Jen Shah’s EPIC Return + RHOSLC Recap with Monica Garcia

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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King. I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or scripted as well. Hey, rain Drops, look, this is your pre Thanksgiving episode, so I'm not stuffing you with bs. I'm with Turkey, but I am being stuffed by the regurgitation.

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Speaker 2: Trains, planes and automobillshit.

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Speaker 3: Anyways, give it up for the beautiful, beautiful, beautiful.

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Speaker 2: I see yah bye.

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Speaker 4: Are we ready to let's eat Tunny. It's time to feed the rain drops. Baby.

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Speaker 3: I'm definitely hungry for something other than a train story, but I'm not thirsty as Brittany Bateman is well, but I love it.

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Speaker 4: Yes, we love her, Brittany.

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Speaker 2: I love you. Listen.

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Speaker 3: Andy Coma said she was the thirstiest Bravo leparty and ye she look.

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Speaker 2: The beauty about Brittany is the fact.

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Speaker 3: That she took that she posted something on Instagram and she had fun with it, and that's the type of girl that I like.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, we have to get into this episode.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I really want to take her thoughts on it, because for me, I'm just like, girls, this is episode eleven, and I'm gonna need y'all to talk about something else is going.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I'm so glad you said that, because last week I was like, this was not the best episode, and then this week I'm kind of like, hmmm, same, same, Like I didn't feel Yeah, I think the last couple episodes have been a little you know what I mean? I know, yeah, I just the problem with this is if we went to Vaulters and someone had a recording, honey, and that's where it was dropped, then we've got a good episode. But we have the same circle dance of he said, she said, we're not getting any answers. There's no actual proof, so we're kind of just stuck in this grid block of what they're saying versus what they're saying, and there's no way to move on from there unless I mean they Yeah, I don't know, I mean I that whole episode was really.

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Speaker 3: Carlos Oh Lord, what's you about to say, Monica?

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Speaker 4: I am so sick of the word friend. I'm so sick of the word friend because when Heather said at the table and was like, our friend, our friend, our friend, We've been known that Meredith doesn't fuck with Brittany, they are not friends. So stop saying, you know, you hurt our friend. This is our friend, our friend, our friend. Like no, And I'm glad that Meredith was like I don't like her, she doesn't like me, Like, let me remind you, we're not friends. Were you not on that ship? We are not cool, So stop saying, you know you hurt our friend's feelings. It was very obvious that there is a big issue between the two of them, and so I hated watching yet another scene where Heather is leading this charge of ganging everybody up, Like, what's going on with this, Carlo, Like, I it's really starting to be very very obvious to me. I don't know why. Why is Heather the one that's always what's going on with that?

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Speaker 6: Like from production standpoint, well, look, I think as a producer, what I think they're doing is they've appointed Heather as like this voice of.

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Speaker 2: Reason this season, right, Okay, So what.

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Speaker 3: We saw at the top of this episode is Mary gathered the girls together after taking them to her church, and you know, she really wanted them to talk about the incident on the plane. Yeah, I'll say this much, right, maybe this unpopular opinion. I would love to hear Thoss Monica. Yeah, I'll say that second, Lea. But first, I do believe Heather is planted just to be this voice of reason and because she doesn't have like a real storyline that yeah personal, she has to do something and I think that's her role. But I'm not eye gigs. I don't think it's genuine. So I'll say that. The second thing I was gonna say is I appreciate that Lisa has Meridis back. I think, look, obviously something made that happened on that flight, right, I've been dying.

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Speaker 4: To talk about this because how did our girl Porsche okay, just have an incident happen on a plane where there is receipts and there is footage and there is all this stuff going on and lawyers involved and you have to die, right, But we ain't gonta shit on the plane for sal Lake City, Like I'm I'm so confused.

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Speaker 3: No, so listen, exclusive tea for you, and it's for the rain doots.

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Speaker 2: I'll never tell publicly, okay, So I'm giving the tea to you, all right. I love it.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of Porsche on the flight, I actually got a tip.

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Speaker 4: Oh what what you.

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Speaker 2: Know, Carlos King hoodie.

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Speaker 3: So somebody on Porscha's flight message me what happened before the footage came out before anything, because I'm I'm a journalist.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, a message from somebody on Por's flight and they said I heard what happened.

