#554 - Josh Ross Addresses His Controversial Comments He Made During a Live Show + Chad Kroeger of Nickelback Taught Him How to Party While on Tour + How He Got Akon on a Song

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Speaker 1: All right, well, let's talk about music for a second. You feel good, Feel good out of the US.

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Speaker 2: This just fired me up.

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Speaker 1: I like it.

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Speaker 2: Let's say some other.

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Speaker 1: Episode five point fifty four with Josh Ross. What I did not know until I was looking up the intro is that he is the two time Canadian Country Music Entertainer of the Year. I did not know that. I don't know that I would have talked about that. Although we did get into Canada a little bit. I just kind of forgot. He didn't look Canadian. I don't know what Canadian looks like, but he didn't look Canadian. But he is the reigning CCMA Entertainer of the Year for the second consecutive year. Big deal. That is a big deal. Yeah, that's super cool. Josh Ross got some great songs. His most recent single, single Again, went number one. He was like the first Canadian mail to do that in like thirty years. But again, the Canada thing not a huge part of his story to me. I think he mentioned something early and I was like, oh, yeah, I forgot you were a Canadian. And then we got into what I remembered and we talked about on the Bobby Bone Show, which was him on stage being like, I love America and they had to go back and apologize, so I liked him. We end up calling Bailey Zemmerman at the end of this, which was kind of funny because who knows what Bailey's even up to, if Bailey's even awake, or what hour Bailey's awake. But here we go, episode five point fifty four. You guys can follow Josh at josh Ross Music. Also go to his website Josh Ross music dot com for tickets to his twenty twenty six toward the kicks off February sixth. He's got a song now called hate How You Look that's hitting the charts. He's kind of killing it right now. We had a super fun time here he is Josh Ross. Josh is here. But did you think you were coming to like a studio studio like the radio just.

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Speaker 2: Said, like Bobby's studio. But I'm now knowing it's Bobby's studio, Well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's literally my house. Yeah yeah. And then I think most people that watch or listen know that when I do these interviews, which we use in multiple places, so we do a podcast, we do it for the radio show, we do it for the countdown. I'm able to sit with someone and get more out of them, right than if it's in our studio, because you're like, we have like seven people surrounding you. You're like you're in a fish bowl up in that place. This is nice. So yeah, it makes me think that I was reading this story about Cribs. Did you watch Cribs?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, MTV Cribs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. You may be a little too young though, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean I remember like you could like go on YouTube and like rewatch people that you I remember like Chad from Nickelback did one and we like watched it and made fun of on tour for it.

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Speaker 1: And it turns out most of them were fake. A lot of them were. They would like rent houses, Oh shoot, that weren't theirs.

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Speaker 2: It was just like a scandal down the road. They were like later on, this was real.

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Speaker 1: It kind of became a thing where either they were using cars that weren't theirs, like certain people would have cars brought in, or they would just go and rent in another house and act like it was their house. And so when you sat down and I mean like hey, I was like, yeah, I rented this place. How funny would it be? A people all. Not really, it's not even my house. This is not real. That would be the greatest. I forgot. You're from Canada, so he said Chad, I went, why did he go Nickelback first of all people?

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Speaker 3: Well, that was my first tour too, so like I always, like everybody always asks like moments that I remember, and one on tour was with him.

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Speaker 1: But was that your first one ever with Nickelback?

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Speaker 3: I did Lee Brice, I think like it was beginning of that year and then it rolled into Nickelback. But that was like my first like full size arena tour, and dude was crazy.

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Speaker 1: It's good. You know the guys from Nickelback pretty well.

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Speaker 3: I had met Chad, so they were so I signed to the Core for management and at the same time they were starting to manage Nickelback.

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Speaker 2: And I went to a festival in Canada called Boots and.

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Speaker 3: Hearts, and Chad was there like scouting it out, I guess, trying to figure out, if you know, can Nickelback play at a country music festival?

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Speaker 2: And I had not How long.

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Speaker 1: Ago is this?

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Speaker 3: This was like twenty twenty two, twenty three, got it the year before the tour, and so I got to meet Chad.

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Speaker 1: Uh it was.

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Speaker 3: It was just an interesting night because like I think I kind of rubbed Chad the wrong way that night. I like had some drinks and stuff, and I think I was like saying some smart stuff to.

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Speaker 1: Him, like were you being too friendly for the situation? I think so when you didn't know him well enough to be that friendly type thing.

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Speaker 2: I think yeah.

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Speaker 3: And I maybe like said something to him about like something about nickelback that just wasn't maybe like I thought it was funny, but maybe he didn't. And I was like, Okay, well I don't think anything's ever gonna happen there. And then I got the call being like would you consider doing this? And I was like, well, maybe somehow, like you know, he saw something in me or he wanted to help me or whatever it is. And now it's like the coolest relationship. Like I'll be like at home and I get a FaceTime, Chad's in the hot tub. I'm like, hey, what do you do?

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Speaker 1: It's like, I'm just in the hot tub, just want to call. I'm not pandering at all. And it surprised me when you brought him up, but I really like him. I didn't expect to just just because reputationally and he doesn't even have a reputation for people I know, right, you'd hear like Nickelback, there's what And I was like, dude, Nickelback had ate so many great songs, and then he came in and he was so nice and generous with his time, and I was like, I think everybody's wrong.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I mean I'll be you know now, like I've been in Nashville since twenty eighteen, but I really think I'm like three years into this if I really think about it, Like the last two years has really been hard touring and stuff like that. But I met a lot of people and I'm not just like saying this. He's one of the nicest people, if not the nicest, that he just gets it.

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Speaker 2: And I think it takes.

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Speaker 3: Like I'm not the easiest person to understand and I make mistakes and he's done that, He's gone through that, and I think he he really just looks out for you if you need it.

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Speaker 2: I know, like Bailey would probably say the same.

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Speaker 1: That's the other guy though, And I wasn't gonna name check him, but I will now because I love Bailey and have a personal relationship with him. Bailey really likes Chad. Yeah, but he's also like get ready if you go, Yeah, it's gonna be nuts. Yeah, he's like he taught me.

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Speaker 3: I already knew how to party, but like he I would party with him, and I was always the guy that was like still first up the next day and ready to go, and Chad would beat me to that, you know, Like he he would be willing to have a night out or whatever, whether we were drinking or not, or I was and he wasn't, or whatever it was. He was always the first person out ready to work. And it just really taught me a lot in regards to like this is why they have such a long career. Obviously they had the years that went by there there were like things kind of went weird for them, but I mean their first tour back, they were selling out arenas and amp theaters and stuff.

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Speaker 1: So like, you can go hard and have fun, but you have to be responsible first and foremost put the work in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah he really, he really does. And yeah he just cares. He really does care. So it's been cool.

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Speaker 1: This is a story not from Bailey, so it's not from a state. Again, it's not from Bailey. Okay, one of my friends said he went out on a boat chat okay, and he said, they're all in this massive I don't know if Chad yacht. I don't I'm not putting anybody in any situation. Yeah, but he said they were taking these pillows from the boat and they were chunking them off the boat and they had a gun. They had like an assault rifle and they were shooting pillows with assault rifles off of Chad Kroger's boat. Comment, Okay, this dude, I thought that was so funny. And he said, dude, we did it to all the pillows were gone.

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Speaker 2: Till the pills were gone on his boat.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, known, Chad, They're for like probably the nicest pillows too.

