla is.

00:34:54
Speaker 4: A mastermind at at crafting a show, and Beyonca is an amazing show runner as well, and listen and the team that a fantastic job is.

00:35:06
Speaker 2: This is a show that I tell people all the time, like, if you're not watching Rhode Island, then I don't know what you're doing with your time, Like this is the watch.

00:35:14
Speaker 3: I appreciate that. And I do want to say this one. We did not do a pilot. They bought the show, blindly having no idea what we were going to be like on camera. In two the first week of filming again, the first time we were in front of the cameras, I think they said they use almost everything, like they use all of the scenes from the first week of filming, which they thought it was a kind of like a trial run, where like they know it may take us like a week or so to get used to like the cameras being around and us not looking. Like they said they used almost everything from the first week, no pilot, no experience from us, and it was all that good. The scene of the day me and Liz were at pulled up on the dinghy to meet me. That was the first scene I ever shot.

00:36:05
Speaker 2: Oh you're a natural, babe.

00:36:08
Speaker 3: And so it was it came natural. I think for all of us, are we boring?

00:36:13
Speaker 2: Are we like?

00:36:14
Speaker 3: Is it going to be good? But then I'm like, you know what, there's no way that this isn't good because then I think back to like watching other shows, I'm like, we gotta be better than them, Like, there's no way we're not going to be It's just like, yeah, so it's nice to hear that it's such a success.

00:36:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, So are you Are you and Bills together? Yes? Yeah, congratulations Congress on that. The last question what can we expect for the rest of the season, And part two of that question is who are you ready to confront at the upcoming reunion?

00:37:00
Speaker 3: What can you expect? A lot of cringey moments that I'm not necessarily looking forward to watching. It gets more hostile as the season for the rest from this point forward, it's the fights are hostile. Whereas before it was petty, now it's a little it's there's attitude and there's aggression. Am I looking forward to confronting at their union? I'm not going to confront anybody. I don't think that's the right word. I think it's good to air things out, speaking to each other and like getting to the bottom of the issue and understanding each other's feelings. I don't necessarily feel like I need to confront somebody. I think people all need to take accountability for the ship they've said and the ship that they've done, more so than confronting. And when people acknowledge things and acknowledge other people's feelings, that's when you get places. So as long as there's a lot of acknowledgment. I think it'll be good, but I think it'll get worse before it gets better.

00:38:16
Speaker 2: Oh, buddy, buddy, buddy, Opah, listen, rain drops. Make sure you guys check out my new favorite show. I'm obsessed with it, The Real Housewives of Rhode Island, every Sunday at nine pm Eastern and the next day on Peacock Kelsey. I thank you so much, thank you for having me on Reality with the King. Give Luchilla a big old kissing hug for me the next time you see her, and tell the girls if it was look you're talking to, tell them that I think all of you ladies are that beauty less. Yeah, seriously, continue being yourself. Don't let the comments affect you, ladies, stay off Twitter. Just be yourself because it absolutely it's working.

00:39:01
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, thank you, You're welcome.

00:39:04
Speaker 2: Bay. All right, have a good Dame, I love bye, bye ey