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Speaker 3: They said this woman was met at Porsche because she thought Porsche was loud, like the volume of her phone was loud, and that this woman was pretty much being you know, aggressive to Porsche. And then this person said that allegedly, allegedly, allegedly that you heard like a back and forth like portion defeating herself, and the woman out of nowhere said she hit me. She said she hit me, she hit me. And then other people said, she did not hit you.

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Speaker 2: I saw what happened. She did not hit you.

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's allegend. That's a llegend, that's alleged. Right, So what we thowt on video was this woman saying how she thought she was going to get killed, like she went that far with her right. So anyway, I have somebody message me that was an eye witness on that flight. Yeah, so this day, I nor my friends who are other journalists in this none of us that.

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Speaker 7: Have received a tip of what really happened on that flight. And that's why I find it so fascinating that why should I seek produces on that flight? Producers get off the chemraphone and take ship. Nothing has happened and came out of it.

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Speaker 2: But Porsche.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, not only did we get footage, not only do we see.

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Speaker 2: The FBI we taught our interviews, we saw nothing wrong.

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Speaker 3: And yes, happy to report that Porsia is vindicated, no charge that our filed.

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Speaker 2: Day.

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Speaker 3: When it comes to Meredith and this mystery, I appreciate that Lisa has Meredith back like a real sister, look.

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Speaker 4: One hundred percent, because here's the thing. Everyone can hate on them and give them like, oh, we're so sick of Lisa and Meredith, and that's fine. Those could be two separate things though, because you can still don't act like you're over here shading them, but then you are sending the memes to your best friend that are like, who are you calling to help hide a body? Because right now Lisa is helping Meredith hide that body whatever happened on the plane. Lisa's like, we are burying this shit. Girl, I got you. Don't worry say less. And that is what every friendship is about, every real friendship, every bestie, every whatever. You've got that one that's like, Okay, I'm gonna show up to court. I'm gonna fight for you, even though I know you were wrong.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: And that's the dynamic that's happening and I love to see that. But yeah, just like you said, I think it's crazy. No one has footage, No one is saying anything. Where are the damn flight attendants?

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Speaker 3: I I just which, by the way, no thick and I shouldn't get this too. What ninety percent of them watched for reality television And I'm gonna fly maybe like Hi, I'm like, sure, right, Carlo, there's some extra potato chips exactly.

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Speaker 2: Right, yes, low key bitch.

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Speaker 4: Right, I'm so. And this is the thing that came out at Vaulters is they were all saying it happened the whole flight. So I am I'm so confused. I'm so confused, so I have to ask you.

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Speaker 3: Okay, they were coming okay, so Monica, they were fine from where?

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Speaker 2: Wait, Lizzy do we know? Wait?

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Speaker 4: Look this feels so long ago. I don't even remember where they went.

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Speaker 3: What they like, it's so long, Lizzie text, Okay, they were on a boat somewhere, because I need to understand how many hours the flight was.

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Speaker 2: From wherever to Salt Lake City.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, anyway, to your.

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Speaker 4: Point, the gag of the gag is this, Yes.

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Speaker 3: You mean to tell me the entire flight, it was yelling and screaming, so even the like I was sleep.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Wait, Lindsey, my assistant texts me, I have.

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Speaker 8: A can Canoon island in the in the what is it, Lizzie.

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Speaker 2: The Grenadine's is that how you pun?

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Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, so we're gonna okay fly.

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Speaker 2: I'm googling out flight.

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Speaker 3: Can oh and Lizzie is textaby Monica, she said there are two flights to get there.

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Speaker 2: All my traveling.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Meredith was yelling that long.

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Speaker 2: So when Meredith is.

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Speaker 3: Like, look I was sleep okay, sleep crazy rich agents.

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Speaker 4: I know and you know rig Asians is out there like why am I in this shit? Like what the hell? Good movie choice.

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Speaker 2: Though, good movie choice? Yeah? Yeah. Ten to fifteen hour flight including layovers.

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Speaker 4: Okay, stop, no, okay.

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Speaker 2: I now believe Meredith.

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Speaker 3: There's no way I'm yelling at anybody for fifteen hours.

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Speaker 2: I'm the fuck who you are.

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Speaker 4: I will tell you. I will tell you. It's possible only because our reunion was thirteen hours and I was yelled at for thirteen hours straight. But aside from that, is not happening in the air on a plane in a like situation. No, ten to fifteen hours, no, no, unless it's on a reunion stage. It didn't happen.

