Bussin' Hires Clay Matthews + Draft Day Prank Tell All & NFL Futures Predictions
Recorded: May 12th, 2025
In this can't-miss episode of Bussin’ With The Boys, NFL legend Clay Matthews hops on the bus with Will Compton and Taylor Lewan. Clay recounts his viral 2025 NFL Draft prank, where he took the stage in Green Bay and delivered a playful jab at the Chicago Bears, setting social media ablaze and cementing his reputation as a master troll.
The boys dive into his memorable on-field moments, including the time former Panthers QB Cam Newton famously called out Clay mid-game for being too obvious with his film study, and how that exchange became instant NFL lore. Clay also shares his perspective on Shedeur Sanders’s surprising slide in the draft, offering insight into the pressures and unpredictability of draft night. The boys break down rookie camp film of Cam Ward and his public appearance with the Savannah Bananas.
Rounding out the episode, the crew debates their divisional winners for the upcoming NFL season and gets real about the toll football takes on the body, with Clay opening up about his ongoing battle with a bad back.
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TIMESTAMP CHAPTERS
0:00 Intro
1:38 Larry O’Brien Is With Us
2:28 Clay is JOINING the boys
7:19 NBA Playoffs
12:38 Clay’s Sports Growing Up
15:42 Flag Football Juggernaut Coach
24:03 Coaching Your Kids/Getting Coached By Your Dad
29:54 Clay’s Draft Moment
40:17 NBA Final’s Memories
47:58 Mother’s Day Weekend
57:56 The Boys And Their Back Issues
1:06:29 Clay’s Issue With All-Inclusive Resorts
1:09:34 Clay's ULTIMATE Boy Move At The Draft
1:13:15 Shoutout Bo Free Shoutout
1:22:36 New QBs This Season
1:23:47 Clay's Reaction To Shedeur Sanders
1:29:49 Current NFL Contract Issues
1:39:08 Clay’s Thoughts On Packers Taking A WR
1:40:30 FanDuel Future Parlays
1:48:21 Clay vs Cam Newton
1:52:08 Bud Light - What Would You Do Anything For?
1:54:09 What Would You Get If You Won The PowerBall?
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00:00:05 Speaker 1: All right, We're good. 00:00:06 Speaker 2: You like go. 00:00:09 Speaker 3: Busting with the boss, hanging with the fans, betting on the game. No woman's gonna tell us what you do. Not be over here just drinking beer and making nine. 00:00:36 Speaker 2: Baby, I'm hanging. 00:00:38 Speaker 3: With the Fellers. He's busting with the boys. Bro. 00:00:46 Speaker 2: Welcome to episode three twenty eight of Busting with the Boys. We are brought to you by the number one sports in America, the Fan Duel Sportsbook. The NBA Playoffs are well underway, and if you think you know how it's all gonna go down, then make those predictions pay off with FanDuel. Whether you're riding with the Thunder or locked in with the Knicks. FanDuel has NBA profit boosts every day of the playoffs. That's a profit boost token on Tuesday, a profit boost token on Wednesday, another profit boost token on Thursday, and one more profit boost token on Friday, and we'll finish it out with a no sweat, same game parlay token for the weekend. You can't beat it. Yes, that's the Larry O'Brian Trophy. Simply make your bet, activate your boost, and go for even bigger winnings. Just head to FanDuel dot com slash busting to download America's number one sportsbook and get in on the action. FanDuel, the official sports betting partner of the NBA. 00:01:36 Speaker 4: Great read, thank you, Great trophy in front of your face. Larry O'Brien trophy is here. So how did this happen? Who reached out to who? Larry reach out to us? Larry, Larry himself sure. 00:01:47 Speaker 1: To reach out to us on one of my gmails, and then we made it happen. We hopped on a zoom call with the squad. And I love the NBA. When I was a kid, I loved the NBA more than any other sport. So to see it here dream come true. 00:02:00 Speaker 4: God, it's beautiful. 00:02:01 Speaker 2: Got to replicate all the photos of the trophy. 00:02:04 Speaker 4: Have to don't have a choice one way or the other. That thing, by the way, sneaky heavy, sneaky heavy thing right there, thirty pounds. The weight distribution is a little bit crazy. I'm very surprised Kevin Durant was able to lift that thing up after only doing one eighty five zero times. 00:02:18 Speaker 2: All the championship winners that have touched this trophy, it is. We're sitting with history right now, right and by the way, you know who else is a champion? Who's champion Clay Matthews. 00:02:29 Speaker 5: Guess Matthews, Yes, sir, yes, sir, Thank you. 00:02:32 Speaker 4: The great setup and there's something else is set up to massive news in the bust one with the Boys universe this fall the locker room, myself will Compton Delaney Walker and our fourth chair, consistent fourth chair will be none other than super Bowl champion with beautiful hair Clay Matthews as well and week out dude, fired up, fired Up. It turns into I meet you at a charity event. We talk. I have sparkles in my eyes talking to v Clay Matthews, the guy who gave you my Welcome to the NFL moment to get to you on the bus. You're so scared to come on the bus. You have to bring your brother one time. 00:03:12 Speaker 2: Then all of a. 00:03:13 Speaker 4: Sudden you get on. You come in the locker room. You loved it, You're about it, like I want. I know, we're just hanging out. This is just the boys hanging out today, but I do want to talk about like the process of having you come and like be a part of the locker room. 00:03:23 Speaker 5: With us, because it is awesome Yeah. Well, I mean, like I told you coming on the first time, I've always been real reserved with the media. I just I like to separate my public in private life. That's why I don't really speak about you know, my wife and kids and and kind of our day to day operations, which is the exact opposite of you guys. You got will farting in the mic. You know, you just doing your things. So but yeah, I man, what was great about the podcasting world and just being a part of this is it there It's a comfortable environment where you kind of just speak your mind. There's no producer in your ear talking about best dressed or you know, other hot button topics. 00:04:01 Speaker 4: Hey, thirty seconds, they're coming to you next you have a talk. 00:04:05 Speaker 5: Yeah. So and then I had I had a great time doing the locker room. It just I mean, you presented the offer to me, and I jumped on it. So I'm excited. I'm looking forward to it. I think it'll be a good uh good mix of the boys. 00:04:15 Speaker 2: Was it the little the little popper that brought you back? 00:04:18 Speaker 5: No, that made me want to demand uh, you know, compensation, guaranteed compensation. Yeah, yeah, but uh that's tonight yeah, we. 00:04:27 Speaker 2: Need some injury guarantees in this deal. 00:04:30 Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt. But it was awesome. Like having you on the first time and knowing you don't do a whole lot of media, it was just cool to kind of dive into that the USC world, the packers, all that stuff, and then to see your curiosity and then the locker room and then seeing how much like how prepared you are as a human. Like when we're hey, you should come in the locker room, we talk about bets. She's like, okay, what do we do? It's like, really, we just watched the games and we talked about who we think is gonna win next based on the odds for the next weekend. You came on did and you you just flood with the boys like it was nothing good. 00:04:57 Speaker 2: It was. 00:04:57 Speaker 4: It was great. 00:04:58 Speaker 2: You know who helps give give picks other than football? Who Clay does for the NBA? 00:05:04 Speaker 5: Well, my okay, so I mentioned this when we were on the locker my brother. No, I'm not, I'm not. 00:05:10 Speaker 2: Yeah, we can't talk about your brother. We have a guy. 00:05:13 Speaker 5: Oh all right, we'll just say we have a guy. We have a guy who gives me picks right between the lines here and he's a stud when it comes to the NBA. He stayed with us for Thanksgiving one time, him and his family. They're up there in Cleveland. But man, the amount of research, it's not just a gut feeling, the amount of research that goes into it. Minutes played against zone defense, first man, when going up against the seven foot defender, whatever it is in the NBA. And so he has some some parlays that hit. Now we we we've been unlucky lately, been unlucky. And then yeah, it's been tough lately. That's why the NBA is so difficult to predict. But but yeah, he's been helped me out with some bets. And then I gave I should have helped you with your UFC you know bets that you put out this weekend because I'm a big UFC fan. But man, that was That was a tough night for tough card. Tough card took a few losses, but we're gonna bounce back. 00:06:03 Speaker 2: Parlay lost right away. 00:06:04 Speaker 4: Yeah, the UFC, the UFC card and a i'll say names, Zaid Zai gave me that parlay. I reached out to day. Zaid is this cat from Chicago who's always in Vegas. When I'm in Vegas, he's like, Taylor, I got all the picks. I know, I know everything. And then every time I don't bet with him, and he's like, you should hit. I was seven for seven, blah blah blah. If he parlayed that, you bet ten one hundred dollars, there's a million dollars, all these different things. Then every time I do bet with him, it never works out. So Zay and I gotta do some sage or something like that. It's it's just not good. 00:06:31 Speaker 5: I would like you to come to me though moving forward, not to say that was gonna be right, but I'd like to give my impact. Yes, I'd like to give my input. 00:06:36 Speaker 4: So from here on out UFC series, every Ufcrian dual parlay that we put together, Clay Matthews will have his hand on me. Also, this interview is brought to us by bud Light, but Light is always brewed for with four simple ingredients for a clean Chris taste. 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I know they're down, you know they it's now two to one, but I think the Celtics are just that good in Annapolis is looking great right now, up three to one, but I think it's gonna be Boston again. 00:07:42 Speaker 4: Okay, how do you feel about that? 00:07:45 Speaker 2: I love his pick? I love love pick. Yeah. 00:07:47 Speaker 4: Like one of the reasons why you love that pick? 00:07:50 Speaker 2: My boy JJ reddicks out of it. The Lakers are out of it. So you know, I don't really have a dog in the fight. So I'm gonna lean on my dog Clay and our guy that we won't mention in their picks, because last week we did. He had a he had a He just drops every so often, he'll drop a parlay and he'll say, this is it, this is the one. 00:08:07 Speaker 5: Yeah, but then hey, he doesn't give up. He's not discouraged. 00:08:13 Speaker 2: Because even it was on Friday, and so it was like, let's all consolidate, We're all gonna do pizza Friday together to make sure this parlay hits. And I want to say, every leg except one did not hit. 00:08:22 Speaker 5: So it was it was close. 00:08:23 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was close. 00:08:24 Speaker 4: He always want every single one except for maybe the last one. 00:08:28 Speaker 2: Yeah. But I don't necessarily have a dog in the fight with the NBA. I'm more so just like watching the athletes, do you guys see. 00:08:33 Speaker 4: Uh, watching the athletes, just watching them boys around. 00:08:36 Speaker 2: What's what's his name? And yeah, Anthony Edwards him going up top. I didn't know he was only six three? 00:08:44 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, yeah, what college did he go there? 00:08:48 Speaker 2: I have no clue. 00:08:49 Speaker 1: Georgia, Georgia. Yeah, that dunk and the shout out to the Minnesota team, their social media team because they crush it with him. But Clay, how do you feel about it? 00:09:02 Speaker 5: I like him, I like him up your alley swagger. I like did you see the clip with when he was in front of Obama? Yeah, Ron talking about he's that man or that dude or whatever he said. I love it. I think they need more of that in the NBA. And then you saw him get after Lebron kind of pushing him a little bit. Oh here he goes. This is a great clip right here, just kind of showing his mentality. I feel like we don't get that enough anymore, at least viewership. You know, we're always trying to go to we these athletes are trying to go to the free throw line, you know, flopping and stuff, and I feel like a man. 00:09:33 Speaker 2: Is he's got some old school in him. 00:09:35 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:09:36 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a there's a conversations that always takes place around the bus, usually JP and Will about football and NBA and NBA guys could play in the NFL. What's your take on NBA guys playing in the NFL? NBA guys, can they do it at a high level? 00:09:53 Speaker 5: You mean, just like throwing them out there or if they like trained to become trained to because I thin them to become first of all, you have to have, you know, somebody who can take the hits. And I think that's that's hard to quantify, you know, without seeing what they what they can handle. But from an athletic perspective, absolutely, I think they could. 00:10:12 Speaker 4: Athletically, they could, for sure, but there's something different about football, the physicality of that, Like it's not it's not for everybody, right, you. 00:10:20 Speaker 2: Just can't do it. 00:10:20 Speaker 4: And you can't just take a guy just because all the athletic ability in the world and make him into something special. In the NFL, obviously the trophies here, I understand that, but I understand yeah, but I'm just saying. 00:10:33 Speaker 2: As the better athletes. 00:10:36 Speaker 5: Better athletes the NBA. You're talking about athletes though, like yeah, like who can jump higher? Yeah, that's NBA. 00:10:45 Speaker 4: Curious put a corner out there. 00:10:48 Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, there are some some elite athletes in the NBA. All of them are elite athletes because they're in the top one percent of their sport. But I've been coming around to yeah, maybe these guys do have some ship to them, especially Anthony Edwards. 00:11:01 Speaker 1: I'm telling you Russell Westover two people and yeah, Russell Westbrook turning back the clock locking down. Uh, SGA. I don't know if y'all saw that, but SGA probably league MVP. Russell Westbrook locks him down like end of game pretty much to seal the win. And Russell Westbrook is how old, like thirty four thirty five? 00:11:23 Speaker 2: No clue, he's thirty four to thirty five. 00:11:25 Speaker 1: Yeah, and locking down the best player in the league in the NBA play. 00:11:29 Speaker 4: It's so impressive. Hose guys played for so long. I feel like ten years is like the average in the NBA. Guys just go forever. 00:11:35 Speaker 1: And he's toward his acls like that's better. 00:11:38 Speaker 4: Than me, that is better than me. Yeah, I couldn't you boys messed around with YMCA in third grade, I had I was like one of the few kids that could shoot a three, one of the few kids. But that's that was it. That's as far as it went from me. 00:11:52 Speaker 2: Did you play any basketball growing up? 00:11:53 Speaker 5: I played? Uh? 00:11:55 Speaker 4: All right, we interrupt this episode to bring you something special, something spicy in the bedroom and that what is it? Rose sparks Roast sparks are two to one prescription treatment for guys who need a secret weapon against softness. Rose sparks can give guys bigger, thicker, longer erections because they get fuller after rose sparks dissolved. They work in fifteen minutes on average. 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I saw some some old video of you're getting where you're getting pinned or where you know. 00:13:02 Speaker 2: I was dog and the kid, Yeah yeah, hit him with a fake cut, let him up, no heading aside, cradled him. 00:13:10 Speaker 5: Yeah no. And then then as I went to high school and that ain't me, I started pictures houlding up a picture of you. That's not me, sat Clay Matthews. That's me on the right, and that's my brother Brian on the left. But anyway, I played basketball, but I developed late in high school and was getting tolate and I wasn't getting a burned, so I just just retired. 00:13:36 Speaker 2: Look at the football player, try to shoot a basketball. 00:13:38 Speaker 5: Great on defense though, no easy buckets. People are scared scared of the five fouls. 00:13:43 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's always our go to as well. It's like, oh, we can play some defense, we can play some we can set some screens. Yeah, dude. 00:13:49 Speaker 4: The wrestling thing is such a Midwest thing because I never never crossed my mind growing up in Arizona. But it is something you look at now. Like I've said this so many times in the show, but every time Will's put his hands on me and I think I'm gonna he throws me around. Even when I was like three ten, three fifteen, I would go and try to wrestle them, and he would just pick me apart. And this guy was on JV his senior year. 00:14:10 Speaker 5: Oh man, stop, okay, well I was a JV. We'll get back. 00:14:14 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:14:15 Speaker 4: Didn't you say you were JV your junior or senior year. 00:14:18 Speaker 2: No. Like when I first when my parents made me go back into wrestling, they said I could either be grounded for the winner or I could wrestle. So when I got back into wrests, sitcher crazy. At the very beginning of the year. They sent me to a JV tournament to like earn my stripes or like I had to stay back. I couldn't go on varsity. Went to the JV tournament, did not get scored on with the one of the worst hangovers of my life because I threw a party at the house the night before. Uh but that's the only time I was on I was on JV. Oh qualified for statement? 