Josh Pate Breaks Down Winter Storm Fern + Are Indiana & Miami Here To Stay? | Bussin'
Recorded: January 26th 2026 | On this episode of Bussin’ With The Boys, Taylor Lewan welcomes Josh “The Weatherman” Pate for a conversation that somehow blends natural disasters with college football chaos — perfectly on brand. The show opens with Taylor breaking down why it is just him on the show as Will is stuck without power and phone service. Josh joins Taylor to breakdown what exactly made Winter Storm Fern so dangerous and catastrophic. He gets into the science behind freezing rain, why it’s so dangerous, and what it means for cities like Nashville when Mother Nature decides to go nuclear.
Once the storms pass, it’s time to talk ball. The boys react to the CFP National Championship and give their biggest takeaways from the title game, including what it means for the future of the power balance in college football. They debate whether Indiana’s run is a flash in the pan or a sign of real staying power, and question if Miami is headed for a tougher road than expected next season.
To wrap it up, the crew looks ahead at some of the sport’s biggest brands and their outlooks moving forward. Michigan and Alabama both get the microscope as the boys break down expectations, pressure, and what success looks like next year. As well as what it will look like for Ohio State after they hired Arthur Smith and what that move could mean for the Buckeyes offensively. If you are in need of an escape from everything, look no further than here. Come join the boys for a fun hang and fun listen. Please stay safe out there and as always, big hugs tiny kisses.
TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Intro
2:33 Weekend Recap
6:19 KNF Clean Take
12:09 Is Taylor Going To Bring Zips To Nashville?
23:20 UFC 324 Recap
32:49 JOSH PATE INTERVIEW STARTS
33:00 Will Is In Hell With No Power
35:14 Josh “The Weatherman” Pate
47:11 Chasing Tornadoes
57:46 Light At The End Of The Tunnel For Nashville?
1:01:29 The Science Of Freezing Rain/The Damage It Can Cause
1:14:30 CFP National Championship Takeaways
1:19:36 Is Indiana Here To Stay?
1:25:09 Is Miami Going To Struggle?
1:29:39 Will Michigan Be Back?
1:34:18 Alabama & Kalen DeBoer Outlook
1:40:07 Ohio State Hiring Arthur Smith
1:46:30 Bud Light Question
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00:00:05 Speaker 1: All right, we're good. 00:00:06 Speaker 2: You like that, Busting with the boys, hanging with the face, betting on the game. No woman's gonna tell us what you do. You can not be over here just drinking beer and making nine over. 00:00:36 Speaker 3: Baby, I'm hanging. 00:00:38 Speaker 2: With the fellers. He's busting with the boys. 00:00:44 Speaker 4: Bro, Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another wonderful episode of Busting with the Boys. This is episode three sixty five four, Episode three sixty four four, and hey, listen, let's give everybody on this bus a round of applause. For those who have internet connection or are willing to watch Bus with the Boys on YouTube, please do me a favor and subscribe. And if you are already subscribe, sending a text out to somebody letting them know, please just subscribe to Bust with the Boys. It helps us a whole bunch and allows us to keep doing this job at a very high level. And it's all thanks to our viewer. If you're listening to us for sitting in a car right now, appreciate you listening on Spotify, Apple, wherever you find your podcast. Make sure you're please following us for all of our episodes that come out. Bust with the Boys, presented by FANDO Sportsbook, America's number one sportsbook. Will has a read here. He's not here today now. If you're watching this on Tuesday, you ought to know that tonight is another Michigan versus Nebraska showdown. Not football, but two very strong college basketball teams. Me one slightly stronger than the other. I say, looking at Will with piercing eyes. That's on in the car. I just wanted to tell you that if you open up the Fando Sportsbook Gap today you'll find a solid fifty percent Nebraska versus Michigan pbt you can also get. You can also use that on whatever type of bet you want. But if you're walking with the Boys, you'll go with Michigan. Obviously Will is going to go Nebraska, but we've also got a little side action going on here as well. Make sure you visit fando dot com, slash bus and often to that promo and place yourself a bet on one of the biggest games in college football. If you guys want a little breakdown on those games, I gave it to you on Monday's recap. It's as much as I know about basketball. I gave you everything I had. I put my absolute heart out there. If you don't love it, and you're a basketball lover, hey, listen, man, that's live. Bam bam, bam bam. Frank Sinatra said that first Now, this weekend took place in Nashville, Tennessee. It took place all over the world, but in Nashville specifically, we had an ice storm. Hundreds of thousands of people are without power right now. We're putting them in our thoughts and prayers. We break all that down with our guests today. You'll see our guest Josh Pate. He is a great weatherman. He knows all of the things. It's absolutely incredible. But our hearts go out to everybody that is dealing with power outages, food supplies, staying warm. It's like it's a very very difficult time on this bus. We've had a couple guys in the back right now, Jeremy Clump, Jack McPherson, Mitch Carsley. The boys are sitting back here. Made a trek just to get this podcast done. Why we love you, We love the viewer, We love this job. Will was unable to make it. A handful of other guys were able to make it. But we have a nice little skeleton crew to try to brighten up your day in terms of chaos. If you're one of the states, cities, places that have been affected by these insane storms, which seems like it's over half of the country that has gotten hit pretty hard. This weekend or Wednesday last week, Will and I headed over to Samcom in La. It was a great time we had, but light out there. Neutral was out there, First Form South Forsella was there. We had a great time. We had the opportunity to go on stage. We had ourselves a nice little script. And what they're telling us about the Samcom event, it's a four or five day long week. Everybody getting together. They're having a good time. They're breaking bread, they're having a couple of drinks. So this crowd is on their last day before Samcom is all over. We were told crowd might be a little stiff. Okay, they've had late nights, they've had early mornings. They're out there networking, have a good time. Think of all the things you do when you're trying to network in La for Samcom. Well, I go out there. We have a script that we go over for about five minutes. Steve Wolf, he's out there helping with Neutral and Boys. I'll say we got a couple of good laughs, got a couple of good laughs from a crowd that seemed like they were't going to be a great crowd, end up being a phenomenal crowd, and the Samcom event was absolutely incredible. From that moment, we get done a little bit early. I have a flight leaving later in the afternoon to Vegas to spend one day there. We were going to do a whole vlog with zoof of boxing, gambling and obviously UFC three twenty four that took place on Paramount. But with these storms coming in, my wife and my two kids, they're at home. I want to make sure that I'm there for them. So my decision was, I'm already in LA, I'll go for one night. I'll fly out the next day, get in and out. 00:04:56 Speaker 1: Boom. 00:04:57 Speaker 4: So I get on a quick flight, we cruise over there, hang out with Dana and the fellows. We get a nice fun night on our hands. I wake up the next morning, I jump on a plane, and I'm so grateful that I jumped on that plane. Because Saturday happens a little bit of a storm, nothing too crazy. Sunday morning power starts to go out everywhere, ice starts to fall. It's a full breakdown in here with Josh pay of how catastrophic this storm really was and how a lot of people from the North. I lived in the North for four years, being at the University of Michigan and in Arbor snow falls all the time. There's always winter storms taking place, and the North people just understand how to operate with snow. And Nashville, as much as I've been here, we've gotten better and better at the Snow Park. This is not a snowstorm. This is an ice storm. And it's incredibly chaotic and beautiful at the same time. And I say that in a weird way because there's so much chaos. People's lives are being so affected. I woke up this morning seeing trees drooped down by ice, and there's such a level of calm with all the power outages taking place with no cars on the road, that it's a weird beauty about it. But it takes so much away from all of us. It's just insane, man, to see all these people being affected, and it truly sucks. But I'm glad I got left the West to get back to my family because I would feel horrible if I was not there with them. So I guess we're going to start off for a little clean take. Clean take. Let's have a clean take real quick. And I think that's just being there for people when they need you most, being there for people when they need you most. I have a neighbor who has a pacemaker. Their power is out. We're lucky enough to have a generator at our house, so our house is for the most part powered, but we're the only one I feel like within a mile that has unless they have a generator as well that has power. My neighbor has a pacemaker that needs to be charged. So this morning, before I even got there, I came to the shop. My wife sends me a text, Hey, you got to go to the neighbor's house. You got to grab their pacemaker so we can charge it for them in order for him. Essentially, this guy's got to stay alive. And we get there, him and his wife they me at the door. They're kind of explaining to me, Hey, we appreciate you guys doing this, but easy exchange. Grab the pacemaker, plug that thing in. Once I get back from the shop, I'll go bring it back to them. But just in times of chaos, in times of all a bunch of bad things happened to a lot of people, to be able to help is just It's a very nice feeling. And I would only hope that if somebody else was in the position that I was in, that they would do the same thing for me. All the boys have rallied around each other, the group chests been firing off, boys have been checking in each other. A lot of guys don't have power. Jack my fear of some one of the lucky few to have power right now. But Jeremy clump making the track thirty minutes? How was that little drive, buddy? Was that just insane? 00:07:41 Speaker 3: It really actually wasn't bad at all. 00:07:42 Speaker 5: I have on one like back road I gotta go through was pretty cleared off, and then I'm mostly highway the whole way here, and the highway was pretty good outside of what's the all the way to the left lane that you guys have the hov they just decided to not even know they didn't touch it. 00:07:57 Speaker 3: That one is just that's ruined. 00:08:00 Speaker 5: I don't know when that'll ever be a lane again in Nashville, but it's it's retired for now, but there's like two lanes wide open. 00:08:05 Speaker 3: The worst road is the one right here. 00:08:08 Speaker 4: Yeah, this road right here on the outside, dude, terrible, that's the worst road other than that. Like I was driving through all over the city trying to get over here. There's a bunch of trees knocked down, but the roads themselves are actually in a good spot in Nashvill's done a great job of kind of like rallying the troops and working their ass off to get things powered back up. 00:08:23 Speaker 3: The trees are crazy. 00:08:24 Speaker 5: I think it might have been your wife who shared a story on Instagram of like an aerial view of Nashville. 00:08:30 Speaker 4: Possible. Dude, It's just crazy and it looks like a tornado went through. 00:08:35 Speaker 5: It literally looks like a tornado through and there's just ice everywhere. 00:08:38 Speaker 4: It's nuts, ma'am, it really is. I've never seen a storm like this in my entire life. It's one of the craziest things I've ever witnessed. 00:08:45 Speaker 6: Clean take For me, I live closer to downtown, so there's something like obviously, don't get me wrong, this storm everybody losing power, like it one hundred percent sucks and like it's going to take a long time for everything to get back to normal. But like being downtown and where I'm at, like I have like a view of like the skyline. The city was so quiet and nobody on the roads. It was kind of like an eerie but cool kind of feeling because you're just looking around to be like, this is like a hustling a bustle in city, Like there's always cars going by, sirens and everything, but it was just dead quiet, and it was actually kind of like a cool thing to just kind of stand out on my balcony just like feel like just see the city in. 00:09:28 Speaker 1: Its most raw form. 00:09:30 Speaker 6: Yeah, clean take on like eerie feelings about a city. 00:09:35 Speaker 4: Clean take in moments of chaos, finding a bit of beauty, finding a bit of beauty. That's a clean take, Mitch, I like that take what he said. That's that's a Kevin Saner food clean take right there. I love it a lot. 00:09:46 Speaker 7: Do you boys got it? 00:09:47 Speaker 4: Clean takes? Clean takes out here? 00:09:51 Speaker 8: I would double down with yours is clean take. Just take every opportunity you can to help people out. Like you said, I was one of the fortunate ones. I did not lose power. People very close to me lost power. Two streets away, so almost as like the grid system shut off right before mine started, which was great. 00:10:09 Speaker 7: But we I live next. 00:10:11 Speaker 8: Door to one of my really good friends, two of them actually, and thankfully us not having power, we were able to host and welcome in a bunch of our friends who didn't have power, didn't have heat, they have kids, We had babies running around, so we were just kind of mixed between we're calling a house a and house be and just just lett it rip. Everyone's bringing what they have, their food, their blankets, and so when you just have an opportunity to get the community together through a kind of a stressful and chaotic time, take every opportunity you can just lend a helping hand. 00:10:42 Speaker 4: Nice clean take, Jack, clean take, clump, don't fuck this up. Now we got clean takes going. 