A Year End Message from Mike + Top 5 Movie Mike Interviews of the Year

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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Movie Mike's Movie Podcast. I'm on Twitter and Instagram at Mike destro and today we're looking at the top five interviews of but before we get into those, I just want to say thank you for listening. The podcast has sufficiently turned one year old, and it's crazy to think that in a year where there hasn't been really any new movies in the whole landscape, but watching movies has completely changed that I've been able to do a podcast entirely about movies. I've had to kind of shift how I do this podcast and kind of what I set out to do, but I think I was able to create something fun here and something that you guys have been listening to and really kind of supporting me in. And I see you guys like the day one listeners that were there from the very first episode. I want to say, really appreciate that. And the fact that you have listened every single week, told a friend about it, subscribed on all those things really means a lot to me because this really just started as a passion project and I was just I'm just a guy who loves movies, Like basically, that's it. If you don't know my story. I am a writer and producer on The Bobby Bones Show, and that was kind of my role on that show, just being the go to movie expert, and I would review movies on my Instagram and I was like, you know what, maybe I could turn this into something. And from there, I've taken movie reviews and made them a part of this podcast and really just made it something that allows me to be creative and kind of get this passion of mine a place to live. And the thing that's really kind of new to me is doing interviews. I've never really done them before until I started this podcast, but I wanted to talk to directors, I wanted to talk to actors, so I was like, all right, I gotta step a little bit out of my comfort zone to get these interviews. And that's what I kind of started doing a lot this year. So what I am looking at is just my favorite moments and cool people I've been able to talk to on this podcast. So we'll get right into it, starting out at number five with Jonathan lip Nikki, who you would know as the kid from Jerry McGuire. He was also in Stewart Little like Mike. Here's my conversation with him and when you do your first movie, you're five years old. Jerry McGuire Like, I don't remember anything from when I was five years old, but yeah, you have a film where you're in and you're five years old, Like do you remember actually being on set and filming that movie? Like bits and pieces, it's like glimpses at this point or like small things I'll remember that or really weird like oh, I remember how that piece of wardrobe looked or smelled or like, you know, but a lot of it lives through the stories my family tells, and you know, my mom was around a lot for you know, most of my filming. It was my mom and my mom, between my mom and my dad. Like that's kind of my source of a lot of the memory, you know. Um, but yeah, it's it's you know, each year goes by and it's like just been a part of me, um, you know, and so it's here and there, you know, here and there. Definitely the memories that's seeing though with you and Tom Cruise where you're going back and forth with facts, is there anything you remember about like working with Tom Cruise in debt, Like did he help you, like like guy throughout that process? Of like learning lines or something like that. Yeah, you know, he's he's he's he's a great guy. And I'm really lucky that my first project was with him. He is the ultimate professional. He taught me what professionalism is, and um, I learned a lot. And I also just harnessed my love for doing this and making me realize I want to do this for the rest of my life. How long after that movie did you realize, like, oh, I'm saying this, like people who are like recognizing me, Like, how long after that did that happen? Uh? You know when it came out, like it was just like a kind of a interesting thing. I I didn't quite grasp officially when like you know, when when when I first got recognized, I was like, I didn't really quite understand it. Um, I don't think you can ever understand it, no matter if your kid or an adult, because you're the person living it, So you don't really like understand what it means to other people. You know, you just understand what it's meant to you and how you've lived through the circumstances in your life. But you know, it's an interesting thing, you know, it's really it's really an interesting thing, especially at a young age. I think one of my favorite movies a kid was Stewart Little Um when you're doing that movie, like, what are you looking at when you're acting? Is there just like a little green screen thing or something a piece of tape? A lot of the time so it's just a tale of tape or like a laser laser pointner, you know. Sometimes they had a little little doll but