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Speaker 2: When everyone else is engaged something. Yeah, funny to me.

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Speaker 3: I laughed my ass off when they were like, so how did the movie end? And the fact that baby LIVEA said bloom bloom, big Bob.

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Speaker 4: And they're like, that was amazing that she got it.

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Speaker 2: She said, well this is lapped and they're like she was.

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Speaker 4: Like sprinter synchronized swimmers, and merediths like, I must have missed that part.

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Speaker 2: My mind. That is what we call a real friendship.

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Speaker 3: Because yeah, I want somebody that is going to go to town.

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Speaker 2: Yes, in my back. Yes, tell everybody. Yeah. Upon interrogation, this is what happened.

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Speaker 3: And the fact that he answered the ending up the moving correctly, those girls had nothing else to say.

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Speaker 2: They said, look, this bitch gave us the correct answer.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, go ahead, go ahead. No.

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Speaker 3: So for me, it's sort of like, now that we know it's a ten to fifteen hour flight with layovers, I just like Monica said, unless it's a reunion stage where you have six to seven women arguing yes no, that's a long time to be yelling at somebody pushing the chair, spilling wine of them, pulling hair yeah, and then not being able to fall asleep.

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Speaker 4: So I'm kind of like, I feel like, do you think that they are pushing this situation so hard only to bring up, which is what we're segueing into substance abuse issues? Like is that really what this is all about? Like you guys are writing so hard on this just so you could be like you don't remember because you have substance abuse issues. Because first of all, let me just say, Lisa and Meredith are taking a beating this season. I mean they are catching it from all sides. It's pretty insane to see. I was surprised that Howther came so hard for Meredith. I will say this needs to be said, because this was absolutely insane when Heather was like, you've lost your right to speak, bitch, I bet you, Carlos Monica, bitch. This is why, this is why I'm not on the cast anymore, because the second you say that to me, props to Meredith for keeping her mother fucking cool that entire time. I mean, she because I'm sorry, girl, I've lost the right to speak. Who the fuck? Oh, Carlos, Yeah, that needed to be brought up.

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Speaker 1: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.

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Speaker 2: Let's get back into the show.

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Speaker 4: But that's why I.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate you asking me the question at the top of this conversation about like, who the fuck appointed Heather as Yeah, like you listen, I.

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Speaker 2: Do believe this. I believe.

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Speaker 3: They were trying to push Heather as the face of the show, right, like me.

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Speaker 2: The fuck, man?

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Speaker 4: I mean, what is she giving out?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 4: She did give us a Wayfair commercial, so that was new. That was new, that was exciting. I got it from Wayfair, so personal.

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Speaker 2: I love it. But that's I believe.

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Speaker 3: In the first couple of seasons, they wanted to push Heather as the face of the show. It didn't work because she doesn't have the gravitas the hand though that position, the way Teresa dues some Jersey needing just fell a patonement, Like there's certain Alexi on Miami, you do know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Like, yeah, Richards on Beverly Hills.

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Speaker 3: No, No, that's that's a tall order to be the face of the cow, and you gotta hold it down correctly. And I don't know if Heather is still riding off of that old momentum she had past tense. Yeah, but that line alone, I'm surprised no one jumped across from the table the way Sarah Pawson did in the latest episode of All's Fair And like for Philo.

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Speaker 4: The fuck like that when she said that, I dude, it's there are little things like that that happened. That's like, oh, yeah, that's right. I'm not there because I'm like, oh, the way that I would have just popped all the way off if you would have just said that to me. First of all, no, bitch, you lost the right to speak the second you lied to everybody for over a year and lied on everybody about your damn black eye, bitch, you want to talk about you've lost the right to cry. I don't ever want to see your face cry again. No, And if anybody has lost any kind of credibility or right, it's you. It's you that's over here. Like writing hard for Genshaw, and I hope Genshaw's happy and da da d like girl, be so for real, nobody, let's be clear, nobody has the right to tell anyone that they've lost the right to speak. I loved that Meredith handled it the way she did, though, and she was just like silent and was like, I've lost my right to feel. I've lost the right to my feelings, like just very kind of corrected her, but in a very calm way. That's not how I would have handled it. But good for her. But the fucking balls you have to have to look at someone in the face that's apparently your friend, right, this is a group of friends and say that they've lost the right to speak, is wild, man, that's wild.