00:10:48 Speaker 5: On well Heavan's Natural Foods. Clean take is when you go on a trip or you do something and there's like those memorable moments that just stick out in your head. And for me, for Sam Coom, when we went there's a moment when Taylor looks at me and he's like, if my day's gonna be bad, I'm gonna ruin someone else. 00:11:05 Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, and there's. 00:11:07 Speaker 5: Just that vibe of having fun in those moments, Like I just kept playing that story back in my head the whole weekend, the whole week I guess, and it was fun. 00:11:14 Speaker 4: So yeah, because the trip, like flying out to LA this time of year when we're still like in the very busy part, it was extremely inconvenient. There's no way around like clubs playing the optimism game. 00:11:25 Speaker 7: We go out the dinner I got. 00:11:26 Speaker 4: I have my gout scares that have stopped me from like really eating certain kinds of foods. So I go to this dinner with all the silver Try boys and I'm looking at the menu. I throw the menu to chat Gypt It's like, you can't eat any of this shit. Maybe some salad, that's about it. So we leave the dinner for like a two hour dinner and I'm fucking starving, and we get the car men and it's like overtired giggles and I'm just like, man, fuck this, I'm gonna make sure everybody else's day around me is ruined. It for the next twenty four hours. We end up having a good time though it was fun. 00:11:58 Speaker 5: Good time, and then Will was trying to ruin your day. Then it flipped like the next day because he. 00:12:03 Speaker 4: Yeah, Will was on some ship. I can't remember what he was saying. Yes, Will took a crazy shot at Zips when I well, I took a shot on Nashville about like the food, and I was like, there's not like a good healthy like quick spot you can go to around Nashville, like or a multitude of areas that like elevate like high die, like a high living dining in Nashville tops to the tops, like fast food like fried Chicken, unique places, tops the tops. But where's that middle class? Like I want to go to my local bar, my local sports bar kind of hangout area and just really feel it all and like enjoy it. And I was like, Zips would change everything for Nashville. What am I off on that? 00:12:45 Speaker 8: Jack? I mean there, I don't get me wrong. I love Zips, the Fasha, the wings. You can't beat it, can't beat it, especially under that Arizona sun no ice. But there are a handful of like Jonathan Sports Bar amazing. I mean it's franchise here, great has upscale dining, good beers, TVs everywhere. See, you don't even want to have a conversation about this because your mind is made up. I agree with you that ZIPS would change it, but there are options here. 00:13:11 Speaker 7: You just don't get out the thing's grill. 00:13:13 Speaker 4: It's a sports bar, Yeah, never heard of it. 00:13:15 Speaker 8: Why there's like three locations in the greater Nashville area. 00:13:18 Speaker 7: But I feel like you don't get out that. 00:13:20 Speaker 8: Much, like you're not Taylor Wand you're not gonna find Taylor Wand at a local national sports form. 00:13:25 Speaker 4: If there was a ZIPS, I would be there. 00:13:27 Speaker 1: So let me ask you this, why why don't you become a franchise franchise e franchise owner, franchiser and just bring one out here? 00:13:36 Speaker 4: I would if Zips would approach me with that idea, I would absolutely love to bring a ZIPS to Nashville. 00:13:41 Speaker 1: Is there like a reason it's only in Arizona or is there like. 00:13:45 Speaker 4: Oh, you're talking about the storyline of ZIPS. So there's a bar called Goldies that is over by a bunch of baseball fields in Arizona. Goldies is the og Zips. I don't know what happened, if there was a breakup that took place, but they are the og like Golden Wing type of spot that you go to and you're like, my god, it's incredible. They had a nice little arcade in the corner that corner, like the old old school, like you played the Simpsons game, a couple of like California Cruising type of games, but like very basic, but you go there after the baseball games go weet there somewhere in there, mid two thousands, I think like Zips just start popping the blow blast. I'm definitely getting my timeline wrong, but it seems like it's just an Arizona staple. Now, if this Arizona Staple wants to mention over across the country, over the East and hang out in Nashville, Tennessee, buddy, call me. 00:14:29 Speaker 7: I am in. 00:14:29 Speaker 4: I am all in on a Zips coming to Nashville. 00:14:32 Speaker 8: I feel like, if you want Zips, you've got to call them all I'll call them, I know, but like. 00:14:37 Speaker 6: Like legitimately with this, I am getting so hungry and want a Fakasha and Golden Wings extra show its extra crispy. 00:14:44 Speaker 4: Could you imagine like a Zips just sit in the middle of Germantown. 00:14:47 Speaker 7: Would you be. 00:14:48 Speaker 8: Worried though that, uh, something would be lost in the move, Like if you move the franchise or like a franchise here. 00:14:56 Speaker 7: Do you think it changes? 00:14:57 Speaker 8: Like, does the flavor taste different because you're an Arizona. 00:15:00 Speaker 4: Good question. I don't think the flavor tastes different. I would take I would essentially go down and find the best chefs of Zips and be like, take me through your process. So when we have to go train these individuals in Nashville, we we got to make them so passionate about a monico fication the Zips Golden Wings that they don't miss a step. The only way to be successful in business to have like minded people with similar passions towards what you're trying to build. That's what make things happen. And if we can find a few chefs out there, they can make Zips wings, which I'm telling you, delicacy, delicacy, You get that done. Boys were operating. So Will is being a bitch is basically what we're saying. 00:15:40 Speaker 5: Hearing Mitch just say how he's like craving, that makes me believe even more that Zips would rock here hearing someone speak about food that way, especially no offense. 00:15:49 Speaker 1: Mitch. 00:15:49 Speaker 3: Mitch is like a pickier eater, Oh for sure. 00:15:52 Speaker 5: Hearing him just say that he wants that makes me makes me fired up, dude. 00:15:57 Speaker 4: One of the greatest feelings I've ever had in my life, in my life is when we were all in Arizona and it's like, basically the whole squad's there and I've been talking, yeah, at the striper Bowl, I've been talking and talking and talking about zips and how great it is. And then the moment comes where I take them to my specific zips that I know is going to deliver. Every belly was full, every heart was happy, and every soul was cleansed, and I walked away. I sat in the back of that car on the way to wherever we were going next, looking out the window, smiling, knowing I just did God's work for my voice. 00:16:28 Speaker 8: And then there's a moment too where like, as you've just explained, it's like, what if they're having an off day and my whole reputation is out the windows, right, And if you'll only get one, bro, because that truly, if I think of all time greatest meals I've shared with my brothers, that goes up there. 00:16:45 Speaker 7: That's that's that's right up there. 00:16:47 Speaker 8: It's up there, and everything delivered that you said, And I love ordering with Taylor, especially at a place where he knows what to order, because you just sit back, relax and just let them take the driver. 00:16:58 Speaker 4: That, Hey, that's a clean taste, that's a clean a clean takes. 00:17:01 Speaker 7: Don't even look at them menu when you have. 00:17:03 Speaker 4: The pressure of like what am I gonna get? A couple things look kind of good, but I really don't know. Was the first time and someone's like, hey, do you guys want to do family style? And you're like, yeah, I'll do family style. I was like, do you mind if I just start going to the specific you want? You're like I'd like this, like no problem, and they order everything and you just sit back and then just cuisine clean clean take. 00:17:21 Speaker 8: If you've ever another clean take, if you ever have the pleasure of dining with Taylor at a family style meal, you will never go away from that spot feeling hungry. 00:17:32 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, buddy, Oh yeah. 00:17:34 Speaker 1: That's a pretty good complimentary. 00:17:36 Speaker 5: Yeah, which is so funny considering you left family style food so hungry. 00:17:41 Speaker 4: Yeah, like duck high and peering, steak high and peering. They brought pizzas. I'm thinking of myself. Twenty twenty six, I'm still on the ground, can't be eat no pizza. But yeah, dude, if we we go to eat and I know, like, hey, like we're not doing a split bill thing. I'm gonna pay for dinner. Like I don't want people to be like, oh, I kind of want they'd be sick to charge the primary. But it's like, no, bro, two of them we're doing through this. We're doing that whenever we go to out the vegacy and it's like, brother, we're putting a sort like there's gonna be multiple dishes that might not be touched. 00:18:12 Speaker 1: Right. 00:18:13 Speaker 4: We're talking about first world problems type of living, okay, because I want my boys to be fed and happy and healthy. Maybe not so healthy because of what the Zips does, but hey, I'm doing. 00:18:22 Speaker 6: I honestly think if we reached out to Zips like we could, you could busting with the boys, could legitimately get it out here. 00:18:31 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree. If if they're interested in partnering with us and we could franchise the Zips out here, Nash will never be the same. It'll be the Boom, It'll be the boom dot Com Boom Boom. 00:18:44 Speaker 1: Would we get our all like, would there'd be like a Jack mac Fakasha a clump curse for. 00:18:53 Speaker 4: Kasha vampire margarita, yeah something. Hey, we would have some specializies. What I'd also like to do if this was a bust with the boys type of thing, makes like a lot of things unique to it. Like we'll put the jerseys will have a classic sports bar feel, but everybody would have like a tag on their booth, like there would be a boot like a mcpheerson booth his boys, the raft the. 00:19:24 Speaker 7: Raft dude. 00:19:25 Speaker 4: And also like you guys know, there'd be a boy's not a big boozer anymore, but the zipper ritas they make there. Any person that's had a beverage at Zips and they had a zipper rita life changing, life changing. And we'd add a little Nashville to it as well. Out outdoors, have a little bit of some corn hole going on outdoor games. You can have a little fun while eating a Monica fukasha with that extra jalapeno dipping sauce. Are you fucking me right now, dude. 00:19:48 Speaker 7: I'll tell you right now. 00:19:49 Speaker 8: One neighborhood that desperately needs a good sports bar is Wedgwood, Houston, where I live, and that might be the best spot to telling you it's up and coming. 00:20:00 Speaker 7: Something to think about, something to think about. I'm so hungry right. 00:20:04 Speaker 4: Now, bro, I'm telling you, and I wouldn't want to take you to the National one just yet. I want to make sure that's down. I gotta take you to Viade Ventura and Hayden and get you in the corner at that Zips because I'm telling you because when I sit with you, I let the I let the waitress know, like, honey, sweetheart, baby, I eat here like once a year, and when I come in here, I eat to die. Like I'm trying. I'm trying to gorge myself. Tell the chef in the back to add a elextra love to all these dishes because I need this. And you know what they do. Every time they smile, they give me a wink. And the food's perfect. The food's perfect. 00:20:40 Speaker 1: Clean take. 00:20:40 Speaker 6: When when a waitress says like I got you, I'm gonna take care of you and they actually follow through. 00:20:46 Speaker 4: Yeah, that tip goes crazy, That tip goes nuts. 00:20:50 Speaker 7: Go to whatever, Yeah to whatever. 00:20:53 Speaker 4: Sometimes when I go to Zips, because hey, not only is a delicious also affordable, I'll match the bill with the tip. I'll match it if they do what you just said, Mitch, I'm gonna take care of you. Don't worry about it. 00:21:04 Speaker 7: You said, what, that's a clean flex. 00:21:06 Speaker 4: It's a clean flex, clean flights. 00:21:09 Speaker 2: Dude. 00:21:10 Speaker 4: You gotta have it, dude, you gotta have it. Just let's break down UFC three twenty four on Paramount real quick. All right, we ended up this episode to bring you Jim Beam. 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People were saying a couple of things about commercial steeking place with the walkouts are happening to me, dude, it's eight ninety nine. 00:23:41 Speaker 7: Quiit bitching And I didn't notice any commercial Like I know. 00:23:45 Speaker 5: I saw so many people complain about that, right bro, It was like a normal It felt like a normal flow is awesome. 00:23:50 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, how do you complain for not having to pay for a pay per view? 00:23:54 Speaker 8: Yeah, I feel like most of the commercials that I was noticing that it's kind of like out of the ordinary was it'd be like a picture in Make Sure where they'd still have the broadcast. 00:24:01 Speaker 7: Going on a smaller screen and then they throw. 00:24:03 Speaker 8: Up said advertising, which never bothers me. I'm you know, running to grab something or you know, I can go take it right. 00:24:09 Speaker 4: And let's not forget what commercials do for us to give us an opportunity to look at our phones, check in with people. If it's not stop actually over and over again, it's like watching a movie. It's like, I can't wait to talk about this when it's over. Now you get a little break here and there to talk about it. 00:24:21 Speaker 1: The way they're doing their bonuses, yeah. 00:24:23 Speaker 4: The bonuses are money. So where they're doing one hundred thousand dollars for fight of the night, and if you finish somebody, it's a twenty extra twenty five thousand. So if you finish somebody in a UFC fight, the person that finished the individual, they get twenty five thousand dollars on top of what they're already making. So now we're back into the rising tide lifts all boats. UFC fighters are loving this Paramount fight is the Paramount plus deal because their game is now also getting elevated. Their pockets are getting elevated. And this, dude, this this fight not disappoint at all. Sugar shot out of Malley song, you dong back and forth. People are a little upset because they think Sean Omelly should have not won that fight. 00:25:02 Speaker 8: I think it was a setup for a comeback. I mean, really, if if Sean lost that fight, his career in the UFC, by no means is it over. But it absolutely is in jeopardy for being main event cardworthy because that'd be his third loss in a row. Who knows what it is. I think I love seeing Sean win. I think America loves seeing Sean win Friend of the show. 00:25:22 Speaker 7: For end of the show. 00:25:23 Speaker 8: But man, that one hundred thousand dollars five bonus has to be going to Patty and Justin Geechee debt, and hopefully he goes straight to Patty because as he says, Scousers do not get knocked out, and he did not. I mean truly, that dude, I mean an absolute warrior. It's like every opportunity Justin Gachie had to knock him out and could have it feels like and Patty just I mean relentless. 