00:14:43 Speaker 4: Come on. 00:14:45 Speaker 5: But like you mentioned the body control, like the Sayers are offensive linemen who were former wrestlers. You'd just be like, all right, I'm like, you just can't put hands on them because they just they just baz. 00:14:55 Speaker 4: Yeah, get around them a little bit. Because the wrestling is my daughter, my youngest Willow. She's doing jujitsu right now, and then she kind of like wanted to get away from it for a little bit, and I was really pressing her, just hey, sweetie, I promise, like you just keep doing this, defend yourself. Now she's running around. We put kung fu pan on this weekend, and then yeah, she started throwing around some kicks and all these things. I was like, you want to learn karate? She's like yeah. I was like, jiu jitsu is the way to go. She's like, I'm back. So we had like three week hiatus and now we're getting back into it on Tuesday, which fires me up because my oldest there's just not a competitive bone in her body. 00:15:28 Speaker 2: She doesn't have it. 00:15:29 Speaker 4: She doesn't have the stuff, which is heartbreaking because for me, I mean, we all grew up in sports. We all grew up in like you go, you play every single sport depending on what season it is, and then you just roll onto the next one over and over again. With my kids that are like I got my daughter in soccer, didn't care for it. They love like art and music and all these different things, which is great. But now I'm as a father, Like I'm out of my wheelhouse. I need to find something. 00:15:51 Speaker 5: So we gotta we gotta stud flag football team. I've got two girls on our on our team, we're you know, accepting of all genders and uh, you know, we got a good little squad. They're coached up. We got one more game and then playoffs this weekend. Really we're going to be back to back. 00:16:10 Speaker 4: What's the what's the age group we're talking about here. 00:16:12 Speaker 5: Like five six yeerals, it's it's considered pre K, but. 00:16:18 Speaker 2: You're gonna move up with them as they get older. 00:16:20 Speaker 5: Yeah, because that's that's my My youngest is in that. And uh, it's like you had mentioned that was the first time. I don't know if I had mentioned this last time, but coaching them where I felt that yeah, adrenaline, that rush. It was this first game like a year ago, year and a half ago, we won on like a touch Now I'm being honest, like we won, Like yeah, I told my wife that, I'm like, this is why people get back into coaching, because you just have this wealth of knowledge that you want to give to everybody. And that's where I'm at, like, like I love coaching these kids. I coached them hard. 00:16:56 Speaker 2: You know. 00:16:57 Speaker 5: The first thing I tell them is like, we're gonna win. Like I don't. I don't like the coaches who let's have a good time. It doesn't matter if we know we're out here to win, we're out here to be great. Let's let's let's take advantage of our time, like they will develop the skills. And then I got to lean on the dogs on the team, like my son and the other ones. You know, I'm just saying like who do Yeah, he's a dog. 00:17:20 Speaker 2: Or is it like that's the coach's son. 00:17:22 Speaker 5: There's no, okay, he's he's got that dog. 00:17:26 Speaker 2: It's a meritocracy. 00:17:27 Speaker 5: But he's six years let's take that with a grain of salt. But he knows what's being asked him. I always talked to him like I try and talk to him like a man at six years old, like, hey, these other kids are looking up to you. You know they might be in pre k you know, for what are these So I need him to be the example the role models. So I'm just trying to set the tone moving for But I'm not like I got a preface this and say I'm not that sports dad, like I'm not. I'm not that Like, my kids have fun you right there and the parents. No, and the parents have fun too, and we have fun by winning, learning the game, building car, confidence, having respect. Everything that you would hope that your your child would be would be taught from you know, a coach, a role models, a kid. 00:18:07 Speaker 2: Or has there been a kid that hasn't wanted to play sports. 00:18:10 Speaker 5: On our team in your family? Oh yeah, my oldest is probably the same as your daughter, where he's like we you know, we try to mountain soccer, just being like nah. But he's he's he'll probably you know, build spaceships or something like that like Elon, or he's loving fishing right now. I think they've got some fishing uh you know clubs out here, which we didn't have on the West Coast. So yeah, he'll find his niche. But I tell my kids like, I don't care what you do. Like my daughter, you know, she does play basketball on some other sports, but she loves gymnastics and dance. I'm like, just be the best at it. Just be the best at whatever it is you do, and you'll be fine in life Like that. That's that's all that comes back to be the best podcasters. You know whatever it is, like, you will have success. It doesn't. You don't have to play football, you don't have to play sports, but naturally, like I gravitate towards that because that's what I did as a kid. Just be the best. 00:18:56 Speaker 2: So your son he doesn't play any. 00:18:57 Speaker 5: Sports my oldest, no are you don't keep the playing sports? 00:19:00 Speaker 2: If he didn't like. 00:19:01 Speaker 5: It, well, listen, I mean like kind of like my dad told me, if we start something, we finish it. But if you don't want to play after the season, that's fine. 00:19:08 Speaker 4: That's that's the move. 00:19:09 Speaker 2: That is the move. 00:19:09 Speaker 4: Because when I put my oldest in soccer, it was very very quick. She was like, I don't this is not really my back. And I just told her, you're doing the whole season, right, and we're going to go every single time. I'll go with you every single time, but we have to go like you have. Your team's waiting on you, they're relying on you. And so once she was done with the season, it was over. But sometimes to finish the. 00:19:27 Speaker 5: Season, well, my son, my youngest who you know, his first game playing flag football. He played two snaps and cried the whole time on the sideline as I'm trying to coach him, send him off to his mom, you know, do this, and now he can't get enough, like when's the next game? He's you know, he's he just loves you know, sports, loves football right now. So I think that comes from confidence as well. 00:19:45 Speaker 4: So how does how does you take your kids? Who plays two snaps, cries, goes to his mom to now he loves it? Like, well, how did you work on that? Because that's maybe where I need to fill in the gap a little bit, is I don't know how hard to push or how hard to push. 00:19:58 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's consistency because every time I push too hard, then I you know, you're like I go too hard, And if I'm too soft, I'm like, oh, I'm being soft on him. So I think we all have that internal you know, kind of tug of war of parenting. But I think just consistency and giving your kid kind of the resiliency and courage to have confidence, you know, that confidence, because I think that's what it stems from. My kids tend to shut it down when they don't have confidence when they're in a new environment. So it's just filling them with that, like you know, like you can do this, You're going to be all right, Everything's okay. And then as they start to do it, you know, they get better at and they learn to like it and they learn the example. So yeah, I mean we're having a good parenting talk, right. 00:20:38 Speaker 4: Yeah, it is good because it is like just fighting to the fringe of the insecurity and fear wether than you do it. My daughter, they they had a World Day at school where they all had they did My daughter did Panama. She had to make a whole thing for the animals in there. And then she's talking to me the night before about there's going be four hundred people that I have to perform in front of and her and I are going through her whole thing. Then her mom gets home from like a little like an outing for Nature and Nurture Company, and I find out it's like everyone just goes into a room and the parents kind of walk around and like, look, oh that's real nice, and then you kind of keep going. But when was like trying to dial in all the different animals, all the different things to the point we're up we're up to like ten thirty, and she's like, so, nurse, I was speaking from people. She's like have you ever spoken in front of people before, like sweetheart, especially a couple of photos. This is me at the Grand Ole Opera. You know, they starts showing her some stuff. But it is like the pushing part to me, I worry about because I don't want them to like get pushed so far that they kind of just shit the bed when it like it happens, so it's war. 00:21:33 Speaker 1: You might need to put Willow on his team. 00:21:35 Speaker 5: That's what I was Yeah, that's what I was alluding to it at the beginning, is like we you know, they're still at the age where they put the boys and girls together before they separate them. And obviously it means nothing to the boys right now, but there's a part of me that loves it when our when our girls get after it. 00:21:49 Speaker 2: On the team. 00:21:50 Speaker 5: Yeah, like yeah, I love it. 00:21:51 Speaker 4: You know Will's will is definitely she has more coordination right now than when Winds like built like me, Like she just still got that baby deer movement, like she kind of doesn't know how to run on her kick or throw. Willow for whatever reason, just picks it up a ghosts, so she might Yeah, we look into it. 00:22:07 Speaker 5: Well, we're just finishing up so we'll have to get you on the fall end. Yeah, yeah, tryout to try out. 00:22:11 Speaker 2: To Clay's too young. 00:22:14 Speaker 4: You're looking for an old line coach. 00:22:15 Speaker 1: Have a play up. That's how you get back and do that. 00:22:16 Speaker 5: All we have is five. 00:22:18 Speaker 2: It seems like this is a squad we got, you know, with it. 00:22:21 Speaker 5: And I enjoy it. I really enjoyed this. 00:22:22 Speaker 2: We need to get under the mentorship of a Clay Matthews now be the example. Yeah. Yeah, he's asking us, Oh yeah, you're trying to build a Are you gonna move up with him? Are you going to stick the five and six year olds? 00:22:33 Speaker 5: Trust me? 00:22:34 Speaker 4: Could you imagine Clay's kids just like fifteen, sixteen years old, and he's like still with the five and six year olds, he might be just a random five and six year olds. 00:22:41 Speaker 2: That's what uh Luke and them are doing. Yeah, they're with Olsen's kid right there. Their kids like they grow, they go up with them every time. I remember they're in middle school right now. But when they get the high school, it's almost like the high school's gonna get fired and they're gonna come in and take over. You got to know the high school. 00:22:56 Speaker 5: That's what my dad did So when my dad retired, I was in and I think I just finished fifth grade, you know, somewhere in fifth grade, and he took over as coach. He might not have been the head coach, might have been decoordinated, whatever it is, but he stayed with us the whole time, and we just, you know, you just have that same group of kids who goes through an NFL, you know, mindset of how to run. I mean we were running like zone blitzes in high school, just off you know, offense is just just putting a menacing. 00:23:21 Speaker 4: Yeah, you were basically your dad was the first day on Sanders. 00:23:25 Speaker 5: I mean the first thing I love. I love coach Prime, but I think they're two very different. But yeah, with the whole entire time in respect, yeah, he was. He was with us the whole time. And then as soon as I graduated, he went to my other brother and then went to his high school and worked his way up. And they always had great teams and they were they were coached well I mean coaching, so no doubt about it. Yeah, I mean, well they were. 00:23:48 Speaker 4: Yeah in high school. Did you see guys with technique in high school? It's like what are they? 00:23:52 Speaker 5: Who they working? 00:23:52 Speaker 4: With had a guy in high school with me. His name is Craig Row played at Michigan with me. But he was a kid in high school that like actually had takenique in coordination. He was a d ND and he would just know the body and he wasn't like the most physically gifted guy in the world, but he was a stud. And I was like, where is he getting this because we're all kind of just running around out there still even in high school. So there he is. 00:24:14 Speaker 2: The coaches kid too, has always got kind of a leg up initially when they're young. I wouldn't. 00:24:18 Speaker 5: I wouldn't. Oh, I'm sorry, I thought you were. I thought you were, you know, just in the way that you are taking you know, digs at it. I was about to say, no, no, you're right, You're right in that regard, because you know, they just they live it, you know. But I felt like there was times when I was in high school where like my dad was just ruthless with not ruth as I shouldn't say that won't get a better rat but just like he had to make sure he wasn't showing me preferential treatment. So it was always, you know, you gotta work a little bit hard. You get treated a little bit different. Same goals with my kid at this age. It's like, obviously you build him up when they have good times, but you just you know, other kids are goofing around. You yell at your kid for like the one in there. Yeah, you know, try and tighten him up. 00:24:55 Speaker 4: In California, do you have to be a part of like the school staff to be a coach as well, or you can just kind of come in. 00:25:01 Speaker 5: No, well I'm not sure how his public versus private, But no, my dad wasn't a part of the wasn't wasn't a part of the staff, So I'm not sure how that worked. And he didn't take a salary or something. Yeah, just like showed up, just showed out all doubt. 00:25:13 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just always having to perform in front of your old man too. 00:25:17 Speaker 4: Yeah, you got to give him the whole like you're gonna be treating how you treat the team speech. Yeah, that's the first thing you have. 00:25:22 Speaker 2: With the kids. 00:25:23 Speaker 5: That was tough because, like you know, naturally every kid thinks they know more than their father. And you know, when dad played nineteen years and I'm like, I just didn't want to hear and it wasn't until even going to college, Like it took a while for me to be comfortable with him watching me and all that. I don't know if you guys ever went through that, like having your having your dad come and watch and being embarrassed or you know, just not wanting to let him down. 00:25:43 Speaker 2: So and then they want to talk to you, like after the game, and you kind. 00:25:46 Speaker 5: Of just like whatever day, yeah, exactly. 00:25:49 Speaker 2: Very short answers, kind of your body language just kind of turned away from him high school. 00:25:52 Speaker 4: I figu you're more receptive because you know your old man played high school ball. 00:25:55 Speaker 5: So you think, like, here's the opposite for me. Because in the NFL, where I was like, Dad, let's let's talk, yes, talk like I need help. 00:26:02 Speaker 4: Right, My dad would come to me when I was in the NFL and be like, maybe you should do that, but we're gonna be all right, Dave, don't worry, and I have to go fine, I'll go to my coaches. 00:26:11 Speaker 2: I enjoyed talking to my dad more like when I was playing it, not even in college, but the NFL. But yeah, if he brought up schematics or technique. 00:26:19 Speaker 4: So do you think about punching with the outside on first and then I'm like, Dave, no, I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that. The dad though, how was your dad like, I'm always bringing this up his Will. I remember I tore my a cl and I went to Will's house and then Will's dad spent two hours telling me how much of a glue guy willis, like boasting about in Will the best any awesome. I'm like thinking, like, I think my. 00:26:42 Speaker 2: Career is over. 00:26:43 Speaker 4: I'm so sad and I just want to hang out my boys. But was your dad like the proud dad or was he like it could always be better dad? 00:26:50 Speaker 5: I think it was somewhere in between. I don't think he obviously he let me know, you know, when I did a good job, you know, postgame, traveling to the games and whatnot. And then you know, he was always he was always careful about tiptoe and that like, hey, can I can I offer you know, like he didn't want to insert himself, knowing that I'd probably have. You know, me and him are so much alike, were so like I got this, but at the same token, like one has to want to receive, you know, that type of coaching, so to speak, parenting. So he was always like he can I offer something? Yeah, sure, Dad, let's go like tell me. So he was good about that. But at the same token, you know, I mean, it wasn't like he was telling me it was never enough or you know, telling him I'm not to say that's not the right thing. You should have all the confidence in your son, you know, talking about me for two hours just like oh, yeah, he's a good career, that type of guy. 00:27:36 Speaker 4: I just yeah, nineteen years in the NFL. That is insane. 