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Speaker 1: And he'said the assault rifle was huge and they were just like geeky, like just nailing the pillows. You are not included in this and anyway whatsoever? Now does that sound something These things happened? Yeah, yeah, especially with Fun on you know, fun and it's fun and a good location does a lot of things that's funny. Yeah, first time I think we've ever met, right, Yeah, which is crazy because I feel like I've watched the show and I got to know you a little bit, which is which is cool.

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Speaker 2: So I guess this's the other way around.

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Speaker 1: You know. What's weird is I feel a bit that I've gotten to know a little bit of you as well. But and I'm not gonna bring up again. I'm gonna do a lot of this. I'm gonna dance around things and if you want to go into it film, yeah, story too. Yeah, but like I see on TikTok, like certain people will be on it. It'll be like also watch Josh rost to a video. But it's like certain people that because you're not making it now, so you get romantically linked to folks. That's weird.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty cool to have like multiple relationships on the internet.

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Speaker 2: So it's an interesting time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how you know you're making it.

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Speaker 2: No, it's cool.

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Speaker 3: I mean I feel bad for like people like believe also that they're meeting me and they you know, spend money and yeah that's five VIP cards and then show up to shows with I mean, gosh, I remember being VIP cards.

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Speaker 2: That's like I said, now, yeah, like I.

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Speaker 3: Want a fan card, and like they'll pay like five grand to somebody and they're like, where's my fan card and we're like, I don't. I don't have fan cards and no, I mean honestly say that now too, like I don't have fan cards. But like people will like up the shows and be like we were talking on whatever app and like we're dating, and I'm like, wait what.

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Speaker 2: It's so you know, but these things happen.

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Speaker 1: You gotta do the blue check mark talk. Like for me, it's been people acting like me, I need money. I don't personally need money. I mean, look around, you know you're here, but I'm saying I don't. But they say online that I need money. And so there will be there will be listeners who who who have paid the fake version of me two and three and four thousand dollars, and I will We've had a couple instances with the you know, with the FBI will call us and go, hey, this listener has been scammed. But they have told me because I feel bad, and I'm like, da that I feel terrible, Like, okay, they were scammed it up a thousand bucks. I'm just gonna give them a thousand bucks and like, don't do that because the new the new version of that scam is it's somebody saying they've been scammed to get to get yeah, and they really weren't, but to get money from the person originally. It's crazy.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, Kenzie's here, uh, one of my managers, and and she like there's like fake profiles of her being like I'm Josh's manager in like post. I think one account has more followers and like in views on her TikTok than her actual one, which is crazy. But yeah, people people stretching out the truth.

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Speaker 1: You had many surgeries? Uh on two three, four? Oh bunch four? I have surgery tomorrow. What you got? I'm a little nervous about it.

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Speaker 2: Do you want to talk about it?

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Speaker 1: What do you? What have you had? H I mean, since we're diving in, might as well be so honest. I had my tonsils out. That's not That's not one you can claim super honesty about. That's not one where you go, I've had I've had I've kind of get vulnerable here, I've had I've had a lower body area fixed. But when you say that, you make it sound like a j your wianer. It was my testicle? Did you erupture it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I was like lifting weights and I like get like a it was like a hernia kin thing in it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I've had that, and then I had athlete that.

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Speaker 1: One doesn't even sound that crazy. That sounds like like a professional athlete for that have oddly two of them. They're like what is that? What is the aventured their testicle? Like they either ruptured part or like a hernia type injury.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you get like a what it's called like a vehicle steel vein.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Were doing deadlifting or what at that time? Yeah, I was like just at football. So I was like squatting, deadlifting, you know, blowing my back out doing whatever. All Right, we got a tonsil, we got a testicle. What other body part do we have? Uh?

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Speaker 2: To this ankle twice so my right ankle?

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Speaker 1: Okay, what'd you do on your ankle? Uh?

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Speaker 3: First time like snapped it had like a reconstructive surgery like all the ligaments and stuff.

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Speaker 1: And then did the same thing again and how to get fixed again? Did the second time happen?

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Speaker 3: Because I was supposed to be stronger, but I literally heard it. So I did like six months rehab, came back second second time back on the field and literally came down and just cracked.

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Speaker 1: Were you done.

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Speaker 3: After that second time, I like did the rehab again and then I decided I was done.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever talked about your testicle surgery before? No? Okay, no, So my surgery is my I have an ankle surgery, but it's not near as intense tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: I thought.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, I wasn't. I kind of made you feel that way. But I have an ankle scope and they gotta put some cadaver cartilage in my foot. I'm just a little nervous about it.

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Speaker 2: Oh, scopes are the greatest, dude.

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Speaker 1: Be guys.

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Speaker 3: It's just so not invasive, like you're me really happy with it like I had so when I had it done too, I had like scopes on the back where they like clean out all the cartilage and stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're me, you're me great. It's been hurting me for like two years, okay. And I've purposefully like exvert like X like invert like when you inverted out. Yeah. Yeah, they and at first it was a small tear, but I've continued, I'll say, to perform on it. Yeah, and the tear has gotten so large. They're like, look, it's gonna hurt worse and worse. So they have to put cadaver cartilage after the scope, and that's pretty cool. I can do that. Where are you getting it done on my ankle? I'm kidding. I'm like, I'm going to Mexico tomorrow morning, Guadalajara. Yeah, doing it for cheap like Brentwood Surgical. Okay, doesn't know it. Yeah. Yeah, Well are you going to sleep? You kind of have to, you have to for it. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Is that freak you out?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Little? Yeah. I don't sleep well anyway, so a little bit of me is looking forward to that part of it. Dude. It's the best sleep of your life, just getting a nap.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm in the count back.

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Speaker 3: I feel like I'm I was okay with it, but now as I'm getting older, I'm probably like I wouldn't like.

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Speaker 1: It as I getting older. You did, you're like twelve still, but.

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Speaker 3: Like, but it is pretty cool when they go like count back and then and then you're just gone and the next thing you know, like you just wake up and it's like none of it happened and you don't even know how long you were asleep for.

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Speaker 1: When I was five, I went in I fell off a house and rupture my spleen and damn, it's one of my first memories. And so I get rushed to the hospital because I'm basically drowning internally in my own blood. I don't know that at the time, but I remember them putting a mask on me at five years old and going, okay, count back, and I remember I can vividly remember going ninety nine. That's it done out. Yeah, it's like the I don't want to talk too much about I'll freak you out, but it won't freak me out. But this is like the perfect amount, Like they have to give you the right amount.

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Speaker 2: Like a lot of people actually wake up midsired, like they kind of come to I.

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Speaker 1: Had a friend who was getting a colonoscopy and they woke up in the middle of it and they could see on the screen, Oh my gosh. Yeah no yah, anyway, good luck to me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, what else is up, dude?

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Speaker 1: Just just talking about my testicle and stuff. What's crazy? Is it? Because I had to work for the NFL as well, and I do a show for the NFL, and I talked to so many athletes like that. When you said that, I didn't even it wasn't even like a stutter because it's such a common thing for men athlete.

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Speaker 2: I feel like people don't probably want to talk about it.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, no, no, it's common. I mean it was just like such an aching pain. Let me, let me see how it's healed. Show them here now, I'm kid, I'm kidding, Moving off, moving, Yeah, how long have you been in town?

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Speaker 3: It's like a hard Like I started coming here in twenty eighteen, i'ld go back and forth, save up enough money come back.