of Stewart, but like a lot of times it was like tape, you know, just talking to tape. At number four is my talk with director Rod Larry, director of The Outpost, a movie I really wasn't expecting to like but ended up being one of my favorite movies, and he was a really cool guy. I felt like we had a chance to kind of geek out a little bit on Christopher Nolan and just war movies. So I put this one at number four. So I just watched your movie, and I gotta say, it's like, not only one of the best movies I've seen this year, but I think one of the best war movies I've ever seen. So I just want to say congrats on that. Well, thank you very much. I mean, look, it's you know, making a war film. It's a it's a tough bit of business, and I'm glad we succeeded in in in your mind. You know, I'm a massive, massive war film fan, and a few years ago I want to see that movie called Dunkirk that Chris Nolan felt and it was it was just so amazingly creative and and uh and energetic and just so full of cinematic life that you know, it really did. It really inspired me. I mean, we don't shoot in that style at all, but it just inspired me to, you know, have high aspirations on it. Making a bar film talking about like dun Kirk and having like that feeling of being in the action. Is that kind of where you drew some of that inspiration for this, Like the fight sequences, I mean, the idea inside trying to accomplish a much different way than that Dunkirk did Dunkirk. I think it was a little bit more objective than on film is this film is is very subjective. It's very much when the men on the ground. You know, for the battle sequence, I used a single camera and just followed soldiers throughout the course of the battle. You know, we never shot away, We never cut away. And so we really were intending to put the audience into a formersive um experience in this you know, in this vattel, which was probably the most heroic battle of the of the Afghanistan War. How exactly do you do that? Because I know, like nineteen seventeen they did that where the whole movie was in one shot. So what is that process of like is it all in editing? Are you really doing it all in one shot? Well? Okay, so you know, you just you just said something really interesting there because on the one hand, you just said that the Dunkirk is I'm sorry that Macnews seventeen, which by the way is a masterpiece, a fantastic movie, one of my favorites, um, is all done in one shot. But in fact, the greatness, the cinematic technical achievement of Macne seventeen is that I gave the appearance of being in one shot. I don't know how many cuts I counted as a as a pro and the something that I missed, I'm sure, but you know there are dozens and dozens are cuts in that film and in our film that those lengthy sequences, there's very little what we call stitching, you know, cutting together two two shots seamlessly. To make it appear as one, we really had to rehearse because we just didn't have the budget to do that. So you know, we actually have to shoot these things in waters and it was no easy defeat. So you have this movie. It's you know, very big and cinematic, and I found it a little weird watching it, like on my laptop now because of what's going on movie theaters being right on. How does that feel for you, like having this movie coming out and knowing that people won't get that full cinematic experience. Well, I mean they're they're they're they're variations on that. Like, if I'm being perfectly honest with you, it's sort of basically hard to see that anybody watches it on the laptop and one person holding they watched it on the phone, which is like completely severs severs my heart because you know, I shot this for the big screen. I made it for the big screen. It's you know, especially as sound work is made for the big screen. Um. But you know, look, life is what it is, right and and um, and I fully expect that it's going to stay this way pretty much forever. I think that anytime anybody makes a film that is not a Captain you know, Marvel film or Star Wars of James Bond, that you know, they should anticipate that it's primarily going to be seeing on people's home system. So you know all that, All that I'd ask is that you know, when you do see the film, you know, I was trying to see it in the best experience possible, the biggest screen, you got, the sound because I'm sure worked our assis us you know, to get to you know, to try and accomplish that, you know, like I know that, Um, you know, I'm in the Most Picture Academy. So when Chris is going back to Dunkirk, when when we got our DVD box for Dunkirk, um, I opened it up and there was a note from Chris Nolan saying, come on, man, let's see this in the theater. And and that's really what I was what I was hoping for. Well, speaking of Christopher Nolan, I saw a story recently that he says he doesn't allow airs on set because if you're sitting, you're not working. Is there any kind of rule like that you have on set? That's a that's an instant I do the