00:27:39 Speaker 2: But that was proud man. Yeah. 00:27:41 Speaker 4: I kind of reflected, like smile about it. 00:27:44 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like you said, nineteen Yeah, he played nineteen years in the league. It's like my dad didn't so him seeing his boy, like, yeah, he's a proud he's a proud the same way. 00:27:56 Speaker 5: Well, I always got these these times where I go home and you know, I just I like to reflect and think. And you had posted, you had posted like a tweet or an you know whatever post on X talking about how you were a free agent and you played what nine allegedly ten years, Like that's remarkable, dude, I truly mean that, like to go from a you know, a free agent to playing that many years is impressive because you know, as a first round pick, like you're kind of handed the keys, like don't screw it up. You get a guaranteed four or five years and you know you got time to develop. But as a free agent anyway, I just want to tell you a good job. Man, that's awesome. I actually thought about that and I was like, man, that's that's impressive. You know that's impressive you. 00:28:33 Speaker 1: I was waiting for the butt I was taking about to kill. 00:28:40 Speaker 4: This man in the second. 00:28:41 Speaker 5: Good job. 00:28:42 Speaker 4: Receiving that compliment takes Man, you did a good job with that. 00:28:44 Speaker 5: You're the best. 00:28:47 Speaker 2: I'm gonna need that clift too, and I'm gonna send to my old man. Heye deck clean Matthews. 00:28:51 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, we're more Ray maunt Luga fan. 00:28:54 Speaker 2: If we interrupt this episode, if you are currently taking it two, then this ad is for you. Are you fumbling the ball when it comes to getting a caminite clean back in your end zone? Make the right play, call an audible and switch from dry toilet paper to wet extra large dude wipes. Why it's simple, Wetter just cleans better. Dude wipes are wet and extra large so they clear never smear your rear. 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But yeah, thank you. 00:30:02 Speaker 4: I need to receive the yeah due to the draft was great, great execution. It was amazing than the whole I had no idea. I saw you come out in that bike, I saw you stand behind Goodell. I'm thinking to myself, good company, man, he's doing this thing right now, and obviously we saw you right before, yeah, and then going to do the speeches you did. Can you just run down that process a little? 00:30:27 Speaker 5: Yeah, man. So I was, well, I'll just go back to the beginning. So I don't know where you people are, Like where'd you call them with that idea to you know, uh, you know, mentioned Trump and then Bear still suck. So my agent, you know, I was going to be out there, you know, some endorsement opportunities, appearance opportunities. Light bud Light was one of them, Shadow bud Light, and they had asked if I wanted to come up, come up on stage, much like last year's in Detroit, two years ago in Kansas City. So I looked at last year's and it was like Calvin Johnson, Barry Sanders, Aidan Hutchinson, Jared Goff, you know, and I thought it was like obviously got a mixture of legends and current players, and but they all went up there and they just screamed into the mic, you know, and I was just like, I don't really just want to get up there and be like you baby, make some noise. I was like, let's make this memorable. So I don't know where it came from, but I ran it by my wife. I go bit, you know, she's always the voice of reasoning, obay, what do you what do you think about this? You know, and she's like, yes, you need to do this. So she's the master at photoshop. So I went online and search for some letterhead with you know, his President Trump's signature on it, and so she was like, we need it bigger, we need this. We need to make it look like handwriting if you're going to hold it up. So she was, she was behind it, and she did a great job right there. But anyways, I didn't tell anybody because I knew the NFL wasn't gonna improve it. You know, I knew just you know, just in today's political climate. You mentioned ones, you know, political affiliation left right, Like it's just not going to go over well with with the NFL. So I I man, I was, I was nervous. Backstage, I was with Jordi am on Green, James Jones made some crosby, Lil Wayne showed up back there, and meanwhile everyone's had I'm just because I'm you know, I got this envelope that I'm whole and just shaking because I didn't know, and they didn't know. I didn't There wasn't so there was a bunch of stuff going probably overthinking things. But I go listen, this is a live event. They could cut me off if I go too long past fifteen twenty seconds, you know. So they had asked me, Hey, is there anybody who wants to go up there and say some things like last year? So I kind of, you know, Mason and Georgia like, I'm not gonna do that. I'll get it. I'll get him going, boys get I'll get them going, you know. So I kind of fit in, but I didn't know where I was gonna fit in with Lil Wayne and whatnot as. 00:32:35 Speaker 4: Far as when he was just a wild wrinkle him out there. 00:32:38 Speaker 5: We just showed up. So I'm like, well, is he gonna say anything? I just thought like he should have at least, you know, like Eminem did last year, like he should have. He just kind of came up there. But anyway, so then yeah, the opportunity just kind of opened itself and I just I pulled this piece of paper out and just and it it went overwhelm. It went overwhelmed. My brother, who I you know, Kyle, who was on here with me last time he tent out of ten execution, delivery, everything was on point, so I was I was happy with how it landed. The boys all behind me, they enjoyed it. They had no idea, so they were, you know, equally as fired up. And then you know, anytime you can take a chance to put the Bears down, you know, yeah, you gotta take it. So one of the what I went, I went. Then I went backstage. I'm like, oh, and I gotta face I got to face the wrath of Godell and everybody else. But they were immediately, they were super cool backstage. I was like, you know, I kind of half heartedly apologized while laughing. I said, hey, you know, I'm sorry, Like I knew you were going to prove it, but this and that, and so Roger was like, I just I didn't want to laugh when I was, because you know, I didn't want him to seem like he was he knew what was happening, complicit whatever you would call it. And but they were all like, there was a few hat me, you know, because I had the sheet. They're like, let me get a picture of you with this. So they were super cool with about it. Yeah, so it was good. It all went over. I told I'll probably never be invited back again, but yeah, it was cool. 00:33:52 Speaker 2: And then when you're riding the bike out there, like how nervous are you? 00:33:56 Speaker 5: I was so nervous because I told them like in a week before, like are you opening to riding a bike out there? And I was like, nah, I don't want to ride a bike like I got my wife put me in these tom Ford pants beautiful, you know, like super super tight, you know, got these loafers on and so, but everyone else was doing I don't need one guy to walk my bike out. I wrote it out there, But yeah, I was nervous not to be on stage, but just to deliver something that I that, like, like I was just fired up for, but that nobody knew. So I was like, I just hope it comes goes over as well as my wife thinks it's gonna come over. I think you did. And then then the response I got from it was was great too, because I'm like, oh, this is a dig at the Bears. Right. Well, then it turned political, you know it's like you know Trump, like I've lost all respect for Clay you know this and that and all right, but I was happy. 00:34:41 Speaker 6: I went over, well, yeah, you're not going to please them all, but exactly, well, it wouldn't have worked with anybody else, Like it's just the joke wouldn't have worked because I watched your guys, you know, your time up there in Green Bay. 00:34:54 Speaker 5: And when I went up there, you know, you're you're filming yourself, and you hear me talk about you know, Donald Trump, You're like, oh no, I give a sense I sensing you. You're like, you're one hundred percent he's gonna bomb or he's gonna like now is not the time, you know. 00:35:05 Speaker 4: Like when you're about to plant your flag in the mega world, And I thought, this is a crazy time to do that. 00:35:11 Speaker 5: Yeah, I could just tell he was right about every day shat it. 00:35:19 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:35:19 Speaker 5: But yeah, that's that's why I worked because I had you, I had you out here, I had you out here. 00:35:23 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:35:23 Speaker 5: So I had fifty percent going, don't make it political. I got fifty percent going what did he say? 00:35:28 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I. 00:35:29 Speaker 5: Take it a whole different. 00:35:32 Speaker 4: In the pause too, like I just have the phone with Donald Trump. He has a letter, let's see what it says. And you took the time to open it up. So everybody in the rooms like holding their breath, like, fuck, what is about to happen. You had a bunch of guys probably like what's he gonna fuck boys out there? And then you for you to do that, like it was the ten out of ten delivery. 00:35:49 Speaker 5: It was awesome. 00:35:50 Speaker 2: It was the Trump catch wind of it. 00:35:52 Speaker 5: I'm assuming it's funny because my mom I talked to her. I got home that night and uh she called me and you know, oh my gosh, like we were we were delayed. You know, Dad pushed pause and you know, something was happening, and so their phone started blowing up there and like some of their Chicago friends are like, not cool, you know what happened? And so they were just they were they were they were laughing. They were thinking it'shysterical. But my mom was like, do you think President Trump's going to see this? And I was like, no way, Like he's got I mean we're over there talking about tariffs and the Middle East and stuff. I go, no way. And then you know, so the next night, Friday night, it's like ten PM and Washington number text me and I said like, hey, this is so and so with President Trump, Like I think it's it's his like right hand girl who does all the tweeting and whatnot. And he delivered a nice text something along the lines of, you know, you delivered your speech with the same fiery approach that you took to the game. I was like, oh yeah, So I let it sit that night because I was like, I don't know if I'm getting pranked or whatnot. So the next day, the packers pr was calling me saying, hey, certain someone wants to get in touch with you. So I just replied back and I wrote something nice to him, and and uh, He's like, all right, you know, stay in touch. I was like, but like, listen, we won the super Bowl when Obama was in office, and and Obama his wife Michelle, her brother, I believe, was like the Oregon basketball coach or women's basketball and I met him, so he you know, he shook everybody's hands and was like, you know, nice to meet you them. When he saw me, you know, it's the whole key and key and pel sketch like that. I think, yeah, I want to say he dapped me up. We got to look back through the archives, but he was so cool, Like he was so cool, just like knew about my family history, knew about my brother going to Oregon, and I was like, man, this is this is great. Anytime you have the now here's me, you know, anytime you have the the ability, the opportunity, I should say to like meet the president, like it's it's awesome. 00:37:49 Speaker 4: You take it as you get so so. 00:37:53 Speaker 5: It was awesome. It was the joke landed, you know, made a contact out of it, made a friend and we carried on. 00:38:00 Speaker 2: When you met Obama? Had you was the key and peel sketch before Obama? 00:38:05 Speaker 5: I think it was after, it was after? Yeah, I have no clue, but I just wanted to know what side. 00:38:10 Speaker 2: I'm wondering if it's like in your head the sketches out there, like is he gonna try and shake my head? I'm gonna make it known that we're dat. 00:38:16 Speaker 5: I was reading his enterancy, you know. Yeah when he had the little laugh you know, like and the hey, and the hand was up, yeah, the elbows up by yeah Obama. 00:38:26 Speaker 4: He understood. Man, the whole thanks Obama thing, he like he like leaned into that as well. When everyone was like thanks Obama, did everything inflation so high? 00:38:34 Speaker 2: Thanks Obama? 00:38:35 Speaker 4: That and he had this bit where he had a giant cookie and a glass of milk, and the COOKI wouldn't fit in the glass of milk. He's like, thanks Obama. He had a whole bunch of stuff like that, and then the dapt thing I got. I got hands shook by Obama. One time it was me, Donard Robinson and Patrick o'mama. He was doing a commencement speech at Michigan and he dapped up Patrick o'mammy. Black guy dapped up Denar Robinson. Black guy gave me the stern white guy. Yeah, so we are not on the same level. 00:39:01 Speaker 5: Did you have you show though? 00:39:02 Speaker 4: I think I was wearing like a blue Michigan collared shirt and khaki pants and he's like this, yeah, cat clean, Yeah, old linemen walked up. Nice to meet you, Nice to meet you, sir. Absolutely so I got, I got the handshake. Went up this episode to bring you simply safe. 00:39:18 Speaker 5: What are we trying to keep safe? 00:39:19 Speaker 4: Out their kids? We're trying to keep family safe. Kids say if new car, garage, everything the whole kit kamboodle, as they say, traditional security systems only take action after someone has already broken in. 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We got to make sure we stay safe, and we stay safe with simply Safe. Big hugs and kisses. Back to the episode. 00:40:29 Speaker 2: I know we only have a lot of amount of time with our Larry O'Brien trophy, but your guys is fondest memory to the NBA Finals. 00:40:38 Speaker 4: You know, it was actually looking up stuff before this episode on different NBA Finals stuff. But the thing that comes to mind the most is Lebron's down three to one, yeah, and coming back and winning it. That's to me, there's money. 00:40:51 Speaker 2: Yeah. We were in Mexico when I was watching those games, and that was electric. Everybody's everybody's packed around the TVs at the bar and seeing them come back as when they went down three to one and then ray Allen bangs at three to kind of ignite them coming all the way back, that that was electric. 00:41:08 Speaker 1: Might be mixing together finals? 00:41:10 Speaker 2: Yeah, am I mixing together finals? Yeah? 00:41:12 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're thinking of with Miami. When ray Allen hit a three three to one, was with the. 00:41:17 Speaker 4: Calves because that was his first year. He came back from Miami, right, Yeah, came back and went with the Calves and one of the. 00:41:24 Speaker 5: Yeah you're thinking of Kyrie though, when I hit that three to Okay, that was that the game was. 00:41:29 Speaker 1: That was I don't think it was the last game, but it was a game seven. 00:41:34 Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, I guess the Warrior block. 00:41:39 Speaker 1: Yeah, because Lebron. That's that's right, Lebron. 00:41:41 Speaker 2: Because that was the year the Warriors had like the like arguably the best regular season of all. 00:41:46 Speaker 1: Timer seventy three and nine. 00:41:47 Speaker 4: Yeah, which is insane crazy, That is crazy. 00:41:50 Speaker 2: Other than that, I think of like when m J was playing back in the nineties, like because Space Jam it came out. 00:41:56 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I don't think I recognized how great MJ was until The Last Dance came out because I was taking a think in a way to like, how do we bring up who's our goat? And my my answer would be Michael Jordan. But the only reason why I bring up that answer is because it would be because the Last Dance. The Last Dance was one of the best documentaries I've ever seen in my entire life. 00:42:13 Speaker 5: I love when former players give, Like I always enjoy seeing former players give like Jordan his his praise or flowers or his prop same with Kobe. It's fun to watch, you know because as a fan of the game, and I hope when it's all said and done, because you know, when football it's tough. It's like, you know Taylor was, you know, I beat him a couple of two. You know, it's like we have such an ego. It's always nice when you know, you see the guys on like the TNT de desk or whatnot kind of let their guard down, so to speak, and you know, give praise to other great players. It's fun to watch as a fan, Like you only hope that the NFL can tee because I just find like in the NFL world, everyone's so guarded that, you know, we're always so worried about. 00:42:51 Speaker 4: The pastring always going on. 00:42:53 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:42:53 Speaker 5: Yeah, Like it was like that that interview you did with like Luke Keikley. I was like watching that, like, dude, that was like, what a great guy. Now, you know, I'm just sitting here like, dude, great guy. Like I just you know, you want to give someone their flowers and their praise and stuff. That's just just a separate I wonder. 