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Speaker 2: Being Canadian, didn't like, you couldn't stay stick, couldn't go get a job at Starbucks or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I was like probably illegally staying, I guess. And you're from London, Ontario.

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Speaker 2: I went to school in London, Ontario.

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Speaker 3: I'm from water Down, Ontario, which is like an hour west of Toronto.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so I know London, Ontario because our show is there. Okay, is that which one's near Detroit? That's London boom?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well yeah, you cross over the what's it called the Ambassador Bridge?

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Speaker 1: Would you guys cross over? And because back in the day, especially for a lot of my friends in college, they would cross over the border and go to Mexico. Would you guys have a crossover into America and go to the Donkey Show.

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Speaker 3: When when the when the dollar was good, we would like go because things were cheaper.

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Speaker 2: Now it's like kind of the other way around.

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Speaker 1: When the Canadian dollar was good.

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Speaker 3: So I remember, like when I was I don't know, probably six seven, the dollar was almost like par and you would go because things were still marked down like twenty percent. Because like right now, if you go to Canada, sweater is probably seventy five dollars, but here it's fifty. So at that time you could go and it was fifty dollars and you're saving you know.

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Speaker 1: I find it most interesting you chose a sweater as you're item dead. It's colder. Yeah, but yeah, I don't know. You play ball in high school?

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I mean that's kind of how I got into football and then I got a scholarship when I.

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Speaker 1: Went to school. Did you have covered practices? To have what covered practices meaning practices indoors?

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Speaker 3: Oh, we do. We do a couple of Like winter dome we do is like the soccer domes. It just seems really cold.

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Speaker 1: It's cold.

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Speaker 3: I mean you think about like the you know, the bills, that's like my NFL team, and I mean they're building a new stadium, like why did they not close it in?

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Speaker 1: But well that I get because it's the culture, Like the Buffalo Bills culture is, if you're going to come there to our advantage, if I were a Buffalo player, to our advantage, We're going to have our fans shovel the freaking snow and it's going to be miserable for you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's definitely a thing. Like it was cold.

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Speaker 3: I'm remember for some games we played, man, people used to stud their cleats, so it was like illegal to do that, like you couldn't do that, but people would actually like metal stud their cleats so that like when the field would freeze like literally ice, they you know, would grip.

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Speaker 2: But if you got like stepped on or whatever, it was terrible.

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Speaker 1: If you're a Canadian football player of American football is the goal to get to the States to play college football at an American university.

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Speaker 2: Some people would transfer, like I had.

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Speaker 3: There's a guy named Tyler what was his name, Tyler Varga and he he was a running back for US and he only stayed one year and then he went to Yale. After that and then I think he played for the Colts for like a minute. So there was some people that did that. A lot of the linemen could like stay the entire time and then just get drafted over hockey.

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Speaker 1: Did you play hockey? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I played for like probably fourteen fifteen years.

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Speaker 1: Oh that long?

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Speaker 2: That long?

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Speaker 3: I mean I was literally was saying today, like, you wear skates before you can run. I was like three years old, and you actually do figure skating first to learn how to skate, and then you play hockey.

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Speaker 1: I saw a story today about Jelly Roll going into I think it was a Louis baiton. Did you see it, Mike, Yeah, where they said he treated him like a criminal because he looked like a criminal. Wait, what do you open for Jelly Roll? Right? Yeah, you know Jelly LOWI yeah, yeah, he's great. Yeah we would you pull up the story? Yeah? He got what so he got nothing? But he went into a luxury brand store. I feel comfortable talking about this guy. No, jellywill really well too. Yeah, and he went into a luxury brand store. I think it was in a European country. It was in Sydney, Australia. Okay, not Europe, but another one of those countries, the whole cold, every continent, and he went in and he said they treated him like a criminal because he looked like one. He said, he looked like he was going to rob the store, him and the people he was with.

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Speaker 2: Does he look like he would rob a store?

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Speaker 1: I find that? That was my point when I saw it.

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Speaker 2: I thought, yeah, I think he would not be mad.

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Speaker 1: You say that, Yeah, No, I think he does look like he would rob the store. So when I saw the story, I thought, yeah, I see that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd be a lovely guy. I might be throwing security over that way, like it is what it is.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I think once you get to know him, you're like, no, not at all, but absolutely right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But until you get to know him, you're like, this guy's got tattooed all over his face. Yeah, what's the book thing? Don't read a Judge book by its cover. Yeah that's the jelly roll. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I have memories coming back. Oh I talked about you on my show about the Canada American thing on stage. Oh, let's do it. I wonder, well, I thought it was hilarious. Thank you. I thought there was no I thought you should have said nothing. I thought it was just hilarious. And people get there but her in every way possible. Now, I say this to somebody who talks for a living, and people get mad at everything I say. It doesn't matter so you get on stage. I didn't think you were at all insulting Anybody's what's crazy?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I feel like I'm at a part now where I could like talk about it more, but like I just, dude, I'm so proud that I was born in Canada, but I'm also beyond proud of how hard I've busted my ass to live here and make a living and have a career. And you know, so for me, that's what it was. Unfortunately, Internet people only clip certain parts. They don't take the beginning. I didn't say anything bad about either places. You know, just it was it was taken away that it got taken, and you know, people obviously start to panic behind the scenes.

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Speaker 2: I got, you know, and it's like, okay, you have to make this.

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Speaker 3: Right, and it's like, you know what, what's the balance of that versus just being like guys. I'm proud of both. I'm probably want to freaking go to Australia. I just got back from London, UK. Loved it, you know, told them that they're some of the best fans. You know, what is other places going to get mad because I say that it's just you know, it's just a matter.

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Speaker 1: Of the fact.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, dude, I'm just like proud to be doing what I'm doing.

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Speaker 1: Do you wish you wouldn't have made the second video apologizing because I was very anti you apologizing because I was very pro you didn't thing wrong.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like I feel like regardless, I would have spoken up about it at some point. So, I mean, it just happened then. I mean I don't think maybe it had needed to happen right then. I was just worried that people were getting offended.

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Speaker 1: Dude.

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Speaker 3: I got like my parents got death threats, well, which is the craziest thing. Like we were up and of course this all happened.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: A week before I had to go to Ottawa to do Canada Day and play.

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Speaker 3: You know, and like my like literally I had to go look at one of my high school buddies in college buddy, he's a cop, and I was like, dude, what do I do here? And he's like, you need to file a report and they need to go check on your parents, like literally, like I don't ever mention my parents' names online. I'll maybe post photos of them. And they were literally calling them out by a name where they live, They're going to show up at their house. I mean stuff that was just you know, sick, like telling me they're gonna like hang me and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, what, like what so much hate?

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Speaker 3: And I think it's somebody like keyboard Warriors in this world. It's like if you would actually never show up or show face. But it's just disgusted to me.

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Speaker 1: So and also with the weirdos and not to freak you out like you tried with me with anesthesia, Yeah, because I have been I have been jumped outside of the radio station. I have had a gun held to my head outside of an event. I've had these incidents. All it takes is one weirdo. No. Yeah, so I think you did the right thing there. I just am so against being bullied by the internet. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well since then, I've just dude, I've like it.

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing I look at like the stuff that say happened to Morgan or the things that I've happened to other artists.

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Speaker 1: And.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad that it happened in a sense that well, here's the thing. There's no right or no wrong, Like I don't know how to say this right or wrong.

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Speaker 1: Hey, be careful. You have to apologize if you say that right, right, yeah? Yeah.