reverse thing is that, Um, I don't allow myself to sit. You know, I literally don't have a chair on set. You know. Look, look, I when I when I was a cadet at West Point, Um, there is a rule that the cadets don't sit throughout the game. You stand with the team. You know, while they're on their feet, you're on your feet, You're the twelve mat. And so I've I've done this throughout my entire career, and especially on a movie like this where I'm asking the actors, I'm asking the crew to be so physically fit and so physically involved in the film, um that you know, as long as they're on their feet, I'm going to be on my feet. But I do let the actors sit, especially when when there is so much running and gunning and exhausted involved in the making of this film. I mean, like this thing was was a motherfucker. Man, there was was unbelievable. Know what these actors have to go through. Speaking of that, we're working with the actors, what they like to direct. A guy like Orlando Bloom, such a veteran actor, and you're having to you know, direct him in a very intense way. Well, you know, Here's the thing that I learned after I made my first film, which is that there's no there's no one system fits all for directing actors. Everybody. Everybody is different and everyone needs to be directed differently. Some actors come with a very specific mindset of how they want to play a ball, and others are claving direction and others want to, you know, want to completely completely mix it up, you know. Uh. With with Orlando, Orlando is a vet. He does you know, he did spend time with the father of the guy he's portraying. Um, the guys praying portraying is was going named Ben Keating, one of certainly a war hero, and um, he got to you know, he got to know him as best as best he could. You know that he's not alive anymore, but um, but he did look to me and he looked at the military advisors for how to behave militarily. Although he has he's certainly you remember he did black Hawk Down, so he has um some some experience with it. But you're right, he's he's a vet, and uh, you know he needs a little less direction than most. At number three is actor Sean Whalen, who you've probably seen in a lot of things, and he's in one of my favorite movies of all time, Twister, and I saw him on TikTok and reached out to him and he was like, yeah, I'll do the podcast. So I got to ask him all my questions about one of my favorite movies, Twister, and it was awesome. So when you first get this part of Alan in it, like, how is that character described to you? Uh, it kind of wasn't. They just don't really. It was very open. They we were just bust storm pacers and that were the only thing we were told of Alan Ruckett myself were told that we were in charge to navigate it. Now, you know, this was the nineties, so there was no app for you know, Google Maps or anything like that or ways or anything. So we were in charge of what is the best way to get the closest and safest to the tornado or then the quipments, you know, And that's the only thing we knew is that's who we were. So I kind of came. But they did give us the costume. You know, we went book fitting and you saw the kind of costume I had. The backwards baseball had buch funny turn things like that. So I kind of came up with anything about that character myself. But while we hung out with each other so much, things just came in the movie where that we're just kind of like us fooling around, like Philip Sima Hassam and I going like food food with our fingers. Um. That is uh, that was because that was what we were doing that some of the fingerst thing, and we would joke around like that whenever we wanted someone yet, you know whatever, So we did we did that in the movie. Hey, we're absolutely not going. At the end of the movie, you can see people playing last paper scissors as the helicopter goes away. So this is all stuff that we used to do hanging out. But but it is funny now that I'm putting these things on TikTok and stuff, how much people actually liked the cat, liked the camaraderie and saw that we were friends because seriously of us, I mean, I mean, we all got along really well. Yeah, what's so great about it? First, the cast is just an amazing group of actors, and then I feel like it's you identify with them being kind of the underdog storm chaser group, and I think that's kind of what Also, people just loved about it, like, oh, it's these just a group of people who are like using their own vehicles basically against the big corporate you know, storm chasers. Yeah, I mean what was crazy was they cast all these I mean Anthony Repps, star of Broadway Rent, the you know, originator of the role of Rent. He was on the Bad Guys team you Hardly Found. So they had all these characters, but Ruby had been around and tons of things. They had this big grouping young actors and then just chose who was on what you brought up that line about you know the food that food scene do you have? And I think that's kind of something that