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Speaker 3: Oh it's beyond wild. And I do want to talk to what you said too earlier. Yeah, I do believe they're trying to. And we saw the coming of the traction of the next week's episode, but they are trying to allegedly intimate that Meredith has some sort of substance abuse problem. Yes, you know, whether they think is drinking or pop pills.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 3: Listen, now that we saw this episode play out, I went back and rewatch how Mary seemed so concerned.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, her and Meredith had that one on one and.

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Speaker 3: She's like, I'm worried about you, and we're sort of like, Okay, she just doesn't want to tell you everything she did because she's embarrassed by it. Yes, a very double dollar. Again, it was sort of like, wait, are you intimating she's a drunk?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but let me ask you this.

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Speaker 3: You obviously were on the show, You've been around Meredith. Is that something you think?

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Speaker 7: Like?

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Speaker 2: Is she is? Did you were you ever concerned about anything with drinking or anything else?

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Speaker 9: No?

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Speaker 4: I will tell you though, like when when we all flew together, I didn't because I'm a lightweight. I'm talking like I am, I will have one drink to drink, I'm gone, it's out, I have. I'm the lightest weight. But a lot of times I will say Whitney was right where she kind of mentioned like when you go on a plane, especially long flights, and you do take like xanax if you have anxiety, or you take sleeping pills to help you sleep on the flight, and then you may have a drink on it, like I yes, I mean I do think that that could have easily happened.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: But as far as like I wouldn't have ever thought, Okay, she has a pill popper addiction, she's functioning. I never thought for a second, oh she's high right now. I've never had that thought. But I do know like a lot of times when people travel, yeah, they are like having a glass of wine in first class and they've taken a xanax or whatever. So I don't I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, yeah, no, that's the listen we've been on.

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Speaker 3: And when I say we like me and producers with the casts on the shows you worked on when you're traveling to nationally, You're right, a lot of them do take like sleeping pills because yeah, you want to get yourself to sleep, and some have anxiety and you are offered you know, the flight attend that does come around, like you want.

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Speaker 4: Someone why You're like, well they are, yeah, I.

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Speaker 3: Got to sleep and maybe finish watching crazy vitations.

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Speaker 4: I don't say exactly that's why she doesn't remember.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's boss of moll.

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Speaker 3: But look, yes, listen, I think Meredith is so controlled as a woman that listen, I don't see the signs.

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Speaker 2: But also I'm not with every single day.

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Speaker 3: I do think it's unfair when you're intimating somebody has a problem if nothing is there.

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Speaker 2: We've seen other shows where we saw Former.

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Speaker 3: Housewives, yeah you know, and battle with substance abuse, and some of them have been honest about it, and we've seen signs of it by watching this show.

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Speaker 2: So listen. I think this is my opinion. I think Meredith had a bad moment on a flight. It's not the worst thing in the world.

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Speaker 3: If it was it was. If it was as bad, she would have been arrested. She would have been on the no fly zone list. And I do think an investigation allegedly was launched to dig deep into what happened, and I think they discovered that.

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Speaker 2: She just read a bitch on a flight, like that's not illegal. Reading the flight is not.

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Speaker 3: Illegal, which is why she was which is why she was allowed to film.

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Speaker 2: But I do think Heather just saw like ooh, this could be a storyline.

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Speaker 3: Let me go further with it. And I think Lisa was like, see, Meredith, let's be clear, Monica. Lisa is keeping track, and she's like, oh, yeah, yeah, remember this when I need you a.

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Speaker 4: H because it's gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: Hot.

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Speaker 4: Tit for Tat, Honey, tit for tat? Actually, speaking of tit for Tad, I know that you ride hard for Bronwyn. I know you love her, yes, but she's pissing me off. I can anyone tell her anything and not have her repeat it to the person that it was. I'm serious, Like, damn, why know what you saw that you?

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Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead, I'm all ears.

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Speaker 4: I feel like anytime anyone in this group tells Bronwyn anything, okay, Bronwyn is taking it directly to that person that it's about. And it's honestly becoming really like, okay, what is I don't know if she's just trying to get them all to like her and so she's like using it as a way to get in with them and like build like trust. But you know the fact that Whitney told bron Win in confidence how she was feeling, and then Bronwyn immediately ran with it to Meredith and was like, oh, apparently you're a pill popper's alcoholic substance abuse problems. I that's pretty freaking Carlos, that's Veessa. I don't like it, and it's happening every time. And let me tell you, my biggest issue though, was that. Bronwynn then turns to Meredith and is like, now you've caused an issue between me and Whitney. No, bitch, you caused the issue between you and Whitney. You did that all on your own because you decided to render it. That's not Meredith at that point, Meredith can do with the information what she wants. You're the one that told her. You told her, so that's on you. That's on you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't bron Win's. I don't like that she like and she's done it to everyone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh listen, I okay, First of all, you are correct. You listen. The one thing about me, I'm fair and yes, I love you.