00:22:44
Speaker 3: But my thing is like me apologizing could then offend other people for maybe taking back what I said, and then me not apologizing affects the people that I supposedly said things about. So there was no win win for me really, And that was like a really unique situation where like throwing a chair off of a roof, you go, that was probably wrong, bad decision, and you know, you apologize, move on, like those things you would take back.

00:23:11
Speaker 2: Mine is just like yeah.

00:23:12
Speaker 1: Because there were cops there and it was something illegal, right and yeah r yeah, yeah, we're like charge. You're not getting charge for right, So it's just different.

00:23:18
Speaker 3: And then also like we're in such a heated time or that was such a heated time with like politics and what was going on, and oh I didn't think about that.

00:23:23
Speaker 1: Part of that was so that was kind of when it was getting weird. Huh, dude.

00:23:27
Speaker 3: It's just like, I'm just here to make country music and sing songs, singing all types of music, and go travel the world.

00:23:33
Speaker 2: That's all I want to do.

00:23:35
Speaker 3: I got nothing bad to say about really any places I've been, but I am freaking proud of where I live, and I'm proud of where I come from.

00:23:41
Speaker 1: I got a lot of bad things to say about some certain people. Well that's different to me, and you.

00:23:45
Speaker 2: Can you want to say one.

00:23:46
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I'd like to say a couple of things. Actually. First of all, when that was happening with Canada and America, I was very pro Canada. Okay, on my show, I was like, this is stupid. Well, mostly because I got a lot of affiliates, but I don't want to lose, right, and I didn't want to be like, well we got to pull this American off because we're trying to acquire Canada as the fifty first state. Right, the dumbest thing you ever heard, cause that ain't happening. Well, you guys are so friendly. It feels like you're gonna rob me when I'm up in Canada, right.

00:24:13
Speaker 3: I don't mean I just this is not me just saying I don't get involved in politics, to be so honest, until recently, actually kind of till post all that I really don't pay attention. And I'm not saying that because like I don't care, or I'm I'm arrogant or any of that. It's just like my time consumption is just so dedicated to the craft. For an hour I'm going or traveling or trying to catch up on two hours of sleep. It's like the last thing I'm doing is turning on CNN and being like, you know, what did Trump say today? And who's the new Prime Minister of Canada and you know all that kind of stuff.

00:24:45
Speaker 1: So I'll say a couple other bad things. You're former Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. Don't know him, but he is dating a maniac.

00:24:52
Speaker 2: I just found that out last week.

00:24:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was the worst. I worked there for four years. She was the worst. Wow work. Just like I don't know her and I don't know him. So now this is not you saying bad stuff. It's me for the eighth time, though I've said it many times. She is a Tuesday. That's that's a that's a disaster. Well, waiting to happen. So anyway, was he married? No, so he wasn't. He doesn't have kids or any of that. Yeah, I think he has kids. Okay, but he wasn't married before this. No, Oh, I don't know if he's married. I thought, he mean now I think everybody's single. I did him like, hey, budd if I could like tap him on the shoulder.

00:25:23
Speaker 2: Yeah and be like heads up, well maybe he'll watch this.

00:25:27
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, Well let's talk about music for a second. You feel good, go good? Out of view. This is firing me up.

00:25:31
Speaker 2: I like, it's like, let's say some other shit.

00:25:35
Speaker 1: Well, the problem is you just you wade into it then before you then you look back and you realize you're way farther in than you thought.

00:25:41
Speaker 2: No, I feel good, Okay, I'm like one of those people.

00:25:44
Speaker 3: It's like sometimes it's just nice to like actually have a conversation versus just like smiling and being like everything's okay.

00:25:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, this town's a lot of smiling and acting like everything's okay. This sound's changed a lot, but you've only you've how's it changed that you've been here? I think?

00:25:59
Speaker 3: I mean I went to Losers two nights ago, first time I've gotten to Losers since to be on my awards last year, and not that I need to walk in and like recognize the bartenders or recognize the people in the scene, but I could not believe how packed it was on a Monday, full of like I'm guessing it was vandy kids and stuff like that, which I think is great.

00:26:21
Speaker 2: I'm just concerned for, like, if it was.

00:26:23
Speaker 3: Not for Losers in Red Door and those places when I came to town in twenty ninth or eighteen to twenty twenty, and I would walk in a room and I knew that each person I would meet in that room was a songwriter, was connected to the industry somehow.

00:26:37
Speaker 2: I feel like now you could go in there.

00:26:39
Speaker 3: And it would be had like it would be only you know, one out of ten people, if not, it's like a tourist or a student or And I think it's just become such a popular place for like people to just go, and I think that's great.

00:26:50
Speaker 2: It means great for the businesses, But I mean if you're a new artist like myself that especially at that time that didn't have a social media along or TikTok, like I didn't have a video popping off, and there wasn't even really TikTok yet. I mean, it was like kind of during COVID, just beginning of COVID. I don't know how you're gonna get help, you know, And that's kind of like where I like think about the organic way of doing it, and yeah, it's just interesting.

00:27:16
Speaker 1: It's just a different time. I blame all that though, on the red doors, the losers, all that being infiltrated with non musical people. On TikTok though, because people talk about artists, songwriters being at red door, right, and where do people see that they are? So then they want to go where people are, so you've got to now you have to create.

00:27:34
Speaker 2: These new places totally.

00:27:36
Speaker 1: But I blame social media for ruining, right, ruining that, Yeah, that environment, that culture.

00:27:44
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just as bad.

00:27:45
Speaker 3: I mean I've posted videos, I've done photoshoots a red door, you know, and people go, oh, there's red door. So yeah, it's just an interesting and then obviously like development and buildings and the typical stuff traffics worse.

00:27:56
Speaker 1: You know, I moved out of town.

00:27:57
Speaker 3: I live in the culture for four or five years, and then now I'm in Dixon, which is like forty five minutes west.

00:28:04
Speaker 1: That's dangerous. So I live downtown for a few years. Yeah, you got to get that out of your system. But then you want to run from it as fast as you can. It's like you reach a limit and you got to go. Dude.

00:28:13
Speaker 3: I was going down to Broadway three or four times a week, you know, and then still going to Loser's Red Door and you know, figuring out personal life and trying different things, and dude, it was so I'm so grateful for it, but it I mean, I definitely like burnt myself.

00:28:30
Speaker 2: Out of that, which I'm.

00:28:32
Speaker 3: Glad I did, because like, the last thing I want to do is like getting a serious relationship, get married, and then be like, you know, I never did that for me at least, I'm that type of person, like I need to go get something out of my system.