there's a bunch of like quotes in lines from this movie that I fell over the years has become part of my vocabulary, Like I used that part when I'm talking about dinner like food. Yeah. Yeah, it's so funny. So many people say stuff, Oh my god, I get I used to be known for the most commercialness. Say you know, you're the milk guy. I won't talk about that a little bit later, but I would get that all the time. And now after all these years, everybody's saying hold the map or don't don't hold the map. Don't hold the map. And so when I signed pictures of a picture, you know, I do these last things where I sign autographs, uh photos on TikTok in the afternoons on Friday to do it. But I signed on that one there's a picture of me and on wreck by those taystex and I write hold the map instead of don't hold the map. Because you know, people were like, did you actually fold them or not? And I go, well, of course I did. I just find them. I didn't hold the map. Told me to roll the maps, so I folded over. Yeah. Yeah. So I mean it's just so funny that, yeah, that's the lexicon and people are saying the wonder of nature you know fills line and everyone loves you know cow and that's the same cow, you know those lines, all these lines. It's it's just I had no idea. But I think it really kept into this Zeke type right now, which is really a lot of nights he's must out them. You know. So when when you guys are filming this movie, a lot of it is you know the c G I Tornado, the Twister in the movie. What are you actually seeing when you're on set, what did they tell you to look at or envision in your mind? They were just point in directions. They were just pointing to certain directions, and you know, we were just looking up a lot they didn't have. There was very few times that we had anything in the sky because it would be too high. You know, a lot of times they'll do in movies, you know, if there's something weird to be right in front of you, scase on the pole, or they'll have someone in the suit, or but it was way too high up. So they would just tell us, you know, where to look, and and right before you did the shot, you'd be in the truck and they're like, okay, where is it? And you know, they say, okay, it's around you know, ten o'clock, you know, straight ahead of midnight. It's ten o'clock. And then up, you know, and then you up. Okay, good, that looks good. Looks there, you know, And that's what we would do, you know. And you found a lot of in Oklahoma, right, yeah, ninth cent. It was in uh Oklahoma, around some all around the state of Oklahoma. So I remember Bill Paxton back in when you were still alive, and he was talking about possibly doing like a Twister three D version, and yeah, what was there before? You know, we've lost Bill Paxton and have some more half more since was there ever a talk? I know there's a reboot happening now, but was there ever a talk with the original cast to do apart two? Bill had been pushing that for so long, like he was trying to take meetings around town. And I remember seeing him at the Writer's Strike in like two thousand and two. He has some three um and we were talking about it. He just said, you know, it's it's crazy because he said, there's never been a huge blockbuster like that that doesn't get a sequel, Like it was unheard of Jurassic Park, and I mean everything that did that well always had some sort of a sequel. So it was so he was going around pitching it, and I remember thinking, all right, well, let's Twister hits a big city, you know, and they'd have to kind of call us them to try to help people, and you know, have the fun of like a wacky dealing with straight La city scientists. You know that. I don't know why it never got me. I mean, it could be listening Bill and Helen didn't get along that well, just because they were so so so different in the way they were trained as actors and just there, you know, approaches to life. She's definitely more quiet and reserved. He was definitely gregarious or whatever, and then big and he was so excited because he's been in the trenches for a long time of being a side character and he was finally getting a lead. You know, She's been a lead on a big TV show and stuff like that. So there were different points in their life, different philosophies and things like that. So I don't know that had something to do with it too. You know, it's still weird to me because I think that's not a big deal. They replaced people all the time. Hellen didn't want to do it would be Bill and something else, so it would just be Bill, um uh, or just Helen with someone else, you know what I mean. Like, I don't really know why they never did, but maybe it was just because the tornadoes were expensive. I don't know. But it was a huge hit. I mean, it made a lot of money, like twenty five years later than saying they're going to reboot it. I mean, I it makes sense to me. I mean, listen, like I said, there's a there's a big but I was drawing up in the seventies. Everyone was into the fifties, you