00:25:48 Speaker 4: Relentless, was creative in his attacks. Kasey just kept coming in head down, getting into the body a little bit. Hit him multiple times. We're talking about Temple shots, Josh shots. There was a graphic that came up and it was like significant hits and it shows the body. Yeah, fifty four I think we were in the third round. Fifty four significant hits to the head for Patty the batty and he's still getting up his face. My god, at the end of the fight looks crazy. But even when he's sitting there and I love how they do the corners and then you can hear the people talking about what the strategy is and all that, Patty's talking normal during Like he while his face is all deformed, he's still going out there and fighting, swinging his ass off. Gee chie dude. A lot of credit to him. There's a lot of rumors about him possibly hanging up the gloves, putting the gloves on the canvas when it was all finished. He obviously did not do that. He is the innerm Belt now. 00:26:36 Speaker 1: Well. 00:26:36 Speaker 4: I can't wait to see what with him. One of my favorite things about UFC is after these big fights take place, whoever the winner is a bunch of new lore or old memories come out. And one thing I saw was somebody tried to mug Justin Geichee at gun point one time in a car and Justin Gaichee, the news report was showed the mugger and their face was destroyed, and this person pulled a gun on Gai Chee. Gee Chee disarms them and beat the shit out of him. 00:27:01 Speaker 8: Like what that's a dream scenario as a UFC fight dream states, go ahead and try. 00:27:06 Speaker 3: Yes, right dude. 00:27:08 Speaker 4: And he's got a crazy quote. 00:27:10 Speaker 9: Uh. 00:27:10 Speaker 4: He was doing like a podcast one time and he's like, if one man can hold you down, to two could rape you. He said that publicly, and I'm watching it. And after you watch Gechee fight, you're you're looking at going holy shit, He's right, He's right. I see the room got a little stiff when I about that, right, Jesus Christ. 00:27:28 Speaker 3: Boys, post fight was awesome too of that one. 00:27:31 Speaker 9: Uh. 00:27:32 Speaker 5: He said something to Patty along lines of like Patty mentioned pre fight that he's gonna bust his face up or we'll see how your face looks, and he's like, looks like your face is the one bust up or something cool like that just like in the moment to even have that ready to. 00:27:44 Speaker 3: Go as sick. 00:27:45 Speaker 5: I liked Patty because if I'm him, I probably would have been complaining a little more about that thumb to the eye. I think that really messed multiple and he I'm so surprised post fight he wasn't like that. That really impacted the fight. He lost with class, said like justin Gaigee's a legend. 00:28:00 Speaker 4: It was awesome growing up to watch him. And it takes a moment, takes a good probably minute and a half just talk about men's mental health. 00:28:05 Speaker 3: Awesome. 00:28:06 Speaker 1: Yeah, Patty seems like a Patty seems like a really good dude, all time guy. Just the Scottish accent is legendary. 00:28:14 Speaker 9: Yeah, clean take. 00:28:15 Speaker 4: He's not Scottish Scouser. 00:28:19 Speaker 7: It's from Liverpool, is what Scousers are. 00:28:22 Speaker 1: That may be the best accent of all. 00:28:24 Speaker 4: Time that might be up there. That's a take. 00:28:27 Speaker 1: Australians up there, Australian. 00:28:29 Speaker 4: Clean take, because that's a lot of opinions out there. Australian accent goes hard, just accents in general. 00:28:35 Speaker 8: If you've never seen the viral video, it's been around a lot, but it's a ring doorbell footage and Patty the Batty shows up and he's like, miss just like, my dog just took a messy, sloppy shit out here. He's like, do you have a bag? And she's like, is that pozzy the bots. He's like, don't worry about it, sweetheart, I'll be there. 00:28:54 Speaker 7: I'll clean. He's like, are you shure it's a really sloppy ship. It's like, dude, a guy just going up on the ring clean. 00:29:02 Speaker 4: Jack killed. 00:29:06 Speaker 8: Yeah, but yeah, I can appreciate a man who's willing to clean up his dog ship when when no one is looking, what do you. 00:29:13 Speaker 4: Do behind closed doors? The true character of a man right there. I like it so but this, I mean, obviously we did. We're doing an ad reed for Paramount Plus in UFC UH in this episode, and it just seems like they have just fight after fight after fight. It's there. It's gonna be a hell of a year for UFC, A hell of a year ZUFA boxing as well. I know, Dana just started that this year. Their first fight was on Friday, went really well for them. They're really excited. He was on the podium talking about how people are to look back at the end of this year, but I can't believe they did that in one year of this boxing. So Dana maybe the greatest fight promoter of all time. He's not taking steps on steps on steps, just adding to the legacy that is Dana White. It's absolutely beautiful. Let's talk about the guest seat that we have sitting right here, this bud Light cake. We got a right one of the best guests we have. On Busting with the Boys, you might have heard a lot of rumors that are taking place about should bud Light put a bunch of different kegs and Gellett and Lumen. Those are the stadiums for both the Seattle Seahawks and the New England Patriots, and a lot of uh because both these guys are in the Super Bowl, sources are telling Busting with the Boys right now that there might be cakes, possibly cakes, along with a lot of prizes put in these stadiums, with announcement as soon as Wednesday. So boys, keep your eyes on that bud Light Socials. You look at the bud Light Socials and you're in the New England or Seattle area, know that Lumen and Jellette Stadium quite possible are getting bud Light kegs along with a bunch of prizes as well. Bud Light Socials will tell you those things. And with that being said, I have to read. 00:30:50 Speaker 8: You know. 00:30:50 Speaker 1: What's also brought to you by bud Light is this interview. 00:30:56 Speaker 4: What's also brought to us by bud Light is this interview. Bud Light has been with four simple ingredients for a clean Chris taste. But Light is the official sponsor of the NFL at the NFL Draft, Titan, University, the UFC, and Shane Gillis is twenty twenty five too, or even though it's twenty twenty six. Bud Light partners include Peyton Man and George Kittle, Bicker Mayfield, Emtt Smith, Shane Gillis, Post Won, Dustin Poyet. Do me a favor, stock up on bud Light. Head to www dot bud light dot com forwards that's located to find a store near you. Easy to drink, easy to enjoy. Our guest today is none of the Commissioner of College Football, Josh Pate. We have an amazing breakdown on this weather that's taking place in the southeast and the northeast this half of the country. The ice how that all had, Dude, it's a very educational episode. We dive into josh Pate's other passion aside from college football as well. 00:31:41 Speaker 6: The weather combo was actually like really cool to hear, Like, I feel like we could do an entire episode just with him talking about weather. 00:31:48 Speaker 1: Dude. 00:31:48 Speaker 4: We basically that we touched on college football Indiana, Oregon, Miami, Alabama, Michigan, Ohio State. So lots of talk about there is a story you're going to hear about josh Pat's grandfather. It is absurd to the point where you think to yourself, this is not real. And he said before, hey, when I tell you the story, you're gonna think it's not real. I heard the story, I think it's not real. But also josh Pat's never been a liar to me. So that being said, please enjoy this again. The boys work their ass off to get you here and to get you this episode. We could have sat back said hey, we're not gonna do it. Brains got together last night in the eleventh hour and we decided we're gonna roll one not for us, but for you the viewer. So to all of you that do watch this episode, this one's for you. We appreciate you. We hope if you're in Nashville or any spot that's been hit by the weather really hard. That you are safe, you are fed, and your family is happy. Big hugs, tiny kisses, Please enjoy this episode. Boom. We well, just me and mention here, let's give a Josh Payter around a pause. Mention it just a quick, little nice clap. He made it, he did it, he got it all done. We were just discussing the under over of who's going to make it to the shop today, and we clearly hit the over. So we have clump. We got Jack, we got Jared, we got Sure, and we got Mitch and we that's it right in myself, So six guys made it to the shop. Obviously, you see to my right, we're missing our special boy. Our special boy is gone. Our hearts are with him. He has one area in his house where he can get some sort of cell signal out. Last night he started firing off texts and I'm thinking to myself, buddy, we've handled this but all good, and he's just panic texting over and over and over again. 00:33:27 Speaker 9: Should we just called this the Will Compton memorial episode, even though he's still alive. 00:33:33 Speaker 4: It has to it should absolutely because you could, dude, you can feel it. I don't know why he would just send me text randomly like you get this. I'm like, yeah, I got it. And there was a few hours there where I was the only person he could text, and it was the most communication I was able to have with will outside of Bustle with the boys in three years. You could just tell he's going stir crazy. He's losing his mind a little bit in that house all by himself. 00:33:57 Speaker 9: You can see when the flame on the end of the stick starts to die out. Yeah, and the wolves close in and and there's no there's no more time for shields or emotional fences. You just kind of you spill your heart out because you kind of know this is it. That's been, that's been William over the past forty eight Right. 00:34:15 Speaker 4: It's so fun for him when he's at Target and he's doing the content online. Once once the self service kicked out, he's like, oh no, wo wait you mean. 00:34:24 Speaker 9: You mean you mean I don't just get to have all fun with this. 00:34:29 Speaker 1: Thing? 00:34:30 Speaker 4: That could happen, Dude, will Lily thought to himself, I could probably lose power, we could lose food, toilet trees, everything, But at least I got Wi Fi no matter what, and I think it was the one and only thing that went down for him. 00:34:42 Speaker 7: But he did. 00:34:42 Speaker 4: He he had a clip and I hope we put it in the show of him driving and he's like, the roads are bad, don't go on the roads. I'm the guy that when a tornado's outside, I'm the dad that walks outside and has to see the tornado and I'm out. I'm literally watching the video outside of my house, trying to feed my animals and stuff like that, thinking all I want to do is just kind of figure out what these roads are really like right now. And it's the curiosity. So it's a it's a big reason why women live so much longer than men. We just the dumb curiosity. But I digress. I want to give you the floor for a second, because this week you've done an incredible job of giving Will and I updates, of just saying, hey, this is what's going in You're talking about using big words, about different graphs or saying different things. They're the ones you believe in. It's headed north now, it's back south, but it's definitely gonna head back north again. We're a team. We're in the trenches. It's been a trench talk all year long and twenty twenty five about Josh Paint being the trenches. Now you're no longer in Nashville, and you you fled south. The rumor is Josh pat fled south because he was afraid of the weather. And I love for you to just speak to the masses on kind of that narrative being written about you across the nation right now. I would never say that about you. By the way, I want you to know you're my guy. I would never say that about you. 00:35:57 Speaker 9: This is one of those rare instances where the narratives I wrote the narrative. I told you, guys, so about a week ago, I started smartening you up to the fact that, hey, the mid term long range models are showing some stuff for us, and at that point the stuff was just going to be historic snowfall and we were gonna At one point me and Clump talked about doing this show today in the parking lot, pretending that we didn't have power so we could just dead sell the fact that we were gathered around a campfire in the parking lot with like inchine hour snowfall rates piling up in our lap. That was fun. Those were the old days. That was a while back, Okay. Then then a different word started to work itself into the equation ice. Now people will look at what Nashville is going through right now. Who grew up up north and say, oh, I'm used to that complete bs. No one's used to ice storms. No one gets used to ice storms. Now, since I have been immersed in weather my whole life, I know what a crippling ice storm is like. So I don't run from tornadoes. In fact, you know, I run towards tornadoes. I chased them in the spring. It's my second favorite passion. I don't flee hurricanes. I actually win Hurricane Matthew, which was our last Cat five US landfalling hurricane hit in the Florida penninth or the Florida Shore. I went down there. So I don't run from any kind of weather. The only weather I will actively run from is an ice storm because it gives you the damage that a tornado gives you. You've seen the trees, so it looks like tornado damage. Basically, it's just way more widespread and you're so powerless. When power goes out, you're literally powerless. So I knew, and I told you guys about seventy two hours ago. I don't like the way this is trending. If the GFS model doesn't make a good, solid comeback here in the eleventh hour, the Euro is gonna win. That's why they call it King Euro. That's why they call the model King Euro this time of year. And if we were going to get what it looked like we were gonna get, which we ended up getting, I didn't want to be a part of it. So I don't think that there's any shame in being in relatively normal forty one degree Columbus, Georgia in the AC Hotel conference room right now, which was graciously given to me for this recording. And now the question becomes, when do I come back? Do I come back? Is there a whole left? That's the question. We will rebuild, we hashtag we will rebuild. It's going to be a long and arduous. 00:38:12 Speaker 1: Process, dude. 00:38:14 Speaker 4: So, okay, I want to this this podcast. We we can break down a little bit of college football, but I really want to know the weather, Where did the passion come from? What the hell is GFS you talk about the Euro winning? I'm thinking democracy has done the domestic dollar, like I like, there's so many things. And you made a point when when we were out we traveled to LA for the sam coom and you would hit Will and I in the group chat and Will would say something like we're warriors, blah blah blah, We're gonna bat down the hatches, and I would just be like, okay, thank you, and you'd hit us back with Will has always got like some sort of profound like quote from Gladiator, and Taylor just says the most generic response back, because I'm reading your text and I'm thinking to myself, I got a funnel this shit all the way through chat GBT just to figure out what the hell he's saying. I just know Icepad's snow good. I'm a neanderthal on this whole thing. Yeah, So where did Josh Pat's passion because every story you have is so unique, even though way you found college football without even playing football in high school, where did the passion of weather come into play? 00:39:12 Speaker 1: All? Right? 