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Speaker 3: Some problem with baby, I agree with you, I don't think listen.

00:26:13
Speaker 2: I don't like it with you constantly. Now listen once in a while.

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Speaker 4: Yes it's gonna happen.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I don't want Brahma to be seen as like, bitch, I can't tell you nothing now because you're gonna go.

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Speaker 2: Back and tell it. My spiny go off.

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Speaker 3: When she exposed Brittany on the trip and yes, what you said? You said this, I was like, well, damn yeah, did you converse with her and ask all those questions just to hold it in your back pocket and use against her.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we can't be doing that, Like, we can't be doing that.

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Speaker 10: So with that scene at the at the dinner table or lunch table whatever, where she told Meredim like this is what was going on, and it's like.

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Speaker 2: But Women's defends she didn't say those words.

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Speaker 11: Like you you took it that way, which is fine, Yeah say those words, and it's sort of like come up wrong, and like h if the producer aftering you to repeat up and say I did it two weeks ago, give me a month.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no for real. It's like every sapday like I'm like, oh girl, you better be careful honey, because they're never going to tell you anything ever. No one can trust you, Like she has no actual like loyalties, I think, And that's why I'm saying maybe she's just trying to like build this kind of relationship with all of them, and she's like, Okay, this is how I can. I don't know. It's very very very interesting. You know what else is interesting, though? Not Heather Gay's twenty year old mattress. And I know, okay, let me tell you. If that were me, I would be getting roasted and toasted on the internet right now for being too poor to buy myself a new damn mattress. How you have a mattress for twenty years? Carlos, how do you have a mattress for twenty years?

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Speaker 2: Bitch? The blue light on a twitter year mattress?

00:28:19
Speaker 4: That's the sing we needed, like like what.

00:28:27
Speaker 2: Mattress?

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Speaker 1: Bitch?

00:28:28
Speaker 4: Like it's not fair because if that was me, I would be getting fucking You're disgusting. You're too poor to buy a mattress, bitch, bitch.

00:28:38
Speaker 2: Moody's take Monica to Walmart and we're gonna Monica's mattress. Bitch? How do you a Monica's twenty years?

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Speaker 4: I would have been like, someone could take her kids, she's filthy. But with Heather, it's like, oh, such a double standard. Now you know what else we have to talk about? Okay, Yes, Genshaw.

00:29:12
Speaker 3: Okay, So rain Drops Bringing News is getting released on December tenth.

00:29:21
Speaker 4: Yes, for Christmas, honey, she'll be all for Christmas.

00:29:25
Speaker 2: She's getting release in three weeks. Yes, No, this is and I'm being honest.

00:29:33
Speaker 3: It honestly feels like yesterday she was sent to jail. No, yeah, this is yeah, Okay, but go ahead, what are your thoughts?

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Speaker 4: Okay, First of all, there is not a scripted monologue in the world that can protect Heather. Kay if Genshaw comes back to the show.

00:29:57
Speaker 3: Okay, Monica says, scripted My cats.

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Speaker 4: There, Carlos, I have been dying and this is the first time you guys that were I'm actually talking to Carlos about this. We have not had this conversation. No, I have never talked to you about this. Do you think they will bring Genshaw back?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 3: And the only reason why I'm saying this is because of two top executives who have said something about Jenshaw.

00:30:33
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay. So I don't know if you've seen this or not. Maybe a month or two ago, someone filmed.

00:30:43
Speaker 3: Andy Cohen on watching It Happens live talking to the audience.

00:30:47
Speaker 2: This is not this is not on the actual show.

00:30:51
Speaker 3: I think, either before or after taping, he talks to the audience and think he was asking questions.

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Speaker 2: Okay, albody asked him about Genshaw doing that sort of like Q and A.

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Speaker 3: Right, And what he said was, and this is a quote, is what he said. He said he never wants to see her again. That's what he said. And I'm not making this up.

00:31:20
Speaker 2: That's what he said.