know, because when we cock tops, when we had American graffiti in the Happy Days and things like that, and we had these lock morl Lob shows. There's always like this love of twenty years earlier. So there's huge nineties love right And now that studios are owned by big corporations, the risk taking is a lot less, you know, so they want to dive. It's a perfect time. It's perfect timing because that's what people want, is these names that they know. And in no way that I have known that Twitter but so much to so many people until I started doing conventions and doing these ticktoks and things like that. In no way in the world. So it's great. At number two, I'm putting the host of the Bobby Bones Show, who also happens to be my friend Bobby Bones. And what some people might not know is that he is actually an actor. He was in a movie called Band Slam from two thousand nine, and I got to ask him all about that, and he's never really talked about this movie before until this interview. I did an episode a couple of weeks ago about one Hit Wonder actors, and you actually submitted yourself for band Slam. Yeah. Was that on instag on Instagram story. So people may not know, but back in two thousand nine you were in a movie called Band Slam. So I had five questions for you about that movie. That was two thousand nine, two nine. I had that dopey hair at twenty nine years old. Holy crap. Wow, Okay, go ahead, alright, So Band Slam two thousand nine. Did you audition for it? Yeah? I did. Man, I haven't thought about this since that. Wow, I did audition for that movie. What was that? Like? Someone called me and said, Hey, they're doing this movie. They're shooting it in Austin because they can use the University of Texas theater and music um and it was cheaper to shoot movies and Texas at the time. Now Louisiana's a big hub for movies. It was until recently. It's all about taxes, right, That's why a lot of stuff is in Canada. Yes, you can shoot it for less. So they're like, they're shooting this, but they have a role of a guy named Gordy, which was my name at first, who hosts the big competition. You have some lines you're it's like at the time, it was like nineteen lines. He got cut weight down to nine and I think by the time it was over. But you have like nineteen lines. But they need someone who's like, you know, in his twenties and it's cool. And I was like, well, it's not. So I went and there was a long line wrapped around the building of guys that were good looking, like lots of hair, jail, lots of the actor type. Uh. And so I went to pair of jeans and a white T shirt because I didn't know what I was doing. I thought. I remember thinking I was gonna be the only one the audition because I thought they just had it ready for me. I was like, oh, I gotta vide to do this movie. It was a bunch of people. So I went into this room. This is just a room like a bedroom at a house, and there were two people sitting behind the long table and they're like, okay, rigel lines. I didn't memorize mine. I guess most people did because I'm a script in my hand, and so I was like, oh, can you believe they're gonna play the show here this one man, they're never gonna And they were like, all right, thank you very much, and I left. That was it. I never thought I was gonna get a call back because it didn't go well in the room. I thought because they showed me no emotion, nothing, it was like, wow, that was great. They didn't say it was great, it was good. It was like, all right, thanks a lot. Now walking I was like, dang, I almost really sucked. And they called me back and they said, hey, you're one of the best ones. Come back again. I went back again. I was the only person there at the second time. I think they were they just had to spread out a little more. And I got a call and said, hey, you're in, and you're considered because you have this many many lines. You're a principal actor. And so I had my own trailer I had. I was on the biggest level with the lowest amount of work and money, like I was if in the a lest part of that movie. It was Vanessa Hudgens, it was Lesta Coudrophebe from Friends. It was Scott who was in Friday Night Lights. I forgot Scott's last name. Um So there were these actors and of the A Principles, I was the bottom of the barrel, but I was higher than all the extras and mids. So I had my own umbrella carrier to make sure my makeup when sweat ahead got on my clothes. I had a trailer. It was crazy. I got paid three or four thousand dollars a day for about seven days. I remember making about twenty dollars on that movie for a week's work. That's pretty good. Yeah, it wasn't what they made obvious, but that's what I got. You still get checks from it, Yeah, but it's like, yeah, three cents, twelve cents. Sometimes I'll get a dollar tin or something like that. So that that was that movie. How many days did you actually film? A week? I mean it was a week straight or the thing that stunk was again, I was a principle. So they kept us all together. We ate