00:39:12 Speaker 9: So when I was growing up, I went to school technically out of district, So I grew up in Harris County, Georgia, which is just north of Columbus. But it's just over the Chattahoochee River, which means it's just over the state line into Georgia. It was in my best interest to go to school in Phoenix City, Alabama, so I could stay at me Mo's house in the afternoon until my parents got off work. So I went to school over in Phoenix City until someone turned us in years later, and that's its own separate story. So anyway, when I would get off school, I would go over to MEMA's house and I would either watch Sports Center or I would watch the Weather Channel or both. And I watched like some Nickelodeon like some stuff like that, but mainly I just watched ESPN and I watched the Weather Channel. And about that time, I'm a little kid in the mid nineties, that's kind of when I first remember watching TV or anything like that. That's kind of when Twister came out, So the concept of people storm chasing really captured me and I got sucked in. Side note, there was a timing my kindergarten year where because I was just glued to the Weather Channel all the time, I learned all my fifty state capitals by the time I was in kindergarten, and everyone rightly thought that was a lie. So the principal brings himself down to my kindergarten class one day because the kindergarten teacher was bragging about me to the rest of the school. I guess in like the teacher's lunch room and the lounge and stuff like that. So principal comes down there, and I think they had bet money on me amongst themselves. They had bet on whether I could whether I knew Montpellier was the capital of Vermont or whatever, and so I did, And so I think there was some cash that exchange hands because of the Weather Channel teaching me my state capitals by the time I was in kindergarten. So then I grew up and like I've never relinquished that, Like I've never let that go to the point where I've talked to you off care a lot. You asked me like, hey, when when college football gets so big, like when the channel gets so big, Like what do you do? Do you go to the NFL? I don't go to the NFL. Like my next big passion project would be a full on weather based platform. I would love to get into that. 00:41:16 Speaker 4: That is so wild to me. Then I'm sure like you just seeing these print like this teacher and this principal going back and forth gave you such a sense of pride at five or six years old, whatever age you were, when you're able to recite all the capitals and states that it turned into this passion. But like people have passions, people get excited. They find identities and things that are like, oh, this is great. What made you good? Like when was the first time You're like, I'm gonna take the next step, whether it's buying a weather radar system, whether it's chasing a tornado for the first time, when was the next step for you in the passion category of weather. 00:41:53 Speaker 9: Okay, you're gonna they're gonna think I'm making this story up. So I don't know what age I was. This is going to sound like a made up story, okay, because it has to do with an ice storm. So there's a lot of correlation here. When I was a kid, my grandpa died and we had to go up to Chattanooga, Tennessee, or Lookout Mountain, which is really close to Chattanooga for his funeral. So he got cremated and he wanted his ashes spread about this lake that he used to fish in like up in the mountains in Tennessee. So I'm little, like, I'm way under ten years old, so I kind of loosely understand what's going on. So we go up there, it's in the middle of winter. We have I think, a service, and then we're going to go spread his ashes the next day. So this is my mom's dad. My dad is up there as well, who you know very well. And so the forecast says there's going to be a big ice storm. So it's decided that the rest of the family, me included, we're going to go home early. My mom's going to stay up there. They're going to spread the ashes and whatnot, and so you know, it's too risky for everyone to stay up there. So I remember us going home. So I remember that was the first time I really learned howling an ice storm could be, that we had to like miss Peapau's funeral ash spreading because of it. Okay, that's not the part that sounds crazy. Years later, unrelated to the ice storm, I get home from school one day, this is like five to ten years later. I get home from school one day. My mom has this look on her face like someone just hit her with a baseball bat, and I'm like what she said, So I need you to sit down. Never good, never good. 00:43:24 Speaker 4: That's terrible. 00:43:25 Speaker 9: I mean that got dropped only about three times in my whole life, so this was one of them. Hey, need you to sit down. So it's about Pea Paul And I said, Pepa's been dead like seven or eight years. I don't know what this could possibly pertain to. She said, do you remember when we went up there to spread his ashes? I said, well, I remember you did. I had to go home early for the ice storm. I still did remember that. She goes, yeah, all right, So you're gonna hear some stuff on the news later today, cause a news crew just left our house. So I'm going to prepare you for it now, okay. Come to find out there was a place up in North Georgia called the Tri State Crematorium that they had sent his body to to be cremated. 00:44:02 Speaker 2: All right. 00:44:03 Speaker 9: This place had been raided years later, and they discovered bodies stacked on top of each other that hadn't been cremated in a big shed. They discovered bodies thrown in a lake on the property. These people's incinerator had broken, and so instead of handing back human remains, cremated remains, they were basically just handing back firewood ash to people who don't know the difference, because who could really spot that. So we took like firewood ash for my mom did up into the mountains and spread it out and risk their life in an ice storm. And they come to find out his body has just been stacked in this shed the whole time, and they finally identified him because his toe tag was still on him. I'm not making any of this up, and so, yeah, that was my first experience with a nice storm. 00:44:48 Speaker 4: My friend, dude, what the fuck? Yeah, so Pipa has just been sitting there in like a refrigeration unit for the last ten Oh. 00:44:56 Speaker 9: No, no, they didn't even do him the courtesy of refrigerating him. No, he's just out in a shed. So is he like disintegrating, Yeah, they just they were on the word. 00:45:05 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think it is. 00:45:06 Speaker 1: He was. 00:45:06 Speaker 9: He composed. He composed his remains because of the tow tag was still so they didn't. 00:45:10 Speaker 4: Even they didn't embalm him or nothing like that. They just stacked him. And that's okay. I can see where we can find a line here of like that's insane. 00:45:18 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's a big story, dude. You could, like anybody can google Tri State Crematorium right now and just read all about it. Probably has its own Wikipedia page. 00:45:26 Speaker 4: That is nuts. So your mom sits you down, she says all this to you. Do you pop on the news that night? 00:45:32 Speaker 9: Yeah, because she was on the news, got you got this? This is true. This was my mom's fifteen minutes and not the one that she wanted necessarily, but like she got on national news because of this. 00:45:41 Speaker 4: So do we let's let's try to put a bow on this. Do we get a hold of p Pau's body? Do we finally do the crematorium? And do we go to and spread his ashes? 00:45:50 Speaker 9: Great question? Yes? And then I was able to go this time, and we went way up like to a We went to such a remote point in the Tennessee wilderness that I question, how did he ever get here? 00:46:01 Speaker 1: Routinely? 00:46:02 Speaker 9: Yeah, it was just strictly walking trails and we went up there and spread the ashes. Legit ashes out this time, So I guess all's well that ends well a decade later. 00:46:11 Speaker 4: Yeah, to think that tears were shed over firewood ash though tough, tough, tough, livin. Dude, that is absolutely insane. So your passion came from malpractice. Yeah, your passion came from malpractice. When was the first time you chased the tornado? Because if my understanding of our friendship is correct, your one of your favorite thing to do is chase tornadoes. Let's let's dive into that. Give me and yeah, Oh, I think Josh has already said, Mitch, just in the corner. Can we come in the reference of going to see a tornado? I think that answer has already been answered, Like we've been given. We are going to chase a tornado with you this year. I cannot be more excited for the opportunity. I can't be excited. I'm so excited to be terrified and then watch the vehicles and drive towards the fight as opposed to away from the fight. Yes, similar to what I have done in this ice storm. But you know, no, pat in the back needed first time you chased the chase a storm? Who'd you get hooked up with? What's his name, Red Dog? The Sniffer's who's the guy you work with? 00:47:15 Speaker 9: Oh, you must be referring to Brad Arnold, the tornado sniffer. 00:47:18 Speaker 4: The tornado sniffer. Correct, Now, I'm assuming he's not your first chase. You have to work yourself up to the sniffer. 00:47:25 Speaker 9: Brad Arnold wasn't my first, he wasn't your first. 00:47:27 Speaker 4: All right, tell me about when you've lost that beautiful tornado card. 00:47:32 Speaker 9: I want to say it was eight. I want to say you. 00:47:36 Speaker 4: By the way, just you saying, oh wait, you love tragedy. Right, we talked about your peepa. Now we're talking about a housing market crash. You don't care. You're just chasing down tornadoes. 00:47:44 Speaker 9: Why does everyone look so glum when I'm talking eight? This is a great year for me. Yes, exact successful chase. No, there was a system that moved through really really weird. So there what are called closed core low systems, which I'm not gonna explain, but anyway, they provide their own cold air. Fascinating. They are notorious for bringing a severe weather signal the one day and then snow the next day. In the South, they're rare, but when they do, they're famous for doing that. So we get an EF two tornado right there in near Harris County where I grew up, and we chased it. We saw that one and then the next day we got seven inches of snow, extremely rare, like the biggest snowfall that we've had where I grew up in my entire lifetime. That was the first one I remember. But as far as doing it the way I want, you got to understand, like, so I grow up way closer to poorer than middle income, so I can't leave, like I can't go anywhere. Traveling is a non starter for me. So I always made it a goal, like, man, if I could ever if I could ever make it, quote unquote, if I were ever financially secure, I would hope that it comes from covering college football, which we ended up accomplishing. But then the dream scenario is you're financially secure and you have your springs free, so you can go chase tornadoes anywhere in the country you want to. So like, that's what we do now. So if it calls for flying to Wichita, or flying to Oklahoma City, or flying to Omaha or Topeka, that's where we go. And then you're in a car, and like I told you, you could be flying right back out of Wichita the next day, or you could end up driving all the way back to Nashville, just because the chase naturally takes you east and you get to a certain point and you're in Arkansas, and you're like, we're already halfway home. Why don't we just drive the rest of the way home. But I love that man. And now so I'm fourteen, I've seen fourteen tornadoes and I think we can get that up to twenty this year. 00:49:31 Speaker 4: Yeah, but if a tornado slot sounds like fourteen tornadoes, where does the sniffer come in? Because we remember were flying back from New York a couple months ago, great show on Get Up ESPN. They definitely dialed in the colleg shootble portion and they asked you to come up. 00:49:44 Speaker 8: You do. 00:49:44 Speaker 4: You absolutely kill it the entire time on our way back. A lot of stuff going on in the media, Weather's getting kind of crazy, and you're just staring at your phone with all these little dots and colors going on and stuff like that. I don't know what I was going to finish that question with the sniffer. How did you get to the sniffer? You brought him up on the plane and you talk about this guy that can just he can find tornadoes out of thin air. He's one of those guys. He puts the grass near sees the direction of the wind and heads that way. 00:50:13 Speaker 9: Yeah, like he's in the movie Twister. If you ever see Bill Patson just walk out in a gravel parking lot of a barbecue joint and just pick up some of the gravel and let it fall out of his hand, and then he looks at the sky mysteriously. That's our boy, that's a sniffer. So all right, So here's the scene. When you're chasing these days. YouTube is a fascinating thing in our world. It's changed our lives, but it's changed storm chasing too. So what you'll have is, at any given time, you could have like fifteen other chasers live feeds pulled up on top of your radar products and your GPS products. You just got a wall of monitors in your truck if it's set up the right way. So over time, I don't know any of these people personally. I didn't grow up with him, But you just come to You just come to filter out who the legit, like like Alpha's in the space are so over time, like Brad Arnold, who by the way, is stranded in Franklin, Tennessee as we speak. So shout out to him. Brad Arnold just starts to separate, and like anytime there's a tornado that's touched down or there's one that's emminent, he's always there. His car is always there, his little dot on the map is always there. So it turns out he watches the show. He's a big college football guy, so we just kind of naturally got hooked up. He lives in Huntsville. Most of these dudes live in Oklahoma. He lives in Huntsville, so it makes a lot of sense. Like if we were to ever chase or if we were to stage out of somewhere, you got maybe the best in the world. He's power rated number one right now. I got him power rated number one. I don't know what he's ranked, but he's power rated number one. That's that's our guy and a big fan of busting. So like you don't know it, but you guys are friends as well. Nice and he's down. He's down to a lot of people are down to do a lot of things these days, but he's down to chase the spring. 