00:43:07 Speaker 2: And taking the approach too of like you just being a fan of the game and realizing it's like you know, anytime we've had you on a being around you out like I mess around with you. But it's like appreciating the game and art that you had on the field. I love to refer to it as art. But just giving guys their praise like you are a fan because we were all we were all those little kids growing up watching these players play just because you played with them against them where they're older and you younger and you same age, it's like it's still the same approach. I feel like people mess with that because again, your fans watching the game, and when you see other greats or other players that are sitting there taking it from like the fan perspective and just appreciating it, because it's like, uh, yeah, your ego getting the way of like throwing some flowers somewhere right right, and he guess what, you just want to be like, yeah, I played pretty good. 00:43:50 Speaker 4: Right, Especially when you're playing like you you feel like you shouldn't give it. I don't know if you feel like you shouldn't get people flowers, but like the thought of giving somebody else flowers, like it almost takes away from you when it shouldn't be that way at all. Because you see these X basketball players and they do definitely give more flowers than like football players do. And then Keithley coming on, I'm just watching this guy like he was the ultimate team guy. Just the way he's talking. Is he so accomplished that he's not worried? Or is it was he always this way? Because the way he even talks about his career, It's. 00:44:17 Speaker 2: Like, Bro, you don't. 00:44:18 Speaker 4: You don't understand, Like how good, how fucking good you were. He was incredible. Even when he had concussions and he couldn't be physical anymore, he was just as productive, like keeping his head out of everything, which to me is impossible. Yeah, to be able to transition. 00:44:31 Speaker 2: Like that, even just giving this teammates as flowers too, Like it could have been so easy for him to talk about how they checked to two there and not really brought up Thomas Davis, but how he goes into each guy and how it made the play work and everything else. It's, yeah, it was. It was awesome, JP. I know you're a big NBA guy. Your fondest memory of the NBA Finals. 00:44:55 Speaker 1: Every actually comes from one of my dreams because I'm a big Heat fan. And in this dream, I guess I was in college, but I'm in the huddle, I'm on the team, and it's Coach Spoe. He's he's coaching us, and we're drawing up the final play. We're down by two and we're all thinking it's going to Lebron and Coach Poe is like, no, JP, it's coming to you. D Wade is gonna inbound, Lebron is gonna set the screen at the top of the key, You're gonna come around the screen, You're gonna bang it home, and we're gonna bring a championship to a three oh five. I was, all right, let's do it. Knock it down, knock down the three get lifted up on Lebron and d Wade's shoulders and legit. My dream ends as I'm like walking out or on their shoulders with the trophy and just like this is the greatest day of my life. And then I wake up and how to go to class. I'm not aware of what I just accomplished, but that's one of my favorites. That is beautiful growing up, I mean, so many summers like June. I feel like the NBA Finals to me is summer growing up where like June hits, you're out of school, you're with all your friends, you're watching it's hopefully a great series, and we had so many good series growing up, so that. 00:46:06 Speaker 5: A little emotional back there. That's good. Yeah, that was a great, great dream. I remember growing up in LA just walking watching the Lakers Kobe Shack even before them, Nick nam Xul but I remember big shot Bob Robert Orry nailing down a three. I want to say it was against the Kings or something that was always a heated rivalry versus the Kings Vlade Divac but uh yeah, who was uh Derek Fisher too hitting that shot against Was it San Antonio with point point something seconds? 00:46:37 Speaker 2: Like? 00:46:37 Speaker 5: Just lots of good memories. 00:46:40 Speaker 2: NBA. 00:46:40 Speaker 5: It's fun to watch. 00:46:42 Speaker 4: I gotta get into it more. 00:46:43 Speaker 2: We would have. 00:46:44 Speaker 4: I gotta be more intentional about watching the NBA. 00:46:46 Speaker 2: And Nebraska, like when we were doing the summer training and everything else, like be in June and all the guys would get together. It was back back when Lebron was young and they had that series, remember against the against the Spurs. 00:46:57 Speaker 1: Yeah, when they just started killing him. 00:47:00 Speaker 2: Yeah, Bro, they were killing him because you're either just like now, you're either pro for Lebron or you're against Lebron. 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I didn't get a card, and I was like trying something new. And last night she was fired up on it. She's like, I really appreciate the way you did this Mother's Day. 00:48:55 Speaker 2: Was what was to trying something new? 00:48:57 Speaker 4: Try something new, like usually just get like the cards and the floor hour and you do something the kids make a craft, which the kids did make a little something. But we just kind of just was like, Hey, this weekend's about you. Whatever you want to do. 00:49:07 Speaker 2: What's we're gonna do. 00:49:08 Speaker 4: We had antique stores, we got a nice little coffee in the morning, like just do whatever she wanted. And then like Sunday night, her friend Natalie came over and she's like, yo, I I this was an awesome Mother's Day weekend. I appreciate the way you did it intentionally as supposed to just handing me whatever, because something that's so easy to kind of like, hey, here's something, here's something happened Monesday. Let's go back to our regular, you know, regular scheduled programming. But yeah, Taylor was, she was happy, and that's all it matters. I can't I set the tone. I can't wait for Father's Day, can't wait for Father's Day. 00:49:37 Speaker 2: What you believe putting Mother's Day together with Father's Day in mind, it's a real thing, though it's a school board thing. You kind of played a game a little bit, see what y'all do. Woke Uh, we did a sleepover with Rue on Saturday, nice, which was you know, fun. She had you know, she didn't want to go to bed the whole time. But I was giddy because it was kind of my first time doing a sleep over with Rough because she's done it with Charlie before. Woke up, brought Ru out to kind of bring her out, bring her out of the room and surprise her. Got her flowers, better flowers than I have in the past. And Rue had a little craft thing made for and then I took the kids like I got Scotti, got the kids ready, took them to Bingi's Bagels to pick up Charles' favorite bagel because she loves benji No free shout us to Benji's. 00:50:20 Speaker 4: What's Benji' where's Benji's at? 00:50:22 Speaker 2: It's over in on the west side, kind of we're our old, Uh, we're our old the church warehouse. 00:50:27 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's yeah, they see where they make it. Yeah, okay, I think. 00:50:31 Speaker 2: Down that road on the right. Came back to her. She's reading outside on the front porch, and then we went to Whole Foods to shop for She loves doing picnics, so we got everything needed for a picnic, went out, did the whole picnic, had a good time for a couple hours out there, put the kids down for a nap. She got up, she had like a sound bath. Have you ever heard of those? She had like a sound bath at like four point thirty, So had a few hours to herself where ripping with the kids, and then made her to where it's like a sound bath is essentially yeah, like you take your own pillow, you got a blanket, and you're just sitting in a room with just sounds to where you meditate, fall asleep, take like a nap. Well, I guess whatever you want to do. And she came home. I had some steak and shrimp with some some with a garlic cream sauce getting made. 00:51:16 Speaker 4: Oh shit. 00:51:17 Speaker 2: We had steak and shrimp and asparagus, had a nice little dinner. I put Scottie down. Rue was adamant about, hey, mama, mama putting me. 00:51:26 Speaker 4: To that's a slish mind. 00:51:28 Speaker 2: So Charlie had to kind of put I had to kind of put Rude down. And Scotty's been a little under the weather. She's got like a little cold going on. So we were kind of ended a little bit last night, but overall, very solid, very good, well executed Mother's Day. I brought Rue because you guys know, the flowers got chipped to the shop last week. So on Saturday, I want to go pick him up because I couldn't. I didn't want to like put him in the truck, so I used Charles's car to come over and pick him up. And I'm kind of telling Rue, like, obviously you know it's gonna fall through with the three year old, but I'm just telling Rue, like, hey, this is a secret. This between you, and that you can't tell mom about the flowers. When we go inside, we don't tell her about the flowers. You can say she has a surprise, but we don't tell her until tomorrow. She's like, one more sleep and then we tell her tomorrow. I'm like, you will go to bed tonight, we'll have a sleep, and then we'll surprise her tomorrow with the flowers. So she comes in and she's kind of like, oh, well, what got you a secret? And then we're kind of, you know, playing it cool, like hey, play it cool, and we're kind of sitting there on the couch and she's like, one more sleep and then we show you the flowers. Look around. God, damn it God, and Charles starts laughing. But the good Mother's day man, the. 00:52:29 Speaker 4: Three year old being adamant about mom putting them down. There's no doubt my kids choose my wife over me, There's no doubt about it. But for whatever reason, it clicked this year and I was like, guys, like, I know you want them to put you down, but it's about mom. Like, wouldn't mom want to put us down on Mother's Day? Great wrinkle, great wrinkle? Went nice job. However, no yeah, no, I'm gonna do it. So they were. They were all on board, which is nice. Hopefully they continue to do it. Hopefully they continue to handle business. 00:52:56 Speaker 2: Said a good showing what is your Father's Day gift that you like my Father's Day? Like, hey, here's how I kind. 00:53:03 Speaker 4: Of like, I don't know because we've done the that one year we had with you and Dennis and everybody when we went and just like had had a boys day set up at a whole boys day that was sick. But I feel like my kids, like because when's older and like the second just being more developed because they just watched their oldest the oldest sibling, like they like are really intentional about like Mother's Day, fathers like celebrating that person. So like I kind of just want them to have fun with it, like whatever you guys think, because to me, it's like got to sleep in, like let me sleep as long as I want. And then after that it's like. 00:53:36 Speaker 5: You can do that as usual for me. Yeah, like I feel like she lets me sleep in. My wife will make me breakfast, which is really nice. Kids, will you know, give you cards, and then after that, by about lunch, it's like all right, I'm cooking mac and cheese from my girl, you know, and then then then it's business as usual. Man. She might let me sneak away for anap, But I think it's all about expectations, you know. It's just just knowing what you're getting yourself. And if you think the whole day is gonna be about being pampered and whatnot, it's like, just just be real. If you get to sleep in, that's a win in my book. 00:54:05 Speaker 2: Yeah, the way that the sleepy let me go sneak off. 00:54:11 Speaker 4: I'm not a big nap guy. You love the nap, I'm not. 00:54:14 Speaker 2: I just I get a little mid day of sleeping. 00:54:15 Speaker 5: How long is you nap? 00:54:17 Speaker 2: From forty five minutes to an hour? 00:54:18 Speaker 5: Perfect? 00:54:19 Speaker 2: It's like when the kids go down, like we were in a rhythm when we put Root down for a nap on weekends where it's like, I'd give me a little nap in on the love sack. I fall asleep for a good forty five minutes phil rejuvenated nap while they're napping. Gosh. So that's kind of my vibe. 00:54:34 Speaker 4: See, I can't do that if I go like take a nap at like two three o'clock I'm up. I'm up, Like I can't fall asleep at night. For me, it's like, let's just grind through this midday sleepiness. 00:54:43 Speaker 5: What's your sleep time? On time you go to sleep at night? What time you wake up? 00:54:47 Speaker 4: If it was my world, I'm going to bed a nine thirty about sleep. I'm more like that ten ten thirty, intentionally winding everything down at ten because my wife, she she's a little night owl. I like to get up a little earlier so you fall sleep after eleven. Usually it's eleven that the TV's going off, which sucks. Which sucks because I do really just want to like, hey, if we just go to sleep at nine thirty, week up a little earlier, we get more out of the day. Yeah, you know, I'm all about that night falls. As soon as night falls, I see that sun starting to set, my brain turns into ah, yeah, I'm the same. How do I figure out a way to get everyone to sleep so I can also go to sleep. I'm kind of a nightmare at night. 00:55:24 Speaker 5: See. My mind is about getting the kids to sleep so I can have some me time, some US time between the life and I between me. Even if it's just like mindless, like watch or whatever it may be. But I'm I I feel like I put myself in a in a pickle, so to speak. That like I don't go to sleep until like midnight or something. Our kids school starts like an hour early before everyone else. So I'm up at six am. And then I do that for about four or five days, and then I just crash one. 00:55:48 Speaker 4: Yeah, the crash is real too. 00:55:50 Speaker 5: Nine thirty ten o'clock sleep into like eight the next day, but then it powers me through the next four or five days. I know, I know it's not you know, it's not great for longevity, but you know, I'm just trying to get these kids right. 00:56:01 Speaker 4: It makes you look at like the Rock and like Kevin Hart, but like, how the fuck do they do that? They're sleeping four hours a night. They're optimal, man. Yeah, they're on that medicine three point Oh, medicine three point. 00:56:13 Speaker 2: Doctor Gabriell lyon can It's referred to as like, yeah, yeah. 00:56:17 Speaker 4: We're on that. 00:56:18 Speaker 2: I'm about to be on it. I'm diving in this week. 00:56:21 Speaker 5: What's this? 00:56:22 Speaker 2: So on the sleep thing, I can get good sleep and I'll still have like midday sleepiness. Yeah, Like it's just I don't know. For whatever reason, I just get like a midday crash. But the medicine three point oh stuff is like preventative medicine versus reactionary where it's like you'll go to primary care or you'll go to a dock. By the time you go to a dock, you already got something going on. But like all those fool on one hundred plus blood panels. There's a spot down in Franklin called Paradigm. No free shoutouts to Paradigm, but I'm diving in this week because as you know, I've I've hurt my back so many different times, and this last time, I'm just I'm legitimately so pissed off that my back keeps getting re injured. And I'm at the point too where it's like I'm thirty five, like if I keep doing the same habits that I'm doing, like I could have some actual problems by the time I'm forty. So it's like I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired. So now I'm going to this spot. I went to this pt shut out Griffin down at a Paradigm, and they have this whole thing to where it's like they'll have like this medicine three point zero type of approach, so we'll do all these labs, Dexa scans like things to where it's like what your goals are and Taylor like lifestyle towards those goals. So that is what this week I'm diving into. I'm getting Charle on board too, really. Yeah. 00:57:34 Speaker 4: Yeah, when you brought it to me last week, it fires me up because we've been doing the Gabrielle line for a little bit, but it's always zoom calls and then you have to do blood samples and then those takes a couple of weeks and then by the time it's like a month past. 00:57:44 Speaker 2: I'll get lazy. 00:57:45 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you get a little lazy with it. But having somewhere to go in town is the move. Yeah, And they have the Dexa scans, they have all that stuff apparently, Like, we'll just fill me in on this a little bit, and I think I'm gonna get the family on that too. It's might reach out soon because it is nice, like dude, being able to operate cognitively, energy, all that stuff. It's like, it's what you're seeking. Twenty four seven when you start to get older, once thirty hits, back starts to hurt. Things just start to hurt more than ever. And I just don't understand it. 00:58:12 Speaker 2: Dude. I'll sneeze and I get nervous when I sneeze. 00:58:15 Speaker 5: Hey, So like right now, today's like the first day I'm coming off back spasms last week. 00:58:19 Speaker 4: Hey, I'm saying you when you got here, you kept like doing something with your back. 00:58:22 Speaker 5: Like I'm sitting in this chair at an angle because this is not a Herman Miller lumbar support chair, yeah that I have at the house. But uh yeah, so no, we my wife and I we took a little early Mother's Day, her birthday, my birthday vacation to BlackBerry Farm and you know, in East Tennessee. And man, that I was driving out there, I feel that my left extensor start burning in the car. 00:58:45 Speaker 2: Now you're just suggesting while you're driving. 00:58:47 Speaker 5: I'm sitting forward. So finally let her drive. I'm like completely flat, and the whole time I stave it off, like you know, she wants to do pickleball. I rallied mountain biking, I rallied hiking. You know, let's go. It was, yeah, and then as soon as I get home, I'm like, all right, I dodged a bullet and then that Monday just just and then I'm on the ground for two full days until the spasm gives out or gives up, and now I'm working on pushing that inflammation out. So like right here, I'm just like buddy, yeah, yeah, And it's crazy because I'm thirty eight year younger than me and I've had scans on my back and they're like, I remember the word was capacious. You have a capacious like uh, you know, like spinal whatever. Because I'm almost hoping they find something so we can surgically fix it because it happens about four times a year to where I'm just my wife knows I'm out of commission, but don't ask anything for me. 00:59:37 Speaker 2: You're looking at a merror right now. 00:59:39 Speaker 5: But here's here's my problem. I'm excited to hear you talk about that, but here's where it gets me. It's like, it's going to take a commitment from you. It's yes, But the thing is like every time I think I want to make a commitment, I'm going to do physical therapy. I'm going to get my core right. Then I go and I start feeling better. I go ah, just getting that. 00:59:54 Speaker 4: Is every man. It's like the stretching thing. It's like I'm going to stretch ason asy wake up in the morning'm gonna stch the day. I say, hey, when I before I go to bed tonight, I'm gonna stretch. And then you're laying better. You're like tomorrow we start and it's just a vicious circle over and over again. 