00:28:41
Speaker 1: And I did that. So I always wanted to live downtown, and so I moved here. I moved here in twenty thirteen and bought a place in Brentwood. And I'd had some security issues before I got here, with the occasional crazy right like death threat type stuff breaking into my house that kind of stuff. Wild. Yeah, it's crazy. Well, it's also why we have walls and gates here even when you come in. That's that's part of it. Yeah. Yeah, this house that we rented for this show, this got great securities. So when I moved here, they said, hey, you need to live somewhere secure, based on the insurance that my company had to pay for just my life. Right. So I moved to a place called Governor's Club in Brentwood and had walls and it was all good. I lived there for like a month or so, and a dude murdered his family, like eight thousands down and he's running around on the streets with the gun, like hiding in the field. They can't find him. And it was also I was starting to do some stand up and I was touring a little bit, and so I was always having to go to the airport from Brentwood. But I'd always wanted to live downtown because until you've done it, you always wonder what it would be like to be so close and have access to everything. Yeah. Yeah, And so moved from there and bought a place at like fourth in Church, which is like two blocks from Broadway, and like the Beaver karaoke place is right, I mean it was. It was all there, and so but I went. I remember looking at this place and it was like on top of a building, and it Mike, what's that road or that the bar? The bar? It was right off the balcony was Printer's Alley, like literally I was on Printer Show. Yeah, But I went to look at it on like a Tuesday or a Wednesday in the daytime, and I was like, this place is awesome. It's great, and I would be gone touring most weekends. I never thought to check to come to that place on a Friday or Saturday night because when I would actually be home on a Friday or Saturday night and try to stay in my condo, it sounded like this all time. But who would ever go check on a Friday night to listen to and so other than that, it was awesome. But I reached a point to where I was like, I'm I think I'm out. Were you big like party or like ge party? I mean to look at me, I'm when I'm wearing a card again, who doesn't work? But like, would you go out on Broadway? I've never had a drink of alcohol, but but you don't have to drink that fun. I would like, I did like to go out some, okay, because I was single. Yeah, I was single and I was starting to make money, right, and I was never attractive to girls until I started to be well single and had money, and so of course I was like, do I gotta go downtown? This is crazy? Girls actually like me? Now crazy how that works? Yeah, it's exactly, And so yes, I was. If I was home, we were doing we were, but then I just I got hired and it was no more and I never wanted to do it again. I'm actually okay, never going back ever. Yeah, Like I'm kind of good with that. But I'm glad I did it, like you said, because I think there was a time in my life where I think that was kind of fun. Yeah, and I think I would have wondered what it was like had I never done it. I also bought a place in downtown at the same time in Austin, Texas. Sam, I love Austin. It's the greatest. Yeah, it's my favorite city. I would say it's my favorite city. I'm gonna take fait Aville, Arkansas out of it because that's like Arkansas home for me. Right now. Well, here's the thing. If I do saything wrong. I will not apologize. I love Fayville, but like for cities that like that weren't home because home is different, Like Austin's my favorite city ever. Austome is the greatest where you're from. I'm from central Arkansas. If Fayell is where the University of Arkansas is, I feel like I've been.

00:32:14
Speaker 2: Is there one in North Carolina too? There is a Favbale North That's the one I'm thinking of. We had a show. There was a shooting at the show.

00:32:20
Speaker 1: At the show, yeah, it was like in a park there.

00:32:22
Speaker 3: We were like we're just getting off stage, wrapping our stuff up, and then like somebody like pulled a gun out in the field and like was shooting it off.

00:32:28
Speaker 1: But not at somebody. They were just shooting the gun. I don't know if they were celebrating a good Josh Cross showed on end of the year. It's like twenty one Drum Street and the Pop in the office.

00:32:39
Speaker 5: The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the Bobby Cast.

00:32:54
Speaker 1: What was your first video to to like viral anything? Dude?

00:32:58
Speaker 3: It's so interesting for me because I like I have a great following in such a like a strong fan base. I wouldn't say I have necessarily like had a viral video. I mean I've had songs like Trouble that have done well in single again that's done well, and you know those those are always into support of the social media. But I'm also just really proud of like you know, we've we've built a great thing just on the road and foundation.

00:33:19
Speaker 2: So I like to still think.

00:33:22
Speaker 1: I don't. I think there's still that one that's going to happen, which is really exciting because the foundation's there. So that's a better attitude. I thought you're gonna go with I haven't needed it.

00:33:31
Speaker 3: Oh heck no, you need it. Whether you like it or not, you need it. I'm lucky that I like it. I sometimes like a little direction, and you know, sometimes I just want to date and not do anything.

00:33:41
Speaker 1: Do you have people that are and I don't want to confuse a micro manager with a micro manager, meaning a micro manager would be somebody that's too much and it's all over your stuff, all right, But a micro manager manages your micro things, like what social media content you're going to do that day. They're going to lead to you in a direction. Do you have anybody that helps you on this soup micro elements.

00:34:01
Speaker 3: I think there's like direction, like we you know, like I'll take ideas and direction. I'm one of those people that's like, if I don't like them, just I'm just not gonna do it one. It's just gonna come across as so not organic for me, Like I can't fake like it's just yeah, but yeah, we like come up with ideas and brainstorm and then I'll take that and run with it, and I'll send them stuff and you know, they'll help me post depending like when I was in the UK and time.

00:34:24
Speaker 2: Was all off. It's timing matters sometimes and they'll post for me and stuff.

00:34:27
Speaker 1: So it's great. Can I show you a video? You tell me if it's funny or not. Yeah, I show this to my wife. I don't want to tell you what she said. All right, this is the funniest video. And I hate when people do this to me, But this is a science experiment.

00:34:39
Speaker 3: If I'm gonna laugh or not, dude, my humor is so weird, so I hope this is not going to affect you.

00:34:43
Speaker 1: Oh I didn't make it.

00:34:45
Speaker 2: Okay.

00:34:47
Speaker 1: My wife's pregnant right now. We haven't had any kids yet, and this is our first kid. And it's crazy that she's pregnant, as I mean, I get, I get how you get pregnant. Understand that, like I know what happened. Yeah, so I'm like crazy, it's like Jesus right, it's not she's not a virgin.

00:35:00
Speaker 2: How far along?

00:35:01
Speaker 1: Wait saying I can tell you. I have to offer mica because there are there are rumors she's already had it, which she might have, right, and there are also rumors that she's not pregnant at all. Now a little bit of this it's crazy, Yeah, yeah, it's all wild, dude. But if you plants after this, if you exactly, if you plant so many seeds, people don't know which seed's real and right, yeah, so start planting more. She is asleep next to me, and it's hard for her to sleep because again there's a human growing inside her. Right. And I like my phone. I love my phone. I think we should be on her. Phone's more. I'm the opposite of everybody else on earth. I think my phone brings me great connection to a lot of things. Yeah, and as long as I'm not abusing it, and I don't like I don't look at porn or anything so I'm good. So nothing dirty, well, I would hope. I mean, she's pregnant besides you sleeping in bed. Yeah, like my phone, there's nothing bad on my phone happening, not talking to girls, not looking at stuff. But I love my phone. Yeah, and I'm watching this video and I'm laughing so hard that I'm shaking. I'm shaking the bed right, there's no way this video can live up to what I just told you.

00:36:02
Speaker 2: I'm still laughing about born on my phone.

00:36:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I wanted. I want you to know my phone is good and wholesome.

00:36:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wish I could never mind.

00:36:12
Speaker 1: I don't have any Okay, look, no I'm not saying anything. So this video is of these two kids and they're on these blow up costumes. Okay, and the riding on it says, my brother put stinky spray in my son and nephew's blow up costumes. This is the result. Just hit play, and I don't know. Just tell me if you think it's funny, remember the spread. Don't laugh at any funny. Yeah that's funny, because that's shit. That's because I did stuff like this. Dude. They can't stop for like sixty seconds. Oh, my god, they're dancing, they're fighting themselves to get out of these blow up cause it was no, this is funny, this is good, this is good. But like I do this to people, Like my wife goes, will you ever grow up with your humor? I'm like, I don't think so. I think we're well beyond that. Yeah.

00:37:12
Speaker 3: I'm the person that like calls people and teases them and like like I'll call Kenzy.

00:37:17
Speaker 2: I'll be like the other day, I like call her. I'm like, she's like, what are you doing?