00:31:21
Speaker 3: There's there's there's like footage. I'm saying that he said he never wants to see her again. Okay, so that's what he said. Now, recently, there was a Variety Variety article.

00:31:36
Speaker 2: So for my rain drops, Variety is.

00:31:40
Speaker 3: A trade magazine that is for the industry, so they interview you know, all of the industry, you.

00:31:51
Speaker 2: Know, top dogs, actors and behind the scenes.

00:31:55
Speaker 3: So the Bravo boss named Francis Berwick, he was asked about Jinshaw.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, yeah, so this is okay, So this is a second quote that I'm going to read.

00:32:07
Speaker 3: About another top executive that had something to say. So once I read you, guys, this, this is what my answer is going to be after that. Okay, so buckle up here it goes okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:32:24
Speaker 2: So the journalist did ask.

00:32:30
Speaker 3: Jen Shaw, is that one less forgivable? Because the journalist was asking about Karen Huger being sentenced for why and blah blah blah. So her response was for me, okay, let me just to give you guys context, right, yes, yes, So the journalist asked this question, I wanted to ask about gradashians or criminal behavior, as.

00:33:03
Speaker 12: Well as what is forgivable and what isn't What makes something forgivable within the Bravo universe, And her response was, is a variety of things, but it's also a level of accountability.

00:33:21
Speaker 3: They asked, well, Carara be on Potomac next season, and she goes, I can't tell you because we haven't picked up next season yet.

00:33:30
Speaker 2: He goes, when it's picked.

00:33:31
Speaker 3: Up, I'll ask you again, jen Shaw, is that one less forgivable? Her response was for me personally, yeah, but you know again, I have no idea on the level of accountability. But yes, with that thing said, I would be shocked if Jenshaw is asked to come back to Salt Lake City bake all those two responses.

00:34:02
Speaker 2: But what do you think bank of those two responses alone, what do you think me as a viewer, this is only me speaking as a beer Yeah, I want to see it, but.

00:34:18
Speaker 3: Range like we know the commons. I want to see Jim Shaun back on the show. But that's just me speaking as a bewre.

00:34:27
Speaker 4: I Okay, I'm going to be so blunt, and I think that they would bring her back one hundred percent. I think that they are looking at this as we have so many unanswered questions. We know that Bravo loves look however you look at a season, however you look at a franchise, Bravo loves when things are like like this, because that's actually real life. Friendships are good, friendships are bad. People break up, people make up, people get married, people get divorced. I mean, there's constantly like growth, I guess I would say. So it's hard for me to picture Bravo looking at the Genshaw at all, not thinking there's this loosen, there's that loosen, there's a black guy, there's you know, there's all these things. But at the same time, when you have someone that literally has victims that have taken their lives because of what you did to them, I don't know how that works. I do know everybody wants to see it. Yeah, like everybody wants to see it. A lot of people are like, where's the line though, Like there's got to be a line for like, Okay, where's Bravo willing to be like, no, this is unacceptable. But the accountability statement to me kind of says a lot is It's kind of like, so if she takes all the accountability, you know, at that point, is she going to be welcomed back because she took accountability? For me, I would be shocked if she didn't come back. Yeah, I really would be shocked if she didn't cut. I feel like Bravo's look from a making a reality show perspective, take everything else unfortunately, not that it doesn't matter. We're not devaluing the victims or the families or anything like that. Yes, yes, exactly exactly how do you have that.

00:36:39
Speaker 6: And not and not?

00:36:43
Speaker 4: I I just I can't. I can't see them passing up that opportunity. I think the whole Bravo verse at least wants to see.

00:36:55
Speaker 2: Her come back.

00:36:59
Speaker 4: She got arrest, did on the show, and we saw her fight for her life before admitting yes, taking a guilty plea whatever on the show. Yeah, I just Carlos, I don't I don't know how you don't bring her back.

00:37:20
Speaker 2: I yeah, no, that's that's the thing. That's the thing.

00:37:23
Speaker 3: Listen, stranger things have happened. Yeah, it'll be very interesting to see and listen. I don't think anyone knew that she will be getting out this suit. And what's interesting is I did, I did?

00:37:39
Speaker 2: How did you know?