together, and again I didn't know anybody because I wasn't a real actor. I didn't know any of them, so they didn't really let me in their cool group. And they would all pretty much all the principles, like all right, we're gonna go play Supernintendo and we're gonna have this party. I was never invited anything, um, because they didn't know me. And I also had the radio shows, so I did the radio show all morning and go straight over so some of the bonding stuff it was late at night I couldn't go to anyway. But I never really got invited to do anything. Did you end up meeting all the co stars? Yeah, at least Couch was really nice. We sat in the makeup chair beside each other for like an hour one day and she was super nice. It was really going. She played the mom on that that movie. Um, it's one of the only time we spoke. But yeah, I met her BESTA. Hudgens was okay. Um the Scott I wish I was last name, but he was. He was really nice. Are you surprised that it has rating on Run Tomatoes? Wow? Um, I'm I was surprised that it when it came out that it didn't make more at the box office because I don't think it did well. I made five million opening weekend and twelve million throughout the run while it was up. Okay, so you're talking about we didn't do that well financially, but it kept getting shown everywhere every time I let's see, uh, like a weekend of rare weird movies on Disney. That would be like showing movies. It would pop up. That's why I first I saw it on TV and I will get checks on it would air on TB, so it would for some reason. It still airs now occasional because people keep sending me pictures of me with my big curly hair. Yeah. Sometimes movie channels will repick it back up and put it into rotation, which sometimes people say, like these movies bomb, but they end up making money back when they get put into syndication and stuff like that. Well, this was no big financial risk for the movie makers. I mean, for making a movie was expensive, I'm sure, but I'm saying it wasn't like a hundred million dollar movie. It's million. It wasn't water World. Yeah. Um so yeah, that was fun. I forgot it has been a long time, and then, um, would you ever do another movie? It's just the time you have to be on set and shoot things ten eleven, twelve times. I'm sure it'll be tough to do it right now, but I could if it was the right. Do you get offered stuff, some small stuff, but I don't put myself in the mix for it. Either you mostly have to audition. Even some of the big actors have to go on auditions for stuff, and so I don't get offered stuff. No, as far as movies that people would see, but I do get offered to go audition for stuff, and I just never want to go do it. The only things I could offered her like super Indika type stuff. Can they just want anyone to be in it will promote it. So that's like, hey, let's get buy a real because if he talks about it, people might see it. So the answer is no, not really. All right, Well, there we go a big movie stars first actor. Nice and at number one, I'm putting one of my most recent interviews. It's with Christie Carlson Romano, who you would know from Even Steven's Cadet Kelly. She's also the voice of Kim Possible and Even Stevens was one of my favorite shows that's growing up, and I brought her on from my episode about Disney Channel original movies and got to ask her all my questions about that. Basically my thirteen year old self living out his dreams. So here's that conversation. We'll talk about it now. Even Steven's the movie and I actually rewatched it last night. It's my favorite Disney Channel original movie. And I felt like at the core of this movie, it's kind of the coming age, coming of age story of Wren, and I feel like I was kind of inspired by the character again watching this again as an adult. But I wonder if you get messages from people saying that like Wren was a role model to them always always, I always always get that, you know, and that to me is so important and now more than anything having daughter, that is huge for me to because knowing that that legacy is out there is all I could really hope for. And so when I find ironic is when people say, like, you know, oh well, we're not gonna we don't necessarily want to come on the show because or this is a pass like you know, the people that you think, wow, they're going to really want to be on the show, and then they just immediately pass on it. Um. I'm not sure why they pass on it, because it always seems like a really healthy, fun show to do, but it's one would think that maybe it's because they don't necessarily want to have to talk about stuff like in the past and again, for me, legacy is something really special and if you don't kind of like nurture that legacy, then what are you? What have you really accomplished? Exactly? So I felt like you and Shia, like your relationship thorout the entire sharies of course, with you guys butting heads, but it really kind of all comes out in this movie. You guys work so closely together. Did