01:00:06 Speaker 5: But I feel like I'm not ready to make that commitment to a healthier lifestyle. 01:00:10 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's all too. It gets where it happens again and then you start bringing up the surgery, and that's the one thing I want to just get far away from because they'll bring something back. Oh you got some degeneration going on your L four and L five, like just that kind of stuff. 01:00:23 Speaker 4: Yeah, but everyone has like some sort of herniated disc's thirteen. Like, luckily I haven't had any back pain like you guys are dealing with. But I got little, this little new thing. But the spine is the most terrifying thing. 01:00:34 Speaker 2: And once you start once what he says, that not the same conversation that I've kind of had with you on Like it'll happen four or five times a year. 01:00:41 Speaker 4: Once a month, Will and I have a conversation about his back and what we both need to start doing more and better. 01:00:47 Speaker 5: But it'll be something. I remember I was getting my shotgun out because it was like Turkey season. I went to go put it on the table, you know, like, oh, I just threw it on the ground like I was like, well, I wasn't load or anything like that. That was just what I was doing. But it's it's the most like I was getting a cutting. We're out one time, and you know, like you just throw everything, Yeah, just grabs on you. But I can work at my property and lift something incredibly heavy and brace you know, brace the core and whatnot. But it's always the little things like bending over to you know, help your kid out of the back, whatever it may be. Where it's it's you know, you feel like it shouldn't happen. And then of course you're like why I'm you know, I'm thirty eight, Like this shouldn't be like this. And then I go back to my and I'm like, I'm good, I gotta quit, bitch. And but it's a bad cycle, and. 01:01:26 Speaker 2: It's a territ it's a nasty cycle. Like you're talking about just the smallest things. I'll pick ru up out of bed and it'll just fucking grab me and then I drop like I'll lift, drop, rude down, drop the guns, drop the babies dead. That hurt his back. And she's back from surfing because when we were out in Hawaii, we surfed and I had to end up stop surfing because I was say, hey, my back is an absolute help from surfing, but you grind it out. Wife wants to surf, grind it out. She wants to play tennis, grind out in the whole entire next week. Back from Hawaii. I'm like, I'm in fucking hell right nowh God. 01:01:54 Speaker 4: I don't envy that because I'm younger than you know. I feel like I'm two years away from that happening. I just feel like we're all in different state. 01:02:00 Speaker 2: A yeah, but it's it. You know. When I was in Vegas and I got rolled out by the big big Bertha, which I love doing. Oh you did the body tempering units body tempering? Yeah, and my man went over my low back and it just it spasmed on me right there and I'm kind of sitting there. It was before the very first practice that I got there probably from flying, and you you do the workout, and I'm sitting there like I cannot be hurt, literally before I even go out to walk through. So I'm doing all the band stuff to warm my gluee through practice and come come back after practice, and so I'm gonna do like band distraction to help like decompress my spine. Bro I got down to decompress my spine to where I I get it like this, I crawl out and then I was just like letting go back decompress. And when I go back in and it compresses back down, I could not get up off the floor. 01:02:51 Speaker 5: This is exactly. Hey, So I used to have one of those inversion tables. So naturally you get on it and where you like lay backwards and it just fine. So you think about it. You lay in that and it hurts a little bit at first, and you get there like, oh, this is so good. I love it. And then the second you start your those muscles that are already in spas and they start to contract your oh, and then you get it's even worse. So you're on the ground. You can't even get off the ground. You have to slowly inch like army crawl your leg up to your side so that way your back the muscles don't fire. 01:03:21 Speaker 2: Play the strength coach is coming over. Hey, well you need somethings on. Oh no, I'm just I'm just warning too, something out done here, trying to just fake it, like again, I cannot be right now and end up inching my way upd standing, breathing and getting in and I just fucking hobble back, just getting the car, go to the to the hotel, just being like But since that moment, I feel like that area of my back has never been right. When when we that was the time when we wrestled in the in the pool and I got you bodied me but lifting you up and that activated. I feel like that lower right side of my back has been in hell ever since. 01:03:56 Speaker 5: Twenty twenty twenty. But you have to laugh at it. 01:03:58 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've had one back thing. We were we went to Arizona to play the Cardinals. We went to Arizona play the Carls. I stayed there the week before, the whole week and then played San Francisco and I played like like fourteen maybe twenty snaps of the game, and my back was in such a pretzel. I had to go back, and I was fucking on all these different by muscle relaxers so much, all these things, and so now I can't shit. I get up in the morning, Like getting out of bed is just like the hardest thing ever. Brushing your teeth. It just even a sneeze. You feel a sneeze coming, You're like, I'm if this comes, it might actually kill me. 01:04:34 Speaker 2: You guys could have saw me on the weight room floor, like just trying to inch up. 01:04:37 Speaker 5: And yeah, yeah, it's embarrassing. 01:04:40 Speaker 2: He uh, you need help doing anything of it. I'm just do some floor work. 01:04:44 Speaker 5: Let's just do it some floor work. 01:04:45 Speaker 4: But even we were in Green Bay. You were in hell, weren't you. 01:04:49 Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit. Ever, all the travel we did in the springtime, it's like when we went to uh, Nebraska, I'm getting stuff to calm me down anytime inflammatory wise, and I just know in my head this is gonna to make me feel good to where it's like I've gotten away with another one and then the next one pops up. So I'm just like I'm battling with myself. Bro. 01:05:07 Speaker 4: When we were in Nebraska, the team was waiting on Will in the locker room and we Will's in the training room and I got one of those closed doors, like he's talking at the doctor right now. I have to go. Jack walks in there like, hey, the team's waiting on you. Guys like, oh for real. So I knock on the door and open up. I Hey, Will, they're waiting on you. And he's like oh really yeah, And Will starts this speech with the entire team and he goes, just got my back looked at. It's not good speak. Start ends up being like an incredible speed. This starts the whole thing like that. It was just yeah, this whole trick. Literally, this is the end of the night. At the draft. There's still photo and I'm doing something for me doing shirms like it was a name age body count and Will this is Will, that's this is his. 01:05:53 Speaker 5: Have you ever taken like water bottles and just put it under your lumbard just so when you're sitting like on a like on a plane or something, just to give you just. 01:06:00 Speaker 2: But that's smart. I'll like roll up the hoodies and. 01:06:02 Speaker 5: Stuff and just put it. That's desperation mode right there. 01:06:06 Speaker 2: Because you just you just know when I'm gonna be in hell. 01:06:09 Speaker 5: I had my like yetti mug, driving big old thick. When I put it right here, I'm gonna drive my mind. She's like you, Okay, maybe you should take over. There's only funny in heist when you're going through it and then you have no you're under You're in so much pain and so uncomfortable. Everything pisses you all. You're just yelling at everybody. You're just miserable, and you're. 01:06:30 Speaker 2: Not telling your wife that hey, like, yes, please, foruld love of God, switch me out driving. 01:06:33 Speaker 5: But you'll move enough to get out of let's go. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean if you play with her. 01:06:41 Speaker 4: Guys that BlackBerry Mountain or BlackBerry Mountain, that's what we did. How was that? Because I've been to farm, but I haven't been the mountain. 01:06:46 Speaker 5: It's just different. It's it well still it's still an older demographic, but it's more like everybody's in like yoga pants and like active, where whereas like the farm is more eating and yeah, but I like the farm a little bit more, just because you know, with the mountain. Yeah, it just it depends. My wife says, the farm the spas there is the best, but the food at the mountain is so good. Everywhere it's really good at the mountains, so good. They got to off the puss up there at the at the fire tower. 01:07:14 Speaker 2: It's really good. SOMEU have you been? 01:07:20 Speaker 4: You've been a farm, BlackBerry Farm that you need to take the girls there, dude, because it is good. The farm's awesome, Like everything's like farmer table there. It used to be. 01:07:30 Speaker 2: That's awesome. 01:07:31 Speaker 4: Ruby was it Ruby Tuesdays? Yeah? Ruby Tuesdays. The owner of that bought that land to do like business stuff there. What's up Archie Lodge? Just you're what's about BlackBerry Farm? 01:07:46 Speaker 7: Archie Lodge also the Ruby Tuesdays farms and family owned a bunch of I was just in a Knoxville wedding three weeks ago at the Ruby Tuesday's Lodge was also beautiful. 01:07:55 Speaker 4: But continue basically guys doing well. Yeah, they like all that. 01:08:00 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's BlackBerry Farm. That's the barn, right, No, that's the No, that's the storry. That's the spa at BlackBerry Farm. 01:08:06 Speaker 4: Spa goes hard there. They could have a better weight room. They can definitely have a better We'll hit South Hall. Yes, everyone's the South Hall is the closer farm. 01:08:15 Speaker 5: It's you've been in the South Hall too. I've been to South It's apples and oranges though. Okay, yeah, I'm just helping you out. That's a good birthday weekend, Mother's Day weekend. Probably take a second loan out on your house type weekend. 01:08:28 Speaker 4: But it's yeah, you're dropping a bag to go there. Yeah, it is crazy. And then the Barn, I don't know how the mountain is with the barn is like a five star restaurant where like chefs come from all over the world to like cook there for a season and then they leave. 01:08:43 Speaker 5: Jesus, Yeah, it's it's nice. The only thing I don't like is like you pay all this money and you can get as much food. 01:08:50 Speaker 4: As you want. 01:08:50 Speaker 5: You know, you start with your appetis. You can get two entrees if you want. I want to try this gallops with my you know, my lambull, and the surfaces are very small, and but then they charge you for the alcohol. You know, I get someone might take advantage of you buying a bottle of wine. But if I just want a beer or two, like you're can charge me for that. 01:09:06 Speaker 2: Do leave a review. 01:09:09 Speaker 5: I'm not a yell Google review type of guy. I just feel like you just scroll. 01:09:15 Speaker 2: For you. 01:09:16 Speaker 5: I just if it's if it's all inclusive, make it all inclusive, because I hate paying for something. You spend all this money, then you feel like get nikeled and dimed. 01:09:24 Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, yeah, it's. 01:09:26 Speaker 5: How I feel. It's just how I feel. It's like it's like chartering a flight and then they go, hey, do you want to get food on there? I go, absolutely not. I got to draw the line somewhere. They're gonna charge you two hundred bucks to put those sandwiches on the plane. I'm not gonna eat them all, but I will pay X amount for the ride up there. 01:09:42 Speaker 4: There is nothing better than private aviation. Nothing beats it. 01:09:44 Speaker 5: I've said this speaking up to get into it. 01:09:47 Speaker 4: Ultimate bro move, Ultimate bro move by you, because I had to go fly back to Nashville from Green Bay and for you to even send that text, hey, I got room if you want to jump on this plane. And I was trying to figure out any way to get on that plane for it. But once I real lized it was gonna you'll be waiting for me. Just just you reaching out. That was huge. That's that's big. Anyway, that's onward. 01:10:08 Speaker 5: Well, well, I knew you had to stay though, Yeah, yeah, I had to go to Yeah, we had to get the Lincoln the next morning. 01:10:13 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:10:13 Speaker 5: But private aviation, Hey, let's uh, this is this is Super Bowl Champion. That's how I talked to the beer in the room. Should be free. 01:10:29 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, the aviation thing. 01:10:31 Speaker 5: Do you know it's called Nickel. I forgot Nickel actually might actually think it's me. Oh man, yeah. 01:10:41 Speaker 2: The private Yeah, the private aviation. We can pull off some trips like we did with Nebraska and Michigan. 01:10:45 Speaker 5: Would you would you Okay, let's say you win the lottery. Would you rather have a yacht or a plane in the world with that? Yeah? 01:10:53 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:10:54 Speaker 4: The plain thing is that people will talk all the time, but when have you made it? 01:10:57 Speaker 5: What you listen, there's some people like that, like shot Con or whatever down in Jacksonville, you know, who have these these yachts that look remarkable, but you can only get so far right, you know what I mean. It's like with a plane, dude, I don't know if it's called window. I watch YouTube videos on like the latest Gulf streams, like the G seven hundred or the G eight hundred, and I'm like, when I win the lottery, right, we're getting. 01:11:17 Speaker 4: This is yours only ninety eight million dollars, Like, w how do I make ninety eight million to just fit on this fucking plane? How do I do that? Because it is the best man. The first time I ever flew private, I was with Gay Bikert and his wife and their family. Both sides like one side the family start American Fidelity Insurance, the other side of the family started Loves Gas Stations. So both families very well off. I fly to La Commercial and then like, hey, we're gonna fly from LA to Maui. And I get on this plane and it is as big as this fucking warehouse. The bathroom was as big as this bus. And I thought, this is the most incredible thing ever fly to a private airport Maui. 01:11:52 Speaker 5: Or private fbo. 01:11:53 Speaker 4: God, I'm hammered. I was hammered. I threw up in the bathroom. We go look it up at the stars. I don't even know what's going on. 01:11:58 Speaker 2: Wake up in the morning. 01:12:00 Speaker 4: There's like this giant I'm in this giant house and it's like in this bay during grey whale meeting season, and they're like splashing in the air as I'm sipping on a coffee nursing a hangover, and I thought, this is this is. 01:12:12 Speaker 5: This is the life, and this is the content your fans are gonna love to Yeah, yeah, yeah. 01:12:17 Speaker 4: And then I flew back on Southwest and still to this day, Yeah, that ship is wild. But yeah, you can't beat that man, can't beat aviation. 01:12:26 Speaker 2: What else do we got, boys? 01:12:28 Speaker 4: We got a beaufree shout out. Oh, shut out, shout out, boufree shout out. Oh yeah, oh first yeah, if I have it, I let's see here, Let's see here, let's see here. Okay, well it's final, Okay, shut out. Boufree Shadows brought to us by bo Jangles Bow Time, Bow Time Baby. 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I wish so badly that that Burt torres peck and just completely failed on that bench fest. Unfortunately he did not. So with that being said, his new special is out. Unlucky. Yeah, tour dates? What else you got going on? What does Burt gott Well, let me get those tour dates, requ. 01:14:16 Speaker 1: Will it's getting pulled up. One of my friends in Greenville sold a house to a massive Burt Kreischer fan who went on Burt and Tom's cruise, and so I promised him I shout him out. His name is Tony. He just moved to South Carolina. 01:14:28 Speaker 2: Bought Tony. 01:14:28 Speaker 4: Shout out Tony. All right, So Burt Crusher's tour is July eighteenth, Winnipeg August ninth, Halifax August twenty third, Spokane, Washington, August twenty fourth, Calgary shut out, Burt Kreusher. You're the man, dude, you beat us. 01:14:41 Speaker 2: How's that biscuit phenomenal? Yeah, you guys want a little because people can get a free little Cajun biscuit, right. 01:14:47 Speaker 4: Yeah, ended up free Cajun biscuit Partici participating partners using code busting. 01:14:53 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is it. So when you get that Cajun free biscuit, here's my low Cajun free biscuit hack, Ken, I've already talked about it, but it is put honey. It is drizzling honey on your Cajun fil a on your Cajun file a biscuit. That's my hack. My shoutout, boufree shout out. This week is going to go to snot suckers. 