00:51:56 Speaker 4: Doug's I never knew I was still about something until you brought it into my life. Like obviously I've seen tornado, but growing up in Arizona, there's zero natural disasters that take place. So as a kid, you wake up in the morning, sons outside, and you put on you know, the news, and it's like ice storm in Nashville, Tennessee, you know, tornado and Topeka, Kansas, and you just sit there and go, hey, that's kind of crazy, and then you go outside and play like it never really sparks in your brain. Yeah, this is like the this is like the It's just the craziest thought process. So for the fact that me, Will you and the Sniffer are going to head out in the spring, I cannot wait for the opportunity to stare at one of these bad boys. Because I remember being in Michigan. I think it was my second year. I just moved into a house with a couple of football players and there's a couple of girls on the other side, and we became friends with them. But like the first like I would say, March there, all of a sudden, sirens start going off and these cats are from the Midwest, and like, hey, we gotta go down the basement. I'm learning all this in real times where I'm playing it cool, but I'm like also in like a massive panic mode of what's going on because they're talking about how if this happens, we all do X, Y and Z. If the power outs, we have to be able to get out. And there's so many different variables that take place. What's it like for you when you're chasing these storms and there's so much damage that takes place in these towns, these cities wherever. It might be, Like, what is the move after the tornado ends? 00:53:25 Speaker 9: Can be really scary, It can be really traumatizing. So I've been in this situation a few times, so what you do. You can have different purposes for going out there. Some people are working on federal grants and they're actually doing work for the government. Many of the many others have like big successful weather franchises that they run independently. They're gathering content no differently than we are right now. But everybody kind of has the understanding that, all right, you're out here for whatever reason you're out here for. But there's this mutual understanding in the community that everyone's here and in a moment's time, you could come a first responder. It could immediately turn into search and rescue. Now you got to walk a fine line there because not everyone is trained first responder, and so there's a point where you could be getting in the way, you could be doing more harm than good. But there's also a point where, like I mean, if you're in the middle of a disaster zone and no one's there, there are no blinking lights. Also, it's really crazy cause ninety nine times out of one hundred, power has been knocked out, so there's no sound and it's really really surreal. It's like a movie scene. So you got to do whatever you can, and so you're always ready for that. You're in the middle of a chase, and you know, especially if you're near a tornado or you're documenting one, within the next five minutes, you could be totally switched to searching through debris and search and rescue mode, your dodge in live power lines, your dodge in lightning as well, which is my biggest fear. So, like there's a high risk and like high volatility element into the chase. But remember when you asked me on that flight back, you said, what's it like when you see a tornado? What's it like when you actually see it. It's because people ask me that, so often, I had to come up with this explanation. So the way I explained it, the way I explained the adrenaline rush, it's very sudden. It's like if you combined the feeling of cresting at the top of a roller coaster when you start to head down on a roller coaster, and you combine that with sex, you combine that with the feeling you get in the best haunted house you've ever been in. All of those things thrown into one are kind of a loose comparison to the like the kind of adrenaline when you're right there in harms way next two like a legit tornado. 00:55:42 Speaker 1: It's like your three favorite things. 00:55:44 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's like my three favorite things. The thing that you're doing right now to me is one of could be the greatest thing in a friendship or your worst nightmare. And so it's essentially the same thing as when you're when you go to a town, when you bring your boys to your town that you grew up in and there's that one in a restaurant that you're like, you guys have got to go here, eat here, because it's zips. This is you are essentially talking about my zips. Right now to where you're gonna bring me along for this ride. And the possibility that we talk to talk about on this plane as well is you could go out there for six days and not see a damn thing. There is that element to where Josh Pate lets down the boys, similar the way Will was framing you during the Fiesta Bowl type of thing before we got that cleared up. Thankfully for JP, that fear is massive, suld Is it you fell in your stomach right now? 00:56:36 Speaker 9: Yes? No, but it's not up to me. So there's a calmness in the fact that it's out of my hands because I've been in this position myself, like I've spent money on gas, on flights, on food, on lodging, and you go out there, and the thing about it is sometimes the most sure thing type setup just doesn't deliver. And it's not even necessarily like the weather man's fault. There are a million different variables in the atmosphere, and especially when it comes to stp significant tornado parameter, those things have to be combined in a very very specific combination of ingredients for super cells to form and tornado genesis to happen. Now, when it does sometimes it'll pop off in mass. But if you don't get it, there's a fine line between a big outbreak and completely nothing. Can you get the cap to break that day? So I've experienced that myself. But that's actually what makes the big outbreak day feel the way it feels, because it's not like seeing a thunderstorm. You see those all the time, so they don't mean anything to you. It means something when you see a tornado because it's hard to chase those things down. 00:57:41 Speaker 4: When you get to we're looking at Nashville and all the debris. I'm sure you've seen a lot of photos. Over three hundred thousand people no power. It's a very dangerous situation now that the storm has taken place and everything's frozen over. You being my number one weather man guy, is there a light at the end of this tunnel? Because I heard rumors of I know, like middle of the week it's gonna go get above freezing, but only slightly. So my brain goes to, OK, we're gonna have a little of a melt back to a refreeze. But then I hear there's a rumor if there's a possible another storm on the horizon that can give us the same thing over again. What is your weather man things telling you? 00:58:17 Speaker 9: Yeah, so I've been monitoring that. I don't feel overly confident that that's gonna happen for Tennessee, Mississippi, Alabama right now. I think if that becomes an event this weekend, it's a lot more in eastern seaboard event. But again that's still a little ways off, so it bearies close watching. What you got to watch for in Tennessee is sunlight. You gotta get as many hours of direct sunlight as you can get, which you're eventually gonna get. Like I'm in Georgia right now. I'm planning on coming back up there Wednesday, So like, I think we'll be good by them, unless I text you otherwise. I don't foresee a big event in the near future. So I think we got some time to clean up. It's gonna be cold, but I think we got some time to clean up. 00:58:57 Speaker 4: Yeah, buddy, we got so much damage over here on my side, like just my house in general, fifty thousand dollars. You're just looking around and I'm seeing fences, structures broken down, Like we have this whole compost station and it was there two days ago, and now there's a giant tree and you literally don't even see the compost station anymore. My goats and my dog bear they have debris all around them. Luckily none of those structures, but like fences have been pulled down, wires are hanging. Yesterday, my neighbor, his boss is like, hey, you need to get down to Orlando, Florida. And he's like, I'm literally if you pull out of my house on one side, like a house down, there's a tree. On the other side less than a house down, there's a power line in a tree, there's no way to get out. But on my property, I have a construction path from when we were building the house to get out on the other side. So I take this can am I just bought, and I drive him to the shell station on the corner of Old Hickory and I think Nolansville. I think those are the two I'm not great with streets. Take him there. He has to drive it into Atlanta. It gets down to Orlando after that, but I'm driving back too. And the amount of chaos that's taking place, houses with trees through the middle of them, like where you go and you're on a street and it's like there's no way to get around, so you have to turn around and go back the other way and find a new way home. Because that just happened in the last five minutes. I've already talked about where I've grown up, but this is the worst storm I've personally ever witnessed, and I'm sure a lot of people in Nashville have as well. 01:00:30 Speaker 9: All Right, So I was thinking about this yesterday. You know how when you go through middle school and high school, how many subjects you have to take that you know, even in the moment, I'm never going to use this, Yes, absolutely. Don't you think that weather awareness should be mandatory to be taught in school only because think about, like, all right, finance should be taught in school because it affects every single person. I think weather awareness, or weather preparedness, or at least like a basic functioning working knowledge of weather should have to be taught because that's one of the very few things in life that's guaranteed to impact everybody. And like you, you're in Nashville right now, think about how many people in the lead up to the storm really had no idea what freezing rain was. 01:01:17 Speaker 4: Dude, I'm one of them. I sat there and I'm like, freezing rain. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me, because yesterday morning it's twenty eight. It's like between twenty five and twenty eight degrees and it's raining, and I'm thinking, everything I've been taught about weather in my life is as soon as it hits thirty two and below, it's now snow. It's no longer rain. That's not how it works. And I'm watching it's weirdly in all this chaos, because the sunlight is out right now, you walk inside and it's calm and kind of beautiful, like if you ignore the fact that there's chaos going around around you. You're seeing these limbs that seem like they've been decorated for Christmas. Like there's a blanket of snow which is actually just ice, and it looks like so calm everywhere, and then in the dist it's every two or three minutes you're hearing because where I live in town, there's it's a lot of forest. You're hearing branches, you're hearing trees come down, you're hearing people in the distance, and where you're just like, it's crazy how this thing can look so beautiful, but also the amount of chaos that's taking place within one mile of me is just outrageous because it's it's similar to the way you described like after the tornado where there's no sound. Oh, you can just hear what everybody's going through with an airshot because there's nothing else kind of taking that away. It's just nuts, ma'am. 01:02:36 Speaker 9: So what's really crazy is when you learn the science behind it. Because I was in this one time when I was a little kid, when I watched the Weather Channel describe freezing rain, it made no sense to me because I'm like, I've seen it snow when it's thirty five degrees outside before, So how could liquid be falling out of the sky when it's thirty degrees Yeah, how does that work? Well, you learn the science behind it, and it really help if I had a grease board. But like so, if if you have just a still column of cold air all the way up to the cloud, that snowflake is falling through sub freezing temperatures, so it never melts and it just hits the ground as a snowflake. But sometimes, and this is why I started using the terminology warm nose with you last week, sometimes there's a warm nose that works its way into the atmosphere just above the surface. So there's this weird situation where at the surface is below freezing, but just above the surface, like two three thousand feet up in the air, it's like thirty nine degrees. So a snowflake falls out of the clouds, goes through that thirty nine degree air and melts, and then it gets right towards the surface, and even though it is below freezing towards the surface, it doesn't have time to refreeze those gravity is pulling it to the ground pretty quickly, so it doesn't freeze until after it hits the ground. So it falls as liquid hits the ground, freezes on contact, and then it just covers everything like you're seeing right now. That's why the eye storm. Freezing rain is one hundred times more dangerous than anything else. And that's why once I realized that's what we were getting, I bailed. 01:04:02 Speaker 4: See you catch you laters, Yeah, because then you start to read about like a half inch of rain adds this many hundred pounds on branches. Yeah, And you know, like, dude, when I woke up in the morning because our power went out around like four am two days ago, and the generator had not kicked on yet. And I, you know, I'll tell my own heroic story in a second. But I'm outside kind of going around making sure everyone's good. And there are flashes of green and blue lights through the clouds, and the clouds are very low at this point, but you're seeing these flashes. And I saw, like on Twitter or wherever I was getting my weather that this is this is probably a lightning storm coming with this. So I'm thinking to myself, Oh, this is just lightning. Come to find out, these are transformers exploding because of the ice wearing it down in the amount of weight that's taking. It's pulling these things off of these wooden poles and sometimes the metal poles as well, to where transformers are exploding in the distance where you see like you sort of really, oh, these are just little bombs going off all around Nashville, and it's just nuts. And then I had to go and Buddy, I had to fix my own generator. It was almost the end of me and Tailor because she's sitting on the as she's in the bathroom of our house and I'm on the outside, and she's talking about event, and I'm reading the event, I'm like, it's just like side panel and there's obviously multiple sides, and I'm like yelling at her because I'm like, now freezing, I'm getting rained on in thirty degree weather. And it was chaos for a minute and ended up getting it cranked on. We're running just fine at the one household. But it is I've never seen anything like this in my entire life, and it's just crazy that it's exactly how you predicted it as it was coming. 