00:37:20
Speaker 1: I was supposed to have her right, I'm like, oh man, broad I'm on Broadway, I'm at the bar. Oh no.

00:37:25
Speaker 2: And she's like, well, she's so sweet, She's what.

00:37:27
Speaker 1: Do you what do you mean? Is everything okay? I'm like I'm kidding, you know. I'm always trying to joke around. When'd you get your first guitar? Mm, twenty sixteen, seventeen? What? But how old are you? Then? That's that's that's not one twelve. No.

00:37:46
Speaker 3: I was like, I was like, actually, I was like nineteen eighteen nineteen Okay.

00:37:50
Speaker 1: When did you sing at first in front of people? Twenty? Wow?

00:37:54
Speaker 2: Like karaoke?

00:37:55
Speaker 1: Or when did you sing in front of people, and people went, hey, man, you can kind of sing. Uh.

00:38:01
Speaker 3: It would have been in college, so yeah, like I don't know twenty seventeen time.

00:38:04
Speaker 1: And why would you why would you have sung in college? Well?

00:38:07
Speaker 3: I would just be like the party trick, like we go out to like karaoke and then we do that. And then I was one that like vouched for country music in the weight room on Thursdays and we put it on and I'd be like singing whatever was there?

00:38:19
Speaker 1: Would you crush karaoke?

00:38:21
Speaker 3: I mean I think like, like I'm not going to like brag, but like I think I can cover most.

00:38:26
Speaker 2: So we know you can sing. It's not bragging like no, but like some people can't cover songs. It's like this, this doesn't work.

00:38:31
Speaker 3: Like I feel like I can cover like so when I would do karaoke, I felt like it went over.

00:38:35
Speaker 1: Well, what song do you think you've covered the most playing in your history? Ira scugadals that's a good one. Yeah, at a party too, that's a killer because everybody knows that doesn't matter how sad it is, everybody's gonna screaming. Have you ever met him? Johnny Resnick?

00:38:49
Speaker 3: I've not, but I heard that he appreciated. I actually like released a cover that in like twenty two and from what I was told is he was appreciate, like it was thankful I did it.

00:38:59
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. That may make me a bad interviewer. No, I didn't know you were at least to cover it. Was it live? Was it a live cover?

00:39:08
Speaker 3: I think it was off the floor. We did it off the floor maybe like retrack it.

00:39:11
Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember now, it feels like it was live. What's live anymore?

00:39:13
Speaker 1: You know? Yeah? I agree with that.

00:39:15
Speaker 2: Want to talk about that?

00:39:16
Speaker 1: Uh yeah? I did a comedy record once while doing a couple of live comedy music records, and do you know how many people came in and we're like, hey, you should you should put in a different crowd a live record, Like you can put in a different crowd. Wait, oh yeah, like if you miked up in another place or find a fake one. When they're cheering and shit yeah and laughing, and they're like you could find so yeah, nothing's live. Crazy. Everything presented as live. And for me, I didn't have to go in because I was playing single guitar and had a buddy with me. So we're doing funny songs as part of it. It's two guitars, so we don't have to like retrack anything. But I have artist friends who have oh you're gonna get me on one here, who go in and re record all the instruments for a live record.

00:39:58
Speaker 3: Well, I think we've just destroyed like imperfect, Like it's okay to be imperfect. Like then we can talk about auto tune, we can talk about all the stuff. I mean, it's just like we're so far down a hole now of things having to be on time and you know, just perfection. I mean, and the ears are like you can start to now like I can hear.

00:40:18
Speaker 1: It, you know, you can hear that it's too perfect.

00:40:21
Speaker 2: It's too perfect, or like I just know that person singing voice.

00:40:23
Speaker 3: And then I'm just like, you know, you can hear things getting pulled directions or you just know or like now AI, like I've heard stuff that people are not even cutting their songs anymore.

00:40:31
Speaker 1: Hey, look, I've heard stuff. I'm gonna be sensitive about this because same yeah, not even heard, I know, I know. Yeah. No, there are a couple of weird ones. There's, first of all, there's auto pin, which is not AI, but people that don't sign their own stuff, right, and they just use that pen to replicate their signature, and that's their sign memorabilia. That would piss me off, right if I bought something like that. We sold. We signed two thousand vinyls and CDs for the record, So you're saying with your hand you sign those. Yeah, okay, perfect, that's not you. And they don't all look at it because I was just like. The other thing is I know artists who and I'm not saying this is a bad thing because they're not using AI vocals on the track, but they can have their vocal aid onto the work tape to see what it would sound like if they sang the song. I do it. I don't think that's bad.

00:41:21
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I use that feature.

00:41:23
Speaker 1: It's pretty crazy.

00:41:24
Speaker 3: But just because you know Shay from you know has a crazy vocal range and sings a demo and then we put my voice on it and he hits a note that we dream of hitting. I'm not going to release a song with him actually hitting the note but.

00:41:38
Speaker 1: My voice on it. Yeah, And I didn't know you did that. I I have other friends who do that, and I have no problem with AI used in really in great spaces. I think that's a crazy technology though that you can hear you say there's a technology for people like me, Like in the morning, I will go in and I do I don't know, fifteen to twenty. I'm more than that's the nice pages of local liners for you'ren a couple hundred cities, or commercials for national commercials. I haven't used it yet, but I'm not too good. As soon as they allow me to, I go in, make a few sounds and they can make those commercials. It's crazy.

00:42:14
Speaker 3: I mean with each demo that we do, or each each piece of my voice that gets out wherever, it's like these demos get better.

00:42:20
Speaker 2: So like yeah, I mean you could write a song today.

00:42:21
Speaker 3: My vocal goes on it, which is great for me because when I'm gone, I don't have time to track four songs to day. The talking voice thing is, I mean I do radio liners and all that, and it's it's something it's like come across the table where you know, it's like can you get somebody else.

00:42:34
Speaker 2: To read your radio liners and then put the A on it?

00:42:38
Speaker 3: But from what I understand, so far as they can't get like the it's not perfect. Well you don't like, hey guys, it's Josh, Like it doesn't give you the It just hey guys, it's Josh.

00:42:47
Speaker 2: You know, it's not like it's not perfect. So yeah, I don't know.

00:42:51
Speaker 3: But maybe with with you it's different because like you do more stuff talking, so maybe it learns your voice better.

00:42:57
Speaker 1: It comes off slightly robotic. Still, the technology is not there. I also, I will use it right whenever it is to me where it feels like it's satisfactory as to what I would do. I think that's a great thing because I think it's just eliminating busy work. Yeah, I don't think. I have no problem with that.

00:43:20
Speaker 3: My problem is like people that are making money off of records that they didn't even sing.

00:43:24
Speaker 1: I saw there was the first song that was totally AI that made the Billboard top one hundred this week. Crazy crazy? What do you think? I mean, like, what do you do about it? I mean, I don't think you do anything. I think it's you know, I've seen this a few times. I'm a bit older than you. So the first time you see something, you go, well, that's crazy. The second time you go, oh wow, it happened twice the third time, you're like, oh, this is actually a trend, and even though it's different, it's the same. And I think we saw with things like back in the early days when CDs went to digital, digital went to streaming, like everybody fought everything all along the way, and the people who really thrived were the ones that embraced it the quickest because eventually it's gonna run you over. Yeah, so you can get you can get on the car early, or you can get run over by it later. And there really aren't other options.