01:15:09 Speaker 5: For your kids. 01:15:10 Speaker 2: Yeah, for the kids, Scottie. We at first he's very congested and using those little bulls that kind of suck it out. They kind of just don't kind of just don't do it. And you just feel like you're torching them the entire time. But hopped on Amazon, got a little snotsucker to where you kind of set it by your nose and you you like suck it up out of there. Yeah, and it's it works wonders. So if you're out there in the parenting game and you're using that little ball and you get a little frustrated with it, just pop on Amazon get yourself a little snot sucker. It does wonders wonderful. Yeah, wonder that's my shotou boufree shot out. 01:15:41 Speaker 4: I love that. Well, speaking of hacks, anytime I get my cage and file a biscuit, I do think more protein the better, So I like to throw the leg on there, a little cheese with my sandwich. 01:15:51 Speaker 5: Eat a sandwich. 01:15:52 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm meeting it. 01:15:53 Speaker 5: Cajun Fla, got. 01:15:54 Speaker 2: The egg on there. 01:15:55 Speaker 4: It looks fantastic. 01:15:56 Speaker 5: Buddy. 01:15:56 Speaker 2: You guys got shoutouts, all right. 01:16:02 Speaker 8: My shout out boufree shout out goes to uh when you go to a concert like the light show that they put on Garrett g or g Jack and I we went to Rufus Dessoul last Tuesday and the light show that they had going on, Like I I caught myself watching the lights more than I was like enjoying the music, and like they had like this smoke go off and then like these lasers go through it and it looked like the sky was like you could like touch it, Like it was one of those things where you like, I should be on drugs right now. I was completely sober, and I was like this would be this is so awesome. 01:16:39 Speaker 5: But then also, don't have one drink. 01:16:41 Speaker 4: No, No, he's trying to do his craft, I guess, So I guess he is committed to his craft. 01:16:47 Speaker 8: But then also like another side shout out when you see your friends enjoying stuff like I me and like our crews were right near each other, and G was standing right in front of me the entire time, and G was just vibing the entire time, like he's having the best time his life right now. And it was like I was happy seeing him happy, just like enjoying you just like grooving. And G can dance too, so. 01:17:07 Speaker 4: He was, oh shit, okay, gee, he was doing his thing. Let's fucking go. 01:17:13 Speaker 2: There's not like. 01:17:15 Speaker 4: That's just a fls a flow. Yeah, it's just rhythm. Uh shout out Bope. 01:17:24 Speaker 7: Shout out to staying on property at a travel wedding as a single man, like you typically get in these flows where you get an airbnb outside of said property for a venue because it's cheaper or it's whatever. In the last few weddings that I've been traveling for, I've been saying on property and the convenience factor is amazing, and on top of it, it's usually a beautiful location to go celebrate love and you with your friends. Our friends were in Miramar Beach and Destin where I was just at this weekend. We were staying closer towards like the Alabama state line side, but we were in this like twenty story hotel. We're on the night floor, had this beautiful view of the bay. Every time I've been in Destin, I'm very much used to being on the beach, so it was a different destined experience for me. But we have this beautiful view, a beautiful room, tons of good places to eat and hang out and drink around us. But yeah, when when a wedding party wants you to stay where the wedding is happening, it's usually for the right reason. And so I think I'm just growing up, and I'm about to just stay on property every time I go to a wedding nice because they take care of you. And the wedding was six floors below where we were staying, and all of our friends had to drive twenty minutes and I was staying with three single guys. And it's like, hey, singles are kind of up right now. But yeah, shout out to staying on property. Shout out, bow free, shout out. Also, are we supposed to be doing something with our Cajun flay hack? 01:18:48 Speaker 2: You can have a Cajun f a hack. 01:18:50 Speaker 7: Yeah it was said earlier because I don't know. 01:18:52 Speaker 1: You can't. 01:18:52 Speaker 7: You don't want to go too outside the box on a Cajun flay hack. But if you throw honey on a Cajun ful a biscuit, especially a hot agent fl a biscuit, the sweetness of the honey paired with the heat level of the chicken. 01:19:05 Speaker 2: Is a really good combination. 01:19:07 Speaker 7: So I wouldn't necessarily call it a hack because it's been done. But we don't need to reinvent the wheel either, Like, let's just stick to what we know. So shout out, yeah, a little honey, it's been done. 01:19:18 Speaker 4: Yeah more than once on this bus. 01:19:21 Speaker 1: Jameson the wheel, Nope, I know my bow free shoutout hack would be I love honey mustard with my Cajun file a biscuit, and another shout out to Bojangles just because for me, Bojanles I think immediately related to college football because South Carolina there's a Bojngles right next to the stadium, and every single game day morning go to Bojangles, get Cajun file, a biscuit, combo the bow rounds dunklem in some honey mustard, and it's just college football is the best time of the year and Bojangles makes me think of it. Love that Cox and shout out Spencer Rattler. 01:19:59 Speaker 4: He's been Orleans in it's his time. 01:20:01 Speaker 2: Yeah man. 01:20:02 Speaker 4: Also shout out beaufree Shadow Vegas. This weekend, Jackie hitting the cards hard. We're gonna see what happens. Hit the little apexel ufc aft, hit the sphere. I think the kids would love to see that. 01:20:17 Speaker 2: I would. 01:20:18 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll tell you what. I'll get you a single ticket. I will and I know you will well. 01:20:23 Speaker 2: I know that one man. 01:20:24 Speaker 4: I swear all right, fair enough, I pulled you like enough. You're going, baby, that's it Vegas. Yeah, anybody else, but I'm not. Here's why you can go. 01:20:35 Speaker 5: For the first half, first song. 01:20:38 Speaker 4: Saturday night, I will be playing cards and then as soon as I'm done playing cars, will be going to sleep because we have a five am flight. And then the next Monday, Tuesday, we got a big couple of days here, not gonna say what. We had a big couple of days that I need to be I need to be ready and heady for ye. 01:20:56 Speaker 5: I'll tell you after the show. But I see it. 01:21:00 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that is big. Yeah, yeah, that Monday on Tuesdays. 01:21:04 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, So I want to be available. 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You think it's gonna be a big year for w Retler. 01:22:52 Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, I mean last year you look at their roster. Obviously there was a whole issue with their head coach, the coaching staff. The roster was not a good roster. He did break Archie Manning's record rookie record passing yards of the season, but no, I think it's uh Kellen Moore's down there. I think they'll be a great, a great duo. And I believe, of course, I believe in Spencer Rally because he's a game cock. But I just think he is. I mean, he's so talented. He was highly talented as a young kid. He played well in college, and I think if you can just have a decent roster, he's gonna be good. 01:23:24 Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know how the Saints will do it. Feels like they just need to reset the entire thing. 01:23:28 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, because who's the who's their draft pick? Tyler Tyler should right shuck right, yeah, shuck well, and they have Jake Hayner as the as also in the room. 01:23:45 Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like I feel like they're divisions all Tampa this year, all Tampa. 01:23:50 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:23:51 Speaker 4: But hopefully he takes a step where the like this is our guy for the future. He just can play for ten fifteen years. I know other quarterbacks should Sanders? What sure? What are you saying? The Cleveland Browns bringing up a bunch of stats up the entire world. 01:24:07 Speaker 2: The trolling by the Cleveland fan base. 01:24:10 Speaker 4: Cleveland fan base is getting weird because they were going after Mason Graham too, showing him in some drills like there's no way this is the fifth overall pack. 01:24:15 Speaker 2: So they're trolling by talking about he has these record breaking numbers for a rookie mini camp. And now it's obviously working everybody up because Sanders has been such a talk since the whole draft. But you gotta respectus yards. I love this one because it's very obviously a forty yard pass. 01:24:36 Speaker 5: It's just I read that last night and I'm like, this guy's not eighty one. Like I'm now putting it together, like I'm. 01:24:45 Speaker 2: Not gonna lie watch that video several times it's back. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's a troll because that's insane. 01:24:50 Speaker 5: And I'm like, wait, Baker, this pass I was. I'm literally like racking my brain because I'm like, it was a nice pass. I hope he does well. 01:25:00 Speaker 4: That is gonna be That's gonna be news forever. 01:25:03 Speaker 5: Oh bro, this. 01:25:05 Speaker 2: Media coverage for that quarterback room throughout training camp is going to be insane. 01:25:10 Speaker 4: Were you surprised that he went in the fifth round? 01:25:12 Speaker 5: I was. I think from a talent standpoint, he obviously is greater than rounder. I don't know, I don't know how you know what happened in the meeting room. He'll prepare whatever it may be. But yes, I was, to answer your question, definitely surprised. I'm not you know, I'm not one of those guys talking about collusion or anything like that. But I hope he does well. I've like I I've watched more Colorado Ball than I have like any like, you know, being a former USC trojan, like, I watched them, and I watched Colorado because they were like must see TV. I want to see what Dion was doing, Chador Travis, and so, you know, I hope he does well. I hope he does well. 01:25:57 Speaker 4: Yeah. I feel like he's put in the best position to do well now because he's learned early in his career how not to handle things. If some of these things are true, like the way he was handing himself in the meeting room, they just the photo that Trimmers had up with him, the sideway, the hat backwards and sideways while you're at the combine doing press like there's if you're a NFL quarterback, there's only thirty thirty two of you that start. Like there's a way you handle yourself, the way you operate everything, and if you're a billion dollar corporation, you want to put your hands, you know, you want to put everything on this guy. It's like you want him to represent your team in a certain way. So I hope he crushes. 01:26:30 Speaker 5: Yeah. 01:26:30 Speaker 4: I'm kind of mixed because Dylan was a Dylan Gabriel right, like the Oregon cat he just being around him for the short amount of time I was for the Oregon housetake game, he was. He's a dude that seems like he's got a good head on the shoulders, works super hard. Dan Lanny had a lot of good things to say about him. So I hope they're both successful. I don't know how that happens, but it'll be interesting to say the least, see how that all goes down. 01:26:52 Speaker 2: Joe Flacco. 01:26:53 Speaker 5: You think they're both on the roster week one? 01:26:55 Speaker 2: Yeah? 01:26:55 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, over both? 01:26:57 Speaker 5: And who was and who was the other buddy. 01:26:59 Speaker 4: Kind Deshaun Watson woll Deshaun Watson is not going anywhere, Kenny pay So Watson will be on I R. 01:27:06 Speaker 5: And then you got to get rid of either one. But you just don't give up on rookies like that, especially. 01:27:12 Speaker 4: I think if they showed enough promise you, you might get rid of Joe. 01:27:16 Speaker 5: And he's not I know, but you need Joe to be the the you know, to be in that locker room, the quarterback room, to show these guys how to be a professional. 01:27:28 Speaker 4: I don't disagree with you, because you take Joe out of that, out of that locker room, it'll definitely gets weird. 01:27:33 Speaker 2: It'll be Dylan Gabriel should pick it that get cut, like Joe is gonna be on. 01:27:36 Speaker 4: The it would would probably be Pickett. 01:27:40 Speaker 2: If you have to have both those young quarterbacks showing up. 01:27:42 Speaker 4: But you're looking at You're looking at five quarterbacks here, really it's four like Deshaun Watson, like that's he's gonna be on I R and there. I feel like even with the Browns with the money there, yeah he's gonna be on the roster, but he's not really in the room. 01:27:54 Speaker 2: And Mitch, to your point, like fifth round, you're a draft pick, but yeah, you will probably. 01:28:00 Speaker 5: Be on the roster because he was a third round Yeah, third round they went and got him at third round. Yeah, you know. 01:28:05 Speaker 2: Yes. 01:28:06 Speaker 8: My thing is, though, why would you waste a draft picked on him them? I feel like you're like your draft picks should not should stay on the roster unless they have like a poor preseason. But like, if you cut a draft pick, you just wasted a pick. That can happen though I know, but like that just seems like in my head, that just seems like dumb for a franchise to waste a fifth, sixth, seventh round. 01:28:28 Speaker 2: They're probably not going into it thinking they're gonna cut him, like. 01:28:30 Speaker 5: They it's a waste too. Obviously they were happy with their third round pick and Gabriel, but you know, now you have somebody who for whatever reason, has fallen to the fifth You're like all right, let's let's take a chance. 01:28:41 Speaker 2: Let's see, let's see if he can but he can do if pick it exceeds their expectations, that's where it's like you you got to picket Dylan Gabriel, Joe Flacco, and maybe you try and get Schaduro on the practice squad. If that's how we're to play out. Like again, it's like they're all gonna they're all gonna be in a spot to where they can win a job. 01:28:56 Speaker 8: Did you imagine Shader gets cut the frends, the media friends that will have and or if he's a practice squad guy, I don't think. 01:29:02 Speaker 2: What it's going to be a media frenzy no matter what, matter what. 01:29:04 Speaker 8: I don't think they'll allow him to get cut just because of who he is. And like I know the NFL doesn't really care about that, but like I. 01:29:12 Speaker 2: Just bro, they won't operate like that. 01:29:14 Speaker 4: They won't. I think if you see, if you see Pickett, Shouldure and Dylan all show promised to we're like, okay, one of these guys could be our quarterback a long term. There's a world you get rid of Flacco because you have all of Campbell Flacco. They learn from Flacco then, but like he's a short term answer and these are some long term guys. So as a franchise, you want to invest in the long term options. I mean, it sucks for Flacco because he is a dog still. 01:29:40 Speaker 2: But to Clay's point, it's like you have somebody in there who would be a pro and teach them how to be a pro, like I think Jobion the roster no matter what Hey. 01:29:47 Speaker 4: Show, can you look up how many years Flako has been. 01:29:49 Speaker 2: In the league. 01:29:51 Speaker 5: He came in two thousand and eight, I believe right. 01:29:55 Speaker 1: Also, it looks like Adam Scheffner ten minutes ago, Trey Hendrickson says, Bang have cut off contract talks. 01:30:02 Speaker 5: Bro Hey, just real quick, Why does it always seem like the Bengals, going back to Andre Smith maybe even before then, always seem to have an issue signing their players. Now there's a kid, a first round pick to the Bengals, sitting at a rookie camp. Who's sitting at a rookie camp, and listen, he has all the he has every right to do it, but it's because his let's just say, guaranteed money, whatever it may be that they're fighting over, is less than the twenty twenty four pick at the same slot at twenty fourth pick, Like, why is it always an issue? 01:30:26 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't. 01:30:28 Speaker 5: I mean, well, listen, I mean that's but I'm talking like this has been this has been going on for some time now. Whether I remember, like when two thousand and nine was a Andre Smith from Alabama, you know, like Darius Hey where he was slotted somewhere. I don't know if he was asking for too much. I'd have to educate myself a little bit more if he was asking for what was appropriate. But now Hendrickson making Jamar chase and then make him wait another it just seems like there's always. 01:30:51 Speaker 2: They've always kind of messed around with their players. 01:30:53 Speaker 4: Yeah, it seems like I don't know if I'm putting words where they shouldn't be, But I don't think they're like a cash heavy franchise, Like they're a cash poor franchise. So they have to like manipulate and handle these things. And they've kind of run into a good problem to have where they have all these great players and they've got to pay him relatively. On the same time, the Trey Hendrickson thing, didn't he get paid already? 01:31:11 Speaker 2: He's gotten way. I feel like that's always been kind of a drama, that's always been kind of a beef between them because he's always he's always wanted to kind of extend this contract. They've always kind of been in talks, out of talks, saying stuff in the media. 