he ever feel like a like a real life brother to you? Oh? I mean we didn't. We're not in touch anymore. And he's a very different person now than he was when he was a child. Um, and I never really knew him on the personal side, but when we were at were it was encouraged for us to be sort of relating to one another as if we were really brother and sister. And I think because we had such like vastly different upbringings, uh and vastly different world views. I really do think that that kind of helped our our on screen industry for sure. So you're saying if they made like a Honeyboy style version of your life, it would be a lot different, right, Oh right, totally? I mean yeah, Unfortunately, I actually really didn't know that all of that was going on. I didn't realize that Shia lived in a hotel like I had. I had no knowledge of any of that happening, And so that just shows you how different of a life teenagers can have. Like I just was kind of only concerned with myself and my my trying to get into college and trying to remember my lines, and like we all had our own struggle. So this served as the series finale of Even Stevens. And did you know about like the sixty five episode limit when you started the show, I did not really understand much. I started at sixteen, so syndication wasn't a word I learned until probably halfway through shooting. And then you know, at that point I was I was considering what my next moves were going to be. I think at a certain point you say yourself, Okay, this is great, but my agents and stuff want me to come off of the series and do something bigger. So there was pressures that started to hit right around the halfway points. So then three, You've got the Kim Possible movie. How did you kind of make that jump from being in front of the camera to doing voice acting? So basically, again with the synergy right. I think that they had seen that connect Kelly did really well, so I think that kind of put me in the forefront of everybody's mind to cast me in something Why vocal, I don't know. I don't I never saw myself as a voice actor. Prior to that, I really had only done musical theater where I sang. I think we had, you know, um, a musical episode on Even Stevens that was really popular. Um. But I'm pretty sure I had been doing impossible before that, So I think that they just I was on a short list of actresses. You know, there was definitely some interesting actresses on that list, and the producers chose me. I think that the producers felt that not only was I synergistic internally to Disney in corporate, but I was the best bit because I was the age of the character, and from what I was told by the producers and the creators was that I was able to match the intent, the sarcasm and mix it also with the action that she needs to be able to do. So I'm I'm very happy that that worked out in my favor. And when you did the Kim Possible voice like, was there other kind of like interpretations of it that you tried before landing on the final voice. I think that it was very much my voice. I think that Kimpossible is still very much my voice. But now when I tried to do her voice for you know, people and voicemails and just fun things in general, for charity, I can put it on. Um, I can do it. Uh, It's not my voice anymore. But I definitely think when I was younger it was it was a version of my voice, and then I kind of just kind of had to tailor it to what she became. I think over time it became sort of this more, more and more iconic version of what a teenage girl sounded like. So if you had pick your favorite Disney Channel movie, what would it be? Oh goodness, that's really hard. There's so so so many don't know my Goodness, I mean, my girl, Halloween Town, Tim Brown. I mean, I've I've always loved I mean, and I think some of their newer stuff good. You know. I think I think High School Musical did a lot for you know, kids being able to appreciate musical theater, and I think that's really great. You know, I think that high school Musical is I wouldn't say it's my favorite, but I do think that it was important and that it was good and they and I also really like there's another movie that came out a long time ago called The Color of Friendship that won a lot of awards for Disney Channel, and I think that was about inclusion and it was about a South African girl who comes to America and um, she becomes friends with someone in her school who is African American, and there's just all these themes that are being talked about for young Queen they call him tweens, and these are conversations that were being had in like the early early two thousands. So I do think that Disney has made an effort to have some harder, difficult conversations through their concept. So there we go. Those are my top five interviews of I like to do more of those coming up in Be sure to listen next week when I do my top five movies of my definite list of the best things that came out last year. 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