00:44:11
Speaker 3: Well that's just get like I like a wonder about Like even my buddies they got like publishing deals and stuff. I mean I have one also too, which is I'm great, you know, but that's not my main income is writing songs. But the amount of stuff now, like the soun O demos, and I'm just like, are these are Is there gonna be like a jobs for people to write songs in five years?

00:44:27
Speaker 1: Well, you don't even need rhyme Zone anymore. You just go to chet GBT. Yeah, rhyme zone dot com. Hey, yeah, not even a thing. Yeah, that's my favorite. That was my favorite thing too, rhymeszone dot com. Like, what is the rhyme it. Yeah, yeah, and that was like a hack when you had that. Yeah you're stuck. Yeah, pull up rhyme zone. Rhyme with cat? Uh does aunt rhyme with cat?

00:44:45
Speaker 6: No?

00:44:45
Speaker 1: But can we make it rhyme with cat? I don't know what's been the coolest thing? Like the coolest is a weird word to use, but like, what have you played that's been that's been super cool where you're like, Okay, I'm at the next level now. It could be a festival spot, it could be a TV show, it could be anything where you're just like, man, this is cool, Like I might be making it a little a little more this time.

00:45:06
Speaker 3: I mean doing like the live TV stuff like the Mark Kelly thing we did a couple of weeks ago. Was cool, Like that was my first like on I've done some stuff in Canada, but that was like my first national thing. Certain venues like Royal Albert Hall in London that was super special. That sounds cool just I mean for me, it's like a sound thing. It just sounded incredible. It's like almost like being at the Rhymem and or Ropery. It just sounds It's got like a certain sound but just aple like I think like some of the festivals is what surprised me even remember like Faster Horses last year. Certain ones where you know you don't have a great time slot, but then you have like a crowd that's there, and sometimes they like walk away before the next act goes on.

00:45:42
Speaker 2: You're like, okay, they were there for that.

00:45:45
Speaker 1: What'd you think of the TV taping?

00:45:48
Speaker 3: It's cool to actually do something live, and the fact that they wanted us to again play the instruments live, sing it live.

00:45:57
Speaker 2: Doesn't always happen.

00:45:58
Speaker 1: It's like a ward shows, you know, it's just like the usually just the vocal that's live. Did you ever see the Alan Jackson video of Yeah the Drumsticks, Yeah, No, drumsticks. Yah. We're currently producing we've been We spend a few months on it, producing this podcast about every year of the nineties. So it's like the top ten moments in country music from nineteen ninety all the way in nineteen ninety nine. And it's ten episodes and it has taken us literally months to do. And one of them is Alan Jackson being irritated that they didn't want him to play fully live yeah, and so he had his drummer play with no drumsticks, no drumsticks. He's just sitting there, so cool. I think it's great Like that to me is what when people talk about outlaw country, there are two things. One I think it's speaking out against the system. And I think that's part of speaking out against the system. Yeah, I don't think it's how you look, how many earrings you got, how many people you fist fight. I think the original outlaws were outlaws to the to what the system was. Yeah, totally. And I think Alan Jackson he doesn't get credit for that, but that's his outlaw of a country thing as you could possibly do. Yeah.

00:46:57
Speaker 3: I think for me, like, yeah, he's somebody just idolized for sure for that. I mean I also I was a Steve firl fan growing up and like that was that was a guy for me that felt like he was doing different than the industry was doing at that time, which I think is cool.

00:47:09
Speaker 1: I think you gotta be.

00:47:11
Speaker 3: A little different. And obviously now it's like people like to be sensitive, so you gotta be careful that people like to be sensitive.

00:47:17
Speaker 1: No. Yeah, as we talked about all, they had a couple other things for you, uh do No, No country music is it able to be shared here. This this part of the segment, give me your mount Rushmore favorite musicians of all time, artists of all time, But you cannot do anybody country, Cinderello, what really? Eagles? Is that your dad? You're my dad? My dad? Yeah? Wow you go hair like eighties? Yeah, classic glam rock types stuff.

00:47:44
Speaker 2: My mom was a huge you two.

00:47:46
Speaker 3: Something about the guitar tones in you two, I've always appreciated like a lot.

00:47:50
Speaker 1: So get Cinderella. I didn't mean to interrupt you with the Eagles.

00:47:53
Speaker 3: Eagles would just that, just like easy back Road, just favorite feels?

00:47:57
Speaker 1: O favorite Eagles song? Do you have one? I mean it's so typical. Probably take it easy. I mean, I know it's.

00:48:05
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think who else I liked?

00:48:08
Speaker 1: Oh this country music? Can't do that. We'll do country on the other side. I just don't want you to feel like you have to do all country people. Uh are we talking like it could be anybody? We're talking like old old or like still today. If you picked four artists right now that were your favorites of all time that weren't country Acon, Okay, but you're doing it. You did this song. Yeah, it feels like you're pandering a little bit, but I'm not. I'm not.

00:48:30
Speaker 3: I'm not even reaching for you to say that I legitimately know more Acon songs and can sing more Acon songs than any other ears.

00:48:37
Speaker 1: Do you think it's fair for me to respond and go okay, but you might be pandering? Sure, Okay, yeah, okay, I think it's fair. So you freedom of speech. Okay, Well, see that's a whole different thing. Give you one more.

00:48:47
Speaker 3: Um who else? Probably now I get and now I'm like tongue, you know, I get tied in. Probably guns n' Roses?

00:48:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, patients, Guns and Roses would be like one of my favorite songs of all time.

00:49:02
Speaker 1: How did you and Acon come together for the song? I just wrote it.

00:49:05
Speaker 3: I was hungover, was gonna do it on my own, try to you know, tease it on TikTok. Everybody was like, let's find who his manager is, try to send it, see what he says.

00:49:14
Speaker 1: And he said yes, And really was that easy?

00:49:18
Speaker 3: It took a minute, like a full time circle from the day I wrote it was probably a year.

00:49:23
Speaker 2: But didn't know what he wanted to be on.

00:49:26
Speaker 3: It meant like if he was just gonna add lib or whatever he wrote it, like that second verse he wrote himself.

00:49:29
Speaker 2: Which was cool. That's pretty cool, right, full circle for me, I mean to do the music video see him.

00:49:34
Speaker 3: I mean I was like the four year year old kid, like partying in the living room with an acon.

00:49:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty cool.

00:49:40
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00:49:54
Speaker 1: Okay, do country artists of all time? Gosh, Steve Oleman, he's my number one.

00:50:02
Speaker 2: I'm still somebody I haven't met.

00:50:03
Speaker 1: He was just inducted into the Operrey pretty recently, yeah, which is super cool. Much like the two nights before I played there, really and uh, they're all like, oh, we should have done something together.

00:50:12
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, well have you met him?

00:50:16
Speaker 1: I've met him at at the Opry. So everything at the Opry's brief, right, So I think I played the same night with that he played, and we and it was one of those hey man, big fan but so many people were big fanning him. Yeah, he probably would not remember meeting me, right, so officially yes, but but not really. Yeah.

00:50:34
Speaker 3: It's weird as like certain artists like I don't the whole like don't meet people thing.

00:50:38
Speaker 2: I don't believe that's.

00:50:39
Speaker 1: SINSI but he wasn't a jerk to me at all. No, no, no, I don't want that.

00:50:42
Speaker 2: I don't think so either.

00:50:42
Speaker 3: He's just like he's always for me, been like the guy like why like Guitar Town, Copperhead Road, Like I mean, gosh, so many Songs's got a song called Someday that is like to me just made me feel something as like super young.