01:31:24 Speaker 4: The Bangles put themselves in a bad position waiting this long because you had Miles Garrett, Max Crosby, all these other guys, I mean Vianna's team, Jamar Chase, like Max Croffy was the highest paid non quarterback guy in NFL history, and a week later he was like the fifth highest. So the market's gone crazy. Now Trey Henderson is probably thinking, well, I'm up there with Max and Miles. I want to beat them. And so it's probably. 01:31:46 Speaker 2: Probably as they paid Jamar Chase, they paid t Higgins. 01:31:49 Speaker 4: Yeah, Uh did they? Are they franchise? 01:31:52 Speaker 2: No? I'm pretty sure they just like the highest paid number two receiver in the league. Yeah, but they've tried taking care of their guys on offense, and it's come time for Tray. It's just like, you know, how the business kind of gets in the way or priorities wherever they're at. Because like Trey probably could command somewhere close to you know, those guys that are getting paid at the top, obviously their agent. The market's kind of working in that favor. But the Bengals might be Stratford cash. 01:32:14 Speaker 4: The rookie sitting, the rookie sitting out of rookie mini camp. Though I don't understand, because my understanding of the new CBA is every pick is slotted right with a five percent increase every single year. So there is nothing that you're you're negotiating over, like minor details, smaller things like the price kind of is what the price is. So I just got to sit out, Like, I don't know. You you were the old CB when you got drafted, but you went to rookie MINTI camp without being signed. 01:32:38 Speaker 5: I yes, that's correct. Yeah, I mean you have the right to so I like, I don't know. I think it depends on the situation. So I don't know what they're fighting over. I think I had something to do with guarant you know, some type of guarantee in there. But I definitely think as a rookie you want to put your best foot forward. But at the same token, that's I mean, you just got to stand up for you the. 01:33:00 Speaker 2: Agent the advice there don't don't don't you don't risk injury when there's no. 01:33:05 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you but you are like it's already there, Like I agree, I'm understanding your first round picks still, Like when I got drafted, it was like, ty, this is how much you're. 01:33:14 Speaker 2: Going to make. 01:33:14 Speaker 4: It's guaranteed. It can't go away unless like I, you know, you get a d U Y or something like that, like something crazy has like if you get injured, you're good. Through the four years I did, I didn't sign till two days before camp started, and that was the only time my agent was like, hey, you might have to like not go in for the first day and just and then come in the next day. But I got it, got done. But I did rookie minicamp, but I did OTAs I had like twelve dollars in my bank account. I'm thinking to myself, I can't wait for this fucking phone number. 01:33:41 Speaker 2: It's gonna look different. 01:33:42 Speaker 1: Remember Sean Merriman, he said he held out of camp and then his rookie year. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. And then he showed up like that's right, day one practice and went nuts and. 01:33:53 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what he talks about going after Lorenzo Neil. 01:33:56 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, but it doesn't make. 01:33:59 Speaker 4: A whole lot of sense because they they're that's like a fragile. It's such a unique franchise because Burrow is so good and their team is like super Bowl caliber, but there's always something up, like they're always losing the games they shouldn't lose. They're always fighting to get in the playoffs the end. Not always like this happened last year. But they are just a team that, like it. 01:34:17 Speaker 5: Seems like some bullshits around them that they don't need Carson, you know, when Carson was there and demanding a trade. You just always think there's yeah, it's like a franchise. Yeah, yeah, the franchise, you know, with just a little instability. So yeah, yeah. 01:34:31 Speaker 4: Well Joe too. It's like you've got the tools, like you guys are a team in the AFC are it's good. 01:34:38 Speaker 1: The kids shows up to every single day and he's in the jersey. He just doesn't do the actual drill, but he's like there on the field. 01:34:46 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's his agent rights do everything you can figure. It feels like the end of the world when you're not going through it. But once he starts, if he starts making plays, it's you know, right, But I would like as an like as a former player, I'd be like, I want to be out there all right, the boys. I want to give off a good impression first impression. 01:35:04 Speaker 4: You never held out? 01:35:06 Speaker 5: No, but my contract got signed, I think my rookie one, like right before the first day. Hey, you might have to hold out the first day. Got signed in my second one five year deal. I played four years and we just pretty much to them, we're not showing up until we get a new contract. Obviously nicer than that, and they was, they were that's what was going to happen. So we got signed in the off season at some point. That was it. 01:35:31 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was easy. 01:35:31 Speaker 5: I mean there was no like it was going to happen. I was playing well. I deserved it. I was you know, it was it was gonna happen. 01:35:38 Speaker 4: Yeah, so you you you had full faith in that. Yes, I had to hold out for a mandatory mini camp and I was stressed out about it. Yeah, I was so stressed because they were kind of starting the negotiations going on. They sent off. They picked up my fifth year and so I played my fourth year. So going into my I believe going into my fifth year, they started the negotiations, but like the season ended, and obviously it's like all you're thinking about. It's like the second contract. You're like, bro, I've done it, Hayes in the Barn, I've done X, Y and Z, like I know what I'm kind of worth it. You're excited about it. And then February nothing, March nothing, April you show up for OTAs and you're like, all right, I mean, let's see what happens. You kind of try to be in the best shape possible, like yell tan On, You're in the gym a little extra long a couple of days leading up, and then they send like some offer that's like bullshit, like it's still it was still a good like it's money, but you're also thinking, like you know what you're worth and I knew what I was like supposed to beginning. And then like John Robinson's like, you know, we just sent you a big offer blah blah blah. 01:36:32 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh shit, for real. 01:36:32 Speaker 4: So I called my agent. They're like this is a terrible offer, this is awful blah blah blah. So we kind of go through it back and forth a little bit, and then Tom Conning, my agent's like, hey, maybe you should think about not going to mandatory mini camp, and I was like stressed about it, and so I ended up. It was that was Rave's first year, but Raves like he came up to me during OTA's and he's like, Hey, I know that you guys are negotiations. I want you to know that I'm not touching any of that. Like you want talk about football, we talk aout football. He went up to me about contract. You go talk to John about that. Like Ravee cut it down the middle really quick to where he was totally not about it, which I actually appreciated. But this is like eighteen rapes. So yeah, I held out for that mandatory mini camp and I made that mistake of going on one to four to five the zone that first day and just kind of listening, they're like this guy blah blah blah. I'm thinking, Ah, did I fuck up? Should I not have done that? And then like literally it was kind of the same thing as my rookie. My rookie deal is John Robinson goes, He's not going to be here. We're not ghost negotiating with guys that aren't here, so they cut it off. So all of June and then half of July, like I think it was like July like fifteenth until camp's in like a week. They called and then they got that they got it done, Like I think you're doing like minor detail stuff. So like this kid who's like sitting out my first day of camp, I was like, hey, just to protect myself, I'll be here, but I'm not gonna do I'll do drills. I'm not gonna do any team stuff because that the last thing I want to do is get hurt. I was like very transparent, like if I get hurt, like you guys understand, and John was like, yeah, we totally get it. So I kind of just like chilled that day, which was so nice, so nice that first day camp dudes are just dying. I'm like, you could be right to get a sip of water. And then I got done the next day. But it's so uncomfortable to say, yeah it is. You feel like you're just letting everybody down. 01:38:10 Speaker 5: Oh they're taking advantage, you know, because you've never been in a business negotiation before, so you have no idea and you feel like everybody's looking at you, especially as a high draft pick. You're like, I need to be out there. I need to show my worth and what you got, you got to do it's best for you, though. Yeah, it's hard at that age though, at you know, twenty two. 01:38:25 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting though because the nil like everyone's got agents. They've all had agents for three four years now, so they kind of like understand the business a little bit more now. 01:38:34 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, but until you go through the experience, you don't have any experience. 01:38:37 Speaker 4: Yeah, so you can. 01:38:38 Speaker 2: Sit there and talk about with your agent, but once the chaos and the posturing and everything else starts, is still brand new to you. And everybody's living in their own world. It's like you're in your own movie. So the panic and anxiety or how are they seeing me? How are my teammates seeing me? How the coaching staff seeing me? By doing this, because I'm listening to my agent, I feel like I'm second guessing my agent a little bit. Yeah, because I want to I want to be out there with the boys. So you're kind of pressing him, he's pressing back. It's like you don't know until you actually go through. 01:39:01 Speaker 4: That's the thing you brought up at the beginning too, of like you're in your own story, like no one actually gives a fuck what you're doing. Everyone's so focused on their own OTAs their next contract, they're making the team, and they're like, hey, Will's holding out. It's like, oh, for real, I hope he gets his money. And then they go back to whatever the fuck they're doing. But you're just playing this game in your head of like oh fuck, yeah, dude, did you uh with the draft this year? Did you feel any type of way with the Packers taking a receiver for the first time in like twenty two years? 01:39:26 Speaker 5: It that never really affected me in the simple sense that like we were always so close. Although see they hit on a bunch of second rounders, Randall Cobb, DeVante Adams, Jordy Nelson. I mean all those guys went on to Will and are currently in like the Packers Hall of Fame, like they're they hit on those, but they they haven't. We were so close for so long, and then even after when I my last year was eighteen, they I think nineteen twenty had two of those NFC championship games and you're sitting there going off we had just you know, one more wide receiver one or wide receiver two to Davante, But no, to me, it meant nothing. But I think it was the perfect pick for the crowd for that energy. For like to it was electric the way the draft. I mean, I just assumed you'd have equal parts fan base of all you know, thirty two franchise, but it was like ninety five percent Packers fans. 01:40:18 Speaker 2: It was a celebration for Green Bay. 01:40:20 Speaker 5: It was unbelievable. You think, like on a game, then there's seventy seven thousand fans, two hundred thousand on like day one. I mean, it was. It was awesome. It was electric, and so I tried to tell everyone lost my voice. I'm like, it was it was fun. We had a good time. 01:40:30 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:40:31 Speaker 4: I can't believe how they were able to get everybody in there because it seemed like it was easy for everyone to move around. But it's just crazy how it's a small town and it was just big historic stadium just sitting there. 01:40:40 Speaker 2: It was. 01:40:41 Speaker 4: It was awesome to see. 01:40:42 Speaker 2: We got to before we wrap up. The NFL schedules do release on May fourteenth, and fan Duel has NFL futures which can be parlayed. Do you have any early predictions for future parlays. 01:40:56 Speaker 5: On what only? 01:40:58 Speaker 2: Yeah, like on the season, the schedule has not came out yet, it comes out. 01:41:02 Speaker 5: Well, we we know the season opener, right, Dallas and the Eagles, or we could we could we could bet the money line on that or. 01:41:09 Speaker 4: Well, I'm thinking, like, what do you think wins that game? 01:41:11 Speaker 2: I think Commanders take the NFC East. 01:41:16 Speaker 5: I think Philadelphia is still the big dog there. 01:41:19 Speaker 4: What about the. 01:41:22 Speaker 5: Man? They still got their saint. No, did they lose a couple of the D linemen right, I think in free agency and they lost they lost. 01:41:30 Speaker 2: I mean but there were some young Yeah, they got some they got some young. Yeah, they're just Philly. When they draft, they're just reloaded. 01:41:37 Speaker 5: When you think of how they wont I mean, Jalen Hurts played smart, Say Kwon did his thing. They had arguably the best O line in D line. I mean, you know, yeah, they're going to be the favorite going on. Well that's what I think. I mean, Yeah, what's his name? Jayden uh Daniels was It was fun to watch, but like he had to put the team on his back. I feel like with Philadelphia they're more sustained. It it's a full team there, they're gonna be able to sustain success provided their no you know, hangover. But I feel like, you know, Hurts doesn't seem like a guy. He seems like he's got his head on straight. Say you know, they seem like they got to the right pieces in place to do it, to go after it again. 01:42:10 Speaker 4: It seems they feel least like ten years the Eagles have had great leadership and that has been a great like they've just been handling their their stuff well. 01:42:17 Speaker 2: Everywhere they go. You got the Eagles winning the East. What other team do you have taken their division? 01:42:24 Speaker 3: Uh? 01:42:25 Speaker 5: Bills, let's talk about NFS. Okay, you have AFC Uh yeah, Bills. 01:42:30 Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta. 01:42:32 Speaker 4: Take on the Bills. 01:42:33 Speaker 2: I think the Bill. 01:42:34 Speaker 4: I think this is the Bill's year super Bowl. I think this is finally the year they get done. This is finally the year Josh Allen gets over the hump. 01:42:41 Speaker 5: What did Who's digs with? Is he with? 01:42:44 Speaker 4: He's with the Patriots? Which I think the Patriots. Let me see there over unders on wins this year. 01:42:51 Speaker 2: I think the Patriots can get a little spicy. 01:42:53 Speaker 4: I think so too. Do you think they're winning the division? 01:42:56 Speaker 5: But I think do you think they'll get better because of talent acquisition or I think both. 01:43:01 Speaker 4: Yeah, they definitely have more talent. They've spent more in the in salary than they have I think since Tom was there early and Rabel like he gets he has the voice understand like he's a great coach. Seven and a half is a lot. 01:43:16 Speaker 5: There is their quarterback Buddy Yeah, which he played well. 01:43:21 Speaker 4: People are talking about is. 01:43:24 Speaker 2: Who do you think is gonna take the the NFC North. 01:43:30 Speaker 5: I think Detroit. I'm interested to see how Buddy from Michigan does for uh J J. McCarthy Minnesota. You know, they've obviously got a great team of Vikings, but Detroit is just they've got that it factor right now until someone the yeah, until someone you know, deep rosters are right there, you know, I think that'll be the best division. 01:43:59 Speaker 4: I NFC North, in the NFC East. 01:44:02 Speaker 5: I love watching the AFC North, though. 01:44:04 Speaker 2: I feel like the AFC West is gonna be fun this year too. With bow Nicks in the second year, you got the Chargers, Harball in his second year with Herbert Pete Carroll with the Raiders still they're probably like you know, they'll probably have the worst are the longest odds going in to win the division. But I feel like between the Chiefs, Broncos, and Chargers, like, that's gonna be a really fun division to watch. 01:44:24 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Broncos would be cool. I just I could see the Chargers winning that division. You see Harball on rich Eisen telling about how he's having dreams like JP was having. He's had a dream. I woke up in the morning. I was like, I got to get Justin Herbert to the Hall of Fame. I've gotta do it. He's the best man is man, He's got it, He's got his guys. Yeah, let me get the Chargers on that future. Let me get the Chargers taking the AFC West. I'm jumping on that trail. 01:44:53 Speaker 2: And I kind of want to jump on the Broncos. 01:44:57 Speaker 4: I kind of like the biggest question mark for me is the a FC South. 01:45:02 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, buddy, the a FC South is. 01:45:06 Speaker 4: But it's like, yeah, Texans is your obvious choice to win that division. But then Jacksonville like they're always like good but not good. The Titans have like everything but said out loud there in a rebuild, the Coults are kind of lost as a franchise right now. 01:45:21 Speaker 2: Texans are winning that one. 01:45:24 Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be closer than you think. Yeah, yeah, that does mean they're gonna lose. 01:45:30 Speaker 2: Ah. 01:45:31 Speaker 4: Fuck, that ain't andy. I can see the Titans making it. It really just depends on camera. 