01:05:38 Speaker 9: Because you know what's crazy about the power flashes? Tell me it's the so ice storms and tornadoes you look for the exact same thing. You look for those power flashes, really, and in whether it's ice storm or whether it's tornado, a tornado is a little more violent in the moment. Obviously. That's one of the telltale signs that a tornado's on the ground is when you see the power flashes, because you know that's just transformers blowing and there's really only one thing that's going to do that, and that's tornado on the ground. But in the event of the ice storm, same things happening, but it's for a far different reason. It's because of what you just said is happening to all those tree branches. And that's why I told you, because I know you live in like a really wooded area. If you live in wooded areas, especially, you're just screwed. If you get significant ice, Like half an inch or more of ice is catastrophic because it's a one hundred percent certainty tree tree branches are going to come down. Trees, and they're entirety you're going to come down, And there's only so many ways they can fall. And if you consider how many trees you have around you, eventually one of them is going to fall in a power line. And really all it takes is one to fall at the right place to knock out everybody's power. 01:06:43 Speaker 4: Yeah, not exactly what happened in my house, dude. We literally walked outside and I hear a branch go down. It's very close. So I look over in the direction and I see a live wire kind of ripping. 01:06:54 Speaker 9: Around on my show scary, So sary. 01:06:56 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm. 01:06:57 Speaker 4: Clearly a far enough distance away, I felt like, but just seeing it, I'm like, this is insane. What's going down right now? And it's just crazy. And then I think to myself, Like my neighbor across the street, I don't even know them. I kind of like keep to myself in my neighborhood. But like they get a hold of my wife's number, and this guy has a pacemaker and he's like, we don't have power. So I'm like going over there bringing it to my house, charging his pacemaker, bringing it back. I got a neighbor that my kids hang out with, their family is now in my house, and I'm like trying to house people because I'm not the only house on the block that has any power right now. And it's like there's a feeling of a rewarding feeling of being able to like help people in this situation, but also it's like what's gonna happen when it's all cleared up? Because pipe pipes are bursting. I've already we've already talked about the amount of damage I have in my house. Luckily, I'll be able to like fix those things and get him done. But a lot of people around me are just for months, possibly a year, of are going to have like repercussions for the things that are taking place in Nashville, which is just you know, you have a lot of empathy and a lot of gratitude for you, and you just hope everyone's all right. 01:08:02 Speaker 9: Yeah. The staff was asking me when I told them Thursday or Wednesday or Tuesday. I told them I'm considering going out of town and they were like why, And then we got past the whole joking around, Oh, you're running from the weather, and I explained to him, no, I'm not joking. I'm legit running from the weather. And they were like, oh, you're serious, Okay, explain to us why and I explained, well, here's what's going to happen with the power. So, in fairness to them, they know nothing about weather. So they were like, but the power goes out sometimes in storms. Why does that mean you leave? Do you leave every time you think the power is going to go out? And I said no, the extended period of time the power could be out, combined with temperatures and what it's like the single digits last night, that it's a really big deal because like when thunderstorms knock out the power, I don't know that since I lived in Nashville, my power has ever been out more than three hours, except when the tornado hit my building in twenty twenty. That was a different story. But like other than that, just normal power outages, ANYS is really good about getting that stuff back on. They are powerless on some of this stuff to get it back on because it takes weeks and weeks and weeks, because you're not just like reattaching a line. You're not just resetting anything. You have to physically rebuild the infrastructure of your power grid. It doesn't matter if you have the best in the world and they all work overtime and they bring in crews from surrounding counties. You're talking about weeks, two, potentially sometimes months that that stuff takes to get fixed. 01:09:26 Speaker 4: Yeah. I was just texting with my wife before you jumped on, and she works with this charity company called Home Street Home. This guy named Steve. It's an amazing story. He was lost his job, end up being homeless. He thought, Okay, this will be a couple couple of weeks, ends up being I believe closer to a year that he's on the streets like no home, nowhere to go, sleeping under tunnels. And once he got himself financially stable, he pulled himself out of the situation and now his whole mission is taking care of the homeless, getting them on their feet, giving them the tools in order to carry on with their life and get back up to where they should be. He just hit my wife up, like we are that we're overdone, we have no more money, we're messed up. There's like there are people dying right now, which is just you know, it's terrible. It's terrible, and there's not a whole lot to go off that other than just like you just hope everybody's okay, and so that's all I got. It's probably not a great follow up to that for you to be there. 01:10:21 Speaker 9: I've always been a believer that the way that they evacuate an area when a hurricane is imminent should be the same way you evacuate an area when you know an ice storm is imminent. The problem is a hurricane is going to make landfall at a specific place, and then it's going to move inland. This thing, like if you look at the track of it, you're talking about anywhere from southeastern Arkansas through like Oxford, Mississippi, up through Memphis, Jackson, Nashville, Knoxville, Like you've got an extended, very very extended swath of land where it's kind of it's not feasible to evacuate that large a chunk of land. So people like, that's why you got to prioritize like the elderly you're dude on a pacemaker for example. Like I mean, if you if you lose power, it's gonna suck, but you're you're in the prime of your life, you're gonna be okay, probably, Yeah, but if you're eighty five years old, especially if you're alone like that, that's something that's happening there right now. 01:11:18 Speaker 4: Yeah, it is. Uh, it's just crazy, man, And this conversation, if it's you brought it up. But like having education as a young as a young lad, being able to understand weather and what you do in certain situations of tragedy, whether it's a tornado and ice storm, a giant thunderstorm that breaks out power, Like knowing what you should and should not do, because I'm guilty of it myself and I'm sure many other that are listening to this episode. Is like, when this is all happening, I'm thinking to myself, Okay, I gotta have food. 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What a game? 01:14:59 Speaker 4: Yeah? 01:14:59 Speaker 9: And and I mean if I think, I don't think Mario would admit this, but I think in his heart of hearts, if you told him that morning, I'm going to give you the ball first and ten midfield with a minute left down six, will you take that? I think he would have taken it. 01:15:15 Speaker 1: Yep. 01:15:15 Speaker 9: That's exactly where they were. So you've seen the movie The Perfect Storm. 01:15:20 Speaker 4: Right, Yes, beautiful and heartbreaking. 01:15:23 Speaker 8: Yeah. 01:15:24 Speaker 9: Yeah, And to me, that was that entire game. And it's kind of like playing Indiana this season, but that game was a great microcosm of what it's been like playing Indiana when they're on and Indiana was on that night, So there were three different times where Miami probably took what should have been a knockout blow. They answer each time to the point, like we just said, where they have the ball in midfield, like they I fully believe. I was standing in the end zone with Chrystobaal's family. I fully believe I'm about to see a celebration to end all celebrations in Miami's building. This is about to be surreal. And then Carson Bect just throws a pick and it's over. Kind of anti climactic there, but I felt like it was. There's such skill in being able to trade knockout blows. It's like watching old school, like like Muhammad Ali fights before there were any kind of regulations on boxing. They're going fifteen rounds and they're just annihilating each other and you're sitting there watching saying, not only how did he just take that punch to his face? How did he deliver one? So in the Perfect Storm, and I'm going to spoiler alert it because it's been out for a long time, they're going through like unimaginable hell on the open seas and they're like a confluence of three different storms and they're out there just trying to catch some fists. They're trying to feed their families, they're trying to get back to the mainland, and they're stuck in it, and they're going through it, and there's this point where George Clooney and the dude in the in the in the captain's chair with him, they like kind of resigned themselves to the idea that they're going to die, and they're they're fighting it, but they realize we're probably gonna die, all right. Then the skies start to part a little bit and it starts to let up, the rain stops, and they get this look on their face like they just got a second chance at life. And the second crewman there says, skip, we're gonna make it, and George Clooney's looking around, and then the sky start to darken again, and then the wind picks up again, and then the sun disappears, and then the rain starts to fall and the waves pick up, and George Clooney looks and says, she's not gonna let us out. And that's what it was like watching Miami. There were like three different times where Miami feels like, man, we're gonna win this game, and every time Indiana had an answer, and every time Mendoza makes a play, and in the end. It's just like they're not gonna let him out. They're not gonna let him out. And I fully believe you probably took Miami's best punch. Like all things considered, Miami gave themselves as good as shot as they could give themselves. But it was a game, like you said, where if Indiana's on, no one's beating them, and they were on enough where even Miami's best wasn't gonna beat him. 01:18:01 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting too because when we were talking about the locker room, you said, do you believe Miami's best game can beat Indiana? And I answered what I really thought was the truth, and the answer is yes. But I do believe, like you just said, that was Miami's best shot at that and it just happened to be that Indiana just had a slight edge. And it's no shot at Crystaball or Carson Beck or Fletcher or those two defensive ends. It's just the storm. It just wasn't gonna let you out, and no matter what you did and how hard you thought, eventually you were going down in that water until the bubble stopped. And it's it was beautiful to see because it was two teams that we have at one team we haven't seen in forever in a national championship, and the other team is hasn't been good in the history of their program in college football. And it was just amazing to watch two unique brands go after it for something that mattered so much, and to see like Fernanda Mendozo with the game on the line, like call a draw called, where he makes a guy missed, dives into the end zone, gets hit early in the game, multiple late hits that could have been called on the Miami defense. It was It was beautiful, It was poetic, and I love the fact that Fernana Mendoza's story. I love that he referenced the fact that he was a two star guy at the end of the game and was denied a walk on a walk on scholarship I guess to Miami, And now he's on this big press tour and he's going to clearly be the number one overall pick, and it's just it's incredible to see. My question is do we see my Indiana? Is this a this is the new standard for Indiana and Kurt Signette, who's only lost two games in two years, or did they strike lightning in a Bottle, And I know you don't truly have that answer, but I do want to know your thoughts on when is Indiana go from here? This Hoover kid that come from TCU, Like, what a amount of pressure that he he has on his shoulders to take over for Fernanda Mendoza. There's a lot of things that are now taking place. Is Cooper coming back, I don't know if he has. With sar rats out, A lot of guys are going a lot of those jam Ucats that came over to Indiana made the team a national championship team. Those guys are gone now. So I love to know your thought process on the Indiana program at this point. 01:20:14 Speaker 9: Yeah, I think they're there. Like I think they're here. I think you can write their name on that fifth line sort of in the Big ten like we've had Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Oregon. They've been kind of penciled in as you expect success from them. Yeah, and the big question has been who's going to put their name in that fifth line? Now, we were thinking USC the whole time, and maybe USC will as well. Just to my opinion, from this point moving forward, Indiana is solidly in that fifth blank, And that doesn't mean they're number five. That just means they've established themselves as the fifth mainstay to me in the big ten. So the reason I say that is they didn't I don't think they caught lightning in a bottle. I think they took everyone by surprise, including me. But I don't think they caught lightning in a bottle because I don't to say that to me insinuates what they just did they probably won't be able to replicate. I think they'll be able to replicate it now. It's it's a really interesting conversation because they're going to have plenty good enough players, the staff will be plenty good enough. Also, you got that like Roger Banister's sub four minute mile effect, where now that everyone has seen it done, it becomes much more possible to be done again and again and again in the end. So I don't doubt that the proof of performance will help them as well. Like you said, they established a standard there all that stuff. The one thing that's interesting to me is when we were in Atlanta, I don't know if you were. I don't think you were there. I don't think you were there when I had this conversation. I was talking to an Indiana fan at the game before the game, and he was just kind of talking about, oh man, you picked against us so many times this year, but he was like having fun about it. So he said, and think about this, bro, this is the least talented team that Signetty's gonna have because we're gonna get more talented players now, which is not false, but he stopped short of saying what I think he was implying. What I think he was implying is if we're this good now, imagine how much better we will be. The one thing I don't believe is they'll ever have a better team than they just had. They will have more talented teams, I have no doubt about that. Maybe next year they will. I don't think it is possible for a team in the purest sense of what a team is. I don't think it's possible to have a better team dynamic than what they just had. I don't believe that to be true. So I'm not saying that to try and put emergency breaks on expectations or anything like that. I'm just trying to say, like I always go back to Saban's first years at Alabama. He gets there in seven. A year later they go to the SEC title game. They're twelve and oho, they play t bow and lose. The next year they go undefeated, they win the whole thing. And those teams still had like some Mike Shula players on those teams. There were a few holdouts. It wasn't even all Sabans roster yet. And I remember Bama fans thinking, we just want a title and our most talented teams are still to come. And they were right about that. But if you ask Saban about the best teams he had, he'll go back and point to those teams and he'll say, you know, we never really recreated that unique kind of dynamic because the way he put it, which I think is brilliant and I think it applies to Indiana, is he said those eight to nine teams, those were the last teams we ever had where the building was full of what can I do for Alabama? 