00:50:56
Speaker 1: The fact that you said Guitar Town before Copperhead Road proves that you're an actual fan though, Dude, he's got songs that are yeah. Because if somebody goes I'm the biggest John Mayer fan. Your Body is a Wonderland is the jam that's my favorite. I'm like, you're not Elestate ticketyes me. Sorry guys.

00:51:12
Speaker 3: But and then I just like I loved, you know, I liked he was really it. Like I had his records, I had his CDs. That's all I could listen to. But then I like explored as I got older and was like George Strait and uh, Sam Alan Jackson, my grandma liked Johnny Cash.

00:51:31
Speaker 1: You know.

00:51:32
Speaker 3: And then I was in that era of like, all right, this is fgl and Thomas Rhett. And you know, my first song I learned on the guitar was it Goes like This by Thomas Rhett. And then I learned the Truth by Jason Eldan And that's kind of how it started for me.

00:51:43
Speaker 1: All right, last question in this little frame, what about your closest for country music artist friends right now? That's tough.

00:51:54
Speaker 3: It's like friends are well acquaintances. I always find it's interesting everybody's friends friends.

00:52:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you have any other artist like I would say, well, friend like real friends that I can call.

00:52:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say for sure, Like Bailey's one of the people. For sure you're saying in country music. Ella is somebody I just called her last week asking her for guidance.

00:52:16
Speaker 1: I think cool.

00:52:17
Speaker 3: So I would call those are really my can can be too, It's fine, probably deal under Cameron Marlow. Either two of those would be people that you know I like a lot.

00:52:25
Speaker 1: Chase Beckham is a dude that I don't know if you know Chase at all? Yeah, I know. Chase was on American Idol when I was on American Idol. Okay, I like mentored him no way, Yeah, so I mean, but in the way of Big Speed Show. He didn't need my help, right, But he was on the show when I was on I was on there for four years, and he was like one of the contestants I spent the most time with.

00:52:44
Speaker 3: Yeah, I tend to be more friends with the people that like want to do low key things that aren't music, and he's one of those guys where like he well, I just went to Broadway and went to Losers two nights ago and I had not gone in that long, and I went to Broadway to watch him play at Skydeck because I just think he's a great dude and I've like owed him we need to catch up, so.

00:53:03
Speaker 1: And he's like a guy who's really been through it.

00:53:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I again, like we will hang out and we don't talk about music, which is like why, Like Bailey's like somebody would call for like guidance, so what's going on or you know, depending on the guidance, you know, and then you got well, it's just you know, it's like I did my like one of my first tours with Bailey and like his rocket was like just going And I've learned a lot just from like what how that you know operates and he's such a great dude and how to look after people. And you know, whether he wants admit or not, there's probably been a lot of struggles along the way and I got to kind of be a part of that and see that and really appreciate that. So he's somebody like if something like crazy is going on, I would talk to But yeah, I mean I called l about some like mental health stuff, just like you know people like that.

00:53:54
Speaker 1: Yeah. I love Bailey and I When Bailey first started pop, Bailey grew up like I grew up very poor, And I said, hey, dude, you're getting money a lot faster than I did, Like mine was gradual and my success came this because he and he has admitted this now, he didn't know what a manager was or a record label and he's down here like interviewing them, but he didn't know what they were. Like it hit that hard in that fast, Yeah, And I said, dude, you're gonna want to go hard and I get it. The only advice that I will give you, because I think you have to live it out and learn it more so than just somebody telling you is don't get anybody pregnant. Yeah, that's the one.

00:54:30
Speaker 2: I think he's done a good job of that.

00:54:32
Speaker 1: I hope. I think that was the one piece of advice. I was like, whatever, dude, you can do with whatever you want. Yeah, don't get anybody pregnant. I mean I think that's the rule for all of us. Yeah, but everybody don't listen. I don't care about everybody else. Yeah, we let's see if answer. I'll see for answer real quick. Let's do unless you guys have like a secret feud.

00:54:49
Speaker 2: No, I don't know about No.

00:54:51
Speaker 1: If he answers, they're trying to FaceTime the last time. I think they're at a basketball game in La Okay. And then we'll wrap. If you how's your experience? Man? If you got a poll after this, it was like, hey, if you get a call, please give you a review. How would you review this? Comfort level out of ten probably probably eight or nine good good, good interview, ten out of ten good good good Here security four out of ten, No, you should fill secure. Let's say if he answers, knowing Bailey is probably gonna be like close off, run on a motorcycle in his boxers. He's got a poll, Now, what times are there? One?

00:55:33
Speaker 2: Twelve, eleven, ten?

00:55:34
Speaker 1: He might not be up yet on all, leave a message, video message, today's photoshoot. I think every day is a Bailey photoshoot. Yeah, okay, let's leave a message all one, Wait you can. I've never done this. You never left a video message? No, no, hey buddy, it's uh Bobby and Josh. What's up. We were just trying to call to see if you would answer, and if you did answer, we were gonna give a chair of your choice on hundred thousand dollars. But because you did, and we have to kill a puppy anyway, I hope you have a good day, man, see you later. Crazy all right, so wild not the puppy, Yeah, exactly, that's on him. That's not him. The puppy just died, all right. Hey Yeah, good to see you man. Dude again, we haven't spend any time together. We're both probably running. But I'm a big fan of what you've been doing musically. It's super cool. Thank you. It's hard for guys to to cut through and be different now, but I think you definitely have musically an element that is very original that I respect. Thank you.

00:56:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't always work, but at least I'm trying.

00:56:39
Speaker 1: To, you know, who cares if this always works? Just yea, this one's not gonna work, dude. Keep the line in the water. Yeah, that's it. I love it. Dude. All right, there is Josh who you peeceing too? Oh there's Bailey right there. Oh look Bailey, I'll go yo yo. We were just talking talking about you. Just see the message we left you.

00:57:00
Speaker 6: Oh no, I honestly saw your mistake. Was like immediately called you back.

00:57:05
Speaker 1: Are you California?

00:57:06
Speaker 6: Yeah?

00:57:07
Speaker 1: What are you doing out there? Oh?

00:57:09
Speaker 6: Dude?

00:57:09
Speaker 1: Just writing songs trying to get another album? Dude. Josh was talking about how I just asked him, like, who is legitimate friends? Like legitimate friends, and he mentioned to you as somebody like a real life human that he would call. Can you give me I don't know. Can you tell me what kind of guy Josh is? Because we're recording right now, so just tell like a real story, give me thirty seconds about like what Josh was. Like.

00:57:30
Speaker 6: I was on the road with Josh. He was on my religious flea the tour with me. And after being on the road with him and get to know him for real, he is the softest.

00:57:39
Speaker 1: Most feelings guy there. It is. He's a lover all he wants his love. All he wants is to be loved, and he's tired to get his heart broke. Okay, all right, all right, buddy, well I'll let you get back to it.

00:57:52
Speaker 6: Good guy, and to anybody and to any girl out there, he is his shirt if you feel it right now?

00:57:57
Speaker 1: Husband, material are you is pimp? This is yeah, I got pay.

00:58:02
Speaker 2: I'm paying him a commission, Bailey. I'll send you the commission, dude.

00:58:06
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, make sure you sendmo me.

00:58:09
Speaker 1: All right, buddy, good to see you, man, Bye, Bailey, I see I love it. Yeah, I love that dude. Man. All right, there he is. I'm Josh Ross.

00:58:17
Speaker 4: Everybody, thank you, thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production