01:45:38 Speaker 2: Can see the Titans making it, depends on wars Is stud It seems like he you know. 01:45:45 Speaker 4: I'll tell you what. He came out with the what was the Savannah Savannah bananas. There's a clip a couple of months ago about him and should have Saner, should have Sanders want to make a song and he goes, no, I do football. That's what I do. I do football. Now he's coming out with the Savannah bananas. 01:46:02 Speaker 5: Let's keep the main thing the main thing, right, Yeah, it's all the rookies. 01:46:07 Speaker 4: I'm just saying, man, he has that viral clip that goes out about him being, hey, I'm a football player. When you look up Kim Warden. 01:46:13 Speaker 7: It's all the draft class and he's the leader of that class. But he's just gonna act like he's too good to be with the boys. 01:46:19 Speaker 4: Get in the film room, man, why. 01:46:21 Speaker 2: Does it feel like you're you're going against Jack right now? Like jack'sro he's. 01:46:24 Speaker 4: Going against the city I'm not going against the city. 01:46:30 Speaker 3: No, no, no. 01:46:32 Speaker 4: I love Nashville. I love the Titans. 01:46:34 Speaker 1: I do. 01:46:34 Speaker 4: It's a joke. Relax. He want to make a song. He says, he doesn't do anything but football, but now he's out the Savannah Bananas. 01:46:42 Speaker 7: With his football team, weird football. 01:46:46 Speaker 4: In his football stadium. Weird take bro weird take all Boys onward. 01:46:51 Speaker 5: But a curse. 01:46:52 Speaker 1: What's the first name? Javon Curse? Did just video? 01:46:56 Speaker 4: Yes, Oh my god, he's like forty something, dude. He is still he stacked. 01:47:04 Speaker 1: Stacked dude, Like I feel like Terrell Owens is always the guy that gets resurfaced of how they're still jacked, which I don't know if y'all saw him racing Tyreek Hill, No, dude barely lost to him. 01:47:16 Speaker 2: Is this a cat that kind of looks like Drell? 01:47:19 Speaker 1: I'm saying like he's like yeah, it's like, okay, there's Curse your percentage. 01:47:28 Speaker 4: He is, He's got it, rookie highlights. Insane dude. He is his his movement, his bend was crazy. Yeah. See if you can pull that photo up, s Dvon Curse, Savannah Bananas. He's on the he's on the pitching mound. 01:47:48 Speaker 1: And after this, we'll we got to get into Cam Newton and. 01:47:53 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right, you're absolutely right. 01:47:58 Speaker 5: What do you want to get into. 01:47:59 Speaker 4: We'll talk about it. 01:48:00 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:48:01 Speaker 4: I did see a click of Clay too that I sent to will Or then I said to Will and I was just thought I was admiring Clay's effort but kind of pulled off on a play during the super Bowl. 01:48:12 Speaker 5: Super Bowl, we won that game. Let's get over it all, right, Look at this man? Oh yeah, oh yeah, looks like how old is he? Like mid forties? 01:48:23 Speaker 1: Yeah, at least, I. 01:48:24 Speaker 4: Mean good for him man. Yeah, from and the nickname. 01:48:32 Speaker 2: Ah yeah, play of yours Clay. We always hear the breakdown from Cam Newton on the one where he's like, you're like, watch the wheel, watch the wheel roun He's like, oh, you've been watching film us too, watch this. 01:48:43 Speaker 5: Yeah, Like I like, I know people people think like that should be well, yeah, people think I should be upset about that. But so we always had signals in the we go through a meeting and your DB's and linebackers would be tipped off the signals, you know, like I'm sure they'd be watching a rod we be watching Cam. So one of his things was I think when he went like, you know, Hulkogan flex and they run the wheel route off that. So the bigger issue is how is me as a pass rusher alerting the DBS and linebackers about you know, route concepts. Cuse watch watch McCaffrey here, Kay, he runs the angle route now without talking with without talking with Cam or you know, is he running that wheel route right now or does he break it off? Because Olsen pins either Martinez like you can see right there, they don't take it, and then three looks like he's becoming the new number two. He cuts back in he's white ass open like, so, yeah, it looks bad to me because I study my play film. I knew the route that was coming. As a pass rusher, I'm not even coverage and he he makes it happen. But to me, like, I'd love to have a conversation with Cam be like because he you know, Cam hasn't sad anything because he knew I was watching film. That's why he said, oh, you've been watching film, like watch this, Like, yeah, I don't know if they if they switched it up that week, if he just if cmc ran an option route off it. But what I'm most disappointed in is why I'm the one calling it. You know what I'm saying That gets me. It seems that's me fire that because I'm I'm a pass rusher, right, but I'm in I'm in meeting rooms, you know, being my little student of the game. Because there's times when I got to be in coverage and I go, oh, okay, hey, we got the we got the wheel route coming. Nobody else is clued into it. That's what gets me fired about the club, Like I like, yeah, I Cam made a great play, Like I'll, you know, let me give the guy his flowers, like we just talked about at my expense. But you know what I'm saying, Like everybody wants to make it a big deal, like oh, I'm like, bro, I'm a pass rushing on this. And in fact, I'm pissed because I went to do a spin move and I saw the guard lining me up and I tried to pull out of it and got, you know, thrown out the club right here. Nobody's upset about that, but he knew, Yeah, he knew. I was watching a film. I love to chat with Cam about that. 01:50:48 Speaker 2: I got nothing and you're on the other side of the field too. So I went to it. 01:50:51 Speaker 5: He watches I'll go, I go for a spin move and I see the guard just like oh nope, and then I just get thrown out. 01:50:56 Speaker 2: Like damn, you're right too, because either way, even if it was a wheel rode like that would have still been. 01:51:01 Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying, guys. That's so I'm on the side of looking at it before I know it goes ro and I'm like, like, you know, it's tough to be a field captain when you're you know, you're on the first line of defense. That's why playing that inside spot was always so much fun because you can get guys move and you can talk about route concepts. I was That's what I'm most disappointed in right there. 01:51:20 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they probably did. Honestly, they probably had such a one that they probably sell. 01:51:25 Speaker 5: But that's why I. 01:51:27 Speaker 2: Cam. 01:51:28 Speaker 5: I want to holler at him and be like, yeah, hey, hey, on this play, Like, let me know, was that the actual play? Did they did you option off it? Did you know? Because I called it? You know, whatever it may be, but I knew that, like, that's that's the type of stuff I stud I'd rather people be like, helay, how did you know that route concept? 01:51:41 Speaker 2: Yeah, study my film tell you like, yeah, we were one hundred percent. We knew we had to change. 01:51:46 Speaker 5: Something and not that which I'd feel a little bit more like all right, good, you know, like I knew it. I knew it was coming. 01:51:54 Speaker 4: Yeah, my boy, is that one of those things After the game you sit in the team meeting room, you standalo, Hey, fellas, we got to be we gotta be more away of We. 01:52:02 Speaker 5: Were so young right there. I think we had like a rookie at safety and you know, it's like it's just I forget what year that was, like seventeen, you just you know, we I think we didn't win many games that year. It just it was the beginning of the end, so to speak. 01:52:17 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's tough. 01:52:20 Speaker 2: Point the bud light question. Then we ask every guest, you know, how people would do anything for a bud light? What would you do anything for? 01:52:29 Speaker 5: I heard the floor safe family. I would I do anything for a private jet. 01:52:37 Speaker 1: Big turkey if your big Turkey hunter? 01:52:39 Speaker 5: Yeah no, I do enjoy turkey. Yeah, sure, I like I like, uh, dude, every time I drive past, you know, on sixty five, I see those big billboards for the power Ball in the mega millions. Like, man, so I love to I love to think I'm a dreamer, you know. So I put myself out there three hundred, four hundred and five hundred million, you know, like what you would do with that? And I played my My wife just like laughs at me when I do this, I'm like, babe, what would you what would you do? What would you do if you had this much money? So yeah, I guess well, I mean that doesn't sound good when you say it like that. But you guys team me up. When I'm coming on with questions, I'm gonna be asked too, so I can have good answer. 01:53:16 Speaker 2: We do a better job of that. We can do a better job. 01:53:18 Speaker 5: I mean, I'll give you my honest take on it. But like some of the stuff like what is your like what is your whatever you call it? And you're fixed with your sandwiches, like you could. 01:53:27 Speaker 4: Have done a better job, done better. 01:53:28 Speaker 2: Du For sure, for sure we'll learning because you are part of the family. 01:53:31 Speaker 5: Hey, you know, you know what I do anything for is it is a good back. Right now, is a healthy back. You know, I'm thirty eight, this bad I gotta I gotta go up that l seven right there is just acting up a nice back, you know, a younger back. 01:53:46 Speaker 2: Hey, we're gonna get it right. 01:53:47 Speaker 5: We will some accountabilit buddy act. 01:53:49 Speaker 4: That's good. One one surgery, the other ones doing anything. 01:53:51 Speaker 5: But I don't want surgery. I'm just saying there. I've gotten so desperate that you almost hope that they're like, oh, you got something pushing on you know your nerve here? You just real quick. 01:54:00 Speaker 2: You don't want it to be in the game where you have to kind of play the long game and have to stay disciplined. 01:54:05 Speaker 5: I recognize that that's it, but as I'm not ready to commit to that, right, Okay, I'm not ready to commit to that. 01:54:11 Speaker 2: We'll work together. 01:54:12 Speaker 5: Let me know how each other. Let me know when you start going to four to three to two to one, and then I'll buy in. 01:54:17 Speaker 4: Okay, all right, let me ask you this, going back on the power Ball, if you did win and it's at five, not tell you, but what's the first purchase you're buying. 01:54:28 Speaker 5: I'd probably try and buy the land around my current property. 01:54:33 Speaker 4: Try or just do do. Yeah, it's just fucking happened, and make it happen. Yeah. Sorry, what do you want this? 01:54:39 Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, no problem. Seems like the bestments are doing really well, doing very well. 01:54:44 Speaker 2: How much have you spent in one visit for the lottery, like get in lottery? 01:54:49 Speaker 5: One hundred dollars actually when I was in Green Bay, not this last time, but I go in there. I just dropped. Let me get fifty tickets. This is back in Green Magasin. You know, if it gets up to like a billion dollars, like that's. 01:54:58 Speaker 4: Usually anytime you see the b did you guys? 01:55:00 Speaker 5: He says, And then I sit there, I sit there and then I get no numbers. I'm never playing this again. I'm never hey, I'm never doing rehab on my back again. And then I get hurt. You know, it's. 01:55:11 Speaker 4: To win the lottery. 01:55:13 Speaker 5: Yeah, god, that would be that's hundreds of millions. 01:55:18 Speaker 4: Just in your pocket. Yeah, you want the lump sum or you want to do it monthly, give me that lump Yeah, oh it's actually six percent text. 01:55:25 Speaker 5: Don't care. I'll take four hundred million. 01:55:28 Speaker 4: Yeah right there. Just imagine. 01:55:32 Speaker 5: That's what I like doing. I like imagining. I hate all the people you've already been blow so all right, okay, let me dream, all right, Let me dream. 01:55:40 Speaker 4: Sorry, you were super talented and hard working. It all worked out for you. 01:55:42 Speaker 5: But let me get some luck as well. Yeah I got six bucks in my pocket. Yeah, I want three tickets, random numbers. I'll share it with you up front, buddy, make friends with all at the quick trip out there. 01:55:53 Speaker 4: Yeah, you do got to break off whover bought you those tickets. 01:55:57 Speaker 5: I think, well, I think they do. I think that you know, who ever sells it, they get a cut of it, not of yours. But like you know, the lottery, I think. 01:56:04 Speaker 4: We need to look that up. When you look that up. Yeah, yeah, all the really nice gases just like they won, they want it. 01:56:11 Speaker 5: There's always like an incentive and then more then more people will go there to buy the ticket, thinking there's a lucky ticket. 01:56:16 Speaker 4: And it's never in like a busy area. It's always like some right. 01:56:19 Speaker 5: Got to drive out in the middle of Yeah, somewhere. 01:56:22 Speaker 4: Might be a ball for us too. We just all drive out three hours some random spot and buy a But like a ten thousand were the lottery tickets. Could you imagine I'm buying a plane, That's the first thing I'm doing. 01:56:33 Speaker 5: I've thought about this, go ahead. I don't know if i'd buy it or just would you just because think about it. You know you're gonna spend seventy three million, give your tab. 01:56:42 Speaker 4: I'm gonna get one that's about five six years old. Oh really Yeah, because the appreciation is crazy. 01:56:46 Speaker 5: Yeah, more thirty forty thirty five. Well why don't you just pocket that and then just have it on like a golf stream, you know, whatever it is, and that way you just charter it at whatever. You don't have the upkeep pilots. I think there's something nice about having that, But are you going to use it as much as you think you are? 01:57:00 Speaker 4: If I'm still doing that, This. 01:57:01 Speaker 5: Is how deep I dove into this. 01:57:03 Speaker 4: Yeah, but think about this. You're sitting there, we're all hanging out in your backyard. You own all the land, and we're talking like, man, you know what, UF she's going down to Miami tonight, and it's. 01:57:11 Speaker 5: Like, let me call my broker. No, let me call my pilot. 01:57:14 Speaker 4: My pilot, Hey, get the jet ready, the boys are coming over right now. Because a broker, it's like there's a bunch of back and forth or running numbers on you, all this stuff. You just call the guy, Hey, someone you know yes, mister Matthews. And by the way, we want sandwiches and I'm not paying to hundred dollars for thank you. 01:57:29 Speaker 2: That's right. 01:57:31 Speaker 4: It's called the call pack. 01:57:33 Speaker 5: What happens here? Will? I don't know what are you mind? 01:57:38 Speaker 2: Oh? With the with the money? 01:57:39 Speaker 4: Yeah? 01:57:39 Speaker 2: Oh, I'd want to get a jet, the jets jet. 01:57:42 Speaker 1: Yeah, you ain't going anywhere? 01:57:46 Speaker 4: Bust it? What happened man? Bus? What happened jet? 01:57:50 Speaker 2: Where would you go anywhere? 01:57:53 Speaker 4: We'll just go to Bontare come back. 01:57:56 Speaker 2: Yo're tripping, y'all are stuck to something that's not even there. Shay, I don't go outside. You say it. On travel, I hit the I hit I hit the streets all the time. We travel all the time. 01:58:06 Speaker 4: We do travel all the time. 01:58:08 Speaker 2: Aren't you taking your first trip to Europe this year? 01:58:10 Speaker 4: Yeah? 01:58:11 Speaker 2: Your first trip? 01:58:12 Speaker 4: How mantime has you been in. 01:58:13 Speaker 1: Europe when I was twenty two years old? 01:58:17 Speaker 2: Hey? 01:58:17 Speaker 5: Actually? 01:58:18 Speaker 2: Three? 01:58:18 Speaker 5: Three times? 01:58:19 Speaker 4: Oh for real? 01:58:19 Speaker 5: Yeah? 01:58:20 Speaker 1: You've been to Europe three times, two. 01:58:21 Speaker 4: More times than me. 01:58:22 Speaker 2: Yeah? 01:58:23 Speaker 4: And mine was for football? 01:58:24 Speaker 2: Yeah? 01:58:24 Speaker 1: Yeah, do what? 01:58:27 Speaker 5: Actually? 01:58:28 Speaker 2: No, I went to Munich, Germany, foot London and uh Italy. 01:58:34 Speaker 1: You've been to Europe one time on your own time. 01:58:38 Speaker 2: I've still went three times. 01:58:41 Speaker 4: He's crossed that pond. 01:58:42 Speaker 2: I've still hit the Hoper House in Munich, Germany. I've still like enjoyed the culture and complaining about everything being small. 01:58:50 Speaker 5: My When I was with the Rams, I was supposed to but I was nursing a broken jaw, so I missed that. But uh no, I'm been. I'm been to Europe. Good old boy it up. I'd like to, But I got these kids. You know, they need to learn how to eat better so that way I can take them on mymorifications. This is the this is what I talk to them all the time about, Like we can't just have macaroni pizza, French fries and act like we're gonna be okay for seven days. We're not. You know, you can't have mom put you to bed every night. 01:59:18 Speaker 4: Got it? Yeah, we got to learn how to operate a little bit better. 01:59:21 Speaker 5: You know. It brings it all back commissions. 01:59:23 Speaker 4: Do we feel good? 01:59:24 Speaker 2: Boys? 01:59:24 Speaker 4: Is there anything we want to say before we jump off? Episode three twenty eight? We feel good? We're happy. 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