01:23:29 Speaker 1: Guys? 01:23:30 Speaker 9: Every year after that because of our success, because of the athletes we were able to recruit, we were really talented, but there was always this element of what can Alabama do for me in the building, And he said, I never really had a group that was like that eight to oh nine group. Now they went on to win more titles, so it doesn't mean they weren't able to replicate success in the form of winning championships. But if anyone thinks that kurtz Signetty's going to have better teams than he just had, I think you're crazy. 01:23:55 Speaker 4: Yeah, I love everything you just said, because Indiana's now put it to where when you look at the logo, your brain doesn't necessarily go to basketball immediately anymore right now looking at football, and that's what these kids are looking at as well. They see the success. They see Sarah who went to JMU, this Cooper kid black in the backfield. Fernana Mendoz is the perfect example for all these things. Like two star kid goes to cal No one's really talking about Fernando Mendozo when he signs his letter of intent out of the transfer portal to go to Indiana. Yet he's the one that wins the national championship. So every kid now is thinking, if I go to Indiana, I will get X, Y and Z, and so that is it's a terrifying thing. It's also a thing that I look at a guy like Kurt Signetti ofv He's gonna handle it the similar way that Nick Saban does, and he's gonna see it changing because he's been around Saban. They butt heads a lot, but they also but heads a lot because they're very similarly built and being the guy understanding culture and implementing the culture, regardless of the certain personalities that they have. So I do agree with you that Indiana, although they might not be the same, the record will reflects similarly similarly every year because of what they've been able to build. When I look at Miami, I get a little more pause when I look at Miami because you obviously have Malachai Tony, who I think he regraded I believe is the correct term. He should have been a senior in high school this past year. That's absolutely incredible for him to be such a vocal point of that offense and one of the best players in the entire team. But you're losing Beck, who is you know, seventh year in college football, which is still such a crazy thing for me to wrap my brain around. He they have to find a quarterback, which I don't know if they have. I haven't followed very much. They're losing Mezi Mezzodeine, Mesidol, Mezzador and Bain who are the two guys that anytime you brought up the defense. But yeah, their back ends really good. Their front seven is good. But it's these two guys that allow everything to operate. Mario Cristobal, friend of our show, friend of yours? What do we think about them? Like, seems like their road is a little more touch and go to be, like they're gonna be in it every single year now. Their path to me seems like, okay, yeah, they're they're in the acc. They those fumbles versus SMU and Louisville. But I could see them clearly, you know, getting into the playoffs, but making that big of a run. That's where I find pause. 01:26:10 Speaker 9: I I kind of feel the same way about them as I do Indiana, just in a sense that I expect them to be there every year. To me, the skill is in putting yourself in the playoff picture every year and then you hope you peak at the right time, you get injury luck and stuff like that. All right, So do I put them in that category? Yes, I do. I think they're when the dust settles, I think they're gonna get Darien mensa that may be done, may not. 01:26:35 Speaker 4: That's a that's a due quarterback. 01:26:37 Speaker 9: Yeah, and it's just a legal thing. He'll be the quarterback down there, so they're gonna get him. I think his best receivers probably gonna follow him. I just have stopped doubting that they're going to backfill with really, really solid replacements for the big time guys. 01:26:49 Speaker 1: That they're losing. 01:26:52 Speaker 9: I think that you just saw in only one year have big a ton of turnaround they had defensively, Like they were woeful when cam Wood was their defense, and they hired heathermana from Minnesota, and they just turned that thing around. And I mean, honestly, I think the results they got last year should have taken two years to get, but they got them last year. So I think they'll continue, They'll continue being able to win on that side of the ball. I just think every year further you've gotten into Mario being there, you've progressed, and every year further you've gotten in, the team looks more and more like what a Mario Chris ball team should look. That's why they were able to do what they did. Like how did they beat Ohio State? They just bloodied them that no one else does that to Ohio State this year at least, but they did, and then they did it against A and M before that, and that's how they were able to at least hang with Indiana and make it a game against Indiana. So in that sense, I think it'll be there. I just think in January especially or February or even spring practice, when we're looking at this stuff, we're so far away, kind of like that weather thing when we're a week away from it. We got a general idea of what could be in the vicinity, but nailing down the specifics you got to be twenty four to forty eight seventy two hours out. Maybe at that point you kind of know. So like with Miami, I mean, what does the intel out of the scrimmage one in fall camp sound like? Do they have any key injuries? Malachi Tony. You know, we watched Ryan Williams and Jeremiah Smith pop as true freshmen, and then this past year were their second years. Williams fell off a cliff, Jeremiah Smith was still legit. And the point there is it's not just an automatic that when you're a star as a true freshman that you automatically scale that performance level linearly in year two, so there's a lot of unknown That's why I speak very generically about teams this time of year, and I say they're gonna be in the hunt. I think they're gonna be in the hunt. The wild thing about them is they played for a national title before they've played for an ACC title on Memorial. That to me is insane. 01:28:48 Speaker 4: That is just crazy. And people now are looking at like Clempson as like, oh that's a dead dog. But you never know what's gonna happen with them as well. Dabo Sweeney as much as Hey he got this year, it's like, could just bring them back out of the fold. He has a tendency to do that when they have a down year, a big bounce back right after that. So even though the AC is not stacked, and we've argued about you know, they're a little more irrelevant, which you know, Miami brought them back in a lot of ways, there's still that one or two teams in there that can also make a big push at the end. But you're absolutely right when it comes to injuries looking down range too far this early in the year, it's more fun to talk about than it is to put your stamp of approval. We can do that in August when we have our very exciting things coming up that we can break at some point. But it's very interesting. 01:29:32 Speaker 1: I know. 01:29:34 Speaker 4: I always talk about Michigan with you, but you had a clip come out about how Whittingham there's young nucleus of team. There's a lot of optimism. You see the fan base. You're kind of living with the fan base as far as like the way the optimism goes. I'm as a fan sitting there being like, oh my god, the potential. The potential that this team has this year is a playoff caliber team. Not just a playoff caliber team, but a team that can actually go maybe get a couple chunks, even with the schedule that they have. But then we just got done talking about mayor Chris Well, but more importantly Kurt Signetti and Kurt Signetti he has a lot of famous quotes, but one of the ones I love the most is he takes production over potential. And what Michigan's dealing with right now is we have a shitload of potential going into the season and not so much production. And that is where my pause is. So I love a little more of an outlook professional view on the Michigan Wolverines, Barring injury, barring all the things, how do we feel, as two Michigan Wolverine fans right now about this team? 01:30:37 Speaker 8: Yeah? 01:30:37 Speaker 9: Remember what Signetti was having due though, So up until five seconds ago, Kurt Signetti slash Indiana could not attract premiere, highly rated players, highly rated talent. So what he had to do was he had to go bargain barrel shopping, and out of that crop of players, he's saying, I trust the production over the potential. Now, I think even he'll get into an area where, look, they can knock on recruiting rankings all they want to. I promise you, if a five star receiver wants to commit to Indiana, they're not turning them away. I promise you they're not. And I promise you'll probably see that kid on the field as a true freshman. Yeah, I promise you that stuff will happen. So at Michigan, we're talking about a different little caliber of athlete from a recruiting ranking standpoint, and that's its own conversation, and people have really flawed theories about that stuff. But fifty thousand foot there is no better forward facing predictive measurement in high school sports now than recruiting rankings fifty thousand feet. Michigan traffics very well in that category. So if my unproven potential is really high level athletes that most other schools wanted, I'm okay with rolling the dice that Kyle Whittingham will be able to get the most out of them. I'll take that risk. In other words, but the point I was making the video you're talking about in the Mood Trackers segment we did was at least now we know, like at least now there's no me showing up to the shop on a Wednesday, and before we start recruiting recording, me and you were talking twenty minutes about what we're hearing behind the scenes at Michigan, what could be going on, what could be just around the corner or hidden behind this curtain we know now, so we know the NCAA stuff's done. No one's mentioning Connor stallions anymore. No one's mentioning Harbaugh anymore. No one's mentioning any investigation. No one's mentioning, hey man, have you heard this about Sharon? No one's mentioned in that. So we're on the other side of that now, and now it's just hey, let's play ball. Let's roll it out there, spot the ball, let's go. And we got a guy who was one of the winningest head coaches in the history of college football, and Kyle Whittingham who very clearly has tread left on his tires. Also, if you believe in the chip on the shoulder added fuel source, imagine that guy who was told time for you to move on at Utah and then it just so happens the Michigan jobs open. So the Michigan job, maybe when he was otherwise stagnating in his career, reinvigorate. I think the same thing may happen when James Franklin at Virginia Tech. By the way, Yeah, so we may see that that element multiple places. You got year two with Bryce Underwood, so you kind of try and get to see, like does he blossom year one to year two. I just think it's so much, so much steadier, a sense of footing right now, That's what gives me optimism. So I put Michigan in that same category of they'll be able to give themselves a puncher's chance, like they'll be in the picture this year and then moving forward, I have very little doubt they'll be in the picture. 01:33:29 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know definitely this year. Very early. I mean after the Oklahoma game, it was like, oh, we are not we are talented, but we are misdirected in a lot of ways. Then the USC game happens. Then I talk myself into Ohio State, which you were on board with into the eleventh hour. You were my ice storm in late November. But yeah, being a part of the University of Michigan Latter Day Saints like I am, I kind of like where we're at right now. And it's also insane to me that BYU and these Utah programs were so a part of the locker room and we always bring up American Primeval. Now I'm a part of the squad. Dude, Now I'm a part of it. I want to ask you about two more teams and then I'll let you get out of there. I'm sure your beautiful wife is waiting for you to get off so you can go do your thing. Your father, Dan Pate, finally got the I got the follow on Twitter. You let me know quickly, and there would be no way for me to ever know that he was following me unless you gave me that message. We've exchanged dms, which I will screenshot and send to you at a later date. But his team, the University of Alabama, I need a tempt check on Kalin de boor where we're at. There was a whole conversation around the quarterback and is he gonna leave? I heard rumors about him possibly going over to Tennessee if he didn't get a first round grade and he wasn't going to go in the NFL because a lot of people were thinking this backup quarterback who you know, Garrett Hargas are our number one Alabama fan here at the bus was talking about that kid. He's the one. He's the truth. You watch him in pregames before the SEC Championship. You're like, oh, I canmpletely understand why people are about this kid. He ends up leaving going to the NFL draft. I want to know about were there any truth of these rumors in your mind now at the time has passed, and this is usually we can talk about these things and from a fan base perspective, from your dad's perspective, who seems like he's got his finger on the pulse of what goes down with the Crimson tide. How we feeling Aboutkiln debor? 01:35:22 Speaker 1: All right? 