00:37:40
Speaker 4: So I actually I actually found out a couple of months ago, and yeah, I was actually told by a very credible source. And however, they told me she's getting out in like two weeks, and I was like, what now, mind you, this was a couple of months ago, So I thought at that point she was getting out like in two weeks. So when it didn't happen, I was like, well, maybe it wasn't true. So when I did see December tenth, I was not surprised at all. I knew it was gonna because I had heard.

00:38:18
Speaker 2: Yeah.

00:38:19
Speaker 4: So honestly, seeing Angie at Bravo, Khan be like Jen Shaw, I'm like, maybe they already knew. Maybe they already knew me because I did.

00:38:31
Speaker 2: So if I did, yeah, yeah, if you knew, then they knew Tube.

00:38:37
Speaker 3: Yeah, they knew Tube, and we know that they will more than likely try to not make that happen.

00:38:46
Speaker 2: Because I don't think these girls wore her back on the shell, do you.

00:38:50
Speaker 4: No, I don't care what they say. I don't care how they try and spin it. At the end of the day, they know that Genshaw made their lives hell. They can sit here and be like, I'd rather film with Genshaw. Okay, go on, then like go ahead. I don't think that they want her back. I will tell you though, if she comes back, she she's going to dominate again.

00:39:21
Speaker 3: She just.

00:39:23
Speaker 4: No, That's what I mean. At the end of the day, I don't they don't want her to come in and dominate again, and Loki I do. I'm like, go get it, girl, Go get it, honey, get it gin, get your spot back. Because some people have gotten a little too big uh in their heads.

00:39:42
Speaker 3: I e.

00:39:42
Speaker 4: You've lost the right to speak. That's wild and uh you know, come and uh come and remind them, like, yes, tell me what.

00:39:56
Speaker 2: What I'd love to see you And season Ray, You're gonna Monica and jen on the same season.

00:40:05
Speaker 6: Bitch, just listen.

00:40:10
Speaker 2: Mama Cup made.

00:40:11
Speaker 3: These girls be featured in the Lost Angeles Times Entertainment Copper Honey jen Shown and Monica back in the Safe season.

00:40:19
Speaker 2: You're getting time to one hundred.

00:40:23
Speaker 4: Look, Carlos, Carlos, I will tell you that's probably the number one thing I've seen online and in my comments and in my d MS is like Bravo would be insane to not I mean that is like, it's not even the question.

00:40:45
Speaker 2: The same season.

00:40:47
Speaker 3: I'm talking about ratings that you used to get years ago, like being close to.

00:40:56
Speaker 2: A million views live day like Solid City.

00:41:03
Speaker 9: Yeah, would be that girl. If that would have happened, it I'm shaking, Carlos, it would be.

00:41:14
Speaker 4: Here's the thing Bravo knows. Okay, Heather might give a fuck, Whitney might give a fuck, Monica don't give a fuck. You gotta have someone there that doesn't give a fuck. You gotta have someone.

00:41:28
Speaker 1: And I think that.

00:41:29
Speaker 4: Also, though completely candid, this is real, real shit. I'm saying Heather won't let it happen. She won't, and I think Bravo might have to if this was something that they really wanted. Disclosure. I have not had one conversation with Bravo, Okay, not one. This is totally my opinion. I could see them having to be like, Okay, we either pick Heather and Gen or Monica in Gen because Heather, No, I'm serious. Heather has made it very clear now. Money talks.

00:42:07
Speaker 2: Ain't going nowhere. I think I would call Haba's bluff and be like, here away fair you to Where are you going?

00:42:19
Speaker 3: Girl?

00:42:20
Speaker 2: You want to stay here, we'll go away. Fair. For mattresses, what are we doing?

00:42:29
Speaker 4: Someone needs to send her. She needs to get an influencer mattress too, Yes, someone send her a mattress please.

00:42:37
Speaker 2: All right, Like, come on, I call her bluff so fat. Listen, Yeah, all that talk. None of those girls are going to leave.

00:42:48
Speaker 4: I don't you don't think.

00:42:52
Speaker 2: No for real. Let me tell you something. And this may sound you know what off their house sounds a true?

00:42:59
Speaker 3: Okay, heck me, No one leaves the Real Housewives, right the ones who left the show.

00:43:08
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say their names, and y'all could do with it what you want. But in the words of lead, use your braid.

00:43:15
Speaker 3: Yeah, the ones who left the show, Lisa vander pomp, m Bethany frank All, Diana Jenkins.