01:35:22 Speaker 9: First thing in retrospect, Ty Simpson was never going to do anything other than go to the draft because he had mega offers on the table. I mean, he had a mega offer from Miami on the table, and I got respect for it. I got a lot of respect for it because his reasoning was, I was a captain at Alabama. I got my hands in the concrete there at Alabama. I don't want to be looked back on as a guy that just sort of threw that away and went elsewhere. That's such an old school, like bygone way of thinking. I could not have any more respect for that. I wish there was more of it. So Kielan Russell is the name to know at Alabama. Keilan Russell was a five star I believe he was rated five stars out of high school last year, and they had a situation where he could come in and he could read shirt because Ty was there. I went and watched them practice a few times. I go as many practices with as many teams as I can. And Keilan Russell, you've been around it, man, You've been around high level athletes and you just know when one is different, especially a quarterback. You know when one is different. Now that doesn't mean they're ready to play at that moment, but when you witness elite like physical traits, there's no mistake in that they don't blend in. They stand out from the pack. So that guy's got that. I was shocked. This is me personally speaking. I had no knowledge of it. I was shocked that they did not lose Austin Mack in the portal because Austin Mack is another pretty good quarterback. You saw him come in in the Rose Bowl against Indiana when Ty Simpson went down, made some good throws. I know for a fact that when he transferred from Washington to Alabama, I guess two cycles ago. Now there were some other teams that wanted him back, but I could come up into bors system, and he had played under de Bori he just wanted to go continue to develop under Kaylen de Bor. But look, they're going to have a competition this spring, and I'm not saying they won't. I'm telling you on equivocally, I think Keilan Russell will win that competition. And that's why I was just kind of surprised. Again, it's kind of a bygone concept that a guy is okay staying at a program and developing. So hats off to Austin Mack as well as for the Kailn de Bor thing. I think there's a healthy amount of not so much doubt. I think there's sort of a prove it to me, people begging him to prove it to me because they want to believe in him. Like there's some ten percent that are always negative. Remove them for a second. Let's go like with the core fan base, they got high expectations, but that was always going to be the case if you went to Alabama. I think they're looking and they're saying, we were dying to have a reason to believe. And it's not like they went seven and six, they went to the playoff, they won a playoff game, they were beat to death at the end of the year. What they want is they want to look like Miami looks like on the line of scrimmage. That's what they want to look like. Yes, like they want the idea that when someone faces them, they fear that they're facing a bully instead of you're Alabama and you're going to play Indiana and you're trying to find ways, like a slide of hands, smoking mirrors, let's see how we can hang in this game. That should never be the vibe with Alabama. So I think that's the vibe from the fan base right now. Now. You just fired an offensive line coach and you get a guy from USC in there, and there's a lot of hope that like, Okay, that's going to help us turn the corner and now we'll be able to run the ball again. And look, I sit here from the outside, not even halfway claiming to know the ins and outs of why they can't run the ball. I just know that that's got to get fixed. That's got to be a non negotiable. Yeah, So that's the thing I'm watching for. They're bringing in an excellent true freshman, but will be a true freshman at tailback. Keelan Russell I think will win that job. But they got a really good quarterback room position situation right now. 01:38:58 Speaker 1: I don't know. 01:38:58 Speaker 9: I think there yet another team. I think they're going to be in the mix, but I'm not ready to say, oh, they've definitively turned some corner yet, cause it's January. 01:39:06 Speaker 4: Yep, it's January. Everything else is right now is just speculation and fun. I love I love the conversation around Austin Mac. Austin Mac correct the kid that came in Yeah, during the Rose Bowl. The idea of delayed gratification is such a thing that you said, like it's an old school way of thinking. You see it happening in the Northwest with Dante Dante Moore and choose him choosing to come back for another year when he was clearly the number two pick, and just the way the NFL cycle works, he started to be argued as the number one pick as we got closer and closer. Once he saw his combine numbers all the things, people would find a way to say, this kid's better than for Nana Mendoza, and then it'd probably still end up one and two. Hey, he comes back for another year. They also got a kid, Dylan Royola from Nebraska that it's it's very interesting to see culturally Dan Lanning's ability and what seems like Kailen Debora's ability to keep quarterbacks at Bay when it seems like everyone's first inclination is just to run to the transfer portal over and over, but organs out the team. I want to talk about. The team I want to talk about is Ohio State. Arthur Smith, friend of mine. He was a GA type of that was kind of like he was a tight ends assistant's assistant when I first got to the Tennessee Titans in twenty fourteen. He was a guy that did all the grunt work, slowly worked his way up, became the OC at the Titans, went over to Atlanta as the head coach, didn't work out there, found himself at the Steelers this year and was interviewing for head coaching jobs after the season. He ends up finding home and the worst possible place, in my opinion is I have so much respect for him and I think he's a great coach in Columbus, Ohio. So now you've got Ryan Day, who is a person that from an NFL perspective, it seemed like there were some rumors rumblings similar to Marcus Freeman of jumping and going to the NFL. His was maybe a little bit lower than Marcus Freeman or Mark S. Freeman had say yeah, I'm not doing that. And now you have an OC and a DC that were NFL head coaches at one point. So I know you had to dig into your bag a little bit with the NFL. But what is Arthur's myth bring to the table. This is his words he used for me. Ohio State has a roster that is better than some NFL rosters right now, and that is a big reason why he chose to go and become an OC at Ohio State. That pissed me off. And my text back was, I'd love to see how good Julian san really is without the aliens around him. Joking. Of course, I think Julian Sann is a great quarterback, But I want to know your perspective from Ohio State. Is this a pissed off Buckeye team? 01:41:28 Speaker 9: Yeah, of course, clearly, of course it is. Yes, You've built a world there in Ryan Day's Ohio State where I don't know what the closest comp sabans Alabama maybe would be the closest cop of how he could just it's an ecosystem almost. It's not even just a football program, It's an entire ecosystem where it's totally plausible for NFL borderline head coach or former head coaching caliber types to just get a year or two in as a coordinator there. Here's the other beauty, in it. And you'll notice this kind of parallels what Sabin ended up doing. Saban would bring in all these guys at Alabama and he would say, I'm not bringing their system here. They're coming here to run my system. They're coming here to run the Alabama offense. That's kind of what Ohio State is now. It's like Ohio State's got the Ohio State offense. You're gonna come here and run it. We're gonna win, You're gonna look great. If you don't have the opportunities you want now, fast forward eleven months and you will. And so it mutually benefits all of us. And that's the that's kind of the ecosystem there now. And I also think once you won a national title. I'm not saying the pressure is ever off. You're always under immist pressure as the head coach at Ohio State, but I think now it's more just purely competitive pressure. There's not an ounce of job security pressure, not that there ever should have been, but there was, but there's no more of that. Like your process, your methods are proven, and now you I mean you just it's rints repeat and you know, like we just said, with three other four other teams. You're gonna be there every year. They were already there before they won the title. They were in position. Yeah, they couldn't get over the Michigan hump. But even before that, that Georgia's semi final game where they miss a field goal at midnight in the semi finals, they would have gone on to slaughter TCU like that. They would have easily gone on to do that. So they're that close to winning a title four years prior. It's like Ryan Day's always been a stud. He's always been that guy. Now my question to you is, you know, good andwell, he had multiple candidates for this coordinator position, right, do you think that? And I'm not saying this is the way it worked. Let's just say for argument's sake, Ryan Day has six finalists for this job, and they're all pretty equal in his mind, knowing the relationship you guys have now well established. Yeah, do you think if he knows that picking option five is going to put you on tilt emotionally a little bit, that that's enough to push option five over the finish line and get Option five in this case smith the job. 01:44:02 Speaker 4: So you're saying, does Ryan Day think about me so much? That he's making coaching hires in order to get out of my skin. 01:44:11 Speaker 9: If now this is not that it gives a guy a leg up, if all the candidates are pretty equal, like he thinks, I could close my eyes and throw a dart. Whichever balloon it hits, I'll win no matter what. If option number five there author Smith comes with the added benefit of keeping you up at night. Is Ryan Day making the hire of option five. 01:44:36 Speaker 4: One hundred absolutely one hundred percent. And it's like, I'll people like probably sitting there right now and be like, oh, Taylor, it's main character syndrome. Listen, Ryan Day declined coming on busting with the boys, and then they beat it. They beat Michigan, and twelve hours later it was oh, by the way, he has availability now. So Ryan Day is playing chess in my brain right now. He's got the twentieth floor Penthouse sweet in my brain, and he's got free range because he's done it. And as much as I don't like it, I respect the man now like he is he is doing a good job of trolling. And by hiring Arthur Smith, who I consider a friend, is just crazy. And what I consider even crazier is I had to find out on the internet, Josh Pate that that Arthur Smith took this job, and I had to find out for my own bustle with the boy's account that he took this job. And I know this is all Ryan Day's doing. Just get under my skin because you're right, they're gonna win no matter what. 01:45:30 Speaker 9: Uh I got. I got a text. I'll let you guess who sent this to me right now. It says today is Monday, Tomorrow is Tuesday, but every day is Ryan Day. 01:45:46 Speaker 4: That son of a bitch man. 01:45:48 Speaker 9: Good luck Arthur Smith. 01:45:49 Speaker 4: I got Whittingham, I got Bryce under it with an actual quarterback coach. I'm not work good, I'm I'm exactly. I am back. Don't you worry about me. Josh Beck you heard of him. He's going, Hey, we're gonna have a creative offense. We have an exciting offense. Josh you we appreciate you. Thank you for taking the time from Georgia. You're the man I'm looking I'm so looking forward to you, me and Willie see chasing tornadoes this year. 01:46:15 Speaker 9: It's amazing sniffing out on the open plant. You know what we may end up in Norman, Oklahoma. You got some unsettled scores to finish there as well, So who knows where will end? 01:46:24 Speaker 3: Yeah? 01:46:24 Speaker 4: Yeah, Mitch's mouth and bud light question to me? Listen, anyone would do anything for a nice cold bud light? 01:46:31 Speaker 9: All right? 01:46:31 Speaker 4: I don't know if we have the camera, we have a whole keg sitting right here. What is something that Josh Pate would do anything for it? And you cannot say anything about family strictly selfish? 01:46:41 Speaker 9: Okay, so it can be selfish. I don't have to give the requisite. 01:46:46 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no, no family. We all know you throw throw that out now we're done with that. 01:46:50 Speaker 1: Maybe something weather related. 01:46:52 Speaker 4: Ooh, maybe something I think he's already said on the show. Me personally, if I'm in Josh Pate's Josh Pate's brain, I think I know what you should say. It's whether or not you say it or not. 01:47:05 Speaker 9: Does that have anything to do with private aviation? 01:47:08 Speaker 4: Now it does? 01:47:09 Speaker 9: Yeah? All right, there is a dream scenario you and I. We have spoken about the joint private jet venture many times and our big, our big hang up is what we would spray paint on the side. But let's just table that for a second. I mean, imagine private helicopter access during a chase, because at that point you're no longer handcuffed by the winding roads and limited access, and you just you go after it, you attack it. 01:47:38 Speaker 4: That So you want private helicopter access to chase a tornado which is horrible weather. Yes, that sounds terrifying. I thought you were sit there and be like buy a plane, and I'd be like, hell, yes, that is one hundred percent that if I could do any thing, that would probably a Suffern family, Well I would want that. But a private helicopter. 01:48:05 Speaker 9: I gotta have maneuverability. All my light went out. I gotta have maneuverability. 01:48:08 Speaker 8: Yeah that. 01:48:10 Speaker 4: Sound dude, that sounds so scary to me. 01:48:12 Speaker 1: Also sounds so sick. 01:48:14 Speaker 4: It sounds so sick to be in a helicopter. How close can you get to a tornado in a helicopter? 01:48:19 Speaker 9: Buddy, there's there's It seems to me there's only one way to find out. 01:48:22 Speaker 4: I love it. You know what, I'm getting on that helicopter with you. I'm getting on that helicopter with you. 01:48:26 Speaker 9: Yeah, I got I got some forms you'll need to fill out, but yeah, yeah, I welcome that. 01:48:30 Speaker 4: They'll be they'll be filled out with white knuckles. I'll be so terrified, but I'll do it all right, Josh. I appreciate you. Brother. Let's give a run a poss just me and Mitch giving you a run a poster. But this stance. Let me know when you head back. You mentioned Wednesday. If it is Wednesday, just keep me posted. I want to make sure my boy's safe. 01:48:46 Speaker 9: We'll do I'll be in touch, all. 01:48:47 Speaker 4: Right, brother, We'll talk to you soon. 01:48:49 Speaker 5: Twenty one plus and present in select states for Kansas in affiliation with Kansas Star Casino, or eighteen plus and present in DC opt in required bonus issued as non withdrawable profit boot tokens. Restrictions apply, including any token expiration and max wager amount. 01:49:04 Speaker 3: See terms at sportsbook dot FanDuel dot com. 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