00:43:25
Speaker 2: Because three women have a comment, y'all tell me in the comments. That's what I gotta say. So listen, listen, you are alist you are on that type of time, yes or die. Yes, you ain't leaving, You ain't leaving it. Yeah yeah.

00:43:47
Speaker 3: Benley Hills, Bethany Franco, New York City all said, I'm good against what.

00:43:56
Speaker 2: That's that? So no, don't think any of them will leave, I know, don't. I don't. I think they'll be pissed. Yeah, but I also think you gotta let people know that you're replaceable everybody.

00:44:13
Speaker 4: I have always said, if a show can go on without meaning leaks, honey like I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Every show has lost huge hitters, huge hitters and they are still going. So yeah, I don't. I don't know how you not take advantage of the situation and bring Gen Shop back. I don't know in what world you are letting that go. But money does talk, and if they offer Heather the right situation, she might be like, all right, I'll film with her, but I don't see it happening.

00:44:50
Speaker 2: I'll give you another Mormon special peacock.

00:44:54
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know exactly, Or we'll give you We'll give you a beauty laden laser spin off, or don't. Seriously. If I was her, I'd be like, let's do it.

00:45:05
Speaker 2: Let's do it television.

00:45:09
Speaker 3: Because I will say this, and I'll end by saying this, I love the Salt Lake City Girls.

00:45:14
Speaker 2: I love the show. Blah blah blah.

00:45:15
Speaker 3: I will say these past couple of episodes have been a little repetitive and I feel like they're running out of steam.

00:45:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, as a collective. As a collective, I think the running out of steam.

00:45:34
Speaker 3: And when it comes to Bronwin, I think she's the only one the show that has a great personal story that I'm invested in. I really want to see more of her entire converse, like, I want to see more of that. Outside of that, I think you need, you need something to shake things up because look, based on that same article Variety, Salt Lake City was being praised as like who would have thought this show would be something that is being ushered as.

00:46:05
Speaker 2: Like you know, premium housewives.

00:46:10
Speaker 3: So look, if you want to keep that thing going, you gotta shake some shit up and you gotta surprise people.

00:46:18
Speaker 2: And I think these girls need a little shake up.

00:46:21
Speaker 4: Well, let me tell you this is total I totally agree. But let me tell you why. I don't know. If you follow the secret Lives of Mormon wives, it is a Huge Show in Utah. Huge on Hulu, number one show, Number one show on Hulu, number one show. You want to compete with that? You you are competing with that, unfortunately, because they're both in Utah. The best way to do that, I don't care what anyone says. You've got to keep it real. The people want to see what is really happening, and what's really happening is Genshaw's coming out of prison. That is what's really happening. However, the cards stack with the effects of her coming out of prison, how people are dealing with her coming out of prison, her facing the people after, that's what people want to see. I don't I don't know how you pass that up.

00:47:11
Speaker 2: You'll be crazy to pass it up. So listen, rain jobs, let us know to think the comments. Please, yes, let us know.

00:47:20
Speaker 3: Last thing, the Britney and Meredith meet up. I forgot about that, Yeah, because it was obvious that they said.

00:47:29
Speaker 2: I forgot make up, just make up, just make up.

00:47:33
Speaker 4: We got to move past this, we gotta we got to move past us.

00:47:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, we can't.

00:47:38
Speaker 3: And I think Meredith said, okay, bye, I'm sorry or whatever boom, and I think Britney said I'm just happy to be coming.

00:47:44
Speaker 2: Yes at some time on that that thing guy is what you call when producer.

00:47:51
Speaker 3: Step in a thing.

00:47:52
Speaker 4: Yes, it's time to move on.

00:47:56
Speaker 2: Yeah. So with that being said, rain drops.

00:47:59
Speaker 3: Next week we are back to discuss what it appears to be Meredith taking drug test.

00:48:05
Speaker 2: Honey, Is she pin in a bag or not? Honey, I don't know, but we will soon find at.

00:48:12
Speaker 4: Least at least they're like dressed up for the part while doing it. It's about to be our George Washington scene, you know.

00:48:23
Speaker 11: Yeah, Yeah, you have an amazing thanks Giving you too, Carlos.

00:48:29
Speaker 4: I'm thankful for you, bitch.

00:48:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, thankful for YouTube. Baby. This is and yeah, next week, love you Monica, have a love you you too.

00:48:46
Speaker 1: Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King, produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership with the Lack Effect Network. You can also find us on my YouTube channel at the carl King on the Score.

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